The Ben Shapiro Show - COURSE CORRECTION? Bovino OUT, Trump and Walz Make Nice

00:00:00.000 The Trump administration shifts tactics in Minneapolis, making nice with Governor Tim Walz, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry, and moving Gregory Bovino of Border Patrol out of his position in Tom Holman in.

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00:00:50.000 It appears that the Democrats' chaos attempt in Minneapolis has now borne fruit.

00:00:56.000 And that is the result of legacy media coverage.

00:00:59.000 Of course, it's also the result of a couple of tragic incidents.

00:01:02.000 And it is indeed the result of mishandling of those tragic incidents by people inside the Trump administration.

00:01:07.000 That combination meant that the chaos attempt by Democrats in Minneapolis has actually worked to some extent.

00:01:14.000 It is now driven action by the Trump administration.

00:01:16.000 The Trump administration yesterday announced that Gregory Bavino has essentially lost his job.

00:01:21.000 Gregory Bavino is the border patrol chief who is the commander at large and will return apparently to El Centro.

00:01:26.000 Christy Noam, who's the head of Department of Homeland Security, is also on thin ice at this point, given her mishandling of a couple of tragic cases in which American citizens were shot under disputed circumstances.

00:01:37.000 One, Renee Good was attempting to obstruct federal operations, and then she hit an agent with her car and was shot to death.

00:01:44.000 And Alex Predi, who was, again, obstructing federal operations, resisted arrest and was disarmed, but apparently the officers still thought he was armed and shot him to death.

00:01:55.000 The mishandling of those situations by both Gregory Bovino and Christy Noam has put the administration in a particularly poor position.

00:02:03.000 But let's not forget that this begins with Democrats attempting to obstruct federal law.

00:02:08.000 And because Democrats have been obstructing federal law, because they've been attempting to dissuade the administration from enforcing the law, this has meant that the administration has been forced to actually change its tactics with regard to deportations in large measure.

00:02:23.000 The Wall Street Journal has a really interesting and important piece today talking about the Trump mass deportation policy.

00:02:30.000 So let's be real.

00:02:32.000 The Trump mass deportation policy, which has been part of Trump's stump speech since 2015, has suggested that all illegal immigrants have to go.

00:02:40.000 The reality is that Americans are much more focused when it comes to actual deportation from the United States of America.

00:02:46.000 They are much more focused and much more on board with deportation of illegal immigrants who have committed independent crimes.

00:02:53.000 They may be fine with the idea of mass deportation, deportation of people who are illegal immigrants, but have committed no other crime aside from the illegal immigration. 0.69

00:03:01.000 But the place they really want to focus and the easy call for them and the politically easy call is the people who are committing an arson and assault and murder, right?

00:03:11.000 Those are the people that the American people are positive they want to see gone.

00:03:15.000 And early on, the administration did an amazing job of targeting specifically those people.

00:03:19.000 And in red states, they are still targeting those people.

00:03:23.000 The problem is that blue states have done a good job of not working with ICE and obstructing federal law enforcement.

00:03:29.000 And that has meant that ICE has become more untargeted in its pursuit of criminal illegal aliens.

00:03:35.000 So as the Wall Street Journal points out, at the beginning of 2025, 87% of ICE arrests were immigrants with either a prior conviction or a criminal charge pending, according to ICE data obtained by the Deportation Data Project.

00:03:48.000 Only 13% of those arrested at the beginning of 2025 didn't have either a conviction or a pending charge.

00:03:53.000 But the criminal share of apprehensions has declined as the months have gone on.

00:03:57.000 By October 2025, the percentage of arrested immigrants with a prior conviction or criminal charge had fallen all the way down to 55%.

00:04:05.000 That is a reflection of blue states not working with ICE, because one way you guarantee that people who have been arrested for criminal charges end up out of the country is when you don't have sanctuary states and sanctuary cities refusing to work with ICE and Border Patrol.

00:04:20.000 Because if you work with ICE, then you pick somebody up for rape, you check their immigration status.

00:04:26.000 If they are here illegally, you call up ICE and that person ends up being deported. 0.93

00:04:29.000 If you don't work with ICE, maybe that person ends up in jail.

00:04:32.000 Maybe that person ends up in the system and then is acquitted or is released for lack of evidence and ends up running around the countryside.

00:04:38.000 And that's what's been happening in blue states.

00:04:40.000 Since October, 73% taken into ICE custody had no criminal conviction.

00:04:45.000 Only 5% had a violent criminal conviction, according to a Cato Institute review of ICE data.

00:04:51.000 Now, again, what this means is that ICE, when it goes to actually try and do deportations, it ends up picking up people who may or may not have committed a crime, but fewer of them will have committed a separate crime than if they were just going into the jails.

00:05:04.000 And this is a point that's been made by the White House Borders R Tom Homan. 0.95

00:05:08.000 He said, if they let us in their damn jail, we could arrest the bad guy in the safety and security of the jail. 0.96

00:05:13.000 And what that also means is that when ICE does pursue a criminal, illegal immigrant, they now have to go and knock down a door. 0.99

00:05:20.000 They now have to go into a neighborhood in order to do all of that.

00:05:25.000 This makes ICE confrontations more likely.

00:05:29.000 It makes protests more plentiful.

00:05:31.000 It means uglier pictures on your TV.

00:05:33.000 And this is being facilitated and driven again by Democrat sanctuary city policies.

00:05:38.000 But what that means is that also those ugly pictures on your TV change how people think of the issue in general.

00:05:46.000 People like when the law is enforced.

00:05:47.000 They like law and order.

00:05:48.000 They just don't like to see law and order in progress.

00:05:51.000 They don't like to see it happen.

00:05:52.000 By the way, this is not just true for illegal immigration.

00:05:54.000 This is true for normal police operations.

00:05:57.000 Policing is a very messy and difficult job.

00:06:00.000 This is why you will see many circumstances in which somebody takes a video of a police officer having to do his job and the entire online crowd will jump on the police officer for having to do the kinds of stuff police officers have to do.

00:06:14.000 Because pretty much every person who is dealing with a cop is experiencing the worst day of their life when they deal with the cop.

00:06:21.000 And the cop all day long has to deal with people who are experiencing that.

00:06:25.000 And so he is likely to encounter people in their most violent state.

00:06:29.000 And that means that the pictures on your TV, when this stuff gets broadcast on your TV, is ugly.

00:06:33.000 And just like everything else, ugly in life, people don't like to see the ugliness.

00:06:37.000 They just like to see the result if the result is good.

00:06:42.000 War, domestic law enforcement, all of these things, when people see ugly pictures on their TV, they get very, very upset, even though they want the results from the ugly pictures.

