The Ben Shapiro Show

00:00:00.000 Today, the New York Times tore into Donald Trump's racist attacks on Judge Gonzalo Curiel.

00:00:05.000 Instead of attacking Curiel for his association with a pro-illegal immigration organization, Trump went directly at Curiel's ethnicity.

00:00:12.000 You'll remember, he claimed that his Mexican parentage, who was born in Indiana, made him unfit to serve as a judge on the Trump University case.

00:00:19.000 Here is the New York Times, quote,

00:00:34.000 And such challenges would make judges vulnerable to recusal motions for reasons of race, ethnicity, gender, or religion in every case that came before them.

00:00:42.000 Once it started, the ethnic cleansing of the court system could be made to apply to any unpopular group at any time.

00:00:47.000 Mr. Trump is essentially arguing that his own bigoted attitude toward Mexicans has disqualified a respected jurist from hearing a court case in which he is a defendant.

00:00:55.000 Okay, that's basically right, but we must ask.

00:00:59.000 Did the New York Times just realize that discrimination for or against people on the basis of race is racist?

00:01:05.000 See, here's the thing.

00:01:06.000 I understand why people like me, people on the right, are upset with Trump.

00:01:09.000 We think that ethnicity and race are completely irrelevant to your quality as a human being.

00:01:13.000 We don't care whether your parents were Mexican or Irish or Armenian or Jewish.

00:01:16.000 We only care whether you're a good human being doing good things.

00:01:20.000 The left doesn't hold by that same standard.

00:01:22.000 The left constantly suggests white cops can't make objectively decent police decisions in minority communities.

00:01:29.000 And when President Obama nominated now Justice Sonia Sotomayor, news quickly broke of a lecture she'd given in 2001 in which she labeled herself better qualified for the judiciary because she was, quote, a wise Latina woman.

00:01:41.000 This is racism.

00:01:42.000 Ethnicity doesn't make you a better judge, but it was one of the chief qualifiers for that same New York Times, which defended Sotomayor's comments and excoriated her critics.

00:01:49.000 Here's what the Times wrote all the way back then.

00:01:52.000 The first Hispanic nominee to the court is being called racist.

00:01:55.000 She's being attacked as not smart enough, as too abrasive, a description often applied to women who speak their minds in public life.

00:02:01.000 There have even been reports that critics have taken aim at her taste for Puerto Rican food.

00:02:06.000 The context matters.

00:02:07.000 She was pointing out throughout history, even esteemed white male justices like Oliver Wendell Holmes voted to uphold race and sex discrimination.

00:02:14.000 She said accidents of birth inform people's views, but judges must strive to look beyond them.

00:02:19.000 Some of judges Sotomayor's detractors seem uncomfortable

00:02:22.000 With her Puerto Rican heritage.

00:02:24.000 So, in other words, according to the New York Times, racism is totally cool when it comes from the left, when you use diversity as code for ethnic cleansing of white people, like Oliver Wendell Holmes from the Judiciary.

00:02:34.000 But when it's the reverse, then it has to be called out.

00:02:37.000 It should be called out in both of these cases.

00:02:38.000 Racism is bad, gang.

00:02:40.000 There are those like Racist Panzer or Pat Buchanan.

00:02:42.000 He thinks the left's racism justifies his own.

00:02:45.000 And so he justifies Donald Trump's comments on these grounds.

00:02:47.000 He says, quote, To many liberals, all white Southern males are citizens under eternal suspicion of being racists.

00:02:53.000 The most depressing thing about this episode is to see Republicans rushing to stomp on Trump to show the left how well they've mastered their liberal catechism.

00:03:02.000 Fighting racism is not a liberal catechism, gang.

00:03:04.000 It's the right thing to do.

00:03:05.000 But, because there are racists on both sides, racism is now returning with a vengeance.

00:03:10.000 Papu-canons, what's good for them is good for us.

00:03:12.000 Revenge racism.

00:03:13.000 And the left's diversity over merit racism.

00:03:15.000 All of this is ugly and all of it ought to be fought.

00:03:17.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:03:17.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:03:26.000 So, last night Hillary Clinton locked up the number of delegates that she's going to need in order for her to be the nominee, and she's very, very excited about it.

00:03:34.000 Nobody else is particularly excited about it.

00:03:36.000 The excitement is gone.

00:03:37.000 The thrill is gone for Hillary.

00:03:39.000 When she keeps saying this is a historic moment, all I can think of is, well, so was the Hindenburg, but that wasn't that great.

00:03:45.000 Here's Hillary Clinton ripping on Bernie Sanders.

00:03:47.000 Bernie Sanders, by the way, says, I don't trust any of these counts.

00:03:50.000 We're going all the way to the convention.

00:03:52.000 And Hillary basically says, you don't understand math.

00:03:54.000 And he says, well, yeah, that's why I'm a socialist.

00:03:56.000 Here's what Hillary says about Bernie Sanders.

00:04:01.000 When Senator Sanders has been essentially warning the networks, warning journalists that they shouldn't declare the nomination clinched tomorrow, even if you do cross the delegate threshold, because he says the superdelegates can't really be counted until they vote at the convention.

00:04:17.000 Obviously, as you just explained, that was not your calculus in 2008 when the race was even closer than it is now.

00:04:23.000 What's your reaction to him casting the race that way?

00:04:27.000 Does that frustrate you?

00:04:29.000 I find it perplexing.

00:04:32.000 What he basically seems to be saying is that the will of the people should be overturned.

00:04:38.000 I have this very substantial lead in the popular vote, more than 3 million votes.

00:04:43.000 That means more than 3 million Democrats and others voting in Democratic contests have chosen me.

00:04:48.000 I have a very significant lead in pledged delegates.

00:04:52.000 He basically seems to be suggesting that superdelegates should overturn the will of the people.

00:05:01.000 That is just hard for me to understand.

00:05:04.000 It's never happened before.

00:05:06.000 It's not going to happen this time.

00:05:08.000 Okay, so she's right, actually, when she says that Sanders is dismissing the quote-unquote will of the people.

00:05:14.000 I do want to point out that will of the people is a malleable term, as we've noticed.

00:05:18.000 It was the will of the people that Donald Trump be the nominee with 42% of the popular vote.

00:05:22.000 It's the will of the people that Hillary Clinton be the nominee with a majority of the vote.

00:05:26.000 It's the will of the people that Bernie Sanders be the nominee because he's got more enthusiasm.

00:05:31.000 The will of the people doesn't mean anything.

00:05:32.000 All that means anything is the actual number of votes that are counted.

00:05:36.000 And so when people say will of the people, you should search for your wallet a little bit.

00:05:39.000 It's very rare that there is one single will of the people

00:05:42.000 It really is just an excuse for a certain sort to say, I deserve power, right?

00:05:48.000 I channel the will of the people.

00:05:49.000 There is no single will of the people.

00:05:51.000 People have various different wills.

00:05:52.000 It's one of the reasons for small government.

00:05:54.000 It's one of the reasons that a small government is a good thing, because if the government is small, presumably, this allows you to have your own will.

00:06:01.000 There's no grand will of the people that must be enacted by any particular politician.

00:06:05.000 I've seen it for more than a year.

00:06:17.000 My supporters are passionate, they are committed, they have voted for me in great numbers across our country for many reasons, but among those reasons is their belief that having a woman president will make a great statement, a historic statement about what kind of country we are, what we stand for.

00:06:40.000 It's really emotional and I am someone who

00:06:45.000 Has been very touched and

00:06:48.000 I'm really encouraged by this extraordinary conviction that people have.

00:06:54.000 It's predominantly women and girls, but not exclusively.

00:06:57.000 Men bring their daughters to meet me and tell me that they are supporting me because of their daughters.

00:07:03.000 Okay, let's stop it there.

00:07:04.000 So this is all, you can't rip Donald Trump for saying that Mexican judges are going to be biased against him if you're willing to say Hillary's a better president because she has a vuhuhu.

00:07:14.000 Right?

00:07:14.000 It doesn't work that way.

00:07:15.000 You don't get to have it both ways.

00:07:16.000 By the way, no one is excited about Hillary being the first female president.

00:07:19.000 No one.

00:07:20.000 This idea that there are masses of women out there like, Yay!

00:07:23.000 First female president!

