The Ben Shapiro Show - Davos vs. The Rest Of Us

00:00:00.000 Well, this week, amidst all of the domestic political hubbub here in the United States, the World Economic Forum is happening over at Davos.

00:00:06.000 Now, why exactly is the World Economic Forum important?

00:00:10.000 Well, we have a video, a fact video over at YouTube you should check out for all the background on the WEF, but the short story is this.

00:00:17.000 In 1971, there was an organization that was established by a guy named Klaus Schwab, who is a German engineer, economist, and professor with a James Bond villain accent.

00:00:28.000 He created this organization so that heads of business and heads of state could talk over what he called stakeholder capitalism.

00:00:34.000 Stakeholder capitalism was a theory he was expressing that essentially suggested that if you owned a company, you ought not to answer to your shareholders.

00:00:44.000 If you managed a company, you ought not answer to profit margin or shareholders.

00:00:48.000 Instead, you ought to answer to every stakeholder in the world, meaning government, meaning people who didn't own stock in your company, meaning everyone.

00:00:57.000 Now, you might ask yourself, well then, exactly who are you accountable to?

00:01:01.000 Because it turns out that the rando who doesn't own shares in your company can't actually fire you or sell your stock or change anything about the way you run your company. 0.99

00:01:08.000 And the answer That Klaus Traub would give is, you are answerable to no one.

00:01:11.000 You, as the head of a company, should be like a king with his own little kingdom.

00:01:16.000 You, as the head of a company, you should be a lord, and the company acts as your fiefdom.

00:01:20.000 And you can pretend that you're acting in the name of the general will, but really what you are is some sort of prophet from on high brought to spread your values.

00:01:29.000 And this was the basis of stakeholder capitalism.

00:01:33.000 Now, this theory was promoted via what was called the European Management Symposium.

00:01:37.000 That's what the WEF was originally called in 1971.

00:01:40.000 By 1975, this thing grew so fast that 860 participants, including the CEOs and chairman of the largest European companies, started showing up.

00:01:49.000 And that same year, only four years after creation, the European Management Forum, the EMF, was now partnering with the United Nations.

00:01:57.000 According to the WEF website itself, after five years, the Forum had gained acceptance at the highest levels of business and government.

00:02:04.000 While not advocating policy or strategy, the Forum had become a respected organization that served as a valuable platform for business, government, civil society, and other stakeholders to confer and collaborate.

00:02:14.000 In 1987, the European Management Forum changed its name from the EMF to the WEF.

00:02:19.000 So what is the WEF today?

00:02:21.000 Well, it's the same thing except bigger, much more prominent.

00:02:24.000 10,000 people show up at the WEF every year.

00:02:26.000 But the people who are on stage, the people who are meeting in the back rooms, are all of the global influential people.

00:02:32.000 You're talking about the heads of major corporations and the heads of government.

00:02:35.000 And they all come to pat each other on the back and explore what they have in common.

00:02:39.000 What they have in common is a very peculiar set of values that you do not share with them.

00:02:43.000 It's a set of values that suggest that they are responsible for solving all of the world's problems.

00:02:48.000 What are those world problems?

00:02:49.000 Well, problems like war and peace.

00:02:51.000 They should collude and decide what system prevails Everywhere.

00:02:54.000 Problems like intolerance.

00:02:56.000 They should collude and decide what information you are capable of seeing and understanding.

00:03:00.000 Problems like the climate.

00:03:02.000 They will get together and they will restructure entire swaths of the global economy in order to fight back against climate change.

00:03:08.000 This is what they do.

00:03:09.000 And let's face it, this is a weird group of people.

00:03:11.000 Because the people at the top levels of power, particularly in the West, are a strange group of people.

00:03:17.000 They are disproportionately secular.

00:03:18.000 They are disproportionately of the political left.

00:03:20.000 They are people who do not have ties to traditional ways of life and traditional values.

00:03:25.000 They are also people who seem to have scorn for the culture that actually bore them and instead have embraced this peculiar notion of multiculturalism in which all cultures are created equal.

00:03:35.000 And that leads to this really sort of paternalistic and odd look at the WEF where people are walking in wearing $5,000 suits and $20,000 watches and then They are paying homage to poor Native Americans or natives of Europe or whatever who are showing up and breathing on them.

00:03:52.000 We'll get to more on this in just one second.

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00:04:52.000 Yesterday at the WF, for example, we had this bizarre spectacle of a native woman of some sort with her face painted, breathing on the heads of various company owners, heads of state, top-level bureaucrats. 0.94

00:05:06.000 Here's what it looked like.

00:05:07.000 It's weird.

00:05:11.000 I want my woman. 0.91

00:05:14.000 I want my woman. 0.91

00:05:15.000 My woman, why?

00:05:19.000 Why should I...

00:05:21.000 Oof! Oof! 1.00

00:05:23.000 Oof! 1.00

00:05:33.000 Uhhhh... what?

00:05:36.000 How'd you like to have this lady sneeze on your head? 1.00

00:05:39.000 I thought they all hated COVID, but apparently they love COVID.

00:05:43.000 But again, this is all part of the show.

00:05:45.000 They care about all of the stakeholders from the most remote natives to you, the people.

00:05:52.000 And so these kind of bane knockoffs, except in the corporate garb, They've come up with all sorts of interesting and weird ways to restructure the global system in order to run the thing, in order to control you.

00:06:04.000 This is presumably why the WEF and the World Health Organization were talking a lot over the course of this week about something they call Disease X. Now, let's be frank about this.

00:06:13.000 Obviously, every government has to have some sort of contingency plan in case the country gets hit by an epidemic.

00:06:18.000 Localities have such emergency plans, but the WHO botched COVID-19 so damned badly That the notion they have any sort of leg to stand on when they preach to the rest of the world about how exactly we should deal with a future pandemic, it starts to look less as though they are attempting to create a contingency plan and more like they're sort of wish-casting something like this into existence because they really love the levels of control.

00:06:43.000 So here was the head of the WHO Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.

00:06:47.000 who by the way basically just works for the government of China as we'll explore in just a moment,

00:06:52.000 talking about disease x and preparing the globe for disease x.

