The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 133 - Trump Gets It Right On 'Radical Islam'

00:00:00.000 While the left continues to maintain that the greatest threat to America's security is Donald Trump's political incorrectness, the reality is, of course, precisely the opposite.

00:00:08.000 The politically correct America promulgated by the left leads to Americans dying in horrific ways.

00:00:13.000 According to Florida Today, quote, A former Fort Pierce police officer who once worked with 29-year-old Omar Mateen, the assailant in an Orlando nightclub shooting that left at least 50 dead, said he was unhinged and unstable.

00:00:26.000 The guy's name was Daniel Gilroy.

00:00:27.000 He was a former Fort Pierce police officer

00:00:29.000 And he said Mateen frequently made homophobic and racial comments.

00:00:33.000 He said he complained to his employer, but it did nothing because he was Muslim.

00:00:36.000 Gilroy actually quit his job because Mateen began stalking him via multiple text messages, 20 or 30 a day.

00:00:42.000 He apparently also sent Gilroy 13 to 15 phone messages a day.

00:00:46.000 Apparently he talked of killing people.

00:00:48.000 As you recall, this follows hard on a similar story from the San Bernardino terrorist attack.

00:00:53.000 That's when CBSLA reported, quote, a man who had been working in the area

00:00:57.000 said he noticed a half dozen Middle Eastern men in the area in recent weeks, but decided not to report anything since he did not wish to racially profile those people.

00:01:06.000 So we're now two for two in our political correctness sweepstakes.

00:01:10.000 Or at least the terrorists are.

00:01:12.000 But Hillary Clinton continues to stump for political correctness. 1.00

00:01:15.000 On Sunday, Hillary said this, quote, Inflammatory anti-Muslim rhetoric, threatening to ban the families and friends of Muslim Americans, as well as millions of Muslim business people and tourists from entering the country,

00:01:25.000 That hurts the vast majority of Muslims who love freedom and hate terror.

00:01:30.000 I may disagree with Donald Trump's policy suggestions on immigration.

00:01:33.000 We'll talk more about that.

00:01:34.000 I think they're both too broad and too narrow.

00:01:36.000 They're too broad because we can screen some Muslims for entry to the United States, and they're too narrow because many of the Muslims who we are worried about are coming from non-Islamic countries. 0.99

00:01:45.000 I can disagree with those policies, but still recognize that Trump's rhetoric is far less of a problem than Hillary Clinton continuing to maintain

00:01:53.000 The people who speak out strongly against radical Islamic terrorism, quote, play into the terrorist's hands.

00:01:58.000 Blasting those who do so, that plays into the terrorist's hands.

00:02:01.000 Every time President Obama or Hillary complained about incidents like Ahmed Clockboy Bahamut, you remember that guy, brought a bomb, a clock that looked like a bomb to school, and then complained about it to the administration, the administration called the police, and then there's a big hubbub, they make it more difficult for everyday citizens to report incidents that end up being exactly the sort of red flags Democrats lament after terrorist attacks.

00:02:23.000 Listen, Donald Trump spoke the absolute truth when he said after the terrorist attack in Orlando, quote, We need to respond to this attack on America as one united people with force, purpose, and determination.

00:02:33.000 But the current politically correct response cripples our ability to talk and think and act clearly.

00:02:37.000 If we don't get tough and we don't get smart and fast, we're not going to have a country anymore.

00:02:41.000 This is true.

00:02:42.000 After the next terrorist attack, we're not going to hear about Trump's meanie musings.

00:02:45.000 We're going to hear about missed signals, reported incidents, politically correct throat clearing bureaucrats who refuse to follow up, and the bodies will continue to stack up.

00:02:53.000 That's what always happens when political correctness wins. 0.55

00:02:55.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:02:56.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:02:59.000 Okay, so here we are.

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00:03:35.000 Speaking of things that are not a lot of fun, I come back from break yesterday from Jewish holiday of Shavuot.

00:03:40.000 I come back and the world is on fire again. 0.97

00:03:43.000 49 people, most of them gay, maybe all of them gay. 0.86

00:03:47.000 And so we're gonna talk today about the three speeches that came out about this.

00:03:50.000 So there was Donald Trump's speech, then there was Hillary Clinton's speech, and there was Barack Obama's speech.

00:03:53.000 Why don't we actually start with the President of the United States?

00:03:56.000 Because that sets the background

00:04:17.000 With respect to the killer, there's been a lot of reporting that's been done.

00:04:20.000 It's important to emphasize that we're still at the preliminary stages of the investigation and there's a lot more that we have to learn.

00:04:44.000 The one thing that we can say is that this is being treated as a terrorist investigation.

00:04:52.000 It appears that the shooter was inspired by various extremist information that was disseminated over the internet.

00:05:06.000 All those materials are currently being searched, exploited, so we will have a better sense of the pathway

00:05:13.000 that the killer took in making a decision to launch this attack.

00:05:22.000 Okay, so there's a couple words that may be missing.

00:05:24.000 You may have noticed they're missing when President Obama speaks here.

00:05:27.000 Radical and Islam. 0.95

00:05:28.000 They're gone, right?

00:05:28.000 They don't exist.

00:05:29.000 My favorite part is when he says the shooter was inspired by various extremist information. 0.78

00:05:34.000 Various, you know, like he was just sitting around and turns out that there were a bunch of people who loved My Little Ponies and he was inspired by that to go shoot a bunch of gay people at a nightclub. 0.61

00:05:42.000 Or it's possible he was inspired by ISIS talk, especially since he identified with ISIS.

00:05:47.000 He apparently came out and said that he liked ISIS and that he wanted to do this in solidarity with ISIS.

00:05:51.000 He's not the only one.

00:05:52.000 Apparently, there's just breaking news.

00:05:54.000 There's a shooting at Walmart.

