The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 118 - The Media Discover Trump Has A Penis

00:00:00.000 So, last week, Gizmodo reported that former Facebook employees finally admitted what we conservatives always tacitly knew.

00:00:07.000 That the company used leftist editorial procedures to tamp down all the trending conservative topics and disadvantage stories from conservative websites.

00:00:16.000 Here's Gizmodo, quote.

00:00:17.000 Several former Facebook news curators, as they were known internally, told Gizmodo they were instructed to artificially inject selected stories into the trending news module, even if they weren't popular enough to warrant inclusion, or in some cases, if they weren't trending at all.

00:00:31.000 Among the deep-sixed or suppressed topics on the list, former IRS official Lois Lerner, who was accused by Republicans of inappropriately scrutinizing conservative groups, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, popular news aggregator The Drudge Report, Chris Kyle,

00:00:45.000 and former Fox News contributor Steven Crowder.

00:00:47.000 Stories covered by conservative outlets including Breitbart, Washington Examiner, and Newsmax that were trending enough to be picked up by the algorithm, they were excluded.

00:00:55.000 Unless mainstream sites like the New York Times and the BBC and CNN also covered the same story.

00:01:00.000 So, now Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg has invited a bevy of conservatives to meet with him in Menlo Park, California to chat about all of this, even though his top-level employees have denied the accusations.

00:01:12.000 Look, conservatives have pretty good reason to attend with a list of demands.

00:01:16.000 Demands like Facebook committing to an objective algorithm for choosing trending topics, Facebook seizing discrimination against conservatives and conservative outlets, Facebook redressing its past bias against prominent Facebook conservatives like Steven Crowder, and that a dollar spent by a conservative on Facebook should be treated in exactly the exact same way as a dollar spent by a leftist on Facebook marketing.

00:01:37.000 The meeting, in other words, is worthwhile, so long as conservatives go in with a real agenda.

00:01:41.000 But naturally, pro-Trump websites like Breitbart News and The Drudge Report and Gateway Pundit, they've chosen to lie about the nature of the conservatives going to the meeting instead.

00:01:50.000 Now all those outlets have a pretty good reason to be skeptical of Facebook's motives.

00:01:54.000 All conservatives should be, and several of those outlets, at least two of them, were named there.

00:01:57.000 But the meeting isn't about Donald Trump.

00:01:59.000 Nonetheless, here are the headlines about the Facebook meeting from those pro-Trump websites.

00:02:04.000 Gateway Pundit, quote, Facebook founder Zuckerberg to meet with conservatives this week, but only anti-Trump conservatives.

00:02:10.000 Breitbart News, Glenn Beck, anti-Trump conservatives to meet with Facebook's Zuckerberg.

00:02:15.000 Drudge Report linked to Breitbart, and here was their headline, anti-Trump, quote unquote, conservatives in Facebook meetup.

00:02:21.000 It's a conspiracy!

00:02:22.000 And just like all the other anti-Trump conspiracies, the elections being stolen and the media that gave Trump $2 billion in free media wanted to stop him from winning the nomination, and it's the Jews!

00:02:32.000 Just like all of those other conservative, supposedly pro-Trump conspiracy theories, it's nonsense.

00:02:37.000 The Hill reported this morning, quote, Barry Bennett, a senior advisor to the Trump campaign, will represent Trump during the meeting on Wednesday.

00:02:45.000 By the way, those of us who had heard about the meeting knew Bennett had been invited long before The Hill reported it.

00:02:50.000 And Breitbart News was invited too!

00:02:52.000 But, this all must have been just some big anti-Trump conspiracy.

00:02:55.000 See, this is how the Trump movement works.

00:02:56.000 They take issues that are important to conservatives, and then they pervert them into litmus tests about the Orange God King.

00:03:03.000 In the process, they let the apparent bad guys, in this case Facebook, off the hook, and they split conservatives into pro-Trump and anti-Trump factions.

00:03:10.000 All for publicity, all for political gain.

00:03:12.000 And then, as a capper, those like conman Stephen K. Bannon of Breitbart News, of whom Trump says, quote, if Steve is involved, it will be good, they say they're just turning down the invite because, quote, free speech is not for sale.

00:03:23.000 And neither are we.

00:03:26.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, and this is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:03:35.000 All right, so it was a busy weekend, and there's lots of amusing Trump material to get to, and a lot of amusing stuff on the Democratic side to get to.

00:03:41.000 Everybody's focused on the Never Trump movement.

00:03:43.000 Less people seem to be focused on the Never Hillary movement among folks on the left.

00:03:47.000 Bernie Sanders' crowd is not thrilled with Hillary Clinton.

00:03:50.000 We'll get to all of that, but we start today with this late-breaking news.

00:03:53.000 Breitbart, Sunday night, wrote a piece.

00:03:55.000 They put up a piece that looked like this.

00:03:57.000 It looked like this, and in the headline,

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00:04:09.000 The headline says, Bill Kristol, Republican spoiler, renegade Jew, prepares third-party effort to block Trump's path to the White House.

00:04:17.000 This was the big headline over at Breitbart.com.

00:04:19.000 Renegade Jew!

00:04:23.000 And we renegade Jews were somewhat perturbed by this.

00:04:25.000 The piece was written by a former boss of mine, David Horowitz.

00:04:28.000 So, this is two former employers of mine getting together to do something deeply terrible and stupid.

00:04:33.000 So, let's first go through the piece that David Horowitz wrote, and then we'll get to why Breitbart does stuff like this.

00:04:38.000 And there is an incipient, a nascent anti-Semitic movement inside the Trump camp.

00:04:43.000 We've been talking about it for months here, and this is just more evidence that it's being pandered to by folks at Breitbart.

00:04:49.000 I'm kinda surprised at David because the reality is that David trying to call people out on their Judaism is a little bit weird.

00:04:56.000 So, here's the thing.

00:04:57.000 I'm Orthodox.

00:04:59.000 See this?

00:04:59.000 This means I'm Orthodox.

00:05:00.000 The funny hat on my head.

00:05:01.000 That means I'm an Orthodox Jew.

00:05:03.000 I've worn a yarmulke every single waking hour, essentially, unless I'm showering or sleeping.

00:05:07.000 Well, then I wouldn't be awake.

00:05:09.000 But every single waking hour, I've been wearing this yarmulke since I was about 11.

00:05:13.000 I was married in Israel.

00:05:14.000 My wife is Israeli-American.

00:05:16.000 She became a citizen about four years ago.

00:05:18.000 On Saturday, we held the Brit Milah Briss for my baby.

00:05:21.000 Right?

00:05:22.000 And all the Trump supporters spammed me after they found out about the birth with nasty anti-Semitic material because this is what a lot of Trump supporters do.

00:05:29.000 I've spent my career fighting boycott divestment sanctions from Israel.

00:05:32.000 I'm a leading critic of the Obama administration.

00:05:34.000 I'm the first person in America to call them anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish.

00:05:38.000 I haven't been shy about calling out Jews who I think are siding with the bad guys in the political scene.

00:05:43.000 I wrote a column, now it's been five years probably, called Jews in Name Only, about Jews who don't care about Israel and vote based on abortion and same-sex marriage.

00:05:52.000 I also don't back Donald Trump, and if you've been watching this show or listening to it, you know why I don't back Donald Trump.

