The Ben Shapiro Show - February 01, 2021


CNN Wants Fox News Destroyed | Ep. 1185


Episode Stats

Length

58 minutes

Words per Minute

216.30595

Word Count

12,726

Sentence Count

846

Misogynist Sentences

28

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary

On this episode of The Ben Shapiro Show, Ben talks about how the left is trying to delegitimize conservative media outlets and take control of the internet through de-platforming, censorship, and other means. He also talks about why it s so important to protect your digital privacy and why you should be using a VPN to keep your data safe from prying eyes and hackers. Ben Shapiro is a conservative commentator and host of the conservative podcast "The Weekly Standard" and is a regular contributor to CNN and other major news outlets. He is also a frequent contributor to The Daily Wire and has been featured on Fox News and other media outlets, including the New York Times, CNN, NPR, CBS, NPR and NPR. His new book, "America's Next Door" is out now and it's available for pre-order on Amazon Prime and Vimeo worldwide. Click here to buy a copy of the book for just $99.99! If you don't already own a Kindle Fire, you can get a free eReader device with a built-in eReader app, too! Kindle $9.99, or use the Kindle $99, iBook $49, or an Audible membership is also available for 99.99 for 49.99. There is no Audible 4999, and Audible is 4949 for 49494949, 49994949.99 is a limited edition edition edition of the Kindle Fire Fire HDX, $4999, $99 and 4999 499999, plus shipping starts at $99 a month.99 a year.00.00, shipping starts starting in September 2020. . The Kindle Fire and iBook is also sells for 4999.00 starting at $49.00 and includes an additional two months, shipping starting in July 2020. Free shipping starts in September 2019, shipping begins in October 2020, shipping will be available in July, shipping in September, shipping after July 2020, and shipping starts will be $99 after July 2019, free shipping starts next year, shipping two months after July, and two years, shipping thereafter, starting in October, will be free, shipping start, shipping on a year and shipping will begin, free, starting two years after that starts, two months will get a maximum of 4999 europalm and two months of shipping, shipping, and a maximum, free of course, will get you a carte-ship, and three months of free shipping, two years of shipping and shipping,


