The Ben Shapiro Show - CNN Gets Utterly Pantsed | Ep. 328

The media are over the moon about a new poll from Pew Research Center. A new poll surveyed some 40,000 people across 37 countries, and it turns out foreigners don t like President Trump as much as they liked President Obama. While 64% of such foreigners had confidence in President Obama at the end of his term, just 22% have confidence in Trump. The countries that saw the biggest drops are generally sophisticated democratic socialist countries like Sweden, Sweden, 83%, the Netherlands, 75%, and Germany, 75%. And Russia, where Trump s consistently sycophantic rhetoric toward the Russian government did not go unnoticed, dropped from 64% to 49%. Confidence in President Trump to do the right thing versus Obama dropped in every single country except for two: Israel, where President Obama was widely and correctly perceived to be anti-Israel, pro-Iran and pro-Palestinian. And Spain, where 11% trusted Obama versus 53% for Trump. Again, not a shock. 46% of foreigners dislike American ideas about democracy, which is weird since we actually promote democracy across the world. 54% complain about American ideas and customs spreading here. And yet, 55% also see Trump as a strong leader. And herein lies the truth about Trump. All of the foibles to which commentators are apt to attribute his unpopularity with foreigners are mere cover for the real issue, that Trump is not a left-winger who wants to minimize American power on the world stage while turning over our moral leadership to the UN. All of which suggest that Trump s right-wing policies are what is truly annoying people around the globe. Which is good, because they actually like an America First. Which is what is good. Ben Shapiro breaks down how the alternative is the Obama administration has been for the last eight years: the moral cowardice of the Obama Administration for the past eight years. Plus we're gonna break down Trumpcare, plus we re gonna talk about what exactly the Congressional Budget Office had to say about it yesterday, and we're going to deconstruct the culture, so jam packed show coming up for you in a jam-packed show. And that's coming up on The Ben Shapiro Show, coming up today on The Daily Show with Ben Shapiro! on The Weekly Standard and The Daily Wire. and much, much more! - Ben Shapiro - The Daily Mail -- Subscribe to Ben Shapiro's newest podcast, Ben Shapiro s new book, The New York Times

00:00:00.000 The media are over the moon about a new poll from Pew Research Center.

00:00:03.000 The new poll surveyed some 40,000 people across 37 countries, and it turns out foreigners don't like President Trump as much as they liked President Obama.

00:00:11.000 Shocker.

00:00:12.000 While 64% of such foreigners had confidence in President Obama at the end of his term, just 22% had confidence in Trump.

00:00:19.000 Favorability toward the United States dropped from 64% to 49% as well.

00:00:23.000 Confidence in President Trump to do the right thing versus Obama dropped in every single country except for two.

00:00:28.000 Israel, where President Obama was widely and correctly perceived to be anti-Israel, pro-Iran, pro-Palestinian.

00:00:35.000 49% of Israelis trusted Obama to do the right thing versus 56% for Trump.

00:00:39.000 And Russia, where Trump's consistently sycophantic rhetoric toward the Russian government did not go unnoticed.

00:00:43.000 11% trusted Obama versus 53% for Trump.

00:00:47.000 The countries that saw the biggest drops are generally sophisticated democratic socialist countries like Sweden, 83% drop.

00:00:53.000 The Netherlands, 75% drop.

00:00:55.000 And Germany, 75% drop.

00:00:57.000 The different views of Obama and Trump on the world stage reflect a basic truth.

00:01:01.000 Foreigners prefer a reticent America. 1.00

00:01:04.000 First, it is unfair to Trump to pretend that his unpopularity globally is some sort of Republican outlier.

00:01:09.000 By the time George W. Bush left office, his ratings were almost identical to Trump's in the UK, France, Germany, and Spain.

00:01:15.000 That's not a shock.

00:01:16.000 The world loves an America that pays their bills without attempting to promote any of our interests.

00:01:21.000 In fact, the Pew poll also shows that Trump is more unpopular than Vladimir Putin, a murderous thug dictator who has invaded foreign countries with regularity.

00:01:29.000 Foreigners prefer an American policy that favors Iran nuclear weapon development, 49% versus 34%.

00:01:33.000 More Muslim immigration, 62% to 32%. 0.92

00:01:34.000 Support for climate change strictures, 71% to 19%.

00:01:36.000 And lack of a border wall, 76% to 16%.

00:01:37.000 They see Trump as arrogant, 75%.

