The Ben Shapiro Show

00:00:00.000 On Monday, socialist icon Senator Bernie Sanders said that now that he's no longer running for president, there's no need for him to reveal his campaign financial information.

00:00:08.000 He said, it doesn't make any sense, he said.

00:00:11.000 Completing such a filing, he continued, would be a waste of time.

00:00:14.000 He was supposed to file his current financial information May 15th, but he got an extension.

00:00:18.000 Now, if you remember, during the primaries, Bernie Sanders called for complete transparency regarding the funding of campaigns.

00:00:25.000 Now, says NBC News, quote, in the teeth of a Democratic primary where Sanders posed a bona fide threat to Clinton, voters couldn't definitively know whether Sanders, historically one of the Senate's least wealthy members, suddenly parlayed his political fame into personal profit or, for that matter, whether he sustained financial distress.

00:00:41.000 The form Sanders didn't file would have detailed his finances through the middle of May 2016.

00:00:46.000 There's a reason Sanders didn't turn in his paperwork like all good socialists.

00:00:50.000 He gets a little touchy about his own finances.

00:00:53.000 And he games the system.

00:00:54.000 This week, Bernie Sanders tweeted, quote, To my Republican colleagues, if you do not have the guts to defend your ideas in a free election, get another job!

00:01:02.000 I responded, quote, you endorsed Hillary and then you bought a vacation home, socialist hero.

00:01:06.000 But socialists never take responsibility for their own personal economics or for their campaign economics or for their economic policies at all.

00:01:13.000 Venezuelans are busy killing horses to eat them.

00:01:16.000 Citizens are murdering one another over loaves of bread down there.

00:01:18.000 And they're doing that because Venezuela has used Bernie Sanders' economics.

00:01:22.000 But Sanders is sitting pretty with three homes and a wife who bankrupted a college thanks to her frivolous spending.

00:01:28.000 Yes, seriously, because it turns out that when it comes to the socialists, well,

00:01:32.000 What's good for the goose is not good for the Sanders.

00:01:34.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:01:35.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:01:41.000 So much, so much to get to today.

00:01:42.000 Oh, so much.

00:01:43.000 And we're very excited about all of this.

00:01:44.000 Today is a Tuesday.

00:01:45.000 That means it's time to deconstruct the culture.

00:01:47.000 So we'll be doing that a little bit later in the program, which means we make fun of Ariana Grande for 10 minutes, basically.

00:01:52.000 So that'll be exciting.

00:01:53.000 You want to stick around for that.

00:01:55.000 But we begin today with the Clinton Foundation and all of the Democrats beginning to realize, oh, wait, Hillary Clinton is corrupt.

00:02:02.000 To which we say, yes, we knew that.

00:02:04.000 We've been telling you that for 20 years.

00:02:06.000 And while there are those of us in the Republican Party who still experience significant stomach-churning, acid-eating-away-at-our-esophagus angst over Donald Trump and his problems, you guys wanted Hillary Clinton.

00:02:18.000 You begged for Hillary Clinton.

00:02:19.000 You wanted her on that wall.

00:02:21.000 You needed her on that wall.

00:02:22.000 And so, you got her.

00:02:24.000 And now, it's getting awkward, because it turns out the Clinton Foundation is basically just a pass-through for Hillary Clinton and the State Department.

00:02:30.000 New information out today, Huma Abedin, who is the very, very not-lesbian friend of Hillary Clinton's very, very not-lesbian first lady.

00:02:38.000 They, uh, Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin, turns out Huma Abedin was stashing classified materials in her car.

00:02:45.000 Yes, in her car.

00:02:46.000 Now, my wife worked at the VA, and she's a doctor, and she worked at the Veterans Administration while she was in medical school, and you had to comply with basic classification rules about health information.

00:02:59.000 If you accidentally brought a document out of the hospital, you could theoretically be prosecuted.

00:03:03.000 Huma Abedin took classified material and just left it in the front seat of her car.

00:03:06.000 No problem at all.

00:03:07.000 We're also finding out pretty much every day there's a new dictator who comes out and says, yes, of course we paid Hillary Clinton a massive amount of money to have tea with her and also for her to give us Ukraine, right?

00:03:18.000 That sort of thing is happening pretty much every day now.

00:03:20.000 And the Democrats are starting to realize, oh, yeah, this sucks.

00:03:24.000 This is not good.

00:03:25.000 James Carville, the raging Cajun, is out there defending Hillary Clinton, and this is pretty ridiculous.

00:03:33.000 So the Clinton Foundation was, A, taking no money for the Clintons, raising money from rich people, and giving it to poor people.

00:03:42.000 And all of a sudden, the press has decided that we're going to go after this and shut it down.

00:03:46.000 And you know what?

00:03:47.000 You're probably going to be successful.

00:03:48.000 And there are going to be people that are going to die because of this.

00:03:54.000 Everything that I've ever been associated with Bill Clinton, the three things I am most proud of

00:03:59.000 First, he stopped the genocide in Bosnia.

00:04:01.000 Second, the Human Genome Project, of which my kids and grandchildren will forever thank him for.

00:04:06.000 And third is the Clinton Foundation.

00:04:09.000 Okay, so James Carville, who at this point really, really looks like a bald weasel, he is apparently very upset that anyone wants to shut down the Clinton Foundation because of all the good it's done.

00:04:19.000 The Clinton Foundation is a giant slush fund.

00:04:21.000 They give grants to other charities.

00:04:22.000 They're just a pass-through.

00:04:24.000 They don't really have projects of their own.

00:04:26.000 They just have lots of money coming in.

00:04:28.000 I think so.

00:04:44.000 Other Democrats are saying, who aren't Clinton loyalists nearly as much, I mean, they still like Hillary, but they're not like James Carville, who's made his bones defending Hillary Clinton.

00:04:53.000 They're saying the Clinton Foundation is just a crap show.

00:04:55.000 Ben Cardin is a senator from Maryland.

00:04:57.000 He says the Clinton Foundation, yeah, the way they do business, it's a problem.

00:05:00.000 Do you think the foundation should shut down altogether?

00:05:02.000 Well, first, let's recognize what the foundation has been able to do.

00:05:06.000 The Clinton Foundation has helped millions of people.

00:05:08.000 Over 10 million HIV-AIDS alone has saved countless lives.

00:05:13.000 Its work is extremely important to global health.

00:05:17.000 So they've done some really great things.

00:05:19.000 Now, with Hillary Clinton being elected president, which we hope it will be, they clearly need to change the way they do business.

00:05:26.000 And they've indicated they will.

00:05:27.000 They're not going to accept any donations from foreign entities.

00:05:30.000 They're going to change the way that the Clintons themselves interact with the foundation.

00:05:35.000 Those decisions will...

00:05:40.000 It'll all work out okay, as long as they separate.

00:05:42.000 I do love that now they're talking up the work of the Clinton Foundation.

00:05:45.000 I watched a lot of the DNC, unfortunately, and wasted hours of my life doing so.

00:05:49.000 I don't remember a single mention of the Clinton Foundation.

00:05:52.000 Nobody was talking about the Clinton Foundation.

00:05:54.000 Now, if you ran a charity that saved tens of millions of lives, wouldn't you be bragging about that at, like, every opportunity if you were running for political office?

00:06:01.000 But nobody in the Clinton side has talked about the Clinton Foundation because it's embarrassing, because it was a scam.

00:06:07.000 And of course they did some good work.

00:06:08.000 What kind of scam would do no good work?

00:06:11.000 I mean, really, if you're gonna found a charity and then use it to jip people,

00:06:14.000 Wouldn't you do at least a little bit of good work so that you can pretend that you're doing something useful, unless you're like Milo Yiannopoulos and you just take $100,000 in donations, stash it in your personal bank account and do nothing?

00:06:22.000 I mean, normally, people who are smart would presumably at least come up with a cover story.

00:06:27.000 That's what the Clintons did here.

00:06:28.000 When he says that the Clintons are going to separate off from the foundation, remember, they sort of pledged to do that in 2008 and then just didn't do it.

00:06:36.000 Ed Rendell is the former

00:06:39.000 The foundation has done incredible good things.

00:06:41.000 We lose focus on that.

