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00:00:00.000 Well, folks, we are now less than two weeks out from Election Day.

00:00:03.000 Donald Trump appears to have the lead going into the homestretch here, and that means it has come.

00:00:08.000 The October surprise.

00:00:09.000 We'll get to that in one second.

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00:00:28.000 Alrighty, so the state of the race.

00:00:29.000 We need to explain the state of the race because otherwise, the October surprise doesn't make a lot of sense.

00:00:33.000 The state of the race is that Donald Trump appears to be ahead going into the homestretch.

00:00:37.000 In fact, poll analyst reporter Mark Halperin yesterday said as much.

00:00:42.000 He said that if the early voting numbers hold up the way they are right now, And if the same day voting, the day of voting, goes the way that it did in 2020, Donald Trump will have wrapped up this election before the election day even begins.

00:00:55.000 Because basically, Democrats need to win it in the pregame or they're going to lose it day of.

00:00:59.000 Here's Mark Halperin explaining just yesterday.

00:01:02.000 Good morning, everybody.

00:01:04.000 Let's lead with the lead, as they say in journalism.

00:01:06.000 If the early vote numbers stay the way they are, and that's a big if, we'll almost certainly know before election day who's going to win the election.

00:01:14.000 We're going to talk a lot about that.

00:01:16.000 The reasons why Democrats might be underperforming, the prospect that they'll recover.

00:01:21.000 But again, make no mistake, if these numbers hold up, in the states where we can understand even partially what the data's like, we'll know that Donald Trump's going to be president on Election Day.

00:01:33.000 And Halperin's not the only one saying this.

00:01:35.000 The Washington Post reported yesterday dozens of states have opened in-person early voting locations.

00:01:39.000 Turnout has been robust.

00:01:40.000 In Georgia, more than 1.6 million people had cast in-person ballots by mid-morning on Tuesday.

00:01:45.000 Nearly one-third of the total vote from four years ago.

00:01:47.000 North Carolina hit 1.4 million on Tuesday to the sixth day of early voting.

00:01:51.000 In Nevada, Republicans voting in person have outnumbered Democrats, which is an amazing reversal from four years ago.

00:01:57.000 Nationwide, over 18 million Americans have already cast ballots in person or by mail.

00:02:02.000 Republican participation is radically up from where it was in 2020, when Donald Trump encouraged people not to vote early.

00:02:10.000 Now, tons of Republicans are voting early.

00:02:12.000 And what that means is that in states like Nevada, there are serious danger signs for Democrats.

00:02:16.000 According to John Ralston of the Nevada Independent, he's an excellent reporter over there.

00:02:19.000 Breitbart reports this.

00:02:21.000 He's been reporting the early vote numbers showing a GOP lead and flashed a warning to Democrats late Monday evening out west.

00:02:27.000 Ralston noted that since the rise of the political machine that late former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid built for Democrats, this has never happened.

00:02:33.000 The Republicans have opened what amounts to an unprecedented in modern times lead in early voting over Democrats in Nevada.

00:02:40.000 So Kamala Harris is running really, really weak in the early voting thus far.

00:02:44.000 Now, again, it could be that that's cannibalizing the day of voting.

00:02:47.000 It's possible that the people who are voting right now are people who would have voted Election Day normally.

00:02:51.000 Or it's possible that Republicans have actually gotten smart.

00:02:55.000 And many of the people who weren't going to show up on Election Day are now voting early just to get it done.

00:03:01.000 By the way, if you are voting early, that is a good thing.

00:03:04.000 Voting early is good because the party for which you are voting can see that you have voted.

00:03:09.000 They don't have to waste campaign resources going to your door and door knocking you if they already know that you voted.

00:03:14.000 A senior official working on Harris's campaign is already sounding the alarm about the Veep's narrowing electoral path.

00:03:19.000 According to NBC News, three sources with knowledge of the campaign strategy say the campaign is worried the blue wall could at least in part go red this November.

00:03:27.000 One senior campaign official OK, if they lose North Carolina and they lose, say, Michigan or Wisconsin, very difficult to see how the Democrats win the election because they would have to, at that point, peel off Georgia.

00:03:46.000 And Georgia looks like it is moving steadily toward Donald Trump in this electoral cycle.

00:03:52.000 Politico saying the same thing.

00:03:54.000 They're pointing out that the time is ticking off the clock for Kamala Harris.

00:03:58.000 Quote, Vice President Kamala Harris and former Wyoming Representative Liz Cheney descended on the crucial Milwaukee suburbs Monday night and sitting side by side delivered compelling political sermons.

00:04:07.000 The problem was they were preaching to the converted.

00:04:09.000 The event was explicitly aimed at moderates and one-time Republicans who remain up for grabs and may decide the election, but the rhetoric seemed better suited for those in the audience wearing Lincoln Project and Kamala t-shirts.

00:04:22.000 They've got a problem on their hands.

00:04:24.000 And so it is now time to pull out all the stops.

00:04:27.000 It's now time to pull out all the stops.

00:04:30.000 So there are a couple of ways to do this.

00:04:32.000 One would be for Kamala Harris to run a better campaign. 1.00

00:04:34.000 That, of course, is very, very unlikely.

00:04:37.000 Very unlikely she's going to run a better campaign because she's not a good candidate. 1.00

00:04:42.000 Hilariously, there was an op-ed in The Hill two days ago wondering if perhaps Joe Biden was, after all, a better candidate than Kamala Harris.

00:04:48.000 Which, of course, is what Joe Biden has been saying all along despite being dead.

00:04:51.000 Kamala Harris, for her part, can't even answer simple questions as to whether Joe Biden is sentient and alive.

00:04:58.000 She will not answer questions on the decline of the person she shoved off the back of the train and stole his nomination.

00:05:03.000 Here she was in a clip from NBC News trying to explain Joe Biden's mental state.

00:05:08.000 This is their candidate.

00:05:12.000 You have made it clear that you believe this is a binary choice between you and Donald Trump.

00:05:16.000 Those are the candidates on the ballot.

00:05:17.000 There's only two choices.

00:05:18.000 And I know that Joe Biden is not on the ballot.

00:05:20.000 I understand that.

00:05:21.000 But the reason that you are at the top of the ticket is because he dropped out of this race.

00:05:24.000 And so I want to ask you, and it was largely because of that debate performance back in June.

00:05:29.000 You defended him in the days before and in the days after as you were campaigning for another four years for President Biden.

00:05:36.000 Can you say that you were honest with the American people about what you saw in those moments with President Biden as you were with him again and again repeatedly in that time?

00:05:44.000 Of course.

00:05:45.000 Joe Biden is an extremely accomplished, experienced, and capable in every way that anyone would want if they're president.

00:06:01.000 You never saw anything like what happened at the debate night behind closed doors with him?

00:06:05.000 It was a bad debate.

00:06:06.000 People have bad debates.

00:06:07.000 He is absolutely...

00:06:10.000 That's the reason why you're here and he's not running for the top of the ticket.

00:06:15.000 Well, you'd have to ask him if that's the only reason why.

00:06:18.000 What do you think?

00:06:20.000 I am running for president of the United States.

00:06:22.000 Joe Biden is not.

00:06:24.000 And my presidency will be about bringing A new generation of leadership to America that is focused on the work that we need to do to invest in the ambitions and aspirations of the American people.

00:06:40.000 This lady has absolutely nothing. 1.00

00:06:41.000 The reason that she has lost all steam is because she's got nothing.

00:06:45.000 She can't even answer the simple question, why are you in that chair and Joe Biden isn't in that chair?

00:06:49.000 When everyone in America knows the answer to that question, including, of course, Kamala Harris.

00:06:53.000 So now she's basically been relegated to throwing out bribes to various constituency groups. 1.00

00:06:59.000 So just a couple of weeks ago, she pledged that she was going to hand out a million, basically, grants of 20 grand to black people.

00:07:09.000 This is going to be forgivable loans.

00:07:10.000 Well, now she's doing the same thing for, wait for it, Latinos, because she's been losing the Latino vote. 1.00

00:07:14.000 She put out a statement yesterday, quote, Donald Trump has disrespected and insulted Latino men and communities.

00:07:19.000 As president, I will invest in them.

00:07:21.000 What does that mean?

00:07:22.000 It means that she will help Latino men and others start and grow small businesses with no interest loans or deferred loan repayments and fully forgivable loans up to $20,000.

00:07:30.000 So just bribery now.

00:07:31.000 We are now in the realm of open bribery.

00:07:34.000 By the way, you are not allowed to give out government grants by race.

00:07:37.000 That is illegal in the United States.

00:07:40.000 So this is her campaign, and it's failing.

00:07:42.000 And so now, now has the time come for the October surprises.

00:07:48.000 The Democrats have a problem when it comes to October surprises with Donald Trump.

00:07:51.000 This has been true for years and years and years and years. 1.00

00:07:53.000 Donald Trump is a monster made out of mud. 1.00

00:07:55.000 And when you throw more mud at a monster made out of mud, it turns out he just looks like a monster made out of mud. 1.00

00:08:01.000 Donald Trump is the black socks of presidential candidates. 0.99

00:08:04.000 Black socks, they never get dirty. 0.99

00:08:06.000 The longer you wear them, the blacker they get. 0.99

00:08:08.000 That is who Donald Trump is.

00:08:10.000 The more you throw at him, the more he just looks like Donald Trump because he is the most well-established political figure in the American mind in my lifetime and my parents' lifetime as well.

00:08:20.000 There is no one in America who does not have an opinion about Donald Trump.

00:08:23.000 Right now, the question is not for undecided voters what they think about Donald Trump.

00:08:27.000 The question is what they think about Kamala Harris.

00:08:29.000 Donald Trump's numbers have been incredibly steady for the entirety of this election cycle.

00:08:34.000 If you look at the national polling, Donald Trump's national average polling has been between 46% and 48% the entirety of this entire race.

00:08:42.000 The entire race.

00:08:44.000 If you go back to when Joe Biden was in the race, Donald Trump was at 47%.

00:08:48.000 At his height, he was at 48.1%.

00:08:50.000 Today, he's at 48.3% in the real clear politics polling average.

00:08:54.000 He has never been below 46.

00:08:56.000 He has never been above 48.

00:08:58.000 He's absolutely steady.

00:09:00.000 Kamala Harris, by contrast, she has gone down.

00:09:03.000 She has gone up.

