An economist by profession and a maverick by nature, President Javier Mille has become a polarizing figure in Argentine politics, championing a libertarian approach in a landscape traditionally dominated by populist and socialist policies. His journey to the presidency is not just a political story, it s a narrative about challenging the entrenched status quo, advocating for radical change, and inspiring a movement. In a world where the specter of socialism looms large, Mille stands as a bulwark against the threats to economic freedom and foster entrepreneurship. Join us for a riveting discussion that spans the spectrum of political, economic, and social ideology, and offers a glimpse into the mind of one of today s most fascinating political figures. In this episode, we explore his incisive views on the current state of the West, dissecting the ideological battles that threaten the foundational principles of freedom and prosperity, and dissect his prescriptions for recovery. We also delve into his personal journey, tracing the roots of his political and economic philosophies to his formative years, uncovering the experiences that shaped his worldview and moments that propelled him from a renowned economist to a national leader. And, as always, thank you for tuning into HYPEBEAST Radio and Business of HYPE. Please don t forget to rate, review, and subscribe to our other shows MIC/LINE, The Anthropology, The HYPE Report, and HYPETALKS. Music: Fair Weather Fans by The Baseball Project, Recorded live at WFMU and The Electric Light Orchestra, Recorded in Los Angeles, CA - Season 1, Season 2, Season 3, Season 4, Season 5, Episode 5, Season 6, coming soon! - Season 4 - Season 5 is available on Amazon Prime and Vimeo, Fall 2020. Subscribe to HYPETROLEUM - Season 2 is available now! and Season 5 will be available on Vimeo. Download MP3" Subscribe? Subscribe & Share on iTunes? Subscribe to Business of Business of Humanity? Subscribe? Learn more about your ad choices? and become a supporter of our new podcast? Subscribe & review our new episodes on social media platforms? Connect with us on Apple Podcasts? - Rate & review us on Podcoin? We'll be giving you a chance to hear our recommendations on what else you might be listening to us on the show? Get our best listening experience and other links to our podcast, and more! Thank you for supporting our work?
00:00:36.000Today, we're honored to host a figure who has not only captivated the attention of his nation,
00:00:40.000but has stirred conversations around the globe about the direction of Western civilization,
00:00:44.000economic freedom, and the power of individualism.
00:00:48.000A figure whose meteoric rise in politics is matched only by his unyielding dedication to poor conservative principles.
00:00:54.000Today, we welcome President Javier Mille to the Sunday Special.
00:00:57.000An economist by profession and a maverick by nature, President Mille has become a polarizing figure in Argentine politics, championing a libertarian approach in a landscape traditionally dominated by populist and socialist policies.
00:01:09.000His journey to the presidency is not just a political story, it's a narrative about challenging the entrenched status quo, advocating for radical change, and inspiring a movement.
00:01:18.000Mille has risen to prominence through his outspoken criticism of fiscal irresponsibility, his advocacy for reducing the size of government, and his unique ability to connect with the disaffected voters tired of traditional politics.
00:01:28.000In 2018, Mille became the most interviewed economist on television, with 235 interviews, also hosting his own radio show, Demoliendo Mitos, or Demolishing Myths.
00:01:38.000In 2023, Millet ran for president as part of La Libertad Avanza, and as inflation rose above 100% in the country, so did Millet's position in the polls.
00:01:47.000On November 19, 2023, he defeated his political opponent, Sergio Massa, in a landslide historic election, gaining the highest percentage of the vote since Argentina became a democracy.
00:01:56.000In his victory speech, Millet promised a reconstruction of Argentina and the end to its economic decline, a new era.
00:02:03.000Since taking office, President Mele has lowered the number of ministries from 18 to 9, deregulated the Argentine economy, and slowed inflation in the country.
00:02:11.000In today's conversation, we explore Mele's incisive views on the current state of the West, dissecting the ideological battles that threaten the foundational principles of freedom and prosperity.
00:02:19.000We discuss Argentina's economic turmoil, characterized by rampant inflation, fiscal deficits, and a burgeoning public debt.
00:02:26.000Mile's diagnosis of Argentina's economic woes and his prescriptions for recovery are both controversial and compelling, advocating for sweeping reforms to restore economic stability and growth.
