Ben Rhodes was the man in charge of selling the terrible Iran nuclear deal to the public and the Congress. He brags openly about manipulating the press to lie for the administration. He spins fiction for the left. And Ben Rhodes has help. The New York Times reports that Rhodes and his lackeys have become adept at ventilating many people at once, turning them into their dummies. And they're happy to report all of it, knowing that their own readers will continue to buy whatever line they choose to sell. We have now entered the world of knights and knaves. When nobody can be trusted to tell the truth, the truth no longer matters. When the media prays you for lying, the truth no longer mattered. And then the only question is, which person will lie the best for you? And then, who will lie about it to the very people he played for fools? Ben Shapiro is a conservative commentator and writer who writes for the Wall Street Journal and the Weekly Standard. He is a regular contributor to both publications and blogs at The Weekly Standard, and is a frequent contributor to The Daily Wire. He's also a frequent guest on Fox News and CNN. He is the author of several books and hosts a regular podcast called The Righteous Conservative, which you should check out if you're a fan of his work. He's a good friend of mine, and I think he's a great human being and a very funny guy. He also happens to be a very smart guy, too. And he's very funny, too, which I think you should know who you should be listening to this podcast. . Thank you, Ben Shapiro, too! - The Ben Shapiro Show is a must-listen to Ben Shapiro's show, and The Daily Mail, if you do not have a copy of The Daily Beast. - It's a show about the best thing I've ever heard of him on the internet. -- it's a must listen to, and you should listen to it. and you'll get a chance to find out what he's writing about it on his blog post about it. And it's worth checking out the rest of it. It's very good, so you don't want to miss it. Also, you won't be disappointed, right? - And if you haven't checked it out, you'll want to do so on the next time you're in the next 24 hours, right here.
00:00:03.000Many Americans look at the pathological lies of presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump, and we wonder quietly how we reached this point.
00:00:57.000Creative fiction is the name of the game in the Obama administration.
00:01:00.000As the Times states, quote, When I asked Jon Favreau, Obama's lead speechwriter in the 2008 campaign and a close friend of Ben Rhodes, whether he or Rhodes or the president had ever thought of their individual speeches and bits of policymaking as part of some larger restructuring of the American narrative, he replied, quote,
00:01:20.000Entire job, not telling the truth, not crafting decent policy for the United States, writing lies for the left.
00:01:27.000The Times reports that Rhodes and his lackeys have, quote, become adept at ventriloquizing many people at once, turning them into their dummies.
00:01:35.000According to the Times, the entire administration narrative, their whole story,
00:01:39.000About the creation and content of the Iran deal, it was constructed from whole cloth.
00:02:19.000Now, what's truly incredible about all of this is not that the Obama administration lied, and lied repeatedly, and activated shows like Jeffrey Goldberg to market their lies, and watched as the media parroted those lies over and over and over again.
00:02:30.000What's astonishing is how brazen they are about this.
00:02:33.000I mean, they're openly telling the media about it.
00:02:37.000Turns out, he should have just switched party registrations, bragged about Watergate to all the friendly leftist outlets, and then let them do all of his dirty work.
00:02:45.000All of this bears Trumpian and Clintonian fruit.
00:02:47.000When nobody can be trusted to tell the truth, the truth no longer matters.
00:02:51.000When the media prays you for lying, the truth no longer matters.
00:02:53.000We have now entered the world of knights and knaves, knights who promise they are not knaves, knaves who lie that they are not knaves.
00:02:59.000So everybody's a knight, except some are knaves.
00:03:01.000When you can't tell the difference, lying becomes a simple mode of communication.
00:03:05.000And then the only question is, which person will lie the best for you?
00:03:09.000Barack Obama perfected this world of lies.
00:03:11.000Now he brags about it to the very people he played for fools.
00:03:14.000And they're happy to report all of it, knowing that their own readers will continue to buy whatever line they choose to sell.
00:03:30.000As I mentioned at the end of last week's broadcast on Thursday, there was a good shot that there would be, indeed, another Shapiro child to add to my burgeoning empire.
00:03:39.000And indeed, there is another Shapiro child to add to the burgeoning empire.
