The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 135 - The Hateful, Suicidal Left Wants Your Guns

00:00:00.000 The left still seems kind of confused about why the Orlando terrorists killed 49 people at a gay club.

00:00:05.000 Just yesterday, the New York Times editorialized that the, quote, precise motivation for the rampage remains unclear.

00:00:12.000 The paper then blamed Republican politicians who see prejudice as something to exploit, not extinguish.

00:00:17.000 The Times isn't alone.

00:00:18.000 According to many on the left, Omar Mateen was an enigma wrapped in a riddle, wrapped in a mystery. 0.86

00:00:23.000 He might have been a frustrated gay guy. 0.97

00:00:25.000 He might have just been a run-of-the-mill religious fanatic. 0.85

00:00:27.000 Who knows?

00:00:28.000 It could have been anything.

00:00:29.000 Or maybe he was a jihadist who spoke regularly about being a jihadist and who made no secret about how he was a jihadist.

00:00:37.000 Here's Omar Mateen on the West.

00:00:39.000 He posted this on Facebook, in real time, as he was killing people. 0.99

00:00:42.000 Quote, The real Muslims will never accept the filthy ways of the West. 1.00

00:00:46.000 Here's Omar Mateen on ISIS. 0.81

00:00:47.000 Quote, America and Russia stop bombing the Islamic State.

00:00:50.000 You kill innocent women and children by doing us airstrikes. 0.88

00:00:53.000 Now taste the Islamic State vengeance. 0.92

00:00:55.000 He then added, delightfully, In the next few days, you will see attacks from the Islamic State in the USA. 0.98

00:01:00.000 Finally, from inside the club, he wrote, I pledge my allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

00:01:05.000 May Allah accept me.

00:01:07.000 Here's what Mateen wrote on Islamic terrorism.

00:01:08.000 Well first he went in the club and he started shouting Allahu Akbar, which as we all know means I love Jesus.

00:01:14.000 The FBI investigated Mateen in 2013 after he boasted at work about ties to Hezbollah and Al-Qaeda.

00:01:20.000 The local sheriff actually moved him off duty at the St.

00:01:23.000 Lucie County Courthouse to a golfing community.

00:01:25.000 So, here's the thing. 0.58

00:01:27.000 If the media refuse to acknowledge the obvious, they can pretend everybody's equally likely to purchase a gun for purposes of shooting up a gay nightclub.

00:01:34.000 That means removing everybody's access to gun ownership. 0.94

00:01:36.000 Yours, mine, Lindsay's.

00:01:38.000 If they acknowledge that Mateen was obviously a jihadist, obviously, they'd also have to acknowledge perhaps the best calibrated government approach would be to target, say, jihadists, like the thousand of them in the United States.

00:01:50.000 There are a hundred million gun owners in the country.

00:01:52.000 There are far fewer people who brag to colleagues about how they want to join Hezbollah and Hamas.

00:01:57.000 Perhaps the problem is standards of evidence for prosecution, not standards for exercise of gun rights.

00:02:02.000 But no.

00:02:03.000 It's all a big conundrum, gang.

00:02:06.000 Who knows why he did all of this?

00:02:08.000 Grab Scooby, and let's head for the Mystery Machine. 0.83

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00:03:07.000 Alright, so, it's been a terrible week, obviously.

00:03:10.000 It's been a terrible week for the country, it's been a terrible week for the political debate, and the Democrats just continue to be terrible because that's what they do for a living.

00:03:17.000 So, let's start with Democratic Senator Joe Manchin from West Virginia.

00:03:23.000 Joe Manchin.

00:03:24.000 Uh, is somebody who actually is not totally anti-gun rights.

00:03:27.000 He's very upset because like all the Democrats, he thinks that if you're put on the terror watch list, your Second Amendment rights should immediately be removed. 0.91

00:03:35.000 The reason this is stupid is because to be put on the terror watch list, we don't know why you get put on. 0.96

00:03:40.000 We don't know how you get taken off. 0.99

00:03:42.000 And beyond that, nothing has been proved.

00:03:44.000 I mean, you haven't had a chance to actually face down your accuser.

00:03:46.000 You don't have any due process rights.

00:03:48.000 You have a constitutional right not to have your rights taken away from you without due process of law.

00:03:53.000 That's under the Constitution of the United States.

00:03:55.000 Democrats, though, would like to remove your right to purchase a firearm based on whatever the FBI says today.

00:04:03.000 Right?

00:04:03.000 There are 800,000 people, by the way, on the FBI terror watch list, including there were sitting U.S.

00:04:08.000 senators and journalists.

00:04:10.000 But the idea is that if you're on the terror watch list or the no-fly list, then therefore they never have to explain to you any of these things, but they can deny you your Second Amendment rights.

00:04:17.000 People who care about rights say, wait a second, if you're gonna prove a case against somebody, you actually have to prove a case against somebody, or at least maybe show a judge why the person is so dangerous they can't own guns, even if you haven't come up with enough evidence to convict them of a crime yet.

00:04:31.000 Joe Manchin, however, has a different problem.

00:04:33.000 His problem is due process itself.

00:04:34.000 He says due process is really screwing this whole thing up.

00:04:37.000 Here's Joe Manchin.

00:04:41.000 The problem we have, and really the firewall that we have right now, is due process.

00:04:46.000 Yeah.

00:04:46.000 It's all due process.

00:04:47.000 So we can all say, yeah, we want the same thing, but how do we get there?

00:04:51.000 If a person is on a terrorist watch list, like the gentleman, the shooter in Orlando, he was twice by the FBI.

00:04:59.000 We were

00:05:01.000 Briefed yesterday about what happened.

00:05:03.000 But that man was brought in twice.

00:05:04.000 They did everything they could.

00:05:05.000 The FBI did everything they were supposed to do.

00:05:08.000 But there was no way for them to keep him on the next list or keep him off the gun buy list.

00:05:12.000 There was no way to do that.

00:05:14.000 Okay, the big problem is due process.

00:05:15.000 If we could just do away with this whole due process thing and just take guns from people randomly, well, that would be a lot easier, wouldn't it?

00:05:20.000 I mean, that would really solve all the problems that we have.

00:05:23.000 And Democrats are fully on board with this.

00:05:24.000 Chris Murphy is a senator from Connecticut.

00:05:26.000 Last night, he did a filibuster.

00:05:28.000 He held up some sort of spending bill in order to yell about gun control.

00:05:31.000 And finally, Republicans said, fine, we'll vote on your gun control measure.

00:05:34.000 Here's Chris Murphy talking about his great heroic stance in favor of taking away your gun and mine, so long as we end up on some sort of government list.

00:05:42.000 And he explains that the time has come to just end the Second Amendment.

00:05:47.000 Well, I've been up for about an hour after sleeping for two hours and we're going to work today to make sure that we have that commitment to bring these votes before the body.

00:05:57.000 As your reporter noted, it would be much better to be able to get a bipartisan agreement on this issue of keeping guns away from terrorists, but at the very least we have to have a vote.

00:06:08.000 Senator Feinstein has fairly dramatically modified her proposal to try to address many of the concerns that Republicans have.

00:06:16.000 And so it may be that if we put this measure on the floor for a vote, either at the end of this week or the beginning of next week, we may be able to draw enough support to get it passed.

00:06:26.000 I mean, the American public agrees with us that if you're on the terrorist watch list and you are not allowed to fly on a plane, then you certainly shouldn't be able to buy a dangerous assault weapon.

00:06:36.000 That's our ask, to get a vote on that proposition and an expansion of background checks.

00:06:42.000 Hopeful that we're gonna get that either at the end of this week or next week.

00:06:45.000 Does your political instinct tell you that?

00:07:00.000 So the FBI investigated him, decided they didn't have enough to go on, and then they said, okay, well, we can't do anything with you, and he bought a gun, and he killed people.

00:07:07.000 So it wouldn't have mattered if he bought the gun while he was on the watch list, or off the watch list.

00:07:11.000 He was off the watch list by the time he died, and by the time he shot all of these folks at the gay nightclub. 0.61

00:07:16.000 But they want to broaden the standards, and so they want to get rid of the Second Amendment.

00:07:19.000 We already know they don't like the First Amendment.

00:07:21.000 They want to be able to prosecute people who are anti-climate change propaganda.

00:07:25.000 They want to be able to prosecute people who refuse to cater same-sex weddings.

00:07:29.000 So they don't like the First Amendment very much.

00:07:31.000 They don't like the Fourth Amendment, which is against unreasonable search and seizure.

