The Ben Shapiro Show - Did Trump Just Give Away The Border? | The Ben Shapiro Show Ep. 383

00:00:00.000 Tonight, in Berkeley, be there or be square, we will be live broadcasting the entire thing and I'll give you the update.

00:00:05.000 Plus, President Trump, he just made a deal with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer on the border.

00:00:11.000 Or did he?

00:00:12.000 But yeah, he sort of did.

00:00:14.000 We'll talk about all of those things.

00:00:15.000 Plus, we'll do a little bit about big ideas on today's Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:19.000 I am Ben Shapiro.

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00:00:30.000 Yes, I'm going to Berkeley this afternoon, so that will be a party, and I'm about to give you the update on that.

00:00:36.000 I have to say, for little old me, they are doing a fair bit of security work.

00:00:40.000 It's pretty amazing.

00:00:41.000 I have some video of it that I want to show you, and I also want to give you the full analysis of Donald Trump doing what those of us who always thought he was going to do

00:00:50.000 you know this actually he did it okay so finally we've been saying for a year that donald trump was never going to really build this wall that the wall was basically something he was just saying during the campaign he'd build sections of the wall that it was all just a campaign slogan that he was shouting uh and now it appears he cut a deal with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer to legalize the dreamers and not get funding for the border wall so mega mega mega mega okay so we'll get to all of that but first

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00:02:18.000 I'm gonna get to Trump and Schumer and Pelosi, the happy gang, the bunch of buddies.

00:02:24.000 We'll get to them in just one second.

00:02:25.000 But first, I'm gonna give you the update on Berkeley.

00:02:27.000 So, it is now obvious that the police are expecting some bad stuff to happen.

00:02:33.000 There are apparently two protests that are supposed to happen tomorrow at Berkeley.

00:02:35.000 Oh, today at Berkeley, rather.

00:02:37.000 One is a protest directed against yours truly, and the other is directed against the police themselves, which should be a lot of fun.

00:02:44.000 Here's some of the tape of the preparations that are being made for security over in Berkeley this evening from the local news.

00:02:53.000 If you can't see, they're literally setting up KBAR in front of Zellerbach Hall, which is where I'm going to be speaking.

00:03:01.000 They're doing this in the middle of the night, setting up these cement barriers.

00:03:06.000 They were doing this for blocks around, apparently.

00:03:08.000 They're blocking off a main street in Berkeley today.

00:03:12.000 All for me!

00:03:13.000 And I understand, I'm a physically imposing specimen.

00:03:16.000 But still, this seems a little weird.

00:03:20.000 Listen, I guess that if you use Democrat Keynesian economics, then you have to acknowledge, I'm creating more jobs in Berkeley than the current mayor of Berkeley.

00:03:29.000 Look at this, I'm creating infrastructure jobs.

00:03:31.000 Just by visiting, I'm creating infrastructure jobs.

00:03:34.000 Berkeley is saying that 0.97

00:03:35.000 For upcoming security events, my event, the free speech week that's happening next week, they're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on security, all because Antifa is insane and because leftists are totally crazy.

00:03:46.000 So, the good news is that Berkeley looks like they're taking seriously the security issue.

00:03:51.000 The bad news is that Berkeley is going to build a wall before Trump does.

00:03:54.000 Like, long before Trump does.

00:03:55.000 Because the other big news today is that President Trump appears to have cut a deal

00:04:00.000 When Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer over DACA, that'd be President Obama's executive amnesty.

00:04:04.000 So here is what Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer said yesterday after emerging from a meeting with President Trump.

00:04:10.000 Okay, this is their press release.

00:04:17.000 We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly and to work out a package of border security excluding the wall that's acceptable to both sides.

00:04:24.000 We also urged the president to make permanent the cost-sharing reduction payments and those discussions will continue.

00:04:30.000 That last is a reference to Obamacare.

00:04:33.000 It was acknowledged last night in little, really little covered news that Trump was looking to move toward fixing Obamacare rather than repealing and replacing it.

00:04:41.000 That went by the wayside because everybody is very upset over the amnesty stuff.

00:04:44.000 And what they are talking about here is amnesty.

00:04:47.000 And even Trump's most ardent allies are really ticked about it.

00:04:51.000 So the headline last night over at Breitbart was Amnesty Don.

00:04:55.000 Amnesty Don.

00:04:56.000 Five seconds ago Steve Bannon was saying that he was Trump's most ardent ally, now it's Amnesty Don.

00:05:01.000 Ann Coulter, the author of the bestseller In Trump We Trust,

00:05:05.000 Now tweets, quote, at this point, who doesn't want Trump impeached?

00:05:08.000 So that's a rather abrupt about face.

00:05:10.000 Even Sean Hannity was saying that this is not a good deal for Trump.

00:05:14.000 He, of course, blamed Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell because that's the way that this works.

00:05:17.000 Basically, a lot of, I will say a solid number of people in Trump's base

00:05:23.000 have turned into Mongo from Blazing Saddles.

00:05:25.000 And if they're mad, they just punch a horse.

00:05:27.000 And the horse happens to be Mitch McConnell or Paul Ryan.

00:05:28.000 And these tweets, I mean, here's what Sean tweeted.

00:05:30.000 So let me get this straight.

00:05:31.000 They stood up to Obama's executive amnesty for years and held it up in the courts.

00:05:47.000 But Trump making a deal with the Democrats is their fault because MAGA MAGA underwater chess backgammon McHungry Hungry Hippos MAGA.

00:05:56.000 And then he says weak Republicans have betrayed voters.

00:05:58.000 POTUS needs to stay the course and keep his promises or it's over.

00:06:01.000 Pelosi and Schumer can never be trusted.

00:06:04.000 Okay, if they can never be trusted, then why is Trump making these moves?

00:06:07.000 So, Pelosi, what's really funny about this is that Trump obviously desires the love and respect of a lot of people on the left.

00:06:16.000 And he thinks he can earn it by giving them what they want.

