The Ben Shapiro Show - October 16, 2020


Dueling Town Halls | Ep. 1117

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00:01:30.000 Alrighty, so last night we had two dueling town halls.
00:01:34.000 It's where you cue dueling banjos because that's basically what it was.
00:01:38.000 On one side, you had Joe Biden being treated to a massage from George Stepanopoulos.
00:01:42.000 And on the other, you had what appeared to be some sort of sadistic ritual happening in which Savannah Guthrie basically whipped Donald Trump over and over and over and asked him to shout, may I have another?
00:01:55.000 I mean, that was pretty much the dueling perspective.
00:01:58.000 Like, you knew this is what was going to happen.
00:02:01.000 This is the big problem with the media.
00:02:02.000 Now, listen.
00:02:03.000 Does Savannah Guthrie have every right to go after Trump and ask him tough questions? 1.00
00:02:06.000 Of course.
00:02:07.000 But the problem is that George Stephanopoulos does not go after Joe Biden and ask him tough questions.
00:02:10.000 So here is the deal.
00:02:12.000 Either everyone ought to get grilled or no one ought to get grilled.
00:02:14.000 Either we ought to have an infomercial for Joe Biden and an infomercial for Donald Trump, or we ought to have a grilling for Joe Biden and a grilling for Donald Trump.
00:02:21.000 But every single person who works in network news is going to vote for Joe Biden.
00:02:25.000 And so they probably couldn't even identify anyone who's willing to show up and ask a tough question of Joe Biden.
00:02:29.000 The scandal here really is not Savannah Guthrie's treatment of Trump, although it was egregious.
00:02:33.000 And a lot of her questions I thought were poorly handled.
00:02:36.000 I thought a lot of her questions were simply bad or irrelevant. 1.00
00:02:40.000 The real scandal is that no one will ask Joe Biden a tough question or a follow-up tough question when he makes a stupid statement. 1.00
00:02:47.000 No one. 0.99
00:02:47.000 And he won't appear with anybody who will. 0.99
00:02:49.000 And this is all considered totally fine and totally okay.
00:02:52.000 Again, it can be grillings for all or grillings for none.
00:02:55.000 What you can't have is in the famous phrase of The Simpsons, abortions for some and American flags for others. 0.73
00:03:00.000 That's not the way this works.
00:03:01.000 You don't get to, as a media, proclaim that you're objective and then treat the two candidates in polar opposite ways.
00:03:07.000 So the lead up to all of this was again demonstrative of the bias that is latent and actually in many cases open in the mainstream media.
00:03:16.000 Remember that there was supposed to be a debate last night between Biden and Trump, which Trump frankly needs because Trump needs to be able to ask Biden questions that moderators simply will not ask Joe Biden or follow up on.
00:03:26.000 Well, that debate got canceled specifically last week because Donald Trump came down with COVID.
00:03:31.000 It was done without any medical input.
00:03:33.000 It was done without any medical advice.
00:03:34.000 It was done a week in advance of the debate.
00:03:37.000 It made no sense at all.
00:03:38.000 We pointed this out at the time.
00:03:39.000 It mainly appeared like the Commission on Presidential Debate panicked, and like they wanted to give an excuse for the debate not to happen, and so they canceled it in advance, barring some sort of Zoom debate.
00:03:50.000 And Trump said, I'm not doing a Zoom debate because Joe Biden's gonna read off a teleprompter, and also it allows you to mute me, and it totally kills the dynamics, so I'm not gonna do that.
00:03:58.000 And the Commission on Presidential Debate said, well, we take COVID seriously.
00:04:01.000 Okay, so you end up last night with two in-person town halls.
00:04:06.000 So why couldn't they have just been, you know, in the same room, like far apart from one another?
00:04:11.000 Especially because Trump now no longer transmits the disease.
00:04:13.000 I mean, we now know that he's had at least two negative tests this week.
00:04:17.000 We know that he was not going to transmit it to Joe Biden.
00:04:20.000 In fact, of all human beings on planet Earth, the person who is least likely to transmit this disease to Joe Biden at this point is Donald Trump because he has now had it and he is no longer transmitting it, according to his own doctors.
00:04:31.000 Doesn't matter.
00:04:31.000 Commission on Presidential Debate killed the debate, so instead we have these dueling town halls.
00:04:35.000 Again, an indicator of bias here.
00:04:37.000 Steve Scully was supposed to be the actual moderator in that debate.
00:04:41.000 Steve Scully of C-SPAN was supposed to be the moderator.
00:04:43.000 He was suspended from C-SPAN last night.
00:04:46.000 The reason that he was suspended is because he lied about his Twitter account being hacked.
00:04:50.000 You'll recall that the Washington Journal host went viral last week after a tweet sent from his account indicated that he'd reached out to Anthony Scaramucci for advice.
00:04:58.000 And then he claimed that he was hacked.
00:04:59.000 He had not, in fact, reached out to Anthony Scaramucci for advice.
00:05:01.000 It turns out that in the past, whenever he tweets something bad, he claims he is hacked.
00:05:06.000 I'll let Joy read on MSNBC.
00:05:08.000 Well now, the C-SPAN administration has decided to suspend him without pay.
00:05:14.000 Scully wrote, For several weeks, I was subjected to relentless criticism on social media and in conservative news outlets regarding my role as moderator for the second presidential debate, including attacks aimed directly at my family.
00:05:24.000 This culminated on Thursday, October 8th, when I heard President Trump go on national television twice and falsely attack me by name.
00:05:29.000 Out of frustration, I sent a brief tweet addressed to Anthony Scaramucci.
00:05:32.000 The next morning, when I saw the tweet had created a controversy, I falsely claimed my Twitter account had been hacked.
00:05:37.000 These were both errors in judgment for which I am totally responsible.
00:05:39.000 I apologize.
00:05:41.000 C-SPAN issued a statement revealing that the network and the Commission on Presidential Debates were made aware about Scully's fabrication on Wednesday.
00:05:47.000 They said, We are very saddened by this news and do not condone his actions.
00:05:50.000 Starting immediately, we have placed Steve on administrative leave.
00:05:53.000 After some distance from this episode, we believe in his ability to continue to contribute to C-SPAN.
00:05:57.000 President Trump immediately went on Twitter and tweeted about it.
00:06:00.000 Of course, he said, I was right again.
00:06:01.000 Steve Scully just admitted he was lying about his Twitter being hacked.
00:06:04.000 The debate was rigged.
00:06:06.000 He was suspended from C-SPAN indefinitely.
00:06:08.000 The Trump campaign was not treated fairly by the commission.
00:06:10.000 Did I show good instincts in being the first to know?
00:06:13.000 That is, it's so typically Trumpian.
00:06:15.000 I was the first.
00:06:16.000 I said it.
00:06:17.000 T'was I. OK, so Steve Scully was suspended.
00:06:20.000 And then in the lead up to the debate, We had input in which many members of the media were very angry that NBC would even allow some sort of town hall with the sitting president of the United States.
00:06:31.000 How dare NBC? 0.91
00:06:33.000 This was supposed to be Joe Biden's night.
00:06:35.000 It was Donald Trump who pulled out of that Zoom debate.
00:06:38.000 Now it turns out that Donald Trump was totally justified in pulling out of the Zoom debate because Donald Trump has been doing rallies.
00:06:42.000 Donald Trump is healthy now.
00:06:44.000 But it doesn't matter.
00:06:45.000 Members of the press were fighting mad.
00:06:47.000 How could NBC counter-program Joe Biden with Donald Trump?
00:06:50.000 I mean, Joe Biden's a good person and Donald Trump's a bad person.
00:06:54.000 We should never let NBC News ask tough questions of Donald Trump.
00:06:58.000 So it was pretty obvious where this was going from the outset, right?
00:07:00.000 As soon as NBC News started getting pressure, it was fairly obvious they were going to go to somebody like Savannah Guthrie and say, OK, we want you to grill the living hell out of Trump. 0.97
00:07:07.000 I mean, we want this guy well done.
00:07:09.000 The entire Hollywood infrastructure mobilized to tell NBC News how bad they were.
00:07:15.000 According to The Hollywood Reporter, J.J.
00:07:17.000 Abrams, Anna DuVernay, and Mariska Hargitay were among 100 top Hollywood players protesting at NBC's Trump Town Hall.
00:07:23.000 I noticed none of them decided to forfeit their pay from NBC if they work for NBC.
00:07:28.000 According to The Hollywood Reporter, The group wrote, Wow.
00:07:48.000 The list of heavyweights who signed the letter of protest includes JJ Avery, Abrams, Law & Order SVU star Mariska Hargitay, This Is Us creator Dan Fogelman, and Ava DuVernay.
00:08:00.000 You mean Hollywood celebrities don't like a thing that's happening so they wrote a letter?
00:08:00.000 Wow!
00:08:04.000 The stunning bravery!
00:08:06.000 Oh my goodness!
00:08:08.000 Speaking of stunning bravery, later on in the show we're going to deconstruct some culture because Demi Lovato has put out a piece of unbelievably Incomparably stunning bravery.
00:08:17.000 The amazing, stunning bravery of people in Hollywood to signal that they don't like Donald Trump.
00:08:20.000 I mean, my God, listen, the career risk it requires in Hollywood to say that you don't like the orange man bad.
00:08:26.000 My, these people should all be given congressional medals of honor.
00:08:29.000 These people, they're like the people who walked, who stormed the beaches of Normandy.
00:08:34.000 They wrote a letter to NBCUniversal saying that they're big mads and they have the sads about Donald Trump being on NBC answering questions from Savannah Guthrie.
00:08:42.000 Oh, the bravery.
00:08:44.000 Oh, the unbelievable courage.
00:08:47.000 Honestly, as an American, I'm just proud of them.
00:08:50.000 Fireworks going off, screeching eagle, blue angels.
00:08:53.000 Do it, man.
00:08:54.000 This is America.
00:08:55.000 And our Hollywood betters, they know that we should never, ever allow the sitting president of the United States to do a town hall on network news.
00:09:04.000 That's bad.
00:09:05.000 And again, risky stuff.
00:09:07.000 I mean, this is just like going up against Joe McCarthy in the 1950s.
00:09:10.000 This is this is what a moment.
00:09:13.000 What a big moment for Hollywood standing up against the throngs of people in their industry who love Donald Trump.
00:09:19.000 Frankly, I can't believe it.
00:09:21.000 I just I cannot believe the incredible, courageous bravery of stunningness and stunning, courageous bravery I'm seeing right now.
00:09:29.000 Oh, it's not a partisan issue, is it?
00:09:30.000 Because, uh, any of those people on that list, Republicans?
00:09:31.000 Like, any?
00:09:32.000 Any?
00:09:32.000 Like, one?
00:09:33.000 No?
00:09:33.000 NBC Universal News Group Chairman, Cesar Conde, told the executives, quote, you are enabling the president's bad behavior.
00:09:33.000 No?
00:09:33.000 Bueller?
00:09:38.000 They continued, this is not a partisan issue.
00:09:40.000 This is about the political health of our democracy.
00:09:43.000 Oh, it's not a partisan issue, is it?
00:09:45.000 Because any of those people on that list, Republicans?
00:09:48.000 Like any?
00:09:49.000 Like one?
00:09:50.000 Any?
00:09:51.000 No?
00:09:52.000 No?
00:09:53.000 Bueller?
00:09:53.000 Bueller?
00:09:54.000 The group includes such top NBC talent as Chris Maloney, and This Is Us star Sterling K. Brown, as well as heavyweights Aaron Sorkin, Greg Berlanti, Ryan Murphy, and Seth MacFarlane, Wow, with a list of diverse political people like that, I mean, that is clearly a bipartisan letter.
00:10:08.000 How dare NBC provide a forum for Donald Trump?
00:10:13.000 NBC provided a statement from Dr. H. Clifford Layton, clinical director of the National Institutes of Health, in which he said that he and Dr. Anthony Fauci had reviewed Trump's medical data and concluded with a high degree of confidence the president was not shedding infectious virus.
