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Ep. 172 - Hillary Pulls The KKK Card


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Today, Hillary Clinton is slated to slam the Trump campaign s association with the ex-global alt-right. She s released a brutal ad preparing the groundwork, and we ll show you that ad a little bit later. As one of the leading antagonists of the alt right, there s some accuracy to the ad. But we do have to ask, what s driving Hillary to even raise the profile of the Alt-right by attacking in a full speech, which she s supposed to do in a couple hours or so? And we ll begin with my good friend Adam Carolla, who stopped by on the Ben Shapiro Show yesterday to talk about a new movie that s coming out, and about what it s like to be a conservative in Hollywood. I m Ben Shapiro, and I don t think you re going to want to miss this! Ben Shapiro is a writer, comedian, and podcaster. His work has appeared on Comedy Central, HBO, and many other media outlets. He is a regular contributor to the New York Times, The Huffington Post, and has been featured in the Hollywood Reporter, The Weekly Standard, and The Hollywood Reporter. He s a friend of mine and I think you should know who he is. He's one of my favorite human beings, and he's a very funny guy. He also writes a book, too, which you should check out on Amazon, which is a must-listen guy. He also has an excellent book, which I recommend you read, if you re looking for a good one. You can find him on Insta: if you don t miss it: . He's also on Instapaper, on the pod is great, too is on Instafeed, and he also does a good thing, too and so much more, too should you do it on Instacare, and you should listen to it on the or you should go listen to Instapare, too do it in the Insta-seriously, or else you should do it is a great thing, he does it on his podcast, too say it's great, he also is excellent, too of it's good, really should be good, and all of it is good, he's great at it's really good, you should be recommended it s good, right up on it's also good, good of it s really good and he s great, really good at it all of that s good stuff, really really good etc.


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00:00:00.000 Today, Hillary Clinton is slated to slam the Trump campaign's association with the ex-global alt-right.
00:00:06.000 She's released a brutal ad preparing the groundwork.
00:00:08.000 And we'll show you that ad a little bit later.
00:00:10.000 As one of the leading antagonists of the alt-right, there's some accuracy to the ad.
00:00:14.000 She's right that Trump has winked at the alt-right, particularly in that awful Jake Tapper interview on CNN.
00:00:19.000 She's also right that the new Trump campaign CEO, Steve Bannon,
00:00:22.000 I don't think so.
00:00:38.000 The ad also implies the alt-right is conservative, which is also untrue.
00:00:41.000 Just ask anybody on the alt-right.
00:00:43.000 But we do have to ask, what's driving Hillary to even raise the profile of the alt-right by attacking in a full speech, which she's supposed to do in a couple hours or so?
00:00:51.000 Sure, it's typical Democratic politicking.
00:00:53.000 After all, Joe Biden once said that Mitt Romney, the mildest man in the world, wanted to put black Americans back in chains.
00:00:59.000 But it's a weird choice in an election that Hillary, by the polls, is winning handily.
00:01:03.000 Unless, of course, it's a preliminary move toward what the alt-right likes to call no-platforming Trump.
00:01:09.000 Hillary has been studiously avoiding a press conference for nearly a year now.
00:01:12.000 She won't answer difficult questions, she's still leading by big margins in the key swing states, and everybody knows the only possible event that could change that math would be a series of really bad debates against Donald Trump.
00:01:23.000 What if all of this is a precursor to her declaring she simply will not debate anyone associated with the alt-right?
00:01:30.000 That it would be inappropriate to take seriously a guy whose campaign CEO has green-lit pieces praising the alt-right?
00:01:35.000 The media would probably side with her.
00:01:37.000 I mean, they always do, after whining about it for a little bit.
00:01:39.000 Trump would fulminate that Hillary's afraid of him, and he'd be right.
00:01:42.000 But he'd also look like a sore loser, a guy trailing and desperate.
00:01:45.000 He'd become Ted Cruz in the last part of the primary campaign.
00:01:48.000 You remember Ted Cruz in the last part of the primary campaign?
00:01:50.000 He was trailing around Trump saying he won't debate me because he's afraid and he looked desperate?
00:01:54.000 Well, that would be Trump now, furiously attempting to pin down Hillary so that he can fight her.
00:01:58.000 And she'd give him the high hat.
00:02:00.000 Well, perhaps that's not the agenda at all.
00:02:02.000 Maybe this is all just a cynical play by Hillary to link conservatives with the alt-right, crippling them down the road.
00:02:07.000 But it's not implausible to think we may be watching the groundwork for an election gambit that actually could seriously finish Donald Trump's chances at the presidency.
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00:03:43.000 Well, today we have so much to get to.
00:03:46.000 So much to get to here on the Ben Shapiro Show, but we'll begin
00:03:50.000 With my good friend Adam Carolla.
00:03:51.000 So Adam Carolla stopped by yesterday.
00:03:53.000 We had a chance to talk to him about he's got a new movie that's coming out.
00:03:56.000 It's a documentary about Paul Newman.
00:03:58.000 We talked to him about that and about some of his other films and about what it's like to be a conservative in Hollywood because he really is in Hollywood.
00:04:04.000 Here's the interview that we did with Adam Carolla.
00:04:06.000 Now joining us here on the Ben Shapiro Show is one of my favorite human beings and the funniest person that I've ever had the pleasure of sitting in a room with, Adam Carolla.
00:04:14.000 Adam, of course, is the host of the world-famous Adam Carolla Show.
00:04:17.000 The pirate ship is available at adamcarolla.com.
00:04:19.000 Adam, thanks so much for joining the show.
00:04:22.000 Thanks Ben, appreciate it.
00:04:41.000 And I sort of wanted to ask you about how that's been received.
00:04:44.000 Obviously, you are mostly seen as a guy in comedy, but has your audience received the fact that you're obviously more on sort of the conservative side of the aisle when it comes to personal responsibility?
00:04:57.000 Well, it's weird because I've been preaching personal responsibility since I began Loveline in 1996 when you were a zygote.
00:05:12.000 I'm an atheist who comes from the real world, and I grew up just real, not even blue-collar, sort of beneath blue-collar, and I just went to work.
00:05:25.000 I wasn't educated, I didn't
00:05:27.000 We're good.
00:05:44.000 And then eventually I got the love line, and I just sort of said, hey, if you can't afford kids, don't have kids.
00:05:52.000 Because the government's not going to do a very good job of taking care of those kids.
00:05:55.000 And you really have no business having kids if you're too poor.
00:06:00.000 I'd say, look, anyone who's using powdered milk, don't have kids.
00:06:06.000 If you can't afford milk, you shouldn't have kids.
00:06:09.000 And nobody said a word about it.
00:06:11.000 It wasn't considered a political notion.
00:06:15.000 The thing that's insane is that all this stuff has become politicized.
00:06:20.000 For this country's existence, you have kids.
00:06:25.000 You'd be responsible for those kids.
00:06:28.000 You then pay for those kids, whether it's clothing, meals, schooling, education, whatever.
00:06:34.000 That was somewhere between no duh and no s. Now it's turned into some sort of political
00:06:43.000 Which is insane to me.
00:06:45.000 And now, because I'm basically a guy who says, if you want to smoke pot, smoke pot.
00:06:52.000 I'm not going to tell you whether to do that or not.
00:06:55.000 And if you want to go to the beach and start a bonfire and roast marshmallows, go ahead and do that.
00:07:01.000 Take out a flaming stick and throw it in another guy's camper.
00:07:05.000 I've got a problem with you, but just go do your own thing.
00:07:09.000 I've always just preached, don't hurt anybody, go do your own thing and be responsible.
00:07:14.000 But somehow that's turned me into a conservative, which is bizarre.
00:07:19.000 One of the things I wanted to ask you, Adam, because you're friends with a lot of people who are still in mainstream Hollywood.
00:07:23.000 Obviously, you have a lot of friends who are on late night TV.
00:07:26.000 Jimmy Kimmel comes to mind.
00:07:27.000 And a lot of the people you hang out with and are friends with are definitely on the left side of the aisle.
00:07:32.000 I mean, they're folks who definitely, they raise money for Democrats.
00:07:34.000 They like the Democratic Party.
00:07:36.000 Well, I think part of it is
00:08:04.000 Some hypocrisy, obviously.
00:08:07.000 I don't know that it's an intentional hypocrisy with a lot of people that I know, that I'm friends with, that are very squarely Democratic.
00:08:17.000 I think a lot of it is a few things.
00:08:22.000 One, the Democrats have done a wonderful campaign.
00:08:28.000 I mean, what I'm saying is this.
00:08:32.000 My wife will buy Pantene shampoo, and I'll go, that's $12.
00:08:39.000 I've seen all the reports.
00:08:40.000 The stuff for $1.99 is exactly the same.
