The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 102 - Trump's Very Good Brain Doesn't Know How Delegates Work

00:00:00.000 Good news leftists!

00:00:01.000 I am now one of you.

00:00:03.000 That is according to the genius devotees of alt-right intellectual wreckage heap Vox Dei.

00:00:09.000 They've now compiled a social justice warriors list in order to quote help SJW converged organizations

00:00:16.000 What makes you a social justice warrior according to these intellectual heavyweights?

00:00:41.000 What exactly did I do to earn this honored spot alongside such SJWs as Anita Sarkeesian and rape hoaxer Emma Sulkowicz? 1.00

00:00:50.000 In an interview with Dave Rubin, I said this, quote, 1.00

00:01:03.000 Now, because many alt-righters are both stupid and bear an uncomfortable love for racism, they found this difficult to understand or swallow. 1.00

00:01:10.000 Apparently, I was calling for their firing based on thought. 1.00

00:01:14.000 Except that these same genius intellectual alt-writers are incapable of a basic Google search, because I have always, always, always opposed firing people based on beliefs.

00:01:24.000 I've called for boycotting members of the left for leading boycotts based on beliefs.

00:01:28.000 Here's what I had to say about Brendan Eich, who was the CEO of Mozilla Firefox until he was fired, basically, for being pro-traditional marriage in April 2014.

00:01:35.000 Here's what I said, quote.

00:01:37.000 It's a frightening country to live in when a boycott can be led against you specifically based on your beliefs.

00:01:42.000 The fact that the left gets to use this tactic and destroy people's lives and destroy their businesses because of their political beliefs, they need to be held to their own standard.

00:01:49.000 They've now legitimized tactics that I personally find kind of despicable.

00:01:54.000 I also said, and I have said for a long time, I'm one of the few commentators

00:01:58.000 Explicitly opposed to the government regulating racist behavior in housing and employment because I believe that the market is going to punish people who engage in such nasty behavior. 0.98

00:02:08.000 If the alt-righters weren't quite so oversensitive about their idiotic racism, they would understand a basic distinction I make on virtually every topic. 0.98

00:02:15.000 The distinction between thought and behavior. 1.00

00:02:17.000 I don't really care what you think.

00:02:19.000 I care how you behave.

00:02:19.000 You can say what you think.

00:02:21.000 You can think what you want.

00:02:22.000 Behavior

00:02:23.000 Is a different story.

00:02:24.000 The minute you begin instituting racially based hiring practices, for example, my calculus changes and now social sanctions like boycotts, well those would be warranted. 0.98

00:02:33.000 So I guess if that makes me and SJW a social justice warrior, then I'm a social justice warrior.

00:02:38.000 I do have a feeling, though, that the real reason I'm being labeled an SJW is not because of my perspectives on racism.

00:02:45.000 It's because I refuse to support the homoerotic, alt-right, Freudian father figure, Donald Trump.

00:02:50.000 Which, of course, means that the people who are pushing this list are the actual show's social justice warriors trying to destroy careers based on policing thought. 1.00

00:02:59.000 Like, for example, not worshipping a 70-year-old bloated, fat, socialist loser named Donald Trump. 1.00

00:03:05.000 Or, perhaps they're just stupid. 1.00

00:03:08.000 Or perhaps they're both. 1.00

00:03:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, this is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:03:18.000 I'll explain why I have such trouble with the alt-righters in just a moment.

00:03:21.000 I've talked about it on this show before, but it never ends from the Trump folks.

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00:04:29.000 Okay, so quick note on the alt-writers and then we'll move into today's news.

00:04:33.000 So, I've noticed that my Twitter feed has been filled, just filled to the brim for literally months at this point. 0.94

00:04:39.000 With nothing but anti-semitic memes and talk about how I am a quote-unquote manlet, which I guess I had to look this up because I don't speak stupid. 0.75

00:04:48.000 Apparently, manlet means like some short guy who works out at the gym a lot. 0.89

00:04:51.000 So that's, I guess that's quasi-accurate.

00:04:54.000 I'm not super tall and I work out not at the gym a lot, but I work out a lot.

00:04:59.000 So I guess that's quasi-accurate.

00:05:00.000 But apparently, if you don't support Donald Trump, you're a manlet. 0.97

00:05:03.000 You lack in masculinity because the highest form of masculinity is God-worshipping and buttock massaging. 1.00

00:05:09.000 A 69-year-old lazy old man who cuckolds his wife routinely and it's just the whole thing is ridiculous. 1.00

00:05:19.000 All you people, all you single losers who sit in your basements masturbating to pictures of Donald Trump while wearing your Make America Great Again hat and you alternate between the red and the white hats. 1.00

00:05:28.000 Yeah, you're really coming after me for masculinity questions. 1.00

00:05:35.000 So there's that.

00:05:36.000 So between the manlet stuff and the you're not 5'9", you're lying about your height.

00:05:40.000 Okay, you're right.

00:05:41.000 I'm 4'3".

00:05:43.000 I've been hiding it all this time and I've been wearing foot and a half lifts.

00:05:47.000 That's the thing.

00:05:48.000 The reason that I'm discussing this is not because I'm much bothered by these people, although I have to admit I find it annoying when I literally cannot go to my mentions without seeing any of these things.

00:05:59.000 The reason I talk about this is because there's this element that's built up among a lot of people on the alt-right, supported by people who I used to consider friendlies, like Milo Yiannopoulos, who is, again, can be a very good thinker, but he's flirted with these folks for a long time. 0.64

00:06:16.000 That mixes up being politically incorrect with just being a douchebag. 0.92

00:06:20.000 And the people on the alt-right, they seem to take, they revel in just being douchebags. 0.98

00:06:24.000 Not just, like, this people's height, whatever, but putting out racist material, putting out sexist material. 0.96

00:06:30.000 There is such a thing. 0.99

00:06:31.000 And it does make you a douchebag. 0.95

00:06:32.000 It doesn't grant you a higher patina of virtue. 0.99

00:06:35.000 The idea that violating rules grants, in and of itself, a greater standard of virtue is just absolute silly towns.

00:06:42.000 I mean, it depends whether the rule is good or bad, and it depends how you're violating it.

00:06:45.000 Right?

00:06:46.000 I also don't like political correctness.

00:06:47.000 That doesn't mean that I'm gonna go around using the N-word.

00:06:50.000 I noticed that there was a story last week that on Milo's Slack account, apparently, he was informing people not to use the N-word.

00:06:55.000 Good!

00:06:55.000 I'm glad Milo was doing that.

00:06:56.000 The excuse he used for doing that, though, was that he didn't want it public that people were using the N-word on his Slack.

00:07:02.000 How about, like, don't use the N-word because it's gross?

00:07:04.000 How about that?

00:07:05.000 Again, I think Milo has some valuable things to say, but his flirtation with the folks on the alt-right is just, is beyond me.

00:07:11.000 I think Milo's too smart for that.

00:07:13.000 Okay, so, on to the news of the day.

00:07:15.000 That's just my little rant.

00:07:16.000 On to the news of the day.

00:07:18.000 So, Donald Trump is now complaining because he doesn't know how to do things.

00:07:22.000 Like, a lot of important things.

00:07:24.000 So, for example, in the middle of an election, which rests on winning delegates, Donald Trump seemed to be under the impression that he was actually playing jacks.

00:07:30.000 Like, he actually thought he was playing a completely different game than the rest of the field was playing.

00:07:35.000 Instead of winning delegates and hiring people who were going to go out and recruit delegates, instead, he just sort of assumed that it was going to be elections, and not just elections, plurality elections resulting in winner-based-all effects.

00:07:47.000 So, a couple of preliminaries.

00:07:49.000 Anyone who's complaining about the rules are really hurting Donald Trump.

00:07:52.000 Donald Trump has won 37% of the popular vote so far.