00:07:34.000 They're very much in favor of violating your personal standards of liberty, depending on who you are.

00:07:39.000 They're not in favor of the Fifth Amendment to process rights.

00:07:41.000 I think we should probably start from the premise at this point that which amendments do the Democrats actually want to keep in the Bill of Rights?

00:07:47.000 It's sort of hard to figure it out at this point.

00:07:49.000 The reason that I think this is true is because the left has a tendency to project.

00:07:54.000 So in the leftist view, in the leftist view,

00:07:57.000 The only people who deserve rights are people who agree with them.

00:08:01.000 The left thinks that's also true of people on the right.

00:08:03.000 You're about to see this puzzlement express itself.

00:08:05.000 Anderson Cooper did an interview with Pam Bondi, who's the Attorney General in Florida, and it's an egregious interview.

00:08:12.000 And you'll see, the very premise of the entire conversation is,

00:08:17.000 People on the left believe that if you exercise your rights in a way they don't like, you shouldn't have those rights.

00:08:22.000 They can't understand why people on the right would say, you have a right to do something, we may not agree with how you're doing it, but you still have the right to do it free of violence.

00:08:29.000 They just don't get it.

00:08:30.000 So here's Anderson Cooper, and he got all sorts of props from the left for this, but this is really a terrible interview and a terrible indictment of the left.

00:08:38.000 I mean, it demonstrates that for the left, there's no such thing as actual rights.

00:08:42.000 For the left, there's just agreement.

00:08:44.000 Here's Anderson Cooper with Pamba. 0.98

00:08:46.000 I want to ask you, I saw you the other day saying that anyone who attacks the LGBT community, our LGBT community, you said, will be gone after with the full extent of the law.

00:08:55.000 That's exactly right. 0.55

00:08:57.000 I talked to a lot of gay and lesbian people here yesterday who are not fans of yours and who said that they thought you were being a hypocrite, that you for years have fought 0.92

00:09:06.000 You've basically gone after gay people, said that in court that gay people, simply by fighting for marriage equality, were trying to do harm to the people of Florida. 0.86

00:09:15.000 To induce public harm, I believe was the term you used, in court.

00:09:19.000 Do you really think you're a champion of the gay community?

00:09:22.000 But do you worry about using language accusing gay people of trying to do harm to the people of Florida when doesn't that send a message to some people who might have bad ideas about it?

00:09:32.000 Anderson, I don't believe gay people could do harm to the state of Florida.

00:09:35.000 We're dealing with these. 0.57

00:09:35.000 But you argued that in court. 0.57

00:09:37.000 My lawyer argued a case.

00:09:39.000 The bottom line is that what he's saying here is really vile. 0.99

00:09:42.000 What he's saying is if you oppose same-sex marriage, you must be okay with jihadists murdering people in gay clubs. 0.99

00:09:47.000 That's what he's saying. 0.99

00:09:48.000 He's saying that you're just the same as the jihadists, you just don't want to say so.

00:10:07.000 This is what the left doesn't understand about the right.

00:10:08.000 I oppose same-sex marriage. 1.00

00:10:10.000 I'm a religious person who thinks homosexuality is a sin.

00:10:12.000 I also think that in America, and in Western civilization, you have the right to have sex with whomever you please so long as it's consenting, and so long as the person is capable of consent, and you don't have to care what I think.

00:10:22.000 You don't have to care what I think.

00:10:23.000 The left can't understand this perspective.

00:10:25.000 They can't understand it at all.

00:10:26.000 Which is why, for the left, they will never allow a religious baker not to cater a same-sex wedding, right?

00:10:31.000 They will never allow that to happen because they don't like how you're expressing your freedom of religion, so it must be stopped.

00:10:37.000 They don't like how you're expressing your freedom of speech, right?

00:10:39.000 If you use freedom of speech in terrible ways.

00:10:41.000 If you say the n-word. 1.00

00:10:42.000 I think you're a pig and a disgusting human being if you use the n-word. 1.00

00:10:45.000 The left would prosecute you for doing that. 1.00

00:10:47.000 I wouldn't, because I think you have a right to say disgusting, terrible things under the First Amendment, because I don't have a right to crack down on you using violence for things that you say.

00:10:55.000 The left doesn't understand that concept.

00:10:57.000 For the left, there is just agreement, or there's fascism.

00:11:01.000 So, Anderson Cooper is actually projecting.

00:11:04.000 Pam Bondi is saying what all right-wingers say, which is, okay, we don't like homosexuality per se, we're not big fans of same-sex marriage, but

00:11:12.000 That doesn't mean somebody has the right to go into a club and blow people away.

00:11:16.000 Right? 0.75

00:11:16.000 That person is disgusting and we have nothing but sympathy for the people who are killed. 0.75

00:11:19.000 Even if they're killed while doing things that we don't necessarily approve of. 0.97

00:11:23.000 Right?

00:11:23.000 I didn't like the cartoons by the way, Charlie Hebdo.

00:11:25.000 That doesn't mean that I'm in favor of jihadists going and killing everyone at Charlie Hebdo.

00:11:29.000 Right? 0.93

00:11:29.000 The left can't understand that. 0.93

00:11:31.000 The left doesn't like that.

00:11:32.000 So instead what they do is they project their own viewpoint onto the right.

00:11:35.000 Because the left thinks that you should not have the right to carry a gun because you're a right winger.

00:11:40.000 Because they think that. 0.87

00:11:41.000 They also think that we must think that you don't have a right to live if you're a homosexual. 0.99

00:11:46.000 This, of course, is absolute nonsense. 0.92

00:11:47.000 It's really damaging to the public discourse.

00:11:49.000 It's really damaging to the public debate.

00:11:51.000 Because, again, we can all hold the same standard, or at least we used to, which is, we can disagree without being in favor of murder.

00:11:57.000 We can all fight murderers together.

00:11:58.000 This is why the left would rather side with the people, quote-unquote, fighting Islamophobia, than side with the people fighting radical jihad.

00:12:06.000 Because if they're fighting, if they're siding with the people who fight Islamophobia, presumably,

00:12:10.000 And those people are also siding with them on gay marriage, right?

00:12:13.000 There's an alliance.

00:12:14.000 I may not side with them on gay marriage, but I side with them on the right not to be killed. 0.98

00:12:18.000 So, it's amazing.

00:12:20.000 They'd rather side with the people who are with them on gay marriage for political purposes, or at least with them on political correctness for political purposes, but tolerate people who murder them.

00:12:29.000 They'd rather side with those people than the people like me who don't like same-sex marriage, but also say that radical jihadism has to be put in the ground.

00:12:37.000 So the left is really terrible on all this and this just proves it.

00:12:40.000 They don't understand how rights work.

00:12:41.000 Rights work.

00:12:43.000 The only reason rights exist is because we can disagree on the exercise of the right but still agree that there is a right to do these things that we disagree about.

00:12:51.000 Okay.

00:12:52.000 Meanwhile, Hillary and Obama are still struggling to figure out what exactly their strategy is to combat this.

00:12:56.000 Obama is headed down to Florida today.

00:12:58.000 I mean, it's not like San Bernardino where he waited for three weeks.

00:13:01.000 He's gonna head right down to Florida, and he's going to presumably say that we all need to give up our guns.

00:13:06.000 Hillary Clinton is very angry at Donald Trump.

00:13:08.000 She says that Donald Trump's ideas, namely a moratorium on Muslim immigration to the United States, more surveillance on Muslim centers in the United States, she says this wouldn't have stopped Orlando.

00:13:18.000 Here's Hillary Clinton looking 0.95

00:13:20.000 So not one of Donald Trump's reckless ideas would have saved a single life in Orlando.

00:13:31.000 It's just more evidence that he is temperamentally unfit and totally unqualified to be Commander-in-Chief.

00:13:40.000 This wouldn't have saved one life.

00:13:41.000 Nothing that Trump does would have saved a single life.

00:13:43.000 Okay, where did that logic go when it comes to her own gun control measures?

00:13:47.000 Nothing that she says about gun control would have saved any lives at all.

00:13:50.000 None.

00:13:51.000 None.

00:13:51.000 Zero lives would have been saved by what she's talking about.

00:13:54.000 Even removing the ability of people on the terror watch list from buying guns would not have stopped this particular situation.

00:14:00.000 He wasn't on the terror watch list.

00:14:02.000 Also, terrorists have a pretty good record of being able to go and find weaponry.

00:14:06.000 Right?