00:09:04.000 Right before she jumped into the race, she was in the high 30s.

00:09:08.000 Then she jumped into the mid 40s.

00:09:10.000 Now she's still in the upper 40s. 1.00

00:09:11.000 She could go back down again.

00:09:13.000 There's a lot more variability for Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:09:15.000 And this is why I say that Donald Trump appears to have the advantage in the race because any news that breaks is likely to change opinions about her, not about him.

00:09:22.000 So Democrats are getting desperate and they're pulling out all the stops and they've gone back to the well.

00:09:27.000 They've gone back to the well. 0.99

00:09:28.000 They've gone to their favorite Obama stenographer, a man with his head so far up Barack Obama's ass that he could actually spot polyps in Obama's colon without a colonoscopy, Jeffrey Goldberg. 0.99

00:09:38.000 Jeffrey Goldberg is the editor of The Atlantic. 0.99

00:09:40.000 The Atlantic is owned by the former wife of Steve Jobs.

00:09:44.000 He's a big Kamala Harris donor.

00:09:46.000 The Atlantic also happens to be a place that is trotted out Absolutely moral, morally repugnant human beings like Ta-Nehisi Coates and treated them as moral exemplars.

00:09:57.000 The Atlantic, of course, and Goldberg in particular has trotted out lines about Donald Trump that have been unverified before. 0.98

00:10:04.000 You'll recall that back in 2020, it was Jeffrey Goldberg who trotted out the suckers and losers line about Donald Trump. 0.98

00:10:11.000 It was Jeffrey Goldberg who retailed the story that Donald Trump had gone to Normandy and then claimed that dead soldiers at Normandy Beach were suckers and losers. 0.98

00:10:19.000 And everybody around Trump was like, he never said that. 0.98

00:10:21.000 And Jeffrey Goldberg ran with it anyway.

00:10:23.000 He had promised on cable news that he would provide some verification for the story.

00:10:26.000 Well, now he's back and he is better than ever.

00:10:26.000 He never did.

00:10:29.000 There's a story at the Atlantic in which Donald Trump is cursing the family of a dead soldier of Latino descent For the great crime of having submitted a bill for him to pay for a funeral for this person.

00:10:44.000 So I'm going to read you this story, and then you'll see how it's being treated by the media.

00:10:48.000 Now, there is no evidence this story is true.

00:10:50.000 Let us be clear.

00:10:51.000 He is basing this entire story on, once again, anonymous sources.

00:10:51.000 There is no evidence.

00:10:55.000 And there is no reason to grant anonymity in these particular discussions.

00:10:58.000 You're talking about the most grave accusation of the election cycle.

00:11:02.000 He's granting anonymity to his sources.

00:11:03.000 And we know from history that if you are the person who reveals this, it doesn't ruin your life.

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00:11:18.000 Buy the Bill Gateses and George Soroses of the world if you come out today and levy this kind of accusation against Donald Trump to Jeffrey Goldberg.

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00:13:45.000 So here is Jeffrey Goldberg's nonsense story.

00:13:48.000 Quote, Shortly after her remains were discovered, President Trump himself invited the Guillen family to the White House.

00:14:16.000 With Guillen's mother seated beside him, Trump spent 25 minutes with the family as television cameras recorded the scene.

00:14:21.000 In the meeting, Trump maintained a dignified posture and expressed sympathy to Guillen's mother.

00:14:25.000 Quote, I saw what happened to your daughter, Vanessa, who was a spectacular person and respected and loved by everybody, including in the military, Trump said.

00:14:31.000 Later in the conversation, he made a promise.

00:14:32.000 If I can help you out with the funeral, I'll help.

00:14:34.000 I'll help you with that.

00:14:35.000 I'll help you out financially.

00:14:36.000 I'll help you out.

00:14:38.000 Natalie Kalam, according to The Atlantic, is the family's attorney and responded, I think the military will be paying, taking care of it.

00:14:42.000 And Trump replied, good.

00:14:43.000 They'll do a military.

00:14:44.000 That's good.

00:14:45.000 If you need help, I'll help you out.

00:14:46.000 Later, a reporter covering the meeting asked Trump, have you offered to do that for other families before?

00:14:50.000 And Trump responded, I have.

00:14:51.000 Personally, I have to do it.

00:14:52.000 Personally, I can't do it through the government.

00:14:53.000 The reporter then asked, so you've written checks to help for other families before this.

00:14:57.000 Trump turned to the family still present and said, I have, I have, because some families need help.

00:15:01.000 Maybe you don't need help from a financial standpoint.

00:15:02.000 I have no idea.

00:15:03.000 I think it's a horrific thing that happened.

00:15:04.000 If you did need help, I'm going to.

00:15:06.000 I'll be there to help you.

00:15:08.000 A public memorial service was held in Houston two weeks after the White House meeting.

00:15:11.000 It was followed by a private funeral and burial in a local cemetery.

00:15:14.000 Highways were shut down.

00:15:15.000 Mourners lined the streets.

00:15:16.000 Five months later, and here's where we get to the dicey part.

00:15:18.000 Five months later, the Secretary of the Army, Ryan McCarthy, announced the results of an investigation.

00:15:22.000 McCarthy cited numerous leadership failures at Fort Hood and relieved or suspended several officers, including the base's commanding general.

00:15:28.000 In a press conference, McCarthy said the murder shocked our conscience and forced us to take a critical look at our systems, our policies, and ourselves.

00:15:35.000 According to a person close to Trump at the time, the president was agitated by McCarthy's comments and raised questions about the severity of the punishments dispensed to senior officers and non-commissioned officers.

00:15:44.000 In an Oval Office meeting on December 4, 2020, officials gathered to discuss a separate national security issue.

00:15:49.000 Toward the end of the discussion, Trump asked for an update on the McCarthy investigation.

00:15:53.000 Christopher Miller, the acting secretary of defense, was in attendance, along with Miller's chief of staff, Kash Patel.

00:16:00.000 At a certain point, according to two people present at the meeting, Trump asked, did they bill us for the funeral?

00:16:03.000 What did it cost?

00:16:04.000 According to attendees and to contemporaneous notes of the meeting, an aide answered, yes, we received a bill.

00:16:09.000 The funeral cost $60,000.

00:16:11.000 Trump became angry.

00:16:12.000 Quote, it doesn't cost $60,000 to bury an effing Mexican. 1.00

00:16:15.000 That is the takeaway quote.

00:16:18.000 He then supposedly turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order, don't pay it.

00:16:21.000 Later that day, he was still agitated.

00:16:23.000 Can you believe it?

00:16:24.000 Effing people trying to rip me off.

00:16:27.000 Kalam, according to Goldberg, the family attorney, told Goldberg she sent the bill to the White House that no money was ever received by the family from Trump.

00:16:33.000 Some of the costs, Kalam said, were covered by the army.

00:16:37.000 Some were covered by donations.

00:16:38.000 Ultimately, Guillen was buried in Houston.

00:16:41.000 Okay, so that's the story, right?

00:16:42.000 This is the bombshell story.

00:16:43.000 And this is all of a piece with Jeffrey Goldberg's take on Donald Trump, which is that Donald Trump has scorned for the American military.

00:16:50.000 Now, this is a very, very weird accusation to make about Donald Trump, because the reality is that Donald Trump, with members of the military, is terrific.

00:16:57.000 If you go and see him with members of the military, this dude likes members of our military.

00:17:02.000 He cares for members of our military.

00:17:05.000 This is somebody who has gone out of his way to talk about strengthening the American military in a way that Democrats never would.

00:17:13.000 And yet the attack on Trump is that somehow deep in his heart, not only does he hate the American military, this is like the intersectional apotheosis of accusations about Donald Trump.

00:17:21.000 He hates the military, which means he's unpatriotic. 0.73

00:17:23.000 And also he hates Mexicans who were murdered. 0.99

00:17:26.000 He hates female Mexicans who were murdered, according to The Atlantic, according to Jeffrey Goldberg. 0.98

00:17:31.000 Now, I've read you the story. 0.76

00:17:33.000 There is a problem with the story.

00:17:35.000 The only record that Jeffrey Goldberg can come up with with regard to the story is from anonymous sources.

00:17:41.000 Every other person who is mentioned in the story denies the story.

00:17:45.000 Everyone.

00:17:47.000 Hey, so who are these people?

00:17:50.000 So, for example, there is the sister of the slain woman whose name is Myra Guillen.

00:17:54.000 Quote, she tweeted this.

00:17:55.000 Wow, I don't appreciate how you are exploiting my sister's death for politics.

00:17:59.000 Hurtful and disrespectful to the important changes she made for service members.

00:18:02.000 President Donald Trump did nothing but show respect to my family and Vanessa.

00:18:05.000 In fact, I voted for President Trump today.

00:18:09.000 How about Mark Meadows, whose chief of staff, Kash Patel, is supposedly in this meeting?

00:18:13.000 Quote, I was in the discussions featured in the Atlantic's latest hit piece against President Trump.

00:18:17.000 Let me say this.

00:18:18.000 Any suggestion President Trump disparaged Ms. 1.00

00:18:20.000 Guillen or refused to pay for her funeral expenses is absolutely false.

00:18:23.000 He was nothing but kind, gracious, and wanted to make sure the military and the U.S. government did right by Vanessa Guillen and her family.

00:18:30.000 But wait, there's more.

00:18:33.000 Ben Williamson, the spokesman for Mark Meadows, said, quote, These are the quotes that he sent to Jeffrey Goldberg.

00:18:51.000 Look how Jeffrey Goldberg spun those quotes.

00:18:53.000 So that is a flat denial by Ben Williamson, the spokesperson for Mark Meadows.

00:18:57.000 Here is what Jeffrey Goldberg then wrote in the story, quote, He provided, this would be one of the aides, he provided statements from Patel and a spokesman for Meadows who denied having heard Trump make the statement.

00:19:09.000 That is not what he said.

00:19:12.000 He didn't deny having heard Trump make the statement.

00:19:14.000 He said Trump never made the statement.

00:19:16.000 That is not the same thing.

00:19:19.000 If I was in the room for discussion and somebody asked me, It's a discussion with my business partner, Jeremy Boring.

00:19:24.000 And somebody asked me, did Jeremy say that?

00:19:26.000 And I said, no, he didn't say that.

00:19:27.000 And then what you report is, Ben Shapiro said that he had never heard Boring make the statement.

00:19:33.000 That implies that he did make the statement.

