The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 146 - The FBI Defended Hillary By Destroying The Law

00:00:00.000 On Tuesday, FBI Director James Comey announced he would not recommend obvious felon Hillary Clinton for indictment.

00:00:06.000 His rationale?

00:00:07.000 She didn't have the requisite intent to move forward with the prosecution.

00:00:10.000 Here was Comey's conclusion.

00:00:21.000 All of the cases prosecuted involved some combination of clearly intentionally and willful mishandling of classified information, or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct, or indications of disloyalty to the United States, or efforts to obstruct justice.

00:00:38.000 We do not see those things here." 0.88

00:00:40.000 This logic relies on two ideas, neither of which is in evidence.

00:00:43.000 First, the law requires intent.

00:00:45.000 Second, that even if the law did require intent, that intent would have to rise to the level of treasonable activity.

00:00:51.000 First, and most obviously, the law simply does not require intent.

00:00:54.000 Here is 18 U.S.C.

00:00:56.000 793-F, which Comey explicitly referenced, quote,

00:01:09.000 Relating to the national defense, through gross negligence, gross negligence, permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody, or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or two, having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody, or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to superior officer, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.

00:01:38.000 As former federal prosecutor Annie McCarthy points out, Hillary was clearly responsible for gross negligence, even by Comey's own admission. 0.99

00:01:45.000 Here's what McCarthy said, quote,

00:02:07.000 That's true.

00:02:08.000 But there's another problem.

00:02:09.000 Comey says Hillary did not intentionally and willfully mishandle classified information, that she didn't show vast quantities of material exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct.

00:02:21.000 He said there were no efforts to obstruct justice.

00:02:24.000 All of that was present.

00:02:25.000 Intent, for purposes of committing a crime, generally does not require intent to commit the final harm.

00:02:30.000 That's called specific intent.

00:02:32.000 It requires intent to commit a criminal act.

00:02:34.000 Basic intent.

00:02:35.000 For example, if you dropped a cinder block into a crowd and it killed somebody, you would likely be prosecuted for first-degree murder, even though you didn't have specific intent to kill somebody.

00:02:45.000 Right?

00:02:45.000 You'd be guilty because you dropped the cinder block and you knew it was probably going to hit somebody.

00:02:48.000 Hillary clearly had intent to mishandle classified information. 1.00

00:02:52.000 She did it.

00:02:52.000 She set up a private server to do it.

00:02:54.000 She had her lawyers destroy emails on that server. 1.00

00:02:56.000 Hillary also exposed vast quantities of material intentionally. 0.59

00:03:00.000 That was intentional misconduct.

00:03:02.000 She didn't have to purposefully expose the materials so a specific person would access them, which is what David Petraeus did.

00:03:07.000 She could just expose them purposely because she believed it was important to do so to protect her own privacy from government discovery.

00:03:14.000 As for obstruction of justice, Comey himself said, quote, That's obstruction of justice.

00:03:32.000 Comey clearly didn't obey the law here, but that was never going to happen.

00:03:35.000 After all, we no longer live in a nation of laws.

00:03:38.000 We live in a nation of Democrat rulers.

00:03:40.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:03:40.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

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00:04:16.000 Okay, let's start.

00:04:17.000 There are two things that matter in a criminal investigation of a subject.

00:04:44.000 What did the person do, and when they did that thing, what were they thinking?

00:04:49.000 When you look at the hundred years plus of the Justice Department's investigation and prosecution of the mishandling of classified information, those two questions are obviously present.

00:05:00.000 What did the person do?

00:05:01.000 Did they mishandle classified information?

00:05:03.000 And when they did it, did they know they were doing something that was unlawful?

00:05:08.000 That has been the characteristic of every charged criminal case involving the mishandling of classified information.

00:05:15.000 I'm happy to go through the cases in particular.

00:05:17.000 In our system of law, there's a thing called mens rea. 1.00

00:05:20.000 It's important to know what you did, but when you did it, this Latin phrase mens rea means, what were you thinking?

00:05:25.000 And we don't want to put people in jail unless we prove that they knew they were doing something they shouldn't do.

00:05:31.000 That is the characteristic of all the prosecutions involving mishandling of classified information.

00:05:37.000 There is a statute that was passed in 1917 that on its face makes it a crime, a felony, for someone to engage in gross negligence.

00:05:46.000 So that would appear to say, well, maybe in that circumstance, you don't need to prove they knew they were doing something that was unlawful.

00:05:52.000 Maybe it's enough to prove that they were just really, really careless, beyond a reasonable doubt.

00:05:56.000 At the time Congress passed that statute in 1917, there was a lot of concern in the House and the Senate about whether that was going to violate the American tradition of requiring that before you're going to lock somebody up, you prove they knew they were doing something wrong.

00:06:09.000 And so there was a lot of concern about it.

00:06:11.000 The statute was passed.

00:06:13.000 As best I can tell, the Department of Justice has used it once in the 99 years since, reflecting that same concern.

00:06:20.000 I know from 30 years with the Department of Justice, they have grave concerns about whether it's appropriate to prosecute somebody for gross negligence, which is why they've done it once that I know of in a case involving espionage.

00:06:33.000 We can stop it there.

00:06:34.000 This is a bunch of crap.

00:06:35.000 Okay?

00:06:35.000 Everything he's saying right now is crap.

00:06:37.000 And then I'll explain why this is crap.

00:06:38.000 Number one, as far as the level of intent, he says, did she know she was doing something wrong?

00:06:42.000 Right?

00:06:42.000 That's what he says.

00:06:43.000 Those are his words.

00:06:44.000 That's the second element.

00:06:45.000 Did she know she was doing something wrong?

00:06:47.000 Oh, let's see.

00:06:48.000 Let's see.

00:06:49.000 She set up a private server with all sorts of classified information in her basement, and in her bathroom, and she had multiple servers, and she lied about it repeatedly.

00:06:57.000 She was told by the State Department she shouldn't be doing it, and her people told the State Department to shut up.

00:07:01.000 Did she know she was doing something wrong?

00:07:02.000 Hell yes she knew she was doing something wrong!

00:07:04.000 Of course she knew she was doing something wrong!

00:07:06.000 As far as the idea that he can't prosecute under 793F because it's grossly negligent, grossly negligent, and then he says, we wouldn't want to prosecute people if they didn't know they were doing something wrong,

00:07:16.000 Excuse me, but in every state in America, we have criminal negligence statutes.

00:07:21.000 In every state in America, we have criminal negligence.

00:07:23.000 For example, you leave a loaded handgun out on your coffee table, and you have a three-year-old in the house.

00:07:28.000 And the three-year-old takes the gun and shoots himself in the head.

00:07:32.000 You will be prosecuted for criminal negligence.

00:07:33.000 You will.

00:07:34.000 You'll be prosecuted for criminal negligence.

00:07:36.000 Is that something that James Comey is coming out against now?

00:07:38.000 He's saying, well, you didn't have intent for the kid to shoot himself in the head.

00:07:41.000 No, you idiot.

00:07:42.000 Of course criminal negligence exists.

00:07:44.000 Of course gross negligence exists.

00:07:46.000 The entire purpose of the statute was to say we need to take care of our national secrets to the extent that even if you make a mistake with national secrets, you're still going to get punished.

00:07:55.000 So he's just rewriting the law wholesale to avoid incriminating Hillary Clinton.

00:07:59.000 That's what this is.

00:08:00.000 There was a lot of talk yesterday.

00:08:01.000 Did Comey do the right thing?

00:08:03.000 And then, really, she wouldn't have been indicted anyway, so he was just kind of forestalling that and using it as an opportunity to dump all over Hillary so that she wouldn't get off scot-free?

00:08:11.000 Or, was this corrupt?

00:08:12.000 Okay, this speaks to corrupt, because what he's saying right now is legally nonsensical.

00:08:16.000 It's legally nonsensical.

00:08:18.000 And to prove it's legally nonsensical, a few minutes later, he's asked about, okay, let's say you're working for the FBI.

00:08:22.000 What happens to you if you treat material the same way that Hillary Clinton did?

00:08:26.000 Jason Chaffetz questioning him from Utah.

00:08:29.000 If Hillary Clinton, or if anybody, had worked at the FBI under this fact pattern, what would you do to that person?

00:08:37.000 There would be a security review and an adjudication of their suitability, and a range of discipline could be imposed from termination to reprimand, and in between suspensions, loss of clearance.

00:08:49.000 So you could be walked out, or you could, depending on the nature of the facts, you could be reprimanded.

00:08:56.000 But there is a robust process to handle that.

00:08:59.000 Okay, so there's a robust process inside the FBI.

00:09:02.000 There's only one problem.

