The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 119 - How The Media Destroyed Hillary Clinton

00:00:00.000 In the aftermath of Donald Trump's stunning presumptive Republican 2016 presidential nomination, a small group of never-Trump advocates have been pressing forward with an attempt to recruit somebody to run as a third-party candidate.

00:00:12.000 According to the Washington Post, Republicans including Bill Kristol, Eric Erickson, Mike Murphy, Stuart Stevens, and Rick Wilson have been throwing out names.

00:00:20.000 Some of those names?

00:00:21.000 Senator Ben Sasse from Nebraska, Ohio Governor John Kasich, retired General James Mattis, and even, ridiculously, another reality TV billionaire, Mark Cuban.

00:00:31.000 A viable third-party candidate could achieve a couple of things for conservatives who don't like Trump.

00:00:35.000 One, it could consolidate support outside the Trump movement, providing the core for a rebuilding movement after Trump goes down.

00:00:42.000 Second, it could theoretically throw a few key states to the third party candidate, stopping both Hillary and Trump from winning the requisite number of electors to gain the White House. 0.98

00:00:51.000 You need 270.

00:00:52.000 If you don't get 270, it goes to the House of Representatives.

00:00:55.000 And if it goes to the House of Representatives, throws the process into the House of Representatives, then presumably somebody else becomes president.

00:01:02.000 So here's the case against doing any of this.

00:01:05.000 There are five reasons not to run a third party candidate.

00:01:07.000 One,

00:01:08.000 Not gonna work.

00:01:09.000 In 1992, Ross Perot won 18.9% of the popular vote.

00:01:10.000 He won zippo zero electoral votes.

00:01:11.000 In 1980, John Anderson won 6.6% of the popular vote.

00:01:19.000 Zero electoral votes.

00:01:21.000 In 1968, George Wallace, a racist, won 13.5% of the electoral vote, and he won 46 electoral votes, all in the Deep South.

00:01:29.000 The chances of a third-party candidate doing significant enough damage in key swing states to take away electoral votes?

00:01:35.000 Really slim, or none.

00:01:37.000 Second reason, it appears desperate.

00:01:39.000 It's unlikely to work, so it seems like a Hail Mary to find somebody who can stop Trump and Hillary.

00:01:44.000 If it fails, that minimizes the level of opposition to both the candidates.

00:01:48.000 Never Trump isn't desperate.

00:01:49.000 We know Trump is a disaster for the GOP and the country. 0.98

00:01:52.000 Hillary is a disaster for the country.

00:01:54.000 We don't need to prove it by attempting to consolidate in a way that fails.

00:01:58.000 Third reason, it's kind of tough to find a conservative who can unify Never Trump.

00:02:03.000 So here's the thing, Trump's utter incomprehensibility as a Republican candidate, it underscores the fact that finding a consensus politician is kind of hard.

00:02:11.000 All successful politicians have to build consensus.

00:02:13.000 Kasich and Ben Sasse, for example, they have very little in common politically other than their opposition to Trump.

00:02:19.000 Would that be enough to consolidate a real conservative opposition?

00:02:22.000 Or would it instead fragment the opposition by providing an alternative that many members of Never Trump don't like? 0.91

00:02:29.000 Fourth reason, just let them burn. 0.99

00:02:31.000 Let them burn. 0.99

00:02:32.000 The Trumpsters are really looking desperately for an excuse to blame anybody but themselves for the looming electoral disaster that may await Trump. 0.60

00:02:39.000 They're already saying openly, never Trump is going to bear responsibility if Trump fails.

00:02:44.000 Consolidating the third party grants unmerited credibility to this particular argument.

00:02:49.000 If Trump goes down, and all the betting markets say he will, the Trump advocates need to own it.

00:02:53.000 There's no need to give them an out.

00:02:55.000 Finally, we need to think about 2020.

00:02:58.000 It's better to sit this one out than be blamed for Trump's failures or cast out of the party altogether.

00:03:02.000 No matter what happens, this is going to be four years in the wilderness for conservatives.

00:03:06.000 But building an alternative party infrastructure is kind of unlikely and much more difficult than allowing Trump to demonstrate he's a historic black swan and then fighting for control of the GOP again.

00:03:17.000 Listen, I'd be happy to vote for Senator Sasse over Trump or Hillary, of course.

00:03:20.000 I'd love another choice.

00:03:21.000 But the strategic case against a third party is pretty strong.

00:03:24.000 HL Mencken said, So, let's let the Trumpsters get it.

00:03:27.000 Good and hard.

00:03:27.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:03:27.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:03:42.000 Alrighty, so here we are, and it's been a busy day for Donald Trump.

00:03:45.000 Lots to talk about in Trump World, and we all live in Trump World now.

00:03:48.000 Some of it's good, some of it's bad, all of it is interesting and fascinating, and as we said yesterday, we are dedicated to the proposition that watching the apocalypse with a comedic grin is more fun than watching it with a downcast glare.

00:04:00.000 So we're going to try and

00:04:02.000 Make light of the fact that we're all going to die and life is meaningless. 0.75

00:04:05.000 So let's start with Donald Trump, the chosen anti-social warrior Donald Trump.

00:04:11.000 He has now made a statement on transgender rights.

00:04:13.000 So as you may have noticed, we'll get back to the transgender issue in a little while.

00:04:17.000 President Obama is now speaking out on the transgender bathrooms that he's pushing and it's really terrible because that's what 0.99

00:04:24.000 Barack Obama does.

00:04:26.000 Donald Trump was asked about it, and here's what he said to the Washington Post, quote, It is a very, very small portion of the population, transgenders.

00:04:33.000 But as I say, you have to protect everybody, including small portions of the population.

00:04:37.000 Presumably, this means you need to have state legislation or federal legislation of the kind that President Obama is pushing.

00:04:43.000 But then, of course, Trump takes both sides of the issue.

00:04:45.000 He says that states need to make the right decisions.

00:04:47.000 He doesn't really explain what that means.

00:04:49.000 He says he hasn't had any exposure to these issues, and he's learning more.

00:04:54.000 He's learning more.

00:04:54.000 So this is his way of copping out.

00:04:56.000 So, all you wonderful people who think that Trump is politically incorrect, no, he isn't.

00:05:02.000 No, he isn't.

00:05:04.000 The greatest referendum on political correctness today is this transgender issue. 1.00

00:05:09.000 It is the transgender issue.

00:05:10.000 It's the greatest referendum on political correctness today, because there's the politically correct position,

00:05:15.000 Which is that women can become men and men can become women and we have to force children to embrace this idea by putting boys in girls bathrooms. 0.97

00:05:22.000 And then there's the politically incorrect position called science.

00:05:25.000 Men are men.

00:05:26.000 Women are women. 1.00

00:05:27.000 And you don't get to cross over by chopping off a few body parts or sewing a few of them on.

00:05:32.000 And President Obama is pushing this particular viewpoint and it really is important.

00:05:35.000 You know, I want to stop for a second and point this out.

00:05:37.000 It is important.

00:05:38.000 The transgender bathroom issue is important. 1.00

00:05:40.000 Not because of bathrooms, but because of transgenderism 0.99

00:05:43.000 As a social construct, transgenderism as a concept, and the unmitigated attempts of the left to target your children in order to push their leftist agenda. 0.61

00:05:53.000 So President Obama, always for the left, always for the left, it has to be done through schools and through children.

00:05:57.000 They always have to push the left agenda through children.

00:06:00.000 It's always for the good of the kids.

00:06:01.000 Of course, all that means is screwing with kids' heads, but it's all for the good of the kiddies.

