The Ben Shapiro Show

00:00:00.000 On Monday, Bloomberg reported that Facebook and Twitter and Microsoft have now decided to comply with the European Union's desire to crack down on terrorist communications.

00:00:10.000 They vowed to proactively shut down so-called hate speech.

00:00:12.000 Here's the report.

00:00:16.000 There's a need to ensure such activity by internet users is expeditiously reviewed by online intermediaries and social media platforms upon receipt of a valid notification in an appropriate time frame, the companies and the European Commission said in a joint statement on Tuesday.

00:00:32.000 Twitter's head of public policy for Europe, Karen White, said we remain committed to letting the tweets flow.

00:00:36.000 However, there is a clear distinction between freedom of expression and conduct that incites violence and hate.

00:00:42.000 Now, first things first.

00:00:43.000 These are private companies.

00:00:44.000 They have the right to decide in the marketplace what sort of speech they wish to provide a forum.

00:00:49.000 That said, they don't have a right to commit fraud.

00:00:52.000 They can't tell people that they're for free speech and then reverse themselves by following certain politically correct rules about speech.

00:00:58.000 The distinction between, quote, freedom of expression and conduct that incites violence and hate is not as clear as White wants to make it.

00:01:04.000 For example, a French Jewish group sued Facebook, Twitter, and Google and did so after notifying them about hate speech that they said promoted racism, homophobia, or anti-Semitism.

00:01:15.000 And this begs two questions.

00:01:17.000 First, who sets the standard of what promotes racism, homophobia, or antisemitism?

00:01:21.000 Second, does all such speech actually constitute a threat to anyone?

00:01:26.000 The use of the term hate speech tends to gloss over these very serious questions.

00:01:30.000 Monica Bickert, who runs global policy management at Facebook, she said,

00:01:33.000 There's no place for hate speech on Facebook, but is it hate speech to cite Leviticus 18.22 about homosexuality?

00:01:39.000 Is it hate speech to say that Michael Brown, who was shot and killed by the cops in Ferguson, was a thug?

00:01:44.000 According to the left, probably.

00:01:46.000 Is it hate speech to say that men can't become women and women can't become men?

00:01:50.000 Well, probably, according to the left.

00:01:51.000 More importantly, just because you don't like particular speech, that doesn't make the speech dangerous.

00:01:56.000 There's a lot of speech people deem hateful that doesn't cross the line between being offensive and incitement to violence.

00:02:03.000 White conflates conduct that incites violence and hate.

00:02:06.000 That's too broad.

00:02:07.000 Lots of speech incites hate, but not very much speech actually incites violence.

00:02:11.000 There's a difference between Donald Trump saying Muslims provide a unique risk to national security and ISIS giving specific orders to murder Jews.

00:02:19.000 The left's utter confidence in its own ability to distinguish between quote-unquote rightful speech and inappropriate speech for purposes of censorship should scare everybody.

00:02:27.000 Listen, I've been targeted routinely by anti-Semitic speech in recent months.

00:02:31.000 I have never called for Twitter to ban those who practice such speech.

00:02:35.000 Not only don't I even block them, I generally follow Andrew Breitbart's old strategy of retweeting all the people who do this so the world can see them in their full glory.

00:02:43.000 It's one thing for online outlets to police actual law-breaking activity.

00:02:46.000 It's another for them to pretend to represent free speech while they just curb speech they don't like.

00:02:51.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:02:52.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:03:01.000 We have returned, and as usual, every time we come back, the world is a little bit crazier.

00:03:05.000 It's like the verse from Deuteronomy.

00:03:06.000 You go to bed at night wishing it were the morning, and you wake up in the morning wishing it were night again.

00:03:10.000 Well, we thought that it was going to be crazy when we left, and now it's so crazy that Donald Trump is answering questions about gorillas.

00:03:17.000 Yes, Donald Trump is answering questions about apes.

00:03:20.000 Not because there's an uprising and not because it's Planet of the Apes and we're going to be beating our hands on the shores because the Statue of Liberty is half buried in sand.

00:03:29.000 No, he's answering questions about gorillas because the latest gorilla story that really must be told, the latest in gorilla warfare you might say,

00:03:37.000 Is over Harambee the Gorilla.

00:03:38.000 I don't know how to pronounce it.

00:03:39.000 Harambee?

00:03:40.000 Harambee?

00:03:40.000 Okay, so Harambee the Gorilla.

00:03:42.000 Why don't we start with the actual tape of it?

00:03:44.000 This is clip two.

00:03:45.000 So here's the tape of Harambee the Gorilla and what happens.

00:03:49.000 So a four-year-old boy, I've heard reports three, I've heard reports four, doesn't matter, small kid, falls into this enclosure at the Cincinnati Zoo.

00:03:55.000 Now I went to the zoo yesterday with my wife and purposefully tossed my kid in there, she was being bad, but

00:04:01.000 I didn't actually do it, but in any case, at the Cincinnati Zoo, apparently, this mother lost track of her kid for five seconds.

00:04:07.000 Anybody who's had a toddler knows there's always a moment, literally once a day at least, where you look around and you go, oh, where did the kid go?

00:04:14.000 Right?

00:04:14.000 There's always that moment where you look away for five seconds, you glance down at your phone because somebody's calling, and you look around and the kid is basically, and the kid is by the stove turning on the flame, putting their face in it.

00:04:25.000 Every single day, there's something like this.

00:04:28.000 Doesn't matter how much- I'm a real heli- like a real helicopter parent.

00:04:31.000 Doesn't matter how much of a helicopter parent you are, kids are made for getting in trouble.

00:04:35.000 So, this mother turns her back on the kid for one second, and the kid is gone.

00:04:38.000 Where'd the kid go?

00:04:39.000 The kid fell into the gorilla enclosure at the Cincinnati Zoo.

00:04:43.000 Which is funny, but not really, because it's kind of scary.

00:04:46.000 So the kid falls down, and it's apparently a 15-foot drop, and just proving that kids are bouncy, the kid doesn't get hurt.

00:04:52.000 But the kid falls down into this moat, and Harambe the gorilla decides to intervene.

00:04:57.000 And so this 450-pound gorilla

00:05:00.000 Runs over to the kid.

00:05:01.000 Now I'm going to show you the tape of what this looks like.

00:05:03.000 People keep saying it's really super graphic.

00:05:05.000 It isn't super graphic.

00:05:06.000 I mean, this tape doesn't extend to the part where they actually do what they do to the gorilla, which I'll tell you in a second.

00:05:11.000 But the gorilla goes over, and this is the tape that's making the rounds, and people are up in arms about it.

00:05:15.000 So here's what it looked like when Harambe, 17-year-old, 450-pound gorilla, goes to this 4-year-old, maybe 40-pound kid.

00:05:27.000 So, you can't see the kid.

00:05:28.000 The gorilla's standing in the corner of the enclosure.

00:05:29.000 The kid's actually behind the gorilla.

00:05:32.000 And now the gorilla moves and you're about to see the kid.

00:05:37.000 You can hear people screaming.

00:05:41.000 They're freaking out.

00:05:43.000 Okay, there's the kid.

00:05:45.000 And...

00:05:50.000 There's the gorilla dragging the kid.

00:05:53.000 I mean, that's scary stuff.

00:05:57.000 I mean, that is a tiny kid and that is a giant gorilla.

00:06:00.000 And then the gorilla's standing there again.

00:06:02.000 And it looks like the gorilla's standing there holding the hand of the kid.

00:06:06.000 The foot of the kid, more accurately, will hold the kid's foot.

00:06:11.000 And, um, turns the kid around, and they'll see if they can pick it up to the kid's feet.