00:06:18.000 Nancy Pelosi yesterday was ripping into Trump. 1.00

00:06:20.000 I mean, basically comparing him to FDR interning Japanese people during World War II.

00:06:25.000 She was doing this, and five seconds later, Trump was cutting a deal with her.

00:06:28.000 So a week and a half ago I was in Chicago and I saw this art exhibit that I was invited to see.

00:06:36.000 It's called, and then they came for me.

00:06:40.000 And it's about the internment of the Japanese-American

00:06:46.000 Patriots in our country who were interned into camps during World War II.

00:06:53.000 While their family members were fighting for freedom for America and for the world in World War II, they were in camps.

00:07:01.000 And they came for me.

00:07:03.000 And now, they're coming for the Dreamers. 0.98

00:07:07.000 Okay, so she was saying this five minutes ago, then she goes to the White House and she convinces Trump, because he's a big heart for the Dreamers, as we know, that she has to cut a deal with him.

00:07:15.000 The only leverage Trump has to get his border wall funded is this.

00:07:18.000 This is his leverage, okay?

00:07:19.000 It's not like there are lots of opportunities for him to use his leverage in the future.

00:07:22.000 I know there are a lot of folks who are big Trump fans, Bill Mitchell, big Trump fan, saying, well, we just have to wait for him to negotiate.

00:07:28.000 He has already not funded the border wall in the $1.1 trillion budget he signed earlier this year.

00:07:33.000 He did not attempt to fund the border wall in raising the debt ceiling.

00:07:36.000 He did not attempt to fund the border wall in extending the budget for another three months.

00:07:40.000 He is now not attempting to fund the border wall in DACA.

00:07:43.000 So where exactly is his leverage?

00:07:44.000 Where'd the leverage go?

00:07:45.000 The answer is there is no leverage.

00:07:46.000 The border wall appears to have been largely BS.

00:07:49.000 It's sort of like Obama saying that he was going to close down Gitmo and then never closing down Gitmo.

00:07:54.000 Trump is basically, so initially after all of this broke last night, the White House said, hey, we didn't reach a deal.

00:08:00.000 Okay, we didn't reach a deal.

00:08:01.000 Trump, he may have talked about this stuff with Pelosi and Schumer, but we definitely did not make a deal along these lines.

00:08:07.000 Then Trump got up and he started tweeting.

00:08:10.000 Here's what he tweeted.

00:08:12.000 No deal was made last night on DACA.

00:08:14.000 Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent.

00:08:18.000 We'd be subject to vote.

00:08:20.000 Okay, well, but, wait a second, you said there's no deal reached, and then the next, the exact next sentence, you say, massive border security would have to be agreed to.

00:08:30.000 Not a wall, massive border security.

00:08:32.000 So that's exactly what Schumer and Pelosi said.

00:08:34.000 Then he said, this is really amazing, the wall, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built.

00:08:44.000 That's not building the wall.

00:08:46.000 That's renovating existing fences.

00:08:48.000 I don't remember the large crowds of people chanting, Build the new renovation of old and existing fences and walls!

00:08:57.000 Build the new renovation of old and existing fences and walls!

00:09:01.000 Now admittedly, it's a bit of a mouthful.

00:09:03.000 But, um, that's not what they were chanting.

00:09:04.000 And Trump himself said during the campaign, he used build the wall as his go-to.

00:09:08.000 He said this openly in interviews.

00:09:10.000 He said it to the New York Times.

00:09:11.000 He said, you know, when my crowd gets bored, all I have to do is say build the wall and they go crazy.

00:09:15.000 They go crazy.

00:09:16.000 So it was always a slogan.

00:09:17.000 Then Trump starts going full-on lefty.

00:09:19.000 Okay, here's what he says.

00:09:20.000 He says, does anybody really want to throw out good, educated, and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military?

00:09:26.000 Really?

00:09:27.000 Um, you.

00:09:28.000 Five seconds ago.

00:09:30.000 Five seconds ago.

00:09:31.000 A lot of members of your base.

00:09:33.000 Five seconds ago.

00:09:34.000 Okay, Donald Trump campaigned on this.

00:09:36.000 He kept saying, we either have a country or we don't, right?

00:09:39.000 I mean, you remember this.

00:09:40.000 You were here!

00:09:41.000 Okay, the gaslighting is so irritating. 1.00

00:09:44.000 The gaslighting is so stupid. 1.00

00:09:45.000 We were all here. 1.00

00:09:47.000 We were all present.

00:09:48.000 We were all accounted for.

00:09:50.000 Okay, we were all watching this.

00:09:51.000 It was the most watched election in American history.

00:09:53.000 We all remember what you said.

00:09:55.000 But now, Trump is swiveling about face, and then he says,

00:09:58.000 They've been in our country for many years through no fault of their own, brought in by parents at young age, plus big border security.

00:10:04.000 Okay, he should finish this by saying, please clap.

00:10:07.000 This is low-energy Jeb.

00:10:09.000 They should put an exclamation point, a wilting exclamation point, after Trump's name because of this.

00:10:14.000 This is exactly Jeb Bush's policy.

00:10:17.000 Like, word for word, Jeb Bush's policy.

00:10:19.000 And Jeb Bush's defense of the policy.

00:10:21.000 It was Marco Rubio's policy.

00:10:23.000 Donald Trump spent four years ripping Rubio and Jeb and even Cruz, saying, you guys are not sufficiently tough on border security.

00:10:30.000 And then he walks across the aisle and talks to Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer?

00:10:34.000 And people are blaming Ryan and McConnell for this somehow?

00:10:37.000 Maybe Donald Trump is, one, not a very good negotiator, and two, desperately wants the approval of Democrats because he's sort of a career Democrat.

00:10:45.000 Maybe that's the problem here.

00:10:46.000 Okay, not that anybody could predict anything like this or anything.

00:10:49.000 I mean, who could have possibly predicted that this would actually be

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00:12:21.000 Who could have predicted this sort of policy?