00:06:06.000 Now the truth is that they say it's to protect transgender kids from bullying. 0.67

00:06:10.000 First of all, there are two transgender kids in the United States.

00:06:12.000 Second of all, even if you want to protect transgender kids from bullying, there's a very simple way to do that. 0.64

00:06:17.000 Have teachers who don't tolerate bullying.

00:06:20.000 Wasn't that easy?

00:06:20.000 Look at that, that's amazing.

00:06:22.000 I was bullied mercilessly in high school.

00:06:24.000 It would have been good if we had a good anti-bully policy. 1.00

00:06:27.000 I wasn't bullied because I was gay or transgender.

00:06:29.000 I was bullied because I was small, and because I was young, and because I was smarter than everybody else.

00:06:33.000 But, you know what?

00:06:34.000 That was basically solved by two things.

00:06:36.000 One, me standing up for myself, and two,

00:06:39.000 My parents, and I've told this story on the air before, my parents going to the school and mandating that there be a crackdown on bullying generally.

00:06:46.000 There shouldn't be bullying in schools, period, for any reason. 0.93

00:06:49.000 You don't need to teach kids that heterosexuality and homosexuality are on moral par in order to stop bullying, and you don't need to teach them the idiocy that men can become women and women men in order to stop bullying. 0.97

00:07:00.000 That's silly, but this is what the left says. 0.98

00:07:02.000 So President Obama said today, quote, 0.85

00:07:09.000 We're talking about kids.

00:07:10.000 And anybody who's been in school, been in high school, who's been a parent, I think should realize that kids who are sometimes in the minority, kids who have

00:07:40.000 A different sexual orientation or transgender are subject to a lot of bullying, potentially.

00:07:49.000 They are vulnerable.

00:07:51.000 And I think it is part of our obligation as a society to make sure that everybody is treated fairly, and our kids are all loved, and that they're protected, and that their dignity is affirmed. 0.99

00:08:07.000 Okay, this is a bunch of crap. 0.99

00:08:09.000 This is a bunch of crap for a few reasons. 1.00

00:08:10.000 First of all, when he says gay children are being bullied in bathrooms, no they're not. 1.00

00:08:14.000 No, they're not. 0.98

00:08:15.000 You don't- nobody knows you're gay unless you say you're gay. 0.86

00:08:17.000 Okay? 0.83

00:08:18.000 And this idea that there's tons of gay kids who are seven and eight years old is also nonsense, but beyond that, this is a straw man saying that transgenderism and homosexuality are the same issue.

00:08:26.000 They're not.

00:08:26.000 They're not the same issue by any stretch of the imagination.

00:08:29.000 In fact, homosexuality is sort of destroyed by transgenderism. 1.00

00:08:32.000 Transgenderism says gender and sex are completely arbitrary, which sort of defeats the idea that men should only be attracted to men if you're homosexual. 0.88

00:08:40.000 Right?

00:08:40.000 Why wouldn't you be attracted to everybody?

00:08:41.000 After all, sex is completely arbitrary.

00:08:43.000 Why should there be any distinction whatsoever?

00:08:45.000 But it's a straw man.

00:08:46.000 More importantly, this is really quite despicable stuff.

00:08:50.000 Schools are the bullies here, okay? 1.00

00:08:53.000 Barack Obama is the bully. 0.85

00:08:55.000 He's saying he has to stop bullying, he has to make everybody feel comfortable. 0.91

00:08:58.000 How about the 99.999% of the population in these school bathrooms who feels uncomfortable when somebody of the opposite sex walks in and they're unclad?

00:09:08.000 How about the little girls who don't feel comfortable with a boy peeing next to them in the bathroom?

00:09:12.000 Those people have to be made to feel like bigots and feel uncomfortable?

00:09:15.000 So the bullying thing really goes both ways, but there's a lot less- but let's put it this way.

00:09:19.000 The bullying of transgender kids is a lot less of an issue for our government and our society than the federal government bullying everyone in the United States into embracing the idea that an 18-year-old man walking into a 15-year-old girl's locker room is suddenly okay.

00:09:32.000 Which is what he's talking about.

00:09:34.000 There's also something else that's, I think, worthy of examination here.

00:09:38.000 And that is, that this isn't really about protection of kids in any real way.

00:09:42.000 What this really is about, what this really is about is indoctrination and perversion of children.

00:09:46.000 That's really what this is about.

00:09:47.000 The left always starts with kids. 0.98

00:09:48.000 Notice, Obama didn't mandate this transgender bathroom nonsense. 1.00

00:09:52.000 He didn't mandate this for the U.S. 0.93

00:09:53.000 military.

00:09:54.000 He didn't mandate it for federal government facilities.

00:09:57.000 He mandated it for public schools.

00:09:59.000 He mandated it for kids.

00:10:00.000 Why?

00:10:00.000 Well, supposedly it's because the left believes that sexual identity, sexual identity is unchanging and rigid.

00:10:07.000 And sex itself, gender itself, is malleable.

00:10:10.000 Therefore, if you teach kids that they get to choose your sex, since it's malleable, it's a social construct anyway, you're not doing them any harm.

00:10:16.000 You tell a five-year-old girl to choose whether she's a girl or a boy, you're not harming her in any way, because that's all just social construct nonsense.

00:10:22.000 Similarly, if you tell a five-year-old girl that lesbianism is fine, she's not gonna be more likely to try out lesbianism because she's already set in her ways. 0.89

00:10:30.000 It's all biological, right?

00:10:31.000 It's ingrained right there in the biology.

00:10:34.000 Of course, precisely the reverse is true. 0.65

00:10:36.000 You tell a five-year-old girl she can be a girl or a boy, you're gonna screw with her head. 0.99

00:10:39.000 You tell a five-year-old girl that anybody she chooses to have sex with, when she's not even pubescent yet, right? 0.97

00:10:46.000 That anybody who she will eventually choose to have sex with is perfectly morally hunky-dory and you think this isn't gonna change behavior, 0.83

00:10:52.000 Nonsense. 0.80

00:10:53.000 Nonsense.

00:10:53.000 Particularly because science tends to show that sexuality is remarkably fluid.

00:10:57.000 Sexual identity certainly is remarkably fluid.

00:11:00.000 There's a reason that two generations ago, there's a poll in Britain recently, it showed for people who were born two generations ago, 95% say they're straight.

00:11:08.000 Of people who were born in our generation, millennials, something like only 43% say they are binary straight.

00:11:14.000 Okay, 43%.

00:11:15.000 Don't tell me that's genetics, gang.

00:11:17.000 That's society pushing a perception of what sexual identity should be. 0.99

00:11:20.000 Leftists aren't dumb. 0.96

00:11:21.000 They know all of this. 0.94

00:11:22.000 Their whole case is that parents should not be allowed to raise their children with traditional morality and traditional sex roles because that's bad.

00:11:30.000 And that's bad because the government can't control the kids then.

00:11:32.000 It's bad because traditional sex roles, the idea of man-woman marriage, creation of a family, it's an obstacle to government control of your child. 0.66

00:11:40.000 And so what they do is they use the bullying agenda in order to come in and take control of your children by saying that if we leave it to you to educate your own kid, then your kid will end up being a bully and targeting other kids, which of course is absolute nonsense.

00:11:52.000 So on that issue, where, you know, some real moral leadership would be good,

00:11:56.000 No shock here.

00:11:57.000 Donald Trump runs for the hills.

00:11:58.000 He runs for the hills.

00:11:59.000 There's your politically incorrect warrior.

00:12:02.000 Now that's not to say he's politically correct across the board.

