The Ben Shapiro Show - Easier For A Kamala To Pass Through The Eye Of A Needle | Ep. 705

00:00:00.000 Kamala Harris does her big town hall.

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00:01:35.000 All right, so it is obvious that the radical Democratic base has now taken over the entire party because there are no centrists left who are running for president in 2020 in the Democratic Party.

00:01:45.000 It's amazing to watch as members of the media label random members of the Democratic coalition centrists.

00:01:51.000 So they've been making the claim that Kamala Harris, the senator from California, is the new centrist.

00:01:55.000 She's a centrist voice as opposed to Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.

00:01:59.000 Now, the reason that they are saying that is because she had a history as a prosecutor.

00:02:03.000 So that means that, naturally, she is more centrist than a lot of the other Democratic members of the coalition.

00:02:10.000 The only problem is, she isn't.

00:02:12.000 And she served as a prosecutor because she felt that would be a gateway to higher office. 0.69

00:02:15.000 But the reality is that Kamala Harris is every bit the radical of Elizabeth Warren, or Bernie Sanders, or Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, or anybody else you think is the face of the radical Democratic Party.

00:02:26.000 Now, she's getting hit from the left today. 0.87

00:02:28.000 And the reason she's being hit from the left is, again, because of that prosecutorial career.

00:02:32.000 There's a clip going around of her speaking at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco.

00:02:37.000 Really nice group of folks.

00:02:38.000 And it's a clip of her back when she was Attorney General of the state of California, talking about how she used to prosecute the parents of kids who were truant.

00:02:47.000 Here's what she said.

00:02:48.000 She said, I believe a child going without without an education is tantamount to a crime.

00:02:52.000 So I decided I was going to start prosecuting parents for truancy.

00:02:55.000 Well, that was a little controversial in San Francisco.

00:02:57.000 And you can actually see her laughing in the tape.

00:02:59.000 She says, frankly, my staff went bananas.

00:03:01.000 They were very concerned at the time.

00:03:02.000 We didn't know at the time whether I was going to have an opponent in my reelection race.

00:03:05.000 I said, look, I'm done.

00:03:07.000 This is a serious issue.

00:03:08.000 I've got a little capital.

00:03:09.000 I'm going to spend some of it.

00:03:10.000 And this is what we did.

00:03:11.000 We recognized as a prosecutor in law enforcement, I have a huge stick.

00:03:14.000 The school system has a carrot.

00:03:16.000 Let's work in tandem around our collective objective and goal, which is to get those kids in school.

00:03:21.000 Well, the internet was going nuts over this last night because the suggestion is that Kamala Harris was going after parents of kids who were truant. 0.85

00:03:27.000 And really what you require is a social worker in these cases.

00:03:30.000 You don't require a police officer.

00:03:32.000 It's kind of fascinating to watch as the left resonates to Kamala Harris despite her record in this particular area. 0.98

00:03:39.000 It is also important to note that when she says something should be tantamount to a crime, you as Attorney General do not get to decide what is and is not a crime.

00:03:46.000 You do not get to decide that everything you don't like is now enforceable by the police.

00:03:51.000 If you do, that makes you a centralized government control tyrant.

00:03:55.000 And Kamala Harris does have those tendencies. 1.00

00:03:57.000 But all of that is being pushed to the side by the fact that Kamala Harris is an intersectional candidate.

00:04:02.000 She's female and she's black. 1.00

00:04:03.000 And that means that she must be a great, great candidate, even if she's spouting the same nonsense that all the other Democratic candidates are spouting ad nauseum.

00:04:12.000 So last night she did a town hall on CNN and it was just a wonderful example of CNN, again, playing host to a propaganda piece on behalf of a Democrat.

00:04:24.000 So she's in front of a group of people, probably, you know, 400, 500 people maybe.

00:04:28.000 And I love that CNN was like, she did this in Des Moines, Iowa, and CNN was touting this online, like, wow, look at the crowd Kamala Harris can draw. 0.99

00:04:37.000 Not to be self-centered here for a second.

00:04:40.000 I have not spoken to a crowd smaller than 500 people in probably three years.

00:04:44.000 And I'm not a senator from California.

00:04:46.000 So it's pretty amazing that people are now touting this as an example of her ability to get people out there.

00:04:52.000 I mean, CNN's broadcasting this thing live.

00:04:53.000 You think CNN is going to be interested in hosting an event that has a bunch of empty seats in the background?

00:04:58.000 In any case, she was asked a bunch of questions about policy, and she proved just how radical she is.

00:05:02.000 So she was specifically asked about private health care insurance.

00:05:05.000 So she is a proponent of Medicare for All, the Bernie Sanders plan that would cost $32 trillion over 10 years, it would double the size of the federal government, and it would also destroy the private sector.

00:05:16.000 Now, there are a lot of folks who say, well, you know, Medicare for All wouldn't destroy the private sector because health insurance would still continue to exist in the private sector.

00:05:24.000 But, according to Kamala Harris, she actually wants it to destroy private sector medical insurance. 1.00

00:05:30.000 She believes that everybody should be thrown onto government care.

00:05:33.000 That you shouldn't be able to buy private sector health insurance.

00:05:37.000 Because once the taxpayer is footing the bill for Medicare, Number one, there's not going to be a ton of money left over to pay for private health care insurance.

00:05:44.000 Two, most people are going to be getting their health care insurance through the government of the United States.

00:05:49.000 And three, if you have private health insurers competing with the federal government, that's not good for the federal government, because the federal government is then going to have its care rejected.

00:05:58.000 This is the great hole in a lot of these systems.

00:05:59.000 You can have supplemental health insurance in a lot of nationalized health care countries.

00:06:04.000 For example, in Canada, you can get supplemental health insurance, although it took a while for them to allow even that.

00:06:10.000 In Israel now, you can finally get supplemental health insurance.

00:06:12.000 In Australia, most people have private supplemental health care insurance.

00:06:16.000 Medicare for All in Australia is really just for basic care.

00:06:18.000 But for full proponents of Medicare for All, people who believe that the government should cover all costs, it's going to come down to rationing.

00:06:25.000 And it's going to come down to banning private healthcare insurance.

00:06:27.000 Because remember, let's say that there's a private healthcare insurer, Blue Cross Blue Shield or something, and that private healthcare insurer can offer doctors a better reimbursement rate than Medicare.

00:06:37.000 Well, who do you think the doctors are going to look to In order to get patients.

00:06:42.000 Are they going to look to Medicare?

00:06:43.000 Or are they going to look to the private healthcare insurers?

00:06:45.000 That's why many countries have outright banned private healthcare insurance.

00:06:48.000 They don't want to compete with the private sector.

00:06:51.000 They want to crowd the private sector out.

00:06:52.000 So Kamala Harris was asked specifically about this and she came down full scale on the side of nationalization of the healthcare system and full scale destruction of private health insurance. 1.00

00:07:01.000 Here is Kamala Harris doing just that. 0.99

00:07:03.000 I believe the solution, and I actually feel very strongly about this, is that we need to have Medicare for All.

