Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DIEI) is a term coined by Joe Biden's White House, and it's been used over and over again in every aspect of American government. But what exactly does it mean, exactly, and why does it matter? In this episode, we take a deep dive into DEI and why it matters. Plus, a story about a woman who injured a conservative patient, and then bragged about it, and a doctor who mocked a LGBTQ patient who was offended by it. Guests: Dr. Kaeishel Dil Rosario, a former medical student at Wake Forest University, and Dr. Ewen Liu, a student at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, who was awarded an award for excellence in LGBTQ patient care by the university for her work on a controversial patient who had a difficult time getting a blood draw. Thanks to our sponsor, VaynerSpeakers, we have a special bonus episode for you all this week's listeners! To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/OurAdvertisers and use the promo code: PODCAST at checkout to receive 10% off your first purchase when you enter the survey. We'll be giving out $10 or more when you place an offer of $50 or more during the survey, and we'll give you a FREE copy of our newest ad-free version of our new ad-targeted version of the new app, Podcon! Subscribe to Podcon Connect! Subscribe to our new show Podconversation! Subscribe, Like, comment, and Share, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes? Subscribe on Podcon? Subscribe and comment! Learn more about your thoughts on this podcast and share it with a fellow podcon? and other podcasting opportunities! Get in touch with us on social media links in the podconions! And don't forget to tell us what you're listening to us what your favorite podcasting platform is listening to and what your thoughts are up to us on your podcasting experience is up to! and what s your favorite thing we should be listening to this episode? Subscribe and what we're listening about it! We'll get a shoutout! in the Podcon is going to be featured on our next episode! Thank you for listening to our newest episode of Podcon or your feedback is that?
00:00:09.000And this standard, diversity, equity, and inclusion, according to Joe Biden's White House, has been infused in every aspect of American government.
00:00:16.000Now, what exactly does any of that mean?
00:00:18.000We've talked about it at length on the show before.
00:00:20.000Diversity, equity, and inclusion is essentially Critical race theory boiled down to a friendlier piece of corporate boilerplate.
00:00:28.000Essentially what it argues is that if you have a situation in which one demographic group is underrepresented in any particular industry or job, that must be the result of some sort of systemic discrimination or racism.
00:00:41.000So for example, if you don't have enough, say, black surgeons, that is because the surgical system itself discriminates against black people because in the sort of vision of Ibram X. Kendi, Either everyone is equal in every possible way, which means that therefore everyone should be equally represented in every industry, or everyone is unequal, which means that you are a racist.
00:01:04.000Now there is a sort of halfway point between those two positions, which happens to be the truth.
00:01:09.000The people of all races and all individuality Differ in their genetics, they differ in their environments, they differ in their culture, that all individuals are different.
00:01:17.000And that means that when you take a look at group averages, there are very few examples actually across all of humanity in which group averages are completely identical.
00:01:26.000But we have to ignore that in favor of the CEI proposition.
00:01:29.000Because DEI is a gun pointed directly at the heart of the meritocracy.
00:01:34.000The meritocracy suggests that there should be objective metrics by which we succeed or fail.
00:01:39.000And the good news about meritocracy is that it means that if you succeed, it's because you are doing something better than someone else, which means that it's better for everyone else.
00:01:47.000The DEI idea innately means that people who are unqualified are going to advance in life by dint of the fact that they are considered a part of a victimized group.
00:01:58.000It matters in pretty much every industry.
00:01:59.000It matters at universities where you've seen, for example, Asian Americans discriminated against because they are too high achieving in favor of people from other groups who have lower test scores.
00:02:08.000You've seen it in the government where you see people completely unqualified for particular offices appointed To those offices so as to establish some form of social justice.
00:02:32.000And that should frighten the living hell out of everyone because all you care about when you go into the doctor is, is my doctor good at the medicine-ing?
00:02:39.000Is my doctor good at taking care of me and making sure that I am healthy?
00:02:44.000I mean, this is an area where meritocracy should be the only thing that counts.
00:02:48.000Is my doctor likely to fix me or is my doctor bad at that job and got appointed because of extraneous merits?
00:02:55.000And it wouldn't matter what those extraneous merits are, whether they're intersectional or whether it's nepotistic.
00:03:43.000Now, that of course is an insane tweet.