00:10:26.000 NBC had said it would not rely solely on Trump's doctor's word.
00:10:30.000 I love that.
00:10:31.000 That's true bravery.
00:10:31.000 was drafted, numerous current and former NBCUniversal staff members had expressed anger and disdain for the network's decision to schedule Trump's event at the same time as ABC's event with Biden.
00:10:40.000 I don't think many of us are proud of this moment, one current NBC exec told THR.
00:10:44.000 I love that.
00:10:45.000 That's true bravery, is that not only are you quoted opposing a thing about Donald Trump, you do so anonymously.
00:10:52.000 That's big bravery.
00:10:53.000 This is the opposite.
00:10:53.000 Wow.
00:10:55.000 NBC News could literally run this any other day or any other time.
00:10:57.000 Shameful.
00:10:58.000 organization is to serve the public.
00:10:58.000 Wow.
00:10:58.000 Amazing.
00:10:59.000 This is the opposite.
00:11:00.000 NBC News could literally run this any other day or any other time.
00:11:03.000 Shameful.
00:11:04.000 Former NBC anchor Katie Couric also tweeted, this is a bad decision.
00:11:08.000 Wow.
00:11:09.000 Amazing.
00:11:11.000 Amazing.
00:11:12.000 They wrote, we believe this kind of indifference to the norms and rules of our democracy are what have brought our country to this perilous state.
00:11:18.000 Okay, I'm just going to point out that if we're talking about indifference to the norms and rules of our democracy, you literally are backing a candidate who will not answer whether he pledges to kill the Supreme Court by packing it, kill the filibuster, pack the Senate with additional states.
00:11:32.000 You believe that constitutional freedoms ought to be overridden at the behest of a bare majority of social liberals.
00:11:38.000 So, um, yeah, don't don't lecture me on norms and decency when you're talking about whether the president should be able to answer questions on NBC News.
00:11:44.000 Come the hell on.
00:11:47.000 Absurdity, absurdity at the highest level.
00:11:48.000 But you know what?
00:11:49.000 Adam Scott signed this letter.
00:11:51.000 I mean, come on.
00:11:52.000 So did Billy Eichner.
00:11:53.000 I mean, if Billy Eichner signed a letter, if Billy, Billy Porter, I mean, St.
00:11:56.000 God, Billy Porter signed a letter.
00:11:58.000 The guy who appeared at the DNC.
00:12:01.000 It's nonpartisan, guys.
00:12:02.000 Super duper nonpartisan.
00:12:05.000 Well done, everybody.
00:12:06.000 I mean, Jon Hamm signed this letter.
00:12:08.000 I'm amazed.
00:12:09.000 Kumail Nanjiani signed this letter.
00:12:12.000 Patton Oswalt, the voice of the rat from Ratatouille, signed this letter.
00:12:16.000 If Seth Rogen signed this letter, a dude who hasn't been not high for more than 30 seconds in the past 25 years signed this letter, I'm on board.
00:12:25.000 I'm on board.
00:12:27.000 What a convincing show.
00:12:29.000 Alec Baldwin signed it.
00:12:30.000 Can you get more informed on politics than Alec Baldwin?
00:12:34.000 OK, so all of this was the lead up to the NBC News interview with Trump, which, of course, the ratings are coming in.
00:12:40.000 It would be a shock if Trump did not get better, bigger ratings than Joe Biden.
00:12:43.000 But that really doesn't matter.
00:12:44.000 All of this was the lead up to what the onus was going to be for Savannah Guthrie.
00:12:49.000 And the onus was going to be on her to be extremely mean to Trump.
00:12:54.000 It wasn't going to be an honest question-answer session.
00:12:56.000 It was going to be, so, Mr. Orange Man, how orange are you?
00:13:00.000 Orange Bad Man, how bad are you? 0.97
00:13:02.000 Orange Bad Fat Man, how fat are you?
00:13:05.000 And that was basically, that was in fact the tone and tenor of this entire thing.
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00:14:22.000 Okay, so all the pressure was on NBC News last night to be very, very mean to Trump.
00:14:26.000 And Trump predicted this, right?
00:14:27.000 Trump came out, it was perfectly obvious this is how it was gonna go.
00:14:30.000 Trump came out and he suggested that the only reason he was gonna do the town hall was because it represented a free hour of television.
00:14:37.000 And he said, I know I'm walking into basically an ambush.
00:14:41.000 He said that I'm doing this, So Trump knew exactly what this was going to be before he walked in.
00:14:52.000 And I will say that overall, I thought that Trump handled himself fairly decently.
00:14:57.000 His big problem is that Trump creates obstacles for himself that he then cannot overcome, right? 1.00
00:15:01.000 He retweets dumb crap, and then when he's asked about the dumb crap, he feels the necessity to double down on the dumb crap. 1.00
00:15:07.000 But was he really being asked serious questions? 1.00
00:15:09.000 I would say half of Savannah Guthrie's questions last night were about bad things Trump has tweeted.
00:15:15.000 And the other half were about why Trump is so bad on COVID.
00:15:17.000 So, Savannah Guthrie.
00:15:19.000 He allowed Joe to not only speak, but speak at length.
00:15:20.000 He asked him very non-difficult questions for Joe Biden.
00:15:23.000 to account from the Media Research Center, as opposed to Joe Biden, who was interviewed by a very friendly George Stephanopoulos, who basically got out the massage oils and went to work on Slow Joe. He allowed Joe to not only speak, but speak at length.
00:15:37.000 He asked him very non-difficult questions for Joe Biden, and he didn't interrupt him nearly at all.
00:15:43.000 That was not the tenor for Savannah Producer Colton was watching this in real time, and he was flipping back and forth.
00:15:48.000 He told me this morning that if you wanted to back the narrative that Trump has created and has pointed out about the media disparity, all you had to do was flip channels.
00:15:57.000 Because on one channel, you were watching Joe Biden have a cup of tea with George Stephanopoulos, former Clinton staffer, Stephanopoulos.
00:16:02.000 And on the other channel, you were watching Savannah Guthrie take out the old-style 1960s paddle and just whack Trump with it.
00:16:10.000 So here was Savannah Guthrie, who earned herself a spot in the Biden administration, and now the media are just reveling in this.
00:16:16.000 I mean, they love it because this was the mandate, right?
00:16:18.000 The mandate was she had to be mean to Trump, and she was mean to Trump.
00:16:21.000 So here is how Variety described Savannah Guthrie's performance, of course, because it's not about getting information to the American public. 0.91
00:16:27.000 It is about how the anchors perform under pressure to be mean to the bad orange man who is orange, bad, and fat. 0.71
00:16:33.000 Here is Variety, quote, President Trump wanted to run and ramble.
00:16:36.000 Savannah Guthrie wouldn't let him.
00:16:38.000 Now, let's just point out that Joe Biden has been running and rambling, running from cameras and rambling throughout this entire campaign, and the media have absolutely let him do it.
00:16:47.000 But according to Variety, it was Savannah Guthrie she pinned Trump down. 0.99
00:16:51.000 In what may be the performance of a career.
00:16:54.000 Okay, so first of all, the fact that we are now describing news anchors as performers is kind of gross, right?
00:16:59.000 Normally, when you have news anchors asking questions, it shouldn't be, oh, their performance.
00:17:03.000 It was like that quote performance of a career could describe both Glenn Close in the new Hillbilly Elegy trailer and also Savannah Guthrie in this town hall with Trump.
00:17:13.000 In what may be the performance of a career, the popular Today anchor kept a tight rein on the proceedings of a controversial town hall event in Miami with President Trump that put the network's parent, NBCUniversal, in the crosshairs of critics and Hollywood A-listers.
00:17:26.000 Many consumers have rebuked NBC for its decision to put Trump opposite a similar discussion his Democratic challenger Joe Biden had with ABC News and George Stephanopoulos at the same time.
00:17:35.000 Okay, so again, the left creates a controversy and then off the back of that controversy, they demand They demand that the NBC News anchors perform as brutally to Trump as possible.
00:17:49.000 For just under 60 minutes on NBC, Guthrie held Trump to account, asking him if he had in fact contracted pneumonia while infected, why he had a problem making a definitive dismissal of white supremacy, telling him he had no legal defense against the release of his much sought after tax returns, asking him to denounce conspiracy theories held by some of his backers.
00:18:06.000 I'm impressed with Guthrie's preparedness so far.
00:18:07.000 She's been ready for some of Trump's regular false claims, said Daniel Dale, the CNN fact-checking correspondent via Twitter.
00:18:11.000 and follow-ups.
00:18:12.000 Even close observers of the news industry and the current outrageous political cycle gave her kudos.
00:18:17.000 I'm impressed with Guthrie's preparedness so far.
00:18:19.000 She's been ready for some of Trump's regular false claims, said Daniel Dale, the CNN fact-checking correspondent via Twitter.
00:18:25.000 Daniel Dale has reached new levels of prominence because he does these sort of fact-checks where he takes everything that Trump says and then, like, down to the minutest of detail, fact-checks them while doing nothing similar to Joe Biden.
00:18:36.000 Daniel Dale has been a partisan actor.
00:18:38.000 He was for I think with the Toronto Star where he accused me of being responsible for a mass shooting.
00:18:42.000 So he is really a fact checking dude.
00:18:43.000 Daniel Dale.
00:18:45.000 Anyway, let's show you some of Savannah Guthrie, because the story last night was not Trump, right?
00:18:49.000 I thought, again, when Trump was asked an honest question and allowed to answer it, I thought he handled himself fairly decently.
00:18:54.000 The biggest problems for Trump were, once again, the man's Twitter finger is extremely, extremely fast, right?
00:19:01.000 He's got that hair trigger Twitter finger.
00:19:03.000 And he fires off these tweets without thinking about them.
00:19:05.000 And then he's asked about them.
00:19:06.000 And because Trump has no oops in his body, he decides that he is going to double down on them.
00:19:11.000 Those were the worst moments for him.
00:19:12.000 But the real story of the night was indeed Savannah Guthrie showing her journalistic bona fides by harassing the president. 0.98
00:19:18.000 OK, so here she was debating Trump on mask wearing.
00:19:20.000 And it really was a debate.
00:19:21.000 I mean, as the Trump-Pence campaign put out a statement, they said, President Trump masterfully handled Guthrie's attacks and interacted warmly and effectively with voters in the room.
00:19:29.000 Anyway, and President Trump soundly defeated NBC's Savannah Guthrie in her role as debate opponent and Joe Biden's surrogate.
00:19:35.000 President Trump masterfully handled Guthrie's attacks and interacted warmly and effectively with voters in the room.
00:19:39.000 Over on NBC, it was a completely different scene as once again, Biden was kept comfortable and away from any questions that might challenge him.
00:19:45.000 Americans can see that President Trump is leading the country, etc, etc, etc.
00:19:48.000 That's Tim Murtaugh, the Trump 2020 Communications Director.
00:19:51.000 Whatever you think of Trump's performance, the characterization of how the media treat the two candidates is obviously true.
00:19:56.000 You'll see the compare and contrast here.
00:19:58.000 Here's Savannah Guthrie debating Trump on mask wearing. 1.00
00:20:02.000 If everyone wore a mask, you could cut expected deaths in half.
00:20:06.000 Well, what does that mean?
00:20:06.000 60,000 lives.
00:20:07.000 If you look at Scott, Dr. Scott, he's from great guys, Stanford.
00:20:10.000 He will tell you that he disagrees with you.
00:20:14.000 He's not an infectious disease expert.
00:20:16.000 Oh, I don't know.
00:20:16.000 Look, he's an expert.
00:20:17.000 He's one of the great experts of the world.
00:20:18.000 But I don't get it because you have so much power and influence as president.
00:20:22.000 You could go to your, you could require it at your rallies.
00:20:26.000 Okay, so again, that is not Savannah Guthrie asking a question.
00:20:36.000 That is Savannah Guthrie talking over him and not allowing him to answer the question. 1.00
00:20:40.000 And by the way, there are a good number of doctors, including doctors for the Greater Barrington Declaration, which is now being basically suppressed by social media.
