The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 142 - When The Left Says Science They Really Mean 'Shut Up'

00:00:00.000 On Monday, science advocate Neil deGrasse Tyson took to Twitter to issue another of his myriad idiotic thought-vomit missives. 0.98

00:00:06.000 It said, This, of course, is typical stuff from Tyson, who considers himself a genius, but also tweets things like this. 0.98

00:00:10.000 He says,

00:00:29.000 Bats are not blind.

00:00:31.000 He also tweeted,

00:00:38.000 What?

00:00:39.000 But his main point in this tweet is the same as that of most bureaucratic leftists.

00:00:43.000 There's an intellectual oligarchy capable of determining scientific truth and ruling accordingly.

00:00:49.000 So all you peons should bow before the great and powerful vested Oz. 0.91

00:00:54.000 Now, there are some issues on which scientific truth can be ascertained, but those issues pretty much never have anything to do with public policy.

00:01:01.000 So we all agree that gravity exists.

00:01:03.000 That doesn't determine whether we ought to build a machine to defy gravity and shoot it to the moon, for example.

00:01:08.000 More broadly, public policy should, of course, be evidence-based, but we have a problem of judgment.

00:01:12.000 What evidence counts?

00:01:13.000 How heavily should we weigh certain evidence against other evidence?

00:01:16.000 How do we weigh risks?

00:01:18.000 What makes an astrophysicist from Colombia more capable of weighing risk to my life than anybody else? 1.00

00:01:23.000 Why shouldn't we all get a say?

00:01:25.000 There is no evidence to suggest that one big, special astrophysicist man knows better than the aggregated knowledge of billions of people.

00:01:33.000 In fact, precisely the opposite is true.

00:01:35.000 Let's take, for example, one of Neil deGrasse Tyson's favorite issues, global warming.

00:01:39.000 Let's accept Tyson's incorrect premise that global warming is nearly entirely man-made.

00:01:44.000 Presumably, Tyson would then say, we have to shut down vast swaths of industry across the world.

00:01:49.000 But how are we supposed to determine the risks from global warming when all the predictions contain high levels of uncertainty?

00:01:54.000 How do we determine whether a given measure actually stops global warming and whether the risk of destroying the living standards of billions of people is worth the cost?

00:02:02.000 Most importantly, what gives Neil deGrasse Tyson or anybody else the moral wherewithal to prize his own priorities, you know, flooding a hundred years from now, more than the poor person who loses his job and has his life shortened by decades to fulfill Neil deGrasse Tyson's priorities?

00:02:16.000 Here's the thing.

00:02:17.000 There are no easy answers here, even where scientists presumably have a higher capacity for analyzing the evidence.

00:02:23.000 Values in the end still determine risk assessment.

00:02:26.000 The people still have a right to a say in their own lives.

00:02:28.000 So, take another issue.

00:02:29.000 Look at crime, or abortion, or taxes.

00:02:32.000 We can have all the same evidence on the table and still disagree.

00:02:35.000 What magic reason king would be able to invariably determine the proper measures based on a proper calculation of the evidence?

00:02:42.000 And why do I get the peculiar feeling that this magical reason king in Neil deGrasse Tyson's mind looks exactly like Neil deGrasse Tyson?

00:02:50.000 The purpose of a republic is to avoid the divine right of kings or the divine right of bureaucrats.

00:02:54.000 Rationalia, from Tyson's country, doesn't exist, not because rationality doesn't exist, but because only intellectually bigoted people think rationality isn't impacted by the value premises that you choose.

00:03:08.000 Rationalia, in practice, ends up looking like tyranny.

00:03:10.000 The Soviet Union thought it was rational, so did Nazi Germany, so does North Korea. 0.61

00:03:14.000 No dictator has ever thought that he was irrational.

00:03:17.000 Maybe Neil deGrasse Tyson would be a benevolent dictator.

00:03:19.000 Maybe he would be.

00:03:20.000 But historically, tyranny based on self-proclaimed rationality hasn't been.

00:03:24.000 Maybe if Tyson actually cared about that evidence, he'd stop promoting his own personal utopia.

00:03:29.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:03:30.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

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00:04:13.000 Okay, so we begin today with fallout from Hillary and Trump.

00:04:18.000 So there's some new polling data, and I think that it's worthwhile going through this polling data.

00:04:22.000 If you look at the headline on Drudge right now, it's shock poll.

00:04:24.000 Clinton and Trump in dead heat.

00:04:26.000 And there is a poll from Quinnipiac today that shows that Clinton is leading Trump 42-40.

00:04:32.000 Now, that's not... I mean, statistically it's a tie because it's within the margin of error, but it's just another poll where Hillary is a little bit ahead. 0.89

00:04:38.000 And people are going nuts over this.

00:04:39.000 Look at how close this is.

00:04:40.000 This is so close.

00:04:41.000 And if you put in third-party candidates, then it becomes a 39-Clinton, 37-Trump race, which demonstrates that, like, a third of the public just wants to kill themselves rather than vote, basically.

00:04:51.000 But, you know, this is presumably good news for the Trump campaign.

00:04:55.000 This is presumably good news for the Trump campaign.

00:04:58.000 There's another problem, though, and that is that there's a new poll out from the battleground states, and this battleground state poll basically shows that

00:05:07.000 It's not that close.

00:05:09.000 This battleground state poll shows that Hillary is destroying Trump in virtually every battleground state. 1.00

00:05:14.000 So right now, she's beating him 51-37 in Florida, 45-41 in Iowa, 50-33 in Michigan, 48-38 in North Carolina, 46-37 in Ohio, 49-35 in Pennsylvania, and 45-38 in Virginia.

00:05:27.000 Now, the people who love Trump and think he's gonna win, they've started to do the un-skew-the-polls-don't-trust-the-polls routine.

00:05:35.000 Nate Silver came out today.

00:05:36.000 He says there's about a 79% shot that, as things currently stand, Trump loses to Hillary Clinton.

00:05:41.000 That could change, obviously.

00:05:42.000 That's how forecasting works.

00:05:43.000 You forecast based on the material in front of you right now.

00:05:46.000 He's not predicting what's gonna happen tomorrow.

00:05:48.000 Maybe Hillary drops dead of a heart attack, right? 1.00

00:05:50.000 But he is predicting, based on current conditions, how would this go.

00:05:54.000 People are very upset with Nate Silver.

00:05:56.000 For saying this, and they're upset because they say, well, Nate Silver got Trump wrong in the beginning. 0.99

00:05:59.000 The reason Nate Silver got Trump wrong is because, and he's admitted this, like an idiot, he ignored his own polling data. 0.99

00:06:06.000 He thought he was smarter than the polls. 0.99

00:06:08.000 Here he's saying, here's what the polls say, right?

00:06:10.000 If you look at 538, which I follow closely, if you look at 538, they always have two measures.

00:06:14.000 One is called the Polls Measure, and one is the Polls Plus Measure.

00:06:17.000 The Polls Measure is more accurate than the Polls Plus Measure.

00:06:20.000 Polls Plus is sort of his opinion mixed in.

00:06:23.000 With the polls, and that was less accurate.

00:06:25.000 The polls themselves actually are pretty accurate.

00:06:27.000 The bottom line here is this, people are saying this is a close race, it's getting closer.

00:06:30.000 The reason it's getting closer is not, is not because Trump is getting more popular. 1.00

00:06:35.000 The reason this race is getting closer is because Hillary is an utter crap show. 1.00

00:06:40.000 It's because Hillary is a turd tornado. 1.00

00:06:43.000 Hillary Clinton is so unlikable on every level that she is making this into an extraordinarily close race. 1.00

00:06:48.000 And the evidence of this is that in the last 20 polls, in the last 20 polls, there is one poll, one, where Donald Trump polls above 41%.

00:06:56.000 One.

00:06:57.000 Hillary's all over the place. 1.00

00:06:58.000 By the way, she leads in all 20 of these polls, but

00:07:00.000 In these polls, her level of support ranges from 42%, 40%, all the way up to 51%.

00:07:06.000 So basically, the American public is trying to convince themselves, Oh God, are we really going to vote for this person?

00:07:12.000 I can't believe we're going to vote for this person.

00:07:13.000 And then she says something, they go, fine, I'm not going to even vote.

00:07:16.000 I'm not going to bother.

00:07:17.000 I'm just going to go to a barbecue and stick my head in the oven.

00:07:20.000 You know, that's, that's, that's sort of the calculation that's going on.

00:07:23.000 So the volatility in this race is not about Trump.

00:07:26.000 Trump's not volatile.

00:07:27.000 He's not going anywhere.

00:07:28.000 The volatility is about Hillary.

00:07:30.000 Will Hillary make herself- Hillary's running against Hillary now. 1.00

00:07:33.000 Will Hillary make herself so unpopular that she loses to Trump? 0.98

00:07:36.000 Because Trump isn't gonna make himself more popular.

00:07:38.000 He's not.

00:07:39.000 He's been stagnant in these polls for literally months.

00:07:41.000 Right?