00:12:05.000 He does, at times, say good things.

00:12:07.000 But Trump is a mixed bag. 0.92

00:12:09.000 He's a grab bag. 1.00

00:12:10.000 He's a, we like to say, a crap sandwich. 1.00

00:12:12.000 He's salami and dog crap. 1.00

00:12:14.000 And so first the salami. 1.00

00:12:15.000 Here's Donald Trump talking about national security.

00:12:18.000 And here's why some people like him on national security.

00:12:21.000 Our country has enough difficulty right now

00:12:24.000 Without letting the Syrians pour in. 1.00

00:12:26.000 And again, we don't know that they're Syrians.

00:12:28.000 We don't know where they come from.

00:12:29.000 We have no idea.

00:12:30.000 They could be ISIS. 0.62

00:12:31.000 They could be who knows.

00:12:32.000 But we're going to stop that immediately.

00:12:35.000 Do you think it's going to take another attack like 9-11 for people to wake up about border security and take it seriously?

00:12:42.000 I do.

00:12:43.000 I actually do.

00:12:44.000 Bad things will happen.

00:12:45.000 A lot of bad things will happen.

00:12:47.000 There will be attacks that you wouldn't believe.

00:12:49.000 There will be attacks by the people that are right now coming into our country because I have no doubt 1.00

00:12:54.000 In my mind.

00:12:55.000 I mean, you look at it, they have cell phones, so they don't have money, they don't have anything, they have cell phones.

00:13:00.000 Who pays their monthly charges, right?

00:13:03.000 They have cell phones with the flags, the ISIS flags on them.

00:13:08.000 And then we're supposed to say, isn't this wonderful that we're taking a break now.

00:13:11.000 Okay, so everything he's saying here is right.

00:13:12.000 Right?

00:13:13.000 I mean, everything he's saying here is right.

00:13:14.000 Although, I do have to laugh when he uses, when he uses phrases like, bad things will happen.

00:13:20.000 I go, thanks Nostradamus.

00:13:21.000 Really, really, that's extremely helpful.

00:13:23.000 Here's the problem.

00:13:24.000 Right?

00:13:24.000 For every, for every piece of salami, there's also a dog turd.

00:13:27.000 So here's the dog turd.

00:13:28.000 Here's Donald Trump going after David Cameron, saying that, this is the Prime Minister of Britain, saying that, you know, we're not going to have a very good relationship.

00:13:35.000 For some reason,

00:13:36.000 Piers Morgan is interviewing him.

00:13:37.000 Piers Morgan is a big Donald Trump fan.

00:13:39.000 They're both reality TV stars. 1.00

00:13:40.000 Piers Morgan is still on TV, although not on American TV since I helped drive him off American TV because he's a stupid, stupid fat man. 1.00

00:13:47.000 Here is Piers Morgan talking to Donald Trump. 1.00

00:13:51.000 David Cameron has refused to retract what he said about your comments about Muslims. 1.00

00:13:56.000 He says they were stupid, they were divisive, and they were wrong. 1.00

00:14:01.000 What's your response? 1.00

00:14:02.000 Honestly, I don't care.

00:14:03.000 It doesn't matter.

00:14:04.000 I mean, it's fine.

00:14:05.000 He's your president and he's the British Prime Minister.

00:14:08.000 It looks like we're not going to have a very good relationship.

00:14:10.000 Who knows?

00:14:10.000 I hope to have a good relationship with him.

00:14:12.000 But it sounds like he's not willing to address the problem either.

00:14:15.000 People can pretend like it's not existing.

00:14:19.000 But take a look.

00:14:20.000 Take a look at London.

00:14:21.000 Take a look at certain sections of some cities throughout Europe and throughout the world.

00:14:26.000 It is a disaster.

00:14:27.000 And the police are, you know, they want nothing to do with it.

00:14:30.000 It's as bad as it gets.

00:14:32.000 Now, we don't have to talk about it or we could.

00:14:34.000 And I will tell you this.

00:14:35.000 Would you like David Cameron... When it was brought up, no.

00:14:37.000 Would you like him to withdraw the particular comments that you're stupid, divisive and wrong with your view about Muslims? 1.00

00:14:43.000 Well, number one, I'm not stupid, OK? 1.00

00:14:44.000 I can tell you that right now. 0.81

00:14:47.000 Just the opposite.

00:14:48.000 Number two, in terms of divisive, I don't think I'm a divisive person.

00:14:51.000 I'm a unifier.

00:14:52.000 Unlike our president now, I'm a unifier.

00:14:54.000 I'll say this, when I made the statement six months ago and there was a clamor only by the politicians, millions of people were calling and saying Donald Trump is right.

00:15:04.000 You know that and so do I. People that live in Great Britain and people that live all over the world were saying Donald Trump is right.

00:15:11.000 Okay, so he says that we're going to have a bad relationship, that Cameron and he will have a bad relationship if he's president.

00:15:17.000 Good way to set off on his international tour.

00:15:21.000 And again, there again you hear him do the routine that we talked about last week, which is, I may have said something wrong, but it was really popular, so that makes it okay.

00:15:28.000 Yeah, there's something to be said even about this for Trump.

00:15:31.000 So Trump is brash, he's bold, he says things no one else will say, and then he refuses to back off of them.

00:15:36.000 All of that is true.

00:15:37.000 Now, Donald Trump is laying forth his new strategy against Hillary Clinton, and his new strategy against Hillary Clinton is basically to hit her with everything that is possible to hit her with.

00:15:48.000 In order for that to succeed, the media really has to be quite terrible.

00:15:52.000 The media has to be quite terrible.

00:15:53.000 Fortunately for Trump, the media are quite terrible.

00:15:56.000 So it feels like when the media are trying to cover for Hillary Clinton, they're trying to cover for Hillary Clinton.

00:16:01.000 Trump has perfected an art that was first coined, I think by Newt Gingrich in 2012, of attacking the media as the as the unfair arbiter, and he's exactly right.

00:16:10.000 So the media is playing both angles.

00:16:11.000 On the one hand, they're pushing Trump forward by saying that he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, and he's a

00:16:16.000 More?

00:16:40.000 Republicans actually trust Trump than Ryan to lead the party.

00:16:44.000 That's by a 58 to 39 percent margin.

00:16:47.000 Joe, that's a lot to get through right there.

00:16:48.000 What's jumping out at you?

00:16:49.000 Boy, I'll tell you what, a couple things are jumping out at me.

00:16:51.000 First of all, this is not Paul Ryan's party anymore.

00:16:54.000 It's Donald Trump's party.

00:16:55.000 It has nothing to do with Donald Trump.

00:16:57.000 It has a lot to do with where this Republican party has gone over the past 20, 30 years.

00:17:02.000 Working class voters.

00:17:03.000 Feel disconnected from Washington, D.C., especially Washington, D.C.

00:17:08.000 Republicans.

00:17:09.000 They feel like they let them down.

00:17:12.000 Not only when they ran the deficit and the debt up during the Bush years, but also they elected the Tea Partiers in 2010 to get rid of Obamacare and do other great things that didn't happen.

00:17:23.000 2014, the same thing happened.

00:17:26.000 That's the first thing.

00:17:27.000 This is not Paul Ryan's party.

00:17:29.000 Paul Ryan's policies are not the policies that drive the Republican base anymore.

00:17:34.000 They are more of a populist base of policy.

00:17:38.000 Okay, so he's saying, and a lot of people in the press are saying, Trump is something new.

00:17:42.000 Trump is something magical.

00:17:43.000 So at the same time they're saying that, they're also trying to tear him down.

