The Ben Shapiro Show - Bring BACK The Ten Commandments in Schools

00:00:00.000 One of the great lies that is told by the international left, particularly the American left, is the idea that if you have no religion, if you are an atheist, if you are somebody who is in the post-Christian world, well that really means that you have an alternative ideology called secularism.

00:00:14.000 And the secularism is in fact not a form of religion.

00:00:17.000 It's a form of reason and logic.

00:00:20.000 That's not true.

00:00:21.000 It just simply is not true.

00:00:22.000 There are a wide variety of belief systems across the world, and one of them is, in fact, secularism.

00:00:28.000 And secularism has turned into a weird version of paganism in which nature is to be worshipped.

00:00:34.000 And one of the ways that you see that is in protesters against the climate, against the heating up of the world, which, again, some of that is anthropogenic, meaning human cause.

00:00:43.000 Some of it is probably not.

00:00:46.000 Well, these protesters believe that they are going to make the world a better place by destroying or defacing monuments.

00:00:54.000 Whether it is the Mona Lisa, or whether it's the Eiffel Tower, or now, whether it is Stonehenge.

00:00:58.000 So yesterday, environmental protesters decided it would be an amazing idea to go and spray paint Stonehenge in order to demonstrate that oil is bad.

00:01:08.000 So they are deploying all sorts of chemicals into the air in order to show that it is bad to deploy carbon into the air.

00:01:15.000 The group posted on X that Just Stop Oil protesters demanded the incoming government sign up to a legally binding treaty to phase out fossil fuels by 2030 because you can magically declare that alternative sources of energy are not going to impoverish the world and make people sicker, poorer, and live longer.

00:01:31.000 A shorter amount of time.

00:01:33.000 If you just spray paint on an ancient historical site.

00:01:37.000 An ancient pagan historical site.

00:01:38.000 There's a sort of weird resonance here.

00:01:41.000 From paganism to paganism to a few thousand year jaunt into Judeo-Christianity.

00:01:47.000 And now we've apparently moved beyond that into a different form of religion.

00:01:50.000 That's what happened yesterday at Stonehenge.

00:01:51.000 and here's some film of the just stop oil protesters damaging Stonehenge in the name

00:01:56.000 of the climate.

00:01:57.000 ok sorry

00:02:03.000 Hsiao, I'm so sorry Stop it

00:02:23.000 hide yourself I'm so sorry

00:02:30.000 I'm so sorry Hsiao, I'm so sorry

00:02:36.000 And then My name's Niamh, I'm 21, and I'm a student at the University of Oxford.

00:02:48.000 Today, I'm taking action with Just Stop Oil to demand that the UK government commits to signing the Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty and promises to stop burning fossil fuels by 2030.

00:02:58.000 To refuse to do so is to warrant death, destruction, and suffering on an absolutely immense and immeasurable scale.

00:03:08.000 Today, we'll be taking action at Stonehenge, the day before the solstice.

00:03:13.000 For thousands of years, people have come to Stonehenge on the solstice to celebrate our natural world, to celebrate the beauty of our natural world.

00:03:23.000 But I can't help thinking, what does it look like today?

00:03:27.000 And what the heck have we done to it?

00:03:29.000 These stones have stood here for 5,000 years.

00:03:34.000 What will the world look like in 5,000 years time?

00:03:37.000 Will our legacy be becoming ever more clear that we end the fossil fuel era or the fossil fuel era ends us?

00:03:44.000 Well, the new religion here obviously involves defacing monuments. 0.95

00:03:50.000 It also involves gender non-binariness.

00:03:53.000 It's this sort of Gnostic religion that exists out there. 0.97

00:03:56.000 The reason I point this out is not because I think that it is wildly important that these morons keep gluing themselves to walls and floors and paintings and streets and all the rest of this stuff. 0.79

00:04:05.000 I think that actually they're doing their cause a great disservice because it turns out most people object. 0.90

00:04:09.000 to watching historic objects defaced.

00:04:11.000 The reason I point this out is because the great lie that I talked about a couple of minutes ago, this great lie that secularism is not its own form of religion, is a lie that has been telescoped into American law.

00:04:22.000 This comes up today because the Louisiana governor has now declared that he is going to put the Ten Commandments back in schools and the left is losing its absolute mind.

00:04:32.000 According to the Associated Press, Louisiana has become the first state to require that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public school classroom.

00:04:39.000 It's the latest move from a GOP-dominated legislature pushing a conservative agenda under a new governor, which is usually what happens when you have, you know, Republicans in the legislature and also Republicans as the governors usually get a more conservative agenda.

00:04:51.000 The legislation, signed by Republican Governor Jeff Landry into law on Wednesday, requires a poster-sized display of the Ten Commandments in large, easily readable fonts in all public classrooms, from kindergarten to state-funded universities.

00:05:02.000 Landry said, if you want to respect the rule of law, you've got to start from the original lawgiver, who was Moses, who got the commandments from God.

00:05:09.000 Opponents naturally jumped into action, suggesting that this was wildly unconstitutional.

00:05:14.000 Under the law, state funds will not be used to implement the mandate.

00:05:17.000 The posters will be paid for through donations, so it's not state money.

00:05:20.000 It's just going to say that there has to be a display there.

00:05:22.000 It also authorizes, but does not require, the display of other items in K-12 public schools, including the Mayflower Compact, the Declaration of Independence, the Northwest Ordinance, Well, very quickly, the ACLU, which is a trash organization, they used to stand for free speech.

00:05:37.000 Now they just stand for radical leftism.

00:05:39.000 They immediately announced this was unconstitutional and they were going to stand up to it.

00:05:44.000 CNN's Eli Honig, who is one of their legal analysts, he says this is clearly unconstitutional.

00:05:49.000 We'll explain why he's wrong in just a moment and why it matters.

00:05:52.000 But this is actually the size.

