The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 123 - The Trolls Of The Left Have Destroyed America

00:00:00.000 Leftists love to play the I-can't-believe-you're-even-upset-about-this-game.

00:00:04.000 Here are the rules. 1.00

00:00:05.000 Leftists say or do something totally outrageous and stupid. 1.00

00:00:08.000 For example, they say men should be able to use women's restrooms. 1.00

00:00:11.000 Or maybe they say that kids should be forced to learn about homosexuality in public schools. 0.99

00:00:15.000 Conservatives then respond by saying this stuff is insane, what are you people out of your minds, what the hell is wrong with you? 0.94

00:00:20.000 Leftists then feign horror that Republicans should be so upset about these issues.

00:00:25.000 Why are they so upset?

00:00:26.000 Why can't you just be tolerant?

00:00:27.000 Conservatives are just so angry all the time!

00:00:30.000 Yeah, we're a little pissed.

00:00:31.000 We're pissed that you can't leave characters that we already know and love alone. 1.00

00:00:35.000 We're pissed that you won't leave us alone to make your own icons, you jerks. 0.99

00:00:39.000 Today's episode of I Can't Believe You're Even Upset About This comes courtesy of Hollywood. 0.99

00:00:43.000 On Twitter, the hashtag GiveCaptainAmericaABoyfriend is trending.

00:00:47.000 This is master-level trolling by leftists. 0.69

00:00:50.000 They want to take an iconic American comic book character, originally directed at children and teens, and make him a homosexual.

00:00:55.000 Moreover, they want to make that character, who's supposed to be an embodiment of 1940's traditional morality and masculinity, an advocate for 2016 leftist social values.

00:01:06.000 So Captain America, for people who don't read comic books, he was encased in ice while fighting against Hitler.

00:01:10.000 He's released from the ice like Rip Van Winkle decades later, and his old-fashioned love of America and belief in traditional moral values makes him an anachronism.

00:01:18.000 That's why he's an interesting character.

00:01:20.000 He's described in some of the later-day comics and the ones they do now as sort of John McCain in a 30-year-old body.

00:01:26.000 Now, the left wants Captain America to stop fighting fascism.

00:01:29.000 Instead, they want him fighting to protect the world from Christian bakers. 1.00

00:01:33.000 The left knows Captain America is iconic to three generations of Americans, and so they're looking to troll the right by conflating his American flag shield with the rainbow flag.

00:01:42.000 And if conservatives say Captain America's traditional mission and personality, which, by the way, includes protecting traditional families and his own traditional love interests, who have always been women, if they believe that's skewed by turning him into a parochial champion for gay rights,

00:01:56.000 Then we're the bigots, right? 0.94

00:01:56.000 We're crazy. 0.94

00:01:57.000 The left wants to simultaneously claim that being gay changes nothing about a character, but that it's desperately important for characters to be gay. 0.95

00:02:04.000 And they hijack already popular characters to do it, instead of inventing new characters.

00:02:09.000 Nobody cares.

00:02:10.000 Conservatives don't care that they made Iceman from the X-Men gay.

00:02:13.000 But people have a right to expect that the characters with whom they've identified for the last 60 years ought not be changed at the whim of the left.

00:02:20.000 According to the left, however, popular characters can be shifted just on a dime. 0.85

00:02:24.000 Leftists will trot out the actor who plays Chris Evans, who, by the way, hates me, to say that it wouldn't matter if Captain America were gay. 0.84

00:02:30.000 That would be awesome. 0.76

00:02:31.000 They already did that with Mark Hamill and Luke Skywalker, which, by the way, would make his original love triangle with Han Solo and Princess Leia even weirder than it already was, and it already included incest.

00:02:40.000 Leftists are now calling for Gillian Anderson to be cast as James Bond.

00:02:44.000 Yes, a chick to be cast as James Bond.

00:02:46.000 Which makes zero sense, given that Bond's entire M.O. 0.87

00:02:49.000 is that he's an ultra-masculine womanizer. 0.99

00:02:51.000 A woman picking up and having promiscuous sex with sophisticated men isn't a spy superhero. 1.00

00:02:56.000 That's a normal Tuesday night in a dive bar. 0.93

00:02:58.000 The roguish charm of Bond relies on the differences between the sexes. 0.70

00:03:02.000 That Bond is a seducer, right?

00:03:03.000 He's seducing women, which is actually conquering, right? 1.00

00:03:06.000 But he's counterintuitively also a man of honor.

00:03:08.000 That conflict doesn't exist for women. 1.00

00:03:10.000 It ain't hard for a woman to conquer a man. 1.00

00:03:11.000 All she has to do is give him a time and a place.

00:03:13.000 When it comes to pop culture, the left cheats.

00:03:16.000 They can't invent a gay Captain United States or a female Jane Bond because those characters wouldn't be as popular as Captain America or James Bond.

00:03:24.000 So instead, they'll try to steal those characters and twist them to fit their agenda.

00:03:27.000 That's annoying.

00:03:28.000 It's actually a betrayal of both the characters and the audience.

00:03:31.000 Listen, we didn't buy the Captain America tickets because we wanted to see him make love to Bucky.

00:03:36.000 And we didn't buy James Bond because we want to see some sort of metaphor about female empowerment.

00:03:40.000 It's boring. 0.99

00:03:41.000 But the left won't stop, and they won't stop complaining if anybody challenges their stupid, irritating, immoral attempts to destroy the characters we once loved. 1.00

00:03:50.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, this is The Ben Shapiro Show. 0.99

00:03:58.000 So, I have a new theory about America, and that is that we have now been trolled into absolute insanity.

00:04:02.000 We've just been trolled into insanity, we've lost our minds because the left has lost their mind.

00:04:07.000 And just a quick further note on Captain America, there's nothing wrong with saying that Captain America, who's supposed to be a traditional representation of masculinity, 0.98

00:04:14.000 Yes, it changes the representation of masculinity if the guy is gay. 0.88

00:04:18.000 Because part of masculinity is the idea that you're going to father children and that you're going to protect those children and protect women.

00:04:24.000 It turns out men don't need other men to protect them as a general rule.

00:04:28.000 Women do. 1.00

00:04:29.000 This is because women have less upper body strength, gang. 1.00

00:04:31.000 It's because they're genetically different from men.

00:04:33.000 Caitlyn Jenner is not a woman. 1.00

00:04:35.000 When a man protects another man, it's not the same thing as a man protecting a woman.

00:04:39.000 Everybody knows that.

00:04:40.000 And that's why so many traditional heroes are straight, right?

00:04:43.000 Because the idea is a man saving a woman is something that actually happens in real life.

00:04:47.000 That's actually something that's necessary in real life.

00:04:49.000 Go to countries where men don't protect women and see how well the women there do. 0.98

00:04:54.000 Freedom is based on the notion that men are honorable, protect women, make children with women that they love and who love them in consensual fashion, and then protect those kids.

00:05:02.000 That's what civilization is based on.

00:05:04.000 So yes, that's a slightly more important story to Western civilization and to individuals than a dude having sex with another dude.

00:05:12.000 So yes, it makes a difference to character and character development.

00:05:15.000 What kind of masculinity you're attempting to portray.

00:05:18.000 And the same thing is true in the Bond context.

00:05:19.000 I mean, the idea that you're gonna make a female James Bond, it doesn't work on any level.

00:05:23.000 On any level it doesn't work.

00:05:24.000 Because the whole point of Bond is that he's seducing these random beautiful women, and as I said earlier, a woman seducing a bunch of guys, you could be Meghan Trainor and seduce a bunch of guys, right?

00:05:34.000 I mean, as Amy Schumer is fond of saying, it isn't hard for a lady to catch a bleep. 0.99

00:05:38.000 Right?

00:05:38.000 It ain't that tough.

00:05:39.000 The idea with Bond is that, who is this studdish guy that he can get all these beautiful women?