00:17:46.000 They're also trying to tear down Trump.

00:17:47.000 So Scarborough himself says he doesn't like, he doesn't back Trump for president because of his Muslim policies, which is, of all his policies, if you're gonna target one that's truly awful, awful, awful, that one, for me, stacks well behind, let's start a giant trade war that destroys the international economy, and also, let's make sure that we nuke

00:18:08.000 There are certain policies that seem to rise above that one, in my estimation, as far as dangerous.

00:18:13.000 But the media that are building Trump up are also trying to tear him down.

00:18:17.000 So, for example, on Sunday, Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday, he says to Bob Woodward, Bob Woodward is of the Washington Post, and there's a report that the Washington Post is going to put 20 reporters on Donald Trump.

00:18:28.000 And here's Chris Wallace asking Woodward about it.

00:18:30.000 The Washington Post has 20 people working on every phase of Donald Trump's life.

00:18:37.000 That's correct.

00:18:37.000 We've announced a month ago that we're doing a book and we're going to do stories as this evolves.

00:18:44.000 The equivalent effort will be made on Hillary Clinton. 0.97

00:18:48.000 I mean, it's traditional, and I think particularly in this campaign, which is one of those pivot points in the history of the country, we need to tell people everything we can find out.

00:19:02.000 That means a massive effort.

00:19:04.000 Are you making an equal effort?

00:19:06.000 Because that's something that we're hearing from folks.

00:19:08.000 An equal effort on Hillary Clinton?

00:19:09.000 You've got 20 people on her?

00:19:11.000 Well, it's not necessarily the number of people.

00:19:14.000 It's who's working on it.

00:19:15.000 So you've got smarter people on the other end.

00:19:45.000 He was a playboy back in the day.

00:19:46.000 Now, listen, I'm not a fan of playboys, as you know. 0.94

00:19:49.000 I think that that does make you kind of gross. 0.74

00:19:52.000 But Bill Clinton, right? 0.93

00:19:54.000 I mean, you don't get to claim that the guy who allegedly raped people is less bad than the guy who brought a swimsuit model to a bathroom and asked her to put on a bikini and then said she looked nice in the bikini.

00:20:05.000 Not quite the same thing.

00:20:07.000 The New York Times reporters have now been ripped by even the women quoted in the story. 1.00

00:20:12.000 These New York Times reporters appeared on MSNBC to talk about it.

00:20:15.000 There's no single dimension to Donald Trump and women. 0.97

00:20:20.000 And I think our story makes that clear.

00:20:22.000 I think it makes it clear through the voices of the people we interviewed.

00:20:25.000 What's your response to the reaction from Donald Trump so far?

00:20:28.000 Well, you know, we spoke to Donald Trump for an hour and included his voice in our story and really valued the time that we got to spend with him on the phone.

00:20:38.000 And we believe that at every opportunity in the story, we gave him a chance to sort of give his side of the story.

00:20:45.000 And we'd be happy to continue talking to him about this.

00:20:47.000 If he wants to get back on the phone with us and chat more about his experiences with women, we'd welcome that.

00:20:52.000 I believe Roanne has asked for an apology.

00:20:57.000 What do you say?

00:20:58.000 We really stand by our story.

00:21:01.000 We believe we quoted her fairly and accurately and that the story really speaks for itself.

00:21:06.000 Okay, so the story speaks for itself.

00:21:07.000 They tried to tear down Trump.

00:21:08.000 Now here are the women who are actually in the story talking about Donald Trump with Megyn Kelly last night.

00:21:14.000 So at the time, when you're experienced with him, did he seem sexist to you?

00:21:21.000 Well, you have to understand, you've got to put it in the context of the time.

00:21:23.000 This was 1980, so everybody was sexist, and we were in the construction industry, so that was sexist.

00:21:30.000 But as far as Donald was concerned, no, he wanted the best person, and he thought I was the best person, and he picked me.

00:21:37.000 And so, the Times talks about a moment that you had with Donald Trump, where you started to think he was getting worse in that regard, that he was getting more sexist as the years went on.

00:21:48.000 Yes.

00:21:49.000 Is that true?

00:21:49.000 Absolutely.

00:21:50.000 I mean, I worked for him for a long time, but from 80 to 84, we were very, very close, and we talked all the time, and he never...

00:22:00.000 We're good to go.

00:22:26.000 When the whole Mahler thing happened.

00:22:28.000 And, you know, when he did Playboy magazine, that was just, it seemed unreasonable and unheard of for him at the time.

00:22:34.000 So I was surprised to see him change.

00:22:36.000 Slowly but surely, he started saying more things that surprised me up to this day.

00:22:41.000 And I'm going to get the specifics of that, but I want to bring in Sonata, who, you have nothing but glowing things to say about Mr. Trump.

00:22:48.000 You also experienced some language that may have been diminishing, but you say he was an equal opportunity offender.

00:22:55.000 Well, listen, he's a businessman, and I know that he doesn't have the greatest history in terms of what he says about many women, but in a professional setting, and I was running four different projects in terms of marketing between 2003 and 2007, he was extraordinarily professional.

00:23:14.000 He was very tough, but he was fair.

00:23:16.000 Did you two know each other, Sonata?

00:23:18.000 You and Barbara?

00:23:20.000 I did not.

00:23:20.000 Unfortunately, I didn't have the pleasure of meeting Barbara because I was there in 2003.

00:23:24.000 So did you Sonata ever experience, you know, what you what you perceived as sexism?

00:23:29.000 And on the other hand, did you experience Trump giving you and and or other women unusual or extraordinary opportunities?

00:23:39.000 Absolutely not.

00:23:41.000 It was equal opportunity in that.

00:23:43.000 Okay, so we can stop here.

00:23:44.000 Bottom line is that a lot of the women in the New York Times are quoting that they're not super on board with the New York Times attempt to tear down Trump. 0.93

00:23:52.000 Donald Trump is almost invulnerable on these scores.

00:23:55.000 Donald Trump, it's very difficult for them to take down Donald Trump on the he was mean to women routine.

00:24:00.000 After they've blown all their credibility on Hillary Clinton.

00:24:03.000 They really have blown a lot of credibility on Hillary Clinton.

00:24:06.000 And you can see how this plays out.

00:24:07.000 Over the weekend, Donald Trump was on with George Stephanopoulos on ABC News.

00:24:10.000 And George Stephanopoulos asked Trump about why he won't release his tax returns.

00:24:14.000 Now, do I think Trump is a sexist?

00:24:16.000 Yes. 1.00

00:24:17.000 Do I think that Donald Trump is somebody, and the reason I say he's a sexist is just from this campaign, attacking Heidi Cruz, talking about Carly Fiorina's face, talking about Megyn Kelly bleeding from her wherever, Donald Trump saying back in the 80s that women ought to be treated like pieces of crap, Donald Trump constantly talking about women as pieces of ass for decades. 1.00

00:24:34.000 I think that's sexist. 0.99

00:24:35.000 Do I think that's the end of the world?

00:24:36.000 No.

00:24:37.000 But do I think it's something that's great and appropriate?

00:24:39.000 No, I don't.

00:24:40.000 Okay.

00:24:40.000 All that said, the media are going to have a tough time tearing him down.

00:24:43.000 By the same token,

00:24:45.000 Yeah, I would like to know how much money he's actually worth.

00:24:49.000 I'd like to know what kind of taxes he pays, given that he says that he should pay higher taxes as a very rich man.

00:24:55.000 I'd like to know how much charity he gave.

00:24:57.000 I'd like to know how many people he actually employs and hires.