00:07:56.000 He has won 45% of the delegates.

00:07:58.000 That does not suggest to me that this is somebody who is being hurt by the rules.

00:08:01.000 This suggests to me that he is actually 22% ahead of where he would be if we had what you would call a representative system.

00:08:08.000 If we had

00:08:09.000 A popularly based proportional system, right?

00:08:11.000 He'd have 37% of the delegates and 37% of the vote.

00:08:15.000 That would make a lot more sense than 37% of the vote and 45% of the delegates, but Trump thinks that this is just the end of the world.

00:08:22.000 By the way, the system also heavily, heavily, heavily favors Trump himself because all of the states with a lot of delegates are lefty states.

00:08:28.000 It doesn't matter, like California, to take an example, my state, right?

00:08:31.000 California has 172 delegates at stake, 172 delegates.

00:08:35.000 California has not voted for a Republican

00:08:37.000 Since Jimmy Carter has not voted for a Republican, sorry, since H.W.

00:08:42.000 Bush in 1988.

00:08:44.000 172 delegates, 5 registered Republicans, 3 of them in this room.

00:08:49.000 So there are no registered Republicans in this state, and we have 172 delegates.

00:08:53.000 Texas, which has voted Republican in every presidential election since Carter in 1976, 155 delegates.

00:09:00.000 So this is a system that benefits Donald Trump.

00:09:02.000 Heavy red states that may not like Trump as much, those states

00:09:06.000 Don't have as many delegates as a lot of the blue states where Trump is more popular, like New York.

00:09:10.000 New York hasn't voted Republican since basically somebody bought Manhattan Island from the Native Americans for some bees, right? 1.00

00:09:16.000 I mean, it's been a left state.

00:09:18.000 For an extraordinarily long percentage of time, point in time.

00:09:22.000 So the whole system sort of benefits Trump, but he's whining now because he's saying he didn't get his fair shot in Colorado.

00:09:28.000 So here's what happened in Colorado.

00:09:30.000 In Colorado, the way that this works, they have a system, right?

00:09:33.000 So in 2004, they were holding caucuses in Colorado.

00:09:37.000 And they had what were called unbound delegates who were connected to the caucuses.

00:09:41.000 They would have caucuses, or really, they would have a primary.

00:09:44.000 But the delegates were not bound to the result of the primary.

00:09:46.000 So there would be delegates who were elected through caucuses, a bunch of people get in a room, and we say, Lindsay, you're gonna be our delegate to the national convention, and you get to decide what you want, but we trust you to make a good decision because you're our delegate.

00:09:57.000 Right?

00:09:57.000 Just like any representative election.

00:10:00.000 So she's unbound.

00:10:01.000 She's unbound.

00:10:02.000 If the whole state votes for Trump, she can go vote for Cruz.

00:10:05.000 That's how unbound delegates work. 1.00

00:10:07.000 And there are a bunch of states that work this way.

00:10:09.000 So they had a poll, and then they also had the caucuses, and the caucuses were designed to pick the delegates.

00:10:14.000 So since 2004, this has basically been the system.

00:10:17.000 In 2012, the system was altered a little bit, and they just said, we're not going to even bother doing the poll.

00:10:21.000 No more poll. 0.74

00:10:22.000 It's silly. 0.97

00:10:22.000 It's a waste of time. 0.97

00:10:23.000 Why are we bothering to do a statewide poll?

00:10:26.000 When the people are not bound anyway.

00:10:28.000 Why is that useful?

00:10:30.000 Right?

00:10:30.000 The delegates aren't bound anyway.

00:10:31.000 So instead, we'll just have the caucus system, right?

00:10:33.000 We'll go to our local caucuses.

00:10:34.000 There was one on March 1st, where almost 3,000 caucuses across the state of Colorado were held.

00:10:40.000 Delegates were picked to go to the state convention.

00:10:42.000 The state convention then picks, right, they have a vote.

00:10:45.000 And at that vote, they select the delegates who are going to go to the national convention.

00:10:48.000 And it works this way in a bunch of states.

00:10:50.000 Nine or so states operate this way.

00:10:52.000 Donald Trump is very angry because Donald Trump doesn't look up rules and he doesn't know how to read, so Donald Trump was very, very upset and thinks he's being gypped because Ted Cruz's people did what they were supposed to do.

00:11:02.000 Namely, they went and they recruited the delegates who were elected in those caucuses, and they said, okay, you guys, when you vote for the next slate of delegates to go to national level, please vote for these people.

00:11:11.000 And they gave a list of people who are pro-Cruz.

00:11:14.000 Trump didn't bother to do the research, and now he's super, super mad about it.

00:11:18.000 He's very, very upset.

00:11:19.000 And so here is Donald Trump clip three.

00:11:21.000 This is Donald Trump saying, the system has been rigged against Donald Trump.

00:11:24.000 It's always rigged against Donald Trump.

00:11:26.000 Anytime Trump doesn't succeed, this is... You want to know what social justice warrior looks like?

00:11:30.000 It's people who blame society for their own failings.

00:11:33.000 Trump doesn't know how to read, and Trump doesn't know how to put together

00:11:35.000 A slate of candidates?

00:11:37.000 So here is Donald Trump complaining like a social justice warrior.

00:11:40.000 All of society, I guess it's institutional racism that prevented him from using his very good brain and very best people to go and hire some people to go and actually caucus.

00:11:48.000 Here's Trump.

00:11:50.000 All right, so yesterday, or over the weekend, you lost the state of Colorado, and you tweeted about this.

00:11:54.000 You said you were angry, and you said it was unfair.

00:11:57.000 Why do you think that?

00:11:58.000 Well, it really started with Colorado, and the people out there are going crazy, you know, in the Denver area and Colorado itself.

00:12:06.000 They're going absolutely crazy because they weren't given a vote.

00:12:09.000 This was given by politicians.

00:12:10.000 It's a crooked deal.

00:12:12.000 And I see it.

00:12:13.000 And I see it honestly.

00:12:14.000 I see it with Bernie too.

00:12:15.000 You know, I've gotten millions more votes.

00:12:17.000 Millions.

00:12:18.000 Not just a couple.

00:12:19.000 Millions of more votes than Cruz.

00:12:21.000 And I've gotten hundreds of delegates more, and we keep fighting, fighting, fighting.

00:12:25.000 And then you have a Colorado where they, frankly, where they, you know, just get all of these delegates.

00:12:31.000 And it's not a system.

00:12:33.000 There was no voting.

00:12:33.000 I didn't go out there to make a speech or anything.

00:12:35.000 There's no voting.

00:12:36.000 And, you know, I heard Pete say, well, that's the way it is.

00:12:38.000 Well, that really shouldn't be the way it is.

00:12:40.000 This was changed in the summer to help a guy like Cruz.

00:12:43.000 And it's not right now.

00:12:44.000 You know, I won, as an example, South Carolina.

00:12:46.000 I won it by a landslide, like a massive landslide.

00:12:49.000 And now they're trying to pick off those delegates one by one.

00:12:52.000 That's not the way democracy is supposed to work.

00:12:55.000 And, you know, they offer them trips.

00:12:56.000 They offer them all sorts of things.

00:12:59.000 That's hilarious!

00:13:21.000 It's a rigged system.

00:13:23.000 It looks like it.

00:13:24.000 Mr. Trump, I've been a part of the caucus system in Minnesota.

00:13:27.000 It is a difficult system, and I was steamrolled by and out-organized by a Ron Paul movement.

00:13:32.000 Isn't it just fair to say that these are the rules, Ted Cruz is organized, and you're just flat out being out-organized?

00:13:37.000 No, because I've got millions more votes.

00:13:39.000 I mean, you could say he's out-organized because I have millions of more votes, Pete, and I happen to have more delegates than he does by a lot.