00:06:56.000 After we started putting a placeholder, you know, the first that came was in the disease x is covid.

00:07:09.000 So we have experience now and we are preparing based on that experience.

00:07:13.000 A lot of assessment has been done by independent panels and experts.

00:07:20.000 And based on the recommendation, we have already started many initiatives.

00:07:27.000 And then the other key in order to have better prepared and to address the disease X is the pandemic agreement.

00:07:34.000 The pandemic agreement can bring all the experience, all the challenges that we have faced and all the solutions into one.

00:07:43.000 And that agreement can help us to prepare for the future in a better way.

00:07:50.000 That's right.

00:07:50.000 All the people who failed so dramatically during COVID-19, who covered up for China.

00:07:54.000 And the WHO, remember, was a Chinese cutout. 1.00

00:07:57.000 China was actively hiding information from the rest of the world.

00:08:00.000 They knew this pandemic was spreading since about November of 2019, and they said nothing to the rest of the world.

00:08:05.000 Then they lied to the WHO that it was not being transmitted human to human.

00:08:08.000 And the WHO dutifully Repeated all that because they wanted to keep China in the fold, sponsoring the World Health Organization.

00:08:15.000 These same people are still insisting that they ought to run things going forward.

00:08:18.000 There is never any accountability because this is the beauty of a stakeholder system as opposed to a shareholder system.

00:08:23.000 When you own a share in a corporation, you have a vote.

00:08:26.000 When you have a stake in something, just broadly speaking, it kind of means nothing.

00:08:30.000 You don't have a stake in the WHO.

00:08:31.000 You don't have a share in the WHO.

00:08:32.000 You got no control over the WHO and that is what the WF is really about.

00:08:37.000 By the way, an exclusive from the Wall Street Journal.

00:08:40.000 Today, Chinese researchers isolated and mapped the virus that caused COVID-19 in late December

00:08:45.000 2019, at least two weeks before Beijing revealed details of the deadly virus to the world,

00:08:49.000 congressional investigators said, raising questions anew about what China knew in the

00:08:53.000 pandemic's crucial early days.

00:08:55.000 Documents obtained from the U.S.

00:08:56.000 Department of Health and Human Services by a House committee and reviewed by the Wall Street Journal show, a Chinese researcher in Beijing uploaded a nearly complete sequence of the virus's structure to a U.S.

00:09:04.000 government-run database December 28, 2019.

00:09:07.000 Chinese officials at that time were still publicly describing the disease outbreak in Wuhan as a viral pneumonia of unknown cause.

00:09:13.000 They still had not closed the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, site of one of the initial COVID-19 outbreaks.

00:09:19.000 And again, China continued to lie for like a full month that there was no dangerous human-to-human transmission.

00:09:25.000 The Chinese researcher who submitted the virus sequence, a Dr. Lily Ren of the Beijing-based Institute of Pathogen Biology, did not respond to an email seeking comment.

00:09:33.000 Well, you'll never hear of her again since her name has now been publicly reported in the press and China is an authoritarian, tyrannical government. 0.64

00:09:40.000 So, WHO did an amazing job, and naturally this means that we have to continue to include them in the world system.

00:09:46.000 All the people who botched it last time, we are going to keep them in control.

00:09:51.000 So, Disease X is one methodology of control.

00:09:55.000 Other methodologies of control, climate change.

00:09:58.000 So there's language that people on the left love to use when they're talking about controlling you, and that is the language of war.

00:10:03.000 The war on poverty is about controlling income.

00:10:05.000 It is about controlling redistribution of wealth.

00:10:09.000 The war on climate change is similarly about controlling exactly how you live your life.

00:10:14.000 This is why people in politics are constantly eager to use war language because in a war, you get to put your entire population on rations.

00:10:21.000 In a war, you get to draft people and put them in barracks.

00:10:24.000 In a war, you get to take control of literally everybody at all times, day and night.

00:10:28.000 This is why John Kerry is eager to talk about war.

00:10:31.000 He compares climate change to fighting Hitler.

00:10:34.000 This is over at the WEF.

00:10:38.000 And I'm here again today because I'm convinced that the only way we win this battle is by stepping up exponentially from where we are today and begin to treat this fight almost as if we're in a war.

00:10:55.000 I hate the war analogies because we get tired of them and they're probably overused, but unfortunately it's apt. 1.00

00:11:04.000 In World War II, when we needed to gain control over the skies and of the ocean and learn how to penetrate Hitler's defenses in order to win the Battle of Freedom, it was mid-level techs who made a lot of decisions that actually helped us win the war.

00:11:21.000 So again, that sort of language is the lever for exercising power.

00:11:26.000 Now there was one wonderful moment during the WEF.

00:11:29.000 Javier Mille, who has become my spirit animal, the president of Argentina, who is a colorful and wonderful economist, rock star, and just all around wolfman.

00:11:40.000 He was speaking at the WEF and he just laid into them and it was wonderful.

00:11:44.000 Do not surrender to the advance of the state.

00:11:48.000 The state is not the solution.

00:11:49.000 The state is the problem itself.

00:11:51.000 You are the true protagonists of this story.

00:11:55.000 And rest assured that as from today, Argentina is your staunch unconditional ally.

00:12:01.000 Thank you very much and long live freedom. 0.99

00:12:03.000 Damn it! 0.98

00:12:04.000 Today I'm here to tell you that the Western world is in danger. 0.99

00:12:10.000 And it is in danger because those who are supposed to have to defend the values of the West are co-opted by a vision of the world that inexorably leads to socialism and thereby to poverty.

00:12:25.000 Unfortunately, in recent decades, Motivated by some well-meaning individuals willing to help others, and others motivated by the wish to belong to a privileged caste, the main leaders of the Western world have abandoned the model of freedom for different versions of what we call collectivism.

00:12:47.000 Okay, this is great stuff and good for Javier Mille. 0.51

00:12:50.000 Going to the WEF and slapping people across the head is precisely what they deserve.

00:12:54.000 But it's not just a problem inside the WEF.

