The Ben Shapiro Show - April 18, 2016


Ep. 106 - Do Americans Want A Dictator?


Episode Stats

Length

52 minutes

Words per Minute

200.52681

Word Count

10,531

Sentence Count

818

Misogynist Sentences

36

Hate Speech Sentences

28


Summary

The left is coming for the First Amendment. They think their agenda justifies getting rid of free speech and crushing freedom of association and punishing freedom of religion. Here are three of the latest indicators that the left wants to destroy the first amendment wholesale: George Clooney's call to overturn Citizens United, Prosecuting people for giving to causes, and North Carolina continues to stand strong against private actors. Third, Donald Trump is about to enter a very good period for him in terms of the primaries. The New York primary is tomorrow, and then we'll get the renewed Trump momentum going and it'll turn into Trump v the world. And this is the conversation that Trump wants to have, right here at the end of the day. And that's the conversation he's been trying to have for a long time, and it's going to have a big impact on the outcome of the primary race. It's a Monday, and I'm depressed, and so are you. But there's one reason not to be depressed, which makes me happy, because as we all know, I'm the depressing show, right? I'm a depressing show where you go if you want to feel better about life, and a place to remind you that we all die, and life is meaningless, and that you should be feeling better about it. Ben Shapiro - The Ben Shapiro Show, wherever you can get your fix of the depressing stuff, and you need to go to be better than you are now. - Clavin' - It's Monday! - Ben Shapiro's new book, The Dark Side of the Dark Side - Book Recommendations: A Guide to Trump's New York Times Bestseller, The Man Who Couldn't Read It? - Myths, Myths and Myths That Don't Care About Trump, by Ben Shapiro, by John McCain, by David Rothkopf, by John Rocha, Jr., and I'll Tell You What's True About It, by Michael Bloomberg, by Robert Downey Jr., Jr., and I Can't Stop Me Now by David Axelrod, and so much more! is out now! Thanks to Ben Shapiro for being a good friend of mine, Ben Shapiro and I hope you'll listen to this podcast, Ben is a good guy, and Ben Shapiro is a great guy, too! and he's not going to let me burn crap down.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The left is coming for the First Amendment.
00:00:02.000 So they claim that they're all for freedoms of speech and association and religion, and that's crap, because the left believes equality of feelings trumps constitutional liberty.
00:00:11.000 They think their agenda justifies getting rid of free speech and crushing freedom of association,
00:00:16.000 And punishing freedom of religion.
00:00:18.000 So here are three of the latest indicators that the left wants to destroy the First Amendment wholesale.
00:00:23.000 So number one, stopping citizens from being politically involved.
00:00:27.000 On Sunday, noted political commentator, all-around overrated actor, terrible Batman George Clooney appeared on Meet the Press to discuss a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton.
00:00:37.000 At that fundraiser, he charged $353,000.
00:00:41.000 To be an event co-chair, which just sounds like that's totally worth the money.
00:00:45.000 He blasted the Citizens United decision which unleashed the power of the First Amendment for those who wish to give money to political causes.
00:00:51.000 He said, quote,
00:01:00.000 First of all, George, Citizens United is not a law.
00:01:03.000 It's a court decision.
00:01:04.000 But then Clooney added that the Bernie Sanders campaign, when they talk about it, is absolutely right.
00:01:10.000 It's ridiculous we should have this money in politics.
00:01:13.000 I agree completely, he said after finishing a dinner where he charged people $400,000 to be the co-sponsors of the dinner.
00:01:20.000 Overturning Citizens United, by the way, involves repealing the First Amendment because it turns out that you have a right to spend money on elections and so does everybody else.
00:01:27.000 Okay, number two.
00:01:28.000 Prosecuting people for giving to causes.
00:01:30.000 So on March 29th, with Al Gore looking on, more than a dozen state attorneys general, almost all Democrats, stated that they would look to prosecute the oil company Exxon for the crime of giving money
00:01:42.000 We're good.
00:01:58.000 And this is fraud.
00:01:59.000 National Review's editorial board said, quote,
00:02:20.000 Left doesn't care.
00:02:21.000 They love the idea of prosecuting political opponents and this is only the beginning.
00:02:25.000 Third way that the left is destroying the First Amendment.
00:02:28.000 Now they want to destroy people for failing to comply with the latest leftist social agenda item.
00:02:34.000 North Carolina continues to stand strong against private actors
00:02:38.000 It's going to be an ugly period for the First Amendment, folks.
00:02:41.000 Then again,
00:03:07.000 The left really hates the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th amendments particularly, so I guess the First Amendment can just kind of get in line.
00:03:15.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:03:16.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:03:25.000 It's a Monday, and I'm depressed, and so are you.
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00:04:10.000 Okay, so lots to get to today.
00:04:11.000 Lots of reasons to be depressed, which makes me happy, because as we all know,
00:04:15.000 I'm the depressing show, right?
00:04:16.000 Clavin is the one where you go if you want to feel better about life, and I'm the place to remind you that we all die and life is meaningless.
00:04:22.000 So, here's the latest alert in the we-all-die-and-life-is-meaningless sweepstakes.
00:04:27.000 Donald Trump is about to enter a very, very good period for him in terms of these primaries.
00:04:32.000 The New York primary is tomorrow.
00:04:36.000 Trump is going to sweep by all the available polls.
00:04:38.000 He'll do really well.
00:04:39.000 And then we'll get the renewed Trump momentum conversation going, and it'll turn into Trump versus the world.
00:04:44.000 And this is the conversation that Trump wants to have, right?
00:04:47.000 What Trump is doing now is he's deploying two basic arguments.
00:04:51.000 He's deploying two basic arguments.
00:04:52.000 One is, you're all cheating me.
00:04:55.000 And the other is, if you cheat me, I'm gonna burn crap down.
00:04:57.000 I mean, I'm just gonna go out there and I'm gonna burn crap down.
00:05:00.000 And his followers are willing to go along with this.
00:05:02.000 They're fine.
00:05:03.000 With the thug behavior from Donald Trump, the thug talk from Donald Trump.
00:05:07.000 And there are a couple reasons why that is, and I'll get to those in a second.
00:05:09.000 Why so many people on the right are happy with this kind of thug tyranny that Donald Trump purports to push.
00:05:19.000 And by the way, it doesn't make him a Democrat, a small-D Democrat, when he says, all of these contests are rigged, I am the people.
00:05:26.000 I am the people is a tyrant line.
00:05:29.000 If he wants to say that people's voices aren't being heard and I think they should change all of the contests so that they are perfectly proportional, that's one thing.
00:05:36.000 For him to protest against the system that was in place for a year beforehand, and he's bad at the system, for him to complain about that now is a little bit disingenuous.
00:05:44.000 But that's what Trump is saying.
00:05:45.000 Anyway, here he says the system is 100% crooked.
00:05:47.000 Not 90% crooked, 100% crooked.
00:05:51.000 But I will say this, it's a rigged system, it's a crooked system, it's a hundred percent crooked.
00:05:59.000 The bosses, is that correct?
00:06:01.000 These people know it better.
00:06:04.000 It's a crooked, they're not here for this reason, to be honest, but this is, you know, they understand law enforcement better than anybody else.
00:06:11.000 It's a corrupt and crooked system.
00:06:15.000 It's a corrupt and crooked system.
00:06:17.000 It's always this hand motion.
00:06:19.000 It's the ring, middle finger to the thumb, folks.
00:06:21.000 If you can't see this on TV, middle finger to the thumb and then first finger to the thumb and the other fingers rise.
00:06:26.000 That's the Trump motion if you're working on your Donald Trump
00:06:29.000 Impersonation.
00:06:29.000 The system is 100% crooked.
00:06:31.000 And not only is the system crooked, you know, the system that he knew about for a year, not only is the system crooked, the RNC had better revise this system, or they're gonna face a rough July.
00:06:41.000 You know that store you got?
00:06:42.000 That store?
00:06:42.000 That's a really nice store.
00:06:43.000 You know, it's very nice in here.