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00:00:00.000 CNN openly calls for a social crackdown on Fox News.
00:00:03.000 Team Biden gets more and more radical.
00:00:05.000 And Trump's impeachment team falls apart.
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00:01:34.000 Okay, so we are watching as the left basically uses its newfound power in order to call for crackdowns on everybody And they're telling you that it's not important, you know, because everybody that they disagree with, they'll still have outlets.
00:01:48.000 It's fine.
00:01:48.000 They'll still have places that they can go.
00:01:50.000 And then the next step is once they have essentially forced everybody into an ideological silo, then they blow up the silo.
00:01:56.000 And this is what we saw with Parler from the left.
00:01:59.000 You know, you don't like how Twitter handles its business?
00:02:00.000 Well, just go have your own social media platform.
00:02:02.000 So a bunch of conservatives said, all right, sounds good, bunch of libertarians, and they formed Parler.
00:02:07.000 And then the next move was, well, you know, they're a little too open over there.
00:02:10.000 What if you just de-platform them?
00:02:12.000 And we see this routinely throughout the media.
00:02:14.000 The first move is, you know, you conservatives, why can't you make it on the left wing?
00:02:18.000 Why can't you just join up with left-wing outlets?
00:02:21.000 And then conservatives try and they say, no, no, you can't come in here because, see, you're conservative.
00:02:25.000 That means you're bad.
00:02:26.000 They say, OK, you know what?
00:02:27.000 We're going to go form our own outlets and we're going to use the normal methods of distribution in order to achieve a market share.
00:02:35.000 And then the same people who ousted them, who threw them outside of the house, they say, OK, well, now you guys are so bad that you really shouldn't have access to the market at all.
00:02:43.000 You can see this happening in real time.
00:02:46.000 And it's been happening for a while, but really it's coming to a head right now because every crisis is an opportunity for the left.
00:02:51.000 I said the day that January 6th took place, the day that the violation of the Capitol took place, I said that that act of evil was going to have tremendous repercussions.
00:02:59.000 It was going to be used by the hard left as an excuse to basically censor everybody they didn't like.
00:03:04.000 And they weren't going to restrict that to people who actually engaged in criminal activity.
00:03:08.000 They weren't even going to restrict that to arguments that may have fostered the criminal activity.
00:03:12.000 Instead, they were going to use that to go after everybody they don't like.
00:03:15.000 Because let's face it, folks in the media purvey things that are not true a lot.
00:03:19.000 They do it a lot.
00:03:20.000 It depends on the narrative.
00:03:22.000 How many members of the CNN staff spent months claiming that Jacob Blake was an unarmed black man who'd been shot by white police officers for no reason?
00:03:31.000 Pretty much all of them.
00:03:32.000 How many members of the CNN staff, how many of their big anchors claimed that Andrew Cuomo was the greatest governor in all the land for months at a time while Rhonda Sanderson in Florida was a scourge Virtually all of them.
00:03:45.000 They propel whatever narrative they want to propel at any given time, and they will fib to do it, or they'll twist the facts to do it, or ignore countervailing facts in order to do that.
00:03:53.000 But the thing is that if those countervailing facts are brought to light by anybody else, or if there's a narrative that they see from the other side that they don't like very much, then that other side must be silenced.
00:04:01.000 So, Brian Stelter.
00:04:03.000 Who is a sort of bellwether for the woke left infusing itself into mainstream media.
00:04:08.000 Stelter didn't used to be quite as radical as he has become.
00:04:11.000 I was on his show just a few years ago and he said, you know, you have your outlet, Daily Wire, why don't people like you, why don't conservatives try to go into mainstream media?
00:04:19.000 And I literally said to him, anybody at CNN going to try and hire me?
00:04:22.000 You think, Brian?
00:04:23.000 And the answer, of course, was no.
00:04:24.000 Well, now, Brian Stelter has gotten to the point where he is openly calling for a crackdown on Fox News.
00:04:30.000 He's openly calling for a crackdown on people who disagree or on people he believes are purveying false information.
00:04:35.000 Now, here is the thing.
00:04:36.000 You've seen a shift in the language being used by folks when it comes to what sort of information should be given a platform and which sort of information should receive distribution.
00:04:44.000 They shifted.
00:04:45.000 It's a subtle linguistic shift.
00:04:46.000 There are a couple of major subtle linguistic shifts that are happening right now as we speak, and we're going to elucidate them on today's show.
00:04:52.000 One is the shift from misinformation Okay, so it was misinformation and disinformation.
00:04:57.000 So disinformation campaigns really were a, the idea was those were a foreign weapon.
00:05:03.000 It was foreign propaganda.
00:05:04.000 So a disinformation campaign was the Soviets putting out false information that they hoped would be eaten up by the left in the United States and then propagated to a wider audience.
00:05:12.000 That was disinformation, right?
00:05:14.000 Disinformation means actual lies, things that are not true.
00:05:16.000 Then there's quote-unquote misinformation.
00:05:19.000 Misinformation, which is the term that is now being used in the media all the time, is a term that means stuff I don't like.
00:05:25.000 Maybe some of it is not true.
00:05:26.000 Maybe some of it is true, but I just don't like the narrative.
00:05:29.000 So the shift from disinformation, which is the idea that it is being propagated by a foreign power in order to push a particular agenda that is anti-American in scope.
00:05:36.000 The shift from disinformation, deliberate attempts to falsify, to misinformation, meaning information that I disagree with, or information that I think is wrong.
00:05:47.000 That shift is pretty subtle, but it's being used.
00:05:50.000 at an extraordinarily rapid clip is being adopted by members of the mainstream media as an excuse to shut down competitors.
00:05:57.000 And not only that, if you have ever uttered something that they say was not true, then the idea is that you must be shut down as a human being.
00:06:04.000 So it doesn't matter that again, CNN has propagated absolute untruths and CNN propagated lies about Covington Catholic.
00:06:11.000 CNN propagated lies about Black Lives Matter.
00:06:14.000 CNN propagated lies about Trump.
00:06:16.000 CNN propagated lies about Bush.
00:06:18.000 CNN propagates lies sometimes.
00:06:20.000 Does that mean that CNN should be de-platformed?
00:06:21.000 That they should lose their ability to distribute information?
00:06:23.000 Of course not.
00:06:24.000 But that is where Brian Stelter is going to go.
00:06:26.000 So now, Brian Stelter says, you know what?
00:06:28.000 We should reduce the reach of people that I disagree with, basically.
00:06:32.000 The people who are on the other side of the aisle.
00:06:33.000 Because it's not as though they have a consistent standard of truth.
00:06:36.000 It's not like, okay, here are the people who lie all the time, and then here are the people who tell the truth all the time.
00:06:40.000 It is just that they believe that people who are of their opinion are pure as the driven snow, and people who are not of their opinion, if you can find any hook upon which to hang their banning, you just go for it.
00:06:51.000 So here is Brian Stelter on Reliable Sources over the weekend.
00:06:54.000 Big tech platforms say they are removing lies about vaccines and stamping out Stop the Steal BS and QAnon cult content.
00:07:02.000 Now, do these private companies have too much power?
00:07:04.000 Sure.
00:07:04.000 Many people would say yes, of course they do.
00:07:07.000 But reducing a liar's reach is not the same as censoring freedom of speech.
00:07:12.000 Freedom of speech is different than freedom of reach.
00:07:15.000 And algorithmic reach is part of the problem.
00:07:18.000 Okay, so he then extended that over to Fox News.
00:07:20.000 He basically suggested that Fox News itself should have its freedom of reach Withdrawn.
00:07:27.000 And when he says that it is not a First Amendment violation to restrict people's reach, what he's really talking about here are places like Daily Wire or places like The Federalist or anything that is right of center on Facebook, right?
00:07:39.000 When he says that, what he means, that freedom of reach is not the same as freedom of speech, he's basically saying that what we need is for unofficial social media censors to stop the distribution of information.
00:07:49.000 And he's saying that's not the government.
00:07:50.000 He's right.
00:07:51.000 It's not the government, but it is just as damaging as the government.
00:07:54.000 When the town square is Facebook, right?
00:07:56.000 Facebook is not like the comment section over at Daily Wire, because Daily Wire is in fact a publication, right?
00:08:01.000 We have a particular point of view.
00:08:03.000 It is open and obvious what our point of view is.
00:08:05.000 Facebook is much more like a town square.
00:08:07.000 It was designed to be a town square.
00:08:09.000 When they decide that they are going to censor particular points of view, and they are going to do so basically with the permission of the government, because the government has given them these carve-outs under Section 230, then they are violating their core tenet.
00:08:21.000 Okay, the freedom of speech does not cease to apply as a principle in places where it's supposed to be the chief functioning principle.
00:08:29.000 So, members of the left are playing this little game here.
00:08:31.000 And again, I'm libertarian on a lot of this stuff.
00:08:33.000 I think that private companies should have an awful lot of freedom to do what it is that they want.
00:08:38.000 I also think that rival public companies should also be able to—private companies should also be able to do what they want.
00:08:42.000 I think that Parler should exist and Twitter should exist.
00:08:44.000 I don't think that people should be deplatforming them.
00:08:46.000 When you have neutral service providers that are denying service to one side or the other based purely on politics, which is what this is, Then things are getting really, really ugly, really, really fast.
00:08:56.000 And the only answer is going to be either a rewriting of Section 230 or a reinterpretation of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which we'll get to in just a second.