00:12:56.000 There are plenty of people in the United States who hold the same peculiar globalist vision in which the elites of society ought to construct pretty much everything up to and including the demographic shape of the United States.

00:13:06.000 That's the only reason I can think why we continue to futz around over America's southern border.

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00:14:14.000 So, apparently no compromises coming on immigration.

00:14:17.000 That's because the White House refuses to just pass H.R.

00:14:20.000 2.

00:14:21.000 2 is a strong on the border security bill from the House Republicans.

00:14:21.000 H.R.

00:14:24.000 Instead, they're proposing a series of changes that would remain extremely soft on illegal immigration.

00:14:30.000 Speaker Mike Johnson, to his credit, is refusing to go ahead with any sort of compromise border bill along the lines the Democrats are looking for, according to the New York Times.

00:14:38.000 Speaker Mike Johnson on Wednesday dug in against President Biden's efforts to revive stalled legislation to send aid to Ukraine, saying the Republican-led House would not entertain it unless Democrats agreed to a far more severe crackdown at the U.S.-Mexico border than they have been willing to consider.

00:14:51.000 He said, I told the president what I've been saying for many months.

00:14:54.000 It's that we have must have changed the border substance of policy change.

00:14:57.000 We must insist that the border be the top priority.

00:14:59.000 Well, Joe Biden had summoned the lawmakers in both parties to lecture them about Ukraine,

00:15:06.000 about the importance of repelling Russia's invasion.

00:15:08.000 But he refused to actually commit to any serious changes at the border.

00:15:14.000 Meanwhile, some of the Senate Republicans are ready to cut any sort of deal, apparently.

00:15:17.000 Senate Republicans said they are hopeful.

00:15:19.000 Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who's fairly soft on immigration, said the Senate could vote as soon as next week on a national security spending bill combining border measures with military assistance for Ukraine and Israel as well.

00:15:31.000 It seems to me that what is being proposed in the Senate is far too weak for Republicans in the House to sign on to.

00:15:40.000 So leading Senate Republicans are saying this is the best chance the GOP has had in years to secure serious border policy concessions from Democrats.

00:15:47.000 But I really doubt that.

00:15:48.000 I think that Joe Biden is willing to cave more than he has thus far.

00:15:52.000 So what exactly is being proposed at this point?

00:15:55.000 Well, it's something called the Dignity Act.

00:15:58.000 So, the so-called Dignity Act was originally brought up in 2023 by Representative Maria Elvira Salazar of Florida, who I know.

00:16:05.000 She's a delightful person, but she's wrong on this bill.

00:16:08.000 And other co-sponsors, including people like Veronica Escobar, Democrat of Texas.

00:16:13.000 And again, this is a fairly weak immigration bill.

00:16:17.000 It includes $25 billion for more border security like barriers and technology, and it does hire and train more personnel.

00:16:23.000 But with regard to asylum reform, it essentially says that there would be humanitarian campuses managed by CBP along the southern border where migrants would be held.

00:16:35.000 Asylum officers would then conduct asylum interviews and make final determinations on the campuses.

00:16:39.000 Migrants would have access to medical staff, licensed social workers, mental health professionals, child advocates, private organizations that provide humanitarian assistance and legal counsel.

00:16:47.000 Under that bill, within the first 15 days, the staff would provide an initial screening, including criminal background checks, biometric data, verify identification, conduct medical assessments, and migrants unable to establish a credible fear during an initial screening would be subjected to expedited removal from the United States.

00:17:06.000 Then, presumably, asylum seekers would theoretically be held for another 45 days, although it's unclear to me whether they would then be released into the United States, because otherwise things are just going to continue to swell at the border.

00:17:16.000 Obviously, one of the big problems here is how do you establish credible fear?

00:17:20.000 What exactly does credible fear look like from a migration official with The staff of these humanitarian campuses.

00:17:28.000 According to the bill, within 45 days of passing the initial credible fear interview, a trained US Citizenship and Immigration Services asylum officer would review the individual's asylum claim and make a final determination.

00:17:38.000 Asylum officers must deny, approve, or refer complex or uncertain cases to an immigration judge.

00:17:42.000 So basically, you would end up with the same sort of backlog that you currently have.

00:17:47.000 For those who are referred to an immigration judge, the bill would then create a system by which asylum seekers would receive a notice to appear and then be released from the humanitarian campus.

00:17:55.000 So, this would continue to maintain catch and release, it would just do so in a more delayed fashion than is currently being applied.

00:18:02.000 This is the reason why Republicans in the House are not willing to go forward with this.

00:18:07.000 It also creates worker status for illegal immigrants who are already here in the country.

00:18:11.000 It is a very, very soft bill.

00:18:14.000 Which is precisely, of course, what Republicans are saying.

00:18:16.000 It keeps the border open.

00:18:17.000 So the question is, why don't Democrats just cave?

00:18:20.000 Seriously, why don't they just cave? 0.86

00:18:21.000 Why don't they give Republicans more of what they want?

00:18:23.000 Get some sort of actual border compromise done in the bill.

00:18:25.000 They can go back to their base and say, listen, we needed the Ukraine funding.

00:18:29.000 We needed it.

00:18:30.000 And so we had to cave.

00:18:31.000 And then they could go to moderates and say, we actually did something to stop the flow at the border.

00:18:34.000 Instead, they keep doubling down on open borders rhetoric.

00:18:38.000 And then they're blaming Republicans for, quote unquote, not wanting to fix immigration.

00:18:41.000 That dog ain't going to hunt. 1.00

00:18:42.000 Joe Biden is the one who broke the immigration system beyond all repair.

00:18:45.000 Here's Kamala Harris, the incompetent vice president of the United States, blaming Republicans for failures on immigration. 0.99

00:18:51.000 Everyone knows our immigration system is broken. 0.90

00:18:54.000 OK.

00:18:54.000 Right.

00:18:56.000 The first bill that we dropped, the first bill that we offered right after inauguration, Was to fix the immigration system.

00:19:04.000 A comprehensive plan to deal with the immigration system.

00:19:08.000 Do you think they've taken it up?

00:19:10.000 No.

00:19:11.000 We want solutions.

00:19:13.000 The solutions are at hand.