00:07:42.000 Hillary's just going up and down like a yo-yo. 1.00

00:07:44.000 So, the reason that she keeps going up and down is because she's awful. 1.00

00:07:47.000 She's an awful person. 1.00

00:07:48.000 She's a terrible, terrible person. 1.00

00:07:49.000 She's a vile, corrupt heretic with a history of defending her rapist husband and a history of lying in order to get ahead. 1.00

00:07:56.000 She's awful in every possible way. 1.00

00:07:58.000 And more evidence of that came out yesterday, obviously, with regard to Benghazi.

00:08:01.000 So, the mother of one of the Benghazi victims was on Megyn Kelly's show last night.

00:08:05.000 My heart goes out to you as a mother.

00:08:06.000 I know how difficult it must have been for you, and you were not able to stay throughout the whole movie.

00:08:09.000 I left as soon as Sean came on screen, or the person that portrayed him.

00:08:12.000 I couldn't handle it. 1.00

00:08:36.000 Hillary's a liar! 1.00

00:08:38.000 I know what she told me! 1.00

00:08:39.000 Oh, Pat.

00:08:43.000 I know it must be so hard.

00:08:46.000 So many people want to put this behind them and say Hillary sat there and she testified.

00:08:51.000 She testified for her own 13 hours and they say it's done.

00:08:56.000 They say there's no story about Benghazi and that she did everything she could do through the fog of war and she came right out and said she is not lying.

00:09:05.000 Suggesting you are the one who's lying about what happened at that Air Force base.

00:09:09.000 Bull feathers! 1.00

00:09:13.000 That's just plain old bull.

00:09:16.000 I know what she said, and not only did she say it, but Obama said the same thing to me, and Panetta, and Biden, and Susan Rice.

00:09:27.000 I went up to all of them, begging them to tell me what happened.

00:09:31.000 And they all said that it was the video.

00:09:35.000 Okay, so, this obviously is true.

00:09:38.000 I mean, what she's saying is true. 1.00

00:09:39.000 Hillary's a liar and Hillary's a terrible person. 1.00

00:09:40.000 And this image, which we all remember of Hillary standing in front of the coffins, jabbering about YouTube videos offending Muslims. 1.00

00:09:47.000 It's devastating that this woman is a candidate for high office. 0.94

00:09:49.000 It really is. 0.98

00:09:50.000 She's awful in every way. 0.74

00:09:51.000 Even Chris Matthews over at MSNBC!

00:09:53.000 Chris Matthews!

00:09:54.000 Even he says, it's unbelievable!

00:09:56.000 I mean, look at this report!

00:09:57.000 Can you even believe it?

00:09:58.000 First I come here and I comb my hair with a shoe?

00:10:00.000 And I sit in front of a camera and I talk?

00:10:02.000 That's okay!

00:10:04.000 I love Hillary Clinton.

00:10:05.000 I mean, I would whack Hillary Clinton's cankles if I could, but let me tell you, even I'm disturbed by all this.

00:10:09.000 What say you, Michael Isikoff? 0.80

00:10:11.000 Go! 0.95

00:10:12.000 If you had somebody or any other American out there in the third world, in a tricky situation, there's a revolutionary country, and you heard they were just under attack, and there may be some people still alive there, wouldn't you do everything you could?

00:10:24.000 Isn't that part of our culture, to go back and try to save?

00:10:28.000 Our people leave nobody behind?

00:10:29.000 It's an old Marine rule?

00:10:31.000 And shouldn't we really make an effort?

00:10:33.000 What do you think happened in that three-hour meeting in the White House?

00:10:36.000 They were dithering around.

00:10:37.000 You know, I think it's useful information myself.

00:10:39.000 I want to know when there's a screw-up, a snafu here, this portent, because those other two guys were killed later.

00:10:45.000 Maybe we could have saved him.

00:10:49.000 He's right, of course.

00:10:50.000 When you lose Chris Matthews, then you've lost your own base.

00:10:54.000 And it's clear.

00:10:55.000 Everyone knows Hillary's terrible. 1.00

00:10:56.000 Like Hillary is going around going, I don't know why everyone thinks I'm terrible.

00:11:01.000 And the truth is, she knows, just doesn't want to acknowledge it. 0.99

00:11:05.000 She's corrupt and she's awful in every way. 1.00

00:11:07.000 And again, as I've said before, the only candidate in the race who can make Hillary Clinton look palatable is Donald Trump. 0.99

00:11:13.000 And the only candidate in the race who can make Donald Trump look palatable is Hillary Clinton. 0.65

00:11:17.000 This Benghazi report comes out yesterday, and the material in it really is quite devastating.

00:11:21.000 And the media keeps playing this game, the media keep playing this game where we're supposed to pretend there's nothing new, there's no narrative here, it's old news, just put it behind us.

00:11:28.000 Let's talk about all the new things about Hillary Clinton.

00:11:30.000 There are no new things about Hillary Clinton.

00:11:32.000 The last thing that was new about Hillary Clinton happened in like 1973. 1.00

00:11:35.000 I mean, there's nothing new about Hillary Clinton. 0.52

00:11:38.000 Jim Jordan, who's a congressman from Ohio, he says that, he's talking about the report, he says that Benghazi was basically a suicide mission.

00:11:45.000 So this was so big, this was such a part of their legacy, that they, you know, she's on the same side as the goddess of history, for goodness sake.

00:11:54.000 And so they were committed to staying there, even though the security situation was so bad, so bad that one diplomatic security agent said, Benghazi is a suicide mission, everybody there is going to die.

00:12:06.000 That's how bad it was.

00:12:06.000 But they were committed to staying there.

00:12:09.000 And then, of course, we get a terrorist attack on September 11, 2012, and they're 56 days

00:12:16.000 And of course, that's true.

00:12:17.000 Trey Gowdy, who is out there playing lawyer in his hair, changes radically day to day.

00:12:21.000 But Trey Gowdy, who is from South Carolina, is a prosecutor, and he leads the House Select Committee on Benghazi.

00:12:29.000 He was smacking the CIA for their cover-up.

00:12:31.000 They apparently were unwilling to answer questions.

00:12:34.000 About exactly how the embassy was evacuated, because it was evacuated, it turns out, not by Hillary Clinton's friends, the Libyan people.

00:12:40.000 It was evacuated by all the people who used to work with Muammar Gaddafi, the guy who she sat there and chortled about having had killed in a coup.

00:12:48.000 So here's Trey Gowdy talking about it.

00:12:50.000 We were led to believe that it was friendly Libyan militias that helped defend the annex during the night and came to our rescue after Ty and Glenn were killed.

00:13:00.000 That is not what the witnesses told us.

00:13:02.000 One in particular, and I hasten the ad, CIA did not want us talking to this witness.

00:13:06.000 They made it very difficult for us to talk to this witness, but we found him.

00:13:11.000 And what this witness told us is he worked the phone trying to find someone to come save them.

00:13:18.000 And he wound up calling a group that none of the other committees identified, none of the other committees knew about it, and it was comprised of former military officials under Qaddafi.

00:13:29.000 And they came, and not only did they evacuate our guys, Andrea, they saved other lives.

00:13:36.000 We had people, not just the four killed, there were people severely wounded.

00:13:42.000 So time is of the essence.

00:13:44.000 I just found it.

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00:14:32.000 Okay, so that being said, now let's move on to Donald Trump.

00:14:36.000 Okay, good Trump, bad Trump. 0.97

00:14:37.000 So we know Hillary Clinton is an absolute disaster area. 1.00

00:14:40.000 We know that she's a manipulative, terrible person. 1.00

00:14:43.000 The worst person in American politics. 0.99

00:14:46.000 And she honestly, as a human being, she makes Barack Obama look like a piker. 1.00

00:14:50.000 She's a terrible human being. 1.00

00:14:51.000 And Hillary Clinton 0.90

00:14:54.000 Because of that, people are struggling with, okay, I don't like Trump, but I also don't like Hillary Clinton, so Hillary's numbers are bouncing up and down.

00:15:01.000 They're bouncing up and down.

00:15:02.000 Trump's numbers continue to stall.

00:15:04.000 They're just exactly where they were, and so whenever people say that this is a dead heat, that's almost solely reliant on whether Hillary makes a mistake. 0.85

00:15:11.000 Trump making a mistake dumps him between 33 and 40 percent.

00:15:14.000 Hillary making a mistake dumps her between 49 and 40 percent.

00:15:17.000 So on Trump's best day, on his best day and Hillary's worst day, they might be tied. 0.97

00:15:22.000 On Trump's best day and her best day, she kills him.

00:15:24.000 On his worst day and her best day, it's a disaster area all the way across.

00:15:29.000 Trump, there's good Trump and there's bad Trump.

00:15:30.000 As we know, we like to play good Trump, bad Trump here on The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:15:34.000 So today we will start as always with good Trump because we don't want to be unfair to the Republican nominee.

00:15:39.000 So it's time for a little bit of good Trump.

00:15:40.000 So Trump was talking about terrorism.