00:06:43.000 If you ask the people of the world, do you want the Clinton Foundation shut down, they'd give you a resounding no, because of the good that it has done now.

00:07:00.000 Should there be a wall between the Clintons and any fundraising going forward?

00:07:04.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:07:05.000 Absolutely.

00:07:06.000 I would set up the strongest Chinese wall I could.

00:07:09.000 Could it be turned over to partners or people of Clinton's trust to run for the next four or eight years if the secretary becomes president?

00:07:17.000 Without any of our knowledge of who's contributing?

00:07:19.000 Yes, I think that can be done.

00:07:21.000 But we don't want to lose the good work of the Clinton Foundation.

00:07:23.000 Any more than we want to lose the good work that George W. Bush's foundation has done.

00:07:28.000 They've been two things that have created incredible goodwill for America and incredible good for the world.

00:07:34.000 Well, incredible goodwill from the State Department, Bill Clinton has now put out a statement.

00:07:37.000 Here's his new statement, quote, Now, whenever the Clintons use the word knowingly,

00:07:52.000 That's code for, yeah, we absolutely did it, and we're gonna get caught, so we're gonna pretend we didn't realize it was happening.

00:07:57.000 That's what knowingly means in Clinton-land.

00:07:59.000 In Clinton-land, you say knowingly, and what that means is, yeah, we totally knew, but we have to have plausible denial.

00:08:04.000 It was all an accident.

00:08:05.000 It was all an accident.

00:08:05.000 We had no clue whatsoever.

00:08:07.000 We just had no clue that any of this stuff was happening.

00:08:11.000 Yeah, they knew all this stuff was happening.

00:08:12.000 It's a corrupt system.

00:08:13.000 Donald Trump says, just shut down the foundation.

00:08:15.000 I mean, come on.

00:08:16.000 Good morning.

00:08:17.000 Good morning to you.

00:08:17.000 Let's talk about the Clinton Foundation.

00:08:20.000 Among the people saying it's problematic and shut it down is Huffington Post.

00:08:25.000 You also agree with that premise.

00:08:29.000 Well, number one, they should shut it down.

00:08:31.000 Number two, they should give the money back to a lot of countries that we shouldn't be taking and they shouldn't be taking money from.

00:08:37.000 Countries that influenced her totally.

00:08:40.000 And also, countries that discriminate against women and gays and everybody else.

00:08:45.000 I mean, that money should be given back.

00:08:48.000 They should not take that money.

00:08:49.000 Honestly, do you think that'll happen?

00:08:52.000 It should happen, whether or not it will.

00:08:54.000 They're very greedy people, so maybe it won't, but it should happen.

00:08:58.000 I see that your campaign just sent out a statement a few minutes ago regarding this, and you write, it is now clear the Clinton Foundation is the most corrupt enterprise in political history.

00:09:09.000 You know, there are a lot of people who are not up to speed on what the Clinton Foundation's been doing that you feel is illegal.

00:09:17.000 Well, I think it's been really well documented in the book, and the book has been absolutely approved by so many people.

00:09:25.000 You've had accounting firms going in there, you've had so many people going in, and it's pay for play.

00:09:31.000 I mean, if you look at it, it's pay for play.

00:09:34.000 So many things happen, money is paid, and then all of a sudden, lots of good things

00:09:40.000 And everything Trump is saying there is, of course, true.

00:09:48.000 The fact is it was pay for play.

00:09:49.000 The fact is that the Clintons are corrupt.

00:09:51.000 The fact is that they engage in this sort of corruption on a regular basis.

00:09:54.000 They do.

00:09:55.000 Hillary Clinton now is a little bit on the ropes because all of this stuff about the Clinton Foundation is now breaking.

00:10:02.000 And meanwhile, there's all sorts of headlines about whether she's healthy or not.

00:10:04.000 As I've said, I think it's a kind of waste of time to have that conversation because she's not going to hand over her complete medical records.

00:10:11.000 No one is going to vote for Trump because they think Hillary's unhealthy.

00:10:13.000 Like, name the voter who goes, oh, Hillary, she's unhealthy?

00:10:16.000 I guess I'm gonna vote for the other 70-year-old gas bag.

00:10:18.000 Like, that's not gonna happen.

00:10:20.000 All it really does is it underscores that she's dishonest, but we already know that she's dishonest.

00:10:24.000 Nonetheless, Hillary Clinton now has to, she has to get out of her coffin and creak her way up the stairs of her Transylvanian estate to make her way to national television so that she can pretend to be human for a few minutes because she understands that she's under attack.

00:10:38.000 So she goes, of course, to the friendly face

00:10:40.000 of Jimmy Kimmel over on ABC.

00:10:42.000 And she won't do a press conference, of course.

00:10:45.000 That would involve answering questions.

00:10:46.000 But she will hang out with Jimmy Kimmel on late night television, because that's what our elections have become.

00:10:52.000 So here's Hillary Clinton wearing what appears to be a stoplight, talking with Jimmy Kimmel.

00:10:59.000 Speaking of rumors that have gotten started, the new one is that you're unhealthy, that you had a concussion, that Rudy Giuliani was on Fox News yesterday and today, and he's saying you seem to be sick, you look tired, etc, etc.

00:11:15.000 Are you in good health?

00:11:17.000 Well, this has become one of their themes.

00:11:20.000 Here, you take my pulse while I'm talking to you.

00:11:24.000 OK.

00:11:24.000 So make sure I'm alive.

00:11:27.000 Oh my god, there's nothing there.

00:11:28.000 There's nothing there.

00:11:29.000 What can I say?

00:11:31.000 Back in October, the National Enquirer said I would be dead in six months.

00:11:35.000 Oh, wow.

00:11:36.000 So with every breath I take, I feel like it's a new creation.

00:11:40.000 You have a new lease on life.

00:11:41.000 Yeah, a new lease on life.

00:11:43.000 I don't know why they are saying this.

00:11:46.000 On the one hand, it's part of the wacky strategy.

00:11:48.000 Uh-huh.

00:11:50.000 Just say all these crazy things, and maybe you can get some people to believe you.

00:11:54.000 On the other hand, it just absolutely makes no sense.

00:11:57.000 And I don't go around questioning Donald Trump's health.

00:12:01.000 I mean, as far as I can tell, he's as healthy as a horse.

00:12:04.000 Well, his doctor said he had the best health medical examination he's ever seen in a human being.

00:12:10.000 Yeah.

00:12:11.000 Yeah, I saw that.

00:12:12.000 Can you open this jar of pickles?

00:12:14.000 This has not been tampered with.

00:12:16.000 This is...

00:12:26.000 A couple things that are obviously prescripted, the pulse joke and the pickle joke.

00:12:30.000 Let me make a quick point here.

00:12:32.000 There is no way in hell she opened that jar of pickles.

00:12:34.000 Not a way in hell she opened that jar of pickles.

00:12:36.000 My wife is a 29-year-old healthy woman.

00:12:38.000 She married me to open jars of pickles, okay?

00:12:41.000 Those things are packed for nuclear war.

00:12:42.000 The idea that Hillary Clinton is opening a jar of pickles, I mean, maybe she did, but that's only because she has the robot hand from Empire Strikes Back, right?

00:12:51.000 She lost it in a lightsaber fight, and it was replaced by a bionic hand, and so she cranks it up to ten.

00:12:56.000 Okay, so what would have been more amusing, honestly, is if she'd actually just retracted her hand, brought out the can opener in its place, and carved a hole in the top of the lid.

00:13:05.000 But in any case, that's supposed to prove that Hillary Clinton is healthy.

00:13:09.000 Okay, sure, whatever.

00:13:11.000 By the way, the idea that she's never insulted Donald Trump's health, no, she's just called him crazy.

00:13:15.000 So she insulted his mental health.

00:13:18.000 There's more than one kind of health, and Hillary Clinton has engaged in all that.

00:13:21.000 The whole, I'm above everything, is kind of silly.

00:13:24.000 And of course, the late night hosts will do all this.

00:13:26.000 I don't remember them doing the same thing with McCain.

00:13:28.000 Do you?

00:13:28.000 Remember back in 2008, everybody was questioning John McCain's health.