00:09:06.000 But it's the principle that's amazing here.
00:09:07.000 So you have reliable sources, right?
00:09:08.000 There's supposed to be a free speech program saying, freedom of speech is really important, but what we would love is for private companies to restrict that freedom of speech.
00:09:15.000 Private companies need to stop people from seeing information that I don't like.
00:09:19.000 And so you've had members of the CNN crews suggest that, for example, Comcast should simply get rid of the ability to distribute Fox News.
00:09:27.000 You've had anchors on CNN claim the same thing.
00:09:30.000 I've never seen anything from Fox News along these lines about CNN or MSNBC, by the way.
00:09:34.000 For all the talk about how Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson, look at these, look at these opinion hosts with their strong viewpoints.
00:09:42.000 Not one of them, so far as I'm aware, has ever called on Comcast to de-platform CNN or MSNBC.
00:09:47.000 But CNN and MSNBC are calling for this sort of stuff and they're calling for it pretty regularly.
00:09:51.000 Joe Scarborough called for it last week on MSNBC, so did Mika Brzezinski.
00:09:55.000 You're seeing Stelter call for it now.
00:09:56.000 When they say that freedom of reach is not the same as freedom of speech, that's sort of like the argument that freedom of religion should basically be restricted to inside your house.
00:10:04.000 You should only be free to practice your religion inside your house.
00:10:06.000 If you go outside your house and you're acting as you would in the business world and you're making decisions in your business based on your religious precepts, well, now that's not freedom of religion anymore because, after all, you're acting in the public.
00:10:17.000 Okay, well, if you restrict somebody's freedom of reach to essentially zero, then of what value is their freedom of speech at that point?
00:10:26.000 Then you've got a real problem on your hands.
00:10:28.000 But again, the goal here is not an exchange of decent ideas or even an Overton window that is better policed.
00:10:35.000 The idea is that people I disagree with should be silenced.
00:10:37.000 So Oliver Darcy, a nice guy, but Oliver Darcy, he was on CNN and he says, you know, we have to stop comparing Fox and MSNBC.
00:10:44.000 We have to stop comparing that because Fox should basically be deplatformed while MSNBC should not.
00:10:48.000 Here's Oliver Darcy on CNN making claims about rival networks.
00:10:52.000 It's an amazing thing.
00:10:55.000 To equate what MSNBC does or some of these other outlets do with what Fox does is nonsensical.
00:11:01.000 There are outlets that have opinion hosts, but they're playing in the real world, in the world of facts and reality.
00:11:07.000 And Fox is spinning its own reality.
00:11:09.000 And to suggest that there's an equivalence between the two, I think is not accurate and something we should really be careful to avoid.
00:11:18.000 Oh really?
00:11:18.000 It's not accurate?
00:11:19.000 I'm old enough to remember when, during the Michael Brown protests, An entire panel of people on CNN held up signs that said, hands up, don't shoot.
00:11:28.000 And commentators like Sally Cohen were actually doing the hands up, don't shoot thing, which is a total fraudulent lie.
00:11:32.000 It was a fabrication top to bottom.
00:11:35.000 And he's saying that on CNN, the network of Covington Catholic, right?
00:11:38.000 They had to pay a settlement to Nick Sandman for slandering him.
00:11:42.000 They're not the same.
00:11:44.000 No, they are the same.
00:11:45.000 They're exactly the same.
00:11:46.000 It's just that you like the views on MSNBC and CNN, and you don't like the views on Fox News.
00:11:50.000 And so that has to be silenced.
00:11:52.000 Hey, over at the Washington Post, they're doing the same thing.
00:11:54.000 So Margaret Sullivan is the media columnist over at the Washington Post.
00:11:57.000 She has a piece today basically saying that everybody that she doesn't like should be silenced and that's not cancel culture.
00:12:03.000 So the left likes to play this game where they like to cancel people and then claim the cancel culture does not exist, which always makes it kind of fun and karmic when they themselves are canceled, which almost inevitably happens within about six months of saying cancel culture doesn't exist.
00:12:16.000 You'll see there's this hilarious pattern in which folks on the left say, cancel culture is not real.
00:12:20.000 And then five months later, somebody unearthed an old tweet that was bad, and suddenly they're canceled by the same left that they were cheering on a moment ago.
00:12:26.000 Because the mob loves you until the mob doesn't love you anymore.
00:12:29.000 So Margaret Sullivan has this piece over at the Washington Post.
00:12:32.000 And her idea is the same as Stelter's, which is, we should just withdraw the means of distribution from people I don't like.
00:12:38.000 And that's going to have no consequences whatsoever for the American body politic other than good.
00:12:43.000 So here's what she writes.
00:12:45.000 According to Washington examiners, Eddie Scarry, nothing less than a social justice mob, descended on Politico after it gave a guest editing slot to right-wing flamethrower Ben Shapiro.
00:12:53.000 First of all, cool nickname.
00:12:55.000 Really, thank you for that.
00:12:56.000 Also, have you listened to five minutes of this show?
00:13:01.000 Of course not.
00:13:01.000 Of course not.
00:13:02.000 These people do this all the time.
00:13:04.000 Rush Limbaugh's a racist.
00:13:05.000 They don't listen to five seconds of Rush Limbaugh.
00:13:07.000 They've never even heard anything Rush Limbaugh's ever said.
00:13:09.000 By the way, that was actually the first conversation I ever had with Elizabeth Warren, long before she was a senator.
00:13:13.000 She was a professor at Harvard Law School, and I met her at the top of the W Hotel when I was being recruited for Harvard Law, and she and I kind of...
00:13:21.000 Met and she said, oh yeah, you're the one who wrote that book, because I'd written a book already about bias on college campuses.
00:13:27.000 And she started talking about Rush Limbaugh and I said, have you ever listened to Rush Limbaugh?
00:13:30.000 And she was like, no.
00:13:31.000 I said, so why are you talking about Rush Limbaugh?
00:13:33.000 But that's the perspective here.
00:13:35.000 I'm a right-wing flamethrower because Margaret Sullivan, who I'm sure has never listened to anything I've ever said, calls me a right-wing flamethrower.
00:13:40.000 And the goal of calling me a right-wing flamethrower, of course, is the idea that I should be deplatformed.
00:13:43.000 So she says, scary mocked those, including many of Politico's employees, who thought Shapiro never should have been in charge of the site's popular playbook newsletter, even for a day.
00:13:52.000 Such objections are an effort to silence conservative voices, Scaria claims in another piece.
00:13:56.000 liberal journalists quote, believe one side of the political spectrum to be legitimate, and the other should be given as few opportunities to have their opinions heard as possible.
00:14:04.000 In other words, it's all part of a cancel culture, the catchphrase for how the masses supposedly gang up to silence provocative voices.
00:14:09.000 I happen to think that the Politico staffers were right to oppose their news organization, granting it's imprimatur to someone with Shapiro's history of performative bigotry.
00:14:18.000 Ah, yes.
00:14:18.000 That is my history.
00:14:19.000 Performative bigotry.
00:14:21.000 It doesn't matter that I've given full speeches ripping the alt-right.
00:14:24.000 It does not matter that I oppose the so-called Muslim... None of that matters, right?
00:14:27.000 Because she doesn't know any of that.
00:14:28.000 Doesn't care.
00:14:29.000 She doesn't care.
00:14:31.000 By the way, breaking news to Margaret Sullivan.
00:14:33.000 She writes for the Washington Post.
00:14:35.000 She doesn't like that outlets granted their imprimatur to me.
00:14:40.000 In 2016, I wrote an op-ed for the Washington Post, Margaret.
00:14:41.000 So you might want to talk with your editors over there.
00:14:44.000 In any case, she says, And in defense of the idea that I should be banned, she cites a tweet from 2010.
00:14:53.000 It is now 2021.
00:14:55.000 Okay, just checking your calendar.
00:14:58.000 One tweet from 11 years ago that I've explained 1,000 times about the Israeli-Arab conflict.
00:15:02.000 She cites that.
00:15:04.000 Literally, I have a piece on the website of Daily Wire, something no journalist I'm aware of or opinion journalist I'm aware of has ever done.
00:15:09.000 I've posted every single bad thing I think I have ever said and then either explained it Or apologized for it, like, in writing.
00:15:16.000 Okay, so she cites that.
00:15:17.000 This is always their go-to, is they find a tweet from 2010.
00:15:22.000 Right?
00:15:23.000 Like, that's nuts, okay?
00:15:25.000 And then another tweet in 2019.
00:15:28.000 It wasn't even a tweet.
00:15:30.000 It was a statement on this show in which I was talking about Beto O'Rourke's view that he would be able to essentially get rid of religion in public life.
00:15:39.000 Beto O'Rourke said that he wanted to remove all non-profit statuses from any church or synagogue.
00:15:44.000 That did not go along with his woke social justice nonsense.
00:15:47.000 And I made an argument that Beto O'Rourke was going to go after religious schools, remove their non-profit status, go after churches, remove their non-profit status, and then the left's next move would be to declare that if you did not educate your child in the ways they wanted to educate your child, they would come to your front door.
00:15:59.000 And I said, anybody who tries to take my kid away from me on the basis of teaching my kid values that I don't want to talk to my kids, I will meet them at the door at the gun.
00:16:06.000 Okay, I don't disagree with that sentiment.
00:16:07.000 I fully agree with me.
00:16:08.000 I was right.
00:16:09.000 Okay, so she cites that as reason why I should not write for Politico.
00:16:12.000 She says, in America, all these people get to talk.
00:16:15.000 Because of the First Amendment, the government won't shut them down.
00:16:18.000 That doesn't mean they're immune to other forms of accountability, though.
00:16:20.000 And here's where we get into the fun part for folks on the left.
00:16:23.000 They are the accountability.
00:16:24.000 They grab control of the institutions, then they bar you from the institutions, then when you build alternative institutions, they air raid them.