00:19:35.000 I just didn't hear it.

00:19:37.000 But that's not what he said.

00:19:38.000 He flat denied it.

00:19:40.000 Hey, this is typical Jeff Goldberg shtick.

00:19:45.000 Jeff Goldberg is a Democratic operative.

00:19:47.000 He has always been a Democratic operative.

00:19:50.000 He's always been a stenographer for the Democratic Party, and he's trotting this out in the closing days of the campaign to try and smear Trump as anti-Latino, to smear Trump as anti-military and unpatriotic.

00:20:00.000 And the media are running with it.

00:20:01.000 Again, this is an unverified story.

00:20:03.000 There are no sources, zero, zero sources on the record backing this particular story.

00:20:09.000 It doesn't matter to CBS News.

00:20:10.000 They led with it last night because they want Americans to know that Donald Trump is unpaid.

00:20:15.000 Now, do I think this is going to have any impact on the race?

00:20:16.000 I really don't.

00:20:18.000 Because number one, I think trust in media is at an all-time low.

00:20:21.000 Number two, I think that Trump has said so many things that have been perceived as outrageous for 10 years that this just throw it on the pile, especially an allegation that he said a thing.

00:20:32.000 But here's CBS News doing its damnedest anyway.

00:20:36.000 Two weeks from Election Day as the final battleground sprint is underway.

00:20:41.000 Every hour matters for these candidates as they try to reach as many voters as possible in the key states that will decide this election.

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00:20:54.000 After that campaign stop, a new report that Trump, while president, used the F-word to describe a murdered Mexican-American soldier.

00:21:01.000 That story is that Trump scoffed at the price of a funeral he offered to pay for Private Vanessa Guillen, something Trump's team tonight denies.

00:21:11.000 Okay, they just open with it.

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00:23:40.000 Again, are there any sources on the record to back this?

00:23:43.000 You should have to have a source for something like this.

00:23:45.000 You should actually have to quote the source for something like this.

00:23:48.000 Of course not.

00:23:48.000 Do they do that?

00:23:49.000 Of course not.

00:23:49.000 Jeff Goldberg?

00:23:50.000 And he did this exact same shtick last time.

00:23:52.000 This is not even new.

00:23:53.000 This is the second time around that he has done this. 1.00

00:23:55.000 He did it in 2020 with the suckers and losers lie. 0.98

00:23:58.000 And now he's doing it with the Vanessa Guillen story. 0.98

00:24:02.000 And again, the family denies it.

00:24:03.000 The family denies it.

00:24:04.000 And they're like, why are you running this story?

00:24:06.000 And Jeff Goldberg ran with it, and so did CBS News.

00:24:08.000 Because they have to stop Trump at all costs.

00:24:11.000 So here come the October smears.

00:24:13.000 And believe you me, there will be more.

00:24:15.000 Between now and the election, there will be more smears.

00:24:17.000 The media are focused on it.

00:24:19.000 They're like white on rice when it comes to digging up some sort of scandal that will try and tip the election over.

00:24:25.000 A very, very close election.

00:24:26.000 Closest election in modern American history.

00:24:28.000 Over to Kamala Harris.

00:24:30.000 The same media...

00:24:31.000 That have worked to cover up every bad story about a Democrat for my entire lifetime.

00:24:36.000 They are digging like crazy to find anonymously sourced stories that likely are not true in order to come after Trump.

00:24:42.000 So that is October surprise number one that broke yesterday.

00:24:45.000 And that was combined with October surprise number two.

00:24:47.000 They're dragging out the corpse of John Kelly to talk about Donald Trump.

00:24:51.000 Now, of course, John Kelly is alive.

00:24:53.000 He's fine.

00:24:53.000 Thank God.

00:24:54.000 No, everybody should be healthy.

00:24:55.000 But John Kelly has not been relevant to the American political conversation for four years.

00:24:59.000 The last time he was relevant is when they were trotting him out during the last election cycle to talk about how Donald Trump was a very bad man who was Hitlerian and dictatorial and fascistic and all the rest of this kind of stuff.

00:25:09.000 John Kelly is, of course, the former chief of staff for Donald Trump. 0.97

00:25:13.000 He was fired by Donald Trump, and he's basically spent every waking moment since then retailing how much he hates Donald Trump and how Donald Trump is a fascist.

00:25:21.000 So, John Kelly did an interview with the New York Times in which he suggested that Trump was a far-right authoritarian and suggested also that Donald Trump had once made warm comments about Hitler having done some stuff.

00:25:36.000 So that Jeffrey Goldberg story in The Atlantic mentions some of the same stuff.

00:25:39.000 Jeffrey Goldberg, again, reported, quote, former generals who have worked for Trump say the sole military virtue he prizes is obedience.

00:25:46.000 As his presidency drew to a close, and in the years since, he has become more and more interested in the advantages of dictatorship and the absolute control over the military he believes it would deliver.

00:25:54.000 Quote, I need the kind of generals that Hitler had. 0.96

00:25:56.000 Trump said in a private conversation in the White House, according to two people who heard him say this, people who are totally loyal to him that follow orders.

00:26:03.000 And John Kelly then backs those sorts of narratives that Trump once suggested that he wants generals like Hitler had.

00:26:09.000 Or that he once said that Hitler had done some good things like build the Autobahn. 0.51

00:26:13.000 Okay, throw this on the pile.

00:26:15.000 Just throw it on the pile.

00:26:17.000 Is this going to change anybody's opinion of who Donald Trump is?

00:26:21.000 Donald Trump says a lot of stuff.

00:26:23.000 And he says a lot of stuff in uncomfortable ways that I would prefer he not say them.

00:26:28.000 But is the implication that Donald Trump is actually like an anti-Semite, that he actually is like big on Hitler's Holocaust?

00:26:32.000 Is that the implication here?

00:26:33.000 Because let me just get this straight.

00:26:35.000 The most pro-Israel president in American history, a man I visited, the Rebbe's Ohel with, a person who read from the book of Tehillim, from the book of Psalms, over the grave of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, This person is the anti-Semite? 0.57

00:26:49.000 The one who met with a hostage family, an American-Israeli hostage held by Hamas in Gaza.

00:26:56.000 That one?

00:26:56.000 The one who has Jewish grandkids.

00:26:58.000 So your implication is that because one time he said in a private conversation with John Kelly that Hitler revitalized the German economy, that's actually John Kelly's accusation, that because of that, That somehow is evidence of what?

00:27:13.000 Other than historical ignorance, what is that evidence of precisely?

00:27:17.000 That's evidence that he is secretly a Nazi?

00:27:21.000 That is the accusation?

00:27:23.000 Seriously, guys, this is what you're retailing.

00:27:27.000 He's the person I have to worry about when it comes to fascism.

00:27:32.000 Now, this doesn't wash.

00:27:33.000 I'm sorry it doesn't wash.

00:27:34.000 And it particularly doesn't wash coming from a Democratic Party and media who have been so overtly warm toward the fascistic excesses of the current administration.

00:27:42.000 Let me give you two examples from yesterday alone.

00:27:46.000 So yesterday, Joe Biden was out campaigning.

00:27:50.000 I know he's been deceased for a while, but the dead vote Democrat.

00:27:53.000 And Joe Biden was out there campaigning.

00:27:55.000 And he just said the fascistic part out loud.

00:27:57.000 He said, someone needs to lock Donald Trump up.

00:28:00.000 He needs to be locked up.

00:28:01.000 Now, Donald Trump said that same kind of stuff about Hillary Clinton back in 2016.

00:28:05.000 He was a candidate for the presidency at that point.

00:28:08.000 He was not the president.

00:28:09.000 Then he became the president.

00:28:10.000 And you know what didn't happen?

00:28:11.000 Locking Hillary Clinton up.

00:28:13.000 In fact, his DOJ never even investigated Hillary Clinton.

00:28:16.000 However, Joe Biden has activated his DOJ to investigate Donald Trump for everything up to and including improperly washing his underwear.

00:28:25.000 The DOJ has been activated on every front to go after the political opponents of this administration, from Elon Musk to Donald Trump, And here was the man who is in charge of the DOJ saying that Donald Trump must be locked up two weeks before an election.

00:28:40.000 But don't worry, Trump one time said something about Hitler.

00:28:42.000 But really, we should just ignore this.

00:28:44.000 We should just ignore that the sitting president of the United States, who was a candidate until five minutes ago when they decided to swap out his still-moldering corpse for Kamala Harris, that that person is saying out loud that the person who's currently leading in the polling and is likely to be the next president of the United States Needs to be put in jail.

00:29:03.000 But don't worry, Trump is the fascistic threat to American democracy.

00:29:06.000 Here's Joe Biden.

00:29:08.000 So I know this sounds bizarre.

00:29:10.000 It sounds like if I said this five years ago, you'd lock me up.

00:29:14.000 We gotta lock him up.

00:29:19.000 Politically lock him up.

00:29:22.000 Politically lock him up.

00:29:26.000 He knows exactly what he said.

00:29:28.000 Then he tried to walk it back to politically.

00:29:30.000 That doesn't even make any sense.

00:29:31.000 What are you even talking about?

00:29:32.000 You want him to be in jail.

00:29:34.000 We know it.

00:29:35.000 You activated your DOJ to do it.

00:29:37.000 It's not just that you said it.

00:29:38.000 It's that you did it.

00:29:39.000 So that's example number one.

00:29:41.000 Let me give you another example. 0.77

00:29:42.000 Again, Kamala Harris has done this interview with NBC News, in which she babbles and says nonsensical things and makes a fool of herself. 0.99

00:29:49.000 But one of the things that she is asked about is religious exemptions for performing abortion.

00:29:53.000 So she, of course, is an abortion fanatic, loves abortion, huge into it, fun and games.

00:29:59.000 So she is asked by NBC News, by Hallie Jackson, you know, when it comes to abortion, there are a lot of religious hospitals.

00:30:07.000 Would you create exemptions in the law to allow religious hospitals not to perform abortions?

00:30:12.000 And here is her answer.

00:30:15.000 What concessions would be on the table?

00:30:16.000 Religious exemptions, for example?

00:30:18.000 Is that something that you would consider?

00:30:19.000 I don't think we should be making concessions when we're talking about a fundamental freedom to make decisions about your own body.

00:30:25.000 To Republicans like, for example, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, who would back something like this on a Democratic agenda if, in fact, Republicans control Congress, would you offer them an olive branch?

