The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 14 - Don't Kill Baby Hitler

No, you shouldn t kill Baby Hitler, even if you have a time machine and a DeLorean. Here s why: 1. You re not God. 2. Hitler wasn t a sociopath. 3. He was a socialist. 4. He didn t invent anti-Semitism. 5. He wasn t the only one with anti-Semitic views. And if you re not busy killing Baby Hitler to make the world a less Jewating place, then you re too busy theorizing about killing Hitler to bother canceling your subscription to the New York Times Magazine, which backs all-encompassing coverage of all things Nazi. Ben Shapiro explains why you should just kill him as an unborn baby, and then you don t have to have to worry about it as an adult. If you want to know what you should do with Hitler, then go ahead and kill him now. But as long as he s not a baby anymore, you ll have to wait until he s a grown man, because he s probably not going to be much different than Hitler was when he was a kid, is he not? If he s still a baby, then why not kill him when he s an adult, right? Well, it s pretty obvious that Hitler s a bad dude, isn t it? If Hitler s parents were Jewish, then maybe you should put him in the care of a Jewish family, but if Hitler s Jewish family was not, then he ll have a chance to grow up to be a better version of himself. Hitler would have been a better than Hitler s father, but still be a good human being. Ben, not a bad guy but not a good guy. You ll just have to go back in time and kill Hitler as a baby if he s going to turn out to be like Hitler s dad, right or something like Stalin or Stalin or Yasser Arafat or Stalin and Stalin was a good kid at least not like Hitler was a decent human being, not like Stalin was . not the kind of guy, but a good kind of kid, right ? you know what I bet you ll be a little better than Stalin or Arafat, right, right?? a better human being than Stalin? - Ben Shapiro The Ben Shapiro Show is a brand new week means it s time for a new week of Hillary Clinton.

00:00:00.000 Well, happy Monday, everyone, and no. 0.60

00:00:02.000 If you have a flux capacitor and a DeLorean, you shouldn't go back in time and kill baby Hitler. 0.92

00:00:06.000 The reason that we're even discussing baby Hitler, of course, is because last Friday, Twitter went up in flames after the New York Times Magazine posted the results of an online poll. 0.97

00:00:16.000 It was, Dear Reader, could you kill a baby Hitler? 0.80

00:00:20.000 The answers from the readers, 42% said yes, 30% said no, 28% said they were unsure. 0.88

00:00:26.000 Note, I'm not sure who bothers to take the time to vote unsure in an internet poll.

00:00:30.000 That's somebody with way too much time on their hands.

00:00:33.000 This alternative history has been considered many times in fiction and it usually ends badly.

00:00:38.000 So I figured that I would tell you there are two reasons you should not go back in time and kill baby Hitler if you actually end up with Doc Brown in the passenger seat. 0.90

00:00:46.000 Number one, you are not God.

00:00:49.000 The fun of counterfactuals is this perfect hindsight of history. 0.92

00:00:51.000 We all know that Hitler became an emissary of tremendous evil, and so we think that if we killed him when he was a baby, all of that would have been prevented. 0.94

00:00:59.000 That, by the way, is exactly the logic behind the eugenic abortion movement backed by some leftist readers of the book Freakonomics. 0.91

00:01:06.000 The babies are going to be criminals anyway, so you may as well just abort them before they're born.

00:01:10.000 In fact, I really don't understand why only 42% of leftists would have killed baby Hitler. 0.99

00:01:14.000 100% of them would have killed fetus Hitler. 0.97

00:01:19.000 You just kill him as an unborn baby and then you really don't have to worry about it. 1.00

00:01:21.000 But here's the thing. 0.99

00:01:23.000 Babies can actually be shaped and changed.

00:01:25.000 If baby Hitler had been adopted by a Jewish family as a kid, does anyone really believe that his life would have turned out exactly the same way? 0.74

00:01:32.000 Now, maybe if you think he was a sociopath, you think that he was, but there really isn't a lot of evidence that

00:01:37.000 Hitler was a sociopath. 0.72

00:01:38.000 He was a utopian leftist with socially Darwinistic views on race, popular among a lot of other leftists of the time. 0.99

00:01:45.000 Instead of going back in time and killing baby Hitler, how about taking him away from his family and placing him with a childless Jewish family? 1.00

00:01:51.000 Or instead, just directing him to the literature of Adam Smith or Edmund Burke rather than Karl Marx? 0.98

00:01:58.000 Reason number two.