00:20:50.000 The Great Barrington Declaration essentially suggests that if you are young and healthy, then you should be pursuing Herd immunity. 0.66
00:20:56.000 If you're 20 years old, then you probably shouldn't be wearing a mask as long as you stay away from people who are older and vulnerable.
00:21:01.000 And when Trump says that there is still controversy over masking, there is controversy over masking.
00:21:04.000 In Northern Europe, a lot of countries don't mask.
00:21:06.000 Scandinavia does not mask.
00:21:09.000 That doesn't mean that we shouldn't mask when we're in close quarters, particularly with elderly and vulnerable people.
00:21:13.000 Again, I think that there's a fairly clear standard here.
00:21:16.000 If you're alone on a beach, you shouldn't mask.
00:21:17.000 I don't think that three-year-old children should be masking.
00:21:19.000 My son is going to school right now.
00:21:20.000 He is four.
00:21:21.000 They are making him wear a mask.
00:21:22.000 I think it's absurd. 0.98
00:21:23.000 I think that four-year-olds masking is ridiculous. 0.97
00:21:25.000 I don't think they can properly wear masks. 0.93
00:21:27.000 I think even if they do properly wear masks, they're not at grave risk from this virus.
00:21:30.000 I think if a four-year-old is in close coordination with a 65-year-old, that is a different story.
00:21:35.000 Okay, that is what the science tends to show, because again, if a four-year-old gets COVID, four-year-old is fine.
00:21:40.000 If a 65-year-old or a 70-year-old gets COVID, math changes.
00:21:44.000 With all of that said, that's Savannah Guthrie debating Trump. 1.00
00:21:46.000 That is not Savannah Guthrie asking Trump a question, okay?
00:21:49.000 And it was like this all night.
00:21:51.000 So she badgered him about voter fraud, right?
00:21:54.000 Trump has said that there could be widespread voter fraud.
00:21:56.000 And she said, well, no, no, no, there's no widespread voter fraud.
00:21:59.000 And he said, right, but there could be the possibility of widespread voter fraud, and we should be aware of that.
00:22:03.000 And she just was not having any of it.
00:22:06.000 There is, in fact, no evidence of widespread fraud, and you are sowing doubt about our democracy.
00:22:11.000 How can you say that?
00:22:12.000 How can you say that?
00:22:13.000 You do read newspapers.
00:22:15.000 I do.
00:22:15.000 You do watch the news.
00:22:16.000 Yes, I do.
00:22:16.000 I know you read the news, but you watch it.
00:22:18.000 I do.
00:22:18.000 Because every day they're talking about ballots that are corrupt, that are fraudulent.
00:22:24.000 And millions that are being processed right now.
00:22:27.000 But you can win a race.
00:22:28.000 Take a look at me.
00:22:29.000 You can win a race by 1%.
00:22:31.000 But why are you laying the groundwork for that right now?
00:22:33.000 I'm not.
00:22:34.000 It's like if I go play tennis with my husband and I say my ankle's hurting right now.
00:22:34.000 I don't want that to happen.
00:22:37.000 I don't want that to happen.
00:22:37.000 Do you know what?
00:22:39.000 Okay, well, what is she even talking about with tennis and her husband and her ankle and all this?
00:22:43.000 This was not a question, right?
00:22:44.000 She wasn't asking him a question and then letting him answer the question and then hitting him with a follow-up. 0.73
00:22:49.000 She was just lecturing him, which is what members of the media and Hollywood wanted her to do.
00:22:54.000 I thought the worst exchange for Guthrie was clearly on white supremacy.
00:22:57.000 Clearly. 0.90
00:22:57.000 So Democrats, the media, they've had this lie that they've been promoting for years, which is that Trump is actually a white supremacist. 0.90
00:23:03.000 Covertly, he's a white supremacist. 0.98
00:23:04.000 He likes white supremacists. 0.99
00:23:06.000 Okay, that is a lie.
00:23:08.000 Even in Charlottesville, where I harangued him for not being fast enough to condemn white supremacists on the first day, because he said there were many people there with many different views on the first day, and then he corrected it.
00:23:18.000 And then in that second statement, which happened on Saturday, he overtly said, when he was talking about quote-unquote good people, he said, I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis.
00:23:26.000 I'm not talking about the white supremacists who should be thoroughly condemned.
00:23:29.000 That is a direct quote. 0.87
00:23:30.000 Okay, that, or at least a very close paraphrase.
00:23:35.000 The media have never let go of this bone.
00:23:37.000 And so they have been asking him in every single interview to condemn white supremacy.
00:23:41.000 And he, in every single interview, does.
00:23:43.000 And then they go, right, but you won't.
00:23:44.000 And he's like, but I just did.
00:23:45.000 They're like, Bob, but you're not.
00:23:47.000 And he's like, but I, but I am.
00:23:48.000 They're like, yeah, but you're not right now.
00:23:49.000 And he's like, oh, but I am condemning it right now.
00:23:51.000 Like, ah, but when you said that, that was one second ago.
00:23:53.000 That's now in the past.
00:23:54.000 So will you do it right now?
00:23:55.000 He's like, absolutely.
00:23:56.000 I condemn white supremacy.
00:23:58.000 And they're like, yeah, but that was now three seconds ago when I'm asking you this question.
00:24:01.000 So I'm gonna need you to do it again right now.
00:24:02.000 Because every second that passes means that what you said is in the past.
00:24:06.000 So I don't believe you anymore.
00:24:07.000 What are you doing right now?
00:24:09.000 That's pretty much how this debate with Savannah Guthrie went.
00:24:11.000 It was pretty absurd.
00:24:12.000 We'll get to that in just one second.
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00:25:37.000 Okay, so the worst exchange for Guthrie, and this of course was one the media celebrated most, was Savannah Guthrie going after Trump on white supremacy. 1.00
00:25:44.000 Again, Trump has condemned this thing like 1,000 times.
00:25:47.000 And every exchange about white supremacy goes the same way.
00:25:49.000 Will you condemn white supremacy?
00:25:50.000 Sure.
00:25:51.000 Then do it.
00:25:52.000 I just did.
00:25:53.000 Do it now.
00:25:54.000 OK, I condemn white supremacy.
00:25:56.000 Why aren't you more enthusiastic about your condemnation?
00:25:58.000 OK, this is just this exchange was particularly bad.
00:26:01.000 Savannah Guthrie, of course, got kudos from the rest of the media. 1.00
00:26:04.000 She's her star is rising, guys, because remember, opposing Trump is stunning and brave.
00:26:09.000 So if you oppose Trump, it's stunning and brave.
00:26:10.000 And you're really risking everything, like possibly a giant raise or, you know, a move into like that 60 minutes rule.
00:26:16.000 I mean, these are serious career risks that you take when you are mean to President Trump.
00:26:20.000 Here is Savannah Guthrie asking Trump about white supremacy for the one millionth time.
00:26:25.000 I denounce white supremacy, okay?
00:26:27.000 You did two days later.
00:26:28.000 I've denounced white supremacy for years, but you always do it.
00:26:32.000 You always start off with a question.
00:26:33.000 You didn't ask Joe Biden whether or not he denounces Antifa.
00:26:37.000 I watched him on the same basic show with Lester Holt, and he was asking questions like Biden was a child.
00:26:43.000 Well, so this is a little bit of a judge.
00:26:46.000 Are you listening?
00:26:47.000 I denounce white supremacy.
00:26:49.000 Okay.
00:26:49.000 What's your next question?
00:26:51.000 I feel sometimes you're hesitant to do so, like you wait a bit.
00:26:53.000 Here's the thing, here we go again.
00:26:56.000 Every time, in fact my people came, I'm sure they'll ask you the white supremacy question.
00:27:00.000 I denounce white supremacy.
00:27:03.000 He, okay, that again, that exchange is amazing.
00:27:06.000 He's like, I denounce white supremacy.
00:27:07.000 She's like, but were you enthusiastic enough?
00:27:08.000 He's like, yeah, but I just did.
00:27:09.000 You know, you should, why won't my opponents condemn Antifa or Black Lives Matter?
00:27:13.000 They won't do that.
00:27:14.000 He's like, yeah, but you won't denounce white supremacy.
00:27:16.000 He's like, I literally just did.
00:27:17.000 I mean, this was Jordan Peterson and Kathy Newman. 0.75
00:27:20.000 You remember that Jordan Peterson, Kathy Newman interview where she was like, so you hate women? 1.00
00:27:24.000 He's like, no, I really don't.
00:27:26.000 I really don't.
00:27:27.000 I don't.
00:27:27.000 No, no.
00:27:28.000 And it was that, right?
00:27:32.000 Do you condemn white supremacy?
00:27:34.000 Sure, of course.
00:27:35.000 But how enthusiastically?
00:27:37.000 Are you gonna go out there and, like, help me hunt down the KKK?
00:27:41.000 And what do you think?
00:27:42.000 Donald, let's go out there and do it now!
00:27:43.000 You willing to do that?
00:27:44.000 Like, what are you... Okay, so.
00:27:47.000 Guthrie was bad.
00:27:49.000 That said, and Trump had some good moments.
00:27:51.000 I mean, there were people who asked him kind of funny questions.
00:27:53.000 One lady got up and told him he was very handsome, and you could see Trump glowing from the inside.
00:27:57.000 It was pretty wild.
00:27:58.000 But there were a couple of moments that were just bad for Trump.
00:28:01.000 And the reason they were bad for Trump, and these are the ones that will, of course, go viral, is because Trump makes trouble for himself on Twitter.
00:28:06.000 Twitter is very bad for Trump.
00:28:08.000 I know.
00:28:09.000 Everybody hates when I say this.
00:28:10.000 It happens to be true.
00:28:11.000 If Donald Trump had dropped his phone in a toilet on January 21st, 2017, he would be up in the polls by five points right now.
00:28:18.000 No one needs a window into Trump's mind.
00:28:20.000 It's kind of a crazy place.
00:28:22.000 And the fact that Trump tweets out crazy things and retweets crazy things, and then he's asked questions about them, and then his natural instinct is to defend the crazy thing that he tweeted, is not particularly a good look.
00:28:33.000 I mean, today, how bad is Twitter for Trump?
00:28:35.000 Today, Donald Trump went on Twitter.
00:28:36.000 There was a piece from our friends over at the Babylon Bee.
00:28:40.000 Okay, and this piece over at the Babylon Bee, so Twitter had an outage yesterday for like 90 minutes.
00:28:45.000 Twitter was just completely down.
00:28:47.000 And Trump and the Babylon Bee wrote a piece making fun of Twitter, right?
00:28:51.000 Saying that Twitter had shut down all of Twitter in order to stop Trump, right?
00:28:55.000 That is obviously making a joke about the fact that Twitter shut down this New York Post story in order to stop Trump, right?
00:29:02.000 That was the joke.
00:29:03.000 Trump immediately tweeted out that this was a real story.
00:29:08.000 Trump tweeted out that Twitter actually had done this.
00:29:14.000 that Big T, meaning Twitter, had done this.
00:29:17.000 Twitter shuts down entire network to slow spread of negative Biden news.
00:29:20.000 Wow, this has never been done in history.
00:29:22.000 This includes his really bad interview last night.
00:29:24.000 Why is Twitter doing this?
00:29:25.000 Bringing more attention to Sleepy Joe and Big T.
00:29:28.000 So what?
00:29:31.000 What?
00:29:32.000 He said that Big T was not a reference to me, it was rather a reference to Big Tech, which should have been properly pointed out in Twitter's fake trending section.
00:29:39.000 Does any of this help?
00:29:40.000 I mean, that is... So, that's just a dumb thing that Trump tweeted today. 0.98
00:29:44.000 Those kinds of things, they allow the media to avoid focusing in on Joe Biden, which is what Trump needs if he wishes to win. 0.99
00:29:50.000 So, Guthrie focused in on Trump's tweets, because this is the easiest way to do a negative interview with Trump, is to point out the fact that the guy tweets on the toilet all day long, and that he tweets some dumb things. 0.64
00:29:59.000 So here she was going after Trump on QAnon.