00:07:08.000 And you don't have to go through the process of going through an insurance company, having them give you approval, going through the paperwork, all of the delay that may require.

00:07:16.000 Who of us has not had that situation where you've got to wait for approval and the doctor says, well, I don't know if your insurance company is going to cover this?

00:07:24.000 Let's eliminate all of that.

00:07:25.000 Let's move on.

00:07:27.000 So in other words, 95% of people in the United States have health care from their insurance company via their employer.

00:07:34.000 If you like your doctor, you will not be able to keep your doctor.

00:07:36.000 If you like your plan, you will not be able to keep your plan.

00:07:38.000 She wants to take all of those things directly from you. 0.99

00:07:40.000 I mean, this is a massive segment of the United States economy.

00:07:44.000 If you think that you're going to remove legitimately like a trillion dollars from American industry with no questions asked, and that people are going to be supremely happy when you take away their health plan, Then think again.

00:07:55.000 Now think about Obamacare. 0.96

00:07:56.000 Obamacare is a piece of crap legislation, but the thing about Obamacare is that Obamacare was purportedly about trying to help people in the individual market. 0.98

00:08:04.000 If you had your health insurance program through your employer, Obamacare theoretically did not touch it. 0.99

00:08:09.000 Now, that's not true.

00:08:10.000 Obamacare did regulate the insurance companies and make it nearly impossible for you to get the same level of care.

00:08:16.000 At the same cost as you did before.

00:08:18.000 It raised health care costs across the board.

00:08:20.000 But it was specifically driven by the needs in the individual market.

00:08:24.000 People who had lost their jobs and had a health problem and now couldn't get health insurance.

00:08:28.000 But it was not directed at destroying the entire system.

00:08:31.000 Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders, these are folks who want to destroy the entire system from the very center of the system. 0.94

00:08:36.000 They want your plan to be gone.

00:08:38.000 They want your doctor to be gone.

00:08:40.000 It was an amazing statement by Kamala Harris to just come out and say that part.

00:08:43.000 She said the quiet part out loud.

00:08:44.000 Now, everybody knows that that is where this is going, but everybody is pretending that that is not where this is going right now.

00:08:53.000 Here's what Kamala Harris actually said. 0.97

00:08:55.000 She said she felt very strongly about Medicare for All.

00:08:58.000 And then, when she was pressed by Jake Tapper, if that means eliminating private insurance, she said yes.

00:09:04.000 She said yes.

00:09:05.000 She said the idea is everyone gets access to medical care.

00:09:08.000 Okay, and then she said, let's just get rid of it.

00:09:11.000 So there's no, let's just be done with it.

00:09:13.000 Well, I'm glad that she can summarily dismiss 25% of the American economy right off the top. 1.00

00:09:18.000 And by the way, the part of the economy that also happens to generate all of the medical innovation, that also happens to generate all of the profit incentive for doctors to go into the industry in the first place.

00:09:28.000 Democrats are incredibly extreme on this stuff.

00:09:30.000 All Trump should do for the next two years if Kamala Harris is indeed the Democratic nominee is play the clip of her over and over and over again saying she's going to take away her health care program. 1.00

00:09:39.000 She's going to take away her health insurance. 1.00

00:09:41.000 Let's see how the elderly feel about that.

00:09:43.000 Let's see how you feel about that when she says she's taking away health insurance for your child so that you can work with a government bureaucrat. 1.00

00:09:48.000 I also love the suggestion by Kamala Harris there that the solution to all of your paperwork ills is the federal government.

00:09:56.000 Since when has that ever been true?

00:09:58.000 Has there been any area of American life in which your life has been made simpler by the federal government?

00:10:03.000 Like less paperwork?

00:10:05.000 I highly doubt it.

00:10:06.000 But that wasn't her only extreme statement of the night.

00:10:08.000 She was also asked specifically about guns.

00:10:10.000 And she said that we should basically ban all semi-automatic weapons in the United States.

00:10:14.000 There is no reason in a civil society that we have assault weapons around communities that can kill babies and police officers.

00:10:22.000 There is no reason why we cannot have reasonable gun safety laws in this country.

00:10:27.000 And guess what, guys?

00:10:28.000 Here's the reality of it, also.

00:10:30.000 We're not waiting for a good idea.

00:10:34.000 We have the good ideas.

00:10:35.000 An assault weapons ban.

00:10:36.000 Background checks.

00:10:38.000 Okay, so she then went on and she specifically said, you know what we should do?

00:10:44.000 We should force legislators to look at autopsy photos. 0.99

00:10:46.000 And this is the ugliest part of American politics right now.

00:10:50.000 The idea that if you disagree with Kamala Harris about her gun proposals, it's because you just don't care about the children.

00:10:56.000 If only you cared about the children, then you would agree with her.

00:10:59.000 That all semi-automatic weapons in the United States, when she says assault rifles, she means semi-automatic weapons, that all semi-automatic weapons in the United States ought to be banned or confiscated outright.

00:11:08.000 You are talking about hundreds of millions of weapons in the United States. 0.99

00:11:11.000 And she suggests that if I oppose her stupid policy, then that's because I don't care about dead kids. 1.00

00:11:16.000 Here she is doing this routine. 1.00

00:11:18.000 Twenty six and seven year old babies were massacred in Connecticut.

00:11:24.000 They failed to act.

00:11:26.000 Here's what I think.

00:11:28.000 I think that somebody should have required, and this is going to sound very harsh, I think somebody should have required all those members of Congress to go in a room, in a locked room, no press, no one, nobody else, and look at the autopsy photographs of those babies.

00:11:46.000 And then you vote your conscience.

00:11:49.000 Okay, so we're going to force them to look at the pictures Kamala Harris wants them to look at in order to get them to change their mind. 0.98

00:11:55.000 Okay, fine.

00:11:56.000 If she wants that to be the case, then how about this?

00:11:58.000 How about every Democrat in the United States Congress has to look at a picture of an aborted baby at 22 weeks, and then they can vote their conscience on free choice.

00:12:06.000 Then they can vote their conscience on whether it's okay to slaughter babies in the womb.

00:12:10.000 But people on the left would say, well, you know, that's an emotional appeal.

00:12:12.000 That's not a logical appeal.

00:12:13.000 Well, that's exactly what Kamala Harris is doing there with regard to slaughtered kids in classrooms. 1.00

00:12:18.000 The suggestion that I'm supposed to give up my rifle because something bad happened to kids not perpetrated by me.

00:12:26.000 By somebody I would have attempted to stop if I'd been there with my gun.

00:12:29.000 We'll get to more of the extremism of Kamala Harris in just a second.

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00:13:35.000 Kamala Harris making the case that we should ban all assault rifles in the country.

00:13:38.000 So far, we're going to ban private health insurance, and we're going to ban all semi-automatic weapons in the United States.

00:13:45.000 But that's not all from Kamala Harris.

00:13:47.000 She also continues by saying that we should basically ban all private vehicles in the United States.