00:24:59.000 He always says tens of thousands.

00:25:00.000 I'd like to know what that looks like.

00:25:02.000 Okay, that said...

00:25:04.000 Trump can't be caught out on this by the media because the media have no credibility.

00:25:07.000 They built Trump up, number one.

00:25:09.000 And number two, they cover for all of Trump's enemies.

00:25:11.000 So here is George Stephanopoulos going up against Trump, and Trump just knocking him into next week.

00:25:15.000 So I fight very hard to pay as little tax as possible.

00:25:18.000 What is your tax rate?

00:25:20.000 It's none of your business.

00:25:21.000 You'll see it when I release.

00:25:22.000 But I fight very hard to pay as little tax as possible.

00:25:27.000 Okay, and then he would go on to say to George Stephanopoulos that the tax returns are not only none of George Stephanopoulos' business, but that George Stephanopoulos worked for Hillary Clinton, and that therefore he doesn't get to ask him questions about it.

00:25:44.000 It's pretty funny, actually.

00:25:45.000 He'd go on and went right at George Stephanopoulos.

00:25:48.000 I'm trying to find the exact transcript.

00:25:51.000 He says specifically that Stephanopoulos used to be in the war room. 0.99

00:25:56.000 He says that he's a hypocrite. 0.96

00:25:58.000 I mean, it's really very funny stuff, and it's true. 0.98

00:26:01.000 And that's why the media can't go after Donald Trump on all of this.

00:26:04.000 Now, as always, Donald Trump takes all this too far.

00:26:07.000 So battling against the media, that's something that I adore.

00:26:09.000 I don't care who does it.

00:26:10.000 I hate the media.

00:26:11.000 And so I'm glad when Donald Trump hits the media. 0.83

00:26:13.000 That said, Donald Trump has a nasty tendency toward authoritarianism.

00:26:17.000 And so Donald Trump, his attorney, just had to retract a threat to sue the New York Times after that piece came out about women.

00:26:25.000 Trump fired back and his attorney said that they might sue the New York Times.

00:26:29.000 Right?

00:26:30.000 Donald Trump tweeted out, no wonder the New York Times is failing.

00:26:33.000 Who can believe what they write after the false, malicious, and libelous story they did on me.

00:26:37.000 Those are all legal terms, false and malicious, libelous.

00:26:40.000 And so Donald Trump says that he might go after the New York Times and his attorney has to walk it back.

00:26:45.000 That's not the only time that Trump has targeted the media legally, which is the part where I start to say, well, hold on a second.

00:26:50.000 Roger Stone, who is legitimately one of the worst people in all of American politics, he was on the radio, and he says that if Donald Trump is the president of the United States, he will take control of the FCC, which is an independent agency, and then force the FCC to reject CNN's license for broadcast.

00:27:09.000 So he'll take CNN off the air if Donald Trump is president.

00:27:11.000 This is scary authoritarian stuff.

00:27:14.000 What evidence?

00:27:15.000 There is no evidence.

00:27:16.000 I believe every one of these women are credible and telling the truth.

00:27:19.000 But you have organizations like CNN, which is not a news organization, but an advocacy group.

00:27:25.000 And if you attempt to discuss this on the air, and I've seen this done with Steve Malzberg and Kurt Schlichter and yours truly, they literally pull, they pull the cord on your microphone.

00:27:36.000 They turn you off.

00:27:38.000 Frankly, when Donald Trump is president, he should turn off their FCC license.

00:27:41.000 They're not a news organization.

00:27:43.000 They're about censorship.

00:27:45.000 Okay, so he thinks that Donald Trump, if he gets power, will actually take CNN off the air. 0.99

00:27:49.000 So this is the part where, again, Donald Trump, crap sandwich. 0.99

00:27:52.000 The salami is that he's great when he hits the media. 0.99

00:27:55.000 The crap is when he says that he's going to start, as President of the United States, taking control of the media itself. 0.97

00:28:00.000 Now, that's the media versus Donald Trump, and clearly the media has no capacity to take on Trump. 0.99

00:28:05.000 They've created him for 20 years.

00:28:06.000 The same boardrooms where they made the decision to have Donald Trump on The Apprentice and make him into a national media personality for the last 20 years,

00:28:13.000 Those same boardrooms are the ones where they're now saying, what can we do to destroy Donald Trump?

00:28:17.000 And the answer is, once you've made the Frankenstein monster, you have no capacity to destroy the Frankenstein monster.

00:28:23.000 More than that, the media have actually done Trump a service by covering him over the top, over the top coverage of Donald Trump.

00:28:30.000 Every scandal, every foible, every peccadillo, everything that Donald Trump does has been in the public eye for a generation, really a full generation in American life.

00:28:39.000 Every time you schtup somebody, it's on the front page of the New York Post.

00:28:42.000 You do that enough, and basically what you're really doing is you're vaccinating Trump against dirt.

00:28:47.000 Because at a certain point, if you're entirely covered in dirt, another piece of dirt doesn't look like anything.

00:28:51.000 Right? 0.98

00:28:51.000 Trump is black socks. 0.98

00:28:52.000 Black socks. 0.93

00:28:53.000 They never get dirty.

00:28:54.000 The longer you wear them, the blacker they get. 0.99

00:28:56.000 Right?

00:28:56.000 That's Donald Trump.

00:28:58.000 Donald Trump is just black socks. 0.99

00:28:59.000 And so it's very difficult to throw mud on somebody who's completely made of mud. 0.98

00:29:04.000 At this point, he's a mud monster, and they made him a mud monster, so there's no way to take him down, especially since they told us that the mud monster was fun. 1.00

00:29:10.000 They told us the mud monster was good and entertaining, that he was a playboy, that he was a gallant, that Donald Trump was the kind of guy who was squiring the most beautiful women, that he was Bruce Wayne in the Batman flicks, that he was squiring around two models on each arm in a Lamborghini. 0.97

00:29:26.000 Right, that was Donald Trump, to Wayne Tower.

00:29:29.000 Right, Donald Trump was Bruce Wayne.

00:29:30.000 And now when they say, well, you know, he's a really, really bad guy, it doesn't wash and it doesn't work.

00:29:35.000 So, on the other hand, what they've been doing with Hillary is protecting her for years, and the Clintons, they've been protecting for years.

00:29:43.000 So instead of just exposing the public to all of the Clintons' dirt, they've been burying the Clintons' dirt.

00:29:48.000 And this juxtaposition is really good for Donald Trump, really good for Donald Trump, not bad, good.

00:29:53.000 Right?

00:29:53.000 On the one hand, the media have vaccinated him against dirt.

00:29:56.000 On the other hand, the media have basically done, for the Clintons, what overprotective parents used to do for their kids back during the polio days.

00:30:03.000 In the 1930s, before the polio vaccine, rich kids actually had an outsized chance of coming down with poliomyelitis.

00:30:10.000 The reason for this is because they weren't out in the streets playing in the dirt, so their immune system had not been built up to handle polio.

00:30:17.000 So if they got polio, then it was much more severe for them.

00:30:20.000 Okay, that's the Clintons with regard to the media.

00:30:22.000 The media have protected the Clintons in this magic bubble, like John Travolta in the Bubble Boy.

00:30:26.000 They've protected them with this media bubble for so long that if anyone pierces the bubble, it's really damaging.

00:30:31.000 The Hillary Clinton immune system is not built to handle this. 0.99

00:30:34.000 She only has one response, which is, Oh, I'm always being attacked by the vast right-wing conspiracy.

00:30:39.000 Nobody cares if the dirt is good and juicy.

