The Ben Shapiro Show - BREAKING: Trump Unleashes GROUNDBREAKING Gaza Plan

00:00:00.000 President Trump presents a groundbreaking path forward in the Gaza Strip.

00:00:04.000 It is fascinating.

00:00:04.000 We'll go through all of the deals.

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00:02:07.000 So yesterday, President Trump totally broke open the war in Gaza and perhaps put together a workable peace plan.

00:02:14.000 Now the President of the United States has received inordinate hatred for actually being good at foreign policy.

00:02:20.000 Perhaps the best thing about President Trump's first term was his foreign policy.

00:02:23.000 President Trump has always been heterodox in his foreign policy views, and that heterodoxy has actually served him quite well, particularly in the Middle East.

00:02:30.000 He didn't get the credit he deserved over the Abraham Accords.

00:02:33.000 He has not received the credit that he deserves for his continuing support of Israel in the face of genocidal hatred and terrorism from Hamas. 0.63

00:02:42.000 And he has somehow drawn a fascinating path to peace in the Gaza Strip.

00:02:48.000 Yesterday, he and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu met for a long time before actually going out and doing a full press conference where they unveiled President Trump's peace plan, which has been signed on to by Israel, by the United States, by Qatar, by all of the regional players, and by the Europeans, which is an amazing achievement for the president.

00:03:06.000 Now, let's be clear.

00:03:07.000 Hamas has not accepted this deal yet, but this totally changes the game.

00:03:10.000 Why?

00:03:11.000 Well, because if everybody is on the same page but Hamas, that means that Hamas is totally isolated.

00:03:16.000 And Hamas has relied on the kindness of strangers. 0.50

00:03:19.000 Hamas has relied for this entire war. 0.92

00:03:22.000 On the PR of having Qatar on its side, of having other countries in the Middle East on its side, of having the Europeans on its side.

00:03:28.000 I mean, just a week ago, we were talking about how the Europeans were moving steadily and not so gradually towards declaring a Palestinian state in the aftermath of the worst terror attack on Israel in its history and the worst attack on Jews since World War II.

00:03:42.000 That is how badly things were going for Israel in sort of PR war.

00:03:46.000 And that was because, of course, there is a strong drive among the suicidally empathetic, as the philosopher Gad Saad puts it in Europe to side with the people who wish to destroy Western civilization.

00:03:57.000 But President Trump has now done something pretty incredible.

00:04:00.000 He has put together a deal here that is workable, a deal that now has signed off from the Israelis and from everybody else in the region, and even the Europeans are signed off on it.

00:04:11.000 So I want to go through the deal here because whenever you hear that a deal has been signed off on by everybody, the inclination is to say that it is a weak deal.

00:04:18.000 That's just the reality.

00:04:20.000 And indeed, when you read the deal, you will find points where certainly quibbles would be necessary.

00:04:25.000 But overall, what President Trump has done here is he has achieved the strategic goals of the West.

00:04:31.000 He has allowed Israel to achieve its strategic goals in Gaza if Hamas were to accept this deal while allowing for a path forward. 0.76

00:04:38.000 So what exactly is the deal?

00:04:40.000 We're gonna go through it in detail and then we'll get to the press conference.

00:04:43.000 So the White House's plan is a 20-point plan.

00:04:46.000 First, Gaza will be a de-radicalized terror-free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbors.

00:04:50.000 Now, that's more of a goal than it is an actual plan.

00:04:53.000 Whether that goal is achieved depends on whether the rest of the plan is actually achieved.

00:04:57.000 Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza who have suffered more than enough.

00:05:01.000 Again, more of a goal than a plan.

00:05:02.000 If both sides agree to this proposal, the war will immediately end.

00:05:05.000 Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed upon lines, prepare for a hostage release.

00:05:09.000 During this time, all military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardment, will be suspended, and battle lines will remain frozen until conditions are met for the complete staged withdrawal.

00:05:18.000 Within 72 hours of Israel publicly accepting this agreement, all hostages alive and deceased will be returned.

00:05:22.000 So that is to prevent Hamas from basically dragging out this process. 0.57

00:05:26.000 If we get to 73 hours and Hamas is not handed over, the live 20 hostages and the dead remaining 28 hostages.

00:05:33.000 If that happens, then Israel will have every right and ability to go back in. 0.98

00:05:37.000 Here is what a map looks like of what the lines of battle would look like if indeed this were to happen.

00:05:43.000 So if Hamas were to accept, then essentially you have a small sliver of the Gaza Strip that is currently outside of the IDF's line of control.

00:05:55.000 Even that is actually an old map.

00:05:57.000 Israel's been moving so fast in Gaza City. 0.69

00:06:00.000 They've essentially taken nearly all of Gaza City at this point.

00:06:02.000 This is one of the reasons why it is possible that Hamas may accept a deal because they don't exactly have a lot of leverage.

00:06:08.000 The IDF has been doing extraordinary work in Gaza City with pretty much zero casualties at this point.

00:06:15.000 The IDF has been capable of moving out of Gaza City more than 800,000 Gazan civilians who are trying to run roadblocks that have been put up by Hamas who are shooting the civilians to prevent them from escape.

00:06:26.000 In any case, on this map, as you can see, the blue line is a sort of rough idea of Israeli current control.

00:06:33.000 Everything outside the blue line up to the black line is Israeli line of control. 0.91

00:06:37.000 So very sliver, very small sliver of the Gaza Strip that is quote unquote outside the IDF's current line of control.

00:06:43.000 And then there's a yellow line.

00:06:44.000 That line shows where Israel would pull back to if the hostages were released, which would still leave the IDF in effective control of probably two-thirds to three quarters of the Gaza Strip.

00:06:56.000 And of course, they would still have some level of security oversight in the rest of the Gaza Strip as well.

00:07:00.000 They're not simply going to pull back to that line and do nothing, you would assume.

00:07:04.000 This is one of the mistakes that Israel made in the aftermath of their 2005 pull-out from the Gaza Strip.

00:07:08.000 They didn't just pull out completely.

00:07:10.000 They also essentially cut their own intelligence tether, which was a massive mistake, which is why October 7th happened.

00:07:15.000 That's something that Israel has not done in the so-called West Bank, Judea, and Samaria, where the IDF is constantly operational, at least in intelligence terms, even in areas that are governed by the Palestinian authority titularly.

00:07:27.000 Okay, then there's a red line.

00:07:29.000 That red line shows the second withdrawal.

00:07:30.000 That is when the sort of interim government is mobilized per standard set in President Trump's plan.

00:07:37.000 And again, Israel would still retain a thick outline of the Gaza Strip in terms of security control control.

00:07:42.000 And then finally, there would be the third withdrawal.

00:07:44.000 So if you get to the final, final, final endpoint of this conflict, and suddenly you have a workable government in the Gaza Strip, Israel would still retain a buffer zone at the edge of the Gaza Strip, because of course they need that buffer zone, as they found out on October 7th. 0.79

00:07:57.000 One of the big problems for Israelis is that the distance from terror centers in the Gaza Strip to actual civilian cities in Israel is minutes.

00:08:07.000 This was the biggest problem on October 7th, is that once the fence was cut, you're talking about a hundred yards from that fence to actual Israeli cities, Israeli towns, Moshavim that were overrun and destroyed, everybody killed.

00:08:21.000 So Israel is going to have to retain some sort of security control over that buffer zone.

00:08:25.000 Okay, so that's what the map looks like if all of the conditions are fulfilled.

00:08:28.000 Coming up, more on the Gaza plan from the Trump administration and the press conference between President Trump and Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu.

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00:10:39.000 Once all hostages are released, according to the Trump plan, Israel released 250 life sentence prisoners plus a hundred and one thousand seven hundred Gazans who are detained after October 7th, including all women and children detained in that context.