00:05:57.000 But on a Jewish basis, I don't back him because I feel no compulsion as a Jew to back a man who said in open debate he makes no moral distinction between the Israelis and the Palestinians, who feigns ignorance of the Ku Klux Klan and David Duke,

00:06:08.000 Who refuses to rip up the Iran deal.

00:06:09.000 He's one of only two candidates in the Republican race who refused to say that they would rip up the Iran deal.

00:06:14.000 Who flirts with the anti-Semite, Hitler-loving people on Twitter.

00:06:19.000 Who refuses to denounce anti-Semitic death threats against journalists.

00:06:23.000 Who refuses to stand by religious freedom restoration acts that would protect Jews and Christians.

00:06:27.000 Who treats women like garbage and lies non-stop, shifts his positions all the time, and insults the disabled in POW.

00:06:33.000 Sorry, as a Jew, this doesn't seem like it's indicative that I must support that guy.

00:06:37.000 Hillary's terrible for Israel, she's terrible for the Jews.

00:06:40.000 Trump is terrible for Israel, he's also terrible for the Jews.

00:06:43.000 What's worse is that Trump is carving the heart out of the only pro-Israel party, the Republican Party.

00:06:47.000 He's carving the heart out of it and replacing it with this heart of stone of Pat Buchanan, this isolationist, anti-Israel, anti-Jewish policy.

00:06:55.000 But according to David Horowitz, you're a renegade Jew if you don't back Trump.

00:06:58.000 So the whole article is specious.

00:06:59.000 It's really not a good article at Breitbart.

00:07:02.000 But the last paragraph is the one where he talks about why he's talking about Bill Kristol being a renegade Jew for trying to start a third party.

00:07:09.000 Here's what he writes.

00:07:09.000 He says, First of all,

00:07:19.000 If David Horowitz truly believes that that's what Zionism is, he doesn't understand Zionism, so right off the bat he's disqualified himself, okay?

00:07:25.000 Zionism was never about the idea that once there was a Jewish state, everybody would leave the Jews alone.

00:07:29.000 Zionism was about the idea that no one would ever leave Jews alone, including when there was a Jewish state, so you need a Jewish state so people have a place to go when they don't leave Jews alone.

00:07:38.000 Right, that's what it was about.

00:07:39.000 It was founded by Theodor Herzl on that basis after the trial of Dreyfus in France.

00:07:44.000 Zionism is about the idea that Jews will be persecuted everywhere, so they need a homeland somewhere.

00:07:48.000 That's what Zionism is about.

00:07:49.000 So he's wrong on that right off the bat.

00:07:51.000 It's Horowitz continues, he says, Half of world Jewry now lives in Israel.

00:07:54.000 The enemies whom Obama and Hillary have empowered, Iran, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, ISIS, and Hamas, have openly sworn to exterminate the Jews.

00:08:00.000 Okay, I'm with you.

00:08:01.000 I'm also an American, and an American first, whose country is threatened with destruction by the same enemies.

00:08:07.000 So, I agree with all of that.

00:08:07.000 I just think that the people who are carving the heart out of the Republican Party

00:08:24.000 For Donald Trump's benefit, those are the people who are weakening the only party that stands between us and the brink.

00:08:29.000 Beyond this, and I don't want to get personal with David, but when he calls people renegade Jews, it's sort of necessary.

00:08:34.000 David's an avowed agnostic, right?

00:08:35.000 I mean, David doesn't believe in God.

00:08:37.000 David doesn't believe in the Torah.

00:08:38.000 David doesn't believe in the Pentateuch.

00:08:39.000 None of that makes him a bad person.

00:08:41.000 But it certainly makes it weird that he's standing on the Moses Mountain holding the tablets.

00:08:46.000 I'm sorry, you don't get to do that, really.

00:08:49.000 And it doesn't make you a renegade Jew to not back Trump.

00:08:52.000 It actually sort of makes you a renegade Jew to reject every fundamental basis of Judaism and then say, well, as a Jew, X.

00:09:01.000 You can say, as a Westerner, I don't like, I think that Trump would be better for Israel than anybody else, but the whole as a Jew thing, when you don't believe in Judaism, it's a little bit awkward.

00:09:09.000 Okay, so that's David's article.

00:09:11.000 Then there's Breitbart.

00:09:12.000 So these are two different things.

00:09:13.000 David writes a piece, and David sort of assumes, because I think David is not internet sophisticated, he assumes that Breitbart is what Breitbart was.

00:09:20.000 Breitbart is not what it was.

00:09:21.000 Breitbart is now an alt-right white supremacist pandering site, and that makes me super sad to say because I was involved deeply in Breitbart's rise.

00:09:29.000 I still have love for Andrew Breitbart and his family, of course.

00:09:31.000 There's still people who are working there who I once considered friends, all the less of them now, and Breitbart has become a site that specifically panders

00:09:42.000 to the sorts of people who see a headline like Renegade Jews and immediately start tweeting Nazi memes.

00:09:47.000 That's what Breitbart does now.

00:09:49.000 They openly pander to the alt-right.

00:09:51.000 Milo Yiannopoulos, one of their writers, he's a guy who has openly embraced the alt-right.

00:09:55.000 This is what he wrote, by the way.

00:09:56.000 He said,

00:10:07.000 Yes, that's very encouraging.

00:10:08.000 There's skinheads who are smart.

00:10:09.000 Now I feel more comfortable.

00:10:11.000 This all began in sort of the comment section of Breitbart while I was there.

00:10:15.000 And while I was there and I was writing anti-Trump stuff, every comment was about what a cuck I was and all this nonsense and that plus the anti-Semitic stuff.

00:10:23.000 Now it's filtered up.

00:10:24.000 It's filtered all the way up to the top of the editorial echelon.

00:10:27.000 It's gotten so bad that even Jack Hunter, who's a paleo-conservative, a former Pat Buchanan, Rand Paul guy, right?

00:10:32.000 He's written how the alt-right supported by Breitbart, quote, turns you into a racist a-hole.

00:10:37.000 And he wrote that on Breitbart.

00:10:38.000 What Breitbart does, they play this game.

00:10:39.000 The same game that Trump plays.

00:10:40.000 And it's a game that you should spot.

00:10:42.000 It's an important game.

00:10:43.000 The game is this.

00:10:44.000 They run these editorials that are against the alt-right so they can say they gave both sides a hearing.

00:10:49.000 Trump does this too.

00:10:50.000 Trump sort of panders to the alt-right.

00:10:51.000 He panders to the anti-Semites, and to the racists, and to the KKK.

00:10:55.000 And then he says, okay, well, they're not my people.

00:10:58.000 I mean, I don't have anything to do with them, really.

00:11:00.000 But I don't want to be intolerant.

00:11:01.000 I want to be a bigot and just shut down the debate.

00:11:04.000 They're more than happy, Breitbart is, to take their clicks from the alt-right, because the alt-right knows what they're doing.

00:11:08.000 And Trump is happy to take their support, because the white supremacists know what Trump is doing.

00:11:12.000 And that's how you end up with Renegade Jew running in giant letters across a site that panders to the alt-right, people who like making Nazi memes.

00:11:20.000 This is what they do.

00:11:22.000 And, you know, I'm sorry, but David Horwitz throwing out the term renegade Jew to oppose Trump, to describe people who oppose Trump on pro-Israel and conservative grounds is bad.

00:11:32.000 Breitbart using that sort of language to drive the septic system segment of its base is, I think, significantly worse.

00:11:38.000 I want to start with that today because I think that this is going to become a larger and larger issue.