00:02:36.000We also delve into Mile's personal journey, tracing the roots of his political and economic philosophies to his formative years, uncovering experiences that shaped his worldview and moments that propelled him from a renowned economist to a national leader.
00:02:47.000In a world where the specter of socialism looms large, Millet stands as a bulwark against the threats to economic freedom, championing policies that empower individuals and foster entrepreneurship.
00:02:56.000Join us for a riveting discussion that spans the spectrum of political, economic, and social ideology,
00:03:01.000and offers a glimpse into the mind of one of today's most fascinating political figures.
00:03:05.000Presidente Mele, es un honor conocerlo.
00:03:19.000I want to start by asking you, how do you make such audacious economic decisions?
00:03:22.000For people who don't know anything about Argentina, what was the situation that led to your election and how did you get the freedom to do so?
00:03:30.000that led to his election and how he gets the freedom to do it.
00:03:33.000Well, in principle, when we arrive, we inherit the worst inheritance
00:03:41.000that a government in all of Argentine history has received.
00:03:44.000And In that sense, for example, when a country has twin deficits for four points of GDP, it's a yellow alert.
00:04:00.000At the same time, of those 17 points, 15 were explained by the fiscal deficit.
00:04:10.000where 5 points were explained by the deficit in the treasury and 10 points of the PBI were in the central bank.
00:04:19.000In fact, the debt of the central bank, the previous government, was in charge of spending it for 30 days, 60 days, 90 days, 120, 150, 180 days.
00:06:26.000The only way to make an adjustment without financing was that it had to be a shock.
00:06:32.000And that shock had to be tremendously abrupt because of this constellation of imbalances.
00:06:38.000Because, in fact, if the crisis had exploded, today we would be talking not only about hyperinflation, but we would be talking about 95% of the poor and probably 50 or 60% of the needy.
00:06:53.000In that context, there was no alternative to make the adjustment.
00:06:58.000In that sense, we announced a zero-deficit program.
00:07:04.000I mean, an adjustment, let's say, to stop having a fiscal deficit and to cut the emission of what had to do with the tax.
00:07:13.000On the other hand, we started a process of balancing the central bank to lower those 10 points of the GDP of deficit generated by the central bank.
00:07:22.000And at the same time, as there was a change gap of 200%, we made a change correction to try to eliminate the gap.
00:07:34.000In that sense, we hoped that the zero deficit would be reached by 2024.
00:07:41.000In fact, all the analysts said that it was impossible, that it was not possible to do it.
00:08:37.000It is expected that in what is March, being a very, very, very complicated month, it is around 10.5% and the core is already within a digit.
00:08:50.000And in the month of April we could enter a digit of inflation and the core in a low digit.
00:09:02.000At the same time, We have substantially improved the balance of the Central Bank, because although we receive the Central Bank with net negative reserves for 11,500 million dollars, and since we came to power, we have accumulated purchases for more than 12,000 million dollars, and despite that purchase of currencies, despite
00:09:31.000Some instruments, some PUDs that fired monetary emission that the previous government did to control the exchange rate, and what has to do with the remuneration of the passives, these that I said I would pass one day, that before were the LERICS and now are the PASES.
00:09:51.000Despite all that emission, the contraction we made for Bopreal, which is a bonus to rescue pesos, and also the tax surplus, allowed us to absorb so much money that the monetary base is constant.
00:11:18.000Obviously, an adjustment of these characteristics has an impact on economic activity, and we know that.
00:11:23.000But the good news is that, for example, the mining sector is already growing, Today the Angaza is growing, the agricultural sector, the field is growing, and other sectors are starting to sharply cut the fall rate.
00:11:46.000And the behavior of a short bee is being observed.
00:11:53.000And this is important because we thought this was going to happen at the beginning of the second part of the year and it started to happen now.
00:12:06.000And then there are very interesting things, because although 75% of Argentines recognize that they are worse, Today, look, when we started the management, only 20% believed that we were going to be better throughout the year.
00:12:22.000In January, that number jumped to 30%.
00:13:40.000That is, even with the hard vote, we have increased it by 60% and we could win in the first round because the person with the most intention of votes after us is Cristina Fernández de Kirchherr with 20.