00:06:18.000 And, uh, everybody's sort of standing there, and they're waiting until it happens.

00:06:22.000 When he's picking the kid up to the kid's feet, the kid stands up, and, um... And there it goes again.

00:06:32.000 You can't see what happens past that so people just waiting to subscribe so you can see what we're talking about this is one where the visual kind of is necessary so

00:06:51.000 They end up- what ends up happening is that they end up shooting and killing the gorilla.

00:06:54.000 Because the gorilla is agitated, they don't know what the gorilla is going to do, and so they shoot and they kill the gorilla.

00:06:59.000 So, number one, it's a very sad story.

00:07:01.000 I mean, the gorilla- it's not the gorilla's fault.

00:07:03.000 I mean, the gorilla is just sitting there in its own habitat, and suddenly there's a kid there and people are yelling at it.

00:07:08.000 It's a dumb animal.

00:07:08.000 I mean, it's just- it's-

00:07:10.000 You don't expect a dumb animal to know what to do with the kid.

00:07:12.000 It doesn't look like he wants to hurt the kid.

00:07:14.000 If he wants to hurt the kid, I mean, he's a 450-pound gorilla who can break a coconut with one hand, so... But, that said, you don't have a choice.

00:07:21.000 I mean, once the kid is in the enclosure and the gorilla is now next to the kid, if you hit the gorilla with a trank, then the gorilla goes nuts and kills the kid.

00:07:30.000 Maybe.

00:07:31.000 If you don't do anything, then the gorilla's standing around, and even if the gorilla doesn't mean to, the gorilla could just hold the kid underwater for a minute and kill the kid.

00:07:38.000 I've seen what could happen.

00:07:39.000 I've seen a gorilla take a green coconut that you can't even open with a sledgehammer.

00:07:43.000 I've seen him take it and squish it like a marshmallow.

00:07:45.000 Just like a marshmallow.

00:08:07.000 All you had to do was grab that child and set one hand to do so much damage, like fatality, for example, in a split second.

00:08:14.000 You don't know.

00:08:15.000 For example, if that was my kid, like those visitors, what if that was their child in there?

00:08:19.000 What would they think?

00:08:20.000 Okay, and that's exactly right.

00:08:21.000 The zoo director held a press conference, too.

00:08:23.000 Lots of people were saying, well, why was- how did this kid even get in there?

00:08:27.000 Was it an unsafe enclosure?

00:08:28.000 Okay, I can tell you, anyone who's been to the zoo knows that no enclosure is entirely safe.

00:08:33.000 It's designed to keep the animals from jumping out.

00:08:35.000 It's not designed to prevent humans from jumping in, because you have to be able to see the animals.

00:08:39.000 So unless you're going to build, like, giant glass screens around all of the cages, the reality is that you're going to be in situations where you're in close proximity with the animals.

00:08:48.000 I know you were in crisis mode at the time.

00:08:49.000 Looking back, would you make the same decision again?

00:08:50.000 Yes.

00:08:50.000 Looking back, we would make the same decision.

00:09:16.000 I know that after it is over and the child is safe, it's easy like a Monday morning quarterback to look at it and say, wow, wow, wow, don't we need to do this differently?

00:09:27.000 The people that say that, A, don't understand primate biology and silverback gorillas and the danger the child was in, and B, we're not there at an important time to make important decisions.

00:09:39.000 We stand by our decision and we make the same call today.

00:09:43.000 Okay, so that's exactly right.

00:09:45.000 Okay, so there have been a bunch of reactions to this.

00:09:47.000 First of all, this dominated the news over the weekend.

00:09:49.000 Just dominated it.

00:09:49.000 It was the only thing anyone was talking about.

00:09:51.000 Because it's a bizarre story, but more because there's a whole group of people who feel morally righteous about, oh, they shouldn't have shot the gorilla.

00:09:58.000 Katie Cuoco from Big Bang Theory, who obviously is an expert on treatment of gorillas.

00:10:04.000 She- she sounded off.

00:10:05.000 She said it's terrible they shot the gorilla.

00:10:07.000 Bunch of celebrities.

00:10:08.000 That's awful they shot- they definitely shouldn't have shot the gorilla.

00:10:11.000 Okay, anthropologists.

00:10:12.000 I'm sure that you know everything there is to know about gorilla treatment.

00:10:15.000 I'm gonna go with the people who spend their lives actually working with the gorillas.

00:10:18.000 By the way, you know who's the unhappiest person in the world about shooting that gorilla?

00:10:21.000 The zoo director!

00:10:22.000 Right, I mean, the zoo director, first of all, these things are endangered species.

00:10:26.000 He probably knew, he probably knew something, probably got to know the gorilla, so this is not like, all these people from afar going, oh, they're brutal, they shot the gorilla.

00:10:34.000 Shut up.

00:10:35.000 But beyond that, there's this tendency for people to have inordinate sympathy for animals that they don't have for human beings.

00:10:40.000 So the same people who are saying that this mother should be prosecuted for her kid falling into the enclosure, these are the same people who if the mother had just decided to kill the kid, you know, at nine months in the womb, they would be like, okay, no problem.

00:10:51.000 That's cool.

00:10:52.000 That's totally fine.

00:10:54.000 The worship of animals in our society is just another evidence that our practice of religion has gone downhill.

00:10:59.000 The notion that man is made in God's image, but animals aren't,

00:11:02.000 Right?

00:11:03.000 This sort of notion, religious notion, that separates man from the animals.

00:11:06.000 Once you wipe that away, people start looking at, okay, well, maybe the gorilla's more important than the kid.

00:11:11.000 I mean, after all, is that kid gonna grow up to cure cancer?

00:11:14.000 Is that kid gonna grow up to be anything special?

00:11:15.000 Well, if he doesn't, then look at that animal bringing so much enjoyment to people, and more than that, he has every right to live on the planet.

00:11:21.000 There's a whole wing of the far-left environmentalist movement called the Deep Greens, who really believe that man should be wiped off the planet in order to make room for all the Edenic animals that

00:11:30.000 Kill and eat each other, right?

00:11:31.000 But this is... There's a growing sentiment inside American society.

00:11:35.000 Very easy moral test for people.

00:11:36.000 If your dog and a random human were both drowning in a river, which one do you save?

00:11:40.000 A huge percentage of Americans now say they'd save the dog.

00:11:43.000 Now, there's certain people I wouldn't save because I know they're evil.

00:11:45.000 But if it's just a random person, of course you save the person!

00:11:48.000 It's not even a question you save the person.

00:11:50.000 In this case, who do you save?

00:11:51.000 The gorilla or the four-year-old?

00:11:53.000 Of course you save the four-year-old.

00:11:54.000 This is not even a question.

00:11:55.000 But we've become such an amoral society that we equate the four-year-old kid with the gorilla.

00:12:01.000 In fact, we actually treat the four-year-old with less value than we treat the gorilla, because the gorilla's endangered.

00:12:06.000 There are lots of people on Earth, but there aren't that many silverback gorillas.

00:12:09.000 So scarcity means morality.

00:12:11.000 There's less gorillas, therefore it's more important.

00:12:14.000 This is truly immoral behavior.

00:12:16.000 An animal is not a human being.

00:12:17.000 And if you fail to recognize that, you end up by treating human beings as animals.

00:12:21.000 That's all that ends up happening.

00:12:22.000 Human beings end up treated just like any other animal, which is bad news altogether.

00:12:27.000 But people are going nuts over this.

00:12:28.000 The hashtag justice for Harambee trended.

00:12:30.000 I don't know what justice looks like.