00:14:06.000 The Boston bombing was done with a pressure cooker.

00:14:10.000 We're gonna outlaw pressure cookers now? 0.96

00:14:11.000 I mean, this whole thing is silly. 0.57

00:14:13.000 And even Obama will admit this. 0.73

00:14:14.000 He'll say, it may not stop every shooting, but it'll save one life.

00:14:17.000 Okay, well, by that logic, Trump's measures are better.

00:14:19.000 And by the way, Trump's measures would have saved lives if we had implemented them when Daddy wanted to come over.

00:14:24.000 It turns out the father of this guy who immigrated to the United States is, in fact, a radical Muslim preacher, and he came over to the United States from Afghanistan, and we let him in anyway.

00:14:34.000 Hillary continues along these lines. 0.53

00:14:36.000 She says Trump's ideas are just terrible.

00:14:37.000 How do you build a wall to keep the Internet out?

00:14:40.000 A ban on Muslims would not have stopped this. 1.00

00:14:45.000 Neither would a wall.

00:14:47.000 I don't know how one builds a wall to keep the Internet out.

00:14:52.000 Everybody laughs.

00:14:53.000 I don't know how a wall would keep the internet out.

00:14:54.000 Well, I don't know, Hillary, since you condemned a YouTube video for the murder of four Americans in Benghazi.

00:15:00.000 I'm not sure.

00:15:00.000 Apparently, you think the same thing.

00:15:01.000 Apparently, you think that if the government shuts down free speech, then magically, there will be less terrorism.

00:15:07.000 You and your president, you think if you don't say the phrase, radical Islam, that there will be less terrorism.

00:15:11.000 Let's make one thing clear about Hillary and Obama, okay?

00:15:13.000 Hillary goes on here, and she's gonna... We'll play this one clip. 1.00

00:15:15.000 She says that she's gonna make identifying lone wolf terrorists the priority.

00:15:20.000 We have to be just as adaptable and versatile as our enemies.

00:15:27.000 As President, I will make identifying and stopping lone wolves a top priority.

00:15:35.000 Okay, so let's talk about that for a second.

00:15:37.000 How do you identify lone wolves if you refuse to acknowledge that connections with radical Islamic websites are the actual problem? 0.58

00:15:43.000 That the lone wolves all seem to hold in common this basic ideology?

00:15:47.000 How do you identify them?

00:15:48.000 How do you go after them?

00:15:50.000 And let's be straight, the Obama administration has done an unbelievably crappy job on this.

00:15:53.000 They've done a really, really terrible job.

00:15:56.000 From 1940—Bret Stephens said this in his column yesterday in the Wall Street Journal—from 1940 to 2000, there were 38 lone wolf attacks in the United States.

00:16:02.000 From 2000 to 2000, I think it was 2012, there were 12 lone wolf attacks in the United States.

00:16:05.000 From 2012 till now, there have been over 50.

00:16:13.000 So, what are they doing?

00:16:14.000 Why aren't they going after the Lone Wolves?

00:16:16.000 The answer is political correctness.

00:16:18.000 The answer is political correctness.

00:16:19.000 Even Chris Matthews, for heaven's sake!

00:16:21.000 He doesn't understand!

00:16:22.000 I don't get what Hillary's even talking about!

00:16:25.000 What's she even saying?

00:16:25.000 And we'll talk to Hugh Hewitt about it!

00:16:27.000 Let's talk about it!

00:16:27.000 Let's go!

00:16:29.000 I've got a hit list like that, Hugh.

00:16:30.000 My hit list begins with why did we go into Iraq?

00:16:32.000 My list, by the way, continues along your line with why we messed around with Qaddafi. 0.92

00:16:37.000 Why did we get involved with overthrowing a government without any idea of the bedlam to come?

00:16:41.000 And what side are we on in Syria?

00:16:43.000 Please tell me somebody, please tell me what we want to happen in Syria, because I don't get it. 0.98

00:16:47.000 I don't get Hillary's foreign policy in any of those three regards, but we all have our list.

00:16:51.000 I don't understand Hillary's foreign policy, but I still like Hillary.

00:16:54.000 I mean, it's too much to ask that I actually like the person I'm voting for, that I agree with anything.

00:16:58.000 When even Democrats are looking at Hillary and cross-eyed and saying, what are you talking about?

00:17:03.000 It makes things relatively difficult.

00:17:05.000 And every day, the delusion becomes stronger.

00:17:07.000 Because the left, on a fundamental level, cannot acknowledge radical Islam is the problem, because that would require that we stand up for our own civilization, and they don't like our civilization.

00:17:16.000 They believe all civilizations are equal.

00:17:18.000 They believe all civilizations are morally decent.

00:17:21.000 And the only thing that separates good civilizations from bad civilizations is poverty versus wealth.

00:17:27.000 And if you're wealthy, that means that you exploited the impoverished civilization.

00:17:29.000 So really, we can only have a fair, just universe if everybody is equal materially.

00:17:34.000 But that's not what drives people.

00:17:35.000 What drives people isn't your want for a house or your want for a car.

00:17:39.000 I mean, this guy had a job.

00:17:40.000 This guy had a house.

00:17:42.000 This guy had a wife.

00:17:44.000 Osama Bin Laden was a millionaire.

00:17:46.000 What drives people is not just having the rudimentary necessities of life.

00:17:50.000 What drives people to kill, and die, and murder, and protect.

00:17:55.000 What drives people to do things is what they believe is right in the world.

00:17:59.000 That's what drives people to do things.

00:18:00.000 This is why religion has been the single greatest unifying force and also the single greatest dividing force in the history of the world. 0.93

00:18:05.000 And leftism is a religion.

00:18:07.000 Leftism is a religion.

00:18:09.000 The fact is that what people are driven by is their need to impose order on what they perceive as a chaotic universe.

00:18:16.000 And so they find a framework in which they can fit that chaotic universe.

00:18:19.000 But Obama doesn't believe that.

00:18:21.000 And he doesn't believe there's any difference between the frameworks.

00:18:23.000 All that really matters is that you give ISIS jobs. 0.92

00:18:25.000 And so President Obama is very upset about the idea of having to say radical Islam.

00:18:29.000 And he keeps maintaining, we don't have to say radical Islam, it's a waste of time.

00:18:33.000 He's very upset with Donald Trump for saying radical Islam.

00:18:35.000 Here is President Obama a couple of days ago.

00:18:37.000 And let me make a final point.

00:18:41.000 For a while now, the main contribution of some of my friends on the other side of the aisle have made in the fight against ISIL is to criticize this administration and me for not using the phrase, radical Islam.

00:18:58.000 That's the key, they tell us.

00:19:01.000 We can't beat ISIL unless we call them radical Islamists. 0.99

00:19:08.000 What exactly would using this label accomplish?

00:19:13.000 What exactly would it change?

00:19:18.000 Would it make ISIL less committed to trying to kill Americans?

00:19:26.000 Would it bring in more allies?

00:19:28.000 Is there a military strategy that is served by this?

00:19:32.000 Okay, let me pause you here for a second.

00:19:33.000 He goes along these lines for a little bit.

00:19:37.000 A question for him.

00:19:38.000 If he thinks that using radical Islam doesn't change anything, why doesn't he just use it? 1.00

00:19:41.000 Since it's true.

00:19:43.000 There's a converse question for him.

00:19:44.000 Why doesn't he just use it?

00:19:45.000 If he says that this isn't a military strategy, well, why is it a military strategy not to use it?

00:19:50.000 It either matters or it doesn't.

00:19:52.000 If you say that it doesn't matter, why not just say it?

00:19:54.000 Considering that it's true.

00:19:55.000 There's not one Muslim anywhere on planet Earth who becomes a terrorist because someone said the phrase radical Islam.

00:20:02.000 Not one.

00:20:02.000 That's not why people become terrorists.

00:20:04.000 See, Obama thinks they become terrorists out of economic despair. 1.00

00:20:06.000 There are a bunch of people on the left who think that people become terrorists because they're offended by American Islamophobia or some such idiocy. 0.99

00:20:13.000 The real reason that terrorists become terrorists is because they believe in an ideology of conquest over non-Muslim peoples and also because they believe that they can get away with it and forward the cause by killing civilians. 0.99

00:20:24.000 That's what they believe.

00:20:26.000 Okay, but this idea that you don't say radical Islam because it doesn't win the war.

00:20:30.000 Nobody said it's gonna win the war, but I guarantee you will lose the war if you refuse to acknowledge that the real problem here is rooting out an ideology and killing its adherents, not taking away my guns.