00:07:25.000 They don't exist.

00:07:25.000 Okay?

00:07:26.000 There are a few of them, I'm sure.

00:07:27.000 They're all in Hollywood, and they all pat themselves on the back for how wonderful they are.

00:07:31.000 But, they're not real.

00:07:33.000 There's no broad movement.

00:07:34.000 And by the way, this idea that women are somehow out of power in politics, 55% of the electorate is female.

00:07:40.000 Okay, more women than men vote in the United States.

00:07:42.000 So this whole thing, men control politics.

00:07:44.000 Well, ladies, that's your fault then, because you're the ones who are voting.

00:07:47.000 You're voting in greater numbers than we are.

00:07:49.000 And by the way that you've been voting lately, you're making a big botch of it.

00:07:52.000 So, you might want to reconsider this whole, women have it better when you elect President Obama twice, and now you're going to elect Hillary Clinton.

00:08:00.000 So, Hillary says all this.

00:08:02.000 She also says she's excited about having President Obama's support.

00:08:04.000 It's all very exciting.

00:08:06.000 I want to point out here that the media

00:08:08.000 Have now made clear what we all knew they were going to do.

00:08:11.000 So what the media said early on is they said Donald Trump where we're going to cover him.

00:08:16.000 We're going to cover and there's this baseline assumption by members of the Republican Party that they were going to that the media was going to treat Trump fairly in a general election.

00:08:26.000 No, it was never going to happen.

00:08:27.000 The media has passed the point where they got to nominate the Republican nominee, Donald Trump, and they got to nominate the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, and now they're coming out in force.

00:08:35.000 So, I want to show you some questions that were asked to Hillary Clinton at this press gaggle.

00:08:40.000 I just want to show you the questions.

00:08:41.000 This is clip 24.

00:08:43.000 It's amazing.

00:08:44.000 Listen to the questions that are being asked by the press.

00:08:46.000 They finally get a chance to ask a felon questions, right?

00:08:49.000 And instead of asking her about her felonies, or instead of asking her about her vague policies, instead of asking her about Libya, instead of asking her about a thousand things, here is what they ask Hillary Clinton.

00:09:01.000 And this sounds exactly like a sports press gaggle after somebody throws the winning touchdown.

00:09:05.000 How did it feel to throw that winning touchdown?

00:09:08.000 What do you think they're gonna say?

00:09:09.000 It felt terrible, you know?

00:09:10.000 It made me really remember the plight of the suffering in China.

00:09:13.000 What do you think she's gonna say?

00:09:14.000 But here's how the media are really gonna treat Hillary Clinton all the way through.

00:09:18.000 It's one of the reasons why- Donald Trump is just a big middle finger to everything.

00:09:22.000 One of the reasons that Donald Trump is a big middle finger to the media is because of stuff like this.

00:09:25.000 Here's how the media treat Hillary Clinton.

00:09:27.000 You're on the cusp of being the first female nominee of a major party.

00:09:31.000 What does that mean to you and how are you reflecting on that?

00:09:33.000 No matter what happens tomorrow, Bernie Sanders has said the convention in Philadelphia will be contested.

00:09:39.000 Do you think there's anything you can do to change that at this point?

00:09:42.000 But is it setting in that you might be making some serious history tomorrow?

00:09:49.000 Do you believe that some prominent Democrats have come out saying we maybe need to reevaluate the superdelegate system more broadly?

00:09:56.000 Irrespective of what happens in this primary, do you support looking into that and perhaps getting rid of them?

00:10:01.000 Secretary, last night when you took stage in Sacramento, there was a woman standing next to me who was absolutely sobbing.

00:10:10.000 And she said, you know, it's time.

00:10:13.000 It's past time.

00:10:14.000 And you see the women, you see people here.

00:10:18.000 Okay, we can cut it there.

00:10:32.000 Women were sobbing.

00:10:34.000 Sobbing.

00:10:35.000 Do you feel the weight of history on you, Winston Churchill?

00:10:38.000 Do you feel like this is just like when they were fighting the Nazis, and there you are with your bahoohoo, waving it around, telling everybody that you deserve to be president?

00:10:46.000 These kind of questions from the press make everyone want to start vomiting and never stop vomiting.

00:10:50.000 It becomes that gif from Team America where it's just like, there's the long vomit scene and just keeps vomiting and vomiting.

00:10:56.000 Or like The Exorcist, where everyone's head swivels around and they vomit in 360 degrees.

00:11:01.000 This is, this is, this is why people say, well, F you Trump!

00:11:06.000 This is why, because the media is so horrible at all of this.

00:11:10.000 They're just horrible and they're terrible in every way.

00:11:13.000 Now,

00:11:14.000 With that said, with that said, here is the person you chose to go up against Hillary Clinton.

00:11:20.000 So, I'm about to say the four words that... Some people say they hate to say these four words.

00:11:26.000 These are actually my four favorite words in the English language because it proves to you you should continue to listen to me and also you should take what I say seriously because I am almost invariably correct.

00:11:34.000 So, here it is.

00:11:35.000 I told you so.

00:11:37.000 So back in March,

00:11:38.000 I wrote a piece in the Jewish Journal, we talked about it at the time, in which I explained why Donald Trump had risen to power, what was driving all of this, and one of the factors that I named was Donald Trump's take on American exceptionalism.

00:11:49.000 So what I said, and I want to read you the section from this piece, so let me grab that really quickly, if the internet will cooperate.

00:11:58.000 So what Donald Trump said,

00:12:01.000 So what I said about American exceptionalism, I said, wrote this direct quote, okay, back March 2nd.

00:12:31.000 Trump means it proudly.

00:12:33.000 His nationalism is a reaction to Obama's anti-nationalism.

00:12:36.000 It says Barack Obama may think America isn't worthy of special protection because we're not special.

00:12:41.000 Well, we're America, damn it, even if we don't know what makes us special.

00:12:45.000 According to Trump, we ought to operate off the assumption that Americans deserve better lives, not because they live out better principles or represent a better system, but because they're here.

00:12:53.000 The Republican Party has stood for embrace of anyone who will embrace American values.

00:12:57.000 Extreme European right-wing parties tend to embrace people out of ethnic allegiance rather than ideological allegiance.

00:13:03.000 Trump uncomfortably straddles that divide.

00:13:05.000 That's what I said about Trump's take on American exceptionalism.

00:13:08.000 He doesn't know what makes America exceptional.

00:13:10.000 He doesn't know, right?

00:13:11.000 He thinks that what makes American exceptional is that we are rich, right?

00:13:15.000 That we're successful.

00:13:16.000 So this is what I said about Trump, right?

00:13:17.000 And people, oh no, he knows what American exceptionalism, he knows what it... Here is, this is April 2015, it's now been uncovered by Mother Jones.

00:13:25.000 Here is Donald Trump being asked specifically, specifically, about American exceptionalism.

00:13:30.000 Here is Donald Trump's answer.

00:13:32.000 Here we go.

00:13:33.000 Define American exceptionalism.

00:13:36.000 Does American exceptionalism still exist?

00:13:39.000 And, uh...

00:13:40.000 What do we do to grow American exceptionalism?

00:13:42.000 Okay, well, I don't like the term, I'll be honest with you.

00:13:44.000 And people are gonna say, oh, he's not patriotic.

00:13:46.000 Look, if I'm a Russian, or if I'm a German, or if I'm a person we do business with, why, you know, I don't think it's a very nice term.

00:13:55.000 We're exceptional, you're not.

00:13:57.000 First of all, Germany's eating our lunch.

00:13:59.000 So they say, why are you exceptional?

00:14:01.000 We're doing a lot better than you.

00:14:03.000 I never liked the term.

00:14:05.000 And perhaps that's because I don't have a very big ego and I don't need terms like that, but honestly.

00:14:12.000 When you're doing business, I mean, I watch Obama every once in a while say American exceptionalism.

00:14:18.000 I don't like the term.

00:14:20.000 Because we're dealing, first of all, I want to take everything back from the world that we've given them.

00:14:24.000 We've given them so much.

00:14:26.000 On top of taking it back, I don't want to say we're exceptional.

00:14:28.000 We're more exceptional.

00:14:29.000 Essentially, you're saying we're more outstanding than you.

