The Ben Shapiro Show - Canada Veers LEFT: Ugly Trudeau Wins!

00:00:00.000 Alrighty, folks.

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00:00:01.000 An election in Canada.

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00:00:24.000 Alright, so the big news as of today.

00:00:26.000 Is the election in Canada.

00:00:28.000 So you'll recall that if you go all the way back to December when Justin Trudeau, i.e.

00:00:32.000 handsome Bernie Sanders, was the Prime Minister of Canada, the Liberal Party in Canada was in a state of complete electoral collapse.

00:00:39.000 The polls showed that the Conservative Party, led by Pierre Poliev, who was in fact a good candidate, was winning.

00:00:46.000 The Conservative Party was winning by 25 points over Justin Trudeau.

00:00:50.000 The Liberal Party was in a state of absolute meltdown.

00:00:54.000 And then Justin Trudeau dropped out.

00:00:56.000 And the polls started to come together really, really quickly.

00:01:01.000 So last night, the election result, Mark Carney, who replaced Justin Trudeau, you can call him ugly Justin Trudeau.

00:01:06.000 So basically, if Justin Trudeau is handsome Bernie Sanders, then Mark Carney is ugly Justin Trudeau.

00:01:12.000 His liberals are now projected to win the Canadian election, according to the Wall Street Journal.

00:01:17.000 They were set to win a fourth term in national elections on Monday.

00:01:20.000 Fourth consecutive term.

00:01:21.000 So, I mean, well done on you guys, Canada.

00:01:24.000 Ooh, boy.

00:01:25.000 You make some choices you're going to have to live with up there.

00:01:27.000 It wasn't clear whether the Liberals would actually win a majority of seats or a smaller share that would require them to win support from other parties to govern.

00:01:33.000 That'd make a very large difference, by the way.

00:01:35.000 If they only have enough seats in the Canadian Parliament that they have to form a coalition with another party, that still leaves them vulnerable to the possibility of some sort of vote of no confidence in the future.

00:01:45.000 If, however, they have a pretty solid majority in the Parliament, then you get four years of Mark Carney up in Canada.

00:01:52.000 Carney is the former head of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England.

00:01:55.000 He is like a World Bank IMF guy.

00:01:58.000 He is very much in line with the sort of Green New Deal, relatively open borders, Justin Trudeau policy.

00:02:06.000 His expected victory, says the Wall Street Journal, is a remarkable one for a party headed for defeat at the start of the year.

00:02:11.000 Again, the Conservatives had a more than 20-point lead in January.

00:02:15.000 And a lot of that was because of Justin Trudeau's mismanagement, anger over inflation.

00:02:19.000 High housing costs, immigration, insane social leftism. 1.00

00:02:23.000 And then something happened.

00:02:25.000 And the thing that happened, essentially, was that Justin Trudeau dropped out.

00:02:30.000 So there are two conflicting arguments about what exactly happened in this election cycle.

00:02:35.000 Argument number one is that Trudeau dropping out alone would have propelled the Liberals to victory.

00:02:40.000 That basically, the Liberal Party did what the Democratic Party did in the last election cycle.

00:02:44.000 They took their bad candidate, flipped in a new, fresh candidate.

00:02:48.000 And then ran for victory.

00:02:50.000 And it's a very short election cycle because Carney, upon entering, declared, he could see that there was a boost in the polls, he declared a snap election, which meant that there was only about six weeks between the declaration of the election and the actual election.

00:03:00.000 That's how the system works.

00:03:01.000 Over there, when you are in power, you can declare a new election, essentially.

00:03:06.000 Dissolve your own government.

00:03:08.000 So the question is whether Justin Trudeau dropping out alone would have been enough to push the liberals to victory or whether it was a combination of Justin Trudeau.

00:03:17.000 Dropping out.

00:03:18.000 And President Trump's incessant, continuous, and aggressive attacks on America's top hat up in Canada.

00:03:25.000 My theory is pretty much number two.

00:03:28.000 That President Trump obviously had something to do with the results of the Canadian election.

00:03:33.000 So sure, obviously it makes a huge difference if you swap out the very unpopular Justin Trudeau for a cipher, a non-entity like Mark Carney.

00:03:41.000 And Carney, to his credit, Ran a little bit more as a moderate on issues like immigration or even on the economy.

00:03:47.000 He suggested he wasn't going to raise taxes.

00:03:49.000 He was going to mildly lower the taxes in Canada.

00:03:53.000 But the big election issue in Canada was not any more inflation or fiscal mismanagement in Canada, which is what Poliev had been running on.

00:04:01.000 The main election question in Canada, beginning in January, simultaneous with the dropout of Justin Trudeau, was America's aggressive attack on Canada.

00:04:12.000 Both rhetorically and in terms of policy.

00:04:15.000 President Trump first started attacking the Canadians in December of last year.

00:04:21.000 He started calling them the 51st state and trolling the Canadians.

00:04:25.000 And then he started talking literally his first day in office about dropping serious tariffs on the Canadians.

00:04:32.000 And what that did is it flipped the entire political fight in Canada.

00:04:35.000 So before it had been about Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party's mismanagement.

00:04:38.000 And then it turned into who is best willing and conditioned.

00:04:41.000 to fight President Trump on his tariff agenda.

00:04:44.000 Who's willing to stand up to Trump?

00:04:45.000 And there's a widespread perception in Canada that Pierre Poliev, because he was a candidate of the right and was widely liked by many conservatives in the United States, that Pierre Poliev was some sort of Trump ally and therefore ill-positioned to go up against Donald Trump.

00:04:58.000 He tried to draw a contrast with Trump.

00:05:00.000 He tried to say that he was going to fight Trump on the tariffs and that Trump was wrong on the tariffs.

00:05:03.000 The problem was that imagistically he was of the right, Trump was of the right.

00:05:07.000 His entire campaign slogan, by the way, was Canada first, which was very reminiscent And so that obviously was sort of roiling underneath the dynamics of Trudeau versus Poliev.

00:05:20.000 And then once Trudeau dropped out, it was almost like a hot air balloon that had dropped its ballast.

00:05:24.000 The Liberal Party started to rise precipitously, specifically because Trudeau, who was wildly unpopular with the public, was gone.

00:05:30.000 And meanwhile, the underlying conditions had changed since the election in the United States, and particularly since President Trump took office and started aggressively using American policy.

00:05:40.000 To go after the Canadians. 1.00

00:05:43.000 President Trump, of course, has been continuously trolling the Canadians.