00:05:53.000 This is 11 by 14.

00:05:54.000 This is what, actually, the size that has to be printed.

00:05:57.000 Obviously, clearly legible.

00:05:58.000 You can read this.

00:06:00.000 And it's just notable that this is what they're saying has to be in each classroom.

00:06:04.000 But my first question was, you know, is requiring this, regardless of size, does it violate the First Amendment?

00:06:11.000 Yes, flagrantly, in my view.

00:06:12.000 If you wanted a perfect example of what the First Amendment prohibits, I think this is it.

00:06:17.000 The First Amendment says, Congress, government, shall make no law respecting establishment of religion, meaning state entities can't do things that endorse any particular religion or religiosity in general.

00:06:28.000 And if you look at those ten, there are some, I know one of the defenses is, well, these are themes that are consistent throughout civilized society and throughout religion.

00:06:36.000 Shall not kill.

00:06:37.000 Number six, I'm cheating because I'm looking.

00:06:38.000 But you know, don't kill, don't rob, don't steal, that kind of thing.

00:06:41.000 But there are some commandments that are inherently religious.

00:06:44.000 Observe the Sabbath day.

00:06:45.000 I'm the only God that you may worship.

00:06:47.000 So it's an inherently religious document.

00:06:49.000 I should add, this came up before.

00:06:51.000 In 1980, there was a case out of Kentucky in the Supreme Court, almost the exact same facts, and the Supreme Court said, unconstitutional.

00:06:58.000 Okay, so here is the problem with this particular argument.

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00:08:00.000 The problem is that the United States is not a fundamentally secular country.

00:08:06.000 What I mean by that is that it is not the French Republic.

00:08:09.000 This is a point that was made by Justice Scalia in a dissent in the 2005 case.

00:08:13.000 In which the Constitution of France says France is a secular republic in which religion is to be excluded generally from the public forum.

00:08:22.000 That is not the United States of America.

00:08:24.000 The First Amendment was designed to guarantee the practice of religion against the federal government. 0.89

00:08:30.000 So just to do the history of the First Amendment very quickly here, this idea that there is a separating wall between church and state in the sense that religion is never supposed to impact People's values and how they vote.

00:08:41.000 Or religion can never be promoted in the public square.

00:08:43.000 Or, in fact, religion generally can never be promoted against irreligion generally by the government.

00:08:49.000 That is also untrue.

00:08:51.000 There's no historical basis for this.

00:08:53.000 The First Amendment specifically says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

00:09:01.000 Number one, this was never supposed to originally be implemented in the states.

00:09:05.000 It took all the way until the 1940s for the Supreme Court to declare that this was now going to be applied at the state level.

00:09:10.000 It's one of the weirdnesses of constitutional law.

00:09:13.000 The first rule is stop looking at the Constitution when you do constitutional law, because the Bill of Rights is specifically applicable to the federal government, not to the state government.

00:09:22.000 In fact, 9 of the 13 colonies had established churches at the time of the Revolutionary War.

00:09:29.000 Connecticut maintained its Congregationalist church, like a state-sponsored church, until 1818.

00:09:34.000 New Hampshire until 1819.

00:09:36.000 Massachusetts until 1833.

00:09:38.000 So well past the establishment of the First Amendment, there were states in the United States that had established religions.

00:09:45.000 Why?

00:09:46.000 Because again, the goal here was to stop the federal government from establishing its own generalized religion that would prohibit people at the state level from having their own religions.

00:09:57.000 The idea that secularism was supposed to predominate in the United States is obviously untrue and none of the founders believed that.

00:10:03.000 Even the founders who tended toward atheism.

00:10:05.000 tended to believe that religion had an extraordinarily positive effect on the body politic, and so the promotion of religion generally was considered a good thing by the Founding Fathers.

00:10:17.000 As President John Adams wrote a letter to the Massachusetts militia, quote, we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion.

00:10:25.000 Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net.

00:10:30.000 Our Constitution was made only from moral and religious people. 0.96

00:10:33.000 George Washington said in his first inaugural address, quote, Even James Madison, who wrote the Non-Establishment Clause of the Virginia State Constitution, for example, he did so because he thought he was strengthening religion.

00:10:41.000 in the economy and course of nature in an insoluble union between virtue and happiness.

00:10:45.000 Even James Madison, who wrote the non-establishment clause of the Virginia state constitution,

00:10:50.000 for example, he did so because he thought he was strengthening religion.

00:10:54.000 He thought that if you established a religion in Virginia, it would prohibit the flowering

00:10:58.000 of religion in the private sphere.

00:11:01.000 Thomas Jefferson, the guy who everyone talks about in terms of coining the phrase separation

00:11:04.000 between church and state, recognized, quote, the moral branch of religion instructs us

00:11:08.000 how to live well and worthily in society.

00:11:11.000 Thank you. 0.99

00:11:12.000 Now what the courts have done, or had done, for the last several decades, is something that is completely unprecedented and stupid. 0.98

00:11:19.000 They have read the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause as in opposition to one another. 0.91

00:11:24.000 Remember, the Constitution says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

00:11:31.000 There are two ways to read that, and the Supreme Court has read this in the dumbest possible way.

00:11:34.000 One is that Congress shall not prohibit you from freely exercising a religion, and the second is Congress shall not establish any religion, and it has read them completely separately.

00:11:46.000 And what that's done is it has put them in conflict with one another, because it turns out that if you express your religion freely in the public square, then the Supreme Court might say you're violating the Establishment Clause.

00:11:56.000 But that's never how this provision was meant to be read.

00:11:58.000 They were meant to be read in tandem.

00:12:00.000 The basic idea was you can't establish, say, Catholicism as the official religion of the United States, because in doing so, you will quash the free exercise of people of other religions via compulsion. 0.64

00:12:12.000 That is what the Constitution was designed to prohibit, was compulsion in religion.

