The Ben Shapiro Show - September 30, 2026


Candace Owens Is Getting a Taste of Her Own Medicine

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Ben Shapiro
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Candace Owens Charlie Kirk Grok Brigitte Macron Gary Javich Eminem Milo Yiannopoulos Harvey Weinstein Emmanuel Macron Tyler Robinson Elena Zelenska Justin Trudeau Brian Harpole Kenneth Anger Robert Hild Josh Hammer Seth Dillon Tyler Boyer Paul Revere Erica Kirk and 6 more
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10 minutes

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1,900

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162

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13

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33

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31

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00:00:00.000 Well, well, well, there's a certain rich irony when people who spend their entire careers trafficking in unsubstantiated rumors, cruel and evil rumors about other people, when it turns out that there is more evidence that they themselves have done something quite, yeah, when it turns out that there's more evidence for that than any of the stuff they've been saying, well, I think we owe it to just enjoy the Schoenfreude.
00:00:23.000 All righty.
00:00:24.000 In the hot internet rumor of the day, in the hot internet rumor of the day, I know I've gone without commenting on this.
00:00:30.000 Because, but it is the hot internet rumor of the day. 0.98
00:00:35.000 The rumor is that Candace Owens is a lesbian. 1.00
00:00:40.000 That is the internet rumor of the day. 0.91
00:00:42.000 Now, normally I would ignore stuff like this, except that Candace Owens so richly deserves every element of this.
00:00:49.000 Every element of this.
00:00:50.000 Why don't we begin with a simple fact?
00:00:53.000 The evidence to support this theory is significantly more convincing than the evidence of any conspiracy theory she has ever pushed forward, any of them.
00:01:03.000 It's not me saying it. 0.57
00:01:04.000 It's Grok.
00:01:05.000 So somebody asked Grok, which theory has more evidence? 0.68
00:01:09.000 Candace Owens is a lesbian or someone other than Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk?
00:01:14.000 And Grok says the Candace Owens rumor has more presented material.
00:01:18.000 The someone else killed Charlie Kirk claim has far less.
00:01:20.000 Neither is proven.
00:01:21.000 One is an unverified data dump thread from two days ago.
00:01:23.000 The other requires discarding a substantial official case that already survived a preliminary hearing.
00:01:29.000 And again, Candace deserves every single bit.
00:01:33.000 Of this, like all of it. 0.92
00:01:35.000 I don't know whether the rumors that Candace Owens drives a Subaru are true.
00:01:39.000 I don't know whether Candace Owens has a deep desire to watch WNBA basketball.
00:01:45.000 I do not know whether she enjoys the stylings of Katie Lang.
00:01:48.000 I don't know any of those, but I'm just going to point out here is a really, really, really incomplete list of people that Candace Owens has accused of things without evidence.
00:01:57.000 Brigitte Macron of having testicles, the first lady of Ukraine, Elena Zelenska of going on a New York shopping spree.
00:02:04.000 Brian Harpool, Charlie Kirk's former security chief, of knowing about Charlie's assassination ahead of time and covering it up. 0.98
00:02:09.000 She's being sued by Harpool.
00:02:11.000 Some rando McFaith from Nebraska named Gary Javich.
00:02:14.000 Sorry, Gary. 0.96
00:02:15.000 Of being a part of a Jewish Freemasonic lodge and conspiring with me to kill Charlie Kirk. 0.99
00:02:20.000 A rando LDS kid named Robert Hild of killing Charlie. 0.54
00:02:22.000 Hild sued Candace yesterday.
00:02:24.000 Josh Hammer of having advanced knowledge of Charlie's assassination.
00:02:27.000 Seth Dillon of also having advanced knowledge of Charlie's assassination.
00:02:30.000 Eminem of being secretly blackmailed and controlled by political handlers to promote politics.