00:10:52.000 Now, let's be clear about this.

00:10:53.000 That sort of language, women and children, Israel isn't picking up five-year-olds. 0.99

00:10:56.000 When they say children, they mean minors.

00:10:58.000 Hamas continuously and routinely uses minors in battle.

00:11:01.000 This is true all over the Islamic world.

00:11:03.000 This kind of American division, Western division between people under the age of 18 and terrorists, is a false division in many parts of the world where you have 12-year-olds with AKs.

00:11:13.000 I mean, it's an unfortunate reality.

00:11:14.000 I wish it weren't the case.

00:11:16.000 It happens to be the reality.

00:11:17.000 For every Israeli hostages whose remains are released, Israel will release the remains of 15 deceased Gazans.

00:11:22.000 Now, again, this sort of math makes me insane.

00:11:25.000 It has always made me insane. 0.97

00:11:26.000 It is ridiculous for any Western country to trade live terrorists for hostages.

00:11:31.000 This is the mistake that Israel made, going all the way back to the Gilad Shalit deal, in which they exchanged one IDF soldier.

00:11:36.000 They got back one IDF soldier, and in return, they released 1,000 Palestinian terrorists, including Yah Sinwar, the architect of October 7th. 0.88

00:11:44.000 But let's be real about this.

00:11:45.000 There is support on the ground in Israel for this sort of a deal.

00:11:49.000 Until Israel changes fundamentally it's thinking about how hostage taking works.

00:11:53.000 This is going to be the kind of deal that Israelis are willing to cut. 0.99

00:11:56.000 Upon acceptance of the agreement, full aid will immediately be sent into the strip.

00:11:59.000 At a minimum, eight quantities will be consistent with what was included in the January 19th, 2025 agreement regarding humanitarian aid, including rehabilitation of infrastructure, rehabilitation of hospitals and bakeries, and entry of necessary equipment to remove rubble and open roads.

00:12:12.000 Now, again, this provision to me, that's a big give.

00:12:17.000 The reason it's a big give is because it's unsafe.

00:12:19.000 Okay, let's be clear.

00:12:20.000 When you talk about restoration of full aid, including infrastructure help before the actual restoration of security control, that is a risk.

00:12:29.000 There's no question that's a risk.

00:12:30.000 It's one of the big problems with aid in the first place.

00:12:33.000 There's no aid cutoff before October 7th.

00:12:36.000 There's plenty of food and material going into Gaza.

00:12:38.000 All of it was used by Hamas to create the world's greatest terror center. 0.98

00:12:42.000 Entry and distribution of aid according to the plan will proceed without interference from the two parties through the United Nations and its agencies and the Red Crescent, in addition to any other international institutions not associated in any matter manner with either party.

00:12:55.000 Opening the Rafa Crossing in both directions will be subject to the same mechanism implemented under the January 19th, 2025 agreement.

00:13:01.000 Again, this should be a sticking point.

00:13:02.000 Israel is giving a lot on this.

00:13:04.000 The United Nations has been and will continue to be a tool for terrorism.

00:13:07.000 It always has been.

00:13:10.000 So the fact that the aid distribution would happen thanks to the UN should be of little comfort to the Israelis. 0.70

00:13:16.000 So the idea that Israel isn't giving anything in this deal is silly.

00:13:18.000 Of course, Israel is. 0.86

00:13:19.000 Gaza, under the plan, will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of a technocrat, apolitical Palestinian committee responsible for delivering the day-to-day running of public services and municipalities for the people In Gaza.

00:13:30.000 This committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts with oversight and supervision by a new international transitional body, the Board of Peace, which will be headed and chaired by the president, with other members and heads of state to be announced, including former Prime Minister Tony Blair.

00:13:43.000 Again, this is sort of Israel's guarantee against the possibility that Hamas immediately reconstitutes and that the aid that flows in is somehow handed over directly to a reconstituted Hamas by another name.

00:13:53.000 The idea would be that there is some sort of Western chaired, quote unquote, Palestinian body of peace, the Board of Peace.

00:14:02.000 Now, in reality, it'll have to be run by Tony Blair with input from the United States, because the reality, unfortunately, is that there are not a whole hell of a lot of quote unquote Palestinian moderates on the ground.

00:14:13.000 And this brings us to the question of the Palestinian Authority.

00:14:16.000 According to the Trump plan, this body will set the framework and handle the funding for redevelopment of Gaza until such time as the Palestinian Authority has completed its reform program, as outlined in various proposals, including President Trump's peace plan in 2020 and the Saudi French proposal and can securely and effectively take back control of Gaza.

00:14:32.000 This body will call on best international standards to create moderate and efficient governance that serves the people of Gaza and is conducive to attracting investment.

00:14:39.000 Now, let's be real about that.

00:14:40.000 It's never going to happen. 0.98

00:14:41.000 The Palestinian Authority is corrupt top to bottom. 0.98

00:14:44.000 Everybody, Arab and Jew in the region knows this. 0.95

00:14:47.000 This is this is not a secret.

00:14:49.000 The reality is the Palestinian Authority is wildly unpopular in Judea and Samaria thanks to its incredible levels of corruption, thanks to the fact its leadership bilks the population and aid agencies out of literally billions of dollars. 0.51

00:15:01.000 The PA is never going to end up governing Gaza.

00:15:03.000 They can't even govern cities in the West in the so-called West Bank, Nablus and Janine and Havron.

00:15:08.000 They're not going to govern any of these areas.

00:15:10.000 So this is a pipe dream.

00:15:12.000 Presumably that pipe dream is put out there for the pleasure of various Arab nations who are signing on to President Trump's agreement here. 0.92

00:15:19.000 The plan continues.

00:15:20.000 The Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energize Gaza will be created by convening a panel of experts who have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracle cities in the Middle East.

00:15:27.000 Many thoughtful investment proposals and exciting development ideas have been crafted by well-meaning international groups and will be considered to synthesize the security and governance frameworks to attract and facilitate these investments that will create jobs, opportunity, and hope for a future Gaza.

00:15:41.000 So, again, what they're talking about here, presumably, is money flowing in from Qatar from UAE, from Saudi Arabia.

00:15:48.000 You would imagine American investment as well here, a special economic zone under the plan, will be established with preferred tariff and access rates to be negotiated with participating countries.

00:15:56.000 No one will be forced to leave Gaza.

00:15:58.000 Those who wish to leave will be free to do so and free to return.

00:16:01.000 We'll encourage people to stay and offer them the opportunity to build a better Gaza.

00:16:05.000 Now, again, in reality, all of this is going to be dependent on decent governance.

00:16:10.000 Unfortunately, it is just a fact that a vast majority of Palestinians support terrorism. 0.98

00:16:15.000 There's zero literally zero evidence that Palestinians overall do not support terrorism.

00:16:20.000 Doesn't mean every single Palestinian, every poll statistic literally ever taken, shows a vast bulk of Palestinian Arabs supporting terrorism against Jews and the destruction of the state of Israel.

00:16:30.000 So this has created an intractable problem.

00:16:32.000 That intractable problem can be solved by good governance.

00:16:36.000 If, in fact, there is an area that is governed by a decent Board of Peace and safety and security is provided and jobs, then the goal is hopefully that people will become significantly more quiescent about their desire to destroy the Jews in the State of Israel and might be satisfied with, you know, economically prosperous lives. 0.80

00:16:55.000 That remains to be seen.

00:16:57.000 Suffice it to say, there is going to be no forced population movement outside of the Gaza Strip, and the provision that is meant to allow people to leave who want to leave and then make them free to return if they wish to return, that means they can return to the Gaza Strip. 0.54

00:17:12.000 And treats the Gaza Strip as a home for a lot of these people, as opposed to the lie that's been told, which is that Haifa is their home, or Tel Aviv is their home.