00:01:38.000 Intolerant, 65%. 0.94

00:01:38.000 And dangerous, 62%. 0.94

00:01:49.000 But 55% also see Trump as a strong leader.

00:01:52.000 Again, not a shock.

00:01:54.000 46% of foreigners dislike American ideas about democracy.

00:01:58.000 Again, it's just 43% who approve, which is weird since we actually promoted democracy across the world.

00:02:03.000 54% complain about American ideas and customs spreading here.

00:02:06.000 Again, weird since they watch all of our movies and consume all of our product.

00:02:09.000 And herein lies the truth about Trump.

00:02:12.000 All of the foibles to which commentators are apt to attribute his unpopularity with foreigners are mere cover for the real issue, that Trump is not a left-winger who wants to minimize American power on the world stage while turning over our moral leadership to the UN.

00:02:25.000 All of which suggest that Trump is right.

00:02:27.000 America First policymaking, which is a radical shift away from the multipolarity sought by the Obama administration, is what is truly annoying people around the globe.

00:02:35.000 Which is good, if the alternative is the moral cowardice of the Obama administration for the last eight years.

00:02:41.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, this is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:02:47.000 So dude, CNN is having a rough week, and we're gonna get into it, plus we're gonna break down Trumpcare, we're gonna talk about what exactly the Congressional Budget Office had to say about it yesterday, plus we're gonna deconstruct the culture, so jam-packed show coming up for you.

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00:04:24.000 We begin with what is hilarious video.

00:04:27.000 James O'Keefe, who is constantly ripped by the news media because they don't like that he goes undercover to do his journalism.

00:04:33.000 He was originally responsible for breaking ACORN, the community organizing organization responsible for pushing left-wing agenda.

00:04:42.000 James O'Keefe has now dropped a video of CNN senior producer John Bonifield.

00:04:46.000 John Bonifield, I guess he's a senior health producer or something, but he's a senior producer talking candidly about CNN's treatment of the Trump administration generally and Trump-Russia collusion allegations specifically, and it's just spectacular stuff.

00:04:58.000 Here's from James O'Keefe's Project Veritas, CNN producer John Bonifield basically acknowledging and agreeing that all of our preconceptions about CNN's bias and their agenda are exactly right.

00:05:11.000 So you believe like the Russia thing is a little crazy, right?

00:05:17.000 Even if Russia was trying to swing an election, we try to swing their elections. 0.72

00:05:22.000 We're in our CIA and doing it all the time.

00:05:25.000 We're out there trying to manipulate governments.

00:05:28.000 You win because you know the game and you play it right.

00:05:33.000 She didn't play it right.

00:05:34.000 Why is CNN constantly like, Russia this, Russia that?

00:05:38.000 Because it's ratings.

00:05:40.000 Because it's ratings?

00:05:41.000 Our ratings are incredible right now. 0.99

00:05:44.000 But honestly, you'd think the whole Russia s**t is just like bulls**t. Could be bulls**t. I mean, it's mostly bulls**t right now. 0.98

00:05:52.000 Like, we don't have any big giant proof. 0.99

00:05:58.000 I just feel like they don't really have it, but they want to keep digging.

00:06:04.000 And so I think the president is probably right to say, like, look, you are witch hunting me.

00:06:10.000 Like, you have no smoking gun.

00:06:13.000 Okay, so he's saying a bunch of things here that we already knew.

00:06:29.000 Number one, CNN is focusing on Russia for the ratings, which is obvious.

00:06:32.000 I mean, they focused on Malaysian flight MH370 for like three years and had Don Lemon talking about black holes opening up in the sky to eat flights.

00:06:39.000 Don Lemon doesn't know anything.

00:06:41.000 So it's...

00:06:42.000 It's not a shock that they've been focusing on Russia.

00:06:44.000 And this is true, right?

00:06:44.000 It doesn't matter what's going on in the news.

00:06:46.000 If you turn over to CNN, what you get is Trump-Russia.

00:06:49.000 And the reason is because CNN has been providing wish fulfillment for the far left for months now.

00:06:54.000 The wish fulfillment is that Trump is going to get caught colluding with Russia.

00:06:58.000 He'll somehow be ousted.

00:06:59.000 As Sally Cohn says, we'll have a special election.

00:07:01.000 Then Hillary Clinton will be president. 1.00

00:07:02.000 Okay, that's what CNN has been doing for literally months.

00:07:05.000 This has been their agenda.

00:07:06.000 It has raised their ratings.

00:07:07.000 When there actually is news to break, then CNN's ratings are good.