00:16:32.000 That is the pattern that we are seeing over and over in American society.
00:16:36.000 And then, if you complain about it, then you're whining.
00:16:38.000 Then you are part of a victimhood culture.
00:16:41.000 Hilariously enough, there was a piece over at Axios about this by Jim Vandahay the other day, where he cited me, he cited Tucker Carlson, about the new right-wing talking point, that the right is under assault from the institutional centers of American culture.
00:16:53.000 The right wing had centralized around this talking point.
00:16:56.000 And I emailed, I emailed the folks at Axios, I was like, Jim VandeHei, the guy who wrote this piece, three weeks ago, three weeks ago, you wrote a piece in which you said, blue America is a sentence in every institutional area of America, and it was going to mean a rethinking of thought and speech in the United States.
00:17:11.000 And then you wonder why we're a little paranoid.
00:17:13.000 Just because we're paranoid does not mean you're not out to get us.
00:17:16.000 Because you guys are.
00:17:17.000 And you're saying it every day.
00:17:19.000 The sort of gaslighting where it's like, we're gonna destroy your career.
00:17:21.000 We're going to de-platform you.
00:17:22.000 Why are you so whiny about it?
00:17:25.000 It's like, well, that's not whining.
00:17:26.000 That's us sensing a threat.
00:17:27.000 And we're gonna, we here at The Daily Wire and other conservative places, we are going to mobilize to fight against that threat.
00:17:33.000 And we are going to use every market possibility to fight against that threat.
00:17:36.000 We're gonna build alternative institutions.
00:17:38.000 We are going to make way for thoughts that you guys do not want propagated.
00:17:42.000 Tough bleep.
00:17:43.000 You're gonna get some more of this in just one second.
00:17:46.000 First, let us talk about the fact that you don't want to be spending time in line at an auto shop right now.
00:17:51.000 An auto parts shop.
00:17:52.000 Like, you don't.
00:17:53.000 By the way, you don't ever.
00:17:54.000 You go over to the local auto parts shop and then you wait in line, you get to the front of the line, they have to order the part anyway, they charge you too much for it.
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00:18:54.000 Okay, so Margaret Sullivan continues along these lines.
00:18:57.000 She says that it does not cancel culture if we cancel you.
00:19:00.000 She says, night after night, Fox News offers primetime viewers its leftist gestalt on speech show.
00:19:06.000 Josh Hawley, who needed only a few days to find a new publisher for his book, subsequently blasted the muzzling of America in an opinion piece in the widely read New York Post.
00:19:13.000 Have any of these people been silenced?
00:19:14.000 Hardly.
00:19:15.000 And then, Margaret Sullivan, hilariously enough, quotes Parker Malloy of Media Matters, Yes, there's an objective, an objective, non-partisan, non-silencing site.
00:19:25.000 Media Matters exists only to silence voices it does not like.
00:19:29.000 All Media Matters does, every day, each day, they hire people to just watch shows like this one, clip them out of context, and then attack our advertisers and our subscribers.
00:19:37.000 That's all they do, all day.
00:19:39.000 So she quotes them as a source for why cancel culture doesn't exist.
00:19:42.000 I mean, my goodness, why don't you just quote OJ Simpson on why murder never happens?
00:19:47.000 Like, really.
00:19:48.000 As Parker Malloy puts it, despite getting a spot on the front page of the fourth largest newspaper in the U.S., coverage across the entire Fox News lineup, a new book deal, an audience of more than half a million followers on Twitter, and a lengthy list of credits on IMDb, Howley would like you to believe he is a man without a voice.
00:20:02.000 Okay, so the goal here, but here's the thing.
00:20:03.000 You guys want to take away all of those things.
00:20:06.000 All of those things.
00:20:07.000 It's not as though you're saying, yeah, you know, Josh Hawley, he, you know, if he loses his Simon & Schuster book contract, I'm glad that there are other publishers out there willing to pick up Josh Hawley's book contract.
00:20:15.000 You are sad about this.
00:20:17.000 You are angry.
00:20:18.000 You don't want Regnery to exist.
00:20:20.000 You don't want Fox News to exist.
00:20:21.000 You don't want Daily Wire to exist.
00:20:23.000 Quoting the person from Media Matters to the effect that Josh Hawley is not being silenced.
00:20:28.000 All Media Matters does all day long is attempt to silence people they don't like.
00:20:33.000 Okay, so here's what Margaret Sullivan concludes.
00:20:35.000 I talked to the leading First Amendment lawyer and scholar, Jamil Jaffer, about all this last week.
00:20:39.000 Jaffer thinks a lot of these complaints are misguided.
00:20:41.000 They spring, he said, from a misunderstanding of what the First Amendment is all about.
00:20:44.000 The point of the First Amendment is to take these kinds of debates out of the hands of government and put them in the hands of private citizens, says Jaffer, a Columbia University law professor and director of the Knight First Amendment Institute.
00:20:53.000 It's not subverting the First Amendment to criticize a politician or a cable news host or a right-wing provocateur.
00:20:58.000 That's the whole point of a First Amendment.
00:21:00.000 Nor is it a subversion of free speech values for news organizations to make editing decisions or for social media platforms to make and enforce rules.
00:21:06.000 There's the jump.
00:21:07.000 I love that part.
00:21:08.000 So, I agree.
00:21:09.000 You can criticize me as much as you want.
00:21:10.000 Nobody's saying Margaret Sullivan should lose her spot over at the Washington Post for being the world's crappiest columnist.
00:21:15.000 I'm not saying she should.
00:21:17.000 I think she should keep that.
00:21:18.000 I think they should keep paying her to write pap.
00:21:20.000 Everybody has to make a living in this country.
00:21:22.000 Okay, but I love that she says it's not even a subversion of, not the First Amendment, free speech values.
00:21:27.000 It's not a subversion of free speech values for social media platforms to make and enforce rules.
00:21:33.000 Amazing.
00:21:35.000 She says, these nuanced views don't get much airtime in the outrage factories of cable news and talk radio.
00:21:41.000 Jaffer said, it's important we should tolerate diverse views.
00:21:43.000 We benefit from a public square that includes ideas for making us uncomfortable.
00:21:48.000 Oh, but she doesn't want that, does she?
00:21:51.000 She doesn't at all.
00:21:53.000 She says, it would help if journalists push back more effectively.
00:21:56.000 CNN's Pamela Brown gave a masterclass in her devastating interview with Madison Cawthorn.
00:22:00.000 Even if that sort of pushback becomes the norm, news organizations should be wary of handing these charlatans a megaphone.
00:22:04.000 So instead of just rebutting people you don't like, instead, you should just not let them on the air.
00:22:09.000 She says, you can call that cancel culture if you want.
00:22:10.000 I call it responsibility.
00:22:12.000 Ah yes, responsibility is making sure you never have to hear an opposing point of view or rebut it.
00:22:16.000 You can just ban them outright.
00:22:19.000 Excellent job.
00:22:19.000 I definitely trust these people.
00:22:21.000 Why in the world would people on the right be paranoid that you guys are trying to ruin our lives?
00:22:25.000 Okay, so here's the thing.
00:22:26.000 It really isn't even about Margaret Sullivan going after me or about CNN going after Fox News.
00:22:31.000 The thing is, everybody knows this bleeds down to the common person.
00:22:34.000 This bleeds down to people who are not in media.
00:22:36.000 See, I do have an outlet.
00:22:37.000 We've spent millions of dollars building this outlet.
00:22:40.000 The outlet that we have is a very powerful outlet.
00:22:43.000 It is still reliant on social media platforms to allow us to exist.
00:22:48.000 Right?
00:22:48.000 It's possible that you are listening to the show right now on Apple.
00:22:51.000 It is possible that you are listening to the show right now or watching it over at YouTube.
00:22:56.000 It is possible that you're watching it over at Facebook, right?
00:22:58.000 All of those are platforms.
00:22:59.000 All of those platforms.
00:23:01.000 started off as places that pledged themselves to open an honest debate, we are still reliant on them.
00:23:06.000 But here's the thing.
00:23:07.000 We still have our own platform.
00:23:09.000 We still have the ability for you to subscribe.
00:23:10.000 This is why I've been encouraging everybody.
00:23:11.000 If you're on the conservative side of the aisle, you need to go and pay direct for the stuff you like, because the left is going to try and take it away on all the other mechanisms of distribution.
00:23:19.000 But put us aside, because we in the media, it's our job to find a way to get our information to you.
00:23:24.000 And in a free country, which the United States, thank God, still is, at least in most ways, we are going to find a way to get you that information with your help.
00:23:31.000 But what this really is about is not about me or about Tucker or about any of the people who are in the media sphere.
00:23:37.000 What this really is about is about you.
00:23:39.000 It's about you working your day job at a normal corporation.
00:23:42.000 It is you working your day job at a school.
00:23:45.000 It's about you working your day job Not being a politically volatile person, just posting on Facebook every once in a while, living in fear that your corporation is going to crack down on you for saying the wrong thing at work.
00:23:57.000 That somebody at work is going to find out that you voted for Trump or went to a Trump rally.
00:24:01.000 That somebody at work is going to find out that you listen to this show, so you make sure that you listen to it during your off hours.
00:24:07.000 This is about you worrying that your friends and neighbors are going to treat you as a leper, a social leper.
00:24:14.000 You happen to have different points of view.
00:24:16.000 See, in order for the First Amendment protections to abide, in order for the legal protections of government not to get involved in your free speech to continue, you need an attitude that is pro-free speech.
00:24:27.000 You see how Margaret Sullivan conflates the First Amendment legally with free speech as a value?
00:24:31.000 Those are not the same thing.
00:24:32.000 Free speech as a value is a commitment by the common person, by corporations, by your boss, to the idea that there can be some dissent in the workplace, to the idea that there can be open conversation, that they're not gonna fire you for something that has nothing to do with your ability to do your job.