00:30:42.000 Nobody cares if the stuff that's being thrown against the wall sticks.

00:30:45.000 So, take for example, here's the juxtaposition.

00:30:48.000 This is what the entire race is going to be like. 1.00

00:30:49.000 That's why it's going to be wildly entertaining to cover.

00:30:52.000 It should be funny.

00:30:53.000 It should be just a happy, happy day.

00:30:56.000 Here's what it looks like.

00:30:57.000 Hillary's got her campaign idea, and her campaign idea against Donald Trump is that she's going to attack him as somebody who's unstable. 1.00

00:31:04.000 She's going to attack him as somebody who's dangerous, not trustworthy, and somebody who doesn't know policy.

00:31:10.000 But she's gonna start with he's divisive, that he's a misogynist.

00:31:12.000 So here is Hillary Clinton's anti-Trump ad.

00:31:15.000 This was released by Priorities USA.

00:31:16.000 You know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. 1.00

00:31:21.000 Blood coming out of her wherever.

00:31:23.000 Does she have a good body? 1.00

00:31:24.000 No. 1.00

00:31:24.000 Does she have a fat ass? 1.00

00:31:25.000 Absolutely. 1.00

00:31:27.000 You like girls that are 5'1", they come up to you to where? 1.00

00:31:30.000 If Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her.

00:31:32.000 I view a person who is flat chested as very hard to be attacked. 0.99

00:31:36.000 And you can tell them to go f*** themselves. 0.91

00:31:41.000 Does Donald Trump really speak for you? 0.98

00:31:44.000 Priorities USA Action is responsible for the content of this advertising.

00:31:47.000 Okay, this is a crappy ad.

00:31:49.000 This is a crappy ad for a variety of reasons.

00:31:51.000 So folks, if you can't see it, this is why you need to subscribe to Daily Wire so you're up on the news.

00:31:55.000 Subscribe to this podcast so you're up on the news and you can actually see what we're looking at.

00:31:59.000 It's not just they're playing audio of Donald Trump there.

00:32:01.000 They're also having women mouth what Donald Trump is saying while wearing t-shirts of Donald Trump, which is visually confusing.

00:32:06.000 It's just visually, you're looking at this and going, why is this black lady mouthing Donald Trump's words with a picture of Donald Trump on her face, on her chest? 0.75

00:32:15.000 Like, it's weird.

00:32:15.000 You got this old woman wearing Donald Trump t-shirt and mouthing Donald Trump's words.

00:32:20.000 I'm not sure what I'm supposed to gather from any of this, right?

00:32:23.000 That's problem number one.

00:32:25.000 Problem number two is that the music behind this, and this is just a basic semiotic thing, the music behind this, if you're going to do a Donald Trump is scary for women ad, you need to use scary music.

00:32:36.000 It needs to be Donald Trump is scary for women. 1.00

00:32:38.000 He's terrible to women. 1.00

00:32:39.000 He's cruel to women. 1.00

00:32:40.000 He's awful. 0.98

00:32:40.000 A couple of weeks ago, we played an ad in Arkansas that's playing along these lines. 0.98

00:32:44.000 Much better ad. 0.99

00:32:45.000 This one's garbage. 1.00

00:32:45.000 It's a terrible ad. 1.00

00:32:47.000 Finally, there's an actual outright lie in this ad.

00:32:49.000 So at the very end, they get to the part where he says, they need to be, they basically should be, you know, F them, essentially. 0.86

00:32:56.000 That quote was about China's trade policy.

00:32:59.000 It was not about women.

00:33:00.000 So they took it completely out of context.

00:33:02.000 So when this old lady says this, right? 0.90

00:33:04.000 When this old lady says this, they should go F themselves, right?

00:33:09.000 That old lady saying that, that's not even about women. 1.00

00:33:13.000 And Trump immediately hits back on that, right?

00:33:15.000 He says, that's not what I said, right?

00:33:18.000 That's not what I said in any way.

00:33:20.000 What he tweeted back was, wow, 30,000 emails were deleted by crooked Hillary Clinton. 0.96

00:33:25.000 She said they had to do with a wedding reception. 0.99

00:33:27.000 Liar, how can she run? 1.00

00:33:28.000 And then she says, the pathetic new hit ad against me misrepresents the final line. 1.00

00:33:32.000 You can tell them to go blank themselves. 0.99

00:33:34.000 It was about China, not women. 0.97

00:33:37.000 Crooked Hillary Clinton put out an ad where I am misquoted on women. 1.00

00:33:39.000 Can't believe she would misrepresent the facts.

00:33:41.000 My hit was on China. 0.96

00:33:43.000 Amazing that Crooked Hillary can do a hit ad on me concerning women when her husband was the worst abuser of women in US political history. 1.00

00:33:50.000 And this is the part where Donald Trump...

00:33:52.000 is going to defeat Hillary Clinton.

00:33:53.000 So Hillary will wheel out all the dirt on Trump, but again, he's black socks. 0.79

00:33:57.000 He never gets dirty.

00:33:58.000 The longer you wear him, the blacker he gets, right? 0.99

00:34:00.000 When he hits Hillary, Hillary is the bubble boy.

00:34:03.000 And when you hit the bubble boy, the bubble boy goes down.

00:34:05.000 So that last tweet there, about how her husband was the worst abuser of women in US political history?

00:34:11.000 That's true.

00:34:12.000 That's true.

00:34:13.000 By any stretch of the imagination, that's true. 0.99

00:34:16.000 It makes it very difficult to say, oh, it's terrible that Donald Trump said she's bleeding from her wherever, when your husband was literally raping people and you were threatening the rape victims. 0.98

00:34:25.000 Makes it real hard. 0.97

00:34:27.000 And Trump is not afraid to use anything, and this is the thing.

00:34:29.000 Again, the immune system for the Hillary campaign is gone. 1.00

00:34:32.000 They have no immune system, which is why Bernie Sanders is able to just walk in.

00:34:36.000 I mean, he's a weak virus, Bernie Sanders, right?

00:34:38.000 He's not even a solid case of the flu. 0.98

00:34:40.000 He's more like a cold. 0.99

00:34:41.000 And he's about to kill Hillary Clinton. 0.99

00:34:43.000 Her candidacy is going to die at the hands of a 73-year-old, almost inert virus.

00:34:48.000 What happens when there's an actual virus that attacks her in the name of character attacks?

00:34:52.000 So the best tweet that Trump tweeted today was actually none of these.

00:34:56.000 It was Trump's tweet on Hillary's claim that she was going to have Bill handle the economy.

00:35:00.000 So Hillary came out and she said, Bill won't be a member of my campaign or a member of my cabinet, but he will be a member of, he will be the guy who handles the economy, is what he says.

00:35:10.000 He'll be the guy who handles the economy.

00:35:13.000 So, Donald Trump rightly tweets, quote, Crooked Hillary said her husband is going to be in charge of the economy. 0.99

00:35:19.000 If so, he should run, not her.

00:35:22.000 Will he bring the Energizer to D.C.?

00:35:24.000 For people who don't know what the Energizer is, the Energizer is a reference.

00:35:28.000 In Ronald Kessler's book about the Secret Service, it's a reference to Bill Clinton's blonde mistress, who is squired in to Chappaqua every time Hillary Clinton goes out of town.

00:35:37.000 Right, so the implication here, right?

00:35:40.000 Donald Trump is not afraid to just throw the kitchen sink.

00:35:43.000 And by the way, this is great.

00:35:45.000 I love it so much, right?

00:35:46.000 You're talking to maybe the number one anti-Trump advocate on the right, and I love this.

