The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 117 - Paul Ryan Gets Trump-curious

00:00:00.000 On Thursday, The Wrap reported on a new book by Ian Halperin.

00:00:03.000 He's the author of a book called Kardashian Dynasty, the controversial rise of America's royal family.

00:00:09.000 The book claims that, quote, multiple sources told him that the former Olympian had been miserable for months and has now considered transitioning back to being a man.

00:00:17.000 According to Halperin, quote, one source confirmed to me, Caitlyn has made whispers of sex change regret, hinting she might go back to being Bruce Jenner. 0.52

00:00:25.000 Jenner says Halperin could, quote-unquote, detransition, which would be admitting he's a man, within the next couple of years.

00:00:31.000 So, this means there are two possible Caitlyn Jenner stories.

00:00:34.000 Story one, a mentally ill man, thought he was a woman, was reinforced in this perspective by a perverse sick media and a pathetic medical establishment, urging him to overrule his own second thought, underwent surgery and hormone therapy, realized surgery and hormone therapy don't cure mental illness, now regrets his suffering and is finally considering detransitioning.

00:00:53.000 Story number two. 0.69

00:00:54.000 A man magically became a woman. 0.87

00:00:56.000 The woman now magically wants to become a man. 1.00

00:00:59.000 You get to pick.

00:01:00.000 Pick one of those stories.

00:01:00.000 Those are the only two stories.

00:01:02.000 The Department of Justice says Americans should be forced to embrace story number two.

00:01:06.000 Instead of recognizing the reality of mental illness and media exploitation, we'll all be told to repeat story number two until it becomes second nature, or we'll be called bigots and have our businesses and our states boycotted, or we'll be fined by the government.

00:01:19.000 The reality of sex and the reality of mental illness, these have to be memory hold, just gotten rid of.

00:01:24.000 Those who suffer from mental illness must believe, we have to drive them to believe fictions about their own sex, and we must be forced to embrace their mental illness as reality. 0.92

00:01:35.000 So, here are three truths that could have stopped this charade if society actually cared about truth.

00:01:40.000 Truth number one, suicide rates among transgenders do not decrease thanks to sex change surgery.

00:01:46.000 Suicide rates among transgender don't drop after surgery. 1.00

00:01:49.000 41% of transgender people attempt suicide sometime in their life.

00:01:53.000 That's compared to 4.6% of the general population.

00:01:56.000 It's 10 times higher.

00:01:57.000 The suicide rate among transgender people who say they are never identified as transgender is 46%.

00:02:03.000 Okay, that's people who are not being harassed because nobody can identify them as transgender.

00:02:08.000 45% of transgender people who undergo hormone therapy attempt suicide.

00:02:12.000 That's higher than the general transgender suicide rate.

00:02:15.000 And by the way, really, really high comorbidity between transgenderism and depression and suicidality generally.

00:02:22.000 Number two.

00:02:22.000 Most children who are supposedly transgender grow out of these feelings.

00:02:26.000 Dr. Paul McHugh is a former head of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University.

00:02:29.000 He finds 70 to 80 percent of all children with transgender feelings grow out of it. 0.93

00:02:35.000 This is important because the media have already told parents that children confused about their sex should consider whether they're transgender.

00:02:42.000 Truth number three.

00:02:43.000 Transgender regret is a very real thing.

00:02:46.000 Walter is a man who underwent sex change surgery and then regretted it, and he wrote at The Federalist, quote, Considering the findings of a 2011 Swedish study published seven years after the 2004 UK review, it looked at the mortality and morbidity

00:03:06.000 After gender reassignment surgery, it found people who changed genders had a higher risk of suicide.

00:03:12.000 In that study, all the sex reassigned persons in Sweden from 1973 to 2003, that's 191 male to females, 133 female to males, were compared to a comparable random group.

00:03:24.000 The sex reassigned persons had substantially higher rates of death from cardiovascular disease and suicide, substantially higher rates of attempted suicide.

00:03:32.000 Gender surgery is not effective treatment for depression, anxiety, or mental disorders.

00:03:39.000 And by the way, folks, Jenner showed early signs of regret.

00:03:42.000 Remember that Vanity Fair piece?

00:03:43.000 He was on the cover of Vanity Fair looking all purdy.

00:03:46.000 Well, here's what it actually said in that Vanity Fair piece.

00:03:48.000 It's a direct quote from the piece.

00:03:49.000 Quote.

00:03:50.000 Caitlin went into the long hallway and paced back and forth on the dark wood floor, where not even the footsteps made a sound.

00:03:56.000 The panic attack lasted about 15 seconds, but a single thought continued to course through her mind.

00:04:01.000 Quote,

00:04:05.000 A counselor from the LA Gender Center came over to the house so Caitlyn could talk to someone with professional expertise.

00:04:11.000 The counselor helped ease her mind.

00:04:13.000 She said such reactions were often induced by the pain medication.

00:04:16.000 She also said such second-guessing was human and temporary.

00:04:19.000 The thought has since passed and has not come back.

00:04:21.000 There's no buyer's remorse.

00:04:22.000 This is from Vanity Fair.

00:04:23.000 Not that it matters anyway, because there's no turning back.

00:04:27.000 So Caitlyn Jenner can't switch back because the media would have a field day and make Caitlyn Jenner out to be some sort of sex traitor to femalehood or something. 1.00

00:04:35.000 The media and the Obama administration have a narrative.

00:04:37.000 Sex doesn't exist.

00:04:38.000 But it does exist, and it isn't malleable.

00:04:41.000 Caitlyn Jenner was always a man, no matter what he chose to call himself.

00:04:44.000 If the media force him into a lifetime of suffering just to double down on their own cruelty, his suffering is at least partially on them.

00:04:52.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:04:52.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:04:59.000 Okay, so here we are, and it is a Thursday.

00:05:03.000 We've reached the end of the week, which is exciting for me because this weekend is going to be my son's circumcision ceremony.

00:05:08.000 It's his brit milah, his bris, and we'll be doing that on Saturday, so that's exciting.

00:05:12.000 I want to talk a little bit more about that later if we are not cut off short.

00:05:16.000 Okay, we are also going to be talking momentarily about Paul Ryan.

00:05:21.000 And his meeting with Donald Trump.

00:05:22.000 So why don't we just jump in with that.

00:05:24.000 So, there was a big buildup to this meeting between Paul Ryan and Donald Trump.

00:05:27.000 You remember that Paul Ryan, the Speaker of the House, he said he wasn't sure he could get behind Donald Trump.

00:05:32.000 And a lot of people said, right, because you're conservative, or at least semi-conservative, and Trump isn't.

00:05:37.000 You're in favor of entitlement reform.

00:05:38.000 Trump says he'll uphold all the entitlements.

00:05:40.000 And the entire Trump side of the Republican Party went ape.

00:05:44.000 And they lost their minds.

00:05:46.000 Paul Ryan says, we don't need Paul Ryan.

00:05:47.000 Screw Paul Ryan, we don't need him.

00:05:49.000 Sarah Palin, who's become the screeching, harpy voice of the Trump right, she writes, quote, Trump has a powwow with unsupportive GOP-E, that's GOP establishment, House leader Paul Ryan today, anticipate Ryan, after following crucifiers of our conservative frontrunner and all of his early supporters, to now position himself as the leader of these political wussies to the cool kids table.

00:06:10.000 Typical politics.

00:06:11.000 Makes me ill.

00:06:12.000 Donald J. Trump can't capitulate.

00:06:14.000 Crucifiers of Trump?

00:06:16.000 Crucifier?

00:06:16.000 Is he Jesus now?

00:06:18.000 Crucifying Donald J. Trump?

00:06:20.000 I mean, I understand, by the way, Donald Trump's father, his middle name was Christ.

00:06:22.000 His name was literally Fred Christ Trump.