00:08:43.000 And she'll go, this stuff is best for my hair.
00:08:47.000 And I go, why?
00:08:48.000 And she'll go, it's got Pro-Nutria 5.
00:08:51.000 And I'll go, they made that up.
00:08:54.000 It's like they made up a
00:08:56.000 I don't know.
00:09:15.000 The Democrats have done a pretty wonderful campaign of convincing everybody that conservatives were bad people who hated minorities, who hated children, who wanted to see them go to bed hungry, who didn't care if they were fed or sheltered, who hated veterans, who hated the elderly, who hated anyone having access to both control or medicine.
00:09:40.000 And one could argue, like, one of the best Madison Avenue-style pieces of advertising in terms of campaign, and the folks in Hollywood want to be on the happy side of the ad campaign.
00:09:59.000 And I get it.
00:10:00.000 And also, they have to co-mingle.
00:10:05.000 I mean,
00:10:06.000 You have to have these people at your party, on your show, in your corner.
00:10:11.000 I mean, nobody wants to be ostracized or blackballed.
00:10:16.000 I mean, I've come up with three movies.
00:10:23.000 One of them was called Sports Illustrated Best Sports Comedy of the Year, and is at 89% on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:10:32.000 Certified Fresh, 80%, 81% with Top Critics.
00:10:37.000 I have a documentary about Paul Newman.
00:10:39.000 It's 100% on Rotten Tomatoes, and 94% with the people.
00:10:44.000 I have another comedy called Roadheart.
00:10:46.000 It's 75%, 78% with the people on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:10:51.000 None of them have been accepted into Sundance.
00:10:54.000 None of them.
00:10:55.000 Now, it would behoove me, as a filmmaker, to shut my mouth and get my documentary that's at 100% on Rotten Tomatoes on into Sundance.
00:11:12.000 Which, by the way, Robert Redford is in this documentary.
00:11:15.000 Sundance is named after his character that him and Paul Newman played, Bertrand Sundance.
00:11:21.000 Have a legendary friendship, not accepted into Sundance.
00:11:26.000 So, higher rated than any of the Oscar-nominated documentaries of the year it came out two years ago, not accepted to Sundance.
00:11:38.000 So, there is a business decision to be made here.
00:11:43.000 I'm not making the right one, but there is a business decision to be made, and it comes down to business in a lot of Hollywood.
00:12:04.000 The thing is, is you check the people's rating on Road Hard and then check the critics.
00:12:07.000 You'll see there's a nice chasm in there.
00:12:08.000 The thing that's kind of interesting
00:12:28.000 is my first movie i did um the hammer i did 10 years ago and the critics weren't really on to me and my crazy notions about people feeding their own kids breakfast
00:12:45.000 This lunacy, this heresy that I speak of.
00:12:48.000 So my first movie, which is another just nice romantic comedy, they were not really on to me.
00:12:56.000 So you can see that there's not much of a gap between the people and the critic.
00:13:00.000 Now you fast forward 10 years to the next movie and you'll see a larger gap.
00:13:08.000 In your social circles, Adam, do you feel like, because obviously you still work in a lot of these social circles, do you feel like you've been ostracized by people?
00:13:15.000 Do they look at you differently than they did ten years ago, or do they sort of just say, well, Adam was always Adam, he was always iconoclastic, and, you know, that's just Adam being Adam?
00:13:25.000 The people who know me know who I am and how I've always been, and it's never been a mystery to them.
00:13:33.000 Again, it's the kind of thing where
00:13:39.000 I have spoken to people like Tom Arnold, who saw this Newman documentary and was incensed that it wasn't at Sundance, and I told him to look into it a little, and he basically said, you're on kind of a list, and that list is kind of a no-fly list when it comes to this sort of stuff.
00:14:00.000 I mean, again, if you look at the movie,
00:14:07.000 You can always go, well, it's subjective.
00:14:09.000 But if you look at a movie and it's 100% with the top critics, 90% with the regular critics, and 95% with the people, and the subject is about the best friend of the guy who started Sundance, and you don't get accepted into Sundance, one thinks, well, maybe there's some powers at play.
00:14:33.000 For me, the first movie I did, The Hammer, the guy who ran Sundance simply stated, I don't like Adam Carolla.
00:14:41.000 And so we're not letting him in.
00:14:42.000 So, yes, there is an element of there's a price to pay for having the opinions that I share on a regular basis.
00:14:57.000 Understood.
00:14:58.000 Adam's written a bunch of books.
00:14:59.000 One of his books is President Me, so he's started to forge into the political direction a little bit more openly than he used to.
00:15:07.000 And I want to ask you your political advice from sort of a cultural side, Adam, because obviously I do political analysis for a living, but you're a cultural critic much more than I am because you live in that every day.
00:15:17.000 And so I wanted to ask you, you know, you mentioned the Republican branding and how the Republican branding sucks and how they've done a really poor job and the Democrats have done a much better job.
00:15:25.000 You're an atheist libertarian, essentially.
00:15:27.000 Do you think that the Republican Party would do better if they got off the sort of religious aspect and started moving, not telling their religious base to sit down and shut up, but more just saying,
00:15:41.000 Look, just get the government out of everything.
00:15:43.000 One of the things that struck me about this election cycle is we basically have a Democrat running as a Democrat in Hillary, a Democrat running as a Republican in Trump, a Democrat running as a Libertarian in Gary Johnson, and a Democrat running as a Green Party member in Jill Stein.
00:15:54.000 At some point, do you think that there's the future for a kind of conservative-slash-libertarian movement here?
00:16:00.000 Because obviously you have a big crowd of people who agree with your basic premise, which is, as long as you're not hurting anybody else, leave me alone.
00:16:09.000 Yeah, you know, I think the problem is the Democrats have figured out, as long as we say really nice things about
00:16:21.000 This community and that community then will get their votes.
00:16:26.000 And we won't do anything for those communities, and the reason we won't do anything for those communities is because they can't do anything for those communities.
00:16:36.000 There's nothing you can do.
00:16:37.000 If the family's going to be fractured, if people aren't going to focus on education, there's really nothing you can do.
00:16:44.000 There's no programs to fix
00:16:47.000 If it's broken, you know, I always look at it as this, because I was a former contractor.
00:16:54.000 Here's what I believe the Democrats say they're going to do.
00:16:59.000 If your basement is leaky and it's taken on water every time it rains, the only way to really fix that basement properly is to excavate all the way around the outside of it and waterproof it from the outside.
00:17:15.000 To patch it from the inside out doesn't work.
00:17:21.000 It works a little bit, it works temporarily, but it doesn't fix the problem.
00:17:27.000 And saying, you know, more lunch programs, more computers for low-income, more late-night libraries are going to stay open later, more after-school programs, it's all very good, but it's still patching from the inside.
00:17:42.000 You really want to stop the basement from leaking?
00:17:45.000 You've got to go outside, and the outside's the family unit.
00:17:49.000 You have to fix the family unit.
00:17:51.000 That stops the water from coming in, only done from the outside.
00:17:55.000 Everything else is temporary and a patch and doesn't really work.
00:17:59.000 Everything the Democrats have been espousing for the last 50 years have just been inside patching.
00:18:08.000 What the Republicans talk about is maybe we should talk about our inside patch job and try to win over more of these people who have three foot of water in their basement, but that's still more patching from the inside.
00:18:23.000 Somebody, I don't know on what side, the Democrats shouldn't do it because they've already got it locked down, but some libertarian or somebody ought to just go, look, you want to fix the problem?
00:18:34.000 We've got to excavate the outside of the house and we've got to... And people go, I don't want to hear that.
00:18:39.000 That's a lot of money.
00:18:40.000 That's a lot of earth.
00:18:41.000 That's a lot of work.
00:18:42.000 I don't want to do that.
00:18:42.000 And you've got to go, you want to fix the problem or don't you want to fix the problem?
00:18:46.000 Yep.
00:18:47.000 Adam Carolla, not only the funniest guy in America, but also one of the most profound thinkers, which is amazing, because that's not what Adam thinks of himself as, I think, but that is what he is nonetheless, because sometimes simple truth is not so simple in today's political environment.
00:19:03.000 The Adam Carolla Show, you can check it out at adamcarolla.com, and of course, his podcast is one of the most successful podcasts in American history, so check out the Adam Carolla Podcast.
00:19:13.000 Adam, thanks so much.
00:19:13.000 Appreciate it.
00:19:15.000 Thanks, Ben.
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00:19:52.000 Okay, so on to the news of the day.
00:19:54.000 So much to get to.
00:19:56.000 This is going to be like an eight-hour show today, so congratulations to you, gang.
00:19:59.000 All right, not congratulations to the people who work here, but tough.
00:20:02.000 I mean, they get paid, you don't.
00:20:04.000 So okay, so let's start with today.
