The Ben Shapiro Show - Bulls*** Charges and The Blue Flu | Ep. 1034

00:00:00.000 The Supreme Court strikes down the Trump administration, striking down Obama's DACA program.

00:00:04.000 The Atlanta DA charges an officer for murder after the officer shoots a man who stole a police taser and fired it at him.

00:00:10.000 And Atlanta police officers reportedly walk off the job.

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00:00:28.000 We're going to get to all the news.

00:00:29.000 And boy, is there a lot of news today.

00:00:31.000 Man, this news cycle is just insane.

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00:00:35.000 We're going to get to all of that in just one second.

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00:01:51.000 Okay, so we'll get to everything that is happening in Atlanta in just a second because it is chaotic and it is also an excellent indicator of where America's major cities are going.

00:02:01.000 Now let's just say it's not in good directions.

00:02:03.000 We'll get to that in a second.

00:02:03.000 First, the breaking news as of this hour is the Supreme Court has just ruled that President Trump does not have the ability to strike down the Obama administration's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

00:02:14.000 Now, that's not really what the Supreme Court said.

00:02:16.000 What the Supreme Court actually said is that Trump could do it, but he did it wrong.

00:02:20.000 So the Supreme Court has taken up a line of cases recently that basically says, orange man bad.

00:02:24.000 In other words, if the orange man did it right, it would be okay what he did.

00:02:27.000 But he did it wrong, so it's not okay what he did.

00:02:30.000 That is what this case is.

00:02:31.000 So you will recall that Barack Obama claimed dozens of times, literally dozens of times, that he did not have the unilateral ability to simply legalize illegal immigrants in the United States.

00:02:40.000 And then he ignored all of that and he just said, okay, you know what?

00:02:43.000 We're not prosecuting anybody who's here illegally.

00:02:45.000 We're just not going to do it.

00:02:46.000 If you are between the ages of 16 and 30, if you came here as a child, we are not going to prosecute you.

00:02:50.000 We are not going to deport you.

00:02:51.000 Now, maybe that's good policy.

00:02:53.000 Maybe it's not.

00:02:54.000 But that's something Congress has to do.

00:02:56.000 You don't just get to do that as President of the United States, decide that an entire class of human beings are no longer prosecutable because you're the President of the United States.

00:03:03.000 That violates every statutory rule of interpretation.

00:03:06.000 It just does not work that way.

00:03:07.000 And the Obama administration offered no real justification for this.

00:03:11.000 They didn't offer any sort of legal memorandum explaining why the law required this, which you're supposed to do if you're the executive branch, because you execute the laws, you don't make them.

00:03:19.000 Instead, they just declared that they would start handing out papers, that they would start protecting you from deportation and all the rest.

00:03:27.000 So the Trump administration comes in and they say, listen, we're reversing this.

00:03:30.000 This is illegal.

00:03:31.000 Jeff Sessions' Justice Department says this is no longer legal.

00:03:34.000 We are rescinding this.

00:03:35.000 This is not correct.

00:03:36.000 The Department of Homeland Security rescinds the DAPA memo in June 2017, citing the fact that it is unconstitutional and that the federal government, the executive branch, does not have the power to unilaterally declare who they will and will not prosecute on a class.

00:03:49.000 It's one thing to pardon somebody.

00:03:51.000 It's one thing to commute a sentence.

00:03:52.000 It's one thing to use prosecutorial discretion.

00:03:55.000 It is another thing to completely invalidate a law just because you don't like the law.

00:03:59.000 That's not something that the executive branch has the power to do.

00:04:02.000 That September, in September of 2017, the Attorney General, who was then Jeff Sessions, advised the Acting Secretary of Homeland Security, Elaine Duke, that DACA shared legal flaws and should be rescinded.

00:04:13.000 The next day, Duke acted on that advice and wrote the so-called Duke Memo, which basically suggests that the thing's unconstitutional.

00:04:20.000 And then, a few months later, there was something called the Nielsen Memo, and the Nielsen Memo came out, that was from the new Department of Homeland Security Secretary, Nielsen, Bridget Nielsen.

00:04:27.000 And that more fully explained the rationale for rescinding DACA.

00:04:31.000 So there's nothing illegal about what the Trump administration did.

00:04:33.000 They said this is an illegal order.

00:04:35.000 It was poorly formulated.

00:04:37.000 It was never legal in the first place.

00:04:39.000 Obama himself had said it was never legal in the first place.

00:04:42.000 And so the Supreme Court has now held that you're not allowed to rescind an illegal order unless you go through all of the hoops of the Administrative Procedures Act.

00:04:49.000 So the Administrative Procedures Act is basically an act that creates internal judicial mechanisms for administrative agencies.

00:04:56.000 So let's say that the EPA promulgates a rule, and you want to sue the EPA because you don't like the EPA's rule.

00:05:00.000 You have to sue them in an EPA court, essentially.

00:05:03.000 Well, the same thing holds true here is that the administrative agencies are tasked with defining their own regulations and their own rules, and a court is not supposed to interfere.

00:05:12.000 This is called the Chevron Doctrine.

00:05:14.000 The court is not supposed to interfere in the decision-making processes of administrative agencies unless the administrative agency has been arbitrary and capricious.

00:05:22.000 is generally the standard that is used.

00:05:24.000 Well, the problem is this.

00:05:25.000 The Obama administration did not provide any rationale for why DACA was constitutional.

00:05:29.000 So they were arbitrary and capricious.

00:05:31.000 But the Supreme Court didn't find them arbitrary and capricious.

00:05:33.000 So now, they're saying that the Trump administration was arbitrary and capricious in rejecting an illegal order from the Obama administration.

00:05:41.000 So in other words, it was okay for Obama to put forward an illegal order saying we won't enforce the law.

00:05:45.000 It is very bad for Trump to put forward an illegal order saying we will enforce the law and we'll take back the old illegal order.

00:05:50.000 That is basically the rationale of the court.

00:05:53.000 Justice Thomas just wrecks it today. 0.97

00:05:54.000 I mean, Justice Thomas looks at this and he says, you guys are insane. 0.91

00:05:58.000 You've basically made it that your rationale is orange man bad. 0.50

00:06:01.000 You don't like Trump, and so you're just not going to enforce the law.

00:06:04.000 He says, DHS created DACA during the Obama administration without any statutory authorization, without going through the requisite rulemaking process.

00:06:11.000 As a result, the program was unlawful from its inception.

00:06:14.000 The majority does not even attempt to explain why a court has the authority to scrutinize an agency's policy reasons for sending an unlawful program under the arbitrary and capricious microscope.

00:06:23.000 The decision to countermand an unlawful agency action is clearly reasonable.

00:06:27.000 So long as the agency's determination of illegality is sound, our view should be at an end.

00:06:31.000 In other words, if it is plausible for the agency, in this case DHS, to say that this is in illegal order, then we don't get to review whether it's in illegal order because they've made the determination.

00:06:42.000 So if you're using the loose standard that they get to decide that things are randomly legal, like ignoring the law, Then you can't suddenly tighten the standard and say, OK, and by the way, if you go back to enforcing the law, then that's illegal now.

00:06:53.000 Thomas says today's decision must be recognized for what it is, an effort to avoid a politically controversial but legally correct decision.

00:06:58.000 The court could have made clear that the solution respondents seek must come from the legislative branch.

00:07:03.000 In other words, if you don't like immigration policy in the United States, then why don't you go to the legislative branch?

00:07:08.000 I mean, Congress exists.

00:07:09.000 Instead, the Supreme Court has been irrigating more and more power to itself.

00:07:13.000 That's been the story of the last several days at the Supreme Court, is the Supreme Court basically deciding that Congress isn't doing the Equality Act, so Justice Gorsuch will do the Equality Act.

00:07:22.000 They'll just rewrite the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and read into its sexual orientation and gender identity, neither of which are in, or were even remotely thought to be, within the scope of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

00:07:33.000 We don't like the legislature not doing what we want it to do, so we're just going to rewrite the law.

00:07:37.000 It's what Justice Roberts did when he rewrote Obamacare to make it a tax instead of a fee.

00:07:42.000 Right.

00:07:42.000 He suggested, oh, you know what?

00:07:44.000 I don't really like what Congress did here.

00:07:46.000 So I'm just going to rewrite what Congress did here instead of just striking it down and sending it back to Congress.

00:07:50.000 And now the court is doing this with DACA.

00:07:53.000 They're saying, we kind of like what Obama did.

00:07:54.000 We kind of didn't like what Trump did.

00:07:56.000 Instead of us just sending it back to Congress and saying, take care of business, we're just going to take care of it ourselves.

00:08:01.000 So the Supreme Court keeps irrigating power to itself.

00:08:03.000 Now you may be saying to yourself, wait a second, who is the swing vote here?

00:08:06.000 I was reliably informed that there are five Republican appointees to the Supreme Court.

00:08:11.000 Namely, Justices Roberts, Kavanaugh, Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, right?

00:08:16.000 Those were all Republican appointees.

00:08:17.000 That is a majority of the Supreme Court.

00:08:19.000 Guess who the swing vote was again?

00:08:20.000 Swing vote, Justice Roberts.

00:08:20.000 It was 5-4.

00:08:22.000 Of course, of course.

00:08:23.000 Because Justice Roberts is constantly in the mode of, we want to basically leave policy where it lay before.

00:08:31.000 That's Justice Roberts' big thing.

00:08:33.000 He thinks that judicial activism is overturning current action.

00:08:37.000 He doesn't think of judicial activism as completely rewriting the law for political purposes.

00:08:42.000 Roberts is just a disaster area on the court.

00:08:44.000 Now, when I say disaster area, he still votes with his colleagues 80% of the time.

00:08:48.000 But that extra 20% makes an awful lot of difference, doesn't it?

00:08:51.000 In Obamacare, in this particular case.

00:08:53.000 So here's what we have on the court.

00:08:55.000 We have five Republican appointees, and we have a grand total of two reliable constitutionalist voices on the court.

00:09:02.000 Justices Thomas and Alito.

00:09:04.000 That's it.

00:09:05.000 We don't know where Kavanaugh is yet.