00:24:47.000 It means that you, among your friends, you're not going to attempt to cancel people in your social circle just because you have disagreements about tax rates.
00:24:56.000 Or because they voted for somebody that you don't like, right?
00:24:59.000 It takes commitment by everybody to this certain level of diversity of values, right?
00:25:05.000 It does.
00:25:05.000 There have to be certain baseline because that diversity of value stands atop a broader universal value, right?
00:25:11.000 About which there can be no diversity.
00:25:12.000 And that is a value that free speech matters, that in a free society, we should be able to treat each other decently and still disagree about things.
00:25:19.000 That's the thing.
00:25:20.000 You got Margaret Sullivan calling me a right-wing flamethrower.
00:25:22.000 You know how many people I've had on this show who disagree with me?
00:25:25.000 Tons and tons and tons.
00:25:26.000 The Sunday special?
00:25:27.000 Nearly every week, somebody who disagrees with me in some way.
00:25:30.000 Margaret Sullivan is calling me the right-wing flamethrower.
00:25:32.000 I'm not the one who's shutting the window.
00:25:33.000 I'm not the one who's welding closed the door.
00:25:35.000 It's Margaret Sullivan doing that.
00:25:37.000 And praising herself for doing that.
00:25:39.000 And it's happening every day around the water cooler.
00:25:41.000 People are self-censoring.
00:25:42.000 People are silencing themselves.
00:25:43.000 It is bad for the country.
00:25:44.000 The left is happy about it because they feel as though they are in control.
00:25:47.000 And they are in control.
00:25:49.000 There was a Pew poll that was taken last year.
00:25:50.000 You know what it showed?
00:25:51.000 It showed that a plurality of every group politically in the United States, outside of woke progressives, believes they have to self-censor.
00:25:59.000 Every single one.
00:25:59.000 Liberals, moderate liberals, say that they have to self-censor what they believe at work because they are afraid of the repercussions.
00:26:04.000 The only people who never have to self-censor are the most radical leftists.
00:26:07.000 Those people can say whatever the hell they want.
00:26:10.000 They can say whatever they want.
00:26:12.000 And that is going to destroy the country.
00:26:15.000 It truly is.
00:26:16.000 Okay, so here is how this manifests for the media.
00:26:19.000 So what the media love to do in order to make this happen, everybody understands this is a really ugly thing that is happening right now.
00:26:25.000 Even people who are sort of mainstream liberals understand that this is an ugly thing.
00:26:28.000 That's why you had the Harper's Weekly letter last year, about 150 academics on the left, all of whom voted for Biden, I'm sure.
00:26:35.000 Not a single Trump voter among them.
00:26:37.000 wrote a letter to cry and cancel culture and the left went after them.
00:26:41.000 All of those people are being lumped in now with people on the right and all those people are being lumped in with the worst offenders of people who violate sort of norms of decency.
00:26:50.000 Because the goal here is to shut the Overton window so small that no one fits in it except for the wokest of everybody on a social level.
00:26:58.000 So if you have the right political values, by the way, then you have a free pass to do whatever you want.
00:27:02.000 And if you don't have the right political values, then you have a free pass to do nothing.
00:27:05.000 And we will dig up everything you wrote back in 2002, and we will use it to ruin you.
00:27:10.000 So, let's take a couple of examples.
00:27:12.000 So, right now, in politics, there are two stories.
00:27:16.000 One is going to receive significant media attention.
00:27:18.000 One is not going to receive significant media attention, at least not in the long haul.
00:27:22.000 Again, the one that's not gonna receive significant attention in the long haul, it's a story right now, so it's gotten a little bit of mainstream media attention, to be fair.
00:27:27.000 It's not gonna receive any over the course of the next two weeks.
00:27:31.000 The co-founder of the Lincoln Project, right?
00:27:32.000 The Lincoln Project is a bunch of supposedly ex-Republicans who went Democrat, wasted tens of millions of bucks targeting particular Republicans across the country, and then claimed victory after the last election cycle.
00:27:43.000 And it's sort of the most, not only never Trump and anti-Trump, but anti-Republican.
00:27:47.000 They were going after people like Susan Collins in Maine.
00:27:50.000 And so it turns out that the Lincoln Project, which is basically a bunch of grifters who suggested that they were going to say nasty things about Republicans and raise lots of money to do it.
00:27:57.000 It turns out that the co-founder, John Weaver, has now been condemned by the Lincoln Project in the wake of allegations that the longtime GOP strategist made unsolicited sexual overtures to several young men, including one who was 14 years old at the time he received sexual messages from Weaver.
00:28:12.000 The group, finally, after, I mean, there are reports about this for months, by the way.
00:28:16.000 Finally, the group put out a statement on Sunday when it became clear they couldn't keep running away from the story, saying, John Weaver led a secret life that was built on a foundation of deception at every level.
00:28:24.000 He's a predator, a liar, and an abuser.
00:28:25.000 We extend our deepest sympathies to those who are targeted by his deplorable and predatory behavior.
00:28:30.000 The Lincoln Project rose to prominence last year as they campaigned against Trump and others who supported him.
00:28:34.000 Weaver 61 helped co-found the group.
00:28:37.000 He had previously worked on the presidential campaigns for John McCain and John Kasich.
00:28:40.000 The New York Times published a report Sunday morning based on interviews with 21 men who alleged Weaver sent them unwanted provocative messages or solicited them for sex, often in exchange for the promise of professional help.
00:28:51.000 The New York Times story followed reports about Weaver's behavior from earlier this month, including one by the American conservatives Ryan Gerdersky on January 11th, and by Axios on January 15th.
00:29:02.000 His original response, Weaver's, was that he was a gay man, which is the get-out-of-jail-free card of sexual abuse, at least for a couple of weeks, right?
00:29:08.000 Is that if you're a straight guy, supposedly, who engages in predatory behavior, claiming you're gay is somehow supposed to give you cover.
00:29:15.000 Most gay men are not predators.
00:29:16.000 When I say most, I mean nearly all gay men are not predators.
00:29:18.000 So, that's a pretty pathetic defense there by Weaver.
00:29:23.000 So, on Sunday, the Lincoln Project noted, Weaver was never around the other members.
00:29:27.000 He said, we are grateful beyond words that in no time was John Weaver in the physical presence of any other member of the Lincoln Project.
00:29:33.000 Okay, fine.
00:29:33.000 So, this will be out of the news, I promise, within three days.
00:29:37.000 And the Lincoln Project will continue as though nothing ever happened.
00:29:40.000 Because they have issued the denunciation of their co-founder, and they will move on.
00:29:44.000 Okay, maybe that's right.
00:29:45.000 Maybe that's right.
00:29:46.000 Maybe they never knew.
00:29:46.000 Seriously, I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt.
00:29:48.000 Maybe they never knew any of this stuff was true.
00:29:50.000 Maybe they never knew that any of the rumors were true.
00:29:52.000 Fine.
00:29:52.000 Okay, do you think that the right is going to- if they were a right-wing group, do you really think that that would be let go within the next few days?
00:29:59.000 Watch.
00:30:00.000 Watch the news.
00:30:01.000 The mentions of Lincoln Project in the news will go like this.
00:30:01.000 You will see.
00:30:04.000 Right?
00:30:04.000 They're just going to crater.
00:30:06.000 Meanwhile, every Republican in America will be asked about the crazy person Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:30:13.000 Every single Republican for the next couple of years will be asked every time Marjorie Taylor Greene says a crazy thing to denounce Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:30:20.000 Because that's the way this game works.
00:30:21.000 Is that if there is somebody on the right who's crazy, and you need somebody crazy you can focus in on so that you can slander the entire Republican Party and every conservative with that person, you just keep focusing in on that person.
00:30:31.000 Right?
00:30:31.000 John Weaver will not be in the news two days from now.
00:30:34.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene will be in the news for the next couple of years at minimum, no matter how many times people say that she's a crazy person.
00:30:39.000 Because by the way, she's a crazy person.
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00:32:46.000 ♪♪ All righty, so here is the thing.
00:32:52.000 You've got the entire left basically saying that everybody on the right has to answer for its worst members.
00:32:59.000 Meanwhile, the rule on the left is that you never have to answer for any of your worst members.
00:33:03.000 It's pretty amazing, actually.
00:33:05.000 I've been hearing from folks on the left, why don't you guys on the right, why don't you just get rid of your worst folks?
00:33:10.000 And I say, well, you know, when Steve King said his white supremacy defense comment, right, when he said that thing, Some of us went full out for his opponent in a primary.
00:33:17.000 He got primary, he lost.
00:33:19.000 That seat now belongs to Feenstra in that same district.
00:33:23.000 So...
00:33:25.000 I'm just gonna note, you guys had Nancy Pelosi on the cover of magazines with Ilhan Omar.
00:33:31.000 Ilhan Omar is an open anti-Semite.
00:33:33.000 So is Rashida Tlaib.
00:33:34.000 They're both openly anti-Semitic.
00:33:36.000 Like, repeatedly and openly.
00:33:37.000 You couldn't even get a censure vote against those Congress people.
00:33:41.000 And the head of your caucus did magazine covers with those people.
00:33:45.000 And they are cheered wildly by the people in the media.
00:33:49.000 Constantly.
00:33:51.000 Okay, Marjorie Taylor Greene does not have a fan base outside of her immediate constituency in Georgia.
00:33:56.000 Okay, I'm wondering who exactly is the giant fan base for Marjorie Taylor Greene, and yet Marjorie Taylor Greene is being treated as though she is sort of the heroine of the Republican Party these days.
00:34:07.000 I don't know where, I mean, I do know where this is coming from.
