The Ben Shapiro Show - BOMBSHELL: Taylor Swift ENGAGED! Plus Other Stuff Happens But Nobody Cares

00:00:00.000 There's only one piece of news today, one piece of breaking news.

00:00:02.000 Beep, beep, beep, Tay Tay, Travis Kelsey engaged.

00:00:06.000 I know, I know, your mind is blown.

00:00:09.000 Your world is shattered.

00:00:11.000 Joy has broken out across the country.

00:00:13.000 Also, there's some other news.

00:00:15.000 The Cracker Barrel Wars have been won and also like actual real problems in the world.

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00:00:28.000 Well, folks, it's rare that there is a day in which we have news that is so big, so incredibly important that it trumps not only all the other news of the day.

00:00:38.000 All the other news of the day, but all the other news of the year, the decade, the century, nay, perhaps the millennium.

00:00:46.000 Yes, it's finally happened.

00:00:48.000 The most important event of our lifetime.

00:00:50.000 Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are engaged.

00:00:53.000 I know, I too am flabbergasted, shocked, I am ecstatic.

00:01:00.000 And today is a magical day in the history of the United States and perhaps all of Western civilization.

00:01:05.000 And listen, I will admit when I'm wrong.

00:01:08.000 Two years ago, when these two lovebirds began their relationship, I thought this was just another of Taylor Swift's relationships that would end with a breakup album in which she sang like a 17-year-old about how sad she was that she had been rejected, but don't worry, she doesn't need no man.

00:01:22.000 But as it turns out, she does need her, a man, and that man is Travis Kelsey.

00:01:28.000 And I have to say, like, unironically, I think it's great.

00:01:31.000 I hope they have a wonderful marriage.

00:01:32.000 I hope they have lots of kids.

00:01:33.000 I hope she sings lots of songs about being married and having kids.

00:01:37.000 And all those songs are better than her normal songs.

00:01:39.000 That's what I hope for her, because I think that would be a very good thing for the West, for America, for young women, particularly who have been taught for generations that a woman needs a man, like a fish needs a bicycle, and that romance is somehow a kind of giveaway to patriarchal institutions.

00:01:56.000 And it turns out, no, actually a core component of human happiness is finding a member of the opposite sex and getting married with them. 0.96

00:02:02.000 This has always been a core component of human happiness, having babies with a member of the opposite sex in a long lasting relationship built on love and mutual commitment.

00:02:12.000 That is a very good thing.

00:02:13.000 And I'm not saying that cynically.

00:02:15.000 I mean that.

00:02:15.000 It is excellent.

00:02:16.000 I hope that they both live much happier lives.

00:02:19.000 According to Variety, the couple shared the big news on Instagram with a carousel of photos in the caption Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married.

00:02:28.000 Put aside the idea that Taylor Swift would be a great English teacher.

00:02:32.000 Charming.

00:02:33.000 And the pictures are quite charming and quite normal.

00:02:36.000 This does look like what it would look like if your English teacher and your gym teacher got married.

00:02:40.000 It is perfectly normy and I'm here for it.

00:02:43.000 The normy revolution is happening.

00:02:46.000 And this is like a normal couple getting married.

00:02:49.000 Sure, she's a billionaire and he is a multimillionaire athlete and that is a very, very large ring.

00:02:56.000 And that is that is some serious jewelry.

00:02:59.000 But again, they can afford it.

00:03:01.000 And you know what?

00:03:02.000 Good for them.

00:03:03.000 Good for them.

00:03:04.000 It's charming and I like and it is good.

00:03:07.000 And I hope that many other people take advantage of the situation to get married and follow in their footsteps and then have long lasting decades long marriages filled with children and grandchildren.

00:03:19.000 I hope that is where this goes.

00:03:20.000 It is actually culturally significant.

00:03:22.000 It's culturally significant because tacitly, just as naturally, there has been over the course of the last few decades a rebellion against normality, a rebellion against the very idea that men and women ought to get married to one another and that somehow all decisions that men and women make with regard to relationships are equally praiseworthy and equally useful and equally likely to lead to happiness.

00:03:50.000 And that isn't true.

00:03:51.000 Tacitly, what is happening here and the reason people are celebrating is that singledom isn't ideal.

00:03:55.000 It is not, in fact, a wonderful, happy thing.

00:03:57.000 That doesn't mean you have to be miserable if you're single.

00:04:00.000 What it does mean is that aspiring to be married, to be part of a happy marriage is a wonderful thing.

00:04:05.000 That is a good aspiration.

00:04:07.000 It's an aspiration that is natural to the human heart.

00:04:10.000 And that is why people are happy for Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.

00:04:13.000 The idea that romance, a traditional romance between, you know, the high school cheerleader and the high school quarterback, the reason that is sort of a platonic ideal in America is for a reason because that is the basis of the forwarding of civilization.

00:04:28.000 Marriage is the fundamental bedrock institution of all successful civilizations.

00:04:33.000 And that's good.

00:04:34.000 And so what this is tacitly is a cultural rejection of the idea that the actual ideal is non-marriage, that the actual ideal is prancing around like Madonna in your seventy years, being a faded pop star and trying to convince everybody that actually you are super duper happy waking up drunk in the mornings by yourself in a five-star hotel.

00:04:55.000 These images are great.

00:04:56.000 They're wonderful.

00:04:57.000 They are good for the world.

00:04:58.000 It also, by the way, happens to be a return to traditionalism in wait for it.

00:05:02.000 Gender roles. 1.00

00:05:03.000 Now again, gender roles don't mean that you can't have a successful woman in a in a marriage. 1.00

00:05:08.000 As I've said one million times at this point, my wife is a doctor.

00:05:11.000 She went to medical school.

00:05:12.000 I supported her while she went to medical school.

00:05:15.000 We had babies while she went to medical school.

00:05:17.000 So I'm very much in favor of women being able to work the jobs that they want to work. 0.59

00:05:21.000 And so there's nothing unfeminine.

00:05:23.000 For example, about Taylor Swift being a billionaire singer, that's fine, but she's very clearly a woman and he is a platonic football star.

00:05:32.000 Hey, he is a good looking, large human who runs into other people for a living and knocks them down.

00:05:38.000 It is, in fact, the English teacher and the gym teacher in a sort of cookie cutter kind of way.

00:05:48.000 If you looked in a picture book for traditionalism and gender roles, what you would spot is Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.

00:05:53.000 And then they would get married and then they would have babies.

00:05:55.000 And that is good.

00:05:56.000 And I can't wait for them to have children.

00:05:58.000 First of all, it'll be good for them because children are wonderful for the world and they are wonderful for the people who have them.

00:06:02.000 They mature you, they make you a better person.

00:06:04.000 Marriage also matures you and makes you a better person.

00:06:07.000 So good for them.

00:06:07.000 That's wonderful.

00:06:08.000 It's spiritually fulfilling and awesome.

00:06:10.000 And I hope many, many people who were heretofore anti marriage or ambivalent about marriage, ambivalent about baby making, I hope all of them decide that Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift are right and then they follow the pattern.

00:06:23.000 I hope they do that.

00:06:25.000 I really do.

00:06:25.000 I think it's a good thing because there, listen, there are a lot of young people who are not going to listen to, you know, funny, duddy, old conservatives like me who have been preaching this for legitimately my whole life, but will listen to Taylor Swift or at least follow her example.

00:06:38.000 That's a very good thing.

00:06:40.000 Again, nothing I'm saying here is being ironic.

00:06:42.000 I mean that's absolutely sincerely.

00:06:45.000 So maybe we get a Taylor Swift baby boom and that would be very, very good for the civilization.

00:06:48.000 That would be excellent.