00:13:52.000 She said she backs the Green New Deal.

00:13:54.000 This is the new, fresh thing among Democrats, is the Green New Deal. 0.78

00:13:59.000 Now, as you'll recall, the Green New Deal is this purported piece of legislation that would radically shift the nature of the American economy. 0.67

00:14:06.000 The idea is that within a decade, we would be completely carbon fuel free.

00:14:10.000 We would no longer be using gas.

00:14:11.000 We would no longer be using coal.

00:14:13.000 We would be carbon neutral.

00:14:14.000 And the idea here is that we would require a vast shifting of how the American economy works.

00:14:20.000 The cost on this Green New Deal, by the way, would be $18 trillion.

00:14:24.000 $18 trillion over the course of the next decade or so.

00:14:29.000 Sorry, I'm underestimating.

00:14:31.000 The Green New Deal, according to PJ Media Analysis, would cost $49 trillion in the first 10 years.

00:14:38.000 That's an amazing, amazing statement, but it doesn't matter.

00:14:41.000 The entire left has decided to resonate around all of this.

00:14:45.000 The Green New Deal would include a federal jobs program.

00:14:47.000 It would include getting rid, basically, of all private cars.

00:14:52.000 And here is Kamala Harris supporting it.

00:14:54.000 We've been hearing more about a Green New Deal to fight climate change.

00:14:58.000 You have yet to fully endorse or reject it.

00:15:01.000 Will you fully endorse the Green New Deal tonight?

00:15:04.000 I support a Green New Deal and I will tell you why. 0.83

00:15:09.000 Climate change is an existential threat to us and we have got to deal with the reality of it.

00:15:16.000 All children need to be able to breathe clean air and drink clean water.

00:15:19.000 We've got to have a commitment to a policy that will allow that to happen for ourselves and our children and our grandchildren and right now we don't.

00:15:26.000 That Green New Deal that she is endorsing right there requires cutting the United States military in half, ending 87% of U.S. 0.99

00:15:32.000 energy, and banning cars.

00:15:34.000 So that is the new program that she is supporting, Kamala Harris.

00:15:38.000 Very exciting stuff.

00:15:39.000 If you think that this is mainstream thought, it is inside the Democratic Party.

00:15:42.000 I mean, it's pretty astonishing.

00:15:44.000 It's pretty astonishing.

00:15:45.000 So, so far, ban guns, ban private health care, and ban cars.

00:15:50.000 But at least we know she's a moderate. 0.99

00:15:53.000 That's the really important thing, is at least we know that Kamala Harris is a big moderate, according to members of the Democratic Party. 0.99

00:15:59.000 Then, finally, Harris got to her prosecutorial record.

00:16:02.000 So as we say, she's pandering to the left. 1.00

00:16:04.000 She's just as left as Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.

00:16:06.000 And she was asked specifically about her prosecutorial record.

00:16:09.000 And this is where she's going to have a little bit of trouble with the radical left inside her own party. 1.00

00:16:12.000 I compare my record to any prosecutor, any elected prosecutor in this country, in terms of the work that I have done to reform the criminal justice system.

00:16:20.000 I am a daughter of parents who met when they were active in the civil rights movement.

00:16:25.000 Nobody had to teach me about the disparities in the criminal justice system.

00:16:29.000 I was born knowing what they are.

00:16:32.000 I made a conscious decision to become a prosecutor because I understood if we're going to reform systems, yes there is going to be the power that we have on the outside and also we need to have people on the inside where the decisions are being made.

00:16:46.000 By the way, the question she was asked was why she did not support a bill requiring her office to investigate fatal shootings involving police officers.

00:16:52.000 And her answer was, I'm black and that's why I became a prosecutor.

00:16:55.000 Which is not a good answer.

00:16:56.000 Okay, so she's gonna get flack from the left and from the right on her prosecutorial record. 1.00

00:17:00.000 The good news is that the flack from the left is only gonna last so long.

00:17:03.000 As the media focus on the question, which is to say, not long at all.

00:17:07.000 They're instead going to focus on the radical leftist policy she takes on, for example, border security. 1.00

00:17:12.000 So she was asked last night about her position on a border wall, and she said something so radical that most Democrats, I would think, disagree with it, which is that she will not be in favor of a border wall under any circumstances, even if it means guaranteeing the legal status of so-called dreamers who are already in the United States. 0.91

00:17:29.000 Let me be very clear.

00:17:30.000 I'm not going to vote for a wall under any circumstances.

00:17:32.000 And I do support border security.

00:17:34.000 And if we want to talk about that, let's do that.

00:17:36.000 And let's talk about what really accomplishes border security, which is let's upgrade the technology.

00:17:42.000 Let's look at the fact that the folks who are working on border security on the ground know that they need upgraded infrastructure around things like drones and they need cameras.

00:17:51.000 So yes, I'm all for increased border security where we need it.

00:17:54.000 I am not for a wall.

00:17:56.000 Okay, so she still can't explain what kind of border security she wants.

00:17:59.000 She has something about drones and cameras, but that really doesn't solve any of the question.

00:18:02.000 And saying that she would leave the Dreamers hanging, specifically to avoid Trump's program, is pretty amazing stuff. 0.99

00:18:08.000 There's an article in the New York Times today that does point out a serious flaw for Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:18:12.000 I've pointed out her prosecutorial record here a couple of times.

00:18:15.000 It is too right-wing for the left and too left-wing for the right.

00:18:18.000 Well, the New York Times has an article today talking about how that could really impact Kamala Harris' race with regard to black voters. 0.97

00:18:25.000 So the title of the piece is, Can Kamala Harris Repeat Obama's Success with Black Voters?

00:18:30.000 It's Complicated.

00:18:31.000 They say, Interviews with more than 30 black voters and political leaders in early primary states like South Carolina and her home state, California, show that Ms.

00:18:38.000 Harris faces challenges.

00:18:39.000 She'll have to persuade black activists skeptical of her record as a prosecutor, overcome sexism and a bias on the part of some voters that a female candidate cannot be President Trump, and work to gain broader support from black men, who generally express more wariness about Ms. 0.98

00:18:52.000 Harris in interviews than black women. 0.96

00:18:54.000 She would also need to win over left-leaning young black voters, some of whom were ultimately disenchanted by Mr. Obama's presidency and may value political ideology more than racial solidarity.

00:19:03.000 So she does have some problems in this race.

00:19:06.000 The good news is she may be able to pander her way out of it. 0.99

00:19:08.000 So the way she's going to pander her way out of it is by invoking stupidities like mansplaining. 1.00

00:19:12.000 She's going to explain that everyone who opposes her is just a sexist. 1.00

00:19:15.000 So she was asked about mansplaining last night in a typical left-wing question.

00:19:20.000 Here is the charisma-free Kamala Harris.

00:19:22.000 Given what occurred in 2016 and the current political climate, that a male nominee will have a better chance this time around than a female nominee.

00:19:33.000 Would you please respond to this so that this man has a response ready the next time a man tries to mansplain why a man would make a better nominee?

