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Does Biden Actually Have A Covid Strategy? | Ep. 1181


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Ben Shapiro talks about the spread of the deadly strain of the flu virus C.O.V.E. (Co-ovir encephaloviridovirus) and how the United States is doing much better than other countries when it comes to dealing with the flu pandemic. He also talks about how the government is handling the problem, and why it's not so bad compared to other countries in terms of the number of confirmed cases and deaths. Ben Shapiro is the host of the podcast "The Ben Shapiro Show" and is a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, CBS, NPR and other media outlets. He is also a frequent contributor to The Daily Wire and the Wall Street Journal and has a regular column in The New York Post. If you haven't gotten a VPN yet, you really should get one, because if you haven t gotten one, you are missing out on a lot of great VPN options, and you should be using Express VPN to keep your data secure and private. Get 3 extra months for free on a 1-year package from Express VPN, and get access to all of the features mentioned in the show, plus a bunch of other awesome features and perks, including an ad-free version of the show called "The Best VPNs in the World" available for you to listen to wherever you get your favorite streaming service, wherever and whenever you go. Visit expressvpn.me/TheBenShapiro on the App Store or Google Play. The show is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices and get 20% off your first month with the promo code: Ben Shapiro's new book "Ben Shapiro's Secret Life." Subscribe for a chance to win a FREE 7-free 7-day VIP membership offer from Amazon Prime membership and unlimited access to his newest book, "The Real Life Version of "The Biggest Secret Life of Meghan and the Real Life Story" and more! Learn more on all of that and more. Watch the video version of The Real Life Meals on the podcast on The Ben Shapiro Podcasts Podcasts on the Biggest Deal of the Week on Amazon Prime Video, wherever else you get the best deal on the world can get it? Subscribe and review the show goes live on Prime Video on the most authentic and the most personalized experience on the best of the best places in the best podcast on the web?


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00:01:34.000 Right now, COVID continues to spread across the country.
00:01:43.000 If you look at the latest statistics, actually, COVID seems to be a little bit on the wane.
00:01:47.000 That is true both in terms of infections and in terms of deaths.
00:01:50.000 The high number of detected infections in the United States came around the first week of January.
00:01:55.000 According to Worldometers, January 8th we had about 308,000 diagnosed cases of COVID in the United States.
00:02:02.000 Today, we are down to about half that, about 152,000 diagnosed cases of COVID in the United States.
00:02:07.000 The same thing seems to be true of deaths.
00:02:09.000 The high in deaths was, again, right around that middle of January.
00:02:13.000 January 12th, January 11th.
00:02:15.000 January 8th, you're talking about 4,000 deaths a day.
00:02:18.000 Now, we are dropping slightly, not hugely, but slightly down to about 3,500, 3,400 deaths a day.
00:02:25.000 The real worry right now when it comes to COVID is the possibility of new variants.
00:02:29.000 There are a bunch of variants that apparently are already present in the United States.
00:02:32.000 We are trying to shut down travel from South Africa, for example, that's something Joe Biden has done, President Biden.
00:02:38.000 He's also attempting to shut down travel from places like Brazil.
00:02:40.000 The reality is these variants are probably already in the United States because the United States is so open to travel.
00:02:45.000 We are not New Zealand.
00:02:46.000 We didn't shut off our travel because we are, in fact, the largest economy on the face of the earth with lots and lots of international travel.
00:02:52.000 We are not a tiny island in the middle of nowhere with about seven citizens and some sheep.
00:02:56.000 So anybody who tries to compare how New Zealand handled the pandemic with how the United States handled the pandemic is really fooling themselves.
00:03:03.000 And again, just as a general rule, when we talk about which countries have handled the pandemic worst versus which countries have handled the pandemic the best, when people say the United States has handled the pandemic worse than any other country, that is just not true.
00:03:16.000 In terms of deaths per million population, the United States is not, in fact, at the top of the list.
00:03:22.000 The United States currently ranks about 11th on that list behind countries like Belgium, and Slovenia, and Czechia, and the UK, and Italy.
00:03:31.000 The United States ranks just above places like Bulgaria, Hungary, Spain, and Peru, right?
00:03:35.000 So we will see how things progress because Mexico is also getting hit really hard.
00:03:39.000 They are rising on the list pretty quickly.
00:03:41.000 Okay, all of which is to say, that nobody has a wonderful handle on COVID and nobody is going to have a wonderful handle on COVID until the vaccinations become prevalent enough that they are able to overtake the virus.
00:03:50.000 And that is the problem with these variants. So what we are finding is that the vaccines apparently are still effective on the various COVID variants, but those variants are also significantly more transmissible, even more transmissible than the original virus itself.
00:04:03.000 And that, of course, was the real danger of the virus.
00:04:05.000 The virus was more deadly than the flu.
00:04:07.000 We're still figuring out whether it was three times more deadly than the flu or five times more deadly than the flu, and it really did vary widely by age.
00:04:13.000 But when it comes to the transmissibility, that was the major difference between COVID and the flu, right?
00:04:18.000 Even greater than the problem of the deadliness of the disease was the fact that it was spreading so fast amongst a huge percentage of the population.
00:04:28.000 Well, scientists are now worried that these variants are even more transmissible.
00:04:32.000 Caitlin Rivers, epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Health said, We're definitely on a downward slope.
00:04:37.000 I'm worried the new variants will throw us a curveball in late February or March, which is why it is very, very important that we ramp up the vaccine distribution as soon as humanly possible, like as in right now.
00:04:46.000 Nationwide, according to the New York Times a couple days ago, new coronavirus cases have fallen 21% in the last two weeks, according to a New York Times database.
00:04:52.000 Some experts have suggested this could mark the start of a shifting course after nearly four months of ever-worsening case totals.
00:04:58.000 This week, the University of Washington Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, which puts out a predictive model that is widely used for planning, including by some government agencies, released a projection saying new cases in the United States would decline steadily from now on.
00:05:09.000 And so we have seen the worst of this thing, according to them.
00:05:12.000 But with new viral variants, Surging in places like Britain, Ireland, South Africa and Northern Brazil.
00:05:18.000 Some people are suggesting that maybe we're seeing a lull before there is another wave of the virus, which again, tranche out those vaccines as fast as humanly possible would be the goal here.
00:05:28.000 Now, there is a conflicting message that has been coming out from the Biden administration.
00:05:32.000 That conflicting message is that the United States has handled this horribly and we need to centralize all power in the federal government.
00:05:37.000 And two is we really don't know what the hell we're doing, right?
00:05:40.000 This is the difficulty with actually running the government as opposed to sitting outside the government and complaining about the government.
00:05:46.000 If you are Joe Biden and you spent the last year and a half I'm really here talking about how terrible the Trump administration is doing handling this virus.
00:05:55.000 If you spent the last several months talking about how Trump is solely responsible for the vast spread across the land, he did say that during the campaign, right?
00:06:01.000 Every death is on Donald Trump in all of this.
00:06:03.000 Well, when you enter office, you better have a plan.
00:06:05.000 There's only one problem.
00:06:06.000 Your plan is not very good.
00:06:08.000 It also happens to be the case that the media's reliance on Dr. Anthony Fauci as the font of all wisdom is wrongheaded.
00:06:13.000 It was wrongheaded from the start.
00:06:14.000 Fauci has made a bunch of mistakes along the way.
00:06:16.000 Again, I don't think that Fauci is a badly motivated human being or anything.
00:06:20.000 I do think that Anthony Fauci has gotten high on his own fumes a little bit, and this is a person who definitely believes his own press in a major way.
00:06:27.000 By the way, the...
00:06:28.000 The guy is pretty well rewarded.
00:06:30.000 He is the highest paid employee in the entire United States federal government, apparently, according to Adam Andrzejewski over at Forbes.com.
00:06:36.000 Apparently, he made $417,000 in 2019.
00:06:38.000 That is the latest year for which federal salaries are available.
00:06:42.000 That made him the highest paid out of all four million federal employees in the United States, which is pretty astonishing, actually.
00:06:50.000 By the way, he has complained before about people saying that he is a rich guy and he makes too much money.
00:06:57.000 He's like, no, no, no, I'm a public employee.
00:06:58.000 Yeah, a public employee who's making an excess of what the president of the United States makes.
00:07:01.000 I mean, there is that as well.
00:07:03.000 In any case, Anthony Fauci was speaking to Davos, right?
00:07:06.000 Davos is this international gathering of the Hoi Polloi.
00:07:09.000 And here was Anthony Fauci explaining that America's big problem is that its response was politicized and that was destructive to a unified approach.