00:14:33.000 By the way, you've been eating our lunch for the last 20 years.

00:14:38.000 But we're more exceptional than you.

00:14:39.000 I don't like the term.

00:14:40.000 I never liked it.

00:14:41.000 When I see these politicians go, with the American exceptionalism, then we're dying.

00:14:46.000 We owe 18 trillion in debt.

00:14:49.000 I'd like to make us exceptional, and I'd like to talk later instead of now.

00:14:53.000 Does that make any sense?

00:14:54.000 That's good.

00:14:54.000 Because I think you're insulting the world.

00:14:57.000 You're insulting the world.

00:14:58.000 This is a major moment.

00:14:58.000 And you know, Jim, if you're German, or if you're from Japan, or you're from China,

00:15:04.000 You don't want to have people saying that.

00:15:07.000 Right.

00:15:07.000 I never liked the expression.

00:15:09.000 And I see a lot of good patriots get up and talk about America.

00:15:12.000 You can think it, but I don't think we should say it.

00:15:15.000 We may have a chance to say it in the not-too-distant future, but even then I wouldn't say it.

00:15:20.000 Because when I take back the jobs, and when I take back all that money, and we get all our... I don't want to rub it in.

00:15:27.000 Let's not rub it in.

00:15:28.000 Let's not rub it in.

00:15:31.000 But I never liked that term.

00:15:33.000 Okay, that's an amazing statement.

00:15:35.000 What makes America exceptional, and it would be true whether we were poor or whether we were rich, what makes America, it happens that because of these values, we are rich, but Trump doesn't understand that.

00:15:43.000 What makes America exceptional is the basic idea that government is there to protect your rights, but not to violate them.

00:15:49.000 And that as soon as government violates your rights, it loses all ability to be government, and that that violation of rights is unjustified under natural or godly law.

00:15:58.000 That's the basic idea of American exceptionalism.

00:16:00.000 That you have inalienable rights as a human being, as expressed in the Declaration of Independence.

00:16:04.000 You can't get rid of them.

00:16:05.000 There's no way to get rid of them.

00:16:06.000 And if government violates those rights, government has done something deeply wrong.

00:16:10.000 And in order to preserve those rights, we've instituted a system of checks and balances so that the government cannot become overweening and violate your ability to live as you see fit.

00:16:18.000 That's what makes America exceptionalism.

00:16:20.000 Not rich!

00:16:21.000 Not richness.

00:16:21.000 Not wealth.

00:16:22.000 There have been plenty of wealthy empires in history.

00:16:24.000 Lots of them.

00:16:25.000 The Roman Empire.

00:16:26.000 The British Empire.

00:16:27.000 The Chinese now are gaining wealth.

00:16:29.000 That does not make them exceptional.

00:16:31.000 What makes us exceptional is the ideas behind the Declaration of Independence.

00:16:34.000 We're the only country in history founded on an idea.

00:16:37.000 Not founded just on borders, not founded just because we're there, but founded on an actual idea.

00:16:42.000 And that's an amazing thing, that's what makes us unique, but Trump doesn't understand that.

00:16:46.000 Trump thinks the only thing that would make us unique is if we're rich.

00:16:49.000 And the people here, we're unique because we're here.

00:16:51.000 And this leads to this sort of nativism and this idea that only he personally can make America great again.

00:16:56.000 When he says make America great again, he doesn't mean return to founding principles.

00:16:59.000 He means make us economically powerful again, and you should have unlimited power to do that.

00:17:04.000 You should have unlimited power to do that.

00:17:06.000 Which is why Mitch McConnell is out there, even Mitch McConnell who now endorses him, is out there saying things like, Donald Trump has to learn not to be a dictator.

00:17:13.000 That's scary stuff, right?

00:17:15.000 I mean, that's truly frightening stuff.

00:17:17.000 That's what Mitch McConnell was saying.

00:17:18.000 But it's also why Donald Trump is happy to threaten people.

00:17:21.000 It's why when people say he's a proto-fascist, like Andrew Klavan says he's a proto-fascist, it springs from this idea, right?

00:17:26.000 The only way to make America great again is to hand him ultimate power.

00:17:29.000 America's ideals aren't great.

00:17:30.000 Only America is great in competition with others.

00:17:33.000 He says, I want to take back everything we gave to the world.

00:17:35.000 What, you mean like freedom?

00:17:36.000 Would you like to take that back?

00:17:38.000 Would you like to take back World War II, where we granted Europe freedom?

00:17:41.000 Would you like to take back the Cold War, where we granted half the world freedom?

00:17:44.000 Would you like to take all that back?

00:17:46.000 This is scary stuff, folks, and it doesn't get better just because Trump is saying it.

00:17:49.000 This is what I hate about the Trump movement.

00:17:51.000 I've been saying it all along.

00:17:53.000 Trump, backing Trump, is going to pervert conservatism.

00:17:55.000 And it's not if Trump wins.

00:17:57.000 It's the movement itself is perverting conservatism.

00:17:59.000 And this is what's happening, in real time, every day, right now.

00:18:02.000 People are going to look at this, and if Obama had said this, they would have said, this is egregious, this is unpatriotic, it's un-American.

00:18:08.000 Trump says it?

00:18:09.000 Well, you know, nothing really makes America great.

00:18:12.000 Nothing makes America great.

00:18:14.000 Its ideas don't make America great.

00:18:15.000 And Trump says that in order to exercise this power, he basically needs to be able to intimidate anyone.

00:18:20.000 So David French, who announced yesterday he's not going to be running for president, which makes me sad.

00:18:24.000 I would have gladly voted for David French, the columnist for National Review.

00:18:28.000 Trump apparently had his surrogates or supporters threaten David French's wife.

00:18:33.000 And this is okay with everybody.

00:18:34.000 Here's David French on MSNBC explaining.

00:18:36.000 So was that someone from the Trump campaign you said called someone from your wife's family?

00:18:40.000 I identified, they identified themselves as someone affiliated with the Trump campaign who had been told to call, you know, a member of my, they tracked down a member of my wife's family in Tennessee while all of this is going on.

00:18:52.000 And I, you know, I only learned about it later.

00:18:55.000 It, you know, I... Did you consider that a threat?

00:18:58.000 I considered it a ham-handed effort to intimidate.

00:19:02.000 Ham-handed effort to intimidate, they're calling his wife and threatening people.

00:19:04.000 It's just, it's amazing.

00:19:06.000 And that's okay with the Trump people.

00:19:07.000 Because we need someone tough.

00:19:08.000 We need to make America great again.

00:19:11.000 Again, what makes America great is the principles that you guys are discarding.

00:19:13.000 This is why people say, well, we don't need an ideologue.

00:19:16.000 No, we do.

00:19:16.000 We need an ideologue on behalf of what made America great in the first place.

00:19:20.000 We don't need someone to come along and say, all power vested in me will make your life great again.

00:19:24.000 That is un-American.

00:19:26.000 Forget un-American.

00:19:26.000 It's not conservative.

00:19:28.000 Forget not conservative.

00:19:28.000 It's not right.

00:19:29.000 It's not moral.

00:19:30.000 And it's not true.

00:19:31.000 That's what really the problem is.

00:19:33.000 So, that being said, it doesn't matter.

00:19:35.000 What's happening is the perversion of the conservative movement.

00:19:38.000 You're watching as people get sucked into the gaping maw of Trumpism, and it's like the Sarlacc in Return of the Jedi.

00:19:44.000 I mean, they're just falling in there, and it doesn't matter.

00:19:48.000 They thought they were allied with the Sarlacc, right?

00:19:50.000 I mean, Jabba thought he was allied with the Sarlacc.

00:19:51.000 Didn't matter.

00:19:52.000 All the people are falling off of Jabba's ship right into the middle of the Sarlacc, right?

00:19:55.000 He's just eaten all of them.

00:19:58.000 And that weird tongue thing is snaking around people's legs and dragging them down, right?

00:20:03.000 Donald Trump is dragging everybody down.

00:20:06.000 So in the last week, what that's meant is his Mexican comment, right?

00:20:09.000 You can't be a judge on his case if you're Mexican.

00:20:11.000 It turns out, not only can you not be a judge on his case if you're Mexican, you also can't be a judge on his case if you're a woman.