00:06:49.000 What's going to be fascinating is to see what comes next for Taylor Swift, esthetically and musically.

00:06:54.000 So we made fun of her album cover a couple of weeks ago on the program, a very kind of oversexualized album cover and we pointed out that she's been getting more and more sexual on her album covers.

00:07:04.000 It's going to be hard to do that when you're married and when you presumably then go on to have kids that have quite the same sort of resonance.

00:07:11.000 So what's going to happen to Taylor Swift?

00:07:14.000 Well, I think that Taylor Swift happens to be a marketing genius. 0.74

00:07:16.000 I don't know if she's a musical genius.

00:07:18.000 I've made that opinion clear.

00:07:19.000 I think the Tortured Poets Department is a terrible album.

00:07:22.000 But when it comes to her marketing ability, Taylor Swift is legitimately the greatest who has ever played the game. 0.96

00:07:30.000 She is amazing at the game, for sure.

00:07:33.000 That's why the entire media went nuts when she gets married, right?

00:07:36.000 When she gets engaged, the entire media goes insane.

00:07:38.000 Here, for example, with CBS's Olivia Ronaldi flilipping out over the engagement.

00:07:46.000 Taylor Swift is engaged.

00:07:54.000 This come back to me.

00:07:56.000 She just posted it.

00:07:57.000 Oh my God.

00:07:58.000 Oh my God.

00:08:01.000 Oh, it's huge.

00:08:02.000 The ring is enormous.

00:08:03.000 This is so exciting.

00:08:06.000 Oh my God.

00:08:09.000 It's on her Instagram.

00:08:12.000 Oh my God.

00:08:14.000 Oh my God.

00:08:14.000 I feel like Paul Revere right now.

00:08:16.000 Oh my God.

00:08:18.000 This is a very exciting moment for me in my professional career because I get to announce that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are engaged.

00:08:25.000 As you're talking to Joe Lang, our lovely producer Gabby Ake texted me and said Taylor Swift's engaged.

00:08:31.000 And you can see it right there on her social media.

00:08:34.000 She put it up in that post that they got engaged with the caption Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married with a little dynamite.

00:08:45.000 Olivia Rinaldi, by the way, is the White House reporter for CBS.

00:08:48.000 These are serious people, supposedly, who are super, duper, duper excited.

00:08:52.000 In fact, the President of the United States was asked about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey getting engaged.

00:08:56.000 Here's what President Trump had to say.

00:08:59.000 Trax, Kelsey, and Taylor Swift are engaged in.

00:09:02.000 Well, what's your reaction, sir?

00:09:03.000 Well, I wish him a lot of luck.

00:09:06.000 No, I think he's a great player.

00:09:10.000 I think he's a great guy.

00:09:12.000 And I think that she's a terrific person.

00:09:14.000 So I wish them a lot of luck.

00:09:17.000 Yeah, good for him.

00:09:18.000 And again, it's good.

00:09:20.000 We found the one thing Americans can unite upon.

00:09:22.000 Coming up next, even more on Taytay.

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00:11:36.000 So pop as a medium is a teenage medium.

00:11:39.000 It is a medium that is made for teenage girls and people, because we have now prolonged adolescence or in their mid-20s.

00:11:46.000 You don't see a lot of 50-year-olds walking around singing pop.

00:11:50.000 Not only that, pop music is based in certain tropes.

00:11:54.000 You're being brokenhearted about your latest breakup or being F you about your latest breakup or something about your latest breakup like all of pop music is is basically rooted in sexual lust in terms of its lyrics and or emotional problems that is what pop music is about, which is why people age out of it.

00:12:14.000 At the minute that women stop being sexually alluring, it's very difficult for them to be successful in the pop world. 0.99

00:12:20.000 And women age out of that in the pop world pretty quickly, right? 1.00

00:12:23.000 Katy Perry right now is the butt of enormous mockery online for her latest tour. 0.67

00:12:28.000 She's considered to be too old for the game. 1.00

00:12:30.000 Katy Perry is five years older than Taylor Swift.

00:12:32.000 She is 40 years old.

00:12:34.000 And she's kind of going in the opposite direction.

00:12:36.000 It just recently broke up with Orlando Bloom.

00:12:39.000 And so she's kind of seen as desperate, trying to maintain attention.

00:12:44.000 What's she going to do?

00:12:45.000 And so can you be a 43, 45 year old woman and singing about your latest breakup and how broken you are, the same way that you could when you were thirty?

00:12:53.000 Probably not.

00:12:54.000 And is pop as a musical medium capable of carrying actual interesting messages about, for example, marriage and having kids?

00:13:03.000 When I think of the sort of musical genres in which people sing about marriage and having kids, the only one that pops to mind is actually country.

00:13:11.000 So watch, watch for it.

00:13:13.000 I would not be totally shocked if Taylor Swift's next album, she moves back toward country.

00:13:19.000 That that would not be surprising to me at all because that actually is a medium where people frequently sing about this kind of stuff.

00:13:24.000 And of course, country has now broadened out to include things like Beyonce's latest album.

00:13:28.000 So it would not be shocking to watch Taylor kind of move back into that medium as opposed to the poppy, kind of drug induced, hazy Charlie XCX pop music that she's been doing for the last five or ten years.

00:13:42.000 It will be fascinating to watch.

00:13:44.000 But again, my great hope here is that an entire generation of young people, particularly young women, who were, who were told by the feminist movement and by pop stars like Taylor Swift that relationships were bound to fail and they were all about this kind of teenage angst mature along with Taylor Swift, see this as unabashedly good.

00:14:02.000 But by the way, again, you're not seeing a lot of blowback.

00:14:05.000 That's what's fascinating.

00:14:07.000 Despite all the talk about how marriage is a patriarchal institution.

00:14:11.000 Marriage robs women of their identity. 0.94

00:14:14.000 Marriage and romance is simply a hallmark of our horrible sexist past.

00:14:21.000 I've yet to see anyone, literally anyone on the left talking about why it's so terrible for Taylor Swift to get engaged and married.

00:14:30.000 The sort of Gloria Steinem take on marriage is dead. 1.00

00:14:34.000 And Taylor Swift may have just put a stake through it, which is really quite fascinating because it turns out marriage is a natural institution.

00:14:39.000 Romance between men and women is a wonderful and natural thing.

00:14:43.000 It turns out that women want, by the way, masculine men. 0.75

00:14:47.000 You'll notice that Taylor Swift didn't end up marrying any of the sort of androgynous dudes that she dated.

00:14:54.000 She ended up marrying, you know, the football player with his doofus brother who does a podcast.

00:15:00.000 Like that's who she ended up marrying or getting engaged to. 0.83

00:15:04.000 And he ended up marrying the, again, platonically beautiful cheerleader type.

00:15:09.000 Like that's about as classic a story from 1955 as you could find.

00:15:15.000 And that's got to be driving some people nuts, but they won't say it.

00:15:18.000 Or maybe naturally they understand that, again, deep in the human heart, there is, in fact, a desire by women for masculine men and by men for feminine women and for both of them to get married and then have babies.

00:15:30.000 So good luck to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.

00:15:33.000 Again, I think this is a very, very good thing for Western civilization.

00:15:36.000 And if Western civilization needs more babies, hopefully this leads off the generation Taylor baby boom. 1.00

00:15:41.000 Okay.

00:15:41.000 Meanwhile, another very, very important cultural news, but let's be, let's be clear.

00:15:45.000 Everything pales in comparison to this.

00:15:46.000 It was like an asteroid hit the Earth and wiped out the dinosaurs yesterday.

00:15:49.000 The only thing anyone cared about was this engagement.