00:19:42.000 The people who vote, the people who live in this country are smarter than that.

00:19:45.000 They're going to make decisions based on who they believe is the best leader.

00:19:48.000 They're going to make decisions based on who they believe is speaking truth.

00:19:52.000 Who is doing it in a way that gives people dignity.

00:19:54.000 Doing it in a way that elevates public discourse as opposed to bringing us to the lowest common denominator and base instincts.

00:20:00.000 That's how the voters are going to vote.

00:20:02.000 And that is going to be the basis upon who will win.

00:20:04.000 You know that the question is really hard-hitting when the candidate stands up and applauds the question.

00:20:10.000 I love guys who ask women about mansplaining. 1.00

00:20:12.000 That guy, that's a real man's man right there.

00:20:14.000 That guy who asked her about mansplaining.

00:20:16.000 Solid, solid stuff.

00:20:17.000 So that's really exciting.

00:20:19.000 Kamala Harris was also asked about how she would stay on message debating President Trump.

00:20:23.000 Once again, her answer was less than inspiring.

00:20:26.000 Well, first, it's very important that anyone who presents themselves as a leader and wants to be a leader will speak like a leader.

00:20:36.000 And that means speaking with integrity.

00:20:39.000 It means speaking truth.

00:20:40.000 It means speaking in a way that expresses and indicates some level of interest and concern in people other than oneself.

00:20:55.000 Okay, honestly, I think that if she ends up being the candidate for the Democrats, I think Trump has a pretty good shot of beating her.

00:21:00.000 I'll explain why in just a second.

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00:22:19.000 Okay, so I'm looking at this tape of Kamala Harris last night on CNN.

00:22:23.000 And here's what I'm seeing.

00:22:25.000 I'm seeing a person who is radically pandering to the far left.

00:22:28.000 I'm seeing somebody who's struggling with her own record as a prosecutor.

00:22:31.000 And I'm seeing somebody who is giving platitudinous answers to obvious questions.

00:22:36.000 She's not really exciting, is the thing.

00:22:38.000 Barack Obama could do this because he was the first Barack Obama.

00:22:41.000 But you can't be the first Barack Obama if you're the second Barack Obama.

00:22:44.000 You just happen to be female. 1.00

00:22:45.000 There's nothing particularly exciting about Kamala Harris, and the media trying to manufacture excitement for her is pretty astonishing, honestly, because she is not an exciting candidate.

00:22:56.000 When you watch her, if you're on the left, you watch her and you go, wow, she is just, she blows me away, or does she feel a lot more like sort of a typical politician than something brand new and exciting?

00:23:06.000 There's no sizzle there.

00:23:08.000 You know, Donald Trump, if you've got a stage with Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, it looks a lot more like the stage of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton than it looks like Donald Trump versus Barack Obama, for example.

00:23:18.000 She's just not nearly as talented a politician as Barack Obama was.

00:23:21.000 I mean, few people are.

00:23:22.000 I mean, that's not a rip on her.

00:23:23.000 That's just a reality.

00:23:24.000 Barack Obama was a very talented politician.

00:23:27.000 She happens not to be.

00:23:28.000 She ran in a very safe state in California.

00:23:31.000 She was given her first lift in politics by a married man she was dating.

00:23:37.000 She's had a pretty easy ride to the position that she now occupies. 0.96

00:23:41.000 There's nothing about her that makes people stand up and cheer, really.

00:23:44.000 I mean, they're told they should cheer by the media.

00:23:46.000 They're told that they should cheer because we need a black female president, as opposed to just a black male president, we now need a black female president.

00:23:52.000 But, if you are progressive, are you more excited by her, or are you more excited by the full-on Marxism of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders?

00:24:00.000 If you are a millennial, are you really excited by Kamala Harris?

00:24:03.000 Does she strike you as somebody who is gonna make you get out there and pound on doors? 0.89

00:24:09.000 I don't think so.

00:24:10.000 And I think that she's also going to get Republicans out there to vote en masse. 0.98

00:24:14.000 I mean, she is saying openly that she is going to destroy the entire private health care system in the United States. 0.99

00:24:21.000 Now, when Elizabeth Warren says it, I guess that lefties get excited.

00:24:24.000 But when Kamala Harris says it, it just feels like she's a government bureaucrat who spends her entire life being a government bureaucrat and doesn't know what she's talking about.

00:24:32.000 So, I don't know.

00:24:33.000 I've got more questions about Kamala Harris's candidacy today than I had yesterday.

00:24:37.000 I know I'm shifting on this based on new evidence.

00:24:39.000 I was suggesting that she's the frontrunner.

00:24:40.000 And I think that, with all the media attention, she will leap to the front of the pack for a time. 0.94

00:24:45.000 But I'm not sure that lasts.

00:24:47.000 Because I don't think that she is particularly exciting.

00:24:49.000 Maybe I've got this totally wrong.

00:24:51.000 I just don't get that feeling from her.

00:24:53.000 Now, the way that you know the Democrats are a little bit panicked is by their reaction to Howard Schultz.

00:24:56.000 So Howard Schultz is the former Starbucks CEO.

00:25:00.000 And he is now talking about running for president of the United States.

00:25:03.000 He's talking about running, basically, as a middle-of-the-road Democrat.

00:25:06.000 And Democrats are panicked about this.

00:25:08.000 I mean, freaking out.

00:25:09.000 So, last night, he was doing a book event, and it was a town hall event, and some guy got up and started yelling at Howard Schultz about not running for president.

00:25:17.000 Please don't run for president, you're gonna keep Trump in the Oval Office.

00:25:21.000 I am seriously considering running for president as a centrist independent.

00:25:27.000 And I wanted to clarify the word independent, which I view merely as a designation on the ballot. 0.75

00:25:34.000 Don't help elect Trump, you egotistical billionaire!

00:25:41.000 Okay, so I love that people are really upset about this. 0.97

00:25:44.000 It's not just that random guy in the audience.

00:25:45.000 I mean, frankly, I don't understand what Cory Booker is doing out there in the audience shouting at him.

00:25:51.000 Don't help elect Trump!

00:25:53.000 But Democrats are so threatened by the possibility of a centrist Democrat running that they're getting up and shouting at Howard Schultz.

00:25:59.000 Now, the way to stop people from voting for Howard Schultz, if you're a Democrat, is to nominate somebody who isn't bat bleep crazy. 0.93

00:26:06.000 It's to nominate somebody who isn't pledging to destroy one quarter of the American economy.

00:26:10.000 How about you nominate somebody who doesn't pledge to remove guns from the hands of a hundred million people?

00:26:16.000 Why don't you start with that?

00:26:17.000 And if you nominated somebody who wasn't quite as nutty, then maybe you wouldn't have to worry about Howard Schultz.

00:26:22.000 But the fact is that Democrats in the base want their cake and they want to eat it too.

00:26:26.000 They want to be able to nominate somebody radical without alienating everybody in the middle.