00:13:31.000 I really don't remember the media having John McCain on to then have John McCain open jars of pickles to prove how healthy he was.

00:13:40.000 I don't remember that.

00:13:41.000 Hillary also tried to humanize herself about ISIS, and Jimmy Kimmel helped along because he's an ardent lefty.

00:13:48.000 And so Hillary continues pretending to be a human.

00:13:51.000 Beep beep boop!

00:13:52.000 Hillary plays the human.

00:13:53.000 Go.

00:13:53.000 Who would have guessed this audience would be so enthusiastic about the co-founder of ISIS?

00:14:02.000 That was one of the crazier things.

00:14:05.000 When you hear something like that, do you laugh, do you think it's funny, or do you get upset, or how does it hit you?

00:14:12.000 You know, it's really funny, Jimmy.

00:14:14.000 I don't get upset anymore because I'd be upset all the time, so I don't get upset.

00:14:20.000 I think it's crazy, but then I think

00:14:24.000 You know, this is like giving aid and comfort to the bad guys.

00:14:28.000 Do you think so?

00:14:28.000 Yes, I really do.

00:14:29.000 I think there's enough evidence now that, you know, when Trump talks the way he talks, it actually helps the terrorists because they make a case.

00:14:39.000 Stop this.

00:14:40.000 Okay, so I love this.

00:14:40.000 So he starts off with, you're not the co-founder of ISIS, right?

00:14:43.000 She goes, no, Donald Trump basically is.

00:14:44.000 Right?

00:14:44.000 I mean, that's what she's saying, right?

00:14:46.000 She's saying Donald Trump gives aid and comfort to the enemy.

00:14:48.000 Okay, that language is the direct legal language with regard to treason.

00:14:53.000 You get hanged for that.

00:14:54.000 So Hillary Clinton responds to it.

00:14:56.000 It's just crazy that he'd call me the co-founder of ISIS.

00:14:58.000 Let's hang that guy, right?

00:15:00.000 He's giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

00:15:01.000 First of all, there's very little evidence, in fact no evidence that I'm aware of, that ISIS is fundraising off of Hillary Clinton being the co-founder.

00:15:09.000 I mean, the only people who fundraise off of Hillary Clinton are Hillary Clinton.

00:15:12.000 That's ridiculous.

00:15:13.000 But, again, the media just kind of go along with anything Hillary Clinton has to say.

00:15:17.000 Finally, Hillary Clinton continues by saying that her emails are just boring.

00:15:20.000 Like, stop paying attention to my emails.

00:15:21.000 They're just so boring.

00:15:23.000 I mean, come on.

00:15:24.000 I'm an old woman already.

00:15:25.000 I'm bored with this.

00:15:27.000 I need to knit or something.

00:15:28.000 Here's Hillary.

00:15:29.000 The State Department, I actually added it up today, and the State Department said that they have to release 15,000 emails by the deadline is a couple of days before the debate.

00:15:40.000 Are you concerned about that?

00:15:41.000 No.

00:15:41.000 Because I would be terrified if my emails were released.

00:15:46.000 But, I mean, Jimmy, my emails are so boring.

00:15:50.000 Yeah.

00:15:50.000 I mean, I'm embarrassed about that.

00:15:52.000 They're so boring.

00:15:54.000 So we've already released, I don't know, 30,000 plus.

00:15:56.000 So what's a few more?

00:15:57.000 So at the end, you're not concerned that there's going to be something that Donald Trump is able to use against you, that the Republicans, that comes in at the last second.

00:16:05.000 But he makes up stuff to use against me.

00:16:07.000 So if he would stick with reality, I wouldn't have a worry in the world.

00:16:11.000 Have you ever sent him an email?

00:16:13.000 This is ridiculous.

00:16:14.000 Okay, she wouldn't have a worry in the world.

00:16:16.000 She's not worried about these emails coming out.

00:16:17.000 So why did she delete them?

00:16:19.000 Why didn't she just hand them over to the State Department?

00:16:21.000 Why did she basically take her server and then wipe it with a cloth?

00:16:25.000 Hillary Clinton's a congenital liar.

00:16:26.000 Of course she's gonna say this.

00:16:27.000 He's gonna say, are you worried about those emails?

00:16:29.000 And she's gonna sit there going, yeah, I'm really worried.

00:16:31.000 I'm really worried that people are gonna discover my love letters to Huma.

00:16:33.000 Like, what is she gonna say to that?

00:16:35.000 Of course she's gonna say.

00:16:36.000 I'm not concerned about what's in the emails.

00:16:38.000 She should be concerned about what's in the emails because in all likelihood it's not going to be anything, you know, juicy sexually.

00:16:45.000 It's going to be all of her emails with the Clinton Foundation showing that they were one in the same and the media will cover it up and pretend none of it matters.

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00:17:33.000 Okay, so, meanwhile, what's Donald Trump up to?

00:17:35.000 What's Donald Trump up to?

00:17:36.000 So Hillary Clinton is making a joke of herself.

00:17:38.000 She's the most corrupt woman, but she's boring corrupt, right?

00:17:41.000 She's not exciting corrupt, because it's the same corrupt story over and over and over.

00:17:45.000 As I've said before, part of the problem with campaigning against someone who's as corrupt as Hillary Clinton is, is that the corruption level never changes.

00:17:52.000 It always is what the corruption level is.

00:17:54.000 It's always the same.

00:17:55.000 It's super duper corrupt.

00:17:56.000 And so there'll be a new piece of news, and the new piece of news is, she's really, really corrupt.

00:18:01.000 Okay, so there's nothing new there.

00:18:02.000 Meanwhile, there's always more news with Donald Trump.

00:18:04.000 So Donald Trump's big deal right now is that he's in the midst of a pivot.

00:18:08.000 The pivot!

00:18:09.000 It's here!

00:18:10.000 We've been waiting for years now for Donald Trump to pivot and demonstrate that he's not, in fact, Donald Trump.

00:18:15.000 In fact, Donald Trump is Dwight D. Eisenhower with crazy hair and a weird glow.

00:18:19.000 So Donald Trump is now pivoting on immigration.

00:18:22.000 And he's now basically embracing Marco Rubio's plan, except bifurcated.

00:18:26.000 He's saying, shut the border and then we'll figure out what to do with the people here.

00:18:29.000 Which, by the way, was the same as Ted Cruz's plan and the one that Marco Rubio actually ended up presenting during the campaign.

00:18:35.000 And all these people who during the primaries were saying that you were cuck.

00:18:39.000 You're just the worst.

00:18:40.000 If you liked Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio because Trump was going to be so tough on immigration, Trump's now shifting his position and everybody in the Trump train is just going, well, they're partying hard in the dining car of the Trump train, so they're not paying attention.

00:18:53.000 Kellyanne Conway, who is the rational half of the new Trump team, the irrational half is Steve Bannon, who's just a marauding monster of crazy.

00:19:01.000 But Kellyanne Conway, she comes forward and she says,

00:19:05.000 Donald Trump's new plan is basically a coherent one.

00:19:08.000 Here's what it looks like.

00:19:09.000 The question is whether, is he still going to deport the 11 million illegal immigrants in this country?

00:19:15.000 So this is what he has said.

00:19:17.000 He has said, well, there's his speech last month at the convention, which everybody can pull and read, or what he said in the private meeting that somehow got reported, I think, and distorted by those who weren't in attendance.

00:19:27.000 I was there.

00:19:28.000 I think so.

00:19:44.000 That certainly is nowhere near.

00:19:46.000 But before, but that's all sort of generic Republican talk, like many Republicans have said.

00:19:50.000 Well, I don't know.

00:19:51.000 Maybe not that strict.

00:19:52.000 Maybe they don't mean it.

00:19:52.000 Maybe that's not strict.

00:19:53.000 Well, that's what people are wondering whether Trump means it too.

00:19:55.000 He means it.

00:19:55.000 Because, you know, in the primary season he came out and said he would favor a deportation force.

00:20:00.000 He was pretty explicit about that.

00:20:02.000 And so now the question is, is there doubt about that?

00:20:05.000 I think a deportation force is more the logistics.

00:20:08.000 In other words, how do you achieve the goal of making sure that we are fair to everyone?