00:07:10.000 When there's no news to break, and they're just spouting about Russia still, then there's not, like tonight, I think, CNN is supposed to be running a special about Trump-Russia, the big story.

00:07:19.000 And there's nothing there.

00:07:20.000 There's nothing there.

00:07:21.000 And Bonnefield is honest enough to admit that, although he probably wouldn't have admitted it if he knew he was on tape.

00:07:26.000 When he says that Jeff Zucker, the head of CNN,

00:07:30.000 Told all the producers that when they were covering the Paris Climate Accords and Trump's pullout from them that you get back to talking Russia because he wants the ratings.

00:07:37.000 Again, this is just confirmation of what we already knew.

00:07:40.000 Bonnefield also said that if CNN had treated Obama like this, it wouldn't have gone over well at all because obviously their fans tend to like Obama, whereas they hate Trump.

00:07:49.000 And so they have been wildly dishonest in how they've covered Trump.

00:07:54.000 It's all true, okay?

00:07:55.000 Everything that Bonifield is saying is true, and all of it confirms what we already knew about CNN, which is that they are biasing their journalism in order to target President Trump, and he is right that they are on a— President Trump is right that they are on a witch hunt.

00:08:07.000 Now, that wasn't the only bad story for CNN last night.

00:08:11.000 Also fired three journalists responsible for a single-sourced anonymous story that they broke at CNN.com.

00:08:18.000 They were accusing Trump associate Anthony Scaramucci of being investigated by the Senate Intelligence Committee for contact with a Russian bank a few days before the inauguration.

00:08:27.000 CNN ended up retracting the story and firing the three journalists responsible for the story.

00:08:31.000 Naturally, as my friend John Nolte points out,

00:08:34.000 CNN also added that it's possible, quote, the facts of the story weren't necessarily wrong.

00:08:38.000 So this is the Dan Rather approach.

00:08:39.000 We're going to retract the story.

00:08:41.000 We're going to fire the guy responsible.

00:08:42.000 But it's possible that the facts were still correct.

00:08:45.000 OK, again, just evidence of CNN's bias.

00:08:47.000 So this, of course, sets off President Trump.

00:08:49.000 And President Trump promptly tweets, quote, fake fake news.

00:08:53.000 CNN is looking at big management changes now that they got caught falsely pushing their phony Russian stories.

00:08:58.000 Ratings way down.

00:08:59.000 Well, the first half is true.

00:09:01.000 The second half is not.

00:09:01.000 Their ratings are not way down.

00:09:02.000 Their ratings are actually way up because of all the conspiratorial bullcrap.

00:09:06.000 It would be better if their ratings were down because of all the conspiratorial bullcrap, but they aren't.

00:09:09.000 And then he says, wow, CNN had to retract big story on Russia with three employees forced to resign.

00:09:15.000 What about all the other phony stories they do?

00:09:17.000 Fake news.

00:09:18.000 Again, totally fair.

00:09:19.000 And then he said, you know, fake news, this fake news, that fake news.

00:09:22.000 What about the Washington Post and New York Times and ABC and NBC and CBS?

00:09:25.000 Right.

00:09:26.000 So all of this, there is truth to this.

00:09:29.000 Obviously, CNN has biases.

00:09:31.000 They refuse to acknowledge their biases.

00:09:33.000 It's one of the more annoying things about CNN.

00:09:34.000 If they just said, listen, we're a left wing outlet like MSNBC, like no one cares that MSNBC covers Russia incessantly because MSNBC is openly to the left.

00:09:42.000 I mean, they're leaning forward, right?

00:09:44.000 CNN pretends it's objective, which is why CNN is the easiest whipping boy in the media business.

00:09:48.000 And I will say that CNN did more than, for example, the Trump administration has done when people in the administration have lied.

00:09:55.000 They actually fired people forthwith.

00:09:56.000 When this story came out, they fired three reporters.

00:09:58.000 Now, does this mean that they're suddenly great at their jobs?

00:10:01.000 No, but that's at least a form of accountability.

00:10:04.000 Naturally, Fox News jumped on this as well, jumped on all of this.

00:10:07.000 Tucker Carlson ripped CNN to their propaganda organization.

00:10:11.000 Again, this is mostly right.

00:10:13.000 It's been seven months, though, since Trump won the presidential election.

00:10:16.000 Since then, precisely no evidence has emerged to support the claim that Trump somehow colluded with the Russian government in order to win the race.

00:10:24.000 But you'd never know that from watching that channel, which has become home for conspiracists on the Russia question worldwide.