00:09:07.000 It's still early on Kavanaugh.

00:09:08.000 So we're waiting on Kavanaugh.

00:09:10.000 Colored me a little bit skeptical that Kavanaugh is going to be anywhere in the league of Alito or Thomas.

00:09:14.000 And then you've got Justice Roberts, who's been a full-scale David Souter.

00:09:17.000 And then you have Justice Gorsuch, who's been very good except in this one case, where he was really, really, really bad.

00:09:26.000 Overtly anti-textualist in doing so.

00:09:28.000 And all the attempts to rewrite Justice Gorsuch's opinion there to say, oh no, he was being textualist, he was just being talmudic about it.

00:09:34.000 No, no, no.

00:09:35.000 If you have to, if you overtly say no one could possibly have interpreted this law as I am interpreting it now when it was written, you're not a textualist.

00:09:43.000 You are magically now rewriting the rules.

00:09:45.000 You're rewriting the laws.

00:09:46.000 That's left to the legislature.

00:09:49.000 So bottom line is that this has some pretty significant ramifications for President Trump for a couple of reasons.

00:09:54.000 One, because the big pitch for Republican policymakers, and this has been true for a long time, the big pitch has been, listen, we may not do a lot when we're in Congress.

00:10:03.000 In fact, we're pretty much going to do nothing.

00:10:04.000 But the things that we are going to do are tax cuts and judges.

00:10:07.000 You're going to get some tax cuts, which is great, nice.

00:10:10.000 And we're going to give you textualist, originalist judges who are going to protect your rights.

00:10:14.000 Well, listen, there are a lot of appeals courts where presumably that is happening.

00:10:18.000 There are a lot more judges than just the Supreme Court.

00:10:20.000 But suffice it to say that three of the last four judges that Republicans have appointed from the presidency are questionable.

00:10:26.000 Three of the last four.

00:10:28.000 And if you go back further than that, then you have to take into account Stevens, you have to take into account Souter, you have to take into account Justice O'Connor, you have to take into account Justice Kennedy. 0.99

00:10:38.000 In other words, Republicans suck at this.

00:10:40.000 So if you think that voting Republican is a guarantee that the Supreme Court is going to be your bulwark for liberty, Wrongo. 0.97

00:10:47.000 Wrongo.

00:10:48.000 What you should be demanding of your Republican legislators is actual conservative legislation, actually standing up and protecting your rights at the legislative level, not just saying, listen, we're not going to do much over here, but you can rely on the justices we pick because clearly that ain't true.

00:10:59.000 Clearly that is not the case.

00:11:01.000 So one of the chief kind of mechanisms for gaining Republican votes turns out fairly flawed, fairly flawed.

00:11:07.000 And Republicans have a, Republican voters have an absolute right to point out that it's insufficient for you to say you're going to appoint conservative judges because frankly, we have no idea whether that's true or not.

00:11:16.000 By the way, only one person I know, me, has opposed two of the last four Republican judges appointed.

00:11:22.000 I opposed Kavanaugh, I opposed Roberts.

00:11:24.000 So, anyway, we'll see where Kavanaugh ends up.

00:11:26.000 In coming up, we're going to talk about Atlanta, where things are going south in a hurry.

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00:12:42.000 Okay, so the Supreme Court, another pillar of American life that is consistently being undermined by people who staff it, so that's exciting stuff.

00:12:49.000 Meanwhile, Things are coming to a head with regard to the situation in the United States regarding police.

00:12:54.000 So, the lie has been purveyed.

00:12:56.000 That police officers are broadly racist and brutal.

00:12:58.000 It is a lie.

00:12:59.000 It is an overt lie.

00:13:00.000 The evidence of this is scanty at best.

00:13:03.000 The fact that lots of people around the United States have cameras and that you can identify a few dozen cases of police brutality in a country where there are 375 million interactions between the police and civilians on a yearly basis.

00:13:20.000 That is not statistical evidence.

00:13:22.000 And yet we have pressed forward with the idea that the police are the problem in the United States.

00:13:26.000 That the police are the problem.

00:13:27.000 So we've seen a historic crime decline in the United States from 1994 all the way till now, right?

00:13:31.000 With a couple of bumps, particularly the Ferguson time, right?

00:13:35.000 Ferguson 2014-2015, Baltimore 2014-2015.

00:13:39.000 But we've seen historic crime decreases.

00:13:41.000 Why?

00:13:42.000 Because the police were staffed up from 1994 and on.

00:13:44.000 There were more police.

00:13:45.000 They were better funded.

00:13:46.000 There were more of them in high crime areas.

00:13:48.000 They were using smarter policing tactics.

00:13:50.000 And so we've decided that it's time to do away with all that because obviously the big problem, particularly facing black Americans, is not high levels of crime in black communities. 0.96

00:13:59.000 It is not poor schools in black communities.

00:14:01.000 It is not single motherhood in black communities.

00:14:03.000 It is not any of these things.

00:14:04.000 The real issue that creates income inequality and wealth inequality in the United States is systemic American racism beginning with the bleeding edge, the cops.

00:14:12.000 And so the best thing that can happen is for the cops to go away, presumably.

00:14:14.000 And this is where the defund the police movement comes from.

00:14:17.000 If the police are the problem, remove the problem, and then you don't have to worry about it anymore.

00:14:20.000 Well, we're about to find out how this is going to work, because we have now decided to make it impossible for police officers to do their job in this country.

00:14:26.000 That's what we have decided.

00:14:27.000 So a few days ago, you'll recall that there was a big controversy.

00:14:30.000 It was over the weekend.

00:14:31.000 I believe Friday.

00:14:32.000 There was a shooting in Atlanta.

00:14:34.000 The shooting involved a suspect named Rayshard Brooks.

00:14:38.000 Rayshard Brooks had a very long criminal record.

00:14:40.000 This is relevant because when you drive up on somebody with a very long criminal record, you're obviously going to treat it with caution.

00:14:45.000 Rayshard Brooks had a long rap sheet, including obstructing police battery, possession of firearm, and commission of crime, drug dealing, and multiple thefts.

00:14:52.000 So they drive up on Rayshard Brooks because somebody at the local Wendy's called and said, there's a guy who's asleep in our drive-thru, he's obstructing traffic, and he's behind the wheel of a car.

00:15:01.000 He was out on parole, by the way.

00:15:02.000 So a violation of parole means he goes back to jail.

00:15:05.000 The police officers arrive for 25 minutes.

00:15:07.000 They have a nice discussion with Rayshard Brooks.

00:15:10.000 They ask him to walk a line.

00:15:12.000 He can't do it.

00:15:13.000 They ask him to take a breathalyzer.

00:15:14.000 I believe he refuses.

00:15:18.000 The conversation is cordial and extraordinarily long, like for 20 minutes, more, 25 minutes.

00:15:24.000 They talk with this guy.

00:15:25.000 Then they go to cuff him because they say, you know what?

00:15:27.000 No, we're not sending you home in an Uber.

00:15:28.000 You were drunk driving.

00:15:29.000 Drunk driving, by the way, is a very dangerous crime.

00:15:32.000 I'm unaware of why it is that we are... Are we supposed to let drunk drivers off now?

00:15:35.000 Like, if you're driving drunk, are we just supposed to send you home in an Uber?

00:15:37.000 Is that the way this works anymore?

00:15:39.000 I mean, imagine that you send him home in an Uber.

00:15:41.000 The next night, he kills someone in a drunk driving accident.

00:15:42.000 Guess who gets blamed?

00:15:43.000 The cops, right?

00:15:44.000 No matter how this thing turns out, the cops get blamed.

00:15:47.000 So, they're talking with him.

00:15:49.000 It goes on for a long time.

00:15:50.000 They're obviously not attempting to get into a confrontation.

00:15:53.000 They call for backup.

00:15:55.000 Right?

00:15:55.000 And this goes on, and on, and on, and on.

00:15:57.000 Then they go to arrest him and he realizes, oh wait, I'm on parole.

00:16:00.000 If they arrest me, I'm going back to jail.

00:16:03.000 And he starts to resist arrest.

00:16:05.000 And he resists arrest by taking down both of the cops who are surrounding him.

00:16:08.000 He brings them both to the ground.

00:16:10.000 He then proceeds.

00:16:11.000 He starts resisting.

00:16:12.000 He's got his arms behind his back.

00:16:13.000 Then he breaks loose.

00:16:14.000 And you can see it in the video.

00:16:15.000 I'm showing you the video right now.

00:16:17.000 He breaks loose.

00:16:18.000 He steals a taser off of one of the police officers.

00:16:21.000 They try to tase him in the leg.

00:16:22.000 One of them tries to tase him in the leg.

00:16:23.000 It doesn't work.

00:16:26.000 Then he grabs the taser.

00:16:28.000 He wrestles away from both officers, and he somehow gets loose of both officers, and he starts to run.

00:16:33.000 So you're going to see him again toss these big men, Rayshard Brooks it appears.

00:16:39.000 And that only matters because, again, this is a physical confrontation.

00:16:43.000 He breaks loose, and he takes off.

00:16:45.000 The police start to chase him.

00:16:47.000 And then you can see in the tape, he literally turns around, he fires the taser at the cop, and immediately the cop shoots him.

00:16:55.000 That's the entire confrontation.

00:16:57.000 That is a good shoot.

00:16:58.000 I've talked to a bevy of police officers. 0.89

00:17:00.000 Every single one of them told me it is within police procedures that if someone takes your taser off of you and tries to tase you, you can shoot them.

00:17:06.000 Because that is a threat of deadly force.

00:17:08.000 How do you know that that's a threat of deadly force?

00:17:09.000 Because if someone shoots you with a taser, first of all, a taser could theoretically be a deadly weapon.

00:17:13.000 As it turns out, you hit somebody the right way with a taser, they die.

00:17:16.000 But, beyond that, if a person has shown the willingness to take a weapon off your body, and they shoot you with a taser, and you have a gun on your body, There is the significant possibility... You don't have to lie there prone, waiting to see if the criminal is going to be a nice guy and continue walking down the street.

00:17:30.000 That's not how any of this works.