00:05:56.000 Somebody tried to hold hostages at Walmart.

00:05:57.000 He was shot by the police, and they found a letter in Arabic in his car.

00:06:00.000 Over in France, there's a guy who knifed two police officers to death.

00:06:04.000 He, too, said that he was a member of ISIS.

00:06:06.000 But none of this has to do with radical Islam.

00:06:09.000 And so President Obama, notice how

00:06:11.000 It does appear that at the last minute he announced allegiance to ISIL.

00:06:14.000 But there is no evidence so far that he was in fact directed.

00:06:37.000 Okay, so he says that, well, what we don't know yet, maybe they were part of, it's not clear they were linked to ISIL.

00:06:43.000 Okay, who cares?

00:06:44.000 Okay, none of this really matters.

00:06:46.000 In the end, all that really matters

00:07:06.000 The fact that this guy was, he grew up in America.

00:07:08.000 Apparently his dad, it turns out, had significant terror ties.

00:07:11.000 He was somebody who's a fan of the Taliban.

00:07:14.000 His son had ties to a terrorist who went and fought for the Al-Qaeda in Syria.

00:07:19.000 He was investigated by the FBI routinely.

00:07:22.000 The FBI checked him out in 2013 and let him go.

00:07:24.000 So that makes three terrorist suspects in a row.

00:07:26.000 The FBI has failed to stop.

00:07:28.000 So that would be Tsarnaev, that would be the Fayed Farouk, the guy in San Bernardino and his wife.

00:07:36.000 And now this guy, the FBI, checked them out and let them go.

00:07:39.000 But President Obama doesn't really care about all of this.

00:07:41.000 He doesn't really care about all of this.

00:07:42.000 What President Obama really cares about, what he really cares about, is the gun.

00:07:46.000 What he really cares about is the gun.

00:07:48.000 And you'll see why this is going to lead Donald Trump to say what Donald Trump is going to say in a minute, and why Hillary Clinton is going to say what Hillary Clinton says in a minute.

00:07:55.000 So, President Obama says that, yes, this guy may have had connections to ISIS, or at least he liked ISIS, but the real issue is the weapon.

00:08:05.000 He continues.

00:08:07.000 As far as we can tell right now, this is certainly an example of the kind of homegrown extremism that all of us have been so concerned about for a very long time.

00:08:21.000 It also appears that he was able to obtain these weapons legally because he did not have a criminal record that in some ways would prohibit him from purchasing these weapons.

00:08:34.000 It appears that one of those weapons he was able to just carry out of the store, an assault rifle, a handgun, a Glock, which had a lot of clips in it.

00:08:50.000 He was apparently required to wait for three days under Florida law.

00:08:58.000 But it does indicate the degree to which it was not difficult for him to obtain.

00:09:03.000 Okay, so he says that it was too easy for them to obtain these kinds of weapons.

00:09:08.000 That's the problem.

00:09:08.000 It was too easy for people to get weapons.

00:09:11.000 And this is the Democratic talking point.

00:09:13.000 So in Game of Thrones, there's a character named Hodor.

00:09:15.000 And all Hodor can say, or there was a character named Hodor, all Hodor can say is, Hodor!

00:09:20.000 Okay?

00:09:21.000 That's all Democrats can say.

00:09:23.000 When a terrorist attack occurs and a gun was used, all they can say is, gun control.

00:09:27.000 Take somebody's weapon.

00:09:28.000 Take my weapon.

00:09:29.000 Somebody's weapon has to be taken.

00:09:31.000 And you can hear

00:09:32.000 The sort of rage he has against the NRA is significantly stronger than the anger he has against radical Islamic terror. 0.65

00:09:38.000 Which, by the way, he reinforced today.

00:09:40.000 He did a press conference in which he said he doesn't even see the purpose of saying radical Islamic terror.

00:09:44.000 This is all just a talking point.

00:09:46.000 It's all just a talking point.

00:09:47.000 It's just something people say, they spout it, because they don't have a real strategy.

00:09:52.000 We'll explain in a second why it matters to say radical Islamic terror, but first, President Obama won't do it.

00:09:56.000 Here's the last Obama clip, the one where he talks about the NRA.

00:09:59.000 The fact that we make it this challenging for law enforcement, for example, even to get alerted that somebody who they are watching has purchased a gun.

00:10:25.000 And if they do get alerted, sometimes it's hard for them to

00:10:29.000 We're good to go.

00:10:58.000 If you talk about terrorism, then people say, why aren't you looking at issues of gun control?

00:11:06.000 The point is, is that if we have self-radicalized individuals in this country, then they are going to be very difficult, oftentimes, to find ahead of time.

00:11:25.000 Okay, so he says it's hard to find them ahead of time, and it's hard to find them, but it's easier to track the guns. 0.99

00:11:29.000 This is just stupid on every level. 0.99

00:11:32.000 The Israelis are very good at stopping terrorism. 1.00

00:11:34.000 Even they can't stop every terrorist attack.

00:11:36.000 What they can do is have people who are willing to shoot the terrorists, and this is what's happened in the last few terrorist attacks in Israel.

00:11:41.000 Knife attacks, there are civilians, people who pull out guns and shoot the attackers.

00:11:45.000 Okay, in this particular case, you had a crowded nightclub, 2 a.m., and the guy opens fire.

00:11:50.000 Apparently, he had to reload several times, and no one there had a gun.

00:11:54.000 Nobody there had a gun.

00:11:55.000 And I can tell you this, as an Orthodox Jew, I live in Los Angeles, and as an Orthodox Jew, I have to consider every Sabbath whether I want to illegally carry my 9mm Glock handgun, or whether I prefer to obey the law.

00:12:08.000 And this is a consideration a lot of people are going to have to make in cities where it's difficult to carry openly or carry concealed.