00:20:07.000 Hillary Clinton, in just a few minutes probably, is going to be giving her speech about the
00:20:12.000 She's attacking the alt-right.
00:20:13.000 So first of all, I wanted to find what the alt-right is, because most people don't know what this is.
00:20:17.000 I would say that 80% of Republicans have no clue what the alt-right is.
00:20:21.000 Then of the remaining 20%, most of the people who know about the alt-right are not big fans of it.
00:20:27.000 There's probably 5% of all Republicans who consider themselves alt-right.
00:20:30.000 That's at the very, very high end.
00:20:32.000 There's not a lot of people who consider themselves alt-right.
00:20:34.000 But they have an outsized way, because they're very loud on social media.
00:20:37.000 And a lot of people fall into the trap of thinking that they like the alt-right because they don't know everything there is to know about how they define themselves.
00:20:43.000 So let me give you sort of a background on what the alt-right is and that'll allow you to understand why this is important and why Hillary Clinton is doing what she's doing and why it's a problem for Donald Trump.
00:20:55.000 Many of the members of the so-called alt-right are leftovers from something called Gamergate.
00:20:59.000 Gamergate is not something I covered in depth because I'm not a gamer, but it was an important movement that was an attempt to shut down the cultural censorship surrounding video games.
00:21:07.000 Andrew Klavan's talked about this because he's a gamer.
00:21:09.000 There are all these reviewers who decided that it was inappropriate and terrible for
00:21:14.000 Anybody to make a video game that contained within it sexist tropes or right-wing tropes.
00:21:20.000 And so they started giving bad reviews and trying to destroy all of these video games.
00:21:23.000 Gamergate comes along and a bunch of people decide that they're going to fight back against this, which is good.
00:21:28.000 One of the ways they decide to fight back against this is by posting deliberately offensive content to violate all of the left's taboos.
00:21:36.000 And they want to, what they call, trigger the social justice warriors.
00:21:40.000 Now this is not a tactic I think is particularly useful.
00:21:42.000 I'm of the view that you speak the truth and if people are triggered by it, then they're triggered by it.
00:21:46.000 But you don't go out of your way just to say things that are offensive because otherwise that just makes you a jerk.
00:21:52.000 You just say things that are true.
00:21:53.000 If people are offended, that's their problem, but it isn't your fault.
00:21:56.000 Okay, so what happened is that Gamergate, because they were so interested in sort of
00:22:00.000 We're good to go.
00:22:21.000 The largely linked with sort of the paleocons, Pat Buchanan, those people are very fond of Donald Trump's isolationist foreign policy and his anti-free trade positions.
00:22:32.000 And these are many of these people are very attached to the idea that European civilization is not based on the idea of Western civilization.
00:22:39.000 It's much more based on the ethnicity and the race of the people involved.
00:22:44.000 And so this is sort of the intellectual foundation for the alt-right movement.
00:22:49.000 It contains people ranging from Pat Buchanan, who is careful not to say things that are overtly racist most of the time, to people like Jared Taylor and David Duke and Richard Spencer.
00:23:00.000 Richard Spencer is the kind of guy, Milo Yiannopoulos wrote a piece about the alt-right where he broke it down in Breitbart, he mentioned openly people like Richard Spencer, Richard Spencer
00:23:08.000 is the sort of fellow who writes things like this quote our dream is a new society an ethno state that would be a gathering point for all europeans it would be a new society based on very different ideals than say the declaration of independence steve saylor another intellectual influence for these folks they say since jewish predilections play such a massive role in the media it's crucial to understand these biases and this sort of philosophy the sort of racist anti-semitic philosophy it runs
00:23:33.000 Inside a movement that basically says the only way to preserve European Western civilization is to preserve European ethnicity It's not the creed that unites us.
00:23:42.000 It's the race that unites us and they'll openly admit the members of the alt-right They're not conservative and they don't like conservatism They think conservatism has been a surrender that the conservatives surrendered long ago to the to the left This is why they call people who are conservative cuckservatives.
00:23:55.000 They suggest that we are cuckolds and when they say cuckold They don't just mean somebody whose wife cheated on him.
00:24:00.000 They mean somebody who enjoys watching his wife have sex
00:24:03.000 Peculiarly enough with black men, is because they're racist, at least in large part, and they believe that, like, for me, if my wife were having sex with another dude, it wouldn't matter to me the color of the dude, I'd be pretty upset, generally.
00:24:15.000 But for them, the worst thing would be if your wife is having sex with a black dude, and you approve, because that's just a metaphor for how you're allowing white society to be cucked, to be cuckolded by these minority groups.
00:24:26.000 Vox Dei is one of these ex-Scribble people, really one of the worst people on the internet, and Vox Dei,
00:24:32.000 I tend not to pay attention to because for the same reason that, you know, the best thing to do with the poop on your shoe is just to scrape it off and move on with your life.
00:24:38.000 But, since we're talking alt-right, Vox Dei is one of the more eloquent expositors of the alt-right.
00:24:43.000 He wrote a piece today, very angry at me for writing about the alt-right.
00:24:47.000 Here's what he wrote.
00:24:48.000 He wrote, Now, it is obvious that our philosophy differs from conservatism, although it is not as totally foreign to it.
00:24:54.000 As Ben is to America.
00:24:55.000 And Ben, of course, is surrounded by three parentheses.
00:24:58.000 And this is something the alt-right likes to do.
00:25:00.000 They surround every Jew, their name, with three parentheses.
00:25:02.000 Because Jews are foreign, as you'll see.
00:25:04.000 He says,
00:25:13.000 And more importantly, it falls to us to do so because conservatives, cuckservatives, and non-Westerners, such as Ben, right, three parentheses, have been lying about Western civilization's foundational principles for over a hundred years.
00:25:24.000 Well, first of all, I'm 32, so I can't really have been doing that, but nonetheless, this idea is that if you believe in the creed of the Declaration and the Constitution of the United States, then you've been lying about the foundational principles of Western civilization, which lie in racial tribalism and solidarity.
00:25:38.000 Here's what he says.
00:25:39.000 He says, Western civilization rests upon three pillars, Christianity,
00:25:42.000 The European nations and the rule of law.
00:25:44.000 Okay, I agree that Judeo-Christian thought is the foundation of Western civilization.
00:25:48.000 We talk about this all the time.
00:25:50.000 And I agree that European nations were the ones who brought that to its fruition.
00:25:54.000 But that doesn't mean that European ethnicity has anything to do with it.
00:25:57.000 He really doesn't.
00:25:58.000 I mean, the idea that a white person, because of the nature of the color of their skin, is more apt to be civilized than a black person is just pure racism.
00:26:05.000 Finally, it says, then, the rule of law.
00:26:06.000 He says,
00:26:15.000 He's simply following in the tradition of his tribal compatriots Emma Lazarus and Israel Zangwill in attempting to redefine the white Christian foundations of both America and the West on behalf of his own tribal interests.
00:26:25.000 So, I guess it's just because I'm a Jew, I want a lot of Mexicans to immigrate, which makes perfect sense if you're a crazy person.
00:26:32.000 He says, white tribalism in America is not only necessary, it is the inevitable consequence of the success two invading tribes had in overturning the immigration standards in 1965.
00:26:41.000 So everybody's very upset about the Immigration Act of 1965.
00:26:44.000 I agree, the Immigration Act of 1965 was crappy.
00:26:48.000 But I'm not a good conservative because I'm a Jew, and Jews can't understand Western civilization because they're not Christians, and because they're not Europeans, and because they're not white.
00:26:55.000 Alright, so this is sort of the philosophy of the alt-right.
00:26:58.000 And they express it in sometimes odd ways.
00:27:01.000 Here is an alt-right celebration video, I have to admit.
00:27:04.000 The alt-right blows in a number of ways.
00:27:07.000 They blow the saxophone and they also just blow.
00:27:08.000 Here's a version of We Didn't Start the Fire by some alt-right kook.
00:27:12.000 And it actually does a fairly decent job of summing up what the alt-right is all about.
00:27:16.000 Pap, Buchanan, Richard, Lynn, Sam, Nixon, Mike, Levin, Jared, Taylor, Joseph, Sobern, Peter, Brimelow, Larry, Astor, Arthur, Jetson, Samuel, Francis, Philip, Rushin, Charles, Murray, Murray, Rothbard, Gavin, and Jim Goad.
00:27:36.000 Culture wars, bell curve, LA riots hit a nerve.
00:27:40.000 Neocons usurp the right, cities fall into white flight.
00:27:43.000 9-11, Iraq, economic setback.
00:27:46.000 Soon the white race feels the pain of two terms of hope and change.
00:27:49.000 We didn't start the movement.
00:27:52.000 So they give a whole list of people and the whole video is a group of white nationalists
00:28:10.000 Um, and, uh, occasionally punctuated by somebody like Charles Murray, who's not a white nationalist.