00:15:54.000 And I and I do have to say it will be fascinating to see what the wedding is like because they could do an unexpected thing, which I think is probably what they should do.

00:16:01.000 I think everybody expects them to have a $20 million wedding.

00:16:04.000 I think what would be fascinating is if she kind of counter programs and does a low-key wedding in a church with Travis Kelsey, classic Americana, just family and friends.

00:16:15.000 I think that would actually be a very good brand move for her.

00:16:18.000 Not that she needs my brand advice.

00:16:19.000 She's much better at this than literally anyone who's ever lived in the history of planet Earth.

00:16:22.000 But I think that that would be counter programming, especially in an era where there are so many people who are worried about conspicuous consumption and and all of the rest.

00:16:30.000 Well, I think we're done with this.

00:16:31.000 Wait breaking breaking this just in.

00:16:34.000 Travis Kelsey apparently has an ad for American Eagle.

00:16:36.000 By the way, I gotta say American Eagle crushing it with the with the ads.

00:16:39.000 I mean, between Sydney Sweeney and now Travis Kelsey and having an ad to drop, like the day of a mind-blowing, universe-exploding announcement about Travis and Taytay, really good for American Eagle.

00:16:54.000 Their branding department is doing an amazing job.

00:16:56.000 Here's the ad.

00:17:09.000 Okay, so he's dressed in a tennis outfit.

00:17:12.000 He's walking around America.

00:17:14.000 There's an American flag and everything.

00:17:17.000 Hugging random friends of many races.

00:17:22.000 And laughing with many friends while we're in clothes.

00:17:26.000 Because this is what you do in American Eagle outfits.

00:17:28.000 You laugh with your friends.

00:17:30.000 Okay.

00:17:32.000 I mean, all right.

00:17:34.000 Cool.

00:17:35.000 Basically, I think they just had a Travis Kelsey ad banked and they were waiting for this particular moment.

00:17:40.000 So again, good on the American Eagle ad department.

00:17:43.000 I will say that that is a very chunky sweater from American Eagle and not my type of sweater.

00:17:49.000 But again, smart, smart advertising.

00:17:51.000 Capitalism always wins, gang.

00:17:53.000 Well, speaking of the power of advertising, I asked our friends and sponsorsors over at Comet, a project of perplexity, how much money is spent in the American advertising market and how much did American Eagle spend on marketing last year?

00:18:04.000 Apparently, total advertising spending in the United States for 2024 was 354 billion dollars, a lot of money reflecting the ongoing strength and growth of the American advertising market.

00:18:15.000 So that is a lot of money.

00:18:17.000 Obviously, a lot of companies spend a lot of money on advertising.

00:18:20.000 American Eagle last year spent $206 million on advertising.

00:18:24.000 I assume they're going to spend even more this year, but the Travis Kelsey ad.

00:18:28.000 The Sydney Sweeney ad, it just shows that a good piece of advertising, much more valuable than just throwing dollars at the thing.

00:18:35.000 So, you know, good on American Eagle for having signed up all of these talents ready to drop an ad at a moment's notice if, you know, the biggest marriage announcement in human history happens.

00:18:44.000 But in other cultural news, the Cracker Barrel Wars have been fought and they have been won.

00:18:50.000 Cracker Barrel has backed down and the old white dude on the Cracker Barrel billboards, he's back and he's better than ever with his creaky joints and his and his rocking chair. 0.99

00:19:01.000 I'm making fun of this a little bit because, listen, do I think that it was like the most important thing in the world that Cracker Barrel tried to change its logo and then changed it back?

00:19:10.000 No.

00:19:11.000 Do I think that it was all about the wokeness?

00:19:14.000 Not really.

00:19:15.000 Do I think it was indicative of corporate America's disconnect from its own brand and from an enormous amount of white America. 0.50

00:19:20.000 Yes.

00:19:21.000 So, do I think that the reams of paper and gallons of ink that have been spilled over Cracker Barrel's relatively mild rethink that that was deeply important?

00:19:34.000 I'm not sure, but, but I understand that for many people this is a question of passion.

00:19:39.000 Obviously, I don't operate in the Cracker Barrel world.

00:19:41.000 Cracker Barrel is not kosher.

00:19:42.000 I've never eaten at one.

00:19:44.000 It seems charming.

00:19:45.000 I've heard from people they enjoy it.

00:19:47.000 As the president would say, many people say that Cracker Barrel is so great, so wonderful.

00:19:52.000 President Trump offered his own advice.

00:19:54.000 to Cracker Barrel just yesterday.

00:19:57.000 And the president coming off the sidelines to suplex Cracker Barrel basically ended the Cracker Barrel resistance and he outflanked the Cracker Barrel woke forces and he broke them, broke them like a champion.

00:20:12.000 He put out a post on Truth Social, Cracker Barrel should go back to the old logo and make a mistake based on customer response, the ultimate poll, and manage the company better than ever before.

00:20:20.000 They got a billion dollars worth of free publicity if they play their cards right.

00:20:23.000 Very tricky to do, but a great opportunity.

00:20:24.000 Have a major news conference today.

00:20:26.000 Make Cracker Barrel a winner again.

00:20:30.000 Remember, in just a short period of time, I made the United States of America the hottest country anywhere in the world.

00:20:34.000 One year ago, it was dead.

00:20:36.000 Good luck.

00:20:37.000 Jonathan Capehart at MSNBC just last week was raging over MAGA voters, saying that he was sick of their outrage and all this stuff, but he loses, he loses and MAGA wins.

00:20:48.000 Cracker Barrel has been defeated.

00:20:50.000 They were forced to sign their surrender at Appomattox.

00:20:54.000 The US restaurant chain has now abandoned its plans to adopt a new, generic, stupid looking logo.

00:21:00.000 The company said in a social media post, we thank our guests for sharing their voices and love for Cracker Barrel.

00:21:04.000 We said we would listen and we have.

00:21:06.000 Our new logo is going away.

00:21:07.000 Our old timer will remain.

00:21:14.000 President Trump then congratulated them on the reversal.

00:21:17.000 Magnanimous in victories ever.

00:21:19.000 So congratulations, Cracker Barrel, on changing your logo back to what it was.

00:21:22.000 All your fans very much appreciate it.

00:21:26.000 David Johnson, the CEO of branding strategy vision PR group, told BBC's US partner, CBS, the rebrand was a flop.

00:21:35.000 The shares had nosed up by about seven percent following the announcement of the brand reversal.

00:21:41.000 And now, presumably, you will see the brand shoot up to the stars, to the stars, to the moon because.

00:21:48.000 Because the war has been won and the old man will still be leaning on that cracker barrel in their logo and the pegboards never went away, right?

00:21:56.000 I mean, they still they still had all the Americana in the store.

00:21:58.000 So again, do I think this was overblown some?

00:22:00.000 Yeah, I do.

00:22:01.000 But indicative of the winning streak of MAGA already coming up, a horrifying story out of Scotland that's becoming a meme and kind of iconic all about the Muslim migration problem across Europe. 0.83

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00:24:35.000 Meanwhile, President Trump had himself a good time at the White House yesterday.

00:24:38.000 He had a three and a half hour presser.

00:24:42.000 I mean, the man must hold his urine like a camel.

00:24:45.000 I just have to say that is a very, very long presser.

00:24:48.000 My goodness.

00:24:51.000 Wow.

00:24:52.000 I guess one of the prerequisites to being a part of Trump's cabinet is that you can go a very, very long time without ever stepping out to use the restroom.

00:25:00.000 President Trump himself mocked Joe Biden's pressers after this three and a half hour presser that was longer than Godfather One.

00:25:06.000 Here he was.

00:25:08.000 You have not had this happen for four years.