00:17:32.000 According to Atlanta Police Department, official procedure, you're allowed to defend your life if there is the danger of significant bodily harm to yourself or somebody else.

00:17:42.000 So, that's the case.

00:17:44.000 That's the whole case.

00:17:45.000 Now, there's some additional question as to what happened after they shot him.

00:17:49.000 As we will see.

00:17:50.000 But that's the tape, right?

00:17:51.000 That's the important tape.

00:17:52.000 If you're going to charge someone, that's the tape upon which you charge somebody.

00:17:55.000 Well, it turns out that they have decided to charge that officer.

00:17:59.000 And they might put him on death row for that.

00:18:01.000 They might put him on death row.

00:18:03.000 I'm going to get to the actual details of this because it's perfectly insane. 0.82

00:18:07.000 It's perfectly insane.

00:18:08.000 And again, it demonstrates why social and quote-unquote racial justice are not justice.

00:18:12.000 Justice is, you get what you deserve.

00:18:14.000 Racial justice is, you're a white police officer, you did something justifiable, but you did it to a black guy in the middle of a massive national controversy over policing and race. 0.93

00:18:22.000 And therefore, we are going to try you for murder. 0.90

00:18:25.000 For felony murder.

00:18:26.000 For defending yourself from a guy who stole your taser and shot it at you in the middle of an arrest after he was arrested for a DUI.

00:18:33.000 Really, This is great stuff for the country.

00:18:36.000 Really healing all racial wounds and fixing our policing problem. 0.59

00:18:39.000 All at once.

00:18:40.000 Incredible work, everyone.

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00:18:55.000 It has everything to do with the DA being in the middle of a hard-fought re-election battle and being under investigation by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

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00:20:20.000 That police officer, right, in that case, has now been charged with felony murder as well as 11 other charges.

00:20:27.000 His name is Garrett Rolfe, he's 27.

00:20:29.000 He is charged with murder in Brooks' death.

00:20:32.000 He could face life in prison or the death penalty for shooting a man who broke away from police custody, resisted arrest, stole a taser, and tried to taser him. 1.00

00:20:40.000 And now the DA is just, he's either a liar or an idiot. 1.00

00:20:43.000 I'm gonna go with a liar. 1.00

00:20:45.000 And he's following in the footsteps of the mayor. 1.00

00:20:47.000 The mayor is just awful, obviously.

00:20:51.000 The mayor of Atlanta, she suggested right away, her last name is Bottoms.

00:20:55.000 I'm trying to remember her first name.

00:20:57.000 She said right after this that the shooting was unjust.

00:21:01.000 Based on nothing.

00:21:02.000 Because we've all seen the tape.

00:21:04.000 Doesn't matter.

00:21:05.000 She said it was unjust right away.

00:21:08.000 While there may be debate as to whether this was an appropriate use of deadly force, I firmly believe that there is a clear distinction between what you can do and what you should do.

00:21:23.000 I do not believe that this was a justified use of deadly force and have called for the immediate termination of the officer.

00:21:33.000 So she fired the officer right away, and then she declared that it was a murder, essentially.

00:21:37.000 And then the DA picked up on that.

00:21:40.000 And the reason that the DA picked up on that is, again, because the DA is in the middle of a hard-fought re-election battle.

00:21:45.000 He also happens to be under investigation for a corruption case.

00:21:50.000 So, this is so political, it's insane.

00:21:54.000 I mean, back in May, the GBI, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, opened an investigation into the Fulton County District Attorney.

00:22:00.000 The guy's name is Paul Howard.

00:22:02.000 He apparently, allegedly, used a non-profit to funnel at least $140,000 in City of Atlanta funds to supplement his salary, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

00:22:11.000 He's being challenged in the Democratic primary for re-election.

00:22:13.000 He's also facing allegations of sexual harassment, which he strongly denies.

00:22:18.000 So he's in the middle of a bad re-election battle.

00:22:20.000 He's under investigation by the GBI.

00:22:23.000 And so he's decided, you know what, time to make a headline for myself in a different way and pander to black voters by unjustly charging a man.

00:22:31.000 I mean, that's obviously what is going on right here.

00:22:32.000 He's attempting to pander to Democratic primary base voters, particularly black voters, by suggesting that racial justice is being done on behalf of a man who stole a police officer's taser and tried to tase the police officer and then was shot for his trouble.

00:22:44.000 So here are the charges he's being charged with.

00:22:46.000 And we need to actually point this out because the charges conflict.

00:22:49.000 I mean, it's the whole thing is when you hear the DA, you'll see how insane this is.

00:22:53.000 So Rolf is facing a bunch of charges, felony murder.

00:22:57.000 He's also facing aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

00:23:00.000 The offense carries a possible sentence of 1 to 20 years.

00:23:02.000 That is because he shot at him.

00:23:05.000 Aggravated assault for kicking Brooks.

00:23:06.000 So this was the only real bombshell that was released by the DA, is that apparently there's third-party footage of Rolfe kicking the suspect when he's down.

00:23:13.000 Now, the problem is he didn't actually show the footage.

00:23:15.000 All he showed was a still from the footage.

00:23:17.000 So it'd be nice to see the actual footage.

00:23:19.000 But if Brooks was kicked by Rolfe after he'd been shot, that'd be a case for assault.

00:23:26.000 It would not be a case for felony murder.

00:23:27.000 And if he kicked somebody, that doesn't mean he killed them.

00:23:30.000 That is an assault charge, that is not a felony murder charge.

00:23:32.000 But this is my favorite part of the indictment.

00:23:35.000 So the DA, first of all, normally, the way this goes is that the DA works with the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

00:23:40.000 The Georgia Bureau of Investigation does the investigation and then they work with the DA to bring charges.

00:23:44.000 This DA rushed out the charges without consulting with the GBI.

00:23:48.000 Perhaps because the GBI is investigating him right now.

00:23:52.000 And then he just rushed forward and did what no prosecutor is supposed to do.

00:23:55.000 He presented all of the evidence in a very selective fashion.

00:23:59.000 Before this thing has even gone to a grand jury.

00:24:02.000 By the way, the actual result of this is that it will go to a grand jury and it probably will not go forward to prosecution.

00:24:06.000 So he's making a headline right now, and the prosecution probably will not go forward because I cannot imagine a grand jury going along with the idea that you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this officer was involved in a felony murder.

00:24:16.000 That's insane.

00:24:17.000 Okay, but here's my favorite part.

00:24:19.000 He gets aggravated assault, an aggravated assault charge for kicking Brooks, according to an arrest warrant.

00:24:24.000 Rolf was wearing a shoe, quote, which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury.

00:24:32.000 Now, the reason I particularly like this charge is because, as you will see, this DA is claiming that if you fire a taser at somebody, that you are not in threat of serious bodily injury.

00:24:40.000 If you kick somebody, yes, the shoe is a weapon that could be used for serious bodily injury, but a taser is not a weapon that could be used for serious bodily injury.

00:24:49.000 Also, four counts of violation of oath by a public officer, a felony offense under Georgia law, each offense carrying a sentence of one to five years.

00:24:57.000 Prosecutors say that Rolfe broke his oath and didn't follow police department policies when he used a taser as Brooks ran away.

00:25:02.000 Failure to render timely medical aid to Brooks because after he was shot, it took a couple of minutes for them to render medical aid.

00:25:08.000 And failed to tell him he was under arrest for driving under the influence.

00:25:11.000 You know, about the time when you are being arrested for driving under the influence after a 25-minute questioning for driving under the influence, I figured that people might know that they are being put under arrest for driving under the influence, which might be why you resist arrest and run away.

00:25:22.000 I don't understand.

00:25:23.000 Is the implication here that Brooks thought that this guy was going to take him home for dinner?

00:25:27.000 Like he didn't realize what he was being arrested for?

00:25:29.000 What absolute absurdity.

00:25:30.000 By the way, the other officer is now being charged as well.

00:25:33.000 What did the other officer do?

00:25:35.000 He's facing an aggravated assault charge for standing on or stepping on Brooks' shoulder while he was lying on the ground.

00:25:40.000 Which, by the way, we haven't seen the footage of that.

00:25:43.000 Perhaps the reason is because the guy's run before and you don't know if he's actually dying, right?

00:25:47.000 So, we don't know any of that.

00:25:49.000 He's also charged with two violations of oath of office, which is basically just attack on charge.

00:25:52.000 We're gonna get to more of this in just a second, because this sort of bullcrap, we'll get to the DA's statements, it's insane.

00:25:57.000 This sort of bullcrap charge has a real consequence for policing.

00:26:01.000 And the DA also happens to be lying about some of the facts here.

00:26:03.000 So we'll get to that in a moment.

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00:27:16.000 Okay, so so this particular this particular indictment, the charges are just absurd.

00:27:25.000 They're absurd on virtually every level.

00:27:28.000 And the DA, his presentation of the facts are just crazy.

00:27:31.000 So the DA says, at the time that Rayshard Brooks was shot, he didn't pose an immediate threat of death or injury to the officer.

00:27:36.000 In fact, the DA actually said that he was very calm and collected in his interaction with the police.

00:27:41.000 That's true up until the point he tries to break away from the police, takes two of them to the ground, takes a taser off the body of one of them, and then tries to shoot the other.

00:27:48.000 Up until then, it was going fine.

00:27:51.000 How's it going, they asked the man who had just jumped from the seventh story.

00:27:54.000 On the fourth story, he said, everything's going fine so far.

00:27:57.000 The interaction was good until it was not good.

00:28:00.000 This is insane.

00:28:01.000 Here is the Fulton County D.A.

00:28:02.000 who should summarily be dismissed from his job for this prosecution.

00:28:05.000 It's an absurdity.

00:28:06.000 It's an absurdity from the outset, from the get-go.

00:28:08.000 It's all on tape.

00:28:09.000 This is crazy.

00:28:10.000 Here's the Fulton County D.A. 1.00

00:28:11.000 just saying an idiotic thing. 0.93

00:28:14.000 Based on the way that these officers conducted themselves while Mr. Brooks was lying there, that the demeanor of the officers immediately after the shooting did not reflect any fear or danger of Mr. Brooks, we've concluded at the time Mr. Brooks was shot, 0.97

00:28:37.000 That he did not pose an immediate threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or officers.