00:30:02.000 Do you think that Trump has great familiarity with QAnon?
00:30:04.000 Like, this is a pretty easy answer, is the truth. 1.00
00:30:06.000 He should just say QAnon's stupid. 1.00
00:30:07.000 This is garbage. 1.00
00:30:09.000 But Trump will never do that. 1.00
00:30:11.000 If the media prompt him to do a thing, he won't do it.
00:30:13.000 To understand Donald Trump as a human being, all you have to know is that he was told not to look directly into a solar eclipse.
00:30:18.000 So he took off his glasses and looked directly into a solar eclipse.
00:30:22.000 I remember the picture.
00:30:23.000 Everybody else was, they had the glasses on, so they didn't damage their eyes.
00:30:25.000 Trump's like, they're like, oh, look at me.
00:30:28.000 I'm Superman.
00:30:29.000 Check this out.
00:30:30.000 And he just looks directly, that is Trump.
00:30:33.000 So if the media tell him a thing, he will say precisely the opposite.
00:30:37.000 So if the media are like, President Trump, there's a rumor online that you built the moon out of cow farts.
00:30:44.000 You built it! 0.86
00:30:45.000 Like, you make the farts material and you built the moon out of cow farts.
00:30:48.000 There is that rumor going around online.
00:30:50.000 Will you condemn that rumor?
00:30:51.000 Trump's like, I don't believe you.
00:30:53.000 And maybe I did.
00:30:54.000 I don't know.
00:30:56.000 I'll have to investigate my people. 0.99
00:30:57.000 Okay, so that's what happened with QAnon last night.
00:30:59.000 This, of course, is gonna be the viral clip.
00:31:02.000 Stepping on rakes is not a good look.
00:31:04.000 This is not smart.
00:31:05.000 Now, again, Several things can be true at once.
00:31:07.000 Savannah Guthrie can be a horrifyingly partisan interviewer. 1.00
00:31:11.000 And also, Donald Trump should not have tweeted this stupid garbage and then defended it. 1.00
00:31:14.000 So here is Donald Trump defending, sort of, kind of QAnon, sort of. 1.00
00:31:18.000 Here is Trump going off on QAnon.
00:31:20.000 Which, by the way, is like eight people.
00:31:23.000 Disavow QAnon in its entirety?
00:31:26.000 I know nothing about QAnon.
00:31:28.000 I just told you.
00:31:29.000 I know very little.
00:31:29.000 You told me, but what you tell me doesn't necessarily make it fact.
00:31:33.000 I hate to say that.
00:31:34.000 Republican Senator Ben Sasse said, quote, QAnon is nuts, and real leaders call conspiracy theories conspiracy theories.
00:31:42.000 He may be right.
00:31:42.000 Why not just say it's crazy and not true?
00:31:44.000 He may be right.
00:31:45.000 I just don't know about QAnon.
00:31:47.000 You do know.
00:31:48.000 I don't know.
00:31:49.000 No, I don't know.
00:31:51.000 Okay, so he says he doesn't know, and it's probably true. 1.00
00:31:53.000 I mean, it's probably true.
00:31:54.000 He doesn't sit around actually reading the QAnon theories.
00:31:56.000 All Trump knows in politics is when people like you, then you just say nice things about them.
00:32:00.000 This is true from Kim Jong-un to Vladimir Putin.
00:32:02.000 This has been Trump's M.O.
00:32:04.000 forever.
00:32:04.000 If somebody says a nice thing about him, he immediately gives them the benefit of the doubt because everything is refracted through the prism of Trump's ego.
00:32:10.000 Every single thing in the world, this is his big problem as a person.
00:32:13.000 It's his big problem as a president.
00:32:15.000 Everything is refracted through the prism of his own ego.
00:32:17.000 It's true for Barack Obama too, it's just that Trump is much more gauche about it. 0.97
00:32:23.000 Same kind of thing yesterday, Trump retweeted a bizarre conspiracy theory about how Osama Bin Laden was not actually killed on Barack Obama's orders, and it was all staged, and crap like this.
00:32:35.000 So again, this provides an easy avenue of attack for Savannah Guthrie, who went after Trump on this. 0.77
00:32:42.000 Why would you send a lie like that to your followers?
00:32:45.000 You retweeted it!
00:32:45.000 That was a retweet.
00:32:47.000 That was an opinion of somebody, and that was a retweet.
00:32:51.000 I'll put it out there.
00:32:52.000 People can decide for themselves.
00:32:53.000 I don't get that.
00:32:54.000 You're the president.
00:32:54.000 You're not like someone's crazy uncle who can just retweet whatever.
00:32:57.000 No, no, no.
00:32:57.000 That was a retweet, and I do a lot of retweets, and frankly, because the media is so fake and so corrupt, If I didn't have social media, I don't call it Twitter, I call it social media, I wouldn't be able to get the word out.
00:33:11.000 And the word is... Okay, this defense is insufficient.
00:33:13.000 Okay, it's true that he uses Twitter to get a message out. 1.00
00:33:16.000 The messages he chooses to get out are very often stupid, so... 0.99
00:33:19.000 Savannah Guthrie doing her best to justify NBC News even holding this event by going after Trump on issues small and stupid and really avoiding some of the larger issues in the country right now. 0.99
00:33:30.000 Meanwhile, you flipped on over the channel and Joe Biden was just sitting out there on a Hawaiian beach sipping a cocktail with an umbrella in it. 0.98
00:33:37.000 Yeah, basically just lounging around, having somebody massages weird hairy leg or something.
00:33:44.000 That's what was going on over on the other news networks.
00:33:46.000 There's so much newsiness going on.
00:33:48.000 We'll get to that in just one second.
00:33:49.000 First, let us talk about the fact that right now, things are wild out there.
00:33:53.000 We got global pandemic, civil unrest, politicians who are threatening to infringe on your inalienable right to defend yourself.
00:33:59.000 Emotions are running very high in the country.
00:34:00.000 You see it on the news.
00:34:01.000 Peaceful protests turning violent, riots in the street, law enforcement not staffed to handle all emergencies.
00:34:06.000 More and more law-abiding Americans are buying guns, like right now.
00:34:08.000 In fact, you may be one of the millions who've recently purchased a gun for self-defense.
00:34:11.000 Now, here's the question.
00:34:13.000 Are you prepared?
00:34:13.000 Do you know how to use it?
00:34:14.000 Do you know under what circumstances you can legally use it?
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00:34:53.000 The entire news cycle over the last 48 hours has been about this Hunter Biden story, where it turns out that Hunter Biden was brokering influence in Ukraine.
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00:35:04.000 Okay, meanwhile, George Stephanopoulos over on ABC was giving Joe Biden a back rub.
00:35:09.000 The entire news cycle over the last 48 hours has been about this Hunter Biden story, where it turns out that Hunter Biden was brokering influence in Ukraine.
00:35:16.000 Not a single question from Stephanopoulos, not one.
00:35:19.000 We got questions about every other topic.
00:35:21.000 No real hard follow-ups, but not a single question about Hunter Biden.
00:35:24.000 No, no, no, don't worry.
00:35:25.000 The media are perfectly objective, guys.
00:35:27.000 Joe Biden was having the time of his life, man.
00:35:29.000 Things were just going fantastically.
00:35:32.000 Now, that doesn't mean that Joe Biden said many coherent things.
00:35:35.000 In fact, Joe Biden said many things that were quite bizarre, and some of them were quite radical.
00:35:39.000 He changed his positions on some pretty core issues.
00:35:42.000 So let's start with the bizarre and the radical.
00:35:45.000 So Joe Biden was specifically asked about police action. 0.99
00:35:48.000 He has said this stupid thing in the past and he said it again last night. 1.00
00:35:51.000 He suggested that we need to train the police to shoot people in the leg. 1.00
00:35:54.000 This is a talking point by morons. 1.00
00:35:56.000 This is a talking point for people who don't know anything about policing and don't know anything about guns. 1.00
00:36:01.000 This is not Gene Wilder in Blazing Saddles, guys.
00:36:04.000 I mean, first, honestly, if we're gonna do this, then really, they shouldn't even shoot the attacker in the leg.
00:36:08.000 What they should do is shoot the gun or weapon out of an attacker's hand. 0.99
00:36:13.000 They should shoot the trigger finger. 0.99
00:36:14.000 They should make it so that you can't pull the trigger finger, like in the movies. 0.97
00:36:17.000 This is what Joe Biden actually thinks.
00:36:18.000 Okay, so the way that law enforcement actually works is that in the heat of the moment, when you have just a split second to react, many of the shots go wild.
00:36:26.000 This is why you are taught to fire until the threat is neutralized.
00:36:29.000 You are taught to fire at center of body mass specifically because very often you cannot aim at a particular part of the body.
00:36:35.000 This comes from somebody who obviously has never really tried handling a handgun and certainly not in a pressure situation. 1.00
00:36:40.000 This idiotic notion that you can train police to shoot at limbs is the stupidest garbage ever put forth by people who talk about guns. 1.00
00:36:47.000 So here's Joe Biden. 1.00
00:36:49.000 He's done this multiple times, and it's amazing.
00:36:50.000 No one asks, where's the follow-up from George Stephanopoulos?
00:36:53.000 Why is it that not a single police department in America trains people to shoot at limbs?
00:36:57.000 Because you cannot do that.
00:36:58.000 It does not work. 1.00
00:37:00.000 Here is Joe Biden laying this forth because he's an idiot. 1.00
00:37:03.000 There's a lot of things we've learned, and it takes time, but we can do this. 1.00
00:37:07.000 You can ban chokeholds, you can... But beyond that, you have to teach people how to de-escalate circumstances.
00:37:15.000 De-escalate. 1.00
00:37:16.000 So instead of anybody coming at you and the first thing you do is shoot to kill, you shoot them in the leg. 1.00
00:37:21.000 Shoot them in the leg. 1.00
00:37:23.000 Shoot them in the leg. 1.00
00:37:23.000 Instead of shooting to kill, shoot them in the leg. 1.00
00:37:26.000 Uh-huh. 1.00
00:37:27.000 That's amazing.
00:37:28.000 I don't understand.
00:37:28.000 Why don't the cops take out a lightsaber and just, like, you know, melt the bullets that are being shot at them and then go over and disarm the person by, like, cutting off their arm like Luke Skywalker does or like Obi-Wan Kenobi or something?
00:37:41.000 In fact, why don't the cops just use Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth and actually just This is a presidential candidate who's supposed to be your serious presidential candidate. 1.00
00:37:54.000 Speaking of serious presidential candidates, Joe Biden was asked once again on court packing, once again, he declined to answer.
00:37:59.000 He was not pressed by George Stephanopoulos.
00:38:01.000 He said, don't worry, I'll tell you at some point.
00:38:03.000 At some point, you'll find out.
00:38:04.000 I mean, that point may never come, but sometime in the future, I mean, the future is full of murkiness and undecidedness.
00:38:11.000 So at some point, I'll probably tell you.
00:38:12.000 Here is Joe Biden not being asked a difficult question.
00:38:16.000 If they vote on it before the election?
00:38:17.000 That's a perfect day.
00:38:18.000 If they vote on it before the election, you are open to expanding the court?
00:38:22.000 I'm open to considering what happens from that point on.
00:38:26.000 You know, you've said so many times during the campaign, all through the course of your career, it's important to level with the American people.
00:38:32.000 It is, but George, if I say, no matter what answer I gave you, if I say it, that's the headline tomorrow.
00:38:38.000 It won't be about what's going on now, the improper way they're proceeding.
00:38:41.000 But don't voters have a right to know?
00:38:43.000 They do have a right to know where I stand, and they'll have a right to know where I stand before they vote.
00:38:48.000 So you'll come out with a clear position before election day?
00:38:50.000 Yes, depending on how they handle this.
00:38:52.000 Depending on how they handle this!
00:38:54.000 I love that!