00:03:46.000The idea being that if somebody disagrees with you politically, then you make them actually suffer because you are in the position of the doctor.
00:03:54.000Now, as our sources tell us, Wake Forest allowed Rosario Toledo to take a voluntary leave of absence when this scandal originally broke.
00:04:04.000She was not actually expelled or suspended.
00:04:09.000Wake Forest went into full denial mode over all of this.
00:04:13.000Also, UPenHealth has hired Ewen Liu, who is Del Rosario's classmate, who also tweeted that it seemed, quote, karmatic when she injured the patient who mocked her pronoun, Pen.
00:04:24.000Wake Forest then showered Liu with awards for excellence in patient care.
00:06:05.000Also, according to our sources, both UPenn and Lew's Medical School, Wake Forest, have attempted to hide Lew's hiring.
00:06:10.000Wake Forest didn't actually list Lew's hospital and graduation materials.
00:06:13.000Penn does not list Lew's medical school on its website.
00:06:18.000Now, again, all of this is just the tip of the iceberg, right?
00:06:21.000This is one basic situation which no apology was issued for a bad tweet.
00:06:26.000You could theoretically imagine a situation in which these students, they said something dumb, but now they apologize for it because they realized that it was wrong to say it.
00:06:34.000But that's not actually what happened.
00:06:36.000And the bigger problem, of course, is that this sort of perspective, which is that left-wing social views or intersectional qualities make you a better doctor, this has become a widespread perspective in the field of surgery.
00:06:51.000So let's talk about an award-winning Duke surgical resident named Vignesh Raman.
00:06:55.000At an internal DEI lecture, Raman actually said that his heart sinks when he has patients who watch Fox News or wear MAGA hats.
00:07:18.000People are not flying in from Qatar to get treated here.
00:07:21.000We treat patients who are just from the community in the South.
00:07:26.000And yes, my heart sinks every time I go into a room and I watch them watching Fox News, or they have a MAGA hat on, or they're wearing a Confederate belt, right?
00:07:37.000But Geraldine, I will say that the one very good thing about the South that I enjoy, is exactly what I alluded to earlier, is that we don't treat VIPs.
00:07:47.000And our community, as Auri explained, is majority non-white.
00:07:52.000And it is wonderful to treat such a diverse group of people in every regard.
00:07:58.000And that's not an experience that I had in my sub-is in other places, or that my friends have training in other programs.
00:08:05.000First of all, diverse meaning non-white is an amazingly euphemistic statement.
00:08:09.000Diverse usually means, you know, a broad diversity of people.
00:08:12.000But now, of course, diversity means not white people.
00:08:15.000So first of all, when you have surgical residents who have won awards talking about their hearts sinking when they see somebody of a different political perspective, that should put up your radar a little bit.
00:08:26.000The bad part is what Rahman says next.
00:08:28.000So according to Rahman, he says that post George Floyd, Duke actually made a concerted effort to stop hiring so many quote-unquote walls of white men and that the team even learned to abandon particular metrics and adopt holistic application practices so as to recruit more women and more Latinx surgeons.
00:08:46.0002020 and George Floyd and those events happened.
00:08:52.000And sort of collectively galvanize the consciousness of Duke University and certainly our department to try to do something and recognizing there's like centuries long history of racism and slavery in which Duke University essentially was founded, on which it was founded.
00:09:10.000And that's when we sort of had to confront the history of institution, the history of our department, The walls of white men that are draped across our hallways and that's when we started to start to think that maybe something should change.
00:09:28.000Something should change within ourselves and who comprises this department in terms of the faculty, in terms of the residents.
00:09:35.000Significant inequity in representation in our program and it's something that we've been consciously, deliberately working hard to change over the last several years.
00:09:46.000Some of the things that we have done in addition to what Lillian presented, I think the most important thing we've done is really systemic changes to our recruitment process to try to recruit diverse residents to our program and then to retain and support those diverse residents after they get to our program.
00:10:06.000So part of this has involved transitioning to completely holistic review process that we spoke about earlier today.
00:10:13.000Abandoning, you know, all sort of metrics and screens.
00:10:18.000Looking at people's life story and what brought them into surgery.
00:10:25.000And then the other part of it is increasing the diversity of the people who read the applications.
00:10:30.000Right, because that's an important component of ensuring that we get diverse residents into our program.