00:07:16.000 Now, here's the problem with that.
00:07:18.000 Again, Pretends that all of the United States has handled coronavirus similarly is just a lie.
00:07:23.000 And when you say that the U.S.
00:07:24.000 would have been better off with this giant, top-down, unified approach, I'm wondering what your evidence of that is.
00:07:29.000 What would it look like, a top-down, unified approach?
00:07:30.000 Would it look like California, which is getting absolutely shellacked day after day today in terms of number of deaths?
00:07:37.000 Per day, California is far outpacing the rest of the United States.
00:07:40.000 It is not close.
00:07:42.000 Right now, California is experiencing in excess of 400 deaths a day, compared to second, by the way, is New York, right?
00:07:47.000 New York, you remember, got hit in the first wave.
00:07:48.000 Well, now New York is having a second wave.
00:07:50.000 They had 217 deaths yesterday, according to Worldometers.
00:07:53.000 Florida, which has the same population as New York, but a lot more old people, is down to 153.
00:07:57.000 Texas is right after that.
00:08:00.000 So here's the bottom line.
00:08:02.000 When you say that you want a centralized, unified approach, what you're ignoring is the fact that the sort of non-centralized approach of the United States has allowed for a bunch of states to handle this better than other states.
00:08:12.000 People did not handle this all the same.
00:08:15.000 And considering how poorly places like New York and California apparently have handled it...
00:08:19.000 That's not a bad thing.
00:08:19.000 Here is Fauci, though, talking about how we need more government centralization.
00:08:22.000 By the way, if you think the government has done, like, an unbelievable job here, let me just point out, the government, essentially, had a couple of jobs.
00:08:28.000 One was to prevent the spread.
00:08:29.000 They did not actually do that despite all of the lockdowns.
00:08:31.000 Two was that they were going to tranche out the vaccines.
00:08:34.000 Okay, they've been really slow on that.
00:08:37.000 For all the talk about Operation Warp Speed, it was the private industry, it was private industry that developed the vaccine, not the United States federal government.
00:08:44.000 In any case, here is Anthony Fauci talking about how we need more centralization of control.
00:08:48.000 When public health issues become politically charged, like wearing a mask or not becomes a political statement, you cannot imagine how destructive that is to any unified public health message.
00:09:05.000 You know what's really amazing about all the masking talk and it's all about Trump and people didn't take masking seriously enough?
00:09:11.000 The rates of mask usage in the United States are extraordinarily high and much higher than parts of Europe.
00:09:16.000 If you ask people to self-report whether they wear a mask most of the time or all of the time, in excess of 80% of Americans say they wear a mask most or all of the time when they are in crowded spaces.
00:09:25.000 The problem here is not mask compliance.
00:09:27.000 L.A.
00:09:28.000 had mask mandates in place for months.
00:09:30.000 I mean, literally starting about a month and a half after the beginning of the pandemic, when Fauci shifted on his original lines, I don't know, you should wear masks.
00:09:38.000 Everybody in L.A.
00:09:39.000 was wearing masks, and L.A.
00:09:40.000 is just getting absolutely decimated right now.
00:09:44.000 The big lie here, which is that if you had just listened to the public health experts, and now if you listen more to the public health experts, and you listen even more to the public health experts, we'll just keep doubling down on this, that would have fixed everything.
00:09:54.000 If we had listened to Anthony Fauci, nobody would have worn a mask at the beginning.
00:09:56.000 And if we had listened to Anthony Fauci, then we never would have opened the schools.
00:10:00.000 And if we had listened to Anthony Fauci, we would have thought herd immunity was kicking in at 70%.
00:10:05.000 I mean, I'm sorry, but the idea that everybody's wrong for not listening to me is such a... It's true on all sides of the aisle when it comes to politics, but it's ugly.
00:10:13.000 And the reality is, people aren't going to listen to you.
00:10:16.000 And you're just gonna have to deal with that.
00:10:18.000 Because in a free country, that is how things work.
00:10:21.000 The kind of bizarre longing for a top-down dictatorial mindset when it comes to this stuff is really weird.
00:10:28.000 It's, I think, what underlies so much of the media's hatred of Florida.
00:10:31.000 I'm looking at the statistics right now in terms of deaths per million in the United States.
00:10:36.000 Deaths per million by state.
00:10:37.000 Where do you think Florida ranks?
00:10:38.000 If you looked at just the media coverage, where would you think that Florida ranks in terms of deaths per million population in the United States?
00:10:44.000 You'd probably think that it ranks in the top two Maybe the top 10?
00:10:48.000 Maybe the top 20?
00:10:49.000 Maybe the top 25?
00:10:53.000 Florida ranks 26th in America in terms of deaths per million.
00:10:57.000 But if you actually look at how the media covers this, that's because DeSantis has taken a decentralized approach.
00:11:02.000 So it seems almost as though when it comes to how so many members of the public health establishment and Democrats tend to think of public health, they think of public health in the same way they think of government generally, which is government is always the solution.
00:11:13.000 Centralized government is always the solution.
00:11:14.000 And if it fails, it's because we need to centralize to centralize harder.
00:11:19.000 That is the only way that we are going to be able to overcome the pandemic.
00:11:23.000 Okay, we'll get to why this is such nonsense, errant nonsense, in just one second.
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00:12:23.000 Okay, so our public health officials, they just keep saying, why don't you listen to us?
00:12:34.000 Why don't you listen to us more?
00:12:35.000 Why don't you listen to us more?
00:12:36.000 Maybe because you've been wrong a thousand times.
00:12:37.000 Speaking of public health officials who have been wrong a thousand times, here's Anthony Fauci.
00:12:41.000 Walking back his original assessment, which is that 100 million people were going to be vaccinated in the first 100 days of the Biden administration.
00:12:48.000 Here he was on Sunday, walking that back and going, no, what I actually meant is that we will be tranching out 100 million vaccine shots.
00:12:54.000 Remember, it takes two to fully vaccinate somebody.
00:12:57.000 So there's a rather large, I mean, he was off by a factor of 50% on his original estimate here.
00:13:03.000 Here is the world's greatest doctor, Anthony Fauci.
00:13:06.000 Let me clarify that because there was a little bit of a misunderstanding.
00:13:10.000 What we're talking about is a hundred million shots in individuals.
00:13:15.000 So a shot, as in other words, when you get down to, let's say, a certain part of the hundred days, at the end of a hundred days, you're going to have some people who will have gotten both shots and some will still be on their first shots.
00:13:28.000 But the president is saying a hundred million shots in the arms of people within a hundred days.
00:13:35.000 It's weird because like a week ago, Joe Biden was saying it was going to be 100 million people vaccinated within 100 days.
00:13:40.000 Okay, so really, well done, everybody.
00:13:42.000 Everybody's done an amazing job here.
00:13:44.000 And meanwhile, it turns out that that centralized government policy has been the greatest driver of poverty in half a century.
00:13:50.000 According to Bloomberg, the end of 2020 brought the sharpest rise in U.S.
00:13:53.000 poverty rate since the 1960s.
00:13:55.000 Economist Bruce Meyer from the University of Chicago and James Sullivan from the University of Notre Dame found that the poverty rate increased by 2.4 percentage points during the latter half of 2020 as the U.S.
00:14:04.000 continued to suffer the economic impacts from COVID-19.
00:14:07.000 That percentage point rise has nearly doubled the largest annual increase in poverty since the 1960s.
00:14:11.000 This means an additional 8 million people nationwide are now considered poor.
00:14:15.000 Moreover, the poverty rate for black Americans is estimated to have jumped by 5.4 percentage points or by 2.4 million individuals.
00:14:22.000 The scholars' findings put the rate at 11.8% in December.
00:14:26.000 While poverty is down from readings of more than 15% a decade earlier, the new estimates suggest the annual Census Bureau tally due in September will be higher than the last official pre-pandemic level of 10.5% in 2019.
00:14:38.000 So the poverty rate has absolutely skyrocketed.
00:14:41.000 We have also seen a massive, massive amount of drug overdose increases, a massive increase in suicide, The number of young Americans who are going to die of causes other than COVID-19 during this period may, at the end of the day, actually outpace the number of young Americans, meaning Americans under the age of 40, who actually die from COVID.
00:14:59.000 The overdose figures are really, really brutal.
00:15:03.000 So there's that.
00:15:04.000 So our experts basically locked down the entire economy, created the sharpest rise in the poverty rate in 50 years, made the death rate for young Americans much higher than it otherwise would have been, Instead of simply saying, okay, everybody who's the age of 65, we need to protect those people and everybody else needs to go out and get back to work as soon as humanly possible with the protections that are available, which was always the best policy.