00:01:58.000 It wasn't just Hitler.

00:02:00.000 Hitler ably channeled German antisemitism toward building a powerful movement culminating in the Holocaust, but he certainly didn't invent German Jew-hatred. 0.74

00:02:09.000 It's not as if Hitler had been hit in the head by a bullet in World War I. The Germans and the Jews would have gotten along famously forevermore.

00:02:15.000 Germany was replete with Jew-hatred for decades, centuries before Hitler.

00:02:20.000 His ideas found fertile ground not just in Germany, but in European countries that participated wholesale in the slaughter of the Jews.

00:02:27.000 By the way, if you want to know about European anti-Semitism, just listen to Andrew Klavan's podcast a few days ago.

00:02:32.000 Hitler boggles the mind because of the mechanization of the mass murder of the Jews, but people tend to forget millions of Jews, just as many Jews, were killed outside the killing center by what were called Einsatzgruppen, who are killing squads engaging in mass shootings.

00:02:47.000 Foreigners often participated in the killings, including 100,000 Ukrainians who joined forces with the Nazis, for example.

00:02:53.000 Hitler wasn't alone. 0.99

00:02:54.000 Killing him as a baby wouldn't have ended the threat in any real way. 0.81

00:02:57.000 So, there's your answer. 1.00

00:02:58.000 You shouldn't go back in time and kill baby Hitler. 0.78

00:03:00.000 Now, adult Hitler is a totally different story. 0.95

00:03:03.000 If you have a shot and you find a time machine, take it immediately. 0.98

00:03:06.000 Take him out. 0.74

00:03:07.000 For that matter, go ahead and knock off Stalin and Mao and Yasser Arafat while you're at it. 0.98

00:03:11.000 But as long as you're not busy killing baby Hitler, there are a few other things that you should do right now to make the world a less Jew-hating place. 0.95

00:03:19.000 Unless, that is, you're too busy theorizing about killing Hitler to bother canceling your subscription to the New York Times Magazine, which backs all of Israel's genocidal enemies, the modern Nazis, to the hilt. 0.88

00:03:30.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, and this is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:03:38.000 Well, folks, it is a brand new week, and that means it's time for a whole new week of Hillary Clinton lying about things. 1.00

00:03:44.000 Every time her face opens, lies come out, and last week was no exception.

00:03:48.000 We really didn't get a chance last week to talk about Hillary at the Benghazi hearings.

00:03:52.000 We talked about it briefly last Thursday, but then, of course, we didn't have the show on Friday, and so here we are on Monday.

00:03:57.000 We haven't had a full explanation of what Hillary did and what she lied about. 0.99

00:04:01.000 She told a bunch of lies during the hearing. 1.00

00:04:02.000 She said, for example, that she had been totally transparent with her emails.

00:04:06.000 That, of course, was not true.

00:04:07.000 She blamed Chris Stevens for his own death.

00:04:09.000 She suggested that he knew the risks and that he felt comfortable in Benghazi.

00:04:14.000 If you feel comfortable somewhere, you don't send 600 messages to your superiors asking for more security.

00:04:20.000 She also suggested that she was not using former Clinton hack

00:04:24.000 Sidney Blumenthal as a sort of advisor, that wasn't true.

00:04:27.000 She told lie after lie after lie, and of course the biggest lie is that she didn't know that a YouTube video wasn't involved with the Benghazi attacks.

00:04:34.000 She knew that night, she emailed Chelsea Clinton that night, that the YouTube video had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks.

00:04:40.000 She reiterated it to the authorities in Libya, as well as the Egyptian Prime Minister. 0.97

00:04:44.000 So, she's a liar. 0.97

00:04:46.000 That's not stopping any of the Democrats from defending her. 0.97

00:04:49.000 Elijah Cummings, who is a representative from, I believe, Georgia, and he is a disaster area when it comes to pushing the leftist message.

00:04:59.000 Elijah Cummings is the new kind of Hillary defender on this committee, and he was on some of the Sunday shows because people were still talking about this committee.

00:05:06.000 And Elijah Cummings said that they were just there, the Democrats were just there, defending the truth.