00:12:17.000 Well, there's nothing compulsory about a sign on a classroom wall.

00:12:24.000 If there was something compulsory about a sign on a classroom wall, there'd be all sorts of serious free speech issues in a classroom, because it turns out classroom walls are filled with all sorts of stuff that's on the walls.

00:12:35.000 Is it violating my free speech if somebody puts up on the wall a sign that says something I disagree with?

00:12:43.000 I'm not sure how that violates my free speech, but the same argument is made about religion.

00:12:47.000 That if I walk into a public school and there is a sign that quotes the Bible, in a non-denominational way, by the way, because it turns out that the three major religions, traditionally, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, all agree that the Ten Commandments were given to Moses, and they agree on the content of the Ten Commandments.

00:13:04.000 So in 1971, the Supreme Court took up a case called Lemon v. Kurtzman, and they came up with an incredibly stupid test to determine whether some sort of government action violated the separation of church and state.

00:13:17.000 They said that any law had to fulfill three conditions.

00:13:19.000 One, it had to have a secular purpose.

00:13:21.000 Two, it had to have a predominantly secular effect.

00:13:24.000 And three, it had to not foster excessive entanglement between government and religion.

00:13:28.000 Now, when you read that, that is on its face nonsensical.

00:13:31.000 It basically doesn't set any standard at all.

00:13:34.000 Because I can make an argument for virtually any religious display that it both violates the Lemon Test and also does not violate the Lemon Test.

00:13:43.000 In 1980, the Supreme Court, this is the case that Eli Honig was referring to, in a case called Stone v. Graham, there was a law that required the classroom display of the Ten Commandments.

00:13:52.000 And the Supreme Court found that it was unconstitutional because it had no secular legislative purpose.

00:13:58.000 They said the Ten Commandments convey a religious undertone because they include the religious duties of believers, worshiping the Lord God alone, avoiding idolatry, not using the Lord's name in vain, observing the Sabbath day.

00:14:08.000 But again, that is based on a fundamental misreading that again is enshrined in Lemon, that the government of the United States has to take no position between religion and irreligion.

00:14:19.000 That the government of the United States has no, none, interest in promoting public morality via generalized religion.

00:14:28.000 That the government has to be absolutely agnostic about whether it is promoting the Ten Commandments or whether it is promoting just stop oil.

00:14:37.000 That these are paganism, Judeo-Christian religion, the Ten Commandments, all these things are of a piece according to the Supreme Court from 1971 on.

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00:15:45.000 In 2005, there's a case that's very similar about a public display of the Ten Commandments.

00:15:49.000 And Justice Scalia dissents in this case, and here's what he writes.

00:15:52.000 What distinguishes the rule of law from the dictatorship of a shifting Supreme Court majority

00:15:56.000 is the absolute indispensable requirement that judicial opinions

00:15:59.000 be grounded in consistently applied principle.

00:16:01.000 He, by the way, is ripping the lemon test.

00:16:03.000 He's saying there's no consistently applied principle.

00:16:05.000 Besides appealing to the demonstrably false principle that government cannot favor religion over irreligion, today's opinion suggests the posting of the Ten Commandments violates the principle that the government cannot favor one religion over another.

00:16:17.000 If religion in the public forum had to be entirely non-denominational, there could be no religion in the public forum at all.

00:16:22.000 One cannot say the word God or the Almighty.

00:16:24.000 One cannot offer public supplication or thanksgiving without contradicting the beliefs of some people that there are many gods, or that God and the gods pay no attention to human affairs.

00:16:32.000 With respect to public acknowledgment of religious belief, it is entirely clear from our nation's historical practices that the Establishment Clause permits this disregard of polytheists and believers in unconcerned deities, just as it permits the disregard of devout atheists.

00:16:45.000 In other words, every time Joe Biden finishes his speech and says, God bless our troops, why isn't that an establishment of religion in the same way it would theoretically be an establishment of religion to put the Ten Commandments on a public school classroom?

00:16:56.000 And the answer is, because it's not establishing religion.

00:16:59.000 Joe Biden isn't forcing you to do anything, and neither is the sign on the public school classroom.

00:17:03.000 It is encouraging you to abide by the central, fundamental, moral premises of the West.

00:17:09.000 The attempt to remove the Ten Commandments says more about the society than the attempt to replace them.

00:17:16.000 All of Western civilization is based on a merger of Judeo-Christian ethics, found in the Old and the New Testaments, and Greek reason.

00:17:24.000 Well, in our modern society, we've decided to basically call all of those things dispensable. 0.98

00:17:29.000 We're just gonna get rid of all of them, and that's why you end up with morons who are spray-painting orange on the Stonehenge Monument. 0.98

00:17:34.000 That is why they're doing that. 0.99

00:17:36.000 Because it turns out that when you move into a post-reason and also post-religious society, religion and reason, by the way, for most of human history, were thought to bolster one another.

00:17:44.000 Because as it turns out, there is no basis in evolutionary biology for the notion that there is this thing called right reason that ends in actual, factual, truthful statements, like capital T truth, independent of your mind.

00:17:59.000 That is a fundamental faith principle.

00:18:02.000 And it is necessary in order to pursue things like science and reason.

00:18:06.000 This is why everybody from Thomas Aquinas to Maimonides believed that there was a consonance between faith principles and rationality.

00:18:16.000 But first society decided to divide those two things to say that there was faith principle and that was irrationality.

00:18:22.000 And then there were reasonable principles and that was reason.

00:18:24.000 And then they decided to dispense with both of those because it turns out that without the grounding of particular faith principles, reason collapses in on itself.

00:18:32.000 Because you simply cannot make, it is not possible to make a case for the idea of secular reason and logic absent certain basic premises.

00:18:40.000 It's not my argument, it's an argument made by a philosopher and mathematician named Alvin Platinga.