00:11:42.000 And it's really, this whole

00:11:45.000 Cycle is just heartbreaking for people like me who have spent 15 years, you know, half my lifetime in this movement.

00:11:50.000 People who made friends all across the conservative spectrum.

00:11:54.000 To watch as people who I considered friends pander to some of the worst people on earth is really quite terrible.

00:11:59.000 Okay, so meanwhile, speaking of Donald Trump...

00:12:02.000 Donald Trump.

00:12:03.000 There's an article in the New York Times today about Trump and talking about Trump's history with women.

00:12:08.000 And we were having a discussion before the show with Andrew Klavan and Jeremy Boring, who's the managing editor at Daily Wire.

00:12:14.000 We were talking about this New York Times article.

00:12:16.000 And it's an interesting article for a couple of reasons.

00:12:19.000 So first of all, what they say is that Donald Trump has a history with women.

00:12:22.000 But then they don't talk about, like, the really bad stuff he's done.

00:12:25.000 They talk about basically how he was a womanizer and acted like kind of a sexist.

00:12:29.000 Like, for example,

00:12:30.000 Apparently they opened with this story of this woman who was a who I guess was in one of his I guess she was in one of his

00:12:39.000 Swimsuit routines, and so her name is Brewer Lane, Rosie Brewer Lane, I think?

00:12:45.000 Rowan Brewer Lane.

00:12:46.000 Rowan.

00:12:46.000 Okay, Rowan Brewer Lane.

00:12:48.000 And apparently he was having a pool party at Mar-a-Lago, and there were 50 models and 30 men.

00:12:52.000 So he apparently took one of them, Rowan Brewer Lane, in the back room, and he started showing her around the mansion.

00:12:59.000 He asked if she had a swimsuit.

00:13:00.000 She said no.

00:13:01.000 He took her into a room, he opened drawers, and then asked her to put on a swimsuit.

00:13:05.000 She's a 26-year-old model.

00:13:06.000 She did as Trump asked.

00:13:07.000 She said, I went into the bathroom and tried one on.

00:13:08.000 It was a bikini.

00:13:10.000 I came out and he said, wow.

00:13:11.000 And then he decided to show her off.

00:13:13.000 He brought me out to the pool and said, that is a stunning Trump girl, isn't it?

00:13:16.000 Ms.

00:13:16.000 Brulein said.

00:13:18.000 And then the New York Times says, Donald Trump and women.

00:13:20.000 The words evoke a familiar cascade of casual insults hurled from the safe distance of a Twitter account, a radio show, or a campaign podium.

00:13:27.000 Okay, a couple of things.

00:13:29.000 There are real things that Donald Trump says that are bad about women.

00:13:32.000 This one does not rise to the level of truly terrible.

00:13:35.000 First of all, she consented to putting on the bikini.

00:13:37.000 And if she didn't want him to treat her like a piece of meat, she could have said, no.

00:13:41.000 Also, she was hired to be a model at a pool party.

00:13:44.000 So, I mean, I assume that some of this goes along with the gig.

00:13:47.000 If you're hired to be a model at the Playboy Mansion and somebody says you're a Hugh Hefner girl, you kind of go, ah!

00:13:52.000 And if you're hired to go to a Trump party, then you're a Trump girl.

00:13:55.000 But the whole article is about stuff like this, and I just, I don't buy it.

00:14:00.000 Now, I will say that there is a tendency for people to go too far in all of this.

00:14:04.000 There's a tendency for people to say that stuff that actually is gross that he does, is not actually gross because he's just being a man.

00:14:10.000 So for example, the article buries, like this one to me is much worse.

00:14:13.000 And Lindsey, you tell, Lindsey's our official woman of the Ben Shapiro show.

00:14:17.000 So Lindsey, you tell me if this one's worse.

00:14:19.000 Temple Taggart,

00:14:20.000 The 21-year-old Miss Utah was startled by how forward he was with young contestants like her in 1997.

00:14:25.000 As she recalls it, he introduced himself in an unusually intimate manner.

00:14:29.000 He kissed me directly on the lips.

00:14:31.000 I thought, oh my god, gross.

00:14:33.000 He was married to Marla Maples at the time.

00:14:35.000 I think there were a few other girls that he kissed on the mouth.

00:14:37.000 I was like, wow, that's inappropriate.

00:14:39.000 So that one seems to me a lot worse.

00:14:40.000 That's an actual unwanted physical touching.

00:14:42.000 That seems to me a lot worse than, come, I'm going to give you a tour of the mansion.

00:14:46.000 Here's a bikini.

00:14:47.000 Put it on.

00:14:47.000 She puts it on.

00:14:48.000 Oh, you look good in a bikini.

00:14:51.000 Correct.

00:14:51.000 She's a model, therefore, that here, she's a model, but she's not there to be made out with by the guy who's running the thing, right?

00:14:57.000 So this is, and apparently he then told her that she should go to modeling agencies and lie about her age.

00:15:02.000 She should say that she was 17 because that would make it easier for her to get modeling gigs.

00:15:07.000 And so there's some stories about how he was not particularly nice with women.

00:15:12.000 And, you know, there's stories here about a preoccupation with bodies.

00:15:15.000 This is one of the subheadings, a preoccupation with bodies.

00:15:18.000 He possessed an almost compulsive need to talk about the bodies of women he worked with.

00:15:22.000 There was one woman he was working with, and he apparently said to her at one point, you like your candy, because she was overweight.

00:15:30.000 And apparently he only wanted to feature his most beautiful employees in all the pictures and this sort of stuff.

00:15:36.000 Okay, so this is not like wonderful stuff.

00:15:38.000 It's not delightful stuff, but the idea that this is the worst stuff that ever happened,

00:15:43.000 There's an actual credible accusation that Donald Trump actually raped his first wife, right?

00:15:47.000 I mean, that was actually made in a court filing.

00:15:50.000 She later backed off of it, but that's more credible and more damaging than any of this stuff.

00:15:55.000 But the media are so interested in getting Trump, they're willing to try.

00:15:57.000 I mean, if this is what they've got, this is weak tea.

00:15:59.000 If this is the best they can do, this is weak tea.

00:16:01.000 I mean, they talk about how Donald Trump talks about sex all the time at his office in Trump Tower.

00:16:06.000 Trump seemed eager for his colleagues to hear about his new companion, Ms.

00:16:09.000 Maples.

00:16:10.000 When the New York Post feasted on her supposed satisfaction with him in bed, captured in the headline, best sex I've ever had, Mr. Trump was unabashed.

00:16:17.000 He absolutely loved that.

00:16:18.000 He waved it around the office.

00:16:19.000 Did you see this?

00:16:20.000 Everyone who worked there was kind of horrified.

00:16:21.000 We all thought it made him look bad.

00:16:23.000 He didn't.

00:16:24.000 Why would that make him look bad?

00:16:26.000 She's a model and she was saying it's the best sex she ever had.

00:16:28.000 I'm not sure that there, I can't count on one hand the number of men who wouldn't be proud of that headline.

00:16:34.000 That's just silliness.

00:16:35.000 So, here's the thing.

00:16:36.000 They're so interested... This is so stupid.

00:16:39.000 They're saying, for example, that he calls women hun and deer.

00:16:43.000 Really?

00:16:44.000 Really?

00:16:45.000 Like, that's really where it is?

00:16:47.000 That's where it is?

00:16:49.000 So, they buried the rape accusation two-thirds of the way down in the article.