00:09:03.000 Hillary Clinton no longer works for the government.

00:09:04.000 So what happens to you?

00:09:06.000 Is the idea is that when you stop working for government, if we found out you committed a crime while you were in the government, now you're off scot-free, now it's fine?

00:09:12.000 So in other words, only while you're working for the government are there consequences, but once you're out of government, it's fine.

00:09:17.000 So if you hide it long enough and then you quit, then they can't touch you anymore.

00:09:21.000 Or if you quit before they do anything to you,

00:09:23.000 Or if you're just fired, there's no more consequences.

00:09:25.000 Yeah, except for there's a guy in the Navy who just, in 2015, ended up getting two years probation and a $7,500 fine for doing exactly what Hillary did, except with less purpose.

00:09:35.000 He just walked out of a Navy base with classified information, no intent to distribute, and they still gave him a fine and two years of probation.

00:09:44.000 This hearing got very weird very quickly.

00:09:45.000 I mean, James Comey, again, this was supposed to be an honest guy.

00:09:48.000 Clearly he's not.

00:09:49.000 Clearly something else is going on.

00:09:51.000 I think the thing that's going on is that James Comey knew how this was gonna go.

00:09:54.000 It could either be his brains or his signature on that piece of paper, and he preferred his signature on the piece of paper, Godfather style.

00:10:00.000 Basically, he knew that Obama was not going to prosecute.

00:10:02.000 He knew Loretta Lynch was not going to prosecute.

00:10:04.000 He knew that either he was going to have to quit his job and never get a job in another Democratic administration, or he was just going to have to rip Hillary and go along to get along.

00:10:13.000 And so he chose the latter.

00:10:15.000 Here's a really weird piece of testimony.

00:10:17.000 James Comey actually is... Remember earlier he said you have to know that you did something wrong.

00:10:21.000 Here's James Comey being asked, well, didn't she know she was doing something wrong?

00:10:26.000 Did Hillary Clinton do anything wrong? 0.99

00:10:29.000 What do you mean by wrong?

00:10:31.000 I think it's self-evident.

00:10:33.000 Well, I'm a lawyer, I'm an investigator, and I'm, I hope, a normal human being.

00:10:37.000 Do you really believe there should be no consequence for Hillary Clinton and how she dealt with this?

00:10:42.000 Well I didn't say, I hope folks remember what I said on Tuesday.

00:10:45.000 I didn't say there's no consequence for someone who violates the rules regarding the handling of classified information.

00:10:51.000 There are often very severe consequences in the FBI involving their employment, involving their pay, involving their clearances.

00:10:57.000 That's what I said on Tuesday and I hope folks walk away understanding that just because someone's not prosecuted for mishandling classified information that doesn't mean if you work in the FBI there aren't consequences for it.

00:11:10.000 But she didn't work for the FBI.

00:11:12.000 So what happens to her? 0.77

00:11:13.000 There are no consequences.

00:11:14.000 I love that.

00:11:15.000 Did she do something wrong?

00:11:16.000 Define wrong.

00:11:17.000 We're now fully in Clinton land, right?

00:11:19.000 Clinton land where is doesn't mean is, was doesn't mean was, and wrong doesn't mean wrong.

00:11:23.000 It's unbelievable.

00:11:24.000 I mean, this is so insulting to everybody's intelligence.

00:11:26.000 Trey Gowdy, who's an actual federal prosecutor, he used to be a federal prosecutor, Trey Gowdy, or maybe he was a state prosecutor, but Trey Gowdy, in any case, he goes after James Comey, he's a representative from South Carolina, and he gets Comey to admit that Hillary lied over and over and over and over, but still, apparently, we've got James Comey saying that none of this is worthy of prosecution.

00:11:46.000 Secretary Clinton said she never sent or received any classified information over her private email.

00:11:50.000 Was that true?

00:11:52.000 Our investigation found that there was classified information sent.

00:11:55.000 So it was not true?

00:11:57.000 Right.

00:11:57.000 That's what I said.

00:11:58.000 Okay.

00:11:59.000 Well, I'm looking for a little shorter answer so you and I are not here quite as long.

00:12:03.000 Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her emails either sent or received.

00:12:08.000 Was that true?

00:12:09.000 That's not true.

00:12:10.000 There were a small number of portion markings on, I think, three of the documents.

00:12:15.000 Secretary Clinton said I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email.

00:12:19.000 There is no classified material.

00:12:21.000 Was that true?

00:12:22.000 There was classified material emailed.

00:12:25.000 Secretary Clinton said she used just one device.

00:12:28.000 Was that true?

00:12:30.000 She used multiple devices during the four years.

00:12:34.000 Of her term as Secretary of State.

00:12:50.000 There wasn't intent.

00:12:51.000 Okay, basically Comey's definition of intent is she must have meant to go over to the Kremlin and hand Vladimir Putin copies of her emails in order for him to prosecute.

00:13:00.000 That's not what the statute says.

00:13:02.000 That's not what any reasonable statute would say.

00:13:04.000 That's not what any reasonable statute would say.

00:13:07.000 Okay, but and now listen to his new excuses, right?

00:13:09.000 He has to come up with new excuses for Hillary now. 0.92

00:13:11.000 So get ready for this one.

00:13:12.000 This one was great.

00:13:13.000 James Comey was talking about Hillary's lawyers deleting emails.

00:13:16.000 Watch what he says here.

00:13:17.000 This is beyond the pale of insanity.

00:13:20.000 Did Secretary Clinton know her legal team deleted those emails that they kept from us?

00:13:29.000 I don't believe so.

00:13:30.000 Did Secretary Clinton approve those emails being deleted?

00:13:36.000 I don't think there was any specific instruction or conversation between the Secretary and her lawyers about that.

00:13:41.000 Did you ask that question?

00:13:43.000 Yes.

00:13:44.000 Did Secretary Clinton know that her lawyers cleaned devices in such a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery?

00:13:51.000 I don't believe that she did.

00:13:52.000 Did you ask that question?

00:13:53.000 Yes.

00:13:56.000 Do you see how someone could view the context of what she did?

00:13:59.000 Set up a private system.

00:14:01.000 She alone controlled it.

00:14:03.000 She kept everything on it.

00:14:04.000 We now know from Ms.

00:14:05.000 Abedin's deposition that they did it for that very reason, so no one could see what was there, based on the deposition Ms.

00:14:13.000 Abedin gave.

00:14:15.000 And then when they got caught, they deleted what they had.

00:14:19.000 And they scrub their devices.

00:14:22.000 Is that part of the context in evaluating this decision?

00:14:25.000 Sure.

00:14:26.000 Sure.

00:14:27.000 I understand what inferences can be drawn from that collection of facts, of course.

00:14:31.000 He understands the inferences, but no, it wasn't intentional.

00:14:34.000 She slipped and her hip fell and it fell on her lawyers and her lawyers deleted all the emails. 0.99

00:14:38.000 Again, I'm a lawyer.

00:14:39.000 Okay, you don't do stuff that your clients don't tell you to do as a lawyer.

00:14:42.000 Okay, if somebody hands it over to me, their emails, and they said, okay, do what you will with the emails.

00:14:47.000 You think I'm going to delete all the emails?

00:14:49.000 You think I would do that if they were the Secretary of State?

00:14:52.000 There's clearly, clearly an instruction that comes down from the Clinton camp to her lawyers.

00:14:56.000 Comey knows that, and he's lying.

00:14:58.000 This is all a bunch of crap.

00:15:00.000 And then he gets to an even worse one, right?

00:15:02.000 This is the last one that we'll have to break, unfortunately.

00:15:05.000 Here's the, I love this one.

00:15:07.000 Comey says that Hillary was unsophisticated about classified information. 0.97

00:15:12.000 She's just ignorant. 1.00

00:15:12.000 Who knew? 1.00

00:15:13.000 She's just, she's crazy old grandma.

00:15:14.000 She just didn't know anything about how computers work, and she just wants her grandson to come over and teach her how to use the email.

00:15:21.000 So she makes a statement that says there was no markings.

00:15:25.000 You make a statement that there was, so her statement was not true.

00:15:31.000 Well that, that would actually have a little bit of insight into, into

00:15:34.000 So a reasonable person who has been a Senator, a Secretary of State, a First Lady, wouldn't a reasonable person know that that was a classified marking as a Secretary of State?

00:16:01.000 Yeah.

00:16:01.000 A reasonable person.

00:16:02.000 That's all I'm asking.

00:16:03.000 Yeah, before this investigation, I probably would have said yes.

00:16:06.000 I'm not so sure.

00:16:07.000 I don't find it incredible.

00:16:09.000 Director Comey, come on.

00:16:10.000 I mean, I've only been here a few years, and I understand the importance of those markings.