00:12:16.000 They're going to have to determine whether they trust the government to keep them safe, because the pitch here seems to be, we're not going to keep you safe from radical Islam, we can't identify them ahead of time,

00:12:24.000 But if you hand over your guns to us, then we'll keep you safe.

00:12:28.000 So in other words, you'll keep me just as safe as you kept the gay folks at this LGBT bar if I hand you my guns? 0.91

00:12:35.000 Sorry, gang, not going to happen. 0.92

00:12:37.000 Sorry, gang, it's not happening.

00:12:39.000 Now, President Obama, as I say, he's very upset with Donald Trump because Donald Trump has called him out for not saying the words radical Islamic terror.

00:12:46.000 He hasn't said radical Islamic terror.

00:12:48.000 And because he hasn't said radical Islamic terror, President Obama says, well, what does that matter?

00:12:51.000 Here's how it matters.

00:12:53.000 The reason it matters is because we believe that what you say publicly reflects how you feel privately.

00:12:57.000 This is why words matter.

00:12:59.000 And we believe that what you feel privately reflects what you are going to do in terms of policy.

00:13:06.000 So, if you refuse to say radical Islamic terror, we assume that you don't think radical Islamic terror is a problem, and we also assume that the policies that you pursue are going to reflect your feelings.

00:13:15.000 This is certainly true of President Obama, who's spending all of his time

00:13:18.000 On massive gun control, while handing nuclear weapons to Iran, while doing nothing about the rise of ISIS, while doing nothing about the domination of the region by terrorists, while blaming Israel for terrorism.

00:13:31.000 Yes, of course, radical Islam and using the word matters when it's not clear who you think the enemy is.

00:13:35.000 President Obama says, I know who the enemy is.

00:13:38.000 According to you, it's guns.

00:13:39.000 According to you, it's guns.

00:13:40.000 Okay, so, with Obama as backdrop, let's now contrast, compare and contrast the two candidates.

00:13:47.000 Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

00:13:49.000 These are the two people who we've been given.

00:13:51.000 Unfortunately, Donald Trump gave what I thought was the best speech of his candidacy over this particular issue.

00:13:57.000 And I'm going to point out where I think there are flaws because I don't think it's a perfect speech.

00:14:00.000 I think there are problems when it comes to policy.

00:14:02.000 But as I've said before, Donald Trump is a good diagnostician and he's a terrible doctor.

00:14:06.000 Okay.

00:14:07.000 What that means is a good diagnostician.

00:14:09.000 You go in, you say, my, I'm not feeling good.

00:14:11.000 And the doctor looks at you, does all the tests and figures out, Oh, I'm sorry to tell you this.

00:14:16.000 You have cancer.

00:14:17.000 Here are the options.

00:14:18.000 We can do surgery.

00:14:19.000 We can give you chemo.

00:14:20.000 There's some experimental drugs you could try.

00:14:22.000 Right, that's what a good doctor does. 0.60

00:14:23.000 They give you the diagnosis and then they give you some possible solutions.

00:14:27.000 Donald Trump is good with diagnosis.

00:14:29.000 He hits the diagnosis on the head a lot of the time. 0.98

00:14:31.000 The problem is that he then prescribes that you hit yourself in the face with a hammer. 0.94

00:14:35.000 Here's the issue, though. 0.66

00:14:36.000 If the doctor who you're talking to happens to be Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama,

00:14:41.000 They refuse to even make the diagnosis.

00:14:42.000 They just pretend it doesn't exist.

00:14:45.000 They just pretend it doesn't exist.

00:14:46.000 Now the thing about Trump is you could get the diagnosis from Trump and then hope that maybe Trump will talk with some other doctors.

00:14:52.000 Maybe Trump will find somebody who knows the solutions better than he does.

00:14:55.000 Maybe you can use Trump's diagnostic skill and then go find solutions from another doctor, maybe elect a third party candidate.

00:15:02.000 But what he's saying is much more correct than what Hillary and Obama are saying.

00:15:06.000 So Trump gives this speech right after. 1.00

00:15:08.000 It's accompanied by all of Trump's usual stupidities. 0.99

00:15:11.000 So Trump tweets out right after this attack happens. 0.99

00:15:13.000 He says, thanks for the congrats in terms of calling this ahead of time.

00:15:17.000 Okay.

00:15:18.000 That's so self-centered and inappropriate after a shooting.

00:15:20.000 But what Trump actually says in this speech, you can't argue with it because he's totally correct.

00:15:24.000 So here's Donald Trump talking about political correctness and how it's prevented us from fighting terrorism.

00:15:30.000 We need to respond to this attack on America as one united people, with force, purpose, and determination.

00:15:39.000 But the current politically correct response cripples our ability to talk and to think and act clearly.

00:15:47.000 We're not acting clearly.

00:15:50.000 We're not talking clearly.

00:15:53.000 We've got problems.

00:15:55.000 If we don't get tough, and if we don't get smart and fast,

00:16:01.000 We're not going to have our country anymore.

00:16:05.000 There will be nothing, absolutely nothing left.

00:16:09.000 Okay, this is what people are thinking. 0.70

00:16:10.000 So Trump is expressing it in a way that I think is silly, but what he is saying is right.

00:16:16.000 What he is saying is 100% absolute truth. 0.95

00:16:18.000 When he says, our current politically correct response kills us, as I said in the intro, people knew that this guy was bad news, but when they reported it, nobody wanted to do anything because he was Muslim. 0.99

00:16:28.000 This is how political incorrectness

00:16:30.000 The killer, whose name I will not use or ever say, was born an Afghan, 1.00

00:16:50.000 of Afghan parents who immigrated to the United States.

00:16:54.000 His father published support for the Afghan Taliban, a regime which murders those who don't share its radical views.

00:17:03.000 And they murdered plenty.

00:17:05.000 The father even said he was running for president of Afghanistan.