00:25:13.000 You sat and you'd ask one question to Biden and it was always the ice cream question, right?

00:25:18.000 What flavor ice cream do you like best?

00:25:22.000 I like vanilla.

00:25:24.000 And that was the end of the conference.

00:25:27.000 Our own Michael Molls was there for this magnificent cabinet meeting.

00:25:30.000 He was the first podcaster in human history to cover a cabinet meeting yesterday, an honor he richly did not deserve.

00:25:36.000 But there he was.

00:25:37.000 Marco Rubio, I think, had the wine of the day, actually.

00:25:39.000 So he was celebrating.

00:25:41.000 upcoming Labor Day and Marco Rubio said, I've never appreciated a Labor Day as much as this one.

00:25:46.000 Well, Mr President, first of all, everyone's made this comment already and needs to be echoed.

00:25:50.000 Again, you were elected as the President of Working Americans and that's why this Labor Day is so meaningful.

00:25:55.000 For me personally, this is the most meaningful Labor Day of my life as someone with four jobs.

00:25:59.000 And so, that's true.

00:26:08.000 Good line there from the Secretary of State as well as the head of the National Library, the official janitor of the United States, the head of the NSC and about eight other jobs.

00:26:18.000 So, you know, President Trump is having a good time.

00:26:20.000 The Democrats are not having a good time.

00:26:22.000 The Democrats are in serious, serious trouble.

00:26:23.000 Harry Ensign over at CNN, he says the Democrats right now are about as popular as Cracker Barrel's rebrand attempt.

00:26:31.000 The Democratic brand right now has about the appeal with the American voter as the Cracker Barrel rebrand has with the American consumers.

00:26:39.000 Bad, bad, bad.

00:26:41.000 What are you doing?

00:26:42.000 Oh my goodness gracious. 0.97

00:26:43.000 What are we talking about here in terms of big party registration changes in the key swing states?

00:26:48.000 Let's look at the key four swing states that in fact do keep track of registration by party.

00:26:53.000 Look, the Republican Party is in their best position at this point in the cycle.

00:26:57.000 since at least 2005 in all four of these key battleground states?

00:27:04.000 Well, I mean, that is, I can't imagine why they're unpopular, except that you totally, totally can.

00:27:10.000 Democrats have been wrongfooted by President Trump at every single turn.

00:27:13.000 That is particularly true on the issue of crime.

00:27:15.000 Crime is just a terrible issue for Democrats.

00:27:17.000 It has always been and will always be a terrible issue for Democrats until they become tough on crime, which apparently they have decided never to do again in the wake of Black Lives Matter Summer 2020.

00:27:27.000 Jimmy Raskin, representative from Maryland.

00:27:30.000 He said, you know, we keep focusing too much on crime, but crime has always been a part of American history.

00:27:35.000 Oh my God.

00:27:38.000 He's trying to militarize our society, intimidate his political opponents.

00:27:43.000 The whole idea of picking cities based on their partisan leadership is absurd.

00:27:49.000 I mean, there are lots of Republican cities and towns struggling with crime.

00:27:53.000 Everybody is across the country.

00:27:55.000 Always.

00:27:56.000 Crime has always been part of our history.

00:28:00.000 And yet crime is down.

00:28:02.000 In DC, for example, it's at a 30-year low.

00:28:07.000 Crime has always been a part of our history is a really, really bad argument to the person who just got carjacked.

00:28:12.000 You know, you should just acknowledge crime has been a part of American history forever.

00:28:17.000 In fact, murder goes all the way back to Cain and Abel.

00:28:20.000 It's always been a part of human history.

00:28:21.000 So the fact that your family member was murdered in front of you on a street in Washington, DC, just understand that's always been a part of human history.

00:28:29.000 Good luck with this particular attempt.

00:28:31.000 Meanwhile, the DNC summer meetings are going swimmingly for the Democrats.

00:28:34.000 By swimmingly, I mean they are totally psychotic.

00:28:36.000 I mean, I don't know what they are doing.

00:28:38.000 Here is a DNC summer meeting speaker.

00:28:40.000 Her name is Insha Rahman.

00:28:41.000 She is the vice president for advocacy and partnerships at the Vera Institute of Justice saying, you know, it doesn't matter to people.

00:28:48.000 Crime doesn't matter to people.

00:28:50.000 I feel like crime matters to people.

00:28:54.000 You want to talk about the crime issues voters care about.

00:28:57.000 Where does Trump go?

00:28:58.000 Migrant crime, car jackings, the really lurid, awful stuff that is a crazy, crazy visual. 0.99

00:29:04.000 Don't take the bait, because most Americans are more worried about how are we going to address mental health issues, the visible homelessness that we see on streets, and how do we deal with mental health and other issues that drive the sort of random incidents that scare all of us.

00:29:21.000 That's what you should be talking about.

00:29:23.000 That's where you should be focused.

00:29:24.000 Don't take the bait and talk about migrant crime or car jackings or the things that actually don't matter to.

00:29:33.000 They don't matter, which is why you guys are in the minority now.

00:29:36.000 Things are going amazing for you.

00:29:37.000 And that was the entire DNC.

00:29:39.000 Apparently, the Democratic National Committee has decided that their chief pitch to other Democrats is the worst things happening in America are that criminals are going to prison and or being deported.

00:29:49.000 Here, for example, is DNC member Millie Herrera crying about Alligator Alcatraz, which is just a holding facility in Florida for illegal immigrants, many of whom have committed significant crimes in the United States.

00:30:01.000 This is just unbelievable, unbelievable to a lot of us that have experienced persecution in other countries that have fled to the United States thinking that we were protected here by our constitution.

00:30:15.000 So we are all together in this, and I really appreciate all the support, and I'm getting emotional, I'm sorry, all the support that immigrants are receiving from our party, because the Democratic Party is the party of immigrants, the party of working class, the party of women, the party of LGBTQ, disabled, everybody.

00:30:42.000 It is amazing.

00:30:43.000 They're just going to continue to try to cram down this bizarre ideology, this ideology filled with luxury beliefs on the rest of America.

00:30:51.000 Meanwhile, Democrats were chanting in support of illegal aliens yesterday as well.

00:30:55.000 So things are going just amazing for Democrats across the country.

00:30:58.000 Here were a bunch of Democrats wearing pink vests.

00:31:00.000 Pink vests.

00:31:01.000 I don't even know where you buy these, but apparently they're available maybe at Amazon or something in favor of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an alleged human trafficker.

00:31:09.000 So cool job guys, you're doing great.

00:31:13.000 Kilmar is our neighbor, you can't have him try.

00:31:19.000 No, Kilmar is our neighbor, you can't have him try.

00:31:25.000 No.

00:31:29.000 So a bunch of old white sexually fluid people singing in the worst possible way old folk songs with bad rewritten lyrics. 1.00

00:31:38.000 You guys are you guys are doing amazing.

00:31:40.000 You're doing amazing.

00:31:41.000 That is when you're not standing for Hamas and their friends in Gaza. 0.89

00:31:45.000 So the Democratic Party has decided they're just on the side of Hamas, period.

00:31:49.000 Whatever they can do at this point to preserve Hamas, they will do. 0.99

00:31:51.000 If that means telling lies about genocide, they will do it.

00:31:54.000 If that means telling lies about mass purposeful starvation in Gaza, they will do it.

00:31:58.000 If it means telling lies about what Israel is doing or how the war started or anything else, they will just they will just continue to humor this kind of crap.

00:32:05.000 And so you end up with DNC chair Ken Martin yesterday saying that the crisis in Gaza is the thing that democrats should be most worried about.