00:28:15.000 Uh, and then they, they talk about how, you know, they are uncucked and hell-bent, meaning that they are awake.
00:28:19.000 They're woke, basically, would be the left-wing equivalent.
00:28:21.000 They're woke, except they're white supremacists.
00:28:23.000 Uh, and, and they're aware that there's a war on white people.
00:28:26.000 There's quote-unquote white genocide, right?
00:28:27.000 This is what they are deeply worried about.
00:28:29.000 So this is the alt-right.
00:28:30.000 This is the alt-right.
00:28:31.000 So, here's the problem.
00:28:32.000 Donald Trump has attracted the alt-right for a couple of reasons.
00:28:35.000 One is that Donald Trump
00:28:37.000 Share some policy prescriptions with the alt-right, such as he's very, or he used to be, we'll talk about this, he used to be very hardcore on illegal immigration, and he used to talk about the threat of non-white peoples, right, this is sort of what the alt-right enjoys about Donald Trump.
00:28:55.000 And so they liked that about Trump.
00:28:57.000 They liked that he was not politically correct, by which they mean that he said deliberately offensive things about various groups of people, and they think that this is a strike back against the SJWs, the social justice warriors.
00:29:07.000 They also like Trump because Trump winks at them.
00:29:10.000 And because Trump winks at them, and I knew this was going to happen, because Trump winks at them,
00:29:15.000 Some people have picked up on that, right?
00:29:17.000 And so Hillary Clinton has now picked up on that.
00:29:19.000 She's going to give a big speech about this today.
00:29:21.000 Here is Hillary Clinton talking about her big speech that she's going to give today on the alt-right.
00:29:25.000 Donald Trump called you a bigot.
00:29:27.000 He'd been calling your policies bigoted.
00:29:29.000 Tonight he actually called you a bigot.
00:29:31.000 How do you respond to that?
00:29:34.000 Oh, Anderson, it reminds me of that great saying that Maya Angelou had, that when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.
00:29:44.000 And Donald Trump has shown us who he is, and we ought to believe him.
00:29:47.000 He is taking a hate movement mainstream.
00:29:51.000 He's brought it into his campaign.
00:29:53.000 He's bringing it to our communities and our countries.
00:29:56.000 And, you know, someone questioned the citizenship of the first African-American president who has courted white supremacists, who's been sued for housing discrimination against communities of color.
00:30:11.000 Thank you.
00:30:22.000 No, very much peddling bigotry and prejudice and paranoia.
00:30:43.000 I think so.
00:31:03.000 Right, standing in front of a Holocaust door.
00:31:05.000 I mean, it looks like the door at Auschwitz with a button, and he's wearing a Nazi uniform, and behind it is Jeb Bush.
00:31:12.000 But they have ones that are of me, right?
00:31:14.000 Pictures of me inside the gas chamber.
00:31:15.000 This has become one of their favorite memes.
00:31:17.000 They also have tweets along these lines.
00:31:21.000 There are multiple tweets along these lines, and there are ones, you know, calling me a cuck, and there's something they like called Peppy the Frog, which is kind of an old cartoon that they've now repurposed.
00:31:30.000 They like the ones where they call me a Shekelmeister.
00:31:33.000 Because I'm a Jew, that Vox Dei hates that Jews are part of the political discourse, because Jews, of course, don't have the interests of the United States at heart.
00:31:41.000 So, this is what— So, Donald Trump has winged and nodded at these people, and I'll give you two specific examples where he's winged and nodded.
00:31:47.000 So, the first was where I really broke with Donald Trump fully, and that's where Donald Trump went on national TV with Jake Tapper, and then he refused to condemn the KKK and David Duke.
00:31:57.000 And people say, oh, well, you know, he did it all the other times.
00:31:59.000 He did it before and after.
00:32:00.000 As I've said before,
00:32:01.000 If someone says, is rape bad, and 99 times out of 100 you say, rape is terrible, and the 100th time someone says, is rape bad, and you go, well, rape, you know, maybe, I haven't heard that much about it, maybe it's, I don't know.
00:32:17.000 People are rightly going to jump on you and say, uh, you're supposed to say rape is bad all the time.
00:32:21.000 This is called an easy question.
00:32:23.000 So that was number one.
00:32:24.000 Then Donald Trump started getting all sorts of questions about all these alt-right people who have been tweeting at him that he's retweeting and alt-right people attacking Jewish journalists like Julia Jaffe.
00:32:33.000 And he would say, well, I have nothing to say about their anti-Semitic attacks.
00:32:35.000 I have nothing to say about that.
00:32:36.000 She wrote a bad piece.
00:32:37.000 So people on the alt-right feel solidarity with Donald Trump.
00:32:41.000 That is true.
00:32:41.000 They do feel solidarity with Donald Trump.
00:32:43.000 Go to any of their message boards.
00:32:44.000 Go to 4chan or Reddit.
00:32:46.000 Go to any of the places that they like to hang out.
00:32:49.000 And there's great love for Donald Trump.
00:32:51.000 So that means that Hillary Clinton now has an opening.
00:32:53.000 Because we on the right have been trying to avoid the stigma of being labeled racist because it's a lie, it's a lie, it's an absolute lie.
00:33:00.000 We've been spending our entire lives fighting against the absolute lie that people on the right are racist.
00:33:06.000 And along comes these white nationalist idiots, these alt-right people, who actually are racists, and Trump is pooh-poohing them.
00:33:12.000 So here's the ad that Hillary Clinton just released.
00:33:15.000 The reason a lot of Klan members like Donald Trump is because a lot of what he believes, we believe in.
00:33:21.000 Says these people support Trump because they believe Trump supports them.
00:33:24.000 Donald Trump would be best for the job.
00:33:27.000 For president.
00:33:27.000 Yeah.
00:33:28.000 This is a guy in a KKK robe, right?
00:33:30.000 Support Donald Trump.
00:33:31.000 Sending out all the illegals.
00:33:33.000 Building a wall.
00:33:34.000 This is Jared Taylor, an actual white supremacist.
00:33:36.000 Islamic immigration.
00:33:37.000 That's very appealing to a lot of ordinary white people.
00:33:40.000 Voting against Donald Trump at this point is really treason to your heritage.
00:33:44.000 I don't know anything about white supremacists, so I don't know.
00:33:54.000 And then they say, this is who runs Trump's campaign.
00:33:56.000 This is his new campaign CEO.
00:33:58.000 Mr. Bannon is best known for his controversial Breitbart News.
00:34:01.000 A campaign chair that ran a website that has become a field day for the alt-right, which is racist, and all sorts of other ists.
00:34:09.000 The alt-right, which is the sort of dressed up in suits version of the neo-Nazi and white supremacist movements.
00:34:16.000 It says if Trump wins, they could be running the country.
00:34:18.000 A lot of what he believes, we believe in.
00:34:21.000 Okay, the reason that's an effective ad is not because of the KKK imagery, because everybody's honing in on that.
00:34:26.000 I mean, there are crazy people of all sides who back all sorts of candidates.
00:34:30.000 I mean, there are people—the Communist Party backs Hillary Clinton.
00:34:33.000 But what's telling there is that one quote from Trump, and that's the killer.
00:34:36.000 I mean, that's the killer app.
00:34:37.000 When they drop the line where Trump says that he doesn't know anything about white supremacists or the KKK, and then you've got David Duke talking about how wonderful he is,
00:34:45.000 It's pretty damning stuff.
00:34:48.000 Now, here's the problem.
00:34:49.000 In other times, we'd be able to say, this is a lie, it's terrible.
00:34:53.000 Because Trump has flirted with these people, it makes it more difficult to say that.
00:34:56.000 Now, I will say, it's disgusting that the left is trying to now paint the entire right with the brush of the alt-right.
00:35:01.000 I'm about as right-wing as it is possible to be, and I'm probably the number one target on the alt-right list.
00:35:06.000 If I'm not number one, I'm certainly in the top five.
00:35:08.000 I mean, I'm no friend to the alt-right, and I have the very expensive security system and the extra shotgun shells to prove it.
00:35:14.000 Which I purchased largely after I started receiving all sorts of death threats from the alt-right.
00:35:18.000 So, I'm fully aware of the threats of the alt-right, but they're being mainstreamed by incompetent conservatives, and by the left that wants to see them lumped in with the rest of the conservatives.
00:35:28.000 Doug McIlwaiy is a commentator on Fox News, and here, for example, is Doug McIlwaiy trying to pretend that the alt-right isn't that bad.
00:35:35.000 So, how did they come up with these tactics?
00:35:38.000 What's the background here, Doug?
00:35:40.000 Well, you know, the alt-right is using the same tactics that the left has used for generations now, basically fighting fire with fire.
00:35:47.000 That's a big part of it.