00:05:47.000 And the question you have to ask yourself here is what exactly was the strategy?

00:05:50.000 Seriously, what is the thing that President Trump was going for?

00:05:54.000 I've been asking this about President Trump's tariffs on Canada all the way along the line.

00:05:58.000 If President Trump was simply trying to get the Canadians to lower specific tariffs, again, say, American dairy products, okay, so let's negotiate that.

00:06:06.000 But President Trump, in his first term, Literally negotiated himself, the USMCA, which is the governing trade agreement with both Mexico and Canada.

00:06:14.000 And then he overthrew his own USMCA to go after Mexico and Canada on the basis of his specious theories with regard to trade deficits.

00:06:23.000 So he went hard after Canada.

00:06:25.000 He slapped a giant tariff on Canada.

00:06:28.000 And so that became the only issue, really, in the election.

00:06:31.000 All the other issues just became secondary.

00:06:34.000 So could Poliev have done something differently?

00:06:36.000 And a lot of theories.

00:06:37.000 On sort of the MAGA right in the United States, I think many of them trying to get President Trump off the hook for some of the blame for Poliev's loss over there.

00:06:45.000 The theory is that Poliev should have run harder to the right.

00:06:47.000 He should have differentiated himself more from Mark Carney on issues like, say, immigration.

00:06:51.000 He should have bear-hugged Trump.

00:06:53.000 The problem, of course, is that Canada is basically Vermont.

00:06:56.000 This idea that Canada is somehow down-home Alabama, secretly waiting to go deep red, I have yet to see the evidence of that.

00:07:05.000 Well, on the day of the election, President Trump put out a truth that said, quote, America can no longer subsidize Canada with

00:07:35.000 the hundreds of billions of dollars a year that we've been spending in the past.

00:07:38.000 It makes no sense unless Canada is a state.

00:07:40.000 So literally on the day of the Canadian election, President Trump unleashes a truth declaring that people should vote for him.

00:07:48.000 He's not eligible to be Canadian Prime Minister.

00:07:51.000 Nor is the United States going to annex Canada.

00:07:53.000 That is not a thing that is going to happen.

00:07:54.000 We're not invading Canada.

00:07:55.000 We're not annexing Canada.

00:07:57.000 All of this started off as a joke, and I think President Trump is so committed to the bit at this point.

00:08:02.000 That he couldn't get off the train.

00:08:03.000 Plus, he slammed Canada with a wide variety of significant high tariffs.

00:08:11.000 Again, the sort of change in electoral mood in Canada was, in fact, due to both those factors. 0.86

00:08:16.000 Justin Trudeau dropping out because Justin Trudeau is incompetent.

00:08:19.000 Carney gives a feeling to Canadians that he is more solid because he has more of a financial background and he's done a lot more trade deals and all the rest of this sort of stuff.

00:08:28.000 But according to pollsters, Poliev suffered for rhetoric too similar to President Trump's.

00:08:33.000 Abacus data polling last week indicated 46% of Canadians held a negative perception of Poliev, the highest level since the start of the campaign.

00:08:41.000 Now, conservatives didn't get blown out in the election.

00:08:43.000 They still had more than 40% of the popular vote, which is close to the share in the last federal election they won in 2011.

00:08:49.000 The liberals had just over 44%.

00:08:52.000 They benefited from a drop in support for all the smaller parties who seemed to come together around Mark Carney.

00:08:58.000 Carney?

00:08:59.000 For his part, ran a little bit away from Trudeau, but mostly he ran against President Trump.

00:09:05.000 So here is the question.

00:09:07.000 What is the strategy?

00:09:08.000 Is this a good thing?

00:09:10.000 Now, believe it or not, there are some on the isolationist right in the United States who are celebrating this.

00:09:15.000 So Kurt Mills from American Conservative Magazine, again, a very, very strong isolationist, he put out a statement saying, prediction, Trump will and already has, weirdly, get on with Carney.

00:09:28.000 Trump vibes with the smart hyper Machiavellian center-left types.

00:09:31.000 His relationships with Macron and Starmer are strong.

00:09:33.000 He isn't actually friends with Boris Johnson.

00:09:35.000 Poliev could have been Canuck DeSantis. 0.73

00:09:38.000 Okay, so first of all, Canuck DeSantis sounds pretty great.

00:09:40.000 As somebody who is a resident of the state of Florida, Governor DeSantis is an excellent governor.

00:09:43.000 I do not know by any stretch of the imagination how it is better to have a socialist-leaning, Green New Deal nutjob as the sober-faced head of Canada as opposed to the other guy.

00:09:56.000 Who was just less sober-faced?

00:09:58.000 I don't understand how it's a win for the United States to have a far-left-leaning internationalist.

00:10:06.000 You don't talk globalist.

00:10:07.000 Mark Carney is the definition of a globalist.

00:10:09.000 He's the definition of somebody who wants international institutions to run as much as possible.

00:10:14.000 He would like to make greater overtures toward China, for example.

00:10:18.000 And yet there is this idea on some parts of the right that somehow it's better.

00:10:21.000 Now, I think some of that is cope.

00:10:23.000 I think some people are taking the copium.

00:10:24.000 And they are saying, well, it's Polioff's fault.

00:10:26.000 If only there had been another party that was even more right-wing, then that would have worked.

00:10:31.000 Let's be real about this.

00:10:33.000 The rhetorical attacks on Canada have not actually resulted in a net good for the United States.

00:10:39.000 I care about results.

00:10:41.000 What are the results?

00:10:43.000 Is the United States better off because we keep yelling at the Canadians?

00:10:47.000 I mean, clearly, I think we are now worse off because we don't have a friendly leader in Canada who's capable of making a deal.

00:10:54.000 That is going to actually benefit the United States.

00:10:58.000 Is the United States better off for the trade war that we've declared on Canada?

00:11:00.000 I'd love to see the results.

00:11:01.000 If so, I'm waiting to see them.

00:11:05.000 It turns out that the United States, as the sort of sensor of gravity on planet Earth, many of the things that we do have a rather outsized effect.

00:11:12.000 Canada just happens to be one of those effects, and so far those effects are not good.

00:11:16.000 We'll get some more on this in just a moment.

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00:13:16.000 All right, meanwhile.

00:13:17.000 In actual good news, the Trump administration, there are many areas of the Trump administration that I think during the first 100 days have not gone particularly well.

00:13:24.000 That would range from the economy to some areas of foreign policy.

00:13:27.000 However, when it comes to immigration, President Trump has been absolutely stalwart.