00:32:11.000 By the way, that crisis is going to end in the very near future because Israel is going to finish off the war by either taking over Gaza City or Hamas is going to engage in some form of surrender and give up the hostages it currently holds.

00:32:22.000 Again, this war could have been over literally October 6 by never starting or it could have been over at any time by Hamas surrendering, disarming, going into exile and surrendering his hostages.

00:32:31.000 They're not doing any of that.

00:32:33.000 Israel has shipped in more food per capita than any conflict in the history of humanity.

00:32:39.000 And here is the DNC lamenting the evils of Israel, of course.

00:32:45.000 The crisis in Gaza is urgent.

00:32:48.000 This resolution is focused on the humanitarian crisis and makes clear that it must be addressed as the emergency that it is.

00:32:56.000 As I've always said, we have to center humanity in this conversation.

00:33:01.000 Thousands and thousands of innocent lives have been lost in this conflict.

00:33:07.000 It has now become commonplace, unacceptably, to accept civilian lives as a casualty of conflict.

00:33:20.000 One innocent life lost is one too many.

00:33:25.000 My resolution calls for the secure and unrestricted flow of aid to Gaza, which is absolutely essential and is the position of 44 Senate Democrats who signed a letter recently calling for a large-scale expansion in aid.

00:33:44.000 Okay, the key word there would be secure.

00:33:46.000 If you give the aid to Hamas, then Hamas uses the aid. 0.83

00:33:52.000 Right now, there is no starvation in Gaza.

00:33:54.000 You can see pictures from Gaza right now of the supermarkets.

00:33:57.000 There are, in fact, markets in Gaza that are fully stocked.

00:34:00.000 People who are going to the aid stations are leaving behind items, which is not something that starving people actually do.

00:34:06.000 And when he says secure, what he means is that he wants the UN back in charge so Hamas can continue to fight on. 0.86

00:34:11.000 And when he says one civilian dead is too many civilians, I mean, of course, in an ideal world, no civilians would ever die.

00:34:17.000 In an ideal world, Hamas would not be in charge of an entire swath of territory murdering people who attempt to get aid, taking civilians hostages, attempting to build up military capacity again and running.

00:34:32.000 the entirety of the Gaza Strip as a hellhole Sharia law tyranny. 1.00

00:34:35.000 That would be the ideal.

00:34:36.000 Unfortunately, we live in the real world over here where Hamas hides behind civilians in an attempt to preserve itself. 0.80

00:34:43.000 This is never how war has worked, but if Democrats insist on living in the world of fancy, they will probably continue to lose.

00:34:48.000 Right, folks, in just a moment, we'll finally get to the Scotland story.

00:34:50.000 It's totally crazy.

00:34:51.000 And the second part of our breaking news story about the American Medical Association continues to be even more shocking.

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00:35:37.000 Alrighty, folks.

00:35:38.000 So meanwhile, over in Scotland, all hell has broken loose over a kind of amazing story, a pretty horrifying story.

00:35:46.000 Actually, it's been under reported.

00:35:47.000 And so we are still trying to find out what the details are on this story.

00:35:51.000 All we have to go on, really, is the fact that a 14-year-old girl was arrested for carryrying a couple of knives.

00:35:58.000 We know that much.

00:35:59.000 And we have video of the actual incident in which she showed knives.

00:36:04.000 So she's walking around a place called Dundee, Scotland.

00:36:06.000 The allegation here that seems to be made, she's being taped by a couple of people, one of whom is clearly a male.

00:36:14.000 Apparently, according to people who are associated with the case, this person is a migrant male, Muslim migrant male.

00:36:21.000 And she's yelling, this young girl, fourteen years old, yelling at this guy about staying away from her twelve year old sister.

00:36:28.000 The guy's filming her.

00:36:29.000 She is carrying in one hand a knife and in the other, it appears to be like a hand axe. 0.69

00:36:33.000 Yes, you have a knife.

00:36:37.000 You don't have to throw me.

00:36:40.000 You're a bad and catch me.

00:36:41.000 Why are you f***ing me?

00:36:42.000 You're a f***ing cat bashers.

00:36:44.000 Show the knife.

00:36:50.000 Don't touch her.

00:36:51.000 That's it.

00:36:52.000 Show the knife.

00:36:52.000 Don't touch my life.

00:36:54.000 Show the knife.

00:36:55.000 That's it.

00:36:56.000 Don't touch my life.

00:36:58.000 She has f***ing 12. 1.00

00:36:59.000 We're dropping off.

00:37:01.000 We're talking to her.

00:37:02.000 She's hatching me.

00:37:03.000 She has f***ing 12 and you just battered me, man.

00:37:06.000 She's like f***ing hatching me. 0.98

00:37:09.000 Yeah, yeah, so done.

00:37:12.000 I can't, I can't, I can't.

00:37:13.000 Don't touch her.

00:37:16.000 Don't touch me.

00:37:16.000 I don't Thank you.

00:37:19.000 So the man is obviously speaking with a foreign accent.

00:37:21.000 He's saying, show the knife, show the knife.

00:37:22.000 The girls are shouting, don't touch her, don't touch my sister, don't touch her. 1.00

00:37:26.000 BBC reports, quote, a 14-year-old girl has been charged after allegedly brandishing a weapon on a street in Dundee.

00:37:31.000 The incident happened in St. Anne Lane in the Lochi area of the city about 7:40 p.m. on Saturday.

00:37:39.000 It's understood no one else has been arrested or is wanted in connection with the incident.

00:37:43.000 And that's all the BBC reports.

00:37:47.000 We really don't know much more than that at this point.

00:37:49.000 There has been no follow-up report.

00:37:52.000 We don't really know exactly what the what the story here is.

00:37:56.000 The Economic Times reports that the video shows two teenage girls confronting a man who reportedly asked for their phone numbers and proceeded to grope one of them as per western standard, but I don't know what that site is.

00:38:06.000 The older girl is then shown brandishing a knife and a hatchet while telling the man filming to stay away from her and her sister.

00:38:11.000 The man was shouting, show the knife, show the knife.

00:38:13.000 And then the man appears to speak in Arabic.

00:38:15.000 So that, of course, leads a bunch of people to believe that he is a Muslim migrant.

00:38:20.000 Now, there's no question that there has been a massive uptick in sex crimes by foreign nationals across Europe. 0.93

00:38:25.000 It is a very, very real thing.

00:38:28.000 According to the UK Telegraph, foreigners accounted for one in seven sexual cr offense convictions last year, including rapes.

00:38:36.000 And this has been true across Europe.

00:38:38.000 The migrant crisis in Europe has extended across the continent.

00:38:42.000 It's been particularly bad in England.

00:38:44.000 It's really been bad in England.

00:38:46.000 That, of course, is connected with the decades-long cover up of the sexual molestation of underage girls by rings of Muslim men. 0.76

00:38:54.000 The so-called grooming gang scandal in England.

00:38:58.000 The attempt by the authorities and by the media to bury that and pretend that it had nothing to do with Islamic immigration.

00:39:03.000 It had nothing to do with Muslim men who were abusing white girls in England led to nationwide scandal as it should have. 1.00

00:39:12.000 Politician after politician covered it up.

00:39:14.000 In June 2025, Yvette Cooper, who's the Labour Home Secretary, explained that they had done an investigation, but then downplayed the impact of Pakistani men.

00:39:25.000 South Asian is the euphemism that's used in England for Pakistani or of Middle Eastern or Muslim descent.

00:39:33.000 Mr. Speaker, I warned in January that the data collection we had inherited from the previous government on ethnicity was completely inadequate.

00:39:42.000 It was only collected on 37% of suspects.