00:20:13.000 I think too much of the conversation is always about what's fair to the illegal immigrants.

00:20:16.000 What about what's fair to the American workers?

00:20:18.000 So they are going to be deported?

00:20:20.000 The 11 million are going to be deported?

00:20:21.000 He has said, here's what he said about that.

00:20:23.000 He will enforce the law, which will take care of a lot of that.

00:20:26.000 He will deport those who have absolutely committed a crime, being convicted of a crime.

00:20:31.000 He will make sure that American jobs are protected.

00:20:34.000 He will absolutely build that wall.

00:20:37.000 And again, she's refusing to answer the question.

00:20:38.000 You're going to deport everybody.

00:20:39.000 Because you remember, Donald Trump said that he was going to have the Trump deportation force.

00:20:43.000 They were going to walk around with a giant T on their shirts, and they were going to walk around with butterfly nets, and they were going to drive down to the local Home Depot, round up Jose, and drive him to the border.

00:20:51.000 Well, that apparently is no longer the plan.

00:20:54.000 I just want to note one thing, okay?

00:20:55.000 Because we're going to play a piece of audio now that frustrates me and should frustrate other people who believe in actual things like facts.

00:21:02.000 Here's Bill O'Reilly, back in July, just a few weeks ago, not long ago, I'm old enough to remember it.

00:21:07.000 July 26, 2016.

00:21:10.000 Bill O'Reilly says that Donald Trump is a direct repudiation to Barack Obama.

00:21:14.000 Talking Points is in business to put forth the truth.

00:21:17.000 So here it is.

00:21:19.000 According to an average of polling by Real Clear Politics, 69% of Americans are unhappy with the direction of their country.

00:21:27.000 Just 23% are pleased with the present condition of the USA.

00:21:30.000 That is a direct repudiation of President Obama's point of view.

00:21:35.000 There he's saying Trump is a repudiation of Obama.

00:21:38.000 Last night, on Bill O'Reilly's program, Donald Trump is asked about his deportation plan.

00:21:45.000 And here is Donald Trump on Barack Obama and deportation.

00:21:48.000 They're known by law enforcement who they are.

00:21:50.000 We don't do anything.

00:21:51.000 They go around killing people and hurting people, and they're going to be out of this country so fast your head will spin.

00:21:58.000 We have existing laws that allow you to do that.

00:22:00.000 Okay, so...

00:22:25.000 So he was the repudiation, the living repudiation of Obama.

00:22:28.000 But now, Obama, he deported a lot of people.

00:22:30.000 And we're going to do it.

00:22:31.000 We're going to be humane.

00:22:32.000 And then O'Reilly actually goes on to ask him about the detention centers.

00:22:37.000 And Trump says, we won't have detention centers.

00:22:39.000 We're going to keep them in Trump Tower.

00:22:40.000 He doesn't explain what he's going to do with these people, but there won't be detention centers anymore.

00:22:44.000 So, quick note.

00:22:46.000 He can flip on his position.

00:22:47.000 He can evolve, as they like to say, evolve on his position, which is really just a fib about his position.

00:22:53.000 Or he can move to a new position, he can do any of these things.

00:22:55.000 And maybe it's politically beneficial for him to do so, because his immigration position is popular with a lot of the Republican primary base, but it's not popular in a general election, so he can stick and he can move.

00:23:05.000 Maybe that's a politically beneficial point.

00:23:08.000 Okay, I'm willing to accept that.

00:23:10.000 But I do want to make one quick point here, and that is that this is not his original position.

00:23:16.000 This is not what he was originally saying.

00:23:18.000 He has moved.

00:23:20.000 He has changed his mind.

00:23:21.000 This was not always what he was saying.

00:23:23.000 The reason I make this point is because there are people like Ann Coulter who are just ardent Trumpers.

00:23:27.000 I mean, Ann has a new book called In Trump We Trust, which basically says it all.

00:23:31.000 Not in God we trust.

00:23:32.000 In Trump we trust.

00:23:32.000 And I'm friends with Ann.

00:23:33.000 I like Ann.

00:23:34.000 But this is ridiculous stuff.

00:23:36.000 I mean, here's Ann Coulter saying, don't worry about it.

00:23:38.000 Don't worry.

00:23:38.000 Donald hasn't changed anything.

00:23:39.000 Nothing's changed.

00:23:40.000 Sure, he's praising Obama.

00:23:41.000 Sure, he's praising Bush.

00:23:42.000 I hated both of them on immigration.

00:23:43.000 But basically, he's saying the same thing he always was, because crazy towns.

00:23:48.000 Look, we know the direction he's going in.

00:23:50.000 We know there's going to be a wall.

00:23:51.000 What I used to hear for half the campaign was, oh, and he secretly told the New York Times there's not even going to be a wall.

00:23:57.000 I mean, of course there's give and take in Washington.

00:24:00.000 With Hillary, we are getting, as she has said and as Tim Kaine have said, totally open borders, complete amnesty, along with a member of my party or my ex-party.

00:24:12.000 Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House, they are both for granting amnesty to millions of illegals.

00:24:18.000 Hillary says she wants to more than quadruple the number of Muslim refugees she's bringing in.

00:24:23.000 The details of Trump's plans, we're getting a wall.

00:24:27.000 He's going to let ICE do its job.

00:24:30.000 How much he can do without the agreement of Congress, whether that's in Democrat hands or my old Republican Party's hands, you know, of course there's going to be some give and take in negotiation.

00:24:42.000 Stop it there.

00:24:42.000 So I just want to point something out.

00:24:45.000 She's now making a different argument, right?

00:24:46.000 The original argument was Trump is superior to Cruz and Rubio because he won't cave on immigration.

00:24:51.000 Her new argument is Hillary.

00:24:53.000 Her new argument is Hillary.

00:24:54.000 You know, we don't have to talk about Trump because Hillary.

00:24:56.000 Okay, that's a fine argument.

00:24:58.000 It's a fine, it's Dennis Prager's argument, right?

00:25:00.000 And I keep citing Dennis because Dennis is somebody who I really respect on a moral and intellectual level, and he holds this position.

00:25:05.000 So understand, when people say, vote Trump, back Trump to stop Hillary, I get it, I understand it.

00:25:10.000 I just want to make one point.

00:25:12.000 This is not what Donald Trump was saying.

00:25:14.000 So don't give me this crap about how Donald Trump was tough on immigration.

00:25:17.000 He was the toughest man on immigration.

00:25:18.000 Everybody was a globalist cuck if they didn't back Donald Trump on immigration, right?

00:25:22.000 I don't want to hear that crap anymore.

00:25:24.000 But here's the thing that's amazing.

00:25:25.000 I was speaking before the show with Andrew Klavan.

00:25:28.000 I was saying, the thing that's truly frustrating about this particular campaign is that you sort of feel like you're living in back to the future, except the timeline resets every couple of days and you're the only one who remembers how the timeline used to be.

00:25:42.000 Right, so you remember what it was like when Biff was the head of the hotel chain and had married Marty's mom, but then they go back and they change it and you're the only one who remembers that now.

00:25:51.000 Right, you're the only one who remembers that that was ever the case.

00:25:53.000 Everybody else thinks that Biff is just washing cars in the front yard.

00:25:56.000 Right, everybody else, and if you mention it to them, oh, you might, what?

00:26:00.000 That's not real, that never happened.

00:26:02.000 You must be crazy.

00:26:03.000 That's nuts.

00:26:04.000 You remember what it was like before George McFly was saved from being hit by the car by Marty.

00:26:10.000 You remember what the situation was like beforehand.

00:26:14.000 But now the timeline is reset.

00:26:15.000 Every couple of days in this campaign is like this.

00:26:17.000 Donald Trump changes his position.

00:26:19.000 And then it's not just that everybody goes, okay, he's a politician, he changes his position for political convenience, just like the rest of them.

00:26:25.000 No, that's impossible, because Donald Trump must be the most honest man who ever lived, according to his followers, and therefore, we now have to revise the past, too.

00:26:33.000 We just memory hole it, right?

00:26:34.000 We just rewrite the history, just like in 1984, we rewrite the history, and it never existed.

00:26:39.000 It never existed.

