The Ben Shapiro Show - DEI Could Get You Killed In The Operating Room

00:00:00.000 Well, you've heard the words diversity, equity, and inclusion over and over and over.

00:00:04.000 DEI.

00:00:05.000 You hear it from the White House.

00:00:06.000 You hear it from your corporation.

00:00:08.000 You hear it from the media.

00:00:09.000 And this standard, diversity, equity, and inclusion, according to Joe Biden's White House, has been infused in every aspect of American government.

00:00:16.000 Now, what exactly does any of that mean?

00:00:18.000 We've talked about it at length on the show before.

00:00:20.000 Diversity, equity, and inclusion is essentially Critical race theory boiled down to a friendlier piece of corporate boilerplate.

00:00:28.000 Essentially what it argues is that if you have a situation in which one demographic group is underrepresented in any particular industry or job, that must be the result of some sort of systemic discrimination or racism.

00:00:41.000 So for example, if you don't have enough, say, black surgeons, that is because the surgical system itself discriminates against black people because in the sort of vision of Ibram X. Kendi, Either everyone is equal in every possible way, which means that therefore everyone should be equally represented in every industry, or everyone is unequal, which means that you are a racist.

00:01:04.000 Now there is a sort of halfway point between those two positions, which happens to be the truth.

00:01:09.000 The people of all races and all individuality Differ in their genetics, they differ in their environments, they differ in their culture, that all individuals are different. 1.00

00:01:17.000 And that means that when you take a look at group averages, there are very few examples actually across all of humanity in which group averages are completely identical.

00:01:26.000 But we have to ignore that in favor of the CEI proposition.

00:01:29.000 Why?

00:01:29.000 Because DEI is a gun pointed directly at the heart of the meritocracy.

00:01:34.000 The meritocracy suggests that there should be objective metrics by which we succeed or fail.

00:01:39.000 And the good news about meritocracy is that it means that if you succeed, it's because you are doing something better than someone else, which means that it's better for everyone else.

00:01:47.000 The DEI idea innately means that people who are unqualified are going to advance in life by dint of the fact that they are considered a part of a victimized group.

00:01:56.000 Now, why does this matter?

00:01:58.000 It matters in pretty much every industry.

00:01:59.000 It matters at universities where you've seen, for example, Asian Americans discriminated against because they are too high achieving in favor of people from other groups who have lower test scores.

00:02:08.000 You've seen it in the government where you see people completely unqualified for particular offices appointed To those offices so as to establish some form of social justice.

00:02:16.000 And now we see it in medicine.

00:02:18.000 So one of our producers, excellent researcher and producer Greg Ray, he helped us put this together.

00:02:24.000 And it's an amazing, amazing story.

00:02:26.000 DEI is not just present when it comes to your corporate hiring practices.

00:02:30.000 It is also present in medicine.

00:02:32.000 And that should frighten the living hell out of everyone because all you care about when you go into the doctor is, is my doctor good at the medicine-ing?

00:02:39.000 Is my doctor good at taking care of me and making sure that I am healthy?

00:02:44.000 I mean, this is an area where meritocracy should be the only thing that counts.

00:02:48.000 Is my doctor likely to fix me or is my doctor bad at that job and got appointed because of extraneous merits?

00:02:55.000 And it wouldn't matter what those extraneous merits are, whether they're intersectional or whether it's nepotistic.

00:03:00.000 It doesn't matter.

00:03:01.000 All you care about when you get into that surgical bed is that the person operating on you should be good at that job.

00:03:08.000 But surgery is now being impacted by DEI.

00:03:13.000 Apparently, sources at Wake Forest Medical School are about to graduate.

00:03:17.000 Kaishel Dil Rosario.

00:03:19.000 She's a med student who injured a conservative patient and then bragged about it. 1.00

00:03:23.000 Here's what she tweeted.

00:03:25.000 This is back in March of 2022.

00:03:26.000 Quote, I had a patient I was doing a blood draw on see my pronoun pin and laugh loudly to the staff.

00:03:32.000 She her? 0.57

00:03:33.000 Well, of course it is.

00:03:34.000 What other pronouns are even are there?

00:03:36.000 It?

00:03:37.000 I missed his vein, so he had to get stuck twice.

00:03:40.000 Snorting laughing emoji.

00:03:43.000 Now, that of course is an insane tweet.

00:03:46.000 The idea being that if somebody disagrees with you politically, then you make them actually suffer because you are in the position of the doctor.

00:03:54.000 Now, as our sources tell us, Wake Forest allowed Rosario Toledo to take a voluntary leave of absence when this scandal originally broke.

00:04:04.000 She was not actually expelled or suspended.

00:04:07.000 And in fact, no apology was issued.

00:04:09.000 Wake Forest went into full denial mode over all of this.

00:04:13.000 Also, UPenHealth has hired Ewen Liu, who is Del Rosario's classmate, who also tweeted that it seemed, quote, karmatic when she injured the patient who mocked her pronoun, Pen.

00:04:24.000 Wake Forest then showered Liu with awards for excellence in patient care.

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00:05:46.000 So first of all, the basic idea that medical error is rooted in karma.

00:05:51.000 That you quote-unquote deserve it if there is a medical error upon you?

00:05:56.000 Because you have the wrong belief system?

00:05:58.000 Like, say, you believe in the actual scientific fact that there are men and there are women?

00:06:03.000 That is a serious, serious problem.

00:06:05.000 Also, according to our sources, both UPenn and Lew's Medical School, Wake Forest, have attempted to hide Lew's hiring.

00:06:10.000 Wake Forest didn't actually list Lew's hospital and graduation materials.

00:06:13.000 Penn does not list Lew's medical school on its website.

00:06:18.000 Now, again, all of this is just the tip of the iceberg, right?

00:06:21.000 This is one basic situation which no apology was issued for a bad tweet.

00:06:26.000 You could theoretically imagine a situation in which these students, they said something dumb, but now they apologize for it because they realized that it was wrong to say it.

00:06:34.000 But that's not actually what happened.

00:06:36.000 And the bigger problem, of course, is that this sort of perspective, which is that left-wing social views or intersectional qualities make you a better doctor, this has become a widespread perspective in the field of surgery.

00:06:51.000 So let's talk about an award-winning Duke surgical resident named Vignesh Raman.

00:06:55.000 At an internal DEI lecture, Raman actually said that his heart sinks when he has patients who watch Fox News or wear MAGA hats.

00:07:04.000 Here's what he had to say.

00:07:07.000 The thing is, we are in the South, right?

00:07:09.000 And unlike a lot of the hospitals in the Northeast or in the West, we serve a very Southern population.

00:07:15.000 This is not a VIP hospital.

00:07:18.000 People are not flying in from Qatar to get treated here.

00:07:21.000 We treat patients who are just from the community in the South.

00:07:26.000 And yes, my heart sinks every time I go into a room and I watch them watching Fox News, or they have a MAGA hat on, or they're wearing a Confederate belt, right?