00:16:15.000 So you're suggesting that a long length of time that she had no idea what a classified marking would be?

00:16:26.000 That's your swarm testimony today?

00:16:28.000 No, not that she would have no idea what a classified marking would be.

00:16:31.000 Okay, so she's just stupid.

00:16:32.000 By the way, she's an originating source of classified information. 1.00

00:16:35.000 She creates classified information, but she doesn't know what classified is because she's an unsophisticated player. 0.98

00:16:39.000 She's an unsophisticated player.

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00:17:24.000 All right, so, the best excuse we saved for last.

00:17:27.000 The best excuse we saved for last.

00:17:29.000 I love this one.

00:17:30.000 Comey finally admits, yes, Hillary Clinton was negligent, but she was unintentionally negligent.

00:17:36.000 I love this phrase, unintentionally negligent.

00:17:39.000 Do you know what that means?

00:17:41.000 That's redundancy, gang.

00:17:42.000 That's from the redundancy department of redundancy.

00:17:44.000 No one is intentionally negligent.

00:17:47.000 Negligent means by accident.

00:17:48.000 This is like saying, I got into a car accident accidentally.

00:17:52.000 Yes, we know, because it was called a car accident.

00:17:54.000 Okay, so, here's James Comey explaining that she was unintentionally criminally negligent, but if she'd been intentionally criminally negligent, that would have been criminal, but it was all unintentional because she's a crazy old coot. 0.94

00:18:06.000 Is it your statement then, before this committee, that Secretary Clinton should have known not to send classified material, and yet she did?

00:18:15.000 Well certainly she should have known not to send classified information.

00:18:17.000 As I said, that's the definition of negligent.

00:18:19.000 I think she was extremely careless.

00:18:21.000 I think she was negligent.

00:18:22.000 That I could establish.

00:18:24.000 What we can't establish is that she acted with the necessary criminal intent.

00:18:29.000 Okay, this is ridiculous.

00:18:30.000 This is ridiculous.

00:18:31.000 She's guilty and Comey's covering for her.

00:18:33.000 End of story.

00:18:34.000 And the reason this happened is because the DOJ gave the word.

00:18:36.000 End of story.

00:18:37.000 End of story.

00:18:38.000 So...

00:18:40.000 That's James Comey.

00:18:41.000 The Republicans are responding to this predictably.

00:18:43.000 They're saying this is insane.

00:18:45.000 So Marco Rubio, he says the State Department should bar Hillary Clinton's clearances because if you treat classified information this way, you can't be trusted with this sort of information.

00:18:53.000 Well, what a lot of people don't realize is beyond the criminality or non-criminality of this, there is the issue of State Department rules.

00:18:59.000 The State Department has rules on all of its employees, on all of its officials, about how to handle classified information, and it has very clearly detailed that there are sanctions and punishments for violating those rules.

00:19:10.000 I promise you this.

00:19:11.000 If what we know Hillary Clinton and her staff did had been anybody else in the State Department, they would have been punished and it would have gone from revoking their security clearance, to being fired, to everything in between including long-term non-paid suspension, etc.

00:19:26.000 So what I'm asking Secretary Kerry to do, this is under his jurisdiction,

00:19:29.000 is to ensure that the appropriate measures are taken to now punish all of these people for their reckless behavior and that includes Hillary Clinton because whether or not the federal government the Justice Department finds us to be criminal there is no doubt that it was negligence and there is no doubt that it violated State Department policy and he needs to carry that out and not ignore it for partisan political reasons

00:19:48.000 Okay, so, of course he's right.

00:19:50.000 Of course he's right.

00:19:50.000 But none of this makes any difference.

00:19:52.000 None of this makes any... Paul Ryan said the same thing.

00:19:54.000 Jason Chaffetz says that an average Joe wouldn't be in jail.

00:19:57.000 Here's Chaffetz explaining that this is insanity.

00:20:01.000 Do you suspect that?

00:20:02.000 Do you agree with that?

00:20:04.000 That's a legitimate question for the FBI director, because if you listen to the fact pattern laid out by the director, I'm mystified.

00:20:11.000 There seems to be a double standard.

00:20:13.000 If the average Joe had gone through that, they'd probably have handcuffs on them and probably be in jail.

00:20:18.000 But if your name is Clinton, if you happen to be part of the powerful and elite, there seems to be a different set of standards.

00:20:25.000 Certainly the Department of Justice has prosecuted people for far less, and here in Hillary Clinton, they're just letting her go. 1.00

00:20:32.000 And they are.

00:20:33.000 They're just gonna let her go. 0.84

00:20:34.000 Okay, so, this should be a great time for Donald Trump to attack, right?

00:20:39.000 Right.

00:20:40.000 This would be, you would think, I mean, just do what I did, right?

00:20:42.000 Just go out there and attack.

00:20:44.000 This would be a great time.

00:20:45.000 So now it's time for our daily game of Good Trump, Bad Trump.

00:20:50.000 Oh, yes.

00:20:51.000 And today is an epic game of Good Trump, Bad Trump.

00:20:54.000 So, as always, we begin with Good Trump.

00:20:56.000 So, Good Trump.

00:20:58.000 He attacks the Clintons last night.

00:21:00.000 He's in Ohio.

00:21:00.000 And he goes after the Clintons.

00:21:02.000 And here's what he has to say about the Clintons.

00:21:04.000 We're tired of incompetent leadership and incompetent people.

00:21:08.000 And Hillary Clinton, I said, bad judgment. 0.91

00:21:10.000 She's incompetent, OK? 1.00

00:21:12.000 She's incompetent. 1.00

00:21:12.000 The only good thing she's ever done 1.00

00:21:16.000 Is get out of trouble when anybody else would have been in jail by now.

00:21:20.000 That's the only thing that I've ever seen her do.

00:21:23.000 That was a great job.

00:21:24.000 I gotta give her credit.

00:21:26.000 I gotta give her credit.

00:21:28.000 Okay, and he's right.

00:21:29.000 And if all he did last night was just this for an hour, just go out there for an hour and do nothing but read Hillary Clinton's emails and read Hillary Clinton's testimony and then read James Comey's testimony and then just go back and forth and say she's a liar, she's a liar, she's corrupt, she's a liar, she cares more about herself than the country.

00:21:46.000 If that's all he did last night,

00:21:48.000 We would have been great, right?

00:21:49.000 We would have been gold.

00:21:50.000 That's all he has to do.

00:21:51.000 This is the worst news cycle for Hillary Clinton since she lost the nomination to Barack Obama in 2008, and it's the worst news cycle for her credibility ever in the history of her career.

00:22:01.000 Okay, it's a horrible, horrible news cycle.

00:22:03.000 The head of the FBI is basically saying she's a criminal, but I'm gonna let her get away with it because she's a criminal. 1.00

00:22:07.000 That's basically what the head of the FBI is now saying, because we have a criminal conspiracy at the top of government, I'm a part of it, and so therefore I'm going to let her go.

00:22:14.000 That's basically what he's saying right now, because there's no other excuse for him doing what he's doing.

00:22:19.000 Unfortunately, unfortunately, because Donald Trump is Donald Trump,

00:22:24.000 Bad Trump.

00:22:24.000 Okay, so it's time for some bad Trump.

00:22:26.000 And listen, even for people like me, who are not fans of Donald Trump, and I'm not a fan of Donald Trump because bad Trump is more prevalent than good Trump.

00:22:34.000 I'm not a fan of Donald Trump because I think he thinks the wrong things.

00:22:36.000 I don't think that he's a conservative, but also because he's wildly incompetent and because he's destroying any possibility of defeating Hillary Clinton and all the rest of it.

00:22:44.000 Donald Trump has no capacity to hem himself in.

00:22:48.000 He just doesn't.

00:22:48.000 And it's pathetic.

00:22:50.000 It's pathetic.

00:22:50.000 The media, by the way, are looking for another headline.

00:22:52.000 They're looking to swivel.

00:22:53.000 Yesterday I mentioned they were looking to swivel from Hillary to Donald Trump's Jewish star tweet, right? 0.51

00:22:59.000 What Donald Trump should have done is just shut up.

00:23:00.000 Just shut up about it.

00:23:01.000 You already got rid of it.

00:23:02.000 Just shut up about it.

00:23:03.000 Just go out there and say Hillary a hundred times in a row. 0.99

00:23:06.000 How many times do I have to tell you people, you Trumpsters, if your boy just keeps saying Hillary from now to the election, he puts even people like me, who don't want to vote for Trump, in a bad position because Hillary is such a criminal, felon, lying piece of human garbage. 0.96

00:23:19.000 Okay, but Trump won't do that because he has this aspect of bad Trump.