00:12:24.000 Who possibly could have predicted this?

00:12:26.000 What would you say if you knew somebody who'd written in, say, May 2016, like May 25th, 2016, quote,

00:12:36.000 After being informed by his advisors that such a wall would actually look more like sections of barrier punctuated by high-tech touch fences, Trump would also quietly concede.

00:12:43.000 He would build sections that resemble a wall, mostly for symbolic purposes.

00:12:47.000 Trump would probably staff up ICE, but we'd see no mass deportations.

00:12:50.000 He would revoke President Obama's DACA, but he would not replace it with a harsh enforcement operation.

00:12:54.000 The costs and political blowback would be too steep.

00:12:56.000 Despite promises to do so, Trump would not dramatically curtail the number of high-tech visas handed out.

00:13:00.000 He's made clear he believes American wages are already too high.

00:13:03.000 Trump would, however, implement new restrictions on immigration from Muslim countries.

00:13:07.000 Who could have predicted such a thing?

00:13:09.000 Can you think of anyone who would have predicted such a thing, say, more than a year ago, just by watching what Trump was saying?

00:13:15.000 Hmm?

00:13:16.000 Who?

00:13:17.000 Here's a clue.

00:13:18.000 It's me.

00:13:19.000 Okay?

00:13:19.000 That's it.

00:13:21.000 This is not hard to predict.

00:13:21.000 That's the point, okay?

00:13:22.000 And this is not me just patting myself on the back, although I do love doing that.

00:13:25.000 The fact is that what happened here was utterly predictable if you did not actually want to... if you did not actually want to deceive yourself here.

00:13:34.000 So people who are very disappointed today, it's because you weren't watching closely. 0.94

00:13:37.000 I understand you were hopeful, and you can still say, look it still applies, better than Hillary, still applies, because honest to God, dog feces in the presidency would be better than Hillary. 0.65

00:13:44.000 But that's not the question.

00:13:45.000 The question right now is, did Trump just break his key campaign promise?

00:13:48.000 And the answer is pretty clearly yes.

00:13:51.000 I mean listen to how Trump is talking about this.

00:13:52.000 So Trump is now saying that everyone agrees on Obama's executive amnesty.

00:13:56.000 I was here when he was saying it had to go.

00:13:59.000 I was here when he used to say things like America first, we either have a border or we don't, people are going to have to leave.

00:14:04.000 Now what's he saying?

00:14:05.000 Something completely different.

00:14:06.000 Take this and listen to what Trump has to say here.

00:14:09.000 We want to get massive border security, and I think that both Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, I think they agree with it.

00:14:18.000 So we met last night with, as you know, Schumer, Pelosi, and a whole group, and I think we're fairly close, but we have to get massive border security.

00:14:31.000 Oh, I think he's on board, yeah.

00:14:32.000 Mitch is on board, Paul Ryan's on board.

00:14:35.000 We all feel, look, 92% of the people agree on DACA.

00:14:40.000 But what we want is we want very, very powerful border security.

00:14:46.000 92% of the people agree on DACA.

00:14:48.000 Okay, but those weren't the people who voted for you, and those were the people who you were saying were going to be pleased with your presidency.

00:14:56.000 Honest to God, if you just read what Trump said in Obama's voice, it's totally Obama's line of thinking.

00:15:04.000 Right, just read this tweet.

00:15:05.000 We need big border security for sure, but Mitch is on board, Paul Ryan is on board, we all feel.

00:15:08.000 Look, 92% of people agree on DACA.

00:15:23.000 When you read it in Obama's voice, suddenly you start getting pissed, don't you?

00:15:26.000 Because it's Obama's policy.

00:15:28.000 I do love in that clip where Trump starts to say Nancy, and then he shifts and realizes he shouldn't say Nancy, he should say Pelosi.

00:15:33.000 Because it makes him sound like he's getting close with Chuck and Nancy.

00:15:36.000 It's pretty amazing.

00:15:37.000 And then, he was asked about this again.

00:15:40.000 And listen to this, listen to this.

00:15:42.000 This little lie here, this is pretty amazing.

00:15:45.000 He's asked about amnesty, because this is amnesty, okay guys?

00:15:48.000 When you talk about giving legal citizenship to all of the people who are here illegally, that is amnesty. 0.98

00:15:53.000 Here's Trump.

00:15:54.000 Your response to amnesty?

00:15:56.000 We're not looking at citizenship.

00:15:57.000 We're not looking at amnesty.

00:15:59.000 We're looking at allowing people to stay here.

00:16:03.000 We're working with everybody.

00:16:05.000 Republican.

00:16:06.000 We're working with Democrat.

00:16:07.000 I just spoke with Paul Ryan.

00:16:09.000 He's on board.

00:16:09.000 Everybody's on board.

00:16:11.000 They want to do something.

00:16:12.000 We're not talking about amnesty.

00:16:15.000 Do you get that?

00:16:16.000 We're not talking about amnesty anymore.

00:16:17.000 This is exactly what Marco Rubio used to say.

00:16:19.000 It's what the Gang of Eight used to say.

00:16:20.000 It's not amnesty.

00:16:22.000 It's the path to legalization.

00:16:23.000 I mean, they just get to stay here.

00:16:24.000 And everyone's like, wait, no, no, no, that's amnesty.

00:16:26.000 Now Trump says it.

00:16:27.000 Oh, well, I guess if he says it's not amnesty, he should know.

00:16:30.000 I mean, if it's not amnesty, it's not am... 0.99

00:16:32.000 Don't be a fool. 0.98

00:16:34.000 Of course it's amnesty, and of course Trump was going to do this, and of course Trump did do this. 1.00

00:16:38.000 What does this say?

00:16:39.000 It says that Trump has no principles.

00:16:41.000 Even the ones where he was most rooted to principle were not really his principles.

00:16:45.000 He shifted his immigration positions a thousand times during this campaign and before it.

00:16:50.000 Okay, so anyone who's surprised by this was blinding themselves.