00:26:40.000 The Democrats do the same thing, right?

00:26:42.000 Hillary Clinton was always an advocate of same-sex marriage.

00:26:45.000 Never mind that she was ardently against same-sex marriage until precisely the moment it benefited her to become pro-same-sex marriage.

00:26:51.000 Never mind that Hillary Clinton was for TPP before she was against TPP.

00:26:55.000 Bottom line is that we now have to rewrite history on behalf of these candidates, so truth becomes secondary.

00:27:01.000 So if you get feeling discombobulated, and I have to admit, I'm feeling discombobulated by this election cycle.

00:27:07.000 The reason I'm feeling discombobulated is not because Donald Trump is such a ridiculous outlier, even though he is, or because Hillary Clinton is such a deeply corrupt, perverse human being, even though she is.

00:27:16.000 The reason I'm feeling discombobulated is because every two days somebody rewrites reality and tells me that if I remember the actual reality with tape, it's because I'm crazy enough to get Trump.

00:27:27.000 Okay, no, I just remember what it was like when George McFly was being a peeping Tom at Lorraine and got hit by the car.

00:27:35.000 I remember that, right?

00:27:37.000 It happened.

00:27:38.000 So this is, it's very irritating.

00:27:41.000 All the way through.

00:27:42.000 Again, you want to support Trump's transition, support his transition, call him Caitlyn Jenner, I don't care.

00:27:47.000 But the bottom line is that if you are going to at least speak honestly about this, acknowledge that he's making a change and then we can all move on with our lives.

00:27:54.000 Don't say that anybody who is a little upset that Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush were all hit for being too soft on immigration and now Donald Trump is basically mirroring their position.

00:28:06.000 If we say that was dishonest, just say, okay, fine, you know, there was a primary, that's politics.

00:28:10.000 It's kind of scuzzy, but that's the way that it goes.

00:28:12.000 Okay, so now I want to talk briefly about this piece that came out yesterday from Laura Ingraham's website.

00:28:18.000 Now, Laura Ingraham has been angry at me ever since I suggested that her worship for Donald Trump and her attempts to paint Donald Trump as the mythical conservative god-king were damaging the conservative movement.

00:28:28.000 Again,

00:28:30.000 I make a very strong distinction between people who acknowledge the problems with Trump but will vote for him anyway, the praguers of the world, and the people like Laura Ingraham who pretend that Donald Trump is this mythical conservative creature who is going to save the United States.

00:28:42.000 I also, by the way, have objections with my friend Hugh Hewitt doing this routine where he sort of pretends that Donald Trump is somebody he's not,

00:28:48.000 Well, what Hugh does, because Hugh is not comfortable with Trump, is he gives Trump advice on the radio.

00:28:53.000 He says things like, could you not be so crazy?

00:28:55.000 And Trump goes, absolutely.

00:28:57.000 And then Hugh comes back to me and says, well, Trump said he wouldn't be crazy.

00:29:00.000 And I'm like, well, yeah, I know he said that.

00:29:02.000 I just don't believe him.

00:29:05.000 In this case, Laura Ingraham is like an ardent Trumpster.

00:29:07.000 She's an ardent Trumpster.

00:29:09.000 There was an article yesterday at her website, Lifeset.com, and it's an interesting website.

00:29:15.000 I never do this routine where I won't link to websites except for Breitbart.com.

00:29:20.000 Lifesat.com is an interesting website that I disagree with frequently.

00:29:23.000 There's an article there from a guy named Edmund Kozak.

00:29:25.000 I don't know Edmund Kozak from Atom.

00:29:27.000 I've never heard of him before.

00:29:28.000 Honestly, I thought that he was played by Teddy Savalas.

00:29:32.000 That's Kojak, but I don't, but in any case, Edmund Kozak writes this piece in which he, in which he says that I am not a true conservative.

00:29:41.000 Why am I not a true conservative, you may ask?

00:29:44.000 Well, according to Edmund Kozak,

00:29:47.000 Quote, the Constitution worship of those like Ben Shapiro and Senator Ted Cruz reveals that the mainstream conservative position has largely forgotten the principle of imperfectibility.

00:29:57.000 So I worship the Constitution, that's why I'm a bad conservative.

00:29:59.000 Okay.

00:30:02.000 And he says that that's bad because I worship it, I don't recognize that there's imperfectibility to human nature.

00:30:08.000 This makes precisely negative 100% sense.

00:30:11.000 This is the stupidest thing ever.

00:30:13.000 The reason this is stupid is because the entire basis of the Constitution of the United States is the idea that man is not only not perfect, but cannot be perfected.

00:30:21.000 That's why you have interest balancing interest.

00:30:23.000 It's why you have the states balancing the federal government.

00:30:25.000 It's why you have a government of enumerated powers that's not supposed to blast through those enumerated powers into Trumpian

00:30:33.000 Executive overreach, right?

00:30:35.000 That's the whole idea of the Constitution is people are limited and bad, or at least they have the capacity for bad.

00:30:41.000 And that's why we have to have this limited government, right?

00:30:44.000 This is what Madison says in Federalist 51.

00:30:46.000 He says, if men were angels, one of my favorite quotes in all of American philosophy, if men were angels, no government would be necessary.

00:30:53.000 If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.

00:30:58.000 In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this.

00:31:03.000 You must first enable the government to control the governed and in the next place oblige it to control itself.

00:31:09.000 One of the most beautifully stated ideas of human nature and the nature of government ever written by James Madison in Federalist 51.

00:31:15.000 That was the background to the Constitution.

00:31:18.000 The background to the Constitution was people are capable of good, but they're also capable of great bad.

00:31:22.000 And if you allow them ultimate power, they will use that power to make other people servants.

00:31:27.000 That's why I like the Constitution.

00:31:29.000 But if I like the Constitution, I'm not conservative enough.

00:31:32.000 I'm not conservative enough.

00:31:33.000 How does he get to that point?

00:31:34.000 What's he really angry at?

00:31:36.000 He's angry because I was ripping the alt-right.

00:31:37.000 So I've talked about this at length on the show before.

00:31:40.000 The alt-right, we can sort of define it this way.

00:31:42.000 There's sort of the racist, anti-semitic portion of the alt-right, and then there's the broader alt-right philosophy that tends to cater to those people.

00:31:49.000 So the broader alt-right philosophy is sort of the papu-canon philosophy.

00:31:53.000 The papu-canon philosophy is that the Constitution doesn't mean a lot.

00:31:56.000 The only thing that means a lot is European civilization.

00:31:59.000 European civilization, which created America and created the West, that European civilization encompasses certain rights and values, and the only way to protect that European civilization is to see everyone else as an enemy.

00:32:12.000 People can't really assimilate to it.

00:32:14.000 It's impossible to take in populations that will learn about that European civilization.

00:32:17.000 Instead, what you need to do is close your borders and protect yourself.

00:32:20.000 That's sort of the alt-right philosophy, kind of European far-right nationalism.

00:32:24.000 It tends to merge with antisemitism because Jews are seen as sort of this middleman minority who come in and don't play by the rules.

00:32:31.000 It's anti-immigrant.

00:32:32.000 So if you're an immigrant from a foreign country that hasn't experienced the West, or even if you are from a country that's experienced the West but you might not be the right color according to some of these folks, then that means that you are incapable of assimilating to American philosophy and European philosophy.

00:32:46.000 So it's shot through with racism and antisemitism.

00:32:49.000 The kind of cultural superiority complex which is something with which I agree that Western civilization is superior for the alt-right because it's not tied to the idea that these principles can be extended to other people and that people can integrate themselves into them and instead we must protect our philosophy from other people who would enter in

00:33:07.000 Because of that, it tends to veer toward racism and anti-Semitism, unfortunately, and that's what the alt-right has become, and this is why the alt-right people, they like Trump, because Trump is not really—he doesn't care about the Constitution, he doesn't know anything about Western civilization, but he's anti-trade and he's anti-immigration, and that they agree with.

00:33:23.000 So the alt-right has latched onto Trump, and then every time they have a chance, they tweet at me memes of black babies in gas chambers.

00:33:31.000 And it's really gross and nasty.