00:23:24.000 Just as preface, he was on the Hill today, and on the Hill he was trying to recruit Republicans, so naturally he goes into a Republican meeting with members of Congress and proceeds to rip Ben Sasse, Mark Kirk, and Jeff Flake all in a row because they don't back him.

00:23:36.000 He says to Jeff Flake, you're not going to get re-elected, to which Jeff Flake says, I'm not up for re-election this year.

00:23:41.000 He says to Mark Kirk, you're not going to get re-elected either, but I'm going to win your state, Illinois.

00:23:47.000 And then he rips on Ben Sasse.

00:23:48.000 Yeah, that's a genius way

00:23:51.000 To draw support to yourself, but that wasn't the worst bit.

00:23:53.000 So the media are looking desperately.

00:23:55.000 They're looking desperately for an excuse not to talk about Hillary Clinton and her criminality.

00:24:01.000 Normally the media just out squirrel, right?

00:24:02.000 And then they go chase a squirrel.

00:24:04.000 Donald Trump provides an army of squirrels.

00:24:07.000 That's what he does.

00:24:07.000 He has like a squirrel army and he just unleashes it.

00:24:10.000 He just unleashes the squirrel army.

00:24:12.000 So here is Donald Trump tweeting last night about this Jewish star tweet.

00:24:16.000 This ridiculous thing.

00:24:17.000 You remember he tweeted a picture of Hillary Clinton over a bed of money and a Jewish star in the corner.

00:24:23.000 And then he said it wasn't a Jewish star.

00:24:24.000 It wasn't a Jewish star.

00:24:25.000 It was a sheriff's star.

00:24:27.000 Which is ridiculous, right?

00:24:29.000 And because I know that all of Trump supporters who treat me... I just didn't know that all the alt-right people have been tweeting me sheriff stars.

00:24:35.000 If only I'd known that all this time, I would have been less offended.

00:24:37.000 When they put the little star of David on me that says Jude on it, that says Uden on it, then I should have known that.

00:24:42.000 That just meant I was just the sheriff of the Udes.

00:24:45.000 So that's just exciting.

00:24:46.000 So Donald Trump tweeted that out, and then he covered up the star with a circle, and then he justified it.

00:24:51.000 Okay, fine, whatever.

00:24:52.000 Just let it go, okay?

00:24:54.000 Let it go!

00:24:54.000 Okay, but he can't let it go because he has no capacity to let it go.

00:24:57.000 So last night, he tweets this out.

00:25:02.000 And it's a picture of a frozen product, like a sticker book, and it has a six-pointed star that says in it, with 50 stickers.

00:25:14.000 This is what he tweets out, and this is his excuse.

00:25:16.000 Now, a couple of things to point out about this.

00:25:18.000 First, the first place that I'm aware of this image having appeared is on an alt-right Twitter account.

00:25:24.000 Trying to make excuses for Trump.

00:25:25.000 So the alt-right that he says he doesn't monitor apparently provided him with this image that he then used to explain that he wasn't really taking his images from the alt-right.

00:25:32.000 So that's a little awkward.

00:25:34.000 Second of all, I don't see the bet of money next to Elsa right there.

00:25:39.000 Third of all, I wasn't aware that Disney stores were sort of the center of the alt-right online universe.

00:25:45.000 Wasn't aware of that one either.

00:25:47.000 This whole thing is so stupid.

00:25:50.000 That's exactly right, right?

00:25:52.000 I mean, he could have let it go.

00:25:53.000 For the first time in forever, he could have gotten on message.

00:25:57.000 Instead, he just demonstrated, as always, that he's a real fixer-upper.

00:26:00.000 In any case, in any case, Donald Trump does this routine, but he doesn't stop there, gang.

00:26:05.000 He doesn't stop there because Donald Trump is an utter turd tornado.

00:26:08.000 So instead, he goes out there at his rally in Ohio yesterday, and he mentions the Star of David 28 times.

00:26:15.000 Here is Donald Trump talking about the Star of David.

00:26:20.000 We have unbelievably dishonest media.

00:26:24.000 So think of that.

00:26:25.000 So you have the star, which is fine.

00:26:27.000 I shouldn't have taken it down.

00:26:30.000 You know, they took the star down.

00:26:31.000 I said, too bad.

00:26:32.000 You should have left it up.

00:26:34.000 I would have rather defended it.

00:26:35.000 Just leave it up and say, no, that's not a star, David.

00:26:37.000 That's just a star.

00:26:39.000 Okay.

00:26:45.000 He should've left it up.

00:26:47.000 We should've left it up.

00:26:48.000 You idiot!

00:26:49.000 Now we're back to discussing the Jewish star.

00:26:52.000 Even people like me, who actually find this nonsense offensive,

00:26:56.000 Offensive because you flirt with an alt-right group of people who tweet images of gas chambers at me on the day my baby's born.

00:27:01.000 I find that mildly offensive.

00:27:02.000 You know, when you do this sort of stuff, even I'm saying, why aren't you talking about Hillary right now?

00:27:07.000 Why aren't you talking about Hillary?

00:27:08.000 Don't you think that's important?

00:27:09.000 Why wouldn't you do that?

00:27:10.000 Right?

00:27:10.000 But don't worry, he has other things to talk about.

00:27:13.000 Like, for example, at that same rally, he says that he wants to announce somebody he's trying to get to speak at the Republican National Convention.

00:27:18.000 Who, pray tell?

00:27:22.000 African-American youth who have a 59% unemployment rate and have no chance.

00:27:29.000 They have no chance in our society.

00:27:31.000 You know who I just spoke to?

00:27:33.000 Big Don King.

00:27:34.000 Big Don King.

00:27:35.000 I just spoke to him 10 minutes ago.

00:27:37.000 I said, Don, I'd love you to speak at the convention.

00:27:40.000 Because you know what?

00:27:42.000 You beat the system.

00:27:44.000 And he's a friend of mine.

00:27:45.000 Big Don.

00:27:46.000 Greatest boxing promoter of all time.

00:27:50.000 In fact, somebody said, and Mike Tyson endorsed me, as you know.

00:27:53.000 And Don King endorsed me.

00:27:54.000 You know what Don King did?

00:27:55.000 He owns a newspaper.

00:27:57.000 He endorsed Donald Trump for president, Bernie Sanders for vice president.

00:28:01.000 How do you like it?

00:28:02.000 He put up an ad in the paper.

00:28:04.000 In his paper.

00:28:08.000 Okay, shut up. 0.99

00:28:09.000 Just shut your face, you stupid idiot.

00:28:12.000 Just shut up. 1.00

00:28:13.000 Don King is a convicted second-degree murderer.

00:28:17.000 Okay, Don King, he mentioned Mike Tyson there.

00:28:19.000 Don King is so corrupt that Mike Tyson sued him for a hundred million dollars.

00:28:24.000 Okay, Mike Tyson thinks he's terrible.

00:28:25.000 Here's Mike Tyson talking about Don King.

00:28:27.000 I got rid of them, and then I got caught up with this other piece of shit, Don King, who's a wretched... He's just a wretched, slimy, reptilian motherfucker.

00:28:36.000 Right?

00:28:36.000 This is supposed to be my... This is supposed to be my brother, my black brother.

00:28:40.000 Right?

00:28:40.000 He's just... He's just a bad man.

00:28:42.000 He's a real bad man.

00:28:43.000 He abused you, and he would throw you... He would... He would kill his mother for a dollar. 0.63

00:28:48.000 He's ruthless.

00:28:49.000 He's deplorable.

00:28:51.000 He doesn't know how to love anybody.

00:28:52.000 That's just the way he is.

00:28:54.000 The deadest country in the world, man.

00:28:55.000 This is America, baby.

00:28:57.000 Okay, that's the guy that Donald Trump wants to speak at the convention.

00:29:01.000 And that generates a headline.

00:29:02.000 Because Trump is a dolt.

00:29:04.000 Okay?

00:29:05.000 Or, one of two things is true.

00:29:06.000 Either the conspiracists are right, and Donald Trump is in league with the Clintons to throw the election to Hillary, or he's the stupidest man in American politics.

00:29:13.000 He's just a dummy.

00:29:14.000 I mean, because this is bad, guys.

00:29:16.000 Okay?

00:29:17.000 I want him to attack Hillary. 0.95

00:29:18.000 I want Hillary to go to jail. 1.00

00:29:20.000 I want Hillary attacked. 1.00

00:29:21.000 I want Hillary taken down. 1.00

00:29:22.000 I don't even like Trump.

00:29:24.000 But one of the reasons I don't like Trump is because he can't control himself.

00:29:27.000 He has no capacity to control himself.

00:29:29.000 But that wasn't all.