00:07:35.000 These are the patients that we treat.

00:07:37.000 But Geraldine, I will say that the one very good thing about the South that I enjoy, is exactly what I alluded to earlier, is that we don't treat VIPs.

00:07:45.000 We treat people from our community.

00:07:47.000 And our community, as Auri explained, is majority non-white.

00:07:52.000 And it is wonderful to treat such a diverse group of people in every regard.

00:07:58.000 And that's not an experience that I had in my sub-is in other places, or that my friends have training in other programs.

00:08:05.000 First of all, diverse meaning non-white is an amazingly euphemistic statement.

00:08:09.000 Diverse usually means, you know, a broad diversity of people.

00:08:12.000 But now, of course, diversity means not white people.

00:08:15.000 So first of all, when you have surgical residents who have won awards talking about their hearts sinking when they see somebody of a different political perspective, that should put up your radar a little bit.

00:08:24.000 But that's not the bad part.

00:08:26.000 The bad part is what Rahman says next.

00:08:28.000 So according to Rahman, he says that post George Floyd, Duke actually made a concerted effort to stop hiring so many quote-unquote walls of white men and that the team even learned to abandon particular metrics and adopt holistic application practices so as to recruit more women and more Latinx surgeons.

00:08:45.000 Here's Vignesh Rahman.

00:08:46.000 2020 and George Floyd and those events happened.

00:08:52.000 And sort of collectively galvanize the consciousness of Duke University and certainly our department to try to do something and recognizing there's like centuries long history of racism and slavery in which Duke University essentially was founded, on which it was founded.

00:09:10.000 And that's when we sort of had to confront the history of institution, the history of our department, The walls of white men that are draped across our hallways and that's when we started to start to think that maybe something should change. 0.89

00:09:28.000 Something should change within ourselves and who comprises this department in terms of the faculty, in terms of the residents.

00:09:35.000 Significant inequity in representation in our program and it's something that we've been consciously, deliberately working hard to change over the last several years.

00:09:46.000 Some of the things that we have done in addition to what Lillian presented, I think the most important thing we've done is really systemic changes to our recruitment process to try to recruit diverse residents to our program and then to retain and support those diverse residents after they get to our program.

00:10:06.000 So part of this has involved transitioning to completely holistic review process that we spoke about earlier today.

00:10:13.000 Abandoning, you know, all sort of metrics and screens.

00:10:18.000 Looking at people's life story and what brought them into surgery.

00:10:25.000 And then the other part of it is increasing the diversity of the people who read the applications.

00:10:30.000 Right, because that's an important component of ensuring that we get diverse residents into our program.

00:10:36.000 And then once residents get here, how do we support them?

00:10:41.000 So just to get that straight, he's literally saying that we are ignoring Metrics in order to look at the life story of your surgeon.

00:10:47.000 Now, I just have a question for you.

00:10:48.000 You go in for an open heart surgery because God forbid you got a blockage in your artery.

00:10:53.000 Do you ask for the surgeon's life story?

00:10:55.000 Do you care about the surgeon's life story?

00:10:58.000 Should you care about the surgeon's life story?

00:11:00.000 Or do you care a lot more about whether this doctor has a good track record of making sure that people who require a bypass actually get the bypass they need without dying on the table?

00:11:10.000 It is insane for surgical residencies to take a look at people based on their life story as opposed to objective metrics of success.

00:11:18.000 It's totally crazy.

00:11:21.000 By the way, this same person has also tweeted that he won't quote-unquote amplify medical literature involving only white men.

00:11:26.000 He tweeted out, this is July of 2020, quote, I would say even for academic publications, I don't want to amplify the work of white men who only collaborate with other white men.

00:11:34.000 Well, there go most of the modern medical advances in human history.

00:11:39.000 Like, seriously?

00:11:40.000 You're not going to actually take a look at the academic publications of white men working with other white men?

00:11:47.000 I mean, first of all, that's racism.

00:11:50.000 Second of all, These are the areas where merit matters most.

00:11:55.000 And of course, again, even this guy is only one example of a bigger trend.

00:12:00.000 This guy is the tip of the iceberg.

00:12:01.000 The American College of Surgeons, the ACS, gave its 88,000 members, for example, a definition of racism that says it is literally impossible to be racist against white people.

00:12:10.000 Here's what they said, quote, racism is the marginalization and or oppression of people

00:12:14.000 of color.

00:12:15.000 Based on a socially constructed racial hierarchy that privileges white people, racism involves

00:12:19.000 one group having the power to carry out systematic discrimination through the institutional policies

00:12:23.000 and practices of the society and by shaping the cultural beliefs and values that support

00:12:27.000 those racist policies and practices.

00:12:30.000 That is the Ibram X.

00:12:31.000 Kendi definition of racism.

00:12:33.000 Racism is not just discrimination against a race.

00:12:36.000 It is power plus discrimination against the race.

00:12:38.000 And the only people we can ever deem to be powerful are white men, which means that being racist against white people is totally fine.

00:12:45.000 Not only is it fine, it is a corrective mechanism.

00:12:48.000 So barring, for example, white men from getting into top level surgical residencies as a corrective mechanism is somehow good now. 0.97

00:12:56.000 And you put that pressure all the way down the system and what you're ending up with is fewer qualified people who are entering the system and more unqualified people going to top medical schools.

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00:14:05.000 That same American College of Surgeons invited a person named Madalena Torres to explain to its members that when patients see physicians who look like them, they tend to do better, and suggested that grants and awards be distributed to surgeons on the basis of their intersectionality.

00:14:19.000 We're seeing evidence that diversity leads to improved outcomes with our patients.

00:14:23.000 We know that a lot of data that when patients see physicians that look like them, they tend to do better.

00:14:28.000 They tend to have better compliance or outcomes are better.

00:14:31.000 And medicine has really lagged behind in a sense on representing the population that we serve.

00:14:38.000 So, for example, the Association of Women Surgeons has a Partner with the Latino Surgical Society and create a liaison position so that we have a word or say at the table in terms of what kind of what's important for our membership.

00:14:51.000 Association for Academic Surgery does that.

00:14:53.000 SAGES does that.

00:14:54.000 SSAT is doing that.

00:14:56.000 The other thing that they're focused on which I think is phenomenal is they have developed grants and awards specifically for underrepresented minorities.

00:15:06.000 Again, these sorts of happy talking nonsensical phraseologies, all this stuff is one thing in the synergistic corporate boardroom.

00:15:14.000 It is another thing when you are talking about the surgical room.

00:15:18.000 There's a recent conference on DEI at Penn where you and Lou now works.

00:15:22.000 One surgeon explained that it was off putting that so many surgeons were quote unquote white men.

00:15:27.000 You know, it's I think surgery in general has been, you know, predominantly white and male.