00:18:45.000 That the sort of fundamental argument in favor of human reason is that your brain is capable of grasping higher truths.

00:18:53.000 But what in the meat package that is your brain allows it to grasp something called truth rather than something called adaptability, like whatever makes you survive?

00:19:04.000 It is that move from the adaptive to the true that is something that cannot be bridged without a fundamental faith assumption.

00:19:12.000 In any case, as it turns out, a society that takes down the Ten Commandments Tends to be a society that does not obey the Ten Commandments, and does not believe that the Ten Commandments are important.

00:19:21.000 And it turns out the Ten Commandments are really, really important.

00:19:25.000 Not because secular societies, meaning non-Judeo-Christian religious societies, are going to involve themselves in murder necessarily, or that people will simply decide that without a sign on the wall saying, Thou shalt not kill, that is totally fine to kill. 0.87

00:19:37.000 But it's the idea that without an absolute moral arbiter sitting at the top of the hierarchy, That that becomes a matter of argument.

00:19:47.000 The whole point of having a sort of higher morality that is non-appealable, there is no debate about it, is precisely that.

00:19:57.000 That once you start having debates about the rightness or wrongness of killing, you end up in some pretty dicey moral territory pretty quickly.

00:20:06.000 On a sort of constitutional level, this is why the Constitution was written in order to enshrine certain principles and to put them beyond the realm of debate.

00:20:12.000 It's why you have to have a supermajority in order to change the Constitution, for example.

00:20:16.000 When it comes to godly commandments, even from a secular point of view, let's say that you're a total atheist and you believe that there is no God.

00:20:22.000 Why might you believe that the Ten Commandments are important?

00:20:24.000 Because it takes certain fundamental principles and puts them beyond the scope of debate.

00:20:29.000 And it's pretty good that those are beyond the scope of debate.

00:20:31.000 You don't want to live in a society where thou shalt not kill is not beyond the scope of debate.

00:20:36.000 Well, that really is like a debatable proposition.

00:20:38.000 Or thou shalt not commit adultery.

00:20:41.000 It turns out that that one has been put to the test in the United States, and it's ended pretty poorly.

00:20:46.000 Actually, it turns out that many of the central principles of the Ten Commandments have been put to the test in the United States since we've decided not to obey them, and it's ended really, really poorly for the United States and for Western civilization in general.

00:21:00.000 I think it's almost, not almost, it is completely inarguable that a society that abides by the Ten Commandments is going to be better than a society that does not.

00:21:08.000 How about honor thy parents?

00:21:10.000 We're now a society that does not honor our parents.

00:21:13.000 We're a society that scorns our parents as racists and bigots and white supremacists and vestiges of the past.

00:21:18.000 Has that made our society better or worse?

00:21:22.000 How about do not bear false witness?

00:21:24.000 We live in a society now in which you are totally allowed to bear false witness so long as the political motivations of the person against whom you are bearing the false witness are suspect.

00:21:33.000 Has that made this society better or worse?

00:21:34.000 How about the 10th commandment?

00:21:36.000 Do not covet other people's possessions.

00:21:39.000 We live in a society that's totally done away with that, in which covetousness is now seen as an actual political program.

00:21:44.000 Bernie Sanders' new party, if he ever decided to start one, should be called the covetousness party.

00:21:51.000 Because that's all he does, just covets other people's stuff, believing that it is his own.

00:21:56.000 It turns out that a society has to have a centralizing philosophy.

00:21:59.000 The centralizing philosophy of the United States used to be grounded in Judeo-Christian virtue.

00:22:03.000 That is why it is good to put the Ten Commandments back up on the wall.

00:22:06.000 Not that everybody's going to start abiding by them, but to remind people that, in fact, a functional society has to have a functional philosophy.

00:22:12.000 And the most functional philosophy over the last several thousand years has sprung from those Ten Commandments.

00:22:16.000 And there is nothing wrong with that constitutionally.

00:22:18.000 There's nothing wrong with that legally.

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00:23:50.000 And again, no one's being forced to pray in the classroom.

00:23:54.000 In fact, even when prayer in the classroom was a thing, no one was being forced to pray in the classroom.

00:23:59.000 You were allowed to sit it out, for example.

00:24:03.000 But beyond all of that, it turns out that a functional society understands that freedom exists because of the virtue upon which it sits, and within the confines of the virtuous institutions that also exist.

00:24:20.000 We're a society that's basically decided that freedom can destroy everything else around.

00:24:22.000 It can be used as a sort of universal acid to get rid of virtue.

00:24:27.000 And then it turns out freedom without virtue is just vice.

00:24:30.000 And that's effectively what we have seen in the United States of America.

00:24:32.000 So good for the governor of Louisiana.

00:24:34.000 I have a feeling the Supreme Court is going to uphold this this time.

00:24:38.000 Mainly because, again, in 2022, Justice Gorsuch correctly pointed out that Lemon was unworkable.

00:24:43.000 He said that it creates, quote, a vice between the establishment clause on one side and the free speech and free exercise clauses on the other, which is a point that I made a little bit earlier.

00:24:51.000 And he is right about all of that.

00:24:52.000 So, I think the United States will be a better place for having displays like this in public places.

00:24:57.000 It turns out that having displays about innate Judeo-Christian morality in public places, in a non-denominational fashion, is a pretty good thing.

00:25:08.000 And meanwhile, Joe Biden is running an election campaign that at the very best is dicey.

00:25:12.000 There's a new Fox News poll out.

00:25:13.000 It shows that Joe Biden is up 50 to 48 on Donald Trump.

00:25:16.000 That's his first lead in the Fox News poll in quite a while.

00:25:18.000 It's still well within the margin of error.

00:25:20.000 And if this is a margin of error election, it doesn't look like that's going to go particularly well for Joe Biden.

00:25:25.000 But it is a reminder to Republicans, this thing is not a cakewalk by any stretch of the imagination.