00:20:40.000 Not taking away my guns. 1.00

00:20:42.000 No, this is stupidity. 1.00

00:20:43.000 Taking away my guns doesn't do anything. 1.00

00:20:45.000 I mentioned this yesterday.

00:20:46.000 You know, I'm not somebody who's in the center of terrorism.

00:20:48.000 I live in Los Angeles.

00:20:50.000 But I know somebody, there was a guy in my community who was killed by a terrorist at LAX in 2002 at the El Al counter.

00:20:57.000 I was in Israel, I was an hour away from the Sparrows bombing in Israel in 2002.

00:21:02.000 We walked past the site, right afterward we'd been there an hour beforehand.

00:21:07.000 I went to school next to the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the Holocaust Museum, in the city, in Los Angeles, at Yeshiva University Los Angeles, YOLA, and when I went there, there was a guy named Buford Furrow, it was a major national story at the time, who drove past the Simon Wiesenthal Center, considered whether to shoot it up, saw there was an armed guard there, and instead went to the local JCC, also within driving distance of me, and decided to kill a bunch of people there.

00:21:30.000 So I'm not somebody who frequently engages with terrorism, and even I have had tangential

00:21:35.000 Tangential experience with terrorism.

00:21:38.000 Right?

00:21:38.000 The idea that I'm supposed to give up my gun to people who can't protect me and refuse to protect me and crack down on the people who try to protect me is insane.

00:21:45.000 And they do.

00:21:46.000 They crack down on the FBI if it's Islamophobic.

00:21:48.000 They crack down on the CIA if it's Islamophobic.

00:21:51.000 They crack down on local police departments that report if a 14-year-old kid walks into a school with a device that looks exactly like a bomb.

00:21:59.000 Right, and then he invites him to the White House.

00:22:01.000 That's what happens if you don't mention radical Islam. 0.98

00:22:03.000 That's why people die.

00:22:05.000 Okay, so all of this leaves a big room to- it leaves a lot of broken fields running for Donald Trump.

00:22:09.000 It's an open field for him here, because the left has outed itself as horrifying in every way on this particular- I mean, they've now blamed this guy's self-loathing homophobia. 0.95

00:22:18.000 He was a gay Muslim, and so he must have hated himself because he was gay. 1.00

00:22:21.000 Okay, it turns out there are a lot of self-loathing gay people. 0.99

00:22:23.000 None of them go into gay clubs and shoot it up. 0.98

00:22:25.000 And they blame it on the fact that he could get a gun.

00:22:27.000 There are a hundred million gun owners in America.

00:22:29.000 None of them went into a gay club and shot it up.

00:22:31.000 Turns out there's one factor that sort of explains all of this.

00:22:35.000 So Trump has a lot of room to run here.

00:22:37.000 And Chris Matthews gives some advice to Donald Trump.

00:22:40.000 And it's actually not terrible advice.

00:22:41.000 I mean, he gets out, he closes the hell out of his shoe, and he explains, Donald Trump, here's how you should run, Donald Trump.

00:22:46.000 Let me explain to you how you should run, Donald Trump.

00:22:49.000 What's all this mean?

00:22:50.000 That Trump is doing something very wrong.

00:22:52.000 His attack on the judge, his call for an enlarged travel ban on Muslims, his failure to exploit the negative Inspector General's report on the Clintons' handling of email, his failure to counter her speech attacking him on foreign policy, all constitute a failure to stay in the game.

00:23:06.000 He's hitting in the wrong places, failing to strike in the right ones.

00:23:10.000 Politically, Trump's clearly in a slump, and for good reason.

00:23:13.000 He's not doing the job of Republican presidential nominee.

00:23:17.000 He's not uniting his party.

00:23:18.000 He's dividing it, leaving himself alone to confront the enemy.

00:23:22.000 Many would say the country's better off because of Trump's drifting off.

00:23:25.000 And that said, I for one would like to hear more of a Trump message that elevates the American political debate.

00:23:31.000 I'd like to hear more about the need to rebuild this country.

00:23:34.000 The cities, the subways, the railways, the bridges, the water and sewer systems.

00:23:37.000 And not just what was built in the 20th or even 19th century, but what we need to do to...

00:23:42.000 Well, we need to build.

00:23:43.000 We need to build more buildings.

00:23:44.000 We need to build a sewage system.

00:23:45.000 We need to build more waterways, like the aqueducts I saw when I was in Rome with my wife, Kathleen.

00:23:49.000 We went there, we saw these beautiful aqueducts.

00:23:50.000 I wish we had aqueducts like that today.

00:23:52.000 We don't have aqueducts like that today.

00:23:53.000 I was going to need Donald Trump to build the aqueducts, put a big giant T on the aqueducts along with the wall.

00:23:57.000 Donald Trump.

00:23:58.000 Well, what he's actually saying there, believe it or not, is pretty much right. 0.99

00:24:01.000 If Trump stayed on message, if Trump stayed on message, put aside all the idiocy about infrastructure. 0.96

00:24:05.000 If Trump stayed on message, he would have plenty of room to run here. 0.97

00:24:09.000 And so now we're going to play a game and it's called Good Trump, Bad Trump.

00:24:12.000 And there's no such thing as fully good Trump.

00:24:14.000 People keep, Hugh Hewitt came out today and he said, well, I'm back on the Trump train.

00:24:17.000 Hugh Hewitt, who I personally know, I really like Hugh, I think we're friends.

00:24:22.000 He was jumping on and off the Trump train like a hobo going, you know, trying to cross the country and escape the jackboots, right?

00:24:30.000 He's just jumping up and down on the train.

00:24:32.000 So now he's back on the Trump train and he says all he has to do is control himself, Trump.

00:24:37.000 All he has to do is control himself.

00:24:38.000 I mean, my God, what are we talking about here?

00:24:41.000 So we're gonna play Good Trump, Bad Trump.

00:24:43.000 Trump says some really good things this week. 1.00

00:24:44.000 He also says some stupid things this week. 0.99

00:24:46.000 So we'll start with the good things that he said this week. 1.00

00:24:48.000 Here is Donald Trump ripping President Obama, saying, you know, clearly Obama's angrier at me than he was at this radical Muslim who decided to kill a bunch of gay people in Florida. 0.95

00:24:56.000 I watched President Obama today, and he was more angry at me than he was at the shooter. 0.96

00:25:04.000 And many people said that.

00:25:11.000 One of the folks on television said, boy, has Trump gotten under his skin.

00:25:16.000 But he was more angry, and a lot of people have said this, the level of anger, that's the kind of anger he should have for the shooter and these killers that shouldn't be here.

00:25:27.000 Hillary Clinton, just yesterday, used the term radical Islam, sort of used it, right?

00:25:36.000 Did you see?

00:25:36.000 And they all said, oh, Trump forced her.

00:25:40.000 I shouldn't be forcing anything.

00:25:42.000 If you don't know what the term is, and if you don't discuss what the problem is, and if you can't say the real name, we have a radical Islamic terrorism problem, folks.

00:25:55.000 We can say we don't.

00:25:57.000 We can pretend like Obama that we don't.

00:26:00.000 Where Obama spent a long time talking about it.

00:26:04.000 And nobody at the end of that speech understood anything other than, boy, does he hate Donald Trump.

00:26:09.000 Okay, everything that Trump says there is exactly correct, 100% true.

00:26:12.000 If this were the Trump that you got for all the campaign... Excuse me, he'd actually have a shot at winning.

00:26:18.000 If this were the Trump that you actually saw the entire campaign long, he would actually have a shot at winning this thing.

00:26:23.000 And he continues along these lines.

00:26:25.000 Again, this is all good stuff.

00:26:26.000 Here's Trump explaining, yes, mentioning radical Islam is important.

00:26:30.000 Yes, it's a worthwhile thing to talk about radical Islam.

00:26:33.000 He's trying to justify why he won't use, and he said radical Islam, because he didn't want to use the word terrorism, if you noticed, why he won't use that term, or why he doesn't use it, and how it doesn't make any difference, but it does make a difference.

00:26:50.000 It makes a difference, and it makes a big difference, because unless you're willing to discuss and talk about

00:26:59.000 The real nature of the problem, and the name of the problem, Radical Islamic Terrorism.

00:27:06.000 You're never going to solve the problem.

00:27:30.000 She never until yesterday criticized these countries.

00:27:33.000 She never until yesterday said radical Islam.