00:15:34.000 Dominated field and that can be very off-putting and intimidating for somebody.

00:15:40.000 And I, you know, unfortunately, I think we've probably lost, you know, many brilliant minds just for that reason.

00:15:48.000 They don't feel like they belong.

00:15:50.000 They feel like they're another.

00:15:51.000 And I think even once you're here, you can very easily feel like another just because you don't look like or share a lot of the same experiences as your peers.

00:16:00.000 Okay, you know what makes somebody feel like another?

00:16:02.000 If you literally say that they are an oppressor class and therefore should not be part of your surgical residency, these same doctors go on to explain that surgery requires something like the NFL's Rooney Rule.

00:16:12.000 So the Rooney Rule is a rule in the NFL that you must interview a certain number of black applicants to a position before you're actually allowed to hire.

00:16:20.000 So they're saying that teams should be forced to interview minority candidates regardless of qualifications.

00:16:26.000 I published years ago that the Rooney Rule rule that they use in the NFL should be applied to academic medicine and academic surgery in particular.

00:16:36.000 If you thought some of the comments most recently about DEI efforts were challenging and inflammatory, now you can imagine a decade ago.

00:16:43.000 That being said, it still needed to be discussed.

00:16:45.000 So I think the lens of who else is out there, let's reach a little further, not down, but out pertaining to candidates that we need to consider.

00:16:58.000 It's probably the way that it needs to go, Sanford, in my opinion.

00:17:04.000 I think there also needs to be some accountability or some, you know, credence put on diversity initiatives, put on the diversity work that you may or may not be doing, or the diversity of your department, or the diversity of Because certainly if you've published 75 manuscripts in an abbreviated amount of time, absolutely.

00:17:30.000 But the Rooney rule, which we know doesn't work very well since there's not that many black, you know, head coaches, is also that they just have to interview them.

00:17:40.000 They don't have to hire them and they don't have to actually think about them, you know, on the same level.

00:17:45.000 They have to interview them.

00:17:47.000 And so I think that we're still on the same issue that if the white man or the white male chair is picking their successor or picking whoever it is, they're still going to gravitate towards the white male whatever.

00:18:00.000 And so the Rooney Rule, I think, is great, but it needs to go one step further.

00:18:05.000 And I'm sure that that's not going to be incredibly popular out in the world, but it's true because we know that just interviewing them isn't enough.

00:18:13.000 Because they're still not getting picked.

00:18:15.000 So people must be forced to select, forced to select black candidates or minority candidates or whomever, forced to pick that. 0.52

00:18:23.000 I love the fact that we are now living in this Orwellian world where she can assume that if a white chair of a medical association picks, say, an Asian person to replace them, that that is, in effect, white supremacy done through unconscious bias.

00:18:36.000 But if they openly pick somebody for race, then that is somehow a corrective.

00:18:41.000 In other words, you have to assume that the entire system is evil in order for you to perpetuate your own evil, which is to select people not on the basis of merit.

00:18:49.000 She literally says that it's one thing if you have 75 publications or whatever, but what about people who don't have 75?

00:18:55.000 What about the people who are just incompetent?

00:18:57.000 Why shouldn't they have a shot at being chief medical resident at Harvard? 0.54

00:19:01.000 Why not?

00:19:02.000 What exactly is the problem?

00:19:04.000 Well, I mean, listen, here's the problem.

00:19:06.000 The problem is that the third leading cause of death in the United States is medical error.

00:19:10.000 That is the third leading cause of death.

00:19:12.000 There are enough mistakes that get made in the operating room or in doctor's offices all around the country already.

00:19:18.000 The last thing that you need is to specifically go out of your way to put unqualified people in positions of power based on their race.

00:19:28.000 And whenever people say this sort of stuff, there's an accusation that what you're saying is racist.

00:19:30.000 No, what I am saying is the opposite of racist.

00:19:33.000 I am saying merit should decide.

00:19:35.000 Merit should decide.

00:19:36.000 The people who are advocating for DEI in these professions, they are the racists.

00:19:40.000 They are explicitly saying that race is the only relevant factor that should be able to overcome merit.

00:19:48.000 Again, this is dangerous stuff because people die all the time in hospitals.

00:19:51.000 People die all the time from medical malpractice, from medical error.

00:19:55.000 And going out of your way as a medical school or as a college of surgeons to suggest that DEI ought to be a governing principle?

00:20:02.000 There ought to be only one governing principle and one governing principle alone.

00:20:07.000 And that governing principle ought to be the merit of the doctor.

00:20:10.000 That's it.

00:20:10.000 There is no other governing principle.

00:20:13.000 As a patient, that is what I care about when I put my kids in the care of a doctor or a surgeon, God forbid.

00:20:19.000 The only thing I care about is whether that person is going to be able to take care of me or my kid.

00:20:24.000 I do not care at all about the race of the person. 0.78

00:20:27.000 And the fact that that colorblindness is now seen as racism, and that the corrective to that is actual racism, is totally insane and it's gonna get people killed. 0.93

00:20:35.000 It legitimately will get people killed.

00:20:37.000 You'll have incompetent people in positions of power specifically because of DEI.

00:20:42.000 And that particular philosophy is not, of course, relegated to the practice of medicine.

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00:21:49.000 It's a horrifying story over the weekend.

00:21:51.000 According to CNN, there has been suspect in the killing of an Augusta University

00:21:55.000 College of Nursing student at the University of Georgia campus in Athens.

00:22:00.000 The young woman's name was Laken Hope Riley, who was a junior on the Dean's List at Augusta University.

00:22:05.000 According to the University of Georgia Police Chief Jeff Clark, it was a crime of opportunity by an individual who woke up with bad intentions.

00:22:13.000 So who exactly is the alleged murderer?

00:22:17.000 While the police are recommending charges against a 26-year-old, including felony murder, false imprisonment, kidnapping, and concealing the death of another in Riley's killing.

00:22:27.000 Who exactly was the suspect?

00:22:29.000 Well, it turns out that the suspect was, wait for it, an illegal immigrant.

00:22:34.000 This person is undocumented.

00:22:39.000 Apparently, according to a member of the Georgia legislature, the suspect was in the country illegally having crossed the border in El Paso, Texas in 2022.

00:22:48.000 He was apprehended at the border and released into the United States.

00:22:52.000 Now again, that is the catch and release program the Biden administration has put in place.

00:22:55.000 This is all about DEI.

00:22:56.000 Remember, diverse people get to break the law. 1.00

00:22:58.000 That's the way that this works.

00:23:00.000 The suspect was arrested in Queens, New York for an injury to a child and having no license.

00:23:05.000 That was in September of 2023.

00:23:06.000 But again, New York City also has a DEI policy whereby they've decided that crime, an objective metric, is no longer sufficient to decide whether someone ought to go to jail or be deported.