00:25:29.000 I think there are a lot of Republicans out there who, because Trump is outperforming his polling data in 2020, and because the 2020 election was really, really close, he ended up losing by about 7 million popular votes, but he ended up losing in the Electoral College by a grand total of like 43,000 votes spread over a few different states.

00:25:47.000 Well, it's still a really, really close election.

00:25:50.000 Everything is margin of error.

00:25:51.000 So don't be fooled.

00:25:52.000 If you're a Republican, don't be fooled into complacency about this election.

00:25:56.000 Joe Biden has decided that he is going to run the Barack Obama 2012 strategy.

00:26:01.000 The Barack Obama 2012 strategy is present a bunch of give-outs to particular constituency groups and claim that your opponent is pure, unbridled, malicious evil.

00:26:13.000 The fact that it worked in 2012 against Mitt Romney, who, again, is like the most milquetoast human being on planet Earth, is one of the great amazements of politics, as I've talked about before.

00:26:20.000 But that is, in fact, the Joe Biden strategy.

00:26:23.000 Right now, again, just to repeat the polls, the polls, as of today, in the RealCourt Politics Polling Average, show Donald Trump up about five points in Arizona, more than five points in Nevada, which is just a blowout Nevada.

00:26:35.000 He's dead even in Wisconsin.

00:26:36.000 He's dead even in Michigan.

00:26:38.000 He's up a couple of points in Pennsylvania.

00:26:41.000 He's up about five points in North Carolina.

00:26:42.000 He's up about five points in Georgia.

00:26:45.000 So again, those are good numbers for Trump, but they are not, by any stretch of the imagination, he's going to wallop Joe Biden numbers.

00:26:52.000 So, Joe Biden's strategy, apparently, is to, again, just pursue giveouts and handouts, no matter what that does for the broader body politic.

00:27:01.000 So, in other words, concentrated benefits for particular groups that Joe Biden needs in order to win, and diffuse costs across the population, except sometimes those costs are not so diffuse.

00:27:11.000 As, for example, in the case of the Maryland mother named Rachel Morin.

00:27:15.000 According to CNN, a months-long investigation into the 2023 murder of a Maryland mother has led to the arrest of a 23-year-old man, according to local authorities.

00:27:23.000 Victor Antonio Martinez Hernandez, a citizen of El Salvador, was arrested at a bar in Tulsa, Oklahoma, according to the Tulsa Police Department.

00:27:30.000 The suspect lied about his true identity, denied any knowledge of the crimes, for which he is wanted.

00:27:35.000 When they ran his information to the authorities, they found he was wanted in connection with a rape in Maryland.

00:27:40.000 He faces charges of first-degree murder and first-degree rape in that case.

00:27:43.000 But as it turns out, he is suspected of multiple crimes since he illegally crossed the border into the United States in February 2023.

00:27:49.000 One of those crimes is the murder of Rachel Morin, who was killed along a hiking trail in Bel Air in August of 2023.

00:27:56.000 Apparently, Rachel was not his first victim.

00:27:59.000 And according to the police, this person fled to the United States illegally after committing a brutal murder of a young woman in El Salvador a month earlier in January.

00:28:09.000 So how exactly did this person get into the country?

00:28:12.000 That has not been made clear at this point.

00:28:13.000 Did he just show up at the border and claim asylum and they let him right in?

00:28:16.000 Did he cross between points of entry?

00:28:18.000 Unclear at this point.

00:28:20.000 Alejandro Mayorkas of the Department of Homeland Security denied culpability of Rachel Moran.

00:28:25.000 Here he was.

00:28:27.000 What do you say to critics who blame the administration for allowing something like this to happen?

00:28:32.000 Obviously, this is something that you hear in right-wing media all the time.

00:28:38.000 Jim, first and foremost, of course, our hearts break for the children, the family, the loved ones, the friends of the individual who was the woman, the mother.

00:28:55.000 Jim, a criminal is responsible for the criminal act.

00:29:03.000 The criminal who committed this heinous act should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law and forcefully so.

00:29:13.000 That is my response.

00:29:15.000 So his response is, the criminal's responsible, yes.

00:29:17.000 But who opened the door to the criminal, Alejandro?

00:29:20.000 Who let him in the country?

00:29:21.000 That's the entire question here, especially as Joe Biden now pursues a mass amnesty.

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00:30:29.000 According to the Wall Street Journal editorial board, cynicism, thy new name, is immigration politics.

00:30:34.000 And President Biden is proving it again with his Tuesday announcement he will bestow legal status on the undocumented spouses and children of U.S.

00:30:39.000 citizens.

00:30:40.000 The order might be illegal.

00:30:41.000 It could be reversed by a new president next year.

00:30:42.000 It will further poison the immigration debate.

00:30:44.000 But hey, any port in an election year storm.

00:30:46.000 The plan offers a new path to citizenship for an estimated half million migrants who entered the country illegally but are now married to U.S.

00:30:52.000 citizens.

00:30:53.000 The Department of Homeland Security says this will apply to anyone who has lived in the country for 10 years as of Monday, is married to an American and poses no security or criminal threat.

00:31:01.000 Some 50,000 children of these spouses will also be eligible for citizenship.

00:31:07.000 So as the Wall Street Journal points out, This order is legally uncertain and might boomerang on spouses who apply for legal status.

00:31:13.000 Biden is asserting an authority known as Parole in Place, which allows DHS to let illegal immigrants remain in the United States while they apply for citizenship.

00:31:21.000 The statute specifies it can only be prescribed on a case-by-case basis for urgent humanitarian or significant public reasons.

00:31:28.000 The administration says it allows blanket parole.

00:31:31.000 So he is effectively now daring the Republicans to basically try to deport these people.

00:31:37.000 That is the goal, according to Politico, like openly the goal of the Biden administration.

00:31:40.000 This is all just bait.