00:30:34.000 Or is that off the table?

00:30:35.000 Is that not an option for you?

00:30:37.000 I'm not going to engage in hypotheticals.

00:30:41.000 Okay, so let's just be clear what she's saying in this clip.

00:30:44.000 There is a fundamental freedom in the United States Constitution.

00:30:47.000 It is enshrined in the First Amendment.

00:30:49.000 It is freedom of religion, which means freedom of religious practice.

00:30:53.000 That is in the Constitution of the United States.

00:30:55.000 You know what's not in the Constitution of the United States?

00:30:57.000 The right to an abortion.

00:30:58.000 That is not, in fact, a fundamental American right.

00:31:00.000 It isn't.

00:31:02.000 They can vote in your state if you wish the state to not criminalize this activity.

00:31:05.000 You can do that if you're in California, New York.

00:31:08.000 That is a constitutional activity. 0.72

00:31:11.000 It is not a fundamental American right and has never been a fundamental American right to kill babies in the womb.

00:31:17.000 What she is saying is that freedom of religion is not a fundamental right and abortion is.

00:31:21.000 That sounds a little fascistic to me.

00:31:23.000 As a religious person, it seems a little scary that the person who wants to be president of the United States says that if you are a Catholic charity hospital, you must perform abortions.

00:31:34.000 That's what she's saying right there.

00:31:36.000 Hey, that's fascistic.

00:31:38.000 She has served under an administration that has expanded executive power and attempted to use it in defiance of the Supreme Court in extraordinary ways. 0.57

00:31:46.000 She pledges to do the same if she becomes President of the United States.

00:31:49.000 And I'm supposed to worry that Donald Trump once made dumb historical references to John Kelly? 0.87

00:31:53.000 That's what I'm supposed to worry about? 0.96

00:31:56.000 This is projection.

00:31:58.000 It is projection.

00:32:00.000 It is gaslighting. 0.99

00:32:02.000 And this is what the Democrats in the media are doing all the damn time. 0.98

00:32:05.000 Let me give you another example from yesterday. 0.96

00:32:07.000 So, Democrats are pretending to be very, very upset that Donald Trump has suggested that there are enemies within the United States.

00:32:14.000 No, no, he can't say that.

00:32:15.000 That's so divisive.

00:32:16.000 Him saying there are enemies within the United States.

00:32:18.000 So here is Donald Trump saying it, and then we'll talk about the response from Democrats.

00:32:24.000 How are you going to guard against the bureaucrats undermining you?

00:32:28.000 Well, they're going to undermine...

00:32:29.000 Well, I always say so...

00:32:32.000 We have two enemies.

00:32:33.000 We have the outside enemy, and then we have the enemy from within.

00:32:37.000 And the enemy from within, in my opinion, is more dangerous than China, Russia, and all these countries. 0.89

00:32:42.000 Because if you have a smart president, he can handle them pretty easily.

00:32:47.000 I got along great with all...

00:32:47.000 I handled...

00:32:48.000 Why handle them? 0.77

00:32:50.000 But the thing that's tougher to handle are these lunatics that we have inside, like Adam Schiff, Adam Shifty Schiff. 0.83

00:32:58.000 Think of this guy's going to be a senator. 0.57

00:33:01.000 He's running against a guy that doesn't understand politics at all, Garvey.

00:33:05.000 But he was a good baseball player.

00:33:07.000 But he doesn't understand politics at all.

00:33:10.000 Adam Shifty Schiff, who's a total sleazebag, is going to become a senator.

00:33:14.000 But I call him the enemy from within.

00:33:16.000 When you look at the danger he put our country in, potentially with Russia, with a phony made-up deal that he made up with Hillary and some bad people, that started off as an excuse for why she lost an election that a lot of people thought, She should have won, because the polls indicated she might win, and then she got beaten everywhere, virtually.

00:33:37.000 When you look at that, and then they said, ah, it was Russia.

00:33:42.000 They used it as an excuse.

00:33:44.000 And then the fake news picked it up.

00:33:47.000 Okay, so, do I like when political opponents label each other the enemy from within?

00:33:51.000 I really don't.

00:33:52.000 I don't like that very much.

00:33:53.000 In fact, I don't like it on either side, which is why I've been condemning it my entire political career.

00:33:57.000 I don't like it.

00:33:58.000 There are actually, by the way, enemies within.

00:33:59.000 For example, an enemy of the United States within would be whoever in the Defense Department decided to leak Israel's war plans on Iran to Iran.

00:34:06.000 That person should be in jail. 0.92

00:34:08.000 That person should be arrested forthwith.

00:34:10.000 The FBI is currently doing an investigation.

00:34:11.000 When I talk about the enemy within, there are, in fact, people in the government who are enemies of the United States inside the U.S. government.

00:34:16.000 Those people need to be ferreted out and prosecuted under criminal law.

00:34:20.000 Okay, so that really exists. 1.00

00:34:21.000 But when you say you're political, and believe me, I think Adam Schiff is a scumbag. 1.00

00:34:24.000 I think Adam Schiff is a liar. 0.99

00:34:26.000 Do I think that Adam Schiff is a greater threat than, say, China or Russia?

00:34:29.000 I have my doubts.

00:34:30.000 Okay, but it's the reaction I want to point out here.

00:34:33.000 So members of the left-wing media, members of the Democratic Party, who are perfectly fine with demonizing everybody on the right for my entire lifetime, are very upset that Donald Trump would say anything remotely like this.

00:34:43.000 So Jon Stewart, who has made an entire living By sneering, like just making faces at people he disagrees with and treating them as forms of a lower humanity.

00:34:54.000 He's very upset that Donald Trump would talk about the enemies within.

00:34:57.000 By the way, this is during the same presidency where Joe Biden went in front of a blood-red independence hall and called ultra-maga Republicans a threat to the Republic.

00:35:06.000 So spare me the crocodile tears here.

00:35:10.000 He is literally saying that!

00:35:12.000 He is literally saying that!

00:35:15.000 What are you talking about?

00:35:17.000 Literally!

00:35:18.000 He is saying the enemy within, like shifty-shift and Pelosi.

00:35:24.000 You can't just pretend that he's talking about something else.

00:35:28.000 God!

00:35:28.000 This is what gets us to the ultimate problem, which is this.

00:35:31.000 Is any of the s*** Trump says real? 0.99

00:35:35.000 How are we supposed to understand what's bullshit and what isn't? 0.99

00:35:39.000 Kamala Harris, she's got to have an 80-page presentation on exactly how this opportunity economy is going to function and how it's going to be paid for. 0.97

00:35:46.000 Meanwhile, the standard for Trump is emotional vicinity.

00:35:51.000 Apparently, it doesn't actually matter if the things he says are true.

00:35:54.000 And if you try and dig down on the lies, he only gets lie-ear.

00:36:00.000 Okay, so, Jon Stewart being frustrated by the fact that people take Trump seriously but not literally, which has been true his entire political career.

00:36:06.000 I'm sorry, this doesn't wash.

00:36:07.000 What are we supposed to do about the fact that Joe Biden said yesterday that his political opponents should be locked up?

00:36:13.000 That Donald Trump should go to jail?

00:36:16.000 Okay, that seems like declaring him an enemy within.

00:36:19.000 I mean, the entire Democratic Party has done that to Trump since he decided to step down the golden escalator in 2015.

00:36:26.000 Jim Acosta did the same thing on CNN. And all the same people who retailed Russiagate, suggesting that Donald Trump was in fact a tool of the Russian government, which is to say, definitionally, an enemy within, are very, very upset that Donald Trump would say anything like that about the people who labeled him that.

00:36:42.000 So I'm asking you, if Donald Trump orders people inside this country, citizens like Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi, to be arrested, you're saying, I think I just heard you a few moments ago saying you would not go along with that.

00:36:57.000 So why not denounce what the former president is saying when he calls them the enemy from within?

00:37:05.000 Jim, first of all, let's be very clear.

00:37:08.000 Donald, Matt, are you going to let me answer your question?

00:37:11.000 Here you go.

00:37:11.000 Donald Trump's been president for four years already.

00:37:14.000 When he was president of the United States, did he weaponize the Justice Department against his political rivals?

00:37:19.000 No, he did not.

00:37:21.000 When he was president of the United States, did he order the National Guard or Secret Service or the U.S. military to go after his quote unquote rivals?

00:37:29.000 No, he did not.

00:37:30.000 As a matter of fact, there's been two attempts.

00:37:33.000 Congressman, I've been at a lot of Trump rallies where they were chanting Locker up.

00:37:37.000 No, Jim, you want an answer?

00:37:39.000 I'm going to give you an answer.

00:37:40.000 You may not like it.

00:37:41.000 Well, it has to be in line with reality, Congressman.

00:37:43.000 The reality is...

00:37:44.000 You've been to Trump rallies when they chant, lock her up about Hillary Clinton. 0.99

00:37:49.000 All right.

00:37:51.000 Acosta's a joke.

00:37:51.000 Byron Donalds is giving him exactly the correct answer, which is, Trump was president.

00:37:54.000 We already know what he's going to do.

00:37:56.000 What are you even talking about?

00:37:57.000 But this is the gaslighting.

00:37:59.000 They do the thing they say that it's bad Trump wants to do.

00:38:03.000 And then they say it's bad that Trump articulates something in the vicinity of the thing that they are actually doing.

00:38:03.000 They do it.

00:38:10.000 No one buys it. 1.00

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00:40:22.000 And so speaking of gaslighting, and it makes you nuts.

00:40:24.000 It makes you absolutely nuts, and it's designed to do so. 0.95

00:40:27.000 So again, the claim today is that Donald Trump cursed the memory of a Latino soldier who was murdered. 0.96

00:40:32.000 A female Latino soldier who was murdered. 0.89

00:40:34.000 Cursed her memory as a Mexican. 1.00

00:40:35.000 Okay, nonsense.

00:40:37.000 Jeffrey Goldberg's reporting it with zero sourcing, and it's leading the CBS Evening News. 1.00

00:40:40.000 It's crap. 0.99

00:40:41.000 I'm just going to put this out there. 1.00

00:40:42.000 It doesn't even sound like something that Trump would say.

00:40:44.000 It's absurd.

00:40:45.000 Okay, that's story number one. 0.52

00:40:47.000 Story number two is that they're dragging out John Kelly yet again for another round of Trump is Hitler.