00:17:22.000 According to the plan, Hamas and other factions agree not to have any role in the governance of Gaza directly, indirectly, or in any form.

00:17:29.000 All military terror and offensive infrastructure, include including tunnels and weapon production facilities, will be destroyed and not rebuilt.

00:17:35.000 There will be a process of demilitarization of Gaza under the supervision of independent monitors, which will include placing weapons permanently beyond use through an agreed process of decommissioning, supported by an internationally funded buyback and reintegration program, all verified by independent monitors.

00:17:48.000 New Gaza will be fully committed to building a prosperous economy and peaceful coexistence with their neighbors.

00:17:54.000 A guarantee will also be provided by regional partners to ensure that Hamas and factions comply with their obligations and that new Gaza poses no threat to its neighbors or people.

00:18:03.000 Now, again, this raises the question as to why Hamas would accept the deal.

00:18:07.000 If effectively they're going to have no governance power on the Gaza Strip, why would they give up the hostages? 0.78

00:18:11.000 And the answer is because if they literally have no hope, if it turns out that even their terror masters in Qatar, and let's be clear, Qatar plays both sides of the table, they always have, Qatar could have put pressure on Hamas to give up the hostages October 8th. 0.69

00:18:26.000 They could have.

00:18:26.000 Qatar did not do that.

00:18:28.000 Instead, Qatar sponsored Hamas, Qatar played defense for Hamas.

00:18:31.000 Qatar played both sides of the table as they are apt to do.

00:18:34.000 Well, now that is over.

00:18:35.000 Qatar apparently has joined in on the process of isolating Hamas.

00:18:39.000 That is the only reason why this has happened, and is worthwhile noting.

00:18:42.000 The reason that Qatar did that, at least in part, is because they're quite concerned that if this war continues, that Israel, which, as we'll see in a moment, committed not to attacking Hamas on Qatari territory, at some point, Israel, if the hostages continue to be held, will simply say, you know what?

00:18:58.000 Not worth it anymore.

00:18:59.000 And they go into Qatar and they kill Hamas members in Qatar.

00:19:02.000 So Qatar does not wish to be in the crossfire at this point.

00:19:06.000 So that unsuccessful strike that Israel launched directly into Qatar to kill Hamas's leadership, it may have been tactically unsuccessful, but it was strategically successful in putting pressure on the Qataris to actually join in on the international consortium dedicated to ending Hamas rule over the Gaza Strip.

00:19:22.000 And that'd be the only reason why Hamas would give up the ghost here. 0.71

00:19:25.000 The plan continues.

00:19:26.000 The United States will work with Arab and international partners to develop a temporary international stabilization force to immediately deploy in Gaza.

00:19:33.000 The ISF will train and provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza and will consult with Jordan and Egypt, who have extensive experience in this field.

00:19:41.000 The ISF will work with Israel and Egypt to help secure border areas along with newly trained Palestinian police forces.

00:19:47.000 A deconfliction mechanism will be agreed upon by all of the parties.

00:19:50.000 Now, again, what's important there is that this international stabilization force will not be a non-transparent force.

00:19:57.000 It will have coordination, including Israel.

00:19:58.000 Israel is simply not going to give up all eyes on the ground and trust that the Egyptians and Jordanians, all of whom have been acting, by the way, in tacit consultation with Hamas throughout this conflict, Israel isn't going to give up any capacity to actually police this area given what happened on October 7th.

00:20:16.000 As part of the plan, Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza.

00:20:19.000 As the ISF establishes control and stability, the IDF will draw based on standards, milestones, and time frames linked to demilitarization that will be agreed upon between the IDF, ISF, the guarantors in the United States, with the objective of a secure Gaza that no longer poses a threat to Israel, Egypt, or its citizens, practically, the IDF will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the ISF.

00:20:39.000 Now, again, that's very gradual because Israel isn't going to give over that territory until they feel safe.

00:20:44.000 Now, if Hamas delays or rejects this proposal, the above, including the scaled up aid operation, will proceed in the terror-free areas handed over from the IDF to the ISF.

00:20:53.000 So, in other words, this plan is going into place, whether or not Hamas agrees.

00:20:56.000 So the areas that Israel has already cleared will end up being turned over to the ISF anyway.

00:21:02.000 It will end up being held by this international consortium.

00:21:06.000 So the only question is whether the areas that are quote unquote outside Israeli control, namely those areas on the coast along the Mediterranean, whether Hamas gives up the ghost in those areas.

00:21:15.000 But every place else this plan is happening, whether Hamas likes it or not.

00:21:18.000 An interfaith dialogue process will be established based on the values of tolerance and peaceful coexistence to try and change the mindsets and narratives of Palestinians and Israelis by emphasizing the benefits that can be derived from peace.

00:21:28.000 Okay, good luck with that.

00:21:29.000 And finally, while Gaza redeployed redevelopment advances and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognize as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.

00:21:41.000 Now notice what that isn't.

00:21:42.000 That is not a recognition of a Palestinian state.

00:21:44.000 That is not even a recognition of a real pathway toward a Palestinian state.

00:21:49.000 It is a recognition that if gigantic changes happen on the ground and the Palestinian Authority somehow moderates and somehow does all of the reform, and that if all of these hurdles are jumped, then maybe at some point there's a pathway to a Palestinian state.

00:22:04.000 Now, again, good luck with that.

00:22:06.000 What this doesn't do is say there must be a Palestinian state in order for there to be a settlement in Gaza.

00:22:11.000 That obviously is untrue.

00:22:13.000 And the Trump administration is making no bones about that, and now neither is the international community. 0.98

00:22:17.000 They are not saying that is a sort of prerequisite to a peace agreement in Gaza or to an end to the war, there has to be a Palestinian state, which is something very different than Emmanuel Macron, fool, Kira Starmer, fool, and the Spanish government, fools, Have been saying. 0.94

00:22:33.000 So, again, overall, it's a plan where there's some give and there's some take, but this is the best plan that has been presented or the best plan likely to be presented. 0.93

00:22:43.000 Now, before the actual pressure happened between President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday, there was a meeting between Trump and Netanyahu in the Oval.

00:22:53.000 And during that meeting, Prime Minister Netanyahu called up the Prime Minister of Qatar and essentially apologized for the strike inside Qatar, according to the White House's readout.

00:23:05.000 The president expressed his desire to put Israel-Qatar relations on a positive track after years of mutual grievances and miscommunications.

00:23:12.000 As a first step, Prime Minister Netanyahu expressed his deep regret that Israelis that Israel's missile strikes against Hamas targets in Qatar unintentionally killed a Qatari serviceman.

00:23:20.000 He further expressed regret that in targeting Hamas leadership during hostage negotiations, Israel violated Qatari sovereignty and affirmed that Israel will not conduct such an attack again in the future.

00:23:28.000 Now, again, do I like this on a moral level?

00:23:29.000 I do not.

00:23:30.000 Qatar has literally to this day never condemned October 7th.

00:23:35.000 So, and of course, they've been hostile, they've been holding all of the Hamas leadership there. 0.82

00:23:39.000 They've been paying them lots of money, they've been keeping them in five-star hotels.

00:23:42.000 They've funded Hamas to the tune of billions of dollars.

00:23:44.000 It's an ugly thing that Netanyahu had to do on a political and moral level here.

00:23:49.000 But if that's the precondition to get to the agreement, that is what it is.

00:23:53.000 And getting Qatar on board to pressure Hamas apparently required this as some sort of prerequisite.

00:23:59.000 Prime Minister Alfani welcomed these assurances, emphasizing Qatar's readiness to contribute meaningfully to regionally secure and stable and stable negotiations.

00:24:08.000 And Prime Minister Netanyahu agreed to the same.