00:38:54.000 Okay, so what should George Stephanopoulos' answer there be?
00:38:58.000 Clearly, if you were a journalist, or if you were going to Savannah Guthrie this thing, he would say, okay, why not right now?
00:39:02.000 Like, I'm looking at my watch here.
00:39:04.000 Joe.
00:39:05.000 And it turns out that today is, in fact, October 15th.
00:39:08.000 And the election is going to be held in approximately two and a half weeks.
00:39:12.000 So you're running out of time.
00:39:13.000 So why not do it, like, right now?
00:39:14.000 What's preventing you from doing it, like, right now?
00:39:17.000 And instead, Joe Biden's like, well, you know, I'm just not going to tell you.
00:39:19.000 You know, everything's good.
00:39:19.000 And George Stephanopoulos is like, OK, Joe.
00:39:21.000 All right, well, fair enough.
00:39:23.000 Not fair enough!
00:39:24.000 Oh man.
00:39:25.000 Okay, George Stephanopoulos, that's some harsh questioning right there.
00:39:28.000 It shows you the media standard for themselves.
00:39:30.000 The media standard is that if you are interviewing a Republican, you should act like Savannah Guthrie.
00:39:35.000 And if you're interviewing Joe Biden, you should act like a doormat.
00:39:38.000 That is the media double standard. 1.00
00:39:40.000 And again, that doesn't alleviate the fact that Trump handled some questions badly last night, and then he tweets dumb crap. 0.99
00:39:45.000 These are separate issues. 0.99
00:39:47.000 The media bias is very real.
00:39:48.000 There's a reason conservatives distrust the media.
00:39:50.000 There's a reason they distrust social media that continue to promote mainstream media.
00:39:54.000 OK, but back to Biden.
00:39:55.000 So Biden said many, many radical things last night.
00:39:59.000 He said yesterday that small children should be able to transition.
00:40:02.000 I know that we're just going to gloss over this thing, but this is insane.
00:40:05.000 This is insane.
00:40:05.000 So a mother of a child who believes that he is transgender, an 8-year-old, 8 years old, gets up and says, you know, Joe, what are you going to do for kids like mine, a boy who believes he's a girl, who believes he is transgender, and Joe Biden says we should allow 8-year-olds and 10-year-olds to transition.
00:40:23.000 Those are children.
00:40:23.000 So what he's talking about right now is allowing the treatment of a boy as a girl.
00:40:30.000 Not watchful waiting, but an eight-year-old says, I think I'm a girl today, and that kid is a boy.
00:40:35.000 And you say, okay, darling, and then you go out and buy, and you call them your daughter.
00:40:39.000 You literally start treating the boy as a girl.
00:40:42.000 This is not best medical practice.
00:40:43.000 There's not evidence to back that this is a good idea.
00:40:46.000 But this is the left propaganda, which is that you can identify as a member of the opposite sex, You can just pick your opposite sex at the age of eight.
00:40:54.000 At the age of eight.
00:40:56.000 Here's Joe Biden spilling this one out there.
00:40:57.000 And he's going to effectuate federal policy in order to make this clear.
00:41:01.000 So if you are a religious school, for example, then he is going to make it so that if a little boy comes in, and he now wants to identify as a little girl, and he wants to go to the girls' school.
00:41:10.000 Because in a lot of religious communities, you have a separate boys' school and a separate girls' school.
00:41:13.000 Mainly because once they hit teenage years, you want to keep those kids separated.
00:41:17.000 Okay, but they have separate boys' schools and separate girls' schools. 0.86
00:41:20.000 This is very traditional in the religious community.
00:41:21.000 It's very traditional in the Jewish community, Catholic community, Evangelical Protestant community, that Joe Biden will be the kind of person who believes that you should be able to take your boy and enlist that kid in the girls' school, and the school should simply deal with it.
00:41:35.000 Not only that, on a fundamental level, believing that an eight-year-old should be able to transition is madness.
00:41:40.000 It's absolute madness.
00:41:41.000 I have a six-year-old.
00:41:43.000 I would not let her choose how to cut her own hair, let alone how to shape her own sexual future. 1.00
00:41:49.000 That's insane. 0.89
00:41:53.000 It's crazy.
00:41:53.000 It's one thing you're talking about a 20-year-old.
00:41:55.000 It's another thing.
00:41:56.000 I mean, there are problems too, but if you're 20, at least you have the ability to think things through and consent.
00:42:01.000 If you're eight, you don't.
00:42:03.000 But here's Joe Biden yesterday, basically standing up for the ability of eight-year-olds to transition.
00:42:09.000 The idea that an eight-year-old child or a ten-year-old child decides, you know, I decided I want to be transgender.
00:42:16.000 That's what I think I'd like to be.
00:42:17.000 It may make my life a lot easier.
00:42:20.000 There should be zero discrimination.
00:42:23.000 There is no reason to suggest that there should be any right denied your daughter or daughters, whichever one or two, one, your daughter, that your other daughter has a right to be and do.
00:42:36.000 None.
00:42:37.000 Zero.
00:42:38.000 Okay, it's not discrimination to deny a boy access to a girl's locker room.
00:42:42.000 It is not discrimination to deny a boy, eight years old, the ability to hormonally transition.
00:42:47.000 The hell is he talking about?
00:42:49.000 That is radical stuff. 0.73
00:42:49.000 I know that the media portrays this as mainstream. 0.73
00:42:51.000 That is deeply radical.
00:42:53.000 And not only that, it will reach the point in American politics, in very, very short order, because you're already seeing the early indicators, where if you as a parent say no to this, the government will intervene.
00:43:04.000 And Joe Biden will back that.
00:43:06.000 If you have an 8-year-old and your 8-year-old goes to school, your 8-year-old boy goes to school, and he says to the teacher, I feel like a girl today.
00:43:11.000 And then, the next day, your 8-year-old boy goes to school and he tells the teacher, you know, I went home, I told mommy I feel like a girl, and mommy said, you're not a girl, you're a boy.
00:43:19.000 The teacher calls Child Protective Services.
00:43:22.000 Okay, we are this far from that.
00:43:23.000 You watch.
00:43:24.000 Within the next five years, this will become rote.
00:43:26.000 Okay, that is something that is incredibly dangerous to children, it's incredibly dangerous to families, it's incredibly dangerous to basic human reason.
00:43:35.000 What Joe Biden said there is radical.
00:43:37.000 It is radical and it is... To say an eight-year-old should be able to transition is pretty horrifying on every possible level. 0.97
00:43:44.000 But it's treated as totally, not only normal, but sympathetic and good.
00:43:47.000 Because eight-year-olds should be able to make their own decisions on everything, including what sex they are, in contravention of reality. 0.68
00:43:53.000 All right?
00:43:54.000 That is your moderate.
00:43:55.000 That is your moderate candidate, Joe Biden.
00:43:58.000 OK, then moderate Joe Biden also came out and he said that he wanted to encourage mask mandate.
00:44:03.000 He said he was asked about national mask mandates.
00:44:05.000 Now he has a problem.
00:44:07.000 He cannot legally mandate a mask from the top down.
00:44:10.000 You can't do that.
00:44:11.000 At the national government level, you don't have the authority to do that.
00:44:13.000 So we'll get to Joe Biden's answer on that in just one second.
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00:45:50.000 I'm worried about the kids who get this, the teenagers who get maligned as awful bigots, racists, xenophobes, transphobes, just for having an opinion that may not go with the mainstream now.
00:46:02.000 How the media shames people out of an honestly held or a religiously held opinion on controversial issues.
00:46:08.000 And it's going to get worse unless people speak up.
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00:46:57.000 Okay, so speaking of Joe Biden and his answers.
00:47:05.000 So he was asked about masking.
00:47:07.000 So Trump was asked about masking.
00:47:09.000 Why don't you mandate masks?
00:47:10.000 Why don't you recommend masks?
00:47:11.000 Joe Biden had said he would be in favor of a national mask mandate.
00:47:14.000 Then he realized that you can't legally do that.
00:47:16.000 So his solution is, I'm going to ask local mayors to tell people to mask.
00:47:19.000 Wow, well, if Joe Biden asks people, clearly they're going to do it.
00:47:22.000 Clearly, you're going to get local mayors down in the middle of Texas who are like, you know, Joe Biden called me.
00:47:26.000 I think I'm going to tell everybody that they are forced by law to mask now.
00:47:29.000 Here was Joe Biden last night.
00:47:31.000 You can't mandate a mask.
00:47:33.000 But you can say, you can go to every governor and get them all in a room, all 50 of them as president, and say, ask people to wear the mask.
00:47:41.000 Everybody knows.
00:47:43.000 And if they don't, fine.
00:47:43.000 And if they don't, no, not fine.
00:47:45.000 Then I go to every governor.
00:47:47.000 I go to every mayor.
00:47:48.000 I go to every councilman.
00:47:49.000 I go to every local official.
00:47:51.000 Say, mandate the mask.
00:47:54.000 Say, this is what you have to do when you're out.
00:47:56.000 Make sure you encourage it being done.
00:47:59.000 Wow.
00:47:59.000 Well, you know, that problem solved.
00:48:01.000 He's asking people to do a thing.
00:48:03.000 Incredible.
00:48:03.000 Incredible.
00:48:04.000 Also, he did change his position on taxes.
00:48:06.000 So finally, Joe Biden recognized that saying that he was going to repeal Trump's tax cuts raises your taxes, which, by the way, fact checkers had said was false.
00:48:13.000 Right.
00:48:13.000 They said that if you said that Trump, that Biden repealing tax cuts was going to raise your taxes, that that was fact check false.
00:48:19.000 It turns out it was fact-checked true.
00:48:20.000 How do we know?
00:48:21.000 Because now Biden is changing his position.
00:48:22.000 He says, I'm not going to repeal all of Trump's tax cuts.
00:48:24.000 I'm only going to repeal the tax cuts for the people who earn the most.
00:48:27.000 Here was Biden subtly changing his position, which nobody apparently finds newsworthy.
00:48:32.000 What is your plan for either extending the tax cuts for the middle class or creating a new plan that further reduces those taxes?
00:48:38.000 I carry this card with me.
00:48:40.000 When I said the Trump tax cuts, about $1.3 trillion of the $2 trillion in his tax cuts went to the top one-tenth of one percent.
00:48:50.000 That's what I'm talking about eliminating, not all the tax cuts that are out there.
00:48:55.000 Oh, is that?
00:48:56.000 Oh, because you've said that you're going to repeal the Trump tax cuts.
00:48:58.000 So now you're changing your position pretty publicly.
00:49:00.000 Okay, just putting that out there.
00:49:01.000 Apparently, that is all that matters.
00:49:04.000 Now he's changed his position, so I guess we're good now.
00:49:07.000 Finally, Joe Biden concluded by saying he's going to be a unifying president, which comes as kind of a shock to everybody who's watched Joe Biden across the course of his career.
00:49:15.000 A black voter asked him, so, you know, you keep saying things about race.
00:49:19.000 I'm just wondering if you have anything to appeal to black voters with other than you're not black if you don't vote for me.
00:49:24.000 And here was Biden's answer.
00:49:26.000 Unless we are able to treat people equally, we're just never going to meet our potential.
00:49:31.000 But I think the American people want to see that happen.
00:49:34.000 I think they're ready to see it happen.
00:49:36.000 And I'll tell you one thing, if I'm elected president, you will not hear me race-baiting, you'll not hear me dividing, you'll hear me trying to unify.
00:49:43.000 And unify with, bring people together.
00:49:46.000 When I said I was running because I wanted to unify the country, people said, well, they were the old days.
00:49:51.000 We better be able to do it again.
00:49:53.000 We're going to unify again, says Joe Biden, a man who said that Mitt Romney is going to put black people back in chains.
00:50:00.000 No one has been as unifying as Joe Biden over the course of his career, from criminal justice to now rejecting his own criminal justice in 1994, from suggesting that America is systemically racist to saying that you're not black if you don't vote for him.
00:50:12.000 No one has done racial unity quite like Joe Biden.