00:12:31.000 What do they want?

00:12:32.000 Electrocute somebody?

00:12:33.000 Justice for Harambee?

00:12:35.000 What insanity?

00:12:36.000 There's a makeshift visual?

00:12:37.000 Okay, there are 250 people who were injured in an airstrike in Syria over the weekend.

00:12:43.000 This got 30 times more coverage than the airstrike in Syria that injured 250 people.

00:12:48.000 Because it's easy to look at that tape and go, oh, the gorilla's cute.

00:12:51.000 The gorilla's not doing anything wrong.

00:12:52.000 That's sad.

00:12:53.000 I'm sure there were a lot of cute kids who died in that airstrike, but nobody seems to care about that.

00:12:57.000 I'm sorry to say, Harambee just isn't that important.

00:13:01.000 It's sad, but on the scale of tragedy in the world, this one ranks at about a three.

00:13:05.000 Okay, maybe.

00:13:06.000 I think that's on the upper end, this one ranking at about a three.

00:13:09.000 This is not a massive tragedy that people should be getting super upset.

00:13:12.000 Neither was Cecil the Lion.

00:13:14.000 And somebody goes and hunts and kills a lion that got out of the... they went into the... the Zimbabwean enclosure.

00:13:19.000 Forget about the fact that the Zimbabwean dictator has destroyed the country, and that the life expectancy in Zimbabwe is cut in half.

00:13:25.000 That doesn't matter, but somebody killed a lion.

00:13:27.000 Ooh, okay.

00:13:28.000 This sort of anthropomorphic worship of animals.

00:13:30.000 All these people who watch The Lion King and then they think lions are their friends.

00:13:33.000 Or they watch Tarzan and then they watch this and they go, oh my god, they just killed Rosie O'Donnell's character in Tarzan.

00:13:39.000 Like, I'm sorry, this just isn't this important in the broad scheme of things, and if you do think that this was that important, then it's because you have a skewed sense of priorities.

00:13:48.000 Then there's a bunch of people who are blaming the zoo, you know, you got Piers Morgan, whose IQ is slightly lower than that of Harambe, tweeting out,

00:13:58.000 Hey, first of all, the zoo hasn't had anybody fall into it since this was created in 1978.

00:14:03.000 The place is examined every single year, more than once, by the USDA and the National Zoo.

00:14:09.000 So it met all the safety standards.

00:14:11.000 It turns out the kids can get into pretty much anywhere.

00:14:13.000 And so this is it.

00:14:15.000 That's it.

00:14:15.000 Then there are the people who say they should have pranked the gorillas.

00:14:17.000 We say this is dumb.

00:14:18.000 And finally, there are the people who blame the mother.

00:14:20.000 And this includes people like Piers Morgan, taking their eye off the ball.

00:14:24.000 No child should ever be able to crawl into a gorilla compound.

00:14:26.000 Ricky Gervais.

00:14:28.000 He says it seems some gorillas make better parents than some people.

00:14:31.000 Highly doubtful, since gorillas are actually known, if I'm not mistaken, for killing the stepchildren of their mates.

00:14:37.000 So, probably not.

00:14:38.000 But, he says some gorillas make better parents.

00:14:41.000 Listen, as a helicopter parent, I look at this and I go, oh my god, this parent is terrible.

00:14:45.000 And then I think for five seconds about what I told you before, about the you turn your back thing with kids.

00:14:50.000 There's not a babysitter alive, there's not a person alive who's babysitting a small toddler.

00:14:54.000 Kids run around.

00:14:55.000 If you have more than one to watch, it's very difficult.

00:14:58.000 It's very difficult, and apparently you shouldn't have more than one to watch at the zoo.

00:15:01.000 So sometimes, and this is an important point, sometimes there's no one to blame when bad things happen.

00:15:06.000 Sometimes bad things just happen.

00:15:07.000 In this case, thank god the kid wasn't killed, the kid wasn't really hurt.

00:15:10.000 But sometimes the world is just a bad place and bad things just happen.

00:15:14.000 And it doesn't have to be anybody's fault.

00:15:15.000 It doesn't mean something terrible.

00:15:17.000 Anybody did anything terrible.

00:15:18.000 But people are constantly looking because they can't accept that the universe is unfair.

00:15:25.000 They are constantly looking for somebody to blame.

00:15:28.000 In this case, there really is nobody to blame.

00:15:30.000 And the people who value the apes over the humans is just beyond me.

00:15:33.000 Okay, but no story would be complete in this day and age.

00:15:35.000 No story would be complete without Donald Trump sounding off on it.

00:15:39.000 So we now have the presidential candidate for the Republicans answering questions about gorillas.

00:15:44.000 The irony here, of course, is that National Review's Kevin Williamson labeled his original article about Donald Trump declaring witless ape rides escalator.

00:15:52.000 So now Donald Trump is talking about gorillas.

00:15:57.000 I have to say that Donald Trump, this probably is the highlight of the presidential season so far, is Donald Trump being asked about gorillas.

00:16:04.000 Somebody asked a question on CNN, they said, would Donald Trump, it was a headline for this clip, said, would Donald Trump have killed gorilla?

00:16:11.000 The answer is no, the gorilla would have killed Donald Trump.

00:16:13.000 I mean, put him in a cage match, that sucker ain't close.

00:16:15.000 But here's Donald Trump.

00:16:17.000 Talking about the gorilla.

00:16:18.000 And to be fair, this is... I mean, if we're really gonna go along with the Jungle Book analogies, this is King Louie.

00:16:24.000 The orange... The orange talking about... Talking about... Talking about the gorillas.

00:16:31.000 Okay, here we go.

00:16:33.000 There were moments with the gorilla, the way he held that child, it was almost like a mother holding a baby.

00:16:40.000 Looked so beautiful and calm.

00:16:43.000 And there were moments where... Looked pretty dangerous.

00:16:47.000 I don't think they had a choice.

00:16:48.000 I mean, probably they didn't have a choice.

00:16:51.000 You have a child, a young child is at stake.

00:16:54.000 Okay, so what he's saying is right, but just hearing Donald Trump do the play-by-play is kind of amusing.

00:16:59.000 There's no way around it.

00:17:01.000 He's like a sports announcer, and then, look at that gorilla, he's holding his hand, and then BOOM!

00:17:08.000 He's gone!

00:17:08.000 Okay.

00:17:08.000 Alright, so.

00:17:23.000 You know, so Donald Trump continues to dominate the headlines, and this is what Trump knows that Hillary Clinton doesn't.

00:17:28.000 Hillary Clinton... So Donald Trump did a press conference, which we'll get to in just a few minutes here.

00:17:32.000 Donald Trump did a press conference, and he talked about veterans, and giving money to veterans, and he talked about gorillas, and he talked about various things.

00:17:40.000 Hillary Clinton has not done a press conference in, I think, four months?

00:17:43.000 It's been 160 days?

00:17:46.000 Something like that?

00:17:47.000 That's why Trump is in the headlines and Hillary isn't, because he'll do press conferences, he'll line ring the press conferences, but he'll do them.

00:17:54.000 Trump understands the media, and we'll get back to that in just a second.

00:17:56.000 First, we need to take a moment, we need to pay homage to the supposed third party that was going to rise in this election cycle, and that is the Libertarian Party.

00:18:06.000 So, there's been a lot of talk about third parties, because nobody likes Trump and nobody likes Hillary, so maybe there will be a third party.

00:18:12.000 So, Bill Kristol

00:18:13.000 He announced over the weekend that this Thursday he's going to announce a third-party candidate who's very serious.

00:18:19.000 And he said that Trump is very upset about it.