00:34:09.000 It's coming from a motivated media line of thought that says Republicans are their worst members and Democrats don't have bad members.
00:34:16.000 They don't exist.
00:34:18.000 So, for example, You are seeing this.
00:34:20.000 Barbara Lee is Democrat, of course.
00:34:22.000 And Barbara Lee, she says on CNN, of course, that Marjorie Taylor Greene is a danger.
00:34:28.000 She shouldn't serve in any legislative body.
00:34:29.000 And it's just indicative of how bad the Republicans are that she's being allowed to serve.
00:34:32.000 Now, a couple of things.
00:34:33.000 One, she's an elected congressperson.
00:34:35.000 I don't believe that you can eject an elected congressperson based on comments made before they were a congressperson.
00:34:39.000 Once they're a congressperson, you can eject them based on comments that they make.
00:34:44.000 But if you dig up something they said a year ago, presumably the people spoke based on that information.
00:34:50.000 Here's Barbara Lee making this particular case.
00:34:53.000 She is a danger.
00:34:55.000 She's a threat.
00:34:56.000 She refuses to wear a mask.
00:34:59.000 Now, of course, we see, which is to be expected, the support of Donald Trump, who incited violence, who promoted the attempted coup on January 6th, and five people died.
00:35:11.000 And so she, based on who she is, her behavior, what she has said, She's a danger and should not serve in any legislative body.
00:35:20.000 So I agree she never should have been elected to Congress.
00:35:23.000 I totally agree.
00:35:23.000 By the way, the comments that she's referring to is that Marjorie Taylor Greene believes a bunch of crazy crap because she's kind of crazy.
00:35:29.000 Here's the stuff that she has said, according to the Sacramento Bee.
00:35:32.000 She suggested in a Facebook post that the wildfires in California She says there are all these people who have said they saw what looked like lasers or blue beams of light causing the fires and pictures and videos.
00:35:46.000 And apparently these lasers are controlled by the Jews.
00:35:51.000 Which is interesting.
00:35:52.000 The Post claims involvement from investor Richard Blum, husband of Senator Dianne Feinstein, and the banking firm Rothschild Inc.
00:35:58.000 So apparently, she says, if they are beaming the sun's energy back to Earth, I'm sure they would never miss a transmitter receiving station, right?
00:36:05.000 I mean, mistakes are never made when anything new is invented.
00:36:07.000 What would that look like anyway?
00:36:08.000 A laser beam or light beam coming down to Earth, I guess?
00:36:10.000 Could that cause a fire?
00:36:11.000 Hmm, I don't know.
00:36:11.000 I hope not.
00:36:12.000 That sure wouldn't look so good for PG&E, Rothschild, Inc., Solarin, or Jerry Brown, who doesn't seem fond of PG&E.
00:36:20.000 She's also trafficking QAnon, which is crazy towns.
00:36:24.000 And she shared social media posts asserting in 2018 that the Parkland shooting was a false flag operation.
00:36:31.000 Okay, so she's a nut.
00:36:33.000 She's a nutty person who was elected to Congress because it was a small primary.
00:36:37.000 She's the only person who received any sort of funding or media attention.
00:36:40.000 And next time around, she should not be elected, right?
00:36:43.000 And if she says this sort of stuff while she's in Congress, then Congress has every ability to eject her from Congress, certainly to censure her.
00:36:50.000 With all of that said, the attempt to paint Marjorie Taylor Greene as the face of the Republican Party is pretty obvious by the media.
00:36:54.000 That is why there is all this oppo-focus on Marjorie Taylor Greene right now.
00:36:58.000 See, they can't do it for Trump anymore, right?
00:36:59.000 Trump's gone.
00:37:00.000 So now they have to find a new face of the Republican Party.
00:37:02.000 So are they going to pick one of the other faces of the Republican Party?
00:37:05.000 Are they going to pick, like, Dan Crenshaw?
00:37:07.000 No, of course not.
00:37:09.000 Instead, they're going to pick Marjorie Taylor Greene and attempt to claim the entire Republican Party is, in fact, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and suggest over and over that Republicans are more worried about the normies within the party than they are about the Marjorie Taylor Greene's within the party.
00:37:22.000 So that's what Chris Wallace was doing over the weekend on Fox News.
00:37:25.000 The Fox News, by the way, that Brian Stelter would like to ban.
00:37:27.000 Here's Chris Wallace saying that there is more focus on Lynne Cheney in the Republican Party than there is on Marjorie Taylor Greene, which I'm not sure how that is the case, considering that every single Republican member I have heard of has condemned Marjorie Taylor Greene's comments.
00:37:41.000 In any case, here's Chris Wallace.
00:37:43.000 You know, you've got a situation right now where there is more visible outrage inside the GOP over Liz Cheney, a member of leadership voting to impeach the president, over rather than some of these wild conspiracy theories being espoused by Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:38:03.000 How serious is this for the GOP and what can they do about it?
00:38:05.000 I mean, take her off committees?
00:38:07.000 Expel her?
00:38:09.000 What are their options here?
00:38:10.000 So a couple of things.
00:38:11.000 Liz Cheney, with regard to impeachment, is obviously doing something that's kind of more important within the Republican Party than this fringe nut from Georgia who believes in Jewish Space Laser.
00:38:20.000 By the way, I can't tell you more about the Jewish Space Laser.
00:38:23.000 First rule of Jewish Space Laser is you never talk about Jewish Space Laser.
00:38:28.000 Second rule of Jewish Space Laser is that we never roll on Shabbos.
00:38:32.000 Those are the two rules of Jewish Space Laser.
00:38:34.000 But aside from that, But the reason that Republicans are maybe focused on the controversy surrounding Liz Cheney is because impeachment is kind of a big thing, and Liz Cheney is the number three Republican in the House, whereas this lady is a first-term backbencher from Georgia who probably won't win re-election in her district.
00:38:48.000 So maybe that is more of an issue in the immediate term for the Republican Party.
00:38:52.000 But the goal here, of course, is that every Republican is going to be smeared with With Marjorie Taylor Greene in the same way that every Republican a few years back was smeared with Todd Akin.
00:39:01.000 That is the way this works.
00:39:03.000 You're going to hear MTG, Marjorie Taylor Greene, repeated over and over and over again.
00:39:07.000 And by the way, because the left does this, this is what they do.
00:39:09.000 Because the left is going to spend an inordinate amount of time, the mainstream media, on this person, that is going to drive people into the arms of this person.
00:39:16.000 Because then people will be like, why is this person being unfairly attacked?
00:39:19.000 Why are they constantly talking about her?
00:39:21.000 Okay, she's gonna end up with a larger following, which of course is exactly what a lot of people want.
00:39:25.000 A lot of people, including Marjorie Taylor Greene, I would assume, love that media attention.
00:39:29.000 Because the media focusing on that means a lot of people in reactionary fashion will then go and defend Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:39:33.000 Now, two things can be true at once.
00:39:35.000 One, she shouldn't be in Congress.
00:39:36.000 She believes a lot of crazy crap, crazy crap.
00:39:40.000 And two, she is not a mainstream Republican voice.
00:39:43.000 She is not the leader of any movement.
00:39:45.000 She is not an important person in the Republican caucus.
00:39:48.000 And she should be primaried next time around by a well-funded opponent.
00:39:52.000 Okay, but that's not what the media's design here is to do.
00:39:54.000 The media's design is to create this supposed imbalance between craziness on the right and craziness on the left.
00:40:00.000 Reality check.
00:40:01.000 There's craziness on both sides.
00:40:03.000 The crazy people on both sides need to be condemned.
00:40:05.000 I see actually more condemnation from it very often on the right than I do from people on the left.
00:40:10.000 Again, the left just wants to pretend away the idea that there is any sort of similarity between the craziness.
00:40:16.000 Okay, the craziness extends across the aisle.
00:40:18.000 I saw an entire Democratic Party look the other way or cheer while cities burned during the summer.
00:40:22.000 And then, when the Capitol riots happened, they're like, why are you guys on the right not condemning the violence more strenuously?
00:40:27.000 Some of us condemn the violence both times, guys.
00:40:30.000 Some of us thought it was evil, both times.
00:40:32.000 Some of you are just full of crap.
00:40:35.000 And when you do the same thing with Marjorie Taylor Greene while you wrap your large-scale democratic embrace around Ilhan Omar and pretend that she's a leading figure in your movement?
00:40:43.000 I'm gonna say that you guys don't have a leg to stand on when you talk about anti-Semitism in your own party.
00:40:46.000 Especially given the fact that your entire critical race theory nonsense is rooted in anti-Semitic perceptions about how Jews are not actually a victimized people.
00:40:53.000 Jews are actually just successful white people.
00:40:56.000 Now Asians are turning into white people thanks to critical race theory.
00:41:00.000 So yeah, I don't buy any of your phony insanity about this rando, weirdo, crazy person.
00:41:10.000 I think that it's a little bit convenient that you've decided to elevate Marjorie Taylor Greene to the leadership of the Republican Party based on zero evidence that she's a member of the leadership of the Republican Party.
00:41:21.000 That is the goal here.
00:41:21.000 Fringe everybody by pointing at this one person.
00:41:24.000 Then that allows you to basically silence anybody.
00:41:27.000 This is the part that's amazing.
00:41:29.000 To be mildly self-centered here for a second.
00:41:31.000 When Politico, when people say I shouldn't have written for Politico because I'm a right-wing firebrand.
00:41:35.000 Okay, let me just point out, I'm maybe the only person on the right who said from the get-go that Trump didn't have evidence that he'd won the election.
00:41:43.000 Okay, so, but that's, there's nobody moderate enough for these folks.
00:41:48.000 That's the point.
00:41:49.000 If you disagree with them, you are by nature immoderate.
00:41:52.000 That's the whole goal.
00:41:52.000 Everybody is in the same boat, including the person who's not even political, who just wants to go to work and be left alone and go home and then believe what they want about politics.