00:06:44.000 I gotta tell you, it's a very nice store you got here.
00:06:47.000 Well, I'd be very sorry if something should happen to your store.
00:06:50.000 I'd be very, very sorry if you were to come here one day.
00:06:52.000 And let me tell you frankly, I'd be very sorry if one day you were to come in here and the store would burn to the ground.
00:06:58.000 Wouldn't be me, I can't say, but frankly, I wouldn't be surprised.
00:07:02.000 I wouldn't be surprised, Donald Trump.
00:07:05.000 The system is a bad, bad system, and they gotta do something about it.
00:07:11.000 The Republican National Committee, they better get going, because I'll tell you what, you're gonna have a rough July at that convention.
00:07:19.000 You better get going, and you better straighten out the system, because the people want their vote.
00:07:25.000 The people want to vote, and they want to be represented properly.
00:07:33.000 The people want their vote and it'll be a rough... If the RNC should burst into flame, if explosions should happen everywhere, if people should be getting clubbed, I... I don't know.
00:07:42.000 Frankly?
00:07:42.000 What?
00:07:43.000 You know, it would happen.
00:07:45.000 I can't say it's good.
00:07:46.000 I can't say it's bad.
00:07:46.000 It's a thing.
00:07:47.000 It's a thing!
00:07:49.000 And then Donald Trump finally concludes his triumvirate of stupidity by suggesting that, yeah, the system is rigged, but don't worry, nobody has better toys than I do.
00:07:57.000 I don't know if he includes all of his former wives in this category or just material objects, but here he is.
00:08:03.000 Look, nobody has better toys than I do.
00:08:05.000 I can put them in the best planes and bring them to the best resorts anywhere in the world.
00:08:09.000 Doral, Mar-a-Lago.
00:08:11.000 I can put them in the best places in the world.
00:08:13.000 California.
00:08:13.000 I have something that blows everything away.
00:08:16.000 But it's a corrupt system.
00:08:17.000 You're basically buying these people.
00:08:19.000 You're basically saying, delegate, listen, we're going to send you to Mar-a-Lago on a Boeing 757.
00:08:26.000 You're going to use the spa.
00:08:28.000 You're going to this.
00:08:29.000 You're going to that.
00:08:30.000 We want your vote.
00:08:31.000 That's a corrupt system.
00:08:33.000 Okay, so that's a corrupt system.
00:08:34.000 So Donald Trump really, he objects to corruption, Donald Trump.
00:08:37.000 This is a guy who cares deeply about corruption and really, he's upset when people try to buy other people.
00:08:43.000 By the way, not one shred of evidence, not one.
00:08:45.000 He can't name a drink that a cruise delegate has been bought.
00:08:48.000 He can't name a plane ticket that has been bought for a cruise delegate.
00:08:51.000 He can't name any of these things.
00:08:52.000 His campaign can't.
00:08:54.000 Right, maybe it's happening, but he hasn't named any evidence of it.
00:08:57.000 He's just throwing that out there like Cruz is going around buying delegates.
00:08:59.000 But if I really wanted to, I could buy everybody, but I'm not gonna buy everybody because I, Donald J. Trump, I am a principled man.
00:09:05.000 I would never buy anyone.
00:09:07.000 Well, let's flashback just a couple of months.
00:09:09.000 Here he is talking about why he gave so much money to Democrats.
00:09:13.000 How do you... Are you worried at all that somebody who has given money to Hillary, she was at your wedding... No, I give money to everybody.
00:09:19.000 But that Republican voters in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina might be concerned about that?
00:09:22.000 No, in fact a lot of people like it.
00:09:23.000 You know, we have gridlock in Washington.
00:09:26.000 For instance, I've helped Nancy Pelosi, I've helped Reid.
00:09:31.000 I'm a business.
00:09:31.000 Right, you gave money to Reid and Pelosi to help recapture Congress in 2006.
00:09:35.000 I'm a business.
00:09:37.000 You know, I was in business.
00:09:39.000 I built a great company.
00:09:40.000 They always treated me nicely.
00:09:42.000 We need that in Washington.
00:09:43.000 We have total gridlock.
00:09:44.000 So you will argue to voters, yes, I gave money to Reid and Pelosi to help recapture Congress, but this is what we need, more bipartisan spirit.
00:09:52.000 I'm a conservative Republican.
00:09:53.000 I'm a very conservative person, actually.
00:09:55.000 But I get along with everybody.
00:09:57.000 Oh, okay.
00:09:58.000 So here it is.
00:09:58.000 He gets along with everybody.
00:10:00.000 He gives money to Democrats.
00:10:01.000 What we need is more bribery.
00:10:02.000 What we need is more bribery.
00:10:03.000 He runs a business.
00:10:04.000 Come on!
00:10:05.000 He has a business.
00:10:06.000 But when it comes to this business, this is where he draws the line, folks.
00:10:09.000 In the presidential race, this is where suddenly Donald Trump becomes a crusader against corruption and bribery.
00:10:15.000 Is right here, this is the line.
00:10:17.000 Or, maybe he just sucks at what he's doing.
00:10:20.000 And so he's looking for an excuse.
00:10:21.000 And so he's gonna hide behind the, oh people get bought but I'm not, I would never buy anyone.
00:10:25.000 Me?
00:10:26.000 Donald Trump?
00:10:26.000 I would never buy anyone!
00:10:28.000 Okay, this is the Trump game.
00:10:29.000 The Trump game is, if he's losing, he whines.
00:10:32.000 When he whines, he lies.
00:10:34.000 And then he threatens, right?
00:10:35.000 This is the Trump game.
00:10:36.000 This is how he plays it.
00:10:37.000 And no matter what the situation, it's always the same game.
00:10:40.000 He's always the victim, but he's always the bully at the same time.
00:10:42.000 He's a victim bully, right?
00:10:44.000 I'm a victim of the system, but I promise you, if I continue to be the victim of the system, I will burn down your convention.
00:10:50.000 I'll come to your convention hall.
00:10:51.000 It won't be me!
00:10:52.000 It'll be people who follow me!
00:10:53.000 I can't stop them!
00:10:55.000 It's a free country!
00:10:56.000 He did there.
00:10:57.000 And in microcosm, that's what happened with the Michelle Fields story.
00:11:00.000 So again, for people who have been under a rock for the last six weeks, Donald Trump's campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, grabbed, yanked, and bruised a reporter named Michelle Fields.
00:11:09.000 Michelle Fields talked about it.
00:11:10.000 Donald Trump's people first said that she was crazy and that she'd made it up and that they never met her.
00:11:14.000 Lewandowski claimed that he'd never touched her.
00:11:16.000 He'd never seen her.
00:11:17.000 Then the story changed to, well, maybe she was grabbed, but it wasn't a big deal.
00:11:21.000 The bruises kind of, they must have appeared.
00:11:24.000 No big deal.
00:11:25.000 Why is this a big deal?
00:11:26.000 Then it turned into Corey Lewandowski wasn't just stopping this from, wasn't just grabbing her.
00:11:32.000 He was doing it because she was a threat to Donald Trump.
00:11:34.000 So he was actually an intrepid hero.
00:11:36.000 He was a Normandy-style intrepid hero and he had to jump in.
00:11:39.000 In fact, if Corey Lewandowski had jumped in and strangled Michelle Fields to death, he would have been fully justified in order to prevent her from using, as Donald Trump called it, her little pen bomb to harm the dear leader.
00:11:50.000 Right?
00:11:50.000 And they fib about the whole thing where they say that he's shying away from her when he's clearly reaching into his pocket to take out a pen.
00:11:57.000 Okay, so they just tell all of these lies, and they lie, and they lie, but the people who back them are happy to back them all the way.
00:12:03.000 All the way.
00:12:04.000 And we'll talk about why again in a second, because this is the pattern, right?
00:12:07.000 You lose, and then you whine, or you do something wrong, and then you whine, and then you suggest that you are being lied about, and then you threaten, and then you threaten.
00:12:17.000 And that's the way this works.
00:12:17.000 So here's Michelle Fields talking about how this would have been a very easy case, except that they lied about me, and then they wouldn't apologize to me, and this could have gone away very easily.
00:12:26.000 Here she was on CNN yesterday.
00:12:27.000 Michelle, I want to ask you about Mika Brzezinski's comment, the idea this was a joke.
00:12:32.000 Was this a joke to you?
00:12:34.000 Well, I do think that this shouldn't have been such a huge story.
00:12:37.000 If I had just received an apology, as I was told I was going to receive, which is why I was quiet the first two days, this wouldn't have been a huge story.
00:12:45.000 The reason why it's such a huge story is because Cory lied.
00:12:49.000 Donald Trump lied.
00:12:50.000 They defamed me.