00:03:43.000And we'll announce his name later, because Jewish tradition suggests you're not supposed to do it until after the circumcision, which is supposed to take place this Saturday.
00:03:51.000But he's a beautiful kid, and thank God.
00:03:54.000I'll talk more about it later in the program, because it was interesting and fun.
00:04:19.000And the editorial by Bobby Jindal in the Wall Street Journal basically says that he's going to support Donald Trump.
00:04:24.000What's amazing about this editorial by Bobby Jindal is that he actually, at the very beginning of it, he sort of gets the story right.
00:04:30.000He says that the Never Trump movement, they're trying to, quote, preserve a remnant of the conservative movement and its credibility, which can then serve as a foundation for renewal.
00:04:39.000And he says that he's sympathetic to this aim.
00:05:22.000That's actually a better historical parallel.
00:05:24.000That's not saying that Trump is going to be Hitler, only to say that you're assuming knowledge not in evidence about the nature of Donald Trump.
00:05:31.000It's also ignoring the fact that Stalin and Hitler were allies.
00:05:35.000For most of the time, and then only after Hitler attacked Stalin, did open war break out between the two.
00:05:42.000So, if they're allies, were you really comfortable backing either of them?
00:05:45.000The truth is, the West was relatively split on the Hitler question all the way up until the time he attacked Poland, because they saw Hitler
00:05:52.000So these historical analogies fail most of the time.
00:05:57.000But this argument is gaining credibility nonetheless.
00:06:01.000So many people saying that anybody who opposes Trump, anybody who's not willing to get behind Donald Trump, it's because they're not conservative enough.
00:06:08.000Clearly they don't want to stop Hillary enough.
00:06:18.000It is not the same as voting for Hillary not to vote for Trump because it is not the same thing as voting for Trump not to vote for Hillary.
00:06:25.000Am I voting for Hillary if I don't vote for Trump?
00:06:50.000The honest side and the dishonest side.
00:06:51.000The honest side is people who are actually conservative arguing with each other over whether it is worthwhile to vote for Donald Trump as a short-term expedient, but acknowledging that Donald Trump is not actually conservative.
00:07:06.000You know, Bobby Jindal comes out and he says, yeah, you know, I get he's not conservative, but we sort of have to do what we have to do to stop Hillary.
00:07:17.000You're a bad conservative if you don't vote for Donald Trump.
00:07:21.000And here's why this argument is stupid.
00:07:23.000We'll start off with, I think it's Kylie McElhaney, who is a Trump supporter on CNN with Brian Stelter yesterday, and she makes exactly this argument.
00:07:32.000You're not properly conservative if you don't support Donald Trump in this election.
00:07:54.000Where were they with Mitt Romney, who laid out the blueprint for Obamacare?
00:07:58.000Where were they leading the Never-Romney movement?
00:08:00.000The fact are, those movements didn't exist.
00:08:02.000What you have going on here is an establishment and a
00:08:06.000...establishment that is rejecting their voters, that says we know better than our voters.
00:08:10.000We see that embodied in Paul Ryan, and we see the courage of leaders like John McCain and Mitch McConnell to come over and say, you know what?
00:08:16.000My voters aren't agreeing with where I stand, and therefore it's time for the party to change rather than kicking out our voters.
00:08:22.000This party would not exist absent its voters, and it's really irresponsible.
00:08:26.000It's not conservative, this Never Trump movement.
00:08:29.000Okay, so there are a couple arguments that she's making there.
00:08:31.000The first argument she's making is that there was no movement against McCain, there was no movement against Romney.
00:08:35.000I wrote about this back at, very early in this election cycle, when National Review, Jonah Goldberg at National Review, who's a friend and somebody who I think is a really good writer, Jonah wrote a piece talking about how he didn't want to be part of any movement that Trump was a part of, on the basis of Trump is not a conservative, Trump is, for all the reasons that I'm now on that side.
00:08:53.000And what I said was, my only problem with this argument was not what Jonah was saying, it's that there was no similar argument about Romney.
00:09:00.000Now, I made that argument in 2012 about Romney.