00:16:52.000 Again, this is not a case against voting for Trump.

00:16:55.000 Okay, that election is over.

00:16:56.000 And I'm very, very glad that Hillary Clinton is not president, which we'll discuss in just a second, as we discussed yesterday.

00:17:01.000 But, that is not the same thing as saying that Trump is some sort of promise keeper that you can trust to negotiate on behalf of the people who voted for him.

00:17:08.000 Because that's just not true.

00:17:10.000 And then people in the White House are chortling about this stuff.

00:17:12.000 Okay, Sarah Huckabee Sanders yesterday at the White House, she says, you know, Trump's done more for bipartisanship than Obama ever did.

00:17:18.000 The president's negotiated on behalf of the American people exactly what he was elected to do.

00:17:23.000 And the idea that you guys keep trying to distort this into a bad thing is, I think, exactly why this president was elected.

00:17:31.000 They were sick and tired of business as usual.

00:17:33.000 They wanted somebody who would break up the status quo that would bring people from both sides of the table together to have conversations.

00:17:40.000 This president's done more for bipartisanship in the last eight days than Obama did in eight years.

00:17:45.000 Yes, that's not why he ran.

00:17:46.000 We didn't run him so he could be bipartisan.

00:17:47.000 We ran him because we thought that Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell were a bunch of weaklings who kept surrendering to the Democrats.

00:17:53.000 Okay, you don't get to use the logic. 0.98

00:17:54.000 Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, those cuckity-cuck-cuck-cucks constantly surrendering to the Obama agenda. 0.96

00:18:00.000 Then Trump gets in there and implements the Obama agenda and you go, if those cucks block that man, if they block that Obama agenda, 0.95

00:18:08.000 Okay, that wasn't even the only bad story last night from the White House.

00:18:12.000 This one is from The Hill.

00:18:28.000 He was clearly open to it, intrigued, said Representative Josh Gottheimer, Democrat of New Jersey, a co-chair of the group.

00:18:34.000 Gottheimer said there was some discussion of the possibility that Democrats could call the bill a fix, and Republicans could call it something else.

00:18:40.000 I'll call it a fix.

00:18:41.000 Others will call it what they want.

00:18:42.000 But it matters less about what you call it than what it is.

00:18:44.000 He was very intrigued by that.

00:18:47.000 So now Trump is saying that he'll work with Democrats to fix Obamacare and then he'll call it repeal.

00:18:51.000 And we'll be told that if we don't support his fixes to Obamacare, then we are cucks again.

00:18:55.000 I mean, this whole thing is so annoying.

00:18:56.000 Trump on taxes yesterday.

00:18:58.000 So he says he has a tax plan.

00:18:59.000 But what is his talking point on the tax plan?

00:19:01.000 That he's not going to give a tax cut to the rich.

00:19:03.000 Okay, let's be fair.

00:19:03.000 Let's be clear about something.

00:19:04.000 The rich pay the vast majority of income tax in the United States by a long shot.

00:19:10.000 By a huge percentage.

00:19:11.000 But here's Trump mimicking the Democratic talking point.

00:19:15.000 We're looking at a 15% rate.

00:19:18.000 And we want a 15% rate because that would bring us low, not by any means the lowest, but it would bring us to a level where China and other countries are. 0.99

00:19:28.000 And we will be able to compete with anybody.

00:19:30.000 Nobody will be able to touch us.

00:19:33.000 So we would like to see 15%.

00:19:35.000 Okay?

00:19:36.000 Thank you very much, everybody.

00:19:39.000 And by the way, lower and lower for individuals.

00:19:43.000 Much lower than that for individuals.

00:19:45.000 And the rich will not be gaining at all with this plan.

00:19:50.000 We're looking for the middle class, and we're looking for jobs.

00:19:53.000 Okay, the rich, if you want to cut taxes, you have to cut them on the rich.

00:19:58.000 According to the Tax Foundation, an analysis,

00:20:01.000 The IRS data shows the top 1% of taxpayers paid 40.4% of total income taxes collected by the federal government, the highest percentage in modern history.

00:20:10.000 The bottom 95% paid 39.4% of the income tax burden.

00:20:14.000 You got that?

00:20:14.000 The top 1% paid more in income tax than the bottom 95%.

00:20:17.000 So who the hell are you going to cut taxes on exactly?

00:20:21.000 All of this is just Democratic talking points dressed up as populism, dressed up as populism.

00:20:25.000 It is not populism, okay?

00:20:27.000 Populism is just a strategy.

00:20:30.000 Populism is not an actual ideology.

00:20:33.000 This whole thing is highly annoying.

00:20:35.000 It's mostly annoying because, again, we were told over and over and over that Trump was going to be a solid conservative when he was in office, or at least if he was going to be a populist, he was going to mirror a lot of conservative talking points.

00:20:44.000 Instead, it seems like his negotiation strategy, at least in the last couple of weeks, has been surrender whatever you want to the Democrats.

00:20:50.000 If that's going to be the next three and a half years, boy, it's a problem.

00:20:53.000 And I'm not the only one saying this, okay?

00:20:54.000 You know, for people who say, well, you never liked Trump very much to begin with.

00:20:58.000 Sean Hannity did.

00:21:00.000 Laura Ingraham did.

00:21:01.000 Ann Coulter did.

00:21:02.000 Breitbart did.

00:21:03.000 They are all saying the same thing that I am today.

00:21:05.000 They are all saying the same thing that I am.

00:21:06.000 Because the bottom line is, I expect a Republican to act like a conservative.

00:21:11.000 And so do these people, at least on this issue.

00:21:14.000 So, it's really irritating.

00:21:15.000 Now, that said, I think this does explain a little bit.

00:21:19.000 You know, Trump being who Trump is.

00:21:20.000 I think this does explain a little bit why it is that Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election. 1.00

00:21:25.000 So she continues her tour of stupidity. 1.00

00:21:28.000 She is, she's going around whining. 1.00

00:21:30.000 This is her new life story.