00:23:17.000 If too many Black or Hispanic people are being arrested and or deported, well, that must mean that the system is broken and we have to get rid of the metric itself. 0.99

00:23:24.000 The suspect and his brother were cited in Athens, Clark County in October of 2023 for shoplifting.

00:23:30.000 The suspect even had an outstanding bench warrant as of December 2023 for failing to appear in court on the shoplifting charges.

00:23:37.000 The suspect's brother was charged yesterday by federal authorities for possessing a fraudulent green card.

00:23:43.000 The suspect's brother was arrested in Athens, Clark County, in September 2023 for a DUI, driving without a license, speeding, open container, and failure to yield to an emergency vehicle, and was arrested again in December.

00:23:55.000 So Joe Biden has taken up DEI at every level of his administration.

00:23:58.000 And that means with regard to immigration policy as well.

00:24:01.000 And people are dead because of it.

00:24:03.000 That is not to say that the vast majority of people who are crossing the border are criminals, other than the illegal crossing of the border.

00:24:09.000 It is to say that when you let people in and you don't vet them and you have no idea why they're here, and then you arrest them multiple times and release them without deporting them, people lie.

00:24:18.000 This should be very obvious stuff.

00:24:19.000 ICE put out a statement as well.

00:24:21.000 They say that the 26-year-old citizen of Venezuela was arrested by CBP September 8, 2022 after unlawfully entering the United States near El Paso, Texas.

00:24:30.000 He was paroled and released for further processing.

00:24:33.000 On September 14, 2023, he was arrested by the NYPD and charged.

00:24:39.000 He was released by the NYPD before any detainer could be issued.

00:24:42.000 And then on February 23, 2024, ERO Atlanta encountered this person pursuant to his arrest by the University of Georgia Police Department and being charged with murder and other crimes.

00:24:52.000 And finally, ERO Atlanta lodged a detainer.

00:24:58.000 This is the pure and obvious outcome of a horrific immigration policy undertaken by this administration.

00:25:04.000 None of this had to happen.

00:25:06.000 You know how we know it didn't have to happen?

00:25:07.000 Because Joe Biden is now considering taking executive action to stop it from happening.

00:25:10.000 Joe Biden now wants to change the definition of asylum at the border.

00:25:16.000 Tammy Duckworth, very liberal senator, she says that she would back Joe Biden's executive action to stop asylum claims, which, by the way, is in and of itself a tacit admission to all of the charges Republicans have been making about bad Democratic immigration policy. 0.68

00:25:34.000 The Biden administration is considering using executive action to make it harder for migrants to claim asylum.

00:25:40.000 Would you support that?

00:25:41.000 I would support that because we do have a crisis at the border.

00:25:44.000 But I also think that... Something Donald Trump tried.

00:25:47.000 Well, you know what?

00:25:47.000 Donald Trump has backed away from this.

00:25:49.000 As part of that package, there was more money for a whole bunch of things, to include a worker program so that people could actually go to work while they're waiting for their case to be adjudicated.

00:26:00.000 I think that is critically important, is a work permit for folks who come here and they want to work.

00:26:04.000 Well, let's put them to work.

00:26:05.000 I've got the ag industries looking for workers.

00:26:08.000 Retail is looking for workers.

00:26:09.000 While they're waiting for their case, let's allow them to work. 0.99

00:26:12.000 So, in that compromise, it's exactly that.

00:26:14.000 There was stuff that fixed the border problems, but also allowed us to let to be

00:26:20.000 humane about how we take care of the migrants who are here. 1.00

00:26:23.000 Again, even Democrats are now realizing what a political liability this is.

00:26:27.000 And they should. President Trump was on the attack about this over the weekend. He was

00:26:31.000 speaking at CPAC and he had talked about Joe Biden's immigration policy. And so it's funny

00:26:35.000 to watch Democrats decry Trump for saying what is obviously true here.

00:26:38.000 We have a new category, migrant crime, and it's going to be more severe than violent 1.00

00:26:44.000 crime and crime as we knew it.

00:26:47.000 Because we have millions and millions of people.

00:26:50.000 And they came from prisons and jails.

00:26:53.000 They came from mental institutions and insane asylums.

00:26:58.000 No, they're not the same thing.

00:27:00.000 An insane asylum is a mental institution on steroids, okay?

00:27:05.000 It's Silence of the Lambs.

00:27:08.000 Okay?

00:27:08.000 You know that.

00:27:09.000 Hannibal Lecter! 0.82

00:27:11.000 They're all being deposited Into our country, and then you have terrorists, and then you have drugs, and then you have human traffickers, and they're coming over at levels never seen before.

00:27:23.000 We've never seen anything like this.

00:27:25.000 The people who are getting outraged about Trump saying stuff like that seems to me should be a lot more outraged about the fact that, you know, illegal immigrants sometimes kill American citizens and they shouldn't be here. 1.00

00:27:34.000 That's what's truly outrageous.

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00:28:34.000 And this is what Trump is banking on for his reelect is that bottom line is Joe Biden has

00:28:40.000 been a terrible president and people have paid the price because Joe Biden is a terrible, 0.89

00:28:43.000 terrible president.

00:28:44.000 At CPAC, President Trump was saying that Joe Biden is directing the country toward collapse.

00:28:48.000 And certainly, when you look at the fact that at least 7.2 million people were encountered at the border under Joe Biden, millions more were not encountered.

00:28:56.000 So anywhere between 7 and 10 million people have probably entered the country illegally since Joe Biden took office.

00:29:02.000 I mean, those are awful numbers, and Trump is right to point it out, obviously.

00:29:07.000 If crooked Joe Biden and his thugs win in 2024, the worst is yet to come.

00:29:14.000 Our country will go and sink to levels that were unimaginable.

00:29:20.000 And just think about it.

00:29:22.000 With four more years of Biden, the hordes of illegal aliens stampeding across our borders will exceed 40 to 50 million people.

00:29:31.000 Medicare, Social Security, health care, and public education will buckle And collapse.

00:29:38.000 It will collapse.

00:29:39.000 As sure as you're sitting or standing there, it will collapse.

00:29:43.000 Our economy will be starved of energy by Crooked Joe's vindictive Green New Scam. 1.00

00:29:49.000 It's a Green New Scam. 0.99

00:29:52.000 It'll be the destruction of our country.

00:29:54.000 It is indeed a scam and most of them know it. 1.00

00:29:57.000 Some of them, the fools, believe it. 1.00

00:29:59.000 But most of them know it. 0.99

00:30:02.000 Okay, so President Trump, the media are trying to convince you that you should be so scared of President Trump's policy proposals.

00:30:09.000 That's what you should be scared of.

00:30:10.000 So they're taking two tacks with regard to Trump. 0.98

00:30:11.000 One is crazy orange man bad. 0.99

00:30:13.000 And the other is his policies are so scary and so terrible.

00:30:17.000 The problem is that Joe Biden's current policies are so bad that Trump's pledges to reverse those policies are so incredibly sane by comparison.