00:05:43.000 Nobody's ever asked a beautiful woman, how is it that she can get all these studdish guys? 1.00

00:05:48.000 I wonder.

00:05:48.000 Really, it's a toughie.

00:05:49.000 Okay.

00:05:50.000 So, here's the thing. 0.53

00:05:51.000 The left has made everybody so nuts with their crazy trolling, that we end up 0.84

00:05:55.000 With just a crazy politics. 0.81

00:05:57.000 We've all lost our minds.

00:05:57.000 I think the greatest success of President Obama and the modern left is that the right absolutely went bonkers.

00:06:03.000 And so now we have a bonkers left and a bonkers right fighting with each other for bonkers America.

00:06:07.000 And the sad part about all of this is that normally when empires destroy themselves, normally when great civilizations destroy themselves, it's because we reached a low point.

00:06:16.000 All the troubles America's had in the past are actual troubles.

00:06:19.000 Like for example, slavery, a trouble.

00:06:21.000 We had a civil war.

00:06:23.000 Right?

00:06:23.000 World War II.

00:06:24.000 A Trouble.

00:06:25.000 We had a giant world war.

00:06:26.000 Today, which bathroom should we use? 0.97

00:06:29.000 Let's have a huge war and fight each other and destroy each other and destroy the country and kill all the things the country's founded on because we need Caitlyn Jenner to be able to whip it out in a ladies room. 1.00

00:06:37.000 Okay, this is how you know we've gone nuts, is that there's not even an underlying conflict that's so grave that it requires this kind of insanity and anger and rage, but that's where we're going anyway. 0.98

00:06:47.000 Anyway,

00:06:48.000 So, speaking of the trolling, the latest element of the trolling, we're going to show you the left's trolling.

00:06:53.000 And the left's trolling is what has created our crazy politics.

00:06:56.000 So, let's start with yesterday.

00:06:58.000 Yesterday, there was an officer named Officer Nero.

00:07:00.000 He's one of these officers in Baltimore who was arraigned by the politically motivated prosecutor.

00:07:07.000 And brought up on charges in the death of Freddie Gray.

00:07:09.000 Freddie Gray was a 26-year-old career criminal.

00:07:11.000 He was arrested after he was carrying an illegal knife and ran from police.

00:07:15.000 He was put into the back of a police van.

00:07:17.000 He was not buckled in.

00:07:18.000 He was handcuffed, but he was not buckled in.

00:07:20.000 Apparently, then in the back of the van, he was sort of banging on the back of the van, and they stopped suddenly, and he fell over, and he...

00:07:28.000 The momentum of the stop pushed his head up against the back of the van and he broke his neck.

00:07:34.000 He ends up dying from that a little bit later.

00:07:36.000 And so they tried to try the cops.

00:07:38.000 They tried to claim that the cops originally... First, they tried to claim that they murdered him.

00:07:41.000 They tried to claim that they brought him into custody and just murdered this guy for no reason. 0.97

00:07:44.000 By the way, most of the cops are black.

00:07:46.000 They then tried to claim that it was purposeful negligence, that it was manslaughter, that they didn't care if this guy got killed and that's why they didn't buckle him in. 0.96

00:07:55.000 In reality, the new orders

00:07:58.000 Excuse me, that you were supposed to buckle in prisoners.

00:08:00.000 That only changed about a week prior to the actual incident.

00:08:05.000 So this officer was acquitted.

00:08:06.000 They said it's clear he didn't mean to kill Freddie Gray.

00:08:08.000 No one meant to kill Freddie Gray.

00:08:09.000 It's a terrible accident.

00:08:10.000 It's really bad that it happened.

00:08:12.000 But that doesn't mean that they purposefully pushed him down in the van and then rammed his head against the back of it.

00:08:16.000 Or that they didn't buckle him up knowing that he was going to break his neck.

00:08:19.000 I mean, honestly, if we're going to prosecute everybody in America who doesn't buckle up and then somebody gets killed, you're going to be prosecuting an awful lot of people.

00:08:25.000 It turns out that most people who don't buckle up, it's because they forget and they're in an older car that doesn't have the beep beep in this particular car.

00:08:32.000 You know, it's in the back of the van.

00:08:33.000 They don't have that system.

00:08:34.000 In any case, Megyn Kelly had on Black Lives Matter leader DeRay McKesson. 1.00

00:08:38.000 DeRay McKesson is a troll. 0.98

00:08:40.000 When you talk about trolling, Deray McKesson is a troll. 0.99

00:08:42.000 He's a guy who's had no career at all. 0.56

00:08:44.000 He became prominent in Ferguson when he started tweeting about all of the evil, terrible things white people were doing in Ferguson, and the federal authorities, and the state authorities, and the police.

00:08:53.000 And he became very prominent because he was tweeting a lot, and he gave up his regular job to become a full-time troll and wear Marty McFly's vest from Back to the Future, except in blue.

00:09:03.000 And he always wears this.

00:09:04.000 He always wears the thing where it looks like he jumped ship, like in Back to the Future.

00:09:07.000 Uh, and, and DeRay McKesson is now a national figure.

00:09:10.000 It's funny because he ran for mayor of Baltimore this year.

00:09:13.000 He won less than zero votes.

00:09:14.000 People who were not yet born voted against him.

00:09:16.000 He, he, he drew I think it was 1% of the vote in Baltimore, which is where he's supposed to be popular.

00:09:21.000 So he's on TV and he, and Megyn Kelly's talking to him.

00:09:24.000 Listen to the level of delusion for DeRay McKesson and then you wonder why people are going nuts?

00:09:28.000 This is why people are going nuts.

00:09:30.000 Right, and who caused it and how remains to be seen, but you're... And that's what I'm saying.

00:09:33.000 You're positing to the audience that these cops did it, and I'm telling the audience thus far the evidence doesn't support that.

00:09:39.000 What I'm saying is that there's one trial, so you don't know what the evidence in the other five cases, and neither do I, and that's why I'm excited to follow through these cases.

00:09:46.000 Well, I know one guy was tried by a jury, and it was a hung jury, so they were not able to conclude his guilt.

00:09:50.000 Yeah, which again is not an acquittal, right?

00:09:51.000 And then the next case that was tried by an African-American judge concluded that there was no case against this officer, and he was just acquitted on all charges.

00:09:58.000 So we are looking forward to the next five, and that's important.

00:10:00.000 We'll see the next five, you know, in the state of... But even now that you have a not guilty verdict against Officer Nero, you continue to tell this audience that he did something wrong.

00:10:07.000 No, what I continue to say is that I'm looking forward to the administrative review and that we do need to take a holistic look at the laws in the state of Maryland.

00:10:13.000 What did he do, DeRay?

00:10:16.000 In Maryland, in Baltimore City, it is okay for officers to hogtie and chokehold citizens.

00:10:20.000 We don't think that that is okay.

00:10:22.000 That's a separate thing.

00:10:23.000 Okay, so you look at that, but what did Officer Nero do?

00:10:26.000 So, I've already said this to you, Megan, is that this officer was involved in this case, and what it says, what the judge said, is that the officer was not criminally responsible, and this means that we need to continue the fight to make sure that the laws hold officers accountable.

00:10:39.000 He had no responsibility as noted in the judge's decision today to intervene when he saw others misbehaving, and that is important.

00:10:46.000 We should push for policy.

00:10:47.000 No, that's not what the judge concluded.

00:10:48.000 He did not conclude that anybody had misbehaved.

00:10:50.000 No, he didn't.

00:10:51.000 Thank you for being here.

00:10:52.000 I gotta go.

00:10:53.000 Okay, and Megyn Kelly is totally right.

00:10:54.000 If you read what the judge said, he didn't say that.

00:10:56.000 He didn't say there was wrongdoing, but the law just can't hold this guy responsible.

00:11:00.000 What he found is that there's no evidence that anybody had done anything wrong.