00:16:51.000 Okay.

00:16:52.000 So, here's the thing.

00:16:53.000 All of this is gonna backfire, because most people look at this, men and women, and they go,

00:16:58.000 Am I supposed to be surprised?

00:17:00.000 Like, this has been Trump's image forever.

00:17:01.000 He was posing on the cover of Playboy years and years and years ago.

00:17:04.000 This is a guy who was on the Howard Stern show all the time.

00:17:06.000 Are we supposed to look at him calling women hun and deer?

00:17:10.000 He's done worse stuff than this in this campaign.

00:17:12.000 I mean, he called a reporter, he said she was bleeding out of her wherever.

00:17:16.000 And he tweeted out a picture of his opponent's wife saying that she was ugly.

00:17:20.000 Like, am I supposed to be shocked by any of this?

00:17:22.000 But this is what the media do, and then it backfires on them.

00:17:25.000 So apparently that Roanne lady, she apparently, she was on, first of all, Trump women do not age well.

00:17:31.000 I'm just gonna say that.

00:17:31.000 This is, for those who can't see, I'll go full Trump here.

00:17:36.000 She's not aged particularly well, but she's on America's election headquarters on Fox News.

00:17:41.000 She's the after photo in the Trump Wives collection.

00:17:44.000 What was your reaction when you read this article yesterday?

00:17:47.000 Actually, it was very upsetting.

00:17:48.000 Why?

00:17:48.000 I was not happy to read it at all.

00:18:05.000 Well, because the New York Times told us several times that they would make sure that my story that I was telling came across.

00:18:16.000 They promised several times that they would do it accurately.

00:18:19.000 They told me several times, and my manager several times, that it would not be a hit piece, and that my story would come across the way that I was telling it, and honestly, and it absolutely was not.

00:18:32.000 What did they get wrong?

00:18:34.000 Well, they did take quotes from what I said, and they put a negative connotation on it.

00:18:40.000 They spun it to where it appeared negative.

00:18:43.000 I did not have a negative experience with Donald Trump, and I don't appreciate them making it look like that I was saying that it was a negative experience.

00:18:52.000 You knew him very well, right?

00:18:53.000 You dated him for several months?

00:18:55.000 That's correct.

00:18:56.000 Yes.

00:18:57.000 And he never made me feel like I was being demeaned in any way.

00:19:03.000 He never offended me in any way.

00:19:04.000 He was very gracious.

00:19:07.000 I saw him around all types of people, all types of women.

00:19:12.000 He was very kind, thoughtful, generous.

00:19:16.000 He was a gentleman.

00:19:18.000 Okay, so he was a gentleman, everything was great, and the media's out to get him.

00:19:22.000 Okay, so all this feeds into the perception that Trump is a victim.

00:19:24.000 He's a victim of the media, and all of this backfires on the media who are trying to get him.

00:19:30.000 And all of it ends up benefiting him in the end.

00:19:32.000 Even stories that are clearly just ridiculous, all of this ends up benefiting him because people look at this and they go, really?

00:19:37.000 This is the best you've got on this guy?

00:19:39.000 So here's another example.

00:19:41.000 So apparently,

00:19:42.000 Twenty years ago, Donald Trump was asked about his sex life, basically, by the New York Post.

00:19:49.000 And the New York Post called him up.

00:19:50.000 I'm sorry, it was People Magazine.

00:19:52.000 There was a reporter named Sue Carswell.

00:19:54.000 It was 1991.

00:19:55.000 And she called the Trump office seeking an interview with Donald Trump.

00:19:58.000 She'd been assigned to cover the soap opera surrounding the end of his marriage to Ivana, his budding relationship with Marla Maples, and his rumored affairs with a bunch of celebrities who appeared on the gossip pages.

00:20:08.000 So, Carswell got a return call.

00:20:10.000 And Harry, what's your name again?

00:20:11.000 John Miller.

00:20:12.000 And you work with them?

00:20:13.000 Yes, that's correct.

00:20:13.000 John Miller.

00:20:14.000 Can you sort of, uh... I guess we're gonna try and put a story together if we have a dead item today, because our magazine closed.

00:20:19.000 Well, basically yesterday, but we're hurrying.

00:21:33.000 Okay, so we can stop it there.

00:21:35.000 It goes on for 15 minutes like this.

00:21:37.000 Yes, that's Donald Trump.

00:21:39.000 Okay, that's the voice of Donald Trump.

00:21:40.000 CNN actually... So Trump does what Trump does, which is he just lies habitually.

00:21:44.000 They ask him about this on air and they say, is that you?

00:21:46.000 And he goes, no, no, it's not me.

00:21:48.000 He admitted openly in 1991 that was him.

00:21:52.000 But now he's saying it wasn't him.

00:21:53.000 And so you've got Katrina Pearson on TV saying it wasn't him.

00:21:56.000 It definitely wasn't him.

00:21:58.000 Everybody just drops words like frankly, and totally, and the very best, and tremendous.

00:22:04.000 Everybody just drops these words in normal conversation.

00:22:07.000 This is a thing that they do, apparently, according to the Trump camp.

00:22:09.000 So the media made a big deal out of this.

00:22:11.000 And it is.

00:22:11.000 It's a ridiculous, stupid, unbelievable story.

00:22:14.000 And it demonstrates just how egotistical and narcissistic he is.

00:22:17.000 As I tweeted over the weekend,

00:22:19.000 The reason that Hillary is not able to outdo him and he's not able to outdo her is because who takes the high ground in a battle between lying, egotistical, narcissistic, pains in the ass?

00:22:27.000 Like, who exactly gets to take the moral high ground there?

00:22:30.000 The media went nuts over this over the weekend.

00:22:32.000 Most people look at this and they laugh.

00:22:33.000 Like, yeah, it's crazy, and yeah, it's ridiculous, but it's also just kind of crazy and ridiculous.

00:22:39.000 Who cares?

00:22:40.000 Who cares?

00:22:42.000 And so what you're seeing here is the media's attempts to get Trump.

00:22:46.000 I know Clavin talked about it a little bit today.

00:22:48.000 Media's attempts to get Trump are actually backfiring on the media now because they're so desperate to get him.

00:22:52.000 They don't know.

00:22:53.000 They're like a small child.

00:22:57.000 Babies have a reflex.

00:22:59.000 I'm now in baby mode because I've been Putin Pete on about a thousand times between the last podcast and this one.

00:23:05.000 Babies have a reflex, which is that if you, and doctors test them on this, if you hold them up by their hands and then you drop them, they go, and they kind of spaz out.

00:23:16.000 Well, that's sort of what the media is doing with Trump.

00:23:17.000 They're now lashing out in every possible direction to get this guy.

00:23:21.000 And that includes not going after the lowest hanging fruit, like he's a corrupt charlatan, like he's a liar, like he's not a conservative, like he's a bad guy.

00:23:29.000 Instead of that, they go to, well, you know, his bikini models were not happy with how he treated them.

00:23:35.000 And he masqueraded as his own PR man in 1991.

00:23:38.000 Yeah, Bill Clinton was raping people in 1991.

00:23:40.000 Like, who cares?

00:23:42.000 It's so silly.

00:23:43.000 And this is why Trump is benefiting.

00:23:45.000 Paul Manafort, who is Trump's Putin agent slash campaign director, Paul Manafort says that Trump has... Hillary has a bigger problem with men than Trump does with women.