00:13:46.000 But when you go into a Colorado where the people of Colorado are complaining that they're not allowed to vote, that's the best of all because they're not even allowed to vote.

00:13:54.000 Or when I go into Louisiana and I win Louisiana by a lot, I get thousands of more votes than Cruz, and then I find out that I get less delegates

00:14:03.000 You know, hey, I'm somebody coming in to make America great again.

00:14:06.000 I'm coming in to do something positive.

00:14:08.000 I'm an outsider.

00:14:09.000 The system's rigged.

00:14:10.000 I see it.

00:14:11.000 Here's how it works.

00:14:13.000 He's an outsider. 1.00

00:14:13.000 That means he gets to be ignorant. 1.00

00:14:15.000 He's also an outsider, which means that whenever he makes a mistake, we're supposed to just pretend that he... 0.98

00:14:19.000 That he's just learning the ropes.

00:14:21.000 He's just learning the ropes, right?

00:14:22.000 Okay, first of all, back in 2012, he knew how the delegate process worked, and he explicitly praised Mitt Romney for working the delegate process.

00:14:28.000 Second of all, there is a difference between how delegates are selected at the Republican level and the superdelegates who are selected in the Democratic level.

00:14:35.000 So at the Democratic level, the way superdelegates are appointed is they are state officials and congresspeople from the Democratic Party.

00:14:41.000 They're selected in advance, before any of the caucuses go on,

00:14:44.000 The people, the individuals are selected before any of the caucuses or primaries and then those people are supposed to kind of put their thumb on the scale of justice.

00:14:51.000 The way the Colorado process works, the voters did select their delegates and then the delegates selected their national delegates.

00:14:57.000 So that is in fact a democratic process, but all of this doesn't mean anything because it's just going to be Trump whining.

00:15:02.000 Because he's not winning, right?

00:15:04.000 He's whining because he's not winning.

00:15:05.000 And so look, if you wanted to win this process, I thought there are a couple of things about this that really ought to be telling.

00:15:11.000 Even if you don't like the way this process goes.

00:15:13.000 I, again, think that the way the process ought to work is no winner-take-all anywhere ever.

00:15:18.000 It shouldn't be winner-take-all anywhere ever.

00:15:19.000 You should still have to get to a majority of the delegates.

00:15:22.000 And you should have to have proportional representation in all of the states.

00:15:26.000 So Trump would have 37% of the vote right now, and Ted Cruz would probably have about 21% of the delegates right now, and we'd go into the convention, everyone would know it was open, and then there would be a lot of brokering and a lot of bartering.

00:15:36.000 We wouldn't be generating false majorities by giving Trump 99 delegates in Florida for winning less than 50% of the vote.

00:15:43.000 That seems fairer to me, but we're not drawing up the rules from scratch.

00:15:46.000 So as long as we're not drawing up the rules from scratch, the rules are what they are.

00:15:50.000 And this speaks to the fact that Trump doesn't know what he's doing.

00:15:53.000 He doesn't know what he's doing.

00:15:54.000 There are a couple of things this speaks to.

00:15:56.000 One, Trump says that he's a great deal maker.

00:16:01.000 He's the best deal maker.

00:16:01.000 He's going to make deals.

00:16:02.000 He's going to win.

00:16:03.000 We're going to win.

00:16:04.000 We're going to win so much it makes your head spin.

00:16:05.000 We're going to win.

00:16:06.000 You're going to get sick of winning.

00:16:07.000 All we do is make great deals.

00:16:09.000 Great deals.

00:16:11.000 Well, why is it that Ted Cruz is schlonging him on the deals?

00:16:14.000 He says right there that Ted Cruz is buying people off with trips.

00:16:16.000 First of all, haven't seen any evidence that's true.

00:16:18.000 It would just be another Trump lie if it happens not to be true.

00:16:22.000 And his surrogates are out there saying the same thing, by the way.

00:16:24.000 We'll get to that in a second.

00:16:25.000 But he says Ted Cruz is making them deals.

00:16:27.000 Wait, I thought that was your deal.

00:16:28.000 I thought that's what you were good at.

00:16:29.000 I thought that's why you gave more money to Democrats than Republicans from 1980 to 2010.

00:16:34.000 Because you cut great deals.

00:16:36.000 So somehow you found the time and the wherewithal to sign a check to Nancy Pelosi and sign a check to Harry Reid, but you couldn't sign a check to your own guy to go and presumably try and bribe some of those delegates?

00:16:46.000 What a great deal maker you are.

00:16:47.000 And then he says he hires all the very best people.

00:16:50.000 No.

00:16:51.000 Clearly.

00:16:51.000 I mean, Cruz hired better people.

00:16:53.000 And finally, Trump says he has a very good brain and all of this does not suggest

00:16:57.000 The workings of a particularly great brain.

00:17:00.000 Speaking of hiring the best people, here is Trump's new convention manager, a guy named Paul Manafort.

00:17:05.000 A few years ago, I was approached by a fellow...

00:17:08.000 Who's kind of a black ops Republican specialist who's fixed up with me by a big Republican donor.

00:17:14.000 And I met with him three or four times probably because he kept suggesting that he wanted to produce a movie and he wanted my help with that.

00:17:22.000 And one of the people he wanted to fix me up with was the person you're about to see, a guy named Paul Manafort.

00:17:27.000 And Paul Manafort was at the time working very heavily to preserve in power the then dictator of Ukraine.

00:17:35.000 And needless to say, we didn't end up working together.

00:17:38.000 But this is Paul Manafort.

00:17:39.000 He manipulates on the international stage for good or ill.

00:17:43.000 Here is Paul Manafort explaining the Trump objections to how Ted Cruz is operating within the system.

00:17:49.000 What is fair game to win a delegate?

00:17:50.000 Is threatening a fair game?

00:17:52.000 Is threats a fair game?

00:17:53.000 It's not my style.

00:17:53.000 It's not Donald Trump's style.

00:17:55.000 But it is Ted Cruz's style.

00:17:58.000 And that's going to wear thin very fast.

00:18:00.000 You think he's threatening delegates?

00:18:01.000 Well, he's threatening that you go to these county conventions and you see the Gestapo tactics, the scorched earth tactics.

00:18:07.000 Gestapo tactics?

00:18:08.000 That's a strong word.

00:18:09.000 Well, we're going to be filing several protests because the reality is they're not playing by the rules.

00:18:16.000 But frankly, that's the side game because the only game I'm focusing on right now is getting delegates.

00:18:21.000 And the games that have happened, even this past weekend, are not

00:18:26.000 are not important to the long-term game of how to get to 1237.

00:18:29.000 Gestapo tactics.

00:18:30.000 Gestapo tactics.

00:18:31.000 For those who don't know the Gestapo, you're talking about the Nazi secret police who would go around literally taping electrodes to genitals and torturing people until they gave up information.

00:18:40.000 Yeah, the Gestapo were like the worst people ever.

00:18:41.000 I haven't seen that with Cruz.

00:18:43.000 I'm sorry, like, maybe Cruz's campaign has problems, but I haven't seen them actually torturing delegates in order to move to Cruz.

00:18:50.000 What I have seen is Roger Stone

00:18:52.000 The Trump campaign hitman, he's supposedly outside the organization, but he's clearly an operative for Trump, saying things like this.

00:18:59.000 He said last week, we're going to have protests, demonstrations.

00:19:02.000 We will disclose the hotels and the room numbers of the delegates who are directly involved in the steal.

00:19:07.000 So if we're talking about threats, if we're talking about getting violent with people who refuse to back you, seems a lot closer to the Trump campaign than anybody else.

00:19:16.000 But this is the routine now, is that Trump is going to play victim even as he fails to do his basic due diligence here.