00:11:03.000 That this was an accident.

00:11:04.000 Accidents are bad.

00:11:05.000 Tough.

00:11:06.000 You know, that's sad, but that's life.

00:11:09.000 And Freddie Gray, by the way, did resist arrest, and Freddie Gray had a long criminal record, which doesn't mean it's good that he got killed, but this idea that they just hogtied an innocent guy and then basically beat him to death, which was the original narrative, that isn't true, but it doesn't matter, right?

00:11:22.000 Facts, when conflicting with the left, they don't matter.

00:11:24.000 Deray McKesson says this guy basically should have been prosecuted anyway, even though he can't name a single shred of evidence that the guy did anything bad.

00:11:32.000 So there's that, right?

00:11:32.000 And then more trolls.

00:11:34.000 So there's this professor who is on MSNBC Live, and he's a Morgan State University assistant professor, Dr. Lawrence Brown, and he's talking about the same Baltimore case.

00:11:43.000 Listen to what he has to say about policing in the United States.

00:11:46.000 You mentioned that there was an African-American judge.

00:11:48.000 We have a black mayor.

00:11:49.000 We had a black policeman. 0.89

00:11:51.000 But, you know, American policing was founded on slave patrols.

00:11:55.000 This system of policing has been always exacting disproportionate violence against African-Americans throughout the history of this country.

00:12:04.000 So I don't think that, you know, people here who are living in the communities where there's a high level of police aggression, a high level of police brutality,

00:12:14.000 We're good to go.

00:12:31.000 This is not case stuff.

00:12:42.000 So the police in Baltimore, who by the way are majority black, there was a black police chief, a black prosecutor, a black mayor, a black attorney general, a black president of the United States, a majority black city, and a majority black city council.

00:12:53.000 All of that is because originally policing was slave patrols.

00:12:57.000 Okay, I'm not sure if this professor is aware of it, but police existed in the North, too.

00:13:02.000 It turns out that police have existed all across Western civilization for literally more than a millennium, right?

00:13:08.000 So this idea that there were no police, it's nonsense.

00:13:11.000 But again, he's just throwing out terms like, we need to fix the criminal justice system.

00:13:15.000 To do what?

00:13:16.000 To do what?

00:13:16.000 What happened here that was so egregious in the criminal justice system?

00:13:19.000 Right?

00:13:20.000 What happened here that was so terrible?

00:13:21.000 And so you watch this and you just get mad because he's not speaking the language of reality.

00:13:26.000 This is crazy.

00:13:26.000 We're being gaslit.

00:13:28.000 Again, not a single shred of evidence.

00:13:29.000 This officer should have been convicted, but he wasn't.

00:13:31.000 And so they want to string this guy up.

00:13:33.000 They want to lynch this guy because he is a bad guy and he therefore deserves it because he's a cop. 0.96

00:13:38.000 And when he complains about policing in the inner city in Baltimore, again, majority police force that is black in Baltimore. 0.95

00:13:45.000 The people in Baltimore need more policing, not less policing. 0.93

00:13:47.000 There are too many criminals in Baltimore.

00:13:49.000 So the trolling continues.

00:13:50.000 And then, there's more trolling from the left.

00:13:52.000 So it's just, they're full-time trolls.

00:13:53.000 They live under a bridge, and they rob the travelers of their money. 0.97

00:13:56.000 They're full-time trolls. 0.76

00:13:57.000 David Gergen on CNN, who's a big fan of the Clintons. 0.85

00:14:02.000 David Gergen from CNN, he was speaking about the North Carolina bathroom law, for example.

00:14:07.000 And here he's talking about the North Carolina bathroom law that says that men should be able to whip it out in front of little girls in the bathroom.

00:14:13.000 But the signals coming out of the state capitol in Raleigh have sent a thunderous message rolling out across America.

00:14:20.000 That North Carolina is no longer a pioneer in advancing people of color, people who are gay, people who are living on the margins. 0.97

00:14:28.000 Instead, many here want to go back, far back to a darker time.

00:14:34.000 This is not the place to relitigate each and every issue.

00:14:38.000 But what other message did state legislators think they were sending?

00:14:43.000 What did they intend when they seriously restricted access to voting?

00:14:47.000 Embrace the constitutional amendment to deny equal rights to gays and lesbians. 1.00

00:14:51.000 Place more restrictions on abortion.

00:14:53.000 Enacted a flatter tax imposing heavier... Okay, so now he's listing off a bunch of things he doesn't like and he's saying that these are the same thing as not letting men into little girls bathrooms.

00:15:02.000 Right, so you're looking at this and you're going, you're out of your mind.

00:15:05.000 These people are out of their mind.

00:15:07.000 And then just to put the cap on it, Joy Behar, who is just, oh my god.

00:15:13.000 I mean, it's like God took all the annoying, he took all the contents of the annoying jar and poured them into one human.

00:15:18.000 Joy Behar on The View, she's making the case here that abortion is an affirmative good. 0.97

00:15:23.000 So, again, the trolling is just out of control.

00:15:25.000 The left has become more and more troll-y.

00:15:26.000 Back in the 1990s, they used to claim that they didn't like abortion, they wanted it safe, legal, and rare.

00:15:31.000 That was an incoherent position, but at least it wasn't openly trolling.

00:15:34.000 Joy Behar says that she loves abortion.

00:15:36.000 Abortion is an affirmative good.

00:15:38.000 In terms of an abortion, certainly it's a woman's decision to make without consulting her husband. 0.98

00:15:43.000 That's the law.

00:15:44.000 I disagree with that.

00:15:48.000 You can disagree, but I'm telling you, if it was me and I wanted to do it, I don't care who tells me what to do.

00:15:54.000 It's my body, I do what I want.

00:15:56.000 It's your body, but it's also your spouse's child.

00:16:02.000 So do not take that into consideration that it's your spouse's child as well.

00:16:06.000 It's my body.

00:16:07.000 It's your spouse's child. 0.84

00:16:09.000 You don't take that into consideration at all.

00:16:14.000 It's your body with a child inside of it.

00:16:16.000 As far as a vasectomy, if I wanted to get my tubes tied, and I had a few kids already, and he's like, no, let's just have sex, I don't want to use a condom, I'd get the tubes tied and not tell him that either.

00:16:26.000 Without having the discussion?

00:16:27.000 It's my tubes!

00:16:28.000 They're my tubes!

00:16:31.000 Okay, and this kind of stuff, you look at this and you're like, you're missing the entire point of the conversation.

00:16:37.000 We're not talking about your tubes.

00:16:38.000 We're not talking about your appendix.

00:16:40.000 No one cares.

00:16:41.000 We're talking about the baby that's inside there, and you just ignore the entire point.

00:16:44.000 And you've got all these other women there, including people who are conservative, supposedly. 1.00

00:16:47.000 I think it's Nicole Wallace over on the right, I think, and Jedediah Bila in the center.

00:16:51.000 And they're both just going along with this to the extent that they're saying, well, you know, shouldn't you at least consult your husband?

00:16:56.000 Because it's his child too.

00:16:58.000 That's not the question.

00:16:59.000 The question is, is it a child?

00:17:01.000 If it's a child, then you don't get to just sit there singing, it's my body.

00:17:06.000 It isn't your body.

00:17:07.000 It isn't your body.

00:17:08.000 It's another body.

00:17:09.000 It's another person's body. 0.72

00:17:11.000 But, so this trolling makes people insane. 0.74

00:17:14.000 So the trolling makes people insane.

00:17:15.000 And it leads people to the conclusion that no matter what, these people have to be stopped.

00:17:19.000 And I understand this.

00:17:20.000 I get it.

00:17:21.000 I so get it.

00:17:21.000 I really do.

00:17:22.000 Believe me, I've spent my entire life fighting harder than you, fighting harder than the Trump people.