00:12:52.000 And they went on this huge smear campaign against me.
00:12:56.000 And I think it sheds light on the character of the campaign.
00:12:59.000 And I think a lot of people were surprised.
00:13:02.000 By their blatant lies about me.
00:13:05.000 That's why it became a huge story.
00:13:06.000 It's the defamation, not so much the grabbing of the arm.
00:13:10.000 And that's exactly right.
00:13:12.000 But, so what do they do?
00:13:13.000 They respond with more lies, right?
00:13:14.000 So here's Donald Trump talking about fields.
00:13:16.000 He says, oh, she lied.
00:13:17.000 She lied.
00:13:18.000 She's the one who lied.
00:13:18.000 Not my campaign manager, who said he never saw her and never grabbed her.
00:13:21.000 Not me, who said she made it up and she was delusional.
00:13:24.000 Right?
00:13:24.000 No, no, no.
00:13:24.000 It was her.
00:13:25.000 She's the liar, right?
00:13:26.000 It's the gaslighting.
00:13:27.000 Again, it's not that the rules of the convention are set and Donald Trump just lost.
00:13:33.000 It's not that he's losing these delegates in a process that he knew about.
00:13:37.000 It's that he's being cheated.
00:13:39.000 He's always the victim, right?
00:13:41.000 So Donald Trump is the victim of Michelle Fields, right?
00:13:43.000 Donald Trump wishes he'd been victimized by Michelle Fields.
00:13:46.000 Here's Donald Trump talking about it.
00:13:48.000 What's the role now of your previous executive?
00:13:52.000 Corey's right here.
00:13:53.000 What's his role?
00:13:54.000 Totally exonerated from that bogus nonsense from somebody that made a bogus claim.
00:13:59.000 Who, by the way, if you look at the tape, it bore no relationship to what she said happened.
00:14:04.000 And I tell you, I really have a lot of respect for the people in Florida for looking at that fairly.
00:14:12.000 I really do.
00:14:13.000 I have great respect for the prosecutor.
00:14:15.000 And for the police for taking a look at that clip and realizing that she misrepresented.
00:14:22.000 I have great respect for that.
00:14:24.000 Okay, let's stop it there.
00:14:25.000 That's an outright lie.
00:14:27.000 If you read the prosecutor's report, he didn't say that Fields misrepresented.
00:14:30.000 He said, in fact, that there is no reasonable doubt, none, that he grabbed her arm against her will, which is the element of battery.
00:14:37.000 Okay, the only thing the prosecutor said, the only rationale for why he didn't pursue it, is because he said Lewandowski had a plausible case, meaning a reasonable doubt case, that he could have been there to clear a bubble around Trump or some such nonsense.
00:14:49.000 Of course, none of this has anything to do with the fact that Trump virtually owns Jupiter.
00:14:53.000 That the prosecutor's wife, who is a PR specialist, the first picture on her website is a picture of her with Melania Trump, right?
00:15:01.000 Couldn't have anything to do with these things.
00:15:02.000 But in any case, he's lying when he says, oh, well, the tape exonerates Corey.
00:15:05.000 The tape doesn't exonerate Corey Lewandowski.
00:15:07.000 The tape shows exactly what Lewandowski was saying was a lie.
00:15:11.000 And then Lewandowski's asked about it, and Lewandowski says, I won't apologize, right?
00:15:14.000 This is their routine.
00:15:15.000 I won't apologize.
00:15:17.000 The stronger they appear, and I'll explain it in a second,
00:15:19.000 The stronger they appear, the harsher they appear, the more they lie, the more their people love them.
00:15:24.000 Because now they've been drafted into this alternative world, this magical world.
00:15:28.000 Why do people want to be part of that world?
00:15:29.000 I'll tell you why after we do a commercial, but here's Lewandowski, before we do that, saying he won't apologize to Fields under any circumstances, basically.
00:15:38.000 In the interest of avoiding unnecessary litigation, which I know Republicans don't like, are you prepared, here and now, to apologize to Ms.
00:15:46.000 Fields for touching her and for saying that she was delusional?
00:15:51.000 Well, here and now, what I'd like to say is, again, I've never spoken to Ms.
00:15:54.000 Fields.
00:15:54.000 And so, you know, I turned over my phone record to the Palm Beach County District Attorney's Office.
00:15:59.000 It clearly shows I called her phone number that evening when I got back and read about this on the Twitter feed.
00:16:05.000 I'd be happy to have a conversation with her, but to apologize to someone I've never spoken to and candidly don't ever remember having any interaction with, I think it's something that is a little unrealistic right now.
00:16:16.000 I have said and be happy to say again, this is a person I've never spoken to, but I'd be happy to have that conversation if we can put this thing behind us.
00:16:24.000 Really?
00:16:24.000 Really he'd be happy to have that conversation?
00:16:26.000 He supposedly told the prosecutors, they said this, that he was going to write an apology letter, and then he didn't do it.
00:16:31.000 Right?
00:16:31.000 And by the way, I love this, so now his news story is,
00:16:35.000 I grabbed her, and then, or I may or may not have grabbed her, I don't know, I don't remember, but I called her that night.
00:16:43.000 I called her that night, but I still didn't know her.
00:16:47.000 He literally, the day after this happened, after he supposedly called her at night, he tweeted her, I don't know you, you're making this up, you're delusional.
00:16:54.000 And he says that the records show that he calls her phone number.
00:16:57.000 Because when I call to apologize or talk to somebody, the way that I typically do it, and my wife knows this, anytime my wife and I have a fight, what I do is I get a random phone number she doesn't know, and then I call her phone number so she can't recognize the phone number, and then I make sure to not leave a message.
00:17:12.000 And then if she ever asks me, did you apologize, I say absolutely.
00:17:14.000 Look at the phone records.
00:17:16.000 Right?
00:17:16.000 The phone records show I called you.
00:17:18.000 It doesn't matter if I never left a message.
00:17:20.000 It doesn't matter if we never spoke.
00:17:21.000 What unbelievable nonsense.
00:17:23.000 And for people to believe this stuff is the part that's truly shocking.
00:17:27.000 But I'm going to explain why they believe it in just one second.
00:17:30.000 Okay, so first, Reagan.com.
00:17:32.000 If you are concerned about your privacy, if you're concerned that the government, corporations,
00:17:36.000 I don't know.
00:17:55.000 From your email to either marketing companies or to the government, that's number one.
00:17:59.000 Number two, you do have an email that ends with Reagan.com, which is pretty cool because, let's face it, Reagan was a good president and you want to be associated with that.
00:18:06.000 I mean, there's a reason why I'm not encouraging you to go to Bush.com or Obama.com, right?
00:18:10.000 I mean, let's stick with presidents who are good.
00:18:12.000 And Coolidge.com apparently wasn't available, so Reagan.com it is.
00:18:16.000 ReaganPrivacy.com is the place you want to be to guard your privacy.
00:18:19.000 Okay, so why do so many of these people
00:18:22.000 We're good.
00:18:42.000 The fact that what happened happened, I don't even think it's that big a deal either, but I think that the fact that they lie about it and smear people is a big deal.
00:18:48.000 And now they're doing it writ large.
00:18:50.000 Right?
00:18:50.000 The RNC is bad, the RNC is trying to rob us, the RNC is trying to steal it from us, and if we don't get our way, we're gonna burn down the house.
00:18:58.000 By the way, very lefty tactic.
00:18:59.000 Very lefty tactic.
00:19:00.000 The left has been doing this since the 60s.
00:19:02.000 When there were race riots in a lot of major cities, they've been saying, you don't give us our way, you don't give us our welfare dollars, you don't give us our Department of Justice, we are going to have riots in cities and we're going to burn things down, right?
00:19:13.000 They're doing it now in Ferguson and Baltimore.
00:19:16.000 That's Trump.
00:19:17.000 Trump's just doing it from the other side.
00:19:18.000 He's just doing it not for ethnic minorities, he's doing it for his own Trump base.
00:19:24.000 So the RNC is fighting back against this, and they're saying, listen, you gotta stop threatening people.
00:19:28.000 Here's Reince Priebus, who, as I say every time now, Reince Priebus looking more and more like Lando Calrissian every day, not black, but otherwise, like Lando Calrissian from Empire Strikes Back, saying this deal gets worse all the time about Donald Trump.
00:19:41.000 Here he is.
00:19:43.000 How concerned are you when Donald Trump says the RNC better be prepared for a rough July?
00:19:48.000 And are you concerned about reports of threats being made to delegates?