00:10:36.000And then once residents get here, how do we support them?
00:10:41.000So just to get that straight, he's literally saying that we are ignoring Metrics in order to look at the life story of your surgeon.
00:10:48.000You go in for an open heart surgery because God forbid you got a blockage in your artery.
00:10:53.000Do you ask for the surgeon's life story?
00:10:55.000Do you care about the surgeon's life story?
00:10:58.000Should you care about the surgeon's life story?
00:11:00.000Or do you care a lot more about whether this doctor has a good track record of making sure that people who require a bypass actually get the bypass they need without dying on the table?
00:11:10.000It is insane for surgical residencies to take a look at people based on their life story as opposed to objective metrics of success.
00:11:21.000By the way, this same person has also tweeted that he won't quote-unquote amplify medical literature involving only white men.
00:11:26.000He tweeted out, this is July of 2020, quote, I would say even for academic publications, I don't want to amplify the work of white men who only collaborate with other white men.
00:11:34.000Well, there go most of the modern medical advances in human history.
00:12:01.000The American College of Surgeons, the ACS, gave its 88,000 members, for example, a definition of racism that says it is literally impossible to be racist against white people.
00:12:10.000Here's what they said, quote, racism is the marginalization and or oppression of people
00:12:33.000Racism is not just discrimination against a race.
00:12:36.000It is power plus discrimination against the race.
00:12:38.000And the only people we can ever deem to be powerful are white men, which means that being racist against white people is totally fine.
00:12:45.000Not only is it fine, it is a corrective mechanism.
00:12:48.000So barring, for example, white men from getting into top level surgical residencies as a corrective mechanism is somehow good now.
00:12:56.000And you put that pressure all the way down the system and what you're ending up with is fewer qualified people who are entering the system and more unqualified people going to top medical schools.
00:13:04.000We'll get to more on this in just one moment.
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00:14:05.000That same American College of Surgeons invited a person named Madalena Torres to explain to its members that when patients see physicians who look like them, they tend to do better, and suggested that grants and awards be distributed to surgeons on the basis of their intersectionality.
00:14:19.000We're seeing evidence that diversity leads to improved outcomes with our patients.
00:14:23.000We know that a lot of data that when patients see physicians that look like them, they tend to do better.
00:14:28.000They tend to have better compliance or outcomes are better.
00:14:31.000And medicine has really lagged behind in a sense on representing the population that we serve.
00:14:38.000So, for example, the Association of Women Surgeons has a Partner with the Latino Surgical Society and create a liaison position so that we have a word or say at the table in terms of what kind of what's important for our membership.
00:14:51.000Association for Academic Surgery does that.
00:14:56.000The other thing that they're focused on which I think is phenomenal is they have developed grants and awards specifically for underrepresented minorities.
00:15:06.000Again, these sorts of happy talking nonsensical phraseologies, all this stuff is one thing in the synergistic corporate boardroom.
00:15:14.000It is another thing when you are talking about the surgical room.
00:15:18.000There's a recent conference on DEI at Penn where you and Lou now works.
00:15:22.000One surgeon explained that it was off putting that so many surgeons were quote unquote white men.
00:15:27.000You know, it's I think surgery in general has been, you know, predominantly white and male.
00:15:34.000Dominated field and that can be very off-putting and intimidating for somebody.
00:15:40.000And I, you know, unfortunately, I think we've probably lost, you know, many brilliant minds just for that reason.
00:15:51.000And I think even once you're here, you can very easily feel like another just because you don't look like or share a lot of the same experiences as your peers.
00:16:00.000Okay, you know what makes somebody feel like another?
00:16:02.000If you literally say that they are an oppressor class and therefore should not be part of your surgical residency, these same doctors go on to explain that surgery requires something like the NFL's Rooney Rule.
00:16:12.000So the Rooney Rule is a rule in the NFL that you must interview a certain number of black applicants to a position before you're actually allowed to hire.
00:16:20.000So they're saying that teams should be forced to interview minority candidates regardless of qualifications.
00:16:26.000I published years ago that the Rooney Rule rule that they use in the NFL should be applied to academic medicine and academic surgery in particular.
00:16:36.000If you thought some of the comments most recently about DEI efforts were challenging and inflammatory, now you can imagine a decade ago.