00:50:14.000 I mean, what a dude.
00:50:16.000 What a stellar, stellar dude, Joe Biden.
00:50:19.000 Okay, so that was the story of last night.
00:50:21.000 The story of last night was these contrasts.
00:50:24.000 Obviously, there are contrasts between Joe Biden and how he acts and how Donald Trump acts, and those were exacerbated last night by the media coverage.
00:50:34.000 But here's the thing.
00:50:34.000 No matter how the election goes, the media are going to be with us no matter how the election goes after the election.
00:50:39.000 And the mask is off.
00:50:41.000 The mask is completely off the media.
00:50:42.000 It is very obvious exactly where they stand.
00:50:44.000 They're being clear and obvious about it.
00:50:45.000 They recast their responsibility over the course of Trump's presidency.
00:50:48.000 They used to say that we were here to provide balance.
00:50:50.000 Then, they decided it was false balance to give any credibility at all to conservative claims.
00:50:55.000 That was false balance, you see, because conservatism is false.
00:50:58.000 Therefore, true balance is just butt wiping Liberalism while hammering conservatism.
00:51:06.000 That's real balance because the facts require you to yell at conservatives and to be super nice to liberals.
00:51:11.000 That's what facts require.
00:51:12.000 True balance is not false balance.
00:51:13.000 True balance is you ask hard questions to conservatives and you ask easy questions to liberals, and that's what the media are here to do.
00:51:20.000 To me, that's a bigger and more long-lasting issue than whatever happens in the upcoming election in early November.
00:51:26.000 Okay, so speaking of that, speaking of issues that are going to long outlast this election, We have to talk about the continuing fallout from this social media debacle.
00:51:34.000 So social media stepped in it over the last 48 hours in an unprecedented way.
00:51:38.000 They decided to ban the distribution of a New York Post story that they could not debunk.
00:51:42.000 So there was this New York Post story.
00:51:44.000 It was Hunter Biden's emails come out.
00:51:46.000 One of those emails suggests that Hunter Biden has brokered a meeting between a Burisma executive and Joe Biden.
00:51:50.000 Joe Biden's people originally say it was not officially on the calendar.
00:51:52.000 Then later they say, okay, maybe there was a little bit of a meeting.
00:51:56.000 That doesn't mean that Joe Biden shaped Ukraine policy in order to benefit his son, Hunter.
00:52:00.000 It does mean that Joe Biden has for years been looking the other way while members of his family trade off his name to make money, which is a tacit promise of some sort of corrupt relationship between Biden and the rest of his family.
00:52:13.000 Because if Biden were truly going to be the upstanding moral character that he purports to be, he would have said to his family, stop using my name in order to make money by promising access to me that I'm not going to give.
00:52:23.000 That's not a moral thing to do.
00:52:24.000 It may not be illegal for you to do what you're doing, but it is certainly corrupt.
00:52:29.000 So the media didn't like this story.
00:52:31.000 And so they decided to quash the story.
00:52:32.000 So Twitter put out a standard.
00:52:34.000 They said that we don't want to put out this story at all.
00:52:36.000 They blocked people from tweeting out the URL.
00:52:39.000 They blocked people's accounts if they did tweet out the URL.
00:52:42.000 And they said they were doing this to prevent unauthorized material from getting out there, which, by the way, is every single news story for the last 50, 60 years is an unauthorized leak.
00:52:51.000 Half of news is unauthorized leaks.
00:52:53.000 So it's fairly obvious what was going on.
00:52:55.000 And the Biden team used the Twitter ban as a point in favor of the falsity of the story.
00:53:01.000 So look at the circular reasoning here.
00:53:03.000 A story comes out from the New York Post.
00:53:05.000 The Biden team denies it.
00:53:07.000 On the basis of the Biden team denying it, purely on that, based on nothing else, Twitter and Facebook decide that they're going to restrict the distribution of the story.
00:53:15.000 Then the Biden team says, hey, look, Twitter and Facebook are restricting the story.
00:53:18.000 It must be false.
00:53:20.000 It's perfectly circular.
00:53:21.000 Biden says it's false.
00:53:22.000 Twitter follows Biden.
00:53:23.000 Biden follows Twitter.
00:53:24.000 It's unbelievable.
00:53:26.000 Here was a Biden press secretary yesterday saying Twitter censored it, so obviously it's false.
00:53:30.000 I think Twitter's response to the actual article itself makes clear that these purported allegations are false and they're not true.
00:53:41.000 And glad to see social media companies like Twitter taking responsibility to limit misinformation.
00:53:48.000 Oh, so now that Facebook and Twitter have declared it to not be worthy of distribution, it's false.
00:53:53.000 Now again, nobody's actually debunked any of the claims in the article.
00:53:57.000 Nobody.
00:53:58.000 And mainstream media have not done it.
00:53:59.000 They didn't wait to even have a fact check or look at it.
00:54:04.000 If, by the way, you think that Twitter and Facebook just killed the story on their own, I have some doubts.
00:54:10.000 I would love to see the call log between the heads of Facebook and Twitter and the Biden campaign.
00:54:14.000 You know that somebody at the Biden campaign called them up and they were like, this story's false, it's Russian disinformation, kill it.
00:54:20.000 You know that's how this went.
00:54:21.000 You know that it wasn't just Twitter and Facebook on their own saying, oh, well, you know what?
00:54:24.000 I think that we've got some problems with the story.
00:54:28.000 How bad are our media?
00:54:29.000 How truly awful are they at their jobs?
00:54:32.000 So, Jake Sherman.
00:54:33.000 Jake Sherman of Politico.
00:54:35.000 Politico's playbook.
00:54:36.000 He works for NBC News and MSNBC.
00:54:39.000 He issued an apology on Twitter for having tweeted the link.
00:54:43.000 I'm not kidding.
00:54:44.000 Now, a normal journalistic response to tweeting a link from a mainstream paper like the New York Post and then being banned for it or suspended for it is, what is this service doing?
00:54:52.000 Isn't this a crackdown on the free press?
00:54:53.000 I've been told that every time Trump says something nasty about the press, that he is violating the rights of the free press.
00:54:57.000 I keep hearing this over and over and over.
00:54:59.000 Here you have actual journalists being silenced on Twitter for tweeting out a link and the journalists go on bended knee and ask for forgiveness.
00:55:08.000 Jake Sherman tweeted this.
00:55:09.000 this. I tweeted a link to the New York Post story right after it dropped yesterday morning.
00:55:12.000 I immediately reached out to the Biden campaign to see if they had any answer.
00:55:15.000 I wish I had given the story a closer read before tweeting it. Twitter suspended me.
00:55:18.000 My goal is not to spread information.
00:55:21.000 My goal is to raise questions about the story, as I did in subsequent tweets, and see how the Biden campaign was going to respond.
00:55:26.000 They later did respond.
00:55:28.000 My account is clearly no longer suspended.
00:55:29.000 I deleted the tweet.
00:55:32.000 Journalists deserve all the scorn they receive.
00:55:34.000 Seriously, Jake Sherman is a top journalist.
00:55:37.000 He does some good reporting.
00:55:38.000 That's nuts.
00:55:39.000 He tweeted out a link to another story.
00:55:41.000 Twitter suspended his account, and he apologized for having tweeted the link.
00:55:46.000 Imagine if this had come from the Trump administration, that Jake Sherman had put out a piece of information, and the Trump administration had done something in retaliation.
00:55:54.000 That would be a violation of every First Amendment standard.
00:55:57.000 Now, I understand the government is not the same thing as Twitter or Facebook, but the fact that he is apologizing for it is the problem, right?
00:56:03.000 I'm not focusing in on the action so much as I am on the reaction.
00:56:07.000 You have social media actively telling journalists they cannot tweet links that Twitter and Facebook don't like.
00:56:11.000 And journalists going, oh, well, you know, if they say so, and if it was offensive to Biden, I guess I'm so sorry.
00:56:16.000 I'm so sorry.
00:56:16.000 I mean, this is a Maoist struggle session on Twitter.
00:56:19.000 And frankly, until he actually brings some form of animal sacrifice in penitence for what he has done here, I think it's completely insufficient.
00:56:26.000 Unless he does the work and does the reading, I think that Jake Sherman should not be let back into the good halls of society.
00:56:32.000 It's amazing stuff.
00:56:33.000 It's such a self-own by the social media companies because the only people who are out there defending the freedom of the social media companies were people with conservative slash libertarian leanings like me.
00:56:45.000 And you just cut out all the ground from under us.
00:56:48.000 Trump yesterday suggested that Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act should be rewritten to remove protections for companies like Twitter and Facebook.
00:56:56.000 Now, I've been a defender of Section 230.
00:56:58.000 Section 230 was originally written in order to allow people to moderate their comments.
00:57:01.000 The basic theory was this.
00:57:03.000 You had a comment section on a site like Daily Wire.
00:57:05.000 It was being...
00:57:06.000 Spammed with pornography, or it was being spammed with garbage or abuse, and now you could remove all of that content.
00:57:13.000 Because before, the idea was that if you remove that content, then you were responsible for all the content in your comment section, because you were editing it, and now you were legally liable in the same way as if I hire a writer over at Daily Wire.
00:57:22.000 Communications Decency Act Section 230 says no.
00:57:25.000 You're not responsible for your comment section, but you can curate the content so that you don't end up with a trash heap in your comment section.
00:57:31.000 We're not going to punish you for making your comment section less garbage-y.
00:57:35.000 This has been used by Twitter and by Facebook to curate content in a politically partisan way, most obviously this time.
00:57:42.000 Right?
00:57:42.000 Most obviously this time.
00:57:43.000 And that results in conservatives saying, okay, well then maybe we should change Section 230.
00:57:46.000 I don't think there's a legislative fix along that particular line.
00:57:49.000 But there is an attempt right now in Congress to curb Section 230 in one particular way that's not completely objectionable.
00:57:56.000 Here was Trump talking about Section 230.
00:57:59.000 He and his family are crooked, and they were caught. 0.91
00:58:02.000 They got caught.
00:58:02.000 Now they're being protected by Big Tech.
00:58:05.000 And if Big Tech persists in coordination with the mainstream media, we must immediately strip them of their Section 230 protection.
00:58:14.000 Okay?
00:58:14.000 It's very simple.
00:58:16.000 Okay, so the problem, of course, is that that gets rid of any open thread site, right?
00:58:20.000 It gets rid of Reddit, it gets rid of YouTube, it gets rid of our comment section.
00:58:23.000 We'll just take down our comment section.
00:58:24.000 If we become liable for what our commenters are saying, it bites into the fact that if you curate the comments, you either have a choice.
00:58:30.000 You can either curate or not curate.
00:58:32.000 Now, and if you curate, you're now responsible for the comments.
00:58:34.000 All commentary sections goes away.
00:58:36.000 This is the big problem.
00:58:37.000 There is one proposal that's on the table that seems a little bit better.
00:58:40.000 That is a proposal to change the standard in section 230.
00:58:43.000 So section 230 says, no provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable.
00:59:01.000 It's the otherwise objectionable phraseology that people are now looking to change.
00:59:04.000 Because that's a catch-all.
00:59:06.000 Right?
00:59:06.000 I think we all agree.
00:59:07.000 If somebody's posting porn in your comments, you should be able to remove it.
00:59:09.000 I think if somebody is posting stuff that is obviously racist, you should be able to remove it.
00:59:13.000 If somebody's harassing somebody in your comments section, you should be able to remove it.
00:59:16.000 But there is a case to be made that otherwise objectionable is too broad because it basically is a catch-all that allows you to act as a publisher by default, right?
00:59:26.000 That you're now editing your comment section to only allow commentary from NBC News.
00:59:30.000 Right, and so now you're basically responsible for, you're just a mirror of NBC News.
00:59:34.000 That is the argument.
00:59:35.000 And it's not a completely non-compelling argument.
00:59:38.000 I think there is also a case to strip liability protections for fraudulent implementation of your own policies.
00:59:45.000 So in other words, you take down a story, and you take down a story that's not in good faith.