00:39:46.000 Baroness Casey's audit confirms that ethnicity data is not recorded for two thirds of grooming gang perpetrators, and she says it is not good enough to support any statements about the ethnicity of group-based child sexual exploitation offenders at the national level.

00:40:04.000 I agree with that conclusion.

00:40:06.000 Frankly, it is ridiculous and helps no one that this basic information is not collected, especially when there have been warnings and recommendations stretching back 13 years about the woefully inadequate data on perpetrators, which prevents patterns of crime being understood and tackled.

00:40:26.000 Ignoring the issues, not examining and exposing them to the light allows the criminality and depravity of a minority of men to be used to marginalise whole communities.

00:40:38.000 The vast majority of people in our British Asian and Pakistani heritage communities continue to be appalled by these terrible crimes and agree that the criminal minority of sick predators and perpetrators in every community must be dealt with robustly by the criminal law. 0.98

00:40:59.000 Now again, the reason that the grooming gang scandal was covered up in the first place had to do with the fact, and journalists openly acknowledged this at the time, it had to do with the fact that there was a widespread feeling among members of the left and the intelligentsia in England that if they acknowledged that there were large grooming gangs of Muslim men preying on white girls, that would somehow benefit the British National Party that would help people like Tommy Robinson, which is insane.

00:41:24.000 You're going to cover up the grooming of girls because it helps your political opponents. 1.00

00:41:28.000 If you point it out, totally crazy.

00:41:30.000 Maggie Oliver, who is one of the police officers responsible for covering up the grooming gang scandal and really pursuing it to its end.

00:41:36.000 She slammed Yvette Cooper after Yvette Cooper gave this whole speech about how we can't marginalize people and ethnic data is not available and all the rest.

00:41:46.000 I have heard it so many times before.

00:41:49.000 I've heard this afternoon just more political point scoring, empty words, an apology for something that up until today they didn't care about.

00:41:59.000 And I'm not a party political person, as I say.

00:42:02.000 This is successive governments who have turned a blind eye, who have ignored decades of abuse of very vulnerable children because it was a political hot potato.

00:42:14.000 Child abuse comes in all forms, in the home, in the church, in football.

00:42:20.000 But these predators in the groom, so-called grooming gangs, we're now calling them rape gangs. 0.52

00:42:26.000 They are predominantly Pakistani Muslim men.

00:42:30.000 We need to record ethnicity.

00:42:35.000 That of course is exactly right.

00:42:37.000 That of course is exactly right.

00:42:39.000 But you'll recall back in January 2025 when the mayor of London suggested there was nothing to acknowledge about the grooming gang scandal at all.

00:42:47.000 I asked you this question last week and you found every which way but not to answer it.

00:42:53.000 Just how many grooming gangs have we got in London?

00:42:57.000 To avoid any misunderstanding, can she define what she means by that?

00:43:00.000 Yes.

00:43:01.000 If you look at what's gone on in Rotherham, where there are people taking young girls, grooming them for sex.

00:43:08.000 That is what I'm talking about.

00:43:10.000 Well, we know in London there are issues about exploitation of young people, but they're not as defined by the member in her definition of what those types of gangs are.

00:43:21.000 So are you saying we haven't got the same sort of gangs that are in Rotherham, Bradford and lots of other places in the country?

00:43:29.000 Please don't misunderstand.

00:43:31.000 What does she mean by that?

00:43:32.000 You know full well what I mean by that.

00:43:34.000 It's all over the television.

00:43:35.000 You know exactly what I mean by that.

00:43:40.000 And of course, she was right.

00:43:41.000 So this case of this Scottish girl who's holding the knives, this has of course gone viral because it has meme potential online.

00:43:47.000 We're still waiting to hear all the details.

00:43:49.000 And so before jumping to a conclusion that we know exactly what's happening here based on the tape, I'll wait to hear more of the details from what it appears to be.

00:43:57.000 Obviously, if we are now living in a situation in which the authorities refuse to protect British citizens from the predaitions of Muslim men because of political correctness, this is why Europe is dying. 1.00

00:44:10.000 A Europe that refuses to defend itself is a Europe that will bow.

00:44:14.000 It is a Europe that will surrender to the forces of darkness.

00:44:16.000 We've seen this all over the continent.

00:44:17.000 This is not just a problem.

00:44:19.000 in England, it's a problem in Germany, it's a problem in France.

00:44:23.000 Michelle Halleback, famous novelist, who wrote a book called Submission about what would happen in France if it ever gave over to Sharia law and why that would happen.

00:44:30.000 It's a fascinating book.

00:44:31.000 It's a fascinating look inside the kind of post religious modern mind in Europe.

00:44:37.000 But the basic thesis of the book, which is that secular leftism leads to an emptying out of the spiritual strength necessary to combat the extremism of radical Islam, that part cannot be in dispute at this point in Europe.

00:44:51.000 And that is why you're seeing so many people are glumming onto the image of a young girl having to defend herself with knives allegedly from older men touching her who happen to be from parts of the earth where they simply do not recognize the primacy of women's sexual consent in the same way that people in the West do.

00:45:10.000 That is just the incompatibility of certain cultures with other cultures is a reality. 0.96

00:45:14.000 Refusing to acknowledge that reality is one of the reasons why the left is now in a state of serious political crisis all around the West.

00:45:22.000 And meanwhile, speaking of refusals to acknowledge reality, yesterday we reported.

00:45:27.000 This shocking story about the AMA exposed the president of the American Medical Association, Dr. Bobby McCamala, for his incompetence and his election of evidence-based medicine.

00:45:35.000 In nearly every case, the AMA has abdicated its duty to do no do no harm over and over.

00:45:39.000 Dr. Bobby made it clear that the AMA deferred to the experts.

00:45:42.000 That's after the AMA has spent nearly two decades lending its credibility to the entire fraudulent industry of trans medicine. 1.00

00:45:48.000 As it turns out, it only took a brief call with the head of the AMA for their house of cards to come tumbling down.

00:45:53.000 Here's what it sounded like in yesterday's show when Dr. Bobby Makamala was confronted by Dr. Eitan Haim and Representative Brad Paquette.

00:46:01.000 Again, I don't read the science about someone's broken femur, but when the ortopedic surgeons come to me and they say that what they are dealing with to get someone's femur fixed is not adequate and they need X, Y and Z to help take care of patients with their broken femur, I defer to their expertise on a broken femur.

00:46:20.000 When people that specialize in transgender care tell me that they're having a hard time taking care of their patients with this 50 to 70 percent suicide rate and they need X, Y and Z as policy, then I defer to them because they're the ones that do patient care and I help them to get their patient care done. 0.98

00:46:35.000 It almost seems like you're intentionally staying away from these issues because I stay away from the science because I didn't do a residency in anything related to the science.

00:46:46.000 But thanks to Representative Paquette, the AMA kindly introduced the expert of their choice, Dr. Jesse Grecorian.

00:46:51.000 Their conversation was, as you might expect by now, an unmitigated disasterter for the AMA.

00:46:56.000 Dr. Krikorjan is a primary care physician at the University of Michigan.

00:46:59.000 According to the Daily Wire Zone investigation, Dr. Krikorjan is transgender herself.

00:47:03.000 Her name was Anne.

00:47:04.000 She began going by Jesse and taking male hormones as recently as her bachelor career at Swarthmore College, only a few years before applying for medical school.

00:47:12.000 Dr. Krikorjan is a family medicine PCP.

00:47:14.000 That's the kind of doctor that you go to for an annual checkup or to get your child a physical to enroll in a competitive sport.

00:47:19.000 My wife is a doctor.

00:47:20.000 She also happens to be a family physician.