00:05:10.000 Here's what it sounded like.

00:05:16.000 From the very beginning, Chuck, I said we were looking for the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

00:05:22.000 And in many instances, we found ourselves having to not defend Secretary Clinton, but to make sure that the record was complete.

00:05:33.000 And I'm glad that the public had an opportunity to see all of that.

00:05:38.000 And I mean, when you look at what we were asking about, they were the things that went to Benghazi, the things that we were supposed to be dealing with from the very beginning.

00:05:47.000 And when the families came in, many of them with tears in their eyes, they asked us to only do three things.

00:05:54.000 One, they asked us to make sure that we made sure that this did not happen again.

00:06:03.000 They wanted us to look for the facts, more facts than we already had.

00:06:08.000 And they asked us for one final thing.

00:06:10.000 They asked us to make sure that we did not turn this into a political football.

00:06:15.000 OK, so let's stop it right there.

00:06:17.000 So they asked for a few things, and one of them was not to turn Benghazi into a political football.

00:06:21.000 Elijah Cummings has spent his entire life turning things into political footballs.

00:06:25.000 And the idea that he wasn't defending Hillary Clinton outright, if you watched any of the hearings,

00:06:30.000 Last Thursday.

00:06:30.000 That's all he did.

00:06:31.000 That's all he did.

00:06:32.000 The Democrats didn't ask a single substantive question for 11 hours.

00:06:36.000 It was 11 hours of saying that the whole thing was partisan and mean and nasty and Hillary Clinton was a victim.

00:06:42.000 Now, if you watch Elijah Cummings, if you watch the Democrats, what you're consistently hearing from them with regard to Benghazi is, we take this seriously.

00:06:50.000 Last Thursday, Hillary Clinton had her pre-planned righteous indignation moment in which she suggested, I've lost more sleep than any of you over Chris Stevens.

00:07:01.000 Now, I'm going to play a clip here, and I want to ask you, does this sound like someone who lost sleep over the death of Chris Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi?

00:07:10.000 Does this sound like someone who deeply cared about the murdered Americans in Benghazi?

00:07:15.000 After her 11-hour hearing,

00:07:17.000 Hillary Clinton went directly to Rachel Maddow on MSNBC.

00:07:20.000 Rachel Maddow is about the friendliest face that she could possibly find.

00:07:23.000 She and Chris Hayes are actually the same person.

00:07:25.000 They just separate for purposes of their shows.

00:07:27.000 And Hillary Clinton is sitting across from Rachel Maddow, and Rachel Maddow proceeds to ask her what she did after the hearings.

00:07:36.000 And Rachel Maddow's question, which I believe we have it, Rachel Maddow's question is so ridiculous.

00:07:41.000 She says, I've never even seen someone testify for 11 hours. 0.66

00:07:43.000 I've never heard anything like it.

00:07:45.000 That's incredible.

00:07:46.000 You testifying for 11 hours.

00:07:48.000 Folks, the people in Benghazi were under actual direct murder assault for seven hours.

00:07:53.000 Okay, if we're gonna talk a scale of human heroism and decency, I'm gonna go with seven hours under fire from terrorists over 11 hours of sitting on a flower-embroidered cushion in an air-conditioned room anytime.

00:08:06.000 But here was Hillary Clinton's answer, and I think that it really does speak to who Hillary Clinton is and how much she cares about the people who are dead and the safety of our diplomats.

00:08:17.000 This is really telling.

00:08:19.000 What does a person do after 11 hours of testimony?

00:08:23.000 You're the only human being I know of on earth who's done 11 straight hours.

00:08:27.000 What did you do after?

00:08:28.000 Well, I had my whole team come over to my house and we sat around eating Indian food and drinking wine and beer.

00:08:35.000 That's what we did.

00:08:36.000 It was great.

00:08:37.000 And was it like, let's just talk about TV, let's not talk about what just happened?

00:08:40.000 Yeah, we were all talking about sports, TV shows.

00:08:45.000 It was great.

00:08:49.000 And this is a woman who cares deeply, obviously, about what happened in Benghazi.

00:08:53.000 This is someone who takes very seriously her obligations to come clean.

00:08:57.000 So she lies repeatedly, and then she chortles on national TV about, yeah, she went and she ate Indian food, and she had wine, and she partied.