00:17:26.000 The Trump people were giving money to these people.

00:17:28.000 Donald Trump gave money to these people.

00:17:30.000 Okay?

00:17:31.000 I've spent my entire life fighting the left.

00:17:33.000 My entire life fighting them.

00:17:35.000 And yet we're now being told that if we refuse to stand up for Trump, then we're doing something deeply wrong.

00:17:41.000 We're doing something terribly wrong.

00:17:42.000 Dennis Prager, I keep mentioning him because I have so much respect for Dennis Prager as a moral voice.

00:17:46.000 Dennis Prager has a column today talking about his response to his conservative Never Trump friends.

00:17:51.000 He mentions me by name as well as a couple other people like Jonah Goldberg and Bill Kristol and Bret Stephens and George Will and basically what he says in the end.

00:17:59.000 And what he basically says is, I could not live with my conscience if I voted to help the America-destroying left win the presidency in any way.

00:18:06.000 I don't understand how anyone who understands the threat the left and the Democrats pose to America will refuse to vote for the only person who can stop them.

00:18:13.000 Right?

00:18:13.000 Only Trump can stop the left right now, and therefore you don't have a choice but to vote for him.

00:18:18.000 Okay.

00:18:19.000 Totally get this argument.

00:18:20.000 Totally understand the logic.

00:18:21.000 Totally understand the emotion.

00:18:23.000 And I will say this.

00:18:24.000 I think, and I've said this many times, I don't know how many times I have to say it, but I've said this many, many times.

00:18:29.000 I fully understand and I sympathize with the position.

00:18:32.000 I disagree with the risk calculation, but I sympathize with the position.

00:18:35.000 Donald Trump's a horror show.

00:18:37.000 He'll be better than Hillary. 0.59

00:18:38.000 I understand that.

00:18:39.000 And if you're an honest person who believes this, then when somebody says, Donald Trump's a horror show, your answer should not be, no, Donald Trump isn't a horror show. 0.95

00:18:47.000 Your answer should be, yes, and Hillary is a worse horror show. 1.00

00:18:51.000 Right?

00:18:51.000 And that's perfectly acceptable.

00:18:53.000 When Donald Trump does something wrong, you call it like you see it, but you say he's still better than Hillary.

00:18:57.000 I get it.

00:18:57.000 That's fine.

00:18:58.000 What I'm beginning to see in the movement, and this is the trouble, right?

00:19:01.000 This is where I say that conservatism is now being perverted.

00:19:04.000 That conservatism is being taken over by Trump?

00:19:06.000 That the body snatchers have arrived?

00:19:08.000 It's people who are moral voices not saying, yes, Trump is a horror show, but he's better than Hillary.

00:19:13.000 I'm seeing people say, well, Trump isn't so bad.

00:19:16.000 Well, Trump isn't so bad.

00:19:17.000 And when you make accusations against him, when you say negative stuff about him, it's just not true.

00:19:21.000 We'll just ignore it.

00:19:22.000 We'll pretend it doesn't exist.

00:19:24.000 There's a tendency for every human being, all human beings, there's a real tendency to just get rid of difficult moral conflict by making the other side of the moral conflict disappear.

00:19:35.000 So if you're trying, if you're a leftist, and you're trying to say Syrian Muslim refugees should enter the United States, and somebody says those people are a security risk,

00:19:42.000 Well, then the easy thing to do is say, well, no, they're not a security risk.

00:19:45.000 They're not a security risk at all.

00:19:46.000 Let them all in.

00:19:47.000 That would be ignoring the problem and pretending that something doesn't exist that exists.

00:19:51.000 I'm seeing the same thing happen with people who want Trump to be elected because it's very difficult to live with the psychological dissonance of saying Donald Trump is a bad man who will do bad things, but he's better than the other person.

00:20:02.000 That's hard to live with.

00:20:03.000 So instead, what people are beginning to do is advocate for Trump.

00:20:06.000 There's a difference between I'll advocate against Hillary and therefore vote Trump.

00:20:10.000 I'll vote Trump to stop Hillary. 1.00

00:20:12.000 And I want Donald Trump to be president.

00:20:14.000 Those are actually two different propositions.

00:20:16.000 People are identifying these two things.

00:20:17.000 When people make the, I'll vote for Stalin to stop Hitler argument, when they make that argument, understand that when we allied with Stalin to stop Hitler, we were still fighting Stalin.

00:20:27.000 During World War II, we were still fighting Stalin.

00:20:29.000 There's an actual competition for territory that we were going to control in the aftermath of World War II, in the middle of World War II.

00:20:36.000 This is why there was a race to Berlin.

00:20:38.000 Right?

00:20:38.000 The reason there is, why not just let the Russians do it?

00:20:40.000 They could have sacrificed their lives.

00:20:41.000 The reason is, we didn't want the Russians taking over Western Europe. 1.00

00:20:44.000 So there was a competition even then.

00:20:46.000 This would be more like the equivalent, if you're arguing in favor of Trump as president, not against Hillary as president, so we have to use Trump because he's our only vehicle, but in favor of Trump as president, you're now arguing that we should have made Stalin president to stop Hitler.

00:20:58.000 Not that we should have allied with Stalin to stop Hitler, but that we should have given him ultimate power. 0.96

00:21:02.000 And I have to say, I think a lot of the people who are against, who are yelling at those of us who are critical of Donald Trump,

00:21:09.000 Understand something.

00:21:10.000 We're the only thing that's leading Donald Trump to even pretend to care about you.

00:21:14.000 We're the only reason Trump is even pretending to care about conservatives.

00:21:18.000 Because he's trying to consolidate us behind him, and so he's making overtures to the conservative movement.

00:21:23.000 You guys already sold out.

00:21:24.000 You guys already said, we're on board with Trump.

00:21:26.000 Once Trump has you on board, you're in the car, he locked the doors, there's no escape.

00:21:31.000 Right, the fact is that we're the ones outside the car saying we're not getting in the car unless you pledge to do X, Y, and Z. So even if you disagree with us, you should be thanking us for pushing Donald Trump to the right.

00:21:41.000 Okay, all of that said...

00:21:42.000 I said that the trolling has driven Americans nuts, particularly people on the right.

00:21:47.000 We've now gone full on, okay, well they're disconnected from reality, fine, screw it, we'll be disconnected from reality too.

00:21:53.000 So Donald Trump is now coming out and he is attacking the Clintons, not on the basis of real things, he's now attacking the Clintons

00:22:02.000 On the basis of Vince Foster.

00:22:04.000 Okay, he's on the basis of Vince Foster.

00:22:05.000 Now, for those of you who don't remember the 90s, and I know I have a lot of listeners who are younger even than I am, I was only 16 when the 90s ended.

00:22:13.000 So, yeah, I understand.

00:22:14.000 For those who don't remember, okay, Vince Foster was the Deputy White House Chief, Deputy White House Counsel under the Clintons.

00:22:20.000 He was found dead in 1993 in Fort Marcy Park.

00:22:23.000 He'd shot himself in the head.

00:22:25.000 There are a lot of people, conspiracy theorists, who suggested that he had not killed himself, that in fact the Clintons had killed him.

00:22:32.000 The Clintons had taken him out and they had killed him because he was involved in Whitewater.

00:22:35.000 Whitewater was a scandal about a corrupt real estate deal in Arkansas involving Hillary Clinton's Rose law firm and her husband, the governor of Arkansas. 0.60

00:22:45.000 Well, now we have Donald Trump and Donald Trump has come out and he is trying to dredge up this Vince Foster routine in order to attack Hillary Clinton.

00:22:56.000 And his bizarre kind of line of attack here, his basic argument, is that the Clintons

00:23:04.000 Probably killed Vince Foster.

00:23:06.000 He's not gonna say so, but the Clintons killed Vince Foster.

00:23:09.000 And the way that he puts it is so typically Trumpian.