00:28:47.000 Oh, did you conclude that now?

00:28:48.000 No serious threat of death or injury to the officers.

00:28:51.000 So, again, to get this straight, someone fires a taser at you.

00:28:54.000 That's not a threat of death or immediate injury to the officer, but a shoe is, according to the actual charges filed against the officer.

00:29:01.000 Plus, I will note that two weeks ago, the same DA prosecuted officers on the basis of using a taser and called the taser a deadly weapon.

00:29:09.000 I think my favorite part of this particular clip is that there's a picture of the man who's speaking right behind the man who's speaking, which is one of my favorite things.

00:29:14.000 I always love that sort of stuff.

00:29:15.000 That little detail where there's a picture of you behind you as you speak is pretty spectacular.

00:29:19.000 It's like a Jim Acosta infinite regress of arrogance.

00:29:23.000 Here is this DA.

00:29:25.000 Charged with aggravated assault of Ms.

00:29:29.000 Pilgrim, and this is for pointing a taser at Mrs. Pilgrim. 1.00

00:29:34.000 And as many of you all know, under Georgia law, a taser is considered as a deadly weapon under Georgia law.

00:29:43.000 Oh, is it?

00:29:44.000 Is it now?

00:29:45.000 Oh, well, that's weird.

00:29:47.000 Case dismissed, I feel like.

00:29:49.000 But seriously, I mean, like the defense attorneys, all they have to do is play the tape of the D.A.

00:29:52.000 saying this and the case is dismissed.

00:29:54.000 Then he's not just going to lie about that.

00:29:55.000 He also says one officer has become a cooperative witness.

00:29:58.000 So he says this yesterday.

00:29:59.000 He says the second officer is now cooperating with us and is a cooperative state's witness.

00:30:03.000 There's only one problem with this.

00:30:04.000 The attorney says, no, not true.

00:30:07.000 No, that's not that's not the case.

00:30:07.000 We're not.

00:30:08.000 We're not going to cooperate with this D.A.

00:30:09.000 because he's railroading people.

00:30:13.000 Because Officer Brosnan is now becoming a cooperating witness for the state, we are asking the court to grant a bond of $50,000.

00:30:29.000 And to allow Mr. Officer Brosnan to sign that bond, as I indicated, that he would become one of the first police officers to actually indicate that he is willing to testify against someone in his own department.

00:30:47.000 This is a lie.

00:30:48.000 It is not true.

00:30:49.000 The attorney for the other officer, whose name is Devin Brosnan, they said he's cooperating with the Fulton County DA's investigation and met with the ADA yesterday, but he has not agreed to be a state's witness or to testify in any court hearing or to plead guilty to any charge.

00:31:01.000 The decision to initiate charges by the Fulton County DA's office is irrational, obviously based on factors which should have nothing to do with the proper administration of justice.

00:31:08.000 This was not a rush to judgment.

00:31:10.000 It was a rush to misjudgment.

00:31:12.000 According to the lawyer, He also said that Brooks used the taser he took from Brosnan against the officer as he resisted arrest and later ran from the scene.

00:31:20.000 The lawyer says that Brosnan sustained burns from the taser.

00:31:24.000 Samuel also states that when Brooks began to violently resist arrest, Brosnan's head hit the asphalt parking lot, and he was later diagnosed with a concussion.

00:31:29.000 But don't worry, he was not a danger to anyone.

00:31:32.000 Okay, so this is perfectly insane.

00:31:32.000 Brooks.

00:31:34.000 I mean, perfectly, perfectly insane.

00:31:37.000 But apparently, all this is okay.

00:31:39.000 Now, again, the only piece of new evidence that we actually got from the DA yesterday was this still photo of Rolfe kicking Brooks.

00:31:44.000 We haven't seen the actual video, so we don't know what was happening at the time, other than the still photo.

00:31:49.000 So this was the only piece of new evidence, which would suggest that even if that was the case, that he ran up to the guy and kicked him, Apparently, the other piece of evidence he said is that he said to his partner, I got him.

00:31:58.000 Which, by the way, is not evidence that you tried to murder somebody.

00:32:01.000 If you're trying to collar a suspect and the guy fires a taser at you and you shoot him, you say, I got him.

00:32:05.000 That doesn't mean I wanted to murder the black guy I just had a 30-minute conversation with in the parking lot of Wendy's.

00:32:10.000 That is not what that means. 1.00

00:32:12.000 That is not evidence of intent to murder, you idiot. 1.00

00:32:14.000 Okay, so the Fulton County D.A. 1.00

00:32:16.000 put out the kick.

00:32:17.000 Okay, the kick is an assault.

00:32:18.000 So you charge him with assault.

00:32:20.000 That's called an assault.

00:32:21.000 Okay, but you don't charge somebody with felony murder for kicking somebody.

00:32:24.000 That is not, that's not how this works.

00:32:25.000 That's not how this works at all.

00:32:29.000 When we examined the videotape and in our discussions with witnesses, what we discovered is during the two minutes and 12 seconds that Officer Rolfe actually kicked Mr. Brooks while he laid on the ground, while he was there fighting for his life.

00:32:51.000 Okay, and then we don't actually release the tape, we just release the sit hill. 0.96

00:32:54.000 Forgive me if I don't trust this DA, who seems to be completely full of crap, politically motivated, and under investigation by the GBI.

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00:36:42.000 So last night in reaction to the Atlanta DA going after an officer for a fully justified shooting.

00:36:55.000 Put aside what happened after with the kicking.

00:36:57.000 Maybe there's an assault case there.

00:36:59.000 We haven't seen the tape.

00:36:59.000 Don't know.

00:37:00.000 We don't know if somebody was still resisting.

00:37:02.000 We just don't know.

00:37:05.000 Again, we don't know does not mean the officer is innocent of the thing, it means we don't know. 1.00

00:37:09.000 Just to explain that sentence for people who are morons. 0.99

00:37:10.000 That's what that means. 1.00

00:37:12.000 What we do know is that that was a justified shooting because we have the tape of the shooting.

00:37:16.000 Guy's being prosecuted.

00:37:17.000 His partner's being prosecuted.

00:37:18.000 Apparently everybody in a seven-mile radius except for criminals is being prosecuted, so that's exciting stuff.

00:37:22.000 And so, yesterday, last night, the Atlanta PD, in many precincts across the city, they just called in sick.

00:37:28.000 They said, you know what?

00:37:30.000 Not gonna do it.

00:37:30.000 Oops!

00:37:31.000 We all have COVID.

00:37:32.000 Whoops!

00:37:33.000 It was going around Twitter, it was called the Blue Flu by people including Mike Cernovich.

00:37:37.000 And that phrase has been around for a while, the rumors of a blue flu.

00:37:41.000 The police officers were basically going to start calling in sick and saying, listen, we're not going to police crime.

00:37:47.000 You want us to police crime?

00:37:49.000 Well, guess what?

00:37:50.000 I'm happy to police crime so long as you're not going to prosecute me for policing crime. 0.96

00:37:52.000 But I'm not going to go out there and get killed for the sake of your politically correct bullcrap.

00:37:56.000 That's not a thing I'm going to do. 0.93

00:37:58.000 I've talked to a bevy of police officers.

00:37:59.000 I haven't talked to a police officer in the last month who has not suggested that they are seriously considering early retirement or leaving their major city department.

00:38:07.000 Because these departments are not protecting their cops.

00:38:08.000 They are not.

00:38:09.000 The vast, vast majority of police officers are heroes who stand between you and villainy every day.

00:38:15.000 And when you cast them as the villains, you should not be surprised when they walk away and you are face to face with real villains.

00:38:20.000 And that is what is going to happen in cities like Atlanta.

00:38:23.000 This is a data-based argument.

00:38:25.000 I mentioned a study the other day from Roland Fryer, another researcher from, I believe, the National Economic Council, that showed that in the aftermath of viral incidents in places like Ferguson and Baltimore and Cincinnati and Riverside, that in the aftermath of viral incidents that prompted major investigations that in the aftermath of viral incidents that prompted major investigations of police departments, policing basically stopped in those cities, leading to 900 excess deaths, 900 excess homicides in the Now think about that in every major city in the United States, which is basically what is happening now.

00:38:55.000 It's happening in LA.

00:38:55.000 It's happening in Seattle.

00:38:56.000 It's happening in New York.

00:38:57.000 It's happening in Atlanta.

00:38:58.000 It's going to happen in Chicago.

00:39:00.000 What do you think happened?

00:39:00.000 Even the cops who stay on the job, do you think that they're just going to proactively police now?

00:39:06.000 They'll respond to 911 calls, but only after somebody's been shot and is bleeding out, presumably.

00:39:11.000 So, a bunch of precincts of Atlanta walked out last night.

00:39:15.000 One observer who was sort of observing the radio traffic said that this afternoon when the DA announced murder charges were filed, almost an entire shift in a patrol zone drove back to the precinct, said they needed to talk to the EAP or weren't feeling well.

00:39:26.000 Another specialty squad did the same.

00:39:28.000 The overnight shift had multiple sick outs.

00:39:30.000 The officers are broken, abandoned.

00:39:31.000 After eight officers were fired and charged by this DA two weeks ago, the officers were outraged.

00:39:35.000 More to that story didn't get told.

00:39:37.000 They didn't handle it correctly, but the aggravated assault criminal charges didn't sit well.

00:39:40.000 During the middle of riots, when the DA charged these officers, three outside agencies pulled their officers back home.

00:39:45.000 I can't have my officers placed in a situation like this.

00:39:47.000 The mayor has already taken away the raises they were promised and given control of the budget to the COO.

00:39:52.000 The APD has already basically been defunded.

00:39:54.000 Nine of the 15 council members voted to take back the money. 0.61

00:39:56.000 Their chief was fired, basically for being a white lady. 0.82

00:39:59.000 It's now a black head of the APD. 0.64

00:40:00.000 By the way, you know what's worth noting?

00:40:02.000 The Atlanta PD?

00:40:03.000 58% black as of 2016.

00:40:05.000 58% black.