00:30:27.000 I mean, Trump—Politico is threatening us with a good time, so Politico has an entire piece titled, Beyond Shock and Awe, inside Trump's potential second-term agenda.

00:30:35.000 From nationwide abortion bans to classroom culture wars, assaults on climate science, and political weaponization of the military, his return to the White House could make Trump 1.0 seem tame.

00:30:43.000 Well, I mean, can we be frank about something?

00:30:45.000 Trump 1.0 was tame!

00:30:46.000 It was extremely tame!

00:30:48.000 Trump 1.0 in terms of policy was sane and tame, which is why, as of 2019, before the COVID pandemic, we had a booming economy, peace on the foreign front, and a fairly high level of domestic tranquility.

00:30:59.000 I noticed all of that.

00:31:00.000 Why?

00:31:01.000 Because it was pretty sane.

00:31:02.000 So if you're threatening me with more sanity, I don't know that that's much of a threat.

00:31:07.000 According to Politico, trying to scare the hell out of you, both supporters and critics of the ex-president predict a re-elected Trump would wage a more focused and aggressive attack on the status quo.

00:31:14.000 I mean, I can only hope so!

00:31:16.000 This time, they say, he would be far more knowledgeable about the mechanics of wielding executive power.

00:31:21.000 Having placed so many conservatives in federal judgeships, he would face less resistance from the court.

00:31:25.000 And he would be more determined to place loyalists, not rules-obsessed traditionalists, in senior roles.

00:31:30.000 Well, my guess is that he would actually be more interested in making sure that people who are lower down on the food chain were people who weren't attempting to, you know, destroy his presidency from within.

00:31:41.000 So what exactly is so scary?

00:31:43.000 Apparently, he is talking now about a 16-week abortion ban.

00:31:47.000 That is something that he is pushing.

00:31:50.000 That, by the way, is way later than virtually every country in Europe.

00:31:54.000 That's supposed to scare people?

00:31:56.000 He apparently also wants to go after federal climate science and ensure it can't be used to guide government policies.

00:32:02.000 Which, um, let's be clear about this.

00:32:04.000 It shouldn't be guiding executive policy if the legislature wants to make decisions to cripple the American economy based on the gradual warming of the climate over the next 100 years using measures that will not markedly decrease that warming and are heavily reliant on foreign countries to do the same.

00:32:19.000 Let the legislature do that and let your legislators be punished for it.

00:32:23.000 Why should the executive branch be responsible for doing all of that?

00:32:27.000 Trump also is going to target China.

00:32:31.000 He's going to put tariffs on China.

00:32:32.000 He said economic security is national security.

00:32:35.000 China does not allow American companies to take over their critical infrastructure.

00:32:37.000 America should not allow China to take over our critical infrastructure.

00:32:42.000 He said he would impose a four-year plan to phase out all Chinese imports of essential goods.

00:32:45.000 Everything from electronics to steel to pharmaceuticals.

00:32:48.000 I mean, again, Show me the lie.

00:32:52.000 Where is the problem with that?

00:32:53.000 Do you want to be reliant on Chinese pharmaceuticals?

00:32:55.000 What happens when China invades Taiwan?

00:32:57.000 What happens when the ability of Americans to get vital goods goes away because we didn't prepare for the possibility of that?

00:33:06.000 Politico is also trying to scare you that he's going to wage a classroom war.

00:33:08.000 Again, this is one of the left's favorite games, is that they declare war on something perfectly innocuous like a classroom by trying to sexualize children.

00:33:15.000 And then when you say no, you're waging a classroom war.

00:33:19.000 And this is all the stuff that's supposed to be scaring you?

00:33:22.000 I gotta tell you, I don't seem so scared about all of it.

00:33:25.000 I don't seem super scared about it.

00:33:28.000 Also, apparently, they're saying that Donald Trump is going to deploy U.S.

00:33:31.000 troops against Americans.

00:33:33.000 Well, no, actually, what he said is that if there is a riot, he might call the National Guard.

00:33:39.000 Which is pretty sane to me.

00:33:41.000 And as far as the notion that he's going to abandon NATO, that's not true.

00:33:45.000 What he says is that the members of NATO need to pay their fair share.

00:33:48.000 He doesn't mean that the United States is going to stop being a member of NATO.

00:33:51.000 And by the way, it's worked.

00:33:53.000 The members of NATO are upping their own defense spending.

00:33:56.000 And he's going to loosen the reins on crypto, God forbid.

00:33:58.000 Oh no, we have to make sure the government can stay.

00:34:00.000 Like, this is what the Democrats are trying to scare you with.

00:34:03.000 That's not going to work. 1.00

00:34:04.000 They're going to have to resort to prong number one again, which is Donald Trump, crazy person. 0.93

00:34:09.000 Now, this does not mean that Trump has a clear path ahead for the presidency. 0.87

00:34:14.000 There's a primary over the weekend in South Carolina.

00:34:15.000 We're going to get to that in just one second because it shows you kind of the strategies that are being attempted by both sides, Democrats and Republicans.

00:34:22.000 It's really focused on What we would call the low propensity voter.

00:34:27.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:35:37.000 Okay.

00:35:37.000 Meanwhile, So, Donald Trump right now has the advantage.

00:35:41.000 There's no question that he has the advantage in this election, and that's not really because of Trump so much as it is about Joe Biden.

00:35:46.000 Right now, in the RealClearPolitics polling average, Donald Trump is running fully 1.9 points ahead of Joe Biden.

00:35:52.000 At this point in the last election cycle, Joe Biden was running nearly 5 points ahead of Donald Trump, and of course, he only narrowly beat him in the Electoral College.

00:35:59.000 According to the brand new Harris X poll that is out over the course of the last few days, Trump is up four.

00:36:04.000 According to Economist YouGov, Trump is up one.

00:36:05.000 According to Morning Consult, Trump is up four.

00:36:07.000 If Trump is up in the popular vote, Trump's winning the election.

00:36:10.000 If Trump's even within a point in the popular vote, Trump is going to win the election.

00:36:14.000 So Trump is in pretty good shape, but he does have a problem.

00:36:17.000 The problem that he has is can he get low propensity voters to the polls because The Republican Party has traded high-propensity voters for low-propensity voters.

00:36:26.000 That's one of the things that has happened.

00:36:28.000 Now, Democrats have sort of done the same.

00:36:29.000 It's really weird.

00:36:30.000 Both parties have decided that the median voter, the high-propensity median voter, is no longer a person worth pursuing.

00:36:38.000 So if you look at the rates of voter turnout, it's not just, can you get a certain percentage of a population base to vote in your favor?

00:36:46.000 What percentage of whites or blacks or Latinos vote in your favor?

00:36:49.000 It's how often those groups vote.

00:36:51.000 Are they high propensity voters or are they low propensity voters?