00:23:55.000 He says that to Jake Tapper.

00:23:57.000 Well, you know, this is one of these conventional wisdom facts that are not correct.

00:24:01.000 Yes, there's some high negatives on the part of Trump right now, who's just come out of a very spirited contest.

00:24:07.000 Hillary Clinton's got high negatives, too.

00:24:09.000 And when you look at the recent Quinnipiac polls that came out last week, which show Trump winning in Florida, and even or slightly ahead in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

00:24:20.000 You look at the gender gaps, and the real gender gap is a male gender gap on the part of Clinton, where she's got a bigger disparity between her support with men than Trump has with women.

00:24:30.000 So it's an issue.

00:24:31.000 It'll be dealt with.

00:24:32.000 We're coming through a healing process.

00:24:34.000 This is when we're unifying our party.

00:24:36.000 The national polls have all shown closure, where Trump now is either one or two points behind or one or two points ahead.

00:24:42.000 So this is way early and still already we're seeing convergence on the part of the electorate with Donald Trump.

00:24:49.000 And the meetings at the Hill with the leadership were very positive.

00:24:52.000 Okay, so he's saying that we're all coming together, everything is moving in the right direction, Donald Trump is going to become more conciliatory, Hillary has a problem with men.

00:25:00.000 Okay, it is true by the way.

00:25:02.000 That Hillary has a problem with men, and I point this out, I wrote a little pamphlet about how to win the 2016 election, and I actually sort of back the Trump strategy of you have to win a few more white voters, and you have to win more men, because it's going to be tough for you to close that gender gap with women, except on the safety issue.

00:25:18.000 Hillary Clinton alienates men, this is true both personally and politically, Hillary Clinton is not somebody who's going to draw a lot of men, so all of this is true.

00:25:27.000 Now, none of this makes up for the fact that Donald Trump is, in fact, not a conservative, so it's hard to watch this election unless you watch it as a comedy, right?

00:25:36.000 I mean, basically, Walter Kerr, he was a columnist on theater, and what Walter Kerr said is that comedy is the notion, the difference between comedy and tragedy is that tragedy is

00:25:46.000 Man reaches for the star, but he's bound by his mortal being.

00:25:51.000 In the end, we all die, right?

00:25:52.000 That's tragedy, is that we do our best and we try to create, but in the end, we all end up in the ground.

00:25:57.000 Comedy is the idea that we try to do our best, we try to reach for the stars, but we all fart, right?

00:26:02.000 That's sort of the idea.

00:26:03.000 So this is the...

00:26:05.000 You can see this election as comedy or you can see it as tragedy.

00:26:08.000 I've been varying between the two.

00:26:09.000 I'm gonna try the rest of the way to see it more as comedy because otherwise it's just too depressing.

00:26:13.000 You know, we try to reach for the political stars and we end up with the political cancer of Trump and Clinton.

00:26:19.000 Or it's a political fart.

00:26:21.000 Or it's a political fart.

00:26:22.000 I mean, the only good news about comedy is that at some point the fart ends.

00:26:25.000 So that's one of the reasons why I would prefer for this election cycle to move quite quickly.

00:26:30.000 And it's hard not to laugh when it's Donald Trump masquerading as his own PR guy.

00:26:36.000 Now, the idea that the party is coming around Trump, it's one of the more disturbing things that I've seen because what I was always afraid of, what I was always afraid of, is that, you remember the old Mary Poppins, a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down?

00:26:50.000 I was always afraid that a spoonful of Trump makes the absolute

00:26:54.000 Horrible crap that he believes go down among conservatives.

00:26:57.000 And so, a lot of the terrible things that Donald Trump believes in and said, those things will get pushed off to the side.

00:27:02.000 You'll see people that you respect start pretending that conservatism is okay with a lot of the things that Donald Trump does, simply because they don't like Hillary and they just want- they'd prefer to have Trump to Hillary.

00:27:12.000 You'll see them soft-pedaling how bad Trump is in order to help Hillary.

00:27:15.000 Look, I don't soft-pedal Hillary.

00:27:16.000 I think Hillary's a disaster area.

00:27:18.000 I think Hillary is a moral demon.

00:27:20.000 I think that she's awful in every way it's possible to be awful.

00:27:23.000 I also think Trump is awful in pretty much every way it's possible to be awful.

00:27:27.000 And he has a significantly more authoritarian streak than Hillary does besides.

00:27:31.000 She's an authoritarian, but she's not stupid enough to believe that she can actually get away with it.

00:27:36.000 He's dumb enough to believe that he can get away with it.

00:27:38.000 All of which is to say,

00:27:40.000 Changing the definition of conservatism to fit Donald Trump is really a problem.

00:27:44.000 It's one of the reasons I think there has to be a conservative movement outside of Trump.

00:27:49.000 You're about to see all these conservatives starting to swallow stuff they never would have swallowed just in order to help Trump, and that's the part that's disturbing.

00:27:55.000 So, on the left, the part that's funny is that the media is trying to get him with all of this nonsensical stuff.

00:27:59.000 On the right, the part that's disturbing is the right is trying to write off all of the flaws in Donald Trump because they're trying to make him win.

00:28:06.000 So, Reince Priebus says, number one, that he's the head of the RNC, who's now number one Trump lackey.

00:28:13.000 He says that Paul Ryan will indeed, the Speaker of the House, will indeed endorse Donald Trump.

00:28:18.000 Chairman Priebus, how confident are you that Speaker Ryan, in the end, will endorse Donald Trump?

00:28:24.000 And, you know, he keeps talking about a process.

00:28:26.000 How long is this process going to take?

00:28:30.000 Well, listen, I don't speak for Paul Ryan, but what I can tell you is that I think both of these guys came into the meeting expecting a good meeting, but I think they left and it was a great meeting.

00:28:42.000 I think they made a lot of progress and I would be, you know, I'd be surprised if we didn't get there.

00:28:48.000 You know, not too much longer in the distant future.

00:28:52.000 So I think it was a good meeting, and I take Paul at his word.

00:28:54.000 He wouldn't go do a press conference and say the things that he said just to say them.

00:29:00.000 He believes it, and he's sincere, but he wants to make sure it's real.

00:29:04.000 He doesn't want to just put on a show.

00:29:05.000 He wants to understand and make sure there's a real understanding of each other before he makes that endorsement.

00:29:12.000 So he says that they're all gonna get together, and that's going to involve writing off all of the foibles of Donald Trump.

00:29:17.000 So here is Priebus saying that all this stuff about Trump's personal life, and there's a lot there that's a lot more disturbing than him ogling women in bikinis, right?

00:29:25.000 I mean, as I mentioned, there's the rape allegation, there's him flying to Sex Slave Island with Jeffrey Epstein, there's him, what he said about his daughters in the past, he's, you know, he's kind of a yucky guy.

00:29:35.000 But Reince Priebus says we should ignore all of that, nobody's gonna care about any of that.

00:29:39.000 What I would say is that we've been working on this primary for over a year, Chris, and I've got to tell you, I think that all these stories that come out, and they come out every couple weeks, people just don't care.

00:29:53.000 I think people look at Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton and say, who's going to bring an earthquake

00:29:59.000 I think?

00:30:15.000 Uh, and his personal life is something that people are looking at and saying, well, I'm surprised that he's had girlfriends in the past.

00:30:23.000 That's not what people look at Donald Trump for.

00:30:25.000 So I think the traditional playbook and analysis really don't apply.