00:06:53.000 Well, when those ugly pictures involve American citizens being killed under disputed circumstances, at the very best, very checkered circumstances for the deaths of Renee Good and Alex Predi.

00:07:05.000 When that happens, that allows legacy media actors to treat all of law enforcement as an exercise in brutal tyranny.

00:07:14.000 If you want to see how legacy media are twisting this chaos operation into a story about the evils of ICE, all you have to do is look at Jimmy Kimmel.

00:07:21.000 We'll get to that in a moment first.

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00:09:48.000 So, just to take an example of this sort of propagandizing, Jimmy Kimmel did this last night.

00:09:53.000 Here was Jimmy Kimmel going off on pretty much all ICE agents, all border patrol, and suggesting that they are mass thugs, terrorists roaming our streets.

00:10:02.000 Here he was last night on ABC News.

00:10:05.000 I spent the weekend, like probably a lot of you did, looking at my phone and just feeling shocked and sick about what is happening in Minneapolis.

00:10:12.000 These one video after another, screaming people being torn from their families, Americans, people who were born in the United States being pulled out of their cars for the crime of having an accent or whatever, children, small children, babies being tear gassed, taken into custody, separated from their parents.

00:10:31.000 Just one atrocity after another being committed by this gang of poorly trained, shamefully led mask-wearing goons. 0.68

00:10:38.000 And that is what they are. 0.99

00:10:39.000 They're goons committing vile, heartless, and even criminal acts. 0.98

00:10:44.000 And it's sickening to watch, and it's frustrating to watch. 0.76

00:10:47.000 It's like we're all being forced to play a game that has no rules.

00:10:50.000 They just make up the rules as they go along.

00:10:53.000 When you hear Kimmel label our law enforcement, they are ours, right?

00:10:58.000 I mean, we pay their salaries, as jackbooted thugs, mass thugs who are out there pursuing atrocities against Americans.

00:11:06.000 That is the story that the left would like to tell.

00:11:08.000 And they've facilitated that story by obstructing federal law enforcement.

00:11:13.000 This is the game.

00:11:14.000 This is the game.

00:11:15.000 And then Kimmel goes on to lie about the circumstances under which, for example, Renee Goode was shot.

00:11:21.000 They won't even admit that it was a mistake.

00:11:25.000 I mean, they say that the Honda SUV Renee Good was driving was weaponized.

00:11:29.000 They say the gun Alex Predty had a license to carry in an open carry state.

00:11:33.000 All right, many of these same people screamed very loudly about when it was Kyle Rittenhouse carrying the gun, a gun that Alex Predty did not even draw, did not touch, a gun that was taken from him by one of the agents before he was shot dead by the other ones.

00:11:46.000 They fired 10 times on an ICU nurse.

00:11:49.000 They're telling us, well, it was justified.

00:11:51.000 You know, is that the law and order that you voted for if you voted for this?

00:11:57.000 Notice what he's doing there.

00:11:58.000 So he takes some fact and then he wraps a giant fiction around it.

00:12:02.000 So it is true that Renee Good, they claimed that she was a domestic terrorist.

00:12:07.000 DHS is true. 0.98

00:12:08.000 They did the same thing with Alex Predty.

00:12:10.000 This is why I said at the very top that failures inside the Trump administration have made Democrats' job easier for them in order to shut down law and order.

00:12:20.000 But notice how he wraps that into a generalized critique of all law and order in the United States and the suggestion that the only possible solution is to simply allow our immigration law to go unenforced.

00:12:31.000 My wife and I have family in Minneapolis who are afraid to take their kids to school.

00:12:35.000 They're afraid to go to work.

00:12:36.000 And I can only imagine how people who aren't white feel about this.

00:12:40.000 How does this end?

00:12:41.000 What's the plan here?

00:12:42.000 Is the plan to just keep doing this in every city that didn't vote for Donald Trump?

00:12:48.000 Does anyone on any side believe this is good leadership?

00:12:52.000 What he is doing there is also a lie, right?

00:12:54.000 This is only happening in blue cities because blue cities are the places that are not working with ICE.

00:12:59.000 Red cities are working with ICE, so it's not a problem.

00:13:02.000 Blue cities are not working with ICE, so it is a problem.

00:13:05.000 Okay, now, this is all incredibly frustrating to watch if you are attempting to be objective-minded about the very difficult realities of enforcing the law and you recognize that there has been a mechanism set up by blue states in order to obstruct the enforcement of that federal law and that the people attempting to enforce that law are then blamed when things go wrong.

00:13:23.000 It's deeply, deeply frustrating.

00:13:26.000 The problem is that frustration does not change the fact with regard to public opinion.

00:13:31.000 When it comes to public opinion, because of the ugly pictures on the TV, as I warned last week, when you look at those ugly pictures on your TV, opinions on whether people want to see the operations continue drop.

00:13:43.000 So CNN's Harry Enton looked at this.

00:13:45.000 He says this is turning into a political disaster area for President Trump.

00:13:49.000 ICE, DHS, Christy Noam have been a political disaster because just take a look here.

00:13:55.000 I mean, ICE is not approval rating during Trump's term.

00:13:57.000 You go back to term number one.

00:13:59.000 Look, it was pretty even at zero points.

00:14:01.000 You go to June 2025, right?

00:14:03.000 That was when all that stuff was going on in Los Angeles.

00:14:06.000 They dropped down.

00:14:07.000 Look at this, minus 17 points way in the basement.

00:14:10.000 But then after Minneapolis, it's even lower, minus 27 points on the net approval rating of ICE.

00:14:18.000 Of course, this all being done under Christy Noam.

00:14:21.000 So, no, what's going on in Minneapolis is not popular at all.

00:14:25.000 What's been going on during this second term under ICE, under the Trump administration, under Christy Noam, has very much not been popular, and it's only begetting more and more unpopular.

00:14:34.000 Okay, so this is why yesterday the Trump administration attempted to change course.

00:14:40.000 The way they attempted to change course is by honestly assessing what has been going on, recognizing that there are people attempting to obstruct the law and also attempting to change some of the staffing decisions that they have made with regards to who heads up very contentious efforts.

00:14:54.000 And these are the right moves by the Trump administration.

00:14:56.000 I encourage them to do this actually yesterday on the show.

00:15:00.000 So yesterday, Caroline Levitt was asked about Alex Pretty because obviously Secretary of Homeland Security Christy Noam had suggested he was a domestic terrorist, who was attempting to inflict mass casualties.

00:15:13.000 The same line was trotted out by Gregory Bovino, who is the official in charge of border patrol agents in Minneapolis.