00:06:25.000 So, Donald Trump is the grandson of God, apparently. 0.98

00:06:27.000 But, aside from that, this is, I mean, this is ridiculous stuff. 0.86

00:06:30.000 So, you've got people on the Trump right who are saying, Oh, well, Paul Ryan, you know, we don't need him. 0.83

00:06:35.000 We don't need him in the first place.

00:06:36.000 But they're going crazy over it.

00:06:37.000 So, at the same time, they say,

00:06:39.000 We don't need Paul Ryan.

00:06:40.000 They're saying, oh, well, Paul Ryan's awful.

00:06:41.000 It's so awful.

00:06:42.000 It just drives us nuts that he won't join us in any way.

00:06:45.000 Eric Trump, who is Donald Trump's son, he said that Donald Trump doesn't need Paul Ryan's endorsement.

00:06:52.000 So Fortune magazine has a piece out today that says this.

00:06:55.000 Trump badly needs Speaker Ryan's endorsement.

00:06:59.000 Do you agree with that?

00:06:59.000 Listen, I don't think so, right?

00:07:00.000 He's got tens and tens of millions of votes.

00:07:02.000 I mean, he's really run away with this.

00:07:04.000 He has more votes than any Republican in any primary, you know, ever.

00:07:07.000 I mean, the guy's done an incredible job.

00:07:09.000 He really has grown the party.

00:07:10.000 He has brought the party together, for whatever that's worth.

00:07:13.000 And, listen, if he doesn't have the Speaker's vote, if he doesn't have the, you know, his will, or whatever it may be, we'll go on, right?

00:07:19.000 And those people will continue to march behind my father.

00:07:21.000 Would it be nice?

00:07:21.000 Yes.

00:07:22.000 Is the ultimate goal to beat Hillary Clinton?

00:07:24.000 Yes, that's everybody's goal.

00:07:25.000 No one wants her to be President. 1.00

00:07:27.000 It would be an absolute disaster.

00:07:29.000 So everybody should band together, and they should march forward.

00:07:32.000 If he doesn't have it, will life go on?

00:07:34.000 Absolutely.

00:07:34.000 So we don't need, we don't need Paul Ryan.

00:07:36.000 Like, we'd like it, but we don't need Paul Ryan. 0.98

00:07:38.000 Mike Huckabee, who just got destroyed in this primary race, but now is back because he's the most sycophantic, ridiculous Trump supporter. 0.95

00:07:45.000 He and Chris Christie are competing for this. 0.95

00:07:47.000 Two heavyweights.

00:07:48.000 Kind of, they're kind of the sumo, the people in the sumo suits who are knocking each other over at a kid's party. 0.97

00:07:54.000 So they're competing to be the biggest suck up to Trump. 0.97

00:07:56.000 So here's Mike Huckabee on Fox News sucking up to Trump. 0.98

00:07:59.000 I'm not sure what

00:08:01.000 Paul Ryan's thoughts are here.

00:08:03.000 He's a good guy, and I respect him, and he's a very respected guy within the party, but I don't think he fully understands how angry people in the party are at all of the people in Washington, including him, for such things as the trade deal, immigration policies, Syrian refugee relocation, Planned Parenthood funding, the Iranian deal.

00:08:26.000 All of these things have

00:08:29.000 Really become the reasons that Donald Trump is the nominee right now.

00:08:32.000 And for him to act like, well, I'm going to have to bring him to the table.

00:08:36.000 No, actually, I think they need to come to the table and say, we surrender.

00:08:40.000 We obviously have messed up.

00:08:43.000 And we need to understand what you understand about what the voters are asking for.

00:08:48.000 Okay, so he needs to come to the table.

00:08:50.000 He needs to surrender.

00:08:51.000 So there's this call from the Trump people for Ryan to surrender.

00:08:54.000 Now, there are two ways that Trump could have played this.

00:08:56.000 I mean, that Ryan could have played this.

00:08:57.000 Number one, he could have just come out in favor of Trump originally.

00:09:01.000 He could have done the Bobby Jindal routine. 0.98

00:09:03.000 I think Donald Trump stinks, and therefore I'm going to vote for him because at least he doesn't stink as much as Hillary Clinton, right? 1.00

00:09:08.000 He's a flaming bag of dog crap, but he's our flaming bag of dog crap. 1.00

00:09:11.000 That could have been the Paul Ryan response to Donald Trump. 1.00

00:09:15.000 I would have disagreed, but it would have been typical.

00:09:18.000 Or he could have said, I'm not going to back Donald Trump because I find him utterly unpalatable and I think that he's a smear on our brand.

00:09:23.000 He could have said that too.

00:09:24.000 Instead, he chose a third way.

00:09:26.000 So there's all this big media buildup, all this massive media buildup to this big meeting between Paul Ryan and Donald Trump.

00:09:32.000 Trump goes to Washington DC to meet with the Speaker of the House and he's ushered in by apparently a guy who was straight from the old Judaic temple, ushering him in with a ram's horn.

00:09:46.000 And chanting and singing for his god king, Donald Trump.

00:09:50.000 This is a guy who I've started calling folks like this Trumpsexuals. 0.96

00:09:55.000 He's a Trumpsexual, this fellow. 0.99

00:09:57.000 And he is horny for Trump, apparently. 0.99

00:09:59.000 So here he is, standing outside and singing to Donald Trump. 0.81

00:10:04.000 He sings a worship song to Donald Trump.

00:10:07.000 And it's pretty absurd.

00:10:29.000 Yes!

00:10:30.000 So, God Emperor Trump ushered in by his horn-playing barbarians, and it's very, very exciting stuff. 0.91

00:10:37.000 So again, the Trumpsexuals, they have very specific turn-ons, by the way, the Trumpsexuals. 0.90

00:10:40.000 They're like stubby fingers, the color orange, dominant-submissive roleplay. 0.97

00:10:44.000 And they are also big fans of taking tons of sexy positions on various issues. 0.98

00:10:48.000 So that's the Trump sexuals.

00:10:52.000 And so he's ushered into all of this.

00:10:53.000 They have their secret meeting, their clandestine meeting between Paul Ryan and Donald Trump.

00:10:57.000 And Reince Priebus, who has now become the lackey to the kingdom of Trumpkins, he comes out and he says,

00:11:04.000 The only way to really fully enjoy the kind of insanity that you're watching here is to take Trump up on his proposal that basically this is just a giant reality show.

00:11:13.000 That's the only way to really enjoy all of this.

00:11:15.000 So if you see it that way, Reince Priebus is basically the host.

00:11:19.000 I feel like a couples therapist.

00:11:34.000 No, you know what?

00:11:35.000 You wouldn't say that if you were in the room.

00:11:36.000 It was great.

00:11:39.000 It had very good chemistry between the two of them.

00:11:44.000 Like I said before, I don't want to be repetitive, but it can only be described as positive.

00:11:46.000 I can't imagine two more different kinds of people than Donald Trump and Paul Ryan.

00:11:50.000 They had good chemistry?

00:11:53.000 It was positive, it was give and take, and it was also something that I think if anyone was a fly on the wall would agree with everything that I'm saying.

00:12:00.000 But you are a fly on the wall, so what else can you tell us?

00:12:02.000 I can't say a whole lot.

00:12:03.000 Look, I've got to honor confidentiality.

00:12:06.000 I'm not going to say a peep about any specifics that were discussed.

00:12:09.000 Can you just talk broadly?

00:12:10.000 Did they discuss tone and tenor, the things that Ryan has said publicly that he's not thrilled with?

00:12:16.000 Did they discuss the policy differences, both?

00:12:19.000 Look, I hate to spoil the fun, but I'm just not going to get into the details other than to say that, um, it was, uh, it was a meeting that I think went as well as I would have hoped.

00:12:29.000 Okay.

00:12:29.000 As I toss it back, you expect an endorsement soon from Paul Ryan now?

00:12:33.000 Uh, you know, look, like I said, it was a great first step toward unifying the party.