00:15:41.000 There's a major attack in Turkey yesterday.

00:15:45.000 Lots of people, 50 people killed in Turkey, another 250 injured, three suicide bombers blew themselves up simultaneously at the Turkish airport.

00:15:53.000 And let me just say this as far as ISIS policy, as far as how to defeat ISIS, it's important to recognize something.

00:16:00.000 The reason that ISIS continues to carry out these terror attacks is because

00:16:04.000 There's a group of people who believe that they are establishing a caliphate.

00:16:08.000 If you destroy the caliphate, if you destroy ISIS land, this area in Syria and Iraq that no longer exists, if they are just utterly wiped out, there is no state, there's nothing, then they just turn back into kind of a normal terrorist group.

00:16:20.000 The reason they're succeeding, you remember a few months back, here on the Ben Shapiro Show, we actually went through a long piece of ISIS propaganda, and the entire thing centered around

00:16:27.000 We've built this massive caliphate that now controls five times the territory of Great Britain, kind of thing.

00:16:32.000 You get rid of that, it makes it very difficult for them to recruit, very difficult for them to make the case they're going to be a success.

00:16:37.000 The problem is, nobody in the region actually has a full interest in getting rid of ISIS.

00:16:41.000 Turkey doesn't have a full interest in getting rid of ISIS because ISIS is a bulwark against Iran.

00:16:46.000 Iran doesn't have a full interest in getting rid of ISIS because they're saying to the world, you need us to stop ISIS.

00:16:51.000 So if ISIS goes away, maybe they turn against Iran again.

00:16:53.000 Syria doesn't want to get rid of ISIS because Bashar Assad is using his attacks on ISIS as cover to kill all of the dissidents who want to get him out of power.

00:17:01.000 Saudi Arabia hates Iran, so they don't like ISIS and they're scared of ISIS, but they also know that ISIS is fighting Iran right now.

00:17:06.000 So nobody really has an interest in getting rid of Iran except for us. 1.00

00:17:09.000 Can't do waterboarding.

00:17:26.000 Which is, it's not the nicest thing, but it's peanuts compared to many alternatives, right?

00:17:32.000 So we can't do waterboarding, but they can do chopping off heads, drowning people in steel cages, they can do whatever they want to do.

00:17:41.000 Okay, so what he's saying here is, of course, right on a moral level, but at the same time, it doesn't go quite far enough, meaning that you should make the case that waterboarding actually helps us gain intelligence.

00:17:51.000 It's not a revenge measure.

00:17:52.000 It's not like we capture a terrorist and waterboard him for fun.

00:17:54.000 It's not you chopped off a guy's head, hey, now we've got you here, let's waterboard you. 0.91

00:17:58.000 It's you capture the guy, you want information from him, but this is at least not bad Trump.

00:18:03.000 If this is not fully good Trump, this is at least not bad Trump.

00:18:05.000 Here's some actual good Trump, I think.

00:18:07.000 Here's Donald Trump talking about how, with regard to the terror war, you have to fight fire with fire. 1.00

00:18:12.000 They probably think we're weak, we're stupid, we don't know what we're doing, we have no leadership. 0.99

00:18:20.000 You know, you have to fight fire with fire. 1.00

00:18:24.000 We have people out there.

00:18:32.000 Because he says we have to fight forever.

00:18:34.000 And that, of course, is true.

00:18:35.000 He doesn't define it, but that's true. 1.00

00:18:36.000 But this is where Trump is better, right?

00:18:37.000 And it shows in polls, in this Quinnipiac poll, more Americans trust Trump to handle ISIS than trust Hillary to handle ISIS.

00:18:43.000 And that's because he uses this sort of language.

00:18:45.000 That's good, Trump.

00:18:46.000 Now, unfortunately, it's time for bad Trump.

00:18:49.000 So bad Trump is Trump did a speech on jobs yesterday.

00:18:53.000 And it's awful.

00:18:54.000 It's full-scale awful. 0.87

00:18:56.000 I mean, it's Bernie Sanders-level awful.

00:18:58.000 Basically, Donald Trump's big plan to bring jobs back to America is to shut down global trade.

00:19:02.000 That's basically his plan.

00:19:03.000 He says it's about enforcing trade agreements, but he's using that as an excuse to just destroy trade agreements.

00:19:08.000 He doesn't like free trade.

00:19:09.000 He thinks that free trade results in lost American jobs. 1.00

00:19:12.000 So before we start on analyzing Trump's speech itself, I want to show you a couple of graphics just so you know how stupid this is. 0.97

00:19:19.000 In terms of what does free trade do for global wealth, what does it do for people who are living all across the world? 0.98

00:19:25.000 And then I'll get to what it does to America, because that's really what Trump cares about.

00:19:27.000 Which is okay!

00:19:29.000 Here's what it does to global wealth.

00:19:30.000 This is chart, this is gonna be chart 21.

00:19:33.000 Okay, here's what it does to global wealth.

00:19:35.000 From 1981 to 2015, this is the percentage of people across the world who are living on less than a buck ninety a day.

00:19:42.000 In 1980, in 1981, 44.3% of all people on planet Earth, nearly half the people on planet Earth, were living in abject poverty.

00:19:51.000 Like the worst sort of poverty.

00:19:52.000 Less than $2 a day they were living on.

00:19:55.000 Now, today, that percentage is 9.6%.

00:19:57.000 You understand?

00:20:00.000 We took the poverty rate across the globe, and we sliced it by a factor of four-fifths, basically.

00:20:07.000 By 80% we sliced it.

00:20:09.000 That's an amazing achievement.

00:20:11.000 That's an incredible achievement.

00:20:13.000 And that is because we are trading with other countries.

00:20:15.000 They're providing us their labor.

00:20:16.000 We're paying them for that labor. 1.00

00:20:17.000 We're buying their products.

00:20:18.000 They're buying our products because now they have money to buy our products because their labor is worth something.

00:20:23.000 Free trade made this happen.

00:20:25.000 1981 is when communism still ruled.

00:20:28.000 One-third of the globe.

00:20:29.000 Communism falls, free trade begins to become the way of the world, and you can see there's a straight line down, a straight line down as free trade begins to predominate across the Western world.

00:20:39.000 So that's what's happened.

00:20:39.000 So don't give me the, it's bad for people all over the world, free trade.

00:20:42.000 No, it's very good for people all over the world, free trade.

00:20:46.000 Second chart.

00:20:46.000 Okay, so what's it done to the United States?

00:20:47.000 So one of the great lies that we've been told, this is chart 20.

00:20:51.000 One of the great lies that we've been told is that the middle class is disappearing, right?

00:20:54.000 We keep hearing this from, we've heard it now from Obama, and from Hillary, and from Trump.

00:20:58.000 The middle class is disappearing, we're getting crushed, the 1% is gaining, and everybody else is losing. 0.95

00:21:02.000 Okay, here's what this chart shows, if you can't see it, folks.

00:21:06.000 Basically, this is a chart that is broken down into five separate segments.

00:21:11.000 It's a bar chart, and it's broken down into five separate segments.

00:21:13.000 From 1980 to 2014, I think it's 2015, it shows the rich, the upper middle class, the middle class, the lower middle class, and the poor and the near poor.

00:21:23.000 Right?

00:21:23.000 And so it shows what percentage of the American population each of those categories comprises.

00:21:30.000 Yes, you see, at the very top, there's that little yellow line.

00:21:33.000 That's the rich people, and that group is getting bigger.

00:21:36.000 That group is getting bigger.

00:21:37.000 And it looks like the middle class is getting a little bit narrower, right?

00:21:40.000 It looks like the middle class is getting slightly narrower from 1980 to 2015.

00:21:42.000 But where is the big gain?

00:21:47.000 The big gain is not in the lower middle class and the poor and near poor.

00:21:50.000 Both of those categories have also shrunk dramatically.

00:21:54.000 What's happening?

00:21:55.000 Look at the massive growth in that green.

00:21:56.000 Look how green goes from like one-tenth of that chart to well over 25% of the chart.

00:22:03.000 Look at that massive growth in the upper middle class.

00:22:05.000 In other words, everybody got richer.

00:22:07.000 Everybody got richer.

00:22:08.000 And they're saying that global trade, that free trade, made Americans poorer.

00:22:12.000 It's not true.

00:22:13.000 That it wiped out the middle class. 0.52

00:22:14.000 It's not true.

00:22:15.000 It's not true.

00:22:16.000 It's from the Urban Institute and the Wall Street Journal, by the way.

00:22:18.000 So statistically, it's just not true.

00:22:20.000 So when Trump says things like, the middle class is getting wiped out, it's getting destroyed...

00:22:25.000 Because we follow the news, and the news tends to cover all the bad things that happen across the world, and this is a point that Andrew Klavan is fond of making, because the news only covers the bad crap that happens all across the world, everybody always thinks crime is getting worse, everybody always thinks that wealth is getting worse, and then they go back to their own lives and they realize, hey, I've sort of had it better than I ever have.