00:24:10.000 Now it's a little bit different than the readout from the Prime Minister of Israel.

00:24:13.000 Apparently, he said, quote, Netanyahu said this to the Prime Minister of Qatar.

00:24:19.000 I want you to know that Israel regrets that one of your citizens was killed in our strike.

00:24:22.000 I want to assure you that Israel was targeting Hamas, not Qataris. 0.57

00:24:24.000 I also want to assure you that Israel has no plan to violate your sovereignty again in the future, and I've made that commitment to the president.

00:24:30.000 I know your leadership has grievances against Israel, and Israel has grievances against Qatar, from support for the Muslim Brotherhood to how Israel is portrayed on Al Jazeera to support for anti-Israel sentiment on college campuses.

00:24:40.000 I welcome the president's idea to establish a trilateral group to address both our country's outstanding grievances.

00:24:45.000 Okay, so bottom line is all of that seems to be at least a little bit for show.

00:24:49.000 And what I mean by that is not that Israel is going to attack inside Qatar again, but if you're going to get everybody back on the same page, you have to say some pretty words about a trilateral commission and how everybody's going to get along in the future.

00:25:00.000 Now, let's be clear.

00:25:01.000 If Qatar continues to be a supporter of Hamas and into the future, it is no longer guaranteed that negotiations will take place, or negotiations break down, or Hamas continues to hold hostages, it's possible that that all goes sideways as well.

00:25:17.000 Okay, so all of this culminated yesterday in a major press conference between the president of the United States and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:25:24.000 President Trump, again, he's a transformative leader, particularly in the Middle East.

00:25:27.000 He seems to understand at a gut level what works in the Middle East, namely power.

00:25:32.000 One of the most asinine notions about the Middle East that's been pressed forward by the State Department for literally decades, by the Europeans for a long time, is that moral suasion is the language of the Middle East. 0.97

00:25:42.000 That is ridiculous. 0.94

00:25:43.000 Moral suasion has never been the language of the Middle East. 0.91

00:25:45.000 Moral suasion may be a language that is spoken in Europe.

00:25:48.000 It may be a language that's spoken in the halls of Congress or in the halls of the White House.

00:25:51.000 It is not a language that is spoken in the Middle East.

00:25:54.000 In the Middle East, it is all about power. 1.00

00:25:55.000 And that is something that President Trump innately understands.

00:25:58.000 His background in real estate negotiation here comes in extremely handy.

00:26:01.000 And so what he really understands here is that Israel is the military powerhouse of the region, that Israel is the technological powerhouse of the region, that an American-Israel Alliance, which has been highly beneficial to both sides.

00:26:13.000 The United States has gained massively in terms of its technological capability, particularly military capability through cooperation with Israel.

00:26:21.000 Its intelligence base in the Middle East is significantly stronger based on Israel.

00:26:25.000 Israel has been described as a sort of aircraft carrier that is land based in the Middle East.

00:26:30.000 America does not pay for bases in Israel.

00:26:33.000 America does pay Qatar a lot of money for its bases in Qatar and pays Saudi a lot of money for its bases in Saudi.

00:26:40.000 Qatar then contributes some of that money back, because of course that is a form of bribery that the Qataris try to use on Americans. 0.77

00:26:47.000 But America pays billions of dollars for bases in Japan and Germany and all over the world.

00:26:50.000 The United States does not pay billions of dollars for quote unquote a base in Israel.

00:26:55.000 So that mutually beneficial relationship between Israel and the United States has grown Into the Abraham Accords, bringing in UAE, bringing in Morocco, bringing in Bahrain, bringing in a bunch of countries in the Middle East, and that is only going to grow in the aftermath of this. 0.70

00:27:12.000 Already coming up, we'll get some more from this amazing press conference between President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over a possible peace plan in the Gaza Strip.

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00:29:29.000 That if you choose to work with successful countries, you are likely to be more successful.

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00:29:36.000 Here is the President talking about Middle Eastern relations.

00:29:39.000 History has shown us that those who have relations with Israel have thrived.

00:29:45.000 Well, those who have devoted resources and attention toward the destruction and even annihilation of Israel have languished.

00:29:54.000 They haven't done well.

00:29:59.000 That is a descriptively true situation that the countries that have worked hand in glove with Israel are doing better.

00:30:04.000 The ones that do not work with Israel have been doing worse, which is why the Abraham of cords, despite all of the pressures of the last couple of years, have held the Meanwhile, President Trump reported on the conversation between Netanyahu and the Qatari PM.

00:30:17.000 I'm pleased to report that earlier today we took another important step toward greater understanding of the region.

00:30:24.000 A short time ago, we had a historic phone call in the Oval Office with Prime Minister Tani, who's really a great person.

00:30:39.000 So uh we had a great talk, and I was on the phone, and BB was talking.

00:30:44.000 Prime Minister Altani was uh of Qatar, was uh they really had a heart-to-heart conversation.

00:30:51.000 It was a great conversation, I thought.

00:30:54.000 It was productive.

00:30:55.000 It was uh everything that you need to have something turn out to be successful.

00:31:00.000 And I want to thank Bibi, and I want to thank the Prime Minister.

00:31:03.000 It was fantastic.

00:31:06.000 Okay, so again, that is President Trump simply setting the groundwork for what's to come next.

00:31:10.000 So he's very optimistic at the possibility that something happens here.

00:31:13.000 He says this is potentially one of the greatest days ever.

00:31:15.000 Uh, the president is fond of superlatives.

00:31:18.000 So this is a big big day, a beautiful day, potentially one of the great days ever in civilization.

00:31:27.000 Things that have been going on for hundreds of years and thousands of years, we're gonna at least we're in a minimum, very, very close, and I think we're beyond very close.

00:31:39.000 And I want to thank Bibi for really getting in there and doing a job.

00:31:44.000 We worked well together, as we have with many other countries, both of us with many other countries, which is the only way this whole situation gets solved.

00:31:55.000 And I'm not just talking about Gaza.

00:31:57.000 Gaza is one thing, but we're talking about much beyond Gaza.

00:32:01.000 The whole deal, everything getting solved.

00:32:05.000 It's called peace in the Middle East.

00:32:08.000 Okay, and the President, of course, does want to see the Abraham Accords expanded to include places like Saudi Arabia, which would be, of course, the big move here.

00:32:16.000 And with Saudi signed on to the deal, with Egypt and Jordan signed on to the deal with all the rest of the countries in the region signed on to the deal, up to and including Turkey, by the way.

00:32:24.000 The ground is set for something much broader to happen here, should Hamas accept the deal.

00:32:28.000 And if they don't, then Hamas is totally isolated diplomatically.

00:32:32.000 Now, what that really means practically, as we'll get to in a little while, is that Israel will have to simply enforce the plan without regard to Hamas, whether they get the hostages back or not, they're going to move toward implementation of this plan.

00:32:44.000 They'll finish off Gaza City, they'll continue the establishment of humanitarian enclaves, that a counter-insurgency will then take place, but major war fighting operations will essentially be over.

00:32:55.000 This plan is going into place one way or another.

00:32:57.000 That is that is just the reality of the situation.

00:32:59.000 Something like this plan is going to happen.

00:33:01.000 President Trump starts off by explaining the moral background here, which does, in fact, make a difference, because while the President understands the power governs in the Middle East, he also understands where the moral calculus lies.

00:33:13.000 And the answer is the onus is on Hamas. 0.60

00:33:15.000 And the President has done something truly incredible here, which is to mobilize the entire world against Hamas.

00:33:21.000 That actually does take a lot.

00:33:22.000 That takes a lot.

00:33:23.000 And the President has put his force and power behind that.

00:33:26.000 Good for him.

00:33:27.000 Let us not forget how we got here.