00:17:10.000 The bottom line is that the only reason the killer was in America in the first place was because we allowed his family to come here.

00:17:19.000 That is a fact, and it's a fact we need to talk about.

00:17:23.000 We have a dysfunctional immigration system, which does not permit us to know who we let into our country, and it does not permit us to protect our citizens properly. 0.83

00:17:37.000 Okay, this is totally cr- Okay, so there's one thing he says here that's not true.

00:17:40.000 It's not factually true.

00:17:41.000 This guy was not born in Afghanistan.

00:17:42.000 He was born in the United States to Afghan parents.

00:17:44.000 His father was a supporter of the Afghan Taliban.

00:17:47.000 He's talked about running for president of Afghanistan.

00:17:49.000 The only reason is because we allowed his family to come here.

00:17:52.000 And this is a real problem, folks.

00:17:53.000 It's a real problem.

00:17:54.000 This is why for all of my anti-Trump rhetoric, for all the things I've said about Trump, the one thing that I haven't really argued with is the idea that we have to get stronger in immigration.

00:18:03.000 Of course, this is true.

00:18:04.000 I was arguing strong on immigration long before Trump was. 0.83

00:18:06.000 Hey, the idea of building a wall, the idea of heightened screening for people who are coming from Muslim majority countries, the idea of heightened screening for Muslims who are coming to the United States because Islam is in fact an indicator of Islamic terror. 0.99

00:18:18.000 That doesn't mean people can't get in.

00:18:20.000 It doesn't mean that we can't screen people.

00:18:22.000 It doesn't mean that we can't make sure that people are safe.

00:18:24.000 But it does mean that if you have a Swedish grandmother who's Presbyterian, you give her a different level of scrutiny than an 18-year-old Muslim coming from France or Afghanistan.

00:18:32.000 What he's saying here is totally correct.

00:18:34.000 We don't have to let people in.

00:18:36.000 There is nothing in the Constitution that says we have to let people in. 0.72

00:18:40.000 And Trump continues along these lines.

00:18:41.000 Now again, here's where Trump is a little wrong.

00:18:43.000 So Trump's diagnostic is correct.

00:18:45.000 And then his prescription is a little bit wrong.

00:18:47.000 Here's his prescription.

00:18:48.000 It's a little bit wrong.

00:18:49.000 I'll explain why.

00:18:50.000 I called for a ban after San Bernardino and was met with great scorn and anger.

00:18:56.000 But now, many years, and I have to say, many years, but many are saying that I was right to do so.

00:19:03.000 And although the pause is temporary, we must find out what is going on.

00:19:08.000 We have to do it.

00:19:10.000 It will be lifted, this ban, when and as a nation we're in a position to properly and perfectly screen these people coming into our country. 1.00

00:19:21.000 They're pouring in, and we don't know what we're doing.

00:19:25.000 The immigration laws of the United States give the President powers to suspend entry into the country of any class of persons.

00:19:33.000 Now, any class, it really is determined and to be determined by the President for the interests of the United States.

00:19:42.000 And it's as he or she deems appropriate.

00:19:46.000 Hopefully, it's he in this case.

00:19:57.000 I will use this power to protect the American people.

00:20:02.000 When I'm elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe, or our allies, until we fully understand how to end these threats.

00:20:19.000 After a full

00:20:22.000 We can stop it there.

00:20:22.000 So here's what he says, right?

00:20:24.000 So he mentions his San Bernardino Muslim ban, and people said this was stupid, including me, because it is stupid. 0.99

00:20:29.000 And then he says, the immigration laws of the United States give the president the power to suspend entry into the country of any class of persons the president deems detrimental to the interests or security of the United States. 0.99

00:20:39.000 Okay, that's true, but it's challengeable in a court of law.

00:20:42.000 So if you just say we're not letting anybody in who's black, right? 0.99

00:20:45.000 If you say we're not letting anybody in who's white, we're not letting anybody in who's Jewish, we're not letting anybody in who's Christian, 1.00

00:20:50.000 That will likely be challenged in court, and it'll be difficult for that to be upheld.

00:20:54.000 Now, his actual policy here, here's the problem.

00:20:56.000 He says he'll suspend immigration from areas of the world where there's a proven history of terrorism against the United States.

00:21:01.000 So, how about France?

00:21:04.000 How about France?

00:21:04.000 There's no proven history of terrorism against the United States in France.

00:21:07.000 How do we get a Muslim coming from France? 1.00

00:21:09.000 Well, this is where his policy is both too broad and also too narrow.

00:21:13.000 So, it's too broad in the sense that it says no Muslims can come in,

00:21:16.000 And it's too narrow in the sense that he's now targeting areas.

00:21:19.000 And the fact is that Muslims coming from Syria are actually less of a risk than Muslims coming from France or Britain in many cases, because you can be radicalized anywhere and there are major radical populations in the West.

00:21:29.000 Okay, that said, what he's basically saying is still in the realm of correct.

00:21:34.000 It's still in the realm of correct.

00:21:35.000 And then he gets to the part where he is 100% correct.

00:21:38.000 Here's the part, this is the best quote that he has the entire campaign.

00:21:40.000 Here's Donald Trump talking about radical Islam.

00:21:44.000 We cannot continue to allow thousands upon thousands of people to pour into our country, many of whom have the same thought process as this savage killer.

00:21:56.000 Many of the principles of radical Islam are incompatible with Western values and institutions. 0.98

00:22:10.000 Remember this, radical Islam is anti-woman, anti-gay, and anti-American. 0.98

00:22:23.000 I refuse to allow America to become a place where gay people, Christian people, Jewish people are targets of persecution and intimidation by radical Islamic preachers of hate and violence. 0.99

00:22:46.000 This is not just a national security issue. 0.95

00:22:49.000 It's a quality of life issue.