00:10:31.000 Last February, to name yet another example, CNN produced a story accusing Trump associates of repeated contacts with Russian intelligence.

00:10:40.000 That report turned out to be almost identical to a report by the New York Times that Jim Comey called out specifically for being grossly inaccurate.

00:10:48.000 We could go on and on and on.

00:10:50.000 Overall, 93% of CNN's coverage of the Trump administration has been negative.

00:10:55.000 Really?

00:11:10.000 Now, again, I think that Sean calling for Zucker to be fired over the coverage of CNN is a mistake for Sean.

00:11:16.000 I mean, I defended Sean over the Seth Rich stuff, not because I thought he was right on it, but because I don't like these kind of astroturfed boycotts where people end up losing their jobs because they don't like the way that somebody is covering the news.

00:11:28.000 And here's Sean calling for Jeff Zucker to be fired over his coverage of the news.

00:11:32.000 Again, I just—the hypocrisy is a little much for me.

00:11:37.000 Is all this criticism of CNN fair?

00:11:38.000 Absolutely it's fair, but I do want to discuss whether the term fake news is useful or not anymore, because I'm not sure that it is useful.

00:11:45.000 So when fake news was originally coined, the term fake news was originally coined, what it meant was a story that was outright false.

00:11:51.000 So for example, that piece that CNN retracted, that was actual fake news, right?

00:11:56.000 That was a piece of fake news.

00:11:57.000 CNN's Russia collusion stuff, when they actually try to aver that there is collusion or evidence thereof, that is fake news.

00:12:03.000 It is not fake news when they report a specific story

00:12:06.000 About a Trump associate who had a contact with Russians and then it's verified, right?

00:12:10.000 It's not a fake story when CNN reports about what Trump said to Sergey Kislyak in the Oval Office, right?

00:12:15.000 That is not fake news.

00:12:17.000 So we have to distinguish two types of news that people don't like.

00:12:20.000 One type of news is news that is just the facts are wrong, right?

00:12:23.000 That's actual fake news.

00:12:24.000 We don't like those.

00:12:25.000 Those are real fake news.

00:12:26.000 And then there are stories where we don't like the angle the news is taking.

00:12:29.000 We don't like the bias that's being infused into the news.

00:12:32.000 And this is where I find trouble because, you know, President Trump, he's out there saying all these networks are quote-unquote fake news, fake news.

00:12:38.000 If you conflate these two categories, you make it so that it is impossible to have a common basis of fact for any sort of political conversation.

00:12:44.000 So when he says CNN is fake news,

00:12:47.000 I don't think that's right.

00:12:48.000 I don't.

00:12:48.000 I think that CNN is a wildly left news outlet that biases their coverage in tremendous ways.

00:12:54.000 I don't think that's quote-unquote fake news.

00:12:56.000 You can say it's fake objective news.

00:12:58.000 That's true.

00:12:59.000 You can say it's non-objective news.

00:13:00.000 That's true.

00:13:00.000 But when you just say it's fake news, like everything you see on CNN is false,

00:13:04.000 That's not true.

00:13:05.000 And this is coming from a guy who went on CNN in 2014 and said, if Hamas could design a propaganda network, it would look a lot like CNN.

00:13:11.000 This is in the middle of the Gaza War.

00:13:12.000 So it's not like I have any great love and honor for CNN.

00:13:16.000 I mean, for God's sake, I basically destroyed one of their main hosts on their show, right?

00:13:21.000 I mean, I took Piers Morgan and destroyed him on CNN.

00:13:24.000 I've ripped CNN on CNN multiple times.

00:13:26.000 So this is not about defending CNN.

00:13:28.000 This is about, as the American public,

00:13:30.000 How do we know what information we can trust and what information we can't?

00:13:33.000 We sort of have the Vizzini problem.

00:13:35.000 You remember from Princess Bride, where Vizzini gets into a battle of wits with Wesley, and Vizzini has the... Wesley takes iocane powder and supposedly he puts it in one of the two cups, and then Vizzini, who's the cleverest man alive, according to Vizzini, has to try and outwit him.

00:13:51.000 And so he does the whole, I'm not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you!

00:13:55.000 But you must have known I was not a great fool, and you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me! 0.61

00:14:01.000 Right? 0.67

00:14:02.000 You remember that whole routine?

00:14:03.000 What happens when President Trump routinely says things that are not true, or Sean Hannity says things about Seth Rich that are unverified?