00:15:19.000 President Trump was asked about that earlier in the day yesterday, and he refused to give a green light to that description.

00:15:27.000 And so Caroline Levitt over at the White House did the same.

00:15:30.000 On Stephen Miller's comments, will Stephen Miller be apologizing to the family of Alex Pritty for calling him, quotes, an assassin who tried to murder federal agents, despite the fact that, as you say, this is still under investigation.

00:15:43.000 Again, this incident remains under investigation, and nobody here at the White House, including the President of the United States, wants to see Americans hurt or killed and losing their lives in American streets.

00:15:55.000 And we mourn for the parents.

00:15:57.000 As a mother myself, of course, I cannot imagine the loss of life, especially losing one's child.

00:16:04.000 And that same empathy from the president goes for the parents of angel families, parents of victims of illegal alien crime across our country as well.

00:16:15.000 And that's exactly why the president continues to be wholeheartedly committed to deporting the worst of the worst criminals from our country.

00:16:22.000 Okay, but the thing she doesn't do there is defend Stephen Miller's language in calling Alex Predi a potential assassin, or the language of Gregory Bavino, or the language of Christy Noam.

00:16:31.000 And then she says, what is obviously true?

00:16:33.000 Obeying law enforcement used to be a sort of normally accepted part of American life.

00:16:37.000 This is true, of course.

00:16:39.000 They have also used their platforms to encourage left-wing agitators to stalk, record, confront, and obstruct federal officers who were just trying to lawfully perform their duties, which has created dangerous situations threatening both these officers and the general public and Minnesotans alike.

00:16:58.000 This is precisely what unfolded in Minneapolis on Saturday morning.

00:17:02.000 Obstructing federal law enforcement and inciting violence against officers is wrong and illegal.

00:17:08.000 This used to be a universally accepted position in the United States.

00:17:13.000 So, of course, that is true.

00:17:15.000 And then she added that President Trump is fulfilling the will of the people when it comes to deporting criminal illegal immigrants. 0.90

00:17:22.000 Again, notice the focus, criminal, illegal immigrants, illegal immigrants who have committed another crime. 0.94

00:17:27.000 As the duly elected president, the president is fulfilling the will of the people by arresting and removing these threats from our country in cities from Los Angeles to New York and, yes, Minneapolis.

00:17:39.000 Yet Democrat leaders in Minnesota with sanctuary city policies have actively defied federal immigration law and the will of the people.

00:17:48.000 And as a result of that defiance, two Minnesotans have now tragically lost their lives on the streets.

00:17:55.000 Okay, again, this description is how the Trump administration should have been covering this in the first place.

00:18:00.000 And then she laid out President Trump's path to restoring order in Minneapolis, all of which is the policy that should be followed.

00:18:08.000 And he has outlined a clear and simple path to restoring law and order in Minnesota.

00:18:14.000 Number one, Governor Waltz Mayor Fry and all Democrat leaders should turn over all criminal illegal aliens currently incarcerated in their prisons and jails to federal authorities, along with any illegal aliens with active warrants or known criminal histories for immediate deportation.

00:18:32.000 Number two, state and local law enforcement must agree to turn over all illegal aliens who are arrested by local police.

00:18:41.000 And then thirdly, local police must assist federal law enforcement in apprehending and detaining illegal aliens who are wanted for crimes, especially violent crimes.

00:18:52.000 If Governor Waltz and Mayor Fry implement these common Common sense cooperative measures that I will add have already been implemented in nearly every single other state across the country.

00:19:04.000 Customs and Border Patrol will not be needed to support ICE on the ground in Minnesota.

00:19:08.000 ICE and local law enforcement can peacefully work together as they are effectively doing in so many other states and jurisdictions.

00:19:16.000 Additionally, President Trump is calling on the United States Congress to immediately pass legislation ending sanctuary cities once and for all.

00:19:25.000 Hey, this is good policy, and this is the policy the Trump administration should be pursuing.

00:19:29.000 They're also, again, changing some of the personnel who are in charge of implementing this policy.

00:19:34.000 Instead of essentially leaving this in the hands of Christy Noam over at DHS, who I think has not done a good job, as I've made clear over and over, or Gregory Bovino, who seems to not be PR wise or capable of handling difficult situations like this, he is sending the person who should have been in charge all along, the Borders Are Tom Homan, who since the beginning of this has been the law and order, let the full investigations take place.

00:19:57.000 We're enforcing the law guy.

00:19:58.000 Tom Homan has always been the adult in the room on this policy.

00:20:02.000 According to the Washington Post, Caroline Levitt said that Trump maintains full confidence in Christy Noam, but he is sending Tom Homan to Minneapolis, and Homan will report directly to the president.

00:20:15.000 He is taking over from Greg Bovino, the Border Patrol commander, who's been the face of the operation in Minneapolis, as well as previous forays into LA and Chicago.

00:20:24.000 Levitt said that Bovino will continue to lead operations around the country, but this is pretty clearly a demotion.

00:20:30.000 According to the Atlantic, Gregory Bovino has been removed from his role as Border Patrol Commander at large and will instead return to his former job in El Centro, California, and he is expected to retire soon.

00:20:40.000 That's according to the Atlantic.

00:20:41.000 Again, kind of disputed reports from the Trump administration on all of that.

00:20:47.000 Now, this also comes amid President Trump changing some of his language with regard to, for example, Tim Walz.

00:20:54.000 So yesterday, the president put up a statement on Truth Social, quote, Governor Tim Walz called me with the request to work together with respect to Minnesota.

00:21:01.000 It was a very good call, and we actually seem to be on a similar wavelength.

00:21:05.000 I told Governor Walls I would have Tom Homan call him and that what we're looking for are any and all criminals that they have in their possession.

00:21:11.000 The governor very respectfully understood that and I was speaking to him in the near future.

00:21:15.000 He was happy that Tom Holman was going to Minnesota and so am I.

00:21:18.000 We have had such tremendous success in Washington, D.C., Memphis, Tennessee, and New Orleans, Louisiana, and virtually every other place that we have touched.

00:21:24.000 And even in Minnesota, crime is way down.

00:21:26.000 But both Governor Walls and I want to make it better, President Trump.

00:21:29.000 So that is President Trump being conciliatory toward Governor Walls.

00:21:32.000 Now, yesterday on the show, I recommended that actually he throw the issue in Walls' lap and say, listen, it's our job to enforce federal immigration law.

00:21:40.000 You tell us what we have to do and what you have to do to make sure that federal immigration law is enforced in the most efficient possible way, since you seem to think that you can both obstruct federal law enforcement and encourage people to obstruct federal law enforcement.