00:22:42.000 Like, I mean, look at all the nice stuff I have in my house.

00:22:44.000 I have a flat screen TV.

00:22:45.000 I mean, I'm old enough to remember when our TV still had, like, a bubble.

00:22:51.000 Right?

00:22:51.000 And it was super heavy.

00:22:53.000 When my wife and I first got married, we got a TV from Craigslist.

00:22:55.000 We couldn't afford a flat screen when we first got married eight years ago.

00:22:58.000 We went to Craigslist for like a hundred bucks.

00:23:01.000 We bought a TV that had to weigh at least 150 pounds.

00:23:06.000 Like, really, it was a massive- it was a big TV, and so it weighed a- I mean, like, it broke.

00:23:10.000 We put it on one of those TV tables, and it actually bent the TV table, like, almost in half, right?

00:23:14.000 Because it weighed so much.

00:23:15.000 Now you have flat screens.

00:23:16.000 The fact is that global trade makes your life better.

00:23:19.000 It makes everybody's life better.

00:23:20.000 In terms of consumption, there are some people who lose their jobs to global trade because they're in industries that are not competitive.

00:23:26.000 So, Donald Trump is now using this.

00:23:28.000 He's saying protectionism is the way.

00:23:30.000 And he's reaching out to the people who have lost their jobs because those jobs have been lost.

00:23:34.000 By the way, most jobs that are lost are not lost to free trade.

00:23:37.000 They're due to technological change, right?

00:23:39.000 They're new machines that are created.

00:23:41.000 Nobody makes rotary telephones anymore, so all the rotary telephone makers are out of business.

00:23:46.000 Nobody is putting up freestanding phone booths on the street anymore because nobody needs a phone booth, right?

00:23:50.000 We all have cell phones.

00:23:52.000 So, Trump thinks that those people have been hurt by free trade.

00:23:55.000 They've really been hurt by technology, and also by the fact that it's much easier to transport goods from foreign countries here, not because of free trade, but because transportation itself has become a lot cheaper.

00:24:05.000 It's a lot easier to fly things.

00:24:06.000 It's a lot easier to ship things in boats.

00:24:08.000 There are more ports.

00:24:09.000 So all of this means it's easier to have a global competition that makes your life better in terms of consumption, but there's a small group of people who lose their jobs and then can't find new jobs because they were in businesses that were phased out or that have been moved overseas because it requires less skill.

00:24:25.000 That's just the way that economics works.

00:24:28.000 And that's unfortunate for those people, but what's more unfortunate is penalizing 99% of the population on behalf of the 1%. 0.64

00:24:34.000 You want to talk about the real 1%? 0.99

00:24:36.000 How about the 1% of people, it's really not 1%, but it's kind of close, like the several percent of people who are saying that we all, everyone, should have to pay a higher tax on the goods they buy in order to pay for this manufacturing to stay in Ohio, for example.

00:24:49.000 That's what a tariff is.

00:24:50.000 Understand what a tariff is.

00:24:52.000 A tariff is not, a tariff is not China's shipping a good here and we just penalize them. 0.98

00:24:56.000 What a tariff is, to boil this down to its simplest aspect, let's say that there's a company in America

00:25:03.000 And it makes steel.

00:25:04.000 And I'm gonna use numbers that don't really have any relation to reality, but it's just simple math.

00:25:07.000 So let's say that we have a company in America, and it makes steel.

00:25:11.000 And it sells steel for $10 a ton.

00:25:14.000 Or $20 a ton.

00:25:15.000 And let's say that it's inefficient.

00:25:17.000 Let's say that there's a Chinese firm that sells steel for $10 a ton.

00:25:20.000 So what the tariff does is it says to the Chinese firm, we're going to tax you $15 a ton, so now when you sell it on the American market, you're selling it for $25 a ton.

00:25:28.000 It's more expensive than the American company, and that forces people to buy American.

00:25:32.000 Sounds great, right?

00:25:33.000 Now look at that.

00:25:34.000 The Chinese company's not doing as well as the American company.

00:25:36.000 You know who's doing worse?

00:25:37.000 The car company that has to buy the steel.

00:25:39.000 Right?

00:25:39.000 The American car company that's now spending more than twice as much as it would have had to for steel,

00:25:45.000 Okay, so with all that as background,

00:26:05.000 Donald Trump has decided the worst thing in life is free trade.

00:26:09.000 Free trade is killing us.

00:26:12.000 He said yesterday it's raping us, as we'll see.

00:26:14.000 Donald Trump gave the speech in Pittsburgh.

00:26:15.000 Now, the irony of giving the speech in Pittsburgh is that Pittsburgh used to be the steel center of the United States, and Trump talked a lot about this.

00:26:22.000 Wasn't it great when Pittsburgh was a steel center of the United States?

00:26:25.000 Wasn't it just terrific when all they used to make was steel in Pittsburgh?

00:26:29.000 Right?

00:26:30.000 So, let's just explain something right now.

00:26:32.000 The unemployment rate in Pittsburgh is 4.6%.

00:26:35.000 That's the unemployment rate in Pittsburgh.

00:26:37.000 Okay?

00:26:38.000 That's not a real high unemployment rate.

00:26:40.000 And that's been true for a long time.

00:26:41.000 The unemployment rate in Pittsburgh in like 2007, before the crash, was 3.8%.

00:26:45.000 So Pittsburgh doesn't have a high unemployment rate.

00:26:48.000 And it used to be, if you think Pittsburgh, most people when they think Pittsburgh, they think the Pittsburgh Steelers, right?

00:26:52.000 You think about steel.

00:26:53.000 Or you think about the deer hunter.

00:26:55.000 Right, the movie from the 70s about them making steel and people going into these grim factories where they're pouring hot iron into vessels and getting all burnt up and the sky is black with soot.

00:27:09.000 Right?

00:27:10.000 Look at Pittsburgh now.

00:27:11.000 Pittsburgh's a beautiful city now.

00:27:12.000 Because it's a high-tech city.

00:27:14.000 Most of the jobs in Pittsburgh are now high-tech and healthcare-related.

00:27:17.000 They've shifted industries.

00:27:18.000 But Trump says this is bad. 0.92

00:27:19.000 So Trump goes to an industrial facility in Pittsburgh, and he stands literally in front of a wall of garbage.

00:27:26.000 He's in Oscar the Grouch's basement, delivering this speech. 0.99

00:27:29.000 He's standing in front of a wall of garbage in order to promote his garbage Trumponomics. 0.97

00:27:33.000 So here's Donald Trump talking about this, talking about how the workers of America have been betrayed. 0.98

00:27:38.000 But our workers' loyalty was repaid, you know it better than anybody, with total betrayal.

00:27:46.000 Our politicians have aggressively pursued a policy of globalization, moving our jobs, our wealth, and our factories to Mexico and overseas.

00:27:58.000 Globalization has made the financial elite who donate to politicians

00:28:03.000 Very, very wealthy.

00:28:06.000 But it's left millions of our workers with nothing but poverty and heartache.

00:28:11.000 Okay, we can stop it there, obviously.

00:28:13.000 So he says that this has been a disaster area for all of us.

00:28:17.000 We're all in trouble.

00:28:18.000 The middle class has been wiped out. 0.93

00:28:19.000 You've lost your job.

00:28:21.000 If you think that the jobs in Mexico are the jobs that we need, I urge you to visit Mexico. 1.00

00:28:26.000 I mean, really, this is this idea that we shift jobs overseas to, like, Bangladesh. 0.82

00:28:30.000 If those are the jobs that are gonna keep America alive, we are so screwed, folks. 0.97

00:28:33.000 We are beyond screwed. 0.92

00:28:34.000 But Trump continues along these lines, and I'll explain to you in a second why all this isn't just wrong, it's dangerous. 0.79

00:28:40.000 It's actually dangerous for the economy and dangerous for Americans.

00:28:43.000 He continues by saying that the politicians do nothing.

00:28:45.000 They do nothing.

00:28:46.000 But I'm gonna do for you, right?

00:28:47.000 Here's Trump.

00:28:48.000 When subsidized foreign steel is dumped into our markets, threatening our factories, the politicians have proven, folks, have proven, they do nothing.

00:29:00.000 Skilled craftsmen and tradespeople and factory workers have seen the jobs they love shipped thousands and thousands of miles away.

00:29:12.000 Okay, so they've had their jobs shifted.

00:29:13.000 First of all, it's not their job, it's a job somebody's gonna fill for pay.

00:29:17.000 Let's imagine for a second, he says, oh, what about countries that come and they dump their cheap steel, their subsidized steel on our market? 1.00

00:29:23.000 That's them being stupid, gang. 1.00

00:29:24.000 Right, that's them being real dumb. 1.00

00:29:25.000 Because that means they're not gonna make as much money as they would if they were actually just competitive. 0.99

00:29:30.000 Because now they're doing what Trump is talking about doing, right?

00:29:33.000 They're actually doing what Trump is talking about doing.