00:19:23.000 And by the way, speaking of failure to do basic due diligence, two of his kids are supposed to be registered to vote in New York, and both of them failed to register as Republicans, so neither one of them can formally vote for Trump in New York primary.

00:19:35.000 So clearly, taking care of business on that level.

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00:19:47.000 First of all, you can get an email address, your name, at Reagan.com, which is cool.

00:19:51.000 You link your name with Reagan's every time you send an email.

00:19:54.000 And second, they make sure that they're not going to sell a single word, copy or scan a single word of your private email content, unlike a lot of other email services that allow the government to get in there and marketing firms to get in there to advertise to you and use cookies against you.

00:20:08.000 That's not what Reagan.com does.

00:20:10.000 To get a private account, a protected account from Reagan.com, you need to go to ReaganPrivacy.com.

00:20:15.000 That's ReaganPrivacy.com, and you'll get the first two months for free, so that is pretty cool.

00:20:21.000 Okay, so just to finish up on this, the election is rigged against Trump routine.

00:20:26.000 Glenn Beck, who is about as ardently anti-Trump as it's possible to be at this point, Glenn Beck says that if Trump has the most delegates going in but doesn't win the nomination, then he should be given the nomination anyway, and I want to explain why I disagree with Glenn here.

00:20:39.000 You would prefer a Trump nomination, if it's not Cruz, over anybody else?

00:20:45.000 No, no, no.

00:20:46.000 I think a Trump nomination would be... I am a never Trump guy.

00:20:50.000 I think a Trump nomination would be disastrous.

00:20:53.000 With that being said, you can't disenfranchise people.

00:20:57.000 If Trump wins the 12-37, or wins the first, second, third ballot, it must go to him, and it can't go

00:21:05.000 To dirty politics.

00:21:07.000 You can't continue to disenfranchise people.

00:21:10.000 I will never vote for Donald Trump, but if he's the guy that is picked with fair play, that's fine.

00:21:17.000 But you have Reince Priebus saying that it will be somebody who is running right now.

00:21:21.000 Okay, let's take the GOP chair at his word.

00:21:24.000 It's got to be somebody who's running.

00:21:27.000 Okay, so it's gotta be somebody who's running.

00:21:28.000 What's unclear about what Glenn is saying there is what happens when he says, if Trump wins the first ballot, does that mean Trump wins outright on the first ballot?

00:21:34.000 I mean, I agree, you can't change the rules of the game after the game has been played, but if Trump only ends up with 1,100 delegates, do you give it to him?

00:21:42.000 I don't think so.

00:21:43.000 I don't think so.

00:21:43.000 And I think that Trump people are gonna get mad and they're gonna walk away and I think that if Trump wins the nomination a lot of us are gonna get mad and they're gonna walk away because Trump is a polarizing figure because Trump has no centralizing principle or morality.

00:21:55.000 He just doesn't.

00:21:56.000 He's not a moral figure.

00:21:57.000 He doesn't have principles.

00:21:58.000 Trump's only reason for existence

00:22:01.000 Is just to be a, as someone at National Review put it, a pulsating middle finger.

00:22:05.000 That's basically all that Trump is.

00:22:08.000 There is one principle that he has.

00:22:11.000 And that principle is destroying the United States on trade.

00:22:13.000 Just destroying us.

00:22:14.000 So he was in Rochester, New York, Trump was.

00:22:17.000 Over the weekend.

00:22:18.000 We had a reporter there covering it.

00:22:20.000 And when Trump took the stage, he actually said Rochester's been a community.

00:22:24.000 I spoke there last week.

00:22:25.000 It's a very pro-Trump community because it's very blue-collar.

00:22:28.000 As I said on the podcast last week, I was on a small plane up to Rochester and I was surrounded on all six sides.

00:22:35.000 By Trump supporters, which is almost my definition of hell.

00:22:38.000 It's close.

00:22:40.000 The only thing worse would be six Obama supporters or six Hillary supporters, which is every flight into California.

00:22:45.000 But I'm surrounded by Trump supporters, and they're talking about why is Trump great.

00:22:48.000 He's going to bring industry back.

00:22:50.000 How's he going to bring industry back?

00:22:51.000 Well, he's in Rochester, and he says he's going to bring industry back because he's going to hit individual companies with a 35% tax until they agree to return and create jobs.

00:23:01.000 He's basically gonna, he's gonna hit them in presumably economic fascist modality.

00:23:05.000 He's gonna hit them until they come back. 0.73

00:23:07.000 Which, by the way, is a success as we all know from our personal lives. 0.97

00:23:10.000 The best way to get somebody to love you is to hit them as often as possible.

00:23:14.000 If you really want your spouse to stay and your spouse wants to leave, the best way to get her to stay is just to hit her with a frying pan. 0.73

00:23:19.000 And the same thing is true on economics, right?

00:23:21.000 If you really want a company to stay and hire people, the best thing you can do is threaten to find them enormous amounts of money and hit them with tremendous taxes.

00:23:31.000 Trump and Bernie Sanders are very much aligned on this kind of stuff.

00:23:34.000 So Bernie Sanders has been very anti-trade for a long time.

00:23:37.000 Trump apparently believes in something called dependency theory, and this is important stuff.

00:23:42.000 Dependency theory is an idea of economics that was pushed by the Marxist left in South America particularly, and it suggested that the outside world was infiltrating and destroying domestic

00:23:54.000 South American businesses through trade that these companies were coming in and they were building factories and they were and they were and they were usurping the natural resources in the labor base and then they were exporting all of the basic materials back to where they came from and making the the nice products and then sending them back and reimporting them.

00:24:11.000 So

00:24:12.000 This dependency theory idea, they call it neocolonialism, because way back in the day, you'd have the British government go to someplace in Africa, and instead of manufacturing chess boards in Africa, they would take all the wood, ship it back to Britain, make the chess boards, re-import them into Africa, right?

00:24:27.000 So the idea was raw materials get shipped out,

00:24:29.000 And this creates dependency because now we're dependent on these other countries for creating the chess boards and building our businesses, which is called trade.

00:24:36.000 I mean, you're always dependent on the person with whom you are trading, right?

00:24:39.000 And so what the Latin Americans did, what the South Americans did, is they installed all these massive trade barriers. 0.81

00:24:45.000 They said, we're not going to let business come in here unless they basically pay a giant fine. 0.61

00:24:49.000 And unless they do not leave, right?

00:24:51.000 We're just going to keep them here.

00:24:53.000 And we're going to make sure that when they try to re-import things, we charge lots of money.

00:24:56.000 And we'll build up our domestic business here.

00:24:59.000 We'll make chess boards here, right?

00:25:00.000 We'll make chess boards here.

00:25:02.000 Only one problem.

00:25:02.000 They're really crappy at making chess boards, right?

00:25:04.000 They're really crappy at making it.

00:25:05.000 It was inefficient.

00:25:06.000 They'd be better off just developing other industries in that particular state.

00:25:11.000 And so what ended up happening is they bankrupted their country. 0.99

00:25:13.000 Dependency theory is the stupidest form of economics available. 1.00

00:25:16.000 Donald Trump buys into this. 0.98

00:25:17.000 He thinks that every time we trade with somebody from China, every time a private company makes a trade with a company in China, that China is somehow defeating us and making us dependent on China.

00:25:27.000 China's just as dependent on us.

00:25:29.000 In a trade, there are two partners.

00:25:31.000 But the idea is that by cutting off the trade, we will bring those businesses back here. 1.00

00:25:35.000 Okay, let's say we bring the t-shirt manufacturing business back from Vietnam.

00:25:39.000 How many people is that going to hire?

00:25:40.000 What's the pay going to be like?

00:25:41.000 Are people really willing to pay $125 for a $5 t-shirt without designer labels on it?

00:25:47.000 What are people willing to do?

00:25:49.000 This is Trump's view of trade.