00:09:02.000I wrote a column called, No on Mitt Romney.
00:09:05.000In which I specifically said, it's okay to be part of the Romney movement if you're going to call out Romney for not being conservative enough and say he's the lesser of two evils.
00:09:12.000Which, by the way, is an argument that I make today.
00:09:14.000Although, I will say, the difference between Trump and Romney, if that's not evident to anyone, then I don't know what world you're living in.
00:09:21.000Both in character terms and in terms of conservative policy.
00:09:25.000Everybody who's, I mean, you have Kylie McElhaney there ripping on Mitt Romney for Romney care.
00:09:30.000Donald Trump has come out in favor of single payer healthcare, right?
00:09:33.000I mean, then he walks it back and walks it back forward again.
00:09:35.000Donald, she's ripping on John McCain for not embracing the Bush tax cuts.
00:09:39.000Yesterday, Donald Trump came out, we'll talk about this.
00:09:41.000He came out and he reversed himself on tax cuts.
00:09:43.000He says he now wants tax increases, right?
00:09:45.000There is no world in which Donald Trump is more conservative than John McCain and Mitt Romney.
00:09:50.000So you can't make the argument that purity goes out the window
00:09:54.000Just for your guy, meaning that if the idea that the purity, you weren't pure enough when you were when you were for McCain and Romney and therefore you have to stick by Trump.
00:10:03.000That's like saying that there's no such thing as grades in school, right?
00:10:06.000Nobody got an A, therefore everybody got an F. That's not true.
00:10:10.000Okay, John McCain was not conservative enough.
00:10:33.000If we're going to talk about ignoring the will of the people, it's the Trump supporters who are saying to all the conservatives, jump on border, get out.
00:10:40.000We're not even going to try and make overtures to you.
00:11:08.000The one thing that he said that's honest there is when he says, I'm a Republican, but there's a Republican Party, but it's not a conservative party.
00:11:54.000You can't use an ideological litmus test for me not being conservative enough when your guy is out there saying we're not a conservative party.
00:12:01.000And by the way, you don't get to claim that I'm ideologically unable to write Trump off when he did this over the weekend.
00:12:08.000So here is Donald Trump, and again, he's unacceptable as a conservative.
00:13:27.000The idea that he's going out there and he's already pre-negotiating the deal for Democrats, right?
00:13:31.000He's negotiating against himself, supposedly, unless he's really not negotiating against himself, unless what he really believes is that taxes should go up on the wealthy.
00:13:38.000This is the guy that I'm not a real conservative if I don't support?
00:13:41.000If a real conservative would support this guy?
00:13:43.000Here's Donald Trump on minimum wage yesterday.
00:13:46.000I have seen what's going on, and I don't know how people make it on $7.25 an hour.
00:13:53.000Now, with that being said, I would like to see an increase of some magnitude, but I'd rather leave it to the states.
00:13:59.000Let the states decide, because don't forget, the states have to compete with each other.
00:14:04.000But should the federal government set a floor?
00:14:39.000It's like saying, you know, I really think that partial birth abortion should be banned across the country, and there's already laws on the books dealing with this.
00:14:46.000And I don't know how anybody could believe otherwise.
00:14:58.000Donald Trump is not a federalist in any sense.
00:15:00.000Donald Trump is—he goes federalist when it's convenient for him not to get in trouble for his big government's ideas, but the fact is that, you know, there would be pressure—does that sound like a man who would veto a bill to raise the federal minimum wage to $10 an hour?
00:15:14.000Does that sound- because he's not going to initiate the bill, but does that sound like someone who'd veto it?
00:15:17.000It would come on his desk and he'd say, no, we're leaving it to the states.
00:16:29.000The Times and others wrote, oh, Trump wants to go and see creditors and buy debt at a discount.
00:16:36.000Now, there could even be a time when somebody comes in, but with the government, they're never going to walk in and say, do me a favor, would you buy my debt at a discount?
00:16:43.000In business, that happens all the time.
00:16:44.000I bought mortgages back when the market went bad.
00:16:47.000I bought mortgages back at tremendous discounts.