00:40:07.000 The DA is charging officers before the GBI even does an investigation.

00:40:11.000 Most of them are in their 20s. 0.99

00:40:12.000 They aren't going to work to kill a black man or anyone for that matter. 0.99

00:40:14.000 The department is about 65% black as of now, apparently. 0.99

00:40:16.000 Not just 58% black as it was back in 2016.

00:40:20.000 And the mayor is trying to hold this thing together despite cracking down on the cops.

00:40:24.000 She said, don't worry guys, it's fine, it's fine.

00:40:26.000 She was on CNN last night as Atlanta police officers were calling in sick across the county.

00:40:30.000 They do it for one night and it'll probably be okay.

00:40:32.000 But they had to lie, right?

00:40:33.000 They came out and said, no, we're just having them higher than average call out.

00:40:37.000 It's not, people aren't calling in sick.

00:40:39.000 It's not, it's not a blue flu.

00:40:40.000 We just had sort of a higher than average people calling in sick today.

00:40:44.000 Try this for like two weeks and see how it goes.

00:40:45.000 Not one night.

00:40:47.000 Once the criminals know that the cops are not on the streets and not responding to calls, then see how it goes.

00:40:51.000 By the way, she was apparently trying, according to a lot of the radio traffic, the Atlanta Police Department, the dispatchers, were trying to call in people from surrounding counties, and the surrounding counties were like, nope, you're on your own.

00:41:01.000 I'm not going down there, I'm not getting prosecuted for you guys.

00:41:02.000 Nope, not gonna happen.

00:41:04.000 So Keisha Bottoms, the mayor, said, it's okay, we have enough officers, kind of.

00:41:07.000 Whistling past the graveyard here.

00:41:11.000 We don't have a count yet because we were in the midst of a shift change.

00:41:15.000 But what I do know is that we do have enough officers to cover us through the night.

00:41:21.000 And our streets won't be any less safe because of the number of officers who've called out.

00:41:28.000 But it's just my hope, again, that our officers will remember the commitment that they made when they held up their hand and they were sworn in as police officers.

00:41:39.000 According to Charlie Gile of NBC News, producer over there, he says Atlanta Police Union spokesman Vince Champion tells me officers around the city are protesting the charges announced against officers Rolfe and Brosnan.

00:41:49.000 Because they're walking off the job, not responding to calls unless backup is needed, and going silent on the radios.

00:41:54.000 And if you listened to the radio traffic last night, that was perfectly obvious that was happening.

00:41:57.000 You can do that for one night, you can't do it for two weeks.

00:41:59.000 You can't do it for a week.

00:42:00.000 Get ready for the purge in Atlanta.

00:42:02.000 That's what this is gonna be.

00:42:04.000 I love that the mayor is like, oh yeah, morale is just down at the police department.

00:42:06.000 I can't really explain why morale is down, except that I just called my officers murderers who didn't commit a murder.

00:42:10.000 But aside from that, I can't really explain why the morale is down.

00:42:15.000 Across the country, morale is down with police departments.

00:42:18.000 And I think ours is down tenfold.

00:42:21.000 This has been a very tough few weeks in Atlanta and with the tragedy of Mr. Brooks.

00:42:28.000 And then on top of that, the excessive force charges that were brought against the officers involved with the college students.

00:42:36.000 There's a lot happening in our city and our police officers are receiving the brunt of it, quite frankly.

00:42:44.000 So, good times right there.

00:42:45.000 So, Atlanta is just the beginning.

00:42:47.000 We've already heard evidence that there are going to be blueouts in places like Los Angeles, where people were not being paid proper overtime, that the LAPD was just going to be like, you know what?

00:42:55.000 We're not doing this anymore.

00:42:56.000 We're not going to police the metro.

00:42:57.000 That's been a major issue in Los Angeles.

00:42:59.000 You've already seen rumors that over 600 police officers in New York are looking at possibly leaving the police force.

00:43:04.000 This is going to happen at places across the country.

00:43:06.000 Because what we were watching, the assault on police from public figures across the aisle, it's not going to end well, folks.

00:43:13.000 Because guess who stands between the criminals and innocent citizens? 0.89

00:43:15.000 Particularly black and brown citizens, by the way. 0.98

00:43:20.000 Those are the police. 0.99

00:43:21.000 You remove the police, the crime is going to go up.

00:43:22.000 That is not going to hurt the people who are living in Beverly Hills.

00:43:25.000 It's not going to hurt all of the white, woke, liberal hipsters on college campuses who are hashtagging Black Lives Matter.

00:43:30.000 It's going to hurt all the people who are going to be killed in areas with high crime, disproportionately in black and brown communities. 0.93

00:43:36.000 That's the reality here. 0.99

00:43:37.000 And it's an ugly reality.

00:43:39.000 The posturing from all of the white, woke liberals meets the reality that when you remove the cops from high crime scenarios, crime goes up.

00:43:47.000 Always.

00:43:48.000 Not sometimes.

00:43:49.000 Always.

00:43:50.000 And don't give me Camden, New Jersey, where they got rid of the police department by doubling the size of the police department and getting rid of the local police union, which is what actually happened there.

00:43:57.000 Meanwhile, you know, Bottoms says there, Keisha Bottoms, the mayor of Atlanta, she says, That the morale is down in the police department.

00:44:05.000 Morale is down across the country.

00:44:06.000 I mean, there are polls showing right now that Americans are less satisfied with the United States than they have been in 50 years.

00:44:11.000 That is not a giant surprise.

00:44:12.000 Maybe one of the reasons for that is because everyone sort of feels like they are being treated unfairly.

00:44:16.000 You have an entire narrative on one side of the aisle that declares that America is sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, horrific in every way.

00:44:23.000 So if you're a member of a minority group, you're being told over and over every day that your fellow American is seeking to keep you down.

00:44:28.000 And something Michelle Obama actually said to people, no matter how hard you work as a young black person, the system is designed to keep you down.

00:44:34.000 That's pretty depressing.

00:44:35.000 And then, if you are not a member of a minority group, you are told that you are suffering from white privilege.

00:44:40.000 Or that you are the beneficiary, rather, of white privilege.

00:44:42.000 And that any move you make to be colorblind is actually just an emanation of your own white privilege. 0.72

00:44:49.000 And we're going to call you out.

00:44:50.000 We're going to go after you.

00:44:51.000 We're going to uncover every bad thing you have ever done.

00:44:54.000 It's the Salem Witch Trials.

00:44:55.000 We're going to go after you.

00:44:56.000 And if you sink to the bottom, then we know you're innocent. 1.00

00:44:58.000 But if you float, then we know you're a witch and we burn you. 1.00

00:45:01.000 Really, really exciting stuff. 0.99

00:45:02.000 Over at the Washington Post, they're going through full-scale purges.

00:45:07.000 I do love this story.

00:45:08.000 There's a story by Mark Fisher and Sydney Trent.

00:45:11.000 The picture on the story has a picture of two Washington Post staffers, one named Lexi Gruber and one named Lyric Prince, standing next to a statue in the park looking very, very determined.

00:45:23.000 Very determined people.

00:45:25.000 What are they so determined about?

00:45:26.000 What sort of grand conspiracy have they uncovered?

00:45:29.000 What sort of Woodward and Bernstein journalism have they done to merit such a wonderful photo?

00:45:34.000 Quote, Blackface incident at post-cartoonist 2018 Halloween party resurfaces amid protests.

00:45:41.000 The Washington Post is now calling out bad old Halloween costumes.

00:45:45.000 This is a 3,000 word piece in the Washington Post.

00:45:49.000 3,000 words on how a person wore a non-woke costume to a Washington Post Halloween party in 2018.

00:45:57.000 Now the great irony of the woke costume is that the woke costume was supposed to be woke.

00:46:03.000 The un-woke costume was supposed to be woke.

00:46:06.000 Here is the harrowing story of a...

00:46:11.000 Racism!

00:46:12.000 Over at the Washington Post.

00:46:13.000 K, you ready for this?

00:46:14.000 And the staffer's already been fired.

00:46:16.000 Quote, every year, Tom Tolles' Halloween party draws an eclectic mix.

00:46:19.000 Journalists and political types from Washington's power elite, but also artists and musicians, everyone from retirees to college kids, jammed into small rooms and sprawled across the backyard, dancing and gossiping, checking out the crowd to see who has the most inventive and outrageous costumes.

00:46:31.000 At the 2018 party at the home of the Washington Post editorial cartoonist, in addition to several Ruth Bader Ginsburgs, someone dressed as the Mueller witch hunt and post columnist Dana Milbank came as just confirmed Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, complete with a beer dispensing device on his head.

00:46:45.000 A guest named Lexi Gruber wore a scary Beetlejuice getup and called herself dead.

00:46:49.000 Wow.

00:46:50.000 A middle-aged white... white... named Sue Schaefer wore a conservative business suit and a name tag that said, Hello, my name is Megyn Kelly. 0.98

00:47:00.000 Her face was almost entirely blackened with makeup.

00:47:02.000 Kelly, then an NBC morning host, had just said that week she'd caused a stir by defending the use of blackface by white people, saying, quote, when I was a kid, that was okay as long as you were dressing up as like a character.

00:47:11.000 First of all, if you recall, that was a bullcrap story in the first place, because what Megan was not doing was defending actual blackface.

00:47:17.000 She was saying there's a difference, as by the way, Juan Williams has said on my show, right? 0.86

00:47:21.000 Juan Williams, the black commentator.

00:47:22.000 For Fox News, there's obviously a difference between you dressed up as Michael Jackson in 1985 and you dressed up like Ralph Northam did, just plainly in blackface in 1985.

00:47:30.000 Like, that is not the same thing.

00:47:32.000 But, in any case, put aside the Kelly controversy.

00:47:34.000 This lady, this middle-aged white woman, was making fun of Megyn Kelly for supposedly being racist by dressing up as Megyn Kelly in blackface. 1.00

00:47:41.000 It was not because she was doing blackface, right? 0.56

00:47:44.000 Like, she's so woke that she's un-woke. 0.98

00:47:46.000 She was dressed up as Megyn Kelly and she had black on her face because she's supposed to be making fun of that evil, conservative, vicious, racist Megyn Kelly. 1.00

00:47:54.000 And now she's being targeted as a racist for targeting the supposed racist Megyn Kelly. 1.00

00:47:59.000 And now she's been ousted for her racism. 1.00

00:48:02.000 Just before heading over to the party, Schaefer, a graphic designer and friend of Tolles, decided to dress as Kelly in blackface to mock her, she said.