00:36:54.000 And what you see is that in the United States, there are wide disparities between different groups based on age, based on race, based on education, based on family income, in who is a voter and who is a non-voter.

00:37:08.000 Huge disparities.

00:37:09.000 So if you take a look, for example, at 2022, right, the last election cycle, what you will see is that among voters, the number of 18 to 29s was really, really low.

00:37:22.000 27% of 18 to 29s did not vote in the 2022 election.

00:37:23.000 Only 10% did.

00:37:24.000 The same thing was true of 30 to 49-year-olds.

00:37:25.000 to 29s did not vote in the 2022 election. Only 10% did. The same thing was true of 30 to 49 year

00:37:31.000 olds. 37% of 30 to 49 year olds did not vote. They were represented 37% of the non-voters rather.

00:37:39.000 They represent only 26% of voters.

00:37:42.000 So the over-represented groups, in terms of people who vote versus people who don't vote, are people age 65+.

00:37:46.000 People who are age 65+, definitely benefit Trump. 0.93

00:37:50.000 So those are higher propensity voters.

00:37:51.000 However, there are other cross-cutting considerations.

00:37:54.000 So, for example, voters in 2022, whites are over-represented in terms of being high propensity voters.

00:38:01.000 voters. 75% of voters in 2022 were white, compared with 55% of non-voters.

00:38:13.000 9% were black, 9% were Hispanic, 3% were Asian.

00:38:17.000 Hispanics are wildly underrepresented.

00:38:19.000 They are a very low propensity group.

00:38:20.000 So if you are a Republican, you're counting on heavy Latino turnout to jog you to victory, or if you're a Democrat, doing the same.

00:38:28.000 That's a low propensity voting group. 0.52

00:38:30.000 Black Americans typically are a are a low-propensity voting group.

00:38:36.000 When it comes to education, however, you take a look at it. 0.90

00:38:38.000 So, whites, overrepresented.

00:38:39.000 Old people, overrepresented.

00:38:41.000 But, when it comes to education, who are those people?

00:38:44.000 They tend to be college graduates.

00:38:47.000 So, if you are a high school or less voter, that would be a lot of Trump white voters, are high school or less.

00:38:53.000 Very low-propensity voters.

00:38:54.000 Only 25% of voters in 2022 had a high school degree or less, in terms of education, compared to 43% of the people who did not vote.

00:39:04.000 If you have some college, then you're pretty much equally likely to vote and not vote.

00:39:08.000 If you are a college grad or a post-grad, you're significantly more likely to vote.

00:39:14.000 So this is why, for example, Democrats are focusing in on the views of their college-educated white ladies in the suburbs. 0.83

00:39:21.000 Those are very high-propensity voters.

00:39:22.000 But they're then accompanying that with low-propensity voters, Black and Hispanic voters. 0.89

00:39:28.000 In major urban areas, for example.

00:39:29.000 That's a weird coalition.

00:39:31.000 Meanwhile, Republicans have also built a weird coalition.

00:39:34.000 Their weird coalition is high-propensity voters, namely old white people, but also very low-propensity voters, namely high school educated, poor white people, who are also less likely to vote.

00:39:44.000 So you have a coalition in both parties of some high-propensity voters and a lot of low-propensity voters.

00:39:48.000 So the question is, how do you get your low-propensity voters to vote?

00:39:52.000 That's the real question.

00:39:54.000 Because neither party can afford to lose a lot here.

00:39:57.000 Okay, so if you are Donald Trump, how do you get those low propensity voters out to the polls?

00:40:01.000 Well, Donald Trump actually does have a habit of getting low propensity high school educated white males, for example, out to vote in broader numbers.

00:40:10.000 Can Joe Biden do the same with minorities?

00:40:12.000 It's the reason right now why he's trying to capitulate to Hamas.

00:40:15.000 It's the reason why he's playing footsie with the radicals in Michigan.

00:40:21.000 It's the reason why he refuses to take measures that would crack down on illegal immigration up till now.

00:40:27.000 He's trying to please a low-propensity voting group, young people, very low-propensity voting group.

00:40:32.000 He's trying to please those people and low-propensity voting groups like black Americans. 0.99

00:40:38.000 He thinks that if he caters to that voting group, they will show up in broader... Low-propensity means likelihood to vote.

00:40:44.000 Typically, the way that you win an election, if you want to win an election, you get everybody who is like 60% or up in terms of voting for you to get to the polls, and then you convince everybody who's like 40% or up on voting for you to get to the polls.

00:40:55.000 Those would be independents very often.

00:40:57.000 People who vote a lot, but you're not sure which way they're going to vote.

00:40:59.000 Nobody is aiming at the median voter anymore.

00:41:02.000 It's pretty impressive how everyone is steadfastly ignoring the median voter.

00:41:05.000 Which is, for example, why Nikki Haley pulls really well in general election terms. 1.00

00:41:10.000 Because in terms of her positioning, she's actually closer to, quote unquote, the median voter. 1.00

00:41:16.000 Now, does that mean that she would ever win a primary inside the Republican Party?

00:41:18.000 The answer, of course, is no, which is what happened in South Carolina the other day.

00:41:21.000 So in South Carolina, Donald Trump blew Nikki Haley away.

00:41:24.000 He won a 20-point victory over Nikki Haley in South Carolina's Republican primary.

00:41:28.000 That, of course, is where she was the governor. 0.99

00:41:30.000 That was her home state.

00:41:32.000 Americans for Prosperity Action told its staff Sunday it would stop supporting her financially.

00:41:36.000 So this race is effectively over for her. 0.72

00:41:38.000 She doesn't have the money to keep running. 1.00

00:41:41.000 She says she's going to continue to stay in.

00:41:42.000 I assume the reason that she is staying in is because she believes that if she stays in and if Donald Trump gets the nomination, then he loses.

00:41:49.000 She's going to be able to say, listen, I offered you an alternative.

00:41:51.000 Try me.

00:41:52.000 Give me a shot next time around, because she obviously isn't going to win the nomination this time. 0.94

00:41:55.000 Here's Nikki Haley.

00:41:57.000 I said earlier this week that no matter what happens in South Carolina, I would continue to run for president.

00:42:05.000 I'm not giving up this fight when a majority of Americans disapprove of both Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

00:42:14.000 OK, and then she says that Donald Trump drives people away.

00:42:19.000 And by polling data, she is correct.

00:42:21.000 Donald Trump is a highly polarizing figure that given Joe Biden's myriad failures as president of the United States, Trump should be up 10 points over Joe Biden at this point, even though he is up very slightly in the polls right now.

00:42:32.000 So what can Trump do to fix that?

00:42:34.000 We'll talk about that in a second.

00:42:35.000 Here is Nikki Haley.

00:42:37.000 This has never been about me or my political future.

00:42:44.000 We need to beat Joe Biden in November.

00:42:47.000 I don't believe Donald Trump can beat Joe Biden.

00:42:54.000 Nearly every day, Trump drives people away.