00:30:29.000 But forgive me, it's not whether or not he had.

00:30:32.000 Girlfriends?

00:30:33.000 The question is whether or not he mistreated women, whether he made unwanted advances, whether he humiliated women in the workplace.

00:30:42.000 I don't understand why you say that people don't care about that, and are you going to look into the allegations?

00:30:49.000 Well, look, I'm not saying people don't care about it.

00:30:52.000 I'm just saying I think the reason he's where he's at is that he represents something much different than the traditional analysis of individual candidates.

00:31:01.000 And yes, everything bothers me, Chris, but I don't know the truth of these things.

00:31:06.000 I don't know.

00:31:06.000 So they're reading.

00:31:07.000 Everything bothers me.

00:31:08.000 But everything bothers me.

00:31:10.000 But how about I don't know the answer to that.

00:31:12.000 I'm sure that the Trump campaign will deal with that.

00:31:14.000 All right, how about that?

00:31:15.000 But this whole like, oh, we're going to write it off because he's our boy.

00:31:18.000 I'm not real fond of that as a general rule.

00:31:20.000 We're seeing a lot of that happening right now.

00:31:22.000 One of the things that one of the myths that I think is really quite amazing that's that's that's out there is that the anti-Trump people that the never Trump folks.

00:31:31.000 The reason we're doing this is for the money.

00:31:32.000 The reason we're doing this is because we've been paid off.

00:31:34.000 Okay, let's look at this for real.

00:31:36.000 Okay, the reason that the Trump people are doing this is because they have been paid off.

00:31:39.000 Okay, the reason that a lot of these Trump people are doing this is because they've been paid off.

00:31:42.000 Let's take, for example, Ben Carson.

00:31:44.000 So Ben Carson, as you recall, was called a pedophile by Donald Trump on the campaign trail.

00:31:48.000 And Ben Carson has openly stated that Donald Trump was going to give him a slot in his administration, probably as Secretary of Health and Human Services if Donald Trump becomes president.

00:31:56.000 And yet here you have Ben Carson lecturing people like me on a moral level.

00:32:01.000 Why can't you back Trump?

00:32:02.000 It's immoral not to back Trump.

00:32:04.000 It just shows how corrupt you are not to back Trump.

00:32:06.000 Here he is.

00:32:06.000 The Never Trump people have said from the beginning Donald Trump is not conservative.

00:32:10.000 He's not a traditional conservative.

00:32:11.000 There's probably some truth in that.

00:32:12.000 Now they're telling us that Mitt Romney and Mark Cuban might make good third-party candidates to run against Trump.

00:32:19.000 Are they more conservative than Donald Trump?

00:32:21.000 Is Mark Cuban more conservative than Donald Trump?

00:32:24.000 I'm getting confused.

00:32:27.000 Well, you know, there's a level of arrogance there that is almost incomprehensible.

00:32:32.000 We have a system in place that allows the will of the people to be expressed.

00:32:37.000 Now these people come along and say that people don't know what they're talking about.

00:32:40.000 Get them out of here.

00:32:42.000 We're the ones who know who the nominee should be.

00:32:45.000 And I hope people are taking note of that and who these people are.

00:32:49.000 Well, Mark Cuban has said that he doesn't want to do it.

00:32:51.000 In fact, it seems like the Never Trump people are having a hard time finding somebody who does want it.

00:32:56.000 I want to get your thoughts.

00:32:57.000 I mean, is it too late in the first place?

00:33:00.000 And would it ensure that Hillary Clinton gets the White House?

00:33:03.000 Well, of course it would fracture the party.

00:33:06.000 And, you know, that's the goal of some of the people who would actually prefer to have Hillary in place because she's a known quantity.

00:33:14.000 She's one of them.

00:33:16.000 I think a lot of the people have recognized that there's a political class.

00:33:20.000 It consists of both Democrats and Republicans and Independents who believe that they are in control and they should maintain control and they have a right to be in control.

00:33:30.000 Okay, so Donald Trump is part of that political class, but I love Ben Carson, right?

00:33:33.000 A guy who was basically bribed to join the Trump administration, now going out there

00:33:38.000 The arrogance of these people even thinking that they can go out there and stump against Trump.

00:33:44.000 It's almost incomprehensible.

00:33:46.000 Almost as arrogant as running for president on the basis of no political knowledge or experience.

00:33:52.000 And then continuing to run for weeks after my campaign ended.

00:33:56.000 It didn't end.

00:33:58.000 I just wanted a nap in Florida in the middle of a campaign.

00:34:03.000 Amazing.

00:34:04.000 So speaking of people who have been paid off, Pat Buchanan hasn't been paid off.

00:34:07.000 But Pat Buchanan is seeing, for the first time, his philosophy now ascendant in the Republican Party.

00:34:13.000 Pat Buchanan was discredited years and years and years ago as a kook, as an anti-Semite.

00:34:18.000 And Pat Buchanan is really a nasty figure.

00:34:22.000 But he's back.

00:34:22.000 He's back.

00:34:23.000 And he's back thanks to the Trumpkins.

00:34:25.000 And here's Pat Buchanan saying that Paul Ryan is spoiling things.

00:34:27.000 They're spoiling things for everybody.

00:34:29.000 It's so terrible.

00:34:30.000 When Reagan did Grenada, they all came home and the economy took off, and they all went along with it.

00:34:37.000 Let me tell you what Ryan is risking doing.

00:34:39.000 Playing the Nelson Rockefeller spoiler role, showing up at the convention, you've got to condemn extremism, we can't have this in the party.

00:34:47.000 He wind up a dead dog along with George Romney's father.

00:34:51.000 Nixon went all out for a guy he disagreed with, Goldwater, in 1964, and wound up with two nominations for president and the new majority.

00:35:00.000 What a charming bunch those are.

00:35:02.000 20 years ago that was a fresher look, but not a great look for Pat Buchanan.

00:35:18.000 Who's that?

00:35:19.000 Eleanor Clift, I think, maybe?

00:35:20.000 But in any case, there's Pat Buchanan laughing it up because Paul Ryan and company, they have to just stop being Nelson Rockefeller.

00:35:27.000 First of all, Trump is not Goldwater, okay?

00:35:29.000 If you're gonna compare Nelson Rockefeller to Ryan, you have to make Trump Goldwater.

00:35:32.000 Goldwater was a small government guy, like a small government guy.

00:35:36.000 So small that he opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 on the grounds that it forced private businesses to desegregate, right?

00:35:42.000 That it forced private businesses not to engage in discrimination, right?

00:35:46.000 That's how small government

00:35:47.000 And I don't see any way that you're either for Hillary Clinton or you're for Donald Trump.

00:35:50.000 If you're not for Donald Trump, you're functionally helping Hillary Clinton.

00:36:10.000 I think it's just that straightforward.

00:36:13.000 Okay, and if I don't vote for Hillary, am I functionally helping Donald Trump?

00:36:17.000 Like, how does this work exactly?

00:36:18.000 If you give me a choice between a Coke and a Pepsi, and I say I would prefer the water, is that helping Coke or is that helping Pepsi?

00:36:26.000 Explain.

00:36:27.000 But there's a real reason that Gingrich is doing this.

00:36:29.000 He says he wants to be Trump's VP, obviously.

00:36:33.000 And here he is saying that, he says, yes, I would be his running mate.

00:36:35.000 There's been a lot of speculation, don't give me that look, about you running.

00:36:40.000 I thought you were above this.