00:33:29.000 Hamas was elected by the Palestinian people. 1.00

00:33:33.000 Israel withdrew from Gaza thinking they would live in peace.

00:33:37.000 Remember that a long time ago they withdrew.

00:33:39.000 They said, you take it.

00:33:41.000 This is our contribution to peace.

00:33:44.000 But that didn't work out.

00:33:46.000 That didn't work out.

00:33:47.000 It was the opposite of peace.

00:33:49.000 They pulled away.

00:33:51.000 They let them have it.

00:33:52.000 Okay, well, he's right about that.

00:33:55.000 And then he points out that Hamas has been using human shields, and he urged Palestinians to condemn Hamas.

00:34:02.000 Again, these are points that very few presidents would make, because most of them have been captured by the idea that if you soft-sell the actual situation in the Middle East, you're better off.

00:34:14.000 Instead of building a better life for the Palestinians, Hamas diverted resources to build over 400 miles of tunnels and terror infrastructure, rocket production facilities, and hid their military command posts and launch sites in hospitals, schools, and mosques.

00:34:31.000 So if you want after them, uh you'd be after them, and you wouldn't even realize you ended up knocking out a hospital or school or a mosque. 0.89

00:34:40.000 That terrible thing.

00:34:42.000 Terrible, terrible way to have to fight.

00:34:47.000 So there are many Palestinians who wish to live in peace.

00:34:51.000 Many, many I've seen so many of them.

00:34:55.000 And they have support.

00:34:57.000 And I challenge the Palestinians to take responsibility for their destiny, because that's what we're giving them. 1.00

00:35:03.000 We're giving them responsibility for their destiny, fully condemn and prohibit terrorism and earn their way to a brighter future.

00:35:13.000 Well, this is right.

00:35:14.000 This is right. 1.00

00:35:15.000 And the stupidity of the Europeans who have basically said that we are going to simply drop a declaration of a state upon you without any actual changes in behavior, mentality, or future orientation. 1.00

00:35:27.000 That is wildly counterproductive. 1.00

00:35:28.000 What Trump is saying here is you earn your way to a state.

00:35:32.000 If you want a state, you're going to actually have to, you know, develop the instinct that leads toward productivity and mutual coexistence as opposed to destruction.

00:35:41.000 I mean, whether or not you like it, that happens to be true.

00:35:44.000 President Trump said that the goal here is to end the military capabilities of Hamas.

00:35:49.000 Under the plan, Arab and Muslim countries have committed, and in writing, in many cases, but I actually would take their word for it. 0.99

00:35:58.000 The people I mentioned, I take Their word for it to demilitarize Gaza, and that's quickly. 0.99

00:36:06.000 Decommission the military capabilities of Hamas and all other terror organizations do that immediately.

00:36:15.000 And we're relying on the countries that I named and others to uh deal with Hamas. 0.91

00:36:22.000 And I'm hearing that Hamas wants to get this done too. 0.69

00:36:26.000 And that's a good thing.

00:36:28.000 And destroy all terror infrastructure, including the tunnels, weapons of production facilities.

00:36:35.000 They have a lot of production facilities that we're destroying.

00:36:39.000 Well, again, all this is right.

00:36:41.000 So the president spelled out, much of what we've already discussed.

00:36:44.000 He said that if Hamas agrees, all hostages will be released within 72 hours.

00:36:48.000 If accepted by Hamas, this proposal calls for the release of all remaining hostages immediately, but in no case more than 72 hours.

00:37:00.000 So the hostages are coming back.

00:37:03.000 And I hate even saying this from the standpoint, doesn't sound right, but it is so important to the parents.

00:37:14.000 I believe in almost all cases, the young men, uh coming back immediately.

00:37:23.000 So again, the the president trying to push this thing forward, and he says, What's the stick?

00:37:29.000 So this is the carrot.

00:37:30.000 The carrot is an Israeli pullback, a transitional government, aid packages to rebuild the strip, all the rest of this. 0.87

00:37:38.000 The stick is if Hamas rejects it, then Israel has his full backing to do whatever Israel has to do to finish the job, which will happen in short order, by the way. 0.68

00:37:45.000 Again, the the underrated part of all of this is that Israel's military, the IDF, has done such an extraordinary job in the Gaza Strip, particularly in places like Rafah and now in Gaza City, where they are moving in heavily urban environments, and they've cleared hundreds of thousands of civilians from the area, literally almost a million civilians from the area of the Gaza City, in order to prevent their casualty in order to prevent their deaths.

00:38:07.000 And now they're the their armory is is moving through Gaza City like a hot knife through butter.

00:38:14.000 Uh, here is President Trump saying, listen, they don't have a lot of choices on the table.

00:38:17.000 If they rejected, Israel's going to finish it anyway. 0.99

00:38:19.000 If they were unable to do so, then Israel would have the absolute right and actually our full backing, the U.S. full banking backing Marcos here.

00:38:28.000 And a lot of our leaders are here, our great vice president, Susie Wiles, Steve Whitkopf, Jared Kushner.

00:38:36.000 They've been so involved in this uh in this process.

00:38:40.000 I don't think anybody else could have done it or even even come close.

00:38:44.000 But it's uh we're we're right there.

00:38:46.000 We're right there, first time in thousands of years, I think you can probably say if you really look into it, if you study back, if you go if you're a scholar, you would say thousands of years, Israel would have my fall back into finish the job of destroying the threat of Hamas. 0.76

00:39:09.000 Well, again, this is the proper response by President Trump.

00:39:12.000 He also points out again, he's putting responsibility where it lies.

00:39:15.000 He says the Palestinian Authority, right?

00:39:17.000 They supposedly have been pursuing peace, which of course is a gigantic license, Oslo.

00:39:22.000 One of the greatest diplomatic failures of all time, the Asla Accords, a giant mistake by people on all sides of the good-hearted.

00:39:30.000 Huge mistake by Israel, huge mistake by the United States. 0.65

00:39:32.000 The Oswal cord is one of the great disastrous agreements in the history of diplomacy. 0.79

00:39:35.000 But the Palestinian Authority has been lying for some 30 years.

00:39:38.000 Mahmoud Abbas, who is now almost 90 years old.

00:39:43.000 And the last election that was held for Mahmoud Abbas as president, I believe took place in 2006.

00:39:48.000 So he's currently in the 19th year of a four-year term, Mahmoud Abbas.

00:39:52.000 And the idea is that they are somehow going to reform.

00:39:55.000 Yeah, good luck with that.

00:39:56.000 President Trump says, listen, if they don't complete the reforms, that's on them.

00:39:58.000 That's their problem.

00:40:00.000 If the Palestinian Authority does not complete the reforms that I laid out in my vision for peace in 2020, they'll have only themselves to blame. 0.92

00:40:09.000 We're giving them an amazing footprint, and they have amazing support from the leaders of the Arab world and the Muslim world, the great great leaders.

00:40:16.000 These are great leaders.

00:40:17.000 These are unbelievable leaders that have built great countries and very wealthy countries.

00:40:22.000 What the future holds for the Palestinians, no one really knows, but the plan that we put forward today is focused on ending The war immediately, getting all of our hostages back, getting everything back.

00:40:37.000 Hard to believe when you even say it.

00:40:40.000 And creating conditions for durable Israeli security and Palestinian success. 0.58

00:40:48.000 Now, again, all this is praiseworthy.

00:40:50.000 It wouldn't be a full Donald Trump press conference without a couple of traditional Trumpisms.

00:40:56.000 One of my favorites, he announced an international oversight board starring Donald J. Trump.

00:41:00.000 This is this is pretty solid Trump here.

00:41:02.000 To ensure the success of this effort, my plan calls for the creation of a new international oversight body.