00:48:07.000 Well, yes, clearly, because that's perfectly obvious.

00:48:10.000 Some of the approximately 100 guests at the home of the cartoonist in the district's American University neighborhood said they didn't notice the blackface.

00:48:16.000 Some noticed it and said nothing.

00:48:17.000 A few people walked over to Schaefer, who was then 54, and challenged her about the costume. 0.87

00:48:22.000 Gruber, who's of Puerto Rican descent, and her friend Lyric Prince, who's African-American, confronted Schaefer directly.

00:48:28.000 You understand how offensive that could be to a person of color, Gruber said, according to two witnesses.

00:48:31.000 I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:48:32.000 It's funny, Schaefer replied, the witnesses said.

00:48:34.000 Nearly two years later, the incident, which has bothered some people ever since, ever since, but which many guests remember only barely or not at all, has resurfaced.

00:48:43.000 Ooh, resurfacing in the nationwide reckoning over race.

00:48:46.000 By the way, resurfaced is code for a woke staffer decided to go up and dig up an old photo to get somebody fired.

00:48:50.000 That's what resurfaced means.

00:48:51.000 It's not like we're bobbing out here on the eddies of time, and suddenly, oh, look, a picture.

00:48:55.000 It just resurfaced magically.

00:48:57.000 I was just here on the lake of news and boom, up came the picture.

00:49:01.000 Nope.

00:49:02.000 That's not how that works.

00:49:02.000 Resurface this code for a woke staffer decided to get somebody fired.

00:49:06.000 For an unfunny Halloween costume that was targeting supposed racism.

00:49:10.000 That wasn't even racism in the first place.

00:49:12.000 Well done, everyone.

00:49:13.000 The story goes on for 3,000 words.

00:49:17.000 Gruber felt compelled to revive the 2018 incident.

00:49:20.000 Last week, she emailed Tolles.

00:49:21.000 She said, in 2018, I attended a Halloween party at your home.

00:49:24.000 I understand you're not responsible for the behavior of your guests, but at a party, a woman was in blackface. 1.00

00:49:28.000 She harassed me and my friend, the only two women of color. 1.00

00:49:31.000 It was clear she made her costume with racist intent, which obviously is not true.

00:49:35.000 According to the Washington Post's own story, the two people approached her and then started harassing her about being a supposed racist.

00:49:42.000 Gruber, a 27-year-old management consultant, told Tolles the incident had, quote, weighed heavily on my heart.

00:49:46.000 It was abhorrent and egregious.

00:49:48.000 And then asked him to help her identify the woman.

00:49:50.000 It didn't resurface.

00:49:51.000 This lady kept this around in the back of her mind so she could get a heroic picture in the Washington Post for getting another Washington Post employee in graphic design fired for a costume that was not racist. 1.00

00:50:02.000 Okay, again, the costume is not racist because it's making fun of the evils of blackface, you stupid idiots. 1.00

00:50:07.000 It is not about how blackface is good. 1.00

00:50:09.000 It's making fun of the evils of blackface.

00:50:12.000 After the killing of George Floyd in the protests, I began reflecting more on this incident, Gruber said in an email seeking post coverage of the incident.

00:50:19.000 I wanted to know who the woman is. 1.00

00:50:20.000 What impact does she have on society? 1.00

00:50:22.000 I think this is an important story.

00:50:23.000 That a party full of prominent people in Washington welcomed a person in blackface, danced and drank with her, and watched in silence as she harassed two young women of color.

00:50:31.000 Prince, 36, a science writer, art critic, and artist, wants Schaeffer to explain publicly why she did what she did.

00:50:36.000 I don't want an apology.

00:50:36.000 That time has long past, she said.

00:50:39.000 She wants tolls to make it clear that what Schaeffer did was wrong.

00:50:41.000 That's not the kind of person he knows to be a good person.

00:50:43.000 She's a bad person now.

00:50:45.000 We now know everything we need to know about this person because she dressed up as Megyn Kelly in blackface to mock Megyn Kelly. 1.00

00:50:52.000 Looking back, some guests at the party say they wish they'd confronted Schaeffer more aggressively.

00:50:56.000 Others say she's already paid a price and that her embarrassment and regrets were evident when she left the party in tears. 0.98

00:51:01.000 I wish I'd been the one to call her out, said Philippa Hughes, a Washington arts entrepreneur who— I mean, this is just malice crap. 0.93

00:51:06.000 I'm sorry. 0.99

00:51:07.000 It is just unbelievable malice crap. 0.92

00:51:10.000 Tolles, a 68-year-old Pulitzer Prize winner, replied to Gruber's email last week with apologies for your experience at the party. 0.98

00:51:16.000 A lot of people show up, I don't know.

00:51:17.000 I don't recognize the woman you're inquiring about.

00:51:20.000 Tolles did know Schaefer.

00:51:21.000 Ooh, so now he must be fired!

00:51:24.000 He said, I meant I didn't recognize any bad intent.

00:51:25.000 I didn't feel it was my place to tell her who my other guest was when she had misinterpreted what the other guest intended with her costume.

00:51:31.000 I mean, this is just, it's plainly insane.

00:51:33.000 This goes on and on and on and on.

00:51:37.000 3,000 words because a 27-year-old is so weak-minded that she believes a costume that is meant to mock the evils of blackface is actually horrifically racist to the point where two years later, she's still having bad dreams about it and has to get the person fired.

00:51:48.000 Well, I wonder why people are feeling so negative about the future of the United States.

00:51:51.000 I just can't imagine why.

00:51:52.000 I can't imagine why.

00:51:54.000 When the woke scolds are not only out in force, they are forcing people to have their job lost.

00:51:57.000 I mean, this lady is what now? 0.98

00:51:59.000 56 years old?

00:52:00.000 You're firing a 56-year-old lady because she wore a liberal costume making fun of Megyn Kelly to a Washington Post party, and then the Washington Post does a 3,000-word mea culpa with hero pictures of the people who were offended.

00:52:11.000 And can I just tell you something about being offended?

00:52:13.000 Being offended does not make you virtuous.

00:52:15.000 Very often it makes you a weakling.

00:52:17.000 If you are that offended by these- like, as a person who's the number one target of all antisemitism on the internet in 2016, and watched people send me actual memes of my- of me being gassed by Hitler, okay?

00:52:31.000 It takes a lot to offend me.

00:52:32.000 Guess what?

00:52:33.000 I still lead a happy life.

00:52:34.000 I don't have a bunch of nightmares about that.

00:52:37.000 My wife, I've mentioned this before.

00:52:39.000 My wife, as an Israeli-American woman, walking with her father in Sacramento, a man drove past, threw a rock at her, and yelled, killed the Jews.

00:52:47.000 Does she have nightmares about that?

00:52:48.000 She's mentioned it to me once in our 12 years of marriage.

00:52:51.000 Those are all worse things than, I saw a costume that made me feel bad at a party, even though the costume was supposed to be making fun of alleged racism.

00:53:00.000 These are your reporters.

00:53:01.000 These are your journalists.

00:53:02.000 As someone put it online, Gawker didn't go away.

00:53:04.000 It just became the Washington Post.

00:53:06.000 That's all that's happening now.

00:53:07.000 We're now outing all the baddies.

00:53:08.000 All the baddies have to be outed.

00:53:10.000 Making America a worse place, one mobbing at a time.

00:53:13.000 Well done, everybody.

00:53:15.000 Okay. 0.94

00:53:17.000 Meanwhile, you want to talk about more ridiculous sort of woke scolding.

00:53:23.000 So there are a couple more stories that are worth noting in the woke scolding lane, and then we'll get to John Bolton for a little while here, because John Bolton is, of course, a big story, because John Bolton wrote a book.

00:53:30.000 Ooh, a book!

00:53:31.000 Okay, and then just confirmed everything we knew about President Trump. 1.00

00:53:34.000 He says rash and stupid things. 1.00

00:53:36.000 Who knew that? 1.00

00:53:37.000 Except for every absorber of President Trump. 1.00

00:53:39.000 That he says rash and stupid things and says the quiet part out loud. 1.00

00:53:42.000 And is completely unsubtle and tactless. 1.00

00:53:44.000 And very often will say things that are bad about America.

00:53:46.000 Who knew that?

00:53:47.000 Except for everyone who has ever seen his Twitter account.

00:53:49.000 Every human, that is.

00:53:50.000 Okay, we'll get to that in a second.

00:53:51.000 First, let's talk for a second about people seeking to be offended at this point.

00:53:55.000 Again, offense has become a virtue.

00:53:56.000 If you take offense at a thing, you are now virtuous.

00:53:58.000 You get the hero pose over at the Washington Post.

00:54:00.000 You get the full front page splash in 3,000 words because you were offended by a Halloween party in 2018.

00:54:07.000 Slow clap for you.

00:54:08.000 You're Martin Luther King.

00:54:09.000 You're Rosa Parks. 0.96

00:54:10.000 Well done.

00:54:11.000 You're Malcolm X. You've really stood up to true American prejudice by calling out a lady who you didn't know from two years ago at a Washington Post editorial cartoonist party.

00:54:19.000 Amazing, amazing stuff.

00:54:21.000 Well, looking for his merit badge of offended-ness is Tim Gray, a columnist for Variety.

00:54:27.000 Ten problematic films that could use warning labels!

00:54:30.000 Ah, we now need more warning labels.

00:54:32.000 We need trigger warnings.

00:54:32.000 Remember that time?

00:54:34.000 When I used to talk about trigger warnings and microaggressions on the show and in my college speeches, people were like, that's not going to enter the real world.

00:54:40.000 These young people, they're going to get out there and then the real world's going to hit you hard, bro.

00:54:45.000 The real world is going to change them.

00:54:46.000 They're going to come face to face with reality.