00:19:51.000 What do you say to any campaign doing that?
00:19:54.000 Well, sure.
00:19:55.000 I mean, look, there's no room for threatening the delegates or the convention or anybody that would be going to our national convention.
00:20:04.000 But I also think some of this is rhetoric and hyperbole, and the truth is, is that the delegates themselves are the ones that write the rules for the convention.
00:20:12.000 The RNC doesn't write any rules.
00:20:13.000 The RNC has basically an administrative role
00:20:18.000 at the convention.
00:20:19.000 It's by majority rule the delegates can run the convention.
00:20:23.000 So it's on them to decide what they want to do about a lot of these issues, not us.
00:20:28.000 Okay, so it's on them, but Trump should stop threatening?
00:20:32.000 You have no control, and Reince knows he has no control, and he looks like a deer in the headlights here.
00:20:36.000 Ted Cruz, meanwhile, he's saying, and he's playing right into Trump's game by doing this, he's saying, the way I win the nomination is we get to the first ballot, Trump loses on the first ballot, and then he starts losing votes more and more and more.
00:20:46.000 By the way, I do think this is still the most likely outcome on a percentage basis.
00:20:49.000 Trump does not make his 1,237.
00:20:51.000 The problem is, by Cruz saying openly that this is what he's shooting for, and he has to, because obviously it's the truth,
00:20:58.000 Unlike Trump, Cruz actually tells the truth a lot of the time.
00:21:01.000 Cruz says, here's how I win the nomination.
00:21:03.000 It plays right into Trump's narrative.
00:21:04.000 So here's Cruz.
00:21:06.000 If Donald is the nominee, Hillary Clinton wins.
00:21:09.000 And she wins by double digits.
00:21:12.000 And I don't believe Donald is going to be the nominee.
00:21:14.000 As I said, five states in a row, we've won landslides over and over and over again.
00:21:18.000 The stakes are too high for us to hand the election to Hillary Clinton, which is what nominating Donald Trump does.
00:21:24.000 But you can't overtake him before June.
00:21:26.000 In all likelihood, we're going to go into a contested convention, which means nobody has a majority.
00:21:30.000 And I'll have a ton of delegates, he'll have a ton of delegates.
00:21:33.000 And it's going to be a battle in Cleveland to see who can get to a majority.
00:21:37.000 You can't get the nomination without earning a majority of the delegates elected by the people.
00:21:42.000 And I believe Donald's highest total will be on that first ballot, and he will go steadily down, because Donald cannot win, and we don't want to nominate someone who's a loser in November.
00:21:54.000 Okay, and he's right.
00:21:55.000 He's right.
00:21:55.000 But it all plays into this Trump narrative that he's being screwed and he has the most votes going in.
00:22:01.000 And let's face it, people love a thug.
00:22:02.000 People love a thug.
00:22:04.000 Matthew Dowd, who knows better than this, he's on ABC News and he's supposedly a Republican strategist, he says, yeah, the system's rigged.
00:22:10.000 You know, he's totally right.
00:22:11.000 Trump is totally right.
00:22:11.000 The system's rigged.
00:22:13.000 They're right.
00:22:14.000 The system is rigged.
00:22:15.000 I mean, it was designed to be rigged.
00:22:16.000 It's been designed to be rigged, and it's rigged on both sides of the aisle in the course of this.
00:22:20.000 How the system is set up, it's not set up that is transparent, open, and to get all the voters involved in the course of this.
00:22:26.000 So they're right about that.
00:22:27.000 The RNC is also right.
00:22:29.000 And when they say the rules are there, they should have been known, you can plan around them, both are right in that.
00:22:33.000 But it is a rigged system.
00:22:34.000 I was looking last night at the data that the voters, the people that voted in the Republican primary in D.C.
00:22:41.000 Every delegate, one delegate was chosen for every 100 people.
00:22:43.000 The voters that voted in Michigan, one delegate was chosen for every 20,000 people.
00:22:47.000 And when you cancel primaries in Colorado and say, we're not going to do a primary now, we're going to do an entirely different system, they're right.
00:22:53.000 The system is broken.
00:22:55.000 The political system on both sides is broken.
00:22:57.000 And it is a rigged system that only benefits certain people.
00:23:01.000 Okay, it's rigged, it only benefits certain people.
00:23:03.000 And finally, you have Mika Brzezinski, just to sum up this part of the show.
00:23:06.000 You have Mika Brzezinski on MSNBC.
00:23:09.000 She and Joe Scarborough are totally in Trump's camp at this point.
00:23:12.000 And the number of media who have just fallen for Trump is truly amazing.
00:23:16.000 By the way, Mika and Joe will switch over to Hillary as soon as the primaries are over.
00:23:19.000 But Mika says, no, Trump is, he's just what we've been waiting for.
00:23:23.000 He wrote an op-ed last Friday in the Wall Street Journal, which again, this all demonstrates that
00:23:29.000 The Rupert Murdoch empire has now swung totally behind Trump.
00:23:32.000 Wall Street Journal runs an op-ed from Trump on the same day that the New York Post owned by Murdoch runs an editorial picking Trump for president in New York, which is insane, on the same day that Fox News is pushing its hosts to continue being pro-Trump, which is what they do.
00:23:47.000 Here's Mika Brzezinski talking about how Trump really, this is what we've all been waiting for, is Trump's shift to the center.
00:23:53.000 I see a very smart op-ed.
00:23:57.000 The pivot will come when he takes back some of the Muslim statements and some of the other divisive things.
00:24:04.000 That's the pivot.
00:24:05.000 This is smart campaigning.
00:24:07.000 It's smart campaigning and she says this is exactly what we've been waiting for from Donald Trump.
00:24:11.000 So why are people in love with this strategy?
00:24:14.000 Why are people in love with the victim shtick from Trump?
00:24:17.000 I'm being victimized.
00:24:18.000 I'm being victimized.
00:24:19.000 And then the lying about how he's been victimized.
00:24:21.000 And then finally the I'll burn crap down if I don't get what I want.
00:24:24.000 Right?
00:24:25.000 Why are people in love with this?
00:24:26.000 The answer I think goes to something that's deeper than just Trump.
00:24:31.000 The answer goes to the fact that people really don't want to be free.
00:24:35.000 I really don't think people want to be free.
00:24:37.000 George W. Bush said, with regard to the war in Iraq and in the Middle East, he said, there's an urge in every human heart for freedom.
00:24:43.000 This is what every human heart desires, is freedom.
00:24:46.000 I don't think this is true.
00:24:47.000 I think that every human heart desires security.
00:24:51.000 It's a battling impulse.
00:24:52.000 We all want freedom to do what we want, but then we want the government to protect us doing what we want.
00:24:57.000 And we want the government providing for us, because we're lazy, and because people want a protector.
00:25:01.000 And this goes all the way back to biblical times.
00:25:03.000 You remember all the way back in your Bible class, you remember Samuel is approached by the people, he's the judge at the time, and there's been this kind of ad hoc system of judges who've been ruling Israel.
00:25:12.000 And Samuel is approached by the people, and they say, we want a king.
00:25:16.000 And he says, well, God ain't big into that.
00:25:19.000 And they say, well, we want a king anyway.
00:25:20.000 He says, well, let me just tell you.
00:25:22.000 If you have a king, he's gonna take your sons and daughters, he's gonna take your sons for wars, he's gonna use your daughters for whatever he uses your daughters for, he's gonna take all your money, he's gonna take all your cash, he's gonna take all your crops.
00:25:30.000 The king's not gonna be good.
00:25:31.000 They say, no, well, we want a king anyway.
00:25:33.000 We want a king anyway.
00:25:35.000 He says, alright.
00:25:36.000 He goes back to God, and God says, don't worry, Samuel, they're not rejecting you, they're rejecting me.
00:25:41.000 Okay, that is what happens in virtually any democratic society.
00:25:44.000 At a certain point, people say, we reject the notion of the individual human being as mattering because we all want security.
00:25:52.000 We want a dear leader.
00:25:54.000 We want a dear leader.
00:25:55.000 Trump is a dear leader.
00:25:56.000 That's all he is.
00:25:58.000 And the way that dear leaders take power is they play off of victimization, the idea that they've been victimized by the system, and then they say, we are now going to strike back and we're going to thug all the people who have victimized us.
00:26:08.000 You cross us and we will break you.