00:31:42.000 According to Politico, Joe Biden on Tuesday unveiled major new actions, but in issuing a new policy granting legal protections to undocumented spouses, the president was trying to lure Donald Trump into a very specific debate too.

00:31:53.000 Inside Biden's team, advisors are betting that the new policies unveiled at the White House on Tuesday will reignite a larger conversation about one of the most controversial chapters of the Trump era, the separation of families on the southern border.

00:32:02.000 Now, as you recall, it was Barack Obama who originally put the kids in cages.

00:32:07.000 It turns out that under the Flores Settlement, families cannot be held together in custody, so children are generally released into the interior of the United States to a family member, maybe, we hope, and then the parents are kept in custody if they immigrate illegally.

00:32:21.000 Now, Joe Biden is attempting to dare Trump to get into this.

00:32:25.000 The problem for Joe Biden is I'm not sure this is a political winner.

00:32:27.000 I mean, the reality is that most Americans are just not all that interested in Joe Biden's sympathy-first approach to illegal immigration.

00:32:37.000 Joe Biden advisor Tom Perez, he says this immigration policy is incredibly smart.

00:32:41.000 Of course, of course.

00:32:43.000 What makes the White House confident that this plan is going to survive legal scrutiny and actually go into effect later this summer when so many other immigration plans from Trump, from Obama, have been struck down by the courts?

00:32:57.000 Well, I think it's the right thing to do, it's the legal thing to do, and it's the smart thing to do.

00:33:01.000 What the president did two weeks ago was to secure the border because we have to both secure the border and provide lawful pathways.

00:33:10.000 That's what a balanced approach is all about.

00:33:14.000 Well, I mean, a balanced approach would involve closing the border, which is the thing that you are not, in fact, doing.

00:33:19.000 You can tell how radical this program is by who is backing it.

00:33:22.000 Pramila Jayapal, who's the head of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, and a far-left radical, she says this is the biggest thing that we've seen in the United States since DACA.

00:33:30.000 Not shockingly, DACA also happened to happen in the middle of the 2012 election.

00:33:34.000 This is huge.

00:33:35.000 Talk about how President Biden got from that previous executive order, which a lot of immigration

00:33:42.000 advocacy groups denounced to this.

00:33:44.000 Yes, well, it is huge.

00:33:46.000 It is the biggest thing that we have seen since DACA in terms of protections for people.

00:33:51.000 Half a million people, Joy.

00:33:53.000 And these are folks who are married to U.S. citizens, have been here for at least 10 years,

00:33:58.000 have U.S. citizen children in some cases, not in some cases.

00:34:02.000 And to be able to say to them, President Biden is keeping your family together.

00:34:05.000 He is making sure that you do not have to leave the country and go through some arcane

00:34:09.000 process and maybe not be able to get back and not even be able to get back in, which

00:34:12.000 is why most people didn't do it, because I didn't have that guarantee.

00:34:15.000 OK, so Joe Biden wants to engage in this conversation.

00:34:17.000 I'm just telling you, that's not how this conversation is going to go.

00:34:20.000 Maryland Governor Wes Moore, who's deeply involved with the Biden campaign, he was asked about the killing of Rachel Moran.

00:34:27.000 And he says, well, yeah, it turns out that the migration crisis is really affecting Americans all the way across the spectrum, including in Democratic states.

00:34:35.000 When people think about the border crisis and they think that this is only impacting a handful of states, you know, Hartford County, in our state, where this, where this, where this brutal happened, is 1,800 miles away from the border.

00:34:48.000 And so when people think this is only impacting a few states, this is impacting every single one of us.

00:34:52.000 This inaction that we continue to see to get any form of sensible immigration policy done is impacting all of us, because all of us in local jurisdictions deal with the consequence to this.

00:35:03.000 Again, that is a Democrat, and that's going to be the actual argument.

00:35:06.000 The argument's going to be about Lake and Riley, and it's going to be about Rachel Warren, and it is not going to be about the immigration status of people who are already living in the country and have been doing so for a very long time.

00:35:17.000 Because it turns out the top of the heap for people's concerns about illegal immigration is first close the border, and then decide who gets to stay and who gets to go.

00:35:25.000 One of the things I notice whenever Joe Biden will roll out a proposal like this, he'll bring up a dreamer, some kid who was born in Mexico or something and arrived in the United States illegally at the age of three and then grew up and became a nurse.

00:35:37.000 And the answer to that is, OK, that person can stay, but the person who's on welfare cannot.

00:35:42.000 It turns out that the United States does have the single capacity to go through all the people who have illegally immigrated and decide whether they are of net benefit to the United States and its population or whether they are not.

00:35:53.000 Senator Joni Ernst correctly points out that Joe Biden is rolling out the red carpet for

00:35:56.000 once again, President Biden has rolled out the red carpet for illegal migrants.

00:36:05.000 So we're hearing the double speak again.

00:36:09.000 Out of one side of his mouth, he's saying, look at me, I'm doing an executive order.

00:36:15.000 We're going to control the border.

00:36:17.000 And then on the other hand now, he's offering basically mass amnesty to hundreds of thousands of illegal migrants that are currently within the country.

00:36:31.000 Again, you're gonna get more and more of these stories leading up to the election.

00:36:34.000 Because it turns out that when you let millions of people through the border unvetted, some of those people are going to be criminals.

00:36:39.000 And when you hear the argument that illegal immigrants have a lower crime rate than kind of natural born American citizens, the answer to that is, so what?

00:36:46.000 What does that have to do with anything? 0.99

00:36:49.000 That's a stupid argument because we are not saying that they have a natural right to be in the United States. 0.99

00:36:54.000 We're saying there should be zero crimes from the people that we voluntarily allow to be in the United States. 0.99

00:37:00.000 Meanwhile, on the international front, everything seems to be collapsing around Joe Biden because it turns out that weakness in the foreign realm is quickly met with strength by America's enemies.