00:21:31.000 I mean, I shouldn't say new.

00:21:33.000 She's been doing this her entire career.

00:21:34.000 But now she's whining for actual pay. 1.00

00:21:37.000 She's going around talking about how she was jobbed.

00:21:39.000 It was just, she would have won this thing if it hadn't been for the cruelty of fate.

00:21:43.000 Oh no!

00:21:44.000 So here's Hillary Clinton saying she would have been seen as a genius if she'd won the election.

00:21:50.000 Well, I thought it was pretty revolutionary that I was the first woman to have a realistic chance of becoming president.

00:21:56.000 So I don't know how any woman who is not familiar to people, since we have so many hurdles to overcome, could have even been in that position that I found myself.

00:22:08.000 So if I'd won, you know, I would have been seen as a genius.

00:22:12.000 My campaign would have been seen as perfect.

00:22:14.000 I understand all of that.

00:22:16.000 No, if you had won, then you would have not been considered a genius.

00:22:19.000 You would have been seen as someone who beat the weakest Republican candidate in the history of political parties.

00:22:23.000 I mean, Donald Trump was running with a 35% approval rating and he beat you?

00:22:27.000 No one would have seen you as a genius.

00:22:30.000 You were supposed to win this race.

00:22:31.000 The reason Hillary Clinton didn't win this race is because she's incredibly off-putting and because she has no capacity toward introspection at all. 1.00

00:22:38.000 There's never a point where she looks inside herself and goes, say, I wonder why people don't like me.

00:22:43.000 I wonder.

00:22:44.000 Instead, it's always the world that's the problem.

00:22:46.000 She was asked yesterday by Matt Lauer, did you make enough mistakes to lose?

00:22:49.000 And she says, no, of course I didn't make enough mistakes to lose.

00:22:51.000 It was you. 1.00

00:22:52.000 You evil Americans. 1.00

00:22:54.000 You sexist racists. 1.00

00:22:57.000 Here's Hillary Clinton looking very much like Veruca, like, like the, the, what's the, what's, not Veruca. 0.97

00:23:03.000 Who's the big blueberry in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?

00:23:07.000 In any case, here's Hillary Clinton, who slightly resembles a sky blue blueberry, on the show with Matt Lauer. 0.96

00:23:15.000 There is a lot of criticism in this book, an effort of full disclosure.

00:23:20.000 You criticize me pretty soundly in a few pages of this book.

00:23:24.000 When it comes to the self-inflicted wounds, when you look at the list of them, and you go through them in the book, did you make enough mistakes yourself to lose the election without any of the other things you talk about?

00:23:35.000 Well, I will say no, Matt.

00:23:37.000 I don't think that will surprise you.

00:23:38.000 But, you know, also, this book has a lot of behind-the-scenes look at what it's like to run for president, particularly, again, as a woman.

00:23:46.000 Okay, so I love that.

00:23:47.000 It's all about that she didn't make any mistakes, right?

00:23:50.000 Everything was absolutely perfect.

00:23:51.000 Everything was just great.

00:23:52.000 It's really the fault of the Americans. 0.99

00:23:54.000 And she just continues doing this.

00:23:56.000 This is her tour now.

00:23:57.000 This is her tour, okay?

00:23:58.000 And I'm going to explain why that matters in just one second, why Democrats should look out.

00:24:02.000 Because if they think that they can just campaign against Trump, they've got another thing coming.

00:24:05.000 They've got another thing coming.

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00:26:26.000 The reason that Hillary's awfulness actually matters is because I think that this should be a warning to Republicans and Democrats, Hillary Clinton.

00:26:33.000 She should be a warning to all people, right? 0.86

00:26:36.000 She's like Dante's seventh circle of hell. 0.80

00:26:37.000 Abandon all hope, all ye who enter here. 1.00

00:26:40.000 But when it comes to Hillary Clinton, what Democrats should realize is that they can run a candidate just as charmless as Hillary Clinton and lose to Donald Trump.

00:26:47.000 And Republicans should recognize that Donald Trump is not on a pathway to victory just because he beat the least popular Democratic candidate in the history of American politics.

00:26:55.000 Okay, the Democratic candidate matters, in other words.

00:26:57.000 It's not just about Trump, it's also about who the Democrats run.

00:27:00.000 So, and right now, what's fascinating is that the Democrats obviously think that they've got a no-lose situation with Trump.

00:27:06.000 They think...

00:27:07.000 Right now, because he's cutting deals.

00:27:09.000 He will continue to be unpopular.

00:27:10.000 He won't gain radically in popularity.

00:27:12.000 They can always shellac him later.

00:27:13.000 He'll always be Trump.

00:27:14.000 He'll always make a mistake.

00:27:16.000 And so they may as well get what they can get, right?

00:27:17.000 They may as well get a bunch of lefty policy, split the Republican Party, create a civil war.

00:27:21.000 This is why Trump needs to understand that without his base, he's got nothing.

00:27:25.000 Okay, without his base, he doesn't have the middle, he doesn't have the left.

00:27:27.000 And no matter how much he reaches over to the other side, no matter how many New York Times editorials talk about the new independent Trump, people are not moving toward him because he's already decided in the public mind.

00:27:37.000 Hillary had the same problem in this election cycle. 1.00

00:27:39.000 She kept trying to redefine herself.

00:27:40.000 There is no way to redefine Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:27:42.000 There is no way to redefine Donald Trump.

00:27:44.000 Okay.

00:27:44.000 So, I want to discuss also the situation with Jamil Hill.

00:27:49.000 She's the woman on SportsCenter6 SE6 who ripped into President Trump. 1.00

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00:29:21.000 So yesterday, in a story that has basically now been eaten, completely eaten by the next news cycle, Berkeley and Trump and the Trump wall and all this, Jemele Hill was this commentator who we talked about yesterday.

00:29:33.000 She is a black woman who's on SC6. 0.87

00:29:39.000 SC6 is not a show I like. 0.68

00:29:40.000 I do not enjoy the show.