00:35:48.000 It's demonstrated in something that Mike Rowe, you might know him, the popular host of the Dirty Jobs show, something that he posted on Facebook recently.
00:35:56.000 It's okay to poke fun at Trump supporters as uneducated white men, he says, but Rowe asks rhetorically, and I'm quoting here,
00:36:03.000 If the media didn't care about the lack of college among black men supporting Obama, why do they care so much about the lack of college among white men supporting Trump?
00:36:12.000 Moreover, when exactly are we dealing with a lack of education?
00:36:16.000 Rose notes that tradesmen, mechanics, welders, carpenters make up a part of the Trump base and they are hardly without education.
00:36:23.000 Indeed they are highly skilled.
00:36:25.000 Okay, linking the entire right, linking legit people with the alt-right that have nothing to do with the alt-right is really nasty.
00:36:32.000 Hugh Hewitt made this mistake too.
00:36:33.000 He suggested that anybody who didn't back Mitch McConnell was an alt-right person, which is just insane.
00:36:37.000 It's not true at all.
00:36:38.000 I think Hugh backed off that position after he was informed that he was wrong.
00:36:42.000 The attempt to lump in all conservatives with the alt-right is really devastating.
00:36:46.000 And the fact that you have people like Reince Priebus, who instead of just saying to Donald Trump, you need to disassociate from the alt-right, will presumably just sort of poo-poo Donald Trump.
00:36:54.000 You watch.
00:36:55.000 Donald Trump will be asked about this.
00:36:56.000 He'll say, I'm not a member of the alt-right.
00:36:57.000 I'm not a member of the alt-right.
00:36:58.000 And then he'll wink and he'll nod at the alt-right.
00:36:59.000 Because Donald Trump responds to applause.
00:37:01.000 That's why Donald Trump has been soft on them.
00:37:03.000 If Vladimir Putin pays him a compliment, he's a friend of Vladimir Putin.
00:37:06.000 If the alt-right cheers him on and makes cuck memes about his enemies, then he's a friend of the alt-right.
00:37:10.000 This is one of the reasons why I've been so staunchly against unifying with Donald Trump.
00:37:15.000 It's one of the reasons why I won't get behind him.
00:37:16.000 It's one of the reasons why I don't support him.
00:37:18.000 It's one of the reasons why I have trouble voting for him, because I think that the attempt by the left to turn the right into the party of the alt-right, to hollow it out,
00:37:29.000 It's actually happening on part of a lot of people on the alt-right.
00:37:32.000 So, for example, Richard Spencer, who's an absolute open racist, he says, quote,
00:37:53.000 Okay, and he's right.
00:37:54.000 He's actually right.
00:37:55.000 Hillary wants the GOP to become the alt-right.
00:37:58.000 That's what she would like.
00:37:59.000 And the alt-right wants the GOP to become the alt-right.
00:38:01.000 I don't want the GOP to become the alt-right, and I don't want to humor the alt-right, and I don't want to humor people who humor the alt-right.
00:38:06.000 So that's the, that's the sort of, that's what's going on with the alt-right speech.
00:38:10.000 I also have, you know, a theory that Hillary Clinton may be attempting to paint Donald Trump as so dark and terrible that she won't even debate him.
00:38:17.000 He's so alt-right, he's so scary, he's so demonic that I won't even debate him, I won't give him a platform, and then she'll just waltz to the election by denying him the ability to really hit her in open debate.
00:38:27.000 Okay, so that was big piece of news number one today, and Hillary Clinton is supposed to be speaking in a few minutes on this topic, so I'm sure we'll find out more.
00:38:35.000 Second big piece of news, Donald Trump flips on immigration.
00:38:38.000 So Donald Trump went on Sean Hannity's show, and Sean Hannity basically walks him to Jeb Bush's position on illegal immigration.
00:38:47.000 That's seriously what happens.
00:38:48.000 So now it's time to play a game of Good Trump, Bad Trump.
00:38:51.000 Our theme is brought to you by Brandon Snipes.
00:39:02.000 So unfortunately, a fair bit of bad Trump today.
00:39:04.000 So here is bad Trump.
00:39:06.000 So we'll start with a little bit of history of Trump on amnesty.
00:39:09.000 Donald Trump has taken every position it is possible to take on amnesty and illegal immigration.
00:39:14.000 Donald Trump has taken.
00:39:15.000 He has more positions on this issue than the Kama Sutra.
00:39:18.000 Okay, Donald Trump, here's an ad that Donald Trump cut against Ted Cruz during the primaries.
00:39:24.000 But you know what?
00:39:25.000 I want to protect my family.
00:39:26.000 Paris, San Bernardino, and now Brussels?
00:39:30.000 I want a president that will keep us safe.
00:39:32.000 We need to control our borders and stop letting in dangerous people.
00:39:36.000 Trump will do that.
00:39:37.000 And Ted Cruz?
00:39:38.000 He wanted to let in more Syrian refugees and give amnesty to illegal immigrants.
00:39:42.000 That won't protect my family.
00:39:44.000 Stop it there.
00:39:45.000 Amnesty for illegal immigrants.
00:39:46.000 And then there's Trump directly accusing Cruz of supporting amnesty.
00:39:49.000 Ted was in favor of amnesty.
00:39:51.000 Him and Marco Rubio have been fighting about who's weaker.
00:39:55.000 Now all of a sudden, and I was watching Ted the other day and it was very interesting, he said, and we must build a wall.
00:40:02.000 Okay?
00:40:03.000 And my wife said, darling, he just said build a wall.
00:40:05.000 That's the first person that said build a wall.
00:40:07.000 I've been saying it for five years.
00:40:09.000 But he said, and we will build a wall.
00:40:12.000 So now he's taken my idea for the wall.
00:40:14.000 I'm glad he's taken it.
00:40:15.000 I think it's the right thing to do.
00:40:18.000 He says that Cruz is in favor of amnesty.
00:40:21.000 And here's Donald Trump hitting Rubio on amnesty.
00:40:24.000 Marco Rubio, you disagree with him obviously strenuously on immigration.
00:40:27.000 But he is, he is Hispanic, he is obviously, his parents are Cuban.
00:40:32.000 He has a story, an inspirational story.
00:40:34.000 That's why he wants amnesty.
00:40:35.000 Would you put him as a VP on your ticket?
00:40:39.000 It's too early to say.
00:40:40.000 I like him.
00:40:40.000 I mean, he's a nice guy.
00:40:41.000 I was with him.
00:40:42.000 I've gotten to know him.
00:40:43.000 It's one of the funny things, because people say I'm a little rough on some of the candidates.
00:40:46.000 I like them all.
00:40:47.000 I like Jeb Bush.
00:40:48.000 Okay, so he rips Rubio on amnesty there.
00:40:50.000 Here's him ripping Jeb Bush, his favorite target on amnesty, during one of the debates.
00:40:53.000 When I announced that I was running for president on June 16th, illegal immigration wasn't even a subject.
00:41:00.000 If I didn't bring it up, you wouldn't even be talking.
00:41:06.000 I don't often agree with Marco, and I don't often agree with Ted, but I can in this case.
00:41:12.000 The weakest person on this stage by far on illegal immigration is Jeb Bush.
00:41:18.000 They come out of an act of love, whether you like it or not.
00:41:23.000 He is so weak on illegal immigration, it's laughable, and everybody knows it.
00:41:29.000 Okay, so there he is ripping Jeb Bush.
00:41:30.000 Now, at the time that this happened, Jeb Bush warned.
00:41:33.000 He did.
00:41:33.000 He said, Trump is lying to you.
00:41:34.000 All of his talk about how he's going to build the wall and he's going to deport 12 million people, it's a lie.
00:41:39.000 Here's Jeb Bush saying, look, he's lying to you, gang.
00:41:42.000 Bush also dismissed Trump's proposals for a trade embargo with Mexico, a fence along the entire southern border, and his call to confiscate earnings sent from undocumented workers to their families back home.
00:41:54.000 To
00:41:55.000 Withhold remittances for people living here that are sending money back to their families?
00:42:00.000 It's just not realistic.
00:42:02.000 What would you have to do to try to do that?
00:42:03.000 I have no idea.
00:42:04.000 I mean, the implementation of that is just not practical.
00:42:08.000 Creating an embargo on Mexico, our third largest trading partner?
00:42:12.000 It's not realistic to suggest that you would do that.
00:42:14.000 It's not realistic to create a fence in places where fences can't be built.
00:42:20.000 Okay, so there he is saying that Trump is lying to you, and then there's Cruz saying Trump is lying to you.
00:42:24.000 You know, the amazing thing, Mark, all of us are frustrated with politicians lying to us.
00:42:30.000 I'm actually going to give Trump a little bit of credit here.
00:42:34.000 He's being candid.