00:15:26.000 But anybody who pursued that policy was ripped up and down because we need, of course, more centralized control.
00:15:30.000 The best governor in America, supposedly, was Gavin Newsom in California, Andrew Cuomo in New York, Phil Murphy in New Jersey, everybody who locked down the hardest.
00:15:40.000 Everyone who locked down super-duper-duper hard, these were the best governors in the world, and we need more centralized control just like that.
00:15:46.000 That is definitely going to fix what ails the United States of America.
00:15:51.000 Really, I mean, this is what they are calling for, which is frankly kind of astonishing.
00:15:57.000 Speaking of which, Joe Biden has now shifted his tune on all of this.
00:16:00.000 It turns out that, again, when you sit outside the government and you're campaigning, it is very easy to talk about how what we need is more centralized government control as soon as Joe Biden is actually in charge, as soon as he's president.
00:16:10.000 Then it's like, you know what?
00:16:11.000 I'm going to run headlong from responsibility for any of this.
00:16:14.000 I'm just going to stand over here and... Remember that time I told you guys that this was going to be really rough and really bad?
00:16:20.000 Now give me credit for being honest with you.
00:16:22.000 Okay, except for how you blamed every COVID death on Donald Trump.
00:16:25.000 If you blame every COVID death on Donald Trump, that suggests the person who's the President of the United States is now responsible for what happened with COVID, once they become the head of the executive branch.
00:16:36.000 Here's Joe Biden running headlong from that responsibility, saying, oh, you know what?
00:16:39.000 What I actually meant, it's gonna take a lot of time for us to crush the pandemic.
00:16:42.000 Oh, that's what I meant.
00:16:45.000 Well, I'm going to shut down the virus, but I never said I'd do it in two months.
00:16:48.000 I said it took a long time to get here.
00:16:50.000 It's going to take a long time to beat it.
00:16:53.000 And so we have millions of people out there who have the virus.
00:16:57.000 We're just, for the first day, I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I've been doing other things this morning, speaking with foreign leaders, but one of the things, I think this is one of the first days that the numbers actually come down, the number of deaths, and the number on a daily basis, and the number of hospitalizations, et cetera.
00:17:13.000 It's going to take time.
00:17:15.000 It's going to take a heck of a lot of time.
00:17:17.000 Oh, well, I mean, why don't you set those expectations below the floor?
00:17:20.000 I also love how he's taking credit for the numbers coming down.
00:17:23.000 He's been in office for, it is now January 26th.
00:17:26.000 He's been in office for six days.
00:17:27.000 So he wants it both ways.
00:17:28.000 On the one hand, I'm not responsible for anything that is happening.
00:17:31.000 On the other hand, I'm responsible for all the deaths coming down.
00:17:33.000 And we'll see how this works out for him.
00:17:35.000 Meanwhile, Biden has revised his estimate.
00:17:37.000 Remember, he kept saying that he wanted to do a million shots a day.
00:17:39.000 It turns out that at the time, We're doing 1.1 million shots a day.
00:17:43.000 So he's actually talking about reducing the number of shots every day.
00:17:45.000 And he's like, look how brave I am.
00:17:47.000 Look, I have a plan.
00:17:50.000 Come on, man.
00:17:51.000 And if you asked about it, come on, man.
00:17:51.000 Come on.
00:17:53.000 Well, now he's revised once again.
00:17:55.000 And he says, actually, we're going to be ramping this thing up to 1.5 million shots a day.
00:18:00.000 Now, frankly, that shouldn't be particularly difficult.
00:18:02.000 The reality is we are currently doing 1.3 million shots a day.
00:18:05.000 In any case, here was Joe Biden now revising his estimate up.
00:18:10.000 I promise that we would get at least a 100 million vaccinations.
00:18:15.000 That's not people because sometimes you need more than one shot in the vaccination, but 100,000, 100 million shots in people's arms of the vaccine.
00:18:27.000 I think with the grace of God and the goodwill of the neighbor and the crick not rising, as the old saying goes, I think we may be able to get that to 150.
00:18:36.000 1.5 million a day, rather than 1 million a day.
00:18:40.000 But we have to meet that goal of a million a day.
00:18:43.000 Okay, again, he keeps saying a million a day.
00:18:44.000 We're already doing a million a day, dude.
00:18:46.000 Already.
00:18:47.000 We were before he took office.
00:18:48.000 And then Biden says he's asked, okay, so when is everyone who wants a vaccine going to be able to get a vaccine?
00:18:55.000 And he's like, well, how about like sometime this spring?
00:18:58.000 Oh, that's helpful.
00:18:59.000 Okay, so honestly, I have a fairly large personal stake in this particular question.
00:19:03.000 I have two parents who are both right about to turn 65.
00:19:05.000 So they are just under the age cutoff.
00:19:08.000 I am desperate to get them the vaccine.
00:19:09.000 I would love to get them the vaccine.
00:19:10.000 They are concerned about COVID.
00:19:12.000 They should be concerned about COVID.
00:19:13.000 They're not in the highest risk bracket.
00:19:16.000 And again, for people who are otherwise healthy and are 64 years old, the risk of COVID is not 100 out of 1,000 are going to die.
00:19:24.000 It's more like 4 out of 1,000, 3 out of 1,000 are going to die.
00:19:27.000 But those are not stats you want to take anyway.
00:19:29.000 So I would love to get my parents the vaccine, like as soon as humanly possible.
00:19:32.000 So I actually have a personal stake like millions and millions and millions of Americans do in making sure that we can get the vaccine as soon as possible.
00:19:38.000 So he has asked, okay, so when will anyone who wants the vaccine be able to get the vaccine?
00:19:41.000 And he's like, well, sometime, you know, sometime.
00:19:46.000 Well, I feel the confidence rising.
00:19:46.000 Appreciate it.
00:19:49.000 Well, I feel so much better about things now.
00:19:51.000 Here is Joe Biden taking control.
00:20:00.000 I think it'll be this spring.
00:20:02.000 I think we'll be able to do that this spring.
00:20:05.000 But it's going to be a logistical challenge that exceeds anything we've ever tried in this country.
00:20:12.000 But I think we can do that.
00:20:14.000 I feel confident that by summer, we're going to be well on our way to heading toward herd immunity and increasing the access for people who aren't on the first on the list, all the way going down to Meanwhile, the captains of science, first of all, if you have young kids, there's a really good case to be made, especially if we have tranched out the vaccines to adults.
00:20:37.000 If you have very young kids, there's a very solid case to be made.
00:20:39.000 You shouldn't really bother getting your kid a vaccine.
00:20:41.000 And that's not an anti-vaccination point.
00:20:43.000 That is just a point of fact, because children are not being gravely affected by this disease.
00:20:47.000 I'm talking about young children, not teenagers.
00:20:49.000 OK, so the idea that we're going to start, by the way, this is what the teachers unions I can get to that in a second.
00:20:55.000 There are a lot of teachers' unions right now who are actually pushing that every child, like my four-year-old, would have to get a vaccine shot for COVID.
00:21:02.000 My four-year-old is at zero risk, statistically speaking.
00:21:05.000 When I say zero, I mean so close to zero that it effectively is zero of, God forbid, dying from COVID.
00:21:11.000 And the teachers' unions never want to reopen.
00:21:13.000 And that is the main point.
00:21:13.000 When it comes to the politics of COVID, the notion that it's just being driven by the science, it's just nonsense.
00:21:19.000 It's just nonsense.
00:21:20.000 I'm sorry.
00:21:21.000 All over the country, there are people who are taking differential approaches to COVID.
00:21:24.000 All over the world, people are taking differential approaches to COVID.
00:21:27.000 The notion that you can just point at science to justify whatever your dumb agenda item is of the day is just not the case.
00:21:32.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second.
00:21:34.000 First, let us talk about the fact that there are a lot of people who are dropping off packages at your front door these days.
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00:21:49.000 I mean, I've got my kids who are trying to run out the front door because they want to play in the front yard.
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00:22:42.000 Okay, speaking of the idea that is promoted by folks on the left, just follow the science.
00:22:47.000 So Gavin Newsom has now canceled California's stay-at-home orders across the state.
00:22:53.000 So that will allow restaurants and businesses in some counties to reopen outdoor dining and other services.
00:22:57.000 Now, there was never any scientific data to back the closing of outdoor dining in the first place.
00:23:01.000 There's zero data that suggests that outdoor dining is a chief vector of COVID transmission.