00:13:31.000 That was his number one issue.

00:13:32.000 He's actually handled immigration so well that it dropped out of the top four or five issues for Americans.

00:13:37.000 It was the number one or number two issue in every poll for Americans during the 2024 election cycle.

00:13:42.000 Trump comes in and literally on the first day, Everything gets fixed.

00:13:45.000 Because he says, we're going to enforce the border.

00:13:47.000 Don't come here.

00:13:48.000 And people stop coming here.

00:13:50.000 Well, yesterday, Caroline Lovett, the White House press secretary, announced that President Trump is going to be signing an EO, cracking down on illegal immigration.

00:13:58.000 Later this afternoon, President Trump will sign an executive order on Law& Order and another executive order on Sanctuary Cities.

00:14:05.000 The first EO will strengthen and unleash America's law enforcement to pursue criminals and protect innocent citizens.

00:14:13.000 The second EO is centered around protecting American communities from criminal aliens, and it will direct the Attorney General and Secretary of Homeland Security to publish a list of state and local jurisdictions that obstruct the enforcement of federal immigration laws.

00:14:28.000 Okay, so all of that is quite good.

00:14:31.000 He signed three executive orders, including one that instructed Pam Bondi and the Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, to pursue all necessary legal remedies and enforcement measures against so-called sanctuary cities.

00:14:41.000 Again, that is correct.

00:14:42.000 If you have, so here's the deal.

00:14:44.000 Local law enforcement cannot be militarized by the federal government under the Posse Comitatus Act to actually enforce federal law.

00:14:50.000 That is not a thing.

00:14:51.000 However, obstruction of justice, which is a thing that has been happening in these sanctuary cities, Where ICE goes in and you have local law enforcement actively obstructing, getting in the way, declaring they're sanctuary cities and going out of their way to sort of thwart federal law, that is something that the federal government should be cracking down on.

00:15:09.000 Another one of these executive orders aims to bolster legal resources to police officers accused of wrongdoing.

00:15:13.000 The third seeks to enforce existing laws requiring professional truck drivers to be proficient in English, according to the New York Times.

00:15:21.000 Now, President Trump, of course, has also been unleashing ICE to actually We seized a

00:15:52.000 number of guns in there.

00:15:55.000 Again, the raid had been planned for months, according to the DEA.

00:16:01.000 During surveillance, investigators documented drug trafficking, prostitution, and presence of people suspected to be members of the Venezuelan gang Tren d 'Aragua, the international gang MS-13, as well as the Hells Angels.

00:16:13.000 This is a very large raid.

00:16:15.000 Attorney General Bondi, in explaining the nature of the raid, explained there had been a bunch of 911 phone calls during the Biden administration, basically ignored.

00:16:24.000 So to back up, during the Biden administration, they received 170 911 calls to that club alone.

00:16:32.000 That club we were just watching, 170 calls.

00:16:35.000 Wouldn't you think that would have been a red flag?

00:16:37.000 Nothing happened.

00:16:39.000 Guns, shootings, ag batteries, nothing happened.

00:16:42.000 Okay, so again, this is the upside of the Trump administration.

00:16:46.000 Immigration, they've been doing an excellent job, even though courts have been attempting to hamstring them pretty much every step of the way in sort of a funny corollary.

00:16:54.000 Two, the immigration situation.

00:16:57.000 Over the weekend, Kristi Noem, the Secretary of Homeland Security, her handbag was stolen.

00:17:03.000 She had put it underneath a chair in a restaurant, and purse snatchers grabbed it. 0.99

00:17:07.000 Well, the suspects were then nabbed by the authorities, and one of them, it turns out, was apparently in the country, not legally, so that was a bad idea.

00:17:15.000 Tom Homan, the bulldog boarders are, had a bit of a funny quip about all of this.

00:17:20.000 I don't have the criminal history, but I know the one who stole the purse is supposedly in the country legally.

00:17:26.000 But, you know, pick the wrong purse and steal a purse from them. 0.64

00:17:30.000 I mean, Secretary Noem is a strong, strong secretary.

00:17:33.000 So, again, the Trump administration on this matter has actually been completely thorough.

00:17:40.000 They are doing a good job on all this.

00:17:42.000 And they're being very aggressive in their public facing about all of it as well.

00:17:46.000 According to Axios, Trump administration officials late Sunday began placing dozens of posters of arrested unauthorized immigrants along the White House driveway.

00:17:53.000 The posters, which we'd arrested, specify various crimes linked to the pictured immigrants and have the White House's official logo at the bottom, according to Axios.

00:18:02.000 So all of these posters were designed to point out that, again, the goal here is to deport criminal illegal immigrants.

00:18:10.000 Hundreds of these posters were put up.

00:18:12.000 And this is still President Trump's most popular issue.

00:18:15.000 The immigration issue.

00:18:17.000 As well, it should be.

00:18:19.000 Meanwhile, the DOJ is reorienting in a positive direction as well.

00:18:24.000 Our friend Hermie Dillon, who, full disclosure, we've worked with on a bunch of legal cases.

00:18:29.000 Her law firm is excellent.

00:18:30.000 She moved over from her law firm to head the Civil Rights Division over at the Department of Justice, and she's now reorienting the DOJ toward pushing against institutional discrimination under the Civil Rights Act, including universities.

00:18:43.000 And now, that's been apparently a great way of getting people at DOJ, who are, in fact, many of them sort of deep state members embedded with the left, to quit.

00:18:52.000 According to the New York Times, hundreds of lawyers and other staff members are leaving the DOJ's civil rights division as veterans of the office say they've been driven out by Trump administration officials who want to drop its traditional work in order to aggressively pursue cases against the Ivy League, other schools, and liberal cities.

00:19:06.000 Well, good.

00:19:07.000 Harmeet said in an interview over the weekend, now over 100 attorneys decided They'd rather not do what their job requires them to do.

00:19:14.000 I think that's fine.

00:19:15.000 She said, we don't want people in the federal government who feel like it's their pet project to go persecute police departments.

00:19:20.000 The job here is to enforce federal civil rights law, not woke ideology.

00:19:25.000 Now, again, that is great.

00:19:27.000 Harmeet is terrific.

00:19:28.000 She's doing a great job over there. 0.98

00:19:29.000 And it's specifically because, again, that the administration is doing so many really important things that I am concerned about the administration's generalized foreign policy approach.

00:19:41.000 Because administrations rise and fall as a unit.