00:16:43.000That being said, it still needed to be discussed.
00:16:45.000So I think the lens of who else is out there, let's reach a little further, not down, but out pertaining to candidates that we need to consider.
00:16:58.000It's probably the way that it needs to go, Sanford, in my opinion.
00:17:04.000I think there also needs to be some accountability or some, you know, credence put on diversity initiatives, put on the diversity work that you may or may not be doing, or the diversity of your department, or the diversity of Because certainly if you've published 75 manuscripts in an abbreviated amount of time, absolutely.
00:17:30.000But the Rooney rule, which we know doesn't work very well since there's not that many black, you know, head coaches, is also that they just have to interview them.
00:17:40.000They don't have to hire them and they don't have to actually think about them, you know, on the same level.
00:17:47.000And so I think that we're still on the same issue that if the white man or the white male chair is picking their successor or picking whoever it is, they're still going to gravitate towards the white male whatever.
00:18:00.000And so the Rooney Rule, I think, is great, but it needs to go one step further.
00:18:05.000And I'm sure that that's not going to be incredibly popular out in the world, but it's true because we know that just interviewing them isn't enough.
00:18:13.000Because they're still not getting picked.
00:18:15.000So people must be forced to select, forced to select black candidates or minority candidates or whomever, forced to pick that.
00:18:23.000I love the fact that we are now living in this Orwellian world where she can assume that if a white chair of a medical association picks, say, an Asian person to replace them, that that is, in effect, white supremacy done through unconscious bias.
00:18:36.000But if they openly pick somebody for race, then that is somehow a corrective.
00:18:41.000In other words, you have to assume that the entire system is evil in order for you to perpetuate your own evil, which is to select people not on the basis of merit.
00:18:49.000She literally says that it's one thing if you have 75 publications or whatever, but what about people who don't have 75?
00:18:55.000What about the people who are just incompetent?
00:18:57.000Why shouldn't they have a shot at being chief medical resident at Harvard?
00:20:10.000There is no other governing principle.
00:20:13.000As a patient, that is what I care about when I put my kids in the care of a doctor or a surgeon, God forbid.
00:20:19.000The only thing I care about is whether that person is going to be able to take care of me or my kid.
00:20:24.000I do not care at all about the race of the person.
00:20:27.000And the fact that that colorblindness is now seen as racism, and that the corrective to that is actual racism, is totally insane and it's gonna get people killed.
00:20:35.000It legitimately will get people killed.
00:20:37.000You'll have incompetent people in positions of power specifically because of DEI.
00:20:42.000And that particular philosophy is not, of course, relegated to the practice of medicine.
00:20:46.000We'll get to more on this in just one moment.
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00:21:49.000It's a horrifying story over the weekend.
00:21:51.000According to CNN, there has been suspect in the killing of an Augusta University
00:21:55.000College of Nursing student at the University of Georgia campus in Athens.
00:22:00.000The young woman's name was Laken Hope Riley, who was a junior on the Dean's List at Augusta University.
00:22:05.000According to the University of Georgia Police Chief Jeff Clark, it was a crime of opportunity by an individual who woke up with bad intentions.
00:22:13.000So who exactly is the alleged murderer?
00:22:17.000While the police are recommending charges against a 26-year-old, including felony murder, false imprisonment, kidnapping, and concealing the death of another in Riley's killing.
00:22:39.000Apparently, according to a member of the Georgia legislature, the suspect was in the country illegally having crossed the border in El Paso, Texas in 2022.
00:22:48.000He was apprehended at the border and released into the United States.
00:22:52.000Now again, that is the catch and release program the Biden administration has put in place.
00:23:06.000But again, New York City also has a DEI policy whereby they've decided that crime, an objective metric, is no longer sufficient to decide whether someone ought to go to jail or be deported.
00:23:17.000If too many Black or Hispanic people are being arrested and or deported, well, that must mean that the system is broken and we have to get rid of the metric itself.
00:23:24.000The suspect and his brother were cited in Athens, Clark County in October of 2023 for shoplifting.
00:23:30.000The suspect even had an outstanding bench warrant as of December 2023 for failing to appear in court on the shoplifting charges.
00:23:37.000The suspect's brother was charged yesterday by federal authorities for possessing a fraudulent green card.