00:26:31.000 This is why Michelle Goldberg over at the New York Times did a sheer panic today. 1.00

00:26:35.000 Michelle Goldberg has a piece today called Howard Schultz, please don't run for president. 0.99

00:26:45.000 A bid by an ex-chief of Starbucks would be reckless idiocy. 1.00

00:26:49.000 Why would it be any more idiotic than Elizabeth Warren running for president? 1.00

00:26:52.000 Well, because Howard Schultz is moderate. 1.00

00:26:55.000 So here's what Michelle Goldberg said.

00:26:56.000 She says, So, she's happy that he is associated with Starbucks because then they can boycott Starbucks.

00:26:59.000 Schultz is a genuinely successful businessman who built a company that's become part of the daily lives of people across America.

00:27:05.000 For this, those of us who are horrified by Trump's relentless grifting should be grateful.

00:27:09.000 It gives us something concrete to boycott should Schultz decide to launch a narcissistic spoiler campaign for president.

00:27:15.000 So she's happy that he is associated with Starbucks because then they can boycott Starbucks. 0.98

00:27:19.000 Worth noting, Michelle Goldberg is so dumb that she doesn't even recognize that he is the former Starbucks CEO. 0.99

00:27:26.000 He is no longer associated with Starbucks. 0.98

00:27:27.000 So she's going to boycott a company he's no longer involved in.

00:27:30.000 Brilliant.

00:27:32.000 But here's what Michelle Goldberg writes.

00:27:33.000 I mean, do they even have editors over at the New York Times anymore?

00:27:36.000 She says, he could end up helping get Donald Trump reelected.

00:27:40.000 Schultz appears to share the conviction, endemic among American elites, that the country hungers for a candidate who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative.

00:27:47.000 After all, if you're rich, you probably know a lot of people like this.

00:27:50.000 I'm socially liberal, fiscally conservative centrist, who would love to vote for a rational Democrat and get Trump out of the White House.

00:27:55.000 A chief executive of a major bank who wanted to remain anonymous recently told Politico, lamenting Michael Bloomberg's poor odds in a Democratic primary.

00:28:02.000 But this frustrated executive's politics aren't widely shared by people who haven't been to Davos.

00:28:07.000 In a 2017 study, the political scientist Lee Druttman plotted the 2016 electorate along two axes, one dealing with social issues and identity, the other with economics and trade.

00:28:17.000 Only 3.8% of voters fell into the socially liberal, economically conservative quadrant.

00:28:23.000 So then, here's the question, what is Michelle Goldberg so scared of?

00:28:26.000 Why is she so scared?

00:28:28.000 Like, what's she worried about?

00:28:29.000 If nobody in the Democratic Party is going to vote for this guy, then what is she worried about?

00:28:32.000 Is she worried about What's her face?

00:28:35.000 Marianne Williamson, who announced she's going to run for president? 0.98

00:28:38.000 Is she worried about Marianne Williamson?

00:28:40.000 Why isn't there a column in the New York Times about the kooky yoga instructors who are going to vote for Marianne Williamson?

00:28:45.000 The answer is nobody knows who she is and she's not going to win any votes. 0.98

00:28:48.000 So if there's no constituency for Howard Schultz, why is Michelle Goldberg all upset about his possible candidacy?

00:28:56.000 So here's what she says.

00:28:57.000 says she says bloomberg's research underscores the folly of schultz's trial balloon on monday bloomberg who is contemplating a 2020 run as a democrat put out a statement that seemed aimed at schultz though it didn't mention him by name in 2020 the great likelihood is that an independent would just split the anti-trump vote and end up re-electing the president wrote bloomberg that's a risk i refuse to run in 2016 and we can't afford to run it now by flirting with such a risk schultz is demonstrating a level of megalomaniacal recklessness that is itself disqualifying

00:29:24.000 So the fact that Schultz thinks maybe I should run or raise because there's a bunch of people who don't like either party, that's megalomaniacal now.

00:29:31.000 So you can't have it both ways.

00:29:33.000 Either no one's going to vote for him, so why are you worried?

00:29:35.000 Or everyone's going to vote for him, so maybe he should run.

00:29:38.000 But Michelle Goldberg and many in the Democratic Party want it both ways. 0.63

00:29:41.000 They know they're too radical for the American people, and it freaks them out that somebody might be running a third-party candidacy that could damage a beloved candidate like Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris or Bernie Sanders.

00:29:52.000 Okay, in just a second, I want to get to more of Howard Schultz's program and why Democrats should feel threatened by it.

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00:32:04.000 So Democrats are in a full scale state of panic over Howard Schultz, and he's actually building out a team.

00:32:15.000 He has now hired ex-Obama aide Bill Burton as a communications advisor.

00:32:18.000 As the former Starbucks CEO, Mull's running for president in 2020, he's adding people on both the right and the left to his campaign.

00:32:26.000 Burton is looking to bring on other public relations representatives in order to promote Schultz's story of being raised in Brooklyn, New York to becoming a prominent executive in the business industry.

00:32:35.000 The addition of Burton could potentially boost Schultz's elite PR team, which already includes Steve Schmidt, who used to be a vice chairman at Edelman and managed John McCain's presidential campaign.

00:32:44.000 So this could be a true quote-unquote centrist campaign.

00:32:47.000 Now, what's fascinating is that the left feels that they have not adequately served their base.

00:32:51.000 You're not seeing a lot of people who are Trump fans who are deeply worried about Howard Schultz's campaign, about Schultz playing spoiler.

00:32:57.000 Why?

00:32:57.000 Well, because conservatives are pretty conservative and Bloomberg and Schultz is not conservative enough For them.

00:33:03.000 But folks on the left feel that they have sort of had to put one leg on each stilt.

00:33:09.000 They've got one leg on the more moderate stilt.

00:33:11.000 And they've got one leg on the radical stilt.

00:33:13.000 And the radical stilt is moving away from the other stilt very quickly.

00:33:17.000 And that means pretty soon they're going to lose their balance.

00:33:18.000 Opening a way for a third party candidate to win maybe 15-20% of the vote.

00:33:21.000 So Trump could then win 43-44% of the vote.

00:33:23.000 Howard Schultz picks up 15% of the vote.

00:33:24.000 43, 44% of the vote.

00:33:26.000 Howard Schultz picks up 15% of the vote, and the Democrat loses the race.

00:33:30.000 That is what they are worried about right now.

00:33:32.000 And they should worry about that. 0.95

00:33:33.000 Again, the solution would be not to be radical, crazy people. 0.92

00:33:36.000 But they can't do that because it turns out they're radical, crazy people, so they're not going to do that.

00:33:41.000 So, Howard Schultz, if you look at what he's been saying, a lot of it is true.

00:33:45.000 And a lot of it, I think, appeals to people in the center.

00:33:47.000 So, for example, he was specifically asked about Democratic health care plans.

00:33:50.000 Now, you already saw earlier in the program, Senator Kamala Harris talking about how she wants to do away with all private health insurance in the United States of America. 0.85

00:33:58.000 An insane position.