00:29:40.000 I think it's a bad show.

00:29:41.000 Michael Smith and Jemele Hill. 0.88

00:29:43.000 But she goes on Twitter and she says that Trump is a white supremacist, surrounds himself with white supremacists, et cetera. 0.76

00:29:48.000 It's basically just warmed over Ta-Nehisi Coates.

00:29:51.000 Well, the White House has asked about this yesterday, and Sarah Huckabee Sanders says from the podium of the White House that she should probably be fired.

00:29:58.000 I think that's one of the more outrageous comments that anyone could make, and certainly something that I think is a fireable offense by ESPN.

00:30:08.000 Okay, this is stuff no White House should say.

00:30:10.000 Imagine for a second that I said something on CNN.

00:30:15.000 Let's imagine I was a CNN contributor.

00:30:16.000 Ha ha ha.

00:30:17.000 And let's imagine that I was on CNN and I said something nasty about President Obama.

00:30:21.000 And the Obama White House then said they should fire him as a contributor.

00:30:24.000 Okay, that would be wildly inappropriate.

00:30:26.000 Government officials should not be calling for firings of private individuals based on expression of opposition to the government, to members of the government.

00:30:33.000 It's just, it does not come off well.

00:30:35.000 It is not pro-First Amendment.

00:30:36.000 I don't understand how you can say that you want Jamel Hill fired, but then say that it's bad if Brendan Eich over at Mozilla Firefox is fired because he supports Proposition 8 upholding traditional marriage.

00:30:46.000 It's one or the other, okay?

00:30:47.000 You gotta say that people either should not be fired for expressing their political views, or they should be fired based on you don't like their political views.

00:30:56.000 There's a lot of talk about snowflakery, and there should be, right?

00:30:58.000 I'm gonna go visit a bunch of snowflakes up in Berkeley today.

00:31:01.000 But snowflakery exists on both sides.

00:31:02.000 If you're that offended by Jemele Hill, I recommend that you get a life.

00:31:06.000 Jemele Hill said some stuff.

00:31:07.000 I don't agree with the stuff that she says.

00:31:09.000 Lots of people say stuff that I don't agree with.

00:31:11.000 She not only has a right to say it, she's basically given free reign by ESPN. 0.99

00:31:14.000 The people here who I think are the biggest hypocrites are ESPN. 0.96

00:31:16.000 I think ESPN is absurd. 0.96

00:31:17.000 ESPN is willing to get rid of Mike Ditka, get rid of Curt Schilling for no apparent reason except that they are conservative.

00:31:24.000 But Jemele Hill, they issue a statement about how they don't like her politics, and then they don't suspend her. 1.00

00:31:27.000 The double standard is telling, but the solution to that is not Jemele Hill being fired, it's ESPN hiring people like Mike Ditka and Kurt Schilling, and Rush Limbaugh by the way, instead of doing this routine where they fire everyone conservative and keep everybody on the left.

00:31:40.000 Okay, time for some things I like, and then some things I hate, and then the big idea.

00:31:43.000 So...

00:31:44.000 I don't know.

00:32:04.000 Uh, it's... it's really clever.

00:32:06.000 There are certain things in it that you don't understand when you're a kid watching it.

00:32:09.000 Like, ladies' owners are named Jim Dear and Darling, and the reason that they are called Jim Dear and Darling is not because that's their actual names, it's because that's what they call each other, and the dog doesn't understand their actual names.

00:32:20.000 So, it's all very charming, and this is a lot of the stuff about the Disney films that's really great, is they work on two levels.

00:32:25.000 They work when you're a kid, because they're really enjoyable and fun, and then when you're an adult, they also work because there are a bunch of jokes that if you're a kid, you're just not going to get.

00:32:31.000 It's a really, really charming, lovely film.

00:32:34.000 And again, all the old films are about heroism and self-sacrifice, and sacrificing yourself for your family.

00:32:40.000 That's really what all of the old Disney films are about.

00:32:42.000 Lady and the Tramp's about that, too. 0.98

00:32:43.000 Here's some of the preview.

00:33:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is a preview of the motion picture event soon to be seen in this theater.

00:33:06.000 We would like to show you and tell you something about Walt Disney's Lady and the Tramp.

00:33:12.000 It's his happiest motion picture, a story about dogs.

00:33:17.000 Open your heart and build some glowing memories, as Walt Disney takes you into that wonderful world you always hoped did exist, and never knew for sure until now.

00:33:27.000 The world of dogs.

00:33:29.000 To anyone who's ever owned a dog, loved a dog, or just wanted a dog, this picture is yours, heart and soul.

00:33:39.000 The music's really great.

00:33:40.000 Now, one of the things that's happened with a lot of the old Disney movies is that there are a bunch of people who complain about the racial stereotyping in the old Disney movies.

00:33:47.000 So, like, there's, in this movie, there's a scene where Lady and the Tramp, they're having spaghetti together, you see it in the preview, and there's a guy who owns an Italian restaurant who comes down, and he's basically just an Italian stereotype. 0.99

00:33:57.000 Okay, if you really think that that created massive anti-Italian sentiment, it's because you're stupid. 0.98

00:34:01.000 Okay, in the 1950s, yes, there was racism. 1.00

00:34:04.000 Yes, there were people who hated each other based on ethnic identity.

00:34:07.000 That's true. 1.00

00:34:07.000 But if you really think that Lady and the Tramp was the source of that, it's because you're dumb. 1.00

00:34:11.000 It's the same sort of people who think that the name Washington Redskins leads people to hate Indians, hate Native Americans. 1.00

00:34:16.000 Really, really stupid. 1.00

00:34:17.000 So, okay. 1.00

00:34:18.000 Other things that I like.

00:34:19.000 So, this is a pretty spectacular story.

00:34:21.000 Harrison Ford punched Ryan Gosling.

00:34:23.000 And that in and of itself is just amazing.