00:23:43.000The suspect's brother was arrested in Athens, Clark County, in September 2023 for a DUI, driving without a license, speeding, open container, and failure to yield to an emergency vehicle, and was arrested again in December.
00:23:55.000So Joe Biden has taken up DEI at every level of his administration.
00:23:58.000And that means with regard to immigration policy as well.
00:24:03.000That is not to say that the vast majority of people who are crossing the border are criminals, other than the illegal crossing of the border.
00:24:09.000It is to say that when you let people in and you don't vet them and you have no idea why they're here, and then you arrest them multiple times and release them without deporting them, people lie.
00:24:21.000They say that the 26-year-old citizen of Venezuela was arrested by CBP September 8, 2022 after unlawfully entering the United States near El Paso, Texas.
00:24:30.000He was paroled and released for further processing.
00:24:33.000On September 14, 2023, he was arrested by the NYPD and charged.
00:24:39.000He was released by the NYPD before any detainer could be issued.
00:24:42.000And then on February 23, 2024, ERO Atlanta encountered this person pursuant to his arrest by the University of Georgia Police Department and being charged with murder and other crimes.
00:24:52.000And finally, ERO Atlanta lodged a detainer.
00:24:58.000This is the pure and obvious outcome of a horrific immigration policy undertaken by this administration.
00:25:06.000You know how we know it didn't have to happen?
00:25:07.000Because Joe Biden is now considering taking executive action to stop it from happening.
00:25:10.000Joe Biden now wants to change the definition of asylum at the border.
00:25:16.000Tammy Duckworth, very liberal senator, she says that she would back Joe Biden's executive action to stop asylum claims, which, by the way, is in and of itself a tacit admission to all of the charges Republicans have been making about bad Democratic immigration policy.
00:25:34.000The Biden administration is considering using executive action to make it harder for migrants to claim asylum.
00:25:47.000Donald Trump has backed away from this.
00:25:49.000As part of that package, there was more money for a whole bunch of things, to include a worker program so that people could actually go to work while they're waiting for their case to be adjudicated.
00:26:00.000I think that is critically important, is a work permit for folks who come here and they want to work.
00:27:11.000They're all being deposited Into our country, and then you have terrorists, and then you have drugs, and then you have human traffickers, and they're coming over at levels never seen before.
00:27:25.000The people who are getting outraged about Trump saying stuff like that seems to me should be a lot more outraged about the fact that, you know, illegal immigrants sometimes kill American citizens and they shouldn't be here.
00:28:44.000At CPAC, President Trump was saying that Joe Biden is directing the country toward collapse.
00:28:48.000And certainly, when you look at the fact that at least 7.2 million people were encountered at the border under Joe Biden, millions more were not encountered.
00:28:56.000So anywhere between 7 and 10 million people have probably entered the country illegally since Joe Biden took office.
00:29:02.000I mean, those are awful numbers, and Trump is right to point it out, obviously.
00:29:07.000If crooked Joe Biden and his thugs win in 2024, the worst is yet to come.
00:29:14.000Our country will go and sink to levels that were unimaginable.
00:30:13.000And the other is his policies are so scary and so terrible.
00:30:17.000The problem is that Joe Biden's current policies are so bad that Trump's pledges to reverse those policies are so incredibly sane by comparison.
00:30:27.000I mean, Trump—Politico is threatening us with a good time, so Politico has an entire piece titled, Beyond Shock and Awe, inside Trump's potential second-term agenda.
00:30:35.000From nationwide abortion bans to classroom culture wars, assaults on climate science, and political weaponization of the military, his return to the White House could make Trump 1.0 seem tame.
00:30:43.000Well, I mean, can we be frank about something?
00:30:48.000Trump 1.0 in terms of policy was sane and tame, which is why, as of 2019, before the COVID pandemic, we had a booming economy, peace on the foreign front, and a fairly high level of domestic tranquility.
00:31:02.000So if you're threatening me with more sanity, I don't know that that's much of a threat.
00:31:07.000According to Politico, trying to scare the hell out of you, both supporters and critics of the ex-president predict a re-elected Trump would wage a more focused and aggressive attack on the status quo.
00:31:16.000This time, they say, he would be far more knowledgeable about the mechanics of wielding executive power.
00:31:21.000Having placed so many conservatives in federal judgeships, he would face less resistance from the court.