00:25:50.000 He wants to build a giant economic wall that keeps businesses stuck in the United States, and he wants to build a giant physical wall that keeps immigrants out of the United States.

00:25:58.000 There's something to be said for the giant physical wall, because otherwise we can't keep track of the immigration, but the economic wall is doomed to disaster.

00:26:05.000 But again, Trump has no knowledge.

00:26:06.000 He doesn't have to have knowledge.

00:26:07.000 This is all appealing to a very particular group of voters.

00:26:10.000 Okay, now, time to move over to the other side of the aisle, where one of the most amusing things in the world is happening, and it's truly, truly amusing.

00:26:18.000 And it's sad, actually.

00:26:20.000 And that is, the Hillary-Bill marriage of convenience is beginning to shred and fray.

00:26:27.000 For a long time, for many, many years, ever since the last time they had sex, which was the conception of Chelsea, this has been purely a marriage of convenience.

00:26:36.000 And probably was since the beginning.

00:26:37.000 And Hillary rode Bill's coattails to the White House, and Bill used Hillary as his beard so that he could do whatever he felt like doing.

00:26:44.000 And then the trade was that eventually Hillary would ride his coattails, and she would go all the way to the White House on his coattails. 1.00

00:26:50.000 Now, part of that deal was going to be that Bill was going to be a half-decent president, he was going to govern as a quasi-moderate, and then Hillary was going to run off the legacy of Bill's presidency and say, if you want the good old Clinton days of yore, all you need to do is vote me back into the White House. 1.00

00:27:05.000 But something along the road happened.

00:27:08.000 What happened is that the left in America decided not to move toward Clintonian moderation.

00:27:12.000 They decided to move instead toward radical left, Bernie Sanders-type gobbledygook.

00:27:17.000 And so Hillary has been forced to move radically to the left, radically to the left. 1.00

00:27:21.000 And that means she's had to disown the actual key achievements of her husband.

00:27:25.000 So Bill, who's rightly proud of the fact that he signed into law a criminal justice reform bill that helped lead, at least in part,

00:27:34.000 To the greatest decrease in crime in modern American history from 1994 to 2010, right?

00:27:39.000 She's now denouncing that.

00:27:41.000 She's denounced welfare reform, which got millions and millions of people off the welfare rolls and into jobs.

00:27:46.000 She's denounced even his budgeting process because he should have spent more on social services, right?

00:27:51.000 She's gone after all of the things, all of the things that Bill Clinton once stood for, and he's humiliated because he has two choices.

00:27:57.000 He can either stand up for his legacy, or he can be completely emasculated by this woman. 1.00

00:28:02.000 And you can see how torn he is.

00:28:05.000 Here's Hillary ripping into Bill's crime bill. 1.00

00:28:07.000 By the way, ripping into Bill's crime bill at a time when crime is skyrocketing in major American cities across the country. 1.00

00:28:13.000 If Ted Cruz or Donald Trump, if the Republican does not run on crime, the Republican is stupid. 1.00

00:28:18.000 Like, seriously dumb. 1.00

00:28:19.000 Crime rates have risen by double digits. 0.99

00:28:20.000 Violent crime rates have risen by double digits in virtually every major metropolitan American area.

00:28:25.000 Virtually all of them.

00:28:27.000 And the reason for that

00:28:28.000 Because the left has decided that the police have to be pulled out of broken windows policing, right, going after small offenses, and they have to stop, stop, and frisk, and they have to ensure that the police don't do their jobs on small offenses, and the left has simultaneously suggested we let a bunch of criminals out of prison, like here in California, we've had prison realignment, we've defined deviancy down, so crimes that used to be considered felonies are misdemeanors, and misdemeanors are considered nothing.

00:28:52.000 All of this is leading to tremendous increases in crime, which is a quality of life issue.

00:28:57.000 Meanwhile, Hillary is blasting Bill for having put too many criminals in prison because she's been forced to the left by the radical Democratic base, which has been living off the goodness and surplus of America's low crime rate for the last 20 years.

00:29:10.000 Here's Hillary ripping her own husband's crime bill. 1.00

00:29:13.000 That we should all be listening to each other.

00:29:15.000 And I certainly have been listening.

00:29:16.000 On the very first day of this campaign, I gave a speech about criminal justice reform and ending the era of mass incarceration.

00:29:25.000 I have been consistently speaking out about what I would do as president.

00:29:29.000 And I think it's important for people to recognize we have work to do.

00:29:34.000 That there were a lot of people very scared.

00:29:39.000 Concerned about high crime back in the day.

00:29:43.000 And now we've got to say, okay, we have to deal with the consequences.

00:29:47.000 And one of the consequences is, in my view, over-incarceration of people who should not have been in the criminal justice system.

00:29:54.000 They have an addiction problem, a mental health problem.

00:29:56.000 They have committed a low-level offense, a non-violent offense.

00:30:00.000 So I want to divert people from the criminal justice system and from being incarcerated.

00:30:05.000 And I want to do more

00:30:06.000 If people are in corrections institutes to help them while they're there, and I want to do more to help them when they get out, re-enter into society.

00:30:14.000 Okay, this is all very pretty talk.

00:30:15.000 Heather MacDonald has a great new book that's coming out shortly called The War on Cops.

00:30:19.000 And she talks about all of the myths that are inherent here.

00:30:22.000 The era of mass incarceration.

00:30:24.000 Which innocent people are in prison?

00:30:26.000 Can she name any?

00:30:27.000 Can she name any of the innocent people in prison?

00:30:29.000 When she talks about the people who are just innocent drug users, who are caught for using drugs, the actual percentage of people who are just using drugs in prison, in state prisons, is like 3%.

00:30:40.000 Almost nobody in state prisons was caught and put there just for using drugs.

00:30:44.000 And usually, it was just for using drugs while out on parole, right?

00:30:47.000 So as a condition of their parole,

00:30:48.000 They weren't supposed to use drugs, they came in, they gave a drug test, they violated their parole, they went back to prison.

00:30:53.000 The idea- and most- actually, most of the people who are put in prison for drug use are people who bargain down, they plea bargain down, right?

00:31:00.000 They were drug dealers and they plea bargain down to drug use because the system is overwhelmed, basically.

00:31:06.000 But there's this myth out there that there's this vast underclass of people who have just been imprisoned thanks to the drug laws and that's really what's behind all of this.

00:31:14.000 Of the people who have been put in prison, additionally, the increase in prisoners, the vast majority of those people are there for violent crimes or property crimes.

00:31:22.000 Only 16% of that increase comes from drug crimes.

00:31:26.000 And the vast majority of those are drug dealers.

00:31:28.000 But Hillary is saying, let's let all those people out. 0.96

00:31:30.000 And she's saying, oh, we used to be scared of crime.

00:31:32.000 There's no reason to be scared of crime anymore.

00:31:33.000 Really?

00:31:34.000 There's no reason to be scared of crime anymore.

00:31:36.000 Ask the people in New York City who are now seeing a double-digit increase in violent crime.

00:31:42.000 Ask the people in LA who saw, I think last year, significantly more than a 15% increase in the murder rate.

00:31:47.000 See if it affects those people.

00:31:49.000 But Hillary has to run. 1.00

00:31:50.000 The left is so radical now, they would rather let the prisoners out.

00:31:53.000 This is just a rehash of the 60s.

00:31:54.000 Okay, there's a rehash of the 60s.

00:31:56.000 The crime rates in the United States rose through the 20s, they rose through most of the 30s, and then, as World War II hit, they proceeded to drop from basically 1941 all the way until the mid-1960s.

00:32:07.000 And then, the War on Poverty hit, the welfare programs hit, the...

00:32:11.000 Deinstitutionalization of criminals hit, and boom, the crime rate skyrockets.

00:32:15.000 From 1960 to 1990, the crime rate rises 400%.