00:59:50.000 It is possible there should be lawsuits launched on the basis of the in-good-faith standard.
00:59:54.000 Was this New York Post story restricted, quote-unquote, in good faith?
00:59:58.000 Was that done in good faith?
00:59:59.000 It's very difficult to see how that was done in good faith.
01:00:00.000 Maybe the New York Post has a lawsuit under Section 230, actually.
01:00:04.000 So we'll see how all of that plays out.
01:00:05.000 Bottom line is this, the social media companies just shot themselves directly in the foot.
01:00:09.000 Like, really, really in the foot.
01:00:11.000 Okay, so, it's time to do something that we haven't done in a while.
01:00:13.000 It's one of our most popular segments.
01:00:15.000 Last time we did this, we analyzed the glorious, Shakespearean, brilliant songwrap Which was about moisture states of genitals.
01:00:23.000 And it was a very important statement for feminists, is what we learned. 0.78
01:00:26.000 We learned that to criticize that song meant that you were in some way sexist, or that you were sexually starved in some way.
01:00:33.000 We learned many things, actually, in the course of analyzing that song.
01:00:36.000 Well, now...
01:00:38.000 We have another glorious piece of culture from the great artist Demi Lovato.
01:00:42.000 So Demi Lovato has put out a song.
01:00:44.000 The song is titled Commander in Chief.
01:00:47.000 How important is this song?
01:00:48.000 This song is so important.
01:00:51.000 So important.
01:00:53.000 These 26-year-old singers shared a screenshot on her Instagram stories of a comment she received after releasing the music video.
01:00:59.000 The comment read in part, I'm personally ashamed to be a Lovatic right now, but no matter how hard it is, I'm not letting this song change my feelings about you, especially after everything you've helped me with.
01:01:11.000 I really hope this doesn't ruin your career, Demetria.
01:01:14.000 Lovato shared her response.
01:01:16.000 In which she stated she had a right to her own political views.
01:01:18.000 Celebrities aren't just around to entertain people for our entire lives.
01:01:21.000 I mean, literally you're an entertainer, so actually that's the part we care about the most, to be honest with you.
01:01:25.000 Just like my plumber, I mostly care about his plumbing.
01:01:28.000 He has political views, I mostly care about the plumbing.
01:01:29.000 This isn't about that.
01:01:31.000 I literally don't care if this ruins my career.
01:01:33.000 This isn't about that.
01:01:35.000 My career isn't about that.
01:01:37.000 As much as I would like to be sad that I disappointed you, I'm too busy being bummed that you expect me, a queer Hispanic woman, to silence my views and beliefs in order to please my audience.
01:01:46.000 The stu...
01:01:48.000 Thank you.
01:01:49.000 I mentioned bravery earlier on the show.
01:01:51.000 The stunning, stunning bravery.
01:01:54.000 Both stunning and brave.
01:01:57.000 How could it be so stunning and so brave?
01:02:01.000 Frankly, sometimes you're just in awe at the bravery and the stunningness of the stunning bravery.
01:02:06.000 And this is one of those times.
01:02:08.000 A Hollywood starlet, a musical star in the Hollywood firmament, put out a song about how Trump is bad.
01:02:17.000 And she, I mean, guys, she doesn't care if it ruins her career. 1.00
01:02:21.000 The risk to her career is so grave right now.
01:02:23.000 I mean, I cannot think of a bigger career risk than being in an industry where literally everyone wishes that Trump were dead.
01:02:29.000 And you saying that you don't like Trump.
01:02:31.000 I cannot, like the career risk there is insane.
01:02:33.000 I cannot wait for Demi Lovato's next song, I Like Gay Marriage.
01:02:38.000 That's gonna be like, oh my God, the career risk in Hollywood saying that she likes gay marriage? 1.00
01:02:42.000 Wow!
01:02:43.000 How about her next, her album?
01:02:45.000 It should be called Racism is Bad.
01:02:47.000 And everybody would be like, oh my God, she said it!
01:02:49.000 Finally someone said it!
01:02:51.000 And the career risk, I mean my, If she says racism is bad, man, she is taking her career into her own hands.
01:02:59.000 Amazing, amazing stuff.
01:03:01.000 Like what, wait, hold up, hold up.
01:03:03.000 What if she sang a song and the song were, the Bible is wrong.
01:03:08.000 In Hollywood, wow, the blowback, the blowback.
01:03:11.000 But she said something even more controversial than any of those things. 1.00
01:03:14.000 Donald Trump is a mean, bad, orange man who's fat, orange, and mean. 0.99
01:03:17.000 And you are not allowed to say that in Hollywood. 0.99
01:03:20.000 I mean, if you talk about somebody who's really taking a risk, somebody who's really stepping out front, willing to take the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune in order to defend a belief system that is deeply unpopular with her peers, it is Demi Lovato in Hollywood saying that Donald Trump is a mean, bad man.
01:03:34.000 So she put out this song.
01:03:36.000 It is indeed spectacular.
01:03:39.000 I mean, it is somewhere.
01:03:40.000 I learned, by the way, I learned so many things during that WAP debacle.
01:03:44.000 I learned that people on the left don't understand basic humor. 0.94
01:03:47.000 So you could do like a full 10 minute segment, a laughing 10 minute segment about how dumb the song is. 0.72
01:03:52.000 And you can cynically analyze the medical conditions necessary to have to require a bucket and a mop.
01:03:59.000 And somehow people will take you seriously if it serves their purposes to do so.
01:04:03.000 So I feel like we should really take this as seriously as possible.
01:04:06.000 Okay, I'm going to try not to be sarcastic or caustic in any way when I analyze this song, Commander-in-Chief, because I've learned that people on the left have no sense of humor at all.
01:04:15.000 So we'll try to be deeply serious in our analysis of this.
01:04:18.000 I learned, by the way, during that WAP debacle, I learned that if you can kind of rhyme words that are super obscene, But not really rhyme them, but kind of come close, like in the general neighborhood where the vowels sound similar.
01:04:30.000 They're not even like the same vowels, but like kind of similar.
01:04:33.000 And if you can make a music video with liquid, with vaginal fluid flowing out the front door, literally flowing out the front door of a home. 0.91
01:04:44.000 If you do that, it's just like the Merry Wives of Windsor by Shakespeare.
01:04:49.000 This is what I learned.
01:04:50.000 I learned that this was like a cross between Shakespeare and Beethoven.
01:04:54.000 That's what I learned.
01:04:55.000 So, I mean, our standards have been set quite high here.
01:04:57.000 So we'll see if Demi Lovato can hit those standards.
01:04:59.000 Here is Demi Lovato warbling Commander-in-Chief, which I haven't, I'll be honest with you, I've only seen some of the lyrics.
01:05:06.000 I haven't actually listened to the song, but I can guarantee you that because it's so stunning and so brave, it is also artistically incredible.
01:05:12.000 Before I even listen to it, I know, I know that it is a piece of artistic genius.
01:05:17.000 I know that when we write the list of songs that aliens 1,000 years from now will look at when they try to discern the best of human civilization, this will be up there.
01:05:30.000 It will be like Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, it will be Hamlet, and it will be Demi Lovato's Commander-in-Chief.
01:05:36.000 I haven't even listened to it yet, but I know because of the bravery, because it is just so brave.
01:05:38.000 So here's some bravery being super brave, courageously courageous, stunning, go.
01:05:46.000 It's already great.
01:05:48.000 Nothing's happened yet, but it's already great.
01:05:49.000 Oh, close-ups of people.
01:05:51.000 Close-ups of diverse people.
01:05:58.000 That girl sounds just like Demi Lovato. 0.70
01:06:00.000 She's lip-syncing it.
01:06:00.000 Oh, I get it.
01:06:06.000 That's been affected and resented every story of spun and I'm a lucky one Wow, that old white guy sounds exactly like that Haven't they suffered enough he's wearing a mega hat too And here's a guy who apparently is Sikh. 0.92
01:06:21.000 And she's also Sikh.
01:06:22.000 They all have the same voice.
01:06:23.000 Oh, everybody's getting angry.
01:06:25.000 Everybody's very upset.
01:06:26.000 And praying for rain do you get a fun pain? We're not puns in your game. Oh, everybody's getting a great Honestly Everybody's very upset. I couldn't sleep seriously. Oh, well Do you even know that?
01:06:45.000 It's a bunch of close-ups, a moving close-up of very diverse people of various weights, genders, orientations, colors, all singing the same song, and lip-singing to Demi Lovato, because Demi Lovato is all of us.
01:06:56.000 All of us.
01:06:58.000 Be able to breathe.
01:07:00.000 Wow.
01:07:01.000 This is so moving.
01:07:03.000 I mean, you can tell whenever there's the meaningful piano chords underneath.
01:07:06.000 Like, imagine.
01:07:07.000 That's how you know people are super into it.
01:07:10.000 I will say that it is kind of weird when there are these, like, super masculine men singing in Demi Lovato's voice.
01:07:16.000 It's a little weird, but... But, I'm... But, it's...
01:07:22.000 The best part of this song is that it never exits a range of about five notes.
01:07:28.000 Oh! 0.60
01:07:29.000 Six notes.
01:07:31.000 Okay.
01:07:32.000 Everyone is so sad in this video.
01:07:35.000 But I get it.
01:07:36.000 I get why everybody is sad.
01:07:40.000 By the way, most diverse casting call of all time for this video.
01:07:43.000 So very exciting stuff, obviously.
01:07:45.000 And now we're back to original girl.
01:07:46.000 Okay, well, that was fun.
01:07:48.000 Oh, the camera's moving again.
01:07:48.000 I hope you enjoyed that.
01:07:50.000 Oh, and now we've reached the apotheosis.
01:07:53.000 Among the stars, Demi Lovato's singing.
01:07:56.000 Among the stars!
01:07:57.000 Everybody else is against a black background, but Demi Lovato is all of us.
01:07:59.000 She's like a godlike figure placed amongst the stars as we close in on her face.
01:08:05.000 She's also very upset, Demi Lovato.
01:08:07.000 It turns out that she was like Mr. Smith in the Matrix.
01:08:11.000 All the other figures were just representations of Mr. Smith.
01:08:14.000 The Matrix was everything, all the others were just fakes.
01:08:16.000 Here is the real human Demi Lovato.
01:08:20.000 Okay, I couldn't do it.
01:08:30.000 I'm sorry, I tried to stay serious, but this is self-parody.
01:08:35.000 So I'm going to read you the lyrics, because I was talking over some of them, and I think they deserve to be given their full poetic respect.
01:08:40.000 Here is, here are the lyrics, you ready?
01:08:42.000 Were you ever taught when you were young, if you mess with things selfishly, they're bound to come undone?
01:08:46.000 I'm not the only one that's been affected and resented every story you've spun.
01:08:49.000 And I'm a lucky one.
01:08:51.000 Cause there are people worse off that have suffered enough.
01:08:53.000 Haven't they suffered enough?
01:08:55.000 But you can't get enough of shutting down systems for personal gain, fighting fires with flayers and praying for rain.
01:09:01.000 Do you get off on pain?
01:09:03.000 We're not pawns in your game!
01:09:06.000 Commander-in-Chief, honestly, if I did the things you do, I couldn't sleep.
01:09:09.000 Seriously, do you even know the truth?
01:09:11.000 We're in a state of crisis.
01:09:12.000 People are dying while you line your pockets deep.
01:09:14.000 Commander-in-Chief, how does it feel to still be able to breathe?
01:09:19.000 Well, that changes everything.
01:09:21.000 Because what I got there is a compelling case that Donald Trump is a big meanie who does mean things.
01:09:26.000 And is really mean.
01:09:29.000 Mind blown.
01:09:33.000 She explained to CNN, we have to turn up and vote because it's so important our voices are heard.
01:09:37.000 And honestly, for me, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, just get out and vote.
01:09:40.000 No, I don't believe you.
01:09:42.000 I don't believe you.
01:09:43.000 I don't think you want Republicans voting.
01:09:46.000 She said that her inspiration for the song was this.