00:40:52.000 And then they're saying, look, Trump's going to target his enemies from within.

00:40:54.000 Okay, the entire Democratic Party right now is providing cover for pro-Hamas protesters across the country.

00:41:01.000 The entire Democratic Party is currently threatening Israel with an arms cutoff in the middle of a war against the Nazis of today, Hamas and Hezbollah and the Iranian regime. 0.72

00:41:10.000 And I'm supposed to believe that Donald Trump is the Hitlerian threat to the...

00:41:13.000 Joe Biden yesterday said that he wants to arrest Donald Trump.

00:41:17.000 And he has already sticked his DOJ on Donald Trump.

00:41:20.000 And I'm supposed to believe that Trump is the fascistic authoritarian threat to the United States.

00:41:24.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:41:25.000 Bullshit. 0.99

00:41:27.000 Then they tried out Barack Obama, who himself radically expanded executive power and destroyed whatever political comedy we had in the country. 1.00

00:41:34.000 Barack Obama was a historically dangerous president.

00:41:38.000 Look at the polls of Americans' beliefs about race in the United States and racial comedy in the United States.

00:41:43.000 This man did more than any other man of my lifetime to wreck the body politic in this country.

00:41:49.000 And yesterday, he was campaigning for Vice President Harris, and he's asking crocodile tears streaming down his cheeks how we got so toxic and bitter.

00:41:57.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:41:58.000 It was you.

00:42:00.000 The gaslighting is insane.

00:42:03.000 You can sense a little anger here.

00:42:05.000 I don't like being lied to.

00:42:07.000 I don't like when partisan politicians like Barack Obama pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.

00:42:11.000 I don't like that at all.

00:42:13.000 Here's Barack Obama doing it yesterday at a campaign rally for Harris.

00:42:17.000 I don't understand how we got so toxic and just...

00:42:22.000 So divided and so bitter.

00:42:23.000 And I get why sometimes people just don't want to pay attention to it.

00:42:27.000 And we all have friends like that.

00:42:29.000 We have family members who are just like, ah, you know, it's all a circus out there.

00:42:34.000 I get that.

00:42:37.000 How did it get a toxic transmitter?

00:42:38.000 It was you.

00:42:40.000 This guy spent his entire political career ripping his political opponents as the worst people in America.

00:42:45.000 There's a great piece over at the Daily Wire.

00:42:48.000 Running down all the things that he said about his fellow Americans.

00:42:50.000 2008.

00:42:51.000 I want you to talk to Republicans, whether they're independent, whether they're Republican.

00:42:56.000 I want you to argue with them and get in their face.

00:42:59.000 2009.

00:42:59.000 I don't want to quell anger.

00:43:00.000 I think people are right to be angry.

00:43:01.000 I'm angry.

00:43:03.000 April 2008.

00:43:04.000 On his opponents, quote, they get bitter.

00:43:05.000 They cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiments or anti-trade sentiments as a way to explain their frustration.

00:43:13.000 2010.

00:43:14.000 He declares the members of the Tea Party...

00:43:16.000 The most polite protest group in American history.

00:43:19.000 People got together and held events talking about cutting government spending.

00:43:23.000 He called them teabaggers, which is a vulgar slang for people who perform particular sexual activities.

00:43:31.000 2010, talking about the GOP taking back the House of Representatives.

00:43:35.000 Quote, if they're successful in doing that, they've already said they're going to go back to the same policies that were in place during the Bush administration.

00:43:40.000 We are going to have hand-to-hand combat up here on Capitol Hill.

00:43:46.000 2014, he said racism was deeply rooted in American society.

00:43:51.000 How did we get so polarized?

00:43:53.000 How?

00:43:53.000 I don't even know.

00:43:56.000 The entire media in 2010, I remember, I was there, calling the Tea Party terrorists.

00:44:01.000 It's beyond reason.

00:44:04.000 It really, really is.

00:44:06.000 And pretending these people have any credibility to talk about bringing the country together is an absurdity at the highest level.

00:44:13.000 Now, by the way, speaking of bringing people together around lies, so yesterday at this Kamala Harris rally, Barack Obama shows up, it's in Detroit, and they bring forth Slim Shady, Eminem, Marshall Mathers.

00:44:27.000 They bring him forth.

00:44:28.000 Eminem is now 52 years old.

00:44:31.000 Yes, all of your childhood icons, they've gotten old.

00:44:34.000 Eminem is 12 years older than I am.

00:44:37.000 His last good song came out 20 years ago, something like that.

00:44:41.000 In any case, he introduced Barack Obama at this rally. 0.64

00:44:45.000 Now, the hypocrisy here is absolutely astounding. 0.73

00:44:48.000 Astounding.

00:44:50.000 Why is it so astounding?

00:44:51.000 Because have you ever read an Eminem lyric?

00:44:54.000 Like, just read it?

00:44:56.000 This is a campaign.

00:44:57.000 Kamala Harris' campaign is built around we care about women. 1.00

00:45:01.000 All we care about is women. 1.00

00:45:02.000 Toxic masculinity. 0.82

00:45:03.000 Let me read you some Eminem lyrics.

00:45:05.000 Quote, There's a four-year-old little boy laying dead with a slit throat in your living room.

00:45:09.000 Ha ha.

00:45:10.000 Or how about this?

00:45:11.000 Let me add my two cents.

00:45:13.000 Of course I side with Chris Brown. 1.00

00:45:14.000 I'd beat a bitch down too if she gave my dick an itch now. 1.00

00:45:18.000 That's an Eminem lyric. 1.00

00:45:20.000 Or how about... 1.00

00:45:23.000 Fuck you, Ms. 1.00

00:45:23.000 Cheney. 1.00

00:45:24.000 Fuck you with the freest of speech. 1.00

00:45:25.000 The divided states of embarrassment will allow me to have. 1.00

00:45:28.000 Fuck you. 1.00

00:45:30.000 Or, maybe, you know, there is, I take seven kids from Columbine, stand them all in a line, add an AK-47, a revolver, a 9, a Mac-11, and it ought to solve the problem of mine. 1.00

00:45:39.000 And that's a whole school of bully shit all at one time. 0.98

00:45:43.000 He seems like a really nice person. 0.99

00:45:45.000 Like a really nice person.

00:45:50.000 Probably he should introduce the former president of the United States to introduce the current presidential candidate.

00:45:56.000 He seems like an absolute delight.

00:45:59.000 This is a person who has in his lyrics talked up.

00:46:03.000 Let's talk to murder. 0.57

00:46:04.000 But don't worry, he's an icon in Detroit.

00:46:06.000 So it's fine.

00:46:07.000 It's fine now.

00:46:08.000 By the way, if he had introduced Trump, you know what I'm saying would be front page news across the country.

00:46:11.000 But this went completely without comment by the media.

00:46:13.000 Here was the real Slim Shady doing his routine.

00:46:16.000 He's now turned into a rich suburban white man endorsing Kamala Harris.

00:46:20.000 He's turned into a white dude for Harris.

00:46:23.000 As most of you know, the city of Detroit and the whole state of Michigan mean a lot to me.

00:46:33.000 And going into this election, the spotlight is on us more than ever, and I think it's important to use your voice, so I'm encouraging everybody to get out and vote, please.

00:46:47.000 I also think that people shouldn't be afraid to express their opinions, and I don't think anyone wants an America where people are worried about retribution or what people will do if you make your opinion known.

00:47:02.000 I think Vice President Harris supports a future for this country where these freedoms and many others will be protected and upheld.

00:47:13.000 And here to tell you much more about that, President Barack Obama.

00:47:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:37.000 Don't worry guys, thank you.

00:47:37.000 They care about women.

00:47:38.000 They care so deeply about so much worrying about women.

00:47:41.000 And then, oh, the bro hug.

00:47:42.000 By the way, then Obama got up and he started doing lyrics from Eminem.

00:47:47.000 Celeb collabs.

00:47:49.000 And misogyny, that's what they're in for. 0.98

00:47:51.000 But we're supposed to believe them.

00:47:52.000 We're supposed to believe that they are all the things that they say. 1.00

00:47:55.000 They're such liars. 1.00

00:47:56.000 They're such liars. 1.00

00:47:58.000 And they tried out Tim Walz as well, by the way, to rip on Elon Musk. 0.99

00:48:01.000 You want to talk about hypocrisy?

00:48:03.000 How about Tim Walz, the inflatable at the used car lot, saying that Elon Musk skips around all weird when he's campaigning for Trump.

00:48:11.000 No one has weirder hand motions than Tim Walz.

00:48:14.000 He's directly from a Bob Fosse musical.

00:48:17.000 This dude unconsciously does jazz hands.

00:48:20.000 And here he is ripping on Elon Musk's bodily motions.

00:48:25.000 The man's like a Muppet.

00:48:27.000 Here we go. 1.00

00:48:29.000 Elon's on that stage, jumping around, skipping like a dipshit on these things. 0.99

00:48:35.000 You know it. 1.00

00:48:39.000 Just ridiculous people. 1.00

00:48:41.000 Ridiculous people. 1.00

00:48:42.000 And they're going to dump out whatever bucket of garbage they have on Trump. 1.00

00:48:46.000 They're going to dump it all out on Trump. 0.99

00:48:47.000 And you know what?

00:48:47.000 I don't think it's going to make one bit of difference.

00:48:49.000 Because once again, Donald Trump has been hit with everything, including bullets.

00:48:52.000 I do not think that barring some cataclysmic scandal the likes of which we have not heard over the course of the last 10 years, and that's a very small category, anything is changing the trajectory of this race for Democrats.

00:49:02.000 This is a desperation play.

00:49:04.000 Clearly a desperation play. 1.00

00:49:06.000 So, the toxic foolishness of the Democratic Party has now been extended out to the useful idiots. 1.00

00:49:12.000 So, Kamala Harris has been out on the campaign trail campaigning with Liz Cheney. 1.00

00:49:16.000 Who the hell is Liz Cheney bringing in? 1.00

00:49:18.000 Like, seriously, who's the swing voters like, oh my god, I was just waiting for Liz Cheney to announce her endorsement of Kamala Harris. 0.73

00:49:24.000 That's going to be huge. 1.00

00:49:25.000 When I say useful idiots, here's why I say that Liz Cheney is a useful idiot. 1.00

00:49:28.000 The reason Liz Cheney is a useful idiot is because zero of her priorities, zero, will be forwarded by Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:49:35.000 So, the Democrats will fet her. 1.00

00:49:37.000 They will treat her as a wonderful human being.