00:18:21.000 He tweeted out, I'm traveling, so hadn't realized I'd so upset real Donald Trump.

00:18:25.000 I'm sorry the mere mention of an independent candidate has so unnerved him.

00:18:29.000 And then Ben Carson, who's a Trump campaign surrogate, the worst campaign surrogate in history, he came out and he said there definitely should not be a third-party candidate because it'll just destroy the Republican Party.

00:18:40.000 America right now is like a cruise ship that is about to go off in Niagara Falls with tremendous carnage and death.

00:18:47.000 What you have to do first is recognize the problem, stop the ship, turn it around, and then move in the other direction.

00:18:54.000 I'm hoping that whoever that third party candidate is will just stop for a moment and think about what the implications are.

00:19:02.000 Of allowing Hillary Clinton or someone like her to get in there and they get two to four Supreme Court picks and completely change the nature of this country and destroy the prospects for their children and their grandchildren to have the same opportunities that they had.

00:19:18.000 Okay, so, there it is.

00:19:19.000 Um, and, uh, by the way, if you're wondering why in this particular tape Steve Doocy looks really young, that's because his son Peter Doocy is sitting there on Fox and Friends.

00:19:26.000 But, Ben Carr's saying, well, America's kinda like, it's kinda like a ship, and, um, it's a ship that's, it's like a poop ship.

00:19:33.000 Like, one of those places where the septic system broke, and the poop is flowing out of the various toilets, and it's turned over, it's almost over, but the captain of the ship has, has bailed out on the ship, and it's turning over completely.

00:19:46.000 And I think that all we can do right now is just say that America is beautiful.

00:19:51.000 Okay, so Ben Carson says we shouldn't have a third party.

00:19:54.000 Alright, so we shouldn't have a third party, according to Ben Carson.

00:19:59.000 His case becomes somewhat stronger when you actually look at what happened at the Libertarian Party Convention.

00:20:04.000 So, the Libertarian Party is...

00:20:08.000 I consider myself, when it comes to government, largely libertarian, because I think that the government is terrible at everything, and I think that every time the government expands, personal freedom contracts.

00:20:16.000 Unfortunately, the Libertarian Party is, it appears, almost entirely comprised of insane, nutbag, loonbag, crazy people.

00:20:25.000 So, here is a clip.

00:20:28.000 This guy is running for the chair of the Libertarian Party.

00:20:32.000 Go ahead and start it.

00:21:02.000 Okay.

00:21:08.000 Okay, James Lark is a large, red-bearded man.

00:21:12.000 He's wearing a black suit and a yellow tie.

00:21:18.000 And now, he's dancing around on stage, clapping.

00:21:23.000 And this is gonna go pretty much where you think it is, in your worst nightmares, in your worst imaginations.

00:21:29.000 And they've flashed to the crowd, and it looks like a bunch of people who literally spend all day eating Cheetos and playing Dungeons & Dragons.

00:21:39.000 And here's this guy, dancing around.

00:21:42.000 This is his case!

00:21:43.000 This is his case for being the chair of the Libertarian Party.

00:21:52.000 Oh, and there go the suspenders, and there goes the tie.

00:21:56.000 And... Oh, yes, Lindsey.

00:21:59.000 Oh, yes, Lindsey!

00:22:01.000 Oh, yes, Lindsey!

00:22:04.000 And now people are reacting in the crowd, covering their eyes.

00:22:06.000 There goes his shirt.

00:22:09.000 And this guy has larger breast excesses than at least half of the Hollywood leading ladies.

00:22:16.000 He also has an Iron Cross tattoo on his shoulder.

00:22:20.000 And at this point, his pants are gone as well.

00:22:23.000 He's taken off his pants.

00:22:25.000 They are gone.

00:22:26.000 And he is wearing a thong.

00:22:28.000 And it is horrifying in every way possible.

00:22:31.000 So this is what a non-major party looks like.

00:22:35.000 And somebody just ran by and put money in his thong.

00:22:37.000 So, I don't know if he's making the case for that's how the government ought to raise money, but if so, we'll be broke pretty quickly.

00:22:44.000 That is horrifying.

00:22:45.000 So this is what happens at the Libertarian Party Convention.

00:22:47.000 Clearly, this is a party to be reckoned with.

00:22:50.000 People that we should take super seriously.

00:22:51.000 And my friend Larry Elder did a debate between the various Libertarian Party candidates, and it just demonstrates what the Libertarian Party is, that because such a bunch of purists, and I'm, listen, I'm ideologically pure, as people know I tend to be a purist, but

00:23:07.000 I voted for Mitt Romney.

00:23:08.000 I voted for John McCain, even though I don't like them.

00:23:10.000 Okay?

00:23:11.000 Because I believe that sometimes half a loaf is better than no loaf at all.

00:23:15.000 I get that argument.

00:23:16.000 I believe in that argument as a general rule.

00:23:18.000 The Libertarian Party doesn't believe that.

00:23:20.000 They're purists.

00:23:21.000 What's odd about them is they just nominated Gary Johnson, who's actually a relatively large government guy.

00:23:26.000 He expanded the budget in New Mexico when he was governor.

00:23:28.000 He's somebody who is pro-choice.

00:23:30.000 He's somebody who believes in the

00:23:33.000 In the government forcing bakers to participate in same-sex weddings and such, that's their new nominee.

00:23:38.000 But they had a debate.

00:23:39.000 Larry Elder, who's a libertarian, he did the debate.

00:23:42.000 He moderated the debate.

00:23:43.000 And this just shows how out of touch they are.

00:23:44.000 They're asking questions about the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

00:23:48.000 Last I checked, it is now 2016.

00:23:50.000 I was born 20 years after the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

00:23:54.000 Nonetheless, this was a major topic of contention at the Libertarian Party Convention.

00:23:59.000 The Civil Rights Act of 1964 ended discrimination in both the private sector and the public sector.

00:24:06.000 Senator Barry Goldwater voted against it for libertarian reasons.

00:24:09.000 He did not feel it was the government's job to tell a private business owner what to do.

00:24:14.000 Senator Al Gore Sr.

00:24:15.000 voted against it because he opposed integration.

00:24:19.000 If you had been in the Senate, how would you have voted?

00:24:21.000 I would have voted for it.

00:24:32.000 And he gets booed.

00:24:32.000 Okay.

00:24:33.000 No elaboration?

00:24:35.000 Nope.

00:24:35.000 You still have more time?

00:24:36.000 Okay.

00:24:37.000 Mr. Peterson.

00:24:38.000 Can you repeat the question one more time?

00:24:40.000 It was kind of whiny.

00:24:40.000 The Civil Rights Act of 1964 ended discrimination in both the private sector and the public sector.

00:24:46.000 Senator Barry Goldwater voted against it for libertarian reasons, feeling that it wasn't the government's job to tell a private owner what to do.

00:24:53.000 Senator Al Gore Sr.

00:24:54.000 voted against it because he imposed racial integration.

00:24:58.000 How would you have voted had you been in the Senate?

00:25:02.000 Wait, you just... Sorry?

00:25:05.000 You're asking whether or not I would have signed the civil rights legislation in 1964.

00:25:09.000 1964, yes.

00:25:10.000 Yes, I would have signed.

00:25:13.000 Okay, if everyone seems confused, that's because every single person on this stage... We can pause it.

00:25:18.000 I mean, if you're wondering why the Libertarians aren't able to pick up any steam, yeah.

00:25:25.000 Number one, these are the sorts of questions that are taken seriously at the debates, and number two, everybody on the stage is apparently high.