00:21:53.000 The president seems to think that he is going to win over Walls and Democrats more with honey than with vinegar, which is a fair approach. 1.00

00:22:03.000 The president then made a similar statement with regard to Jacob Fry of Minneapolis.

00:22:08.000 Quote, I just had a very good telephone conversation with Mayor Jacob Fry of Minneapolis.

00:22:11.000 Lots of progress is being made.

00:22:12.000 Tom Holman will be meeting with him tomorrow in order to continue the discussion.

00:22:15.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter.

00:22:18.000 Well, Tim Walz, for his part, then put out a statement afterward in which he said, quote, Governor Walls had a productive call with President Trump earlier today.

00:22:28.000 The governor made the case that we need impartial investigations of the Minneapolis shootings involving federal agents and that we need to reduce the number of federal agents in Minnesota.

00:22:35.000 The president agreed he would talk to his Department of Homeland Security about ensuring the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension is able to conduct an independent investigation, as would ordinarily be the case.

00:22:44.000 The president also agreed to look into reducing the number of federal agents in Minnesota and working with the state in a more coordinated fashion on immigration enforcement regarding violent criminals.

00:22:53.000 The governor reminded President Trump, the Minnesota Department of Corrections already honors federal detainers by notifying ICE when a person committed to its custody isn't a U.S. citizen.

00:23:01.000 There's not a single documented case of the department's releasing someone from state prison without offering to ensure a smooth transfer of custody.

00:23:07.000 Now, in a second, we'll get to the lie that is inherent there because there is a lie that is being told by omission in that statement by Governor Walls.

00:23:14.000 But clearly, what is happening here is the Trump administration is reorienting toward the better parts of the administration in terms of handling this and trying to de-escalate the situation.

00:23:24.000 Whether that de-escalation is possible is going to be at least in large part up to the state of Minnesota and the city of Minneapolis.

00:23:32.000 With that said, the Trump administration is doing the right thing by handing more power over to Tom Homan inside the administration.

00:23:37.000 Apparently, this has been a battle brewing internally inside the administration for quite a while.

00:23:42.000 According to Jenny Taylor, reporting for our Daily Wire, there have been dividing lines drawn inside the administration already.

00:23:48.000 On one side, Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noam, Border Patrol Commander Greg Bovino, and Corey Lewandowski, a top Trump advisor and temporary government employee who has had a long-rumored relationship allegedly with Christy Noam.

00:24:00.000 On the other side, our borders are Tom Homan and acting ICE director Todd Lyons.

00:24:04.000 Noam's camp is focused on aggressive and showy tactics, fiery press conferences, and Bavino marching through town with a squad of Border Patrol agents in tow and is fixated on increasing arrest numbers.

00:24:14.000 Homan side is focused on the quality of arrests and getting the worst criminals off the street, which they feel is a job best suited for ICE rather than Border Patrol.

00:24:22.000 And again, that split into the open when Noam and Bavino started making statements that were not backed by the facts with regard to the killings of Alex Predi and Renee Good.

00:24:33.000 Officials inside Noam's own department slammed her rush to judgment, according to sources who spoke with the Daily Wire.

00:24:39.000 One official said it was a horrible response.

00:24:41.000 Many people I've heard say it was unprofessional.

00:24:43.000 She doesn't know what she's doing.

00:24:45.000 The people in DHS are frustrated with Secretary Noam and the way DHS is handling the media.

00:24:49.000 The employees want a more professional response, not memes and one-liners.

00:24:54.000 So I highly doubt that the changes at the top of DHS have stopped.

00:25:00.000 It seems to me that Christy Noam's in a very vulnerable position, given her failures on this topic, among others.

00:25:07.000 And frankly, I think that that's appropriate.

00:25:08.000 I think that she has not done a credit to the president as DHS secretary, which is her job.

00:25:13.000 If you're a secretary working under the president at the pleasure of the president, then you really should be facilitating the success of his administration, not undermining it with photo ops and bad statements.

00:25:28.000 Noam, for her part, seems to be giving up the ghost to Homan. 0.78

00:25:31.000 She said on X Monday, it's good news for peace, safety, and accountability in Minnesota that Homan is going to Minneapolis.

00:25:37.000 Quote, I've worked closely with Tom over the last year.

00:25:40.000 He's been a major asset to our team.

00:25:41.000 His experience and insight will help us in our wide-scale fraud investigations, which have robbed Americans and will help us to remove even more public safety threats and violent criminal illegal aliens off the streets of Minneapolis.

00:25:51.000 We continue to call on the leadership in Minnesota to allow for state and local partnership in our public safety mission.

00:25:57.000 So, again, we'll have to see how far the fallout goes.

00:26:00.000 House Democrats are looking at Christy Noam for possible impeachment.

00:26:05.000 Apparently, they are set to open an investigation as early as next week.

00:26:09.000 Democrats are going to conduct their investigation, according to the Washington Post, without the majority party.

00:26:15.000 They acknowledge they're unlikely to remove Noam in the short term, but they want to signal, obviously, to their own constituents that they are taking the problems with Noam and with DHS and with this entire illegal immigration cleanup operation seriously.

00:26:28.000 Which brings us to the Democrats.

00:26:30.000 So, Democrats are clearly sensing blood in the water here.

00:26:32.000 They clearly sense momentum.

00:26:34.000 They do, which is why this entire chaos operation run by the Democrats is a disaster area.

00:26:40.000 If you can politically win by obstructing federal law, that is a massive problem.

00:26:43.000 It's a massive problem.

00:26:45.000 And it's why the president is right to seek conciliation, but obviously conciliation with red lines.

00:26:50.000 Federal law must be enforced.

00:26:52.000 And if the state of Minnesota and the city of Minneapolis refuse to allow the enforcement of actual federal law, then we have an impasse.

00:27:01.000 I think the president is right to replace Noam with Homan in this position.

00:27:05.000 Homan, again, is the adult in the room.

00:27:07.000 And I think that the president is not wrong to reach out to Walls, but I think that has to be the predicate to an actual conversation with Walls because Walls is fibbing now.

00:27:14.000 So Walls put out an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal in which he suggested federal officials are lying.

00:27:22.000 He said the Trump administration's assault on Minnesota long ago stopped being a matter of immigration enforcement.

00:27:27.000 It is a campaign of organized brutality against the people of our state.

00:27:30.000 It isn't just.

00:27:31.000 It isn't legal.

00:27:32.000 And critically, it isn't making anyone safer.

00:27:34.000 Okay, now, again, the notion this is a campaign of organized brutality against all the people of Minnesota is a lie.

00:27:39.000 It is untrue.

00:27:40.000 And this sort of posturing from Walls is utterly inappropriate, utterly inappropriate.