00:13:55.000And neither could one say that the 10 extra that you get in the second round will get 0.
00:14:03.000If it gets half, it means that we would be getting 53% in the votes.
00:14:09.000And this is the most important thing from my point of view, and I think you will value it in a way.
00:14:16.000Faced with such an adjustment, how can it be that my popularity has increased?
00:14:23.000How can it be that my intention to vote has increased?
00:14:31.000It means that the cultural battle is giving results.
00:14:33.000And the Argentines decided to mature, put on their long pants and once and for all start doing things right.
00:14:42.000And this, then, exceeds the case of Javier Milei.
00:14:47.000It's the Argentines who have decided to embrace freedom.
00:14:55.000And that's what allows us to keep moving forward Because we know that the path from point A to point B was not going to be a straight line, without inconveniences.
00:15:08.000But the important thing is that we are clear about where we want to go.
00:15:11.000So, for example, the Congress of Reforms can approve me or not.
00:15:15.000I don't know if the Congress can approve my reforms or not.
00:15:18.000But if they don't approve them now, I plan to send them in 2025 with a better composition of
00:15:29.000And then, not only am I going to finish completing the 1,000 reforms that I have already sent, but I'm going to send the 3,000 that I have pending.
00:15:38.000We'll get to more on this in a moment.
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00:16:37.000It's astonishing because you're doing all these audacious things, and people in the West, particularly on the left, are confused by this, because they treat it as something that is anathema.
00:16:48.000There are even people on the right who do not understand the audacity of what you are doing, but precisely the basis of your campaign, capitalism, freedom, private property and freedom, all of this What example should Argentina play in the rest of the West,
00:17:40.000I mean, because they are socialisms of different kinds.
00:17:47.000So, in that sense, what one has to find is to realize that Argentina applied all those things.
00:17:54.000The stupidity of social justice, Argentina is an emblematic example of social justice and the damage that social justice causes.
00:18:01.000So, in that sense, what we have to understand Argentina, in that event that made it the richest country in the world, today it is 140, was to embrace those ideas that today the West is embracing.
00:18:16.000That's why in Davos I said, the West is in danger, because we have abandoned in the West the ideas of freedom, which are the ones that generate prosperity, and they began to embrace the ideas of decadence, which are the socialist ideas.
00:18:31.000And in that sense, what happened in Argentina is That he was super impregnated, because this, let's say, Gramsci had worked perfectly for you in Argentina.
00:18:42.000He's involved in education, he's involved in culture, he's involved in politics, he's involved in socialism everywhere.
00:19:18.000The second point, being young, they had much less exposure time to the brainwashing of public education.
00:19:25.000On the other hand, another thing that happened is that, as they have access to social networks, One of the things I used to do when I was on television, and I still do today, is to quote my reference authors.
00:19:45.000And what that did was that young people went to check those authors.
00:19:51.000So, between YouTube and Google and others, search engines, I mean, and those places where you can download books, That's what generated an explosion of knowledge.
00:20:06.000In fact, our greatest reference in freedom in Argentine history, Dr. Alberto Venegas Lynch, son, also known as the Prosser, said, he said, the big difference between this movement and the end of the 80s is that this time young people were well-trained.
00:20:31.000In fact, we used to go and do what we call recitals, which would be like political acts, but with a format similar to the Rolling Stones.
00:20:44.000You know, because I like the Rolling Stones and I would have liked to be like Mick Jagger, so I do it, but I do it from politics.
00:20:51.000I didn't make it singing because I'm very bad, but I made it from politics.
00:20:57.000And one of the wonderful things is that There are booths, like in the recitals, with t-shirts, with different gifts, with different things, and there are booths with books.
00:21:16.000In fact, Dr. Woolrich, who was part of the electoral campaign, she, along with El Cambio, and who I am proud to be part of today, of my cabinet of ministers, because he's my Minister of Security, and he's doing a truly formidable job.
00:21:35.000In fact, just like our Minister of Defense, Dr. Petri, let's say, because they were the alternative formula to change, but the Argentines chose a much more radical, deeper, more aggressive change than the one we represented.
00:21:55.000And there's something very interesting, because at one point, Dr. Bullrich said something brilliant, she said, you should pay more attention to what my law is doing, because it's not normal for a politician to be talking to 20,000, 30,000 people about Hayek.