00:19:44.000 If the American people like President Trump's immigration policy but do not like his economic plans, and the economic plans are pulling in the 30s right now, that is going to sink how they feel about his immigration agenda.

00:19:55.000 If the American people like what President Trump is doing on DEI, I love what President Trump is doing on DEI, but they don't like his foreign policy or believe that his foreign policy is going to lead to a more fractious and conflict-ridden world, that drags him down.

00:20:09.000 Again, presidencies rise or fall as a unit.

00:20:13.000 Now, one of these sort of truisms of American politics is that foreign policy doesn't tend to matter all that much.

00:20:17.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:20:18.000 It doesn't matter all that much until it absolutely does.

00:20:21.000 Excellent example of this would be Joe Biden.

00:20:23.000 So if you look at Joe Biden's approval rating during his presidency, his approval ratings from the time he was elected were fairly high.

00:20:32.000 After his election, his original approval ratings were up in the 50s.

00:20:36.000 And then they started to slowly decline.

00:20:40.000 Where they really started to cross streams, where the disapproved versus the approved started to cross streams, was specifically around the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

00:20:49.000 So his numbers had been declining, albeit slowly, and then the withdrawal from Afghanistan absolutely cratered him.

00:20:54.000 He was underwater the rest of his administration.

00:20:55.000 Because it turns out, there's one thing Americans do not like, and that is our enemies winning.

00:20:59.000 We don't like it.

00:21:00.000 And the world is filled with American enemies.

00:21:03.000 And those enemies, yes, include Russia.

00:21:05.000 Yes, include China.

00:21:06.000 Yes, include Iran.

00:21:08.000 Not because we don't like them, but because they very clearly do not like us and have their own actual interests.

00:21:13.000 They say those interests out loud.

00:21:15.000 I'm always bemused and puzzled by people who seem to believe that Iran, China, Russia, and our foreign enemies are only reacting to us as opposed to they have independent interests that conflict with ours, that their agenda for the world is not the same as ours, and they see us as an enemy.

00:21:30.000 That is very clearly true, for example, about the Russians.

00:21:33.000 They're not shy about this.

00:21:35.000 I discussed this on the show at length on Friday.

00:21:38.000 We went through the thought of Alexander Dugin that happens to match up with the thought of Vladimir Putin and Sergei Lavrov and everybody else who is in power in Russia.

00:21:46.000 They believe that the great obstacle to Russian imperial ambition is the Atlantic Alliance, meaning NATO, but effectively the United States.

00:21:56.000 If Russia is able to take over Ukraine, this is one of their chief goals. 0.99

00:21:59.000 It has been since the 90s.

00:22:01.000 If they're able to completely ingest Ukraine, regardless of how many Americans don't care about Ukraine, they will care if Vladimir Putin starts strolling through the center of Kiev.

00:22:11.000 The same thing was true about Afghanistan.

00:22:13.000 Look at the polls.

00:22:14.000 Americans did not like that we were there in Afghanistan.

00:22:16.000 You know what they liked even worse?

00:22:17.000 When we withdrew in shame in September of 2021.

00:22:23.000 When that happened, it absolutely cratered the Biden presidency.

00:22:26.000 If Ukraine were to be full-scale taken over by the Russians, that would be quite bad for the United States, for our allies, for NATO, for all the other countries that are along the borders of Russia, and for international politics more generally.

00:22:36.000 Because, by the way, if Russia were able to completely ingest Ukraine, the next step would very obviously be a blockade of Taiwan by the Chinese government. 0.71

00:22:44.000 They would start to occupy the outlying islands.

00:22:46.000 And so far, President Trump, when it comes to Taiwan, has said that if that were to happen, we'd hit them with tariffs.

00:22:50.000 Okay, well, we're already hitting them with tariffs, and it doesn't seem to be deterring them at all, as we'll get to in a moment.

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00:23:58.000 Also, why should Americans be worried about higher taxes on carried interest?

00:24:01.000 That sounds like a rich person thing.

00:24:02.000 Well, the answer is because hiking the tax on carried interest means higher taxes on investments that are currently helping Main Street economies grow and thrive.

00:24:09.000 Left-wing politicians in Washington have been trying to raise taxes on carried interest for years.

00:24:13.000 They'd love America's tax rate to be higher than China, France, Germany, even Canada.

00:24:18.000 We don't want that to happen.

00:24:19.000 American investment should stay in America, fueling the growth of businesses that create jobs and build communities.

00:24:24.000 America's private equity investors directly support 13 million hardworking American jobs.

00:24:29.000 It's time to take a stand for small business and speak up against tax increases on American investment.

00:24:33.000 Tax hikes on carried interest are bad for the country.

00:24:36.000 So what is carried interest?

00:24:37.000 Basically, carried interest is the share of a profit of an investment that's paid to an investment manager that is basically sort of an alternative investment bonus.

00:24:46.000 So if you invest really well, then you get carried interest.

00:24:49.000 And that carried interest then is taxed at a capital gains tax rate as opposed to a basic income tax rate.

00:24:55.000 Why is that important?

00:24:56.000 Because again, the way to incentivize better investment is in fact to keep the taxes low.

00:25:01.000 Tax hikes on carried interest are bad for America, just like tax hikes generally are not good for the country.

00:25:06.000 That is one of the reasons why you should care about all of this.

00:25:08.000 This has been paid for by the American Investment Council.

00:25:11.000 So what exactly is the Trump administration approach with regard to Ukraine?

00:25:15.000 It remains unclear.

00:25:16.000 Russia continues to be intransigent.

00:25:18.000 So Russia lies about their policies all the time.

00:25:21.000 They are now ordering, quote unquote, a three-day unilateral ceasefire in Ukraine, supposedly for next week, according to the New York Times.

00:25:28.000 Of course, their last ceasefire, which was for Easter, really wasn't a ceasefire.

00:25:32.000 They were flying drones the entire ceasefire.

00:25:33.000 I know, because I was over there.

00:25:36.000 According to the New York Times, the Kremlin said Russian forces would stop fighting on May 8th for 72 hours to mark the May 9th celebration of the Soviet Union's victory.

00:25:44.000 In World War II, which is a major holiday in Russia.

00:25:46.000 In Russia, they do not celebrate the signing of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which probably led to World War II in the first place, but put that aside.

00:25:52.000 The Kremlin said during this period, all hostilities will cease.

00:25:55.000 Russia believes the Ukrainian side should follow this example.

00:25:58.000 And then Putin's spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said the declaration underlines our willingness to get on the path toward a peaceful resolution.