00:23:12.000 It's just, it's typical Trump.

00:23:13.000 Because Trump is a conspiracy theorist, but he never wants to own his conspiracy theories.

00:23:16.000 He always kind of wants to just put it out there.

00:23:18.000 So, I mean, Donald Trump is a, he's a Breitbart comment troll, right?

00:23:22.000 And we've decided to elect him president. 0.94

00:23:24.000 Because, again, you want to elect a Breitbart comment troll president to stop Hillary? 1.00

00:23:27.000 I get it. 0.58

00:23:27.000 Don't tell me the Breitbart comment troll is anything but a Breitbart comment troll. 0.58

00:23:31.000 When that's what he is, here's what Donald Trump said about Vince Foster.

00:23:35.000 And this is what's, it really is amazing.

00:23:38.000 So he says that the Clintons have dodged all of this.

00:23:43.000 And then he adds, let me see if I can find the direct quote, because the direct quote is just too amusing.

00:23:47.000 Let's see, here it is.

00:23:48.000 He said, quote, it's one thing with her, whether it's Whitewater or whether it's Vince or whether it's Benghazi, it's always a mess with Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:23:56.000 And then he continued by saying,

00:23:59.000 I love this one.

00:24:00.000 He said, let's see, that the theories of foul play were, quote, very serious, and the circumstances of Foster's death were very fishy.

00:24:07.000 Quote, he had intimate knowledge of what was going on, he knew everything that was going on, and then all of a sudden he committed suicide.

00:24:13.000 I don't bring Foster's, this is so, it's so Trumpian, I don't bring Foster's death up because I don't know enough to really discuss it.

00:24:20.000 I will say there are people who continue to bring it up because they think it was absolutely a murder.

00:24:24.000 I don't do that because I don't think it's fair.

00:24:28.000 Okay? 0.95

00:24:29.000 This is the equivalent of that passive-aggressive teenage girl who calls her friends and says, you know, I'm not bringing up that I think you dress like a whore because I know anything about it. 1.00

00:24:37.000 I'm just saying, people around the school, they keep saying that you dress like a whore, that you dress like a little hooker. 0.99

00:24:42.000 And, you know, I'm not going to bring that up because I think it's mean. 1.00

00:24:46.000 But, like, people are just saying you dress like a whore. 1.00

00:24:49.000 Okay, look, everybody knows the teenage girl is saying you dress like a whore, right? 0.99

00:24:52.000 I mean, so Donald Trump is accusing the Clintons of murdering Vince Foster, but no, he would never do- I've never said- and he provides himself this sort of bizarre avenue out, where if you say to him, why are you throwing out conspiracy theories about Vince Foster? 0.96

00:25:04.000 Then he says, I was just bringing it up, you know, people were saying, people, who are these people?

00:25:07.000 People, people were saying, I hear from a lot of people, a lot of people, a lot of people say this, a lot of people say this, right?

00:25:14.000 And he did this routine, if you recall, he did the same routine about Ted Cruz's dad being involved in the Kennedy assassination.

00:25:21.000 I'm not bringing it up because I think it's real, but the National Enquirer said it.

00:25:25.000 And I better tell you this, you can believe me, believe me, they don't print things that don't have any substantiation.

00:25:30.000 You know, this is Trump's routine.

00:25:32.000 So Trump is throwing out these crazy things and people on the right are saying, okay, fine, well, you know, you're trolling us, well, we'll troll you.

00:25:40.000 It's kind of funny.

00:25:41.000 I mean, honestly, it's kind of funny where we're kind of trolling, we're trolling, right?

00:25:44.000 And so Donald Trump, and we're willing to go along with it because Donald Trump also says he's going to fight dirty against the Clintons.

00:25:51.000 Now, I'll explain in a second why this is not beneficial, but here's Donald Trump explaining why he's bringing up all these old issues against the Clintons.

00:25:58.000 I understand the Clinton attack machine.

00:26:00.000 I got it.

00:26:02.000 And I think it has to be dealt with somewhat.

00:26:04.000 But I think maybe caution... Bill, I don't like doing that.

00:26:07.000 I don't like doing that, but I have no choice.

00:26:09.000 When she hits me on things, I just have no choice, so you have to do it.

00:26:13.000 It's unfair, and, you know, they're dirty players.

00:26:15.000 They've been dirty players historically, and I have to fight back the way I have to fight back.

00:26:20.000 All right.

00:26:22.000 And voters will make up their mind.

00:26:23.000 As I said, if it's in context, everybody, I think, will understand it.

00:26:28.000 But I hope you guys both just... You're right.

00:26:31.000 I mean, it should be issues, right?

00:26:32.000 You and her on the issues.

00:26:34.000 I would rather have policy and issues.

00:26:36.000 I'd much rather have policy and issues.

00:26:38.000 First of all, the idea that Donald Trump ever wants to discuss policy and issues...

00:26:45.000 Yeah, right, yeah, yeah.

00:26:46.000 I mean, the last time Donald Trump saw message discipline or issue discipline, yeah, the last time Donald Trump saw discipline is when she was whipping him at a BDSM club. 0.95

00:26:55.000 I mean, like, he's never seen discipline before, so that he wants to talk about issues is ridiculous. 0.82

00:27:00.000 But people give him the benefit of the doubt because he's attacking the Clintons. 0.87

00:27:03.000 They're trolling us.

00:27:04.000 Let's troll him right back with Trump.

00:27:05.000 This is just trollery. 0.83

00:27:06.000 It's just joyful trollery.

00:27:08.000 Here's the problem.

00:27:09.000 If you're the person in the middle, and if you're the person who's just watching this from the outside, and you're not an ardent Trump supporter, you say, okay, the Juanita Broderick stuff is kind of legit.

00:27:17.000 A woman actually accused him of rape.

00:27:19.000 They never dealt with it.

00:27:21.000 It's actually an issue.

00:27:23.000 And then he comes back with this Vince Foster stuff.

00:27:25.000 Vince Foster wrote a 27-page suicide note.

00:27:27.000 Okay, Vince Foster committed suicide because he didn't like being embroiled in this particular scandal, so he shot himself. 0.98

00:27:33.000 If you are going to be an attack dog like Trump is, and by the way, this is the part of Trump I like. 0.99

00:27:37.000 The part of Trump I like is the attack dog. 0.98

00:27:39.000 I've always liked this.

00:27:41.000 Go back, listen to the show from the very beginning. 0.68

00:27:43.000 I've always liked Donald Trump attack dog.

00:27:45.000 It's my favorite part of Donald Trump.

00:27:47.000 Here's the problem. 0.54

00:27:48.000 If you're an attack dog, if this is what you do, and one day you hit Hillary Clinton with the frying pan that is Juanita Broderick. 0.99

00:27:56.000 You hit her right in the face with the frying pan. 1.00

00:27:59.000 Okay, good. 0.95

00:28:00.000 If the next day you hit her with a rubber chicken, like Vince Foster.

00:28:03.000 You just take out a rubber chicken, you're smacking her with a rubber chicken. 0.99

00:28:05.000 People are going to assume you're a clown because you just hit her with a frying pan and now you're hitting her with a rubber chicken. 0.88

00:28:10.000 And that's sort of what I think, I think Trump is actually discrediting himself here by making attacks that are not relevant. 0.96

00:28:16.000 Just as political advice, stick to attacks that are actually stick-worthy.

00:28:20.000 Don't just throw things out there because you haven't taken the time to actually research them.

00:28:24.000 But again, trolls on the left bear trolls on the right.

00:28:27.000 And so here is a Trump staffer explaining that when Donald Trump is talking about all these scandals from the 1990s, he's actually doing the Clintons a favor.

00:28:35.000 Here is Donald Trump's surrogate, Michael Cohen.

00:28:38.000 Michael Cohen is also the guy who is called Donald Trump's patriarch.