00:27:36.000 And that's because she was shamed into it.

00:27:38.000 That's because, yeah, she was shamed into it by me.

00:27:41.000 And that's because of the pressure I put on her.

00:27:42.000 But here's a woman that takes all of this money from these countries, and then she says she loves women, and she's totally with the gays, and the, you know, the whatever group you might talk about, the gay, lesbian.

00:27:55.000 Now, let me just tell you, Sean, how can she be? 0.99

00:27:58.000 They want to kill the gays. 1.00

00:27:59.000 They throw them off buildings. 1.00

00:28:00.000 They actually throw gays off buildings. 1.00

00:28:04.000 And she's taking money. 1.00

00:28:06.000 And I'm calling for her to give back all of the money she's taken from these countries, okay?

00:28:11.000 I'm much better for women than she is. 1.00

00:28:14.000 I'm much better for gays.

00:28:16.000 Okay, so everything that he's saying there is, again, 100% true.

00:28:19.000 So this is good Trump.

00:28:21.000 Now it's time for bad Trump.

00:28:22.000 And here's the problem.

00:28:22.000 Trump can't help himself.

00:28:24.000 He just can't help himself because his face says things. 1.00

00:28:26.000 There's no filter between his brain and that crazy face. 0.98

00:28:29.000 So it just comes right out the mouth, through those big bottom teeth, and just out. 0.99

00:28:33.000 So Donald Trump, in the last 24 hours, in the last 24 hours, Donald Trump said, everybody in the Republican Party should just shut up and get behind him.

00:28:40.000 To which Paul Ryan responded, wait, what?

00:28:42.000 Who are you?

00:28:44.000 We are a co-equal branch of government.

00:28:46.000 We don't take orders from you.

00:28:47.000 Donald Trump also went after the NRA.

00:28:50.000 So this is the guy who's supposed to be standing up against radical Islam. 0.94

00:28:54.000 He tweeted out, quote, I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, which has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list or the no-fly list to buy guns.

00:29:03.000 And this would be the Democratic policy that they're pushing right now.

00:29:06.000 So he's now mirroring the Democrats. 0.51

00:29:07.000 He says, like I said, Donald Trump, good diagnostician, terrible doctor.

00:29:12.000 His diagnostics is right.

00:29:14.000 His prescription is totally wrong.

00:29:16.000 And so he's throwing the NRA right under the bus.

00:29:19.000 Right under the bus.

00:29:21.000 And it's typical Trump.

00:29:22.000 It's typical Trump.

00:29:22.000 He can't stop himself.

00:29:24.000 He can't stop himself.

00:29:25.000 It's time for bad Trump. 0.84

00:29:25.000 Then, Donald Trump, in the middle of his lecture, he says this about the gay population and how they should respond to him. 0.84

00:29:34.000 This is in Atlanta yesterday.

00:29:36.000 And for the women out there, ask the people of Saudi Arabia what they think of women.

00:29:42.000 And for the gays out there, ask the gays and ask the people. 0.85

00:29:47.000 Ask the gays what they think and what they do in not only Saudi Arabia, in many of these countries, with the gay community.

00:29:56.000 Just ask.

00:29:56.000 And then you tell me, who's your friend?

00:29:59.000 Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton?

00:30:01.000 You tell me.

00:30:02.000 Okay, so what he says there is fine. 0.93

00:30:04.000 The problem people have online is that when he can't help himself, every time he mentions a group, it's the gays.

00:30:10.000 One of the papers called the other day and they said, would you speak

00:30:39.000 To the leader of North Korea.

00:30:42.000 I said, absolutely.

00:30:43.000 Why not?

00:30:44.000 Why not?

00:30:46.000 And they come out.

00:30:47.000 Trump would speak to him. 0.78

00:30:50.000 Who the hell cares?

00:30:51.000 I'll speak to anybody. 0.61

00:30:54.000 Who knows? 0.99

00:30:56.000 There's a 10% or a 20% chance that I can talk him out of those damn nukes, because who the hell wants him to have nukes? 0.99

00:31:04.000 And there's a chance. 0.99

00:31:07.000 Okay, there's a chance, there's a chance.

00:31:08.000 I mean, he sounds like, he sounds like Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber, so you're saying there's a chance?

00:31:14.000 Okay, so he'll talk to anybody so long as there's a quote-unquote chance, as though there's no downside to talking to these people.

00:31:20.000 This is Barack Obama's policy, right?

00:31:21.000 This is Obama's policy.

00:31:22.000 He said the same thing about North Korea.

00:31:24.000 He said the same thing about Iran.

00:31:25.000 So the good Trump-bad Trump train continues to roll along, and it's putting people in a really awkward position.

00:31:30.000 There's a story today about how Donald Trump has used the Trump Foundation as a slush fund.

00:31:34.000 There's another story today about how Donald Trump is... I mentioned the one where he's yelling at other Republicans and telling them to shut up.

00:31:43.000 There are all these Republicans looking at him and saying, what's wrong with you?

00:31:46.000 You can't even stay on message with regard to the NRA and gun policy.

00:31:52.000 This is the problem for Trump.

00:31:53.000 And this is why there's going to be a lot of people who are in a very dicey situation.

00:31:56.000 This should be Trump's shining moment.

00:31:59.000 He had the best speech of his campaign early this week.

00:32:01.000 This is where he can draw his greatest differentiation, his greatest distinction between himself and Hillary Clinton.

00:32:06.000 And he just can't stop himself.

00:32:08.000 There's no way for him to stop himself. 0.75

00:32:09.000 And it really is tragic because Democrats are proving exactly how terrible they are.

00:32:14.000 And Donald Trump is right on this issue, but he can't help himself because he just, his prescriptions are wrong because he doesn't have the proper ideology, and this is the problem.

00:32:23.000 Fighting the bad guys is imperative, but in order to fight the bad guys, you have to know who you are.

00:32:26.000 You have to know what it is that you're fighting for.

00:32:28.000 Trump knows who the bad guys are, but I'm not sure, and the Democrats don't.

00:32:31.000 The Democrats don't even know who the bad people are.

00:32:32.000 Donald Trump knows who the bad guys are, but he doesn't know what our values are and why those values are worth preserving and defending.

00:32:38.000 So he knows to fight the bad guys, which is good, I guess.

00:32:41.000 I mean, it is good.

00:32:42.000 But he needs to take the next step, and that is, why are we fighting them?

00:32:46.000 What's worth preserving here?

00:32:47.000 What's worth preserving here?

00:32:49.000 And I think that he has a basic notion of that sometimes, but one of the things that's worth preserving is a small government liberty that he seems entirely too comfortable with throwing out of the way for his own ad hoc self-aggrandizement and policymaking.

00:33:03.000 Okay.

00:33:03.000 Time for something I like, and then something I hate, and then some mailbag.

00:33:06.000 Okay, so things I like.

00:33:07.000 On Thursdays, we've been doing biblical verses.

00:33:09.000 I want to issue a correction.

00:33:11.000 So on my very first Bible verse routine, I actually got something wrong last week, which is perfect, so a few extra minutes in hell for me.

00:33:16.000 Um, but here, but the, uh, I mentioned that...

00:33:19.000 There were tribes in the Bible who stayed across the Jordan River but were required to fight with the rest of the tribes in order to liberate Israel, and then they were allowed to settle outside.

00:33:29.000 I got the tribes wrong.

00:33:29.000 It was Ruvane, it was Reuben, Gad, and half of Menashe.

00:33:32.000 It wasn't Menashe and Ephraim.

00:33:33.000 Okay, fine.

00:33:34.000 Okay, now here today...

00:33:36.000 Okay, so we're going through right now in the Jewish community, we're going through the Book of Numbers.

00:33:41.000 So the next verses in the Book of Numbers are verses 22 through 27.

00:33:47.000 I won't bother to dazzle you with my ability to read Hebrew, so I'll just read it in English instead.

00:33:54.000 I'll read it in English instead.

00:33:55.000 And this is one of these puzzling aspects of the Bible that a lot of people don't get and they don't understand what's special about it or interesting about it or it's so weird.