00:49:40.000 A true, heroic figure.

00:49:41.000 Chris Matthews, that's what I say.

00:49:43.000 He's back.

00:49:44.000 Explain how Liz Cheney, she's the best. 0.98

00:49:46.000 We love Liz Cheney now.

00:49:48.000 Yeah, we hated her dad. 0.70

00:49:49.000 Yeah, her dad was the worst. 0.99

00:49:50.000 Her dad was Satan. 0.96

00:49:50.000 But she's great, Liz Cheney. 0.96

00:49:52.000 She's just wonderful.

00:49:53.000 Come on in here.

00:49:54.000 I'll rumble.

00:49:54.000 Come out of the show.

00:49:56.000 Then we just go, go.

00:49:58.000 I've never seen a more heroic figure than Liz Cheney.

00:50:02.000 She lost her state probably forever.

00:50:05.000 She lost her party.

00:50:07.000 She lost her leadership in the Republican House.

00:50:09.000 She could have been on her way to speaker. 0.99

00:50:11.000 It was very probable.

00:50:13.000 She gave it all away in the interest of truth.

00:50:15.000 That's what she stood for.

00:50:17.000 It's amazing to me how few people have gotten behind her, but now one person that's got behind her is Kamala Harris. 0.76

00:50:24.000 And those sitting together, those two women, as you say, on that stage is remarkable because there's such courage there from Liz Cheney.

00:50:32.000 And I cannot say anything that would stop me from saying she's been unbelievable.

00:50:41.000 Unbelievable.

00:50:41.000 Unreal.

00:50:42.000 Well, if she's so amazing, maybe she should take her cues on some other political issues. 0.99

00:50:47.000 Oh, wait, you won't.

00:50:49.000 Here is Jon Stewart getting Tim Walls, the vice presidential candidate, to admit that they hate Liz Cheney and they are simply using her as a cutout.

00:50:55.000 They will never listen to anything she has to say.

00:50:57.000 Here's Jon Stewart making Tim Walls say the quiet part out loud.

00:51:02.000 The Cheney thing.

00:51:04.000 Do we really have to do that?

00:51:08.000 Uh, look, I, it goes broader than that.

00:51:11.000 Look, Bernie Sanders, Dick Cheney, Taylor Swift.

00:51:13.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:51:16.000 No, no, no, no.

00:51:16.000 Having the Cheneys on board?

00:51:17.000 No!

00:51:18.000 You can't Dick Cheney or Taylor Swift.

00:51:21.000 No!

00:51:23.000 We're a big tent.

00:51:24.000 What country did Taylor Swift get us to invade?

00:51:28.000 No!

00:51:30.000 Okay, so, then Tim Walz goes ahead and he explains, don't worry, we won't listen to anything she has to say.

00:51:36.000 Nothing.

00:51:37.000 Right?

00:51:37.000 We'll ignore everything she has to say.

00:51:38.000 And we're a little embarrassed that we're bringing out the Cheney family, but we're happy to use them for political... 0.99

00:51:42.000 This is like the definition of useful idiocy. 1.00

00:51:45.000 This is why when I say the Democratic Party, they are users and abusers. 1.00

00:51:49.000 They have a far-left agenda.

00:51:50.000 They will implement it no matter what.

00:51:52.000 They will smother it in a crust of lies.

00:51:55.000 They will pretend that the Republican Party is the authoritarian party while simultaneously trotting out their now deceased president to claim that he's going to jail his political opponents after having activated his own DOJ to do so.

00:52:07.000 Kamala Harris will be out there explaining that that dude is perfectly sane and not senile at all.

00:52:12.000 And also, she is going to unleash Basically, racial bribery in the election while simultaneously suggesting that religious freedom is not a core function of the Constitution. 0.79

00:52:24.000 Like, this is the party you want?

00:52:26.000 Really? 1.00

00:52:27.000 And you're going to do all that because, what, Jeffrey Goldberg is trotting out another bullshit story? 0.99

00:52:32.000 I don't think so. 0.98

00:52:34.000 Joining us online is Brent Buchanan.

00:52:35.000 He's president and founder of Signal, an international public opinion, polling and analytics firm.

00:52:39.000 He's done an awful lot of work for U.S. presidential, Senate and gubernatorial campaigns, 538, New York Times.

00:52:44.000 They've recognized Signal as the most accurate private polling firm in the United States.

00:52:47.000 Brent, thanks so much for taking the time.

00:52:49.000 Really appreciate it.

00:52:50.000 Hey, great to be with you, Ben.

00:52:53.000 So I'm going to ask you the obvious question up front.

00:52:55.000 What's the state of the race right now?

00:52:57.000 We're hearing that Trump has momentum.

00:53:00.000 We saw people like Mark Halperin saying that if he can read the early voting sort of chicken entrails, then it looks like Republicans are doing really well.

00:53:06.000 Looking at the state of the race right now, just hard and fast, who do you think is winning and why?

00:53:13.000 It's really close, and I would give Donald Trump an edge.

00:53:16.000 And there's a couple reasons for that.

00:53:18.000 One, Kamala Harris has insane amounts of money. 1.00

00:53:21.000 And when you think about who is yet to be decided in this race, it's lower information individuals.

00:53:26.000 They tend to be younger, less educated, and they just haven't tuned into this race. 0.94

00:53:30.000 And so to cut through, you've got to spend incredible amounts of money.

00:53:34.000 It's why both candidates are doing these huge pushes on all kinds of non-traditional media right now.

00:53:40.000 Secondly, if you look at the map, the reason I give Donald Trump an edge is he's going to win Arizona.

00:53:45.000 He's going to win North Carolina.

00:53:47.000 It's highly likely he wins Georgia.

00:53:49.000 So it puts those Sunbelt states out of play, which means she has to run the full sweep of the Rust Belt, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. 1.00

00:53:57.000 And right now I would say she has a slight edge in Pennsylvania.

00:53:59.000 It's just a really challenging, expensive state.

00:54:02.000 And if you're looking at where can Trump pull out that final state, right now it looks like Michigan.

00:54:09.000 So, you know, looking at sort of the state of the race, it's very difficult to read these polls.

00:54:14.000 You know, I'm reading the poll averages, same as everybody else, from Nate Silver or FiveThirtyEight or RealClearPolitics, and the poll averages are even different depending on which polls are included and which polls are not included.

00:54:23.000 One of the big questions that I have in reading these polls is the polls were pretty bad in 2020 on a state level.

00:54:28.000 On a national level, they were off significantly, but on the state level, they were really off pretty significantly because Joe Biden had major leads in many of these states.

00:54:34.000 He ended up winning by bare tens of thousands of votes in some of these states.

00:54:38.000 So how much have pollsters adjusted their modeling and how do we know how they've adjusted their modeling?

00:54:44.000 When you're looking at a likely voter screen, it's always very difficult to tell how that's constructed and also whether that's going to be accurate or not because Trump brings out such a strange coalition.

00:54:52.000 A huge number of low propensity voters show up for Donald Trump that don't show up in sort of a traditional election cycle.

00:54:57.000 So when you're creating that likely voter screen to determine...

00:55:00.000 What the actual outcome of a poll looks like?

00:55:02.000 Does it look like 2022, 2020, which was also an outlier election, 2016?

00:55:07.000 What kind of adjustments have been made?

00:55:08.000 How much is it taking into account the weirdness of an election in which Trump is involved?

00:55:13.000 Well, you first have to ask yourself, why would somebody pay for a poll?

00:55:17.000 Because they're not free.

00:55:19.000 And once you've figured out, okay, is there some kind of reason that the poll, they're wanting the poll to look this way?

00:55:25.000 So that's the first screen in my mind when looking at a poll.

00:55:27.000 When you're screening in voters, I mean, any survey that doesn't start with the voter file, you've got a question.

00:55:33.000 When I go look at a poll, and I do this for a living, I don't start at the top of the poll.

00:55:37.000 I scroll to the bottom of the poll because I want to see how it's constructed.

00:55:40.000 What is the partisan breakdown?

00:55:42.000 What's the gender breakdown? 0.99

00:55:43.000 Specifically, what's the educational attainment breakdown?

00:55:46.000 Because if you go back 10 years ago, educational attainment really didn't matter as an indicator of partisanship, and now it's become one of the most important aspects of predictiveness of partisanship.

00:55:57.000 And so if it's often any of those factors, sometimes I won't even go to the rest of the poll.

00:56:02.000 I won't scroll back to the top because I won't care what the presidential race is or the Senate race is because the polls just constructed wrong.

00:56:08.000 It's constructed in a way that doesn't look like any past election.

00:56:11.000 And this can happen for a couple different reasons.

00:56:14.000 You've got, you know, older people and more educated people are more likely to answer surveys.

00:56:19.000 And the Trump coalition that you're talking about is not older and is not more educated.

00:56:25.000 And so that is how some of these misses has happened in the past.

00:56:28.000 I really do think that the shy Trump voter is less and less a factor.

00:56:31.000 I mean, this is the third time the guy is on the ballot.

00:56:33.000 And if you look at his ballot share in each of these states, not just the margin at which he's at, it's the highest he's ever been in pretty much every state that he's polling in and including nationally.

00:56:43.000 And I think part of that is the corrections that have been made.

00:56:49.000 I mean, I live in Arlington, Virginia, which is basically a communist compound, and you would be shocked at how many Trump signs are up in Arlington, Virginia right now.

00:57:03.000 So let's talk about the Trump coalition.

00:57:05.000 There's been a lot of talk about it being multiracial, about it being more working class.

00:57:08.000 There's also been some talk, Harry Enten on CNN, recently suggesting that actually he's underperforming what he did in past elections with working class white men, for example, which seems strange to me that he would be underperforming when Kamala Harris is on the other side of the ballot, when she obviously, from the way her campaign is approaching things, is she seeing internals that suggest that that may be untrue?

00:57:27.000 Because They're making a heavy effort to draw out black men.

00:57:31.000 They're trying to send out Tim Walls as a bizarre surrogate for working class white men. 0.63

00:57:36.000 What do you make of the reports that he's lagging in particular sectors where he's done better before?

00:57:41.000 Well, right before this interview, I went back and looked at the 2016 exit polls, 2020, and then I compared that to our most recent national poll.