00:36:41.000 No, I'm not above it.

00:36:43.000 This is what I do for a living.

00:36:45.000 And I know you didn't think I was above it.

00:36:48.000 There's a lot of speculation that he is going to ask you to be his running mate.

00:36:51.000 Now, if he asks you, you're certainly going to say yes.

00:36:54.000 Well, if he asks me, I'm certainly going to say I want to sit down and talk about it.

00:36:57.000 I don't think it's an automatic yes.

00:36:58.000 I think you have to think through what does he think the job involves.

00:37:03.000 And if he indicates, as I'm sure he would, you're going to play a big role.

00:37:06.000 If he can convince Callista and me that it's doable and that it's serious and that we would, in fact, contribute, I think we'd be very hard-pressed not to say yes.

00:37:14.000 Of course you'd say yes.

00:37:15.000 That's the whole reason you're doing any of this.

00:37:17.000 You used to be a conservative and now you're following a nationalist populist down this line.

00:37:21.000 Because you were discredited a couple of years ago, you were somebody who was irrelevant a couple of years ago, and now you're back in power.

00:37:26.000 And that's what's happening.

00:37:27.000 A lot of people, you're noticing a coalition of the dispossessed, right?

00:37:31.000 And it's not the conservative dispossessed.

00:37:33.000 It's a bunch of people who feel like they were marginalized and now they're coming back.

00:37:36.000 The Pat Buchanan's and the Newt Gingrich's.

00:37:39.000 You're seeing a lot of people who are coming back who were sort of from the political graveyard.

00:37:42.000 It's Night of the Walking Dead in Republican land.

00:37:44.000 And a lot of these people are coming back because Trump is revitalizing them and now he's going to trot around the inert body of Newt Gingrich in order to try and gin up conservative support.

00:37:54.000 So again, all of this is mildly troubling.

00:37:57.000 But we can laugh at it because, I mean, this is just how corrupt politics always is.

00:38:01.000 And the part that's actually kind of funny about this is that the Trump campaign claims they're not corrupt.

00:38:06.000 They claim they're the most honest campaign ever, and they're trotting out campaign surrogates to whom they've already made all sorts of promises.

00:38:11.000 The Chris Christies and the Ben Carsons.

00:38:14.000 I mean, Trump says he's the king of debt.

00:38:15.000 He's also the king of payoffs.

00:38:17.000 So the idea that it's people who oppose him who are being paid off is really quite ridiculous and absurd.

00:38:22.000 They're doing it for the payoff.

00:38:25.000 It's amazing.

00:38:26.000 Meanwhile, on the Democratic side of the aisle, utter chaos is breaking loose.

00:38:28.000 So the only thing that can make Donald Trump a palatable candidate is the fact that Hillary Clinton is so wildly unpalatable.

00:38:34.000 So I'm looking at the latest polls.

00:38:36.000 And here's what the latest polls show.

00:38:37.000 Rasmussen, which is always biased toward Republicans a little bit, has Trump up 2 on Clinton.

00:38:42.000 That was 41-39.

00:38:42.000 That was in late April.

00:38:44.000 And then there was the CNN-ORC poll that had Clinton up 13.

00:38:47.000 There's the PPP poll, that's the public policy.

00:38:51.000 It's a Democratic poll.

00:38:53.000 They show Clinton up 6.

00:38:53.000 And then there was a Gravis poll over the weekend that shows Clinton up 2, 48-46.

00:38:58.000 It's going to get closer before it starts to separate again.

00:39:02.000 The reason it's so close again is not because Trump is such

00:39:06.000 Uh, an earth-shattering candidate, although he does bring the heat as far as the media.

00:39:10.000 It's also because Hillary just exudes, eh.

00:39:15.000 There's not even a word for it.

00:39:16.000 She just exudes, eh.

00:39:17.000 And so, look at what happened over at the Nevada Convention.

00:39:20.000 At the Nevada Democratic Convention, the Democratic National Convention was breaking down because Nevada Democrats who did not back Hillary Clinton feel dispossessed and disenfranchised, and they are ticked off.

00:39:30.000 Here's what it looked like.

00:39:51.000 An utter chaos breaks loose.

00:39:53.000 The sheriff's department is coming into the building and trying to force us to leave.

00:39:59.000 They have just entered from the back.

00:40:02.000 From back here.

00:40:04.000 And they have moved to the front.

00:40:06.000 Over here.

00:40:07.000 And they are literally going to force us to leave.

00:40:10.000 Okay, so we can cut it off.

00:40:11.000 So basically what happened here is that the DNC, right?

00:40:14.000 Debbie Wasserman Schultz, she says she has nothing to do with this.

00:40:17.000 This is the state convention.

00:40:19.000 They were choosing caucus members and Bernie Sanders supporters wanted 64 rejected pro-Sanders delegates.

00:40:26.000 This is according to RealClearPolitics, listed in a minority report prepared by their campaign.

00:40:30.000 They wanted them to be able to participate in selecting delegates for the national convention.

00:40:35.000 This lady, as you saw right there, declared a voice vote, and then arbitrarily just declared what the result of the voice vote was, right?

00:40:40.000 She says, Ayes and Nays, you can't hear anything, right?

00:40:43.000 It's clear, you can't, there's no more A's than Nays for sure.

00:40:45.000 She just declares it over, smacks the gavel down, like, I mean, like,

00:40:52.000 Bill Clinton slapping a model's ass, and it just takes the gavel and just whack!

00:40:56.000 And then she walks off all pissed off.

00:40:59.000 She walks out like a wrecking ball.

00:41:03.000 There's chaos inside the Democratic National Convention, inside the Democratic Party.

00:41:07.000 Here's a Nevada convention leader, and he's saying, look, you guys are disenfranchising us.

00:41:11.000 This is a Sanders supporter.

00:41:12.000 The credentials minority report is based on the challenge of 64 Sanders delegates.

00:41:19.000 Contrary to the procedures and precedents set by the committee, nearly none of these 64 people were presented with the opportunity to be heard by the committee or to demonstrate that they are registered Democrats.

00:41:34.000 We, the undersignees, as duly elected credentials, I should say duly appointed credentials committee members, submit a minority report that challenges the decision of the committee.

00:41:46.000 Without an opportunity to be heard, no delegate should be stricken.

00:41:55.000 It's all sorts of chaos over on the Democratic side of the aisle.

00:41:58.000 So what's making Trump competitive is the fact that Hillary is so terrible.

00:42:01.000 What's making Hillary competitive is the fact that Trump is so terrible.

00:42:04.000 And so we'll just laugh our way to the Armageddon, to the apocalypse, at both of these crazy characters.

00:42:10.000 And it is amusing.

00:42:11.000 Barbara Boxer, the senator from California, legitimately the dumbest woman in politics.

00:42:15.000 She was at this Nevada convention, and here she is whining about being booed.

00:42:20.000 I bring a message from Bernie Sanders.

00:42:25.000 And I bring a message from Hillary Clinton.

00:42:29.000 We need civility in the Democratic Party.

00:42:33.000 Civility.

00:42:34.000 Because the whole future of the country is at stake.

00:42:39.000 Now when you boo me, you're booing Bernie Sanders.

00:42:43.000 Go ahead.

00:42:44.000 You're booing Bernie Sanders.

00:42:48.000 Bernie is my friend.

00:42:53.000 Okay.

00:42:55.000 Enough of Barbara Boxer.