00:26:06.000 Well, no, it doesn't.

00:26:08.000 If they wanted a 30-day ceasefire, they could do that literally right now.

00:26:11.000 Like today.

00:26:12.000 They don't need these three-day fake ceasefires, which are obviously an attempt to slow play the Trump administration.

00:26:18.000 By the way, the demands of the Russians still, today, include full demilitarization of Ukraine.

00:26:26.000 According to the New York Post, Russia shamelessly demanded the U.S. lift its sanctions and that Kiev be demilitarized and recognized that 20% of Ukraine belongs to Russia.

00:26:36.000 Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov insisted on Monday that Russia will accept nothing less than total victory over Ukraine.

00:26:41.000 After Steve Whitcoff, the Trump special envoy, again, the idea that Steve Whitcoff has any sort of special negotiating expertise, I want to see one iota of evidence that this is the case, because he seems to just travel around the world being taken in by various dictators, the Emir of Qatar,

00:26:58.000 or being taken in by Vladimir Putin, with whom he said he was striking up a friendship.

00:27:02.000 When asked by the Brazilian newspaper, O Globo, what terms would Russia agree to come to the negotiation table with Ukraine?

00:27:09.000 Lavrov then rattled off a list of items.

00:27:12.000 Quote, the international recognition of Crimea, Sevastopol, Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and the Parisian regions as part of Russia, as sovereign Russian territory.

00:27:23.000 He insisted that, basically, Ukraine give up its military.

00:27:30.000 And also, that, at the same time, the West lift all the sanctions.

00:27:34.000 And they changed their constitution.

00:27:36.000 Okay, so...

00:27:36.000 In the Ukrainian constitution is a commitment to try to pursue entry into NATO.

00:27:41.000 So they'd have to change their own constitution.

00:27:45.000 So all of that says that the Russians are not interested whatsoever.

00:27:49.000 I mean, there's no evidence of their desire for any serious peace negotiation here.

00:27:55.000 Because what Lavrov is saying here is obviously a complete non-starter.

00:27:59.000 Okay, but what is the U.S.'s perspective going to be here?

00:28:02.000 Well, J.D. Vance, the Vice President of the United States.

00:28:05.000 He was on with our friend Charlie Kirk, and he says, if this doesn't stop, if the war doesn't stop, the Ukrainians won't win.

00:28:10.000 Okay, well, that's true if you cut off support for them.

00:28:14.000 And by the way, there are actually three possible outcomes.

00:28:17.000 One would be heavy support to the Ukrainians, sufficient that they actually push Russia out of these areas. 0.98

00:28:21.000 That is a very unlikely outcome because it would require heavy levels of support the West is not willing to provide and risks the possibility of more Russian escalation.

00:28:29.000 Then there is possible outcome number two, the most plausible.

00:28:32.000 And the outcome and the one that the West should be pursuing.

00:28:35.000 And that is effectively a 1953-style Korean armistice.

00:28:39.000 Meaning, the lines are drawn where they are drawn.

00:28:41.000 The war ends.

00:28:43.000 Ukraine re-militarizes, strengthens, and everybody moves forward.

00:28:49.000 Okay, and then there's possibility number three, which is that Ukraine just completely collapses because the West withdraws.

00:28:53.000 Now, here's the Vice President.

00:28:56.000 If this doesn't stop...

00:28:57.000 The Ukrainians aren't winning the war. 1.00

00:28:59.000 I think there's this weird idea among the mainstream media that if this thing goes on for just another few years, the Russians will collapse, the Ukrainians will take their territory back, and everything will go back to the way that it was before the war.

00:29:13.000 That is not the reality that we live in.

00:29:15.000 If this thing goes on for another few years, we could have, you know, societies collapsing.

00:29:21.000 The demographics of both of these countries are a nightmare. 0.74

00:29:24.000 You could have millions of more people killed if this thing goes on for another few years, and it can risk escalating into a nuclear war.

00:29:31.000 Okay, so I have a question.

00:29:33.000 What is the solution then?

00:29:34.000 Because you need to get the Russians to the table. 0.96

00:29:36.000 It takes two to tango.

00:29:38.000 I mean, so I'm hearing Vance correctly assess that Ukraine is not going to be taking back Crimea or the Luhansk-Donesk-Kerson region anytime soon.

00:29:47.000 That's true.

00:29:51.000 In order for there to be a deal, the Russians need to come to the table. 1.00

00:29:54.000 What is the thing that would drive the Russians to the table? 0.97

00:29:57.000 So far, I'm not seeing it.

00:29:59.000 And Steve Witkoff doesn't seem to be doing anything to actually get the Russians to the table at all.

00:30:05.000 Meanwhile, President Trump, over the course of the last 24 hours, has been saying that he believes there will be a deal with Iran.

00:30:12.000 Now, let me ask a very simple question.

00:30:14.000 President Trump called the Obama deal with Iran, the JCPOA.

00:30:18.000 He called it literally the worst deal in history.

00:30:21.000 In history.

00:30:22.000 He said it over and over and over.

00:30:24.000 Here's President Trump saying it. 0.99

00:30:26.000 I think the whole Iran deal is the dumbest deal that you can imagine. 0.96

00:30:30.000 I think it's going to go down as one of the worst deals in the history of this country, maybe of the world. 0.97

00:30:35.000 Never, ever, ever in my life have I seen any transaction so incompetently negotiated as our deal with Iran. 0.90

00:30:47.000 It's just unbelievable.

00:30:49.000 I think it's the worst document I've ever seen as far as a negotiation is concerned.

00:30:54.000 The Iran deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions the United States has ever entered into.

00:31:03.000 Frankly, that deal is an embarrassment to the United States, and I don't think you've heard the last of it. 0.96

00:31:10.000 That horrible, disgusting, absolutely incompetent deal with Iran. 0.98

00:31:16.000 I tell you what. 0.98

00:31:17.000 I guarantee you that if I were president, this deal wouldn't be made.

00:31:21.000 A deal would be made that's 100 times better.

00:31:24.000 So, what was that terrible deal that Obama cut with Iran?

00:31:29.000 Well, it included the so-called P5 plus 1. The five permanent members of the UN Security Council, China, France, Russia, the UK, the US, and Germany, P5 plus 1, and the EU, all signed in for the JCPOA, which is Obama's awful Iran deal.

00:31:42.000 Again, not me saying it was an awful deal.

00:31:44.000 President Trump saying it was an awful deal.

00:31:45.000 What exactly?

00:31:46.000 Did it do?