00:31:25.000And he would be more determined to place loyalists, not rules-obsessed traditionalists, in senior roles.
00:31:30.000Well, my guess is that he would actually be more interested in making sure that people who are lower down on the food chain were people who weren't attempting to, you know, destroy his presidency from within.
00:32:04.000It shouldn't be guiding executive policy if the legislature wants to make decisions to cripple the American economy based on the gradual warming of the climate over the next 100 years using measures that will not markedly decrease that warming and are heavily reliant on foreign countries to do the same.
00:32:19.000Let the legislature do that and let your legislators be punished for it.
00:32:23.000Why should the executive branch be responsible for doing all of that?
00:32:53.000Do you want to be reliant on Chinese pharmaceuticals?
00:32:55.000What happens when China invades Taiwan?
00:32:57.000What happens when the ability of Americans to get vital goods goes away because we didn't prepare for the possibility of that?
00:33:06.000Politico is also trying to scare you that he's going to wage a classroom war.
00:33:08.000Again, this is one of the left's favorite games, is that they declare war on something perfectly innocuous like a classroom by trying to sexualize children.
00:33:15.000And then when you say no, you're waging a classroom war.
00:33:19.000And this is all the stuff that's supposed to be scaring you?
00:33:22.000I gotta tell you, I don't seem so scared about all of it.
00:34:04.000They're going to have to resort to prong number one again, which is Donald Trump, crazy person.
00:34:09.000Now, this does not mean that Trump has a clear path ahead for the presidency.
00:34:14.000There's a primary over the weekend in South Carolina.
00:34:15.000We're going to get to that in just one second because it shows you kind of the strategies that are being attempted by both sides, Democrats and Republicans.
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00:35:37.000Meanwhile, So, Donald Trump right now has the advantage.
00:35:41.000There's no question that he has the advantage in this election, and that's not really because of Trump so much as it is about Joe Biden.
00:35:46.000Right now, in the RealClearPolitics polling average, Donald Trump is running fully 1.9 points ahead of Joe Biden.
00:35:52.000At this point in the last election cycle, Joe Biden was running nearly 5 points ahead of Donald Trump, and of course, he only narrowly beat him in the Electoral College.
00:35:59.000According to the brand new Harris X poll that is out over the course of the last few days, Trump is up four.
00:36:04.000According to Economist YouGov, Trump is up one.
00:36:05.000According to Morning Consult, Trump is up four.
00:36:07.000If Trump is up in the popular vote, Trump's winning the election.
00:36:10.000If Trump's even within a point in the popular vote, Trump is going to win the election.
00:36:14.000So Trump is in pretty good shape, but he does have a problem.
00:36:17.000The problem that he has is can he get low propensity voters to the polls because The Republican Party has traded high-propensity voters for low-propensity voters.
00:36:26.000That's one of the things that has happened.
00:36:28.000Now, Democrats have sort of done the same.
00:36:51.000Are they high propensity voters or are they low propensity voters?
00:36:54.000And what you see is that in the United States, there are wide disparities between different groups based on age, based on race, based on education, based on family income, in who is a voter and who is a non-voter.
00:37:09.000So if you take a look, for example, at 2022, right, the last election cycle, what you will see is that among voters, the number of 18 to 29s was really, really low.
00:37:22.00027% of 18 to 29s did not vote in the 2022 election.
00:39:31.000Meanwhile, Republicans have also built a weird coalition.
00:39:34.000Their weird coalition is high-propensity voters, namely old white people, but also very low-propensity voters, namely high school educated, poor white people, who are also less likely to vote.
00:39:44.000So you have a coalition in both parties of some high-propensity voters and a lot of low-propensity voters.
00:39:48.000So the question is, how do you get your low-propensity voters to vote?
00:39:54.000Because neither party can afford to lose a lot here.
00:39:57.000Okay, so if you are Donald Trump, how do you get those low propensity voters out to the polls?
00:40:01.000Well, Donald Trump actually does have a habit of getting low propensity high school educated white males, for example, out to vote in broader numbers.
00:40:10.000Can Joe Biden do the same with minorities?
00:40:12.000It's the reason right now why he's trying to capitulate to Hamas.
00:40:15.000It's the reason why he's playing footsie with the radicals in Michigan.