00:09:07.000 And this is becoming a common theme with the Democrats.

00:09:10.000 We talked briefly last week about the fact that Democrats, the same night that some of these Benghazi hearings were going on, Democrats had a party in the House, and they had a string quartet in to celebrate the Iran deal.

00:09:22.000 These are supposed to be the people who take our national security so seriously.

00:09:25.000 Hillary's the serious candidate. 0.98

00:09:27.000 She's the serious one.

00:09:28.000 Bernie Sanders isn't serious.

00:09:29.000 Hillary's serious.

00:09:30.000 She's experienced.

00:09:31.000 She's serious.

00:09:31.000 She has gravitas.

00:09:33.000 And here she is joking on national TV about what she did right after.

00:09:37.000 What did she do? 0.80

00:09:37.000 She went and she partied. 0.80

00:09:39.000 She went and she partied.

00:09:40.000 Which, by the way, is basically no different than what she did the night of Benghazi.

00:09:43.000 She went specifically home in the middle of the attack.

00:09:46.000 She didn't stay at the State Department.

00:09:48.000 She didn't head over to the White House Situation Room.

00:09:50.000 She went home, and according to her, she laughed about this.

00:09:53.000 She was alone the rest of the night.

00:09:54.000 She didn't talk with the Secretary of Defense.

00:09:55.000 She didn't talk with the head of the CIA.

00:09:57.000 She talked with no one.

00:09:59.000 This is the woman who we are supposed to believe cared deeply. 0.99

00:10:02.000 And the reason I'm focusing on this is because Republicans have this idiotic tendency to give Democrats the benefit of the doubt on this sort of stuff. 1.00

00:10:10.000 So Hillary was incompetent. 1.00

00:10:11.000 So she made mistakes. 0.95

00:10:13.000 So she had the wrong idea.

00:10:14.000 But we don't have the capacity to ask whether she cared or not.

00:10:18.000 That would be mean.

00:10:19.000 That would be cruel.

00:10:21.000 I typically, as both a Republican and a Jew, I typically don't care about people's motives.

00:10:24.000 I'm not big on motivation.

00:10:26.000 I think that your action matters much more than your motive.

00:10:28.000 But apparently the American people disagree with me because this is the only reason Barack Obama was elected.

00:10:33.000 They feel that he had good motivations even though he stinks at his job.

00:10:36.000 So if we're now in the business of assessing motives based on the only evidence in front of us,

00:10:41.000 I submit that tape right there of Hillary Clinton and Rachel Maddow as Exhibit A in the case that Hillary Clinton does not give one good damn about what happened to Chris Stevens other than how it affected her political career.

00:10:55.000 But, you know, the media will defend her, and they'll say that she still is somebody who we should respect and treat with utmost respect with regard to all of this.

00:11:02.000 It really is kind of sickening.

00:11:03.000 Now, speaking of Hillary Clinton not really caring, Hillary Clinton also made a boo-boo on the VA scandal. 1.00

00:11:09.000 She was asked about the Veterans Administration scandal.

00:11:11.000 The fact is that Veterans Affairs has been basically—the hospitals are poorly run, and that means that veterans are waiting for months at a time.

00:11:19.000 Months.

00:11:20.000 To get in and see their doctors.

00:11:21.000 Some of them are dying online.

00:11:23.000 Hillary Clinton poo-pooed the entire scandal.

00:11:25.000 And amazingly, the media decided that they weren't going to focus on it.

00:11:28.000 Here's what Hillary had to say about the VA scandal. 0.92

00:11:34.000 Satisfied with their treatment.

00:11:36.000 Much more so than people in the regular system.

00:11:38.000 It's exactly right.

00:11:39.000 Now nobody would believe that from the coverage that you see and the constant berating of the VA that comes from the Republicans in part in pursuit of this ideological agenda.

00:11:50.000 But in part because there has been real scandal.

00:11:53.000 But it's not been as widespread as it has been made out to be.

00:11:57.000 Oh, it hasn't been that widespread.

00:11:59.000 Hundreds of thousands of veterans waiting in line, not that widespread.

00:12:02.000 Now imagine if Donald Trump for a second had said the VA scandal wasn't that bad.

00:12:06.000 Imagine if he said that.

00:12:07.000 Can you imagine the outrage?