00:33:59.000 An insane position that will end with massive numbers of doctors going into concierge cash for payment.

00:34:04.000 That will end with hospitals going bankrupt.

00:34:07.000 That will end with people getting poorer care and ration care.

00:34:10.000 Here's Howard Schultz talking about how these health care plans, they're just not realistic.

00:34:13.000 Every American deserves the right to have access to quality health care.

00:34:22.000 But what the Democrats are proposing is something that is as false as the wall.

00:34:28.000 And that is free health care for all, which the country cannot afford.

00:34:33.000 Okay, and that, of course, is exactly true.

00:34:36.000 The country cannot afford, quote-unquote, free healthcare for all.

00:34:38.000 There's no system on planet Earth that makes healthcare affordable, universal, and quality.

00:34:44.000 There's no way to do it.

00:34:46.000 And when I say affordable, universal, and quality, I mean that if you want the best in choice, you're going to have to have a free market system.

00:34:52.000 Now, the best system that is available, if you're going to look just at the efficacy of a healthcare system, is probably Switzerland's system.

00:34:57.000 There you have what is essentially a massive individual mandate where you are forced to pay for health insurance yourself from your own pocket to a certain percentage of your income, and then the government may supplement the rest if you can't actually afford health care insurance.

00:35:10.000 But it's still largely private, meaning there are private health care services in Switzerland.

00:35:15.000 In France, most of the hospitals are still private.

00:35:18.000 Most of the care is still private.

00:35:19.000 It's just there's heavy government subsidization of private care.

00:35:22.000 When Kamala Harris talks about a full takeover of the government industry, She's talking about something that looks more like the UK or Canada, and that is a radical shift from what we have in the United States.

00:35:32.000 By the way, the French healthcare system, which looks a lot more like the United States' healthcare system, actually, than it looks like Canada or the UK.

00:35:38.000 Even the French healthcare system right now is experiencing massive shortages of doctors in the very near future, because it turns out that when government pays reimbursement rates, those reimbursement rates are not high enough to keep doctors in the industry.

00:35:50.000 In other words, when it comes to healthcare policy, if you actually want the best, what you need is a free market.

00:35:55.000 If you want universality, you need some sort of safety net.

00:35:58.000 In the United States, we have Medicaid, we have Medicare.

00:36:01.000 These are safety nets that exist on the governmental level.

00:36:03.000 I would prefer that most of the social safety net be devolved to the local level, and that communities be responsible for picking up the slack for people who are members of those communities, as opposed to these massive federal programs.

00:36:15.000 But, Nobody in the United States is really very much in favor of the abolition of everyone's health insurance programs.

00:36:21.000 When Schultz says, we can't afford this, when Schultz says it's gonna bankrupt the country, he's exactly right about that.

00:36:26.000 He's exactly right.

00:36:28.000 And the fact is, again, the United States' health problems, health problems in the United States don't match up to Norway.

00:36:34.000 Like, the people in the United States are not the same as the people in Norway.

00:36:37.000 You can't compare the two, in terms of health problems, in terms of diversity, in terms of age, in terms of income, it's just not comparable.

00:36:44.000 But I love that Democrats have this one-size-fits-all solution that most Americans don't like.

00:36:48.000 So Schultz is more moderate on this, and it's a reason why Democrats feel threatened by him.

00:36:52.000 And then there's Howard Schultz on the debt.

00:36:53.000 So here is Schultz talking about a problem that no one wants to talk about, the fact that we have $21 trillion in debt in the United States economy right now.

00:37:01.000 I think the greatest threat domestically to the country is this $21 trillion debt hanging over the cloud of America and future generations.

00:37:10.000 And the fact that interest rates are going up, we're going to be paying close to over $400 billion in interest expense, which I think is the number one or number two issue in terms of federal expense to the country.

00:37:22.000 The only way we're going to get out of that is we've got to grow the economy, in my view, 4% or greater, and then we have to go after entitlements.

00:37:30.000 Okay, all of that is 100% true.

00:37:32.000 And what he's saying there is more conservative than what Donald Trump has said on the issue.

00:37:35.000 Trump himself said he didn't want to touch entitlements.

00:37:38.000 You need to touch entitlements.

00:37:39.000 You know, honestly, if Howard Schultz runs as an independent on this platform, It's doubtful a lot of Republicans are going to break with Trump just because Trump is such a polarizing figure.

00:37:49.000 You either love him or you hate him at this point.

00:37:50.000 But are there middle-of-the-road Democrats who will break for Howard Schultz?

00:37:53.000 I think there are and I think that's why these people are scared to death of him.

00:37:56.000 I think they are scared to death that Michael Bloomberg or Howard Schultz runs and that Howard Schultz wins 15-20% of the vote.

00:38:02.000 They are scared to death.

00:38:03.000 They don't have anyone electrifying who is currently running.

00:38:06.000 They need somebody who's going to win 50% of the vote.

00:38:08.000 And the possibility of a serious third-party candidacy doing damage is very real.

00:38:12.000 Americans don't like either party right now.

00:38:14.000 Look at the polls.

00:38:15.000 When Howard Schultz blasts both parties, he is not wrong.

00:38:17.000 Here is Schultz blasting both parties the other day.

00:38:21.000 Both parties are consistently not doing what's necessary on behalf of the American people and are engaged every single day in revenge politics.

00:38:32.000 Well, we are sitting today with approximately $21.5 trillion of debt, which is a reckless example not only of Republicans, but of Democrats as well.

00:38:45.000 as a reckless failure of their constitutional responsibility.

00:38:50.000 Okay, all of this is true.

00:38:51.000 And again, you know, if I'm a Democrat, I'm scared of Howard Schultz, which is why they're screaming at him right now.

00:38:56.000 Now, meanwhile, does that mean that they're going to change their policies?

00:38:58.000 Of course not.

00:38:59.000 It means they're going to keep doubling down on radicalism and then hope that Howard Schultz withdraws out of the goodness of his heart and that the American people reject him simply because they hate Trump so much.

00:39:07.000 So Jamel Bouie, another leftist on the New York Times editorial, Which is just what they need.

00:39:11.000 They need another member of the leftist cadre over at the New York Times.

00:39:14.000 Very important.

00:39:16.000 They must never hire an actual conservative.

00:39:19.000 There's still, by the way, not a single person of whom I am aware who is on the editorial board or who writes columns for the Washington Post, for the New York Times, for Time Magazine, for any of these places, who plans on voting for Trump in 2020.

00:39:33.000 Not one, which is amazing, because half the country is going to vote for Trump.

00:39:36.000 But Jamal Bowie was recently hired over at the New York Times, and he has an article today about how Ocasio-Cortez, Warren, and Sanders are the future of the United States and how they represent the history of the United States.

00:39:47.000 Now, they may in fact be the future of the United States if the future of the United States is suicide, but the case that America's history is deeply intertwined with radical redistributionism is simply nonsense.

00:39:58.000 Nonetheless, Democrats are going to continue to make this case.