00:40:21.000It's the reason why he refuses to take measures that would crack down on illegal immigration up till now.
00:40:27.000He's trying to please a low-propensity voting group, young people, very low-propensity voting group.
00:40:32.000He's trying to please those people and low-propensity voting groups like black Americans.
00:40:38.000He thinks that if he caters to that voting group, they will show up in broader... Low-propensity means likelihood to vote.
00:40:44.000Typically, the way that you win an election, if you want to win an election, you get everybody who is like 60% or up in terms of voting for you to get to the polls, and then you convince everybody who's like 40% or up on voting for you to get to the polls.
00:40:55.000Those would be independents very often.
00:40:57.000People who vote a lot, but you're not sure which way they're going to vote.
00:40:59.000Nobody is aiming at the median voter anymore.
00:41:02.000It's pretty impressive how everyone is steadfastly ignoring the median voter.
00:41:05.000Which is, for example, why Nikki Haley pulls really well in general election terms.
00:41:10.000Because in terms of her positioning, she's actually closer to, quote unquote, the median voter.
00:41:16.000Now, does that mean that she would ever win a primary inside the Republican Party?
00:41:18.000The answer, of course, is no, which is what happened in South Carolina the other day.
00:41:21.000So in South Carolina, Donald Trump blew Nikki Haley away.
00:41:24.000He won a 20-point victory over Nikki Haley in South Carolina's Republican primary.
00:41:28.000That, of course, is where she was the governor.
00:41:32.000Americans for Prosperity Action told its staff Sunday it would stop supporting her financially.
00:41:36.000So this race is effectively over for her.
00:41:38.000She doesn't have the money to keep running.
00:41:41.000She says she's going to continue to stay in.
00:41:42.000I assume the reason that she is staying in is because she believes that if she stays in and if Donald Trump gets the nomination, then he loses.
00:41:49.000She's going to be able to say, listen, I offered you an alternative.
00:42:21.000Donald Trump is a highly polarizing figure that given Joe Biden's myriad failures as president of the United States, Trump should be up 10 points over Joe Biden at this point, even though he is up very slightly in the polls right now.
00:43:55.000So what is Trump's strategy going to be here?
00:43:57.000Well, some people think that he's going to try to diversify out his base by picking somebody like Tim Scott for vice president.
00:44:03.000I think the answer here for Trump really is that I think that he figures he's got everybody in the low propensity category who's going to vote voting.
00:44:11.000Maybe he tacks to the middle in terms of position and hopes that independent voter breaks for him.
00:44:16.000What it seems like he's really counting on more than anything else is for Biden not to be able to turn out the low propensity voter.
00:44:22.000It just means the election is going to be really, really close.
00:44:23.000When you're betting on the other side to fail as opposed to yourself to succeed, that can be a very serious problem.
00:44:29.000It also doesn't help when you have people like Mike Lindell, who's obviously a big Trump backer, out there telling people not to vote by mail.
00:44:43.000But here's what we're loaded for now that we didn't have then.
00:44:47.000The RNC, yeah, they got a lot of problems, but one of the things that they did do, when I ran for RNC chair last year, what came out of that, this August, the RNC passed a resolution, paper ballots, hand-counted, same-day voting, no early voting.
00:45:04.000Um, and by the way, anybody that tells you to vote early is wrong.
00:45:23.000Meanwhile, in the best media story of the weekend, Chaya Raycheck, who's libs of TikTok.
00:45:30.000She actually sat down with Taylor Lorenz.
00:45:31.000Now, Taylor Lorenz happens to be a faux reporter who spends all of her time these days basically tracking down Chaya Raycheck.
00:45:40.000It's like what she spends all of her time doing.
00:45:44.000So, she is a columnist for the Washington Post.
00:45:47.000She used to report for the New York Times.
00:45:50.000And she has been spending all of her time trying to basically blame Chaya for anything bad happening in the country.
00:45:55.000That if somebody follows Chaya on her Twitter account, and all Chaya does on her Twitter account is expose people on the left for doing what they're doing.
00:46:02.000It's amazing to me, the hatred for Chaya for literally taking videos of people on TikTok and then just exposing them to a broader audience.
00:46:08.000It's not like she's breaking secret video.
00:46:10.000These people are putting up videos of themselves talking about transing the kids.