00:17:20.000What he's saying, and what he's been saying, is, well, if there are countries that we owe massive debt, and we don't want to pay them back, we'll go to them and we'll say to them, we may owe you $100, but we're going to give you $80.
00:17:33.000Because maybe we'll go bankrupt and you'll be paid nothing.
00:17:35.000Or maybe we'll inflate our way out of it and we'll pay less.
00:17:39.000Right, and then he says, oh no, I never said that.
00:17:40.000I said what I really mean is that we can always just inflate our way out of it.
00:17:43.000Which is a way of paying back discounted debt.
00:17:46.000If you print dollars, if I owe you a hundred dollars, and I say to you, okay, here's two choices.
00:17:51.000You're either gonna take eighty dollars, or I'm gonna go in my back room, I'm gonna print out a stack of money, and I'm gonna hand it to you.
00:17:55.000It's not worth anything, but I'm gonna hand it to you, and it'll say a hundred on it.
00:17:59.000That's a way of negotiating down your debt.
00:18:01.000He does want to negotiate down the debt, or he wants to inflate our way out of it.
00:18:04.000The idea, we're going to inflate our way out of a $19 trillion debt.
00:18:08.000If you like what's happening in Venezuela, where nobody has any money, where life savings are now worth zero, if you like what happened in the Weimar Republic, where people are pushing around wheelbarrows full of cash money in order to get loaves of bread, then you'll love Donald Trump's economic plan.
00:18:26.000We should default on our current, we should default on our debt, we should inflate our currency.
00:18:30.000I mean, this is economic illiteracy at its finest.
00:18:34.000There are a lot of people who believe that it was inflation, it was our sort of inflationary monetary policy that led to the Great Depression, and then tariffs that exacerbated it, and higher taxes.
00:18:42.000Trump wants to do all three of those things.
00:19:14.000And he's a commentator, kind of a left-leaning Republican commentator.
00:19:17.000And he says that the real problem, when you get right down to it, is Trump's voters.
00:19:21.000In the end, people did vote for him, and you have to blame the voters for some of the stuff.
00:19:24.000And this is an argument that I want to talk about for just a moment.
00:19:27.000Here's Matthew Dowd making that case on ABC News yesterday.
00:19:31.000Well I think actually the breach isn't between fundamentally between some levels of the GOP elite and Donald Trump.
00:19:37.000The breach is between various members of the elite and the GOP voters.
00:19:39.000I think the problem for the GOP elite right now is the
00:19:55.000GOP voters have basically spoken and that Donald Trump represents their party.
00:19:59.000And I think Paul Ryan and others in the party have to decide if the Republican Party as it is today, represented by Donald Trump, is their party anymore.
00:20:08.000Donald Trump isn't the problem for the GOP elite.
00:20:10.000The Republican voters are the problem for the GOP elite.
00:20:14.000Okay, so he says that the voters in the end are the ones who are responsible for this.
00:20:44.000What should they have been doing that they didn't do?
00:20:46.000What should they have been doing that they didn't do?
00:20:48.000So I hear, you know, Mitt Romney, he just talked about globalization, but he never talked about the impact of globalization on these impoverished communities in Ohio and Pennsylvania, these kind of white impoverished manufacturing communities.
00:21:30.000And if you offer some 55-year-old guy who's been working at a car factory his entire life, oh, now we're going to send you to Seattle and you're going to learn how to work at Microsoft, he's going to look at you like you're nuts.
00:21:43.000Okay, so what are Republicans supposed to do?
00:21:46.000Presumably, they're supposed to lie to people.
00:21:47.000Presumably, they're supposed to tell them that government is the solution, that they can do something for them, the way that Democrats do.
00:21:53.000They should treat white working-class voters the same way that Democrats treat black working-class and unemployed voters, and say, we're going to either give you money, or we're going to create tariffs that bring your industry back, which will not happen, by the way, or we're going to somehow help you specifically.
00:22:08.000I'm going to do for you what we do for the ethanol guys in Iowa, with the farmers in Iowa.
00:22:17.000We can lie to white working class voters.