00:43:00.000 Including with his comments just yesterday.

00:43:04.000 Okay, that may very well be true.

00:43:06.000 Trump himself says that he has never seen the Republican Party as unified as it is right now, but that obviously is not true.

00:43:12.000 I mean, he is the incumbent president.

00:43:14.000 He only won by, when I say only, that's a big victory, 20 points, but theoretically he should win 80-20, not 60-40.

00:43:20.000 That means that 40% of the people who voted in the South Carolina primary did not want Trump.

00:43:24.000 Now, it is an open primary.

00:43:25.000 There are Democrats who are voting in that primary, but not everybody who voted for Nikki Haley is a Democrat.

00:43:31.000 Here is Trump talking about the unity inside the party.

00:43:34.000 Now there's a spirit that I have never seen.

00:43:37.000 We ran two great races.

00:43:40.000 But there's never been, ever, there's never been a spirit like this.

00:43:44.000 And I just want to say that I have never seen the Republican Party so unified as it is right now.

00:43:52.000 Never been like that.

00:43:55.000 So what is Trump's strategy going to be here?

00:43:57.000 Well, some people think that he's going to try to diversify out his base by picking somebody like Tim Scott for vice president.

00:44:03.000 I think the answer here for Trump really is that I think that he figures he's got everybody in the low propensity category who's going to vote voting.

00:44:11.000 Maybe he tacks to the middle in terms of position and hopes that independent voter breaks for him.

00:44:16.000 What it seems like he's really counting on more than anything else is for Biden not to be able to turn out the low propensity voter.

00:44:21.000 That's not a terrible bet.

00:44:22.000 It just means the election is going to be really, really close.

00:44:23.000 When you're betting on the other side to fail as opposed to yourself to succeed, that can be a very serious problem.

00:44:29.000 It also doesn't help when you have people like Mike Lindell, who's obviously a big Trump backer, out there telling people not to vote by mail.

00:44:35.000 Like, just, dude, stop.

00:44:36.000 Stop.

00:44:37.000 If you want Trump to win, you need Republicans voting by mail, and you need them voting early.

00:44:41.000 Like, just get them to vote.

00:44:43.000 But here's what we're loaded for now that we didn't have then.

00:44:47.000 The RNC, yeah, they got a lot of problems, but one of the things that they did do, when I ran for RNC chair last year, what came out of that, this August, the RNC passed a resolution, paper ballots, hand-counted, same-day voting, no early voting.

00:45:04.000 Um, and by the way, anybody that tells you to vote early is wrong.

00:45:08.000 You vote same day.

00:45:10.000 I'm telling you that gets harder for them to cheat.

00:45:12.000 Okay.

00:45:15.000 Uh, or vote early or, you know, get your ballot counted like now because Democrats will.

00:45:23.000 Okay.

00:45:23.000 Meanwhile, in the best media story of the weekend, Chaya Raycheck, who's libs of TikTok.

00:45:30.000 She actually sat down with Taylor Lorenz.

00:45:31.000 Now, Taylor Lorenz happens to be a faux reporter who spends all of her time these days basically tracking down Chaya Raycheck. 1.00

00:45:40.000 It's like what she spends all of her time doing.

00:45:44.000 So, she is a columnist for the Washington Post.

00:45:47.000 She used to report for the New York Times.

00:45:50.000 And she has been spending all of her time trying to basically blame Chaya for anything bad happening in the country.

00:45:55.000 That if somebody follows Chaya on her Twitter account, and all Chaya does on her Twitter account is expose people on the left for doing what they're doing.

00:46:02.000 It's amazing to me, the hatred for Chaya for literally taking videos of people on TikTok and then just exposing them to a broader audience. 0.64

00:46:08.000 It's not like she's breaking secret video.

00:46:10.000 These people are putting up videos of themselves talking about transing the kids.

00:46:13.000 She takes it, she grants a broader exposure, and suddenly people react. 1.00

00:46:16.000 Again, it is just that stupid left-wing game, writ large of, oh my God, you notice that means you're bad. 0.98

00:46:22.000 Well, now there's a 53-minute long interview with Chaya Raychek between Taylor Lorenz and Chaya Raychek 0.99

00:46:29.000 in which Chaya really kind of shellacks Lorenz because she asks her, you know, you seem to think,

00:46:35.000 for example, that it's okay to show pornography You seem to think that it is fine to blame me for all of the activities of people who follow me, which is a weird thing for anyone in journalism to believe.

00:46:49.000 So here is Taylor Lorenz.

00:46:50.000 By the way, she's wearing a mask outdoor in 2024. 0.99

00:46:53.000 Like, come on, this is not a sane and rational human being.

00:46:57.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm wondering, like, Like, why you don't speak up about the sexualization of kids?

00:47:03.000 I don't think it's a problem.

00:47:05.000 I don't see, I guess I don't see as much.

00:47:06.000 If I saw an example of a child being sexualized, of course I have a problem with, you know, certain things.

00:47:11.000 I will, I will actually, you know, I will say... So do you think we should give kids born in school the images of, like, gay sex? 0.93

00:47:19.000 I went to public school, and in public school, at least when I was growing up, we were absolutely given literature explaining sex, educating people. 0.99

00:47:30.000 It had pictures of anal sex? 0.99

00:47:31.000 Oh, absolutely. 0.99

00:47:32.000 And it actually talked about condom use.

00:47:34.000 What grade?

00:47:36.000 But I mean, I don't remember, but certainly, probably middle school.

00:47:40.000 I think that's when we had sex ed.

00:47:42.000 So you think like books like Gender Queer, This Book is Gay, we should give that to kids in school?

00:47:46.000 I have not read those books, so I don't know.

00:47:48.000 But I do think that it's important to educate kids about sexuality.

00:47:52.000 It's very important for teachers to educate small children about sexuality.

00:47:55.000 By the way, she's lying.

00:47:56.000 Tara Lorenz is like 65 years old. 0.99

00:47:59.000 She refuses to say her age, by the way, which is hysterical to me because she's still covering the kids. 0.96

00:48:03.000 So she refuses to say how old she actually is, Taylor Lorenz.

00:48:07.000 And for those who can't see the clip, Chai is hysterical.

00:48:10.000 She's wearing sunglasses and a t-shirt of Taylor Lorenz crying, which is pretty spectacular. 0.86

00:48:15.000 In any case, no.

00:48:16.000 The answer is no.

00:48:18.000 So I also went to public school.

00:48:20.000 I assume that Taylor Lorenz is around my age range. 0.98

00:48:24.000 And I can tell you that the other kids in my class, in the sex ed class, were not being exposed to graphic pictures of anal sex. 0.98

00:48:31.000 That was not a thing. 0.63

00:48:32.000 It was not a thing in 1997 or whenever it was that I was in middle school.

00:48:37.000 Not a thing.