00:31:48.000 Well, basically, it set a 10-year limit on the use of particular centrifuges.

00:31:54.000 According to the Council on Foreign Relations synopsis of the deal, Iran agreed not to produce either highly enriched uranium or plutonium that could be used in a nuclear weapon.

00:32:04.000 And they said they were going to ensure that four down the tons and the Iraq facilities, which are their... 0.80

00:32:09.000 Various nuclear facilities pursued only civilian nuclear energy.

00:32:12.000 Now, let's be real about this.

00:32:13.000 Iran doesn't need nuclear energy, like, at all.

00:32:15.000 They're one of the most oil-rich, natural-gas-rich regions on planet Earth.

00:32:18.000 They are not technologically sophisticated.

00:32:20.000 They are not interested in a green new revolution over there.

00:32:23.000 The reason they are pursuing nuclear facilities is because they are pursuing nuclear weapons.

00:32:27.000 Quite obviously, the JCPOA was supposed to limit the numbers and types of centrifuges that Iran could operate.

00:32:34.000 And the IAEA was supposed to somehow enforce that.

00:32:36.000 They're going to be allowed to use their centrifuges to spin up to a certain level of purity in their uranium, enrichment in their uranium.

00:32:45.000 If you enrich uranium to 5%, that's good for like a nuclear power plant.

00:32:49.000 At 20%, you can do it for a research reactor or medical purposes.

00:32:53.000 You need 90% uranium enrichment in order to get to nuclear.

00:32:55.000 So the idea was keep them to 5%.

00:32:57.000 But the problem, of course, is that the spin up from 5% to 90% is actually quite fast.

00:33:01.000 It doesn't take years to spin up uranium from 5% enrichment to 90% enrichment.

00:33:06.000 The deal also got rid of sanctions on Iran, freed up them to use money for ballistic and terrorist activity, ballistic missiles and terrorist activity.

00:33:15.000 The IAEA was supposed to monitor them, but they weren't giving them full authority to see anything in Fordow or Natanz or any of the rest of their nuclear reactors.

00:33:25.000 That's the deal that President Trump said was the worst deal ever.

00:33:28.000 Okay, that's the deal.

00:33:29.000 It also had a 10-year sunset that basically said after 10 years, all the sanctions are gone and Iran can develop nuclear weapons.

00:33:35.000 So it was clearly an awful deal.

00:33:37.000 So the question right now is, what deal is the Trump administration seeking to cut?

00:33:41.000 And you hear a bunch of conflicting messages from the Trump administration.

00:33:44.000 One of them, the only one that would be sufficient, is complete denuclearization of Iran. 0.93

00:33:50.000 No nuclear facilities.

00:33:51.000 None.

00:33:52.000 Why?

00:33:52.000 Well, because why would you possibly trust the molitocracy in Iran not to lie about what they are doing with their nuclear facilities?

00:34:01.000 I mean, first of all, they don't even need to lie.

00:34:02.000 We all know what they're doing with their nuclear facilities.

00:34:04.000 You think they are really trying to power up their country on nuclear energy?

00:34:08.000 That's their big priority?

00:34:10.000 In a country they can't even export oil right now?

00:34:12.000 They have such an oil glut that their entire economy has basically cratered.

00:34:18.000 Because of the maximum pressure campaign of President Trump.

00:34:21.000 So if you were to get rid of the sanctions and then to sign off on, well, they can have nuclear, but they can't actually have nuclear nuclear, that is just the Obama deal.

00:34:30.000 That's just Obama 2.0. 0.62

00:34:32.000 While President Trump...

00:34:33.000 After saying all that about the Obama nuclear deal, said yesterday that an Iran deal is going to happen.

00:34:38.000 On the Iran situation, I think we're doing very well.

00:34:43.000 I think a deal is going to be made there.

00:34:45.000 That's going to happen.

00:34:47.000 Pretty sure it's going to happen.

00:34:48.000 We'll have something without having to start dropping bombs all over the place.

00:34:55.000 Okay, well, the problem with that, obviously, is that when the president says a deal will happen, we'll have something without dropping bombs all over the place.

00:35:01.000 Well, I mean, first of all, It's not necessary for the United States to drop bombs all over the place.

00:35:06.000 I mean, I'm sure it would be helpful to Israel, for example, if the United States were to lend some B2s for one sortie over Iran.

00:35:13.000 And that could destroy the nuclear facilities, and no, it wouldn't start a giant world war.

00:35:17.000 Iran is so weak right now that after Israel destroyed their entire air defense system, they uselessly fired a bunch of missiles at Israel, which caused zero casualties.

00:35:27.000 So this idea that Iran is like a sleeping giant waiting to awake at their nuclear reactors, Are finished off is not true.

00:35:33.000 That's not true whatsoever.

00:35:35.000 And we also know that the United States actually has struck significant Iranian targets before with no actual serious blowback, including the killing of Qasem Soleimani during Trump administration number one.

00:35:45.000 But if the Trump administration were to sign a crappy deal with Iran that would allow them a pathway to a nuclear weapon, that would allow them to open up their markets again, to reconstitute their terror network, that would not be good for the world either and would be bad for the Trump administration. 0.75

00:35:59.000 And then there is China.

00:36:01.000 China continues to grow more and more aggressive. 0.99

00:36:04.000 And this is where our trade policy comes in.

00:36:06.000 So if the idea was that tariffs on China were somehow going to curb their aggressive intent, that is not yet in evidence at the very, very least.

00:36:13.000 And again, there have been some mixed signals from the Trump administration on this.

00:36:16.000 Remember, TikTok is still operating despite the fact that there is a congressional mandate for TikTok to come.

00:36:21.000 To an end, or at least be divested of its Chinese ownership.

00:36:24.000 Right now, China is making aggressive moves in the South China Sea, according to the Washington Post.

00:36:29.000 The Philippines and China have each unfurled their flags on a disputed reef claimed by both nations in the South China Sea, escalating tensions, reigniting hostilities over Beijing's expansive territorial claims in regional waters.

00:36:40.000 Now, why does that matter?

00:36:41.000 Well, because the South China Sea is the source of pretty much all shipping coming from the Far East to the rest of the world and vice versa.

00:36:47.000 So, a lot of shipping moves through the South China Sea, I asked my friend and sponsor, Perplexity.

00:36:52.000 Approximately how much?

00:36:53.000 And the answer is, according to estimates, one-third of all global maritime trade, somewhere between 30 and 33 percent, passes through the South China Sea every year.