00:02:35.000 The victims of Harvey Weinstein of all lying.
00:02:37.000 And Erica Kirk. 0.98
00:02:38.000 Of killing her husband, but also being a lesbian. 0.99
00:02:42.000 And also Tyler Boyer of being a swinger with his wife. 1.00
00:02:42.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
00:02:48.000 So, do we know whether Candace Owens plays rock, paper, scissors? 0.86
00:02:56.000 We do not know. 0.62
00:02:58.000 We have no clue.
00:03:00.000 But has anyone ever so richly deserved anything as what is happening to Candace Owens right now? 1.00
00:03:06.000 She literally sells a mug on her website that says fake and gay. 0.97
00:03:12.000 It says, so you're telling me everything is fake and gay? 0.99
00:03:14.000 Well, we're maybe saying one thing is fake and gay. 0.99
00:03:20.000 A little. 1.00
00:03:20.000 Maybe. 1.00
00:03:21.000 Maybe. 0.85
00:03:23.000 And of course, here she was calling pretty much everyone she doesn't like gay, which hits a little different. 0.99
00:03:32.000 Oh, Macron is very clearly a homosexual. 0.98
00:03:35.000 I think that's very obvious. 0.99
00:03:36.000 People have come out and talked about sleeping with him, men.
00:03:38.000 He's never sued them for anything.
00:03:40.000 Really?
00:03:40.000 Very weird.
00:03:41.000 It's not a coincidence that Justin Trudeau is gay, Obama, gay. 1.00
00:03:45.000 Zelensky, gay. 1.00
00:03:47.000 Emmanuel Macron, gay and married to a trans man who molested him when he was a child. 1.00
00:03:52.000 First thing I want to say is Eminem is obviously a gay man. 0.99
00:03:55.000 It's very sad that Eminem cleaned out his closet but never came out of his closet. 0.99
00:04:00.000 Oh no, Paul Revere, the British are coming. 1.00
00:04:03.000 It's actually. 1.00
00:04:04.000 Just stop.
00:04:04.000 It's just so childish.
00:04:06.000 And it's gay. 1.00
00:04:07.000 It's gay. 1.00
00:04:07.000 It's gay. 1.00
00:04:09.000 It's gay. 1.00
00:04:10.000 It's implausible. 1.00
00:04:11.000 It's simply gut. 1.00
00:04:11.000 It is fake and gay. 1.00
00:04:12.000 You can say, oh no, it's totally adorable to exchange numbers to the 15 year olds and then kind of have this relationship with them where you're commenting and saying, making lesbian jokes. 1.00
00:04:25.000 I don't. 0.55
00:04:26.000 You know, swing for the next team yet.
00:04:27.000 Is that appropriate to say to a 15 year old when you're 25?
00:04:31.000 Come on, where are my Eric explainers in the chat?
00:04:37.000 In March 2025, she posited that people are in fake relationships to hide that people are gay because they're scared how it will impact their career.
00:04:46.000 There are people who date other people because they want to hide the fact that they're gay, that 1000% happens, these beard relationships that are set up by agencies.
00:04:55.000 And it's not because they don't think Hollywood is LGBTQ friendly.
00:04:59.000 If, if you're a part of my book club, we're going to get to the next book that we read is Hollywood Babylon, which is about the founding of Hollywood.
00:05:04.000 It was, it was always extraordinarily, um, gay, lesbian, lavender couples, gay men marrying lesbian women so that they could hide that they were gay or that they were lesbians as they began to impact culture.
00:05:17.000 It's a fascinating book that's written by Kenneth Anger.
00:05:19.000 We'll get there.
00:05:20.000 Um, but the reasons why they hide those relationships today is not because they're fearful of coming out of the closet.
00:05:26.000 This is not the 1970s, but it's because they're fearful of how it will impact their career.
00:05:31.000 Well, here's the actual evidence.
00:05:33.000 Okay, so there is an account called Esoteric Shaggy reporting the deets, as the kids say.
00:05:38.000 Quote Four data leaks from 2007 2008.
00:05:41.000 Gay dating profiles connect to Candace Owens' emails, including a University of Rhode Island one. 1.00
00:05:46.000 The Christian trad wife lied to her audience about everything. 0.95
00:05:48.000 The data leaks are from 2011 and 2016, respectively, before her rise to fame. 0.72
00:05:52.000 The accounts themselves date back nearly 20 years.