00:26:11.000 And all the frustrated people go, yeah!
00:26:13.000 Because somebody needs to break these people.
00:26:14.000 Somebody needs to break this corrupt system.
00:26:16.000 So what Trump does, what all successful movements do, is they take a grain of truth and then they wrap it in a husk of lies.
00:26:23.000 They take a core of truth and they wrap it in a husk of lies.
00:26:25.000 That's what Trump does.
00:26:25.000 So the core of truth in Trump is twofold.
00:26:28.000 One, the RNC is corrupt.
00:26:29.000 And two, the journalistic establishment is corrupt.
00:26:32.000 Right?
00:26:33.000 These are the two grains of truth.
00:26:34.000 I don't like the RNC any more than Trump does.
00:26:37.000 I think the RNC has been a crap show for a long time.
00:26:39.000 There are a lot of people like me who are very frustrated that, for example, John McCain in 2008 wins the nomination with 47% of the popular vote.
00:26:47.000 And he wins it walking away.
00:26:48.000 He doesn't have a majority.
00:26:49.000 He has 47%.
00:26:49.000 Mitt Romney wins 52% of the popular vote in 2012.
00:26:54.000 But, by the time we had hit the end, it was basically him versus Santorum, a lot of the other candidates had fallen by the wayside, you know, Perry had been ousted, and so it ends up being Romney, but a lot of people feel frustrated and screwed by the system.
00:27:05.000 They feel like they've been jacked by the system.
00:27:07.000 Here comes Trump, and Trump says the RNC's corrupt, and we all go, well, okay.
00:27:12.000 Okay.
00:27:13.000 He wasn't saying it before.
00:27:14.000 He wasn't saying it about McCain or Romney.
00:27:16.000 But now he's saying it about him, right?
00:27:17.000 But he's using the argument that the system is corrupt to say, and they're specifically gearing it against me.
00:27:24.000 And he said this.
00:27:24.000 He said this about Colorado, right?
00:27:26.000 He said, Colorado, they built this system knowing I was going to win, and then they built it just to stop me.
00:27:32.000 That's a lie.
00:27:33.000 That's not true.
00:27:33.000 It's verifiably untrue.
00:27:35.000 But people who hate the system, they go, okay, the system's corrupt.
00:27:39.000 Maybe he's right.
00:27:39.000 Maybe he's right.
00:27:40.000 And then about the journalistic establishment.
00:27:42.000 The journalistic establishment, we all know the media lie.
00:27:45.000 We all know that they lie on a regular basis.
00:27:47.000 They take the left side, they push false narratives.
00:27:50.000 This is what they do.
00:27:52.000 But even the journalistic establishment is right twice a day.
00:27:54.000 They're a broken clock and they're right twice a day.
00:27:56.000 The problem is Trump says they're wrong all the time.
00:27:58.000 So if I say something is Donald Trump, and it's a lie, it's verifiable, it's not true.
00:28:04.000 But the media says, wait a second, it's not true what you're saying.
00:28:07.000 Trump just says, yeah, but those people lie.
00:28:09.000 Yeah, but those people lie.
00:28:11.000 And if you say, well, you knew the rules of the RNC, yeah, well, those people are corrupt.
00:28:14.000 Those people are corrupt.
00:28:16.000 Right?
00:28:16.000 Ted Cruz?
00:28:17.000 Maybe he's honest, but, you know, people like Ted Cruz and the establishment who manipulate and they're behind the system, those people are corrupt and lie in Ted.
00:28:24.000 And his people go, oh, well, he's hitting the right people.
00:28:27.000 He's hitting the right people.
00:28:29.000 Here's the part where I go back to people want a dictator.
00:28:32.000 When a system is corrupt, and it is, when a system is corrupt,
00:28:35.000 And it's been corrupt for a very long time.
00:28:37.000 And it's been infiltrated by insiders who have a certain interest in the system.
00:28:42.000 When that's been the case, and by the way, you can't say insiders are giving it to Ted Cruz, who is the least insidery candidate in American politics in my lifetime.
00:28:49.000 Far less insidery than Trump, who, as we showed earlier in the show, is willing to pay off the left.
00:28:54.000 When you have a system that's corrupt, people's natural tendency is not to say, let's dismantle the system.
00:29:01.000 It's not, unfortunately.
00:29:03.000 Their tendency is to say, let's put in a guy who is above the rules.
00:29:06.000 So you have a set of rules.
00:29:08.000 The institution then breaks the rules.
00:29:10.000 People don't say, OK, let's dismantle the institution.
00:29:13.000 Let's rewrite the institution from the set.
00:29:15.000 Less trust.
00:29:16.000 No institution.
00:29:17.000 Let's push down the institution.
00:29:18.000 Instead what they do is they tend to say, well,
00:29:22.000 If we got our guy in there, if we got our guy in there to really clean it up, it would be better, and in order to get him in, the rules no longer apply.
00:29:30.000 Right?
00:29:30.000 Rules don't apply to him.
00:29:31.000 We need somebody above the rules.
00:29:32.000 We need the ubermensch.
00:29:33.000 We need somebody to come in.
00:29:34.000 Rules don't apply to him, because if we play by the corrupt rules, the bad guy wins.
00:29:38.000 So we need somebody to not play by those rules.
00:29:41.000 He has to be even more corrupt than the most corrupt people, and he will bring us victory.
00:29:46.000 If the media are lying, we need someone who lies even more than the media.
00:29:49.000 Not less, more, because we know the media are lying.
00:29:52.000 So you can simultaneously hold these two concepts in mind if you're a Trump supporter.
00:29:57.000 The left lies, and Trump lies, but Trump is lying because he wants to defeat the left, and so you can trust him.
00:30:03.000 Because Trump can be trusted, and the media never can.
00:30:05.000 Even though the media are sometimes right.
00:30:07.000 The media are sometimes right.
00:30:08.000 Not always.
00:30:09.000 Not even a lot of the time.
00:30:10.000 But a couple of times a day, that broken clock is right.
00:30:12.000 We've taken it to mean the broken clock is never right, ever.
00:30:15.000 It's always wrong.
00:30:16.000 And so if it's always wrong, then no matter what they say, it's wrong.
00:30:20.000 Even if they're telling the truth about Trump.
00:30:23.000 The RNC, same deal.
00:30:24.000 They're corrupt.
00:30:25.000 We need an ubermensch to come in and just break things.
00:30:27.000 The rules are bad.
00:30:29.000 No more rules.
00:30:30.000 They don't apply to this guy.
00:30:31.000 The rules simply don't apply.
00:30:32.000 And it doesn't matter if he agreed to the rules already.
00:30:34.000 Because the system of the rules is corrupt.
00:30:37.000 This is actually a leftist perspective.
00:30:39.000 This is a leftist perspective.
00:30:41.000 The reason this is a leftist perspective is because what the left says is that all human activity is created by a system.
00:30:49.000 All bad human activity is created by a system.
00:30:51.000 It's created by a system of economics called capitalism.
00:30:53.000 This is what Bernie Sanders says, right?
00:30:55.000 He says that the financial crash happened because of greed.
00:30:58.000 Human greed.
00:30:58.000 People who are evil.
00:31:00.000 Greedy, evil humans.
00:31:01.000 But those greedy, evil humans only exist because of a system.
00:31:05.000 That system of capitalism.
00:31:07.000 So what do we need?
00:31:08.000 We need a man who's bigger than capitalism to come in and not abide by rules of greed and not greed.
00:31:12.000 We need that man to be above the rules, because he needs to break down the system.
00:31:16.000 We need someone to come in and grab all of our money, and redistribute it, and do what he will.
00:31:20.000 We need a god-king to come in and be bigger than the rules, above morality.
00:31:24.000 We need him to come in and we need to fix things.
00:31:26.000 And the way you fix things, the way you destroy the institution, is by continuing to maintain it, just putting somebody who's even more corrupt in power, somebody who has no rules that apply to him, at all.
00:31:37.000 This is how you end up at dictator land.
00:31:39.000 This is how you end up with dear leader.
00:31:41.000 Right?
00:31:41.000 Trump, for a lot of people, is this dear leader.
00:31:43.000 The more he lies, the more powerful they think he is, because it shows he doesn't abide by the rules.
00:31:48.000 The more he lies—if he stops lying, it's bad for him—the more he lies, the more they think he is powerful, because every lie he tells and gets away with is a rebuttal to the media.
00:31:59.000 Every lie he tells about the RNC and gets away with is a rebuttal to the corrupt RNC.
00:32:04.000 It doesn't matter if he's lying.
00:32:05.000 It doesn't matter if he's corrupt.
00:32:07.000 He's the man we need because he breaks all the rules, because he won't play within the system.
00:32:11.000 Because he operates outside the system.