00:12:37.000 And I think if you read both of the statements that came out of Speaker's office and Donald Trump's campaign, they echo the same feeling.

00:12:44.000 Okay.

00:12:44.000 So in other words, it was just a first date, but they're not ready for the fantasy suite yet.

00:12:49.000 That's where we are right now, so apparently Ryan is not ready to take him up on the fantasy suite, and where they go into the jacuzzi and massage each other's back.

00:12:57.000 They're not quite there yet, but they had great chemistry, and he was given a rose, so that just means that we'll have future episodes of this particular season of The Bachelor, and we'll have to tell you whether Ryan chooses Trump or Trump chooses Ryan, it's all very exciting.

00:13:11.000 Ryan then comes out looking like something from a hostage video.

00:13:14.000 I mean, honest to God, straight from a hostage video.

00:13:17.000 The hostage videos are piling up here.

00:13:18.000 You've got Chris Christie from his hostage video, and you've had Ben Carson from his hostage video, and now you have Paul Ryan from his hostage video.

00:13:26.000 The hostage videos at the hands of Donald Trump just keep piling up.

00:13:30.000 Here is Paul Ryan at his press conference talking about his bachelor experience with Donald Trump. 0.72

00:13:37.000 What the hell, people? 0.55

00:13:39.000 Seriously? 0.92

00:13:40.000 Okay, just play it.

00:13:42.000 I was very encouraged with what I heard from Donald Trump today.

00:13:46.000 I do believe that we are now planting the seeds to get ourselves unified, to bridge the gaps and differences.

00:13:53.000 And so from here, we're going to go deeper into the policy areas to see where that common ground is and how we can make sure that we're operating off these same core principles.

00:14:02.000 This is our first meeting.

00:14:03.000 I was very encouraged with this meeting.

00:14:05.000 But this is a process.

00:14:06.000 It takes a little time.

00:14:08.000 You don't put it together in 45 minutes.

00:14:10.000 So that is why we had, like I said, a very good start to a process on how we unify.

00:14:16.000 And it's very important that we don't fake unifying, we don't pretend unification, that we truly and actually unify so that we are full strength in the fall.

00:14:26.000 There are policy disputes that we will have.

00:14:28.000 There's no two ways about it.

00:14:30.000 Plenty of Republicans disagree with one another on policy disputes.

00:14:34.000 Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

00:14:52.000 Raymond Shaw is the bravest, kindest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

00:14:56.000 I said Raymond Shaw is the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

00:15:02.000 So, I actually had a very pleasant exchange with him.

00:15:05.000 Look, there are just things we really believe in as conservatives.

00:15:08.000 We believe in limited government.

00:15:09.000 We believe in the Constitution.

00:15:11.000 We believe in the proper role of the differences in the separation of powers.

00:15:15.000 We believe in things like life.

00:15:17.000 I know not everyone is pro-choice in our party, and we accept all comers, but we are a majority pro-life party, and these are things that are important to us.

00:15:25.000 has gotten more votes than any Republican primary nominee marked right in the history of our country.

00:15:33.000 And this isn't even over yet.

00:15:34.000 He hasn't even gone to, like, California yet.

00:15:36.000 So it's really a remarkable achievement.

00:15:39.000 So the question is, and this is what we think we can be a party to helping, how do we unify it all?

00:15:45.000 So this is really a big and growing movement.

00:15:47.000 How do we keep adding and adding and adding voters while not subtracting any voters?

00:15:52.000 And to me, that means a positive vision based on core principles, taking those principles, applying them to the problems facing our country today, and offering people positive solutions, and speaking to people where they are in life, addressing their anxieties, and show that we have a better plan. 0.99

00:16:08.000 Okay, so, there are a bunch of things that he says there, all of them are stupid. 0.95

00:16:11.000 So, my favorite, of course, is the part where we clipped in, for those who missed it and you're not watching, you missed the joke, but it's from the Manchurian candidate, okay? 0.99

00:16:19.000 In the Manchurian candidate, a bunch of U.S.

00:16:21.000 soldiers are kidnapped by the communists, and they are programmed, they're brainwashed.

00:16:25.000 To be at the behest of the bad person in the movie, but one of the things they're trying to say is they're trying to say that one of the guys from their squad is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most generous human being I've ever met in my life, right?

00:16:38.000 This is what they're...

00:16:40.000 Train to say.

00:16:41.000 And you can see it from from Ryan, right?

00:16:42.000 He doesn't believe that Donald Trump is a very warm and genuine human being.

00:16:45.000 Come on.

00:16:46.000 Come on.

00:16:47.000 And then when he says my favorite thing here, my favorite thing is when he says that we're not going to just compromise for the sake of compromising.

00:16:52.000 We're not just going to cave for the sake of caving.

00:16:54.000 But I can tell you that Donald Trump and we agree on limited government and we agree on the Constitution.

00:17:00.000 Wait, what?

00:17:02.000 Uh, no you don't.

00:17:04.000 No you don't.

00:17:05.000 Donald Trump doesn't know the word constitution because it has four syllables.

00:17:09.000 Okay, Donald Trump doesn't know what the constitution is or what it says.

00:17:12.000 He has never uttered the words limited government.

00:17:14.000 He doesn't know what a limited executive looks like.

00:17:16.000 He thinks that judges, justices on the Supreme Court investigate people like Hillary Clinton.

00:17:20.000 He thinks the President of the United States can unilaterally cut trade deals.

00:17:24.000 He thinks the President of the United States has the capacity to unilaterally make policy

00:17:29.000 On domestic issues like punishing corporations and raising taxes.

00:17:35.000 This is all insanity, but what's happening here is that Ryan really has no choice on a practical level.

00:17:41.000 He has a choice, but he's not going to make it.

00:17:43.000 He feels like his power is tied up in the House majority for Republicans, which is true.

00:17:48.000 If Donald Trump doesn't get any votes, nobody's going to show up to vote down ballot either.

00:17:52.000 He's afraid he loses power in the House, and then he becomes quasi irrelevant.

00:17:55.000 He becomes the

00:17:57.000 Minority leader again, instead of the Speaker of the House.

00:17:59.000 So, he's playing this game, and it's the same game that he's played with President Obama a thousand times, and the Republicans constantly play with Democrats.

00:18:06.000 In this case, Trump is the Democrat, because Trump is a Democrat.

00:18:09.000 And the game that they play is play, fight, and surrender.

00:18:12.000 It's play, fight, and surrender.

00:18:14.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:18:14.000 I don't know if I can side with Donald Trump.

00:18:16.000 I don't know if I can do this.

00:18:17.000 And then, well, but we really have to unify.

00:18:19.000 It's really important that we unify.

00:18:20.000 I think that we really have to unify.

00:18:21.000 And then it is, well, he's making some overtures to me.

00:18:24.000 I'm really feeling a lot better about things now.

00:18:26.000 I really think that things are going well.

00:18:28.000 I think that we're really going to get together here.

00:18:30.000 So it transitions from opposition to agreement in the matter of a week, right?

00:18:34.000 Because a week ago, he was saying he couldn't support him.

00:18:35.000 Now it's obvious he's going to end up supporting him.

00:18:38.000 And it's just a matter of Trump

00:18:40.000 And whether Trump is willing to say a couple of conciliatory things before he reverses himself and says zero conciliatory things.

00:18:46.000 I also like the part in this press conference where Paul Ryan said, our policy teams are going to get together.

00:18:52.000 Somebody said to me today, okay, well, you know, you should really stop complaining about Trump, and you should work on working with his policy team.

00:18:59.000 Donald Trump does not have a policy team.

00:19:01.000 He has a group of people who write positions that he ignores at will and has never read.

00:19:05.000 And Donald Trump doesn't even know his own tax plan, which is why he's disassociated from it.

00:19:08.000 He doesn't know his own immigration plan, which is why in the middle of a debate, he disassociated from his own immigration plan.