00:57:48.000 And if you look at white voters in 2016, they voted 20 points more for Donald Trump And that was 17 points more for Donald Trump in 20.

00:57:57.000 And right now we only have it at four points more for Donald Trump.

00:58:00.000 And so I think that's more a factor of that segment of voters being more undecided because exit polls don't have an undecided option.

00:58:08.000 You either walked in a voter for one or the other, or maybe a third party candidate.

00:58:11.000 And so that's the best way to read that right now.

00:58:14.000 But if they're looking at the same polls that we have access to, they are seeing that there is opportunity in white working class voters I don't know why they're going after white working class men, because the gender gap is back and the gender gap actually looks a whole lot more like 2016.

00:58:30.000 The men as a whole just didn't perform as well for Trump in 2020.

00:58:34.000 And so as we look at that gender aspect, it's actually looking more like 2016, which is positive for Trump. 0.90

00:58:40.000 But if you go back to the 2016 exit poll, black voters 8% for Trump, 2020 12% for Trump.

00:58:46.000 Our poll currently has him at 20% with black voters.

00:58:50.000 So, I mean, just this massive increase in appeal to non-white voters.

00:58:55.000 And it makes a lot of sense.

00:58:56.000 I saw a chart the other day that showed ideology, conservative, moderate, liberal, and, you know, white Republicans have kind of stayed conservative.

00:59:04.000 Hispanics and blacks have stayed moderate.

00:59:06.000 And white Democrats have just fallen off into this, you know, this leftist liberal pool.

00:59:12.000 And so they don't look anything like Democrats of 20 years ago.

00:59:15.000 And white and Hispanic voters are looking at those folks saying, why did you go insane?

00:59:21.000 Because I don't believe that.

00:59:22.000 That's not what I look like.

00:59:24.000 And they're starting to consider the Republican Party that, of course, is more conservative than them, but at least it's not wacky leftists.

00:59:31.000 Yeah, this is part of the thing I think about Trump that people have completely ignored is that his excesses are rhetorical.

00:59:37.000 His policies are more moderate than any Republican candidate of my lifetime.

00:59:40.000 If you actually look at what he's done with the Republican platform on say abortion or completely ignoring same-sex marriage or a wide variety of issues that used to be sort of the key litmus test of conservatism in the country.

00:59:51.000 He's put those things all the way off to the side.

00:59:53.000 I mean, this is a person who campaigned in 2016 saying he's not going to touch Medicare or Social Security and then won.

00:59:57.000 And so he's taken a bunch of what would have been sort of the hard, right, rock, red Republican issues and just dispensed with them.

01:00:03.000 And so he actually has occupied the middle of the political spectrum positionally, which is one of the reasons why I think he's outperforming.

01:00:11.000 Democrats, I think, they read him as a radical while ignoring the fact that politically the dude is the most...

01:00:20.000 Oh, completely.

01:00:25.000 And I think it's also causing a little bit of a problem in the religious community.

01:00:30.000 I don't know if you saw the ASU survey that George Barna put out of how many tens of millions of evangelical Christians are going to sit this election out.

01:00:39.000 And you go back and look at 2016, what did Trump do?

01:00:42.000 Well, he I'm going to appoint very conservative Supreme Court justices and here are their names.

01:00:47.000 Here's a list.

01:00:48.000 And it was that inflection point in the campaign where conservative voters started to consider, OK, well, this, you know, this guy, this moderate from New York, I might be willing to support him if this is the type of people he's going to appoint for the Supreme Court.

01:01:03.000 So I think it's an issue that in this next two weeks in the final stretch of the campaign, the Trump campaign could benefit from Figuring something out that they can hang and say, look, this religious right, this is what we're going to do for the next four years for you. 0.62

01:01:16.000 Because I think the religious right just hasn't heard anything from them because, as you mentioned, a lot of these policies are centrist, which is pulling voters in.

01:01:24.000 And I think it's one of the missing parts of this campaign cycle is that each side is saying, look at this new type of voter we're getting.

01:01:31.000 The Dems are saying we have Liz Cheney and the neocon Republicans coming over.

01:01:35.000 And Republicans are saying, look, we have black and Hispanic men coming over, but nobody wants to talk about who left their coalition.

01:01:42.000 And I think when you look at the religious right, it actually is an area that they're saying, what do we get out of this coalition?

01:01:52.000 So let's talk for a second about the ground game.

01:01:54.000 There's been a lot of talk about the ground game variation between the Republicans and the Democrats.

01:01:58.000 It's obviously been a major concern of mine.

01:02:00.000 I'm hearing very conflicting opinions on exactly how good is the Republican ground operation.

01:02:05.000 They've outsourced it to outside groups, whether it's Elon Musk, whether it's Turning Point USA. The Democrats, of course, are pretty famous for having a very, very solid ground operation.

01:02:12.000 What do you make of concerns about the ground game?

01:02:14.000 How much does ground game matter in an election like this?

01:02:18.000 Well, ground game is just another touch.

01:02:21.000 And when you think about these lower propensity voters, they just need a whole lot more touches.

01:02:25.000 And so knocking on their door a few times is helpful.

01:02:28.000 But I will say that when you think about ground game, the reason the Democrats have been so successful is because it's not something that they say, oh, guess what?

01:02:37.000 Three months to the election.

01:02:38.000 Let's go throw people on the doors. 1.00

01:02:39.000 They do it year round.

01:02:41.000 They build within the communities.

01:02:42.000 And I'm very appreciative for what these outside groups are doing to help Donald Trump.

01:02:47.000 But we as a Republican Party have got to figure out what is that ecosystem that we can build Within communities, not just pay people 30 bucks an hour to go knock on doors.

01:02:57.000 I think it's important.

01:02:59.000 I think it's helpful when we're doing tracking studies every single day in a couple of key states right now.

01:03:04.000 And you can see when and where the other side puts people on the doors because it starts to show up in what's called the seeing red herd flow.

01:03:11.000 Where have you seen red or heard anything about this campaign or candidate?

01:03:15.000 And we don't necessarily see those same spikes on The Republican side.

01:03:20.000 And I think it's just because it's newer.

01:03:22.000 It's a much smaller audience of who is getting their door knocked.

01:03:25.000 I mean, if you ask people, have you ever been polled?

01:03:28.000 I would guess that number is even smaller than the number of people who say that their door has ever been knocked.

01:03:36.000 So, you know, final question for you.

01:03:38.000 You know, we're looking forward now a couple of weeks.

01:03:40.000 I know that I can't ask you about unknown unknowns because who the hell knows what's going to drop.

01:03:43.000 One of the things I find it difficult to believe is that there's going to be any story that drops about Donald Trump, barring, you know, he had sex with a horse or something, that radically changes the nature of this race going forward on the Trump side of the equation.

01:03:54.000 I know there have been a couple of oppo dumps on him, the suggestion that he made disparaging remarks about a A dead Latino soldier, which, again, is unverified.

01:04:02.000 Jeffrey Goldberg is trotting that one out today.

01:04:04.000 John Kelly has been brought back, resurrected, to make accusations about Donald Trump liking Hitler, which I find personally strange since, once again, I visited the grave of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson with Donald Trump two weeks ago, and he didn't seem super Hitlerian at the time.

01:04:19.000 I feel like I would have noticed the mustache.

01:04:21.000 So, given the fact that Trump has been absolutely stable in these polls, I mean, this is the point that I've been making this entire election cycle, This election is really not about Donald Trump.

01:04:30.000 It's really about his opponents.

01:04:31.000 Donald Trump has polled consistently between 45 and 48 percent in pretty much every poll.

01:04:36.000 He's polling better now than he ever has in the past.

01:04:38.000 He's up in the 48, 49, 50 percent range in virtually every national poll.

01:04:42.000 What do you think could change in the next two weeks?

01:04:44.000 And if you had to hazard a guess, do you think that it benefits Trump or do you think that it benefits Harris?

01:04:50.000 Well, you have to understand why would they do something like that?

01:04:54.000 I want to lay out that I no longer believe elections are about persuasion.

01:04:58.000 I think they're only about persuasion to turn out.

01:05:00.000 If you think about what they're drawing out here in terms of who is this going to turn out, that is the lens in which you've got to understand why they would bring these things up.

01:05:12.000 Some of the things that Donald Trump has said is the exact reason that he is appealing to men of color right now.

01:05:19.000 They actually risk Turning out more men of color by bringing out things that might sound ridiculous or outrageous to a certain segment of the voters that already hate Donald Trump, it might actually backfire on them and make some of these non-white men go, that dude's actually pretty cool, and come out. 0.59

01:05:36.000 And I know that sounds completely ridiculous, but that is how elections are run now, is you do and say things and advertise All for the purpose of getting a segment of the voters to look up, pay attention, and show up to vote, not because they worked for Kamala and now they're going to vote for Donald Trump.

01:05:55.000 Well, that is Brent Buchanan.

01:05:58.000 He does a wonderful job as president and founder of Signal.

01:06:00.000 Thank you so much for your time and insight.

01:06:02.000 Really appreciate it.

01:06:04.000 Thanks, Ben.

01:06:05.000 Joining us online is my friend and mentor, Glenn Beck.

01:06:08.000 Glenn, it's great to talk to you.

01:06:09.000 It's been a while.

01:06:09.000 Mentor?

01:06:10.000 I know.

01:06:11.000 How are you?

01:06:13.000 Yeah, well, I mean, we've both gotten old, dude.

01:06:15.000 I mean, we've been around for a while.

01:06:17.000 You don't look it.

01:06:19.000 You don't look it.

01:06:20.000 It's good to talk to you, Ben.

01:06:22.000 Thank you.

01:06:24.000 So I want to jump into the book with you and just want to see a brand new book out called Propaganda Wars.

01:06:28.000 First, I got to get your take on the election, obviously.

01:06:32.000 So it feels like Donald Trump has momentum.

01:06:33.000 We're about a week and a half out from the election.

01:06:36.000 And now the oppo dumps have begun.

01:06:38.000 Where do you think we stand?

01:06:40.000 I think things look good for the president.

01:06:44.000 I hate to say that.

01:06:45.000 I feel like I don't want to jinx anything.

01:06:48.000 But I think all the momentum is going his way.

01:06:52.000 I think the interview on Joe Rogan on Friday could either throw things off the track or put it right in place to where he will win.

01:07:03.000 Kamala is just running a horrible campaign, and everything that they're doing now shows they're just grasping at straws.