00:23:06.000 But now, magically, the week after Joe Biden takes office, Gavin Newsom is now going to redo all of the regulations in California surrounding COVID.
00:23:14.000 How strange.
00:23:15.000 How strange.
00:23:16.000 I mean, like, wow.
00:23:17.000 Must be that the science is dictating that, right?
00:23:19.000 There's only one problem.
00:23:20.000 The science is absolutely not dictating that.
00:23:22.000 He lifted California's emergency stay.
00:23:23.000 This is according to Yanon Weiss, who's been following this stuff closely.
00:23:26.000 He lifted California's emergency stay at home orders with 50% less, 50% fewer ICU beds available now than the day he implemented it.
00:23:35.000 Okay, so literally the day he implemented it, there were a certain number of ICU beds available.
00:23:40.000 Pretty high number of ICU beds available.
00:23:42.000 And he implemented the curfew and indoor dining and all the rest of it.
00:23:46.000 We now have, like, a much, much higher percentage of California's ICUs filled by COVID-positive cases.
00:23:52.000 And now he's like, you know what?
00:23:54.000 Gonna reopen.
00:23:55.000 Almost as though the science isn't dictating this.
00:23:57.000 The politics is dictating this.
00:23:59.000 But that's always the case.
00:24:01.000 When it comes to COVID policy, so much of it is driven by politics.
00:24:05.000 So much of it.
00:24:05.000 And the most obvious example of this, of course, is the teachers' unions.
00:24:09.000 So teachers' unions are basically now saying they just don't want to teach ever again.
00:24:12.000 Now, for my money, I'm fine with that.
00:24:15.000 I hope everybody homeschools.
00:24:15.000 Seriously.
00:24:16.000 I hope everybody pulls their kids out of schools, puts them in parochial schools, puts them in private schools.
00:24:20.000 Like, take the money out of the public school system.
00:24:23.000 Take these teachers' unions at their words.
00:24:25.000 Fine.
00:24:25.000 They don't want to teach?
00:24:26.000 I don't want you teaching my kids because I think that you guys are basically garbage at it generally anyway.
00:24:30.000 I think that the teachers' unions protect the worst teachers at the expense of the best teachers.
00:24:34.000 I think that you value seniority over quality in your teachers.
00:24:38.000 I think that you create ridiculous educational missions that have very little to do with the education of the American public school child.
00:24:45.000 So, you guys don't want to come into school?
00:24:46.000 Good news.
00:24:48.000 Millions and millions of Americans have realized over the past year that they're not sure they want you teaching their kids.
00:24:51.000 But if you are a member of the Democratic Party and your big push is that public education done by teachers' unions is one of the jewels of the American system, then wouldn't you stand up to the teachers' unions at this point and say, you know, guys, you really should go back to work?
00:25:04.000 There's a new study out.
00:25:07.000 That new study suggests that there really is no elevated risk for teachers above the general population.
00:25:14.000 That, of course, is not a shock at all.
00:25:15.000 We've known this for quite a while, that there really is no elevated public risk in terms of teachers over the general population.
00:25:22.000 In fact, you would imagine they're probably at less risk generally, especially if they are teaching young kids.
00:25:27.000 Young kids are not transmitting this disease in the same way that older children are.
00:25:31.000 It also happens to be the case that younger teachers, right, if you're a 22-year-old teacher, for second graders, your level of risk is really, really minimal.
00:25:39.000 It's much lower than you going to a bar that same night.
00:25:41.000 But in a bunch of different states, we've got bars that are open and schools that are closed, which is madness.
00:25:48.000 According to The Hill, the Chicago's Teachers Union voted to defy Chicago Public Schools reopening plans for teachers and staff due to coronavirus concerns, the union announced on Sunday.
00:25:55.000 The Teachers Union, the nation's third largest school district, decided to allow all educators to conduct work remotely starting on Monday, the day kindergarten through eighth grade staff were expected to return in person.
00:26:05.000 So these are specifically teachers for young kids.
00:26:08.000 The CTU reported 86% of its 25,000 members participated in the electronic vote on Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
00:26:16.000 71% of voting members decided to deny the district's current plan to come back to in-person learning.
00:26:22.000 A CTU release said it means the overwhelming majority of you have chosen safety.
00:26:26.000 CPS did everything possible to divide us by instilling fear through threats of retaliation.
00:26:30.000 You still chose unity, solidarity, and to collectively act as one.
00:26:32.000 By the way, this just demonstrates, once again, public sector unions are a blight on the American political system.
00:26:37.000 Public sector unions would bargain collectively against the taxpayer.
00:26:41.000 and pay off the politicians to bargain on their own behalf.
00:26:44.000 It's one of the most corrupt deals in all of American politics.
00:26:48.000 Maybe the most corrupt deal.
00:26:49.000 Essentially, you now have unions that pay to get politicians elected.
00:26:53.000 They then negotiate with the politicians against the taxpayer, and the politicians use the union money in order to get reelected.
00:26:59.000 It's truly impressive legal grift.
00:27:02.000 The Chicago Sun-Times labeled the vote unusually close for CTU labor actions because 94% of voting members usually decide when to strike.
00:27:10.000 The Chicago district's official sent a letter to families on Sunday saying the return date for teachers will be delayed until Wednesday to allow for more time for negotiations and to avoid risking disruption to student learning.
00:27:20.000 Now again, there's no science to back this.
00:27:22.000 The science to suggest that these teachers are at risk and that they can't come back until X, Y, or Z, it's just nonsense.
00:27:27.000 It's not true.
00:27:29.000 In fact, there are serious questions as to whether this particular teacher strike is legal under the regulations.
00:27:34.000 But it's not just Chicago's teachers unions.
00:27:36.000 It's in Ohio as well.
00:27:39.000 According to WTOL, the largest teachers unions in the state are responding after Governor Mike DeWine announced 96% of public school districts in Ohio have signed a form committing to in-person learning by March 1st.
00:27:48.000 The unions, including the Toledo Federation of Teachers, say in a joint statement that Governor DeWine is using vaccines as a bargaining chip to open schools by March 1st.
00:27:56.000 The statement says teachers, students, families and cities will face dire consequences if schools are pressured to reopen before it is safe to do so.
00:28:02.000 Okay, it's just a lie.
00:28:05.000 It's not true.
00:28:06.000 Okay, so they're pushing that.
00:28:08.000 New Jersey teachers, they say that they don't want to come back until every single student in these schools is tested.
00:28:15.000 Again, that is nuts.
00:28:17.000 First of all, the false positive rate on the tests alone would probably make it impossible to open the schools.
00:28:22.000 But beyond that, are you insane?
00:28:25.000 Okay, the children are not the chief vector of the transmission.
00:28:28.000 There's more danger of you hanging out in the teachers' union with the other teachers than of you teaching the kids.
00:28:33.000 Perhaps the greatest example of this insanity is members of the Washington Teachers Union claiming that reopening schools for in-person learning is an example of white supremacy, and saying that if we value the mental health of students, that is a form of white privilege.
00:28:48.000 According to the Daily Wire, echoing comments made by the Chicago Teachers Union months ago that reopening schools for in-person instruction is both racist and sexist, the president of the Pasco Association of Educators, Scott Wilson, made a series of unhinged, controversial remarks during a Pasco School Board meeting, according to our friend Jason Rantz over at KTTH.
00:29:05.000 The comments were captured on video as the Board of Education conducts its meetings on Zoom amidst the coronavirus pandemic.
00:29:12.000 This particular Teachers Union head compared the effort to reopen schools to the riot at the U.S.
00:29:17.000 Capitol Wilson said, there are decisions to be made.
00:29:21.000 You stand on the lawn of the US Capitol as people break down barriers and head to the doors.
00:29:24.000 Do you follow?
00:29:25.000 You stand at the governor's mansion, the crowd breaks down barriers to enter the grounds.
00:29:28.000 Do you follow or do you choose a different way?
00:29:30.000 We must not ignore the culture of white supremacy and white privilege.
00:29:33.000 He said, we speak of equity.
00:29:35.000 We speak of the care of students, yet we listen in intensive voices saying, reopen everything.
00:29:39.000 I'm free to breathe, supporting white privilege.
00:29:42.000 Okay, in reality, the people who are the most harmed by all of these stay-at-home orders have been children who are black and Hispanic.
00:29:48.000 Because disproportionately, kids who are black and Hispanic go to public schools.
00:29:52.000 And particularly their parents need them in the public schools so they can go work.