00:46:13.000She takes it, she grants a broader exposure, and suddenly people react.
00:46:16.000Again, it is just that stupid left-wing game, writ large of, oh my God, you notice that means you're bad.
00:46:22.000Well, now there's a 53-minute long interview with Chaya Raychek between Taylor Lorenz and Chaya Raychek
00:46:29.000in which Chaya really kind of shellacks Lorenz because she asks her, you know, you seem to think,
00:46:35.000for example, that it's okay to show pornography You seem to think that it is fine to blame me for all of the activities of people who follow me, which is a weird thing for anyone in journalism to believe.
00:47:05.000I don't see, I guess I don't see as much.
00:47:06.000If I saw an example of a child being sexualized, of course I have a problem with, you know, certain things.
00:47:11.000I will, I will actually, you know, I will say... So do you think we should give kids born in school the images of, like, gay sex?
00:47:19.000I went to public school, and in public school, at least when I was growing up, we were absolutely given literature explaining sex, educating people.
00:50:12.000She says she wants Chaya to be responsible for anyone who watches her content now.
00:50:17.000Do you think that there's a difference between doing journalism on a completely private figure that has no public presence and no institutional power versus reporting on a powerful public institution or person?
00:50:30.000Is the journalist responsible for reporting for any actions that happen after the reporting?
00:50:35.000Personally, I think that journalists should take care and should consider the framing.
00:50:43.000And I think that they should do their best not to Not to appear as if they encourage that sort of behavior.
00:50:51.000I've noticed that you haven't necessarily publicly condemned that behavior, publicly told your supporters, listen guys, stop calling in these bomb threats.
00:51:28.000And these are the people in the legacy media.
00:51:30.000There's a reason we all hate the legacy media.
00:51:32.000It's hard to think of people who are worse than the legacy media, to be totally honest with you.
00:51:37.000I mean, and it's across the board, just the disconnect.
00:51:39.000The disconnect between our legacy media and the American public is utterly wild.
00:51:43.000For example, here is a political reporter on MSNBC explaining that anyone who believes in God-given rights is actually a Christian nationalist.
00:52:07.000So, Christian nationalism is a term with an actual meaning.
00:52:11.000And what it typically means is something akin to theocracy.
00:52:14.000That law should be Christian in orientation.
00:52:16.000Not just that it should take its values from Christianity.
00:52:20.000Which is something that I generally agree with in the United States.
00:52:24.000Not that you should be mandated to go to church because there is a separation of church and state to that extent, but that the moral underpinning of the United States of America is rooted in Christian theology.
00:52:34.000I mean, there's no question that that is true.
00:52:36.000And by the way, so is secularism in the West.
00:52:39.000They're roots, historically, in Christianity, clearly.
00:52:43.000But what they say is that Christian nationalism means Anything that invokes God is now Christian nationalism.
00:52:49.000So that's how you end up with this idiotic reporter, Heidi Prisbilla, trying to claim that the Declaration of Independence is a Christian nationalist document.
00:52:58.000The one thing that unites all of them, because there's many different groups orbiting Trump, but the thing that unites them as Christian nationalists, not Christians, by the way, because Christian nationalists is very different, is that they believe that our rights as Americans, as all human beings, don't come from any earthly authority.
00:53:20.000You mean like the Declaration of Independence?
00:53:24.000That's literally the Declaration of Independence.
00:53:25.000She's calling a Christian nationalist document now.
00:53:28.000Because again, if you are on the right, you are just whatever is the evil term of the day.
00:53:33.000By the way, the corollary to what she's saying is that the only way to be not a Christian internationalist is to believe that rights come from government.
00:53:39.000That the government grants you rights.
00:53:41.000Which of course is ridiculous, because that assumes that all power innately resides not with the people, not with individuals, not with families, not with communities, but with the government.
00:53:50.000The entire basis for American government is that we granted government certain specified powers in the Constitution of the United States.
00:53:56.000Specified powers, not unlimited powers.
00:53:59.000And that we reserve rights to ourselves.
00:54:02.000And that if the government invades those rights, the government has failed to do its job, and in fact has destroyed its reason for existence.
00:54:09.000But that's now, I guess, a Christian nationalist perspective.
00:54:11.000So, good news guys, I guess I'm now a Christian nationalist, if that's the way that that works.