00:25:33.000 Gary Johnson, who's a big pot advocate, and has smoked pot publicly, Gary Johnson is obviously... Wait, so you're asking a question I just answered a second ago?

00:25:40.000 Sorry, dude, I just kind of drifted off there.

00:25:43.000 Oh, I'm still here?

00:25:44.000 Oh, okay.

00:25:44.000 Yes, yes.

00:25:46.000 That guy's the nominee, by the way.

00:25:48.000 The other people on the stage include John McAfee, who invented McAfee antivirus, and who I believe was a suspect in a murder, I think.

00:25:57.000 So it's a group of oddballs.

00:26:03.000 Okay, so in any case, by the way, the answer on the 64 Civil Rights Act, if you want to give, there are multiple answers.

00:26:09.000 I say that the Civil Rights Act of 64 does go too far in terms of restricting private sector behavior.

00:26:14.000 They don't have any right to tell somebody in the private sector what they do with their business.

00:26:17.000 If somebody is a terrible, discriminatory, racist jackass, then we ought to start a business across the street from them and run them out of business.

00:26:24.000 It's not the government's job to tell me who I can and cannot participate in business with, okay?

00:26:29.000 Okay, that's my answer to that.

00:26:30.000 As far as would I have signed it in 64?

00:26:32.000 My answer is probably, yeah, I would have signed it in 64, but then I would have looked to repeal the sections that have to do with the private sector.

00:26:39.000 Right, because it's more important to get rid of what the government is doing wrong, and then we can minimize government later.

00:26:44.000 That would be the proper answer to that.

00:26:45.000 Okay, so, but that's not the end of the questions that make libertarians look insane.

00:26:51.000 Larry then asks them about driver's licenses.

00:26:53.000 Here we go.

00:26:55.000 Should someone have to have a government-issued license to drive a car?

00:26:59.000 Hell no!

00:27:02.000 Yeah!

00:27:03.000 People are cheering.

00:27:08.000 Dr. Feldman.

00:27:14.000 A car is like a gun or anything else.

00:27:16.000 As long as you're using it right and not using it to hurt other people, you should have a right to use it.

00:27:22.000 A license and a permit is just another way to get some money and inconvenience to people.

00:27:30.000 Nice tie from this dude.

00:27:31.000 He apparently got his tie over at the fireworks store.

00:27:34.000 But okay, so these are the questions that get asked at Libertarian Debate.

00:27:39.000 When was the last time, Lindsey Mathis, when was the last time you guys sat around considering, should we have driver's licenses or not?

00:27:44.000 In the pantheon of issues important to you in America, should we have driver's licenses or not?

00:27:49.000 Not really high-ranking.

00:27:51.000 Not something I think super important.

00:27:53.000 Now,

00:27:54.000 On principle, I may basically agree with the idea that driver's licenses don't really accomplish all that much because the fact is there are plenty of incompetent drivers on the road.

00:28:03.000 They're still killing people.

00:28:04.000 A lot of them don't have insurance.

00:28:05.000 We live in Southern California.

00:28:06.000 There are tons of people without insurance driving around.

00:28:08.000 There's nothing you can do about it.

00:28:10.000 But this is not high on the priority list, right?

00:28:12.000 This is not a high priority.

00:28:14.000 Okay, and then, if you thought that was too high priority for you, not high priority enough for you, here is something that's really high priority.

00:28:21.000 Would you have engaged in World Wars I and II?

00:28:26.000 I love Larry, but I almost couldn't wait until he got to the War of the Roses.

00:28:29.000 What would your position have been on the War of the Roses?

00:28:31.000 Would you have been for the Lancasters, or would you have been for the Yorks?

00:28:33.000 Like, where do you stand on that one?

00:28:35.000 But here are the candidates being asked about World Wars I and II.

00:28:39.000 Was it wrong for America to have intervened and fought in World War I?

00:28:43.000 Was it wrong for America to have intervened and fought in World War II?

00:28:48.000 It was wrong to intervene in World War I because the sinking of Lusitania, actually they found out that there were munitions.

00:28:54.000 So they were violating the law by sneaking munitions in past the embargo.

00:28:59.000 But after we are attacked in World War II, we have every right to defend ourselves.

00:29:03.000 But we would have never gotten involved in World War II if we would have stayed the hell out of World War I.

00:29:13.000 There were a lot of bright people, and I'm sure if they could find a way not to get into war, they would have done it.

00:29:22.000 I don't have the egotism to try to say that I have a better idea to what I've done at that time.

00:29:27.000 It was a horrible situation, and I don't know whether anything could have been done differently.

00:29:35.000 Could you repeat the question, please?

00:29:37.000 Was it wrong for America to have intervened and fought in World War I?

00:29:40.000 Was it wrong for America to have intervened and fought in World War II?

00:29:47.000 Well, in World War II, I mean, our entire Pacific fleet was destroyed.

00:29:51.000 We certainly have the right to defend ourselves.

00:29:53.000 What would have happened had we not gotten into the war?

00:29:56.000 In World War I, a far more complex affair and way beyond my time.

00:30:00.000 I'm sorry, I do not have the information to answer.

00:30:04.000 This is a fabulous debate.

00:30:06.000 You can see why this is such a major party.

00:30:09.000 Yes, by the way, John McAfee ended up moving to Belize after he spent a lifetime basically doing hard drugs.

00:30:16.000 Then he found McAfee antivirus and he blew all of his money and ended up in Belize and now he's back running for the Libertarian Party.

00:30:23.000 Very exciting.

00:30:24.000 Gary Johnson, the guy in the center who doesn't know what question is being asked, that guy ended up with the Libertarian nomination.

00:30:29.000 On the second ballot yesterday, so all very, very exciting stuff at the Libertarian Convention.

00:30:33.000 And this demonstrates, gang, why ideological purity, while a nice thing, is not the be-all, end-all.

00:30:39.000 It turns out that you actually have to answer questions that are relevant to the last, I don't know...

00:30:44.000 80 years of American politics?

00:30:45.000 We can make a cutoff date.

00:30:47.000 You know, like, the last 80 years I think would be a nice place to be.

00:30:50.000 You know, asking about whether we would have gotten into war with the Kaiser, it seems, what we would have done with the Hun, that seems a little bit odd to me.

00:30:59.000 But, you know, that's how it goes.

00:31:00.000 So, yes, the Libertarian Party as the legit third party candidacy, not so much.

00:31:05.000 Okay, meanwhile, Donald Trump continues to stump the press.

00:31:09.000 I will say this, if there's one thing I like about Donald Trump, and I've said many things I do not like about Donald Trump, but if there's one thing I like about Donald Trump is that he's always on attack against the press all the time.

00:31:17.000 And they deserve it, because, for example, Katie Couric, the former NBC News anchor, she made a documentary about guns, it was a very anti-gun documentary, and there was part of the documentary where she inserted a break in the documentary, she's having a conversation with people, she inserted a false pause to make it look like they didn't know the answer to her question.

00:31:38.000 If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from purchasing a gun?

00:32:11.000 So then they're going to play the audio showing how this actually worked.

00:32:16.000 So the audio was basically right away.

00:32:18.000 She asked the question, they answered the question, and now she's apologized.

00:32:22.000 Okay, fine.

00:32:22.000 So that's Katie Couric.

00:32:24.000 She was a respected member of the media.

00:32:25.000 She's a liar.

00:32:26.000 Brian Williams over the weekend.

00:32:27.000 It was Memorial Day over the weekend, and President Obama gave what I thought was one of the most egregious speeches in American history.

00:32:34.000 In Hiroshima, he basically made the case that us dropping the bomb in Hiroshima was immoral, that the only way to stop violence in the future is with moral relativism, which is precisely the opposite of the truth.