00:29:35.000 Taking money from some of their industries, paying their steel industry to subsidize it,

00:29:39.000 To make it cheap, and then dumping it on our market. 0.93

00:29:41.000 Trump wants us to do the same thing, right?

00:29:43.000 He wants us to take money from the consumer, give it to our steel manufacturers, so presumably then we can dump it on the open market.

00:29:50.000 Here's the reality.

00:29:51.000 If they dump cheap steel on our open market, think back to my analogy for a second.

00:29:55.000 What do you think the car makers do?

00:29:57.000 They're happy, right?

00:29:58.000 I mean, they just pick up the steel, and guess what?

00:29:59.000 Your car just got cheaper.

00:30:01.000 If they feel like being inefficient in the way they allocate their economic resources, and therefore decide to undercut us by subsidizing their industry, and shipping cheap crap over here, good for me! 0.98

00:30:11.000 I get cheap crap. 0.98

00:30:13.000 I don't care. 0.99

00:30:13.000 If I go to the grocery store, and there's one company that is taking a loss, trying to undercut another company by selling cheaper orange juice, 0.99

00:30:20.000 I don't sit there going, oh my god, I can't believe these people trying to undercut this other company by selling cheaper orange juice.

00:30:26.000 That's crazy.

00:30:26.000 How could they?

00:30:27.000 I buy the orange juice, it's cheaper.

00:30:29.000 And the reason for that is because I have my family's priorities.

00:30:32.000 Okay, it's amazing.

00:30:33.000 Trump talks as though there's this global elite out to screw you.

00:30:37.000 When I want to buy something, it is my business from whom I buy.

00:30:41.000 When I want to sell something, it is my business to whom I sell.

00:30:44.000 The only global elite who are trying to stop me are people like Trump, who wants to put restrictions on what I can buy and sell.

00:30:50.000 That's my responsibility, what I can buy and sell.

00:30:53.000 Freedom is what you want to buy and what you want to sell.

00:30:56.000 Where do you choose to trade your labor?

00:30:57.000 Trump wants to get in the way of that in order to help some people.

00:31:00.000 That's redistributionism and that's leftism.

00:31:02.000 That's leftism.

00:31:02.000 Tariffs are leftism.

00:31:03.000 They are government involvement.

00:31:05.000 And we can talk about the history of tariffs briefly, because Trump does this routine where he tries to say the Founding Fathers were in favor of tariffs, and here's the reality about the Founding Fathers in favor of tariffs.

00:31:14.000 The only reason the Founding Fathers used tariffs at the beginning of the Republic, and they were relatively low, is because they had no other method of raising revenue.

00:31:21.000 There was no income tax, it was unconstitutional.

00:31:24.000 And they tried to collect taxes from the states, and the states said no.

00:31:26.000 They said, fine, we'll tariff foreign products that are coming in, it's the only thing we can control.

00:31:30.000 When they actually did establish a massive tariff in 1828, it was called the Tariff of Abominations.

00:31:35.000 That's really what it was called.

00:31:36.000 It was called the Tariff of Abominations because it benefited Northern manufacturing. 0.67

00:31:40.000 We create all these tariffs so manufactured goods couldn't get into the North.

00:31:44.000 But it hurt Southerners because Southerners were shipping out raw materials like cotton, and other people set up their trade barriers. 0.96

00:31:51.000 And now the Southerners couldn't sell their cotton, but the Northerners could sell their heavy machinery.

00:31:55.000 And so the South, actually, the first nullification crisis in American history happened because of a tariff. 0.94

00:32:01.000 The state of South Carolina said to the president, then John Quincy Adams, said to John Quincy Adams, screw you!

00:32:07.000 You don't have the capacity.

00:32:08.000 We're going to ship out our cotton the way we please to ship out our cotton.

00:32:11.000 And we're going to buy how we please to buy.

00:32:13.000 Remember something.

00:32:14.000 America was established, at least partially, in order to fight against tariffs.

00:32:19.000 What do you think the Stamp Act was?

00:32:21.000 The Stamp Act was a tariff.

00:32:23.000 What do you think the Tea Act was?

00:32:24.000 The Tea Act was a tax.

00:32:25.000 These were tariffs.

00:32:26.000 These were taxes on trade.

00:32:29.000 Right?

00:32:30.000 It says in the Declaration of Independence, one of the crimes that we accused King George of, that we accused the Crown of, is restricting our trade.

00:32:37.000 Okay, so the Founding Fathers were not in favor of tariffs.

00:32:41.000 They were not.

00:32:42.000 And tariffs are invariably become a tool of the elite.

00:32:44.000 You want to know the most ironic thing?

00:32:46.000 The Republican Party used to really support tariffs.

00:32:48.000 Basically from the Civil War all the way through like 1930, the Republican Party supported tariffs to their massive detriment.

00:32:56.000 In 1890, it was so unpopular that the Republicans lost the presidency.

00:33:00.000 But the great irony is that in 1912,

00:33:03.000 We passed the 16th Amendment to the Constitution.

00:33:05.000 It was signed in 1913 by Wilson.

00:33:08.000 But in 1912 it really passed.

00:33:10.000 That's when the heavy work was done.

00:33:11.000 The president was William Howard Taft, who was a Republican.

00:33:13.000 The reason that the Republican pushed the income tax, which he was against, why did he do that?

00:33:18.000 Because he was trying to get Democrats to say yes to tariffs.

00:33:21.000 Worst economic trade of all time.

00:33:23.000 So in order to preserve tariffs, we gave the federal government the income tax.

00:33:27.000 By the way, tariffs also helped lead to the Great Depression.

00:33:30.000 They destroyed our economy for 10 years.

00:33:33.000 Tariffs are absolute foolishness.

00:33:36.000 Donald Trump continues nonetheless along these lines. 0.81

00:33:38.000 He says globalization wiped out the middle class.

00:33:40.000 Remember that chart I showed you?

00:33:42.000 Remember that chart that I showed you about the middle class?

00:33:43.000 How the upper middle class has gained and the middle class is shrinking?

00:33:46.000 But so are the poor.

00:33:47.000 So everybody at the upper end is going- the upper end itself is getting larger.

00:33:50.000 Not everybody at the upper end is gaining.

00:33:52.000 The upper end itself is getting larger.

00:33:54.000 It now encompasses a broader swath of people.

00:33:56.000 Here's Trump just denying that.

00:33:58.000 It never happened.

00:33:59.000 This wave of globalization has wiped out totally, totally our middle class.

00:34:06.000 It doesn't have to be this way.

00:34:08.000 We can turn it around, and we can turn it around fast. 0.99

00:34:14.000 Okay, that is absolute crap. 0.96

00:34:15.000 It is based on zero statistical evidence whatsoever. 0.99

00:34:17.000 It has not wiped out our middle class.

00:34:19.000 What is wiping out our middle class are terrible regulations that prevent middle class people from starting businesses.

00:34:24.000 That's hurting our middle class. 0.87

00:34:26.000 That's keeping poor people poor. 0.98

00:34:27.000 But it certainly is not the capacity of a poor person in the United States to buy a microwave for one-fifth the price it used to cost. 0.98

00:34:34.000 That's asinine.

00:34:36.000 What allows the middle class to live like the middle class- By the way, you ever wonder- He talks about the middle class being wiped out. 0.91

00:34:40.000 Why is it that a middle class person now lives better than a rich person did in 1950?

00:34:45.000 Why?

00:34:45.000 Back in 1950, only a rich guy had central air.

00:34:48.000 They didn't even have central air.

00:34:49.000 They had unit air conditioners.

00:34:50.000 Why is it that everyone now has central air?

00:34:52.000 Why does everybody have a fridge?

00:34:53.000 Why does everybody have two TVs?

00:34:55.000 Why does everybody have a car?

00:34:56.000 Why does- Even the poorest person you know probably has an iPhone.

00:34:59.000 Why?

00:35:00.000 That's because of free trade.

00:35:01.000 That's because of free trade. 1.00

00:35:03.000 This stuff is so stupid. 1.00

00:35:05.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

00:35:06.000 It's so ignorant. 1.00

00:35:07.000 But the reason it's politically popular is because any government, and this is leftism, any government program, any government program that benefits a select few, but penalizes a wide variety of people, will tend to succeed politically. 0.92

00:35:20.000 Because the wide variety of people, maybe it hurts me when I go to the grocery store by a factor of 10 bucks, I may not even notice it.

00:35:28.000 But it saved that guy's job, right?

00:35:29.000 So that guy, he feels good about himself, and I don't even notice it, or if I do notice it, it's a mild annoyance.

00:35:34.000 This is why the government can continue raising taxes for welfare and food stamps and redistributionism.

00:35:38.000 They find a select group of people who want benefits, and then they get those people their benefits at the expense of everybody else, and it's politically popular.

00:35:46.000 Okay, so Trump continues along these lines, and now he's openly channeling Bernie Sanders.

00:35:49.000 The right, when it comes to, the far-right Papu Cannon trade group is actually on Bernie Sanders' side when it comes to economics.