00:32:14.000 Because he's coming in like a white knight on a black steed.
00:32:18.000 He's coming in and he's going to change the system completely and the rules don't apply to him.
00:32:23.000 And so he must be given leeway.
00:32:25.000 And the more he lies, the more he whines, the more he threatens, the better he is.
00:32:30.000 The less number of rules that apply to him, that's how we know he's a great man.
00:32:34.000 The only way we can tell that Donald Trump is a great man is because the rules don't apply to him.
00:32:40.000 If he were to play by the rules, we would know that he's not a great man.
00:32:42.000 Right?
00:32:42.000 Then he's just part of the system.
00:32:44.000 If he's like Ted Cruz, he plays by the rules that he's given.
00:32:46.000 Now he's just part of the system.
00:32:47.000 Just a product of the system.
00:32:49.000 But Trump is outside the system.
00:32:51.000 He's the bug in the machine.
00:32:52.000 And if you, like Independence Day, if you want to destroy the machine, you have to plant this virus and it's just going to destroy all the machinery.
00:32:58.000 That's who Trump is.
00:32:59.000 And he can't play by the rules.
00:33:00.000 So the less he plays by the rules, the more his campaign... If his campaign manager had slugged Michelle Fields, really, like punched her,
00:33:06.000 And then he'd come out and said it never happened?
00:33:08.000 And then he'd come out that it did happen and he told the exact same story?
00:33:11.000 Trump supporters would be right there with him.
00:33:13.000 The whole way.
00:33:14.000 The whole way.
00:33:15.000 Because it doesn't matter what story you tell about Trump.
00:33:17.000 He violates rules.
00:33:19.000 This makes him good.
00:33:20.000 This makes him powerful.
00:33:22.000 Because power equals good in a system where currently powerful equals corrupt.
00:33:27.000 So that's the worship for Trump.
00:33:29.000 And it's very scary stuff because once you get into this territory where you're looking for a guy just to break the rules because it shows how powerful he is that he can break the rules and get away with them, you're not going to like it when the rules don't exist anymore.
00:33:41.000 The rules have been perverted.
00:33:42.000 The solution is to fix them.
00:33:44.000 But the solution is not to bring in the guy who doesn't believe there are rules.
00:33:47.000 Once you do that, you're going to be real surprised when it turns out the rules are gone and he turns around.
00:33:55.000 And it's just pure, naked power.
00:33:57.000 And that's all that's there.
00:33:58.000 Just pure, naked power.
00:33:59.000 And a guy who makes the rules by the seat of his pants?
00:34:02.000 A guy who makes the rules by his narcissism and his ego?
00:34:05.000 That's where this is going.
00:34:06.000 That's where this is going.
00:34:08.000 Now the left has been comfortable with this for a very long time.
00:34:10.000 This is why all of the leftists are really dictatorial in nature.
00:34:15.000 And they don't abide by the rules.
00:34:16.000 And they don't care about the rules.
00:34:20.000 And it's clear they don't care about the rules.
00:34:21.000 Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
00:34:22.000 We'll show you.
00:34:23.000 Trump and Hillary are basically the same.
00:34:25.000 Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the Jar Jar Binks, the head of the DNC, the Democratic National Committee.
00:34:31.000 She says, she was asked specifically by Hugh Hewitt of Salem.
00:34:34.000 She was asked, okay, so, you know, Corey Lewandowski wasn't indicted.
00:34:37.000 If he had been indicted, there were a lot of people who said he should have been fired.
00:34:40.000 If Hillary has an aide who's indicted in this whole email thing, should that aide be fired?
00:34:44.000 Now, this would be what we call playing by the rules, right?
00:34:46.000 If you have an aide who's indicted, that person probably should not have lots of power, at least until that person is cleared.
00:34:52.000 Watch Debbie Wasserman Schultz's answer.
00:34:55.000 Miss Debbie Wasserman!
00:34:56.000 Okay, let's go.
00:34:58.000 Many Democrats and many Republicans said of Donald Trump's campaign manager that he should be fired, and he wasn't.
00:35:03.000 If any of Secretary Clinton's aides are indicted in the FBI server investigation, should they also be fired?
00:35:09.000 Should the same standard apply?
00:35:11.000 That is a question that I'm not even going near.
00:35:13.000 I don't think that's going to happen and at the end of the day, we are going to have a campaign that will play out.
00:35:19.000 Our nominee will ultimately be elected President of the United States because we are on the side of the American people and ultimately our candidate... It's not about whether or not it's going to happen, it's about the standard.
00:35:29.000 If a senior aide is ever indicted in a campaign, as Mr. Lewandowski was, should they be fired immediately?
00:35:36.000 Again, I don't think that that's going to happen, so it's not a question that is one that I think makes sense to answer.
00:35:43.000 I'm focused on making sure that when we get to the end of our primary, we're preparing for the general election and we can and will elect our nominee, the 45th President of the United States.
00:35:50.000 So the Democrats believe the same thing that Trump believes, right?
00:35:53.000 Hillary is above the law.
00:35:54.000 The law doesn't apply to her.
00:35:55.000 This is what makes her powerful and capable of creating change, is that the law does not apply to her.
00:36:00.000 And they feel this way all the way through.
00:36:02.000 George Clooney, the wisest man ever to set foot in Hollywood, just a truly deep individual.
00:36:08.000 When he's not putting nipples on his batsuit, George Clooney is angry.
00:36:13.000 He's very angry at the amount of money that's being spent on politics, unless, of course, he's raising that money for Hillary Clinton.
00:36:17.000 Again, you're above the law, and being above the law makes you powerful.
00:36:21.000 We now live in the age of supermen.
00:36:23.000 We live in the age of supermen and superwomen.
00:36:25.000 Uber mention.
00:36:26.000 And this is just another part and parcel of that age.
00:36:30.000 You co-hosted on Friday night, a big fundraiser I know that you have planned for later tonight.
00:36:36.000 Do you look at how much is being raised?
00:36:41.000 And I think the co-host of the Friday night dinner, $353,000, a couple to be a co-chair.
00:36:47.000 Do you look at it yourself and think that's an obscene amount of money?
00:36:51.000 Yes.
00:36:52.000 I think it's an obscene amount of money.
00:36:54.000 I think that, you know, we had some protesters last night when we pulled up in San Francisco.
00:37:00.000 And they're right to protest.
00:37:01.000 They're absolutely right.
00:37:02.000 It is an obscene amount of money.
00:37:04.000 The Sanders campaign, when they talk about it, is absolutely right.
00:37:08.000 It's ridiculous that we should have this kind of money in politics.
00:37:10.000 I agree.
00:37:12.000 But he's doing it, isn't he?
00:37:14.000 That's Trump.
00:37:15.000 That's Trump.
00:37:16.000 It's all the same.
00:37:16.000 It's the same thing as Trump.
00:37:18.000 He says it's terrible bribery when Ted Cruz is doing it.
00:37:20.000 When he's not even doing it, it's terrible.
00:37:22.000 But when I do it?
00:37:23.000 That's just business, gang.
00:37:24.000 That's just business.
00:37:25.000 They're above the rules.
00:37:26.000 The Uber mention.
00:37:27.000 They're above all the rules.
00:37:29.000 And then the way that they get away with this is that they say, OK, we're going to basically imply that Hillary's a victim.
00:37:37.000 So again, dictators play victims always.
00:37:39.000 Hugo Chávez always said, I am the people the minute he was attacked.
00:37:42.000 How dare you victimize the people?
00:37:45.000 I am the people.
00:37:45.000 If you're attacking me, you're attacking the people.
00:37:48.000 MSNBC's Joy Reid is playing defense for Hillary.
00:37:50.000 A bunch of Bernie Sanders supporters threw money at Hillary's motorcade as she came through Beverly Hills, and here's MSNBC's Joy Reid suggesting this makes Hillary a victim.
00:38:00.000 People throwing dollar bills as if in a strip club.
00:38:04.000 This coming on the heels of a Bernie Sanders surrogate having to apologize for using the term democratic whores at the Washington Square Park rally.
00:38:15.000 That visual there of throwing dollar bills at a woman as she's going by her motorcade.
00:38:21.000 Has the Democratic race gone over the edge?
00:38:23.000 It's really striking, and I don't know what it is exactly that has caused this.
00:38:27.000 Maybe it's because we're here in New York, the media situation here is really intense, there's a sort of tabloid culture of it all.