00:05:54.000 This was before Candace was known, let alone before her birthday location and emails were public.
00:05:58.000 Multiple have not been logged into for over 10 to 15 years, and they were utilized for years.
00:06:02.000 One account was logged into January 12th, 2022, while she was married and had kids.
00:06:06.000 Candamo is short for Candice Amber Owens.
00:06:09.000 The 429 in her usernames and email stands for her birthday, April 29th.
00:06:13.000 Candamo 429 is incredibly specific.
00:06:16.000 The only instance of it being used is for Candice Owens' 2008 YouTube channel, which features a video with her face, voice, and name in the credits for a URI video.
00:06:23.000 Only one Candice Amber Owens attended the University of Rhode Island from 2007 to 2010.
00:06:27.000 One dating profile is named C.429, which matches Candice's mid 2015.
00:06:33.000 C.amber Flickr page and her email C.amber429.
00:06:37.000 C.amber, C.49, and C.amber429 are specific.
00:06:41.000 Every single one of the profiles is solely oriented toward women, with multiple identifying as lesbian and even the bi ones only expressing an interest in women.
00:06:48.000 The way these websites work is if you select interested in women, only women show up.
00:06:51.000 Listing as bi wouldn't make men appear.
00:06:55.000 And then this person gets into detail about these various profiles, including one lick you in our eye.
00:07:04.000 The account details, again, these are all allegedly.
00:07:07.000 Okay. 1.00
00:07:07.000 Details is Candace's desire and passion for the female anatomy. 1.00
00:07:10.000 She considers herself an expert at this. 0.76
00:07:14.000 Another profile set, again, according to this person.
00:07:17.000 Candace states her intentions in her name, College F5.
00:07:23.000 Not great, gang.
00:07:26.000 Not great.
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00:08:30.000 And of course, one of the videos that is currently making the rounds is an older video of Candace with an unnamed female friend acting in ways that are, you know.
00:08:41.000 Hey guys, it's me.
00:08:44.000 Who is this?
00:08:46.000 I'm still perfect and pretty and skinny.
00:08:49.000 And yeah, maybe Candace got a little chubby in quarantine, but at least I'm still cute because I.
00:08:58.000 Well, I mean, listen, I'm not saying that this is true.
00:09:05.000 I don't know whether this is true.
00:09:06.000 I do know that some of the most trusted names in Candace Owens media land are, you know, saying some things.
00:09:15.000 Milo Yiannopoulos, he basically said that he had pictures of her.
00:09:23.000 And back in August of 2024, he called her. 1.00
00:09:26.000 A retarded dark skinned dyke and her husband gay. 0.97
00:09:30.000 Well, she, somebody, somebody logged on to the Candamo429 YouTube account and threatened legal action in a public response. 1.00
00:09:38.000 Quote, This channel was created for a school project.
00:09:40.000 There's no affiliation with anyone named Candace Owens whatsoever.
00:09:43.000 If you continue to harass me, I'll have to resort to legal action.
00:09:47.000 I'll be making a public response soon.
00:09:50.000 Okay, again, I don't know what we know, but did we all know no?
00:09:55.000 Or do you think you know no?
00:09:57.000 Or do you know no no?
00:09:58.000 Who knows no no's?
00:09:59.000 Who knows?
00:09:59.000 What do you feel is really the question.
00:10:02.000 Should Candace Owens sue this person or should she Subaru this person?
00:10:06.000 These are all open questions at this point.
00:10:09.000 And let's be honest, it doesn't really matter whether it's true or not because Candace Owens, were she the one on the case, would spend a year making unverified allegations and offering the prospect of future revelations and then she would make money off of it.
00:10:23.000 So, as I said right at the top, I don't know whether any of this is true.
00:10:26.000 It may all very well be false.
00:10:28.000 But has anything ever been so richly deserved?
00:10:32.000 That would be the question of the day.
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