00:19:14.000 Donald Trump doesn't do policy.

00:19:16.000 It's not something he's interested in.

00:19:17.000 He doesn't do the Constitution.

00:19:18.000 Donald Trump, like Woody Allen, does himself.

00:19:21.000 That's all he does. 0.99

00:19:23.000 So the idea that Donald Trump is suddenly going to become a policy wonk and you'll be able to convince him to be a conservative Republican... Again, I prefer Bobby Jindal's, he's a sack of crap, but he's my sack of crap, to 0.99

00:19:35.000 No, he's really conservative. 0.98

00:19:37.000 We're just sort of working on him, sort of moving him that way.

00:19:39.000 So they issued a joint statement, did the two of them, Paul Ryan and Donald Trump, from the fantasy suite of the bachelor room.

00:19:46.000 And here's what the statement said.

00:19:47.000 It said,

00:19:55.000 That Republicans unite around our shared principles, advance a conservative agenda, and do all we can to win this fall.

00:20:00.000 What's fun about this joint statement is you can actually see which person wrote which part of the statement.

00:20:04.000 So, the first couple of sentences are all Paul Ryan, right?

00:20:07.000 Because he used words like shared principles, conservative agenda, right?

00:20:10.000 Those are things that Trump has never talked about.

00:20:13.000 Trump is the guy who said on Sunday, it's the Republican Party, not the conservative party.

00:20:17.000 The statement continues.

00:20:18.000 This is still, this is still Paul Ryan writing here, right?

00:20:20.000 Few differences?

00:20:21.000 Few differences?

00:20:31.000 Name issues on which you have complete agreement.

00:20:34.000 Can we start on that?

00:20:35.000 He mentions pro-life there.

00:20:36.000 Donald Trump isn't pro-life.

00:20:37.000 Anybody who believes that Donald Trump is gonna push pro-life principles is out of his mind.

00:20:42.000 Out of his mind.

00:20:42.000 Okay, the only thing Donald Trump might do that Hillary Clinton wouldn't is if there was some magic move and suddenly Republicans kept the House and Senate and the presidency and they passed some sort of pro-life bill.

00:20:53.000 Maybe then he would sign it, but that's not gonna happen.

00:20:55.000 Come on.

00:20:55.000 Let's get real.

00:20:56.000 He's not gonna appoint pro-life judges.

00:20:57.000 He doesn't even know what that means.

00:20:59.000 The statement continues.

00:21:01.000 That's a Trump sentence, right?

00:21:02.000 Because it has the word totally.

00:21:05.000 So that means that we're totally committed to working together to achieve that goal.

00:21:09.000 This is Trump saying, yeah, I already shlonged Paul Ryan.

00:21:11.000 He's on my side now.

00:21:12.000 I've already co-opted him.

00:21:12.000 He's on my side.

00:21:13.000 And all the rest of this is optics.

00:21:24.000 It continues, we are extremely proud of the fact that many millions of new voters have entered the primary system far more than ever before in the Republican Party's history.

00:21:31.000 Trump sentence, right?

00:21:32.000 I mean, he uses this in all of his rallies.

00:21:34.000 And so he says that he's added many new voters.

00:21:37.000 Ann Coulter today tweeted out, you know, it doesn't really matter if Paul Ryan backs Donald Trump.

00:21:41.000 Donald Trump has won 10 million votes.

00:21:43.000 10 million, 10.7, 10.8 million votes.

00:21:44.000 What's it gonna matter?

00:21:45.000 What does it matter?

00:21:48.000 And, that is, legitimately, that is 4% of the electorate.

00:21:52.000 4% of the electorate.

00:21:53.000 Okay, so before we get all hot and bothered about him winning 10 million votes, understand, Bernie Sanders will finish the Democratic primaries with probably as many votes as Donald Trump.

00:22:02.000 And he's gonna lose.

00:22:03.000 So the idea that Donald Trump is just some world-beater when it comes to driving vote, yes, both for and against.

00:22:10.000 A record number of voters voted against Donald Trump, too.

00:22:12.000 Final sentence, this was our first meeting, but it was a very positive step toward unification, and we look very much forward to sharing chocolates and bath oils in the fantasy suite.

00:22:21.000 So that final sentence was the Paul Ryan sentence.

00:22:25.000 Okay, so, they're all coming together now, and they're unifying, and it's just glorious,

00:22:30.000 And as I say, this is more damaging to the conservative cause because Paul Ryan played this game.

00:22:33.000 Again, Paul Ryan saying, I don't like Donald Trump very much, but he's our guy.

00:22:46.000 That would be better for conservatism than, he's actually conservative.

00:22:50.000 No, he isn't.

00:22:51.000 He doesn't hold conservative positions. 0.87

00:22:53.000 And you perverting the ideal of conservatism in order to fit your guy is gross. 0.82

00:22:57.000 So, listen.

00:22:58.000 I voted for Mitt Romney in 2012.

00:22:59.000 I also said, I made the argument people are now making about Trump.

00:23:03.000 I don't think it applies to Trump.

00:23:04.000 I think it did apply to Romney.

00:23:05.000 He's not fully conservative.

00:23:07.000 He's much better than the other person.

00:23:08.000 I don't think Trump is much better than the other person.

00:23:10.000 I think he's probably going to lose anyway.

00:23:12.000 And beyond that, I think that he's really, really bad for our argument that we're not a bunch of racist bigot nativists who hate trade and are know-nothings about politics.

00:23:21.000 I don't think he's helpful to that at all.

00:23:23.000 I think he's gonna be a smear that we're gonna be running down the rest of our lives.

00:23:26.000 Okay, so meanwhile, Donald Trump

00:23:29.000 As we said yesterday, he takes every position on every issue.

00:23:31.000 This is one of the things that Trump sexuals like about him, is that he has more positions than the Kama Sutra.

00:23:36.000 He said all of this within... So first, let's flashback.

00:23:41.000 December of 2015.

00:23:42.000 Here's Donald Trump talking about banning all Muslim immigration to the United States in debate.

00:23:47.000 We are not talking about isolation.

00:23:49.000 We're talking about security.

00:23:51.000 We're not talking about religion.

00:23:53.000 We're talking about security.

00:23:55.000 Our country is out of control.

00:23:57.000 People are pouring across the southern border.

00:24:00.000 I will build a wall.

00:24:01.000 It'll be a great wall.

00:24:03.000 People will not come in unless they come in illegally. 0.98

00:24:06.000 Drugs will not pour through that wall.

00:24:08.000 As far as other people, like in the migration, where they're going, tens of thousands of people having cell phones with ISIS flags on them, I don't think so, Wolf.

00:24:19.000 They're not coming to this country. 1.00

00:24:21.000 And if I'm president, and if Obama has brought some to this country, they are leaving.

00:24:26.000 They're going.

00:24:27.000 They're gone.

00:24:28.000 Okay, so he says all that and what he means, and as he said, like very strongly at the time, no Muslims in, right?

00:24:33.000 No Muslims in. 1.00

00:24:34.000 This was his policy proposal. 0.98

00:24:36.000 And as I said at the time, radical Islam provides a danger to the United States. 1.00

00:24:40.000 That means that our screening procedures should be more strenuous for Muslims trying to enter the United States because radical Islam is a subset of Islam. 1.00

00:24:48.000 It doesn't mean that no Muslims ever get into the United States.

00:24:50.000 I mean, there are Muslims who serve in the United States military.

00:24:53.000 There are Muslims on our police forces.

00:24:55.000 It means that you can apply different levels of scrutiny to people based on their ideology.

00:24:58.000 But this is like saying there should have been no German immigrants during World War II.

00:25:02.000 Well, it turns out that there are many types of German immigrants, right?

00:25:04.000 Including Jews who are trying to escape. 0.99

00:25:05.000 There are Muslims who are trying to escape from Syria who may not be the world's worst people, but we have to check them out.