00:20:16.000 So Katrina Pierson, who is his spokeswoman,

00:20:19.000 She's asked, okay, Trump says Mexican judges will be mean to him.

00:20:24.000 Does this also hold true of female judges?

00:20:26.000 And here's Katrina Pierson just sticking her face right in the mud pie that is the Trump campaign.

00:20:31.000 Here she is.

00:20:32.000 You know Donald Trump's sister is a federal judge in New York.

00:20:36.000 If somebody were to say to her she was biased in regards to some sort of case because she's a woman, that would be awful, wouldn't it?

00:20:47.000 Well, it would depend on her past and decisions that she's made as a judge.

00:20:51.000 There is no question that there are activist judges in this country.

00:20:55.000 CNN gives a platform to Black Lives Matter and their entire premise is injustice in the system due to racism.

00:21:02.000 Okay, so she says there sort of what she means, which is maybe women judges are going to be biased too.

00:21:07.000 So basically, identity politics all the way through.

00:21:09.000 Maybe female judges won't like Donald Trump either.

00:21:12.000 Now, that's not totally what she's saying.

00:21:13.000 She's sort of saying there could be situations in which being a female biased you.

00:21:18.000 Why?

00:21:18.000 I mean, this is identity politics at its finest.

00:21:20.000 Donald Trump even is trying to walk this back a little bit, but it's too little too late.

00:21:24.000 Here's Donald Trump now saying he doesn't care if the judge was Mexican after spending a week saying he cares if the judge is Mexican.

00:21:30.000 She has a tape of her saying great things, and she has a written statement signed by her saying great things.

00:21:36.000 And the judge dismissed her from the case, but left the case stand.

00:21:39.000 We thought we were going to win the case.

00:21:40.000 I don't care if the judge is Mexican or not.

00:21:42.000 I'm going to do great with the Mexican people, because I provide jobs.

00:21:44.000 So I don't care about Mexican.

00:21:46.000 But we're being treated very unfairly, Bill.

00:21:48.000 Very, very unfairly.

00:21:49.000 Okay, and so he says he doesn't care whether the judge is Mexican anymore.

00:21:53.000 Now, the media are totally on the attack against Trump now, because now they're unleashing the beast.

00:21:58.000 The problem I have, and this is what makes me so sad about all of this, it makes me so sad, the media are despicable.

00:22:04.000 I played you that clip of the questions they were asking Hillary Clinton.

00:22:06.000 Oh, Hillary, how historic is it that you're gonna be the nominee?

00:22:10.000 Does this make you more or less historic than Jesus?

00:22:13.000 Are you actually going to ascend to heaven after you become president?

00:22:16.000 Or will we have to wait till you're on your deathbed?

00:22:19.000 And then you'll bless us and God will kiss you and take your soul like you did to Moses.

00:22:22.000 How exactly is all this going to go?

00:22:24.000 Will you get on a chariot like Elijah and rise to heaven?

00:22:28.000 That's how they ask questions to Hillary Clinton.

00:22:30.000 And then they attack Donald Trump.

00:22:31.000 Right?

00:22:32.000 And so the double standard is there, and the double standard is terrible.

00:22:34.000 There's only one problem.

00:22:35.000 When they attack Donald Trump, I can't stop it, folks.

00:22:38.000 I can't stop it, because these attacks are legit.

00:22:40.000 These attacks are legit.

00:22:41.000 It's illegitimate that they're defending Hillary Clinton, but it's totally legit the way they're going after Donald Trump.

00:22:46.000 Now, it doesn't mean that they're not hypocrites, right?

00:22:49.000 Joe Scarborough is a perfect example of a hypocrite.

00:22:51.000 Here's Joe Scarborough on MSNBC today saying that the Republican Party really has to call out Donald Trump.

00:22:58.000 It's imperative that they call out Donald Trump on this Mexican judge thing.

00:23:01.000 Republicans in Washington, D.C., right now you're letting your presumptive nominee, who is making racist statements, run roughshod over what remaining national reputation we have as a national party?

00:23:14.000 You have to start calling him out today.

00:23:18.000 This is not where you can do the slow boil.

00:23:20.000 You have to start calling him out and saying you're going to retract your endorsement of him today.

00:23:27.000 Or else the United States Senate is in danger.

00:23:30.000 Kelly Ayotte's seat is in danger.

00:23:32.000 Rob Portman's seat is in danger.

00:23:35.000 Ron Johnson's seat is in danger.

00:23:37.000 Okay, so Scarborough's super ticked, he's super ticked off.

00:23:39.000 Okay, flashback to about a month ago.

00:23:41.000 Here's Joe Scarborough talking about how anyone ripping on Donald Trump, this is the flashback clip, anyone ripping on Donald Trump, it's hard to tell because he's wearing exactly the same outfit, is in the wrong here.

00:23:52.000 We all have to just accept Trump.

00:23:55.000 So few things are insulting to me, but what's insulting to me is you can't state politically obvious things, right?

00:24:03.000 Without people saying, oh, you're the tank for Trump, or oh, you're supporting Trump, or oh, no, no, no.

00:24:08.000 We just can actually look at the earth and see that the sun goes down and that it's actually not flat.

00:24:15.000 But there have been a lot of flat-earthers out there for nine months right now.

00:24:18.000 Yep.

00:24:19.000 Who've been writing stories in the mainstream media, writing stories non-stop that Donald Trump will never win.

00:24:24.000 He's a fool.

00:24:25.000 He's an idiot.

00:24:26.000 Then when it looks like he could win, he's a Nazi.

00:24:28.000 He's a fascist.

00:24:30.000 I think it was Robert Reich.

00:24:33.000 ...to Mussolini and Hitler and Stalin, which is pretty good.

00:24:37.000 You combine that, that's about 50 million deaths between them all.

00:24:41.000 I guess it's because... It's not funny, but it's a... No, I guess it's just because... I mean, you think about it, Donald Trump is still friends with Omarosa, which TV Guide once listed as one of the top 60 villains in television history.

00:24:53.000 Okay, Joe Scarborough, let me just say this to you.

00:25:16.000 Okay, this is absurd.

00:25:20.000 This is absurd.

00:25:21.000 Okay, Joe Scarborough a month ago was saying, you can't call him bad names.

00:25:24.000 Stop calling him bad names.

00:25:25.000 It's terrible.

00:25:25.000 Today, how dare you not call Donald Trump bad names?

00:25:28.000 You knew who he was all along, you terrible people.

00:25:32.000 This is the game the media been playing all along.

00:25:33.000 The game the media was, we're gonna suck you in by pretending that Donald Trump is an exception to our, let's kill the Republican rule.

00:25:39.000 And then, it turns out he's not an exception, he is the, he's the example par excellence.

00:25:44.000 He's the example par excellence of how we are going to tear somebody apart.

00:25:48.000 Watch Anderson Cooper rip apart Jeffrey Lord, who is a Trump campaign spokesman straight from, straight from the Tales of the Crypt.

00:25:56.000 Talking about this Mexican judge.

00:25:57.000 Here's Anderson Cooper who looks largely like a wolf husky and or Jamie Lee Curtis talking to Jeffrey Lord.

00:26:06.000 What's interesting about what you're saying is you're not talking about what Donald Trump said identifying this guy as Mexican when in fact he's not Mexican he's American born in Indiana and I mean Donald Trump is talking about his Mexican heritage impacting and determining how he can rule.

00:26:21.000 Correct.

00:26:22.000 Isn't that identity politics?

00:26:23.000 Correct.

00:26:24.000 Be correct, Anderson.

00:26:26.000 I'm talking about it because this is the issue.

00:26:29.000 This goes far beyond Trump University.

00:26:31.000 This goes to appointing people to the bench and having a legal system where everybody is supposed to be judged by their skin color or their ethnic heritage.

00:26:39.000 Donald Trump is simply picking this up and saying, OK, if that's the way you're going, then this guy should be on the bench.

00:26:45.000 OK, wait a minute.

00:26:46.000 Jeffrey, Jeffrey.

00:26:47.000 That is the most nuanced... And the Muslim comment that he made behind... That is the most... I mean, you're doing backflips here.

00:26:53.000 No, Anderson, I've been writing about this for ages.

00:26:56.000 He is identifying himself as a Latino.

00:26:57.000 Anderson!