00:42:01.000 They're not going to be allowed to do any of that.
00:42:04.000 Okay, meanwhile, I will say that the kind of nuttiness within the Republican Party needs to be stopped and it needs to be condemned.
00:42:13.000 I think overall it has been, but I think that it needs more, always more.
00:42:18.000 From both sides would be great.
00:42:19.000 But I'm a conservative, so I would like to see it in the Republican Party as well.
00:42:23.000 So Doug Ducey, the excellent governor of Arizona, he was censured by the state Republican Party for no reason at all because Kelly Ward is the head of the state Republican Party, which is very foolish.
00:42:35.000 The state party chairman instead has been condemning Ducey.
00:42:39.000 The state Republican Party has been on Twitter, you know, signaling loyalty to the idea that Trump won the election over and over or that there was fraud in the state of Arizona, which I don't believe was even alleged by the Trump campaign.
00:42:49.000 And then they tried to censure Ducey for not going along with attempts to overturn the election results.
00:42:56.000 So here is Ducey chiding the state Republican Party.
00:42:58.000 By the way, note to Arizona Republicans, if you want to make that state blue, please continue doing what you're doing.
00:43:04.000 If you would like the state to remain red, You need to stop going along with the people who are the fringiest of the fringe.
00:43:11.000 Passion does not mean strategic acumen.
00:43:13.000 Ducey happens to be an excellent Republican governor of a purple state.
00:43:17.000 You don't want that state to go blue?
00:43:18.000 Maybe you should listen to the guy who can actually win statewide.
00:43:22.000 This is an action of very little consequence.
00:43:26.000 The party in Arizona has had a long history of discontent.
00:43:31.000 This is just the latest example.
00:43:34.000 I think that the state party chairman should focus on winning races.
00:43:38.000 That should be a top priority.
00:43:40.000 I believe I was in good company in that cartoon.
00:43:43.000 And I also want to say I worked incredibly hard to deliver the state for Donald Trump and Red up through election day.
00:43:53.000 Okay, so, meanwhile, things are getting radical over on the Biden side of the aisle, and we're never going to talk about that.
00:43:58.000 Everything that Biden does is going to be treated as completely mainstream and decent in every possible way.
00:44:03.000 So let's talk about that for a second.
00:44:05.000 Every single day, the Democrats are rolling out more evidence that they are more and more radical, and the media are going to treat this as moderation.
00:44:13.000 They're going to just pretend that nothing bad is going on.
00:44:16.000 So Susan Rice, who's the domestic policy advisor, based on her vast experience lying to the American public about Benghazi, she is the domestic policy advisor to Joe Biden.
00:44:24.000 And she was explaining to Jonathan Capehart, who again is a far left guy.
00:44:29.000 He writes for the Washington Post.
00:44:30.000 He's over on MSNBC.
00:44:31.000 She was explaining to Jonathan Capehart that when the Biden administration says things like racial justice and racial equity, Then that is not divisive.
00:44:38.000 Now, here's the thing.
00:44:39.000 It's super divisive.
00:44:40.000 The reason it's divisive is because it is thinking of justice as a group thing.
00:44:43.000 Justice is not a group thing.
00:44:44.000 Justice is an individual thing.
00:44:46.000 The definition of justice is you get what you deserve, not you get what your group deserves, which is inherently racially bigoted.
00:44:52.000 The idea that you get what your group deserves, why?
00:44:55.000 Why?
00:44:56.000 Seriously.
00:44:57.000 But that is the case that is being made over and over by the Biden administration.
00:45:01.000 Here is Susan Rice saying that this is actually unifying.
00:45:03.000 This is the new unity, guys.
00:45:04.000 They're not radical.
00:45:05.000 This is all moderate.
00:45:06.000 Here is Susan Rice.
00:45:08.000 This is actually the opposite of dividing us.
00:45:11.000 This is about bringing everybody in and being inclusive.
00:45:14.000 It's a bit rich for the Republicans after the 44 years of the most divisive president ever, who use bigotry and hatred as a political strategy to accuse a new administration that is trying to include and lift up everybody.
00:45:31.000 It's literally not attempting to include and lift up everybody if you are saying that certain groups should be privileged above other groups.
00:45:35.000 That is the exact policy that is being proposed.
00:45:38.000 By the way, even Politico is noting this today.
00:45:40.000 I didn't write Politico, guys.
00:45:41.000 It's okay.
00:45:41.000 You don't have to get mad at Politico.
00:45:43.000 Staffers at Politico.
00:45:43.000 Okay?
00:45:44.000 So they have an entire piece in the fabled, untouchable, pristine Politico playbook.
00:45:53.000 Okay, about the equity versus equality routine that the Biden administration is doing.
00:45:59.000 They say this, they're all talking about equity, right?
00:46:02.000 This is the early buzzword of the Biden administration, popping up in nearly every policy proposal, executive order, and speech by the president and his top official so far.
00:46:08.000 They're all talking about equity, not to be confused with equality, the umbrella term that past administrations, including Barack Obama's, use to describe efforts to address racial and economic disparities.
00:46:17.000 So what's this all about?
00:46:18.000 The idea in a nutshell is this, Equality means every person is treated the same.
00:46:22.000 They get the same resources from the government and same access to services no matter what.
00:46:27.000 Well, no.
00:46:27.000 Equality generally means that every person is treated the same according to the rights that are accorded to them.
00:46:32.000 Equity is an attempt to account for differences in need among people from disadvantaged backgrounds.
00:46:37.000 Even this is a bias, no.
00:46:38.000 Equity is an attempt to end with the same result for all groups.
00:46:43.000 That's the goal, right?
00:46:44.000 Whereas Kamala Harris put it two days before the election, equality suggests, oh, everyone should get the same amount.
00:46:49.000 The problem with that, not everybody's starting out from the same place, which sounds a lot like communism, right?
00:46:53.000 Everybody should end up with the same amount.
00:46:55.000 The distinction is more than a matter of semantics.
00:46:57.000 It is critical to understanding how the Biden agenda is taking shape and where it's heading in the months and years to come.
00:47:02.000 Already, equity is an organizing principle of every policy prescription Biden has put forward so far, from housing to climate change.
00:47:08.000 Don't worry, they're not radicals, guys.
00:47:09.000 It's totally fine.
00:47:11.000 Today, I wrote about another example in a story for Politico, say the editors of Playbook.
00:47:15.000 Black and brown people who are disproportionately affected by the coronavirus are also least likely to get vaccinated.
00:47:20.000 There are lots of reasons why, but access to the internet to sign up for shots, and access to pharmacies and hospitals to receive the shots, is a big one.
00:47:26.000 Simply giving all people access to vaccination isn't enough, Biden officials say.
00:47:30.000 It will likely require deploying mobile units to certain black and brown neighborhoods, among other targeted actions, to get the job done.
00:47:36.000 Okay, no, the actual critique of vaccine policy is not that in areas where there's literally no ability to get vaccine, we should make sure that people can get vaccine.
00:47:44.000 The critique is that the CDC policy... The critique is that the CDC policy originally recommended that we vaccinate young African-American people before 65-year-old white people, which is nuts.
00:47:58.000 Okay, that's crazy.
00:48:00.000 Now, says Politico, conservatives have taken notice of Biden's embrace of equity and are criticizing it as affirmative action by a different name.
00:48:07.000 That is what it is.
00:48:08.000 In push for woke equity, Biden abandons equality, read the headline of a New York Post editorial over the weekend.
00:48:13.000 The equity approach assumes that any outcome that doesn't meet inane racial quotas is the result of bias and in fact, systemically racist.
00:48:19.000 The newspaper opined.
00:48:20.000 Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas asked HUD Secretary-designate Marcia Fudge about the difference during her confirmation hearing on Thursday, seemingly trying to get her acknowledged that equity means treating people differently based on their race.
00:48:32.000 Fudge's response, quote, you know, if you say to me that I'm going to give you five bucks and you're going to give my friend five bucks, my five bucks is not necessarily going to go this far because my friend already has a mother and father who are wealthy.
00:48:42.000 Shortly after, Cotton sent out an email blast highlighting the exchange, signaling this could soon become ammunition in Washington's partisan warfare.
00:48:50.000 Oh, Republicans pounce.
00:48:51.000 That's the problem.
00:48:52.000 These Republicans, they won't accept the idea that we should basically segregate people according to group and then treat them according to group identity rather than individually.
00:49:00.000 By the way, even fudge is fudging there.
00:49:03.000 The truth is, in the United States, we already have means-based social welfare programs.
00:49:09.000 I do not receive any benefits from the federal government.
00:49:11.000 People who are very impoverished in the United States receive benefits from the federal government.
00:49:15.000 That's not what this is about.
00:49:16.000 When they say equity, what they mean is that they're going to judge you based on your race.
00:49:20.000 They're going to judge you based on your history of racial victimization, not personally, but as a group.
00:49:25.000 So Colin Powell's kid should receive five bucks, and my kid should not receive five bucks, even though both are growing up pretty wealthy.
00:49:32.000 Expect the debate, says Politico, to shape how some white Americans in the middle and on the right think about the Biden-Harris presidency.
00:49:37.000 The left has recently embraced the shift to equity, and black and brown people have been there for decades.
00:49:41.000 Will Biden try to sell it to the public?
00:49:43.000 Doesn't look like it.
00:49:44.000 So far, at least, administration officials are saying equity a lot, proposing policies they think reflect it, and hoping that it clicks.