00:32:46.000 If you want to ensure another nuclear attack, all you have to do is keep promoting the idea that all cultures are worthy, all cultures are decent, because they aren't.

00:32:53.000 But in any case, Brian Williams, serial fabulist Brian Williams, he's on MSNBC now because it's impossible to lose your job in the media.

00:33:00.000 And Brian Williams is asked about Hiroshima and here is his explanation of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

00:33:06.000 It is, and that is still the threat that people worry about, that this material will fall into the wrong hands.

00:33:13.000 If people have found the U.S.

00:33:15.000 to be preachy in the years since Hiroshima and Nagasaki about the use of nuclear weapons, it's because we're the only nation to have used them in anger.

00:33:25.000 Sometimes I am amazed that the world has been without these weapons all the years since

00:33:33.000 But it is a point of great pride by the people who've seen to it.

00:33:37.000 Okay, fine.

00:33:38.000 But we used it in anger.

00:33:39.000 Okay, we didn't use it in anger.

00:33:40.000 It was a considered decision to end World War II.

00:33:42.000 It did end World War II.

00:33:44.000 It probably saved a million American lives who would have had to storm the beaches of Japan.

00:33:48.000 But we're the bad guys because we use it.

00:33:50.000 So the media lie all the time.

00:33:52.000 What this leads to is Donald Trump smacking the media.

00:33:55.000 So Donald Trump, this is the thing that I like about Donald Trump.

00:33:57.000 Donald Trump makes a habit of smacking the media.

00:33:59.000 This is clip 26.

00:34:00.000 Donald Trump is doing a press conference today about the veterans.

00:34:04.000 So I'm going to tell you one thing I like about Donald Trump, that he smacks the media, and then I'm going to tell you it also sort of carries the seeds of one of the things I don't like about Donald Trump.

00:34:12.000 So here is Donald Trump.

00:34:14.000 I think you've set a new bar today for being contentious with the press corps, kind of calling us losers to our faces and all that.

00:34:20.000 Is this... No, not all of you, just many of you.

00:34:22.000 All right, fine.

00:34:23.000 Enough of us.

00:34:24.000 Is this what... Not you, David.

00:34:26.000 Is this what it's going to be like covering you if you're president?

00:34:28.000 Yeah, it is.

00:34:29.000 We're going to have this kind of confrontation in the press room?

00:34:32.000 Yeah, it is going to be like this, David.

00:34:34.000 If the press writes false stories,

00:34:36.000 Like they did with this, because half of you were amazed that I raised all of this money.

00:34:41.000 If the press writes false stories like they did where I wanted to keep a low profile, I didn't want the credit for raising all this money for the vets.

00:34:49.000 I wasn't looking for the credit.

00:34:50.000 And by the way, more money is coming in.

00:34:52.000 I wasn't looking for the credit.

00:34:54.000 But I had no choice but to do this, because the press was saying I didn't raise any money for them.

00:34:58.000 Not only did I raise it, much of it was given a long time ago.

00:35:02.000 And there is a vetting process, and I think you understand that.

00:35:04.000 But when I raise almost $6 million — and probably, in the end, we'll raise more than $6 million, because more is going to come in and is coming in — but when I raise $5.6 million as of today, more is coming in.

00:35:16.000 And I — and this is going to phenomenal groups, and I have many of these people vetting

00:35:21.000 The people that are getting the money and working hard, and then we have to read probably libelous stories, or certainly close, in the newspapers, and the people know the stories are false?

00:35:34.000 I'm going to continue to attack the press.

00:35:36.000 Look, I find the press to be extremely dishonest.

00:35:40.000 I find the political press to be unbelievably dishonest.

00:35:44.000 I will say that.

00:35:45.000 Okay, and then he calls one of them, ABC's Tom Llamas, he calls him a scum, a sleazebag?

00:35:51.000 He calls him a sleazy guy, he's a sleazebag.

00:35:53.000 Okay, so, I like the idea that he's gonna attack the press.

00:35:56.000 Here is my, and I've said before, I was attacking the press long before Donald Trump was attacking the press.

00:36:01.000 I've been saying for 10 years, 15 years, that the idea that anybody should be allowing George Stephanopoulos to get through a full interview without saying to him at the outset, George, you were in Hillary Clinton's war room.

00:36:11.000 You have no credibility on this issue.

00:36:13.000 Is ridiculous, okay?

00:36:14.000 But Trump is doing what I've said.

00:36:15.000 So he's taking my tactic.

00:36:16.000 He's attacking the press.

00:36:17.000 Here's the thing I don't like about Donald Trump.

00:36:19.000 He's a liar.

00:36:20.000 So Donald Trump is taking their tower of lies and he's tearing it down.

00:36:24.000 Great, great.

00:36:25.000 He's doing a full King Kong.

00:36:26.000 He's tearing down the tower of lies.

00:36:28.000 Spectacular.

00:36:29.000 Then he stands in the rubble of the lies and then he lies, right?

00:36:32.000 So in this particular case, this happens to be one of the rare cases, one of the only cases that I know of where the media is actually honest.

00:36:39.000 So what happened is that Donald Trump, you remember this,

00:36:41.000 Donald Trump skipped the Fox News debate where Megyn Kelly was moderating, and he did his I'm-gonna-raise-money-for-the-veterans routine, mainly because he didn't want to go up against Megyn Kelly and the other candidates.

00:36:50.000 So he does his I'm-gonna-raise-money-for-the-veterans routine, and then he says that night, we've raised six million dollars for the veterans, and I myself have signed a check for a million dollars to veterans groups.

00:36:59.000 And he says this back in January.

00:37:01.000 And that's the last you hear of it.

00:37:03.000 But he keeps saying, yeah, I've raised so much money for the veterans, I love the veterans, I raised so much money for them, I signed a million-dollar check.

00:37:08.000 So, Washington Post has a reporter named David Fahrenthold.

00:37:12.000 And David Fahrenthold investigated, and what he found is that there were zero veterans groups that had said that Trump had given them a million dollars.

00:37:19.000 So, did he actually do it?

00:37:21.000 Last week.

00:37:22.000 Last week.

00:37:23.000 Okay, remember now what the date is, okay?

00:37:24.000 The date today is May 31st.

00:37:26.000 Okay, we're almost in June.

00:37:28.000 So it's almost been six months since Trump said this.

00:37:31.000 Last week, Donald Trump signed a million-dollar check to a veterans group, after these reports ran.

00:37:35.000 And then he turns around and calls the media dishonest.

00:37:38.000 Then he calls the media dishonest.

00:37:40.000 I agree the media is dishonest.

00:37:41.000 But in this case, he was dishonest.

00:37:44.000 So this is the thing I love about Trump and also the thing I hate.

00:37:47.000 Trump has a habit of picking the right opponents and then doing all the bad things his opponents do while tearing them down.

00:37:55.000 This is the part that I dislike about Trump.

00:37:57.000 And meanwhile, the Republican Party is getting behind Donald Trump foursquare.

00:38:01.000 They're getting behind him foursquare.

00:38:04.000 And tactically, glad he attacks the media, but he's obviously somebody who doesn't tell the truth.

00:38:09.000 Doesn't matter, the Republican Party's gonna get behind him anyway.

00:38:11.000 I mean, I heard a radio host this morning, who shall remain nameless, playing this clip of Trump and going, it's true, the political press is dishonest.

00:38:18.000 And then...

00:38:19.000 Not mentioning any of the context that I just gave you.

00:38:21.000 So I'm honest enough to tell you, the political press is dishonest.