00:34:04.000 So it says, 0.99

00:34:06.000 I like to answer these questions because the left has this whole list of things online about, oh, you crazy Jews, oh, you crazy Christians who believe all this mumbo-jumbo in the Bible and all the sexist crap in the Bible. 0.98

00:34:15.000 Okay, so there's a whole situation in the Bible in Numbers where it talks about the curse, the idea that a man thinks his wife is cheating on him, and he has warned her in the past that she shouldn't be alone with a guy, and she goes alone with the guy, and then he takes her to the Kohen, he takes her to the priest, 0.94

00:34:31.000 And they write these curses on a piece of paper, and they dissolve it in water, and then she drinks the curses, and then if she cheated on her husband, then she dies, basically, and if she didn't cheat on her husband, then she doesn't die, then they go back to being married.

00:34:46.000 So, if you just read the text of the Bible, this is pretty weird stuff, right?

00:34:49.000 I mean, this is weird mumbo-jumbo-y stuff.

00:34:51.000 This is why in Judaism we have something called the Oral Torah.

00:34:54.000 So there's the Torah, that's what this is, and then there's the Oral Torah.

00:34:56.000 The Oral Torah is the oral tradition passed on from Moses at Sinai, and it was the explanation for what does this actually mean.

00:35:02.000 So we learned from the Oral Torah what we learned from the Mishnah and from the Gomorrah, which is the Talmud, which is the commentary on the Oral Torah, is that what actually happens here is that the husband goes to the wife and he says, I think you've been cheating on me.

00:35:13.000 If she doesn't want to do this magic test here, all she has to say is, okay, let's get a divorce. 1.00

00:35:18.000 She can get out of it.

00:35:19.000 She can just say, let's get a divorce, which seems to me the proper response in almost any case if your husband thinks you're cheating on you and is serious enough about it to bring you to a priest and have you drink some weird water.

00:35:27.000 So she can get out of it anytime she wants.

00:35:29.000 She, however, does not want to do that.

00:35:31.000 And so she goes and she and she drinks this water.

00:35:35.000 And presumably it says her thigh collapses, and she dies.

00:35:38.000 Okay, so.

00:35:39.000 In most cases, so the question is twofold.

00:35:41.000 One is the scientific question, what's in the water that makes somebody die?

00:35:44.000 The second is, why go through this whole rigmarole in the first place?

00:35:47.000 So, what's in the water that makes somebody die?

00:35:51.000 Nobody really knows.

00:35:52.000 There are no documented cases of this ever happening, where somebody drinks the water, and in the Talmud there are no real documented cases of somebody drinks the water and then they die.

00:35:58.000 So why bother go through this whole rigmarole?

00:36:00.000 What is written on the piece of paper that is dissolved in the water is the name of God.

00:36:04.000 Right?

00:36:05.000 The priest writes the name of God, and then he dissolves it.

00:36:07.000 One of the rules in Judaism, and in the Bible, is you're not allowed to desecrate the name of God.

00:36:11.000 This means that in the Jewish community, if you have the formal name of God written in Hebrew, you're not allowed to burn it, you're not allowed to destroy it, you actually have to bury it. 0.94

00:36:18.000 Like, you have to treat it as though it has worth.

00:36:20.000 But here, you're explicitly ordered to take the name of God, and to dissolve it in water.

00:36:24.000 Right?

00:36:24.000 You're specifically told to do this, and why are you told to do this?

00:36:27.000 To preserve the marriage.

00:36:28.000 So the idea here is that God is even willing to sacrifice his own dignity.

00:36:31.000 He's even willing to sacrifice his own name to preserve what we like to call Shalom Bayes, to preserve the health of the household, to bring husband and wife back together.

00:36:40.000 So the husband is suspicious and it, by the way, it encourages the husband not to do this repeatedly.

00:36:44.000 Don't do this.

00:36:45.000 You're making a big mistake by doing this.

00:36:47.000 But if both sides of the couple want to go forward with all of this, then the idea is that even God, God is willing to sacrifice himself

00:36:54.000 To preserve marriage, and that's the essence of this entire section, this puzzling section, is if there's that much suspicion between husband and wife, God is willing to put his own name on the line.

00:37:05.000 He's willing to put his own name on the line, his own honor on the line, in order to sanctify the marriage, and in order to assure the innocence of the woman who's being wrongly accused.

00:37:14.000 So that's this part of the Bible that I wanted to explain today, that again is from Numbers 5.22 to 5.27.

00:37:18.000 Okay. 0.58

00:37:22.000 Now another thing that I like that has nothing to do with the Bible and this is the there's a prank video that somebody put out and it really is kind of hilarious so there's this this guy who wanted to show that Americans react differently to Muslim terrorists than they do to supposedly Christian terrorists. 0.87

00:37:36.000 Duh.

00:37:36.000 So here's the prank video that he put out.

00:37:39.000 He has a guy and he's dressed up for people who can't see.

00:37:41.000 He's dressed up in like full Muslim gear and and then he's and you'll see you'll see how it progresses. 0.96

00:37:47.000 He's gonna be an Islamic terrorist, I'm gonna be a Christian terrorist, and let's see if people act differently towards each one of us. 0.98

00:37:59.000 Allah akbar! 0.99

00:38:10.000 Allah akbar! 0.99

00:38:14.000 Oh s**t! 0.99

00:38:15.000 Oh s**t! 0.99

00:38:16.000 Oh s**t! 0.99

00:38:34.000 Okay, so this guy's running around and he's dropping a suitcase and yelling Allahu Akbar. 0.98

00:38:38.000 And then... And then... Running around.

00:38:41.000 What I love... Some of these people is like... This is not how you should respond if you think bombing is going on, gang.

00:38:48.000 Like, I'm just telling you, like... They move one... They move six inches.

00:38:51.000 Like, they freak out and they move six inches as though that's gonna protect them from the bomb blast.

00:38:55.000 Right, and then I love the girls who are standing there in a field, and they go back for their stuff. 0.99

00:38:59.000 Like, okay, if you actually thought that's a bomb, you might wanna, like, get the hell out of there. 0.93

00:39:02.000 Okay, so, here's how people react to a Christian terrorist. 0.96

00:39:05.000 And here's a guy- Praise Jesus.

00:39:06.000 And he just drops his suitcase, and yells, Jesus loves you.

00:39:14.000 Praise Jesus.

00:39:16.000 He just praised Jesus, and drops it, and drops his suitcase, and then walks away.

00:39:19.000 And these kids kinda sit there, and nothing happens.

00:39:23.000 Okay- Praise Jesus.

00:39:25.000 Praise Jesus, and then he just runs away.

00:39:29.000 And nobody's doing anything, right?

00:39:30.000 Nobody's freaking out about it.

00:39:34.000 People are just looking around like, what the hell is this?

00:39:36.000 Okay, so the reason for this, gang, is because when someone shouts Allahu Akbar, it generally is followed by an explosion of some sort, okay?

00:39:44.000 When you're not in Islamic prayer service, someone's just running up to you in public, shouts Allahu Akbar, it's not gonna end well.

00:39:49.000 If somebody says praise Jesus and drops something in front of you, there's at least a 90% chance that you just dropped a box of Bibles.

00:39:56.000 I mean, really, like, or he dropped some candies that he got from the Girl Scouts or something. 0.67

00:39:59.000 Or he's just a crazy guy who dropped his bag of crosses. 0.58

00:40:02.000 Like, there's not a long history of people shouting praise to Jizal, who Akbar's a buzzword gang. 0.98

00:40:07.000 That's the reason why people freak out when this happens.

00:40:09.000 And this shows that people, I guess the idea was to show Americans are Islamophobic?

00:40:13.000 Dude, if somebody is wearing that and drops a package in front of me and shouts Allahu Akbar, I am sure as hell Islamophobic enough to run like hell from that, okay? 1.00

00:40:24.000 That's not Islamophobic, that's you not being a moron. 0.99

00:40:26.000 So, okay, so there's that video. 1.00

00:40:28.000 Okay, things I hate.

00:40:29.000 Janet Yellen, who's the head of the Federal Reserve, she was asked about helicopter money.

00:40:34.000 So, helicopter money...

00:40:36.000 Let's say that the economy is doing really badly.

00:40:38.000 Helicopter money is the idea that the federal government can increase spending by literally getting in a helicopter and shoveling physical cash out of the helicopter onto vast swaths of the community and then people have extra money and they'll go spend it and we'll have a great economy again. 0.86

00:40:53.000 The reason this is stupid is because if I have a watch that's worth $100 and you now give everybody $100, my watch is going to go up in price because 0.72

00:41:04.000 You haven't changed the underlying value of the watch, you just changed the ruler that we're measuring by, right? 0.98

00:41:09.000 I'm 5'9", contrary to popular opinion.

00:41:11.000 If I have a yardstick that says that I am 7'3", it doesn't matter.