00:29:57.000 Because in single-parent households, which are disproportionately in black and Hispanic families, If you can't drop your kid at school, how exactly are you gonna go to work that day?
00:30:06.000 And this is madness.
00:30:07.000 So Joe Biden was asked about all of this, right?
00:30:09.000 So Joe Biden gets asked about the teachers' unions and whether they should return to schools.
00:30:14.000 And Joe Biden sidesteps the question.
00:30:15.000 Because again, it's amazing.
00:30:17.000 You hear all the time about the corruption of money in politics.
00:30:19.000 You heard this from the Bernie Sanders group.
00:30:21.000 Well, there's so much money in politics, it's so terrible.
00:30:23.000 Also, I would love to receive a $100 million investment from the teachers' unions to go and doorknock for me.
00:30:30.000 I mean, it's just, it's incredible.
00:30:32.000 They're explicitly bargaining against the interests of their own students.
00:30:35.000 And then, Joe Biden is out there defending them.
00:30:39.000 It is a high-level form of corruption, right in plain sight.
00:30:43.000 The fact that labor unions have this much power with our federal and state governments is nuts.
00:30:48.000 It's nuts.
00:30:50.000 And the fact that the National Labor Relations Act is so biased in favor of collective bargaining that would be considered collusion if it were done by employers.
00:30:58.000 But as soon as it is done by employees, it is now considered not collusion, but something magical.
00:31:02.000 The NLRA is a terrible piece of legislation.
00:31:05.000 But put that aside, the very existence of public sector unions is in most cases a blight on the Republic.
00:31:12.000 But here is Joe Biden, this is just an example, refusing to condemn teachers' unions that are cutting directly.
00:31:18.000 Here's Captain Science here.
00:31:20.000 As kids are being put out of school all across the nation, again, even though we're reopening outdoor dining and we're reopening indoor dining, here's Joe Biden.
00:31:30.000 Do you believe, sir, that teachers should return to schools now?
00:31:34.000 I believe we should make school classrooms safe and secure for the students, for the teachers, and for the help that's in those schools maintaining the facilities.
00:31:51.000 We need new ventilation systems in those schools.
00:31:54.000 We need testing for people coming in and out of the classes.
00:31:59.000 Okay, so basically I'm just going to avoid all of this.
00:32:01.000 By the way, my kids have been in school since the beginning of the year.
00:32:05.000 to know that in fact the circumstance in the school is safe and secure for everyone.
00:32:13.000 Okay, so basically I'm just going to avoid all of this.
00:32:16.000 By the way, my kids have been in school since the beginning of the year, no problem.
00:32:20.000 And my kids are, two of them under the age of seven are in school and there's been no problem.
00:32:24.000 They've taken precautions like masking.
00:32:25.000 They put up a little plexiglass on the tables.
00:32:27.000 The teachers are there.
00:32:28.000 The teachers have not been infected.
00:32:30.000 But apparently it's the end of the world.
00:32:31.000 Again, the willingness of the media to overlook the insane corruption of keeping millions and millions, tens of millions of school kids at home so teachers' unions can sit at home and get rich.
00:32:42.000 I mean, really, the unions are getting rich, not the people who are members of the unions, the unions themselves.
00:32:47.000 It's super corrupt.
00:32:48.000 How tied in is the Biden administration to these unions?
00:32:52.000 So tied in that Randi Weingarten was originally considered a possibility for Secretary of Education, the head of the American Federation of Teachers.
00:32:58.000 But here she was this week saying that she stands behind teachers who are refusing to go back to school.
00:33:03.000 Of course, we stand 100 percent behind the Chicago Union.
00:33:07.000 But, you know, the issue really is, you know, just like we said last summer, When we said we would support these safety strikes, the issue is we know that in-school learning is really important and vital for children.
00:33:22.000 And so we are trying to take the steps in different places to make that happen.
00:33:29.000 Okay, so yeah, those teachers unions.
00:33:31.000 They're all for the students though.
00:33:32.000 They're all for the students.
00:33:34.000 Okay, in a second we're gonna get to everything impeachment related because that is now moving forward.
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00:35:57.000 ♪♪ Meanwhile, the House impeachment managers have decided to deliver the articles to the Senate.
00:36:08.000 They walked these things, the articles, solemnly over to the Senate chamber.
00:36:11.000 Apparently only about three Republicans were there.
00:36:13.000 And then the Democrats were very angry that more Republicans didn't show up to receive the articles of impeachment.
00:36:18.000 Why aren't they taking this seriously?
00:36:20.000 Why aren't they taking this seriously?
00:36:21.000 Well...
00:36:22.000 I mean, there are a couple of reasons.
00:36:24.000 One is that pretty much everybody can see what this mostly is.
00:36:28.000 It isn't to say there isn't a case for convicting Trump in the Senate.
00:36:31.000 Liz Cheney, I think, has made that case.
00:36:33.000 What it is to say is that it is pretty obviously by Democrats a political ploy.
00:36:37.000 Most of what is going on right here is a political ploy.
00:36:39.000 So here is the logic.
00:36:41.000 Everybody knows, including the Democrats, that Trump isn't actually going to get convicted here.
00:36:45.000 He isn't going to get convicted because the articles of impeachment are not specific.
00:36:48.000 They do not even allege a real crime.
00:36:50.000 When they say that he incited violence, he literally said at that rally that he wanted people to peacefully protest.
00:36:54.000 Now, does that mean it was good what he did?
00:36:56.000 No!
00:36:56.000 Many things can be not good.
00:36:57.000 Presidents do not good things.
00:36:59.000 I would say 80% of the time, they're doing not good things.
00:37:02.000 But does that mean that every single thing that they do is impeachable conduct?
00:37:07.000 Now, impeachment, again, is a political tool, so you can impeach for anything.
00:37:11.000 But typically, if you're going to allege a crime like incitement, you'd actually have to bring the goods.
00:37:15.000 The problem is, what is the neutral standard that is going to be used here for impeachment?
00:37:19.000 If the neutral standard is going to be...
00:37:21.000 A person who is an office holder is not allowed to challenge or doubt the results of an election.
00:37:28.000 That neutral standard obviously doesn't hold because we saw several years here of Democrats suggesting the 2016 election was rigged by the Russians.
00:37:34.000 If the neutral standard is you are not allowed to use inflammatory language such that some bad people could get it in their heads to go to a bad thing, that also is not going to hold because, as we have seen many times this has happened on a wide variety of political perspectives.
00:37:46.000 Anybody who has a large enough crowd is going to have some nuts in the crowd.
00:37:49.000 Now again, none of that is to say that Trump's rhetoric was good or that Trump saying what he said about the election was somehow true.
00:37:55.000 None of it was.
00:37:57.000 Putting all of that aside, the impeachable conduct here, there's really not a solid neutral standard of conduct here that is going to apply.
00:38:06.000 And what I've seen is that the results of Trump's conduct were so egregious that he requires impeachment on just a moral level.
00:38:12.000 I guess you can make that case.
00:38:13.000 OK, but then you would have to make the case that literally anybody who uses inflammatory language in American political life and then somebody goes and does something bad, even if they didn't call for that person to do something bad, ought to be thrown out of American public life.
00:38:24.000 And you can see that there are folks who are extending the logic here.
00:38:26.000 So, for example, Joe Scarborough immediately extended the logic to Josh Hawley.
00:38:31.000 So Josh Hawley did something I thought was incredibly cynical, right?
00:38:33.000 I said it at the time.
00:38:34.000 I thought it was a very cynical move by Josh Hawley to suggest that he could challenge electors or overthrow the results of the election by simply suggesting that there was some sort of vague voter irregularity or fraud.
00:38:43.000 In fact, when asked directly whether there was voter fraud or irregularity sufficient to overthrow the electors themselves, Hawley demurred on that particular question.
00:38:52.000 So it's pretty obvious that what he was doing was cynical.
00:38:54.000 Cynical action by politicians is not, in fact, impeachable action by politicians, nor is it typically linked to violence.
00:39:00.000 That's not what Joe Scarborough had to say.
00:39:02.000 He says that Josh Hawley incited the violence, right?
00:39:04.000 It's not just Trump.
00:39:05.000 Hawley incited the violence.
00:39:06.000 Presumably Ted Cruz incited the violence.
00:39:07.000 Presumably every single one of the Republican legislators who voted to challenge the election incited the violence.
00:39:13.000 All of them are responsible for inciting the violence.
00:39:15.000 Now, again, those things could be bad and also not inciting of violence.
00:39:20.000 And understand that this is part of a broader rubric from the left that anything that they don't like is quote-unquote incitement to violence.