00:22:53.000 If we want to protect the quality of life for all Americans, women and children, gay and straight, Jews and Christians, and all people, then we need to tell the truth about radical Islam and we need to do it now. 0.98

00:23:08.000 Okay, we need to do it now is how he finishes that.

00:23:11.000 Yes, that is 100% correct.

00:23:12.000 Every word of that is correct. 0.98

00:23:14.000 Radical Islam is anti-gay. 0.99

00:23:15.000 It's anti-woman. 0.99

00:23:16.000 It's anti-freedom.

00:23:17.000 It's anti-American.

00:23:17.000 It's anti-Jew.

00:23:18.000 Radical Islam is an evil, nasty, terrible ideology. 1.00

00:23:21.000 And Trump is exactly right when he says this. 1.00

00:23:23.000 He's exactly right.

00:23:24.000 And the reason he's resonating is because Obama's Kevin Bacon routine from Animal House.

00:23:28.000 Nothing to see here.

00:23:29.000 Remain calm, everyone.

00:23:31.000 Everything's fine.

00:23:32.000 Just give us your guns and everything will be cool.

00:23:34.000 We're here to keep order.

00:23:35.000 You just tell us what you just give us all of your rights and we'll take care of you.

00:23:39.000 When Trump says you can't even name the enemy, yes, yes, 100 times yes, this is why Republicans are supporting Donald Trump.

00:23:46.000 This is why people are getting behind Donald Trump, and I fully get it.

00:23:50.000 I fully get it.

00:23:51.000 Now, does that mean that Donald Trump is a guy that they should get behind?

00:23:54.000 Yeah, I've been saying no, and the reason is because of all of his other flaws, and because Donald Trump can't control himself, and because this, I'm not sure, represents what Donald Trump will actually do.

00:24:03.000 But when we look at the diagnosis, it's impossible not to look at the diagnosis and say, that man is spot on.

00:24:08.000 He is 100% on the money.

00:24:09.000 What he says here is exactly correct.

00:24:12.000 What he says here is exactly correct.

00:24:13.000 And again, you know, if I don't support him, it's for the same reasons I wouldn't support Pat Buchanan, who says the same things that Donald Trump says, but that doesn't mean that Donald Trump isn't right on this issue.

00:24:23.000 He is 100% right on this issue.

00:24:25.000 And Donald Trump continues to be right on this issue.

00:24:27.000 And then he turns to attack Hillary Clinton.

00:24:30.000 So skip one clip and then it's,

00:24:32.000 The one that begins with Hillary Clinton.

00:24:33.000 Hillary Clinton, he attacks her and he says, look, I just called out radical Islam.

00:24:37.000 Hillary Clinton, she can't even say the words radical Islam. 0.99

00:24:42.000 Yet Hillary Clinton, for months, and despite so many attacks, repeatedly refused to even say the words, radical Islam, until I challenged her yesterday, and guess what?

00:24:55.000 She will probably say them, she sort of has said them, but let's see what happens.

00:25:01.000 She really has no choice, but she doesn't want.

00:25:05.000 She's really been forced, and she has been forced, to say these words.

00:25:09.000 She supports, and the reason is, she supports so much of what is wrong, and what is wrong with this country, and what's going wrong with our country and our borders.

00:25:20.000 She has no clue, in my opinion, what radical Islam is, and she won't speak honestly about it if she does in fact know.

00:25:29.000 She's in total denial.

00:25:31.000 And her continuing reluctance to ever name the enemy broadcasts weakness across the entire world.

00:25:39.000 True weakness.

00:25:46.000 I don't know if you know this, but just a few weeks before San Bernardino, the slaughter, that's all it was, a slaughter, Hillary Clinton explained her refusal to say the words, radical Islam.

00:25:59.000 Here is what she said, exact quote, Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.

00:26:09.000 That is Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:26:12.000 Okay, and that is exactly right.

00:26:13.000 He's totally right.

00:26:14.000 Again, the diagnosis is exactly right.

00:26:16.000 He goes on to say that Hillary wants to take away your guns. 1.00

00:26:19.000 They tried that in France.

00:26:20.000 That failed.

00:26:21.000 He talked about immigration policy and how the federal government refuses to turn over information on where Syrian Muslim refugees are going.

00:26:28.000 All this is 100% true.

00:26:30.000 All of this is 100% true.

00:26:32.000 And then he concludes by saying that he really is the friend of women in the LGBT community. 0.97

00:26:37.000 Because he says he doesn't want to allow radical Islamic terrorists to pour into the country who enslave women and murder gays. 0.65

00:26:42.000 He said, I don't want this in our country. 0.99

00:26:44.000 This is 100% true.

00:26:47.000 Again, this is the best thing that Trump has said during the entire campaign.

00:26:50.000 When he said during this campaign, I can't argue with this, nor would I, because it's true.

00:26:55.000 Okay, when Donald Trump says things that are true, I'm going to say he says things that are true.

00:26:58.000 And Donald Trump is saying things that are true right here.

00:27:01.000 He's saying, no, that doesn't mean he's not receiving an inordinate amount of criticism.

00:27:04.000 He is receiving

00:27:05.000 A tremendous amount of criticism.

00:27:06.000 He's receiving a lot of criticism from his fellow Republicans.

00:27:09.000 Bob Corker is very upset with him.

00:27:11.000 And there are a lot of Republicans who think that it's terrible, what he's saying.

00:27:15.000 Politico had an entire article this morning about it.

00:27:18.000 This is from Politico talking about the proposed ban on Muslim immigrants.

00:27:24.000 It says, Trump's terror response has Republicans fretting.

00:27:27.000 And what it says is, some have wondered whether he failed to harness a moment to elevate himself

00:27:32.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:27:33.000 Here's the thing.

00:27:33.000 I, again, have opposed his Muslim immigration ban.