00:22:12.000So, obviously, something was happening.
00:22:18.000I remember, That in the launch of the presidential race in the province of Mendoza, I started to explain the dollarization.
00:22:40.000And I saw from the many articles that I have given, one of the ones I gave was monetary theory.
00:22:46.000I am an expert in economic growth with and without money.
00:22:51.000So I can teach growth classes, I can teach money classes, or growth with and without money.
00:22:58.000And one of the complex problems that I've had to explain in my courses on monetary theory is the problem of nominal anchor.
00:23:08.000In fact, the vast majority of economists don't understand it well.
00:23:11.000And in that sense, I was in Mendoza in front of 20,000 people, And at one point, I'm explaining the nominal anchor in front of 20,000 people.
00:23:26.000And when I became aware of it, I said, this can't be happening.
00:23:32.000In my case, I said, I'm giving a class of nominal anchor in front of 20,000 people.
00:24:33.000When you don't like what you see on TV, you have the remote control and you change it.
00:24:38.000Now, when your children start telling you, my law, my law, my law, once, you didn't hear it twice, no, but you don't have remote control for your children.
00:24:46.000So, sooner or later, they managed to get their parents to listen to me, and this is what has allowed me to explain this success.
00:24:57.000But what you have to understand is that this would not have been possible if the cultural battle had not taken place.
00:25:08.000When I started giving the talks, there were between 10 and 15 people.
00:25:15.000We'll get to more on this in just a moment.
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00:27:18.000Because if you look at what I told you at the beginning, Ben, I told you, the Argentines matured.
00:27:28.000The Argentines put on their long pants.
00:27:30.000Well, that means they understood That the fault of what's happening to us, we can't be blaming it on the rest.
00:27:43.000Nor blame it on the United States, nor blame it on Europe, nor blame it, let's say, on the Monetary Fund, or anything.
00:27:51.000In fact, one of the elements that I raised during the campaign, has to do with the fact that I said, that unlike the remaining politicians, when it comes to the elections, the traditional politician, He asks you for the vote so that you give him the power to control your life.
00:28:21.000He treats you even worse than a teenager.
00:28:23.000And in that sense, what we were saying is, we don't want to do that.
00:28:28.000What we say is, we don't want to do that.
00:28:32.000When we ask for the vote, it is to give you back your freedom
00:28:37.000and to be the architect of your own destiny.
00:28:43.000That, I say, for the first part of the argument that you have raised around this attitude, let's say, of the Argentines and how it has been changing.
00:28:54.000In that sense, we have decided to embrace the values of the West.
00:28:57.000And embracing the ideas of the West is embracing the ideas of the founding fathers of the United States, In fact, the constitution of the United States has a lot to do with the original constitution of Argentina of Juan Bautista Alberti of the year 1853.
00:29:18.000in 1853, which in fact when it was launched in 1860, Argentina, being a country of barbarians,
00:29:26.000in 35 years became the first world power.
00:29:29.000So, embracing the values of the West is a fundamental element to become a developed country again.
00:29:42.000In fact, the 1,000 reforms that we sent in the first month, if all of them remained in force, Argentina would go on to improve 90 positions in the ranking of economic freedom.
00:29:56.000And Argentina could look like Germany in a span of 20 years.
00:30:03.000And if you look at what I said a while ago, I said, well, but those are 1,000 reforms, we still have 3,000 more.
00:30:11.000In fact, what we are looking for is to look like Ireland.
00:30:17.000Ireland must be the most miserable country in Europe in a period of 30 to 40 years.
00:30:22.000Today, let's say, it has a GDP that is 50% higher than that of the United States.
00:31:45.000Because it's a people that has also achieved... I can't find the word, but it would be like the conjunction between the spiritual and the material.
00:32:06.000And that spiritual-material harmony generates progress.
00:32:14.000When I gave my talks before entering politics, in the latter part I talked about the moral superiority of capitalism.
00:32:28.000I originally believed that socialism was like a kind of mental illness.
00:32:36.000In other words, they had some problem in understanding or something.