00:28:41.000 And he's on with Chris Cuomo.

00:28:43.000 Here he is talking about how Donald Trump is actually trying to help the Clintons.

00:28:46.000 He defended Bill Clinton for years.

00:28:50.000 He said the same allegations that you guys are talking about now were a waste of time, were wrong, were hollow, that Bill Clinton was a terrific guy, that he was a great president, that the impeachment was wrong, that it was a waste of time.

00:29:03.000 And Hillary Clinton said Donald Trump was one of the smartest, best businessmen in the United States on several occasions.

00:29:09.000 Now she's attacking him on these ads. 0.99

00:29:12.000 So she's bad too.

00:29:14.000 Isn't he bad for saying that Bill Clinton is great and now going after him?

00:29:18.000 All he's doing is he's giving the facts.

00:29:20.000 He knew the facts then in the 90s when this was all happening.

00:29:23.000 He was a private citizen who was friendly with the Clintons and he was trying to protect a friend.

00:29:32.000 Now it's a different game.

00:29:34.000 It's 2016.

00:29:34.000 He's the Republican presidential nominee.

00:29:39.000 If you decide to run for office,

00:29:40.000 And people say, hey, you knew Cuomo.

00:29:42.000 Back then you used to say he's a good guy.

00:29:43.000 I will always deny that.

00:29:44.000 You say, but now I'm running against him. 0.99

00:29:46.000 Cuomo's a bum. 0.98

00:29:47.000 That makes it OK? 0.98

00:29:48.000 Absolutely.

00:29:49.000 Come on.

00:29:49.000 Because if I was telling the truth, if I was telling the truth, then it's absolutely fine.

00:29:53.000 So he was lying then.

00:29:55.000 He's not lying.

00:29:56.000 He was protecting a friend.

00:29:57.000 There's a difference.

00:29:58.000 So again, this is trollery of the highest level, right?

00:30:01.000 So we've got the trolls on the left, and now we've got Donald Trump's people out there saying, well, yeah, he was defending the Clintons from all this stuff in the 90s, but that was just as a friend.

00:30:08.000 Now he's really mad about it.

00:30:10.000 Now he's really upset about it, and he thinks it's worthwhile.

00:30:12.000 So trollery from the left brings trollery from the right, and so now we're just a nation of trolls.

00:30:16.000 That's all.

00:30:17.000 We've become the troll dolls, and we have troll doll hair candidates, and it's just, it's a disaster all the way around.

00:30:24.000 All this has also created some odd alliances, some very odd alliances.

00:30:26.000 And this is why it feels like the nuclear bomb of politics has hit, because people are finding themselves in camps with people they never wanted to be with or liked before.

00:30:35.000 So, now all of a sudden you've got Newt Gingrich, who's ripping Mitt Romney.

00:30:38.000 Newt Gingrich wants to be Donald Trump's VP.

00:30:40.000 He's ripping Mitt Romney.

00:30:41.000 And he's in the exact same camp.

00:30:43.000 He's in the exact same camp.

00:30:44.000 As Alex Jones.

00:31:15.000 Right, David Duke wasn't prominently in support of Mitt Romney.

00:31:17.000 Alex Jones wasn't prominently in support of Mitt Romney.

00:31:20.000 Right, but they are certainly in prominent support of Donald Trump.

00:31:23.000 And this is creating some very weird bedfellows.

00:31:25.000 And on the other side, we've got some weird bedfellows too.

00:31:27.000 So, you know, I'm somebody who I've said, I can't vote for Donald Trump, for all the reasons I've expressed a thousand times.

00:31:33.000 I can't vote for Donald Trump as it currently stands.

00:31:35.000 If he changes, maybe I'll change.

00:31:37.000 If there's new evidence, maybe I'll change my mind.

00:31:39.000 I've said that, and now I'm on the same side as people I can't stand, like John Huntsman.

00:31:44.000 Right, John Huntsman is saying he has concerns about Trump.

00:31:46.000 Here's the former Utah governor, speaking presumably in English, not in Mandarin Chinese, as he did in one debate.

00:31:52.000 I have said that I'd support the party's nominee, and he is our party's nominee.

00:31:58.000 And so therefore, I try to look for the good.

00:32:01.000 Certainly, I have concerns about some of the things he said, and stylistic approaches.

00:32:09.000 But then I say,

00:32:10.000 Okay, he has a unique opportunity to bring together constituencies under the Republican banner that really have never been joined before, maybe to bring back the Reagan Democrats, to bring folks into politics who have become disenfranchised and feel that the system doesn't respond to their needs anymore.

00:32:29.000 So to the extent that he can counter a mood of cynicism, you know, that's probably a healthy thing in politics.

00:32:38.000 Uh, and we'll see.

00:32:39.000 I mean, the campaign is just ramping up and he has a long way to go.

00:32:54.000 Difficult choices?

00:32:55.000 The easy thing to do is minimize the difficulty of the choice.

00:32:59.000 So on the one side, the people who support Trump, you have people minimizing the risk of Trumpism, the risk of Trump trollery and conspiracy theorizing and big government, the risk of Donald Trump telling people that they ought to hit protesters and telling people that he wants to change the First Amendment and telling people that he doesn't see any moral conflict between Israel and the Palestinians and telling people that women bleed from their wherever and telling people that it's okay to mock the disabled and POWs.

00:33:22.000 You have people minimizing all that on the one side because they like Trump and on the other side you have people like David Brooks.

00:33:27.000 David Brooks, I cannot stand David Brooks's work.

00:33:30.000 I think David Brooks is not a Republican.

00:33:32.000 I don't think he's a conservative.

00:33:33.000 I think David Brooks is just some guy who works for the New York Times who they call a conservative because they don't know what a conservative looks like if the conservative came up and punched them directly in the jaw.

00:33:44.000 So David Brooks has a column today and he's a guy who doesn't like Trump.

00:33:47.000 Like me, he's a guy who doesn't like Trump.

00:33:48.000 But I dislike Trump for good reasons.

00:33:51.000 David Brooks dislikes Trump because David Brooks is basically a Democrat.

00:33:53.000 So David Brooks comes out today and he writes a column in which he openly praises, at length, he openly praises and talks about the absolute wonders of Hillary Clinton.

00:34:05.000 He actually comes out and he praises, at length, Hillary Clinton.

00:34:09.000 And what he says about Hillary Clinton is that she is, quote-unquote, warm and caring.

00:34:12.000 This is what David Brooks says, okay, which makes him the first human being to ever say this, ever.

00:34:17.000 Right, what he actually says, this is what he writes today, he says,

00:34:27.000 Really? 0.97

00:34:27.000 I mean, she actually laughed about defending a child rapist. 0.97

00:34:32.000 She is endlessly corrupt. 1.00

00:34:34.000 I'll talk in a second about her corruption, because there's a bunch of it that's breaking in the news. 0.98

00:34:37.000 But Hillary Clinton is super-duper-duper corrupt, and David Brooks is now defending her.

00:34:42.000 So when I say that conservatism is easily corrupted, that is true from both sides. 0.97

00:34:46.000 The Trump people corrupt conservatism if they are willing

00:34:49.000 to say that Trump is a conservative and overlook all of his flaws as a human being and as a candidate just to back him.

00:34:55.000 The same thing is true on the other side if you say Trump is not a conservative because he's not Hillary Clinton.

00:35:01.000 If you say that what conservatism really is is what David Brooks thinks it is, you're destroying conservatism.

00:35:06.000 If you say conservatism really is what Donald Trump says it is, you're destroying conservatism.

00:35:10.000 Conservatism is neither of these two things.

00:35:13.000 Conservatism is the set of ideas that actually founded the country and have nothing to do with creased pants for David Brooks or strongman politics from Donald Trump.

00:35:22.000 All of this is really- I mean, look, it's difficult to talk about this stuff, and it's very disappointing to talk about this stuff.