00:42:56.000 So chaos is in the Democratic Party too.

00:42:57.000 So while the media is focused on the chaos inside our party, which is worth focusing on, the Democratic Party has zones out of chaos.

00:43:04.000 They'll last one more election cycle.

00:43:05.000 They'll last one more election cycle and then this sucker breaks out into the open.

00:43:09.000 This is going to get very ugly for them in about four years.

00:43:11.000 So right now, they're going to hold it together because this is their last flailing grip.

00:43:15.000 But after this, imagine if Trump had actually been stopped at the convention.

00:43:22.000 This would have just bubbled for another four years and then broken loose.

00:43:24.000 So in a way, it's better that he takes the nomination so we can have this battle now.

00:43:29.000 Get this out of the way.

00:43:30.000 I'm somebody who believes that you get the bad stuff out of the way so you can get to the good stuff.

00:43:34.000 The Democrats are holding it off for another four years, but things will get very ugly on their side of the aisle.

00:43:39.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:43:41.000 So things that I like, I'm in the middle of Robert Kaplan's book, The Revenge of Geography, and it's very good.

00:43:46.000 It's basically, it's his argument about how we have all these highfalutin ideas about foreign policy going in, human rights, saving people.

00:43:54.000 And we have to understand the constraints of geography, that there are realities on the ground that are not just ideological, but that are actual physical geographies on the ground, making it difficult for us to control certain areas of the globe, and our machinery may not be comprehensive enough to do all of this without a long-term occupation, as we found out in Afghanistan.

00:44:14.000 As you go through life, try to be that person whose actions teach others how to be better people and better citizens.

00:44:44.000 Reach out to that shy person who's not so popular.

00:44:50.000 Stand up for others when they're being treated unfairly in small things and large.

00:44:58.000 Take the time to listen to that friend who's having a difficult time.

00:45:05.000 Do not hide your faith and your beliefs under a bushel basket, especially

00:45:12.000 in this world that seems to have gone mad with political correctness.

00:45:18.000 Treat others the way you would like to be treated if you stood in their shoes.

00:45:25.000 Okay, we can stop there.

00:45:27.000 I mean, this is basic common sense stuff, but it's missing in both parties now.

00:45:32.000 Treat others decently.

00:45:33.000 No threats of violence.

00:45:35.000 No incentivizing riots.

00:45:38.000 No attempts to put the government gun to somebody's head because you disagree with them.

00:45:41.000 These are basic truths, and this is what I fear being lost on both sides of the political aisle.

00:45:45.000 I always thought it was their side, and what troubles me is what's happening on this side.

00:45:49.000 Okay, quick thing that I hate.

00:45:50.000 There's an MSNBC guest trying to explain why it is that we should all be totally cool with men in women's bathrooms.

00:45:57.000 Her name is Leah Rigour.

00:45:59.000 She's an assistant professor at Harvard Kennedy School of Business.

00:46:02.000 And here she is reacting to Obama's order that all public education facilities allow students to use the bathroom that matches the gender they identify with.

00:46:10.000 They don't have to change their sex.

00:46:11.000 They don't have to change it on their birth certificate.

00:46:13.000 They don't have to change their name.

00:46:14.000 Nothing.

00:46:14.000 They just get to say, here's how I identify.

00:46:16.000 They need maybe a note from home or something, which will never be forged, because kids never forge notes from home.

00:46:22.000 It's never happened.

00:46:23.000 I've never done that.

00:46:25.000 And here she is explaining why conservatives are going to have a problem with this.

00:46:30.000 This is a hot button issue amongst conservatives, right?

00:46:33.000 This is not necessarily an issue that needs to be, that shouldn't be kind of, I mean, it shouldn't be a radical thing.

00:46:40.000 And what conservatives really need to do, right, what they really need to figure out is how is this different, right, from the civil rights movement of, say, the 1960s, right?

00:46:50.000 Many of them, much of the language that is being used is identical to language that is being used during the 1960s.

00:46:56.000 Okay, just because you're using hijacking language of the 1960s doesn't mean that the underlying facts are the same.

00:47:03.000 It turns out that sex and race are two very different things.

00:47:06.000 It turns out that race doesn't have a lot of connection to anybody's capacity, doesn't have a connection to threat level, doesn't have a connection to anything.

00:47:12.000 But what does have a connection to how people behave is your sex.

00:47:15.000 It turns out that these things are relevant, which is why it was explicitly stated in Title IX of the Civil Rights Act that all these people are now trying to pervert that there would be separate facilities for men and women.

00:47:26.000 Listen, if you want to play this game, especially women, I don't know why women are on board with this.

00:47:30.000 This is for women to go along with the idea that now everybody should hold by the same common standard.

00:47:37.000 You understand, there will never be a women's basketball team again.

00:47:39.000 There will never be a women's baseball team again.

00:47:42.000 All the restrooms will look like garbage because men will be peeing on the floor.

00:47:45.000 So I hope that you enjoy all of this.

00:47:47.000 And beyond all of that, it really is evil how the left targets children for these sorts of moves.

00:47:53.000 Because what they do is, kids are easily confused.

00:47:56.000 Kids need guidance.

00:47:58.000 There's this idea on the left that people are inherently... Here's the amazing thing.

00:48:03.000 They assume that sexuality, gender identity, these things are unchanging and unimpacted by the environment in which people live, but your sex is totally malleable.

00:48:12.000 So I can change from a man into a woman, but in my head...

00:48:15.000 I never change at all based on my environment.

00:48:17.000 So they figure, okay, if we go into a public school and we tell kids that they can be either a boy or a girl depending on what they want to do, that's not going to confuse kids who are 8.

00:48:25.000 That's not going to confuse kids who are 7 and 5.

00:48:27.000 That's not going to confuse kids at all.

00:48:29.000 That's not going to be taking authority away from parents.

00:48:31.000 It's not going to lead to human suffering.

00:48:32.000 Because these kids were always going to be transgender.

00:48:35.000 Nonsense.

00:48:36.000 Nonsense.

00:48:37.000 What they do is they target children by claiming they're protecting a couple of kids.

00:48:40.000 So we have to protect these couple of kids who have a mental illness.

00:48:43.000 We have to protect them from other kids being cruel to them.

00:48:46.000 Which is, again, such silly nonsense.

00:48:49.000 The fact is that nobody is in favor of cruelty and suggesting that a girl who is a girl go to the bathroom in the girl's room

00:48:56.000 If a girl thinks she's a boy, she has much more significant life issues, really.

00:49:01.000 Significant mental issues and health issues than where she pees when she's at school.

00:49:06.000 But the idea is that you're using the victimized children, these couple of victimized children, in order to victimize all the children by making them victims of this society, this sexless society that never exists except in the perverse heads of the people who push it.

00:49:18.000 It's a battle against reality by the left, but they never stop battling against reality.

00:49:22.000 Well, we'll be back with more tales from the Crypt tomorrow.

00:49:25.000 And I'm sure that there will be lots to talk about.

00:49:27.000 Donald Trump has apparently challenged the Prime Minister of Great Britain to an IQ test.

00:49:33.000 To an IQ off.

00:49:35.000 Which is not how IQ tests work, but he would know that if he had a high one.

00:49:38.000 But we'll talk about that tomorrow.

00:49:40.000 Always lots to talk about here in Trumpmerica.

00:49:43.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:49:44.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - May 16, 2016

Ep. 118 - The Media Discover Trump Has A Penis

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