00:32:42.000Because, having been defeated in theory, and having been defeated in empirical evidence, because where socialism was applied in pure format was a failure in economics, in social, in cultural, and in addition, 150 million human beings were murdered.
00:33:01.000It didn't occur to me how it could be that there were people who adhered to those murderous and impoverishing ideas.
00:33:11.000I mean, socialism is always and everywhere an impoverishing phenomenon, a murderous phenomenon.
00:33:20.000And so, I kept developing this, and the answer was given to me by the economic theory, and it has to do with the theory of value.
00:33:30.000When you go to the end of the debate, you find the dispute between the subjective theory of value And the objective theory of value.
00:33:42.000So the question is, why can't they get out of the objective theory of value?
00:33:46.000It's that they can't get out of the objective theory of value because the objective theory of value is what allows to apply the theory of the exploitation of Robertus, improved by Marx with the concept of plus value.
00:33:59.000And then the reason is, why do they apply that?
00:34:04.000And that's where their moral values appear, which are envy, hatred, resentment, treatment of others the same against the law, and, if necessary, murder.
00:34:13.000And the institutions that emerge from those moral values are filthy, and as a consequence of that, you're going to sink.
00:34:21.000While when you embrace the ideas of freedom, what happens?
00:34:48.000You're the champion of love for others.
00:34:51.000So, in that sense, that's why I also, let's say, beyond, let's say, different events that throughout my life, They have strongly impacted me and they have led me towards Judaism.
00:35:08.000The set of values are fundamental for the construction of institutions.
00:35:19.000And the day you read about Moses, you become a Taliban of freedom.
00:35:26.000What he says clearly appears in Adam Smith.
00:35:29.000He spoke of moral sentiments before he spoke of the wealth of nations, the idea that man is made in the image and likeness of God, the idea of equality before the law, which also comes from the Bible, the issue of property.
00:35:43.000All that comes from the Bible, after all, and that's the context of capitalism.
00:35:46.000And you talk about this so eloquently, but in the United States, your image is you, marking the ministries and saying,
00:35:55.000out, out, out, or the video in which he is with the chainsaw.
00:37:15.000And unlike the rest, when he makes a mistake, it's a goal against him.
00:37:25.000And it's also a very ungrateful position, because when a goalkeeper saves a goal, it's equivalent to scoring one.
00:37:40.000And when a striker scores a goal, it's a goal.
00:37:44.000However, strikers are worth a lot more than goalkeepers.
00:37:49.000So, that shows that it is a position that is very hard to carry and that requires a very fierce personality.
00:37:57.000And if you look at what my electoral campaign was, there is no historical record of someone who has been so violently assaulted in an electoral campaign, violating all the rules of an electoral campaign, Where they have gotten involved with aspects of my private life, they have lied, they have insulted me, slandered me, they have gotten involved with my sister, with my parents, they have even gotten involved with my dogs.
00:38:29.000I mean, let's say, the worst cloaca in the universe is in the Argentine media.
00:38:38.000I mean, they were functional to two huge party structures to Destroy a person.
00:38:50.000But that strength that I had as an archer was what allowed me, let's say, to keep standing, added to the spiritual contention, let's say, that represents my sister and my rabbi Axel Vanish.
00:39:42.000But the truth is that with so much affection and affection that I have for the Rolling Stones, it seemed to me that it was better to leave so much damage on a band that I love so much.
00:39:56.000But then there is a histrionic question linked to that, and I also had a play, which was called El consultorio de mi ley, And that it was basically an economy talk in a psychology therapy format.
00:40:20.000And I think that all that conjunction of elements in a certain situation in the country allowed someone with my characteristics to become popular.
00:40:38.000In fact, if you go through my lectures, before I joined La Política, I would come in as if I were in a rock and roll recital.
00:40:53.000And it was very interesting, because I would start by thanking them, saying, thank you very much for so much type 2 error.
00:41:05.000Because type 1 error is when you do everything right and it goes wrong.
00:41:09.000And type 2 error is when you do everything wrong and it goes right.
00:41:15.000So, being an economist is not very popular.
00:41:21.000Being an antipathic economist, much less.
00:41:25.000A specialist in economic growth, much less in a country that was sick with Keynesianism.
00:41:33.000We'll get to more on this in just one moment.