00:19:15.000 But frankly, we're in an election year.

00:19:18.000 And the folks who want to return Donald Trump to the White House would prefer to talk about a broken immigration system instead of focusing on the solutions that are at hand and engaging in bipartisan work.

00:19:31.000 But the solutions that you want are an open border.

00:19:34.000 Again, they keep saying things like we need more processing at the border.

00:19:36.000 But what they really mean is they want to allow more people to use the asylum system to get into the country.

00:19:41.000 Until you change the actual rules with regard to who is adjudicated eligible for asylum, nothing is actually going to change.

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00:20:50.000 They keep trying to blame Republicans for this.

00:20:50.000 Democrats again.

00:20:52.000 I don't think that it is going to work.

00:20:53.000 Here's Karine Jean-Pierre, world's worst press secretary, doing the same thing. 0.99

00:20:57.000 How will the president receive that message today if Johnson says this is too complicated to do right now?

00:21:03.000 Making sure that we take care of our border is not too complicated.

00:21:07.000 It's not.

00:21:08.000 It's not.

00:21:08.000 If people come together in good faith, as they've been doing in the Senate, We can get this done.

00:21:14.000 We can get this done.

00:21:14.000 And let's not forget, the president actually put forth a comprehensive immigration proposal almost three years ago.

00:21:22.000 Almost three years ago.

00:21:23.000 We had three years.

00:21:24.000 Three years to work on something.

00:21:26.000 If that was what the Speaker Johnson is concerned about, we had three years to work on it.

00:21:30.000 I mean, and it was a terrible proposal.

00:21:33.000 You had three years to do something and you didn't do it.

00:21:36.000 And the reason you didn't do it is because it's a terrible proposal.

00:21:38.000 Now, why is that happening?

00:21:39.000 Why is that happening?

00:21:40.000 The answer is, back to the WF, there is, in fact, an agenda to do away with America's southern border.

00:21:46.000 And some Democrats are more clear about this than others.

00:21:48.000 So, for example, Democratic Representative Max Frost Who's in Florida.

00:21:53.000 He says that if you want H.R.

00:21:56.000 2, which is a way of solidifying the border, changing the rules with regard to asylum, for example, what you really want to do is destroy the Statue of Liberty. 0.93

00:22:03.000 This is my favorite stupid rhetoric, is this notion that the Statue of Liberty is somehow coincident with the Constitution of the United States. 0.94

00:22:09.000 It has some poetry on it, and that's it. 0.99

00:22:12.000 It does not dictate the policy of the United States being an open immigration policy.

00:22:15.000 That's absurd.

00:22:16.000 Here is this Democratic congressperson saying the quiet part out loud.

00:22:20.000 To my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, let's be honest with immigrants who deserve better than what you're offering them.

00:22:27.000 Don't welcome immigrants if you plan to reject them.

00:22:30.000 If you keep pushing your bigoted H.R.

00:22:33.000 2 bill, then also pass this bill.

00:22:35.000 I've taken the liberty of drafting it for you.

00:22:38.000 It removes The Statue of Liberty, our largest symbol that tells people to come here.

00:22:44.000 This is who you are, removing the fabric of America.

00:22:48.000 So I want to know which Republican who supports and voted for H.R.

00:22:52.000 2 will introduce this bill.

00:22:54.000 The only people tearing down statues, by the way, right now are Democrats.

00:22:57.000 So that is absurd.

00:22:59.000 Alexander Ocasio-Cortez, she of the weeping at the border over child separations, but only when Trump is president.

00:23:05.000 She is also saying the quiet part out loud, which is they do want the open borders.

00:23:08.000 They want those open borders and they want them bad.

00:23:11.000 Virtually every single member of this committee is here today as a result of, and thanks to, more open U.S.

00:23:20.000 immigration policies.

00:23:22.000 And the idea of slamming the door when we desperately need these migrants, when we desperately need it, and what we need is an orderly process. 1.00

00:23:32.000 It's not that we don't need or want folks to come, it's that we actually have to make it easier for these individuals to participate in our economy, Get a job, support themselves, and live the American dream.

00:23:44.000 And what this conversation is about, is about defending the American dream.

00:23:50.000 The American dream, presumably, is that there be no border whatsoever.

00:23:53.000 Now again, countries can have open immigration policies so long as their economies are not giant welfare economies, so long as there is the courage of your conviction with regard to assimilation into your culture.

00:24:05.000 You can have open borders under those circumstances.

00:24:07.000 That was, in fact, a policy of the United States in the late 19th century, that sort of thing was part of American policy and didn't destroy the country.

00:24:17.000 But once you had a welfare state, it changes all the math pretty dramatically.

00:24:21.000 And not only that, once you add on to that a multicultural notion that people don't have to learn English, but they don't actually have to learn American customs and ways of life.

00:24:31.000 Then, of course, the social fabric of the country is going to fray.

00:24:34.000 But AOC doesn't care about any of that.

00:24:35.000 She's perfectly happy to see the social fabric of the country fray, because she agrees with the basic premises of many of the people at the WF, that top-down administrative control over nearly every area of life is better for you, and that borders are parochial, borders are wrong.

00:24:49.000 Of course, it's the World Economic Forum, not the National Economic Forum.

00:24:53.000 Now, there's still some Democrats, or soon-to-be former Democrats, who acknowledge the reality about this.

00:24:59.000 Joe Manchin is one of them.

00:25:01.000 The senator from West Virginia, he says, well, of course the border is worse under Biden.

00:25:05.000 Everybody knows that.

00:25:07.000 That is absolutely false.

00:25:09.000 They are living in la-la land. 0.99

00:25:10.000 It's a disaster.

00:25:10.000 And they know it's a disaster.

00:25:12.000 and said, but Donald Trump did nothing at the border, and the border's better under Joe Biden.

00:25:17.000 Do you think that's a correct assessment?

00:25:19.000 That is absolutely false.

00:25:21.000 They are living in la-la land. 0.99

00:25:22.000 It's a disaster, and they know it's a disaster.

00:25:25.000 So let's fix it.