00:37:02.000 That's like $3.4 to $3.6 trillion worth of goods annually.

00:37:06.000 It's particularly important for energy shipments.

00:37:08.000 About 40 percent of all global petroleum products and 45 percent of crude oil transported by sea pass through.

00:37:14.000 The South China Sea.

00:37:15.000 It's a crucial artery for China, Japan, South Korea, and many other Southeast Asian nations.

00:37:20.000 A Chinese takeover of the South China Sea could effectively cut off the east from the west in a lot of very important ways, which is why I also asked perplexity about China targeting islands and land masses in the South China Sea.

00:37:32.000 There are a couple of areas where China has been particularly heavy on this.

00:37:34.000 One is called the Spratly Islands.

00:37:36.000 They've apparently reclaimed land and built artificial islands on seven reefs in the Spratly Archipelago.

00:37:41.000 Equipping them with military installations, airstrips, ports, and surveillance equipment.

00:37:45.000 There have also been recent standoffs, as we mentioned, at Sandy Cay, which is a small sandbar near Fitu Island, which is controlled by the Philippines.

00:37:53.000 There's also the Paracel Islands.

00:37:55.000 China's controlled those since 1974, but they've been increasing their militarization.

00:37:59.000 They've actually been attempting to build entire islands in the Spratlys in an attempt to maximize military presence there.

00:38:07.000 Who controls the South China Sea has a bottleneck.

00:38:10.000 Which is one of the reasons why the Chinese are attempting to turn the South China Sea into essentially a Chinese lake. 0.98

00:38:17.000 Manila deployed Navy and Coast Guard ships Sunday to Sandy Kay and two neighboring islands, where its national flag was planted, according to a statement in photos from its National Task Force for the West Philippine Sea.

00:38:28.000 And that, of course, is a response to China's Coast Guard seizing the Sand Bank earlier this month and then planting their own flag on it.

00:38:35.000 Now, again, China is moving aggressively to consolidate space in this entire area, figuring that if it can push the U.S. Navy further and further away from Taiwan, that will also solidify its opportunity to take Taiwan or blockade Taiwan, which would completely

00:38:50.000 melt down the world economy, probably comparatively to China's benefit. 0.98

00:38:54.000 Now, again, the way that President Trump was attempting to deal with this was through a massive tariff on China.

00:39:00.000 As I've said before, I'm totally on board with this.

00:39:02.000 President Trump should be doing that, but you actually have to fulfill the preconditions before you do that.

00:39:08.000 You have to make sure that you are economic

00:39:09.000 Economically ready for that.

00:39:10.000 Militarily ready for that.

00:39:11.000 Your supply chains are in order.

00:39:13.000 And all the rest.

00:39:15.000 The question is whether President Trump is actually doing that.

00:39:18.000 This whole tariff process.

00:39:20.000 Because he's trying to shut down China. 0.63

00:39:22.000 Or because he has a sort of bizarre view of trade.

00:39:26.000 So, President Trump did an interview at the Atlantic.

00:39:29.000 Now again, I don't think the President should be doing interviews with Jeffrey Goldberg.

00:39:32.000 I think Jeffrey Goldberg is the lowest of the low.

00:39:35.000 He was an Obama stenographer.

00:39:37.000 And reaching out to the Atlantic, I just don't see why.

00:39:40.000 But President Trump gave an interview to Jeffrey Goldberg in which he talked about his tariff plan.

00:39:45.000 And here is how he discussed it.

00:39:47.000 Quote, Look, we lost trillions of dollars last year on trade with Biden.

00:39:51.000 Trillions of dollars.

00:39:52.000 Every year we lose trillions.

00:39:53.000 Trillions, right?

00:39:54.000 Hundreds of billions, but basically trillions.

00:39:55.000 We went over the ledge into the T-word. 0.77

00:39:58.000 And I can't imagine it's sustainable to have a country that can lose that much money for years into the future.

00:40:02.000 Okay, so first of all, it's not how trade deficits work.

00:40:04.000 You're not losing money when you run a trade deficit any more than I lose money when I buy a product from the grocery store.

00:40:09.000 That money comes back in the form of people buying treasuries, in the form of people investing in American companies, in the form of them buying real estate.

00:40:15.000 The money comes back just on capital services.

00:40:18.000 There's all sorts of ways the money comes back.

00:40:20.000 It just may not be on manufactured goods.

00:40:23.000 He says, we're going to be very rich.

00:40:24.000 We're going to make a lot of money.

00:40:25.000 I don't think the answer is that it will affect me.

00:40:27.000 It always affects you a little bit.

00:40:29.000 I don't think there's certainly no theory like you say that if it hits a certain number, I don't know where it is today.

00:40:32.000 How's the stock market?

00:40:33.000 And then he said, this is a transition period.

00:40:36.000 It's a big transition.

00:40:37.000 I'm resetting the table.

00:40:38.000 I'm resetting a lot of years.

00:40:39.000 Not from the beginning, you know.

00:40:40.000 Our country was most successful from 1850 or so to, think of this from 1870 really, from 1870 to 1913.

00:40:46.000 And it was all tariffs.

00:40:47.000 And then some great genius said, let's go and tax the people instead of taxing other countries.

00:40:52.000 So, again, that is a vision of tariffs that is very much in line with the idea that he just likes tariffs.

00:40:56.000 And so what he's doing with China is actually more of a cover for his love of tariffs than it is about boxing in China.

00:41:03.000 Either way, the markets are not responding particularly well to this.

00:41:05.000 And again, the effect of the tariffs has not really hit yet.

00:41:08.000 The empty ships are going to start arriving at any moment now.

00:41:12.000 According to Investor's Business Daily, the Port of Los Angeles is now warning that there will be difficult decisions ahead as all the shipments from China cease.

00:41:20.000 Again, it is one thing to cut off China at the knees. 0.89

00:41:22.000 It's another thing to set up a trading system that actually in some ways benefits China comparatively.

00:41:27.000 Meaning that if the EU doesn't cut off China, but the United States does, if countries in...

00:41:32.000 Southeast Asia start reorienting toward China as opposed to the United States.

00:41:36.000 That is not a win for the United States, particularly when the President is slamming those countries with their own tariffs.

00:41:42.000 According to Investors Business Daily, President Trump's trade war policies are expected to bring about a 35% decline in cargo arriving at the Port of LA by next week.

00:41:51.000 That is according to the Executive Director Gene Sirocco.

00:41:55.000 His warning came during the Port's Board of Harbor Commissioners meeting April 24th.