00:25:11.000 We have to do what we can.

00:25:11.000 And if we can't check them out, then tie goes to the you don't get in, right?

00:25:15.000 I mean, if we don't know, you don't get in.

00:25:17.000 So Trump says that.

00:25:18.000 He's very strong on it.

00:25:19.000 Then there's a lot of blowback.

00:25:21.000 And he gives the same defense of this that he gave about, that we heard him give yesterday, about his ripping on John McCain and POWs.

00:25:27.000 He said this back in March.

00:25:29.000 He said, well, when I said it, it was popular.

00:25:31.000 My polls went up, so it must mean I'm right.

00:25:34.000 It's a disgrace what's going on.

00:25:35.000 We have a serious, serious problem.

00:25:38.000 And when I called for a temporary ban, I thought that was a very bad thing for me to do politically, but I felt I should do it.

00:25:44.000 And I didn't know that I would go up in the poll as opposed to down.

00:25:48.000 I did that because I really felt there had to be something done.

00:25:51.000 Okay, there had to be something done, but he didn't know he was going to go up in the polls.

00:25:54.000 But now that he's gone up in the polls, everything is hunky-dory, the world has turned in its orbit again, and everything is fine.

00:26:00.000 By the way, this notion, we talked about it yesterday at length, the kind of might-makes-right notion of Trump, the idea that what he does is popular and therefore it's okay?

00:26:08.000 is so antithetical, really antithetical, to what the founders stood for.

00:26:13.000 So I just want to read you this quote from James Madison.

00:26:16.000 Okay, this is written in 1786.

00:26:18.000 James Madison to James Monroe, both of them would later be presidents.

00:26:21.000 James Madison wrote, quote,

00:26:34.000 It would be the interest of the majority in every community to despoil and enslave the minority of individuals, and in a federal community to make a similar sacrifice of the minority of component states. 0.88

00:26:43.000 In fact, it is only reestablishing, under another name and a more specious form, force as the measure of right.

00:26:49.000 That's what James Madison had to say back in 1787, 1786, around the time of the Constitution, about this idea that the majority always ought to rule and the majority is always right.

00:26:58.000 So that's nonsense.

00:26:59.000 Okay, so anyway, Trump says all this stuff, he says it makes me popular, and now he's gonna give you another position.

00:27:04.000 If you didn't like those two positions, you could just wait for five minutes.

00:27:07.000 Here is his new position on the Muslim ban.

00:27:10.000 Have you decided whether you'll back off on the ban?

00:27:12.000 I realize it was a temporary ban, but that temporary period could go on forever.

00:27:18.000 No, it was never meant to be.

00:27:21.000 I mean, that's why it was temporary.

00:27:22.000 Sure, I'd back off on it.

00:27:23.000 I'd like to back off as soon as possible because, frankly, I would like to see something happen, but we have to be vigilant.

00:27:29.000 There is a radical Islamic terrorism problem that our president doesn't even want to talk about.

00:27:35.000 All you have to do is take a look at the World Trade Center.

00:27:37.000 Take a look at San Bernardino or Paris, what a disaster that was.

00:27:42.000 And so many other locations.

00:27:43.000 Just last night in Germany, look what happened on the train.

00:27:47.000 And it's a big problem.

00:27:48.000 People will have to solve the problem.

00:27:50.000 But I think by putting together a commission, a group of people that are highly respected in this field, like Rudy and others, I think that could lead to something pretty good.

00:28:00.000 The ban the way it's described, even as a temporary ban, would have, for instance, barred Amir Hekmati, the Marine who was over in Iran, held prisoner.

00:28:09.000 He wouldn't be able to come back.

00:28:10.000 And the Muslims who are serving in our military overseas, they wouldn't come back. 1.00

00:28:13.000 No, they would all come back.

00:28:15.000 I mean, we have exceptions, and again, it's temporary, and ultimately, it's my aim to have it lifted.

00:28:20.000 Now, right now, there is no ban, but I would like to see, there has to be an idea, there has to be something, because there are some pretty bad things going on, and I have Muslim friends, great Muslim friends, who are telling me, you are so right, it's, there's something going on that we have to get to the bottom of. 0.69

00:28:36.000 Okay, so he says he's sort of backing off of it now.

00:28:39.000 I'd like to get rid of it.

00:28:40.000 I'd like to get rid of it as soon as humanly possible.

00:28:42.000 Just like all of his other policy positions, just to recount this week, he's flipped on minimum wage twice.

00:28:46.000 Yesterday, he flipped again, right?

00:28:48.000 He said he was against minimum wage, then he said he was for minimum wage, then he said he was against minimum wage again, and late last night,

00:28:54.000 He tweeted that he is for minimum wage again.

00:28:55.000 So he's taken four positions on minimum wage in the last week.

00:28:58.000 He's flipped on taxes twice this week.

00:29:00.000 He's flipped on his pro-life positions multiple times during this campaign.

00:29:04.000 He's now flipped on the Muslim ban.

00:29:06.000 It's gonna be real awkward for all you immigration folks when he flips on the wall too. 0.95

00:29:10.000 Because the fact is, let's be real about something.

00:29:12.000 Donald Trump, the real fact is about immigration, building the wall is great, I'm for it.

00:29:17.000 If you're not going to deport the people who arrive at the wall, none of it means anything.

00:29:21.000 None of it means anything.

00:29:22.000 If you're not deporting anyone, what's happening right now is people are waiting across the Rio Grande and flagging down ICE officers knowing they will not be deported.

00:29:30.000 So we'll see if Trump has the guts to actually deport people.

00:29:32.000 I don't think he does.

00:29:33.000 I think that he'll reverse himself on that when he realizes that it's unpopular and makes him look bad.

00:29:37.000 So anyway, there's Donald Trump reversing himself on policy once again.

00:29:40.000 That's the guy that Paul Ryan says he can trust.

00:29:43.000 We can make a deal with that guy.

00:29:44.000 Peace in our time.

00:29:45.000 I mean, he comes out of that meeting waving a paper and shouting, conservative peace in our time.

00:29:49.000 Yeah, I kind of doubt it.

00:29:50.000 Meanwhile, it's so clear that everybody has a different standard for Trump than any other politician in the race.

00:29:56.000 So Mitt Romney, so yesterday Trump said again he's not going to release his tax returns. 1.00

00:29:59.000 And he gave this nonsense, garbage, stupid answer. 1.00

00:30:02.000 And it is stupid. 1.00

00:30:03.000 That he's being audited so he can't release his tax returns. 1.00

00:30:05.000 This is the dumbest thing ever. 0.97

00:30:06.000 You can release whatever you want. 0.98

00:30:07.000 There is no provision of an audit that says that you cannot actually release your tax returns to the public.

00:30:14.000 There's nothing there that says it.

00:30:16.000 And there are probably a number of reasons why he doesn't want to release the tax returns.

00:30:19.000 It probably shows he doesn't give a lot of charity, for one.

00:30:21.000 It probably shows his income is not nearly what he says it is, for two.

00:30:23.000 It probably shows that his wealth level is certainly not what he says it is, for three.

00:30:27.000 There are probably a bunch of things on there that he doesn't like and doesn't want to show.

00:30:30.000 When Mitt Romney came out yesterday and he said, well, we really should just

00:30:35.000 Force him to do it.

00:30:36.000 It's inappropriate for anybody not to release their tax returns.

00:30:38.000 You remember Mitt Romney got smacked with this in 2012 and ended up releasing his tax returns because there was so much pressure.

00:30:45.000 Former presidential nominee Mitt Romney says Donald Trump's refusal to release his tax returns is, quote, disqualifying.

00:30:52.000 In a Facebook post, Romney, a longtime Trump critic, says, quote, it is disqualifying for a modern-day presidential nominee to refuse to release tax returns to the voters, especially one who has not been subject to public scrutiny in either public military or public service.

00:31:08.000 Okay, so there's a guy who actually has seen Trump's tax returns?