00:27:46.000 Immigration law is enforced or should be enforced.

00:27:49.000 There's a duty to enforce it under the law by every executive branch head.

00:27:53.000 Every president has a duty to enforce immigration law.

00:27:55.000 Just because Joe Biden refused to do it doesn't mean he now duty to do it.

00:27:59.000 Donald Trump is doing the thing that all these other presidents said they were going to do.

00:28:04.000 And it is, in fact, the job of state and local officials not to get in the way.

00:28:08.000 So what Homan does, he says that he's working with the feds, but he isn't really, isn't really, because there is a fundamental lie that is being told here.

00:28:15.000 So Walls says the pretext for all this is the Trump administration's insistence that our immigration laws would otherwise go unenforced.

00:28:22.000 This federal occupation of Minnesota is, administration officials insist, about our predilection for releasing violent criminal illegal aliens from state custody.

00:28:29.000 I can't stress this enough.

00:28:31.000 The Trump administration has its facts wrong about Minnesota.

00:28:34.000 And then Walls claims the administration claims that Minnesota jails release the worst of the worst.

00:28:38.000 In reality, the Minnesota Department of Corrections honors all federal and local detainers by notifying ICE when a person committed to its custody isn't a U.S. citizen.

00:28:46.000 There's not a single documented case of the department releasing someone from state prison without offering to ensure a smooth transfer of custody.

00:28:54.000 Yet the lies persist.

00:28:55.000 This week, ICE tweeted that rural Cottonwood County had refused to honor a detainer for an alleged child.

00:29:00.000 That's not true.

00:29:01.000 The county sheriff followed procedure and contacted ICE when the subject posted bail, but ICE agents were too busy wreaking havoc in the Twin Cities to do their actual job and pick the prisoner up. 0.88

00:29:11.000 Some of the administration's claims are ridiculous on their face.

00:29:13.000 For example, it claims 1,360 non-U.S. citizens are in Minnesota prisons.

00:29:17.000 The truth, our total state population in the prisons is roughly 8,000.

00:29:21.000 Only 207 of them are non-citizens.

00:29:24.000 And then the administration, he says, published what it claimed was a list of people who have been arrested as part of the ICE sweep, asserting this list represents the worst of the worst criminals, implying we have been protecting them from capture.

00:29:36.000 Minnesota Public Radio investigated and found most had been transferred to ICE custody at the end of their time served in Minnesota prisons.

00:29:42.000 And then he says, everyone wants to see our immigration laws enforced.

00:29:45.000 This isn't what's happening in Minnesota.

00:29:46.000 Okay, so here is the problem.

00:29:48.000 Here is the lie.

00:29:51.000 Yes, it is true that Minnesota on the state level, the State Department of Corrections, honors ICE detainers.

00:29:58.000 But you know who doesn't in Minnesota?

00:30:00.000 City and county jails.

00:30:01.000 They do not honor ICE detainers.

00:30:04.000 So, in effect, Walls is pointing out that if you go to prison having committed a crime and being convicted, then they will honor an ICE detainer.

00:30:12.000 But if they pick you up for sexual assault before you've gone through all of the rigmarole of a trial, they will not notify ICE.

00:30:20.000 If they pick you up for an alleged, ICE is not notified.

00:30:24.000 And so unless the case goes all the way through to conviction and then time in the jail system, ICE is not notified.

00:30:30.000 Well, there are an awful lot of people who have experiences with law enforcement who don't end up going to jail, who ends up with traffic violations, multiple traffic violations.

00:30:39.000 This is why you'll see people with a record as long as your arm who've been picked up by the police over and over and over, who never ended up in the State Department of Corrections.

00:30:47.000 They never went to actual prison.

00:30:49.000 They were in jail temporarily and then they posted bail or they were released or whatever it is.

00:30:54.000 That is a much larger number than the number of people who end up in the State Department of Corrections.

00:30:58.000 President Trump and ICE are asking for people to work with ICE to allow for the deportation of migrants who are arrested for crimes.

00:31:07.000 According to CBS News, the jurisdictions of Minneapolis and St. Paul will not hold someone for ICE because they say they lack the legal authority to detain people on ICE detainers, which are administrative warrants, not judicial warrants.

00:31:19.000 But that's not true.

00:31:20.000 It happens all over the country.

00:31:21.000 Not only that, the Minnesota Secretary of State, Steve Simon, according to care11.com, has refused all requests for driver records, Medicaid data, at voter rolls, citing privacy laws.

00:31:32.000 So they're attempting to block fraud investigations, for example, into illegal immigrants.

00:31:37.000 Meanwhile, Keith Ellison, the attorney general of the state, wrote that DHS's operations in Minnesota were, quote, a federal invasion and cited the administration's fraud claims as a pretext for political targeting because of the viewpoints of the state's leaders.

00:31:50.000 So Walls is attempting to kind of, you know, edge around the reality of the situation.

00:31:55.000 Again, this is an issue that came up when I was talking with Governor Gavin Newsom of California.

00:31:59.000 He made the same claim: oh, no, we work with ICE all the time.

00:32:01.000 Well, then, what is the point of you being a sanctuary state?

00:32:04.000 What does that designation mean?

00:32:07.000 And the answer is: what the designation means is that they will not work with ICE unless the person is full-on in the Department of Corrections.

00:32:14.000 That's what it means.

00:32:15.000 And sanctuary cities will not allow, for example, their police departments to gather immigration data on the people that they arrest, which is a massive problem.

00:32:25.000 It is a huge, huge problem.

00:32:28.000 And it means that people who are repeat criminals are, in fact, being allowed back onto the streets if they don't do actual hard prison time.

00:32:36.000 If there's a plea agreement that ends with house arrest, or if there is some sort of fine that is paid, those people just end up back on the streets and ICE is never notified.

00:32:44.000 So, this is where the Trump administration is going to have to be careful.

00:32:47.000 Now, maybe they go for the titular victory here.

00:32:49.000 Maybe they say, well, you know, Tim Walz has given up the ghost.

00:32:52.000 He's no longer going to pursue his sanctuary state policies with such alacrity.

00:32:56.000 We seem to have come to an agreement.

00:32:57.000 They look for an off-ramp.

00:32:58.000 That's possible politically here.

00:33:00.000 But again, if the message that comes out of this for Democrats is to obstruct federal law and get away with it, that is going to be a massive problem.

00:33:07.000 And by the way, that does seem to be what Democrats are aiming for.

00:33:12.000 So it's quite possible here that Democrats win the battle but lose the war, meaning that if they win the battle against ICE, if they get Americans to briefly see ICE as the problem and illegal immigration as a secondary issue, if they get all of that to happen in the short term, that may not be the result in the long term.