00:35:27.000 If you don't think that there are folks like me who are de- you know, look.

00:35:31.000 Who are desperate to rah-rah our guy.

00:35:33.000 It's much more fun to be a cheerleader than it is to be somebody who goes to a game and has to critique both sides because you're trying to be honest about the principles of the game.

00:35:43.000 But I think it's important that we do that.

00:35:46.000 You can still vote for Donald Trump and critique him, by the way, as I've said.

00:35:48.000 You can still say Donald Trump is all these bad things, but at least he's not Hillary Clinton.

00:35:52.000 That's an honest argument. 0.99

00:35:54.000 I even agree with it somewhat, but you can't make the case that Donald Trump is the new face of conservatism and not say that he's not corrupting conservatism, because that's utter, sheer, ridiculous garbage. 0.75

00:36:04.000 And meanwhile, Hillary Clinton still can't, despite all the trolling from the right, Hillary Clinton is one of the left's trolls, and so she is trying desperately to claw her way back into this race, and I really think the momentum is not on her side. 0.81

00:36:17.000 Hillary Clinton is struggling to respond. 1.00

00:36:19.000 Here's Hillary Clinton going after Donald Trump, standing in front of the SEIU, which is a major American union. 0.95

00:36:24.000 What little we know of his economic policies would be running up our debt, starting trade wars, letting Wall Street run wild.

00:36:33.000 All of that could cause another crash and devastate working families and our country. 1.00

00:36:39.000 Trump economics is a recipe for lower wages, fewer jobs, more debt.

00:36:44.000 He could bankrupt America like he's bankrupted his companies.

00:36:53.000 Okay.

00:36:53.000 Weak T. I mean, ask yourself, how can anybody lose money running a casino?

00:36:59.000 Really?

00:37:01.000 Okay.

00:37:02.000 Weak T. Weak T. Because people look at Hillary and they say, you made all your money speaking in front of Goldman Sachs. 1.00

00:37:07.000 Very weak T. And speaking of corruption, you can't accuse Donald Trump of being corrupt when you're Hillary Clinton.

00:37:12.000 Everyone who has ever surrounded Hillary Clinton was probably at risk of going to jail.

00:37:17.000 The latest person who's at risk of going to jail is Terry McAuliffe.

00:37:20.000 Terry McAuliffe, he's now the governor of Virginia.

00:37:22.000 But he's a super-duper-duper corrupt fundraiser for the Clintons.

00:37:26.000 He raised $275 million for the Clintons during the 1990s.

00:37:30.000 He actually personally guaranteed the $1.35 million loan on the Chappaqua House that allowed Hillary to establish residency in New York. 0.97

00:37:38.000 He's super-duper corrupt.

00:37:39.000 And now they're investigating, the FBI is, for his time as a board member of the Clinton Global Initiative. 0.75

00:37:45.000 Right, so he may go to jail over all of this, but Hillary is supposed to be the non-corrupt candidate? 1.00

00:37:50.000 Yeah, right.

00:37:50.000 There's a reason why polls show that she's unable to rise above Trump and his trollery.

00:37:55.000 So, the trolling of America continues apace.

00:37:59.000 And it's not going to stop anytime soon.

00:38:01.000 In Things I Hate, I'll talk a little bit more about this trolling.

00:38:03.000 Because this is, the left has moved up from a party of principle to a party of trolling.

00:38:09.000 Like Bernie Sanders isn't actually, he looks like a troll, but he's not actually a troll.

00:38:13.000 Bernie Sanders actually speaks mainstream left.

00:38:17.000 He speaks hardcore left thought, right?

00:38:18.000 He actually speaks ideas. 0.67

00:38:19.000 They're really bad ideas, which is why everyone thinks they're dumb, but he speaks thought. 0.89

00:38:24.000 Most of the left is now focused on this trolling politics. 0.93

00:38:26.000 We'll get back to that in a second.

00:38:27.000 First, a quick thing that I like.

00:38:28.000 So, I decided I'm gonna do kind of children-oriented movies this week.

00:38:32.000 I can't remember whether I did this one or not.

00:38:34.000 I don't think so.

00:38:35.000 But, did I do Searching for Bobby Fischer?

00:38:37.000 Have I done Searching for Bobby Fischer before?

00:38:39.000 I don't think so.

00:38:39.000 So, it's Searching for Bobby Fischer.

00:38:41.000 It's a really, really underrated film.

00:38:42.000 This is a film from the 1990s with Ben Kingsley and Laurence Fishburne.

00:38:46.000 And it's about this kid who's a child prodigy in chess named Josh Waitzkin.

00:38:51.000 And it's a true story.

00:38:53.000 And it's about his kind of father's struggles with competition and you have to have a killer mentality.

00:38:58.000 How do you win without becoming a mean, bad person?

00:39:02.000 And it's really just a wonderful, wonderful film.

00:39:05.000 Really enjoyable.

00:39:05.000 Here's what the trailer looks like.

00:39:07.000 There are only so many things you can teach a child.

00:39:11.000 But finally, they are who they are.

00:39:15.000 I took Josh to the park today.

00:39:18.000 Yeah.

00:39:19.000 He played chess.

00:39:21.000 He doesn't know how to play chess.

00:39:22.000 He doesn't even tie his shoes.

00:39:25.000 I'm playing chess with my dad.

00:39:28.000 It's a game, like Monopoly.

00:39:30.000 In a world that thrives on competition,

00:39:34.000 Why do you want your son to play chess?

00:39:36.000 Oh, I don't.

00:39:37.000 He does.

00:39:37.000 He taught himself.

00:39:40.000 In a game where winning means the world Tell me, is the next Bobby Fisher somewhere in this room?

00:39:46.000 a challenge has begun.

00:39:48.000 Your son creates like Fisher.

00:39:50.000 He sees like him inside.

00:39:54.000 If you're playing not to lose, Josh, you've got to risk losing.

00:39:56.000 You've got to risk everything.

00:39:58.000 I was wondering if you could keep him from playing there so much.

00:40:00.000 No. 0.84

00:40:01.000 You'd kill him not to play in the park.

00:40:02.000 He loves it.

00:40:03.000 Just makes my job harder.

00:40:05.000 Then your job's harder.

00:40:06.000 Ooh, good!

00:40:07.000 Yeah, that's it!

00:40:08.000 My son has a gift.

00:40:10.000 He's better at this than I have ever been at anything in my life.

00:40:15.000 You have to have contempt for your opponents.

00:40:17.000 Because if you don't think it's a part of winning, you're wrong.

00:40:20.000 Trick or treat. 0.56

00:40:21.000 You have to hate them.

00:40:23.000 But I don't.

00:40:24.000 They hate you.

00:40:25.000 They hate you, Josh. 0.99

00:40:29.000 Get out of my house.

00:40:30.000 To put a child in a position to care about winning and not to prepare him is wrong.

00:40:35.000 The better I play, the better I have the win.

00:40:38.000 That's just the way it works.

00:40:40.000 Maybe it's better not to be the best.

00:40:44.000 It's a really good movie.

00:40:45.000 It's a really good movie and it's worth watching.

00:40:46.000 It's good for adults.

00:40:47.000 It's good for kids.

00:40:48.000 It's a really terrific movie.

00:40:49.000 Okay, things I hate.

00:40:50.000 So back to the trollery.

00:40:51.000 So Hillary Clinton is now going to meet the female Ghostbusters. 1.00

00:40:55.000 She's gonna be on Ellen.

00:40:56.000 This is just more trolling. 0.96

00:40:57.000 Female Ghostbusters is in and of itself a troll. 1.00

00:41:00.000 So I can speak objectively on this because I hate the original Ghostbusters.

00:41:04.000 I'm one of the five people in America who thinks it's a terrible movie.