00:25:27.000 And the only thing I would implore the president to do, to consider this and to do it immediately,

00:25:31.000 if Congress cannot come together, because the perfect could be the enemy of the good,

00:25:35.000 you have Republicans that might wanna shut everything down, throw any type of immigration out the window,

00:25:43.000 and you have Democrats who might think everything's fine.

00:25:47.000 It's a disaster.

00:25:47.000 It's not fine.

00:25:48.000 It's dangerous.

00:25:50.000 And I would implore the President to declare a national emergency and secure our border immediately if Congress can't do something this week.

00:25:57.000 By the way, it is worth noting here that immigration is a top issue for both Democrats and Republicans in the upcoming election, which is just another reason why Donald Trump is running so durably against Joe Biden, despite all of his legal troubles, foibles, and myriad excesses.

00:26:11.000 Speaking of which, there's a brand new poll out of New Hampshire.

00:26:14.000 This is not a C-plus rated American Research Group poll.

00:26:17.000 This poll is from the St.

00:26:19.000 Anselm poll of likely voters, and it finds that Donald Trump currently has a 14-point lead on Nikki Haley in New Hampshire.

00:26:25.000 He is at 52%, Nikki Haley at 38%, and Ron DeSantis at 6%.

00:26:31.000 As I've suggested, I think that Trump has momentum.

00:26:33.000 I think, effectively speaking, just based on the data, the race for the GOP nomination is over.

00:26:38.000 But Democrats have no strategy, of course, to deal with Donald Trump other than simply targeting him as a human being.

00:26:44.000 This, of course, is Kamala Harris's plan. 1.00

00:26:45.000 Here she was yesterday suggesting that she is scared as heck. 0.92

00:26:48.000 She's running against the crazies, like, of course, Donald Trump.

00:26:52.000 What could happen if Trump ever became, God forbid, president again? 0.51

00:26:56.000 And what are you going to do to stop the crazies?

00:27:01.000 I am scared as heck, which is why I'm traveling our country.

00:27:06.000 You know, there's an old saying that there are only two ways to run for office, either without an opponent or scared.

00:27:13.000 So on all of those points, yes, we should all be scared.

00:27:18.000 But as we know, and certainly this is a table of very powerful women. 1.00

00:27:24.000 We don't run away from something when we're scared.

00:27:27.000 We fight back against it.

00:27:30.000 This is what we call a little bit of strength right here with the bouncing of the shoulders.

00:27:34.000 That's when you know that she's about to lay one on you real thick. 0.64

00:27:39.000 What's hilarious about all of this is, of course, if the entire pitch against Trump is leave our incompetence aside and focus in on the fact that Donald Trump is a big, bad, mean, orange man, that's not going to work.

00:27:49.000 Jamie Dimon, again, Jamie Dimon is not remotely a radical Republican.

00:27:54.000 The JPMorgan CEO, he was asked yesterday about Joe Biden's campaign chances.

00:27:58.000 He's like, Joe Biden's in a lot of trouble and demonizing MAGA Republicans is not going to help him.

00:28:04.000 And I think people should be a little more respectful of our fellow citizens.

00:28:07.000 And when you guys have people up here, you should always ask the why.

00:28:10.000 Not like it's a binary thing.

00:28:12.000 You support Trump, you're not supporting Trump.

00:28:14.000 Why are you supporting Trump?

00:28:15.000 It's hard to hate 75 million of your fellow Americans.

00:28:17.000 I agree.

00:28:18.000 And you know, the Democrats have done a pretty good job with the deplorables, hugging onto their Bibles and their beer and their guns.

00:28:25.000 I mean, really?

00:28:26.000 Could we just stop that stuff and actually grow up and treat other people with respect and listen to them a little bit?

00:28:32.000 I do think the economy will affect.

00:28:33.000 I think this negative talk about MAGA is going to hurt Biden's election campaign.

00:28:38.000 It's coming from Jamie Dimon.

00:28:39.000 Jamie Dimon is not some sort of wild right-winger.

00:28:41.000 He's wearing a Ukraine pin on the air while he's talking with MSNBC, talking about all of this.

00:28:47.000 Now, Democrats are banking, again, on Donald Trump's legal foibles to drag him down.

00:28:52.000 They're looking at polling, like the polling from Ipsos yesterday.

00:28:55.000 That polling found that if Donald Trump were convicted of a felony crime by a jury, that that might ding him in the polls.

00:29:02.000 So according to this poll, 59% of Americans say they would not vote for Donald Trump if he were convicted of a felony crime by a jury, as opposed to 25% who said that they would.

00:29:11.000 A majority of Republicans said they'd vote for Trump, 52 to 31, even if you were convicted of a felony crime.

00:29:16.000 Democrats, of course, split 86-8 against, but that's no shock.

00:29:19.000 They split 86-8 against Trump generally.

00:29:21.000 Independents are the ones who really shift. 1.00

00:29:23.000 66% say they would not vote for Donald Trump if convicted of a federal crime.

00:29:27.000 If he is currently in prison, Even 39% of Republicans say we're not going to vote for him if he is currently in prison.

00:29:33.000 62% of Americans overall say they would not vote for Donald Trump if he is in prison.

00:29:37.000 Now, the chance of him actually being in prison by the time we get to the election, I think, are incredibly low.

00:29:42.000 Like, very, very low based on appeals, based on the length of time it takes to actually do a trial.

00:29:48.000 I also think that some of these poll numbers about being convicted of a felony crime by a jury, I think most Americans don't even know what he's being charged with.

00:29:55.000 So the idea that he gets convicted of felony mishandling of classified documents and that a bunch of independents are like, oh, I won't vote for that guy anymore.

00:30:01.000 I just don't, I don't see that as being a real huge concern for the Trump campaign, particularly because there are a lot of obstacles that are coming down the pike for these various legal cases.

00:30:14.000 So, for example, as Politico points out, There is a case called Joseph Fisher v. United States, which the Supreme Court has agreed to hear in December.

00:30:23.000 It doesn't explicitly mention Donald Trump, but it could knock out a bunch of the January 6th charges against Trump.