00:27:35.000 I've said that it's too broad, and I've said that it's too narrow.

00:27:37.000 I've said that this is poorly calibrated.

00:27:39.000 That said, he looks a lot more palatable today than Hillary Clinton, because here's Hillary Clinton.

00:28:01.000 Hillary Clinton did her speech, contrasted with Donald Trump and Obama.

00:28:06.000 And what she said, what she said is basically, she started off with a few nice words about ISIS and fighting radical Islam, and she did use the words radical Islam, and then she moved fully into the category for the left of gun control.

00:28:18.000 In a second, I'm going to explain why it is that the left is so focused on gun control.

00:28:21.000 Why do they care so much about gun control?

00:28:23.000 Why does that seem to be the only thing that matters to them, gun control?

00:28:26.000 And why is it that the LGBT community is 1.00

00:28:29.000 Circling around the left that wants to import more radical Muslims to America radical Muslims who hate gays and want to murder them We'll explain that in one second. 0.97

00:28:37.000 Here's Hillary Clinton She says that we're gonna learn more about the killer in the days to come and then she admits that he had associations with Isis We will learn more about the killer in the days to come We know that he pledged allegiance to Isis that they are now taking credit for 0.97

00:28:56.000 And that part of their strategy is to radicalize individuals and encourage attacks against the United States, even if they are not coordinated with ISIS leadership.

00:29:11.000 Okay, and what she says there is true.

00:29:12.000 And then she continues along those lines, and she says, we know his motives, we know the barbarity of radical jihadists.

00:29:17.000 This is good language from Hillary Clinton.

00:29:19.000 And again, if she says something good, I'll call her on it.

00:29:21.000 Here's where she says something good.

00:29:23.000 Whatever we learn about this killer,

00:29:26.000 His motives in the days ahead, we know already.

00:29:30.000 The barbarity that we face from radical jihadists is profound.

00:29:36.000 In the Middle East, ISIS is attempting a genocide of religious and ethnic minorities. 0.94

00:29:44.000 They are slaughtering Muslims who refuse to accept their medieval ways. 1.00

00:29:49.000 They are beheading civilians, including executing LGBT people. 1.00

00:29:55.000 They are murdering Americans and Europeans, enslaving, torturing, and raping women and girls. 1.00

00:30:03.000 In speeches like this one,

00:30:06.000 After Paris, Brussels, and San Bernardino, I have laid out a plan to defeat ISIS and the other radical jihadist groups in the region and beyond.

00:30:19.000 The attack in Orlando makes it even more clear.

00:30:23.000 We cannot contain this threat.

00:30:25.000 We must defeat it.

00:30:27.000 Okay, all this is fine.

00:30:29.000 All this is good language.

00:30:30.000 All of what she's saying is fine.

00:30:31.000 Then she spends the last half of her speech, the last entire half of her speech, talking about what she really cares about,

00:30:36.000 And yes, if you're too dangerous to get on a plane, you are too dangerous to buy a gun in America!

00:31:02.000 Now, I know some will say that assault weapons and background checks are totally separate issues having nothing to do with terrorism.

00:31:12.000 Well, in Orlando and San Bernardino, terrorists used assault weapons.

00:31:19.000 The AR-15.

00:31:21.000 And they used it to kill Americans. 0.94

00:31:25.000 That was the same assault weapon used to kill those little children in Sandy Hook.

00:31:31.000 We have to make it harder for people who should not have those weapons of war.

00:31:39.000 And that may not stop every shooting or every terrorist attack, but it will stop some, and it will save lives, and it will protect our first responders.

00:31:52.000 And I want you to know, I'm not going to... This is a bunch of crap. 0.99

00:31:57.000 What she's saying right now is a bunch of crap. 1.00

00:31:58.000 And this is the problem. 1.00

00:32:00.000 She pretends that she's diagnosing the problem, and then she presents solutions that are even worse than Trump's.

00:32:05.000 Much worse than Trump's, right?

00:32:06.000 At least Trump knows who the enemy is.

00:32:08.000 Hillary thinks the enemy is the gun.

00:32:09.000 First of all, it wasn't even an AR-15 that was used in Florida.

00:32:12.000 It was a completely different type of gun.

00:32:14.000 Beyond that, it wouldn't matter if an AR-15 had been used in Florida.

00:32:17.000 Did we ban pressure cookers after the Boston bombing?

00:32:19.000 Did we ban knives in Israel after there were a bunch of stabbing attacks? 0.98

00:32:22.000 Okay, the idea that you can stop this sort of stuff from happening if I turn over my AR-15 to Hillary Clinton is ridiculous. 1.00

00:32:29.000 It's ridiculous. 0.97

00:32:30.000 So you have a bunch of unarmed people who get shot, and her answer is to disarm more people? 0.98

00:32:35.000 That's her answer?

00:32:36.000 Let's take the guns away from more people? 1.00

00:32:37.000 That'll fix everything?

00:32:40.000 But this is what Hillary Clinton thinks. 0.97

00:32:41.000 She thinks that taking away my gun is somehow going to make the world safer.

00:32:46.000 And by the way, her complaint here about the terrorist watchlist, this is such a nonsense argument.

00:32:50.000 The argument about terrorist watchlists is we don't let people on terrorist watchlists fly.

00:32:55.000 They don't know that until they try to fly.

00:32:57.000 The thing about terror watchlists is that

00:32:59.000 People don't usually tend to fly that often, unless they're, you know, people who travel a lot, like me.

00:33:03.000 Most people don't fly all that often.

00:33:05.000 Most people travel once, twice a year at maximum.

00:33:08.000 Most people actually don't even travel that much.

00:33:10.000 If you're on the Terror Watch List, you don't know it.

00:33:12.000 Okay?