00:49:50.000 Well, the reason that they are using the term equity, as opposed to something like affirmative action, or quote-unquote reparative justice, right, that's the other one they use, reparative justice, because it's a reparation, they don't want to use that language.
00:50:01.000 They say equity, hoping that your brain will think equality, and then you'll just let it go.
00:50:05.000 That's the goal here.
00:50:06.000 Just as they've shifted from disinformation to misinformation in the media so they can shut up people they don't like, now they're shifting from equality to equity in the hope that you don't know the difference between equality and equity because one has only one extra syllable, basically.
00:50:18.000 And this has become the talking point for every element of the Democratic agenda.
00:50:22.000 Over the weekend, National Climate Advisor Gina McCarthy, she said, the environment is a racial justice issue.
00:50:27.000 Everything is a racial justice issue.
00:50:31.000 Climate change is a racial justice issue because it exacerbates the challenges in the communities that have been left behind.
00:50:38.000 It goes after the very same communities that pollution has held back and racism has held back.
00:50:46.000 And it's our opportunity to serve those communities, to elevate them.
00:50:51.000 Okay, it's pretty amazing.
00:50:53.000 And by the way, the goal here, the goal here, that racial justice and climate justice are the same thing, the goal here is that if you then say you oppose their program, what are they going to call you?
00:51:01.000 You know where it's going.
00:51:02.000 I don't like your climate change program.
00:51:04.000 Oh, it's because you're a racist.
00:51:06.000 You're a racist, right?
00:51:07.000 It's because you're a white supremacist.
00:51:08.000 You're defending the white supremacist system.
00:51:10.000 This is why whenever you hear anybody on the left use the language anti-racist, there's so much semantic game playing here.
00:51:14.000 When people on the left use the language anti-racist, they do not mean opposes racism.
00:51:18.000 They mean opposes the, if you're anti-racist, it means opposes quote-unquote systems of racism.
00:51:24.000 Meaning any system that ends with a racially disparate outcome is a racist system.
00:51:30.000 And if you don't oppose that system, you are therefore complicit in that system.
00:51:33.000 That's the Ibram X. Kendi nonsense.
00:51:35.000 How radical is this?
00:51:36.000 It's so radical that over the weekend, Ibram Kendi was attacking John McWhorter.
00:51:41.000 Okay?
00:51:41.000 John McWhorter is not a conservative.
00:51:43.000 John McWhorter is like a middle-of-the-road liberal.
00:51:47.000 But now, Ibram Kendi is basically suggesting that John McWhorter needs to be run out of polite society because he opposes Ibram X. Kendi's anti-racist, fascistic nonsense.
00:51:59.000 And by the way, it is absolutely fascistic nonsense.
00:52:02.000 There's no question about it, right?
00:52:04.000 Ibram X. Kendi has specifically proposed, I am not kidding you, that there be a national department at the federal level in the executive branch, a national anti-racism department capable of striking down any state, local, or federal policy ending with disparate racial outcome.
00:52:19.000 Okay, with not an elected body, just a bunch of experts who basically rule in order to achieve a completely equitable arrangement at the top of politics.
00:52:28.000 Now, Kendi is going after John McWhorter, who is a black liberal.
00:52:31.000 Okay, like this is how far this is going.
00:52:34.000 So don't let them pretend that this is all about equality or it's about decency or it's about liberty.
00:52:40.000 It absolutely is not.
00:52:42.000 It absolutely is not.
00:52:44.000 Instead, it is about ousting people you disagree with, even if you disagree with them, kind of mildly on policy.
00:52:52.000 This prompted, by the way, John McWhorter over the weekend to tweet out, McWhorter has an excellent piece over at Substack all about this.
00:52:56.000 alone in finding his ideas primitive. Go with it and walk on. Maybe even tell your friends you don't get the hype. You'll likely find that they never did either.
00:53:02.000 McCorder has an excellent piece over at Substack all about this. He talked about, at Substack, the Kendi ideology and how it is infusing so many places all across the country. He says it's a great piece.
00:53:16.000 He says, in my Atlantic article about anti-racism manifestos that threaten to destroy institutions of basic missions as educational, I mentioned that the Dalton School in New York was considering transformative anti-racism measures.
00:53:29.000 However, I have it on good authority that, in fact, the damage was already done as of last semester.
00:53:32.000 Here are some snapshots from Dalton Fall 2020 from concerned parents who, because of they went public with their names, they would be pilloried as bigots nationwide, are staying anonymous.
00:53:41.000 Quote, Every class this year has had an obsessive focus on race and identity, racist cop reenactments in science, de-centering whiteness in art class, learning about white supremacy and sexuality in health class.
00:53:52.000 By the way, not rare at the Dalton School.
00:53:55.000 In California, I believe it was at Brentwood School, somebody sent an email to me that showed that parents are being separated by race for actual parent-teacher conferences.
00:54:05.000 They're having like a white parents' night and a black parents' night.
00:54:08.000 This is in line with equity.
00:54:09.000 It's all equity.
00:54:11.000 Honestly, the segregationists from 1955 are just clapping and gleeing their graves.
00:54:17.000 Now the elect, my term for the hyper works, woke, says John McWhorter, who are hijacking constructive leftist ideals in this nation, will claim that this sort of thing is exactly what education needs to be, and that white or white parents who object are displaying fragility.
00:54:30.000 However, we get that fragility notion from one of the worst books ever written, as I've argued.
00:54:34.000 What Dalton is doing is tragic and grisly.
00:54:37.000 By the way, I cannot resist noting that I hear on good authority that Professor Robin D'Angelo has claimed she is the Neil deGrasse Tyson to my astrologer.
00:54:44.000 I will only say that quite a few presented within the three of us would find me more akin, if only superficially, to Tyson for certain reasons.
00:54:51.000 Neil deGrasse Tyson is black.
00:54:52.000 McWhorter is black.
00:54:52.000 D'Angelo is white.
00:54:55.000 He says, in the Atlantic piece I wrote of how anti-racist protests shut down Bryn Mawr last semester.
00:55:00.000 The protests actually spread to allied schools Haverford and Swarthmore.
00:55:03.000 I have it on good authority that at Swarthmore, the president simply folded arms and said no to the protesters, upon which they basically folded in their tails and went away.
00:55:11.000 Because the president is a black woman, Valerie Smith.
00:55:11.000 Why?
00:55:14.000 The key is here.
00:55:15.000 This is the key.
00:55:16.000 She knew she could respond to melodramatic performance art with the refusal it deserved because no one could call her racist.
00:55:22.000 And this is the point that he's making, is that, again, the redefinition of racism, from has animus on the basis of race, to you don't agree with my agenda, that transformation is vile and dangerous.
00:55:37.000 He says, I don't mean that being against racism is BS, I mean that a certain strain of quote-unquote anti-racism these days is BS.
00:55:44.000 And that's right, for just saying this, Kendi wants basically McWhorter barred from the public conversation.
00:55:50.000 And that's the exact ideology that is now being embraced by the Biden administration.
00:55:54.000 Get ready for it.
00:55:55.000 This is the danger of the Biden administration.
00:55:58.000 Not specifically the policies they enact, which will be bad.
00:56:01.000 The stuff that's actually dangerous from the Biden administration is going to be the ideology they put forward.
00:56:04.000 It was an ideology first put forward during the Obama years.
00:56:07.000 It is being revivified much more deeply and in hyper-partisan fashion by the Biden administration.
00:56:15.000 By the way, if you think these people have the best, if you think these people have the best interest of all Americans at heart, remember Biden, you know, during his inaugural, he said, I'm here for unity, and I'm here because, you know, I want, I'm going to stand for all Americans, unity in all Americans, and all this stuff.
00:56:31.000 I don't think that his administration has all Americans in mind.
00:56:34.000 Just the latest indicator, Kamala Harris, the most wondrous of all vice presidents, right?
00:56:38.000 Just incredible at her job.
00:56:40.000 She did an interview over the weekend in which she has all Americans in mind.
00:56:44.000 She deeply cares about all Americans.
00:56:45.000 And the Biden administration's environmental plans are going to wreck a bunch of jobs in places like West Virginia because of their attempts to shut down carbon emissions.
00:56:53.000 Okay, here is Kamala Harris, who obviously cares about everyone, so caring, so knowledgeable, completely botching West Virginia mining policy.
00:57:01.000 You will hear her in this clip refer to abandoned mine lands as landmines because she is so knowledgeable and understanding and really takes all Americans' concerns seriously.
00:57:12.000 Job creation around, for example, all of those skilled workers who are in the coal industry and transferring those skills to what we need to do in terms of dealing with reclaiming abandoned landmines.
00:57:28.000 What we need to do around plugging leaks from oil and gas wells and transferring those important skills to the work that has yet to be done that needs to get done.
00:57:39.000 Oh, we do need those West Virginians out there ensuring that we, what?
00:57:47.000 Somehow failed to trigger the abandoned landmines.
00:57:50.000 It's like the demilitarized zone in Korea.
00:57:53.000 Well done there, Kamala Harris.
00:57:55.000 Only the experts, only the experts.
00:57:56.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here later today for an additional hour of programming.
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00:58:17.000 Executive Producer, Jeremy Boring.
00:58:19.000 Our Supervising Producers are Mathis Glover and Robert Sterling.
00:58:22.000 Production Manager, Paweł Łajdowski.
00:58:24.000 Our Associate Producers are Rebecca Doyle and Savannah Dominguez.
00:58:26.000 The show is edited by Adam Sajewicz.
00:58:29.000 Audio is mixed by Mike Koromina.
00:58:31.000 Hair and Makeup is by Fabiola Cristina.
00:58:33.000 Production Assistant, Jessica Kranz.
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