00:31:27.000 And he says he saw because Trump sued him for libel because he said that Trump was worth less money than Trump said he was worth.

00:31:32.000 The case was dismissed.

00:31:33.000 He says that this is what Trump does.

00:31:35.000 He doesn't like what you say.

00:31:36.000 I mean, I'm expecting a lawsuit at any time from Donald Trump.

00:31:39.000 He doesn't like what you say.

00:31:40.000 He tries to find an excuse to sue you.

00:31:42.000 I don't think Donald Trump is worth $10 billion.

00:31:44.000 I think he's closer.

00:31:45.000 To a couple of billion, if that.

00:31:46.000 I really don't think that he's anywhere near the kind of wealth he's talking about.

00:31:49.000 What this guy says, he says, it's under court order so I can't talk about what's in there.

00:31:53.000 He says, here are some of the questions that will be answered by his tax return.

00:31:56.000 This is the way he puts it.

00:31:57.000 He says, Trump has made the size of his fortune a centerpiece of his presidential campaign, implying it's a measure of his success as a businessman.

00:32:04.000 He said Trump is not responding to requests for income statements.

00:32:07.000 Business activities.

00:32:08.000 He won't make clear how many people he actually hires.

00:32:10.000 Charitable giving.

00:32:11.000 Tax planning.

00:32:12.000 Is he using Overshore's contingencies in order to shield his income?

00:32:16.000 Transparency and accountability.

00:32:19.000 How transparent is he with the tax authorities?

00:32:21.000 So, all these questions remain unanswered.

00:32:24.000 But it doesn't matter to all of the Trumpkins. 0.81

00:32:26.000 The Trumpsexuals are ardently in love with him. 0.84

00:32:29.000 And if you want to see this in action, Bill O'Reilly,

00:32:33.000 Is there anything that Trump has done or said so far in the campaign that you disapproved of?

00:32:52.000 There are a number of things that I would, well I'm not going to give them to you.

00:32:56.000 Why not?

00:32:56.000 Because you'd be just like the rest of those guys in the national media.

00:32:59.000 You'd just focus on it.

00:33:00.000 Instead of talking about America first foreign policy.

00:33:03.000 I'm asking you.

00:33:03.000 Instead of talking about border security.

00:33:06.000 I'm asking you.

00:33:06.000 Free and fair trade.

00:33:07.000 Are you kidding me?

00:33:08.000 You know where I stand on all of those issues.

00:33:11.000 I'm asking you, as an analyst, if there's one thing that Trump has said or done.

00:33:16.000 You yourself said it.

00:33:17.000 I am a superstar host of an important podcast on the Fox Business Network.

00:33:22.000 You are not willing to say one thing.

00:33:25.000 It would be so miniscule amongst the many things.

00:33:27.000 Miniscule.

00:33:28.000 So bright and so impactful that he is proposing.

00:33:33.000 Why would you even be interested in such insignificant things?

00:33:36.000 So are you one of his VP picks?

00:33:38.000 You know what?

00:33:40.000 I mean, really, I mean, you know, there's nothing you will say.

00:33:44.000 He made me promise not to admit that I'm being vetted carefully for the vice president.

00:33:49.000 Now you know after, and Dobbs is an honest guy.

00:33:52.000 I applaud his honesty.

00:33:53.000 But you know you're going to get hammered.

00:33:54.000 You're going to get people going, how can you analyze this?

00:33:57.000 How?

00:33:57.000 You and I. How?

00:33:58.000 There's nothing that he does if he's Jesus!

00:34:02.000 How can you analyze them?

00:34:04.000 How can I analyze them?

00:34:05.000 Because I have a superior mind that competes, I think, well, at least fairly favorably with your own, August Eminem.

00:34:15.000 Alright, so let's just recap.

00:34:18.000 So he's Jesus, and they're joking about how he's Jesus and no one can criticize Donald Trump under any circumstances.

00:34:23.000 He is a Christ figure, and that means that he's being crucified according to Sarah Palin, and he cannot be criticized according to... By the way, Jesus himself was probably cool with being criticized, right?

00:34:34.000 Because if he was, in fact, as the Christians claim, the Son of God, God can take it, it turns out. 0.83

00:34:40.000 But the whole thing is just insanity at this point.

00:34:43.000 That's the story with Trump and Paul Ryan and the continuing worship for the Trump train.

00:34:49.000 Get on or we run over.

00:34:50.000 Is there spiel?

00:34:51.000 Kneel before Zod 2016.

00:34:54.000 Those of us who refuse to kneel because we believe in principle, well, I guess that we'll just be left out in the cold.

00:34:58.000 And you know what?

00:34:58.000 We can deal with that.

00:34:59.000 Okay, time for some things that I like and time for some things that I hate and then mailbag.

00:35:03.000 Okay, so things I like.

00:35:04.000 Best series ever on television in the history of TV is the series Band of Brothers.

00:35:08.000 If you haven't seen it, you need to go get it right now.

00:35:10.000 It is a tremendous, tremendous series.

00:35:12.000 They made a sequel called The Pacific, which is not good.

00:35:14.000 Don't bother with that.

00:35:15.000 But Band of Brothers is really, really good.

00:35:17.000 It's about the war in Europe, and it stars Damien Lewis, who would go on to be in everything from Wolf Hall to Homeland.

00:35:25.000 Really good actor.

00:35:27.000 And it's beautifully shot.

00:35:28.000 Nothing will give you... You put this on Blu-ray and you watch this, nothing gives you the sensation of what the danger and chaos of war must be like more than this series.

00:35:36.000 Here's a little bit of the preview.

00:35:38.000 Each trooper will learn this operation by heart, and know his and every other outfit's mission to the detail.

00:35:46.000 We will drop behind this Atlantic wall five hours before the 4th Infantry lands at Utah.

00:35:53.000 Easy Company will destroy that garrison.

00:36:18.000 How many of you decide to join the paratroopers?

00:36:21.000 Not one to fight with the best, sir.

00:36:45.000 A magnificent piece of work.

00:36:47.000 I mean, it's based on Stephen Ambrose's Band of Brothers, and it's really a magnificent piece of work.

00:36:50.000 It starts from literally boot camp all the way through to the end of the war.

00:36:55.000 And it's an amazing, amazing... It's much better than Saving Private Ryan.

00:36:58.000 I know people love Saving Private Ryan.

00:36:59.000 This is much, much better than Saving Private Ryan.

00:37:01.000 It's more complete.

00:37:02.000 It's more comprehensive.

00:37:03.000 All right, and it's better, just from a dramatic and a visual standpoint.

00:37:06.000 It's just as good as Saving Private Ryan from a visual standpoint, and it's better written and better acted.

00:37:11.000 So it's a really, really good piece of work.

00:37:12.000 Okay, so things that I hate.

00:37:14.000 So over the last couple of days, Joe Biden has been out there talking, and one of the things he's been talking about is what he likes to call the Cancer Moonshot.

00:37:22.000 Well, I didn't know cancer was on the moon, but there you have it.

00:37:24.000 So the Cancer Moonshot.

00:37:25.000 This is the idea that we're gonna spend inordinate amounts of federal money in order to research cancer treatments and end the cancer.

00:37:33.000 Here's, we'll listen to Joe Biden talk about it for a second, then I'll tell you what I don't like about this.

00:37:36.000 Here's Joe Biden.

00:37:37.000 I've committed, and I promise before we leave, we will mow down any of the impediments that exist bureaucratically in the federal government to slow up the process.

00:37:48.000 So cooperation is one key.

00:37:51.000 Money.

00:37:52.000 Money is a key.

00:37:53.000 And I know that you've asked for a billion dollars.

00:37:55.000 We will get a billion dollars because this is the, I've been doing this a long time.

00:38:00.000 This is a truly bipartisan issue.

00:38:03.000 Okay, so it's a bipartisan issue.