00:27:10.000 Anderson, Anderson, the judge goes out of his way to identify himself as Latino.

00:27:16.000 The judge does it.

00:27:17.000 That's like saying a judge who's part of a Catholic organization or a Jewish organization.

00:27:22.000 Should Jewish judges not be allowed on the bench?

00:27:24.000 Muslim judges, which apparently they can't.

00:27:28.000 I am saying if they are belonging to organizations that are explicitly about race and bringing race into the judicial system instead of the Constitution, that's the problem.

00:27:40.000 And that has been going on for a long time.

00:27:42.000 Justice Sotomayor and her wise Latina remark is a class A example.

00:27:45.000 But again, you have no comments that this judge has actually made.

00:27:48.000 You're just linking him to what another, to a Latina judge.

00:27:53.000 Because what, they all think alike?

00:27:54.000 I mean, I don't understand.

00:27:55.000 It's the same philosophy.

00:27:56.000 This is the liberal philosophy writ large, and it's been for judges, period.

00:28:01.000 Giant fail.

00:28:02.000 Epic fail.

00:28:03.000 So he's trying to make the argument that I made in the introduction here, which is that leftists have been playing this game all along.

00:28:08.000 The problem is he's trying to justify Trump for doing exactly the same thing, and it just doesn't work, and the media is tearing people apart over this.

00:28:14.000 And you can see, the Republicans are now in full-on faceplant mode.

00:28:18.000 They've now realized, too late, that they are the wrong end of the human centipede here.

00:28:23.000 That Donald Trump's at the head, and that there's a whole line of people in that human centipede, and it's really horrifying.

00:28:30.000 That's what they are now beginning to realize.

00:28:32.000 There's a whole chain of people who are doing this now.

00:28:33.000 So Harry Reid comes out, he says, Mitch McConnell, who's the Senate Majority Leader, he's spineless for not standing up to Donald Trump.

00:28:39.000 I can't argue against this and Harry Reid is one of the worst people in the history of American politics.

00:28:45.000 Here's Harry Reid.

00:28:46.000 Senator McConnell and all congressional Republicans leaders have never taken a stand against Trump's vile rhetoric.

00:28:53.000 That's because the hate emanating from Trump's mouth reflects the Republican Party's agenda here in the United States Senate for the last seven and a half years.

00:29:02.000 The agenda that Senator McConnell himself promoted.

00:29:06.000 For years, Senator McConnell and other Republican leaders embraced the darkest elements within their party.

00:29:12.000 The Republican Party made anti-woman, anti-Latino, anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and anti-Obama policies the norm.

00:29:20.000 Trump is the logical conclusion of what Republican leaders have been saying and doing for the past.

00:29:43.000 Right?

00:29:44.000 Everything Trump does, you break it, you bought it, and now you own it.

00:29:47.000 Now you own it.

00:29:48.000 And watch Mitch McConnell try to run headlong from this.

00:29:51.000 Mitch McConnell tries to run so fast from this.

00:29:54.000 And again, the problem is that Mitch McConnell can only move at the speed of a turtle.

00:29:57.000 And so here is Mitch McConnell trying to run from this.

00:30:00.000 How do you react to the people who say that you, as the majority leader of the Senate, something you wanted and you got, and John Boehner, the Speaker of the House, that you two are, in large part, responsible, if you will, for the rise of Donald Trump?

00:30:22.000 My answer is that's nonsense.

00:30:25.000 ...responsible for the rise.

00:30:26.000 No, you are, because your specklessness in the face of Obama led people to get angry, and then they reacted to you by getting the guy who's out of the box and says crazy things, and then you backed him!

00:30:36.000 And then you backed him!

00:30:37.000 Right?

00:30:38.000 You can't say, I'm backing that guy.

00:30:40.000 Mitch McConnell is in this really awkward position now, because if he doesn't back Donald Trump openly, then Trump smacks him.

00:30:45.000 And this is exactly what happened, by the way.

00:30:47.000 Mitch McConnell came out, he condemned Trump's Mexican remarks, and the initial response of the Trump campaign was to rip on Mitch McConnell.

00:30:55.000 Right, this is the way that this works now.

00:30:57.000 You're now in the... I warned you, folks.

00:30:59.000 You get in the passenger seat with Trump, and Trump drives you toward that cliff, like in Rebel Without a Cause.

00:31:06.000 Okay, you're going over that cliff with him, whether you like it or not.

00:31:08.000 Doesn't matter how loud you scream at him.

00:31:10.000 Doesn't matter how often you tell him to turn that car around, or put it in reverse, or hit the brakes.

00:31:14.000 He ain't gonna do it.

00:31:15.000 You're in the car with him.

00:31:17.000 You're in the car with him.

00:31:17.000 Okay, you're on the Trump train, and it's headed for Eastwood Ravine, like in Back to the Future 3.

00:31:21.000 That's where we're going now.

00:31:23.000 And it's a little amusing, I gotta be honest.

00:31:24.000 It's a little amusing because there are two groups of people here.

00:31:27.000 One I feel a little bad for, one I don't.

00:31:28.000 The people I feel kind of bad for are the people who say, well, you know, Trump is, I didn't vote for him in the primaries, I opposed him in the primaries, now we're stuck.

00:31:36.000 What do we want, Hillary?

00:31:38.000 Okay, nobody wants Hillary.

00:31:39.000 Everybody thinks this is terrible.

00:31:41.000 Understood.

00:31:42.000 I feel bad for some of those folks.

00:31:44.000 Then there's the second group of people who are pushing Trump all along.

00:31:47.000 The Mike Huckabees of the world.

00:31:48.000 I don't feel bad for you one iota.

00:31:50.000 You own it.

00:31:51.000 I hope you enjoy this.

00:31:52.000 I don't feel bad for Mitch McConnell because Mitch McConnell could have come out in favor of Ted Cruz.

00:31:55.000 He didn't.

00:31:56.000 So couldn't Paul Ryan.

00:31:57.000 He didn't.

00:31:58.000 You all had the ability to try and come out against Donald Trump and instead you sat still and you sat on your hands because you didn't want to take people off.

00:32:05.000 And now here you are on national television having to answer questions about whether Mexicans should be allowed on the bench.

00:32:11.000 Not even Mexicans, Americans who are born in America and their parents happen to be of Mexican extraction whether they should be allowed on the bench.

00:32:17.000 And it's awkward for you, I understand.

00:32:19.000 But it's delicious for me.

00:32:20.000 Because you have this coming.

00:32:21.000 So here's Mike Huckabee, who is basically Trump's Igor at this point.

00:32:25.000 And he's got nothing going on in his life.

00:32:27.000 So he's saying that the establishment GOP, like Mitch McConnell, they can't stand in front of Trump.

00:32:31.000 They're just lucky we're not executing them.

00:32:34.000 Republicans did that.

00:32:35.000 And they're getting what they justly deserve.

00:32:37.000 They're getting spanked.

00:32:38.000 And they need to be happy they're only getting spanked and not executed.

00:32:42.000 Because there is seething rage out in the country for those who have fought

00:32:46.000 To help some of these guys get elected, and they get there, and they surrender to Obama, and people are sick of it.

00:32:52.000 And I think that's why we've seen the spirit of this election, and frankly Donald Trump gives me great comfort.

00:32:58.000 I tell people I don't have any hesitation going out there and genuinely supporting Donald Trump.

00:33:04.000 He doesn't have any hesitation whatsoever.

00:33:05.000 And by the way, anyone who opposes Trump should basically be executed.

00:33:08.000 So that's good stuff.

00:33:10.000 That's that's really, I think.

00:33:11.000 And by the way, in this interview, you can tell because he's not speaking.

00:33:15.000 The person he's talking to is Sean Hannity, the official press secretary for the for the Trump campaign.

00:33:19.000 Bill O'Reilly, who is the deputy press secretary for the Trump campaign.

00:33:22.000 He came out and he says that, you know, Trump says that this this this judge should be recused, should not be able to to be on this case because Trump says he's a Mexican and therefore now he's tainted.

00:33:33.000 Here's Bill.

00:33:33.000 Bill O'Reilly agrees with Trump.

00:33:35.000 He agrees with Trump.

00:33:36.000 In other words, Donald Trump says, I want this guy to recuse himself.