00:38:34.000 But I think it's also that Sanders' supporters are coming to realize that this process is going to come to an end.
00:38:40.000 Okay, so in any case, Joy Reid there suggesting that it's like throwing money at a stripper.
00:38:46.000 First of all, no one has ever wanted Hillary to strip.
00:38:49.000 Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
00:38:51.000 They would pay her not to strip if that were the actual threat, right?
00:38:54.000 The equivalent of Donald Trump threatening to burn down the RNC is Hillary Clinton threatening to strip.
00:38:59.000 Joy Reid over at MSNBC suggesting this again.
00:39:02.000 Hillary's the victim.
00:39:02.000 It's not that she takes hundreds of thousands of dollars from Wall Street and then won't release her speeches.
00:39:07.000 No, she's a victim.
00:39:08.000 She's always a victim.
00:39:09.000 So they're the same.
00:39:10.000 Hillary and Trump, they're always the same.
00:39:12.000 But again, both sides looking for somebody outside the system to be a system wrecker by not obeying any of the rules.
00:39:18.000 The higher the level of criminality, the more you know that they are worthy of the presidency, they're worthy of power, because they will operate outside the rules.
00:39:25.000 They want a God.
00:39:26.000 One of the big questions in religion, is God subject to morality or is morality subject to God?
00:39:31.000 Most religious people say,
00:39:34.000 Morality is subject to God.
00:39:48.000 who are supposedly on the right, who fall victim to this mentality, because it is a universal human drive to find the powerful person to fix everything, the God-King to fix everything.
00:39:58.000 It's a universal human drive throughout human history, but it is a drive that is born of a leftist belief system and emotion that really is quite damaging.
00:40:07.000 Okay, quick update from the John Kasich campaign, the quixotic John Kasich campaign that continues to exist for no reason.
00:40:13.000 John Kasich has now announced a huge endorsement that will change everything.
00:40:17.000 All the things will be changed by this endorsement.
00:40:19.000 Guess who just endorsed John Kasich?
00:40:21.000 Oh, God, no!
00:40:22.000 Not John Kasich.
00:40:22.000 Yes, John Kasich.
00:40:23.000 Here we go.
00:40:25.000 Well, he's the, you know, three-time governor of New York.
00:40:28.000 I mean, that is just really, I mean, he's up there in the pantheon of the great leaders of the state of New York.
00:40:36.000 OK, so there's John Kasich.
00:40:55.000 What changes everything is that George Pataki, whose actual 2016 campaign slogan, I believe, was, if everyone else dies in a fiery plane accident, George Pataki, 2016, he's now being trotted out by the Kasich campaign.
00:41:09.000 Yeah, that's gonna be a big win.
00:41:10.000 John Kasich, continuing to be a human and doing things that are human-like.
00:41:15.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:41:17.000 Okay, first things I like.
00:41:19.000 My wife and I went to see, down at the Amundsen, Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder, which is this musical.
00:41:24.000 It's based on an old British movie from 1949 with Alec Guinness, and it's very clever.
00:41:29.000 It's not for the younger crowd.
00:41:31.000 It's rated R for sure.
00:41:32.000 Um, but it's, but it's very clever, it's very funny, A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder.
00:41:36.000 Here's just a little bit of, of, this is probably the best number in the show.
00:41:39.000 Uh, this is from, I think this is from the Tony Awards actually, so this is from the Broadway production of A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder.
00:41:45.000 Monty!
00:41:46.000 Phoebe!
00:41:46.000 Monty!
00:41:47.000 Who's there?
00:41:49.000 Monty, Monty, Monty, Monty, Monty, Monty, Monty!
00:41:53.000 I'm grateful indeed for your gracious bestowment.
00:41:56.000 Yes, Wadsworth, I told you, be just a moment!
00:41:58.000 Now, Monty dear, I think I know who's in there.
00:42:01.000 Oh!
00:42:01.000 I still want to marry you.
00:42:03.000 Even so?
00:42:03.000 I've decided to marry you.
00:42:05.000 Just go.
00:42:06.000 I long to marry you.
00:42:07.000 Hello!
00:42:07.000 Yes, I'm delighted to marry you, marry you, marry you.
00:42:10.000 Shame, you must go.
00:42:19.000 So, if you can't tell what's happening here is that there's one girl who wants to marry him and the other one, he's got on a string basically, she's married too, but it's a very clever, funny, very dark musical.
00:42:31.000 He's basically a serial killer, is what the story is.
00:42:35.000 He's ninth in line to be the new Earl of Highhurst and he tries to kill the other eight people who are in line in front of him so that he can become Earl of Highhurst.
00:42:43.000 Very clever, very funny.
00:42:45.000 Okay, so there is a thing that I like.
00:42:46.000 Things that I hate.
00:42:46.000 Okay, so, first of all, just a quick note.
00:42:50.000 Apparently, somebody, I can't imagine this is anybody other than a Trump supporter, but I got a phone call over the weekend and somebody left a message for me, some dude left a message for me saying, I saw your profile on Tinder and you look really hot.
00:43:07.000 Okay, I'm gonna go with a Trump supporter probably posted some sort of profile on Tinder using my home phone number.
00:43:14.000 No evidence of that yet because I don't know even how to search Tinder to find out if that's true, but I assure you that this is, uh, this is, it was, to quote Homer Simpson, it was, uh, it was
00:43:26.000 What's the quote?
00:43:28.000 It's awful but flattering?
00:43:31.000 So I guess I'm getting some unique phone calls from Trump supporters now.
00:43:34.000 Because nothing really says that your man is the man, quite like going on a gay Tinder profile site and entering other people's information.
00:43:41.000 This really shows that you're gutsy and wonderful, so well done there.
00:43:45.000 And to all the nice gay gentlemen who are calling me, I'm sorry, I'm straight, I'm taken.
00:43:51.000 You're lost, but I'm sure that you'll find love some other place.
00:43:55.000 Okay.
00:43:56.000 Other things that I hate.
00:43:57.000 So, SNL, Saturday Night Live, they've decided...
00:44:02.000 That the key to leftism is now to bully the living crap out of religious people.
00:44:07.000 So, over in North Carolina, Georgia, in Mississippi, there have been a variety of laws that have now come out, and these laws basically say that if you're a religious person, or any person actually, you can reject service to somebody based on your religious affiliation.
00:44:24.000 So if I'm an Orthodox Jew, which I am, and I don't feel like serving a gay wedding, I don't have to do that, right?
00:44:30.000 This is what these laws say.
00:44:31.000 Well, SNL thinks this is just terrible.
00:44:33.000 SNL thinks this is just awful.
00:44:35.000 So, there's a movie called God Is Not Dead, and there's God Is Not Dead 2, which I guess just came out.
00:44:40.000 Neither one of them is a very good movie.
00:44:41.000 But SNL used this as a leaping-off point to make fun of Christians because this is what they do.
00:44:46.000 By the way, you'll never see them do this with Muslims, right?
00:44:48.000 It'll never be Allah Is Not Dead.
00:44:51.000 They will never, ever, ever do this.
00:44:52.000 But with Christians, they can do it.
00:44:54.000 So here is their fake trailer for God is Not Dead.
00:44:57.000 And this is how, understand, this is how people from New York and L.A.
00:45:01.000 think of religious Americans.
00:45:03.000 This is what they think of religious people.
00:45:04.000 This is what they think we are.
00:45:06.000 Okay.
00:45:07.000 Beth was a small town baker without a care.
00:45:10.000 Hi there.
00:45:12.000 I'd like to order a wedding cake.
00:45:14.000 Of course.
00:45:15.000 Where's the lucky bride?
00:45:16.000 He's right here.
00:45:20.000 Until her faith was tested.
00:45:23.000 Now make the cake.
00:45:26.000 They wanted her to spit in the face of God.
00:45:29.000 I said make the cake!
00:45:32.000 I can't do it!
00:45:33.000 From the makers of God on the Run and Angel in Denim, The Kim Davis Story.
00:45:39.000 What are you thinking?
00:45:40.000 Gays are the most powerful force in America.
00:45:42.000 A story of liberal elites run wild.
00:45:45.000 You'll be hearing from our Jewish lawyer!
00:45:50.000 My name is Shmuel from the ACLU.
00:45:52.000 You're in a lot of trouble, Beth.
00:45:54.000 What do you people want from me?
00:45:56.000 My clients just need you to say three simple words.
00:46:00.000 God is gay.
00:46:04.000 But he's not gay.
00:46:06.000 God is as straight as they come.
00:46:08.000 Then I guess we'll be seeing you in court.
00:46:11.000 Court is now in session.
00:46:20.000 Gays are trying to force their agenda.
00:46:23.000 They're even teaching it in school.