00:35:57.000 But if we're going to deliver real change, we're going to have to reject the campaign of fear and intimidation being pursued by powerful corporations, media elites, and political dynasties.

00:36:10.000 The people who rigged the system for their benefit will do anything, and say anything,

00:36:20.000 He's part of that political elite.

00:36:22.000 He is that guy, right?

00:36:23.000 I mean, he's the one who's paying off politicians by his own admission.

00:36:27.000 And here he's saying that I'm paying off a politician if I just want politicians the hell out of my way so I can trade with the people that I want to trade with?

00:36:33.000 And this is nonsensical.

00:36:34.000 One of the arguments he also trotted out was the old trade deficit argument.

00:36:37.000 Oh, we're getting schlonged by China. 0.99

00:36:39.000 China's just, they're making so much money off of us. 0.96

00:36:41.000 You, today, you.

00:36:42.000 I'm talking to you.

00:36:43.000 You have a personal trade deficit with your grocery store.

00:36:47.000 You do.

00:36:48.000 You give them more money than they give you.

00:36:49.000 You have a trade deficit with your grocery store. 0.84

00:36:52.000 Is that because they're screwing you? 0.74

00:36:54.000 Or is that because they're offering you a product and you are buying it? 0.98

00:36:56.000 Okay, here's the reality.

00:36:58.000 Trade deficits don't make you poor.

00:37:00.000 You know a country that has a trade surplus?

00:37:02.000 A trade surplus?

00:37:03.000 More people are buying stuff from them than they're buying from other places?

00:37:06.000 You know what country that is?

00:37:07.000 Venezuela.

00:37:09.000 You know why?

00:37:09.000 Nobody in Venezuela has any money.

00:37:12.000 Sudan probably has a trade surplus.

00:37:13.000 Because nobody there has the capacity to buy anything.

00:37:16.000 Right?

00:37:16.000 The fact is, poor countries, very often, have trade surpluses.

00:37:19.000 Russia has a trade surplus.

00:37:21.000 They're collapsing.

00:37:22.000 Right?

00:37:23.000 Trade surpluses don't mean anything.

00:37:25.000 What matters, what matters in terms of, the only thing that matters in terms of trade, are voluntary transactions that happen between individuals.

00:37:33.000 That's all.

00:37:33.000 That's the only thing that matters.

00:37:35.000 We're not talking, when they talk trade deficit, the stupidest thing about this, we're not talking about the government getting screwed by another government, we're talking about if I buy a product from China, I now have a personal trade deficit from China. 0.64

00:37:44.000 I'm sure, by the way, I do have a personal trade deficit from China. 0.57

00:37:46.000 I don't know how many subscribers I have in China to this podcast, I'm gonna go with zero, because China probably doesn't allow it, right?

00:37:52.000 But, I'm sure I buy Chinese products sometimes.

00:37:54.000 Do I feel like China is screwing me?

00:37:56.000 Or I feel like, great, I got a cheaper product from China. 1.00

00:38:00.000 This stuff is so dumb, gang. 1.00

00:38:02.000 It's so dumb. 1.00

00:38:03.000 Trump continues, he says that we allowed foreign countries to cheat us in every single way. 0.99

00:38:09.000 We allowed foreign countries to subsidize their goods, devalue their currencies, violate their agreements, and cheat in every way imaginable.

00:38:20.000 And our politicians did nothing about it.

00:38:24.000 Trillions of our dollars and millions of our jobs float overseas as a result.

00:38:30.000 Okay, it's just ridiculous. 0.88

00:38:32.000 It's just ridiculous. 0.58

00:38:32.000 Okay, so he continues along these lines, and finally, he concludes, we can skip to clip 12 here, this is a speech later that night after he exits, after he exits Oscar the Grouch's living room, he goes and he speaks, this is later in Ohio, and he says that TPP, which is the Trans-Pacific Partnership, 0.58

00:38:51.000 This is a trade deal that involves a lot of Asian countries, not including China, and there are problems with TPP.

00:38:56.000 There are.

00:38:56.000 There are problems with TPP and fast-track authority, and we can talk about why it is that I, for example, thought TPP was a problem.

00:39:03.000 I thought it was a problem because I like trade agreements to be approved by Congress.

00:39:06.000 I don't want the president just negotiating trade agreements on his own.

00:39:09.000 I think Congress should sign off on trade agreements.

00:39:12.000 Trump doesn't like TPP because it's a trade deal.

00:39:15.000 That's why he doesn't like TPP.

00:39:16.000 So here's Trump railing against TPP.

00:39:19.000 Pacific Partnership is another disaster done and pushed by special interests who want to rape our country, just a continuing rape of our country.

00:39:30.000 That's what it is, too.

00:39:31.000 It's a harsh word.

00:39:32.000 It's a rape of our country. 0.94

00:39:34.000 Okay, so rape of our country, and he doesn't just say it once, he says it over and over and over, it's rape. 0.96

00:39:37.000 By the way, this is a guy who thinks that Mike Tyson is not a rapist. 0.91

00:39:41.000 I mean, it's just, it's just worst candidate ever.

00:39:43.000 I mean, it's just, it's just terrible.

00:39:44.000 I mean, this is true bad Trump.

00:39:45.000 It's true bad Trump.

00:39:46.000 Naturally, the left loved this, by the way.

00:39:48.000 Because he's talking like a trade unionist, Marxist, from 1933.

00:39:51.000 And so here's Dana Bash on CNN, saying this is, this is, this is good Trump.

00:39:56.000 See, when the left thinks it's good Trump, gang, it might be a hint, this is bad Trump.

00:39:59.000 Here's Dana Bash talking about good Trump.

00:40:01.000 And Chief Political Correspondent Dana Bash, it was interesting how Trump framed Hillary Clinton as running a campaign of fear.

00:40:09.000 That seems like a relatively new tactic.

00:40:13.000 It does, but I think broadly, Pamela, I'm in the Capitol right now, and you could almost hear Republicans here exhaling.

00:40:22.000 As they listen to the speech, not necessarily because all Republicans agree with him on trade.

00:40:27.000 This is an issue that scrambles the Republican Party just like it does the Democratic Party.

00:40:31.000 They really split on whether free trade is a good idea, as George W. Bush did, or whether the more populist

00:40:42.000 I love the fact that Corey Lewandowski, who is Trump's former campaign manager, who has a non-disclosure, non-disparagement agreement with Donald Trump, is paid by CNN to be a contributor.

00:40:55.000 By the way, after this, they played Hollywood Squares.

00:40:59.000 By the way, Chris Matthews did the same thing.

00:41:01.000 Because he is a leftist, and so is Trump, on trade, Chris Matthews comes out of the show, and he talks about how great this trade stuff was, being like, I don't know how trade works, really.

00:41:11.000 You know, Michael?

00:41:28.000 Talk about it.

00:41:29.000 You were inside that campaign.

00:41:30.000 Do they understand?

00:41:31.000 Does Mr. Trump understand what he's appealing to here?

00:41:33.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:41:34.000 And he's understood for quite some time, even before he was going to run for president.

00:41:38.000 When he was considering running for governor of New York, he was talking about how the Buffalo, where I'm from, where I'm flying after the show... A classic example.

00:41:45.000 Absolutely.

00:41:45.000 Hollowed out by trade deals and the NAFTA.

00:41:49.000 What's left?

00:41:50.000 In Buffalo, a lot of corporate welfare.

00:41:52.000 I look at Michigan City and places like that across the country and I think what's left used to be a Blockbuster's video store.

00:41:57.000 That's gone.

00:41:58.000 There may be a diner.

00:41:59.000 Not always a diner left.

00:42:00.000 There's nothing.

00:42:01.000 Can we pause it for a second?

00:42:03.000 Can we pause it for a second? 0.98

00:42:05.000 Does anyone give a crap that Blockbuster no longer exists? 0.98

00:42:08.000 Like really, but this is the logic of the anti-trade folks, right? 0.99

00:42:12.000 Blockbuster no longer exists.

00:42:13.000 Does he really think that was because of NAFTA?

00:42:15.000 Because of a trade deal?

00:42:16.000 Netflix is an American company.

00:42:18.000 So is Amazon.

00:42:20.000 Right?

00:42:20.000 They offer me awesome stuff every day.

00:42:22.000 My life is so much better now that I don't have to go down to Blockbuster and sift through their misfiled videotapes that have been played too many times and glitch in the middle, and then I have to bring it back to Blockbuster and see if they have a replacement tape, but they don't.

00:42:35.000 Now I have to wait three days, but if I get my tape back two days late, then they charge me five times the price of the video.

00:42:40.000 You know what was better?

00:42:41.000 When I went last night on Amazon, and I hit one button, and it went to my TV, and now I can watch it whenever I want.

00:42:48.000 That's awesome.

00:42:48.000 But this is always the pitch, right?

00:42:51.000 Trump will say, oh, well, I went up to Rochester, New York, and there used to be a Kodak factory there.

00:42:55.000 You know why there's not a Kodak factory there anymore, gang?

00:42:57.000 Because nobody uses film anymore.