00:33:30.000 We saw the same exact thing happen in 2020 when the police briefly were treated as an invading army by the Democrats.

00:33:37.000 And for a moment, the police were wildly unpopular.

00:33:39.000 And then it turns out that when you do that, crime rates radically skyrocket and people get mad.

00:33:44.000 And then they don't like the Democrats for that, which is why the Democrats have been underwater on the immigration issue and also on policing for years on end.

00:33:50.000 So Democrats theoretically here could win the battle against the Trump administration in Minneapolis, but lose the war politically.

00:33:57.000 So again, Democrats seem to want to take this too far.

00:33:59.000 As always, when the pendulum swings, it always swings too far in one direction.

00:34:04.000 RoConna, who wants to run for president for some odd reason, the Democrat from California, he was out there on the streets of Minneapolis pandering.

00:34:13.000 The New York Post is saying this has gone too far.

00:34:16.000 You know, it's gone too far.

00:34:18.000 It's never gone too far.

00:34:19.000 Killing American citizens. 0.91

00:34:21.000 I mean, no one signed up for this. 0.95

00:34:22.000 No one who voted for him thought they would be killing a 37-year-old American nurse.

00:34:27.000 It's tiresome.

00:34:28.000 Again, this is what's so annoying about this situation.

00:34:30.000 Many things can be true at once.

00:34:31.000 The Trump administration is right to want to enforce the law.

00:34:34.000 The Secretary of Homeland Security and the Border Patrol Chief botched the handling of bad situations.

00:34:40.000 Democrats have set up a chaos operation to obstruct federal law.

00:34:44.000 Our legacy media and Democratic politicians are attempting to facilitate the obstruction of federal law.

00:34:50.000 Like all those things can be true at once, and also it can be politically advantageous for Democrats.

00:34:54.000 I wish that weren't true.

00:34:55.000 All of that is true.

00:34:56.000 But are Democrats going to go too far?

00:34:59.000 Probably.

00:35:00.000 Probably.

00:35:01.000 The only sane Democrat, again, is John Fetterman.

00:35:04.000 Again, I don't agree with Senator Fetterman when Fetterman says that the operations in Minneapolis should end, but he also opposes, for example, a government shutdown over ICE.

00:35:13.000 He put out a statement saying the operation of Minneapolis should stand down and immediately end.

00:35:17.000 It has become an ungovernable and dangerous urban theater for civilians and law enforcement that is incompatible with the American spirit.

00:35:23.000 He says, I believe our nation deserves a secured border and that we should also deport all criminal migrants. 1.00

00:35:28.000 I believe there needs to be a path to citizenship.

00:35:31.000 But then he says, I will never vote to shut our government down.

00:35:35.000 And he says that vote to shut our government down will not to fund ICE.

00:35:38.000 DHS already has $178 billion in funding from the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which I did not vote for.

00:35:43.000 I want a conversation on the DHS appropriations bill and support stripping it from the minibus.

00:35:48.000 It is unlikely that that will happen and our country will instead suffer another shutdown.

00:35:52.000 So again, Fetterman is trying to sort of have the baby here.

00:35:57.000 That is the, I think, most sane Democrat position that I've seen articulated, although obviously I disagree that, quote unquote, all operations should end in Minnesota.

00:36:05.000 That's just nullification of federal law.

00:36:07.000 Many more Democrats are going way further than Senator Fetterman.

00:36:10.000 So Governor Westmore, who wants to run for president, despite all of his protestations to the contrary, the governor of Maryland, he supports a government shutdown over ICE funding.

00:36:19.000 The idea that we should have a government shut down, it hurts my state more than any state in the country.

00:36:24.000 But I also know this.

00:36:26.000 We cannot continue to allow this funding of the 13th largest military force by funding in the world to continue to exist.

00:36:37.000 Meanwhile, Senator Chris Van Holland says the real domestic terrorists are in the White House.

00:36:42.000 This has become part of the disgusting White House cover-up of these killings.

00:36:47.000 They said the same thing about Renee Goode. 1.00

00:36:50.000 They really think the American people are stupid. 1.00

00:36:52.000 I mean, we can all see the videotapes. 1.00

00:36:54.000 We saw the videotapes with Renee Goode.

00:36:56.000 We've seen the videotape today with Alex Predi.

00:37:01.000 It is clear that Stephen Miller and this White House are engaged in a cover-up, and it's criminal to try to cover up a killing like this.

00:37:12.000 Look, the reality is that the real domestic terrorists, they're in the White House right now.

00:37:17.000 They're people like Stephen Miller.

00:37:18.000 They're people like Donald Trump.

00:37:20.000 They're the ones who are terrorizing the community, these communities, having nothing to do with public safety. 1.00

00:37:27.000 That's Senator Chris Van Holland of Maryland, who is indeed a stupid person. 0.99

00:37:32.000 He is the same person who went down to El Salvador to visit with Kilmar Obrego Garcia, as you recall, a man who was deported, having allegedly committed a wide variety of crimes, including domestic violence against his spouse. 0.99

00:37:44.000 So that is Chris Van Holland.

00:37:45.000 Again, Democrats are going to go too far in this direction.

00:37:47.000 That is very, very likely.

00:37:48.000 Ilhana Omar of Minnesota, she, of course, is going the furthest of anyone.

00:37:54.000 She says ICE is beyond reform.

00:37:56.000 She put out a tweet voting no on the DHS funding bill is the bare minimum.

00:37:59.000 Backing Christy Noam's impeachment is the bare minimum.

00:38:01.000 Holding law-breaking ICE agents legally accountable is the bare minimum.

00:38:05.000 ICE is beyond reform.

00:38:06.000 Abolish it, right?

00:38:07.000 So some Democrats, the most radical Democrats, are going all the way here.

00:38:12.000 Are Democrats going to follow that path, the sort of Zorin mamdonification of their party? 0.85

00:38:16.000 I think it's unlikely.

00:38:17.000 Instead, Democrats seem to be coalescing around a set of demands for the funding of DHS.

00:38:23.000 According to Axios, when Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer returns to Washington this week, he will have a growing block of Democrats demanding significant concessions from President Trump.

00:38:32.000 A group of around 10 Senate Democrats is coalescing around a list of demands for changes to the DHS, including requiring warrants for arrests.

00:38:38.000 They mean judicial warrants, not administrative warrants, and mandating that federal agents identify themselves.

00:38:43.000 Multiple sources said they also want to demand that DHS cooperate with state and local investigations into incidents like the shootings of Renee Good and Alex Preddy in Minnesota.