00:33:40.000 Note, Donald Trump's attorneys have not have not filed a motion for recusal because there's no basis for it.

00:33:45.000 Here's Bill O'Reilly saying the judge should recuse himself anyway, just because Trump wants him to recuse himself.

00:33:51.000 The Trump U case is certainly political to some extent, and it's a very high profile situation because of that.

00:33:59.000 Talking Points believes a judge should recuse himself.

00:34:03.000 Not because he did anything wrong.

00:34:06.000 He didn't.

00:34:07.000 But to eliminate any doubt as to the motivation in court rulings.

00:34:13.000 Oh my god.

00:34:13.000 There are plenty of federal judges that could immediately step in.

00:34:17.000 It is valid that some may see any recusal as caving to intimidation.

00:34:22.000 But stark justice

00:34:24.000 In a case this important, Trump's pardon upon any theoretical argument.

00:34:29.000 Okay, so Stark justice, by Stark justice he means what Donald Trump says, right?

00:34:35.000 Because Stark justice demands that a judge should not be removed from a case unless you have actual reason to remove him other than you don't like the color of his skin.

00:34:42.000 Right?

00:34:43.000 That's what stark justice would demand.

00:34:44.000 But here's Bill O'Reilly out there defending him.

00:34:47.000 Trump, by the way, is... You wonder why he's defending Donald Trump?

00:34:51.000 The reason he's defending Donald Trump is because Donald Trump and Bill O'Reilly are like this.

00:34:54.000 They're tight, right?

00:34:54.000 They have milkshakes together.

00:34:56.000 Trump actually was on O'Reilly's show last night, and he openly implied that O'Reilly had sent him questions before the interview to tell him what he was going to ask him about.

00:35:04.000 The Boston Globe yesterday writes that you pay men in your campaign a third more in salary than you pay women.

00:35:13.000 And this goes back to my theme that this is what you're going to be confronted with.

00:35:17.000 Number one, is that true?

00:35:18.000 Do you pay men a third more than women in your campaign?

00:35:22.000 The answer is no, and I just had it checked because I heard this was going to be a question.

00:35:26.000 I don't know.

00:35:26.000 I have a good source, and somebody said that this could be a question.

00:35:30.000 I just checked it, Bill, and the answer is no.

00:35:33.000 Okay, so I wonder why these defenders are defending him.

00:35:36.000 Megyn Kelly, who is back to going after Trump when he's being dishonest, which she's been doing for... She's the only one on Fox, or one of the few.

00:35:44.000 Bret Baier's been doing it.

00:35:45.000 There are a few others.

00:35:46.000 Dana Perino's been doing it.

00:35:47.000 Here's Megyn Kelly smacking Bill O'Reilly over this whole thing.

00:35:51.000 Even some pundits are demanding that Judge Curiel step down to eliminate doubts as to his motivations.

00:35:59.000 But that is not the way our system works.

00:36:02.000 Judges must indeed avoid conflicts of interest or the appearance of conflicts of interest.

00:36:07.000 But litigants do not get to create that appearance by vocally complaining about the judge.

00:36:13.000 Any litigant who moved to disqualify a judge based on his heritage would actually be sanctioned, punished by any court, and it's happened in the past, rightfully.

00:36:21.000 Moreover, if a litigant making a stink about a judge necessarily resulted in a conflict that would force the judge to step down, it would lead to chaos in our court system.

00:36:30.000 It would prejudice the other party who's not complaining or taking their licks, and would lead to more parties throwing fits in order to bounce judges off the case whose rulings they do not like.

00:36:39.000 Okay, so of course everything Megyn Kelly says right here is totally true.

00:36:42.000 This is all totally true, but it doesn't matter.

00:36:44.000 Now everybody's been forced between this rock and this hard place, and you can see it all over the news today.

00:36:49.000 Everybody is having to answer questions about Donald Trump's stupidity.

00:36:52.000 So, you remember when there was Todd Akin back in the 2012 election cycle?

00:36:56.000 And Todd Akin was this guy who was running for Senate in Missouri, and he made a comment about how if a woman was legitimately raped, or some- forcibly raped, I think was the language that he used, that she wouldn't get pregnant, that women have magical uteruses that reject rape sperm or some such nonsense, and everybody ran for the hills from him.

00:37:14.000 Oh my god, everyone's gonna be tired with this.

00:37:16.000 Imagine Todd Akin being a thousand times worse and running for president.

00:37:19.000 That's what you've got now.

00:37:20.000 So Jeff Sessions, who's on the Trump campaign, right, his immigration guy, he was just asked, like literally just a few minutes ago, he was just asked about these comments, and the exchange is pretty darn hilarious.

00:37:32.000 The exchange for Jeff Sessions, I'm gonna try and find the transcript here because it's pretty funny, it goes like this.

00:37:37.000 Senator, do you condone Donald Trump's comments about Judge Curio?

00:37:40.000 Answer, well he's answered that.

00:37:41.000 He's made a statement on it.

00:37:43.000 Question, but what do you think about it?

00:37:45.000 Answer, I don't have any statement on it.

00:37:46.000 He's answered that.

00:37:47.000 Question, do you think it was racist?

00:37:49.000 No response.

00:37:50.000 Okay, this is how these exchanges are gonna go.

00:37:53.000 All the way down the line.

00:37:54.000 Watch as Paul Ryan does the same thing.

00:37:56.000 Paul Ryan, he's had a rough week.

00:37:58.000 He came out last week and he endorsed Donald Trump, said, I'd back him for president.

00:38:02.000 Sure, I'd back him for president because he'll be better than Hillary Clinton.

00:38:05.000 And they need a press conference today and he's condemning Trump.

00:38:08.000 The comment about the judge the other day just was out of left field from my mind.

00:38:13.000 It's reasoning I don't relate to.

00:38:15.000 I completely disagree with the thinking behind that.

00:38:18.000 And so he clearly says and does things I don't agree with.

00:38:23.000 And I've had to speak up on time to time when that has occurred, and I'll continue to do that if that's necessary.

00:38:27.000 I hope it's not.

00:38:28.000 But at the end of the day, this agenda we're rolling out, which is our conservative principles and the policies that implement those principles, it is clear to me that we have somebody who is a willing partner in advancing these things.

00:38:43.000 And I know for darn sure Hillary Clinton is going to go in the opposite direction in every one of these things.

00:38:49.000 Okay, so he's trying to have it both ways.

00:38:51.000 Hillary will be worse than Trump, but Trump's a racist.

00:38:55.000 I mean, he's saying racist things.

00:38:56.000 He was asked, by the way, a follow-up, which was, you say he's saying racist things.

00:39:00.000 Is Trump a racist?

00:39:01.000 And he said, well, I don't want to go there.

00:39:02.000 So now you're in awkward land again, and you just can't escape awkward land.

00:39:05.000 Trump land is awkward land.

00:39:07.000 Abandon hope, all ye who enter Trump land.

00:39:09.000 That's basically where we are.

00:39:10.000 Mitch McConnell just came out moments ago and says it's time for Trump to stop attacking various minority groups.

00:39:18.000 All you people could have been part of a counter-movement.

00:39:20.000 You could have stopped him, and you didn't.

00:39:22.000 By the way, you still can, but now you're gonna piss off a vast swath of Republican voters if you stop him at the convention, which you still can.

00:39:29.000 It's still possible to do that, but...

00:39:32.000 That possibility is growing daily because Donald Trump can't stop himself.

00:39:35.000 He can't stop himself and he won't stop.

00:39:37.000 As we said yesterday, it's Donald Trump turned down for what?

00:39:40.000 And it's making it very, very difficult for anyone to defend him.

00:39:42.000 There's an ad that came out that's now been pushed out.

00:39:45.000 Well, before I get to that, I just have to, sorry, one quick thing.

00:39:48.000 The greatest offender of Donald Trump is, of course, Chris Christie.

00:39:51.000 And Chris Christie, after having that existential death stare as he endorsed Donald Trump, the one that Lindsey put dust in the wind from Kansas to, Chris Christie, as I've said before, has become Renfield to Donald Trump's Dracula.

00:40:05.000 And as long as Donald Trump keeps feeding him juicy tarantulas, he'll be out there a juicy...

00:40:11.000 Juicy custard-filled tarantulas.