00:42:59.000 Because everything is digital.

00:43:01.000 You want to go back to the days where you had to worry about overexposing your film every time you brought it in to be developed? 1.00

00:43:06.000 What's stupidity? 1.00

00:43:07.000 What utter economic idiocy and stupidity? 1.00

00:43:10.000 And it kills jobs and it destroys economies. 1.00

00:43:12.000 If you want to look like Venezuela, all we have to do is continue following our hearts when it comes to economics as opposed to recognizing basic truths.

00:43:19.000 Okay, time for some stuff I like and then a plentiful cornucopia of things that I hate today.

00:43:23.000 So, the stuff I like.

00:43:25.000 So, we're doing pre-Hays Code films.

00:43:26.000 So, the Hays Code, as I've mentioned the last couple of days,

00:43:29.000 It was a code voluntarily adopted by Hollywood from 1933 to about 1960, and it was a code that basically said that there shouldn't be extraneous violence on screen, no extraneous sex, the bad guys should lose at the end of the movie, there should be morality reflected on screen.

00:43:41.000 Hollywood adopted it because that was a time when Americans cared about such things like morality and values.

00:43:46.000 But before that, between 1920 and 1933, a lot of movies came out that were very gritty, that looked like 1990s films.

00:43:52.000 So here's one.

00:43:53.000 This one's very famous.

00:43:54.000 It's Jimmy Cagney.

00:43:55.000 You can look to see how young Jimmy Cagney is here.

00:43:57.000 I mean, Jimmy Cagney's a kid when he does this.

00:43:59.000 Jimmy Cagney, who was the gangster on film.

00:44:01.000 He was always the gangster.

00:44:02.000 He was always this guy.

00:44:03.000 Real tough guy.

00:44:04.000 Brawler. 1.00

00:44:06.000 Nasty. 1.00

00:44:07.000 Talks like Trump, right? 0.98

00:44:09.000 The most famous scene from this particular movie isn't this one.

00:44:12.000 The most famous scene from this movie is when he grabs a grapefruit and smashes it in a girl's face, right?

00:44:16.000 He has his mall, right?

00:44:18.000 And she pisses him off.

00:44:19.000 So he grabs a grapefruit and just...

00:44:21.000 It's not possible.

00:44:51.000 Okay, Schemer, it's all set.

00:44:58.000 Jimmy Cagney's watching all these people go into the restaurant.

00:45:17.000 And he is up to no good.

00:45:23.000 We don't have to watch the whole scene, but it's intense.

00:45:25.000 Bad things are about to happen.

00:45:27.000 We'll stop it there and leave it suspenseful.

00:45:28.000 But the movie's really good and really tight.

00:45:30.000 And Jimmy Cagney would go on to do a lot of these kinds of movies.

00:45:34.000 All the way up to White Heat.

00:45:36.000 He also ended up kind of broadening out later in his career and doing some comedy.

00:45:38.000 But really underrated actor, Jimmy Cagney.

00:45:40.000 Okay.

00:45:40.000 Time for some things that I hate.

00:45:42.000 So.

00:45:44.000 Yesterday.

00:45:46.000 I walk into my house.

00:45:48.000 My wife is on maternity leave with the baby for a few weeks.

00:45:50.000 And I walk into the house, and she's exhausted, so I forgive her partially for this.

00:45:54.000 I walk into our room, and on the TV is playing The Bachelorette.

00:45:58.000 And I haven't seen much of The Bachelorette.

00:46:01.000 I haven't really seen a lot of The Bachelorette.

00:46:03.000 All I've seen is kind of just the ads for it.

00:46:06.000 And I watched two minutes of this.

00:46:08.000 This show... I can't believe I didn't know this, but this show marks the end of Western civilization.

00:46:13.000 Okay, this is the death of manhood, this is the death of womanhood, this is the death of Western civilization, this show. 0.87

00:46:20.000 So here's a clip from this season's show. 0.99

00:46:23.000 Okay, and this is a dude crying because some chick, some idiot chick, who's out looking for love by dating 15 guys simultaneously, which where I come from used to be called promiscuity, but now apparently it's called a TV show. 0.98

00:46:38.000 You know, she's looking for love by making out with 87 guys. 0.99

00:46:42.000 Like my wife, seriously, my wife is watching this and she makes out with like eight guys in the span of two days. 0.84

00:46:47.000 Now, number one, kind of ho-ish. 0.98

00:46:50.000 Okay, just putting that out there, and I'd say the same thing for a dude.

00:46:52.000 Kind of ho-ish, right?

00:46:53.000 I mean, like, you make it out with lots of dudes at one time, kind of gross.

00:46:56.000 But the part that's amazing is, number one, they think that this is a route to love, which it isn't.

00:47:00.000 It turns out there's never any discussion of values.

00:47:02.000 It's always discussion of feelings.

00:47:04.000 The entire show, from what I can see, is a discussion of feelings.

00:47:07.000 Like, her prodding them, do you love me yet?

00:47:09.000 Well, I'm having a hard time expressing my feelings, but yeah, I love you because I really want that rose.

00:47:13.000 I really want that rose.

00:47:15.000 I want to stay on here and I want to up my name profile a little bit and not shave for two days so I have a little bit of stubble.

00:47:20.000 I want that rest.

00:47:20.000 So I love you.

00:47:21.000 I'm having my deep love for you.

00:47:23.000 Based on what?

00:47:25.000 Based on what?

00:47:26.000 Based on you went on a walk in the park with a string quartet following you?

00:47:31.000 That's what love is based on now?

00:47:33.000 Like the base of a lasting relationship?

00:47:34.000 I don't know what the stats are, but I do wonder, how many of these couples ever actually get married?

00:47:38.000 And stay married?

00:47:39.000 Is it maybe like two?

00:47:41.000 In the entire history of The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, maybe two?

00:47:43.000 So that's problem number one.

00:47:45.000 So problem number one is with her, this needy, weeviling girl going, Do you love me yet?

00:47:49.000 I have feelings for you, but do you love me yet? 0.97

00:47:52.000 Shut. 1.00

00:47:53.000 Up! 1.00

00:47:54.000 You don't even know each other well enough to love each other.

00:47:57.000 And if you love each one of these guys and they all love you, why are you making out with everybody?

00:48:03.000 I remember when I was dating my wife.

00:48:04.000 My wife was living in a dorm at UCLA called the Bayit, which is a Jewish cooperative living facility.

00:48:10.000 And there was a guy there who was clearly hitting on her, like, all the time.

00:48:14.000 My wife happens to be super hot. 1.00

00:48:15.000 And there was a guy there who was hitting on her, like, all the time.

00:48:18.000 And she, because women are oblivious when they want to be oblivious, she was just oblivious. 1.00

00:48:23.000 And she thought, oh, she's being a nice guy.

00:48:25.000 Like, all guys are nodding, right?

00:48:26.000 You're all nodding.

00:48:26.000 You've had this experience.

00:48:28.000 Everyone has had this experience with their girlfriend or their wife, where the wife, where the girl, 0.96

00:48:33.000 So I told my wife at the time, I want you to stop talking to him because if you don't I'm going to have to murder him.

00:48:52.000 And it's, and if you don't want me to go to jail, then I would prefer that you not talk to him anymore.

00:48:58.000 And she said, why?

00:48:59.000 And I said, well, because he's hitting on you, and I don't think that's appropriate.

00:49:01.000 I'm not hitting on other girls.

00:49:02.000 I don't think that it's appropriate that this guy's hitting on you. 0.99

00:49:04.000 I think he's kind of a douchebag. 0.97

00:49:06.000 Right? 0.97

00:49:06.000 And so that's, and, and, and so later on, later, and she, she didn't, right? 0.97

00:49:11.000 She, oh, no, no, it's nothing.

00:49:13.000 It's nothing.

00:49:13.000 Two weeks later, he comes to her and he, and he says, are you really sure that you're with Ben?

00:49:19.000 And she goes, oh, not the last time I was right in my marriage.

00:49:24.000 So in any case, that's on the lady's side. 1.00

00:49:28.000 If a woman is looking for love by dating a bunch of guys simultaneously, you're doing it wrong.

00:49:31.000 You're doing it wrong.

00:49:32.000 OK, number two, the guys. 0.86

00:49:35.000 What in the hell is wrong with these dudes?

00:49:38.000 OK, they're sitting around talking with each other after having passed this girl around like they're sharing a beer. 0.98

00:49:44.000 Right?

00:49:44.000 Every one of them makes out with her in the course of a single episode.

00:49:47.000 And they're all sitting around like, oh, I don't know, is she gonna pick me?

00:49:49.000 Is she gonna pick you?

00:49:50.000 I don't know, what do we do?

00:49:53.000 I feel like it's a competition, but I love her so much, but do you also love her?

00:49:56.000 What? 1.00

00:49:58.000 Who stole your testicles and put them in a jar, dude? 1.00

00:50:01.000 Like, what happened here? 1.00

00:50:03.000 It's the saddest thing.