00:38:04.000 You'll get lots and lots of money.

00:38:06.000 The barrier... There's always this idea on the left, and it's easy to fall into on the right, too, that all the differences between us curing cancer and not curing cancer is just throwing money at the problem from a federal government perspective.

00:38:17.000 It isn't true.

00:38:18.000 It isn't true.

00:38:19.000 There are certain areas in which the federal government is useful and good, although they screw it up a lot, too, like vaccinations, for example.

00:38:25.000 Production of vaccinations during an emergency.

00:38:27.000 There have been times in American history where we've gone into production on vaccines and it's been a complete waste of time, like in the 1970s.

00:38:34.000 When it comes to cancer, first of all, people think of cancer as one disease.

00:38:37.000 It isn't.

00:38:37.000 It's an enormous spectrum of diseases.

00:38:39.000 There are many different types of cancer.

00:38:41.000 I'm speaking as somebody, you know, my aunt died at 42 of cancer, of breast cancer.

00:38:45.000 My other aunt had a preliminary double mastectomy because she was afraid of getting cancer. 0.99

00:38:49.000 My grandfather died of cancer.

00:38:51.000 My father has had a melanoma.

00:38:52.000 Like, this is, you know, this...

00:38:55.000 Is something that everybody in the United States has experienced.

00:38:58.000 What I'm saying here is I don't like the idea that government is God and if we just give it enough power, it'll cure cancer for us.

00:39:03.000 It's not true.

00:39:05.000 What's actually going to cure cancer is not the kind of things the federal government is doing, but the things that the federal government hates on.

00:39:11.000 Like the pharmaceutical companies, the drug companies that actually produce the research that leads to practical results.

00:39:16.000 So what the federal government does, they fund grants.

00:39:18.000 My wife works in the medical industry.

00:39:20.000 She's worked at a lab.

00:39:21.000 This is true.

00:39:22.000 They fund grants.

00:39:23.000 The grants are for broad-based research.

00:39:25.000 The idea is supposed to be that this broad-based research is then used to create the drugs that we use to treat the disease.

00:39:31.000 That is very infrequent.

00:39:33.000 Usually the way medicines are developed is that it's trial and error, right?

00:39:36.000 This is why you have animal trials.

00:39:37.000 It's not like, oh, we're going to go at it conceptually, a priori, blank slate, we just come in, tabula rasa, and we just create it out of our mind.

00:39:46.000 Instead, what it is, is here's a cancer, we know it exists, let's try a bunch of different things on it and see what works.

00:39:50.000 That's how can-

00:39:52.000 Medicine is stumbling through the dark.

00:39:54.000 Science is stumbling through the dark.

00:39:55.000 That's why the scientific method of hypothesis and failure is the way it is.

00:40:01.000 It's not come up with a great idea in your head and then later see if it works.

00:40:04.000 It's we try it.

00:40:05.000 If it fails, we come up with another hypothesis.

00:40:07.000 If it fails, we come up with another hypothesis.

00:40:09.000 So even from that perspective, the idea of mass federal funding is actually a relatively large waste of money.

00:40:14.000 Certainly the idea of punishing pharmaceutical companies

00:40:17.000 Which is so near and dear to Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton and probably to Donald Trump as well.

00:40:22.000 This idea is actually horrible because those pharmaceutical companies create the exact drugs that you are going to need if God forbid something happens to you.

00:40:29.000 Okay.

00:40:30.000 Time for the mailbag.

00:40:31.000 So it is a Thursday.

00:40:32.000 The vaunted mailbag.

00:40:33.000 Alright.

00:40:34.000 So, Sylvia writes, Well, you use it as a vehicle.

00:40:35.000 So just like any other political vehicle, the idea is that you nominate candidates inside the Republican Party in order to take advantage of their infrastructure.

00:40:55.000 Think of the Republican Party as a car that can be driven in many different directions, but we have to determine who the driver is going to be. 0.96

00:41:01.000 The reason I'm not going to get in the passenger seat right now is because Donald Trump was chosen as the driver, and that dude be crazy.

00:41:07.000 So I'm not going to ride over the cliff with him Thelma and Louise style in the name of unity with the car.

00:41:12.000 That's not something I'm interested in doing.

00:41:13.000 Who drives the car matters to me a lot more than the car itself.

00:41:18.000 Matthew writes...

00:41:38.000 When we can watch a woman undress in her own changing room and call her degrading names if she doesn't like it, then make her leave, it's safe to say the victory is ours. 1.00

00:41:45.000 It is true the new patriarchy wears a dress.

00:41:47.000 I think we can all agree this is a small price to pay for all the implied benefits.

00:41:51.000 That is obviously sarcastic and Matthew funny email.

00:41:54.000 Yes, it turns out that if you want to destroy the notion of femininity and destroy what it means to be a female, just say that anyone can be one if they say they're one.

00:42:02.000 Okay, as I said, I watched my wife actually give birth to a child the other day. 1.00

00:42:06.000 Caitlyn Jenner never did and does not belong to the same sex as my wife, and if you think this, you are clinically stupid. 1.00

00:42:12.000 Okay, you are a clinically stupid human being. 1.00

00:42:15.000 I don't even need to meet you. 1.00

00:42:16.000 I can diagnose you right now. 1.00

00:42:17.000 You are dumb, or you're letting ideology blind you to the point where it makes you dumb. 1.00

00:42:21.000 So this is, so it is amazing. 1.00

00:42:23.000 But yes, get rid of all the standards, by the way, and men will win everything. 1.00

00:42:26.000 Right?

00:42:27.000 Really?

00:42:27.000 You get rid of all the standards?

00:42:28.000 Because it turns out, for example, in the workplace, you're not going to need maternity leave.

00:42:32.000 It's just going to be whoever works the hardest.

00:42:33.000 Right?

00:42:34.000 My wife is off work.

00:42:35.000 She specifically took off more time.

00:42:38.000 She took off a year with our first baby.

00:42:39.000 She created her schedule so that she could have more time with this baby, and she's taking maternity leave right at the beginning of her new job. 0.99

00:42:46.000 Right?

00:42:46.000 I took off, let's see, the baby was born on Saturday, so I took off Sunday, just like I do every week.

00:42:51.000 Right?

00:42:51.000 And then I was here on Monday doing this podcast.

00:42:54.000 If you level the playing field to the extent that the transgender advocates seem to want, where we're all held to the same standard, and if we get rid of the differing standards for men and women, then I'm not sure women are going to like the outcome of this. 0.51

00:43:06.000 As I've said before, transgenderism kills feminism dead. 1.00

00:43:09.000 Okay, Eric says, 0.99

00:43:24.000 I.e.

00:43:25.000 genitalia and biology. 0.76

00:43:26.000 I assume this is a red herring or a category error on their part.

00:43:29.000 I'd like to hear your thoughts nonetheless.

00:43:31.000 Okay, so people have said this about, for example, Kleinfelter syndrome, where somebody is born with XXY genetics.

00:43:36.000 By the way, Kleinfelter's always register as males.

00:43:39.000 If you have a Y chromosome, almost, as far as I know, invariably you register as a male.

00:43:44.000 So the idea of hermaphrodites, people who are androgynous, this goes all the way back to Talmudic times.

00:43:49.000 I mean, this is actually mentioned in the Talmud on many occasions.

00:43:53.000 The idea here is not that the categories don't exist.

00:43:56.000 It's that you have people who are exceptions to the rule.

00:43:58.000 That doesn't mean the rule doesn't exist.

00:44:00.000 Right?

00:44:00.000 If I say to you, all human beings have two eyes, and you say, well, that's not true.

00:44:03.000 There are people who are born with three.

00:44:05.000 There are people who are born with one.

00:44:07.000 Yes, that's true.

00:44:08.000 Does that mean that human beings don't have two eyes?

00:44:12.000 No, it doesn't mean that.

00:44:12.000 It means there are exceptions to every rule.