00:41:07.000 Um, and I can't understand for the life of me why people are so worshipful of it. 1.00

00:41:10.000 I think it's absolute garbage and tripe. 0.97

00:41:12.000 But, people love this movie. 0.99

00:41:14.000 I know Lindsay and Mathis both are about to leap the camera and strangle me to death.

00:41:20.000 But, I don't like the original Ghostbusters.

00:41:22.000 So I can speak objectively about this.

00:41:24.000 No matter how much I dislike the original Ghostbusters, there is no way it could possibly be worse.

00:41:29.000 Then the new Ghostbusters, this new all-female Ghostbusters. 0.98

00:41:32.000 This looks like this will be the worst movie ever made.

00:41:34.000 I mean, legitimately the worst movie ever made.

00:41:36.000 So here is the trailer for the new all-female Ghostbusters.

00:41:39.000 I think I've shown it before, but since I'm going to subject you to all sorts of suffering on today's show, here is the trailer for the new Ghostbusters.

00:41:46.000 It says, 30 years ago, four scientists saved New York.

00:42:01.000 This summer, a new team will answer the call.

00:42:12.000 It's a class for reparation.

00:42:14.000 It's okay, she seems peaceful.

00:42:17.000 My name is Erin Gilbert, doctor of particle physics at... That stuff went everywhere, by the way, in every crack.

00:42:28.000 Very hard to wash off.

00:42:30.000 We have dedicated our whole lives to studying the paranormal.

00:42:33.000 Now there's sightings all over the city.

00:42:37.000 There are people out there that need our help.

00:42:41.000 Paltzman, you're a brilliant engineer.

00:42:43.000 Aaron, no one's better at quantum physics than you.

00:42:48.000 We can provide a real service.

00:42:50.000 I'm joining the club.

00:42:54.000 You guys are really smart about this science stuff, but I know New York.

00:42:57.000 And I can borrow a car from my uncle.

00:43:01.000 Uh, you didn't disclose that the vehicle was gonna be a hearse.

00:43:04.000 It's a Cadillac!

00:43:07.000 Okay, this movie looks like death right on a stick.

00:43:11.000 Let's go.

00:43:12.000 Oh.

00:43:12.000 I'm sorry.

00:43:13.000 I'll let you.

00:43:14.000 Next time.

00:43:17.000 I can't take it anymore.

00:43:18.000 This looks so awful in every possible way it looks awful.

00:43:22.000 And it's specifically cast female because female empowerment! 1.00

00:43:25.000 Yay! 1.00

00:43:28.000 Okay, so you've got this garbage with, oh, female Ghostbusters. 1.00

00:43:33.000 Now we're really showing the men that we're equal to them by stealing their properties and pretending that we're as good at it as they are and being inferior. 0.95

00:43:40.000 This movie will be 78% as good as the original Ghostbusters, is apparently the theory here.

00:43:46.000 And it won't even be that.

00:43:47.000 It'll be like 30% as good, not even like the original Ghostbusters.

00:43:50.000 So, they're doing that.

00:43:51.000 So what happens?

00:43:52.000 Hillary is going to be on Ellen. 1.00

00:43:56.000 Neither one of them have been with a man in years.

00:43:58.000 Hillary is going to be on Ellen's show with the female Ghostbusters because female empowerment. 1.00

00:44:05.000 Yay! 0.99

00:44:08.000 And everybody who, and this is the left's trolling game again, anybody who's uptight about this, like, did you make a movie specifically so that we'd vote for Hillary Clinton? 1.00

00:44:15.000 Because if so, if you took an original movie that a lot of people like, and decided to make it crappy, just to make a point about how Hillary needs to be president, you're all stupid and annoying. 0.99

00:44:23.000 Right, if we say that sort of thing, oh, well you're, why are you going so crazy? 0.99

00:44:26.000 It's just women playing Ghostbusters, what, you think women can't be Ghostbusters? 1.00

00:44:28.000 I don't know, screenwriters, did you think black people can't be physicists?

00:44:32.000 Apparently you think they're only street smart subway token operators.

00:44:35.000 Right, so the whole thing is just that the left's trollery never ends, the movie looks terrible, Hillary interacting with these people like, oh, if it weren't for Hillary, we would never have had a shot in life to be successful actresses. 0.98

00:44:48.000 Because there weren't successful actresses until Hillary was presidential nominee. 1.00

00:44:51.000 Yeah, whatever.

00:44:52.000 Okay. 1.00

00:44:53.000 Stupid, stupid. 1.00

00:44:55.000 Really stupid, annoying. 1.00

00:44:56.000 Okay. 1.00

00:44:56.000 Plus, my only question, really, is if Hillary does meet the female Ghostbusters, are they going to attempt to kill or capture her? 1.00

00:45:04.000 Okay, finally, final, final point about the left's trolling. 0.96

00:45:07.000 So, the Obama, I will say this, Obama has been a transformative president because his trollery is, he's a troll master level 40 chess-playing troll.

00:45:16.000 So, here's just more evidence that Valerie Jarrett, who's his right-hand woman, she does an interview on 60 Minutes.

00:45:23.000 They profile Valerie Jarrett.

00:45:25.000 And Valerie Jarrett is sort of the brains of the operation, supposedly.

00:45:28.000 And they ask her about Obama's accomplishments.

00:45:30.000 Listen to her list of Obama's accomplishments and see if you can spot the trollery.

00:45:35.000 I keep thinking of the president's elections and those posters that said, hope, change.

00:45:42.000 And in his final year in office, where's the hope and the change?

00:45:46.000 You can't even get a Supreme Court nominee a hearing.

00:45:50.000 Well, the hope and change, Nora, doesn't come from Washington.

00:45:53.000 The hope and change comes from the American people.

00:45:56.000 And the President's still extraordinarily optimistic about the future of our country.

00:46:00.000 I mean, just look at what's happened in the last seven years.

00:46:03.000 Our unemployment rate going from 10% down to 5%, our automobile industry back, ending two wars, 20 million people with health care, many for the first time.

00:46:13.000 We have a great deal to be proud of in terms of our accomplishments.

00:46:16.000 Did you notice the massive trolling there?

00:46:18.000 So there are a couple things that are trolly, right?

00:46:19.000 I mean, first of all, there's the Obamacare stuff.

00:46:21.000 All the prices are going up.

00:46:22.000 People are losing their doctors.

00:46:24.000 Okay, but the real trolling there is ending two wars.

00:46:27.000 Ending two wars.

00:46:28.000 That's the real trollery there.

00:46:30.000 There are still people being killed in Afghanistan, gang.

00:46:33.000 73% of all casualties in Afghanistan have happened under this president.

00:46:37.000 And as far as ending the war in Iraq, yeah, that's been a real boon. 0.91

00:46:40.000 That's gone fantastically well as ISIS takes over the top half of the country, and Iran takes over the bottom half. 1.00

00:46:46.000 That's been just wonderful.

00:46:47.000 So, this is why.

00:46:48.000 People feel like they're being gaslit, they feel like they're going crazy, and so they go to the guy who says, Fine, I'll gaslit him right back!

00:46:54.000 I'll just do crazy stuff! 0.97

00:46:55.000 Look at me, I'm a clown! 0.98

00:46:56.000 Haha! 0.97

00:46:56.000 Am I funny like a clown to you? 0.97

00:46:58.000 Go get your shine box! 0.89

00:46:59.000 I mean, that's what this entire election cycle has become.

00:47:03.000 And as decent thinkers fall into the trap of supporting any of this, they're just becoming part of the troll universe. 0.51

00:47:11.000 It's a whole other universe filled with trolls. 0.92

00:47:14.000 Wonderful and colorful trolls, but trolls nonetheless.

00:47:17.000 And we'll be back to cover all of the trollery and all of the fun and all of the horror and the zombie apocalypse that is sure to follow.

00:47:23.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:47:24.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - May 24, 2016

Ep. 123 - The Trolls Of The Left Have Destroyed America

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