00:38:53.000 Some moderate Democrats might not be willing to go that far.

00:38:56.000 Presumably, that would be Senator Fetterman, for example, who doesn't want a government shutdown.

00:39:01.000 So it'd be interesting to see the Democrats fight it out over what is quote unquote enough for their base on this subject.

00:39:06.000 It is quite possible, as I said again, that Democrats are going to win the battle in Minneapolis, but lose the war as Americans actually reject their anti-law and order positioning in general, because there are lots of ugly pictures coming out of Minneapolis, and they're not all about ICE or border patrol.

00:39:23.000 Yesterday, local PD had to arrest protesters at a hotel who decided that they were going to vandalize the hotel, break in, harass people.

00:39:37.000 People being arrested again.

00:39:39.000 This is local PD.

00:39:41.000 Minneapolis PD arresting people.

00:39:51.000 I will say that one thing that we are watching across the country is a bored society, a truly bored society with a lot of young people with not enough to do, who are spending their days fulminating about basic law enforcement operations and deciding that heroism requires that they stand up in the streets against the allegedly jackbooted thugs. 0.57

00:40:13.000 And Democrats facilitating that sort of stuff will end in more violence.

00:40:15.000 It just will.

00:40:16.000 That is the reality.

00:40:17.000 The sort of unhinged language that's being used about law enforcement will end with more confrontations.

00:40:21.000 It will end with more death.

00:40:22.000 And I do not think that that is going to end with the Tom Homan deployment to Minnesota, so long as Democrats see the political gain in attempting to radicalize an entire youth population against law enforcement.

00:40:36.000 Okay, meanwhile, in cultural news, Kanye West has now apologized for his anti-Semitism in a full-page ad in the Wall Street Journal.

00:40:48.000 He basically says what we all suspected about Kanye and some of us ripped up and down for saying it at the time, which is that he suffers from bipolar disorder.

00:40:54.000 And because he's bipolar, he says crazy things.

00:40:57.000 And when he's on a manic high, he says things and he can't be stopped.

00:41:00.000 This has always been my take on Kanye West's anti-Semitism.

00:41:02.000 It doesn't justify the anti-Semitism, but his anti-Semitism and his craziness is significantly more justifiable than that of his sane followers, people who are not bipolar, who have decided to follow him down that primrose path because they see the clicks and the giggles and all of it.

00:41:18.000 Again, whether you choose to forgive somebody for their actions or not is up to you.

00:41:24.000 Certainly, I've always felt that Kanye West's mental illness, knowing people who are schizophrenic, knowing people who are bipolar, when people are in the throes of this mental illness, they say and do things that are truly unjustifiable, even by them.

00:41:41.000 That is just a reality of life.

00:41:43.000 And recognizing that truth doesn't obviate fighting anti-Semitism, obviously. 0.72

00:41:47.000 But again, I actually blame Kanye West a lot less than all the people who decided to host him on their podcast and treat him as a sane and rational human being or chop out sections of his schizophrenic nonsense in order to make him appear more rational to a broader population so that when he actually started spewing his Nazi trash, this suddenly seemed legitimate alongside all of his other commentary.

00:42:07.000 Or all the people who decided that he had now opened the Overton window to Nazism enough that they were then going to capitalize. 0.80

00:42:13.000 I blame those people much more than I blame a bipolar man who has always suffered with significant psychic breaks.

00:42:21.000 Again, I think Kanye is less to blame for this than a lot of the people surrounding Kanye, for sure, who continued to make money off of him and make clicks off of him and all of the rest.

00:42:30.000 His statement in the Wall Street Journal: he says, bipolar disorder comes with its own defense system denial.

00:42:35.000 When you're manic, you don't think you're sick.

00:42:37.000 You think everyone else is overreacting.

00:42:38.000 You feel like you're seeing the world more clearly than ever, when in reality, you're losing your grip entirely.

00:42:42.000 Once people label you as crazy, you feel as if you cannot contribute anything meaningful to the world.

00:42:46.000 It's easy for people to joke and laugh it off when, in fact, it's a very serious debilitating disease you can die from.

00:42:52.000 According to the WHO and Cambridge University, people with bipolar disorder have a life expectancy shortened by 10 to 15 years on average and a two to three times higher all-cause mortality rate than the general population.

00:43:03.000 So the scariest thing about this disorder is how persuasive it is when it tells you you don't need help.

00:43:07.000 It makes you blind, but you're convinced.

00:43:08.000 You have insight.

00:43:09.000 You feel powerful, certain, and unstoppable.

00:43:11.000 I lost touch with reality.

00:43:13.000 Things got worse the longer I ignored the problem.

00:43:15.000 I said and did things I deeply regret.

00:43:16.000 Some of the people I love the most, I treated the worst.

00:43:18.000 You endured fear, confusion, humiliation, and the exhaustion of trying to love someone who was at times unrecognizable.

00:43:23.000 Looking back, I became detached from my true self.

00:43:26.000 In that fractured state, I gravitated toward the most destructive symbol I could find, the swastika, and even sold t-shirts bearing it.

00:43:32.000 One of the difficult aspects of having bipolar type one are the disconnected moments, many of which I still cannot recall, that lead to poor judgment and reckless behavior that oftentimes feels like an out-of-body experience.

00:43:42.000 I regret and am deeply mortified by my actions in that state and am committed to accountability, treatment, and meaningful change.

00:43:48.000 It does not excuse what I did, though.

00:43:50.000 I'm not a Nazi or an anti-Semite.

00:43:51.000 I love Jewish people.

00:43:53.000 Again, bipolar people are bipolar, and recognizing that reality means that, yes, we should have sympathy for them.

00:44:01.000 I have zero sympathy for the people who decided that the worst excesses in which Kanye West was engaging were somehow justifiable or good or brilliant insights. 0.95

00:44:12.000 Those people being sane, cynical, and disgusting. 0.79

00:44:16.000 That's the part that is truly egregious and unforgivable, not the ramblings of somebody who clearly has a mental disorder and who has admitted as much. 0.95

00:44:24.000 Some of us said this at the time, several years ago, I will point out. 0.72

00:44:29.000 And meanwhile, speaking of people who are unhinged, but like, you know, not crazy, just politically unhinged. 1.00

00:44:35.000 I don't know why Democrats have decided that their response to Joe Rogan is an obnoxious white lady who just says crazy shit. 1.00

00:44:41.000 It's confusing to me. 1.00

00:44:42.000 So Jennifer Welch is apparently the hot new thing, I guess. 1.00

00:44:48.000 Hold is Jennifer Welch.