00:41:09.000 The Board of Peace, we call it the Board of Peace, sort of a beautiful name, the board of peace, which will be headed, not at my request, believe me.

00:41:21.000 I'm very busy.

00:41:22.000 But we have to make sure this works.

00:41:26.000 The leaders of the Arab world and Israel and everybody involved asked me to do this, so it would be headed by a gentleman known as President Donald J. Trump of the United States.

00:41:38.000 That's what I want to some extra work to do, but it's so important that I'm willing to do it.

00:41:45.000 And we'll do it right, and we're going to put leaders from other countries on and leaders that are very distinguished leaders.

00:41:52.000 And we'll have a board, and one of the people that wants to be on the board is the UK former Prime Minister, Tony Blair, good man, very good man, and uh some others.

00:42:04.000 And they'll be named over the next few days.

00:42:07.000 So that was not his best Trumpism.

00:42:10.000 I had to save his best Trumpism for last.

00:42:12.000 That was his pronunciation of the Abraham Accords.

00:42:16.000 Uh what he's trying to do here, by the way, is that in in Hebrew, Abraham is pronounced Avraham.

00:42:22.000 Um, and uh he's sort of doing an American version here, which is uh good stuff here from the president.

00:42:29.000 In addition to negotiating the Abraham accords, I like to say it that way because the real people, that's what they call Abraham.

00:42:40.000 I would say Abraham, but it's so much nicer when you say Abraham, so much more elegant.

00:42:49.000 Solid stuff there from the president.

00:42:52.000 Alrighty, coming up, we'll get to more from this press conference.

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00:45:06.000 So, Prime Minister Netanyahu, for his part, the truth is that Prime Minister Netanyahu is making some political sacrifices here.

00:45:13.000 The right wing of his coalition in Israel is not on board with many of the provisions here.

00:45:17.000 Provisions ranging from the possibility of a reform Palestinian authority to the fact that the Prime Minister of Israel recently announced in consolidation with the United States that he would not immediately be moving to annex Judea and Samaria, which has been a longtime goal of the right wing bloc in Israel, recognizing the reality, which is that there will be no Palestinian states in Judea and Samaria, nor, by the way, should there be.

00:45:39.000 So it is not as though Netanyahu isn't taking political risk on his side.

00:45:43.000 He certainly is.

00:45:44.000 He made the point yesterday at this press conference with the president that his five goals that he had spelled out a little bit earlier last month, that those goals are being met in the negotiations that were signed off on by Israel yesterday.

00:45:56.000 All our hostages, both those who are alive and those who died, all of them will return home immediately.

00:46:06.000 Hamas will be disarmed.

00:46:08.000 Gaza will be demilitarized.

00:46:11.000 Israel will retain security responsibility, including a security perimeter for the foreseeable future.

00:46:20.000 And lastly, Gaza will have a peaceful civilian administration that is run neither by Hamas nor by the Palestinian authority.

00:46:31.000 So, again, he's right about that.

00:46:33.000 He also points out that if Hamas rejects the plan, well, then the job is just gonna get finished. 0.55

00:46:38.000 But if Hamas rejects your plan, Mr. President, or if they supposedly accept it and then uh basically do everything to counter it. 0.67

00:46:51.000 Then Israel will finish the job by itself. 0.97

00:46:56.000 This can be done the easy way, or it can be done the hard way, but it will be done.

00:47:05.000 We prefer the easy way, but it has to be done.

00:47:09.000 All these goals must be achieved because we didn't fight this horrible fight, sacrificed the finest of our young men to have Hamas stay in Gaza and threaten us again and again and again with these horrific massacres.

00:47:27.000 Now, by the way, overall, these the levels of support in Israel for Trump's plan are extremely high.

00:47:33.000 They're very, very high.

00:47:34.000 And so the only obstacle now is whether Hamas agrees or not.

00:47:38.000 Prime Minister Netanyahu had words of praise for President Trump.

00:47:42.000 Again, these were harsh negotiations.

00:47:44.000 I mean, again, I know a lot of people on all sides of the table in this particular negotiation.

00:47:48.000 The idea here that everything was sort of hunky-dory, that it was an easy negotiation, that there weren't sacrifices made on all sides, it's not true.

00:47:56.000 It was a very hard-nosed negotiation taking place between the White House and the Israeli administration.

00:48:02.000 Netanyahu had words of praise for President Trump.

00:48:05.000 While you focus at home on making America great again, your leadership abroad is changing the world for the better.

00:48:15.000 ending wars and advancing peace.

00:48:18.000 I believe that today we're taking a critical step towards both ending the war in Gaza and setting the stage for dramatically advancing peace in the Middle East.

00:48:32.000 Thank you.

00:48:34.000 Obviously, not only is that a good thing, one of the things that's unique right now, and again, I point this out, this plan has the support of everyone.

00:48:42.000 Okay, this is not a unilateral American plan, it's not a unilateral Israeli plan.

00:48:45.000 It is a plan with everyone's support, which is, again, kind of a jujitsu here by the Trump administration.

00:48:51.000 A joint statement by the foreign ministers of Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi, and Qatar says, quote, we welcome the announcement by U.S. President Trump of his proposal, which includes ending the war, rebuilding Gaza, preventing the uprooting of the Palestinian people, and promoting comprehensive peace.

00:49:05.000 Can you imagine that statement a week ago?

00:49:08.000 The President of Turkey, Reciba Terra Erdogan, Tayb Erdwan, who is awful, who is a dictator, who is in many cases a pro-Islamist dictator. 0.91

00:49:17.000 He is backing the HTS regime in Syria, which it is yet to be decided whether that regime is going to moderate or whether they just remain a terrorist regime.

00:49:24.000 He said, quote, I praise the efforts and leadership of President Trump, whose goal is to stop the bloodshed in Gaza and achieve a ceasefire.

00:49:30.000 Turkey will continue to contribute to the process to establish a just and lasting peace accepted by all parties.

00:49:36.000 It is truly amazing that somehow the media have tried to suggest that President Trump, when it comes to the Middle East, is in incompetent compared to Barack Obama or literally anyone else.

00:49:46.000 Donald Trump is the most competent leader in American history when it comes to the Middle East.

00:49:51.000 It is not particularly close.

00:49:52.000 Meanwhile, in other big foreign policy news, the president of the United States is prepared to give a $20 billion financial lifeline to Argentina.

00:50:01.000 The reason he is doing that is because obviously Argentina was in basically disastrous financial position.

00:50:06.000 They're going bankrupt every five minutes, and then Javier Mile, the president of Argentina, was elected.

00:50:11.000 And he's been taking extraordinary austerity measures, restructuring the entire economy.

00:50:16.000 However, one of the big problems is that everyone is sort of afraid that eventually Miley is going to lose an election.

00:50:22.000 If he loses an election, then any investment you make in Argentina immediately is going to get flushed down the toilet.

00:50:26.000 So right now, we are essentially doing a Marshall plan for Argentina.

00:50:29.000 We are essentially helping float Argentina to the point of financial stability so that they are in the future a free market-oriented, Western-oriented, America-oriented country.

00:50:41.000 And there are people who are treating this as though this is somehow terrible.

00:50:43.000 No, this is actually quite good.

00:50:45.000 This is significantly better than allowing Argentina to once again fall into the hands of a left-wing agitators, left-wing dictatorial types who work in cahoots with Russia and China.

00:50:57.000 This is the way foreign policy works.

00:50:58.000 The Marshall Plan was a good idea.

00:50:59.000 It kept Western Europe out of the hands of the communists, and this is a good idea as well. 0.96

00:51:04.000 According to the Washington Post, the U.S. intervention stems from a blend of political and economic considerations.

00:51:09.000 This month, Miley's party was trounced in provincial elections in Buenos Aires, raising doubts about his ability to retain a legislative majority in the October 26th midterm elections.