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00:42:49.000So, how has it been moving from the world of commentary to the world of politics, from the media to the world of politics?
00:42:57.000I, of course, I'm in the United States, I talk to legislators all the time, talking about what it is to say the things that you really want to say, and then in the world of politics, you have to say the things you can say.
00:43:12.000Has it been very difficult, the transition from, for example, commentaries in panels, to being president?
00:43:22.000In fact, just as I went to the panels, I continued to teach at the university and gave lectures in very large theaters.
00:43:37.000And with my sister we noticed that we were becoming more popular because not only did we fill very large theaters in Argentina, but we also did it abroad.
00:43:53.000So, the cultural battle was working very well, and in reality, television was a way of advertising my work, and that allowed me to generate more conferences and earn more money.
00:44:12.000But when Alberto Fernández came to power, One of his advisors, someone who is now a congressman, Leandro Santoro, was asking the media to censor him.
00:44:27.000And, in fact, there began to be censorship of liberals.
00:44:35.000They stopped inviting them to the shows and there were 20 liberals going around the media The number has shrunk substantially.
00:44:46.000I think we're lucky to be five, but that's an exaggeration.
00:44:50.000And the only thing that kept me going was the rating.
00:44:55.000I mean, people followed me with the rating.
00:45:00.000And when we saw how the censorship was getting very deep, my sister and I considered that it could be affecting our ability to generate income.
00:45:14.000And then, faced with that situation, we said, well, these people have to be disputed where it hurts them.
00:45:20.000And that's when we decided to get involved in politics, which was also very complicated, because first they said that we couldn't form a party, and we did.
00:45:35.000Then they said that we couldn't pass the passes, that is, that we weren't going to get 2% of the votes.
00:45:42.000Then they told us we were going to lose against Voto en Blanco.
00:45:46.000Then they told us we were going to lose against Esquerda por Goliada.
00:45:52.000And in the end we ended up getting 17% of the votes, let's say, in the federal capital.
00:46:01.000And when we assumed, they also treated us very rudely, On the channel of the Congress, which is called Congreso TV, Diputados TV, a journalist that I knew from A24, in a very aggressive way, told me, well, but what can you do if there are only going to be two deputies in 257?
00:46:25.000and they were going to be two deputies in 257.
00:46:28.000And I answered him with the book of Maccabees 1, 319, which says that victory in war does not depend on the
00:46:41.000number of soldiers, but on the forces that come from heaven.
00:50:02.000And we also said that we were going to make a very strong adjustment and that we were going to suffer in the first stage, but that later we were going to get out.
00:50:17.000And that's why people support us, because we had the courage to tell them the truth.
00:50:22.000And that's why the political caste is disoriented.
00:50:30.000Because they always deceived people and always told them what they wanted to hear.
00:50:35.000And we told them that we were going to do what we had to do to get out of this pit.
00:50:42.000That's why I think the important fact is that I have the feeling that Argentine society has matured and has decided to embrace the ideas of freedom to definitely get ahead.
00:51:23.000And I say later, well, in more friendly readings, for example, Walter Block or Henry Haslitt, Or, let's say, more in the Chicago line, read Gary Baker, or read Milton Friedman, or Robert Lucas Jr., or also other institutional authors, such as Buchanan.
00:52:28.000President, I have the last question for you, because I know it has to run, it has a very intense agenda.
00:52:33.000The eyes of the world are in Argentina and you, because if you manage to transform Argentina, this is not going to be just a model for the rest of Latin America, which is experiencing that pink wave and moving in the wrong direction, but also for the West, because Argentina is a good warning story, right?
00:52:49.000And you, and the people in Argentina can be an example.
00:52:55.000We are convinced that despite the enormous effort we are making, we are going to move forward and we are going to create the foundations for Argentina to become great again.
00:53:07.000We are going to move forward and we are going to create the foundations for Argentina to
00:53:34.000I mean, let's say, statists are socialists of a different kind.
00:53:41.000But I think the case of Argentina is a case of study, because if we, in the face of such a decadent situation, manage to spread this decadence, We will not only improve the lives of the Argentinians, but
00:54:01.000we will improve the lives of all humanity.
00:54:04.000And that is a huge challenge, and it is worth fighting to the last drop of blood.