00:29:30.000 Last night, Donald Trump decided it would also be worthwhile to quadruple down on his talk about Saddam Hussein, right?

00:29:36.000 So he goes out there and he says, Saddam Hussein, yeah, he kills terrorists.

00:29:39.000 That's what Saddam Hussein does. 0.95

00:29:41.000 I wake up, I turn on the television.

00:29:43.000 Donald Trump loves Saddam Hussein.

00:29:48.000 He loves Saddam Hussein. 0.80

00:29:51.000 And I was just asked a question by the Cincinnati Enquirer inside.

00:29:54.000 Mr. Trump, is it true that you love Saddam Hussein?

00:29:58.000 Essentially, like, sort of that, you know.

00:30:01.000 I said, that's not what I said.

00:30:03.000 That's not what I said.

00:30:05.000 So that's the narrative that goes around.

00:30:06.000 I actually put a press release out.

00:30:08.000 And now the people that saw it say that was great, but they are liars.

00:30:12.000 These are bad people.

00:30:14.000 These are bad people.

00:30:15.000 And what I did say, and what I did say is that he was good at one thing.

00:30:22.000 He was really good at killing terrorists.

00:30:24.000 He didn't wait around.

00:30:25.000 Do you think they gave the terrorist trials that lasted 18 years?

00:30:31.000 And then after 18 years, if they had the right lawyer, they erect a statue in honor of the terrorists, right?

00:30:37.000 Not with Trump.

00:30:39.000 So, I said, bad guy, really bad guy, but he was good at one thing.

00:30:44.000 He killed terrorists.

00:30:46.000 Next day, Donald Trump loves Saddam Hussein.

00:30:49.000 I don't love Saddam Hussein.

00:30:51.000 I hate Saddam Hussein.

00:30:52.000 But he was damn good at killing terrorists.

00:30:55.000 And now terrorists, the people that want to be terrorists, they go into Iraq.

00:31:00.000 And I said last night, it's the Harvard.

00:31:04.000 It's the Harvard University.

00:31:07.000 He's been saying this crap about Saddam Hussein since last year and the media ignored it.

00:31:10.000 So this is the media targeting him.

00:31:12.000 But you don't have to give them the squirrel army.

00:31:15.000 You don't have to.

00:31:16.000 You could just shut up and say Hillary over and over. 0.63

00:31:18.000 It ain't that tough.

00:31:19.000 All of this allows the New York Times to run with this lead today, right?

00:31:22.000 James Comey's on the Hill to testify about how he let Hillary Clinton off for committing crimes, putting classified information in a place where our enemies could hack them.

00:31:30.000 And here is the lead at the New York Times yesterday, quote,

00:31:47.000 Great job, Donald.

00:31:48.000 Well played, Donald.

00:31:49.000 That doesn't mean that the media is fair.

00:31:50.000 They're not.

00:31:50.000 I said this yesterday.

00:31:51.000 The media are gross.

00:31:52.000 The media are looking for an excuse not to talk Hillary. 1.00

00:31:55.000 Don't give it to them.

00:31:57.000 Why do you have to do this?

00:31:59.000 Why?

00:32:00.000 Why?

00:32:01.000 I mean, it's just, it's amazing.

00:32:03.000 I mean, the biggest gif that was going around the internet yesterday was this one of Donald Trump last night talking about a mosquito.

00:32:11.000 That is an unheard of number.

00:32:13.000 The Democrats... Ooh, there was a mosquito.

00:32:16.000 I don't want mosquitoes around me.

00:32:20.000 I don't like mosquitoes!

00:32:23.000 I don't like those mosquitoes.

00:32:24.000 I never did.

00:32:25.000 Okay, speaking of mosquitoes... Hello, Hillary. 1.00

00:32:29.000 How are you doing?

00:32:32.000 What?

00:32:34.000 What?

00:32:35.000 What?

00:32:35.000 Just what?

00:32:36.000 Okay, fine.

00:32:36.000 Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is staying on whatever message she's got left, because she's a corrupt, lying, Herodian witch.

00:32:42.000 So here is Hillary Clinton in Atlantic City. 0.95

00:32:46.000 I said yesterday, I think it occurred to me, that Hillary Clinton actually likes getting down in the mud with people, because it's what she's good at. 1.00

00:32:51.000 She's not really good at policy, but she is good at, I'm gonna try and knife people. 1.00

00:32:56.000 It's one of her favorite things to do.

00:32:57.000 So she goes to Atlantic City, stands in front of a defunct Trump casino, and then does this.

00:33:03.000 Now let's just look at this for a minute.

00:33:06.000 Donald Trump says he's qualified to be president because of his business record.

00:33:18.000 Now three weeks ago he said, and I quote, I'm going to do for the country what I did for my business.

00:33:28.000 Now, you know, when he says things like that,

00:33:32.000 He's probably hoping nobody will check up on what he has said.

00:33:38.000 Because what he did for his businesses and his workers is nothing to brag about.

00:33:46.000 In fact, it's shameful.

00:33:49.000 And every single voter in America needs to know about it, so we don't let him do to our country what he did to his businesses!

00:33:59.000 Here's the problem.

00:34:00.000 Right now, if Trump were a good candidate, what Trump would come back with is, well, we shouldn't let Hillary Clinton do to our country what she did to our country! 1.00

00:34:09.000 Right?

00:34:10.000 She shouldn't, like, that was her job, was not to screw us, and she did. 0.63

00:34:13.000 But Trump is busy talking about Jewish stars and Don King and whatever nonsense is going through his addled brain.

00:34:20.000 Okay.

00:34:21.000 Meanwhile, in other big news today, there have been two shootings, we talked about one of these yesterday, there have been two shootings in the United States that are getting all sorts of attention, and I want to go through them real quickly.

00:34:31.000 My first point here, my first point here is obvious.

00:34:35.000 We need more evidence in these shootings to determine what actually happened.

00:34:38.000 And people are going crazy over people even saying there should be more evidence before we make a determination as to guilt and innocence of the officers involved.

00:34:45.000 Because I like evidence.

00:34:46.000 I don't know about you, I like it.

00:34:47.000 The reason I like it is because back in 2014, during the Darren Wilson Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson, Missouri, more than 50%, 57% of the black community thought that Darren Wilson should get the death penalty for shooting Michael Brown.

00:35:02.000 Okay, it was in August of 2014, before all the evidence was out.

00:35:06.000 56% of white people said we need to wait to hear more evidence as to what exactly happened here.

00:35:10.000 Only one of those is the right answer.

00:35:12.000 Right?

00:35:12.000 Only one of those is the right answer.

00:35:13.000 Wait to hear more evidence.

00:35:14.000 When the evidence came out, it was clear.

00:35:15.000 Michael Brown, the entire narrative was a lie.

00:35:18.000 So all I suggest, folks, is just hold off.

00:35:20.000 Just hold off.

00:35:21.000 But, President Obama is incapable of holding off because he likes setting racial fires.

00:35:25.000 It's what he does for a living.

00:35:26.000 He sets racial fires, and then he tries to put them out, supposedly, by saying, give me more power at the federal government level.

00:35:33.000 I'll use the FBI and DOJ to cram down my vision of the universe on local communities.

00:35:38.000 So,

00:35:39.000 There were two shootings.

00:35:40.000 One is this shooting of a guy named Elton Sterling in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

00:35:43.000 We talked about him yesterday.

00:35:44.000 Long criminal record.

00:35:45.000 And there's a 911 phone call by a homeless guy saying that Elton Sterling was outside a convenience store waving around a gun and threatening people.

00:35:53.000 The police show up.

00:35:54.000 He resists arrest.

00:35:55.000 They tackle him to the ground.

00:35:56.000 There are two cops on top of him.

00:35:58.000 And then we can watch the video.

00:35:59.000 It's a little bit graphic, but here is the first Elton Sterling shooting video.

00:36:22.000 See them both on top of this guy now.

00:36:24.000 They've tackled him.

00:36:25.000 They're trying to secure him.

00:36:39.000 Okay, so what you're actually seeing there that you don't see anymore.

00:36:41.000 So from that angle, you can't see what actually is going on, but you hear the cop shouting, he's got a gun, if you make a move, basically I'll blow you away, and then both cops start shouting, gun, and then they shoot him.

00:36:54.000 Right, so this entire- so everybody goes insane.

00:36:56.000 Everybody goes insane.

00:36:57.000 Here's the second tape that came out, different angle.

00:36:59.000 And you can see it a little bit more clearly, but you still can't see what he's doing with his hand, which is really the only relevant consideration here.

00:37:04.000 Is he going for the gun in his pocket?

00:37:05.000 By the way, illegal for him to have a gun.