00:12:08.000 Can you imagine the uproar?

00:12:10.000 The media have decided that Hillary Clinton is the next president of the United States, as we knew they would.

00:12:15.000 And thus, it doesn't matter what she says from here on in.

00:12:17.000 She can lie in front of congressional committees. 1.00

00:12:19.000 She can lie and then joke about how she has Indian food and wine with all of her buddies and plans the next steps in her political campaign. 1.00

00:12:26.000 It will make no difference whatsoever.

00:12:29.000 Now, meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle, Donald Trump

00:12:33.000 It's been an interesting weekend for Donald Trump because there are two things happening.

00:12:36.000 One is that Donald Trump has successfully driven Jeb Bush out of the Republican race.

00:12:40.000 Jeb hasn't dropped out yet, but it's a matter of time now.

00:12:42.000 And on the other hand, he's actually having his milkshake drinking, drunk, by Ben Carson.

00:12:47.000 Ben Carson is now ahead by double digits.

00:12:50.000 In some of the polls in Iowa, latest poll today from Monmouth came out.

00:12:54.000 He's at 32, Trump is at 18.

00:12:56.000 So Carson is at 32, Trump is at 18.

00:12:58.000 Carson said something I want to analyze in a little while, and it's the reason why I think Carson is gaining in popularity.

00:13:03.000 But first, I want to talk about Jeb Bush and his imploding candidacy for a second.

00:13:08.000 If you look at the odds makers, when this Republican race first started,

00:13:12.000 Jeb Bush was the guy who they said was going to be the nominee.

00:13:14.000 This was the conventional establishment wisdom, is that Jeb Bush was going to be the nominee.

00:13:19.000 And you can tell that Jeb Bush is about five seconds away from dropping out.

00:13:22.000 Here is Jeb Bush over the weekend, suggesting that he has lots of better things to do than run for president.

00:13:27.000 Seriously, here's Jeb Bush, former governor of Florida.

00:13:29.000 This election is about how we're going to fight to get nothing done.

00:13:32.000 I don't want anything, I don't want any part of it.

00:13:35.000 I don't want to be elected president to sit around and see gridlock just become so dominant that people literally are in decline in their lives.

00:13:42.000 That is not my motivation.

00:13:44.000 I got a lot of really cool things that I could do other than sit around being miserable, listening to people demonize me and me feeling compelled to demonize them.

00:13:52.000 That is a joke.

00:13:54.000 Elect Trump if you want that.

00:13:57.000 That dude is done.

00:13:59.000 That dude is toast.

00:14:00.000 And you can put that in the refrigerator.

00:14:03.000 It's over, gang.

00:14:05.000 He is done, done, done.

00:14:06.000 And you can tell he's angry now because he's the only Bush who won't be elected president.

00:14:10.000 Barbara now has a better shot. 0.99

00:14:12.000 And the fact that Jeb is so upset is because Donald Trump drove him out of the race.

00:14:16.000 Donald Trump drove him out of the race with two things.

00:14:18.000 A correct labeling of the flaws of the Jeb Bush candidacy, and the fact that he has more name recognition than Jeb.

00:14:24.000 The only reason Jeb going in had any strength is because of the name recognition that attaches to him.

00:14:28.000 Trump took away the name recognition advantage and then pointed out, quite correctly, that Jeb is a milquetoast.

00:14:34.000 This is the first time I've seen Jeb passionate on the campaign trail the entire time.

00:14:37.000 He's more passionate bashing Trump right here than he was defending his wife in the second Republican presidential debate.

00:14:42.000 I mean, that one moment in that debate, just by way of digression.

00:14:46.000 If you're going to go after somebody for attacking your wife, you actually have to do it.

00:14:50.000 That exchange was so bizarre, where Jeb turns to Trump and he says, you're attacking my wife.

00:14:54.000 I want you to apologize.

00:14:55.000 And Trump looks at him and goes, nah.

00:14:57.000 And Jeb goes, OK.

00:14:59.000 And they start to move on.

00:15:01.000 At that very moment, you knew that Jeb was basically done.

00:15:04.000 Trump, however, despite having knocked Jeb out of the race, he's actually now watching his milkshake

00:15:11.000 Being drunk by Ben Carson.