00:38:25.000 That doesn't mean they're wrong and lying all the time.

00:38:28.000 Sometimes Trump is wrong and lying also.

00:38:30.000 In any case, Mitch McConnell.

00:38:31.000 So remember that, do you remember that time?

00:38:32.000 It was, I'm old enough to remember this.

00:38:34.000 I'm old enough to remember a time when Donald Trump was not an establishment guy, right?

00:38:38.000 Where he was anti-establishment.

00:38:39.000 He was gonna change the way politics worked.

00:38:41.000 Donald Trump was going to go in there.

00:38:43.000 He was a living rebuke.

00:38:44.000 He was a human middle finger to Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan.

00:38:48.000 He was a human middle finger to the Mitt Romneys of the party.

00:38:51.000 Mitch McConnell, Senate Majority Leader, he's now coming out and he's saying, no, no, we can't have a third party.

00:38:55.000 A third party would just be completely disrespectful and terrible.

00:38:57.000 We can't do it.

00:38:58.000 So you have endorsed Donald Trump.

00:39:00.000 Yeah.

00:39:01.000 And you're saying, does that mean you approve of all that he's done?

00:39:06.000 Well, let me put it this way.

00:39:08.000 We know what we get with Hillary Clinton.

00:39:10.000 Four more years, just like the last eight.

00:39:13.000 We know the average American is about $3,000 a year worse off now than they were when President Obama came to office.

00:39:19.000 The country is yearning for a change.

00:39:22.000 And my view is four more years, like the last eight, is not good for the country.

00:39:28.000 He won the nomination fair and square.

00:39:30.000 He went out there and competed like everybody else.

00:39:32.000 He got the most votes.

00:39:34.000 And I think it's disrespectful of the Republican electorate to say, I'm smarter than you are, and I'm not going to support your choice.

00:39:43.000 So what have you said to Paul Ryan in regards to that, then?

00:39:46.000 He still has not endorsed Donald Trump.

00:39:47.000 Well, you know, Paul has his own view of this.

00:39:50.000 My view is that Republican primary voters have spoken.

00:39:53.000 I know what we get with Hillary Clinton.

00:39:56.000 And I'd rather take my chances on somebody new, who I think, particularly with regard to the Supreme Court, is going to appoint people that I think would be better for the country.

00:40:06.000 Okay, so that's all wonderful, except for the fact that he's now embracing everything that Trump is.

00:40:12.000 So, put that quote in the back of your mind, right?

00:40:14.000 Trump is gonna do all these great things, Hillary's awful, Obama's awful, now listen to McConnell here, okay?

00:40:21.000 So McConnell is going to explain, he's asked by Hugh Hewitt,

00:40:24.000 Is Trump going to change the nature of the Republican Party?

00:40:26.000 Here's Mitch McConnell's answer.

00:40:28.000 Well, whether he has or not, he's not going to change the Republican Party.

00:40:31.000 You know, we've had nominees before who were not deeply into Republican politics and philosophy.

00:40:41.000 Think of Eisenhower, for example.

00:40:44.000 But Trump is not going to change the institution.

00:40:49.000 He's not going to change the basic philosophy of the party.

00:40:53.000 And I'm comfortable voting for him because on the big things that I think have the greatest impact on the future of the country, at the top of the list is the Supreme Court.

00:41:06.000 I think he'll be just fine.

00:41:08.000 Okay, so there it is.

00:41:09.000 Okay, you can't have it both ways.

00:41:11.000 You can't have it both ways.

00:41:12.000 You can't say that Donald Trump isn't gonna shape the party and then say, I like Donald Trump, I'm getting behind him, foursquare, everything he does is hunky-dory with me.

00:41:21.000 You can't have it both ways.

00:41:22.000 This is the problem.

00:41:23.000 And for all those people who say that Mitch McConnell isn't gonna make deals with Trump, he seems pretty sanguine about Donald Trump, doesn't he?

00:41:29.000 For all the people who say that Trump isn't going to cut deals with McConnell, McConnell seems kind of okay with all this, doesn't he?

00:41:34.000 So again, all Trump is is just a giant human inkblot.

00:41:38.000 He's a Rorschach test.

00:41:39.000 And so you can have people, so you have Mitch McConnell saying Trump won't change the GOP, and literally at the exact same time, on TV, you've got Rudy Giuliani saying Trump is a demonstration that our politics can change, he will change the GOP.

00:41:54.000 And without denigrating them in any way, I think

00:41:59.000 He's a real hope for us that our politics can finally change.

00:42:05.000 You and I both know Donald really well, and we know he's a dealmaker.

00:42:10.000 And I know that somehow people think that means compromising your principles.

00:42:17.000 I think that means accomplishing your principles.

00:42:20.000 I think that means if I believe in lower taxes, maybe I can't get all the lower taxes I want.

00:42:29.000 If I believe in less regulations.

00:42:32.000 Maybe I can't get rid of all the regulations, but I sure as heck can get rid of most of them.

00:42:37.000 And if I believe in defeating the Ayatollah, it don't well happen.

00:42:43.000 Okay, so he says there that Trump is the hope that politics can change.

00:42:45.000 You've got Newt Gingrich saying that there will be Trump-Americans.

00:42:48.000 They're not Republicans.

00:42:48.000 They're not Democrats.

00:42:49.000 They're Trump-Americans.

00:42:50.000 And then we've got Mitch McConnell saying the party isn't going to change.

00:42:53.000 So here is Sean Hannity and Newt Gingrich both vying for Donald Trump's VP slot.

00:42:57.000 Here's Newt Gingrich explaining that there will be Trump-Americans all over the world.

00:43:01.000 Trump-Americans.

00:43:02.000 It'll all be Trump.

00:43:03.000 It'll all be Trump.

00:43:04.000 It's like Gloria Swanson at the end of Sunset Boulevard.

00:43:06.000 And blazing lights everywhere, it'll be Trump.

00:43:08.000 Look, I believe, and you heard it here for the first time, so you can keep this and play it later on the air.

00:43:13.000 Just as there were once Reagan Democrats, I think there are going to be Trump Americans.

00:43:19.000 And they're not going to be people who rush in and decide they're Republican the next day.

00:43:22.000 But they're going to say, look, to make America great again, I'm going to be for Donald Trump.

00:43:26.000 They're going to be in all 50 states.

00:43:29.000 They're going to be in places you never expected.

00:43:31.000 And I think we're going to have a new map, as I said.

00:43:34.000 Replace red and blue because it's the old order.

00:43:37.000 Replace red and blue.

00:43:38.000 It's the old order.

00:43:39.000 It's the Trump order now.

00:43:40.000 They'll be in places you never expected.

00:43:41.000 You'll open your baking closet and boom!

00:43:43.000 There's a Trump supporter.

00:43:44.000 You get up in the morning and out from the bed creeps a stubby orange hand and it's a Trump supporter.

00:43:49.000 Okay, so.

00:43:50.000 So, you can't have it both ways, gang.

00:43:52.000 Either Trump's going to transform the party, or he's not.

00:43:54.000 If he's not, he's going to keep people like Mitch McConnell in power, because that's what Trump does.

00:43:58.000 If he is going to transform the party, he's going to transform it into Trumpism, not into conservatism.

00:44:03.000 Either way, we don't have a particularly good solution to any of our problems.

00:44:07.000 All that said, the good news for Donald Trump is that Hillary Clinton is worse at everything in every possible way it is possible to be terrible.

00:44:12.000 She is just a smoking garbage heap of a campaign.

00:44:15.000 I mean, she's the wreckage of the Death Star.