00:37:07.000 He was a felon on probation.

00:37:09.000 But even that's irrelevant, because if he doesn't go for the gun, then you shouldn't shoot him.

00:37:12.000 So the question here is, does he go for the gun or does he not go for the gun?

00:37:16.000 And this is the only other video.

00:37:17.000 These are the only two videos we've seen.

00:37:18.000 That's it.

00:37:19.000 These two videos.

00:37:20.000 Here's the other video of the shooting from a different angle.

00:37:25.000 Okay.

00:37:40.000 Hey bro, you effing move, I'll shoot you basically.

00:37:43.000 Right?

00:37:44.000 And then they shoot him a bunch of times and they kill him.

00:37:47.000 Okay.

00:37:47.000 So, again, could you see in that video what he's doing with his hands?

00:37:51.000 I can't see what he's doing with his hands because the officers are obstructing.

00:37:53.000 You can't see what he's doing with his hands.

00:37:55.000 Now does it look to me like he's absolutely subdued?

00:37:59.000 No, it doesn't.

00:38:01.000 But, you know, we'll wait to see more evidence.

00:38:03.000 So, I'm not going to make a judgment.

00:38:04.000 Do they deserve to go to jail?

00:38:05.000 I don't know yet.

00:38:06.000 Let's wait for more evidence.

00:38:07.000 Now, shooting two.

00:38:09.000 So, well, first, here's what the New York Daily News cover feature, because the New York Daily News is a lefty newspaper, right?

00:38:14.000 It's that exact picture.

00:38:16.000 It says, his hands were empty.

00:38:17.000 Cops killed Alton Sterling despite his being pinned to the ground and never pulling a gun.

00:38:21.000 That wasn't the question, whether he pulled the gun.

00:38:23.000 The question is if he went for the gun.

00:38:26.000 Okay, so that doesn't mean it's justified.

00:38:27.000 We don't know yet, okay?

00:38:28.000 More information.

00:38:28.000 More- I know this is a tough concept for people.

00:38:30.000 More evidence.

00:38:30.000 Okay, here's the other shooting.

00:38:32.000 So here's another shooting.

00:38:32.000 This is a shooting that happens near St.

00:38:34.000 Paul, Minnesota.

00:38:46.000 And in this particular shooting, the victim's name is Philandro Castile.

00:38:51.000 Okay, and Philandro Castile, we actually don't see this.

00:38:54.000 What happened here is that the cop shoots Philandro Castile.

00:38:57.000 We don't see any of that.

00:38:58.000 All we see is the aftermath.

00:38:59.000 So what you're about to see is the girlfriend is sitting in the passenger seat, and she starts live-streaming this.

00:39:04.000 I think it's on Facebook or YouTube or something.

00:39:06.000 She starts live-streaming this to the web, and she is live-streaming this as her boyfriend is bleeding out next to her.

00:39:13.000 So here's what this looks like.

00:39:14.000 Stay with me.

00:39:16.000 We got pulled over for a busted taillight in the back.

00:39:19.000 And the police, he's covered.

00:39:22.000 They killed my boyfriend.

00:39:26.000 He's licensed to carry.

00:39:28.000 He was trying to get out his ID and his wallet out his pocket.

00:39:32.000 And he let the officer know that he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet.

00:39:40.000 And the officer just shot him in his arm.

00:39:43.000 We're waiting for a backup.

00:39:45.000 I will, sir.

00:39:46.000 No worries.

00:39:48.000 He just shot his arm off.

00:39:51.000 We got pulled over on Larpiner.

00:39:53.000 I told him not to reach for it!

00:39:55.000 I told him to get his hand off it! 0.67

00:39:57.000 You told him to get his ID, sir, and his driver's license.

00:40:00.000 Oh my God, please don't tell me he's dead.

00:40:03.000 Please don't tell me my boyfriend just went like that.

00:40:06.000 Just keep your hands where they are, please.

00:40:07.000 Yes, I will, sir.

00:40:08.000 I'll keep my hands where they are.

00:40:11.000 Please don't tell me this, Lord.

00:40:13.000 Please, Jesus, don't tell me that he's gone.

00:40:15.000 Please don't tell me that he's gone.

00:40:17.000 Please, officer, don't tell me that you just did this to him.

00:40:20.000 You shot four bullets into him, sir.

00:40:24.000 He was just getting his license and registration, sir.

00:40:30.000 Okay, and it continues like this for another nine minutes.

00:40:32.000 So, two things.

00:40:34.000 One, this looks different to me than the other shoot.

00:40:37.000 The reason it looks different to me than the other shoot is because of the tone and tenor of the people involved afterward.

00:40:41.000 So she's sitting there, and she's all calm, which is kind of weird.

00:40:44.000 But what she's describing, and she chastises the officer.

00:40:47.000 She says, you asked him basically to get his ID, and then you shot him.

00:40:50.000 And the officer says, I can't believe, you know, I told him not to reach for it.

00:40:53.000 I told him not to reach for the gun, and he reached for it.

00:40:55.000 But he's very agitated, obviously.

00:40:57.000 The officer's yelling.

00:40:58.000 You can hear in his voice, and this is just a layperson's opinion, obviously, to me, it sounds like this is a guy who just realized he made a huge boo-boo that's going to not only kill this guy, but is going to destroy his own life.

00:41:07.000 That's what it sounds to me like from the tone of the officer.

00:41:10.000 Now, you can't tell much from the tone of an officer.

00:41:13.000 Again, there's no evidence here.

00:41:15.000 We don't know what actually happened inside the car.

00:41:17.000 I don't know if the cop has a body cam.

00:41:19.000 We may find out, but there's no evidence.

00:41:21.000 Number one, there's not enough evidence to convict based on what happens after the shoot.

00:41:25.000 What happens after the shooting, right?

00:41:26.000 We just don't know.

00:41:27.000 We don't know, okay?

00:41:28.000 There needs to be more evidence.

00:41:29.000 Number two, even if he shot the guy, is that evidence that it was racism, or is it possible that he's just wildly incompetent, this cop?

00:41:37.000 He's a really bad, incompetent cop.

00:41:38.000 Is that possible, too?

00:41:39.000 You need to actually show proof of racism.

00:41:41.000 Doesn't matter for the left.

00:41:42.000 Doesn't matter for the left.

00:41:43.000 So President Obama has already released this statement, quote,

00:41:46.000 All Americans should be deeply troubled by the fatal shootings of Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and Philando Castile in Falcon Heights, Minnesota.

00:41:54.000 We've seen such tragedies far too many times.

00:41:56.000 Our hearts go out to the families and communities who suffered such a painful loss.

00:42:00.000 Although I am constrained in commenting on the particular facts of these cases, I am encouraged that the DOJ has opened a civil rights investigation in Baton Rouge.

00:42:07.000 I have full confidence in their professionalism and ability to conduct a thoughtful, thorough, and fair inquiry.

00:42:12.000 But regardless, and this is

00:42:14.000 Typical Obama.

00:42:15.000 And it's really gross, actually.

00:42:35.000 To admit we've got a serious problem in no way contradicts our respect and appreciation for the vast majority of police officers who put their lives on the line to protect us every single day.

00:42:43.000 It is to say that as a nation we can and must do better to institute the best practices that reduce the appearance or reality of racial bias in law enforcement.

00:42:51.000 Appearance, not just reality.

00:42:53.000 Appearance of racial bias in law enforcement.

00:42:56.000 This is President Obama setting a fire without any evidence.

00:42:58.000 That's what he's doing here.

00:42:59.000 Again, there's not enough evidence to convict these guys.

00:43:01.000 We don't know what happened here.

00:43:03.000 We have a tape in one case that starts after the shoot, and in the other case, we have two tapes, both of which obstruct the key moments of the shoot.

00:43:10.000 We don't know what happened.

00:43:11.000 It doesn't stop Obama, though.

00:43:13.000 From race-baiting, because this is what Democrats do. 0.67

00:43:15.000 This is what Barack Obama does.

00:43:17.000 Never mind the statistics.

00:43:18.000 Never mind that more white people than black people are shot by the cops, and that in circumstances in which people confront the cops, it is more likely a white guy will get shot than a black guy. 0.61

00:43:26.000 Never mind the fact that black cops are actually more likely to shoot black suspects in the NYPD than white cops are likely to shoot black suspects.

00:43:33.000 Never mind any of that.

00:43:34.000 Never mind that the number of people who are shot, black people who are shot unarmed in the United States by the cops, the number of those people is, I believe, in double digits every year.

00:43:45.000 Significantly in low double digits every year.

00:43:47.000 And that's an epidemic.

00:43:49.000 It's a serious problem in law enforcement.

00:43:50.000 This is what Obama does.