00:15:14.000 And there's a reason for that, and it's because Ben Carson is speaking a language that people understand.

00:15:22.000 Donald Trump is speaking two languages that people understand, but they're in conflict with each other.

00:15:26.000 So Donald Trump says one thing, and then a minute later, he says something completely different.

00:15:29.000 Carson is actually consistent, and he's using analogies and language that people understand, and he's saying controversial things that are absolutely supportable.

00:15:37.000 I'm starting to fall in love with Ben Carson, not because I think that Ben Carson is going to be President of the United States or ought to get the nomination, but because Ben Carson says stuff like this.

00:15:47.000 Ben Carson was asked over the weekend about his position on abortion, his pro-life position.

00:15:52.000 And in the course of his answer, he started comparing the abolitionists of slavery to the pro-life movement.

00:16:00.000 And the media is all over him for this today.

00:16:04.000 I could not love this more.

00:16:05.000 Here's Ben Carson talking about the pro-life movement.

00:16:09.000 Think about this.

00:16:11.000 During slavery, and I know that's one of those words you're not supposed to say, but I'm saying it.

00:16:16.000 During slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought that they had the right to do whatever they wanted to that slave.

00:16:22.000 Anything that they chose to do.

00:16:26.000 And, you know, what if the abolitionist had said, you know, I don't believe in slavery.

00:16:32.000 I think it's wrong.

00:16:34.000 But you guys do whatever you want to do.

00:16:37.000 Where would we be?

00:16:39.000 I love it.

00:16:40.000 I love it so much.

00:16:41.000 Ben Carson has these moments.

00:16:43.000 He has these moments.

00:16:44.000 He, like Trump, has these moments.

00:16:45.000 He can either be a 0 or he can be a 10.

00:16:47.000 Here, he's a 10.

00:16:47.000 This is as good as it gets for Ben Carson.

00:16:49.000 He will not say anything during this campaign that is better than what he just said here, for a couple of reasons.

00:16:54.000 One, he is absolutely 100% factually correct in what he just said.

00:16:58.000 Slavery is based on the idea that you can devalue another human being for your own benefit.

00:17:02.000 That's what slavery is about. 1.00

00:17:04.000 He's not a human because I don't want him to be a human. 0.98

00:17:06.000 Therefore, I can force him to work in my field and whip him whenever I choose and sell his children. 0.95

00:17:10.000 Abortion is based on the exact same logic.

00:17:12.000 If it's convenient for me, then that baby isn't a baby.

00:17:15.000 Now that baby is a ball of tissue.

00:17:17.000 And I don't care what pictures you show me.

00:17:18.000 I don't care what science says.

00:17:20.000 That unborn child isn't a child because it's inconvenient for it to be a child. 0.78

00:17:24.000 And Ben Carson, by the way, he doesn't give the historical context, but the truth is that what Ben Carson says, the sort of safe, legal, and rare position that he's critiquing right there, which is held by many of his fellow Republicans, that I personally am pro-life, but that doesn't mean that I would, for example, push for a constitutional amendment to protect life, leave it as a state's rights issue or a populist issue.

00:17:47.000 That was the position of one of the major candidates

00:17:49.000 During the Civil War, just prior to the Civil War, that was the Stephen A. Douglas position, right?

00:17:53.000 Lincoln ran against Douglas.

00:17:54.000 The famous Lincoln-Douglas debates were not presidential debates, they were Senate debates.

00:17:58.000 And one of the issues that they talked about specifically was, what would you do about the issue of slavery expanding across the United States?

00:18:05.000 Lincoln's position was that the federal government should basically get rid of slavery.

00:18:09.000 And the position of Douglas was that states should decide on their own whether slavery should be allowed or not.

00:18:16.000 Now, Douglas was actually personally anti-slavery.

00:18:19.000 But he argued for popular sovereignty.

00:18:20.000 This was the phrase he used.

00:18:21.000 Popular sovereignty with regard to deciding it.

00:18:24.000 And if Douglass had had his way, there wouldn't have been a Civil War, maybe.

00:18:27.000 And at the very least, at the very least, slavery would have lasted a much longer time in the United States.

00:18:33.000 When it comes to abortion, Ben Carson is exactly right. 1.00

00:18:35.000 And because Ben Carson is black, and there's no way around this, Ben Carson is black, so he can say slavery. 0.91

00:18:39.000 This is what's going on here. 0.95

00:18:40.000 Right?