00:32:18.000 400%.

00:32:18.000 People were rightly upset about crime, and they're rightly upset about crime now.

00:32:23.000 And if the Republican doesn't take advantage of this, they're foolish. 0.99

00:32:26.000 Now you can see, for Bill, this is really rough. 0.99

00:32:29.000 I mean, this is really rough. 1.00

00:32:30.000 Bill has significantly more pangs of conscience over having to back his wife's stupidity on crime to get her elected than he ever did about cheating on her. 0.99

00:32:37.000 Here's Bill, trying to- and you can see how torn he is. 0.99

00:32:40.000 Trying to repudiate his own legacy on crime in order to push forward his wife to the presidency.

00:32:47.000 So these two women in the crowd got up and started screaming that they were angry about the crime bill by itself. 1.00

00:32:55.000 And that I was responsible for mass incarceration.

00:32:59.000 Which is interesting since Hillary was the first candidate to say there are too many young people

00:33:07.000 In prison for too long for non-violent offenses, and we need to let them out.

00:33:11.000 She's the first person to stand up to that.

00:33:16.000 But, what the women were referring to was the crime bill last time, and now Vice President Biden sponsored that.

00:33:28.000 And it is true it had longer sentencing provisions.

00:33:32.000 It is true that they led

00:33:35.000 To some people going to jail for too long in ways that cannot be justified.

00:33:41.000 And I went to the NAACP convention last year and said that, and said it was way past time to change, but pointed out just as Hillary did, you can't just let these kids out of prison unless they have education, training, job placement, transition support, so they don't turn around and go back in.

00:34:11.000 People who get out of prison like this, they tend to be career criminals, and then they go and they commit crimes.

00:34:17.000 And when he says things like, well, we need better occupational training.

00:34:21.000 They've had these programs for literally years in the prisons.

00:34:24.000 They don't do anything.

00:34:25.000 They don't do anything.

00:34:26.000 There are a couple of theories as to what you can do with prisoners so that you don't have to keep them there forever.

00:34:31.000 One of the theories is that you can have a system where if you do actually commit a low-level crime, there's not even a trial, basically.

00:34:37.000 You just pick them up for parole violation and they will go to jail.

00:34:40.000 There's a difference between jail and prison.

00:34:42.000 Jail is short-term, prison is long-term.

00:34:44.000 They go to like a holding cell for a couple of days and they know for sure that they're going to end up there if they're caught with drugs, for example.

00:34:50.000 And it turns out that people don't like doing that, and so they don't do that.

00:34:53.000 Punishment has to be swift, and it has to be immediate, and it has to be invariable, right?

00:34:57.000 That's the idea.

00:34:58.000 And Heather McDonald talks about this.

00:35:00.000 But, the idea that we have to let lots of people out of prison, and there will be no concomitant increase in the crime rate, 0.97

00:35:06.000 It's idiocy, but this is what the left has to do now. 0.98

00:35:07.000 The left has gone fully at war with reality. 1.00

00:35:11.000 Fully at war with reality.

00:35:12.000 Joanne Reed is a commentator.

00:35:13.000 I think she's on NBC.

00:35:15.000 She says that Hillary is now having to live through the repudiation of Bill's presidency, and that's basically right.

00:35:21.000 Did Bill Clinton miss the memo?

00:35:23.000 Yeah.

00:35:23.000 Very awkward.

00:35:23.000 On how to talk about his crime bill that everybody is now repudiating?

00:35:27.000 Yeah, very awkward.

00:35:28.000 They're a group called the Philly Coalition for Real Justice.

00:35:30.000 It was a pair of people who said themselves they are not part of Black Lives Matter.

00:35:34.000 That said, the problem with Bill Clinton's origin and the problem with the way that he defended himself was that he was defending himself.

00:35:41.000 And that Bill Clinton, I think, is living emotionally through the repudiation of much of his legacy.

00:35:46.000 Whether it's on LGBT rights, or whether it's on this crime bill, or on criminal justice, his legacy is being re-litigated in the negative, and I think it's hard for him to deal with it.

00:35:55.000 But what he didn't understand is, in the role of surrogate, it is not your job to defend yourself, and this complicated bill that has no clean hands!

00:36:02.000 And he took the bait of the protest.

00:36:05.000 Okay, and she's right, but that's because the left has moved so far to the left.

00:36:09.000 Because that was actually a good thing Bill Clinton did.

00:36:11.000 Right?

00:36:11.000 Let's admit that that was a good thing that Bill Clinton did.

00:36:13.000 Keeping criminals in prison for committing repeat crimes and having mandatory minimum sentences for those criminals was a good thing.

00:36:20.000 And you want to ask the people who think it's a good thing?

00:36:22.000 Talk to the black people who are still alive because of this.

00:36:24.000 Because it's not the people in Beverly Hills who disproportionately benefited from these measures.

00:36:29.000 It was the people who are living in the inner city in South L.A.

00:36:32.000 who didn't have to worry about their kids sleeping in bathtubs and being shot at.

00:36:36.000 Literally, there was a period in American history in the 1980s where little black children were sleeping in bathtubs because they were so afraid of drive-bys.

00:36:44.000 Because the bathtubs were made of porcelain, so if they got shot at, then presumably it would block the bullets.

00:36:49.000 We're seeing the increase in murder happening in New Orleans, in Chicago, in Washington D.C., in L.A., in New York, all over the United States.

00:36:56.000 All over the United States because the left has moved so far to the left.

00:36:59.000 And now Hillary has had to reflect Bernie Sanders to the point where Bill de Blasio, who truly is responsible,

00:37:05.000 For the ongoing destruction of a city that had cleaned itself up.

00:37:09.000 The reason Rudy Giuliani became mayor of New York City originally is because the crime rate was so high.

00:37:14.000 The quality of life issues in New York were so bad that that's why they made Escape from New York with Kurt Russell.

00:37:20.000 The original reason they made that was a science fiction movie where they turned Manhattan into basically a giant prison.

00:37:26.000 The reason that they did that is because the New York crime rates were so bad.

00:37:30.000 Bill de Blasio comes in, he undoes everything, everything that Rudy Giuliani was doing.

00:37:35.000 He undoes the stop and frisk, he undoes the heavier policing, the community policing, he undoes all of these things because Bill de Blasio is basically a communist.

00:37:45.000 And by the way, for all the people who think stop and frisk

00:37:49.000 Was some sort of racially biased attempt to get black and Hispanic people?

00:37:53.000 From January to June 2008, from January to June 2008, six month period, just any six month period, 98%, 98, 98% of all gun assailants in New York City were black or Hispanic.

00:38:05.000 Stop and Frisk targeted 85% black and Hispanic.

00:38:08.000 They under-profiled, they under-profiled.

00:38:11.000 It just turns out that when you are imprisoning people who commit crimes, too many minority people are committing crimes. 0.77

00:38:16.000 Don't wanna go to jail as a minority? 1.00

00:38:17.000 I have a solution.

00:38:19.000 Don't be a criminal.

00:38:20.000 Don't be a criminal.

00:38:21.000 But the left doesn't accept this.

00:38:22.000 So Bill de Blasio, Hillary's moved to the left, and now Bill de Blasio, who's basically an open communist, you would think he would endorse Bernie Sanders, right?

00:38:29.000 I mean, Bernie Sanders, the guy who literally tweeted yesterday, Bernie Sanders tweeted yesterday, he thinks that banks should not be in the business of profits, they should be in the business of providing affordable loans.

00:38:39.000 Which was why we had a subprime mortgage meltdown, folks.

00:38:42.000 Because the banks were in the business of providing affordable loans backed by the federal government.

00:38:46.000 Bill de Blasio, instead of backing Sanders, he backs Hillary.

00:38:48.000 Because the mainstream left has now moved so far, this is what I don't want to see on the right, the mainstream left has moved so far to the left that Hillary is now part of the communist socialist Bill de Blasio movement.