00:43:51.000 He doesn't worry about statistics.

00:43:53.000 He doesn't worry about statistical trends.

00:43:54.000 All he does is he sets fires.

00:43:57.000 Without evidence.

00:43:57.000 Again, without evidence.

00:43:58.000 Maybe these guys are guilty.

00:43:59.000 Maybe everybody's guilty.

00:44:00.000 Maybe they are.

00:44:01.000 That still doesn't demonstrate a systematic bias against black people.

00:44:04.000 It still doesn't demonstrate anything beyond incompetence of these individual police officers or maybe their department.

00:44:09.000 And even if they're both guilty, even if they're both guilty, you don't know that right now.

00:44:14.000 But Obama is jumping to conclusions in a single bound, and it really is quite gross.

00:44:19.000 By the way, I will point this out.

00:44:20.000 This is a tape.

00:44:21.000 I'm going to show you a tape from Fresno that's not getting any attention at all.

00:44:24.000 This happened like a week ago, a couple weeks ago.

00:44:27.000 You're about to watch a 19-year-old guy get shot by the cops.

00:44:30.000 Put your hands up!

00:44:33.000 Put your hands up!

00:44:54.000 Okay, so a guy lying prone on the ground, underneath a truck it appears, or next to a truck, and the cops shooting him.

00:45:00.000 So the cops say that the guy went for a gun in his waistband, right, and then they shot him.

00:45:04.000 Now, you haven't seen this on the news at all, have you?

00:45:06.000 You've never heard of this thing in Fresno.

00:45:08.000 You haven't seen it.

00:45:08.000 Why?

00:45:08.000 Well, because the guy on the ground is white.

00:45:11.000 So you haven't seen any of this.

00:45:12.000 Maybe the cops are racist. 0.99

00:45:13.000 Maybe the cops are racist. 0.99

00:45:15.000 Amazing.

00:45:16.000 Amazing.

00:45:17.000 So, again, this sort of racial divisiveness is something the left loves, and it's really quite horrifying.

00:45:23.000 Again, it's just another way, and by the way, it does generate more deaths, because it means the cops are not going to go and police in communities where they feel they might have to shoot somebody, and it also means that people are going to be more abrasive with the cops, because they feel that no matter what they do, the cops are going to kill them anyway.

00:45:37.000 Alright, time for a couple of things I liked, and a thing I hate, and then some mailbag, even though we're way over time, but hey, whatever.

00:45:44.000 Okay, so, things I like when doing Westerns all week.

00:45:46.000 So here's a lesser-known Western, modern Western.

00:45:48.000 It's actually a very good picture.

00:45:50.000 It's actually tough to come up with great Westerns.

00:45:52.000 There aren't that many terrific Westerns.

00:45:53.000 Some good old ones, The Searchers and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valens.

00:45:57.000 I'm partial to some old John Wayne movies, like the original True Grit or Big Jake, but...

00:46:02.000 Beautiful country.

00:46:02.000 Man can get lost out here.

00:46:03.000 Forget there's people and things that ain't so simple as this.

00:46:28.000 How long have we been riding together, Charlie?

00:46:30.000 Now, ten years.

00:46:34.000 You know what they call that?

00:46:35.000 They call it a decade.

00:46:39.000 I always hoped somebody gentle and caring might come along.

00:46:44.000 I'm not who you think I am, Sue.

00:46:48.000 My name's Denton Baxter.

00:46:49.000 You know, folks around these parts don't take the free grazers.

00:46:53.000 Always been country plenty for man and beast.

00:46:55.000 Times change, Mr. Spearman.

00:46:58.000 Most of the time, a man will tell you his bad intentions if you listen, let yourself hear it.

00:47:02.000 You reckon them cows worth getting killed over?

00:47:04.000 Cows is one thing, but one man telling another man where he can go in this country is something else.

00:47:09.000 The lawman who sat in that jailhouse sort of sneering sticks in my craw.

00:47:13.000 The whole town knows there's a fight coming.

00:47:16.000 I just hope it don't spill over to them.

00:47:17.000 Max's men pushed back their friends, shot him dead, shot a 16-year-old boy, too, and clubbed him so hard, he might not live.

00:47:25.000 I got no problem with killing, boss.

00:47:29.000 Never have.

00:47:32.000 Okay, so it's actually like an old-school Western, and the last shootout is fantastic.

00:47:36.000 It's a really well-shot shootout.

00:47:37.000 There's one shot in particular that's fantastic.

00:47:39.000 So, open range with Kevin Costner and Robert Duvall.

00:47:41.000 I'm not even a Costner fan.

00:47:42.000 This is one of his better performances.

00:47:44.000 Which isn't saying much, but actually it's a good performance, so that's saying more.

00:47:47.000 Okay, so let's skip to things that I hate.

00:47:50.000 So, Marvel Comics has decided that they need to get involved in every political controversy they can.

00:47:54.000 This annoys me.

00:47:55.000 I read these comics, and I understand that now they want to diversify every character.

00:47:59.000 So the new Iron Man is a 15-year-old black girl. 0.80

00:48:02.000 Whatever.

00:48:02.000 They made Thor a woman.

00:48:04.000 Whatever.

00:48:04.000 Like, I think it's stupid to take iconic characters and then replace them with anybody, but the fact that they're now doing this so we can get the United Colors of Benetton is kind of silly to me.

00:48:12.000 But, here's something even dumber.

00:48:13.000 So Marvel has decided that they're doing a comic in which the villain is clearly Donald Trump.

00:48:18.000 Right, so this is the villain, Donald Trump.

00:48:22.000 And it's supposed to be, I think it's Modak, is what it's called.

00:48:25.000 Modak.

00:48:26.000 And it's something about making America great again, essentially.

00:48:29.000 And so he's the big villain in this new Marvel comic, and you've got the picture of the Mexican border, and the whole deal.

00:48:35.000 Okay, this is absolutely idiotic.

00:48:38.000 This is absolutely stupid.

00:48:39.000 And the reason that this is absolutely stupid is because if you're trying to draw an audience of young people, presumably,

00:48:46.000 There's some young people who may disagree with you on politics.

00:48:49.000 It's really silly and ridiculous to create these comics where a major presidential candidate, someone I don't even like, right?

00:48:56.000 This is how the culture biases kids toward political figures.

00:49:00.000 I mean, they did another comic, I think Marvel did one last week, in which Justin Trudeau, the socialist idiot prime minister from Canada, he's the hero.

00:49:09.000 The comics should leave a lot of the politics out of it.

00:49:11.000 They can.

00:49:12.000 It's possible to do it.

00:49:13.000 You can tackle big issues without getting specifically insulting about major political personages in the United States, but the lefties can't help it and they brag to all their comic book buddies about it.

00:49:22.000 So, I find that ridiculous and insulting.

00:49:24.000 Okay, couple entries from the mailbag.

00:49:27.000 Alright, Nathan.

00:49:28.000 When assessing Trump, how much consideration do you believe we should give regarding the staff he brings in and the people he surrounds himself with?

00:49:34.000 Remember that he did fire evil Corey Lewandowski.

00:49:37.000 Okay, Nate, I don't pay any attention to the people he puts around him because in the end Trump rules Trump.

00:49:41.000 Right?

00:49:41.000 Manafort was supposed to get Trump under control?

00:49:44.000 That's not going well.

00:49:46.000 Matt writes, Hey Ben, would you consider doing a little bio or Q&A segment with different members of the crew?

00:49:50.000 It would be cool to get to know a little more about Lindsay Mathis and the rest of the crew.

00:49:54.000 It would also give you more reason to make jokes about them.

00:49:56.000 Only the last reason is convincing.

00:49:58.000 So yeah, we can do a little bit of a bio about Lindsay and Mathis with their permission.

00:50:02.000 We'll have to put together little video segments where they introduce themselves and we'll play them and I'll mock them and it'll be lots of fun.

00:50:10.000 So we'll definitely do that because you have a right to know the people who are behind the camera in this, the greatest of all shows in human history.

00:50:18.000 Tyler writes, hi Ben!

00:50:20.000 I appreciate your advice.

00:50:21.000 So...

00:50:36.000 I mean, basically, I have two kids now, which means that my reading time is constrained to after they go to bed and when I'm in the bathroom.

00:50:42.000 That's basically my reading time at this point.

00:50:45.000 My work sort of informs me constantly because I'm constantly reading throughout the day on the news, the background for the news.

00:50:52.000 Instead of keeping a reading list, I actually just have a giant pile of books next to my bed that I'm constantly refreshing and replenishing.

00:50:59.000 I have no less than probably 30 volumes next to my bed at any given time, and I sort of make my way through them and I build it up and I take it down.