00:39:26.000 You'll notice that the left never holds that standard with regard to a Bernie Sanders supporter shooting up members of a congressional baseball game.
00:39:31.000 You'll never hear the argument that Barack Obama's language with regard to police is responsible for a Black Lives Matter supporter shooting dead six police officers in Dallas in 2016.
00:39:40.000 You won't hear that Nearly ever.
00:39:41.000 You're not going to hear that it was Democratic views of policing and race in America that incited $1 to $2 billion worth of property damage and violence over the summer, right?
00:39:50.000 That's not a standard that is going to be held here.
00:39:52.000 The idea here is just that it's only conservatives and Republicans who are to be held to this particular standard.
00:39:59.000 Now, again, I can think that we all ought to bring down the temperature and that's fine, right?
00:40:03.000 That's fine.
00:40:04.000 Does that mean that people ought to be cast out of public life for using inflammatory language?
00:40:07.000 If so, it's going to be difficult to do politics in the future.
00:40:10.000 In any case, here is Joe Scarborough basically suggesting it's not just Trump that must go, it's every single person who supported Trump on any level since the election.
00:40:20.000 I mean, he's a seditionist.
00:40:21.000 He led an insurrection.
00:40:22.000 He's responsible for cops being murdered.
00:40:25.000 He's responsible for everything that we saw.
00:40:28.000 He was at the forefront of it.
00:40:30.000 He should be kicked out of the United States Senate.
00:40:33.000 And here's the thing.
00:40:34.000 Democrats know this is going nowhere.
00:40:35.000 So here is Joe Biden yesterday saying, you know what, impeachment, it has to happen.
00:40:40.000 CNN reports that Biden says impeachment has to happen, even though there's not going to be a conviction.
00:40:45.000 He told me, Aaron, quote, just a few minutes ago, I think it has to happen.
00:40:49.000 He said that he did understand the effect that it could have, of course, given that it will basically be all-consuming for the Senate, given however long it could last.
00:40:57.000 But, Aaron, he said he thinks the effect if that trial for President Trump, former President Trump, didn't happen would have a worse effect if it did not go forward.
00:41:05.000 We talked about this.
00:41:06.000 Of course, Joe Biden is someone who served in the Senate for a very long time.
00:41:10.000 I asked him if he thinks that Donald Trump would be acquitted for a second time.
00:41:14.000 He said that he does not believe 17 Republican senators would vote to convict him.
00:41:19.000 Okay, so if the conviction is not a real likelihood, then what is the real goal here?
00:41:24.000 So the real goal here is twofold, obviously.
00:41:26.000 Well, maybe threefold.
00:41:27.000 One is to castigate Republicans as lacking moral principle if they don't vote to convict Trump after he's already out of office.
00:41:33.000 And again, I think that as this thing drags on, more and more Americans are gonna be like, why are we bothering with this?
00:41:37.000 Because Americans just don't have a taste for this sort of stuff after the person is out of office.
00:41:42.000 Okay, but there are two other goals here as well.
00:41:44.000 Okay, goal number, it's a win-win for Democrats, obviously.
00:41:47.000 Again, the analysis I'm about to do here is a pure political analysis.
00:41:51.000 It is not about the morality of actually Holding Trump to conviction here.
00:41:57.000 Holding Trump to conviction, I think that reasonable minds can differ on whether what Trump did constitutes quote-unquote impeachable conduct.
00:42:02.000 Because again, I have a real tough time suggesting that just because somebody uses inflammatory language without actually inciting violence, they're then responsible for what happens next.
00:42:11.000 I just think that's an unsustainable standard in American political life.
00:42:15.000 And again, I've been consistent on that left to right, but putting that aside, the actual politics here, what are Democrats actually doing here?
00:42:21.000 Do I think that this is all about principle for Democrats?
00:42:22.000 No, I really don't think this is all about principle for Democrats, like at all.
00:42:26.000 I think for the vast majority of elected Democrats, this is about a win-win scenario.
00:42:29.000 Scenario number one.
00:42:31.000 Trump goes up for conviction in the Senate.
00:42:34.000 It is voted down.
00:42:36.000 And Trump then claims, look, they tried to get me again.
00:42:38.000 And then he runs in 2024, which is what Democrats would like, right?
00:42:42.000 Democrats want Trump to run in 2024.
00:42:44.000 They think he's eminently beatable.
00:42:46.000 Last election shows that that is not a malformed thought.
00:42:50.000 They believe that Trump in a Republican primary would still garner 25, 30% of the vote.
00:42:55.000 There's every likelihood that that would happen.
00:42:58.000 And so for them, they're like, OK, so scenario number one is Republicans vote down the conviction.
00:43:02.000 We then get to castigate the entire Republican Party as amoral and immoral.
00:43:06.000 And to boot, Trump will then run again.
00:43:09.000 So it'll really finish them for years to come.
00:43:11.000 Then there's possibility number two, which is that you somehow get enough Republicans to vote to convict and Trump is barred from holding future office.
00:43:19.000 Okay, well, then all that would happen, presumably, is that Trump would start a third party, he'd prop up some other figure as the head of that third party, and he would just break the Republican Party right down the middle, right?
00:43:29.000 He's already talked about starting a Patriot Party, right?
00:43:32.000 He's already talked, which, by the way, according to some polls, is polling higher than the Republican Presidential Party would be in 2024.
00:43:39.000 Now, again, we're four years out.
00:43:42.000 But for Democrats, the goal here is chaos.
00:43:44.000 I don't actually believe that this is about holding people to account for most of the elected Democrats.
00:43:49.000 These elected Democrats, they don't hold anybody to account.
00:43:53.000 They wouldn't even pass a resolution censoring Ilhan Omar for being an anti-Semite.
00:43:56.000 I don't buy it.
00:43:58.000 My opinion of politicians is so low.
00:44:00.000 I think most of them are politically motivated.
00:44:02.000 I think most of them are cynical.
00:44:03.000 I think most of them are ambitious.
00:44:04.000 I don't think that they are standing on some sort of higher principle here.
00:44:08.000 In any case, here was Chuck Schumer pretending that he stands on higher principle.
00:44:12.000 We still can look back.
00:44:13.000 And we have to.
00:44:14.000 You can't sweep some of these egregious things under the rug.
00:44:17.000 Plain and simple.
00:44:18.000 Trump was... You know, his act on the 6th was the most despicable thing any president has ever done.
00:44:26.000 And he is the worst president ever.
00:44:30.000 And you cannot just... Let's move on.
00:44:32.000 You gotta look back.
00:44:33.000 Okay, so first of all, the reason that they keep saying they want to look back is, of course, so then they can look at Trump and they can keep saying how wonderful Biden is.
00:44:39.000 And that's the goal.
00:44:40.000 Keep Trump as the specter.
00:44:42.000 And then you just say, well, by contrast, look how normal things are now.
00:44:44.000 Look how amazing things are now.
00:44:46.000 Also, the idea that this is the worst thing any president has ever done is make a speech on the Washington Mall in which you encourage people to peacefully protest while using inflammatory language.
00:44:53.000 Like, of all the things presidents have done, no, I actually don't think that, put aside what the supporters did, what the supporters did is one of the worst things in American history, right?
00:45:01.000 Breaching the actual Capitol building, looking for blood.
00:45:03.000 That's one of the worst things in American history.
00:45:05.000 What Trump actually did that day, is that the worst, like, the worst thing?
00:45:10.000 The president, like, frankly, I think that it's worse what he did by calling Brad Raffensperger.
00:45:13.000 I think that it's worse what he did by simply suggesting over and over and over that the election was stolen from Montana.
00:45:18.000 I think that was worse.
00:45:19.000 One of the worst things, the worst thing a president has ever done?
00:45:22.000 We've had presidents who interned hundreds of thousands of Japanese people.
00:45:25.000 We've had presidents who screened Birth of a Nation in the White House.
00:45:29.000 We had presidents who held slaves.
00:45:30.000 Like, no?
00:45:34.000 No on that one?
00:45:34.000 But, with that said, the political manipulation here is quite clear.
00:45:38.000 Quick note.
00:45:39.000 John Roberts, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, normally would preside over an impeachment trial.
00:45:42.000 He has demurred.
00:45:43.000 He says, I'm not going to do that.
00:45:45.000 So it's going to be a Democrat presiding over the impeachment trial, which just makes the thing even more of a circus than it otherwise would be.
00:45:51.000 Okay, meanwhile, the censorship in the media continues apace.
00:45:55.000 So I would be remiss if I did not mention a story that has continued to play out for the last couple of weeks.