00:22:19.000We can tell them that free trade is bad and that we need to protect these industries and that your job is going to come back if we somehow keep out world competition and if we impoverish consumers in the United States.
00:22:32.000Or we can recognize that this three-legged stool that so many Republicans are throwing out, that was the reason white working-class voters voted Republican in the first place.
00:22:42.000So let's take a quick trip through history.
00:22:44.000So the idea is that white working-class voters, they abandoned the Republican Party when Republicans started going in favor of free trade.
00:22:52.000That it was NAFTA and all of the outsourcing and a free world economy that was free, even though NAFTA and a freer world economy led to massively increased standards of living.
00:23:02.000Okay, that's the argument, that the Republicans lost those votes.
00:23:06.000The reality is that white working class voters always, always could get more stuff from the government if they voted for Democrats.
00:24:01.000It was priorities other than the government is going to save my job that led to these white working-class voters embracing the Republican Party.
00:24:19.000He doesn't know anything about the pro-life position.
00:24:21.000He's certainly not ardently pro-life, and he doesn't talk about it.
00:24:24.000He's certainly not anti-same-sex marriage, even though he says he is.
00:24:27.000Everybody knows that he's lying about it the same way Obama did.
00:24:29.000When he talks about men going into women's bathrooms, he said that it's silly for people not to allow this, and he said he would allow it at Trump Tower.
00:24:36.000Right, so Donald Trump has taken the social issues off the table, just the way the establishment wings of the coast say that we should.
00:24:42.000They've taken these issues off the table, just like the Romney campaign.
00:24:45.000The Romney campaign boiled down to economics, and he lost by 5 million votes, and all these white working-class voters stayed home.
00:25:23.000Everyone who wants stuff from the government wants to be lied to that mommy and daddy are the government and they're going to take care of us and they're gonna fix all of our problems.
00:26:03.000So there were people on the coast who didn't believe in Republican social policy, but they agreed hawkish foreign policy and decent free economics.
00:26:10.000There were people in the middle of the country who believed hawkish foreign policy and social conservative.
00:26:23.000The people who ignored social conservatism, there were the people who ignored the foreign policy conservatism, there were the libertarians or the religious conservatives who didn't like what's going on in foreign policy, but they like free economics and they also like the social policy.
00:26:35.000Those people are a little bit rarer, the kind of isolationists.
00:26:57.000So Donald Trump is building a new coalition.
00:26:59.000The new coalition is people who are for big government involvement in the economy, people who don't care about social policy, and people who are isolationist on foreign policy.
00:27:07.000So basically the only difference between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, on policy anyway, is that Donald Trump is more isolationist on foreign policy than she is.
00:27:15.000And that she will be more active in some of these other spheres than he will, but they basically believe the same things.
00:27:20.000He's just more isolationist and he's gonna run from her left.
00:28:05.000Donald Trump, as I've said for a long time, he's really good at a couple of things.
00:28:08.000One of the things he's good at is manipulating the media.
00:28:11.000He's very, very good at manipulating the media.
00:28:13.000But I think it's important for his followers to note that when he's picking fights with people, he's doing it... I don't fully believe him here.
00:28:20.000I think that Donald Trump, in the end, says he's an entertainer.
00:28:23.000I think Donald Trump is personally offended, and then he hides behind, I'm an entertainer, in order to cover his personal offense.
00:28:29.000Just the way that Jon Stewart is a leftist, and then he uses comedy as his sort of clown nose on routine.
00:32:09.000Some of the stuff is said as, you know, an entertainer because I have The Apprentice, or some of it was said in fun with certain shows like Howard Stern, who's a friend of mine.
00:32:20.000And I'll tell you what... So you're not worried about the tapes of that coming back?
00:32:26.000Everything that he said about women being flat-chested, not being tens, and women should be treated like crap, and Megyn Kelly bleeding from her wherever.
00:32:40.000But this is the beauty of being Trump.
00:32:43.000When it comes to the media, which is an entertainment business, he can hide behind the I'm an entertainment spiel, I'm an entertainer spiel, to say really quite terrible things, and even get away with stupidities like this.