00:40:13.000 Chris Christie will be out there defending Donald Trump, and it's just, this is so awful in every way for conservatism, for the brand, for the Republican Party.

00:40:21.000 Here is Chris Christie just making, I would say an enormous ass out of himself, but that would be underestimating his rotundity.

00:40:27.000 So here is Chris Christie.

00:40:29.000 I don't know the history of the Trump University case.

00:40:31.000 So I'm not going to get into speaking about all that.

00:40:33.000 I've said this before, that I know Donald Trump.

00:40:36.000 I've known him for 14 years.

00:40:38.000 And Donald Trump is 14 years.

00:40:40.000 And Donald Trump is not a racist.

00:40:41.000 And so, you know, the allegations that he is are absolutely contrary to every experience that I've had with him over the last 14 years.

00:40:50.000 And so we're going to end it there.

00:40:59.000 Congressman Ryan is entitled to his opinion, as is everybody else who has an opinion on this.

00:41:05.000 I've expressed mine, and if all we're going to do is talk about this, I'm going to get in the car and go back because I've given you my opinion.

00:41:11.000 You have other questions?

00:41:11.000 Was it a mistake?

00:41:16.000 I am not going to get into critiquing the campaign that we're in the middle of.

00:41:20.000 There will be plenty of times for post-mortem after the campaign is over, and you want to ask me about it then, that's fine.

00:41:25.000 But I'm not going to micro-analyze every bit of the campaign, because you know what?

00:41:29.000 The voters don't.

00:41:31.000 And what matters here is winning and losing, first and foremost.

00:41:35.000 And what matters here is where the country's direction will be after whoever wins the election.

00:41:40.000 Okay, we'll stop right there.

00:41:41.000 That is the key component, right?

00:41:42.000 What matters is winning and losing, first and foremost.

00:41:45.000 No, it turns out being a decent person matters more to me.

00:41:47.000 It turns out that not being a piece of crap matters more to me.

00:41:50.000 It turns out that you can still take the... It's awkward, but you're better off taking the Paul Ryan decision.

00:41:53.000 He said something terrible.

00:41:55.000 He's still better than Hillary.

00:41:57.000 You're better off taking that position if you're going to be Chris Christie than doing what Chris Christie is doing here.

00:42:00.000 And there are more Republicans doing what Chris Christie is doing here, making excuses for Trump, saying that what Trump does is okay because the left does it.

00:42:08.000 It isn't.

00:42:09.000 The perversion of conservatism is happening in real time because people have to feel good about backing their guy.

00:42:14.000 They can't just condemn him and then say he's still better than Hillary.

00:42:18.000 It puts them in an awkward political spot.

00:42:20.000 And so instead what they're doing is they're now forced to become full-time Trump defenders.

00:42:24.000 That is a full-on disaster area.

00:42:26.000 And again, this guy is basically indefensible.

00:42:29.000 I mean, there's a lot about him that is indefensible.

00:42:32.000 The only defense that he's better than Hillary?

00:42:34.000 That defense gets more and more awkward every time Trump opens his mouth.

00:42:38.000 There's an ad out from Priorities USA.

00:42:40.000 It's a Hillary Super PAC.

00:42:41.000 I hate Priorities USA.

00:42:42.000 It's disgusting.

00:42:42.000 They ran a Super PAC ad back in 2012 implying that Mitt Romney had fired somebody so that his wife would die of cancer.

00:42:50.000 This is the famous Joe Sopcich ad.

00:42:52.000 This is an ad that is devastating to Trump.

00:42:54.000 It's devastating to Trump.

00:42:55.000 And this is the problem, folks.

00:42:56.000 I get so many emails, why don't you talk more about Hillary?

00:42:58.000 Why don't you talk less about Trump?

00:43:00.000 Because Hillary is going to remain Hillary.

00:43:02.000 But you all don't have to remain Trumpians.

00:43:04.000 Okay, Hillary's gonna be Hillary.

00:43:06.000 She's gonna be just as snaky as she always was.

00:43:08.000 My dad always taught me, expect a snake to be a snake.

00:43:11.000 And I expect Hillary to be who Hillary is.

00:43:14.000 But I think it's vital that you, not Trump, you,

00:43:18.000 Make clear your disdain for somebody who does things that are immoral and bad, because if you don't, you're going to be smearing his candidacy all over your ideology, all over your principles, from American exceptionalism to racism, to what he said here.

00:43:31.000 This ad is a really good ad.

00:43:33.000 It's a really good ad because it points out something about Trump that really is egregious.

00:43:36.000 There's a defense to the ad, but Trump can't make it.

00:43:38.000 Here's the ad, and I'll tell you what should be the defense.

00:43:41.000 I remember being in the ultrasound room and finding out that our daughter was going to be born with a disability in spina bifida.

00:43:46.000 She was born 20 weeks later on Valentine's Day, and she is a total blessing in our lives.

00:43:53.000 Grace is the happiest child you've ever seen.

00:43:55.000 Despite all of her medical challenges, she brings out the goodness in each person.

00:44:00.000 That's what we see every day with Grace.

00:44:03.000 When I saw Donald Trump mock a disabled person, I was just shocked.

00:44:07.000 You gotta see this guy.

00:44:08.000 I don't know what I said!

00:44:10.000 I don't remember!

00:44:11.000 That reporter he is talking about suffers from a chronic condition that impairs movement of his arms.

00:44:17.000 The children at Grace's school all know never to mock her.

00:44:22.000 And so for an adult to mock someone with a disability is shocking.

00:44:28.000 When I saw Donald Trump mock somebody with a disability, it showed me his soul.

00:44:32.000 It showed me his heart.

00:44:34.000 And I didn't like what I saw.

00:44:38.000 Brutal ad.

00:44:41.000 Brutal ad.

00:44:41.000 There's no comeback from that ad.

00:44:43.000 Now, the normal comeback would be from any normal person who hadn't mocked the disabled.

00:44:47.000 The normal comeback would be, you're a Democrat, you like killing those kind of kids in the womb, right?

00:44:52.000 Kids who have spinal bifida, you recommend to parents that they abort.

00:44:54.000 That kid never would have gotten to live if it had been for Democrat rule.

00:44:58.000 But Trump can't make that defense because he's busy insulting people after they're born.

00:45:02.000 This is the problem with Trump.

00:45:04.000 Trump corrupts, and absolute Trump corrupts absolutely.

00:45:07.000 Okay, so that's the rule, and that's what we're watching right now, and it's so awkward for all of the people who are advocates for Trump, and I hope they enjoy it, because this is gonna be a long five months, gang.

00:45:17.000 It's gonna be a long five months.

00:45:19.000 And by the way, it ain't gonna let up.

00:45:20.000 Trump's gonna do this every day.

00:45:21.000 He's not gonna stop being Trump.

00:45:23.000 The media's not gonna stop being the media, and it's gonna be very hard to defend Trump from the media when they're saying true things about him.

00:45:29.000 We can attack the media for being dishonest with Hillary, but they're not being dishonest with Trump on this stuff.

00:45:34.000 And that's the problem.

00:45:35.000 The most dishonest people are still being honest about Trump.

00:45:38.000 They were dishonest about him before by ignoring all this.

00:45:39.000 The first time he said the Mexican judge stuff, by the way, was in February.

00:45:42.000 And the media completely ignored it.

00:45:44.000 Shocker!

00:45:45.000 He wins the nomination.

00:45:46.000 Boom.

00:45:46.000 It's top of the news.

00:45:47.000 Okay, it's time for Stuff I Like, and then a couple of things that I hate.

00:45:50.000 So, Stuff I Like.

00:45:51.000 I'm doing sports this week.

00:45:53.000 I'm a big sports fan.

00:45:54.000 In particular, I'm a big fan of baseball and basketball and football.

00:45:58.000 I wish I could get into hockey.

00:46:00.000 I think I got into it a little bit late.

00:46:01.000 It's fun to watch, but I don't know enough about it to really be a big fan.

00:46:04.000 But golf, tennis, I mean, I'm a big fan of all of these.

00:46:06.000 But baseball is my favorite sport, and so yesterday we did some boxing stuff.

00:46:10.000 I like boxing as well.

00:46:11.000 Here is the best baseball book.