00:46:27.000 Only she had the courage to say.
00:46:29.000 They say we're bigots, but Christians are the most oppressed group in this country.
00:46:34.000 Maybe.
00:46:35.000 But I'm gonna prove once and for all that God is straight.
00:46:42.000 If God is gay, then why aren't there any gay priests?
00:46:46.000 Miss Walsh, you are on thin ice.
00:46:49.000 You know God is gay.
00:46:50.000 Just admit it!
00:46:52.000 No!
00:46:54.000 She needed an ally.
00:46:56.000 Governor, we are the poorest state in the country, second in obesity, third in teen pregnancy.
00:47:01.000 We have to do something.
00:47:02.000 Well, hold that thought.
00:47:03.000 What's wrong, ma'am?
00:47:05.000 I want to deny basic goods and services to gay people.
00:47:11.000 Everybody out.
00:47:13.000 This is the priority now.
00:47:15.000 Last chance, Miss Walsh.
00:47:16.000 Okay, so this is the obnoxious way the left thinks of religious people, right?
00:47:19.000 We're all religious bigots.
00:47:20.000 First of all, just to point out, at the very beginning, right, you have this gay couple walks in, they say, make us the cake.
00:47:25.000 And this is supposed to be funny, right?
00:47:27.000 Is that they say, make us the cake.
00:47:28.000 Like, who would possibly do this?
00:47:30.000 You!
00:47:31.000 You would do this, okay?
00:47:32.000 You lefties, you actually did this.
00:47:34.000 You did this in Oregon.
00:47:35.000 You went to court to make that lady right there, right?
00:47:38.000 You made her do this to the tune of $175,000 in fines.
00:47:42.000 So don't pretend that this is a joke.
00:47:44.000 It's not a joke.
00:47:45.000 You ruined some people's lives to do that.
00:47:47.000 So you act like, oh, everybody's paranoid about this, because it happened.
00:47:51.000 Because of you.
00:47:52.000 So there's that.
00:47:53.000 Then it turns into, the only reason she doesn't want to do this is because she thinks that God is straight.
00:47:58.000 And so they're trying to force people to say, no one cares what you think.
00:48:02.000 Like, if you're gay and you think God is gay, okay?
00:48:06.000 Alright?
00:48:06.000 Most religious people I know don't think of God as having a sexuality.
00:48:09.000 Right?
00:48:10.000 Because they're in a second God to have sex with.
00:48:12.000 Right?
00:48:12.000 And it's not a material thing.
00:48:14.000 So most religious people I know are not pagans like the ancient Greeks.
00:48:17.000 We didn't think there were lots of gods running around screwing each other.
00:48:19.000 This is not our thing.
00:48:21.000 But the idea is that we're so simplistic and we're so stupid that we think that God only approves of heterosexual sex.
00:48:27.000 We only think God approves of heterosexual sex because, in our Bible, that's what it says.
00:48:32.000 That doesn't mean that you can't do what you want.
00:48:33.000 If you want to sin, that's your business.
00:48:34.000 It's a free country.
00:48:36.000 You can sin.
00:48:36.000 But that doesn't mean you have to force us to sin.
00:48:39.000 The idea that Christians have been intolerant, this is part of the thing that's so annoying.
00:48:43.000 Clavin talks about this regularly.
00:48:44.000 The idea that Christians are so deeply, horribly intolerant to gay people.
00:48:49.000 Who do you think created this country?
00:48:50.000 Who do you think created this western civilization?
00:48:52.000 The only civilization of the last several thousand years where homosexuals can live openly?
00:48:57.000 Who do you think did that?
00:48:58.000 Was that a bunch of secularists?
00:48:59.000 It was actually a bunch of Christians, it turns out.
00:49:02.000 And that Christian civilization brought forth the idea of the Enlightenment and rationality, and it also brought forth the idea of individual human freedom to sin without government compulsion, so long as you're not hurting third parties.
00:49:13.000 That is an outgrowth of an actual civilization that is rooted in Judeo-Christian religion.
00:49:18.000 You can't just separate them.
00:49:20.000 So, you know, this kind of stuff is highly irritating to me, because for people who don't follow this stuff, it does look ridiculous.
00:49:25.000 And the goal is to make it look like, oh, these stupid hicks down South, these idiot hicks who don't care about teenage pregnancy.
00:49:32.000 First of all, you want to talk about people who don't care about teenage pregnancy?
00:49:35.000 Start with SNL, where they're fine with single mothers.
00:49:38.000 Those are heroes.
00:49:39.000 Single mothers are heroes.
00:49:40.000 And anybody who objects to single motherhood and says it causes crime, those people are bigots.
00:49:45.000 The whole thing is really disreputable.
00:49:47.000 But that's the goal.
00:49:48.000 When you want to talk about intolerance, that's intolerant.
00:49:51.000 That's intolerant.
00:49:52.000 Because imagine, imagine for a second, that, first of all, I object personally to the use of the guy in the yarmulke as though he's going to be the representative of the ACLU.
00:50:00.000 Okay?
00:50:00.000 It'd be a Jew without a yarmulke who represents the ACLU.
00:50:03.000 But, beyond that, imagine they made this about Muslims.
00:50:06.000 You think they would ever do that?
00:50:08.000 The idiot Muslim who doesn't want to cater to the gay wedding?
00:50:10.000 The idiot Muslim who doesn't want to be involved in teenage promiscuity?
00:50:14.000 You think they'd ever do that?
00:50:15.000 Ever?
00:50:16.000 Of course not, because they recognize that that's intolerant.
00:50:19.000 That people have different standards, right?
00:50:21.000 Except if you're Christian.
00:50:22.000 Then, the whole premise of this is, just make the cake.
00:50:27.000 Right?
00:50:27.000 That's the whole premise of this, is just make the cake.
00:50:28.000 If she just made the cake, it would have been okay.
00:50:30.000 Even though, the reality is that there is bullying going on.
00:50:34.000 And it is bullying of religious people.
00:50:35.000 Just walk down the street, gang.
00:50:37.000 You don't want to get the cake here?
00:50:38.000 Go get the cake somewhere else.
00:50:39.000 The person doesn't want to serve you?
00:50:41.000 Guess what?
00:50:42.000 You can order a cake online.
00:50:43.000 There's plenty of options.
00:50:44.000 This is America.
00:50:45.000 Okay, final thing that I don't like for the day.
00:50:47.000 So apparently, there's a new report looking at abortion in the West.
00:50:51.000 And what it finds is, shocker, shocker, massive gender-based abortion in the West.
00:50:58.000 Massive gender-based abortion in the West.
00:50:59.000 So according to this study, it's reported by the Boston Pilot, apparently it's not just in China where there is sex-selective abortion for males.
00:51:08.000 Apparently it's happening all across the world, particularly with immigrants, that if there is abortion,
00:51:15.000 It is targeting females.
00:51:19.000 It's killing off women.
00:51:21.000 This is the amazing thing about feminists.
00:51:22.000 They're so happy to praise abortion that they forget that the entire next generation that's going to be aborted, or at least a lot of them across planet Earth, are going to be women.
00:51:30.000 They're gonna be females.
00:51:31.000 Because it turns out that in the third world societies where the left thinks abortion is most necessary, in those societies, boys are valued more than girls because boys can fight and boys can work the land.
00:51:40.000 Right?
00:51:40.000 That's the reality.
00:51:41.000 So, all these lefties who love abortion and want to bring abortion to Africa and Asia, just recognize that women, you know, you and your feminist friends, women are going to be the ones who suffer the consequences.
00:51:51.000 There will be no next generation of women.
00:51:53.000 Right?
00:51:53.000 Those women will all be killed off in the womb, or a lot of them will be anyway.
00:51:56.000 That's what's happening in China.
00:51:58.000 Okay, so tomorrow is going to be the New York primary day.
00:52:03.000 We do do the show before the primary results are out.
00:52:05.000 We should just assume that Trump is going to be the big winner in New York, and the narrative will shift once again to uber-mention Trump, uber-mention Trump on the rise, drumpf on the rise again, and it'll all be very exciting.
00:52:16.000 We'll talk about that tomorrow, and we'll be back with more depressing news, and in the meantime, why don't you listen to Clavin's show?
00:52:21.000 He might make you feel better.
00:52:23.000 And if we're both depressed, I don't know what you're gonna do with your life today.
00:52:26.000 I mean, just try to stay away from the cyanide.
00:52:29.000 It'll be okay.
00:52:29.000 It'll be okay.
00:52:30.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:52:30.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.