00:18:41.000 I can say Holocaust. 0.98

00:18:42.000 Ben Carson can say slavery. 1.00

00:18:43.000 This is the way that our stupid politics works now. 0.99

00:18:46.000 I can also make the same argument that Ben Carson has made, and I've made it before, but if you're a black guy and you say slavery, people take it more seriously, and you have the ability to ride out the storm. 0.98

00:18:55.000 This is why Ben Carson is popular, because he says stuff like this, and he should be popular for saying stuff like this, because this is grand, and Americans should hear this on a regular basis, and I wish to God that some of the other Republican candidates would say similar stuff.

00:19:08.000 Ben Carson is a more surrogate candidate than Hillary Clinton.

00:19:12.000 Ben Carson was asked over the weekend about whether he would do Saturday Night Live.

00:19:16.000 And Donald Trump is doing Saturday Night Live.

00:19:18.000 And he was asked about this.

00:19:20.000 And Ben Carson said this when he was asked about doing Saturday Night Live.

00:19:24.000 How about being guest host on Saturday Night Live?

00:19:26.000 Does that interest you?

00:19:27.000 No.

00:19:27.000 Why not?

00:19:29.000 Because I think the presidency of the United States is a very serious thing.

00:19:33.000 And I don't even want to begin to put it in the light of comedy.

00:19:40.000 Okay, that's why this guy has a serious shot at the nomination.

00:19:43.000 A better shot than Donald Trump, I think, at this point.

00:19:45.000 I really do.

00:19:45.000 I don't think that his poll numbers are going to drop precipitously.

00:19:48.000 I think that Ben Carson is demonstrating a seriousness of purpose that could play very well here.

00:19:54.000 It could really play very well.

00:19:55.000 And it deserves to play well.

00:19:56.000 Because, honest to God, our politics have become such a joke now.

00:19:59.000 They really have.

00:20:00.000 I mean, this is why people are laughing at Hillary and Trump.

00:20:02.000 Hillary is on Saturday Night Live and the President of the United States, the President of the United States, is taking pictures of himself with a selfie stick and doing interviews with the woman most famous for bathing in Froot Loops and milk in an actual bathtub.

00:20:15.000 He did that with a YouTube star named GloZell.

00:20:19.000 Ben Carson, what he says right there, would that all of our politicians had that sort of dignity?

00:20:24.000 Would that all of our politicians said these sorts of things with this sort of strength and this sort of calm?

00:20:30.000 I think Ben Carson is actually starting to look like a really formidable candidate.

00:20:34.000 And I have disagreements with him on foreign policy, and I want to know more about his foreign policy.

00:20:38.000 He's made some comments about foreign policy that concern me.

00:20:41.000 He said in one of the debates that he wouldn't have invaded Afghanistan, and then he backed off of that.

00:20:45.000 I still have concerns about his foreign policy, although I believe he is using John Bolton apparently as an advisor.

00:20:50.000 But the fact is this.

00:20:51.000 If Ben Carson continues to say stuff like this, this is stuff that gets across to the American people.

00:20:57.000 And I do think there's something to be said for the idea that there's a seriousness in politics that we all ought to take seriously rather than joking about Indian food.

00:21:07.000 Or talking about Megyn Kelly's period.

00:21:10.000 There are more important things in life than the next headline.

00:21:13.000 And I think that Ben Carson understands that.

00:21:15.000 And so, this is not an endorsement of Ben Carson.

00:21:17.000 There are a lot of serious candidates in the race.

00:21:18.000 Ted Cruz is a very serious candidate.

00:21:21.000 For what it's worth, I think Marco Rubio is a half-serious candidate.

00:21:23.000 I don't think he's a fully serious candidate.

00:21:25.000 I think he's a half-serious candidate.

00:21:27.000 But in order for the Republican Party to win, Ben Carson is going to get through to more people than a lot of the other Republican candidates.

00:21:33.000 We need more Ben Carson in the party, and we need less Jeb Bush in the party.

00:21:36.000 And I think that we're going to get it if we keep pushing for it.

00:21:39.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:21:39.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - October 26, 2015

Ep. 14 - Don't Kill Baby Hitler

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