00:42:35.000 He's telling us he's lying to us.
00:42:39.000 You look at what his campaign manager says.
00:42:41.000 This is just an act.
00:42:43.000 This is just a show.
00:42:44.000 You know, when Donald talks about building a wall, when Donald talks about enforcing immigration laws, when Donald talks about, I guess, anything, that it's all an act and a show.
00:42:59.000 We're all on board with the warning.
00:43:01.000 I was saying at the time, I will be, I was conservative on immigration long before Trump was, I'll be conservative on immigration long after Trump is.
00:43:08.000 So now it's time for the pivot.
00:43:09.000 So last night on Hannity.
00:43:10.000 So remember, Hannity during the primaries was excoriating Amnesty Rubio and Cruz for not being strong enough against the Gang of Eight bill and all this nonsense.
00:43:19.000 Here was Donald Trump last night performing the full flip.
00:43:22.000 And I have to say, the person who had the worst day in America yesterday was Ann Coulter, my friend Ann Coulter.
00:43:26.000 Ann has a book out called In Trump We Trust, all about why you should trust Trump on immigration.
00:43:31.000 She gave a launch party at the Breitbart headquarters last night as Donald Trump was saying this on Sean Hannity's program.
00:43:38.000 Can we go through a process, or do you think they have to get out?
00:43:42.000 Tell me.
00:43:43.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:43:44.000 You tell me.
00:43:45.000 Well, let's do a poll.
00:43:46.000 How many think they should go through a process that may be giving them a chance?
00:43:50.000 Clap.
00:43:50.000 We gotta hear you.
00:43:51.000 How many people... How many think they should go?
00:43:57.000 Do it again.
00:43:58.000 Do it again.
00:44:00.000 So let me ask you, because this is like, this place is packed.
00:44:03.000 Yeah.
00:44:03.000 Does everybody get this kind of a crowd?
00:44:05.000 No.
00:44:06.000 Huh?
00:44:06.000 No.
00:44:07.000 Do we throw them out, or do we work with them and try and do something?
00:44:12.000 Okay, ready?
00:44:13.000 Well, how many say we work with them?
00:44:14.000 Number one.
00:44:15.000 Number one.
00:44:15.000 People saying throw them out, right?
00:44:17.000 People actually chanting throw them out.
00:44:19.000 And Hannity and Trump both step in to try and stop the crowd that he just begged for their response from.
00:44:23.000 I mean, this is amazing stuff.
00:44:25.000 We'll say throw out.
00:44:26.000 Number two, we work with them.
00:44:28.000 Ready?
00:44:28.000 Number one.
00:44:33.000 Number two.
00:44:37.000 Originally you had said they're all out and there was a big brouhaha, but you're saying that if somebody can prove that they've been here, proven to be a citizen, but here's the big question though.
00:44:45.000 Go ahead.
00:44:46.000 No citizenship.
00:44:47.000 No citizenship.
00:44:50.000 Everyone agree with that?
00:44:53.000 I love Sean playing his teleprompter here.
00:45:05.000 I don't know.
00:45:24.000 Ann Coulter, you know, was tweeting about this last night, but Ann, I think, is a pretty good example of a Trump supporter.
00:45:29.000 Here are Ann's tweets about all this last night.
00:45:32.000 She was tweeting, only part he left out was the hoops they'll have to jump through.
00:45:35.000 Trump, no citizenship, let me go a step further, they'll pay back taxes.
00:45:38.000 She's being facetious.
00:45:39.000 She says, it's not amnesty, it's comprehensive immigration reform.
00:45:42.000 Right?
00:45:42.000 She's making fun of him.
00:45:43.000 She says, Trump, they have to pay taxes, there's no amnesty.
00:45:46.000 Pro tip, backs taxes mean we pay illegals $30,000 apiece.
00:45:50.000 This morning she comes out and she says, I support Donald Trump.
00:45:52.000 I support Donald Trump full scale.
00:46:04.000 And she actually compares him to Kim Jong-un.
00:46:08.000 And she says that she would walk over broken glass for him because he has said that, this is a direct quote, this is according to Joshua Greene, who I believe, where does Josh Greene write for?
00:46:18.000 He writes for the Boston Globe, I believe.
00:46:21.000 She says, quote, my worship for him is like the people of North Korea worship their dear leader, blind loyalty.
00:46:27.000 Once he gave that Mexican rapist speech, I'll walk across glass for him.
00:46:30.000 That's basically it.
00:46:31.000 Unlike the crazy Cruz supporters, I'll criticize him.
00:46:33.000 Uh-huh.
00:46:34.000 And I have, but it's all minor stylistic stuff.
00:46:36.000 We all want to shoot him at various times.
00:46:38.000 Okay, that's kind of weird.
00:46:40.000 So Ann was very, very upset about all the things that Donald Trump was saying last night, and his people are trying desperately to spin it.
00:46:47.000 Now, again,
00:46:49.000 I think that virtually all of his people will stand by him because he has the greatest campaign slogan ever, I'm not Hillary.
00:46:56.000 Now given his record on his other promises, I would like to see Donald Trump's birth certificate, but assuming he's not Hillary, that's a pretty great slogan.
00:47:03.000 But it is amusing to watch all of these people try to justify him.
00:47:06.000 Katrina Pearson, who honest to God, I don't know how this woman has a job still.
00:47:12.000 She was on CNN trying to explain the walk back by Trump.
00:47:15.000 He hasn't changed his position on immigration.
00:47:17.000 He's changed the words that he is saying.
00:47:21.000 Okay.
00:47:22.000 He hasn't changed his position on immigration.
00:47:24.000 He just changed all the words.
00:47:25.000 So I'm not saying Katrina Pearson is stupid.
00:47:27.000 I'm just saying the words Katrina Pearson is stupid.
00:47:30.000 Kellyanne Conway, who's much smarter than Katrina Pearson, she too struggles to explain why it is that Donald Trump's new position isn't actually Jeb Bush's old position.
00:47:39.000 It is this week, but it's always been.
00:47:41.000 No amnesty, no sanctuary city so that innocent victims like Kate Steinle who was murdered right in front of her father in San Francisco over a year ago, Chris, by a man who had been deported five times.
00:47:52.000 That should outrage everyone in this country regardless of their political affiliation.
00:47:56.000 Hillary Clinton is for sanctuary cities.
00:47:58.000 She's for catch and release.
00:48:00.000 She's for open borders.
00:48:01.000 He's actually considerably to the left of President Obama on the issue of immigration.
00:48:05.000 And the only way that the voters are going to know that is if we tell them, because she won't.
00:48:09.000 She's hiding from that.
00:48:11.000 No amnesty from him.
00:48:13.000 No open borders.
00:48:14.000 Secure the border.
00:48:15.000 Build the wall.
00:48:15.000 Have Mexico pay for it.
00:48:16.000 No sanctuary cities.
00:48:18.000 Get these businesses to register for E-Verify.
00:48:21.000 Make them more accountable.
00:48:22.000 You can't just look at somebody's document and then look the other way.
00:48:25.000 But that's no different than what Cruz, Rubio, and Bush wanted to do.
00:48:28.000 No, no, no.
00:48:28.000 It is different.
00:48:30.000 I don't know.
00:48:49.000 And I think Dick Durbin.
00:48:52.000 The Gang of Eight, their plan was amnesty.
00:48:54.000 Their plan was and is, if they had their way.
00:48:58.000 And I think it hurt him to try to work with these Democrats who want open borders and it hurt him.
00:49:03.000 So I think here what voters need to see is what Donald Trump is saying his immigration plan is.
00:49:08.000 Okay, so there you have it, the Trump campaign trying to spin.
00:49:12.000 Now, again, do I think any of this particular stuff hurts Trump?
00:49:15.000 No, I don't think this hurts Trump.
00:49:16.000 I think there's some members of his base who are kind of pissed off, but I think that most of the people who are in his really ardent base are basically fine with Donald Trump making this swivel.
00:49:24.000 But it is to point out that the swivel did happen, okay?
00:49:26.000 I think it is important to point out that when people told you so, they were correct.
00:49:30.000 And so when I tell you that Donald Trump is not going to appoint a conservative Supreme Court justice,
00:49:35.000 Take my word for it.
00:49:53.000 It's just, what else does he stand for?
00:49:55.000 Does anyone know at this point?
00:49:57.000 Okay, so now a brief moment of good Trump.
00:49:59.000 So here's Donald Trump saying something good.
00:50:01.000 Here's Donald Trump saying that Hillary Clinton is the real bigot in this race.
00:50:06.000 Hillary Clinton is a bigot who sees people of color only as votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future.
00:50:20.000 She's going to do nothing
00:50:23.000 For African-Americans.
00:50:25.000 She's going to do nothing for the Hispanics.
00:50:29.000 She doesn't care what her policies have done to your communities.