00:44:14.000 It doesn't mean that the rule doesn't exist.

00:44:17.000 To every rule, you can find an exception.

00:44:19.000 To virtually every rule, there is an exception.

00:44:22.000 There are folks who don't fit into either category.

00:44:23.000 That doesn't mean the categories don't exist.

00:44:25.000 This is one of the stupidest things the left does, is to say that the exception means that the rule no longer exists. 0.97

00:44:30.000 This is silly towns. 0.99

00:44:31.000 As I said about same-sex marriage, people use this on same-sex marriage. 0.96

00:44:34.000 When I say marriage is about the production and rearing of children, and they say, well, what about infertile couples? 0.96

00:44:39.000 Okay, you're right.

00:44:40.000 Infertile couples cannot produce and rear children. 1.00

00:44:42.000 That does not mean that the category of male-female does not exist anymore when it comes to producing and rearing children.

00:44:48.000 As I said in a column long ago, okay, this is similar to the argument that you have a car, the ignition on the car is broken.

00:44:54.000 Thus, it is perfectly viable to suggest to everyone that it is just as effective to put the key in the tailpipe.

00:45:00.000 No.

00:45:01.000 False.

00:45:01.000 This is not how it works, right?

00:45:02.000 It just means that your car is broken.

00:45:04.000 It doesn't mean that all cars are broken or all cars operate by putting the key in the tailpipe.

00:45:08.000 Okay.

00:45:09.000 Let's see.

00:45:10.000 Matt asks about Austin Peterson, who's a libertarian candidate, getting a lot of questions about this.

00:45:14.000 So my problems with Austin Peterson are that I don't agree with Austin Peterson on national defense and the military.

00:45:20.000 He's isolationist like Ron Paul.

00:45:22.000 I don't agree with him when it comes to abortion because while he says that he is anti-abortion, he does not really

00:45:30.000 He doesn't really say anything about it, is the truth.

00:45:33.000 He's a libertarian on that.

00:45:34.000 He's defending life.

00:45:35.000 It says, encourage a culture of life adoption and educate Americans about the consistent pro-life ethic, which means abolishing the death penalty.

00:45:41.000 This is from his website.

00:45:43.000 Yeah, it requires more than a culture of life.

00:45:45.000 It requires that the government prosecute abortionists who kill babies, right?

00:45:49.000 On crime and punishment, he believes that we ought to basically let a lot of prisoners out.

00:45:54.000 I'm not in favor of the war on drugs generally, but when it comes to people who are distributing hard drugs to children, they should be in jail.

00:46:00.000 So, there are a lot of problems that I have with some of the libertarian positions.

00:46:04.000 I agree with some of them, I really disagree with some of them.

00:46:09.000 You know, Austin Peterson is probably better than Trump, but he's not a conservative, he's a libertarian, and I have significant disagreements with the libertarians.

00:46:17.000 Okay, I have a couple questions on Judaism.

00:46:18.000 I don't know how to pronounce this name, I think it's Siabhan?

00:46:22.000 Not sure.

00:46:22.000 It says, uh, Hi Ben, congratulations on the birth of your son.

00:46:25.000 My question stems from curiosity about Shabbat.

00:46:27.000 This is Jewish Sabbath.

00:46:29.000 I understand Shabbat rituals include not touching electricity or driving a car or using a telephone, having grown up near the Orthodox synagogue in Newton, Massachusetts.

00:46:36.000 Do emergencies preclude the observation of rituals, or are such emergencies mitigating actors?

00:46:41.000 How did that work?

00:46:42.000 So here's how it works.

00:46:42.000 So there's a basic rule in Judaism.

00:46:44.000 It's called pikuach nefesh, and this means that if a life is in danger, then you're allowed to violate the Sabbath. 0.75

00:46:49.000 So, I was allowed to take my wife and I was allowed to jump in the car in an emergency and drive to the hospital.

00:46:55.000 During the actual procedure, during her labor, we didn't use my phone.

00:47:00.000 There was a doula there who used my phone to kind of notify people, friends and family what was going on.

00:47:05.000 But I didn't use my phone, we didn't play music, we didn't use electricity, we did not write, we minimized everything that would be violating Sabbath.

00:47:13.000 But if you have to break Sabbath in order to save a life or protect health, then you're allowed to do that, and it is save a life, is the general standard.

00:47:20.000 So that's the standard there.

00:47:21.000 Okay, speaking of which, as I mentioned, circumcision is happening on Saturday.

00:47:25.000 A quick word about circumcision, and as I said before, for those who want to cut this off early, enjoy.

00:47:30.000 So the reason for circumcision... 0.67

00:47:34.000 The basic spiritual concept of circumcision, unlike female circumcision, which does actual damage to a human being, permanent damage that cripples women for life. 0.63

00:47:43.000 Male circumcision has never crippled anybody for life.

00:47:45.000 Everything is in working order and everything feels great.

00:47:47.000 So, you don't have to worry about that.

00:47:49.000 From the medical perspective, most doctors still say circumcision is more healthy than non-circumcision.

00:47:54.000 It lowers the rates of STDs and penile cancer. 0.80

00:47:57.000 Putting aside the science, the spiritual rationale behind circumcision in the Bible is the idea that if there's one driving force for masculinity, it is the penis, okay? 0.99

00:48:05.000 This is just... men think with their penis far too often, okay? 0.98

00:48:09.000 Your passions control you. 0.99

00:48:11.000 The idea behind circumcision is that you are marking yourself and you are dedicating your highest passions, the things that drive you the most, and the things that can get you in trouble the most, to God.

00:48:23.000 It's the idea that you're now able to... you're supposed to control yourself.

00:48:27.000 Every time you look at yourself, presumably, it's a reminder that you are dedicated not to your own hedonism, but to the God who created you, and that's what it's all about.

00:48:36.000 And that's why one of the blessings that we say over at the circumcision, I'm looking it up right now so I get the text exactly right, because I'll be saying this in a couple of days, so I want to make sure that I get it right when I actually do, is there's a blessing.

00:48:49.000 And what we say is, what we say is, blessed are you, Lord our God, King of the Universe, who has sanctified us with his commandments and commanded us concerning circumcision.

00:48:57.000 By the way, cool thing about circumcision in Jewish law, it always happens on day eight. 0.97

00:49:01.000 Day eight is the day in a human being's life when your clotting factors, vitamin K in your blood, is the highest of any time it will ever be in your life.

00:49:09.000 Which is a cool thing.

00:49:10.000 So what you actually say is you say, and then you say about your son, just as he was introduced into the covenant, so may he enter the Torah, marriage, and good deeds.

00:49:20.000 So that's what you say.

00:49:22.000 And that's the idea here, is that you're entering him into a covenant with God, which means subjecting your own passions, subsuming your own passions for the glorification of God.

00:49:31.000 And notice the importance of those three things, right?

00:49:34.000 Torah, which is our rule book, marriage, which is how you become a better person and generate children,

00:49:39.000 And good deeds.

00:49:40.000 And the idea, again, is that your passions should be secondary.

00:49:42.000 Your own personal passions should be secondary to your observance of godly law and making the world a better place according to that law.

00:49:50.000 So as I tweeted earlier today, he who controls himself, he who masters himself, has no master but God.

00:49:56.000 So on that note, have a great weekend, and we will see you next week.

00:50:00.000 I would say don't destroy things while I'm gone, but it's too late.

00:50:02.000 You already did, so...

00:50:03.000 You know, apparently we need a biblical, we need a prophetic circumcision of the heart, as they say. 0.60

00:50:11.000 The entire country needs one.

00:50:12.000 We need to circumcise our hearts, not just our bodies.

00:50:15.000 And we need to recognize, once again, that this is a country subject to rules, subject to responsibility, not just to libertinism.

00:50:22.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:50:22.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - May 12, 2016

Ep. 117 - Paul Ryan Gets Trump-curious

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