00:34:25.000 You just have to love that.

00:34:26.000 And then he explained why he punched Ryan Gosling.

00:34:28.000 He said,

00:34:39.000 I asked him the other day where he got his sense of humor from.

00:34:41.000 Was it his mother or his father?

00:34:42.000 He said, Sears.

00:34:43.000 And he didn't have much time to shop around so he just had to grab one and get out.

00:34:46.000 You know, he's tough.

00:34:47.000 He's been an inspiration to everyone.

00:34:48.000 Everyone is doing push-ups and taking an interest in their fitness.

00:34:51.000 And Gosling said, look at it this way, you just got hit by Indiana Jones.

00:34:55.000 And then Ford was asked about it and he said, I punched Ryan Gosling in the face.

00:34:58.000 And then he said, Ryan Gosling's face was where it should not have been.

00:35:01.000 His job was to be out of range of the punch.

00:35:03.000 My job was also to make sure I pulled the punch, but we were moving and the camera was moving, so I had to be aware of the angles of the camera to make the punch look good.

00:35:09.000 You know, I threw about 100 punches in the shooting of it, and I only hit him once.

00:35:13.000 And he was asked, so should he be grateful?

00:35:15.000 And Ford said, I've pointed that out.

00:35:17.000 And he said, the one that did connect, that's 100% his fault.

00:35:19.000 I said, no, I mean, I suppose it's 90% his fault.

00:35:22.000 And the person said, that's very, and then Ford finishes, generous of me.

00:35:26.000 And then the guy said, he said you went to his dressing room with a bottle of scotch.

00:35:29.000 And Ford said, I did.

00:35:30.000 And he says, and poured him a glass and then walked out with the bottle.

00:35:33.000 And Ford said, yeah.

00:35:34.000 What did he effing expect?

00:35:35.000 The whole bottle?

00:35:36.000 I figured one drink would fix it.

00:35:37.000 That was enough.

00:35:39.000 Awesome.

00:35:40.000 I love it.

00:35:41.000 And then he calls him a mousketeer.

00:35:43.000 Pretty amazing.

00:35:43.000 He's fun to work with.

00:35:44.000 I like him a lot.

00:35:45.000 He's a smart guy.

00:35:46.000 I mean, he's an effing mousketeer. 0.97

00:35:47.000 He's been doing this since he was six years old or something.

00:35:49.000 He knows what he's doing.

00:35:50.000 Harrison Ford, man.

00:35:52.000 Ah, all the Harrison Ford.

00:35:54.000 Just awesome.

00:35:55.000 I think they should remake Blade Runner, but they should not have Ryan Gosling in it at all.

00:35:58.000 It should just be old Harrison Ford being Harrison Ford.

00:36:01.000 Like, just having a camera follow that guy around would be incredible.

00:36:04.000 Apparently, he's supposed to be really great to the staff on set also.

00:36:06.000 He's one of the nicest guys in Hollywood, from what people say.

00:36:09.000 Okay, time for a thing that I hate, and then we'll get to the big idea.

00:36:16.000 So Steve Mnuchin apparently really, really likes living on the public dime.

00:36:19.000 ABC News reported last night Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin requested a government jet to take him and his newlywed wife on their honeymoon early this summer.

00:36:28.000 He is worth $300 million or something like that, Steve Mnuchin.

00:36:32.000 Mnuchin allegedly asked for an Air Force jet, which according to an Air Force spokesman costs $25,000 per hour to operate, to take him and his bride, Louise Linton, to their multi-destination honeymoon, which included Scotland, France, and Italy.

00:36:44.000 That's insane.

00:36:46.000 He's worth $300 million and he wanted taxpayers to pay for his flight.

00:36:50.000 Okay, serious MAGA action right there from Steve Mnuchin.

00:36:54.000 You don't get to complain about Barack Obama wasting lots of money on vacations and then say it's okay when Trump does the same or when Steve Mnuchin does the same.

00:37:01.000 All these people who want to live off the largesse of the government, it's really gross. 0.67

00:37:04.000 It's really gross.

00:37:06.000 And this is why the founders actually, many of them favored the idea of having wealthy men in government because it was supposed to be public service, not the public serving you.

00:37:14.000 But apparently no longer, I mean that's so gauche.

00:37:15.000 You're worth 300 million bucks and you can't just get, you can't just charter a plane? 0.96

00:37:19.000 Ridiculous. 0.90

00:37:20.000 Okay, time for the big idea.

00:37:21.000 So on Thursdays, we talk about just a big idea that gives you background that you need to know.

00:37:25.000 So today, excuse me, we're gonna do the history of immigration.

00:37:30.000 Okay, because I think people get this wrong.

00:37:34.000 So Steve Bannon said in his interview on 60 Minutes that America was built on its citizens.

00:37:38.000 It wasn't built on immigration. 1.00

00:37:40.000 This is a rather stupid dichotomy. 1.00

00:37:44.000 A lot of the immigrants, a lot of the citizens who came here were immigrants. 1.00

00:37:47.000 In fact, virtually all of them were immigrants.

00:37:50.000 A huge percentage of people who entered the United States during the 19th century were immigrants because the idea was that people were needed to fill the continent.

00:37:57.000 That was the idea.

00:37:58.000 There was this manifest destiny idea that America was destined to take over the continent and we needed more people to do it. 0.85

00:38:03.000 Immigration in the United States was basically wide open until the late 19th century and it was only curtailed with the growth of the power of the federal government.

00:38:11.000 The first serious federal regulation of immigration began in 1875, a hundred years after the founding of the country, with laws directed toward preventing the entry of prostitutes and convicts.

00:38:20.000 There was concern about cultural assimilation and real worries about undercutting the price of labor, right?

00:38:25.000 Just the same as a lot of the worries today.

00:38:26.000 That's what started the 1882 Chinese immigration laws that stopped

00:38:30.000 The Chinese from immigrating.

00:38:32.000 Some of that was xenophobia.