00:44:49.000 I don't think that any of those descriptors actually apply. 0.98

00:44:52.000 In any case, here she was yesterday suggesting that white evangelical Christianity is a cancer. 0.99

00:44:57.000 White evangelical Christianity is a cancer. 1.00

00:45:01.000 These are the worst of our country. 1.00

00:45:06.000 These are the worst people in our country because they use their religion in two ways as a weapon and as a shield. 1.00

00:45:12.000 They weaponize it whenever they want to and say, we're on the moral high ground. 1.00

00:45:17.000 You're a lesbian. 1.00

00:45:18.000 You deserve to die. 1.00

00:45:19.000 You're a lesbian. 1.00

00:45:20.000 The cops shouldn't have revived you. 1.00

00:45:22.000 Oh, your parents are Mexicans and they brought you over here. 1.00

00:45:26.000 Yeah, you should go to jail and eat worm food. 0.99

00:45:29.000 And then when you call them out on it, oh my God, they're after the Christians. 1.00

00:45:35.000 How dare they?

00:45:36.000 How dare they?

00:45:38.000 We're so oppressed. 0.97

00:45:39.000 White Christians are so oppressed in this country. 1.00

00:45:42.000 God, these obnoxious. 0.99

00:45:43.000 Okay, this is a great way to win back, men.

00:45:45.000 Great job, Democrats.

00:45:46.000 Really excellent stuff.

00:45:47.000 That seems very, very rational and well articulated.

00:45:52.000 If this is the direction Democrats want to go, if this is their response, which is to, I guess, drive harbor into the wine non-moms with this sort of appeal, good luck to them. 0.93

00:46:03.000 On the economic front, meanwhile, it turns out that Obamacare is a giant fail.

00:46:09.000 So a brand new article from the Wall Street Journal points out that Obamacare has actually now started to cost people more than their mortgage.

00:46:18.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, millions of Americans are starting to see their monthly health insurance bills rise, a new pressure point for a nation still frustrated with the high cost of living.

00:46:26.000 Expanded subsidies, again, for Obamacare expired on December 31st.

00:46:30.000 Now those newly calculated insurance bills are coming due.

00:46:33.000 Americans are having to figure out how to pay up or go without.

00:46:37.000 So Lenny and Mandy Wilson, who are 47 and live in Charleston, West Virginia, paid $255 a month last year for a low-end ACA plan.

00:46:44.000 Last year, they learned their bill would be going up to $2,155 a month.

00:46:49.000 That is a sum nearly triple their monthly mortgage payment.

00:46:51.000 So great job, Obamacare, again, which continues to have to survive on the basis of federal subsidies and taxpayer dollars, gigantic infusions of taxpayer dollars.

00:47:02.000 Now, will that blow back on Republicans?

00:47:04.000 Again, this is the beauty of Democratic programs.

00:47:06.000 When you fail, you simply blame lack of spending on the Republicans, which is why you've seen some Republicans in moderate states call for a temporary revision of the subsidies, at least for a year or two, while other measures are implemented that bring down costs.

00:47:20.000 That's sort of the transitional plan here.

00:47:22.000 Suffice it to say, as always, Democratic subsidized programs end up costing people a gigantic sum of money.

00:47:29.000 And the only way out of it is further subsidization.

00:47:33.000 That is the only way.

00:47:35.000 No wonder then that voters feel less and less secure.

00:47:40.000 According to a brand new New York Times Sienna poll, asked what they feel is affordable.

00:47:46.000 It's sort of fascinating.

00:47:48.000 All of the areas that are most subsidized by the government are the areas that are least affordable, according to Americans.

00:47:54.000 That is not a coincidence because every area of American life subsidized by the government, the price has gone up radically.

00:47:59.000 Education, 58% say unaffordable.

00:48:02.000 Housing, largely subsidized by the government, 54% say unaffordable.

00:48:07.000 Healthcare, subsidized by the government, 47% say unaffordable.

00:48:12.000 When you get to say groceries, 28% say unaffordable, which, again, groceries are up because of inflation.

00:48:20.000 But groceries are plentiful and you can still get them.

00:48:23.000 And again, compared to the sort of cost of food historically, you can get a lot, even though the prices are really, really inflated.

00:48:32.000 Transportation, 22% say unaffordable, as opposed to 47% who say somewhat affordable, and 28% who say mostly affordable.

00:48:42.000 So the pressures are all in the areas that the government has stuck its grubby fingers into.

00:48:47.000 And the Democratic solution, as always, and this is the mistake that you see Republicans making too, is that government solves that problem.

00:48:52.000 Government does not solve that problem.

00:48:54.000 Government creates that problem.

00:48:56.000 Have a transitional plan and get the government out of these programs.

00:48:59.000 A transitional plan for the people who are in trouble and the people who are reliant on the subsidies, and then create better incentive structures because capitalism makes things more plentiful and cheaper.

00:49:09.000 And government subsidization makes things more scarce and more expensive.

00:49:13.000 All right, folks, coming up, we'll get into the great California wealth exodus, people leaving California because of all of the bad policy over there.

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00:49:32.000 What was it like, Merlin, to be alone with God?

00:49:41.000 Is that who you think I was alone with?

00:49:47.000 Martin, I knew your father.

00:49:49.000 I am yet convinced that he was not of this world.

00:49:54.000 All men know of the great Taliesi.

00:49:58.000 You are my father.

00:49:59.000 Are the gods of war for my soul?

00:50:02.000 Princess Garris, savior of our people.

00:50:08.000 I know what the bull got offered you.

00:50:10.000 I was offered the same.

00:50:12.000 And there is a new pirate work in the world.

00:50:15.000 I've seen it.

00:50:18.000 A god who sacrifices what he loves for us.

00:50:20.000 We are each given only one life, singer.

00:50:23.000 No, we're given another.

00:50:28.000 I learned of Yazoo the Christ, and I have become his forward.

00:50:32.000 He's waiting on a miracle, and I think you can give him one.

00:50:36.000 Trust in Yezu. 0.87

00:50:37.000 He is the only hope for men like us.

00:50:40.000 Fate of Britain never rests in the hands of the Great Light.

00:50:43.000 Great Light, Great Darkness.

00:50:46.000 Such things mattered to me then.

00:50:48.000 What matters to you now, Mistress of Lies?

00:50:52.000 You, nephew.

00:50:57.000 The sword of the High King.

00:51:01.000 How many lives must be lost before you accept the power you were born to wield.

00:51:08.000 So clinging to the promises of a god who has abandoned you.

00:51:12.000 I cannot take up that sword again.

00:51:15.000 You know what you must do.

00:51:18.000 Great Light, forgive me.

The Ben Shapiro Show - January 27, 2026

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