00:46:00.000 And it is kind of astonishing because the absolute insanity and immaturity of some members of the left, it's beyond the pale.
00:46:07.000 I have three kids under the age of seven.
00:46:09.000 They're not the most mature children.
00:46:12.000 They're mature for their ages.
00:46:13.000 But when I say mature for their ages, they are almost seven, four, and less than one.
00:46:18.000 So not all that mature, just in sort of general human standards.
00:46:22.000 They have significantly more maturity than the entire combined staff of Politico, apparently.
00:46:27.000 So Politico, you remember a couple of weeks ago, vast grief and rage broke out because Politico's playbook had asked me to write the playbook one day.
00:46:35.000 Now that followed on Chris Hayes writing the playbook, Yamiche Alcindor from PBS, who's a far left liberal, She had written the playbook.
00:46:42.000 Don Lemon wrote the playbook after I did.
00:46:44.000 Kara Swisher, who's a censorious, awful leftist columnist for the New York Times, she wrote the playbook.
00:46:50.000 So I wrote the playbook because they wanted somebody on the right.
00:46:53.000 So I wrote the playbook, and the basic point I made in Politico's playbook was the entire goal of the left seems to be to lump in everybody on the right with the Capitol rioters so they can then say everybody on the right is dangerous and ban them.
00:47:03.000 That was my entire point.
00:47:05.000 That was the entire piece.
00:47:07.000 People at Politico went nuts.
00:47:08.000 They had a staff phone call with 225 members of the staff, most of them from the newsroom because these are newsmakers.
00:47:14.000 These are people who cover your journalism and crew.
00:47:17.000 They got very angry and they shouted at the editors, but that didn't work.
00:47:20.000 Cause the editors were like, you know what?
00:47:21.000 We're going to have a lot of people from a lot of different sides of the political aisle.
00:47:24.000 And you citing battle tweets from 2012 that Shapiro's already explained multiple times.
00:47:29.000 That's not going to do it.
00:47:31.000 So what did they do?
00:47:32.000 A hundred staffers decided to go over the heads of the editors and directly to the publisher of Politico and whine about this.
00:47:39.000 Amazing, amazing people.
00:47:41.000 According to the Daily Beast, Maxwell Tani, who's again one of these censorious types, would love to see nothing better than all of the folks on the right deplatformed ASAP.
00:47:49.000 That always gets the scoop when far leftists decide that it's time to try to get somebody canceled.
00:47:54.000 So here's what the Daily Beast reports.
00:47:57.000 More than 100 Politico staffers signed onto a letter sent to publisher Robert Albritton, expressing disgust with allowing right-wing firebrand Ben Shapiro to guest author one day's edition of the playbook, and with the outlet's subsequent handling of the fallout.
00:48:11.000 One day, I wrote a piece for Politico.
00:48:14.000 A piece.
00:48:16.000 And 100 people at Politico were like, how dare you?
00:48:21.000 Now listen, they can't cancel me over at Politico.
00:48:24.000 I don't work for Politico.
00:48:25.000 I don't care.
00:48:26.000 I didn't write for Politico because I needed Politico's money.
00:48:29.000 And so they can't cancel me.
00:48:30.000 That's not what this is about.
00:48:32.000 What this is about is pressuring editors into never having anybody who's remotely right-wing write for their publications.
00:48:38.000 That is what this is truly about.
00:48:39.000 And I'm not even talking about me.
00:48:41.000 Okay, first of all, the attempt to castigate me, as Politico staffers apparently have been doing, as a white supremacist, are patently insane.
00:48:47.000 I mean, totally crazy, as anybody who has ever listened to this show knows, as anybody who's listened to my speeches knows.
00:48:53.000 I've given, like, full-length, 45-minute dissertations in front of thousands of people about how terrible white supremacy is.
00:49:00.000 I did one at Stanford, I think it was, last year.
00:49:04.000 Okay, so, like, this is not a thing.
00:49:06.000 Okay, but it's not just me.
00:49:09.000 I happen to know columnists who are really, really anti-Trump.
00:49:12.000 Like, so anti-Trump that they piss off mainstream conservatives on a regular basis.
00:49:16.000 One comes to mind.
00:49:17.000 I won't mention his name.
00:49:19.000 He was asked to be a columnist for the Washington Post.
00:49:23.000 And then, members of the Washington Post staff realized that he believes that biological men and women exist.
00:49:28.000 He was immediately canceled.
00:49:29.000 Nope, we're not gonna allow him to write for the Washington Post anymore.
00:49:32.000 By the way, there are columnists for the Washington Post like Eric Wemple, who are like, you know, big publications don't need to give Shapiro a platform.
00:49:37.000 He has a place where you can hear him.
00:49:39.000 I will just note to Eric Wemple of the Washington Post, I wrote for the Washington Post in 2016.
00:49:45.000 I wrote a piece for them in 2016.
00:49:46.000 So you might want to talk to your editors over there, dude.
00:49:49.000 In any case, the Daily Beast staffers were so mad.
00:49:52.000 We sent them a bunch of Leftist Tears tumblers.
00:49:55.000 They're on back order because we have so many people who want them.
00:49:57.000 We sent them some Leftist Tears tumblers.
00:49:59.000 I wouldn't want them to get their tears all over their laptops where they are busy journalisming all over the place.
00:50:05.000 According to the Daily Beast, Earlier this month, the Beltway News Outlet handed over the keys to its signature news product to Shapiro, a talk radio host and pundit who has long been one of the most controversial voices in right-wing media, thanks in part to his incendiary comments about the LGBT community, Muslim, Black Americans, and Jews who support Democratic politicians.
00:50:24.000 The guest appearance, part of a series of guest appearances by political media figures, including Chris Hayes and Chuck Todd.
00:50:29.000 They're not controversial, by the way.
00:50:30.000 Chris Hayes, not controversial at all.
00:50:32.000 I love how I'm a right-wing firebrand.
00:50:33.000 Chris Hayes, he's just a guy.
00:50:35.000 He's just a media figure.
00:50:36.000 Wow, unsatisfactory to the employees?
00:50:37.000 Wow, terrible!
00:50:38.000 By the way, you know what we call unsatisfactory to the employees here at The Daily Wire?
00:50:40.000 own newsroom. But the resulting response from Politico Brass was unsatisfactory to a number of employees. Wow, unsatisfactory to the employees? Wow, terrible. By the way, you know what we call unsatisfactory to the employees here at the Daily Wire?
00:50:56.000 A job. That's what we call Because you're getting paid to do things that are unsatisfactory to you nearly every single day.
00:51:03.000 It's called employment, gang.
00:51:05.000 According to multiple political insiders familiar with the situation, the letter to Albritton criticized the decision to publish Shapiro, claiming it had demoralized a substantial portion of the newsroom.
00:51:15.000 Oh, it demoralized you?
00:51:17.000 That's sad.
00:51:18.000 What happened?
00:51:18.000 What happened?
00:51:19.000 You couldn't report on how wonderful Joe Biden's dog is today because you were so depressed that I wrote a piece for you two weeks ago?
00:51:26.000 You fragile little babies.
00:51:27.000 Seriously.
00:51:28.000 My goodness.
00:51:29.000 I'm so demoralized.
00:51:30.000 I can't even- Every time I start to write- Every time I start to do my job, I think of the fact that Shapiro's name appeared in Politico and I just- I can't!
00:51:30.000 Oh my god.
00:51:37.000 I can't- I- Wha- I- I need my- I need the wambulance.
00:51:43.000 During a combative meeting on January 14th, the day of Shapiro's publication, the top editor defended the editorial decision to irate staffers by claiming mischief-making has always been part of Politico's secret sauce.
00:51:53.000 The staff letter sent 10 days ago to Albritton maintained that Matt Kaminsky, who's the editor, had not appropriately apologized for his responses, additionally referencing an email he sent to staff on January 15th, obtained and reviewed by the Daily Beast.
00:52:04.000 By the way, Leaking internal memos to the Daily Beast should be a fireable offense.
00:52:09.000 Should it not over a political?
00:52:10.000 Maybe you guys ought to get on that.
00:52:11.000 In the email, the top editor expressed regret for his initial response about making mischief, but reiterated that publishing Shapiro was part of his hopes to experiment and mix things up in order to keep political vital and vibrant to its readers.
00:52:21.000 In response, the letter's signees asked all Britain how Shapiro's extensive record of bigotry can be considered vibrant or vital, because that's the way this works.