00:35:51.000 This is great, okay?

00:35:52.000 The reason that it's great is twofold.

00:35:54.000 Number one, what he's saying here is exactly correct.

00:35:57.000 Okay?

00:35:59.000 If Hillary Clinton is trying to run on her husband's career, why isn't he running? 1.00

00:36:03.000 Why is she running? 1.00

00:36:03.000 What do they have to do with each other? 1.00

00:36:05.000 They don't even like each other.

00:36:06.000 And that's his final point there, which is, look, if we want Bill there, and we want a woman who Bill loves, don't bring Hillary. 0.91

00:36:12.000 He can't stand Hillary. 1.00

00:36:13.000 Let him bring the one he's nailing.

00:36:15.000 All right, let him bring the hot blonde one that they're squiring into Chappaqua. 1.00

00:36:19.000 So Donald, this sort of stuff, because here's the thing.

00:36:21.000 Now that he said Energizer, he runs the news cycle, folks.

00:36:24.000 He's big enough.

00:36:25.000 He has 8.7 million followers.

00:36:27.000 The news cycle will revolve around this kind of thing.

00:36:30.000 So now what do you get?

00:36:31.000 You're going to get days of commentary on what does he mean by the Energizer.

00:36:36.000 What is that?

00:36:37.000 And then you get these charges reviewed, right?

00:36:39.000 Because you need the background, right?

00:36:40.000 I had to explain to you what the Energizer was.

00:36:42.000 So will everyone else in the media.

00:36:44.000 What is the Energizer?

00:36:45.000 Why does that have to do with Hillary Clinton? 0.94

00:36:47.000 Why does that have to do with Bill?

00:36:48.000 And Hillary's only response is going to be, it's sexist to make me responsible for my husband's affairs. 1.00

00:36:53.000 Well, when you were running the bimbo eruption unit in the White House, it ain't that sexist.

00:36:58.000 So this is all, Hillary, look, here's how Hillary is responding to these sorts of things. 0.97

00:37:03.000 She was confronted by a protester, and Hillary looks two steps away from death here.

00:37:08.000 And here's Hillary Clinton wearing what appears to be a uniform stolen from Baskin Robbins.

00:37:16.000 And she's talking to a protester, I think he's in Kentucky.

00:37:19.000 And your governor did such a great job, and your current governor is trying to undo it all.

00:37:25.000 Undo it all!

00:37:27.000 Oh yes it is, ma'am.

00:37:29.000 Yes it is.

00:37:31.000 Yes it is.

00:37:36.000 Now, you are entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

00:37:51.000 And I'll be happy when I finish talking to everybody else for you to come over here and you can tell me what you're saying and we can talk and we can hear what's on your mind.

00:38:04.000 But I'll tell you what the truth is and you know it's time people stopped listening to Republican propaganda.

00:38:11.000 Okay, first of all, okay, so quick note.

00:38:14.000 I used to watch the Behind the Rings of Lord of the Rings, right?

00:38:16.000 And the Behind the Rings of Lord of the Rings, which is my favorite film trilogy.

00:38:20.000 And one of the things they talk about is how they created the voice of the Balrog.

00:38:24.000 Okay, how they created that voice, how that sound effect was made.

00:38:27.000 And what they did is they took legitimately the sound of a brick,

00:38:34.000 Uh, like a gravel brick, like a, what do you call it, a cinder block.

00:38:37.000 Like, they took a cinder block, and they rubbed it against another piece of cinder block, really slowly, and then miked it up.

00:38:42.000 Right?

00:38:42.000 So that's how you get that rumbly, gravelly sound.

00:38:45.000 That's also how they created the voice of Hillary Clinton.

00:38:47.000 So when Hillary Clinton speaks, it's actually the voice of the balrog, except sped up and made incredibly shrill.

00:38:52.000 And yes, it is shrill, folks.

00:38:54.000 Shrill has a definition, and Hillary fits the definition. 1.00

00:38:56.000 There are men who are shrill also.

00:38:58.000 But, you know, that's a whole different category right there.

00:39:02.000 If this is her best shot, like when she gets hit with something, you're not entitled to your own facts.

00:39:06.000 Is there a cliche she won't spout?

00:39:08.000 Hillary Clinton is basically an athlete who's asked after the game if that game went well after they lost by 20 points. 0.96

00:39:15.000 They say, well, you know, we've got to take it one game at a time.

00:39:17.000 They didn't really enjoy it.

00:39:18.000 And Trump, Trump is the guy who

00:39:21.000 Gives the great press conference quotes afterward.

00:39:24.000 It's gonna be very difficult for Hillary to fight all of that. 1.00

00:39:27.000 And Trump is using the fact that the media have protected Hillary for so long against her.

00:39:31.000 She's not immune to these sorts of charges.

00:39:33.000 In fact, she's precisely the opposite.

00:39:35.000 She's very vulnerable to them.

00:39:36.000 Okay, time for some things that I like and some things that I don't like.

00:39:39.000 Okay, so, things that I like.

00:39:41.000 Somebody emailed me and made me aware of this channel on YouTube called Ben Shapiro Thug Life.

00:39:47.000 And it's, I have to admit, I laughed really hard when I saw this.

00:39:52.000 This is a clip of me.

00:39:53.000 I'm trying to remember which school this was.

00:39:55.000 I think this is Virginia Tech, I think.

00:39:58.000 I was speaking at Virginia Tech, and I was confronted by someone who disagreed, and you'll see how it goes.

00:40:03.000 And I'll describe it to you if you don't subscribe.

00:40:05.000 But again, subscribe, folks, so that you'll get the joke.

00:40:07.000 It's very difficult for me to see how it's not a privilege to get a lower score on the SAT than the Asian guy who's living in exactly the same circumstance. 0.97

00:40:15.000 He gets penalized 50 points, you get 230 points on the SATs.

00:40:18.000 That is definitionally a privilege.

00:40:20.000 So there's one.

00:40:22.000 Do you disagree?

00:40:23.000 Yeah, but I don't want to take up everyone's time, so I'm just gonna let him.

00:40:36.000 So here's my message to the bloviating jackasses outside. 1.00

00:40:40.000 Toughen up, you spoiled brat snowflakes, if you actually want a better world. 1.00

00:41:03.000 Well, there already are.

00:41:04.000 It's called fraternity texts.

00:41:05.000 But if they're not involved, should they walk out and leave their kids, and then you have this special sign?

00:41:10.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:41:10.000 I'm in favor of that.

00:41:11.000 It's called marriage, and the left undermine it.

00:41:13.000 It was awesome.

00:41:18.000 Okay, so, folks, you can't see these things.

00:41:22.000 Basically, the system of marriage has been raised to elude women of all time, and then feminism came along and said that women need men like fish need a bicycle, and it turns out that women need men like women need men. 0.58

00:41:36.000 So somebody took all of these clips of doing stuff.

00:41:39.000 The reason you're hearing this obnoxious kind of rap track underneath, folks, if you're listening, is because somebody took these clips of me, and then they did like a freeze frame of me, and they put a blunt in my mouth, and a- and like a gold chain around my neck, and then it says thug life.

00:41:53.000 So, I find this humorous.

00:41:55.000 That's all I can say.

00:41:56.000 Whoever's doing this, well done.

00:41:59.000 It's very funny, considering that I would not... I have never smoked pot, number one.

00:42:04.000 And number two, I wouldn't know a rap song if it came up and bit me on the ass. 1.00

00:42:09.000 So there's that. 1.00

00:42:09.000 Okay. 1.00

00:42:10.000 Second thing that I like today...