00:47:22.000 Neither she nor Dr. Krikorjan possess expert knowledge about transgenderism or gender identity disorder or the use of puberty blockers in children, let's talk adults.

00:47:30.000 And yet, this was the person the AMA used as their expert.

00:47:33.000 It makes perfect sense that the AMA's handpicked expert on trans medicine is one, trans herself, two, has no specialized training in psychology, endocrinology or plastic surgery, and three, seems to have been in practice for like three to five years.

00:47:46.000 The absurdity abounds.

00:47:47.000 Here's Representative Paquette asking Dr. Krecorian about how cross-sex hormones can cause infertility.

00:47:52.000 Watch the tap dance from Dr. Krecorian.

00:47:56.000 How long does it take to become infertile for an adult to be on estrogen to become infertile from your vantage point?

00:48:04.000 We don't know for sure.

00:48:05.000 It varies person to person.

00:48:08.000 When I am counseling people on starting test or starting estrogen, sorry.

00:48:13.000 It's a different story for testosterone.

00:48:14.000 When it comes to starting estrogen, I advise them that this will decrease their fertility.

00:48:19.000 You don't want to count on it as a birth control because it's not one hundred percent guaranteed that it will make you infertile.

00:48:26.000 But that you also, you want to plan that this is going to make you infertile.

00:48:30.000 If your life plan involves genetic children, go ahead, bank sperm before you go into this.

00:48:38.000 I have started a lot of adults on estrogen.

00:48:42.000 I have had only one or two who banked sperm.

00:48:48.000 And part of that is because, honestly, sperm is not that hard to come by.

00:48:53.000 You can buy it.

00:48:54.000 You can access it.

00:48:55.000 If you have a partner who can carry your pregnancy, you guys can make it happen. 1.00

00:49:00.000 Oh my goodness.

00:49:02.000 Sperm is not that hard to come by.

00:49:06.000 Well, doctor Krishcorian has no solid answer.

00:49:08.000 If anything, Krishcorian seems to admit that infertility is a problem and recommends that patients bank their sperm or buy some sperm from Miranda later on.

00:49:15.000 Meanwhile, yesterday we heard the MA outright dismiss Dr. Haymes' concerns about reversibility and infertility.

00:49:22.000 No other medical field works like this, by the way.

00:49:24.000 You don't go from being a primary care physician to an expert in brain cancer just because you personally had a brain tumor.

00:49:28.000 You don't become more qualified And as an anesthesiologist because you might enjoy taking sedatives, but suddenly with gender affirming care, the most prominent expert the AMA could offer is a trans person who is a family physician.

00:49:40.000 That is not expertise.

00:49:41.000 That is projection.

00:49:42.000 Dr. Krecorian is not the only trans expert with this conflict of interest.

00:49:46.000 Also, Dr. Krecorian sent representative Paquette a study written by Dr. Johanna Olson Kennedy, a California pediatric and adolescent medicine specialist who is married to, wait for it, a trans spouse.

00:49:57.000 Dr. Olson Kennedy is well known for burying a study on puberty blockers after she realized it didn't produce the results that she actually wanted.

00:50:03.000 Dr. Olson Kennedy was also infamously caught on video explaining, it's not a huge deal if you cut a girl's breasts off because she can go to and get breast implants later on if she wants. 1.00

00:50:11.000 You know, it's kind of like a mister Potato head. 0.82

00:50:13.000 Just take the body parts on, take them off, the whole deal.

00:50:17.000 But so what we do know is that adolescents actually have the capacity to make a reasonable, logical decision.

00:50:24.000 And here's the other thing about chest surgery.

00:50:27.000 If you want breasts at a later point in your life, you can go and get them. 0.76

00:50:33.000 Well, Dr. Krecorian clearly shares Dr. Olson Kennedy's belief that children can make these kinds of major decisions.

00:50:38.000 In fact, Dr. Krecorian says that children have a stable sense of gender identity at the age of three.

00:50:46.000 Developmentally, kids generally have a pretty stable sense of gender identity starting around the age of three.

00:50:53.000 They may not tell us unless we ask, but it's generally there around that age, just developmentally, that's when that comes in.

00:51:00.000 And as I said, with the folks who are really young, with the elementary school age kids, we're not doing any medical interventions.

00:51:07.000 We're just talking with the family.

00:51:10.000 We're making sure that mental health is okay.

00:51:13.000 If it's relevant, then we'll have them talk to a therapist or do some family therapy so they have a safe space to discuss what they're feeling.

00:51:24.000 You allow them to make choices.

00:51:26.000 Often, when I'm talking to kids who are thinking about starting these hormones, often they do talk about, like, well, I can always, you know, adopt if I decide I want a child.

00:51:39.000 Which is true, although it's a little more complicated than just saying, Oh yes, I want to do this.

00:51:46.000 But we make sure that they've considered it.

00:51:49.000 We've made sure that they've had the conversation.

00:51:52.000 Well, folks, in other words, according to Dr. Krecorian, cross sex hormones don't sterilize kids, but even if they do, it's okay because these kids can plan to adopt or buy some other's sperm one day.

00:52:01.000 That, of course, is insane and dystopian.

00:52:04.000 My kids don't even know what they want for lunch, let alone make a decision about adopting a child of their own in 20 years.

00:52:09.000 Dr. Krikorian does not rely on any objective data or research.

00:52:12.000 Instead, Krikorian explicitly rejects representative Paquette's studies, including the CAS review in the UK, the Health and Human Services report here in the U.S., both of which show that gender-affirming care is experimental and often dangerous.

00:52:22.000 Here's what that looked like.

00:52:25.000 Why don't you want to get into the HHS report, especially because that focuses on, you know, especially surgeries and other things too.

00:52:31.000 But why not get into the HHS report?

00:52:37.000 Because I think that it's very politically motivated and I don't think think it's sound science.

00:52:42.000 Okay, so when we talk about the turbine, you know, table, and I guess, have you have you've read through the HHS report?

00:52:50.000 I haven't read it in its entirety.

00:52:51.000 I read sections of it and I read the executive overview.

00:52:55.000 Because it relates exactly to your field and what's going on.

00:52:58.000 And so, it's pretty wild to call the HHS report politically motivated and then admit you haven't actually read the report.

00:53:06.000 This is the level of rigor the AMA's hand pick expert is capable of.

00:53:09.000 So here's for the record, the HHS report's top line conclusions one, the gender affirming model of care includes irreversible endocrine and surgical interventions on minors with no physical pathology.

00:53:19.000 too.

00:53:19.000 These interventions carry risk of significant harm, including infertility, sterility, sexual dysfunction, impaired bone density accrual, adverse cognitive impacts, cardiovascular diseases, metabolic disorders, psychiatric disorders, surgical complications, and regret.

00:53:32.000 Meanwhile, systematic reviews of the evidence have revealed deep uncertainty about the supposed benefits of these interventions.

00:53:37.000 Meanwhile, again, Dr. Krekorian is the AMA's foremost expert on trans medicine and has no answer to any of this at all.

00:53:44.000 Krekorian parents the same talking points as Dr. Bobby McCamala, citing a low regret rate erroneously making false statements about the reversibility of puberty blockers.

00:53:53.000 The bone density aspects of puberty blocking drugs.

00:53:56.000 How it's off-label FDA stuff like that.

00:53:59.000 Like, Kids are taking these things and it's like there are ramifications for taking these drugs, right?

00:54:06.000 Every drug has side effects, for sure.

00:54:08.000 Puberty blockers are very reversible.

00:54:12.000 So you stop them, you go through puberty.

00:54:16.000 There is when you're going through puberty, you have an increase in bone density.

00:54:22.000 So when you're on a puberty blocker, you don't have that increase.