00:33:13.000 The idea of the Terror Watch List, that we're gonna remove rights from you, because you got on a list that you can't get off of, and we have no evidence as to how you got on it, that's a little Orwellian, isn't it?

00:33:22.000 That's a pro- We still have rights in this country.

00:33:24.000 For the same people who argued that Edward Snowden was a hero, this is kind of weird language, isn't it?

00:33:29.000 That if you're on the terror watch list, we should take away your Second Amendment rights?

00:33:32.000 Hillary Clinton would go on to say that if you're under FBI investigation, we shouldn't allow you to have a weapon.

00:33:37.000 How about if you're under FBI investigation, we don't allow you to run for president?

00:33:40.000 She's under active FBI investigation right now.

00:33:44.000 Right now.

00:33:44.000 Today.

00:33:45.000 Right?

00:33:46.000 But she's saying that your rights should be removed if you're under FBI investigation, but her rights should not be curtailed in any way.

00:33:51.000 Listen, if the FBI has you, if the FBI is tracking you, if the FBI has surveillance on you,

00:33:57.000 Then the FBI presumably should be able to get enough evidence to do something to you.

00:34:00.000 In this particular case, they stopped policing this guy in 2013.

00:34:04.000 So let's say that it had gone the other way.

00:34:06.000 Let's say he lived another 40 years in the country without murdering a bunch of people at a gay nightclub. 0.97

00:34:10.000 And by the way, he was gay too, apparently. 0.96

00:34:13.000 Let's say that had happened.

00:34:14.000 Would it have been okay to ban guns from him then?

00:34:17.000 These demands, these policies that she's pushing make no sense whatsoever.

00:34:23.000 They make no sense whatsoever.

00:34:26.000 What Hillary then goes on to say, she says there's gun control is one of her policies and also we have to stop Islamophobia. 0.84

00:34:32.000 She says that we can't use language like Donald Trump's and she blathers about inflammatory anti-Muslim rhetoric being the real problem in America.

00:34:44.000 Inflammatory anti-Muslim rhetoric and threatening to ban the families and friends of Muslim Americans, as well as millions of Muslim business people and tourists from entering our country, hurts the vast majority of Muslims who love freedom and hate terror.

00:35:05.000 So does saying that we have to start special surveillance on our fellow Americans because of their religion.

00:35:14.000 It's no coincidence that hate crimes against American Muslims and mosques have tripled after Paris and San Bernardino.

00:35:24.000 That's wrong, and it's also dangerous.

00:35:28.000 It plays right into the terrorists' hands.

00:35:31.000 It plays right into- so Islamophobia is what creates terrorism? 1.00

00:35:34.000 What absolute horse crap, okay? 1.00

00:35:35.000 The fact is that Islamic terrorism, radical violence, has been endemic to Islam since the very beginning, okay? 1.00

00:35:41.000 Islam is a lang- is a religion of conquering. 1.00

00:35:44.000 And now radical Islam has metastasized into the West and it's turned into not even conquest, just murder. 0.99

00:35:50.000 I love the idea that inflammatory anti-Muslim rhetoric like saying radical Islam is bad.

00:35:55.000 And like saying we may have to take a closer look at the mosques that are being funded by the Saudi government.

00:36:00.000 Or like saying that we may have to take a closer look at Muslims entering the country than we would to Presbyterians entering the country. 0.86

00:36:06.000 This is what hurts us. 0.94

00:36:08.000 It hurts the vast majority of Muslims who love freedom and hate terror.

00:36:11.000 You know what hurts people more? 1.00

00:36:12.000 Radical Muslim bullets hitting them in the head in a gay nightclub in Orlando. 1.00

00:36:16.000 That's what hurts people more. 1.00

00:36:18.000 That's what hurts people more.

00:36:19.000 But this is Hillary's message, right?

00:36:21.000 Her message is that you have to have tolerance for radical Islam if you want the kind of country that she wants.

00:36:26.000 And that kind of country can tolerate radical Islam so long as nobody has a gun. 0.96

00:36:29.000 If we take the guns away from everybody, radical Islam is no more of a threat than anything else. 0.89

00:36:33.000 Everything is just totally fine.

00:36:34.000 Here's Hillary Clinton saying that what we need is e pluribus unum, right?

00:36:38.000 Out of many, one.

00:36:39.000 But she doesn't know what it means.

00:36:40.000 Here she continues.

00:36:42.000 E Pluribus Unum.

00:36:45.000 One out of many one has seen us through the darkest chapters of our history.

00:36:52.000 Ever since 13 squabbling colonies put aside their disagreements and united because they realized they were going to rise together or fall separately.

00:37:05.000 Generation after generation has fought and marched and organized to widen the circle of dignity and opportunity.

00:37:14.000 Ending slavery, securing and expanding the right to vote, throwing open the doors of education, building the greatest middle class the world has ever seen.

00:37:25.000 Okay, so she lumps this all into e pluribus unum.

00:37:28.000 What she really means is unum pluribus e, basically, that out of one, we should have many.

00:37:34.000 Because she doesn't mean that we should all have a common idea of freedom in common.

00:37:37.000 We shouldn't have that.

00:37:38.000 The only thing we should have in common is the government.

00:37:40.000 This is the slogan that President Obama pushed in 2012.

00:37:43.000 The only thing that unites us all is the government.

00:37:45.000 So we may not have common ideals of freedom, or religion, or decency, or not killing gay people at nightclubs, but so long as we're willing to hand over all power to the federal government, all is good. 0.92

00:37:55.000 So, what we get from the Democrats, and this is why Trump is rising, and this is why Trump deserves to rise, he deserves to rise right now, based on what he is saying, and we'll talk about whether he can continue this in a moment.