00:41:59.000 With the executive director saying retailers and manufacturers typically put in orders to factories in Asia around three to four months in advance of shipments, Trump's 90-day pause on the broad reciprocal tariffs resulted in no real difference for businesses because everybody is sort of not sure what's going to happen, whether Trump puts those back in place or not.

00:42:16.000 He added that U.S. exporters are getting hit hard by retaliatory tariffs amid Trump's trade war, and that includes agriculture, heavy duty manufacturing and information technology services.

00:42:25.000 Unions are starting to sound off, right?

00:42:28.000 This is supposed to benefit manufacturing unions, but the Longshore and Warehouse Union came out with a very strong statement yesterday, quote unquote, unequivocally condemning the recent tariffs the Trump administration has imposed.

00:42:39.000 Again, this is a very strong statement from...

00:42:56.000 A union, right?

00:42:57.000 Those are the people that President Trump is supposedly attempting to protect with a lot of this tariff policy.

00:43:01.000 Now, President Trump has also suggested that revenue from tariffs is going to somehow replace the income tax.

00:43:07.000 Well, if that were to happen, basically you'd have to increase tariffs on all incoming goods to the United States by 67% or something.

00:43:15.000 You'd have to increase them to 67%.

00:43:17.000 And then you'd have to assume no drop-off in actual purchases in order to replace anything remotely like the income tax.

00:43:24.000 As the Wall Street Journal points out, Trump's statements point to a central riddle of his trade agenda.

00:43:30.000 Whether the point of higher tariffs is raising money or gaining leverage to strike better deals with trading partners, as some administration officials and congressional Republicans insist.

00:43:38.000 But the idea that we are going to be replaced, listen, if we were able to replace the income tax and tariffs, I'd be for it.

00:43:44.000 It's just the math doesn't work.

00:43:46.000 And so the biggest thing right now that matters for Republicans is getting this gigantic Big, beautiful bill done.

00:43:54.000 It has to get done.

00:43:55.000 It just has to.

00:43:56.000 Because if that falls through, if there is no preservation of the Trump tax cuts, the economy is going to freefall.

00:44:03.000 So, right now, Speaker Johnson is pushing for passage of the big, beautiful bill by Memorial Day, which is four weeks away.

00:44:10.000 According to Politico, House Republicans will launch a legislative sprint when they return to Washington on Monday, with key committees set to finally put GOP pledges on taxes, energy defense, and border security into legislative text.

00:44:22.000 The problem is, unclear if you can get everybody on board, including many of the conservatives in the caucus.

00:44:29.000 Representative Darren LaHood of Illinois suggested his colleagues on the House Ways and Means Committee will not be ready to advance the tax portion of the bill until early June, which of course is way past the Memorial Day deadline.

00:44:40.000 There's been a lot of infighting inside the House Republican caucus.

00:44:45.000 Meanwhile, Johnson is pushing to move quickly, but there are a lot of pitfalls ahead on spending.

00:44:49.000 Republicans still haven't seen a plan to meet.

00:44:51.000 The shared goal of slashing $1.5 trillion in spending over the next 10 years.

00:44:55.000 And some Republicans want that number to be even higher.

00:44:58.000 But then you have some populist Republicans, say Josh Howley in the Senate, who doesn't want to cut Medicaid at all, doesn't want to touch any of the entitlement programs.

00:45:05.000 So it will take an act of political leisure domain.

00:45:10.000 It will have to be basically political magic for Johnson and Thune to get something through.

00:45:14.000 I think it will happen, but it's going to be a complex and difficult process, absolutely for sure.

00:45:20.000 Okay, meanwhile, in other news, the media continued to melt down over the failures of 60 Minutes to basically allow the inmates to run the asylum.

00:45:31.000 So 60 Minutes has had serious credibility and reporting problems for quite a while.

00:45:36.000 It's a very biased program.

00:45:38.000 Sherry Redstone, who's the head of CBS's parent company, Paramount, has basically asked to screen or at least know what exactly 60 Minutes is talking about.

00:45:46.000 And this caused Bill Owens, who was the...

00:45:51.000 Well, Scott Pelley, who is one of the faces of 60 Minutes, he did a monologue at the end of 60 Minutes on Sunday in which he ripped into management.

00:46:04.000 stories we pursued for 57 years are often controversial lately the israel gaza war and the trump administration bill made sure they were accurate and fair he was tough that way

00:46:19.000 But our parent company, Paramount, is trying to complete a merger.

00:46:24.000 The Trump administration must approve it.

00:46:27.000 Paramount began to supervise our content in new ways.

00:46:32.000 None of our stories has been blocked, but Bill felt he lost the independence that honest journalism requires.

00:46:40.000 No one here is happy about it.

00:46:43.000 But in resigning, Bill proved one thing.

00:46:47.000 He was the right person.

00:46:51.000 Well, was he though?

00:46:53.000 Was he?

00:46:54.000 Because here is the thing.

00:46:56.000 You have Scott Pelley there saying they do a wonderful job with all these stories.

00:46:59.000 Well, here was Leslie Stahl like two weeks ago asking a person who was literally in a Hamas tunnel, like kidnapped by Hamas in a Hamas tunnel, whether Hamas was nice to him or not.

00:47:09.000 Just genius level journal.

00:47:11.000 I can't imagine why Sherry Redstone was concerned about 60 Minutes. 0.96

00:47:14.000 They were beating me and starving me.

00:47:16.000 Do you think they starved you or they just didn't have food?

00:47:20.000 No, I think they starved me and they would often eat in front of me and not offer me food.

00:47:27.000 I mean, what a crazy question from Leslie Stahl.

00:47:29.000 Do you think that actually they were starving or maybe it was the Israelis starving them, which is why you were starving. 0.85

00:47:34.000 Hamas has been stealing all the food aid coming in.

00:47:36.000 It's the reason why Israel has now cut off the food aid.

00:47:38.000 It's because Hamas was stealing all of it. 0.93

00:47:40.000 And the only way to get the hostages free, presumably, is to actually cut off this.

00:47:43.000 That's what 60 Minutes is.

00:47:45.000 So what they're really mad about is the same thing that the Washington Post editors were mad about when Jeff Bezos was like, guys, by the way, you don't get to basically run whatever you want using an outlet that I own.

00:47:54.000 So, again, 60 Minutes has been a wildly biased program for decades.

00:48:00.000 They're getting what they deserve right now.

00:48:02.000 And no, Bill Owens isn't a hero for standing up to management in any way, shape, or form.

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