00:44:18.000 She's just glowing bits of nothing floating off into space.

00:44:23.000 She's awful.

00:44:23.000 Here's what she said today.

00:44:24.000 This is a legit quote from Hillary Clinton.

00:44:26.000 She said, she encountered people on rope lines who tell her quote, I really admire you.

00:44:30.000 I really like you.

00:44:31.000 I just don't know if I can vote for a woman to be president.

00:44:35.000 These are things no one has ever said in the history of humanity.

00:44:38.000 At a rope line, at her own event, people are going there just to tell her, I can't vote for you because of that vagina lady.

00:44:43.000 Really, that's happening.

00:44:45.000 By the way, Dianne Feinstein, who's a top Hillary ally.

00:44:50.000 She gave what I thought was the funniest comment of the weekend.

00:44:53.000 She was asked about Hillary Clinton's server, and Dianne Feinstein, who is the not- California has two senators, the stupidest woman in the history of American politics, Barbara Boxer, and Dianne Feinstein, she of the lifely size.

00:45:04.000 And Dianne Feinstein, she of the lifely size, was on, I think it was ABC News, and she's asked about Hillary's email server.

00:45:11.000 Listen to this answer, it's amazing.

00:45:14.000 I think questions are asked and answers are sometimes taken out of context.

00:45:19.000 Hillary Clinton broke no law.

00:45:21.000 I read all 42 pages of the report.

00:45:25.000 The conclusion of the report does not say that.

00:45:28.000 What it says is that the department

00:45:31.000 does not handle these electronic platform operations well and needs to do better.

00:45:38.000 Hillary herself has said, yes, I made a mistake.

00:45:42.000 If I had a chance to do it over again, I'd do it differently.

00:45:46.000 I mean, what do people want?

00:45:48.000 I say enough is enough.

00:45:50.000 Let's get to the major problems facing this nation.

00:45:53.000 But Mrs. Clinton has said that it was widely known that she was using her personal email.

00:45:59.000 But, if you look at this report, it says that when State Department staffers expressed concerns about the arrangement, their supervisor, quote, instructed the staff never to speak of the Secretary's personal email system again.

00:46:15.000 That sure sounds like somebody trying to hide something.

00:46:18.000 Oh, wait a second.

00:46:19.000 I don't believe she was trying to hide anything.

00:46:23.000 I've known Hillary for a quarter of a century.

00:46:26.000 Let me tell you what I do think.

00:46:29.000 I think this is a woman who wants a little bit of a private life.

00:46:33.000 She wants to be able to communicate with husband, with daughter, with friends.

00:46:41.000 Okay, so that's Hillary's defender, is that Hillary wants a little bit of a private life so she can coordinate with Bill.

00:46:51.000 What, when she doesn't have to be home so the Energizer can come over and nail Bill?

00:46:55.000 What?

00:46:56.000 Yeah, this is Hillary's Defender.

00:46:58.000 Yeah, Hillary's got troubles, gang.

00:47:00.000 Hillary has some serious troubles.

00:47:01.000 Okay, time for something I like and then something I don't like.

00:47:04.000 So, a book that I just finished over the weekend is called Who Needs the Fed by John Tammany.

00:47:09.000 This is from Encounter Books.

00:47:10.000 They have a whole series of really good, kind of shorter books that have come out now about economics.

00:47:15.000 And basically, it breaks down what exactly the Federal Reserve does and whether it's worthwhile.

00:47:19.000 And he makes a case which I don't really agree with him.

00:47:23.000 He makes the case that basically the stock market boom and the real estate boom are not due to Fed policy.

00:47:28.000 He says that that was basically due to governmental regulation.

00:47:32.000 And he makes the case that we don't need the Fed anymore.

00:47:34.000 You may have noticed a pattern on my economics reading.

00:47:36.000 George Gilder makes the same case.

00:47:38.000 The Federal Reserve, in my opinion,

00:47:40.000 Is in a highly overrated institute.

00:47:43.000 It doesn't accomplish any of the goals that it was set out to accomplish in the first place.

00:47:47.000 At least, it doesn't accomplish anything that couldn't be accomplished equally in the private sector.

00:47:50.000 Up to and including Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation stuff.

00:47:53.000 You know, if you go to the bank, you have $500,000 in the bank, the bank goes bust.

00:47:57.000 The feds reimburse you up to $250,000.

00:47:59.000 You should be able to buy insurance for that through your bank, right?

00:48:01.000 You shouldn't have to... We don't have that in any other area of life.

00:48:05.000 Why do you need it from the federal government here?

00:48:07.000 Aw, man.

00:48:37.000 I'm not created equal.

00:48:40.000 When I think back in 1776, July the 4th, African Americans were slaves.

00:48:52.000 And for you to, and for you bring a bill to request that our children will recite the Declaration

00:49:07.000 I think it's a little bit unfair to us to ask those children to recite something that's not the truth.

00:49:18.000 You don't think that all men are created equal?

00:49:20.000 Let me finish.

00:49:22.000 And for you to ask our children to repeat the declaration stating that all men are free, I think that's unfair.

00:49:35.000 In 1776, Dr. King was not even born.

00:49:49.000 The Declaration of Independence was written as a highly aspirational document.

00:49:53.000 The founders originally had a provision that would have abolished slavery in the Declaration of Independence, or at least condemned the British Empire for importing slavery into the colonies.

00:50:01.000 The South bucked at that.

00:50:02.000 If you wanted to have a free, independent country, you needed to have consensus so that you would actually not have a divided country at the very outset, which is why slavery was sort of taken off the table in the Declaration of Independence, but started to be phased out by the Constitution of the United States.

00:50:18.000 This idea that the Declaration of Independence, this is like saying that great things that happen in the Bible, right?

00:50:23.000 In the Bible, there's talk of slavery.

00:50:24.000 There is.

00:50:25.000 There's talk of slavery.

00:50:25.000 You capture people in war.

00:50:27.000 Do you keep them as slaves?

00:50:28.000 Do you not keep them as slaves?

00:50:29.000 There's a lot of talk in the Bible about this sort of thing.

00:50:31.000 This is like saying that when it says, let my people go, a phrase that Dr. King was fond of using, right?

00:50:36.000 That the Bible counted in slavery, therefore we can't use it.

00:50:39.000 Dr. King, by the way, fond of quoting the Declaration of Independence.

00:50:42.000 Right?

00:50:42.000 Fond of quoting the Declaration of Independence and saying that this was the, the Halcyon cry.

00:50:47.000 This was the, this was what America was all about.

00:50:49.000 We weren't living up to our founding ideals.

00:50:52.000 Unfortunately, I think there's a tendency on the left to say that because American history was imperfect in their ugly areas of American history, that means American founding principles are ingrained and wrong and therefore we have to overthrow the entire system as a whole.

00:51:04.000 That's scary stuff when you're talking about the creation of the greatest country in the history of mankind on the best ideals ever thought up by man.

00:51:11.000 Or God, by the way.

00:51:12.000 This is frightening stuff.

00:51:14.000 And it comes out of historical ignorance, because the fact is, again, the Declaration of Independence was specifically phrased in the way that it was, because the idea was that it was supposed to provide for the future freedom of all human beings, not even humans relegated to the United States.

00:51:27.000 Human beings everywhere.

00:51:28.000 Okay, we'll be back tomorrow to talk a little bit more about that and other topics.

00:51:32.000 Hopefully the guerrilla warfare will have died down by that point and we can talk about other things aside from Harambee, but I'm sure there'll be plenty to talk about.

00:51:40.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:51:40.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

Ep. 126 - America Breaks Into Insane Gorilla Warfare

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