00:52:29.000 Okay, the way that it works is if you've ever said anything that you regret, or if you've ever said anything that people can interpret wrongly, As terrible and horrible and no good and very bad.
00:52:37.000 This means that you must never be allowed to speak ever again, ever in history.
00:52:42.000 I'm glad Politico staffers are so pure.
00:52:45.000 Man, the woke mob.
00:52:46.000 You either join it or they come after you.
00:52:48.000 That's the way that it works over there.
00:52:50.000 Elsewhere in the notes to their publisher, the Politico staffers called for a commitment to clarify and improve the outlet's editorial standards.
00:52:56.000 An increase in newsroom diversity.
00:52:58.000 Ah, so it's just a demand letter.
00:52:59.000 It's just that these guys are gonna hold hostage Politico's image so they can get a bunch of crap that Politico doesn't wanna do.
00:53:05.000 A commitment to clarify and improve the outlet's editorial standards, which means we want a veto on what gets printed, just like the New York Times has basically handed over veto power to the pseudo-journalist and fictionalized historian, Nikole Hannah-Jones.
00:53:17.000 An increase in newsroom diversity, so they want hiring based on race.
00:53:19.000 An editor's note on Shapiro's edition of Playbook, so they want like a little note at the bottom saying, Shapiro's a bigot, but we published him anyway.
00:53:25.000 We're really sad about that, but we're not pulling it.
00:53:27.000 And an internal apology for the management response to staff criticism of publishing Shapiro.
00:53:32.000 Despite the 100-plus signatures to the note, some Politico staffers stressed to the Daily Beast it did not represent the overall mood at the publication.
00:53:39.000 Several of the company's 300 editorial employees said they hadn't even heard about the effort or weren't asked to sign the letter.
00:53:44.000 Others said they were encouraged that Kaminsky and other top editors had been meeting over the past several days with newsroom employees in attempts to avoid blow-ups like the Shapiro saga.
00:53:51.000 Well, I mean, I'm so glad that they've been meeting with the whiniest among them to avoid the blow-ups.
00:53:57.000 Okay, all of this speaks to a broader problem, not just in media, but also in social media.
00:54:01.000 So, Twitter is now launching a new program in which community members are going to be able to warn Twitter about other people saying the bads.
00:54:09.000 Twitter on Monday, according to Fox News, has unveiled a new community-driven approach to misleading information on its platform, allowing users to add notes to tweets they believe are false in an attempt to, quote-unquote, add context for other users.
00:54:21.000 This can't be misused in any way.
00:54:21.000 Oh, good.
00:54:23.000 We're going to crowdsource fact-checking over Twitter.
00:54:27.000 Wonderful idea.
00:54:28.000 No way that this goes wrong in any way.
00:54:31.000 It's called Birdwatch.
00:54:33.000 On Birdwatch, no account and no tweet is exempt from annotation, meaning users can add context to tweets posted by news outlets, reporters, and elected officials.
00:54:41.000 Birdwatch will allow users to identify information in tweets they believe are misleading or false, and write notes or notations to those tweets in a way they feel is providing informative context.
00:54:51.000 Participants will be able to annotate any tweet once.
00:54:53.000 They will have the option to cite source material in their annotation, including from news outlets, meaning users can annotate one news outlet's tweets by citing other news outlet's tweets.
00:55:03.000 Oh, oh good.
00:55:04.000 Sounds great.
00:55:07.000 So it's a community-driven approach.
00:55:09.000 Okay, so here's the thing.
00:55:09.000 When you have a majoritarian-driven approach to denying particular arguments as anti-factual, that is the precise opposite of free speech.
00:55:17.000 Okay, free speech is about protecting voices that require protection, namely minority voices generally.
00:55:23.000 Twitter instead is gonna be like, what if the mob gets you?
00:55:25.000 Okay, that already exists.
00:55:26.000 It's just called Twitter, that's all.
00:55:29.000 It's just called Twitter.
00:55:30.000 Twitter explained to Fox News the company is not doing a fact check with Birdwatch, and that it is not a true or false tool, but instead a way to quote-unquote add context.
00:55:36.000 And this is the way the fact checkers do it at these major companies.
00:55:39.000 They no longer just rate whether your statement is true or false.
00:55:42.000 Instead, they say they are going to add context.
00:55:45.000 Except when they are trying to not add context.
00:55:48.000 When they are trying to not add context, then they just don't add the context.
00:55:51.000 Then they just rate the statement on the pure true and false of the statement.
00:55:55.000 It's pretty incredible how they do all of this.
00:55:58.000 For those of us in media, there's a real challenge to confront.
00:56:00.000 who is of course coming under fire because Fox News has become the focal point of the left's attempts to silence them.
00:56:05.000 That's not a shock in any way, shape or form, of course, because the left has been attempting to silence Fox News literally since inception.
00:56:11.000 So Rupert Murdoch gave a speech the other day in which he condemned the awful woke orthodoxy.
00:56:16.000 Good for him.
00:56:16.000 For those of us in media, there's a real challenge to confront, a wave of censorship that seeks to silence conversation, to stifle debate and ultimately stop individuals and societies from realising their potential.
00:56:34.000 Bye!
00:56:36.000 This rigidly enforced conformity, aided and abetted by so-called social media, is a straitjacket on sensibility.
00:56:46.000 Too many people have fought too hard in too many places for freedom of speech to be suppressed by this awful woke orthodoxy.
00:56:56.000 He happens to be correct about this.
00:56:58.000 The goal then is to shut down Fox News.
00:57:01.000 You have Margaret Sullivan, the Washington Post columnist, literally tweeting out media matters links to Fox News advertisers.
00:57:07.000 And people on the right, by the way, going along with some of this stuff because they're so angry over what happened on January 6th that they are willing to go along with the left's version of everything that the right says is dangerous and so we must ban it.
00:57:17.000 The most recent example I saw, so last night, Media Matters did what they do, which is they took somebody out of context.
00:57:23.000 They went on Tucker Carlson's show.
00:57:24.000 Tucker was making a First Amendment defense.
00:57:27.000 And he was saying, okay, even the dumbest theories that people have, even the stuff that people say, that is like the dumbest stuff, you still have a right to think that stuff in the United States of America.
00:57:35.000 And then he played a montage of members of the media basically saying that people who are associated with the idiotic and conspiratorial QAnon idea, that those people ought to be silenced.
00:57:44.000 And Tucker was making the broader argument, not about the veracity of, again, the idiotic, dangerous, and ridiculous conspiracy theory of QAnon.
00:57:50.000 I mean, it's ridiculous on its face.
00:57:52.000 It's stupid.
00:57:53.000 It's inflammatory and just dumb in every possible way.
00:57:57.000 That was not Tucker's point.
00:57:58.000 Tucker's point was, you still have a right to think dumb things in the United States, which used to be sort of the baseline of freedom, right?
00:58:03.000 Media Matters took that clip.
00:58:04.000 They said he was defending QAnon, which he absolutely was not.
00:58:07.000 And members of the right started tweeting out the clip.
00:58:10.000 Members of the right were like, oh, you know what?
00:58:12.000 Yeah, maybe they have a point here.
00:58:13.000 Tucker's bad.
00:58:14.000 Okay, again, guys, you're losing the thread.
00:58:16.000 You are losing the thread.
00:58:18.000 If you're tweeting out Media Matters clips, there's a good shot that you have lost the thread here.
00:58:22.000 It was always a matter of, for the left, it's all about weaponizing.
00:58:26.000 It is all about, not for good-hearted liberals.
00:58:28.000 Again, there are good-hearted liberals who I think differ with people like me on impeachment.
00:58:32.000 That's fair, that's fine.
00:58:33.000 But I think there are a lot of people who are not liberal, who are just leftists, and they're using every opportunity they can to quash people who they disagree with on every single side.
00:58:41.000 And it's disgusting, and it's gross, and it's terrible for the country.
00:58:44.000 Alrighty, we're going to be back here later today with an additional hour of The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:58:47.000 In the meantime, head on over to The Michael Moles Show.
00:58:50.000 Disney Plus is now censoring classic films for children under seven.
00:58:53.000 I don't know if you knew this.
00:58:55.000 They're like taking down Peter Pan and Dumbo so my kids can't watch them because they are supposedly racially insensitive.
00:59:02.000 Michael will get into that news in today's show.
00:59:04.000 That is available right now.
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00:59:37.000 President Biden extends the pandemic timeline as 15 days to slow the spread closes in on a year.
00:59:43.000 Disney censors Peter Pan for political incorrectness.
00:59:47.000 And lazy teachers justify their refusal to work by whining about white supremacy.