00:14:10.000 I mean, last night, Sean Hannity was still on Twitter, saying he's still investigating the Seth Rich thing, which is, you know,

00:14:17.000 Come on.

00:14:17.000 I mean, really, like, enough already.

00:14:18.000 Like, you have no new evidence.

00:14:19.000 You talk about Trump collusion.

00:14:21.000 Trump-Russia collusion has no evidence.

00:14:22.000 You have no evidence on the Seth Rich stuff, but you're still pursuing it, and then claiming conspiracy theories on the other side.

00:14:28.000 This is just about a little bit of intellectual honesty, folks.

00:14:30.000 If you can't trust Trump, and you can't trust Fox, and you can't trust CNN, then who can you trust?

00:14:35.000 And I'm not suggesting that you can trust me, by the way, to be unbiased, because I'm pretty open about my biases.

00:14:39.000 I'm conservative, right?

00:14:41.000 I'm conservative.

00:14:41.000 That means that my coverage of the news is going to be infused with a certain level of conservative bias.

00:14:47.000 For sure.

00:14:47.000 But it is a mistake to label every single mainstream media outlet fake news, as President Trump does, because it actually blows back on Trump.

00:14:53.000 The next time CNN reports something that is true, and Trump calls it fake news, Trump looks like a liar. 0.95

00:14:59.000 He's right.

00:15:00.000 He is right that all of these outlets are biased against him.

00:15:02.000 He is right that they attack him in a way they never would have attacked President Obama.

00:15:05.000 And I'm glad that President Trump goes up against the media all the time.

00:15:08.000 In my book, Bullies, I said this is exactly what politicians should do.

00:15:11.000 But the point in Bullies was that you should go after these outlets when they lie.

00:15:15.000 You shouldn't just label the entire outlet completely uncredible and suggest that everything that they report is false because that's not actually true.

00:15:22.000 Like, if you're going to defeat lies, you have to do it with truth.

00:15:25.000 And if you're going to defeat bias, you have to do it by calling out the bias. 0.67

00:15:28.000 You can't defeat bias by just saying that everything that somebody says that is biased is complete fake news and all lies and garbage. 0.61

00:15:35.000 Right now what we have is Trump attacks combined with the media's drooling preoccupation with getting Trump. 0.70

00:15:40.000 It ends up polarizing the narrative.

00:15:42.000 Right now, I'm telling because this is the world I live in, right now people on the right will not believe a word that comes from CNN or the New York Times or the Washington Post, even though all of their favorite websites, you know, Breitbart, I used to work there, right?

00:15:54.000 I was the editor at large there for four years.

00:15:56.000 I was deeply involved in editorial for two of those four years.

00:15:58.000 Breitbart, which is a very pro-Trump website, obviously, they rip half their news from the mainstream media at least, okay?

00:16:04.000 The notion that Breitbart is doing original reporting is not true.

00:16:09.000 I mean, they do some original reporting, but the bulk of what they cover is a Breitbart angle on a news story that has been previously reported by CNN or the New York Times.

00:16:17.000 The same thing is true in talk radio.

00:16:19.000 And everybody in talk radio will acknowledge this, right?

00:16:21.000 I mean, the fact is that when you listen to Rush, when you listen to Sean,

00:16:24.000 Half of Sean's coverage on his radio show is him reading an AP story and then deconstructing the AP story trying to get to the fact.

00:16:31.000 So pretending that all of the news is fake is just not true.

00:16:34.000 And what you end up with is this bizarre situation where people on the right will only trust Fox News and people on the left will only trust CNN. 0.99

00:16:41.000 And if they hear that something happened on Fox News, they go, it's complete crap. 0.98

00:16:44.000 Benghazi's a perfect example. 0.98

00:16:46.000 Fox News was leading the charge in terms of uncovering material about Benghazi, and the left just said, oh, it's Fox News, who cares?

00:16:53.000 And then the right does the same thing with CNN.

00:16:55.000 Every time there's a story bad for Trump, they say, oh, it's just CNN, who cares?

00:16:58.000 I want to talk about what we should do to defeat all of this, how you can watch the news and get more out of it.

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00:18:45.000 Okay, so here's how I want to boil down all of this media debate, and again,

00:18:49.000 CNN is what they are.

00:18:50.000 They're a wildly biased anti-right network masquerading as an objective news source, sometimes running stories without proper substantiation that they then have to back off of.

00:18:59.000 But to pretend that every piece of CNN coverage is a lie is not true, just as for the left to pretend during the Obama years that everything coming out of Fox News was not true.

00:19:08.000 Here are some basic truths.