00:54:49.000 And then it turned out that reality came face to face with the woke skulls and ran.

00:54:53.000 And the new reality is, the more offended you are, the more virtuous you are.

00:54:56.000 So find something that offends you, and you too can be initiated into the woke, into the woke priesthood, where you can rip out the entrails of your enemies and just spread them on the ground and read the auspices.

00:55:11.000 So there's a piece of variety.

00:55:12.000 It's not enough to go after Gone with the Wind.

00:55:14.000 Instead, they have now a list of 10 problematic films that could use warning labels.

00:55:19.000 All films should be viewed with a critical eye, says this columnist.

00:55:21.000 That doesn't mean banning them.

00:55:23.000 These films represent the era in which they were made.

00:55:24.000 It's important to remember history, so we don't repeat those things.

00:55:27.000 But here are 10 films that need to be presented with disclaimers and discussions before and after entering a screening.

00:55:32.000 Dirty Harry from 1971.

00:55:35.000 Lieutenant Harry Callahan of the San Francisco Police Department is determined to uphold the law even if he has to break the rules.

00:55:40.000 It started a craze for movies about maverick cops who get the job done by following their instincts rather than the law.

00:55:45.000 The film mocks liberal judges and do-gooders, and the villain claims police brutality, planting the seed that other such charges are fake moves to get sympathy.

00:55:51.000 And one of the things that they're not going to mention is that Dirty Harry was an extraordinarily popular movie because it came amidst one of the great crime waves in American history, beginning in the mid-60s and culminating in 1994.

00:56:01.000 Dirty Harry was a direct reactionary response to the fact that criminality was being allowed to run wild by the left.

00:56:05.000 That's what Dirty Harry was.

00:56:06.000 It's why it was popular.

00:56:07.000 Same thing with the movie Death Wish.

00:56:09.000 Both of those movies were very popular because they were actually responding to the ridiculousness of the left taking over the auspices of law and order and destroying them.

00:56:20.000 Forrest Gump apparently is bad.

00:56:21.000 Forrest Gump is very bad.

00:56:23.000 Forrest Gump was made by intelligent people, won six Oscars, and is beloved by many.

00:56:26.000 While the film is condescending to anyone with a disability, Vietnam vets and people with AIDS among others, it's actually hostile to protesters, activists, and the counterculture.

00:56:34.000 As a bonus, lovable title character Nathan Bedford Forrest was named after his grandfather, the first Grand Wizard of the KKK.

00:56:40.000 So Forrest Gump is cancelled.

00:56:41.000 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

00:56:44.000 Ah, we have to get rid of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom because the exotic villains are portrayed as primitive and bloodthirsty foreigners, resulting in negative and stereotypical depictions of India and of Hindu customs.

00:56:55.000 I'm pretty sure that anybody who watched Temple of Doom didn't go away thinking, I feel like all Hindus just, like, rip hearts out of chests. 1.00

00:57:01.000 It's an actual temple cult.

00:57:02.000 Like, what are you ta- Apparently, Me Before You needs to be done away with.

00:57:08.000 Me Before You.

00:57:09.000 Because it's really insensitive.

00:57:11.000 Because it's a romance about a man who becomes paralyzed after an accident and falls in love with his new companion, and then he urges her to live her life to the fullest instead of living half a life with him.

00:57:18.000 So he kills himself, presenting the idea that suicide is better than life with a disability. 1.00

00:57:22.000 So first of all, I agree with the take on the film, but I wonder why it needs a disclaimer.

00:57:26.000 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is also very bad.

00:57:28.000 Very, very bad.

00:57:30.000 Because the film is set in 1969, when some Americans felt the status quo was being threatened by minorities, hippies, and newly liberated women.

00:57:38.000 From the controversial depiction of Bruce Lee, to the fact that black people seem non-existent, and the Mexicans, as they're called in the film, are car valets or waitresses, Tarantino's film seems to have several blind spots.

00:57:48.000 Wow.

00:57:49.000 Also, The Searchers is bad.

00:57:50.000 The Searchers is cancelled.

00:57:51.000 Silence of the Lambs is cancelled, which is exciting.

00:57:54.000 True Lies is cancelled as well.

00:57:57.000 By the way, the reason that Silence of the Lambs is cancelled is because the criminal is trans. 1.00

00:58:05.000 So that's bad. 0.93

00:58:07.000 That's bad. 0.99

00:58:07.000 You can never have a trans criminal. 0.99

00:58:08.000 All trans people are good.

00:58:10.000 Just like all straight people. 0.97

00:58:11.000 Oh no, sorry. 0.95

00:58:12.000 The only villains we're allowed are actually white straight people. 0.99

00:58:14.000 Those people are villains. 0.80

00:58:16.000 Well done, Variety.

00:58:17.000 You're offended.

00:58:17.000 Congratulations.

00:58:18.000 Congratulations.

00:58:20.000 Virtue has been conferred upon you.

00:58:22.000 How bad has this stuff become?

00:58:24.000 The city of Seattle has now put out, I'm not kidding you, this is according to Dr. Carolyn Borsenko, who's an organizational psychologist.

00:58:32.000 The city of Seattle asked its white employees to voluntarily spend a day off in a training about their internalized racial superiority.

00:58:39.000 There's an email that was sent out to white employees.

00:58:44.000 It says, the Office of Civil Rights is hosting a training on internalized racial superiority tomorrow morning, specifically targeted for white employees.

00:58:52.000 They say, we're opening up this Friday's long-scheduled citywide RSJI training on internalized racial superiority, a training for white people, to additional white city employees.

00:59:01.000 We'll hold the training on Microsoft Teams from 9.30 a.m.

00:59:03.000 to 12 o'clock p.m.

00:59:05.000 White employees not already registered can sign up at the link below.

00:59:09.000 Tomorrow, many city employees will be using paid or unpaid leave to take a day of reflection and action.

00:59:13.000 This was during Blackout Tuesday.

00:59:14.000 Is that what it was called?

00:59:15.000 I think that's what it was called.

00:59:17.000 I can't remember.

00:59:18.000 We're inviting city employees who identify as white to join this training to learn, reflect, challenge ourselves, and build skills and relationships that help us show more fully as allies and accomplices for racial justice.

00:59:28.000 We'll examine our complicity in the system of white supremacy.

00:59:31.000 This was sent out by the City of Seattle to its white employees.

00:59:34.000 Nothing like a little racial targeting of your white employees and suggesting they ought to take the day off that's been given to them to consider their racial guilt and come on in to learn about their internalized white superiority.

00:59:47.000 Yes, I wonder why so many people are negative. 0.97

00:59:49.000 Maybe it's because things suck right now, like radically suck right now in a huge way.

00:59:53.000 Okay, meanwhile, I would be remiss if I didn't talk at least a little bit about John Bolton's book. 0.62

00:59:57.000 So John Bolton has a 496-page book out, which, I mean, frankly sounds interminable.

01:00:01.000 I don't like reading political books that are that long because they rarely justify the word count.

01:00:06.000 I've also, I will admit, I've gotten to the point in my life where I will get, if there's an 800 page book and I start it and I get 500 pages in, and I get bored, I'll just put it down.

01:00:15.000 I just don't have that many breaths left in my life.

01:00:17.000 When I was younger, I would be like, okay, I'm gonna blow my way all the way through the end of this thing.

01:00:21.000 But if I'm reading Vanity Fair and it's 900 pages long and I get to page 700, and I'm like, okay, I feel like I got the gist.

01:00:27.000 I get how the writing works.

01:00:28.000 All right, let's let's move on.

01:00:29.000 I'll just read the rest of the plot and put it down like that.

01:00:32.000 So I feel that way about Bolton's book, which I believe is in the mail for me.

01:00:36.000 So I will let you know how it is after I read the first 300 pages of his 496 page tome.

01:00:41.000 So, let me say right at the outset, I think that John Bolton is an honest person.

01:00:45.000 Okay, I've met Ambassador Bolton several times.

01:00:48.000 I do not think he's a liar.

01:00:49.000 I think people who are trying to flip on him now that he is saying things that are anti-Trump, that's sort of absurd.

01:00:54.000 The idea that Bolton is just making things up full-scale.

01:00:56.000 Why is it that everybody who turns against Trump is a liar, but Trump himself is considered the epitome of honesty?

01:01:00.000 Like, that's just not something I believe.

01:01:02.000 Now, do I think that it is worthwhile for John Bolton to talk out of school?

01:01:06.000 I generally don't think that it's worthwhile for government officials to talk out of school unless they quit over a matter of principle and want to talk about the matter of principle.

01:01:13.000 But this idea that you're going to sit in on meetings for three years and take the benefits of the job and try to swing the job and then you're just going to go out and talk about it.

01:01:20.000 That's really kiss and tell kind of stuff that I'm really not fond of.

01:01:23.000 I will also say that most of the things that we learn about Donald Trump in the excerpts of the book that we've seen are not particular revelations.

01:01:31.000 Namely, he says horrible things.

01:01:33.000 Truly horrible things.

01:01:34.000 That he is completely transactional in his approach to politics.

01:01:38.000 That he says the quiet part out loud.

01:01:39.000 The real difference between Donald Trump and Barack Obama is that Barack Obama was the sophisticated version of Trump.

01:01:44.000 So I'll give you a perfect example.

01:01:46.000 So one of the big headlines from this is that apparently Trump talked to Xi Jinping about his re-election.

01:01:55.000 So according to John Bolton, President Trump was constantly motivated by re-election, which, by the way, is true for virtually every president.

01:02:02.000 Barack Obama always had an eye toward re-election.

01:02:04.000 So Bolton says in a piece in the Wall Street Journal, I'm hard-pressed to identify any significant Trump decision during my White House tenure that wasn't driven by re-election calculations.

01:02:11.000 Okay, well it's just called Welcome to Politics.

01:02:13.000 I mean, John Bolton knows this.

01:02:15.000 So he says that Trump saw his meetings with Xi not as a policy issue to be resolved, but as an opportunity to make personal gestures to Xi.

01:02:23.000 In 2018, for example, he reversed penalties that had been carried out by the Commerce Department on ZTE.