00:38:59.000 On the right, what I don't want to see is the mainstream conservative movement move so far to Trumpism that now they're part and parcel of the ideologically incoherent, big man, great leader politics of Donald Trump.

00:39:11.000 Here's Bill de Blasio endorsing Hillary Clinton.

00:39:14.000 I have great respect for both these candidates.

00:39:16.000 But Hillary is a person who can get things done, the kinds of things we need in this country. 0.69

00:39:21.000 Look, we have to tax the wealthy, we have to raise wages and benefits, we need things like universal pre-k nationwide.

00:39:28.000 Hillary's the person who actually knows how to get things like that done, and that's what voters are looking for. 1.00

00:39:33.000 They're looking for change in this country, but it has to be practical, it has to be real.

00:39:38.000 It has to be practical, it has to be real, and so he's voting for the lady who's lying about everything.

00:39:42.000 That's what they do now.

00:39:44.000 And by the way, you want to talk about a rigged game?

00:39:46.000 The real rigged game in American politics is the idea that Hillary's not going to go to prison. 1.00

00:39:50.000 The Obama administration, it's now clear, the Obama administration has come out and declared

00:39:54.000 It's over for this whole investigation.

00:39:56.000 This investigation is over.

00:39:58.000 Hillary has been cleared.

00:39:59.000 She's now part of the Great Maw of the far left, and we must protect her at all costs.

00:40:04.000 Watch these two clips back-to-back.

00:40:05.000 Here's Barack Obama suggesting that the Justice Department will not protect Hillary Clinton, that she's gonna undergo a fair process.

00:40:11.000 Here's Obama, then we'll get to Hillary. 1.00

00:40:14.000 We're talking about a tiny

00:40:18.000 Some people, I think, are worried whether or not the decision, whether or not

00:40:36.000 How to handle the case will be made on political grounds, not legal grounds.

00:40:40.000 Can you guarantee to the American people, can you direct the Justice Department to say, Hillary Clinton will be treated as the evidence goes, she will not be in any way protected?

00:40:53.000 I can guarantee that.

00:40:54.000 And I can guarantee that not because I give

00:41:00.000 Attorney General Lynch directive, that is institutionally how we have always operated.

00:41:07.000 I do not talk to the Attorney General about pending investigations.

00:41:12.000 I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations.

00:41:17.000 We have a strict line and always have maintained it, previous presidents.

00:41:22.000 So, just to button this up.

00:41:24.000 I guarantee it.

00:41:25.000 I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department or the FBI, not just in this case, but in any case.

00:41:36.000 Full stop.

00:41:37.000 Period.

00:41:37.000 Guaranteed.

00:41:37.000 Full stop.

00:41:41.000 Nobody gets treated differently when it comes to the Justice Department.

00:41:44.000 Nobody gets treated differently by the Justice Department.

00:41:47.000 Nobody's above the law.

00:41:48.000 Nobody gets treated differently by the Justice Department except for like Lois Lerner over at the IRS or let's say the DOJ sending actual representatives to the funeral of criminal thug Michael Brown who tried to murder a police officer or perhaps sending various representatives all over the country to target police departments for no reason.

00:42:06.000 Do you know what I hear a lot?

00:42:07.000 They are clinging to the hope that the way they'll be able to deal with that is that at some point between now and the election,

00:42:28.000 And they say this, they say this, that they will get to see Hillary Clinton in handcuffs.

00:42:33.000 Oh my goodness!

00:42:34.000 That there will be some kind of political perp walk based on your privacy.

00:42:39.000 Well, Matt, I know that they live in that world of fantasy and hope because they've got a mess on their hands on the Republican side.

00:42:47.000 That is not going to happen.

00:42:48.000 There is not even the remotest chance that it's going to happen.

00:42:51.000 But look, they've been after me, as I say, for 25 years and they have said things about me repeatedly.

00:42:58.000 They're after me.

00:42:59.000 They've been trying to get me.

00:43:00.000 Those coppers, they've been trying to get me for years and they can't get me. 1.00

00:43:03.000 I love Matt Lauer saying that they want to see a political perp walk.

00:43:06.000 No, we'd actually just like to see a perp walk.

00:43:07.000 It's you who are adding political because you love Hillary Clinton so much and you're eating with her at a diner apparently.

00:43:13.000 Okay, so that's the story on the left side of the aisle.

00:43:17.000 Hillary has engaged in the full left, and now the full left will embrace her with all the power of government surrounding them, and it is amazing.

00:43:24.000 Okay, time for a couple of things that I like, and then a couple of things that I hate.

00:43:29.000 First of all, things that I like.

00:43:30.000 There's a new book out called... I'm just telling you what I'm reading now.

00:43:33.000 I give you my reading list now.

00:43:34.000 So there's a book by George Gilder, who's a tremendous author, called The Scandal of Money.

00:43:38.000 I'm in the middle of that one right now, and I will tell you how it is.

00:43:41.000 But all of his other books are excellent.

00:43:43.000 Knowledge and Power is a really good book.

00:43:45.000 And the Wealth and Poverty is a very good book.

00:43:47.000 George Gilder is a very, very solid thinker.

00:43:50.000 So I'll tell you how that one is going.

00:43:51.000 I'm also in the middle of a book by Ryan Anderson about traditional marriage and the Supreme Court's decision on that, so I'll let you know how that goes.

00:43:59.000 And so that's what's on my nightstand at current time.

00:44:02.000 Here's a little light reading.

00:44:04.000 And finally, some things that I hate.

00:44:06.000 So, a couple of quick things that I hate.

00:44:08.000 First of all,

00:44:10.000 I just want to note, there's this whole meme now that's going around, the Trump support, that I am a paid shill for Cruz, right?

00:44:16.000 That the Cruz campaign is paying me or the Cruz super PACs are paying me.

00:44:20.000 I've never received a dollar from either of those two entities.

00:44:24.000 What they're really saying is that the Wilkses own the Daily Wire and the Wilkses are big donors to the Cruz campaign.

00:44:29.000 This is true.

00:44:30.000 They're big donors to a Cruz super PAC, the Wilkses. 1.00

00:44:33.000 Here is why this argument is idiotic. 0.99

00:44:35.000 First of all, when we created the Daily Wire, we looked for investors. 0.99

00:44:40.000 Some of the investors we went to were the Wilkses.

00:44:43.000 The reason being that we went to people who are ideologically aligned.

00:44:46.000 Just like any other company, you go for funding to the people with whom you are ideologically aligned.

00:44:50.000 I didn't bother going over to Warren Buffett looking for funding for Daily Wire because that would be a waste of time.

00:44:55.000 I didn't stop by Arianna Huffington's offices.

00:44:57.000 I went to the people with whom I'm ideologically aligned.

00:45:00.000 And I can tell you this, the folks who own The Daily Wire, the people who fund The Daily Wire, they have never, ever, at any point, given any editorial input as to what I put on the page.

00:45:09.000 And the clarity is this, I mean, I've been writing the same kind of stuff, and I was writing the same kind of stuff for Breitbart, right, which is a very pro-Trump website, up until the point where I quit because their bias became overwhelming to the point of undercutting their own reporter, as I said at the time.

00:45:24.000 So the idea is that I'm bought and paid for.

00:45:26.000 This is a Trump thing.

00:45:27.000 Okay, so here's how Trump operates.

00:45:29.000 All of the things that Trump is, that's what you are.

00:45:32.000 Right? 1.00

00:45:32.000 So Trump is corrupt. 1.00

00:45:33.000 That means that if you oppose Trump, he will say that you are corrupt. 0.99

00:45:37.000 Trump believes that all women adore him. 0.92

00:45:39.000 He treats women badly.