00:30:29.000 At issue in that case is whether prosecutors and the Department of Justice have been improperly using a 2002 law originally aimed at curbing financial crimes to prosecute a January 6th defendant named Joseph Fisher.

00:30:39.000 Should the court side with Fisher, it would call into question the use of the same law against other January 6th defendants, including Trump.

00:30:45.000 Smith's indictment against Trump, again, carries four charges, four counts.

00:30:48.000 Two of those are for obstruction of an official proceeding and for conspiracy to do so, but that's all under Sarbanes-Oxley.

00:30:55.000 The Sarbanes-Oxley Act was originally designed to make it criminal to obstruct official proceedings of the U.S.

00:31:01.000 government in financial scandals.

00:31:04.000 Not with regard to, for example, the counting of the vote.

00:31:08.000 And of course, Donald Trump taking legal means, like filing lawsuits or calling people on the phone and saying, if you could theoretically get certified as an alternative state elector for your state, would you go and talk about that in Washington?

00:31:23.000 First of all, the crime may not be a crime.

00:31:24.000 Second of all, the crime in this particular case may be completely in the wrong category, and the Supreme Court could easily say Sarbanes-Oxley was never meant to apply to Donald Trump's January 6th activities.

00:31:36.000 As Politico says, the impact of Fisher on the January 6th trial against Trump might not be known until after the Supreme Court wraps up its term in June, at which point it could knock out half of Smith's counts against Trump.

00:31:46.000 Meanwhile, the other cases that are currently in play, like, for example, the Alvin Bragg case in Manhattan, that case is a joke.

00:31:54.000 That case is a joke.

00:31:56.000 Donald Trump right now is running an incredibly durable, even campaign against Joe Biden.

00:31:56.000 Think about it this way.

00:32:01.000 Right now, he is up in many of the polls.

00:32:03.000 He is in the middle of his second defamation trial with E. Jean Carroll, and he's yelling at the judge.

00:32:08.000 I mean, literally yelling at the judge, and no one cares.

00:32:12.000 Literally yesterday, there was an exchange between Trump and a judge named Louis Kaplan, in which the judge said, Mr. Trump has the right to be present here, but that right can be forfeited.

00:32:21.000 Mr. Trump, I hope I don't have to consider excluding you from the trial.

00:32:23.000 And Trump shot back, I would love it.

00:32:27.000 And Kaplan said, I know you would, I know you would.

00:32:29.000 You just can't control yourself in the circumstances, apparently.

00:32:32.000 It's hilarious!

00:32:33.000 And no one's going to care about that.

00:32:34.000 Like, seriously, how is that going to hurt Trump?

00:32:37.000 The answer is, it's not.

00:32:38.000 Because everything is baked into the cake.

00:32:40.000 As I've said for a while, every single thing is baked into the cake except for the circumstances of the United States.

00:32:46.000 And that is not in Donald Trump's control.

00:32:48.000 That is in Joe Biden's control.

00:32:49.000 And increasingly, it's looking very bad.

00:32:52.000 We'll get to more on that in just one second, particularly some economic news.

00:32:55.000 First, you may have noticed, we at The Daily Wire, we like biology.

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00:33:31.000 Okay, meanwhile, speaking of Joe Biden's economy, story out from the Wall Street Journal today, and it points out that we have a bunch of economic trains coming down those tracks.

00:33:41.000 And we are tied to those tracks.

00:33:43.000 Like, no.

00:33:44.000 It's not going to be great.

00:33:45.000 And Joe Biden is a very, very bad Dudley Do-Right.

00:33:48.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, the troubling commercial real estate market is bracing for a record amount of maturing loans, boosting the prospect of a surge in defaults as property owners are forced to refinance at higher rates.

00:33:59.000 In 2023, $541 billion in debt backed by office buildings, hotels, apartments, and other types of commercial real estate came due.

00:34:04.000 That's the highest amount ever for For a single year, according to data from TREP, commercial debt maturities are expected to continue rising, with more than $2.2 trillion coming due between now and the end of 2027.

00:34:15.000 Most of those loans have so far been repaid or extended.

00:34:18.000 In 2022 and 2023, many owners were able to exercise one- or two-year extensions built into their original loans, but those extensions are now burning off.

00:34:25.000 They are coming due.

00:34:26.000 That means many borrowers have to confront that higher-rate environment, and that is depressing property values.

00:34:32.000 So, what happens when a bunch of foreclosures happen?

00:34:35.000 Because people can't afford the higher commercial lending rates.

00:34:38.000 What happens then?

00:34:39.000 Well, it means some people are going to get laid off.

00:34:41.000 It means that inflated real estate prices are going to come down.

00:34:45.000 Because again, Joe Biden's economy was always inflated.

00:34:47.000 And what goes up must come down.

00:34:50.000 And of course, the problems are mounting for Joe Biden pretty much everywhere.

00:34:53.000 They are mounting with regard to Ukraine as well.

00:34:56.000 According to Tony Blinken, a ceasefire is nowhere in sight with regard to Ukraine.

00:35:01.000 Which is kind of amazing because just a couple of months into the war, a ceasefire was actually on the board and Vladimir Putin ended up backing away after further Ukrainian war action.

00:35:10.000 Here was Tony Blinken talking about how there is no ceasefire imminent in Ukraine.

00:35:16.000 Are we anywhere near any kind of negotiation, though, for a stable long-term ceasefire?

00:35:23.000 Look, in this moment, I don't see it.

00:35:27.000 We're always open to it, attentive to it, because more than anyone else, the Ukrainian people want this.

00:35:34.000 But there has to be a willingness on the part of Russia to engage, to negotiate in good faith, based on the basic principles that have been challenged by its aggression.

00:35:45.000 Well, good luck with that.

00:35:47.000 Meanwhile, top NATO officials are warning that things are going to get uglier before they get better in Ukraine.

00:35:51.000 According to the Associated Press, Ukraine is now locked in an existential battle for its survival almost two years into its war with Russia.

00:35:57.000 Western armies and political leaders must drastically change the way they help it fend off invading forces, according to a top NATO military officer on Wednesday.

00:36:04.000 As the war bogs down, with U.S.