01:02:28.000 In 2019, he offered to reverse criminal prosecution against Huawei if it would help in a trade deal, which of course was primarily about getting Trump reelected in 2020.

01:02:37.000 So apparently, he talked openly with Xi about the fact that he wanted Xi to start importing all sorts of agricultural products, because if he imported agricultural products, then Trump would have the ability to win some of the swing states.

01:02:49.000 So, is that good?

01:02:51.000 No, it's not good.

01:02:51.000 Of course it's not good.

01:02:52.000 You don't want the President of the United States going to foreign dictators and being like, you know, it'd be great if you could help me out with my re-election prospects by importing some of our agricultural goods.

01:02:59.000 Just give me a win here.

01:03:00.000 Just give me a win here.

01:03:01.000 That's really bad.

01:03:02.000 I'm old enough to remember when Barack Obama literally said to Dmitry Medvedev, tell Vladimir I have more flexibility after this election.

01:03:10.000 Okay, so Obama did the same thing.

01:03:12.000 He was just a lot more sophisticated about how he did it and tried to do it off mic.

01:03:15.000 He failed in that instance. 0.94

01:03:16.000 But this idea that politicians are never thinking about re-election and never talk with foreign leaders with an eye toward re-election is very silly.

01:03:22.000 This is a distinction that I made when we were talking about Trump and Ukraine.

01:03:25.000 I said, if one of the motivations for a president is re-election, if it is not the only motivation, but if one of the motivations is re-election, Then that's just called politics because that's what politicians do.

01:03:37.000 And so that's that one is sort of the least of my concerns among the John Bolton bombshells.

01:03:42.000 Some of the other John Bolton bombshells is just Trump generally going easy on China because he was trying to win over Xi Jinping on a personal level. 0.95

01:03:49.000 This is, again, an aspect of Trump's negotiation that I've always thought is dumb, obviously.

01:03:55.000 The worst thing that apparently Trump said is that he was talking with Xi Jinping about Xi Jinping's concentration camps for Uighur Muslims, and apparently he suggested that he was okay with them. 0.97

01:04:11.000 That's the part that's ugly.

01:04:12.000 But he was asked about it.

01:04:15.000 There's no justification for that.

01:04:17.000 According to Bolton, at the opening dinner of the Osaka G20 meeting in June 2019, with only interpreters present, Xi had explained to Trump why he was basically building concentration camps in Xinjiang.

01:04:27.000 According to our interpreter, Trump said that Xi should go ahead with building the camps that Trump thought was exactly the right thing to do.

01:04:33.000 The National Security Council's top Asia staffer, Matthew Pottinger, told me that Trump said something very similar during his November 2017 trip to China.

01:04:41.000 Apparently Trump was particularly dyspeptic about Taiwan, having listened to Wall Street financiers who had gotten rich off mainland China investments.

01:04:47.000 Apparently Trump used to point to the Resolute desk and say, this is China, and then point to the tip of his Sharpie and say, this is Taiwan.

01:04:54.000 So none of this is good.

01:04:55.000 The stuff about concentration camps, apparently Trump was asked about it, and Trump said something like, America does bad things too.

01:05:00.000 So the question isn't, did Trump say a very bad thing?

01:05:02.000 And is that a horribly evil thing to say, that concentration camps are okay?

01:05:06.000 Yes, that is a horribly evil thing to say with no justification whatsoever.

01:05:10.000 Also, this is coming from the same guy who said openly in an interview with Bill O'Reilly in 2016 that Vladimir Putin routinely killing his political enemies, America does bad stuff too.

01:05:18.000 Don't you remember that?

01:05:19.000 He said that I believe it was February 2016.

01:05:20.000 You want to criticize Putin? 0.82

01:05:23.000 Well, America kills people too. 0.54

01:05:25.000 And I was one of the people going like, uh, what now? 0.90

01:05:27.000 So this has been a constant Trump refrain.

01:05:29.000 In other words, things can be bad without being news.

01:05:32.000 And I'm wondering, what exactly is the news here?

01:05:34.000 I'm not seeing anything newsy here.

01:05:37.000 John Bolton is making the rounds, though, and he says Trump isn't fit for office.

01:05:40.000 He did an interview with ABC News, I believe, in which he went after Trump pretty hard.

01:05:45.000 I don't think he's fit for office.

01:05:46.000 I don't think he has the competence to carry out the job.

01:05:49.000 There really isn't any guiding principle that I was able to discern other than what's good for Donald Trump's re-election.

01:05:57.000 I think he was so focused on the reelection that longer term considerations fell by the wayside.

01:06:06.000 So if he thought he could get a photo opportunity with Kim Jong-un at the demilitarized zone in Korea, there was considerable emphasis on the photo opportunity and the press reaction to it.

01:06:18.000 And little or no focus on what such meetings did for the bargaining position of the United States.

01:06:25.000 Okay, so again, he disagrees with the policy.

01:06:28.000 This makes him no different, Bolton, than any other officer who has left the Trump administration.

01:06:31.000 He sounds like Jim Mattis.

01:06:33.000 He sounds like Rex Tillerson.

01:06:34.000 He sounds like everybody who has left the Trump administration on bad terms with Trump, or who's basically been fired by Trump.

01:06:40.000 They all say they don't like Trump. 0.91

01:06:41.000 They all say that Trump is incompetent.

01:06:42.000 They all say Trump doesn't know anything.

01:06:43.000 They all say they disagree with him on policy and that he's driven by pure election concerns and sort of trade tit-for-tat politics.

01:06:53.000 All of which is perfectly obvious from everyone, right?

01:06:55.000 Everyone knows this.

01:06:56.000 So again, not news would be sort of where I put this.

01:06:59.000 By saying things that are worse than I thought he had said, maybe that's news.

01:07:02.000 The concentration camp, again, is inexcusable on every possible level.

01:07:06.000 It's just terrible.

01:07:07.000 But, and the but is not with regard to the comment.

01:07:10.000 It's not really super newsy, considering that... Now, does this mean that John Bolton's a liar?

01:07:15.000 This narrative I find completely tiresome. 0.99

01:07:17.000 So President Trump went out and slammed Bolton and said, he's a liar, he's a liar. 1.00

01:07:20.000 Okay. 0.96

01:07:20.000 If forced to the map between do I believe that Trump did these things because John Bolton saw them, or is Trump lying to further himself? 0.96

01:07:28.000 That is not a choice. 0.96

01:07:29.000 Okay, I do not think that Trump is honest as the day is long, and I think that you'd have to be a sucker to believe that he is. 0.79

01:07:34.000 Here's President Trump going after Bolton. 0.68

01:07:35.000 By the way, his best move here would be to just ignore it.

01:07:38.000 That would be his best move.

01:07:39.000 Politically speaking, just be like, you know, disgruntled former staffer, we're done.

01:07:43.000 That's all he should do.

01:07:44.000 But will President Trump ever let a sleeping dog lie?

01:07:46.000 No, not at all.

01:07:48.000 Go for it.

01:07:50.000 He broke the law.

01:07:52.000 He was a washed-up guy.

01:07:53.000 I gave him a chance.

01:07:54.000 He couldn't get Senate-confirmed, so I gave him a non-Senate-confirmed position, where I could just put him there, see how he worked.

01:08:01.000 And I wasn't very enamored.

01:08:03.000 He went into the Middle East.

01:08:04.000 He was one of the big guns for, let's go into Iraq. 0.99

01:08:09.000 And that didn't work out too well, and I was against that a long time ago, before I was ever even thinking about doing what I'm doing now.

01:08:16.000 And so, is this helpful?

01:08:18.000 Not really.

01:08:18.000 Robert Lighthizer, another trade advisor to Trump, he said that Bolton is completely crazy, that all this stuff is made up.

01:08:24.000 Here's my rule of politics, and it's true across the board.

01:08:26.000 My rule of politics is always this.

01:08:27.000 Whatever is bad that people say about each other is true.

01:08:31.000 Whatever is good that people say about themselves is false.

01:08:33.000 Always.

01:08:34.000 Always and inevitably. 0.76

01:08:35.000 Okay, now, unless they are making some sort of, like, patently absurd accusation, like, Brett Kavanaugh is guilty of gang rape.

01:08:42.000 If somebody says, I was in the room and this person said X, and it was a bad thing that they said, and the person says, no, I never said it.

01:08:48.000 Generally, believe the bad things in politics.

01:08:50.000 Because everybody's self-motivated.

01:08:52.000 Everybody's self-motivated.

01:08:52.000 And then you decide, okay, is that news?

01:08:54.000 Is that changeable?

01:08:55.000 The media's newfound respect for John Bolton is something to behold.

01:08:59.000 Although I will say the media are pretty upset at John Bolton, because they're like, where were you during impeachment, dude?

01:09:02.000 Like, where were you?

01:09:03.000 Chris Hayes went after John Bolton yesterday.

01:09:05.000 And frankly, I think he sort of has a point.

01:09:09.000 He's a vicious bureaucratic infighter.

01:09:11.000 He's duplicitous, untrustworthy, extremely militaristic.

01:09:14.000 He's never been held accountable for all the terrible things he's done in his long public career, and there are many.

01:09:20.000 He's a completely morally odious individual you would not want in your organization or anywhere around you.

01:09:25.000 And yet he is, of course, also a Fox News contributor and at the highest levels of Republican policymaking.

01:09:30.000 John Bolton could spend the rest of his life like Lady Macbeth trying to wash the blood off his hands, and it would be there still.

01:09:35.000 And now Bolton is attempting to literally cash in on betrayal of his country.

01:09:39.000 Again, all of which is par for the course of the modern Republican Party.

01:09:43.000 Okay.

01:09:44.000 So again, the only part of this I actually agree with with Chris Hayes, not the characterization of Bolton, but the idea that Bolton was like avoiding testimony, avoiding testimony, avoiding testimony.

01:09:52.000 And then he says in his book, you know, if the Democrats had broadened out their impeachment inquiry to include all transactional politics for Trump, they would have had a better shot.

01:09:58.000 Yeah, you know, if you really thought that, you could have said that at the time, John Bolton.

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Bulls*** Charges and The Blue Flu | Ep. 1034

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