00:51:19.000 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson said Mile needs a bridge to the election so he can win a renewed mandate for reform.

00:51:24.000 And again, this isn't really about Melee so much as it is about free market orientation in Argentina.

00:51:29.000 If you don't wish Argentina to go bankrupt again and then fall into the hands of the Kirchner right left, back into peronism. 0.76

00:51:37.000 If you wish for that to happen, then essentially providing some sort of baseline guarantees that Argentina can get through the next elections and get right footed is a good idea.

00:51:48.000 So there are some people who are upset about all of this because I guess the idea is that if we lend money to the Argentinians, even if we get it back, that this is somehow a misuse of America's foreign policy funding.

00:52:02.000 But again, foreign policy is about the second worst choice.

00:52:05.000 It's about making the no one wants to give loans to Argentina.

00:52:08.000 Nobody wants to give guarantees to Argentina.

00:52:10.000 Nobody wants to do that.

00:52:11.000 But if that is the thing that prevents Argentina from turning back into a sort of Chinese lake, that is a good thing. 0.99

00:52:18.000 So far, Scott Besson's posts on X represent the only details that have been made public about the planned U.S. actions.

00:52:24.000 A key unknown is what Argentina will offer as collateral in return for any U.S. loan.

00:52:29.000 Besson says Argentina is systemically important, suggesting its problems could damage the global financial system.

00:52:35.000 Again, the goal is can you write can you fix the capsizing Argentinian economy and provide enough stability for investors that actually there's a long-term plan in Argentina?

00:52:46.000 Bessons is trying to make that happen, so is Trump is a smart foreign policy move.

00:52:49.000 Okay, meanwhile, speaking of the American economy, President Trump held talks with Democrats yesterday at the White House trying to avert a government shutdown.

00:52:59.000 The reality is that the Democrats own the shutdown.

00:53:02.000 Everybody basically knows this at this point.

00:53:05.000 Apparently, according to House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, it was a frank and direct discussion, but significant and meaningful differences remain.

00:53:13.000 There are less than 36 hours before federal funding lapses and agencies partially close.

00:53:17.000 Republicans are like, okay, well, you know, don't threaten us with a good time.

00:53:20.000 And Democrats keep trying to shut down the government for presumably no reason.

00:53:24.000 Vice President J.D. Vance says you don't shut the government down.

00:53:27.000 You don't use your policy disagreements as leverage, to not pay our troops, to not have essential services of government actually function.

00:53:34.000 Now, is it likely that this gets averted?

00:53:36.000 The answer is it's it's unlikely.

00:53:38.000 My guess is that you will get a few days of government shutdown, and then there will be some deal that is struck that makes minor concessions to Democrats so they can claim victory, and then Democrats cave.

00:53:46.000 So is this going to be sort of a major issue moving forward in American politics?

00:53:49.000 Highly unlikely.

00:53:51.000 Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer is already sounding out his members about a spending bill to reopen the government for seven to ten days, almost immediately upon the set-in of the government shutdown.

00:54:02.000 A seven to ten day spending bill would require unanimous consent in the Senate.

00:54:06.000 Apparently, these are talks in their initial phases.

00:54:09.000 Is this like a big deal?

00:54:11.000 Unlikely.

00:54:12.000 Unlikely.

00:54:13.000 Meanwhile, Democrats, again, for so many Democrats, it's all about signaling.

00:54:17.000 It's all about signaling to their left wing base.

00:54:19.000 And that is why they can't get out of their own way.

00:54:22.000 It's truly amazing.

00:54:23.000 It really is.

00:54:24.000 If Democrats simply abandon their most far left positions, they'd be significantly better off.

00:54:28.000 But they cannot.

00:54:29.000 It is not possible for them. 1.00

00:54:31.000 Instead of simply operating on the basis of a sort of economic populism, instead, they have decided that they're going to double down on stupid. 1.00

00:54:39.000 They're going to get more and more extremes. 1.00

00:54:41.000 So Tanahasie Coates, truly one of the most egregiously awful people in American politics. 1.00

00:54:46.000 A purple writer wildly overpraised a James Baldwin knockoff without the talent or the life difficulties.

00:54:53.000 Tanahasi Coates, he took the time to sit with Ezra Klein, where he declared that Charlie Kirk's legacy was hey, good luck with this argument, seriously.

00:55:01.000 I don't take any joy in saying this, but we sometimes soothe ourselves by pointing out that love, acceptance, want that these are powerful forces.

00:55:11.000 I believe they are.

00:55:12.000 I also believe hate is a powerful force.

00:55:15.000 I believe it's a powerful, powerful, unifying force.

00:55:18.000 And I think Charlie Kirk was a hate monger.

00:55:21.000 You know, I really need to say this over and over again.

00:55:25.000 I have a politic that rejects violence, that rejects political violence.

00:55:29.000 I take no joy in the killing of anyone, no matter what they said.

00:55:34.000 But if you ask me what the truth of his life was, you know, the truth of his public life, I would have to tell you it's hate.

00:55:43.000 I would tell you, I'd have to tell you it is the usage of hate and the harnessing of hate towards political ends. 1.00

00:55:48.000 What a bag of trash he is, seriously. 0.99

00:55:51.000 This is a person who wrote an entire book that was effectively a defense of Hamas. 1.00

00:55:55.000 This is a person who literally talked in between the world and me about feeling nothing while people burn to death in the world trade centers.

00:56:02.000 But don't worry, he rejects political violence.

00:56:04.000 I mean, but this is what the Democratic Party cannot divide from.

00:56:06.000 They refuse to divide from it.

00:56:08.000 Because it's not enough for them to push economic populism, a thing they've been pushing my entire life.

00:56:12.000 Instead, they have to tie it to a sort of bizarre DEI racism or radical trans politics.

00:56:19.000 They just can't let go, which is why they're not pushing sort of traditional blue-collar purple state Democrats who engage in economic populism.

00:56:29.000 Instead, they're pushing people like Zoran Mamdani.

00:56:32.000 They have to.

00:56:33.000 Their coalition requires the radicalism.

00:56:35.000 I mean, literally yesterday, Zoran Mamdani refused to denounce Hamas.

00:56:40.000 Yesterday, and this guy's gonna be the mayor of New York, and they are treating him as though he is some sort of thought leader for the Democratic Party.

00:56:46.000 It's amazing.

00:56:48.000 I am not going to echo the words of Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:56:52.000 Um I can, however, share my own words and say them right here, which is that my politics is built on a universality, and I can think of no better illustration of that than from the words of the hostage families themselves.

00:57:06.000 Everyone for everyone.

00:57:07.000 It is something that they have said for months.

00:57:10.000 It is something that they have called for in not only understanding that those hostages must be released, but that this is intertwined with the end of this genocide.

00:57:20.000 God, he is awful.

00:57:21.000 He's just all and this is the person who they they keep promoting.

00:57:25.000 By the way, his economic populism amounts to never having to defend his actual plans.

00:57:30.000 Yesterday, he did a press conference about his plan to buy up a bunch of housing, and by buy, I mean spend your taxpayer dollars buying housing and then turning it into run-down trash heaps.

00:57:40.000 Well, he smirked as he received zero questions on his housing plan.

00:57:43.000 We'll start with on-topic questions first, please.

00:57:48.000 Okay.

00:57:49.000 No questions at all.

00:57:50.000 Well go hedge. 1.00

00:57:54.000 There's a big smile from this socialistic Marxist Islamist friendly moron. 1.00

00:57:59.000 Glad that you got you know what, New York, you get what you deserve. 1.00

00:58:02.000 You guys decide to vote for this, you break it, you bought it.

00:58:04.000 Meanwhile, the Democratic Party continues to embrace him.