00:32:53.000So, there's an evangelical leader named Russell Moore, and Russell Moore has come out very, very strong against Donald Trump.
00:33:00.000And Russell Moore had tweeted that he didn't think that Trump was a good candidate, and Donald Trump tweeted back at him.
00:34:30.000But this whole, whenever I say anything that's unpleasant, I'm an entertainer.
00:34:34.000And whenever I say anything that's not unpleasant, that's me being presidential.
00:34:37.000And it's not gonna wash when he has power.
00:34:39.000All of that said, Trump could still beat Hillary because Hillary is so terrible at all of this.
00:34:44.000Hillary is, she doesn't know how to handle Trump in any way.
00:34:47.000So here is Hillary trying to fly above all of this.
00:34:49.000Donald Trump just doesn't understand how government works.
00:34:52.000And you combine that with a lot of what he has said about foreign policy, and then recently economic policy, when he said he'd renegotiate the national debt.
00:35:03.000Maybe he just doesn't understand that running our government is not the same as making real estate deals, that putting the full faith and credit of the United States of America at risk would be a horrible
00:35:46.000First of all, folks, you should subscribe so you can see all of these clips because when I comment on what people look like, I just want you to know how accurate I'm being.
00:35:58.000They did some injections in her face and they made her up.
00:36:01.000And she looks like what a person looks like when they're in the coffin and people are walking by and going, Oh, she just, she looks so beautiful.
00:39:15.000And all of you Trumpists who are going around proclaiming that Trump is your father, you're a sad little person if you believe that you need a politician to be your daddy.
00:39:24.000You know, if your daddy abandoned you and now you're looking for a father and a guy who has created and abandoned many of his own children, I don't think that you're looking in the right place for love.
00:39:33.000You want to know where fascism comes from?
00:39:34.000You don't want to know where Der Fuehrer kind of language comes from?
00:39:37.000It comes from a group of people who don't believe in family values, who don't actually have parents.
00:39:41.000This idea that you need a mother in the form of Hillary Clinton because you didn't have a mother of your own?
00:39:57.000One of the reasons that Trump is seeing so much success
00:40:00.000Is that the Obama administration has sort of created Trump.
00:40:04.000I mentioned this up top, that the Obama administration's lies and their prevarications, they've created Trumpism.
00:40:09.000More evidence of that over the weekend.
00:40:10.000John Kerry, the Secretary of State, he says that in his commencement address, he says it's time to prepare for a world without borders.
00:40:19.000There are no walls big enough to stop people from anywhere tens of thousands of miles away who are determined to take their own lives while they target others.
00:40:30.000Not in a clash of civilizations, but in an assault, a raw assault on civilization itself.
00:40:39.000So I think that everything that we've lived and learned tells us that we will never come out on top if we accept advice from soundbite salesmen and carnival barkers.
00:40:50.000Who pretend the most powerful country on earth can remain great by looking inward and hiding behind walls at a time that technology has made that impossible to do and unwise to even attempt.
00:41:04.000The future demands from us... Okay, so the idea of a borderless world, this one world notion pushed by the left,
00:41:13.000What is also wrong and scary is the idea that America should be completely insular, that we should have no trade with other countries, that we shouldn't have commerce with other countries, that we can be non-involved in the world and that we can remove ourselves from the international sphere and things will be okay.
00:41:28.000You've got the extreme manifestations on this score, right?
00:41:32.000You've got the European far right saying nobody gets in, nobody gets out, and you've got people on the extreme far left saying everybody gets in,
00:41:40.000And basically, everybody gets in and no one gets out, is sort of the extreme far-left statement, because if everybody gets in, there's no place for anybody else to be.
00:41:48.000So, Kerryism creates the reaction of Trumpism.
00:41:52.000So, Trumpism isn't coming from nowhere, but it certainly isn't coming from a conservative place, to come full circle on this topic.
00:41:57.000It's not coming from a place of, true conservatives have to side behind Trump, because he's a conservative guy.
00:42:02.000It's coming from a reactionary thing to the left, and them saying, okay, well we're still reacting against the left, why don't you side with us?