00:50:04.000 I mean, like, what happened to American masculinity?

00:50:06.000 What happened to, if you fall in love with a girl, and then you make clear that you are not going to tolerate other dudes going after her?

00:50:15.000 I thought that this was one of the halcyons of masculinity, was not only protect your woman, but protect your woman.

00:50:22.000 Like, this is...

00:50:24.000 What? 0.99

00:50:25.000 And it's so ridiculous. 1.00

00:50:26.000 And I know all the feminists right now are going crazy. 1.00

00:50:28.000 Oh, how dare he says the woman has to be protected from other men?

00:50:31.000 No, the woman gets to choose, right? 1.00

00:50:32.000 She can reject the guy, that's fine.

00:50:35.000 But I don't understand why the guy is cool with this.

00:50:37.000 If my girlfriend were making out with five other guys, she would not be my girlfriend for any amount of time whatsoever. 1.00

00:50:43.000 There would be zero minutes where she was my girlfriend. 0.99

00:50:45.000 Right, so but these guys do that and then she breaks up with them by not giving them a rose and it's oh so emotional and we're gonna play music and we're gonna and oh my god there's a scene I can go on like this for an hour there's a scene where there's a scene in this episode of The Bachelorette where they create like this it's like they go to some like art nouveau

00:51:05.000 Bull crap place where it's like new art and the art involves like a screen that has water on it and all these women are like crawling around on the screen and then he gets in there with a bathing suit and she gets in there with a bathing suit and he's like, oh, should I kiss her? 1.00

00:51:17.000 Should I not? 1.00

00:51:18.000 Should I kiss her?

00:51:18.000 Should I not?

00:51:19.000 And then they and then and then and finally he kisses her.

00:51:22.000 He's all manipulated.

00:51:23.000 And finally he kisses her and she goes, yeah, we did it.

00:51:26.000 And then she throws him off the show five seconds later and she tosses him. 0.99

00:51:30.000 Then yeah, this is a real search for love.

00:51:32.000 So anyway, there's one of the guys, he gets tossed from the show, and he's weeping, so sad, this girl who's hooking up with every other dude on the show, everyone within a 37 mile radius, the entire USC marching band.

00:51:45.000 Oh my god, she rejected me, my life is over.

00:51:47.000 No, your life was over when you signed up for this show, dude.

00:51:49.000 Alright, so here's the guy weeping about it.

00:51:52.000 Did you use the word entitlement?

00:51:55.000 I said very intently that Jordan acted like he was the end-all of be-alls. 0.67

00:52:02.000 Right there.

00:52:03.000 So you used the word entitlement?

00:52:05.000 And maybe entitlement.

00:52:06.000 Possibly.

00:52:07.000 Let me just ask you this one question.

00:52:08.000 How does one act entitled when stating that the rules of a game are such?

00:52:15.000 How does my character get called into question when I am playing a poker game?

00:52:21.000 It was one thing and we, you know, whatever. 0.88

00:52:29.000 It's just pathetic when someone needs to bring up stuff like that. 0.59

00:52:46.000 Never. 0.97

00:52:47.000 Zero time.

00:52:48.000 Ever.

00:52:48.000 Will never happen.

00:52:49.000 Will never happen in the future.

00:52:51.000 Will never happen in the past. 1.00

00:52:52.000 Has never happened in human history except on this stupid crappy TV show. 1.00

00:52:56.000 So yes, this is the end of masculinity. 1.00

00:52:57.000 Men who are willing to talk with other men about whether they're going to get the same girl.

00:53:02.000 Girls who are willing to make out with like ten dudes at once to figure out which guy they want to be with but really not kind of because at the end it doesn't matter at the end of the show.

00:53:10.000 Just gross.

00:53:10.000 And women who think this is actual romance, that's the thing.

00:53:13.000 Women who think this is actual romance. 0.98

00:53:14.000 Actual romance is not this.

00:53:16.000 It's not dudes making out with you and that feeling of the thrill.

00:53:20.000 That's called lust, right?

00:53:21.000 Actual romance is not a set-up, fully nonsense scenario where you're all made up and somebody did your hair for you in a multi-million dollar company.

00:53:29.000 And they have you dancing with some random dude who they cast from a list of pictures.

00:53:34.000 It turns out romance, actually, is based on shared values.

00:53:37.000 And if it's not based on shared values, you're not the one who ends up with the Rose Gang. 0.93

00:53:40.000 Okay, so, that's the thing that I hate.

00:53:43.000 I do have to do one more thing that I hate because otherwise Mathis will murder me because I had him cut this clip.

00:53:48.000 So there was the Black Entertainment Television Awards.

00:53:51.000 There's a guy, this is a couple days old.

00:53:53.000 There's a fellow, what's his name?

00:53:54.000 Jeremiah Williams?

00:53:56.000 Struggling parents, the families, the teachers, the students that are realizing that a system built to divide and impoverish and destroy us cannot stand if we do.

00:54:25.000 Alright?

00:54:25.000 Okay, we can stop it right there for one second.

00:54:28.000 The idea that America is built to impoverish and destroy black people is absolute crap, it's utter nonsense, it's despicable, and it's wrong. 1.00

00:54:35.000 And he goes on, I mean, was it built to impoverish and destroy him? 1.00

00:54:38.000 By the way, was it the white people who did it? 0.96

00:54:39.000 Because his mom is white. 0.96

00:54:40.000 So that's kind of awkward. 0.99

00:54:43.000 This whole thing, yeah, clearly America is set up to destroy black people when the President of the United States is black, the Attorney General of the United States is black. 0.99

00:54:51.000 Yeah, clearly we're set up to destroy black people when black people in America have it better than in any other country on planet Earth. 1.00

00:54:57.000 Legitimately any other country on the planet. 1.00

00:54:59.000 Yeah, we're set up for that.

00:55:01.000 That's really the big problem, is that America's set up that way.

00:55:03.000 He continues along these lines because he has an IQ that's smaller than his shoe size.

00:55:07.000 It's kind of basic mathematics.

00:55:09.000 The more we learn about who we are and how we got here, the more we will mobilize.

00:55:13.000 Now, this is also in particular for the black women, in particular, who have spent their lifetimes dedicated to nurturing everyone before themselves.

00:55:22.000 We can and we'll do better for you.

00:55:43.000 If you would say, you know, we need to do better by you, and what he meant was black men who are knocking you up need to do better by you, which is disproportionately what's happening, then that would be something worthwhile. 1.00

00:55:53.000 But I have a feeling that's not what he's talking about.

00:55:55.000 I have a feeling what he's talking about is that I, who have a wife and children, a wife that I stand by and protect and defend and provide for, and children that I protect, defend, and provide for, somehow it's my responsibility to take care of women who get pregnant voluntarily out of wedlock and the guy ditches them.

00:56:12.000 Now it's my job. 0.99

00:56:13.000 And we will continue this for five more seconds and then we'll be done with this this idiot. 1.00

00:56:18.000 We've been doing is looking at the data and we know that police somehow managed to de-escalate, disarm, and not kill white people every day. 0.98

00:56:26.000 So what's gonna happen is we are gonna have equal rights and justice in our own country or we will restructure their function and ours.

00:56:35.000 Okay, we're gonna restructure civil rights, okay? 0.96

00:56:37.000 He's ripping on the police for shooting black people randomly. 0.98

00:56:40.000 Statistically untrue. 0.96

00:56:41.000 False, false, false.

00:56:42.000 All of this is false.

00:56:43.000 It's just a string of lies and what's important about this is listen to that applause.

00:56:47.000 Listen to the audience at the Black Entertainment Television Awards. 0.96

00:56:49.000 All these rich people sitting in the audience, virtually all of whom are black, complaining about how terrible America is. 0.99

00:56:55.000 America's brutal and evil. 0.99

00:56:57.000 By the way, sitting there protected by cops who are ringing the entire situation. 0.73

00:57:00.000 Just gross all the way around, but it's this sort of polarization.

00:57:03.000 Hillary Clinton said today that she thinks that Americans don't have to consider themselves victims.

00:57:10.000 That's her entire campaign. 1.00

00:57:11.000 That's what Democrats care about, is people considering themselves victims.

00:57:14.000 This dude's a victim. 0.99

00:57:15.000 He's standing up there winning an award after making millions of dollars, reading somebody else's lines on a TV show, having a white mother, but he's victimized by the evil white American patriarchy or some such crap. 0.99

00:57:27.000 All right, well, tomorrow is the mailbag. 0.91

00:57:29.000 Tomorrow is the mailbag, so if you want to subscribe, subscribe now at dailywire.com, and you too can be part of the vaunted Ben Shapiro Show mailbag, the greatest mailbag in the history of mailbags.

00:57:38.000 By the way, thank you.

00:57:39.000 I want to thank you for making us the number one conservative podcast in America, which is really exciting.

00:57:43.000 So we are very excited about that, and we will see you tomorrow.

00:57:48.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 29, 2016

Ep. 142 - When The Left Says Science They Really Mean 'Shut Up'

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