00:40:01.000 They feel like Trump's unpopularity is a window for them to push as hard left as they want to push.

00:40:05.000 So here's Jamal Bowie.

00:40:07.000 He says, "An old but still potent critique "has reemerged in American politics, "one that holds concentrated wealth "and perhaps American capitalism itself "as inimical to the democratic society we want to build.

00:40:17.000 "The basic idea holds that holds capitalism as, at best, "an uneasy partner with our democratic values.

00:40:24.000 At worst, it erodes them completely, undermining the social and material basis of Republican citizenship as envisioned by the American revolutionaries.

00:40:31.000 Since the start of the new year, this thinking has become especially prominent.

00:40:34.000 And then he quotes Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Elizabeth Warren. 1.00

00:40:38.000 This is idiocy, of course. 0.98

00:40:40.000 The idea that capitalism is inimical to American democratic values, it's just not true. 0.99

00:40:45.000 Now, aristocratic concentration of wealth is. 0.61

00:40:49.000 inimical to American values.

00:40:50.000 If you read Alexis de Tocqueville, if you read Thomas Jefferson, if you read The Founding Fathers, one of the things that they were hoping to escape in Europe was this idea of an aristocratic wealth system in which the centralized government passed on favors to a select few.

00:41:03.000 That they were seeking to avoid.

00:41:04.000 But a free market system where people can freely alienate their labor and trade goods and services for other goods and services, that was something all the founders were in favor of.

00:41:13.000 Now, the United States was also uniquely blessed.

00:41:15.000 De Tocqueville talks about this.

00:41:17.000 The United States was uniquely blessed with an extraordinary level of middle-class development, specifically because we lived on a relatively uncultivated continent with lots of free land for everybody, so it wasn't that hard to go out there, stake your claim, and suddenly you were a middle-class farmer.

00:41:32.000 But the idea that the solution was for government to forcibly redistribute wealth, that was something that the founders never contemplated and set up a government to prevent.

00:41:41.000 Yet Jamal Bowie makes the case that America has always been in favor of such redistributionism.

00:41:46.000 Shall we say the evidence is rather scanty of this?

00:41:48.000 So here is his suggestion.

00:41:52.000 He says, most Americans tend not to think of these egalitarian, even anti-capitalist sentiments as part of the nation's intellectual heritage.

00:41:59.000 But Warren, Ocasio-Cortez, and similarly situated politicians like Bernie Sanders are drawing on influential currents in American political history.

00:42:06.000 First of all, I should Note that here he is ripping off Joseph Ellis's new book about the Founding Fathers, which has some serious problems.

00:42:14.000 I've recommended it on the show, but it's got some serious selective reading problems.

00:42:17.000 Here's Jamal Bowie again.

00:42:18.000 is that some of those stretch back to the founding era.

00:42:20.000 Despite his own status as a wealthy slaveholder, Thomas Jefferson was wary of extreme disparities of wealth and thought it was incompatible with Republican political ideals.

00:42:28.000 Commenting on the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind in Europe, he described his position in a famous letter to James Madison in 1785.

00:42:39.000 Whenever there is in any country uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right.

00:42:46.000 The earth is given as a common stock for man to labor and live on.

00:42:50.000 If, for the encouragement of industry, we allow it to be appropriated, we must take care that other employment must be furnished to those excluded from the appropriation.

00:42:58.000 Okay, what he's specifically talking about there is the idea that rich people are going to have control of all the land, and poor people won't be able to work on the land.

00:43:05.000 Well, that's written into American law.

00:43:07.000 There's something called adverse possession in American law, in which if I buy a huge tract of land, and I don't do anything with it for 20 years, and you, without my knowledge, go and cultivate a piece of that land and turn it into your family farm, you actually now have possession of it under American law.

00:43:22.000 Well, he's certainly not talking about the forcible extraction of wealth from people.

00:43:28.000 The key part of that phrase, when Jefferson is writing, is whenever there is in any country uncultivated lands and unemployed poor.

00:43:35.000 Where are the uncultivated lands?

00:43:37.000 And then, I love this.

00:43:38.000 He just fast forwards to Eugene Debs.

00:43:40.000 No stop in the middle.

00:43:40.000 So, Jamal Bowie goes from Thomas Jefferson, who's a radical, a radical, decentralized power guy.

00:43:46.000 He didn't want power centralized in a government at all.

00:43:49.000 Jefferson was closer to anarcho-capitalism than he was to a centralized government Marxism.

00:43:56.000 I love this.

00:43:56.000 Jamal Bowie skips from here, from misrepresentation of Jefferson, forward to Eugene Debs, an actual socialist in the early 20th century, and then suggests that socialism is written into the American compact.

00:44:08.000 You may miss some folks, like in between, and around, and like in the Constitution, and the Federalist Papers, and like all of American history, you may have missed there.

00:44:16.000 But I guess if you quote Eugene Debs, who is legitimately a socialist, then I suppose that we're on solid ground now.

00:44:24.000 Jamel Bowie concludes, by the end of the 20th centuries, the insights of the New Deal period had been smothered by corporate power and its political allies with predictable consequences.

00:44:32.000 We live with a narrow politics where democratic deliberation rarely touches the fundamental questions of power and ownership.

00:44:38.000 That's weird because it seems to me that every five seconds we're discussing how much wealth to expropriate from people who have already paid their taxes.

00:44:45.000 He says, as Americans across the political spectrum gear up to try to deny President Trump a second term in office, All of this may seem divisive, a distraction from the emergency at hand.

00:44:54.000 Just the opposite is true.

00:44:56.000 Trump's presidency is a symptom of profound democratic weakness.

00:45:00.000 Should he lose in 2020, that will be the beginning of a recovery.

00:45:03.000 We'll still need to rethink and rebuild our democracy, and that has to include a reimagining of the economy on which it rests.

00:45:11.000 Okay, so the Democrats have made a mistake here.

00:45:13.000 They are misinterpreting dislike for President Trump, who is, in truth, a relatively unlikable fellow.

00:45:18.000 They are now misinterpreting lack of support for President Trump with support of full-scale Eugene V. Debs socialism.

00:45:24.000 And then they wonder why maybe Howard Schultz is dangerous to their program.

00:45:28.000 And all they have to do is not be crazy, and they can't even do that.

00:45:32.000 It's just amazing.

00:45:33.000 Okay, time for some things I like, and then some things that I hate.

00:45:36.000 So, things that I like today.

00:45:38.000 America's an amazing place.

00:45:39.000 So, there was an Air Force veteran with no family, and he passed away.

00:45:44.000 And there was a story about this, that folks, he had nobody to show up at his funeral.

00:45:49.000 Well, folks like Jake Tapper, some other folks in the media, they made the case that folks should show up to this guy's funeral.

00:45:55.000 Again, Air Force veteran, had no family, And thousands of people showed up to the funeral of a person they did not know.

00:46:02.000 That's an amazing thing.

00:46:03.000 Here is a picture, if you can't see it, of a line of cars.