00:37:11.000 Yesterday, Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un signed an agreement that pledges mutual aid if either country faces aggression, a strategic pact that comes as they face escalating standoffs with the West.

00:37:22.000 I'm unclear exactly what the details of the deal are.

00:37:25.000 Both leaders are describing it as a major upgrade in their relations.

00:37:28.000 So to all of those people on both right and left who seem to be standing for Russia these days, I'll just point out that they are the ones who are allied with an absolute hellhole slave state called North Korea on the one hand, and then another hellhole slave state called China on the other. 0.80

00:37:43.000 It turns out in the world there are some bad guys and there are some good guys, and Vladimir Putin is not one of the good guys.

00:37:49.000 The summit came as Vladimir Putin visited North Korea for the first time in 24 years, and the U.S.

00:37:52.000 and its allies expressed growing concern over a possible arms arrangement in which Pyongyang provides Moscow with badly needed munitions for its war in Ukraine in exchange for economic assistance and technology transfers that could enhance the threat posed by Kim's nuclear weapons and missile program.

00:38:06.000 Now, one of the things that's truly amazing about the modern world is that most of the countries we would consider allied countries are countries that rely extraordinarily heavily on tech, like real battlefield tech.

00:38:18.000 You're talking about high-tech drones, you are talking about JDAMs, you're talking about laser-guided munitions, you know, all sorts of sophisticated weaponry that are specifically designed in order not to waste shots and really to, in the main, distinguish military from civilian targets.

00:38:35.000 And meanwhile, Vladimir Putin, North Korea, these folks, they don't care.

00:38:39.000 They're using really, really cheap munitions against really, really sophisticated and extraordinarily expensive munition.

00:38:46.000 And so the order of battle over time is going to change radically in favor of the people who are fighting a more basic form of warfare because they don't care about these things.

00:38:57.000 And let's better just acknowledge that reality.

00:38:59.000 It's true in Israel. 0.81

00:39:00.000 It's true in Ukraine.

00:39:01.000 It's true pretty much everywhere.

00:39:02.000 When the bad guys are willing to kill their civilians and yours, and you are spending extraordinary amounts of money, yes, you're doing the more moral thing in order to not kill their civilians, the civilians they're hiding behind, and in many cases sympathize with them.

00:39:15.000 But by the same token, that requires a higher level of willpower and a higher level of expenditure.

00:39:21.000 And that's just the way that it's going to have to work.

00:39:23.000 Because it turns out that Russia can churn out munitions like nobody's business so long as they are World War II era munitions. 0.73

00:39:29.000 And originally the theory of the war was that Ukraine's technological advantage would allow it to fight Russia to a standstill.

00:39:35.000 But it turns out that Russia's way of war has always been to grind down its opponents through extraordinary use of bloody brutality to its own soldiers and others.

00:39:45.000 So that is consolidation number one between Russia and North Korea.

00:39:50.000 Meanwhile, Xi Jinping has been purging his own military.

00:39:53.000 Supposedly he's doing so to fight corruption.

00:39:55.000 In reality, the reason that Xi Jinping does anything is to consolidate his own power.

00:39:59.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, Chinese leader Xi Jinping ordered a redoubled campaign to eradicate graft and enforce loyalty in the military.

00:40:05.000 It's really about enforcing loyalty.

00:40:06.000 Suggesting no end to a purge in the country's defense establishment that has raised questions about Beijing's ability to wage war.

00:40:13.000 She used the first military political war conference in a decade to warn against the dangers of corruption and ideological slippage in the PLA.

00:40:19.000 That's the People's Liberation Army cautioning that decaying discipline could torpedo efforts to field a fighting force capable of taking on powerful Western militaries.

00:40:28.000 He said the gun barrel must always be grasped by people who are loyal and reliable to the party.

00:40:32.000 So he's tightening his grip on the party.

00:40:34.000 Again, as China enters a state of serious economic and demographic decline, they become more dangerous, not less. 0.92

00:40:39.000 Meanwhile, Iran is signaling its own major boost in a nuclear program at a key site.

00:40:45.000 All of this is perfectly foreseeable.

00:40:46.000 It turns out that when the United States draws a major contrast between itself and its allies in the Middle East, and that's not just Israel, it's also Saudi Arabia, basically everybody who's been boxing in Iran, it turns out Iran gets pretty frisky, as they've been doing at Israel's northern border, as they've been doing via Hamas, as they've been doing via the Houthis, as they've been doing directly from Iran when they sent 300-odd missiles at Israel, as they've been doing from Iraq. 0.66

00:41:09.000 They've been activating their forces everywhere in the region, and now they're upping the ante on their nuclear program, which is weird because I was informed by the Biden administration that they were going to be able to come in and cut a deal with those nice Iranians.

00:41:19.000 The absolute level of naivete of the foreign policy establishment on the left is, it's truly awesome to behold.

00:41:25.000 It is an awe-inspiring thing.

00:41:27.000 The belief that the Iranians, they're just, you know, a little misguided, but you can negotiate with them, and they're going to come to an agreement because, you know, you negotiate with people you disagree with.

00:41:36.000 Well, yes, and then the negotiations fail when the people you disagree with actually want to murder you and your family.

00:41:41.000 It turns out it's very difficult to come up with a negotiating tactic that ends that particular demand.

00:41:46.000 According to the Washington Post, a major expansion underway inside Iran's most heavily protected nuclear facility could soon triple the site's production of enriched uranium and give Tehran new options for quickly assembling a nuclear arsenal if it chooses to, according to confidential documents and analysis by weapons experts.

00:42:01.000 Inspectors with the IAEA confirmed new construction activity inside the Fordow enrichment plant just days after Tehran formally notified the nuclear washrock of plans for a substantial upgrade at the underground facility built inside a mountain in north-central Iran.

00:42:15.000 Iran also disclosed plans for expanding production at its main enrichment plant near the center of Natanz.