00:19:09.000 There are only three of them, so you can handle this.

00:19:11.000 We're all capable of handling this, okay?

00:19:13.000 All journalists are biased.

00:19:15.000 All of them, even if they won't admit it.

00:19:17.000 There are some who try harder to keep their own biases out of the news.

00:19:21.000 You know, I think that there are people who are widely hated on the right and widely hated on the left.

00:19:26.000 I think Brett Baier does a good job of trying to keep his biases out of the news.

00:19:29.000 I think on the left, I mean, Jake Tapper's clearly the left.

00:19:31.000 I think Tapper does a better job than most of trying to keep his biases out of the news, although Jake obviously has his own biases.

00:19:38.000 But all journalists are biased, okay?

00:19:40.000 And anyone who pretends not is lying to you.

00:19:42.000 Second, either the facts of a story are factual or they are not.

00:19:46.000 Okay, there's two parts to every story.

00:19:48.000 There's the facts and there's the opinion.

00:19:50.000 And you have to become kind of sophisticated in how you look at the news.

00:19:52.000 This is why you listen to or watch shows like this, so that we can break down a story and explain to you what is opinion from what is fact, what is actually being said in the news story, and what is the news media getting out ahead of themselves, right?

00:20:04.000 The facts of a story are either factual, however, or they are not.

00:20:07.000 The bias of a journalist may impact how the facts are presented, but it doesn't automatically discredit the facts that are presented.

00:20:14.000 So if CNN covers the Trump-Russia stuff, and then draws a conclusion that there's collusion, and the conclusion is wrong, that doesn't discredit the underlying facts upon which they are reporting.

00:20:23.000 Maybe their conclusion is wrong because they're biased.

00:20:25.000 Maybe the way they're reporting the story is wrong because they're biased.

00:20:28.000 But that doesn't necessarily mean that the underlying facts are wrong.

00:20:30.000 The same is true on the right.

00:20:32.000 The left would suggest that the rights coverage of the IRS scandal was all lies.

00:20:36.000 It was all fake news.

00:20:37.000 But that did not discredit any of the underlying factual claims.

00:20:41.000 That Lois Lerner and the IRS were obviously targeting conservative 501c3s in an attempt to prevent them from being able to raise money.

00:20:48.000 And that they were doing so because Democrats have been calling for years for them to do exactly that.

00:20:52.000 That was the underlying news.

00:20:53.000 Now the left may not have liked the conclusion the right was drawing, which is that Obama basically ordered it.

00:20:57.000 But that didn't discredit the underlying news.

00:20:59.000 So, it is your job as a news consumer to try and distinguish the fact from the opinion in any given story without just doing this routine where you say, okay, CNN is all fake news, or Fox News is all fake news, and everybody should be fired because I disagree with them.

00:21:13.000 Again.

00:21:14.000 Do I think CNN is egregious?

00:21:16.000 Yes, I think they're egregious in their coverage of Trump.

00:21:18.000 I think they are just egregious in their coverage of Trump.

00:21:21.000 And I think that producer demonstrates how egregious they are in their coverage of Trump.

00:21:26.000 But that does not actually change the underlying facts.

00:21:29.000 And to pretend that CNN doesn't feel the heat when they do something wrong is just silly.

00:21:31.000 I mean, they just fired three reporters.

00:21:33.000 We make a living over at Daily Wire bashing CNN when they get things wrong.

00:21:37.000 To pretend that they are not subject to scrutiny is just dishonest.

00:21:41.000 So, again, this is not a defense of CNN's activity anywhere along the line here.

00:21:46.000 But I'm suggesting to you that you are going to be blindsided by the news if you do what so many on the right are doing and say, I only trust

00:21:54.000 The truth is, neither is Fox News in many cases.

00:22:11.000 Between good news coverage and bad news coverage, instead of doing this ridiculous partisan knee-jerk crap where people at CNN go, people on the left go, oh, Fox News can't be trusted, everything they say is a lie, and people, faux news, right, they did this for eight years, I was there, and people on the right going, oh, it's from the New York Times? 0.93

00:22:26.000 How dare you quote the New York Times!

00:22:29.000 I promise you, Gateway Pundit is quoting that same New York Times story, whether it's an attempt to debunk the New York Times story or an attempt to grant credibility to the New York Times story, because most reporting is done by the mainstream media outlets that dedicate hundreds of millions of dollars every year to sending reporters to the field.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 27, 2017

CNN Gets Utterly Pantsed | Ep. 328

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