00:36:06.000 and European Union funding for Ukraine's conflict-ravaged economy held up by political infighting, this NATO general is appealing for a whole-of-society approach to the challenge that goes beyond military planning.

00:36:15.000 He said we need public and private actors to change their mindset for an era in which everything was plannable, foreseeable, controllable, and focused on efficiency to an era in which anything can happen at any time.

00:36:24.000 Does that sound like a great pitch for Joe Biden's administration?

00:36:27.000 Like that's the bumper sticker?

00:36:28.000 Biden 2024?

00:36:30.000 Anything can happen at any time?

00:36:32.000 Does that make you feel a sense of quiescence?

00:36:34.000 An internal and internal solidity? Does that make you feel secure? I

00:36:39.000 mean, the answer is, of course not, because why would it? The world has become significantly

00:36:44.000 more chaotic under Joe Biden.

00:36:45.000 That is particularly true, obviously, not just in Ukraine, but also in the Middle East.

00:36:49.000 John Kirby has now been forced to make the unfortunate statement that removing the Houthis,

00:36:58.000 Just like consideration over these years?

00:36:59.000 list in 2021, which is just one of the things the Biden administration did to encourage 0.71

00:37:03.000 Iranian aggression, that that actually was not a stupid move. 0.76

00:37:06.000 He has to say that because now, of course, they are relisting the Houthis as a terror 1.00

00:37:09.000 group.

00:37:10.000 Here was John Kirby yesterday.

00:37:11.000 Was it a mistake to take them off of the terrorist list back in 2021, just like consideration

00:37:17.000 over these years?

00:37:18.000 No.

00:37:19.000 No, it was not a mistake to take them off.

00:37:21.000 We just had to put them back on.

00:37:22.000 But sure.

00:37:23.000 No, no, no.

00:37:24.000 It was no mistake at all.

00:37:25.000 Meanwhile, the Iranian foreign minister, Hossein Amir Abdullahian, he's openly threatening the United States, saying that if the United States is too unfriendly, then Iran will be unfriendly.

00:37:34.000 I noticed Iran being unfriendly in the Red Sea, in Pakistan, in Iraq.

00:37:39.000 In Syria, in Lebanon, in Northern Israel, in Southern Israel.

00:37:43.000 I noticed some unfriendliness from the Iranians, actually. 1.00

00:37:46.000 And meanwhile, the Biden administration is just running around like a chicken with its heads cut off, saying, well, we're just trying to cool the waters, cool the waters.

00:37:52.000 Can we put some more pressure on Israel to make some concessions to the power? 0.88

00:37:55.000 Just cool the waters.

00:37:56.000 Here's the Iranian foreign minister.

00:37:58.000 Again, this is the foreign minister of a country that is a second-rate power.

00:38:02.000 This does not mean the United States has to go to war with Iran.

00:38:04.000 It's just the United States should not be intimidated by Iranian proxies. 0.65

00:38:09.000 We have the largest and most able military force in the history of the world. 0.93

00:38:12.000 And we're being intimidated by, again, who these Hezbollah members, Hamas, it's ridiculous. 0.92

00:38:19.000 Here's the Iranian foreign minister threatening the world. 1.00

00:38:22.000 If they talk to us, treat us respectfully, we will do the same thing.

00:38:27.000 But anything unconstructive, the unfriendly, the behaviors of the United States, we will

00:38:36.000 retaliate to them.

00:38:37.000 It will be in the favor of the peace and security of the world if the United States would become

00:38:44.000 less hostile, would become cooperative instead of confrontational.

00:38:49.000 Oh, it's that the United States is confrontational.

00:38:53.000 Let it be known, by the way, that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps is responsible for 0.98

00:38:56.000 at least 2,000 deaths of American troops in Iraq.

00:38:59.000 Iran is the most nefarious force on planet Earth in terms of spreading its terror tentacles everywhere, and they're openly sitting there at Davos and threatening the world. 1.00

00:39:07.000 It really is an amazing, amazing thing.

00:39:08.000 By the way, the West, which is currently attempting to push Israel into some sort of ceasefire with Hamas in the bizarre notion that this is going to somehow buy off Iranian proxies, Hamas is making perfectly clear who they are every single day. 0.63

00:39:26.000 New tape has now emerged from October 7th of Hamas literally sawing at the necks of dead Israelis.

00:39:32.000 Like literally chopping the heads off dead Israelis, ISIS style.

00:39:36.000 But don't worry, these are people who should be left in power to fire rockets willy-nilly into the center of Israeli civilian areas. 0.98

00:39:41.000 Because after all, the Israelis are just too mean in their own self-defense. 1.00

00:39:44.000 That's the real problem here.

00:39:45.000 CNN broadcast this yesterday.

00:39:47.000 This is one video shared with CNN by an Israeli source that we are showing you.

00:39:53.000 Security cameras at the near Oz kibbutz in southern Israel show a knife wielding gunman soaring at the necks of dead Israelis.

00:40:03.000 Well, it seems like they might have some evidence for that proposition.

00:40:16.000 In fact, that's not even the worst beheading story of the day.

00:40:19.000 According to a man named David Tahar, his son was a kid named Adir Tahar.

00:40:25.000 His son was, I believe, 19 years old, and he was murdered on October 7th, and then he was beheaded.

00:40:32.000 And apparently, they then took his head back to Gaza and tried to sell it.

00:40:39.000 Adir's father said, I demanded to see the body.

00:40:41.000 They warned me against it, but as a father, I needed to know every detail about my child's death.

00:40:44.000 Half an hour before his burial, the body arrived at the cemetery when I opened the casket, I realized what I was burying.

00:40:48.000 He was unrecognizable.

00:40:50.000 As we buried Adir, I knew I was interring my child without his face, so I had to keep searching for it.

00:40:54.000 The grieving father spent weeks searching for a lead.

00:40:56.000 I reviewed all videos and eventually found footage of my son missing a critical part of his body, said David.

00:41:00.000 Three weeks ago, during the interrogation of two Hamas terrorists arrested in Israel, they confessed that one of them had attempted to sell my son's head for $10,000 in Gaza.