01:07:13.000 Well, Glenn, obviously, I agree.

01:07:16.000 The danger for the country, obviously, if Harris wins, I think people, they feel it.

01:07:21.000 And this sort of fake joy that was supposed to be infusing all of us the moment that Joe Biden was summarily executed and thrown off the back of the political bus.

01:07:31.000 It's so strange.

01:07:32.000 And my new book is called Propaganda Wars.

01:07:34.000 And you see this happening just in the last few months.

01:07:41.000 When Donald Trump survived the assassination, he was exuberant.

01:07:49.000 He was strong.

01:07:52.000 The convention happened.

01:07:54.000 And you actually felt joy from that convention.

01:07:58.000 It was happy.

01:07:59.000 It was like a Reagan convention, almost.

01:08:02.000 And then the Democrats wanted to fake that whole thing. 0.97

01:08:07.000 These people are so incredibly fake.

01:08:10.000 And so they went on the Joy campaign, and that thing has just fallen apart. 0.99

01:08:15.000 And they're right back to, you know, okay, he's the devil. 0.92

01:08:21.000 And he's Hitler. 0.95

01:08:22.000 He's Mussolini.

01:08:23.000 He's every bad person we can think of, except for Mao, because we kind of like Mao.

01:08:28.000 I mean, it's incredible how they have taken this and used the press.

01:08:36.000 It's never been more clear that it is a propaganda arm of, I would say, the Democratic Party, but more importantly now, the government.

01:08:46.000 It is an arm of the government of the United States of America.

01:08:51.000 Glenn, you can see this in action actually just today.

01:08:55.000 Obviously, The Atlantic, using Jeffrey Goldberg, who of course is a stenographer for the Democratic Party, puts out this crazy story that is completely unverified by any actual source about Donald Trump apparently cursing the memory and the family of a slain Woman of Latino origin who is an American soldier.

01:09:12.000 And Trump, by the testimony of the family, was always great to them, very nice to them.

01:09:16.000 Everybody who's in the room denies that this is actually what happened.

01:09:19.000 They run with it anyway.

01:09:20.000 CBS News leads with it.

01:09:21.000 The complete manufacturing of narrative, which you talk about in Propaganda Wars, it really is insane.

01:09:27.000 And it is making us insane.

01:09:28.000 I mean, it makes us feel gaslit.

01:09:30.000 It makes us feel like, what the hell is going on around us?

01:09:33.000 What exactly are you supposed to believe when your sources of information are so corrupted?

01:09:36.000 But you and I have been doing this long enough now, Ben, that we both know it's at its end.

01:09:43.000 The American people are on to it.

01:09:46.000 And I was just talking to former Prime Minister Liz Truss today because we were talking about the collusion now between the Labour Party and the UK government and our government with Harris campaign and the Biden White House of trying to literally kill Elon Musk's Twitter.

01:10:09.000 Also, the the collusion on strategizing the campaigns and things.

01:10:16.000 This is this is a major problem now where our governments and like minded socialist leaders and globalist leaders are all working together and leaving their people behind.

01:10:31.000 It's not a coincidence.

01:10:33.000 We all have these borders that are being overrun and our governments are treating anyone who says, hey, this isn't what I voted for.

01:10:41.000 This doesn't seem good for my country.

01:10:44.000 The politicians treat them as second class citizens that need to be shut up.

01:10:50.000 And the media calls it all far right extremists that are saying that.

01:10:55.000 That's what's happening in the entire West.

01:10:57.000 This is not about Republicans or Democrats.

01:11:00.000 This is about a global effort by big business, big politicians, the governments, and the media all over the Western world colluding to fundamentally change the West into a place where we become serfs.

01:11:24.000 Glenn, I think that's totally right, especially when you say it feels like it's coming to an end.

01:11:27.000 You can feel that it's coming to an end because the disconnect between the sort of distraction tactics, the shiny objects that the propaganda machine would love for you to pay attention to, and the actual quality of daily life has become too broad for people to take.

01:11:39.000 It's that gap that has emerged that has made people unable to ingest the propaganda anymore. 0.97

01:11:44.000 When things are going basically okay, Okay, then whatever narrative you're throwing out there, maybe that's my concern of the day, but it turns out that when bad things are happening in the country and you can feel them in your life, then whatever stupid thing you're saying Donald Trump said today, it does not matter to me. 0.97

01:11:56.000 I had this experience last night. 0.94

01:11:58.000 I talked about it a little bit on the show today.

01:11:59.000 We're out in LA today because I was at UCLA and doing some media out here and went out to dinner last night.

01:12:05.000 Fairly nice area of the city, well-lit area.

01:12:07.000 We finish dinner at like 10.30 at night.

01:12:09.000 We have 24-7 security the same way you do, but my friends don't.

01:12:11.000 So we walk down one side of the street.

01:12:13.000 My friends go back to their car.

01:12:15.000 They walk about 25 feet.

01:12:16.000 They get into their car.

01:12:17.000 The minute they get in their car, a white Hyundai pulls up in front of them.

01:12:20.000 Three young black men, I give the race because they're still suspects at large, jump out of the car, grab my friend out of his car.

01:12:25.000 This is last night.

01:12:26.000 Grab my friend out of his car, grab his watch, grab his wallet, grab his keys, grab his phone.

01:12:30.000 They then rush around to my friend's wife. 1.00

01:12:33.000 They start trying to assault her and take her stuff.

01:12:35.000 She screams and she kicks and then realizing it's going to be a bit of a fight. 1.00

01:12:38.000 They get in the car and they and they run away.

01:12:40.000 They are still at large.

01:12:41.000 And I'm supposed to care this morning that Donald Trump said something that John Kelly didn't like.

01:12:46.000 And I'm supposed to believe that Donald Trump is hit layering him.

01:12:49.000 Like, give me give me a break.

01:12:50.000 Just give me a break. 0.98

01:12:50.000 It's ridiculous. 0.98

01:12:51.000 It is. 0.92

01:12:52.000 It's in the Declaration of Independence, the second paragraph.

01:12:56.000 I can't remember.

01:12:57.000 I'm going to badly paraphrase it.

01:12:58.000 But people will put up with these usurptations, these problems, the loss of freedom and the things they don't like until they just are not bearable any longer.

01:13:10.000 We don't want to have conflict as people.

01:13:13.000 We don't like change as people.

01:13:15.000 But there comes a time when you realize this is going to destroy the life that I know if I don't stand up, and we're at that point right now.

01:13:25.000 But the media and the governments, the Democratic Party, are trying to gaslight you to make you feel like you're crazy.

01:13:34.000 The good news is, while they've tried to separate us from talking to one another, it's not like it was during COVID. COVID changed things for the worse, and then later...

01:13:45.000 Actually changed it, I think, for the better.

01:13:47.000 People started talking and going, you know, this doesn't make any sense.

01:13:50.000 Now that we're talking, the propaganda machine has got to silence the voices.

01:13:57.000 And that's why Der Spiegel, when they said last weekend that Elon Musk is target number one, or sorry, target number two, Donald Trump is target number one, he's absolutely right.

01:14:10.000 He is one of the last people that can actually stand at the gate and keep that gate of free exchange and ideas open.

01:14:21.000 If he's gone, you know, what happens, Ben?

01:14:27.000 One of the things that we talk about in...

01:14:31.000 Go ahead.

01:14:32.000 I'm sorry.

01:14:32.000 I was going to say, when it comes to Elon, one of the things that you can see in terms of the propaganda war against him is just the way that the media swivel on people the minute that they express politics that are unpopular.

01:14:41.000 So for a while, Elon was the toast of the town because, of course, Elon is doing amazing things like starting a giant electric car company and launching things into space and all this kind of stuff.

01:14:50.000 And now it's like they're running pieces about the white supremacy inherent in rocket launches because they have to do whatever they can to stop him because he has now crossed the propaganda machine.

01:15:01.000 And it's bizarre to believe and to see how many people buy into that on the left. 0.99

01:15:09.000 There is true mental illness in this country.

01:15:15.000 They have been so frightened, terrified, whatever, that they are no longer seeing logic.

01:15:22.000 They don't know how to think through.

01:15:25.000 They're just living in the lizard brain, which is really, really...

01:15:29.000 Disturbing for so many people.

01:15:32.000 One of the things I want to make sure I hit is deepfakes. 1.00

01:15:36.000 I've been talking about deepfakes and AI now since the 90s.

01:15:41.000 And we are finally here.

01:15:43.000 There have been 4 billion people that have gone to the polls in the Western world this year.

01:15:50.000 4 billion people are voting.

01:15:52.000 It's more than at any other time in human history.

01:15:56.000 And deepfakes have reared their ugly head in several elections outside of the United States.

01:16:04.000 And I fear the pattern is with these deepfakes that they happen the day before or the day before the day before the election.

01:16:14.000 They usually happen within two days.

01:16:17.000 And they have thrown chaos into these elections.

01:16:22.000 And we talk about it and all All of the ramifications of deepfakes and everything that the government is doing in conjunction with some of the really evil players in the world in propaganda wars.

01:16:38.000 And I urge you to tell your listeners and tell everybody you know, don't believe anything even if it comes out for your side in the last two days.

01:16:52.000 Because you won't have any time to verify.

01:16:55.000 And even if it comes out for Donald Trump against Harris, don't believe it.

01:17:01.000 Don't spread it.

01:17:02.000 Because this is an extraordinarily dangerous thing.

01:17:08.000 Well, folks, go check out the brand new book, Propaganda Wars, already soaring up the bestseller charts.

01:17:12.000 Of course, it's a Glenn Beck book.

01:17:13.000 So, of course, it is Propaganda Wars, How the Global Elite Control What You See, Think, and Feel.

01:17:17.000 Glenn, really appreciate the time.

01:17:18.000 Thanks for stopping by.

01:17:19.000 Congrats on the book.

01:17:20.000 You bet.

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01:18:51.000 I don't think you necessarily can.

01:18:53.000 They get past all the talk about racism.

01:18:56.000 We have to love each other.

01:18:57.000 It can't be that simple.

01:18:58.000 How do we get to a point of racial harmony? 0.60

01:19:02.000 It's good to talk to you.

01:19:05.000 We're still on a journey, all of us together.

01:19:06.000 I think you've got some journeying to do.

01:19:08.000 Just talk to me about the statistics.

01:19:10.000 We have an epidemic.

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