00:41:16.000 I'm still 5'9".

00:41:17.000 I'm exactly the same height I was before.

00:41:19.000 Okay, the value of an object does not change based on the number of dollars in circulation.

00:41:23.000 It still has the same inherent value in terms of the market that's being traded, it's just the measurement stick has changed. 0.99

00:41:28.000 Here's Janet Yellen, the head of the Fed, being a moron. 1.00

00:41:31.000 In unusual times where the concern is with very weak growth or possibly deflation, rather rare circumstances, first of all, fiscal policy can be a very important tool. 0.96

00:41:47.000 And it's natural that if it can be employed, that just as monetary policy is doing a lot

00:41:54.000 To try to stimulate growth, the fiscal policy should play a role, and normally you would hope in an economy with those severe downside risks, monetary and fiscal policy would not be working at cross purposes, but together.

00:42:11.000 Now, whether or not in such extreme circumstances, there might be a case for, let's say, coordination, close coordination, where the central bank playing a role

00:42:25.000 No, it doesn't.

00:42:31.000 Nothing changes.

00:42:32.000 You just made everybody's savings worth nothing.

00:42:35.000 That's all that happened.

00:42:36.000 Right?

00:42:36.000 Because my savings still have the same number of dollars in there.

00:42:38.000 You didn't inflate my savings.

00:42:40.000 You just made them worth nothing.

00:42:40.000 I can't buy anything with them.

00:42:41.000 Okay. 1.00

00:42:42.000 So that's why having the Fed in charge of our fiscal policy is really stupid. 0.99

00:42:45.000 Okay, mailbag time. 0.99

00:42:47.000 Let's do a few minutes of mailbag.

00:42:48.000 Okay.

00:42:49.000 Marcelo writes, Ben, I'm a conservative who was born and raised in Brazil, a country that elected with vast majority votes to Marxist government and Marxist guerrillas.

00:42:57.000 I moved to America to integrate work.

00:42:59.000 I'm a doctor and become a true American.

00:43:01.000 I see this country looking more and more like Brazil, which terrifies me. 0.98

00:43:03.000 What do you think would be the best way for me to help prevent this from happening?

00:43:07.000 I use my experience in Brazil to try to open people's eyes, but how can I make it more effective?

00:43:10.000 Well, first of all, you should write as much as possible.

00:43:12.000 You should get the word out there.

00:43:14.000 You should make videos.

00:43:14.000 You should distribute the message.

00:43:16.000 If you want to submit to Daily Wire, we don't take a lot of submissions, but if you want to submit, I'm more than happy to take a look.

00:43:23.000 That's a message that needs to be... People from abroad who have been in countries where we've tried all of these things and failed...

00:43:27.000 Your words have a little bit more weight than people here kind of theorizing about it.

00:43:34.000 I just got done reading his book, Righteous Indignation, which was great.

00:43:38.000 I also read your book, Bullies, which was fantastic.

00:43:40.000 Righteous Indignation, Andrew's book, is really a terrific book.

00:43:43.000 I saw a video by Gavin McInnes on Rebel Media talking about the 14 different groups on the right.

00:43:47.000 He labeled Breitbart a Trump conservative.

00:43:49.000 Having read his and your book, I didn't get the impression of that being a correct categorization.

00:43:53.000 Am I wrong or do you agree with Gavin's assessment?

00:43:55.000 Well, I think Gavin has Trump all wrong, so I think that's the problem.

00:43:58.000 So Gavin, I think, believes that Trump is just a guy who slaps social justice warriors and slaps the left and doesn't really care about policy.

00:44:06.000 That's not what Trump does.

00:44:07.000 Trump is just an ad hoc totalitarian, and his enemies are who his enemies happen to be at that given moment.

00:44:12.000 Some are on the left, some are on the right.

00:44:14.000 Andrew Breitbart's motivating factor in life was standing up to bullies.

00:44:17.000 Andrew didn't think that Trump was a conservative in any way, and he also thought that bullies had to be fought.

00:44:22.000 So the fact that Andrew Breitbart, you know, like...

00:44:24.000 Let me just give you an example, not to go back to a sore subject, but there is no way in hell that if Andrew Breitbart had been alive during the Michelle Fields incident, he doesn't fly down to Florida and confront Trump for an apology for his reporter.

00:44:35.000 Just, there's no way it doesn't happen.

00:44:37.000 Anybody who knows Andrew would tell you this.

00:44:39.000 Anyone.

00:44:39.000 Okay?

00:44:40.000 Except for the people who currently work at Breitbart, because they have reason not to tell you that.

00:44:43.000 But that's the reality.

00:44:44.000 Andrew was first and foremost a guy who hated bullies, and that was true on the left and on the right.

00:44:48.000 Okay?

00:44:50.000 Ben writes, if you were president, what would your immigration position be?

00:44:52.000 What would you do with all the people already here?

00:44:54.000 If I were president, I would build a wall.

00:44:56.000 I would also limit the amount of immigration from countries that do not have a history of Western civilization. 1.00

00:45:01.000 I would institute a philosophy test for people coming in to ensure that they are not going to take welfare.

00:45:06.000 I would cut our welfare programs dramatically to not create a magnet for people coming here illegally. 1.00

00:45:11.000 And I would ensure that people who are here illegally and taking welfare, people who are here illegally and taking government benefits, people who are a net draw on the society are deported. 0.99

00:45:20.000 That means actually looking at each illegal immigrant.

00:45:21.000 That doesn't mean that the illegal immigrant who's valedictorian of her high school and now going to Yale, we should deport her. 0.98

00:45:26.000 But it does mean the illegal immigrant who's been caught five times for felonies should probably be deported and stay deported.

00:45:32.000 That's my view.

00:45:32.000 We can do this on a one-to-one basis.

00:45:34.000 We don't have to say all illegal immigrants go, all illegal immigrants stay. 1.00

00:45:38.000 That's dumb. 0.99

00:45:39.000 It's not practical. 0.98

00:45:40.000 What you can do is you can say some of you deserve to go and some of you deserve to stay and you know impose a fine for people who are staying so that they can pay off their debt because they obviously have had a cost on the society.

00:45:51.000 Okay.

00:45:52.000 Andrew writes, Hi Ben, what does Ayn Rand get right and what does she get wrong?

00:45:55.000 Drew.

00:45:56.000 Well first of all, Drew, I saw you like five minutes ago in the office.

00:45:58.000 You could have just asked me in person.

00:45:59.000 But, what does Ayn Rand get right?

00:46:01.000 What she gets right is her take on capitalism.

00:46:03.000 That productivity is what drives capitalism.

00:46:07.000 That you own your own labor.

00:46:08.000 And that your labor is an extension of you.

00:46:10.000 That there's a moral side to capitalism.

00:46:12.000 That's what Ayn Rand gets right.

00:46:13.000 What Ayn Rand gets wrong,

00:46:14.000 Objectivism is the perception that selfishness is always good, and the way she defines selfishness is, if I decide to leave my wife and nail another broad, then that's good because I'm being selfish and it would be, my altruism would end up hurting me and my wife if I were to stay with her and be monogamous. 0.86

00:46:33.000 So I should basically do what I want, right?

00:46:35.000 And that's where she's just missing the boat.

00:46:37.000 The fact is that

00:46:38.000 Relationships, interpersonal relationships with the people you love do require a certain amount of altruism.

00:46:42.000 You'll notice that in Ayn Rand's book, there are no children.

00:46:44.000 There are no children in any of her books.

00:46:46.000 The reason for this is because raising children is entirely altruistic.

00:46:49.000 I can tell you, having lost sleep for the last six weeks, that's not something I enjoy doing.

00:46:54.000 It's not something fun to do.

00:46:55.000 I'm not doing it out of my own selfish motivation.

00:46:57.000 I'm doing it because my wife needs help. 0.98

00:46:59.000 The selfish thing for me to do is I have a wife.

00:47:01.000 She's, you know, taking time off right now.

00:47:03.000 My selfish thing to do would be, okay, honey, you deal with the baby.

00:47:05.000 I got things to do.

00:47:06.000 Right?

00:47:07.000 You can deal with him.

00:47:08.000 They might argue, okay, well, but you're really making yourself feel good, and that's the real selfishness.

00:47:13.000 Okay, it's kind of a weak argument.

00:47:14.000 The reality is that, believe me, it's not making me feel all that good that I'm staying up all hours of the night.

00:47:18.000 So, Ayn Rand's view of interpersonal relationships and love is very, very sick.