00:33:33.000 And the reason this has become an issue is because Steve Bannon of Breitbart.com is now the chairman of Trump's campaign, and Breitbart has openly embraced the alt-right.

00:33:42.000 Bannon himself called Breitbart.com the new home of the alt-right, and he said, not all alt-right people are racist and anti-Semitic, they're a small minority, but, you know, if they're there, they're there, basically.

00:33:53.000 And that's pretty egregious stuff in my view.

00:33:56.000 It's what I've been warning about for months.

00:33:57.000 The replacement of a constitutional conservative philosophy of limited government with the idea that a big vast government is capable of protecting Western civilization.

00:34:06.000 See, the alt-right doesn't even believe in limited government.

00:34:08.000 The alt-right believes that a European people, this is where you get into the racism aspect, a European people

00:34:14.000 Nationalist European people, they can vote for big government, and that big government is still capable of carrying forward the nationalist mission.

00:34:22.000 Constitutional conservatism says there's no such thing as perfect people.

00:34:26.000 There's no European people that's perfect or wonderful.

00:34:28.000 The Europeans have brought a hell of a lot of suffering to the world, as well as great civilization.

00:34:33.000 People are capable of great good and great evil.

00:34:35.000 It's their ideas that matter, not who they are.

00:34:37.000 The ideas that matter.

00:34:38.000 It's the creed that matters.

00:34:40.000 So what did I do wrong?

00:34:42.000 What I wrote was, That sounds pretty...

00:34:59.000 Pretty straight down the line to me.

00:35:00.000 I mean, that's the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, and the founding philosophy of Jefferson and Adams and Madison, and all of the pre-founding philosophers, like, it's a combination of Hobbes and Locke.

00:35:13.000 All of this is true.

00:35:14.000 But according to Laura Ingraham's website, that description of conservatism, again, limited government, God-given rights, personal responsibility, which seems pretty straightforward to me.

00:35:22.000 That's hysterical.

00:35:24.000 Really, that's hysterical.

00:35:26.000 First, in order to declare that hysterical, I have to be declared an establishment GOP elite.

00:35:30.000 This is the slur that alt-right people use for anyone who disagrees with their closed borders, closed trade nonsense.

00:35:37.000 Now, to be fair, to be straight, I've been in favor of a border wall before Trump.

00:35:42.000 I'll be in favor of a border wall after he reneges on it.

00:35:45.000 I've been in favor of a more limited immigration policy for a long time, particularly for people who are coming from countries that have no history with Western civilization.

00:35:53.000 Not because people are incapable of integrating, but because there's been no push to integrate in the United States, thanks to the left.

00:36:00.000 But in order to kind of other, to turn people into the other, to turn normal conservatives into the enemy, they have to pretend that we're open borders globalist cucks, right?

00:36:09.000 This is the way that they talk about people like me.

00:36:11.000 I'm open borders even though I'm not.

00:36:13.000 I'm a globalist even though I'm not.

00:36:16.000 But in any case, what he says is my definition of conservatism is wrong.

00:36:19.000 He says, in his criticisms against the French Revolution, Anglo-Irish statesman Edmund Burke, Russell Kirk, Russell Kirk is a conservative philosopher, Russell Kirk's biggest influence and the recognized godfather of conservatism attacked the abstract nature of the revolutionaries' rights of man.

00:36:35.000 Burke argued men are not born with inherent abstract rights to which they are entitled.

00:36:39.000 Instead, he highlighted the ancient inherited rights and liberties of the English people, the result of a specific set of historical circumstances and political and social developments unique to the English nation.

00:36:48.000 That's a fancy way of saying, basically, that I'm getting my concept of natural rights wrong.

00:36:53.000 When I say that we have to be based on limited government and God-given rights and personal responsibility,

00:36:59.000 What I'm saying is the rights to life, liberty, and property espoused by John Locke.

00:37:03.000 He's saying that Edmund Burke, who's a more conservative philosopher, he thinks, Edmund Burke wouldn't have liked that because human rights that are undefined, natural rights, they're undefined and they can be used any which way.

00:37:14.000 There's only one problem with that.

00:37:15.000 That's not what Burke says.

00:37:17.000 That's not what Burke says.

00:37:18.000 What Burke says is that our understanding of what our rights are springs from Western civilization, which of course isn't, that's of course true.

00:37:25.000 And Burke called the same rights that Locke did natural rights.

00:37:28.000 Burke himself wrote,

00:37:42.000 Right?

00:37:42.000 I and all other constitutional conservatives believe that God-given rights mean what Burke said they meant.

00:37:48.000 Right?

00:37:48.000 Rights that are inherently connected to a uniquely Western civilization rooted in Judeo-Christian philosophy, but that is discoverable by all peoples.

00:37:56.000 Meaning that our concept of rights comes from Western civilization, and that comes out of a Judeo-Christian notion.

00:38:01.000 But that Judeo-Christian notion is true.

00:38:04.000 And it's true for all people.

00:38:05.000 And all people do have those rights.

00:38:06.000 In other words, the Judeo-Christian civilization is right, and other civilizations are wrong.

00:38:12.000 That's what conservatism says.

00:38:13.000 He says, however, that basically because Judeo-Christian civilization discovered these rights, they're only applicable to Judeo-Christian civilization.

00:38:20.000 And that, of course, is wrong.

00:38:22.000 That, of course, is wrong.

00:38:23.000 So all this is basically a fancy way of just offending, supporting Donald Trump.

00:38:27.000 It is sort of ironic.

00:38:29.000 That Kozak then goes on to blame the conservative movement for supporting nation building and mass migration.

00:38:35.000 And he says the Constitution alone cannot guarantee a political utopia.

00:38:39.000 Of course that's true.

00:38:40.000 He says that we've abandoned pretense of defending an existing moral order or social traditions.

00:38:45.000 I just want to make a quick point.

00:38:46.000 Donald Trump is a thrice-married serial adulterer who brags about having sex with other men's wives, backs Planned Parenthood, backed partial-birth abortion until five minutes ago.

00:38:56.000 Donald Trump believed in open borders until he decided to swivel on that in the last year and a half.

00:39:02.000 Donald Trump has embraced a corporatist globalism himself.

00:39:07.000 He believes in this corrupt relationship between government and business.

00:39:11.000 So all of this is to say that the alt-right is doing a clever job of perverting conservatism, but it doesn't... and that's what frightens me about the alt-right, and you can see that their disdain for the Constitution is part and parcel of the program, because after all, all you people who believe in the Constitution, while you worry about the Constitution, we're being swept over with waves of immigration.

00:39:31.000 This is how the alt-right talks.

00:39:33.000 And they forget to mention that the Constitution itself allows us the possibility of taking harsher measures on the border.

00:39:40.000 But in fact, if we'd stuck to the Constitution in the first place, we wouldn't have the welfare state that's leading to this mass migration across our borders in favor of government benefits.

00:39:48.000 All right.

00:39:49.000 So, that's that.

00:39:50.000 Let's move on to some things that I like and some things that I hate, and then deconstructing the culture.

00:39:56.000 So, things I like.

00:39:57.000 We're doing sort of Israel-related things today that I like.

00:40:00.000 The book Exodus by Leon Uris.

00:40:02.000 This is a really terrific book.

00:40:03.000 Leon Uris is a really, really good author.

00:40:05.000 My favorite book of his is a book called Mila 18, which is a book about the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

00:40:11.000 It's really good.

00:40:12.000 This book is also very famous.

00:40:13.000 They made a not very good movie of it with Paul Newman.

00:40:16.000 It's kind of—Leon Uris is a really good writer, and this book is sort of the history of the founding of Israel, and it's a really good book.

00:40:25.000 Yeah, justly famous book.

00:40:27.000 I mean, over a million copies have been sold, so it's a pretty great book.

00:40:31.000 Okay, other things that I like.

00:40:34.000 I have to admit, the Cincinnati Zoo has now shut down its Twitter account.

00:40:38.000 It shut down its Twitter account because people kept tweeting Harambee memes at it.

00:40:42.000 I have to admit, I find these things absolutely hysterical.

00:40:44.000 I think they're the funniest thing that ever was.

00:40:46.000 So, let's give an example.

00:40:47.000 The Cincinnati Zoo put this up, right?