01:09:47.000 There's been so many times I've wanted to write the president a letter or sit down with him and ask these questions.
01:09:51.000 And then I thought, I don't really actually want to do that.
01:09:54.000 Yeah, I know, because you might get an answer.
01:09:56.000 And I thought one way I could do that is writing a song and releasing it for the whole world to hear.
01:09:59.000 Then he has to answer those questions to everyone and not just me.
01:10:03.000 Ugh.
01:10:04.000 Ugh.
01:10:05.000 By the way, this song was co-written with Julia Michaels, Justin Tranter, and Aaron Cannata.
01:10:08.000 This is one of the things that I love most about our current musical scene, is that it takes four writers for that.
01:10:13.000 Beethoven did all nine of his symphonies by himself.
01:10:16.000 Shakespeare did all of his plays by himself.
01:10:18.000 That took four writers. 0.71
01:10:21.000 Slow clap for the bravery and the stunningness.
01:10:22.000 Well done, Demi Lovato.
01:10:24.000 You've changed the world.
01:10:25.000 A groundbreaking piece of culture that put your entire career at risk.
01:10:30.000 Man, wow.
01:10:33.000 There are no more words.
01:10:35.000 There's only the heartache of knowing.
01:10:41.000 Okay, I know we're super long here, but I'm going to do something that actually is a bit of high culture.
01:10:46.000 It's called the Bible.
01:10:47.000 I know people on the left hate this.
01:10:49.000 On the far left.
01:10:50.000 There are people on the left who actually don't I hate the Bible, but we have now begun anew, the Book of Genesis.
01:10:55.000 So every year, the Jews, I know, Chris, Andrew Cuomo, turn off the show right now, Andrew Cuomo.
01:11:01.000 I said the Jews, turn it off. 1.00
01:11:03.000 You too, Bill de Blasio. 0.99
01:11:04.000 I know they're very scary. 0.98
01:11:05.000 I'm gonna talk some Jew. 1.00
01:11:06.000 Okay, so every year, the Jews, we repeat the cycle of the first five books of Moses. 0.98
01:11:12.000 So we started that anew this week.
01:11:14.000 The first part of the Book of Genesis is, of course, the Parsha of Bereshit, which is the creation of the world. 0.90
01:11:20.000 I wanna focus in, And what I think is the single most important story in human history.
01:11:25.000 I'm not talking about the story of Adam and Eve and the snake and the garden.
01:11:28.000 That one's real important.
01:11:28.000 But I'm talking about something else that is indicative of all human relations.
01:11:32.000 I'm talking about the story of Cain and Abel.
01:11:34.000 So we're gonna give it a bit of a close read right here.
01:11:36.000 Because I think that in order to understand anything that goes on with politics or human nature, you have to understand Human beings have not changed.
01:11:42.000 Human nature has not changed.
01:11:44.000 This is why when you see people on the left say things like, the Constitution was written in 1787, and then it was ratified in 1789.
01:11:51.000 Like, what does that have to do with us today?
01:11:52.000 Human nature didn't change.
01:11:54.000 Human nature has not changed for thousands of years.
01:11:56.000 There is an innate human nature.
01:11:57.000 That human nature tends towards sin.
01:12:00.000 It also tends toward the ability for greatness.
01:12:02.000 And that's the story of Cain and Abel in a nutshell.
01:12:05.000 So here is the story of Cain and Abel.
01:12:06.000 It's really short, and it's incredibly meaningful.
01:12:09.000 It is less than a chapter and it essentially ends, it's about 16 verses.
01:12:15.000 So here we go.
01:12:17.000 Now the man knew his wife at Eve, this is Adam, and she conceived and bore Cain. 0.92
01:12:20.000 And she said, I have acquired a man with the Lord.
01:12:22.000 And she continued to bear his brother Abel.
01:12:24.000 And Abel was a shepherd of flocks and Cain was a tiller of the soil.
01:12:28.000 So Cain is agriculturalist.
01:12:30.000 Okay, so already we are faced with two questions.
01:12:31.000 One, Cain seems like the good guy here, right?
01:12:33.000 Cain is the one who initiates the whole, I wanna bring of my fruit to sacrifice to God and express my gratitude.
01:12:36.000 It's Cain's idea, not Abel's.
01:12:38.000 And then God turns to Abel, not Cain.
01:12:39.000 So this brings the second question.
01:12:40.000 Okay, so already we are faced with two questions.
01:12:42.000 One, Cain seems like the good guy here, right?
01:12:45.000 Cain is the one who initiates the whole, I wanna bring of my fruit to sacrifice to God and express my gratitude.
01:12:50.000 It's Cain's idea, not Abel's.
01:12:52.000 And then God turns to Abel, not Cain.
01:12:54.000 So this brings the second question.
01:12:55.000 Why is Cain being ignored by God?
01:12:58.000 To Cain and his offering, he did not turn.
01:13:01.000 It annoyed Cain exceedingly.
01:13:02.000 His countenance fell.
01:13:03.000 And the Lord said to Cain, Why are you annoyed?
01:13:05.000 And why has your countenance fallen?
01:13:08.000 Is it not so that if you improve, it will be forgiven you?
01:13:10.000 If you do not improve, however, at the entrance, sin is lying, and to you is its longing, but you can rule over it.
01:13:15.000 There's a beautiful section in John Steinbeck's East of Eden that's all about this, right?
01:13:19.000 The word Timshal, that you can rule over it, that you have an evil inclination and your job as a human being is to learn to rule over that evil inclination.
01:13:27.000 So, people for thousands of years have talked about the question, why did God favor Abel over Cain in this particular scenario?
01:13:36.000 And it occurred to me reading it this year that God actually is not favoring Abel over Cain.
01:13:41.000 In accepting Abel's offering, it's not really that God is doing something nice for Abel while doing something cruel to Cain.
01:13:49.000 He's actually doing something nice to Cain.
01:13:50.000 He's offering him the opportunity to do what his parents could not.
01:13:54.000 He's offering him the ability to grow beyond himself.
01:13:57.000 He's offering him the ability to repent.
01:13:59.000 He's offering him the ability to get better.
01:14:02.000 God literally gives him a lecture.
01:14:04.000 And this is the divine speaking to humankind and saying to all human beings, sin lies at your door, but you can rise above it because you are better than this, because you have the capacity to change yourself.
01:14:13.000 You have the capacity to make your own life better by recognizing where you have failed and then working to rectify that breach.
01:14:21.000 It's an inspiring message.
01:14:23.000 But, Cain takes it exactly like most human beings take that message.
01:14:26.000 Which is, he gets angry at reality.
01:14:28.000 He's angry at reality.
01:14:30.000 And he takes that anger out on Abel.
01:14:32.000 Cain spoke to Abel, his brother.
01:14:34.000 We have no idea what they said.
01:14:36.000 It doesn't relate to conversation.
01:14:37.000 It came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel, his brother, and slew him.
01:14:42.000 And the Lord said to Cain, where is Abel, your brother?
01:14:44.000 Okay, so why is God playing hide and seek with Cain here?
01:14:46.000 God knows exactly what happened.
01:14:47.000 He's God, right?
01:14:48.000 He does the same thing with Adam.
01:14:49.000 It's really interesting, the parallelism.
01:14:51.000 After the sin in the garden, God says to Adam and Eve, what did you do?
01:14:55.000 He knows what they did, and they don't fess up.
01:14:57.000 Instead, Adam blames Eve, and Eve blames the snake, and so both of them are punished.
01:15:00.000 So God is now giving Cain the same opportunity.
01:15:03.000 He's saying, where is Abel, your brother?
01:15:04.000 And what he wants is for Cain to confess.
01:15:06.000 He wants Cain even now to repent after killing his brother.
01:15:09.000 He wants Cain to repent and improve, Every moment you have before you die is an opportunity to improve.
01:15:17.000 And Cain said, I do not know.
01:15:19.000 Am I my brother's keeper?
01:15:21.000 And God said, what have you done?
01:15:22.000 Hark, your brother's blood cries out to me from the earth, which is some of the most stirring language in all of the Bible.
01:15:27.000 And now you're cursed even more than the ground, which opened its mouth to take your brother's blood from your hand.
01:15:32.000 When you till the soil, it will not continue to give its strength to you.
01:15:34.000 You shall be a wanderer and an exile in the land. 1.00
01:15:38.000 Okay, and then Cain said to the Lord, is my iniquity too great to bear?
01:15:42.000 So here's the part of the story that people tend to ignore.
01:15:46.000 Cain gets the message.
01:15:48.000 Cain actually gets the message, right? 1.00
01:15:49.000 Because really he should die for having committed murder. 0.78
01:15:53.000 But Cain gets the message when he says, is my iniquity too great to bear?
01:15:57.000 He's acknowledging for the first time sin.
01:15:59.000 Adam never really acknowledged that he had sinned.
01:16:01.000 Eve never really acknowledged that she had sinned.
01:16:04.000 Cain acknowledges that he sins.
01:16:06.000 He uses, in Hebrew, it's... Avoni is my sin.
01:16:13.000 This is the first time in human history that somebody is acknowledging a sin.
01:16:18.000 He says, Behold, you're driving me off the face of the earth.
01:16:20.000 I shall be hidden from before you.
01:16:22.000 I will be a wanderer and an exile in the land. 0.98
01:16:24.000 It will be that whoever finds me will kill me. 0.53
01:16:26.000 Now, buried in that language is one particular phrase that, again, gets overlooked.
01:16:29.000 I shall be hidden from before you.
01:16:32.000 That before your face, I will be hidden.
01:16:36.000 Hey, what he's longing for is that connection with God anew.
01:16:39.000 This is Cain repenting.
01:16:41.000 So Cain actually does get... The story of Cain and Abel doesn't end with the killing.
01:16:45.000 It ends with human beings realizing we do have the capacity to repent.
01:16:48.000 And what does God do?
01:16:50.000 God forgives him.
01:16:51.000 He says, Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance will be wrought upon him at sevenfold.
01:16:55.000 And the Lord placed a mark on Cain that no one who find him slay him.
01:16:58.000 So now God has placed its explicit protection on a murderer because the murderer repented.
01:17:03.000 And Cain went forth from before the Lord.
01:17:05.000 He dwelt in the land of wanderers to the east of Eden.
01:17:07.000 Cain knew his wife.
01:17:08.000 And then you get the entire lineage of Cain.
01:17:11.000 And he goes and he creates cities, right?
01:17:13.000 His children create cities.
01:17:17.000 Now, what is the purpose of having that story in there?
01:17:19.000 The story is not really about Cain and his descendants because they really become irrelevant to the story of the Jewish people, which follows in the five books of Moses.
01:17:25.000 The story there is about humanity.
01:17:27.000 We all have the capacity to recognize our own sin and to get better.
01:17:30.000 We all have the capacity to recognize that we have done evil things and to repent.
01:17:34.000 We all have the obligation to recognize our own sinful nature and to work to move beyond it.
01:17:39.000 I've said before something that sounds very harsh. 0.97
01:17:42.000 For the vast majority of people, if your life sucks, 90% of it is probably your fault. 0.98
01:17:46.000 This is true for me. 0.99
01:17:47.000 It's true for everybody.
01:17:48.000 That doesn't... Not 100%.
01:17:49.000 People have circumstances.
01:17:50.000 And for some people...
01:17:52.000 90% of their life sucking is not their fault.
01:17:54.000 But for the vast majority of human beings, your choice and your fate is in your hands.
01:17:57.000 And that is the story of Cain and Abel.
01:17:59.000 If you let jealousy overcome you, if you fight against the reality, which is that you have a sinful nature, if you fight against the reality, which is sometimes life ain't gonna go your way, and you need to change and adapt to that reality, if you fight that, then you end up being condemned.
01:18:12.000 If, however, you get the message, Team Shawl, if you rise above it, then you become a better, a different human being worthy of God's protection.
01:18:19.000 Alrighty, I hope you have a wonderful weekend.
01:18:21.000 We'll be back here on Monday for more.
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