00:47:23.000 Her perspective on capitalism, however, is excellent.

00:47:27.000 Peter writes, Ben, did your wife serve in the Israeli military?

00:47:29.000 If so, does she use Krav Maga on you when you say something too outrageous?

00:47:32.000 She did not serve in the military.

00:47:33.000 She immigrated to the United States permanently when she was 12.

00:47:36.000 She and her family were back and forth before then.

00:47:38.000 She speaks English just like I do.

00:47:40.000 There's no accent.

00:47:42.000 She also speaks Hebrew without an accent, which is kind of cool.

00:47:44.000 And what do you think about American women registering for the draft now? 1.00

00:47:47.000 I think this is idiotic. 0.99

00:47:48.000 I don't think that women should be drafted because women are women and men were created on earth, at least in large part, to protect women. 0.99

00:47:54.000 I think that if women want to go to the military, 1.00

00:47:57.000 Good for them.

00:47:57.000 If women are drafted, no, I don't think you should draft my wife or my daughter.

00:48:00.000 I think that's stupid, and I don't think that women have the same physical capacity that men do. 1.00

00:48:05.000 And as far as Israel's ideas on women's military service, Israel has a draft, but the draft also allows women to sign up for national service. 0.99

00:48:12.000 So it's not a military draft.

00:48:13.000 It's also you can sign up for shirut lumi, which means that you can do kind of tourism on behalf of the state, and you can go out and you can recruit kind of support on behalf of the state of Israel.

00:48:23.000 Price right.

00:48:24.000 Hi, Ben.

00:48:25.000 How can I prove stricter gun control actually causes higher crime?

00:48:28.000 Your input would be much appreciated.

00:48:29.000 Okay, so stricter gun control doesn't always cause higher crime.

00:48:34.000 It tends to.

00:48:36.000 The problem is that statistics are easy to cherry-pick.

00:48:38.000 In order to prove this, in order to get the left to acknowledge this, what you really have to do is you have to take two comparable populations.

00:48:45.000 The left likes to say, well, Chicago has high gun crime rates, but that's just because it's Chicago.

00:48:50.000 Right?

00:48:51.000 If you tried the same gun control measures in Vermont, you would have low crime rates.

00:48:54.000 Okay, well that's true because the people in Vermont don't commit crimes, right?

00:48:57.000 So it's, you have to find comparable populations.

00:49:00.000 It's very easy to cherry-pick statistics here.

00:49:02.000 That's why I tend to make the argument that one thing I can prove is that gun control does not work.

00:49:07.000 Right?

00:49:08.000 I can't tell you that non-gun control works better, absolutely.

00:49:12.000 I can tell you that gun control simply does not work.

00:49:15.000 In the same way I can't tell you that abstinence-only sex education works better than comprehensive sex education, I can just tell you comprehensive sex ed doesn't work.

00:49:22.000 Right?

00:49:22.000 Which is true.

00:49:24.000 Hey, Ben, if you could set up a debate with the leftist of your choosing, who would it be?

00:49:28.000 Well, President Obama, because he's the most prominent, and then I could make fun of him.

00:49:33.000 I like to go after prominent leftists.

00:49:35.000 Ben, this is also from Andrew.

00:49:37.000 Andrew's writing a lot this week.

00:49:38.000 Different Andrew, I think.

00:49:39.000 This is Andy.

00:49:40.000 Could you explain the left's infatuation with Islam?

00:49:42.000 They're quick to attack Jews and Christians.

00:49:44.000 They seem to bend over backwards to defend Islam. 0.99

00:49:46.000 Sure.

00:49:47.000 The reason that they defend Islam is because for the left, as I've explained before, if the left sees a room and there's a guy with $5 and a guy with $1 in the room, the left immediately assumes something terrible has happened. 0.95

00:49:57.000 The guy with $5 has hurt the guy with $1.

00:49:59.000 When the left looks at global civilization, who's successful in global civilization?

00:50:02.000 Christians and Jews. 1.00

00:50:03.000 They look at Muslims, they're impoverished, they live in backwaters, their countries are absolute crap holes, the women are treated like garbage. 1.00

00:50:10.000 Right. 1.00

00:50:10.000 So, people like us, we say, well, right, because they have bad values. 1.00

00:50:14.000 People on the left say, that must be because Western civilization exploited them and hurt them, and therefore they're victims, right?

00:50:20.000 They're third world victims. 0.93

00:50:21.000 And victims in left ideology are heroes, and so these victim heroes have to be given additional benefits.

00:50:28.000 They have to be handed things.

00:50:30.000 Trevor writes, I see a lot of people who try to defend Islam say, ISIS is to Islam what the KKK is to Christianity.

00:50:35.000 What would be the best way to go about attacking that statement?

00:50:38.000 Okay, what I would say is, number one, there may be some truth to that, mildly, in the sense that the KKK identifies as Christian.

00:50:47.000 I would say that the most extreme Christians tend to be evangelical Christians who hate the KKK.

00:50:52.000 If you take extreme Christians, the worst that generally an extreme Christian is going to do is babysit your kid on a Saturday night. 0.96

00:50:58.000 The worst that an extreme Muslim is going to do is bomb your Canada Sparrows, right? 1.00

00:51:02.000 So, the KKK, that's number one. 0.96

00:51:04.000 I'm not sure how representative KKK is to Christianity.

00:51:08.000 I can say the views of ISIS are far more representative in the Muslim world.

00:51:12.000 This is why I don't go to the Quranic analysis mode.

00:51:15.000 I don't think it's that important.

00:51:16.000 What I do think is important is how many people in the Islamic world agree with bad stuff. 1.00

00:51:20.000 The number of Christians who agree with KKK is minimal.

00:51:23.000 Really minimal.

00:51:24.000 The number of people in the Muslim world who agree with the basic worldview of ISIS is actually relatively high.

00:51:30.000 It may even be a majority.

00:51:31.000 Like, we're used to American Muslims who are pretty moderate in orientation, but most of the world is not American Muslims. 0.99

00:51:37.000 99% of Afghanis believe that if you're homosexual, you should be executed. 0.98

00:51:40.000 99%, okay? 0.99

00:51:42.000 So, the 99% believe in honor killings. 1.00

00:51:44.000 Like, if your daughter has sex with the wrong guy, you should go and kill her. 1.00

00:51:47.000 Right, so that's, you know, that is a significant problem within Islam. 1.00

00:51:52.000 If I look at an ideology and a majority or a borderline majority of the people agree with the most extreme version that's really harmful, that's a far cry from a hundred people who are members of the KKK.

00:52:02.000 Okay, final question.

00:52:03.000 I'm sorry I didn't have time for all of these.

00:52:05.000 Ian writes, Hey Ben, I'm an avid viewer of the podcast, and you've helped shape my worldview.

00:52:09.000 I've read the book you recommended months ago, The Conservative Heart.

00:52:12.000 I'm wondering if this tactic can be used in conjunction with how to debate leftists, or are they two diametrically opposed political strategies?

00:52:18.000 No, they have to be used in conjunction.

00:52:20.000 So The Conservative Heart says you have to make a moral argument.

00:52:22.000 You have to make a moral argument for why what you're saying is good and reaches out to people and helps people.

00:52:27.000 I've said that you also have to, in order for you to make a significantly effective moral argument, you also have to name the villain.

00:52:33.000 So, I say name the villain, and then present, here's why we care about you.

00:52:37.000 But first, you have to name the villain.

00:52:38.000 Right?

00:52:38.000 The rule in politics is, think of it as sumo wrestling.

00:52:41.000 You have to take your opponent and throw them out of the circle, right?

00:52:43.000 And then, you bring everybody else into your circle.

00:52:46.000 But first, you have to throw your opponent out of the circle, or everybody including your opponent is in the circle, and he can recruit from within the circle.

00:52:51.000 This is what the left understands, but the right seems not to.

00:52:55.000 Okay, that's all we have time for, but we will be back next week with much, much more, and I believe it's either next week or the week after, we're going to be doing Facebook Live, so you'll be able to watch us live on Facebook as we do it live, and you'll be able to see when I say ridiculous things and Lindsey's laughing, and if I make Lindsey dance, indeed, as promised earlier, you'll be able to watch that live.

00:53:15.000 Yeah, Lindsey's very excited about this, I am less so, but we will have to see about how that goes.

00:53:20.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, this is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - June 16, 2016

Ep. 135 - The Hateful, Suicidal Left Wants Your Guns

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