00:41:10.000 The IDF then entered Gaza, searched an ice cream shop's freezer, and there, in a suitcase, they found my son's head, which had also been desecrated.

00:41:17.000 At least I was able to bury him with the little dignity that remained.

00:41:20.000 Yeah, clearly, Palestinian-Israeli peace is just over the horizon.

00:41:24.000 It's gonna happen any time now.

00:41:26.000 And probably that will make the Iranians calm down. 1.00

00:41:30.000 Again, anything can happen at any time is a very good slogan, as it turns out, for the 2024 Biden campaign.

00:41:36.000 Because it feels like anything can happen at any time.

00:41:39.000 Meanwhile, the Supreme Court is about to make a very critical decision that will in fact shift an enormous amount of power back to the legislature.

00:41:47.000 This is a really big story that is going largely under the radar because it's a little complicated.

00:41:52.000 According to the Washington Post, a divided Supreme Court debated whether and how to curtail the power of federal agencies on Wednesday, with liberals urging the court to defer to the judgment of government experts, and conservatives saying judges should not systematically favor government regulators over private companies, industry, or individuals in litigation.

00:42:07.000 After more than three hours of argument, it was unclear whether the court's conservative majority would overturn or simply scale back the 40-year-old precedent that is under review in a pair of cases brought by herring fishermen from New Jersey and Rhode Island.

00:42:18.000 So, very often, the circumstances surrounding very important cases are really, really small and peculiar.

00:42:25.000 Basically, there is a federal rule requiring commercial fishermen to pay for at-sea monitors.

00:42:30.000 The court decision, however, is not really about that.

00:42:32.000 It is about whether Federal regulatory agencies are capable of regulating huge swaths of American life or whether it turns out those regulations have to stand up to constitutional scrutiny.

00:42:45.000 Conservatives have been targeting a framework that was set up in 1984 under a case called Chevron USA versus Natural Resources Defense Council.

00:42:53.000 That case set up something called Chevron Deference, which suggested that if the Congress passed a law and the law wasn't specific enough, that basically regulatory agencies could then use their expertise to read the tea leaves.

00:43:05.000 They could sit there and Rorschach test this thing and come up with giant books filled with regulations based on the vague language of statute.

00:43:13.000 And then, presumably, the courts would have nothing to say about it, because if Congress really wanted to do anything about it, they could pass a new regulation taking that power away from regulatory agencies, but they hadn't, and therefore, basically, the courts could not sit in judgment on anything these regulatory agencies were doing.

00:43:29.000 That, of course, is ridiculous.

00:43:30.000 That creates a truly perverse incentive structure where Congress, these members aren't elected.

00:43:35.000 They pass a bunch of vague laws.

00:43:37.000 They're never held accountable because if something goes wrong, it's not happening because of them.

00:43:40.000 It's happening because of the regulators.

00:43:41.000 Regulators get to do whatever they want.

00:43:43.000 There's huge amounts of industry capture in the regulatory agencies.

00:43:48.000 If you are a regulatory agency and you are overseeing, for example, laws with regard to the sea, major industries are going to get into the woodwork and they are going to start writing those laws for you.

00:43:58.000 That's how so many regulations are written.

00:44:00.000 And again, congressmen are perfectly happy to kick the can over to the regulatory agencies.

00:44:04.000 It is up to the judiciary to maintain the balance of power, the checks and balances that were set up in the Constitution, which is why Chevron deference should die.

00:44:12.000 On Wednesday, Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch, both nominees of President Trump, took turns peppering the Biden administration with skeptical questions, as Solicitor General Elizabeth Prolonger defended the Trump administration initiative and the longstanding Chevron precedent.

00:44:25.000 Kavanaugh said Chevron has allowed federal agencies to flip-flop and oppose different rules every time a new administration takes over.

00:44:31.000 Leaving judges with little choice but to defer to the changing interpretations of agency officials, which of course is very weird.

00:44:36.000 Because if regulatory agencies can take positions that are directly opposed to one another and Congress supposedly authorized both those positions at the same time, how could that possibly be?

00:44:48.000 How could that be?

00:44:49.000 Gorsuch has called long ago for getting rid of Chevron deference.

00:44:53.000 Of course, Democrats are very much in favor of it because they believe in a bureaucratic administrative centralized government where elections don't matter so much in the legislative branch, where everything can be done by a powerful executive branch.

00:45:03.000 This is a model of government first pushed by Woodrow Wilson in the early 20th century.

00:45:07.000 The notion of a bureaucratic administrative government of experts who would administer the government on your behalf.

00:45:13.000 For the people.

00:45:14.000 Looks very much like that WEF globalist centralized power idea, except applied to the American government.

00:45:21.000 It'll be interesting to see which way Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett go on this one.

00:45:27.000 It is possible that what they do is they say, we don't like how this particular regulation is being purveyed.

00:45:32.000 It's also possible they get rid of Chevron deference entirely.

00:45:35.000 They should.

00:45:35.000 They should get rid of Chevron's deference entirely.

00:45:37.000 The notion that, again, regulatory agencies ought to be unanswerable entirely when it comes to their interpretations of statute by the judiciary hands way too much power to the executive branch of government.

00:45:49.000 A restoration, by the way, of checks and balances in government where the legislature legislates and the executive branch executes and the judiciary adjudicates.

00:45:56.000 That would be the single best thing that could happen in the United States to restore any level of credibility in our government.

00:46:02.000 Is right now we think Congress is incompetent because they don't even do the legislating.

00:46:06.000 They pass giant omnibus packages.

00:46:07.000 And then we think the executive grabs too much power and thus is incompetent because they have too much power over our lives and we didn't let say Anthony Fauci who's a bureaucratic administrator.

00:46:17.000 And then we think the judiciary just sits there and does nothing about any of this.

00:46:20.000 When the various branches of government do what they were supposed to do in the first place, they reestablish their credibility.

00:46:25.000 That's why it would be excellent if the Supreme Court did get rid of Chevron deference.

00:46:29.000 Already coming up, we're going to jump into that vaunted Ben Shapiro show mailbag.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - January 18, 2024

Davos vs. The Rest Of Us

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