00:48:38.000 And yet she claims that it is. 0.99

00:48:41.000 And then Taylor Lorenz claims that, you know, if parents want a kid to chop off their genitals, that's fine too. 0.96

00:48:45.000 And these are the people who represent you in the legacy media. 0.98

00:48:47.000 They're out of their minds. 0.99

00:48:49.000 Some of your audience says we should chop off kids' body parts. 0.99

00:48:51.000 What do you think about that? 0.81

00:48:54.000 I don't know what you're talking about. 0.98

00:48:56.000 Like a girl says she wants to be a boy, so she chops off her breasts. 1.00

00:49:00.000 I'm a big, you know, I believe in personal liberty and bodily autonomy, personally. 0.99

00:49:05.000 So kids should be able to cut off their breasts if they think that they're boys? 1.00

00:49:08.000 I mean, I believe in gender ideology. 0.79

00:49:10.000 I guess I personally, my feeling is that I believe in personal liberty.

00:49:15.000 She believes in personal liberty for 13 and 14 year olds and for parents who wish to destroy their children's lives.

00:49:23.000 She also says that she's not concerned about open borders.

00:49:25.000 Again, this person was a reporter for the New York Times.

00:49:27.000 You think bias doesn't matter?

00:49:28.000 It absolutely matters.

00:49:31.000 There were some minds over the past three years that there were more illegals coming into our border than children being born in the U.S.

00:49:40.000 Is that not, does that not look like they're trying to replace us?

00:49:44.000 I guess, sort of imagine America as a melting pot.

00:49:49.000 Isn't that sort of what America was founded on?

00:49:51.000 No, but they're actually bringing in more people than are actually being born.

00:49:56.000 And the point that Chaya is making here is that they're not assimilating. 0.95

00:49:58.000 And in fact, the left-wing position is that people should not assimilate.

00:50:00.000 Finally, here's the best part.

00:50:02.000 Taylor Lorenzkin, member of the media.

00:50:04.000 The media is deeply reliant on the fact that you are not held responsible for the acts of people who read your work.

00:50:09.000 If that were true, the media literally could not exist.

00:50:11.000 It would not be possible.

00:50:12.000 She says she wants Chaya to be responsible for anyone who watches her content now.

00:50:17.000 Do you think that there's a difference between doing journalism on a completely private figure that has no public presence and no institutional power versus reporting on a powerful public institution or person?

00:50:28.000 You still didn't answer the question.

00:50:30.000 Is the journalist responsible for reporting for any actions that happen after the reporting?

00:50:35.000 Personally, I think that journalists should take care and should consider the framing.

00:50:43.000 And I think that they should do their best not to Not to appear as if they encourage that sort of behavior.

00:50:51.000 I've noticed that you haven't necessarily publicly condemned that behavior, publicly told your supporters, listen guys, stop calling in these bomb threats.

00:51:00.000 Who said it's my followers?

00:51:01.000 Do you have information that it's my followers?

00:51:04.000 I guess, who else's followers would it be?

00:51:06.000 I don't know.

00:51:07.000 There's 300 million people in this country.

00:51:09.000 So you post, bomb threats follow, and you're saying it might be just unrelated people?

00:51:14.000 I have no idea.

00:51:16.000 I mean, that's correct!

00:51:17.000 That's crazy!

00:51:18.000 So Taylor Lorenz, she's supposed to be a journalist, and her standard is, it must be somebody I believe that it is, without any evidence.

00:51:25.000 And you should apologize for that. 0.68

00:51:27.000 Totally insane.

00:51:28.000 And these are the people in the legacy media.

00:51:30.000 There's a reason we all hate the legacy media.

00:51:32.000 It's hard to think of people who are worse than the legacy media, to be totally honest with you.

00:51:37.000 I mean, and it's across the board, just the disconnect.

00:51:39.000 The disconnect between our legacy media and the American public is utterly wild.

00:51:43.000 For example, here is a political reporter on MSNBC explaining that anyone who believes in God-given rights is actually a Christian nationalist.

00:51:50.000 So this is what the left does.

00:51:51.000 They take an actual term, and then they broaden out the definition to include everyone they hate, right?

00:51:57.000 So white supremacy is a term with a meaning.

00:51:59.000 And then they expand that out to include anyone Who thinks, for example, that meritocracy is good. 0.78

00:52:06.000 You are now a white supremacist.

00:52:07.000 So, Christian nationalism is a term with an actual meaning.

00:52:11.000 And what it typically means is something akin to theocracy.

00:52:14.000 That law should be Christian in orientation. 0.96

00:52:16.000 Not just that it should take its values from Christianity.

00:52:20.000 Which is something that I generally agree with in the United States.

00:52:24.000 Not that you should be mandated to go to church because there is a separation of church and state to that extent, but that the moral underpinning of the United States of America is rooted in Christian theology.

00:52:34.000 I mean, there's no question that that is true.

00:52:36.000 And by the way, so is secularism in the West.

00:52:39.000 They're roots, historically, in Christianity, clearly.

00:52:43.000 But what they say is that Christian nationalism means Anything that invokes God is now Christian nationalism. 0.99

00:52:49.000 So that's how you end up with this idiotic reporter, Heidi Prisbilla, trying to claim that the Declaration of Independence is a Christian nationalist document. 0.88

00:52:58.000 The one thing that unites all of them, because there's many different groups orbiting Trump, but the thing that unites them as Christian nationalists, not Christians, by the way, because Christian nationalists is very different, is that they believe that our rights as Americans, as all human beings, don't come from any earthly authority. 0.97

00:53:16.000 They don't come from Congress.

00:53:16.000 They don't come from the Supreme Court.

00:53:18.000 They come from God.

00:53:20.000 You mean like the Declaration of Independence?

00:53:24.000 That's literally the Declaration of Independence.

00:53:25.000 She's calling a Christian nationalist document now.

00:53:28.000 Because again, if you are on the right, you are just whatever is the evil term of the day.

00:53:33.000 By the way, the corollary to what she's saying is that the only way to be not a Christian internationalist is to believe that rights come from government.

00:53:39.000 That the government grants you rights.

00:53:41.000 Which of course is ridiculous, because that assumes that all power innately resides not with the people, not with individuals, not with families, not with communities, but with the government.

00:53:49.000 That's not the way that it works.

00:53:50.000 The entire basis for American government is that we granted government certain specified powers in the Constitution of the United States.

00:53:56.000 Specified powers, not unlimited powers.

00:53:59.000 And that we reserve rights to ourselves.

00:54:02.000 And that if the government invades those rights, the government has failed to do its job, and in fact has destroyed its reason for existence.

00:54:09.000 But that's now, I guess, a Christian nationalist perspective.

00:54:11.000 So, good news guys, I guess I'm now a Christian nationalist, if that's the way that that works.

00:54:15.000 Alrighty, folks.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - February 26, 2024

DEI Could Get You Killed In The Operating Room

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