00:42:18.000 Now, why are they doing this?

00:42:19.000 Why are they publicly saying they're doing this?

00:42:21.000 The answer is because they believe that the more they publicly threaten, the more the Biden administration will put pressure on Israel.

00:42:27.000 That's what they believe.

00:42:28.000 And they're not wrong.

00:42:29.000 They believe that so long as they ratchet up the pressure, From Hezbollah, that the thing that Joe Biden wants more than anything else is not to have an ongoing war in the Middle East, and he doesn't have a lot of leverage with Hezbollah, he doesn't have a lot of leverage with Hamas, he doesn't have a lot of leverage with Iran, but he does have some leverage with the Israelis.

00:42:46.000 Because he can simply hold them back in the middle of a war where young Israelis are going and losing limbs and dying in order to defend their homeland.

00:42:53.000 It's like an amazing, amazing thing.

00:42:54.000 Donald Trump is not wrong when he says that Joe Biden is humiliating us on the world stage.

00:42:57.000 That is absolutely true.

00:43:00.000 Joe Biden is humiliating our country on the world stage.

00:43:03.000 He's actually humiliating us.

00:43:06.000 You saw what happened this weekend.

00:43:09.000 It's turning the United States into a total joke all over the world.

00:43:14.000 He is absolutely right about that.

00:43:15.000 And what is the comeback of the Biden administration?

00:43:17.000 So you have Putin meeting with Kim Jong-un.

00:43:21.000 You have Xi on the move.

00:43:23.000 You have the Iranian mullahs who are openly declaring that they are moving forward with their nuclear weapons development.

00:43:28.000 Hezbollah, the head of which, Nasrallah, just gave a speech yesterday in which he declared that he would effectively destroy the state of Israel if he's threatened, which is a bluff tactic because if he actually thought he could do it, he would actually go ahead and do it.

00:43:40.000 You have Hamas still declaring they will not give up hostages in order to gain even a temporary ceasefire.

00:43:45.000 And meanwhile, what is the comeback of the Biden administration?

00:43:48.000 Donald Trump's a mean man who's orange. 0.87

00:43:50.000 He's just mean. 0.98

00:43:50.000 He's orange. 0.98

00:43:52.000 John Meacham, whatever is the opposite of par excellence, he is the historian opposite of par excellence.

00:43:56.000 John Meacham.

00:43:57.000 But greatly admired by the Biden administration because he keeps pretending that Joe Biden is some sort of FDR-like figure.

00:44:02.000 He says the real problem in this presidential race is that Trump admires authoritarianism.

00:44:06.000 By the way, Trump does not quote-unquote admire authoritarianism.

00:44:09.000 What he acknowledges is that authoritarians are typically savvy players who pursue their interests with strength and alacrity.

00:44:17.000 And that's why you have to face up to them.

00:44:19.000 It's why you have to threaten them.

00:44:20.000 It's why you have to use all the methods at your disposal.

00:44:22.000 As opposed to Joe Biden, who thinks authoritarians are basically nice people who can be massaged into the right positions.

00:44:29.000 Here's Jon Meacham. 0.98

00:44:30.000 Again, this is all, it's such foolishness. 0.94

00:44:32.000 The most concerning part of that alliance is that Donald Trump considers himself to be close friends with every one of those tyrants. 0.81

00:44:41.000 That's not true.

00:44:42.000 That's the picture that we should all focus on right now.

00:44:47.000 Arguably the most important part of this unfolding political campaign is that the Republican nominee wants to be in that frame.

00:44:58.000 He wants to be walking through squares like that.

00:45:03.000 By his own admission, he admires that.

00:45:06.000 He admires the authoritarianism, he admires the toughness No, he just acknowledges what they are.

00:45:14.000 And he knows that you guys don't understand them, which is certainly true.

00:45:17.000 The reality is that the left, they've all become Jane Fonda.

00:45:19.000 It used to be, there was a time when the foreign policy establishment among Democrats was significantly tougher than it is today.

00:45:26.000 When people like Zell Miller or Scoop Jackson were Democrats.

00:45:29.000 And now it turns out the foreign policy establishment is basically Noam Chomsky and Jane Fonda inside the Democratic Party.

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00:46:38.000 Here's Jane Fonda's explanation for why she won. 1.00

00:46:41.000 I love that Jane Fonda's on CNN.

00:46:43.000 I mean, again, from Hanoi, standing alongside anti-aircraft guns of the of the Viet Cong to CNN in just a few short

00:46:57.000 decades.

00:46:57.000 Here is Jane Fonda explaining that if Orange Man Bad wins next

00:47:00.000 November, it'll be worse for not for the world, not for not for

00:47:03.000 the United States, for the Palestinians.

00:47:05.000 If Orange Man Bad wins.

00:47:06.000 I think that that President Biden is trying to.

00:47:11.000 Protect Israel, be loyal to Israel, and at the same time demand a ceasefire, demand that the bombing stop, that the 0.85

00:47:22.000 children stop being killed.

00:47:23.000 I think he's doing both.

00:47:28.000 But I understand the anguish of the protesters.

00:47:30.000 I can't say that I know what he should do differently, because I don't understand the situation well enough.

00:47:35.000 Jane Fonda, we always appreciate speaking with you.

00:47:37.000 All I know is... Go ahead.

00:47:41.000 Well, just one other thing.

00:47:42.000 If the Orange Man wins next November, it's going to be much worse for Palestinians.

00:47:49.000 I can say that.

00:47:51.000 Well, at least you are making your priorities clear, Jane Fonda.

00:47:55.000 Already coming up, we are going to talk about Joe Biden's losing strategy.

00:48:00.000 Even members of his own party are now saying, dude, you got a problem.

00:48:03.000 We'll get to that in a moment.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 20, 2024

Bring BACK The Ten Commandments in Schools

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