00:58:06.000 Representative Dan Goldman says, Don't worry, we share a lot of goals.

00:58:09.000 He says, Yeah, it's kind of wrong that Mamdani is saying that he will arrest the Prime Minister of Israel if he has the ability to do so.

00:58:14.000 But we do share many, many goals.

00:58:15.000 God, the cowardice here is pretty astonishing.

00:58:19.000 Well, I've had some uh good conversation with uh Zoran Mamdani shortly after the primary.

00:58:25.000 Uh, he and I have a lot of shared views on affordability And the desire to address our housing crisis, to address uh the expense of child care.

00:58:37.000 We work together on uh free bus pilot in the state legislature.

00:58:41.000 And so I think we share a lot of the goals.

00:58:45.000 Okay, so uh good luck to the Democratic Party continuing to embrace all this.

00:58:49.000 President Trump, by the way, is enjoying the Mamdanny candidacy probably a little too much. 1.00

00:58:54.000 He put out a statement saying that he is going to cut off money to New York City if Mamdanny wins.

00:59:00.000 He's gonna have problems with Washington, like no mayor in in the history of our once great city.

00:59:04.000 President Trump posted on Truth Social.

00:59:06.000 Remember, he needs the money from me as president in order to fulfill all of his fake communist promises.

00:59:10.000 He won't be getting any of it.

00:59:11.000 So what's the point of voting for him?

00:59:13.000 This ideology has failed always for thousands of years, it will fail again, and that's a guaranteed.

00:59:17.000 A fair point there from the president of the United States.

00:59:20.000 But the Democratic Party is totally unable to divide off from this.

00:59:24.000 It's why moderates in the Democratic Party, people like Ram Emanuel, they are running uphill, uphill races here.

00:59:32.000 This is the point of a Wall Street Journal article about Ram Emanuel, the former chief of staff to Barack Obama, who's now, because the Democratic Party has moved so far to the left, an actual centrist, quote, his centrist message clashes with an insurgent progressive base mesmerized by figures such as Representative Alexander Ocasio-Cortez and Zora Mamzani, the self-described democratic socialist favorite in New York City's November mayoral election.

00:59:53.000 Quote, it felt at times a little bit like watching a professional athlete return to the arena after an extended absence.

00:59:59.000 The game has changed significantly since the 65-year-old was last a candidate in 2018 with the explosion of social media and viral videos in politics.

01:00:07.000 Emmanuel made frequent mentions of political and policy wins.

01:00:10.000 He helped Bill Clinton and Barack Obama achieve, as well as his own in Chicago.

01:00:13.000 But gone were his recent criticisms of his party's brand as toxic and weak and woke.

01:00:17.000 Well, he was right about that.

01:00:19.000 It was toxic, weak and woke.

01:00:21.000 But, you know, it ain't gonna pay off for him inside the Democratic Party in all likelihood.

01:00:26.000 Okay, meanwhile, it is worth noting there was major controversy that had broken out over after the death of Charlie Kirk about a letter that Charlie wrote to the Prime Minister of Israel.

01:00:36.000 There were those online who are suggesting that the letter that Charlie wrote to the Prime Minister of Israel was somehow uh a sort of dear John letter.

01:00:42.000 It was sort of a breakup letter that Charlie was oriented against Israel in this letter.

01:00:46.000 The full text of that letter has now been revealed by the New York Post, among other publications.

01:00:51.000 And um, suffice it to say, the the letter is precisely the opposite.

01:00:55.000 The letter from Charlie was very pro-Israel, obviously.

01:00:58.000 Charlie's letter is seven pages long, and it is offering just a bunch of pretty good solid social media advice to the government of Israel.

01:01:05.000 He points out that a lot of young people are being misinformed by TikTok, being misinformed by the videos they watch on YouTube.

01:01:10.000 And because Charlie was such a social media guru, he basically laid out a series of suggestions in order to help Israel combat all of the anti-Israel, anti-Zionist, anti-Semitic crap that was put out on social media.

01:01:23.000 People who lied and said that the letter was anything but that were in fact lying.

01:01:27.000 It wasn't true.

01:01:28.000 It is worth pointing that out.

01:01:29.000 You can go check out the letter in full over at the New York Post. 1.00

01:01:33.000 Okay, meanwhile, I have to say that it is amusing to watch as the United Kingdom continues to sink into irrelevance and stupidity. 0.98

01:01:41.000 So they had to walk back a study that they recently put out via the National Health Service trying to talk up cousin marriage. 0.97

01:01:49.000 Now, the only reason that there are people in the UK trying to talk up cousin marriage is because a vast number of importies from the third world, particularly from Muslim countries, are marrying their cousins in Great Britain. 0.90

01:02:00.000 And it turns out that cousin marriage is not actually a wonderful thing.

01:02:03.000 It comes along with some risk of genetic anomaly, obviously.

01:02:06.000 But it turns out that also solid case that the West was built on the banning of cousin marriage.

01:02:12.000 This is a case that was made pretty openly by an author named Joseph Henrik in a great book called The Weirdest People in the World, which is about people who are from wealthy, well-educated, industrialized, rich countries.

01:02:25.000 And basically, Henrik makes the case that the Catholic church banning cousin marriage on the continent is what led to the rise of Europe as a great world power.

01:02:34.000 Because cousin marriages create kinship networks, they create tribe.

01:02:37.000 When you get rid of cousin marriage, then actually the nuclear family becomes the locus of all living, and then you have to form other social bonds in the form of religious community or national identity or all the rest. 0.81

01:02:48.000 According to Henrich, quote, each century of Western church exposure cuts the rate of cousin marriage by nearly 60%.

01:02:55.000 And the idea is that when you cut off cousin marriage, you get greater individualism, more trust in strangers, because not everybody is your cousin, more analytic thinking to apply broad rules to people who are non kin and all the rest.

01:03:07.000 It is just hilarious that the UK has been so overrun by people marrying their cousins, they felt the necessity to actually post an article saying that cousin marriage is uh is a is a good thing in the end.

01:03:19.000 Is there any other way, honestly, that the UK government could become any more cucked?

01:03:24.000 Is that possible at this point?

01:03:26.000 Is truly an amazing, amazing thing.

01:03:28.000 I mean, and if you're asking, the answer, of course, is yes.

01:03:30.000 UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer just yesterday suggested that illegal immigration in the UK was being driven by climate change.

01:03:36.000 Not by bad immigration policy, by the world getting warmer. 0.67

01:03:39.000 I think um we need to look at every aspect of illegal migration.

01:03:43.000 Upstream, looking at the causes, which of course um are often poverty, climate change, persecution.

01:03:50.000 Look at the cause.

01:03:52.000 Well, I mean, the other thing you could look at is why your borders are open in the first place.

01:03:56.000 But they're not going to do that.

01:03:56.000 That might implicate their really terrible policy.

01:03:58.000 Keir Starmer, by the way, is at the moment the most unpopular Prime Minister in UK history.

01:04:06.000 In UK history.

01:04:07.000 So well done.

01:04:09.000 Truly, well done uh to the Prime Minister of the UK who entered office on the wings of Eagles based on the failure of the Conservative Party.

01:04:18.000 Today, according to Ugov, 72% of people in the UK believe that he is doing a bad job as the Prime Minister.

01:04:27.000 Only 18% think that he is doing a good job.

01:04:29.000 So his approval ratings in the UK are slightly below that of colon cancer.

01:04:34.000 Alrighty, coming up, we will get to Jimmy Kimmel, who's now returning to the airwaves, even for Nextstar, even for Sinclair.

01:04:41.000 Plus, Emma Watson going to war with J.K. Rowling.

01:04:43.000 That's not going to go well for her.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - September 30, 2025

BREAKING: Trump Unleashes GROUNDBREAKING Gaza Plan

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