00:40:50.000 It says, the yellow pond turtle has eight vertebrae, one more than mammals have.

00:40:54.000 And people started tweeting things back like,

00:40:57.000 Harambe had eight hearts.

00:40:59.000 And Harambe had seven vertebrae, just like a human.

00:41:01.000 What you did was similar to killing a human.

00:41:03.000 The Cincinnati Zoo has zero Harambe.

00:41:06.000 Harambe was a mammal.

00:41:08.000 Every single tweet of the Cincinnati Zoo is like this.

00:41:10.000 I'll show another one.

00:41:11.000 It's pretty amazing.

00:41:12.000 It's often called Water Pig for its aquatic habits.

00:41:15.000 The capybara is actually a rodent.

00:41:18.000 The largest rodent in the world.

00:41:20.000 And people start tweeting back at the Cincinnati Zoo.

00:41:23.000 Harambe loved aquatic habits.

00:41:25.000 Harambe loved the world.

00:41:27.000 Harambe had rodent friends.

00:41:28.000 Too bad Harambe isn't here to enjoy them.

00:41:32.000 I have to admit, I find this darkly hilarious.

00:41:34.000 I think it's really, really, really funny.

00:41:36.000 Do you have any more of these?

00:41:37.000 I think we have one.

00:41:39.000 Is that it?

00:41:39.000 Okay, so that's all we've got of the Harambe memes, but people are saying, stop bothering the Cincinnati Zoo.

00:41:45.000 Yeah, it's bad to bother the Cincinnati Zoo.

00:41:48.000 It's also hi-larious.

00:41:50.000 It's just really funny.

00:41:51.000 Okay.

00:41:51.000 Things I hate.

00:41:52.000 Let's do it.

00:41:56.000 So many things I hate today.

00:41:58.000 Yay!

00:41:58.000 Lots of hatred in my heart today.

00:42:00.000 Okay, so we'll begin with John Oliver of HBO, another one of these British types who thinks that he is brilliant because he has a British accent, and he says that Donald Trump should drop out of the race.

00:42:12.000 Mr. Trump, Donnie.

00:42:15.000 Daniel, I would like to propose to you a third option, and that is drop out.

00:42:21.000 Simply drop out and tell America this entire candidacy was a stunt.

00:42:26.000 You have two really bad options here.

00:42:28.000 If you keep going, you're going to spend the next 11 weeks

00:42:31.000 Ramping up hatred in speeches, injecting poison into the American bloodstream that will take generations to remove, and denying the country the contest of ideas that a presidential campaign should actually be.

00:42:40.000 And after that, you're either going to win, or you're going to lose.

00:42:44.000 And I think both those scenarios end pretty badly for you.

00:42:48.000 It would be humiliating to lose to a candidate whose trustworthiness is doubted by 60% of registered voters.

00:42:55.000 That's nearly two-thirds, perhaps most powerfully of all, Mr. Trump.

00:42:59.000 Don, Donathan.

00:43:01.000 Okay, so here's my problem with this.

00:43:23.000 The problem with this is that John Oliver completely ignores that on the other side of the aisle is the most corrupt woman ever to run for high office.

00:43:28.000 And this is what the left always does.

00:43:30.000 You wonder why the right reacts with skepticism when the left says things about Donald Trump?

00:43:34.000 It's because of crap like this.

00:43:35.000 Because John Oliver goes... Why doesn't he ask Hillary to drop out?

00:43:39.000 Hillary Clinton was almost indicted by the FBI like a month and a half ago.

00:43:42.000 I haven't heard John Oliver saying, you know, Hillary Clinton is running on a platform of corruption.

00:43:47.000 Hillary Clinton is running on a platform of cronyism.

00:43:49.000 Why doesn't she drop out?

00:43:50.000 Of course he's never going to say that because he likes Hillary Clinton.

00:43:53.000 That sort of hypocrisy really does bother me.

00:43:56.000 Other things that I hate.

00:43:58.000 One of the things that I really dislike about the Trump candidacy is that it's made liars of everybody.

00:44:03.000 So everybody, in order to defend Trump, they now have to take positions, again, they have to go back and rewrite the Marty McFly history and pretend that it never happened.

00:44:11.000 So, Kellyanne Conway, who seems like a nice enough gal, she's on with Megyn Kelly, and Kellyanne Conway had said months ago, when she was a Cruz supporter, she doesn't like Donald Trump's name-calling, watch her try to rewrite her own history and then pretend that everyone's crazy for noticing.

00:44:25.000 You came out and said, I don't like the personal insults.

00:44:27.000 I don't like somebody who hurls personal insults.

00:44:29.000 And then you came out and said, Donald Trump doesn't do that.

00:44:32.000 Now you know that's not true.

00:44:33.000 Well, what I was saying in the context of he doesn't do it without being attacked first.

00:44:37.000 I mean, people forget that this man is attacked.

00:44:39.000 But does that excuse it?

00:44:41.000 I mean, just today he called Mika Brzezinski neurotic, which is another term for basically mentally ill.

00:44:46.000 He's called all their female news personalities things like crazy.

00:44:50.000 The man does hurl personal insults, Kellyanne.

00:44:53.000 But not unprompted.

00:44:54.000 Meaning, I don't like personal insults.

00:44:55.000 Let me make very clear.

00:44:56.000 I don't like them only because I'm a mother of four young children.

00:44:59.000 I'd be a hypocrite if I liked them.

00:45:01.000 And I actually think he can win on the issues on the substance.

00:45:03.000 Our best game against Hillary Clinton is to take her on four square.

00:45:07.000 About her record.

00:45:08.000 How is that working so far?

00:45:09.000 Because that stuff about Mika was today.

00:45:12.000 So he felt like he was being attacked and we have interns monitoring the programs and he felt like it was a he was told.

00:45:20.000 What does he care?

00:45:21.000 With all due respect to my friends over at MSNBC that show has like

00:45:26.000 Two viewers.

00:45:27.000 Why does he let himself get worked up over what... so she doesn't like him?

00:45:31.000 Too bad!

00:45:32.000 Who cares?

00:45:32.000 Look, I'll tell you this, Megan.

00:45:34.000 If it's up to me, he's in a tennis match with Hillary Clinton.

00:45:37.000 He's lobbying and shooting aces at her all day long.

00:45:41.000 We don't pick a fight with the ref.

00:45:42.000 We don't boo the crowd.

00:45:43.000 Because we're absolutely back in Hillary Clinton's head.

00:45:46.000 Okay, so this is my big problem, and it's a thing I hate, is that she could—you can see she's so trapped here, right?

00:45:53.000 Because the fact is that when did Rafael Cruz deserve to be linked to JFK's murder?

00:45:59.000 When did that happen exactly?

00:46:01.000 When did Heidi Cruz deserve to be called ugly by Donald Trump?

00:46:04.000 And of course, Kellyanne Conway condemned all that at the time, but now she's out there saying, oh, he only responds, which is the typical Trump line, which is, of course, a lie.

00:46:11.000 Again, it puts everybody in such an awkward position.

00:46:13.000 This should be the easiest election ever.

00:46:15.000 Hillary is corrupt.

00:46:15.000 Hillary is awful.

00:46:16.000 She's robotic.

00:46:17.000 She's unfunny.

00:46:18.000 She's egregiously nasty.

00:46:20.000 And yet, people are being forced to lie for Donald Trump in order to up his positives.

00:46:27.000 Okay, time for—it's Tuesday, so time for an episode of Deconstructing the Culture, because we're past the clock and time has no meaning.

00:46:34.000 Ariana Grande.

00:46:35.000 She has a new song out called Dangerous Woman.

00:46:39.000 Ariana Grande, we call her the Great Donut Licker of Lake Elsinore because a few months back, if you recall, she went into a coffee shop with donuts and she started licking the donuts and, like, leaving them on the counter, which is a weird thing to do.

00:46:50.000 She's a weirdo.

00:46:52.000 So Ariana Grande, she has a new music video out called Dangerous Woman, and we will play a little bit of it now.

00:47:05.000 Can you pause it for one second?

00:47:06.000 We haven't gone anywhere.