00:46:06.000 It's like Field of Dreams.

00:46:07.000 A line of cars stretching off into the horizon for people showing up to pay homage to an Air Force veteran with no family who is buried after fears that no one would actually attend his funeral.

00:46:18.000 It's an amazing, amazing thing.

00:46:20.000 It's an amazing country.

00:46:20.000 It really is.

00:46:21.000 There's so many good people in this country.

00:46:23.000 And the fact that some people in politics want to polarize us from one another so we can attack each other's wealth or attack each other by identity, group.

00:46:31.000 It's really, it's really gross.

00:46:32.000 This is what America is all about.

00:46:33.000 People showing up to the funeral of a person who they didn't even know.

00:46:36.000 You know, the highest form of charity, it says in Jewish thought, is going to somebody's funeral because it's charity that can never be reciprocated, obviously.

00:46:44.000 The fact that Americans still understand that they owe something to veterans with whom they are not related.

00:46:50.000 It's just, it's an amazing thing.

00:46:51.000 Okay.

00:46:52.000 Other things that I like today.

00:46:53.000 So...

00:46:54.000 It's amazing how members of the LGBT community are considered a one giant kind of intellectual block. 1.00

00:47:01.000 That obviously is not true.

00:47:03.000 It simply is not true.

00:47:04.000 If you are a lesbian or a gay person, there is no reason that you should buy into the propaganda that suggests that men can become women and women can become men.

00:47:11.000 And yet, if you are a lesbian or a gay person who believes in biological sex, you will be ostracized just the same way any conservative would be.

00:47:18.000 So, for example, there was a Well, in order for that to make any sense, sex has to be in a non-changeable category.

00:47:25.000 lawyer and spokeswoman for Women's Liberation Front spoke against the so-called Equality Act, denouncing the transgender and gender identity movement as anti-woman and anti-lesbian in particular, which makes perfect sense. 0.99

00:47:35.000 I mean, if you are a lesbian, presumably you prefer members of your same sex. 0.76

00:47:38.000 Well, in order for that to make any sense, sex has to be in a non-changeable category.

00:47:43.000 Otherwise, a man could be a woman. 1.00

00:47:45.000 I mean, we have seen weird situations like this.

00:47:48.000 My My sister used to teach at a college, and she told me that there was a situation in which a man who identified as queer, meaning that he was not straight, and a woman who identified as transgender and queer.

00:48:01.000 Ended up marrying each other.

00:48:03.000 So it was just a man and a woman marrying each other, but they had weird labels that they had attached to themselves.

00:48:07.000 But it was just a normal marriage.

00:48:08.000 But apparently, if you are in the lesbian or gay community, you must be forced to abide by dictates that actually make your own view of sexual orientation and sex relatively obsolete.

00:48:20.000 Here are some members of a panel at Heritage Foundation talking about this.

00:48:24.000 I got kicked off of the Baltimore mayor's LGBTQ commission as the only lesbian, simply for stating biological facts.

00:48:34.000 After a month's long witch hunt, I was found guilty of violence.

00:48:38.000 My crime?

00:48:40.000 Using male pronouns to talk about a convicted male rapist who identifies as transgender and prefers female pronouns. 0.93

00:48:50.000 It doesn't matter that he sexually assaulted two women in a women's prison after being transferred there on account of his gender identity. 0.96

00:48:59.000 Oh no, it is far more criminal for me to call a male rapist he than it is for him to rape. 0.98

00:49:06.000 Okay, and that's Julia Beck, who is a lesbian, talking about this. 1.00

00:49:09.000 It is pretty amazing.

00:49:10.000 It is pretty amazing.

00:49:10.000 But that is the world in which we now live, and it's a pretty ugly world.

00:49:13.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:49:18.000 So it now appears that there is no plan in Afghanistan.

00:49:20.000 President Trump is about to sign a new peace deal, apparently, with the Taliban in Afghanistan.

00:49:25.000 Now, there was a case we made that originally, when we invaded Afghanistan, the entire goal was just to destroy the Taliban and then prop somebody else up and leave.

00:49:33.000 We tried that, and apparently that has failed.

00:49:35.000 I've talked to many people who have served in the military in Afghanistan, people who have been in positions of power in Afghanistan, And what they say is that unless you are willing to cross the border and do the heavy lifting of going after terrorists in Pakistan, unless you're willing to tick off the Pakistani government, the Taliban was always going to end up retaking Afghanistan.

00:49:52.000 Now the question is whether the United States is going to hastily withdraw from Afghanistan and turn the country back over to the Taliban. 0.62

00:49:57.000 Just as in Syria, there seems to be a real desire for America to withdraw.

00:50:01.000 The fact is that if America does withdraw, the Taliban will take over again. 0.93

00:50:04.000 It will once again become a safe harbor for terrorists.

00:50:07.000 We'll ignore it for 10 years and then there will be a terrorist attack.

00:50:09.000 The entire reason we went into Afghanistan again was because of 9-11.

00:50:12.000 This was the good war, supposedly, according to Barack Obama.

00:50:15.000 Even that good war is now being undermined by the idea that the United States has to pull out as fast as possible. 0.98

00:50:21.000 Damn the future consequences. 0.69

00:50:24.000 Well, according to the New York Times, a hasty American withdrawal would erode the authority and legitimacy of the Afghan government, raising the risk that the Taliban could recapture control of the country. 0.98

00:50:33.000 Short of that, it could consign Afghanistan to a protracted bloody civil war.

00:50:37.000 Here's the thing about American foreign policy.

00:50:38.000 There are not always great answers.

00:50:40.000 Sometimes the best answer is just to muddle through.

00:50:42.000 And it seems like most presidents kind of get this.

00:50:45.000 President Trump gets this.

00:50:46.000 So did Barack Obama.

00:50:47.000 Barack Obama wanted to pull out of Afghanistan too.

00:50:49.000 He didn't.

00:50:50.000 Because once you get in that chair and information comes across your desk, you now have to make difficult decisions.

00:50:55.000 It's easy to campaign on the isolationism that is popular among Americans.

00:50:59.000 It is much harder to govern from that popular isolationism when you want to keep America safe.

00:51:05.000 All of which suggests the American people should get real about their own foreign policy.

00:51:08.000 If you want to be safe, that means that we are going to have to be in places that are uncomfortable.

00:51:12.000 If, however, you are willing to take the sacrifice of Americans at home being in more danger, then you can be a little bit more isolationist than you might otherwise necessarily be.

00:51:22.000 But let's be straight about the choices that are being made.

00:51:24.000 Let's not fib and say we can have everything, a fully isolationist foreign policy, and a less dangerous world.

00:51:29.000 It doesn't work that way.

00:51:30.000 Alrighty.

00:51:30.000 Well, we'll be back here a little bit later with two more hours, if my cold can bear it.

00:51:35.000 We'll see you there later, or we'll see you here tomorrow.

00:51:37.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - January 29, 2019

Easier For A Kamala To Pass Through The Eye Of A Needle | Ep. 705

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