00:42:13.000 Movies, I'm trying to, I'm trying to do some more modern movies, because I've been doing a lot of old movies lately.

00:42:17.000 Um, so, modern movie that I really like, um, L.A.

00:42:20.000 Confidential.

00:42:22.000 It's from 1998.

00:42:23.000 Really, really good film.

00:42:25.000 Should have won Best Picture that year.

00:42:26.000 I think, was it the same year as Saving Private Ryan?

00:42:29.000 I think, maybe Shakespeare and Love Will Net Year.

00:42:30.000 In any case, it's a really, really good film.

00:42:32.000 Um, L.A.

00:42:33.000 Confidential with Russell Crowe and Guy Pearce.

00:42:35.000 Uh, and, uh, and you should check that out.

00:42:37.000 L.A.

00:42:37.000 Confidential is a, it's a really solid film.

00:42:40.000 Okay, couple of things that I hate.

00:42:42.000 So,

00:42:43.000 Number one, Hillary has a brand new plan. 1.00

00:42:45.000 You think Hillary is just going to ruin foreign policy? 1.00

00:42:48.000 She'll ruin domestic policy too. 1.00

00:42:50.000 And one of the problems with the economic collapse, one of the reasons we had an economic collapse, was because of the politicization of our economic system via the federal government.

00:42:58.000 So the subprime meltdown, the subprime crisis, was caused in part because the federal government felt that minorities were being systemically discriminated against, systematically discriminated against.

00:43:08.000 In the banking industry.

00:43:09.000 So what they did is they gave tremendous incentives by the federal government to give subprime mortgages to minority buyers of homes who couldn't afford it.

00:43:18.000 And then it turned out they couldn't afford it because the reason banks weren't giving them loans is because they had bad credit or because they couldn't afford things.

00:43:24.000 So then everything went south and it all imploded.

00:43:27.000 The lesson Democrats learned from this is that we need more of that, not less.

00:43:30.000 So Hillary Clinton has a new plan for the Federal Reserve.

00:43:33.000 The Federal Reserve, for people who aren't versed in economics very much, the Federal Reserve is a, there's something called the Federal Reserve Board, and it's seven governors who are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate.

00:43:43.000 And then another 12 regional presidents of banks, Federal Reserve banks across the nation.

00:43:48.000 The Federal Reserve was instituted in 1913 to do a few things.

00:43:51.000 The first thing it was really instituted to do was insist that federally chartered banks, federally licensed banks, kept a certain amount of their money in reserve in case there was a panic and a run on the bank.

00:44:02.000 The reason that banks used to go bust is because everybody would show up at the same time and say, give me my money.

00:44:07.000 Right, like in It's a Wonderful Life.

00:44:08.000 Everybody shows up at the same time and they, or in Mary Poppins, everybody shows up at the same time

00:44:13.000 And there's what they call a run on the bank, and a lot of the money isn't there, right?

00:44:16.000 Because all the money has been lent out to other people for their various projects.

00:44:20.000 So what they said is, your deposits are guaranteed.

00:44:23.000 So there was a guarantee by the Federal Reserve that up to a certain amount of money, I think right now it's $250,000, if you put that in a federally deposit, if it's part of the FDIC, then it's going to be insured that money is available to you, even if the bank were to, for some reason, go bust.

00:44:39.000 The other thing the Federal Reserve does, and it's much more powerful, is they lend out money to these banks at a prevailing interest rate.

00:44:45.000 This is why whenever you see Janet Yellen set the interest rate, what she's doing is she's setting the rate at which banks can borrow from the central bank to make loans to other people.

00:44:53.000 So if you have a high interest rate, what that means is less loans are being given to people, and that means there's less inflation in terms of real price.

00:45:00.000 Right now, if it's the opposite, if the interest rates don't exist, then banks can take out loans and they can invest it in the stock market, which is why the stock market has gone up, or invest it in real estate.

00:45:10.000 Now, there's an argument to be made that the Federal Reserve shouldn't do any of these things.

00:45:14.000 That basically, the monetary supply should be the monetary supply, the government should not mess around with it, it should always be what it is, you can't just print dollars to get out of government debt, you can't just print dollars to bail out banks, right?

00:45:24.000 That's a good case, I tend to agree with it.

00:45:26.000 However,

00:45:27.000 If you are going to have a Federal Reserve, at the very least, you would imagine, well, it's a banking thing, right?

00:45:31.000 It's an economics thing.

00:45:32.000 You'd probably want the people on it to be economists, people who are familiar with banking, right?

00:45:37.000 You wouldn't want it to be a political agency.

00:45:39.000 Hillary Clinton has now come out, and she says, we need more black people, and we need more women on the Federal Reserve, and we need less bankers on the Federal Reserve.

00:45:47.000 So she presumably wants, like, DeRay McKesson on the Federal Reserve explaining to people why it is that we need to inflate the currency for the sake of black inner-city communities. 0.78

00:45:56.000 If you want to destroy the American economy and destroy the value of the dollar, put a bunch of political hacks in charge of the Federal Reserve.

00:46:03.000 Put them in charge of the Federal Reserve.

00:46:05.000 By the way, when that's happened before, when Richard Nixon, for example, used the Federal Reserve in order to manipulate currency, manipulate the inflation rate in the 70s, it led to a malaise that lasted most of the decade and included the Jimmy Carter administration.

00:46:18.000 Hillary wants to do that same thing, but she wants to fully politicize the Federal Reserve, which is just a genius idea on every level. 1.00

00:46:26.000 So that's genius.

00:46:27.000 And we will part on an even-handed note

00:46:30.000 Roger Stone, who we quoted earlier, Trump's surrogate.

00:46:33.000 You got Hillary Clinton, who wants to take control of the Federal Reserve by putting in charge a bunch of people on diverse bases. 1.00

00:46:38.000 And then you have Roger Stone, who says that Donald Trump, you know, when Donald Trump was acting as his own PR man and using a fake name, as we played yesterday, Roger Stone is about to tell you why there's such a grand history in American tradition of doing this. 0.87

00:46:50.000 This is ridiculous.

00:46:51.000 James Madison, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, they all wrote under pseudonyms.

00:46:57.000 They all had things they wanted to say, and they wrote under pseudonyms.

00:47:01.000 Trump wanted to get his spin on a story, so he handled the press call himself.

00:47:06.000 Probably because he didn't want to pay a public relations expert.

00:47:09.000 What difference does it make?

00:47:11.000 By the way, he's actually pretty effective at dealing with the press, if we haven't seen that from the course of this campaign.

00:47:19.000 Well, and let's face it, there are just far more important questions before the American people about what, other than whether Donald Trump, you know, essentially acted as his own PR agent 20 years ago on a personal matter.

00:47:32.000 I just don't understand the relevance.

00:47:33.000 Okay, so we can cut it off there, but the best part of that was where Roger Stone suggests that Donald Trump acting as his own PR agent to talk about who he's schtupping this week is the same as James Madison and Alexander Hamilton using pen names to write about

00:47:46.000 The Federalist Paper is about the Constitution.

00:47:48.000 Yes, it's exactly the same thing. 1.00

00:47:50.000 You have to be fully stupid to believe this. 1.00

00:47:52.000 But I guess, honest to God, you kind of have to be fully stupid to believe that either one of these people is going to be a great president in any way, shape, or form. 1.00

00:48:00.000 But we'll be back tomorrow to cover more of the unfolding circus as it unfolds before us with laughter in our hearts and tears in our eyes. 0.97

00:48:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:48:08.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - May 17, 2016

Ep. 119 - How The Media Destroyed Hillary Clinton

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