00:47:07.000 So first of all, every single music video in the top 40 has a girl looking like she's ready to strip.

00:47:13.000 They're all wearing lingerie.

00:47:15.000 When's the last time you saw a music video in the top 40 that wasn't a woman wearing lingerie?

00:47:19.000 It's been a long time.

00:47:21.000 Second of all, one of the problems I have with Ariana Grande as a personality is that, and this is not meant offensively to Ariana Grande, objectively speaking, Ariana Grande looks like she's about 14 years old.

00:47:30.000 I mean, she looks very, very young.

00:47:31.000 I know she's 23, but she looks like she's about 14 years old.

00:47:35.000 And her typical audience is about 14, 15 years old.

00:47:39.000 And that's, yeah, this kind of stuff tailored for men is kind of distasteful.

00:47:50.000 Don't need permission.

00:47:52.000 Made my decision to test my limits.

00:47:55.000 Cause it's my business.

00:47:57.000 God as my witness.

00:48:01.000 First of all, the song's terrible, but...

00:48:28.000 We're good to go.

00:48:45.000 Okay, so we don't have to play the whole thing.

00:48:46.000 This is... Okay, so the whole premise of this... First of all, the entire music video, for people who can't see, is her just writhing around on a bed, basically.

00:48:53.000 I mean, it's just her writhing around on a bed in various states of undress, and singing about how she wants to have sex.

00:48:58.000 That's the entire song.

00:48:59.000 And there's a line in here that really does trouble me.

00:49:03.000 Later, she says,

00:49:15.000 Okay, so first of all, bad grammar.

00:49:17.000 But second of all, when she says all girls want to be like that, that all girls are bad girls underneath, this puts forward a negative image to men.

00:49:27.000 It does.

00:49:28.000 It's saying to young men that all girls in the end want to be risky with regard to their sex lives.

00:49:34.000 Right?

00:49:34.000 That's what she's saying.

00:49:35.000 She's saying all girls want to be dangerous, all girls want to be risky with their sex lives, and then

00:49:40.000 People on the feminist left who defend this as some sort of feminist iconic feminist image, right?

00:49:46.000 First of all, if women acted like this every day in real life, men would have no problem with radical feminism.

00:49:51.000 If this is what radical feminism always looked like, I have a feeling that all of the radical men's rights guys would be very, very happy, okay?

00:50:00.000 But beyond that, this portrayal of women as sort of deeply sexualized all the time, all they really want is to be dangerous underneath,

00:50:08.000 And saying openly that all girls want to be like that, it encourages men to treat women as though they are prepared to be risky in their sex lives.

00:50:17.000 And that's no excuse for men to be terrible.

00:50:19.000 But if you put out into the ether these vague images of all women, all women want to be risky in their sex lives, that doesn't have a good impact.

00:50:28.000 Okay?

00:50:29.000 It doesn't mean it's justified.

00:50:30.000 It just means that things have impact.

00:50:31.000 If I say that all women are promiscuous, that's going to have an impact on how men act toward women.

00:50:37.000 Which is why I don't say, because women aren't promiscuous.

00:50:40.000 Some women are, some women aren't.

00:50:42.000 But this kind of notion that all women are risk takers is a trope that really is not something that's good to put out to young men.

00:50:50.000 It's amazing, the same people who will decry the rape culture on college campuses will put stuff out like this and say that it's not bad for women in any way.

00:50:58.000 Okay, really?

00:50:58.000 It's not bad for women in any way?

00:51:00.000 You complain about objectification of women and then these are the women that you prop up as your feminist heroes?

00:51:04.000 People like Ariana Grande and Beyonce Knowles?

00:51:06.000 Really?

00:51:07.000 Okay, that's one message here I want to talk about.

00:51:08.000 The second is the notion of romance.

00:51:10.000 So, romance now, there's no such thing as romance anymore.

00:51:13.000 Romance is just sex.

00:51:15.000 That's all it is.

00:51:15.000 It's just sex.

00:51:17.000 In these music videos.

00:51:18.000 I want to play for you an actually romantic song back from a time when people actually cared about romance, cared about love, cared about emotion in relationships, and not just the feeling of skin to skin.

00:51:28.000 Because honestly, it's just a mechanical act if there's no emotional connection.

00:51:32.000 You know, this notion that sex is transgressive and taboo?

00:51:36.000 It is, of course, depending on the circumstance, but that's not the essence of a normal, healthy sex life.

00:51:42.000 If all you're looking for in your sex life, if all you're looking for in intimacy is violation of taboo, you're going to end up in some pretty dark places pretty quickly, which is how we end up with the Fifty Shades of Grey culture.

00:51:52.000 True romance requires there to actually be sympathical between the participants in the sex.

00:51:58.000 Here's another song invoking skin.

00:52:00.000 This is one of my favorite songs of all time.

00:52:02.000 It's Under My Skin with this classic Frank Sinatra, 1956 Nelson Riddle arrangement.

00:52:06.000 This is my song from my wife.

00:52:08.000 We have a couple of different songs.

00:52:09.000 This one, I think I've played for you, John Denver's You Fill Up My Senses before.

00:52:13.000 But this is a classic of swing genre.

00:52:16.000 So here's Frank Sinatra.

00:52:18.000 This is I've Got You Under My Skin.

00:52:23.000 I mean, come on, gang.

00:52:25.000 Is there any comparison?

00:52:27.000 Just musically?

00:52:28.000 Come on!

00:52:31.000 I've got you under my skin.

00:52:39.000 I've got you deep in the heart of me.

00:52:46.000 So deep in my heart that you're really a part of me.

00:52:54.000 I've got you under my skin.

00:53:00.000 Oh, that's great.

00:53:00.000 Okay, so the point of this lyric, there's still something transgressive about this song, right?

00:53:05.000 This song is written by Cole, the lyrics are by Cole Porter.

00:53:09.000 The transgressive part is he goes on and he says, I'd sacrifice anything, come what might, for the sake of having you near, in spite of a warning voice that comes in the night and repeats, repeats in my ear, Don't you know, little fool, you never can win?

00:53:21.000 Come on.

00:53:22.000 Use your mentality.

00:53:23.000 Wake up to reality.

00:53:25.000 But each time that I do, just the thought of you makes me stop before I begin, because I've got you under my skin.

00:53:29.000 The idea here is not, God, your boobs.

00:53:32.000 Right?

00:53:32.000 That's not the idea.

00:53:33.000 What a nice butt you've got.

00:53:34.000 Right?

00:53:35.000 I mean, it's not skin to skin.

00:53:36.000 We can feel each other.

00:53:37.000 Right?

00:53:37.000 That's not the idea here.

00:53:38.000 The idea here is that there is a spiritual drive.

00:53:41.000 There's an emotional drive between man and woman.

00:53:44.000 And sex is the natural culmination of that.

00:53:47.000 And

00:53:48.000 That doesn't necessarily mean that every relationship is a good idea, but without that drive, without the emotional connection, without the spiritual connection between man and woman, everything just degrades to the level of a woman making love to a camera sitting on a bed wearing lingerie.

00:54:02.000 It just turns into softcore pornography.

00:54:04.000 That's all it does.

00:54:05.000 The difference between romance and softcore pornography is the emotional connection and the spiritual connection between two people that leads to the act of sex.

00:54:13.000 When you strip all of the emotion away, and when you say that true liberation lies in treating sex just like any other bodily function, you end up with sort of the degraded stupidity of an Ariana Grande video as opposed to the sexy romance of Frank Sinatra's music.

00:54:28.000 All right.

00:54:28.000 Tomorrow is Wednesday.

00:54:30.000 There will be more politics to report, I am sure.

00:54:33.000 Plus, we do our biblical analysis on Wednesdays.

00:54:36.000 So if you're into that Bible thing, then stop by.

00:54:39.000 Even if you're not, then just stick around until the end and then skip the Bible stuff.

00:54:42.000 And that's all right.

00:54:43.000 We'll still deal with you.

00:54:44.000 I mean, maybe you go to hell.

00:54:46.000 I don't know.

00:54:46.000 But that's not my responsibility in any case.

00:54:49.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:54:49.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

Ep. 170 - Hillary Clinton Opens a Pickle Jar, and Other Miracles!

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