00:45:41.000 And so Trump thinks, 1.00

00:45:42.000 That all women who don't like him, right, his surrogates say all women who don't like him are basically having sex with Ted Cruz, right? 1.00

00:45:47.000 Amanda Carpenter and Mary Catherine Hamm and Alicia Krauss and Dana Lash, they're all having sex with Ted Cruz. 0.99

00:45:51.000 That's the only reason they wouldn't be attracted to the sausage-like fingers of Donald Trump, right? 0.99

00:45:57.000 That's the only reason.

00:45:58.000 And because Donald Trump is a political John, and he has said many times that he basically buys and sells people ten times over, and this is what he does, he believes that everybody is for sale.

00:46:06.000 So it's not just me.

00:46:07.000 Mark Levin is for- This is what Roger Stone writes.

00:46:09.000 Mark Levin was for sale, and Eric Erickson was for sale, and I'm for sale, and everybody's for sale.

00:46:15.000 Everybody's- So I have a question for Trump.

00:46:17.000 I'm right here.

00:46:18.000 My email address is bshapiro at dailywire.com.

00:46:20.000 You wanna try and buy me?

00:46:21.000 Let's do this thing.

00:46:22.000 Really, make me an offer.

00:46:23.000 Make me an offer, because if you're this great dealmaker, if everybody is for sale, if I'm that corrupt, I haven't gotten any checks from Donald Trump, and I haven't seen any offers from Donald Trump, so let's see how mercenary I am. 0.67

00:46:34.000 Let's see if I'm willing to take money from people I find despicable, like Donald Trump. 0.89

00:46:40.000 He must be a really crappy dealmaker, since everybody's for sale, but he seems to have missed some of the biggies when it came to buying them out. 0.95

00:46:47.000 This whole thing is silliness, but again, Donald Trump's people project, right? 0.98

00:46:51.000 If you oppose Donald Trump, you are all the things Donald Trump actually is, namely a political whore who's willing to go where he gets support and willing to say anything to get where he needs to go, right? 0.97

00:47:00.000 And if you are a Donald Trump backer and you're in this sort of like bizarre 0.98

00:47:03.000 Homoerotic fantasy with Donald Trump where he pats you on the head and like you're his child but simultaneously you're attracted to his mighty mightiness.

00:47:12.000 You're super attracted to his ginormous masculinity and his magical hands.

00:47:16.000 Then it must be that if you oppose Trump it must be because you have some sort of pathological issue you're being paid off. 0.98

00:47:23.000 It's silly. 0.99

00:47:23.000 So that's a thing I hate. 0.99

00:47:25.000 Final thing I hate.

00:47:25.000 John Kasich.

00:47:27.000 Oh no.

00:47:27.000 Oh god no.

00:47:28.000 John Kasich.

00:47:29.000 John Kasich is still in this race.

00:47:30.000 No one knows why.

00:47:32.000 No one.

00:47:33.000 John Kasich doesn't know why.

00:47:35.000 You don't know why.

00:47:36.000 I don't know why.

00:47:36.000 No one knows why.

00:47:38.000 Not your god knows why.

00:47:40.000 God's omnipotence ended with trying to understand the mind of John Kasich.

00:47:43.000 So the Ohio governor...

00:47:46.000 No one knows why he's here or what he's doing, but John Kasich is supposedly a Republican, and he lords his supposed religiosity over everybody.

00:47:56.000 Obviously, I'm a deeply religious person.

00:47:58.000 That's why I wear this funny beanie on the top of my head, because I'm a deeply religious Jew.

00:48:02.000 John Kasich says he's a deeply religious Christian, which is why he wants to expand the power of government, right?

00:48:06.000 He's real big on the government has to fill the moral void.

00:48:10.000 So he was asked on national TV about some of these religious freedom laws that now exist in North Carolina and exist in... They tried to pass it in Georgia.

00:48:17.000 They've passed it in Mississippi, right?

00:48:19.000 These laws basically say if you're a religious person, then you get to be religious in the workplace.

00:48:24.000 You don't have to serve people

00:48:26.000 For whom it's a sin to serve, right?

00:48:28.000 That's the idea.

00:48:30.000 And I've said before, I don't think this is a purely religious argument.

00:48:33.000 I believe that you should have the right to refuse service to whomever you want.

00:48:36.000 And if we don't like that you're refusing service to somebody, we just won't shop with you, right?

00:48:40.000 We'll use the power of the market.

00:48:42.000 Here is John Kasich saying these laws are unnecessary and ripping into religious people for abiding by their own religious standards.

00:48:47.000 John Kasich.

00:48:49.000 I mean, look, we are not having this issue in our state about this whole religious liberty.

00:48:55.000 I believe that religious institutions ought to be protected and be able to be in a position of where they can live out their deeply held religious purposes.

00:49:08.000 But when you get beyond that, it gets to be a tricky issue.

00:49:12.000 And tricky is not the right word, but it can become a contentious issue.

00:49:16.000 But in our state, we're not facing this.

00:49:19.000 So everybody needs to take a deep breath, respect one another, and...

00:49:23.000 The minute we start trying to write laws, things become more polarized, they become more complicated.

00:49:29.000 Obviously, I don't want to force people to violate their deeply held religious convictions, but we'd have to see what that's all about.

00:49:36.000 I wouldn't have signed a law from everything I know.

00:49:38.000 I haven't studied it.

00:49:39.000 But Nathan Deal, the governor of Georgia, vetoed another one.

00:49:43.000 And, look, you've just got to see what the laws are and what the proposals are and why you need to write a law.

00:49:49.000 Why do we have to write a law every time we turn around in this country?

00:49:53.000 Can't we figure out just how to get along a little bit better and respect one another?

00:49:58.000 I mean, that's where I think we ought to be.

00:50:00.000 Everybody, chill out, get over it if you have a disagreement with somebody.

00:50:04.000 So, that's where I am right now, John, and unless there's something that pops up, I'm not inclined to sign anything.

00:50:11.000 He's not gonna sign anything, that's where we are.

00:50:13.000 That religious stuff, it's mumbo-jumbo, this religious stuff.

00:50:16.000 Okay, the reason this came up in the first place is because gay and lesbian activists decided to make an issue of religious business owners not wanting to service their same-sex weddings, not wanting to serve their same-sex weddings, and therefore, there were laws passed attempting to protect those people.

00:50:29.000 John Kasich says that's unnecessary, because truly religious people would violate their religious prescriptions at pretty much every turn, because that would be the nice thing to do.

00:50:38.000 Forgive me if I don't like John Kasich's brands of theocracy.

00:50:42.000 I think that it's galling and I think that it's gross. 0.51

00:50:45.000 John Kasich, also a small raisin of a head person, and just as Ace of Spades put it about John Kasich, a man who looks like his face went through the wash twice in your pocket. 0.71

00:50:57.000 That's somebody who I find unpalatable, and that right there in a nutshell is why I find John Kasich unpalatable.

00:51:03.000 The guise of niceness underneath is this philosophy of government totalitarianism, that the government can force you to do pretty much anything.

00:51:12.000 Okay, well, we will be back tomorrow with more uplifting news of the day, and make sure that you go over to Andrew Klavan's podcast to make you really feel better after this.

00:51:19.000 That's how this works, right?

00:51:20.000 I make you all depressed, and then Klavan makes you feel better about your life. 0.89

00:51:23.000 As I like to say, my show is, we're all in hell together, let's enjoy it.

00:51:27.000 And Clavin says, I'll bring the popsicles.

00:51:28.000 That's pretty much how the shows go.

00:51:30.000 So make sure that you tune in for that.

00:51:32.000 It's great to start the week with you.

00:51:33.000 Thanks for showing up.

00:51:34.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:51:35.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - April 11, 2016

Ep. 102 - Trump's Very Good Brain Doesn't Know How Delegates Work

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