00:42:08.000And the answer is, because a lot of what you represent is still the left, and a lot of what you represent is still bad.
00:42:14.000Just because you're anti- The friend of my friend is not necessarily- The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
00:42:20.000Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is also another enemy.
00:42:23.000It's possible the enemy of your enemy can also be another enemy.
00:42:26.000There's more than two sides in this particular political debate.
00:42:29.000When it comes to the Constitution, the Constitution has two enemies running for higher office at this point.
00:42:34.000Okay, time for a couple of things that I like and then a couple of things that I hate really quickly.
00:42:59.000And I overprepare when I when I go for these things, so I brought like five books.
00:43:04.000Thank God it was a short labor, or relatively short labor, and my wife's water broke like 1230 at night.
00:43:11.000We go into the hospital and and then nothing was happening so they had to give her some Pitocin to push it forward and from there it moved very quickly and baby was born, all healthy, great.
00:44:19.000And she looks at the baby, and she gets the most contemplative, sad look on her face.
00:44:24.000Like, everything just changed, and you can see the wheels turning, and it was just... She gets very quiet, and just stares at him, kind of taking it in.
00:44:32.000My wife started crying, it was really sad.
00:44:34.000It's like, it is... When you have a new baby, it's really... Especially a second baby.
00:44:38.000I mean, these are things I'm just learning, because they're happening to me now.
00:46:21.000So, the federal government is now going after the state of North Carolina because they think that boys should be able to pee next to girls and the men should be able to pee next to women.
00:46:30.000And one of the stupider arguments that I've heard is the argument you're about to hear right here from Chris Wallace at Fox News.
00:46:35.000This is to the North Carolina governor.
00:46:38.000All of this is happening, of course, in North Carolina.
00:46:40.000Pat McCrory is the name of the governor.
00:46:59.000How many cases have you had in North Carolina in the last year where people have been convicted of using transgender protections to commit crimes in bathrooms?
00:47:18.000Have there been any cases in the last five years?
00:47:20.000Why did the Democratic Party in Houston, Texas
00:47:23.000But I guess the question is, forgive me if I may, sir, why not just then let it go if there's not a case of transgender people going in and molesting little girls?
00:48:17.000Who started it was the political left in Houston, Texas, then Charlotte, North Carolina, and now, frankly, in Washington, D.C.
00:48:26.000Okay, so, here's the part of this that's so stupid.
00:48:28.000You've got all these people on the left there saying, when's the last time a transgender man went into a women's restroom and harassed a woman?
00:48:34.000The answer is, not often, because men are not allowed in women's bathrooms.
00:48:41.000If there's a law against beating puppies to death, it turns out that if you remove that law from the books, and then you say, well, have we had a lot of cases?
00:48:48.000Have we had a lot of cases of people beating puppies to death with tire irons?
00:49:20.000Right, because there's a law against murder.
00:49:22.000I mean, this is the stupidest, it's legitimately the stupidest argument ever.
00:49:25.000This argument, like, it doesn't happen often, therefore there shouldn't be a law against it.
00:49:29.000Maybe it's not happening because men don't go into women's bathrooms, because if that happened, someone would report them to the police.
00:49:35.000Whereas now, we're going to add this to the new regime of political correctness, where a man walks into a bathroom, and my wife has to consider, am I gonna be socially sanctioned if I go outside and I say to the police officer, there's a man in the bathroom?
00:49:47.000And then he comes out and says, no, I'm a woman.
00:50:10.000That said, men and women, there can't be any discrimination on the basis of sex, not in employment, but just generally.
00:50:16.000No law can treat men and women differently.
00:50:18.000And Phyllis Schlafly, who was at that time the leader of the anti-ERA movement, the Equal Rights Amendment movement, she said what's going to happen is they're going to get rid of separate genders.
00:50:35.000And here's my final parting question on this.
00:50:38.000Why am I supposed to feel safer with a mentally ill man in the bathroom with my wife than with a mentally whole man in the bathroom with my wife?
00:50:45.000There's a guy in there who's dressed in a dress.
00:51:01.000But for the left, the idea is the destruction of sex and gender in order so they can create their more equal world where no categories exist.