00:50:35.000 I think that's right message, wrong messenger.
00:50:38.000 That's true.
00:50:39.000 Hillary Clinton is a bigot.
00:50:40.000 She does treat black people as though they are a collective body of voters who are just aligned with her.
00:50:46.000 And she doesn't talk about any of the real problems that are plaguing the black community or solutions that can make the black community better off.
00:50:53.000 She doesn't do any of those things.
00:50:54.000 I do think I have to point out that it is very funny.
00:50:57.000 You may have missed it because of Trump speaking, but watch this lady and her facial reaction when Trump calls Hillary Clinton a bigot.
00:51:05.000 Did you see her?
00:51:06.000 That was classic.
00:51:07.000 That was hilarious.
00:51:10.000 We're running way past time, so let's skip straight to things I like and things I hate.
00:51:13.000 Sorry to the fellows who cut all the audio, but we hit most of it.
00:51:31.000 Land of Israel-related things this week and things that I like.
00:51:33.000 People always ask me what's the best book that I could get.
00:51:35.000 It gives me background of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
00:51:39.000 And the best book that you can get is very user-friendly.
00:51:41.000 It's one called Myths and Facts, a guide to the Arab-Israeli conflict by Mitchell Bard.
00:51:45.000 What's great about this book is that it breaks everything down, like all the different myths, into about half a page.
00:51:49.000 And so you'll know everything you need to know if you pick this up from Amazon.com.
00:51:53.000 It's a very good quick reference guide.
00:51:55.000 Okay, other things that I like.
00:51:59.000 Stephen Colbert is normally quite terrible.
00:52:01.000 I don't like Stephen Colbert.
00:52:02.000 I think that Stephen Colbert is a—I hated him a lot more when he was on Comedy Central because he used to engage in something that I'd term political blackface.
00:52:09.000 Blackface is evil, and it's when people would dress up as black people and then mock black people by pretending to be them.
00:52:15.000 And Colbert would do that by pretending to be a conservative and then slander conservatives.
00:52:19.000 And then if you'd call him on it, he would say, well, hey, man, I'm just being a funny man.
00:52:22.000 I'm just, you know, I'm not a real conservative.
00:52:23.000 I'm just pretending to be one.
00:52:25.000 It was really gross.
00:52:25.000 Well, Stephen Colbert, who I despise, he had on Anderson Cooper, and he did call him out on something kind of funny.
00:52:33.000 CNN hires Corey Lewandowski, who's the former campaign manager for Donald Trump.
00:52:37.000 Donald Trump was paying Corey Lewandowski while he was a contributor on CNN.
00:52:41.000 Stephen Colbert asks Cooper about it, and watch Cooper get all awkward.
00:52:44.000 Did you also interview Paul Manafort, I'm sure, right?
00:52:47.000 Yeah, I did, I think, one or two.
00:52:49.000 I think at least one.
00:52:50.000 So he was the previous campaign manager.
00:52:52.000 And then Corey Lewandowski was the manager before that.
00:52:54.000 Oh, Corey Lewandowski, who now works at CNN.
00:52:56.000 So he works for you guys.
00:52:59.000 Does he still get any money from the Trump people at the same time?
00:53:02.000 I believe, I read he gets a severance, a continuing severance from the Trump people.
00:53:05.000 So y'all are paying him, and Trump is paying him, but he's on your show doing analysis for a man he still gets cash from.
00:53:13.000 Pretty much.
00:53:14.000 Yeah, I guess that's one way to look at it.
00:53:17.000 I mean, yeah.
00:53:17.000 And you still respect his opinion, too?
00:53:19.000 Well, you know, we have people from all the campaigns.
00:53:24.000 Okay, so again, it is awkward that they are doing that, and it's good for Colbert for calling it out, because it is ridiculous.
00:53:30.000 Although you will never see Colbert call that out on the left side of the aisle.
00:53:34.000 Howard Dean is working for MSNBC.
00:53:36.000 I mean, the man's the former head of the DNC.
00:53:38.000 So, again, there's a double standard there, but I'm glad that at least it's called out sometimes.
00:53:42.000 Okay.
00:53:43.000 Things that I hate.
00:53:44.000 Let's do it.
00:53:49.000 Charles Blow is the worst columnist at the New York Times, which is saying a lot, because they're legitimately a huge crowd of people at the New York Times who are terrible columnists.
00:53:58.000 Charles Blow is their racial columnist, and he's just dishonest up to wazoo.
00:54:01.000 He was on CNN, and he was arguing with a black Trump supporter.
00:54:04.000 And Charles Blow, it just demonstrates how incompetent the left is.
00:54:09.000 He's asked by this black Trump supporter, you keep calling Trump a racist, can you give me some pieces of evidence that he's racist against black people?
00:54:16.000 And Charles Blow has nothing, so instead he does this.
00:54:18.000 Here's the deal, right?
00:54:19.000 So, Donald Trump is a bigot.
00:54:24.000 There's no other way to get around it.
00:54:26.000 Wow.
00:54:26.000 Anybody who supports, accepts that, supports it.
00:54:31.000 Anybody who supports it is promoting it.
00:54:33.000 And that makes you a part of the bigotry itself.
00:54:36.000 Now you have to decide.
00:54:38.000 Whether or not you want to be part of the bigotry that is Donald Trump.
00:54:42.000 You have to decide whether you want to be part of the sexism and misogyny that is Donald Trump.
00:54:46.000 You have to decide whether you want to be part of the bullying that would allow him to make fun of one of my disabled colleagues at the New York Times.
00:54:55.000 You have to decide that.
00:54:56.000 There is no other space for you.
00:54:58.000 There is no place for you to say, I'm going to put that to the side because I believe in conservative principles.
00:55:03.000 I can't put that to the side because I believe
00:55:06.000 That's a lot.
00:55:07.000 Bruce, I'm literally running out of time, so go ahead, I'll give you the last word.
00:55:22.000 Charles, you know, I'm sorry you can't answer the question because you know that you can't.
00:55:26.000 I don't know you, and I don't want to talk to you, and I don't want to answer your questions.
00:55:30.000 You need to go question somebody else who is interested in you.
00:55:34.000 Okay, this is what's obnoxious.
00:55:36.000 The Trump supporter had asked him, can you name something racist that Trump has said?
00:55:40.000 So, there are some actual examples of Trump saying some racist stuff, like the Mexican judge stuff, for example.
00:55:45.000 Or if he wants proof that he's a bigot, the KKK thing would be a not terrible example, not a great example, but it's not a terrible example.
00:55:51.000 Blo can't give one because he just assumes de facto all Republicans are racist.
00:55:55.000 And then when he's asked the question, I don't want to talk to you, I don't want to have a conversation with you, I don't know who you are,
00:56:00.000 Well, then why are you on TV?
00:56:01.000 I mean, like, you're there being paid, presumably, to sit there and talk with this guy, or even if you're not paid, you know that you're on with it.
00:56:08.000 Like, when I'm on TV, I know who I'm on with.
00:56:10.000 I don't have the right to just say, I don't know who you are.
00:56:11.000 I'm not talking to you anymore.
00:56:12.000 Why am I even here?
00:56:13.000 How did I get here?
00:56:14.000 Who drove me?
00:56:15.000 That's not the game that you get to play.
00:56:17.000 If you're gonna be part of the conversation, then be part of the conversation.
00:56:20.000 If you're just gonna brush it off because you want to ignore the question, then you're in dicey territory.
00:56:26.000 That's ridiculous.
00:56:26.000 Okay.
00:56:27.000 Now, it's time for a little bit of the mailbag.
00:56:29.000 I know we are so late, gang, but who cares?
00:56:31.000 All right.
00:56:32.000 You love it.
00:56:33.000 You know you love it.
00:56:33.000 Okay, so here we go.
00:56:36.000 Mailbag, do we have a graphic?
00:56:39.000 All right.
00:56:40.000 David writes, hey Ben, love the show.
00:56:43.000 I know you always claim the government is bad at most things and the place of government is to protect the rights of the people.
00:56:47.000 While I agree with that mostly, the government has been very effective in conserving the environment through national park programs.
00:56:52.000 How do you feel about this?
00:56:54.000 Does the rest of nature have any rights that the government should protect?
00:56:57.000 Okay, so I'm torn on the national parks issue mainly because a lot of the nicer areas in the United States have been preserved by private landowners who also care about the environment.
00:57:07.000 And the problem with the government just fencing off large swaths of territory is not, you know, the crown jewels of American environmentalism like Yosemite, which I really don't think anybody was going to move in and turn that into a thriving metropolis.
00:57:22.000 The federal government owns like 80% of Nevada and has fenced it off in the name of the environment in favor of national parks, in favor of the EPA, in favor of preserved wetlands.