00:46:14.000 More or less the best-selling baseball book probably ever written.

00:46:16.000 It's a book called Ball Four by Jim Bouton.

00:46:18.000 This book is R-rated.

00:46:19.000 It's totally R-rated, but it's the first of its kind.

00:46:22.000 It was a book that was written by Jim Bouton.

00:46:23.000 He was a fastballer for the New York Yankees, and he blew out his arm and tried to reinvent himself as a knuckleball pitcher.

00:46:31.000 And he came back and he wrote this memoir during his season where he pitched for the Seattle Pilots.

00:46:34.000 This is before the Seattle Mariners.

00:46:36.000 And then he pitched for the Houston Astros.

00:46:38.000 And it is hilarious.

00:46:39.000 It's R-rated.

00:46:39.000 It's really funny.

00:46:41.000 It kind of explodes the myths about baseball in some ways.

00:46:44.000 I love it.

00:46:46.000 It's a great bathroom book.

00:46:46.000 It's a really, really funny book.

00:46:48.000 He got basically banned by the Yankees organization almost for life because of this book, by the way.

00:46:52.000 So it's really good.

00:46:53.000 Also, in the baseball realm,

00:46:55.000 Going to watch a great baseball movie.

00:46:56.000 I think this is probably the best baseball movie ever made.

00:46:59.000 And there are a lot of good baseball movies.

00:47:00.000 And maybe we'll do another one tomorrow.

00:47:02.000 You know, the one that all guys know is the Men Crying movie.

00:47:06.000 We'll do that one tomorrow.

00:47:07.000 Men Crying baseball movie.

00:47:08.000 And every man within earshot knows what I'm talking about.

00:47:11.000 This is probably the best baseball movie of all time.

00:47:13.000 This one is 61 Billy Crystal.

00:47:15.000 This is a fantastic story, fellas.

00:47:17.000 Two Yankees playing in the house that Ruth built, both going after his record.

00:47:20.000 It's great for baseball.

00:47:46.000 Holy cow!

00:47:47.000 There it goes!

00:47:50.000 Maris comes over from Kansas City, first year with the team.

00:47:53.000 He beats Mickey out for the MVP.

00:47:54.000 You're telling me Manna wouldn't be pissed off that Maris doesn't have something to prove?

00:47:58.000 How about the home run record?

00:47:59.000 You think he got a shot at the bait?

00:48:00.000 I think if anybody's gonna do it, it's gonna be Mickey.

00:48:01.000 It's pretty amazing the guy can play at all, considering how much pain he's in.

00:48:05.000 Maybe if he took better care of himself, he wouldn't be injured so much.

00:48:08.000 It's a tough town not to have, I promise.

00:48:09.000 You can write what you want, Sam.

00:48:11.000 The fans love this guy.

00:48:12.000 They love him.

00:48:13.000 How come Maris never smiles?

00:48:14.000 He's having the season of his life and he looks like a zombie at it.

00:48:21.000 Number 7.

00:48:24.000 It says 80% of the fans are rooting for Mickey.

00:48:27.000 Well, I guess that seems right.

00:48:28.000 Yeah.

00:48:29.000 Why's that?

00:48:29.000 I don't know.

00:48:30.000 Maybe I'm not a New York kind of guy, Sam.

00:48:31.000 I'm just some dumb redneck from North Dakota.

00:48:33.000 As for the Eminem boys, I'm told there's a feud growing between them.

00:48:38.000 Are we feuding?

00:48:39.000 Yeah, I guess so.

00:48:41.000 It's on TV.

00:48:41.000 Yours.

00:48:42.000 God, there's a couple of huckleberries out there letting Roger know they don't want him to break Roots' record.

00:48:46.000 Can you believe this?

00:48:48.000 They're booing him in his own ballpark.

00:48:49.000 Why's it gotta be they've only got room in their hearts for one guy?

00:48:53.000 I don't know, sweetheart.

00:48:54.000 You guys are all over him, day and night!

00:48:56.000 A film by Billy Crystal.

00:49:14.000 We're good to go.

00:49:29.000 40% of people who are transgender or describe themselves as such will attempt suicide in their lifetime, as opposed to less than 2% of the normal population.

00:49:36.000 It's horrifying, it's terrible in every way.

00:49:39.000 So the newest video that is like this, there's this video that's being pushed by Teen Vogue magazine, because we have to recruit kids to this now.

00:49:45.000 It's being pushed by Teen Vogue magazine, and it's this little boy, he's 14 years old, and his parents have turned him into a girl, or they're trying to turn him

00:49:52.000 When I was little, I loved to play with dolls and play dress-up.

00:49:55.000 I loved painting my nails, too.

00:49:56.000 Wearing my mom's high heels was my favorite.

00:50:21.000 But only in the house, never outside.

00:50:26.000 Because I was born a boy.

00:50:31.000 I never had many friends, I didn't fit in with girls, and the boys made fun of me.

00:50:38.000 In fifth grade I was bullied so bad, almost every day I came home from school crying.

00:50:50.000 They would make up lies to try to get me in trouble.

00:50:56.000 One of the kids told me I should kill myself because no one liked me anyway.

00:51:02.000 He told me no one would miss me if I was dead.

00:51:08.000 They were so mean.

00:51:13.000 I just wanted to die.

00:51:14.000 Okay, by the way.

00:51:16.000 Transgenders, after surgery, want to die also.

00:51:19.000 So my parents took me out of school and homeschooled me.

00:51:23.000 I was so, so, so thankful.

00:51:28.000 I asked my mom if I could wear a dress and high heels to the store.

00:51:33.000 She said yes!

00:51:37.000 So I did and it felt amazing until...

00:51:42.000 A woman in the store started taking pictures of me with her phone.

00:51:50.000 Another lady was pointing and laughing.

00:51:51.000 Okay, it goes on like this, right?

00:51:53.000 And then the idea is that, we can stop it here, but, I felt like a freak, I felt like a misfit, and then I realized I saw Jazz Jennings on TV.

00:51:59.000 It's a documentary about a boy who thinks he's a girl, and his parents are making it, are treating this as normal.

00:52:06.000 Now Corey is happy and back in public school, writes Teen Vogue.

00:52:09.000 This time, she's at a school where her peers and teachers accept her.

00:52:11.000 She plays on the girls' soccer team and uses the girls' bathroom, just as she should.

00:52:15.000 Acceptance is so important.

00:52:17.000 Though 41% of transgender people will attempt suicide at some point in their lives, we know that support and love from their community can prevent this.

00:52:24.000 No, that's false.

00:52:26.000 That's not true.

00:52:27.000 Okay?

00:52:27.000 Support and love from the community would be making sure that people, kids particularly, who suffer from mental illness get treatment for the mental illness, they don't mutilate their bodies, and they don't put themselves in positions in school where kids are going to victimize them.

00:52:40.000 Okay?

00:52:40.000 It doesn't mean that kids should victimize kids ever, okay?

00:52:42.000 Bullying is against school rules.

00:52:45.000 But don't tell me that the parents aren't partially responsible for letting their kid go to school dressed as a girl and he's a boy.

00:52:50.000 If kids make fun, kids are mean, kids are nasty.

00:52:53.000 And the parents are mean and nasty for doing this to their kid.

00:52:55.000 And then to put their kid out there as though the kid is totally fine and should be a model for other kids.

00:53:04.000 The idea that kids are not malleable in their behavior is just ridiculous, and we all know this is true.

00:53:09.000 But it doesn't matter for the left.

00:53:10.000 The left only wants its...

00:53:12.000 It's version of reality.

00:53:14.000 It's significantly more important for them to have their version of reality than it is for actual reality to prevail, even if it means the kids suffer.

00:53:22.000 Okay.

00:53:22.000 Tomorrow we'll be back.

00:53:23.000 We'll give you some results of the California primaries.

00:53:25.000 Hillary will have locked this up, so we'll have pictures of Hillary dancing.

00:53:28.000 It'll be horrifying.

00:53:29.000 But I hope that you'll show up despite all the horrific campaigning and Hillary dancing up on ladies.

00:53:35.000 We have a gif of that one already.

00:53:36.000 So prepare thyselves.

00:53:38.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:53:38.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

Ep. 130 - Hillary Will Be The First Female Nominee, And Nobody Cares

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