00:54:26.000 But they do catch up as soon as they go through puberty, whether that is by stopping the puberty blocker and going through whatever puberty their body would have normally gone through, or whether that's by starting cross sex hormones.

00:54:39.000 They do catch back on bone density.

00:54:43.000 Now in the HHS report, a systematic review found that when puberty blockers are followed by cross sex hormones, which happens over ninety percent of the time in studies, a critical developmental window for bone density accrual during adolescence could be missed or shortened.

00:54:54.000 The HHS report notes no studies have followed patients into middle age or late adulthood.

00:54:59.000 Precorian's omission or ignorance of that information is either fraud, a pathetic degree of malice or gross negligence.

00:55:04.000 At this point, there is no higher authority to whom to speak about this.

00:55:07.000 The AMA's facade has collapsed between their arrogant president, Dr. Bobby Makamala, and their top trans expert who is literally transgender herself. 0.78

00:55:14.000 If any of these people actually cared for the well being of children, they would reach the point of being transgender. 1.00

00:55:16.000 They would read every single study that suggested these procedures might cause harm cover to cover.

00:55:20.000 They'd come prepared to meetings like this one with detailed arguments for why studies like the CAST review, the HHS report and the bombshell of the WPAT files were all wrong.

00:55:28.000 But the AMA, their handpicked expert, didn't do any of that.

00:55:31.000 Instead, they mocked the side effects, dismissed the data, shut down conversation by writing off all concern as a political intrusion.

00:55:37.000 At this point, the AMA is indistinguishable from other activist left-wing organizations like the Human Rights Campaign or the ACLU.

00:55:43.000 They don't engage in science.

00:55:44.000 They're not interested in protecting patients.

00:55:46.000 They're a lobbying arm for quacks and a mouthpiece for leftists who prey on children. 1.00

00:55:51.000 Well, joining us online to discuss this unbelievable story is representative Brad Pik Paquette, he of course is a state representative elected to the Michigan State House in 2018.

00:55:58.000 He was the one who facilitated the conversation between the AMA and Dr. Haim.

00:56:03.000 Representative Paquette, thanks so much for taking the time.

00:56:06.000 Hey, thank you for having me and putting a spotlight on this.

00:56:10.000 So first of all, what drove you to facilitate this conversation in the first place?

00:56:16.000 Well, I'm a teacher and I got to say that it's an exceptional experience to be able to watch, you know, a young person grow up.

00:56:22.000 You feel old, but when your young people in ninth grade and middle school become adults, it's quite the thing to see.

00:56:30.000 And so I've been really deliberating on this since about 10 years ago, had a student in ninth grade who wanted to change her name in class.

00:56:37.000 And so now in elected office, I become very convicted because the more you learn about gender theory in particular and how embedded it's become in our sex ed curriculums and in our culture, it becomes very unnerving that young people are being taught that they can be born wrong.

00:56:54.000 And that's contrary to me as a teacher.

00:56:57.000 What I believe is that young people are marvelously made and wonderfully made and that they need to be able to accept what they've been given and utilize their talents accordingly.

00:57:08.000 And so that's really what has driven me.

00:57:10.000 And then the more that I've pushed on this and the more that I've inquired, the more people said, well, we trust these experts, you know, trust the science.

00:57:17.000 And I was elected in 2019 and 2020 came along and I raised an eyebrow around the trust the experts phrase.

00:57:26.000 And so I started really digging into this and came to find that a lot of people opposed my bills for no good reason.

00:57:32.000 And a lot of folks said, well, you're not a doctor, Brad, even though I talked to a lot of them.

00:57:38.000 well the ama supports this and so i went to the ama and started to talk to their experts and came to find that they have no idea what they're talking about So, you know, what was the most shocking point in the conversation?

00:57:53.000 We played a bunch of parts of the conversation that took place between Dr. Haim and Bobby Makamala, who is the head of the AMA.

00:57:59.000 What was the thing that shocked you the most about that conversation?

00:58:03.000 Yeah.

00:58:03.000 So with the president of the AMA, you think that they would be really knowledgeable on, you know, evidence-based medicine, especially these things that they tout.

00:58:10.000 And Bobby was just completely far removed from any type of real understanding of evidence-based medicine in this regard.

00:58:20.000 And so the way that he demeaned Dr. Haim and the way that he pushed back on him and, you know, put his hand up and did this really, really kind of inflamed my sense there when he just had those talking points that I've heard so many times.

00:58:34.000 I go to all my LGBTQ plus forums.

00:58:36.000 I go and talk to any person I can about this.

00:58:38.000 And he was one of the least informed individuals on this matter, which was just astounding.

00:58:43.000 It was just unreal to see.

00:58:47.000 So what do you plan on doing in the state of Michigan?

00:58:50.000 Obviously, you're in the state legislature over there.

00:58:52.000 What do you think the federal government ought to do?

00:58:54.000 What's a corrective to what the AMA has been doing with regard to its propagandizing on behalf of the fraud that is trans quote unquote medicine? 0.96

00:59:03.000 Yeah, so I think that as public opinion.

00:59:06.000 begins to delve into this, this is what is most important.

00:59:09.000 This is why I chose to be on oversight committees this term because I've got a Democrat controlled Senate and Governor Whitmer and my bills stopping these things aren't going to move there.

00:59:18.000 The Democrats, my neighbors across the aisle, don't want to touch this with a ten foot pole.

00:59:22.000 They won't even let me go into their forums to advocate for my bills.

00:59:26.000 They say, you know, these, these sayings that I make people uncomfortable, love over hate.

00:59:31.000 Love tells people the truth.

00:59:32.000 And I'm not even able to make my case to my colleagues.

00:59:35.000 Some are sympathetic behind the scenes.

00:59:37.000 So, you know, the federal mandates, the EOs, what Trump is doing is phenomenal, but after Skermetti, this comes down to the states and we have to make our case.

00:59:44.000 And how can we make our case if people won't entertain and talk about these situations in real time?

00:59:50.000 I asked my hospitals, well, how many kids are on puberty blockers?

00:59:54.000 What is the ballpark estimate?

00:59:56.000 They won't even tell me anything.

00:59:58.000 So we've got subpoenas geared up just to gather that information.

01:00:00.000 They'll tell me how many knee replacements that they're doing, but they won't tell me how many kids or even an increase as to how many kids are wanting puberty blockers being prescribed here in the state of Michigan.

01:00:11.000 So we're in a predicament and it comes down to exposing that these people have no understanding., no grounding in evidence-based medicine.

01:00:17.000 So that's what we're trying to do this term.

01:00:21.000 Well, that is Representative Brad Paquette.

01:00:23.000 He is in the Michigan State House doing an amazing job on this particular issue, among others.

01:00:27.000 Representative Paquette, thank you so much for the time and folks, the full video and petition, you can see it all at amaexposed dot com dot That's amaexposed dot com dot Thanks.

01:00:37.000 Thank you.

01:00:38.000 Unless the AMA is held to account before licensing boards, ethics committees, maybe even Congress, they need to testify.

01:00:44.000 The trust of millions of Americans has been lost.

01:00:46.000 Not only has unthinkable harm already been inflicted on a ton of kids, but physicians in this country des deserve much better representation than what the AMA is providing.

01:00:54.000 Every shred of institutional trust we have left in this country needs to be cherished and preserved at this point.

01:00:59.000 But when some institutions are shown to be corrupt through and through, as we've seen with the AMA this week, they cannot continue on as they are without some serious reform.

01:01:06.000 Sign the petition over amaexposed dot com comma so we can stop the left from transing the kids for good and restore America's trust in our health care providers.

01:01:13.000 Alright, folks, the show is continuing for our members right now.

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