00:57:34.000 Once you give the government the power to take land and just take it off limits like that, then what you're really doing is you're allowing them the power to control everybody's property rights.
00:57:41.000 And that is a little bit frightening to me.
00:57:43.000 So the idea of a park that's voted on by a community is one thing.
00:57:47.000 The idea of having a sort of
00:57:50.000 bureaucratic body that designates an area as just off-limits, that's another.
00:57:55.000 I don't like bureaucracies generally.
00:57:57.000 If Congress votes that they want to declare a national park off-limits, I don't have a general problem with that.
00:58:03.000 I do have a general problem with a bureaucratic structure just declaring huge swaths of lands under federal control.
00:58:10.000 I also think that there's the possibility that private parks would do just as good a job.
00:58:14.000 Okay, Matt writes, Dear Ben, my father-in-law works in administration for our local school district.
00:58:18.000 He's been telling us how visibly disturbed everyone is with Title IX regulations and speech codes concerning the nature of students' gender identity and how they must all stay gender neutral in conversation.
00:58:28.000 They know this is destructive and must comply.
00:58:30.000 What can they or we as a community do about this, if anything?
00:58:32.000 Well, I mean, the first thing that you could do, theoretically, is just continue to use normal language, and then if you're fired, you sue the district.
00:58:38.000 Because it is absolutely not a violation of Title IX protocol to call students by their birth gender.
00:58:44.000 We're good to go.
00:59:10.000 So my feeling is that this is something we have to fight back on and fight back on hard.
00:59:14.000 You don't have an obligation to lie to your students and lie to the people around you if a little boy calls himself a little girl.
00:59:21.000 And it's ridiculous.
00:59:22.000 Honestly, I think that it really is child endangerment for a lot of these parents to go along with the delusions of small children.
00:59:29.000 It's insane.
00:59:30.000 Patrick writes, Trump was once pretty liberal on legalizing pot in his youth.
00:59:33.000 I've noticed he flip-flops his policies to appease conservative voters.
00:59:36.000 Yeah, you noticed.
00:59:37.000 Do you think his prior liberal view on weed legalization would be a catalyst to his campaign?
00:59:40.000 Perhaps he can snag the minority vote as well as millennials.
00:59:43.000 I don't know from polling data how minorities feel about pot legalization.
00:59:47.000 Millennials obviously are very much for it.
00:59:49.000 I'm for pot legalization, by the way.
00:59:51.000 My view on pot legalization is very simple.
00:59:53.000 When I was in middle school, it was much easier to get pot than it was to get a drink.
00:59:57.000 That's because alcohol is legal, but heavily regulated.
01:00:00.000 Pot is illegal, but once it's in the system, it's almost impossible to police.
01:00:04.000 I've never tried pot.
01:00:05.000 I think the people who smoke pot are annoying.
01:00:09.000 Really, really annoying, and wasting their lives.
01:00:11.000 That said, the government sucks at everything, and they've proved that with the war on drugs.
01:00:15.000 Noah writes,
01:00:20.000 I'm starting to feel like we're babying him, saying, yay, Donald, you did something good.
01:00:23.000 I'm a person with very little optimism for the future of our country.
01:00:26.000 I seem to agree with you on everything except your seeming babying of Trump.
01:00:29.000 Why not just let it all crumble?
01:00:30.000 Okay, Noah, so, quick thing.
01:00:31.000 Number one, you're the first person who's ever noticed that I'm nice to Trump sometimes, so I really appreciate that.
01:00:37.000 That the segment is not called Bad Trump, it's called Good Trump, Bad Trump.
01:00:40.000 And the reason for that is because I try to call it as I see it.
01:00:42.000 When Hillary says something good, which is once in a blue moon, I try to praise her for it.
01:00:46.000 When Barack Obama said something good about freedom on college campuses, for example, I said something good about it.
01:00:51.000 When Trump says something good, I try to—and he does say some good things—I try to praise it.
01:00:55.000 When he does something bad, I try to call it like I see it.
01:00:57.000 So, some of that will be good, some of that will be bad.
01:00:59.000 I don't think that it's babying him.
01:01:01.000 I mean, honestly, of all the conservatives in America, the idea that I'm babying Donald Trump of all the conservatives in America seems a little bit of an exaggeration.
01:01:10.000 Joseph says, hey, Ben.
01:01:11.000 If you were to run for president, are there key points to your strategy to win?
01:01:14.000 For example, organizational structure, key states, people you think you could speak for your campaign, and vice president?
01:01:20.000 Well, I mean, this is a little bit far off down the road, considering that that's kind of a wild question.
01:01:25.000 But, you know, I think that if I were looking at the primary structure,
01:01:30.000 Everybody gets it wrong.
01:01:31.000 I was not as important as New Hampshire.
01:01:33.000 When you get to a general election, I think that, you know, having a more cosmopolitan candidate doesn't hurt so long as the cosmopolitan candidate is capable of speaking well to people in sort of swing states like New Hampshire,
01:01:46.000 Uh, and, and also capable of speaking to people, uh, in Iowa.
01:01:49.000 There are certain states that are sort of taken for granted.
01:01:51.000 Most of the states that are on the fence have very heavy cosmopolitan populations, and it's in those counties, uh, and the, and the juxtaposing counties that these elections are decided.
01:01:59.000 Uh, so it's, you know, that's, that's why I think it's important that you have somebody who can speak well, uh, which is not something that, um, which is, is certainly not something that, that Donald Trump is good at.
01:02:10.000 I mean, as far as VP picks and all the rest of it, uh, that's, that's down the road.
01:02:13.000 I mean, I...
01:02:15.000 I have no idea.
01:02:16.000 I have no idea.
01:02:17.000 I have seen the suggestion that I run the campaign and it should be Ben Shapiro for president and Ben Shapiro thug life for VP.
01:02:24.000 And considering they're both me, I think that that would probably be a mistake.
01:02:28.000 Only Trump can do such things.
01:02:30.000 Luke writes, hi Ben, lots of discussion on Article 5 of the Constitution and the Convention of States on social media forums.
01:02:35.000 What are your thoughts?
01:02:36.000 Can it or should it happen?
01:02:37.000 Yes, it can happen.
01:02:38.000 Yes, it should happen.
01:02:40.000 Will it happen?
01:02:41.000 Maybe, but it's definitely an uphill battle.
01:02:42.000 But everything's an uphill battle now, so I don't see why not.
01:02:45.000 Luke writes, Dear Ben, can you solve a Rubik's Cube?
01:02:49.000 I have never spent the amount of time necessary with a Rubik's Cube to get good at solving a Rubik's Cube.
01:02:54.000 I know there are guides online to doing it, and I could just follow those guides, but I'm honestly very, very bored by Rubik's Cubes.
01:03:01.000 There's a girl I went to school with at Harvard who used to solve these things in like 30 seconds, though.
01:03:05.000 Chris writes, Hey Ben, love the show, especially Lindsay.
01:03:07.000 This is the last one.
01:03:08.000 Sorry, I have to, I'm sorry folks if you didn't make the mailbag, but I was generous with my time.
01:03:13.000 Chris writes, Hi Ben, love the show, especially Lindsay.
01:03:16.000 And Lindsay didn't cultivate the mailbag this week.
01:03:18.000 By the way, thoughts and prayers for Lindsay.
01:03:19.000 Apparently good news came in today on her mom.
01:03:21.000 We'll keep you updated on that, but prayers are appreciated for Lindsay as well as her mother.
01:03:25.000 Hope she's doing well.
01:03:25.000 I'm a college student surrounded by SJWs all day, constantly being slammed with the necessity of entitlement.
01:03:31.000 Where did this extreme sense of entitlement come from?
01:03:33.000 How do we fix it?
01:03:34.000 Thanks for answering.
01:03:34.000 Keep up the great work.
01:03:35.000 I think the sense of entitlement among young Americans comes from two things.
01:03:38.000 One, we were born into extraordinary wealth in human history, extraordinary freedom in human history.
01:03:43.000 Two, since World War II, parents have decided it is significantly more important to cultivate a sense of self-esteem in their children than a sense of responsibility in their children.
01:03:52.000 Because of that, more people feel like they are entitled to things because they're entitled to feel good about themselves.
01:03:57.000 The only way to feel good about yourself is to be given success if you won't earn it.
01:04:01.000 And so because of that,
01:04:03.000 There's been a sort of move toward self-esteem that is now filtered down over the course of three generations, and it's very dangerous.
01:04:10.000 We obviously need to move back toward a more responsible America, where people take individual responsibility, because in the end, freedom relies on a belief in individual responsibility.
01:04:20.000 Okay, folks, we've reached the weekend.
01:04:21.000 We'll see what Hillary Clinton has to say about the alt-right, and we will carry on through the weekend, and then see you on Monday.
01:04:27.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
01:04:27.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.