00:38:33.000 A lot of it was concerns about the price of labor going down because of an influx of labor.

00:38:40.000 In 1885, Congress banned the importation of all contract labor so you couldn't just import people and hire them to a contract.

00:38:46.000 So where did the immigrants come from?

00:38:47.000 This is one of the big questions because the changing demographics of the country are largely due to immigration.

00:38:52.000 From 1820 to 1930, 4.5 million Irish people came to the United States.

00:38:56.000 During the 19th century, 5 million Germans came into the United States as well.

00:39:01.000 Between 1880 and 1920, 2 million Jews entered the United States.

00:39:04.000 Overall, during that period, 1880 to 1920, 20 million new people entered the country.

00:39:10.000 In 1924, largely as a backlash to Jewish immigration, Congress passed a law restricting entry to 2% of the 1890 population for a particular group.

00:39:19.000 So, if there were 100,000 Jews who entered in 1890, then only 2,000 Jews could enter now.

00:39:23.000 That was the idea behind this immigration bill, and it was supposed to sort of freeze in place the levels of immigration that were entering the country from particular other countries.

00:39:32.000 It was meant to crack down on the Eastern European Jewish influx, as well as the influxes from Asia.

00:39:36.000 It actually banned outright immigration of Asians and Arabs.

00:39:41.000 One of the things that's kind of unpleasant to mention about the Immigration Act of 1924, but it's true, is that one of the reasons for the ban on immigration was eugenics. 1.00

00:39:48.000 There were a lot of people who thought that this was somehow degrading the cultural stock, not just the cultural, the genetic stock of the United States, and so you couldn't have all these stupid foreigners coming in here and making people dumb. 0.99

00:39:57.000 It was almost an alt-right approach to immigration. 0.98

00:40:00.000 The biggest change to immigration actually did not come, though, until 1965.

00:40:03.000 In 1965, we had the Immigration and Nationality Act.

00:40:07.000 This was pushed by Ted Kennedy.

00:40:08.000 This is what Ann Coulter talks about a lot.

00:40:10.000 It banned quotas based on nationality and allowed Americans to sponsor their relatives.

00:40:15.000 So by banning the quotas based on nationality, you got a huge influx of people coming in from Latin America and from third world countries.

00:40:23.000 As of 1970, there were only 9 million Hispanics in the United States.

00:40:26.000 Today, there are 60 million.

00:40:28.000 The Migration Policy Institute says this.

00:40:45.000 Immediate relatives were exempt from the caps.

00:40:48.000 This was the thing, right?

00:40:49.000 So if you had a lot of immigrants from Latin America and Central America, and there were lots of them during the 1930s, 40s, and 50s, they were now allowed to do family reunification and bring in their entire families and they were not subject to the caps.

00:41:01.000 24% of all family visas were assigned to siblings of U.S.

00:41:03.000 citizens.

00:41:04.000 In 1976, the $20,000 per country limit was applied to the Western Hemisphere.

00:41:09.000 And then in 1978, there was a worldwide quota.

00:41:11.000 Also, in that same year, around that same time, in 1964, the government killed the Bracero program, which was a work permit program.

00:41:18.000 Instead, what you had was, as a reaction, a lot of people sponsoring the influx of their relatives into the country.

00:41:25.000 So you do see a major demographic shift.

00:41:27.000 If you look at U.S.

00:41:28.000 immigrant population by world region of birth from 1960 to 2013, what you see is that the Americas move from being approximately 15 to 20 percent

00:41:42.000 of the immigrants in 1960 to being well over 50% of all of the immigrants in the United States by 2013.

00:41:48.000 It's a major shift.

00:41:50.000 It's a major shift.

00:41:51.000 Originally in 1960, more than 75% of all immigrants in the United States in 1960 were from Europe.

00:41:57.000 Today that number is about 12%.

00:41:59.000 So you see a massive shift in demographics.

00:42:02.000 That does not mean that people who want to restrict immigration are doing so based on racism.

00:42:06.000 There are good cultural reasons.

00:42:08.000 You know, if you, let's say you have a baseline cultural test, and it says, do you believe X, Y, and Z, and people fail that test, they don't get in.

00:42:14.000 That's a different thing than saying we just don't want brown people here, which is what the left says that immigration restrictionists want to say.

00:42:19.000 To me, the only two reasons to have any sort of restrictions on immigration are cost to the government,

00:42:25.000 If you're living off of welfare, if you're taking public benefits, or you refuse to culturally assimilate to the United States.

00:42:30.000 Those are the only two real reasons.

00:42:31.000 I don't believe the nonsense about undercutting the price of labor.

00:42:35.000 That's the same argument you can make about a minimum wage.

00:42:37.000 You can say that we just want to restrict the labor supply.

00:42:39.000 I'm not for restricting labor supplies.

00:42:41.000 It undercuts the economic growth of a country.

00:42:42.000 Okay, so there you go.

00:42:43.000 There's a little bit of background about the history of immigration.

00:42:46.000 It is not true that we've never had immigration restriction.

00:42:49.000 That's not true.

00:42:50.000 And it's also not true that all of the people who made the country great were quote-unquote citizens who were born here and came over on the Mayflower.

00:42:56.000 Okay, that's just not true either.

00:42:57.000 All right, so we'll be back here tomorrow to recap how it goes over at Berkeley.

00:43:02.000 Tonight, if you want to watch my speech at Berkeley, go over to dailywire.com.

00:43:05.000 We are going to be embedding a live stream, so you can check it out over there.

00:43:09.000 Full-on coverage, and it should be lots of fun, and hopefully nobody gets hurt.

00:43:13.000 I mean, really, people who are coming, I hope and pray you come for an actual honest discussion, but given the preparations the PD are making, that seems probably a little bit of wishful thinking on my part.

00:43:23.000 All right, well, we'll see you here tomorrow.

00:43:25.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:43:26.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - September 14, 2017

Did Trump Just Give Away The Border? | The Ben Shapiro Show Ep. 383

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