00:51:06.000 I'm constantly... I mean, I have... I think I own...

00:51:09.000 Probably six or seven thousand books in my house.

00:51:11.000 We ran out of space in my old house.

00:51:12.000 We had to buy a bigger new house so I could do it.

00:51:14.000 My study doesn't contain all of them.

00:51:15.000 I have two rooms in my house that are specifically dedicated to books, and they're both big.

00:51:19.000 So it's, you know, reading is obviously where I get most of my information.

00:51:23.000 Joseph, what do you think of Viggo Mortensen as an actor, and also how he became a recluse after Lord of the Rings?

00:51:29.000 I really have no opinion on him becoming a recluse after Lord of the Rings.

00:51:32.000 I think Viggo Mortensen is a terrific actor, and I don't think that his best performance... You want to see some range, watch him in Eastern Promises and Lord of the Rings.

00:51:38.000 Eastern Promises, which I haven't done, is a thing I like.

00:51:41.000 Great movie.

00:51:42.000 Really, really good movie.

00:51:43.000 Very gritty, not for the kids, obviously, there's some nudity, but it's a terrific, terrific movie, and Viggo Mortensen is a really good actor, really has range.

00:51:51.000 Chase, I recently read your book Porn Generation, was both frightened and inspired by it.

00:51:56.000 In the book, you spoke of the left's defining deviancy down so as to allow much of their twisted moral conduct to be classified as normal.

00:52:02.000 Do you think the same concept can be applied to the left's political conduct?

00:52:05.000 Absolutely, this is what they're doing.

00:52:06.000 Now, the new normal is you get to have private servers, or the new normal is Barack Obama gets to run roughshod over the Constitution, or the new normal is every aspect of American government gets to be twisted for political benefit by the left.

00:52:18.000 Absolutely, that's true.

00:52:20.000 Ivar writes,

00:52:21.000 If you had to choose a country outside the English-speaking world in Israel, where would you want to live and why?

00:52:26.000 I wouldn't really want to live outside of the English-speaking world.

00:52:29.000 I mean, I assume that there's some places in Europe that are not English-speaking that seem like they're relatively nice.

00:52:37.000 Italy...

00:52:38.000 Seems like a fun place to live.

00:52:39.000 When I visited there, it was nice.

00:52:40.000 I haven't been to enough countries to give you a great answer to that, but honestly, I would prefer to just stake out my own country and buy an island and then start it anew.

00:52:49.000 And I would have a couple of rules, right?

00:52:51.000 I mean, basically, it would be that no taxes, except for a very, very low voluntary tax for defense, no business taxes, and we would quickly become the most powerful country on planet Earth.

00:53:04.000 Michael writes, did you choose the thug life or did the thug life choose you?

00:53:08.000 The thug life chose me. 0.99

00:53:10.000 I was just walking down the street and it grabbed me.

00:53:12.000 Okay, Andrew.

00:53:13.000 My father, age 50, thinks that Reagan's prediction has come true and his generation was truly the last free generation and socialism is here.

00:53:20.000 No majority believes in small government anymore.

00:53:22.000 Do you agree with this?

00:53:23.000 Well, I think that the evidence tends to show that there's truth to that, but that doesn't mean that we can't re-educate people and fix this.

00:53:28.000 I think that most Americans don't know anything about economics.

00:53:30.000 I think most Americans don't know what socialism means.

00:53:33.000 They think that Denmark is a socialist country.

00:53:35.000 Denmark is a more business-friendly country than we are.

00:53:37.000 They rank 11th on the Heritage Foundation's list of business friendliness because they have virtually no tariffs and they have very low business tax rates.

00:53:44.000 Socialism is government ownership of the means of production.

00:53:47.000 Democratic socialism is the idea that you're going to redistribute massive amounts of wealth from private producers, but both of those stink.

00:53:55.000 And if we just educate people about that, I do think there's a shot otherwise I wouldn't be in this business.

00:54:00.000 Hey Ben, what is your opinion of recycling?

00:54:02.000 Is it legitimately helpful or leftist garbage?

00:54:03.000 No pun intended.

00:54:04.000 So, I'm not an expert on recycling.

00:54:06.000 I will say the people in LA treat it like it's a part of the leftist catechism.

00:54:12.000 Like if you put a plastic bottle in the garbage, well hell will come for ye.

00:54:18.000 And it doesn't matter that most of this stuff ends up in the landfill anyway.

00:54:20.000 I mean, even a lot of the stuff that's supposed to be recycled isn't recycled.

00:54:23.000 It goes to the landfill.

00:54:25.000 It actually produces more, it actually produces other waste products to recycle.

00:54:29.000 It costs a lot of energy to recycle because you have to break down stuff that'd be cheaper to make new, so there are actual energy costs in all of that.

00:54:36.000 But it doesn't matter, it's become part of the leftist catechism.

00:54:39.000 Jessica says, what is your opinion on the Free the Delegate movement?

00:54:41.000 Good, bad, obsolete?

00:54:43.000 Is this something delegates should be pursuing?

00:54:45.000 So my opinion is, there's sort of the normative and the descriptive.

00:54:48.000 I don't think that the Free the Delegate movement is going to succeed.

00:54:51.000 I don't think there's anything illegitimate about the Free the Delegate movement because I don't think that the delegations in the first place are particularly democratic.

00:54:58.000 On any level.

00:54:59.000 I think Donald Trump won 33% in South Carolina and won 100% of the delegates.

00:55:03.000 I think Ted Cruz didn't even have a popular primary in Colorado and won 100% of the delegates.

00:55:08.000 The delegate system is not meant to reflect the popular will, really.

00:55:12.000 The delegate system is meant to allow the party bosses to basically pick who they think should run, and so long as that's the case, I mean, if you're gonna have a corrupt system, then you may as well corrupt it in favor of the good.

00:55:21.000 At least that's the case the Trumpsters keep making.

00:55:23.000 Okay, Vince says, if liberal states and cities can become sanctuaries for illegal immigrants, why can't a state like Texas declare itself a sanctuary for the unborn and refuse to follow the recent SCOTUS decision regarding the regulation of abortion clinics?

00:55:36.000 Well, okay, so legally, there's a legal question and a moral question.

00:55:39.000 Morally, they should do this.

00:55:40.000 Obviously.

00:55:41.000 There's nothing in the Constitution that says a state can't do this.

00:55:44.000 Legally speaking, the difference is the federal government saying to the state government that it is illegal for there to be legal immigrants in the country.

00:55:53.000 There's actual laws.

00:55:54.000 The state government cannot be made into an arm of the federal government.

00:55:57.000 They have to voluntarily acquiesce in that.

00:55:59.000 The same is not true with abortion.

00:56:00.000 In abortion, the idea is that the federal government will come in and enforce the woman's ability to have an abortion. 1.00

00:56:08.000 So, in a way, it's the sanctuary for the unborn, but the question is really what the federal government is going to do about it.

00:56:14.000 And the federal government is going to say it's not a matter of the federal government making the state into an agent of its will, it's the federal government trying to overcome the state in order to ensure what it sees as a constitutional right, falsely and wrongly.

00:56:27.000 Luis says, whenever rights are taken away from employees and whenever products are hazardous or dangerous to customers, to what extent should the government step in?

00:56:34.000 By the way, can Lindsey have her own podcast or make a cameo on the show? 0.99

00:56:37.000 Lindsey's made a cameo on the show before, gang, and I understand that you're addicted to Lindsey.

00:56:41.000 I understand that you just can't get over the fact that Lindsey's here.

00:56:44.000 I understand that she's the only female in a 50-mile radius, but Lindsey can't do a cameo every single time. 1.00

00:56:50.000 I mean, just watch the beginning when we do Facebook Live.

00:56:52.000 Just watch us on Facebook Live.

00:56:53.000 Lindsey's on screen doing my makeup and dancing around crazily, and you can watch Lindsey doing all of those things if you watch the Facebook Live, or if you subscribe.

00:57:02.000 We do this sometimes.

00:57:03.000 Um, and as far as when rights are taken away from employees, you don't get to violate anybody else's rights.

00:57:07.000 The government has a role in preventing people from violating the rights of others.

00:57:11.000 Okay, that's all the time that we have for The Mailbag, but we will be back next week with more crazy news.

00:57:16.000 Apparently Donald Trump is talking about making Ivanka his vice president, which I desperately hope happens, because, I mean, come on, we just have to...

00:57:24.000 We have to make this election cycle as crazy as humanly possible.

00:57:27.000 We have to.

00:57:28.000 So we'll see how crazy it gets over the weekend and we will be back Monday.

00:57:32.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:57:32.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - July 07, 2016

Ep. 146 - The FBI Defended Hillary By Destroying The Law

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