00:38:06.000 Donald Trump, he's saying the truth about radical Islam, there are certain ideas in America

00:38:11.000 There are certain ideologies in America, radical Islam is one of them, that we have to fight, that have to be fought, that are worthy of being fought. 0.99

00:38:18.000 Hillary, she thinks the only ideology worthy of being fought is conservatism, right? 0.98

00:38:23.000 Conservatives are her real enemies because we like guns and we think the government is not capable of solving all of our problems. 0.95

00:38:28.000 She wants gun control. 1.00

00:38:30.000 She wants gun control because gun control means that the government can establish us all as these kind of little widgets. 1.00

00:38:36.000 And she doesn't care about radical Islam, that doesn't bother her.

00:38:38.000 And the reason it doesn't bother her, the reason she worries about Islamophobia,

00:38:41.000 Is because she believes that what really motivates people is what the left believes.

00:38:45.000 What truly motivates people is not religion, is not deep-seated beliefs about the nature of the world.

00:38:52.000 What motivates people is materialism.

00:38:54.000 What motivates people is their lack of material well-being.

00:38:56.000 This is why President Obama, for example, said ISIS needs jobs.

00:39:00.000 Hillary thinks that the same thing that drives... Obama says this in his book.

00:39:04.000 The same thing that drives terrorism in Jakarta, Indonesia drives inner-city violence in Chicago. 0.62

00:39:08.000 This is absolute nonsense.

00:39:10.000 It's not true.

00:39:11.000 But Hillary thinks that it is, and so does Obama.

00:39:13.000 And so the answer?

00:39:14.000 Take the guns away from all of us, and it doesn't matter what we believe, because we can't kill each other.

00:39:17.000 Only the government can kill people then.

00:39:19.000 And then, presumably, radical Islam won't matter as an ideology, so long as we can have a socialist scheme where we redistribute wealth from the rich to the poor. 0.88

00:39:27.000 This is what Marxist materialism would suggest as the solution.

00:39:31.000 So here's what you have.

00:39:31.000 You have, on the one hand, a guy who says ideology matters in Donald Trump.

00:39:35.000 It's amazing to say Donald Trump is the guy who says ideas matter.

00:39:38.000 Ideology matters, according to Donald Trump.

00:39:40.000 Ideology doesn't matter, according to Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:39:42.000 All that matters is government control and redistributionism, and all will be well.

00:39:47.000 If that makes you comforted, take a look at Europe, because they've tried that, and it's been a total, total failure.

00:39:52.000 Now, can Trump keep this up?

00:39:53.000 Can Trump stay on message?

00:39:55.000 We'll talk about that a little bit more tomorrow.

00:39:57.000 First, things I like, and then a couple things I hate.

00:39:58.000 So things I like, continuing the sports theme from last week, over the weekend I had the chance to read Andre Agassi's autobiography, Open.

00:40:05.000 I grew up as somebody who really didn't like Agassi.

00:40:07.000 I thought that, like most people, I thought that he was

00:40:09.000 A showboat, I thought of the images, everything, stuff.

00:40:12.000 The autobiography is really moving and it talks about a guy who really had to struggle with personal demons and what it means to work hard to be great at something.

00:40:20.000 It's a really, really good book.

00:40:21.000 Really good sports autobiography.

00:40:22.000 One of the better ones that I've read.

00:40:23.000 Okay, things that I hate.

00:40:25.000 So, showing that Democrats have no, have just no concept of decency at all.

00:40:31.000 Paul Ryan is on the House floor and they hold a moment of silence for the victims in Orlando and Democrats start screaming directly through it.

00:40:38.000 Without objection, five-minute voting will continue.

00:40:47.000 The unfinished business is on the vote in the motion of the gentleman from Illinois, Mr. LaHood, to suspend the rules and pass H.R.

00:40:55.000 5312, unamended, on which the yeas and nays are ordered.

00:40:59.000 The clerk will report the title of the bill.

00:41:02.000 Okay, so Paul Ryan tried to hold a moment of silence.

00:41:16.000 Democrats shouted through it because we need gun control and we need it now. 0.79

00:41:20.000 Okay, gang?

00:41:21.000 This is the problem.

00:41:22.000 The entire left thinks that we are people who don't care about the deaths of innocents if we don't want to hand over our guns.

00:41:31.000 The fact is, we all care about the deaths of innocents.

00:41:32.000 The difference is that we believe that what motivates bad people is their ideas.

00:41:36.000 The left believe that what motivates bad people is that they are insufficiently willing to hand government power.

00:41:42.000 That's really what it comes down to.

00:41:44.000 Okay, final point here. 0.92

00:41:46.000 This show Hamilton, as I've talked about on Broadway, the cast of Hamilton did the dumbest possible thing in response to the Orlando attack.

00:41:52.000 The cast of Hamilton dropped the use of muskets from their Tony Award performance because of Orlando.

00:41:58.000 So the Tonys were happening,

00:41:59.000 And so they, they dropped the use of muskets, which makes no sense whatsoever.

00:42:02.000 Okay.

00:42:03.000 Muskets were not only part of the founding story, they were the instrument by which we won our freedom from the British.

00:42:08.000 Beyond that, the cast of Hamilton is all gays and minorities, right? 0.96

00:42:12.000 Broadway is the gayest place on earth. 1.00

00:42:14.000 And so they're telling gays, you don't get guns. 0.98

00:42:16.000 We're going to take away your guns symbolically. 1.00

00:42:19.000 Unarmed gay people was the problem in Orlando because they, if there'd been a few armed gay people, I want all the gays to have guns so they can shoot radical Muslims who try to kill them. 0.99

00:42:27.000 And I would like that the Founding Fathers not be disarmed in the name of government dominance. 0.99

00:42:31.000 I mean, this is crazy stuff, but this is what the left believes.

00:42:34.000 We'll talk more about it tomorrow.

00:42:35.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:42:36.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - June 14, 2016

Ep. 133 - Trump Gets It Right On 'Radical Islam'

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