The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 174 - The Left Should Sit Next To Kaepernick For The National Anthem

00:00:00.000 So last week, the left lost its mind because the price of EpiPens skyrocketed.

00:00:04.000 EpiPens are these things that you use if you have a bee sting and you go into anaphylactic shock.

00:00:08.000 Hillary Clinton quickly jumped on the story.

00:00:10.000 She characterized it as a failure of capitalism.

00:00:13.000 She said, quote, millions of Americans with severe reactions rely on their EpiPens.

00:00:17.000 Over the last several years, Mylan Pharmaceuticals has increased the price of EpiPens by more than 400%.

00:00:23.000 That's outrageous, and it's just the latest troubling example of a company taking advantage of its consumers.

00:00:28.000 Naturally, as always, Hillary called for more regulation. 1.00

00:00:31.000 But there's a reason EpiPens have skyrocketed in price, and it's not because the company is super duper mean to little kids who suffer from bee stings.

00:00:38.000 Here are the two real reasons why EpiPens got so expensive so fast.

00:00:42.000 First, insurance coverage masked the increase.

00:00:44.000 So insurers and employers typically negotiate with Mylan Pharmaceuticals over EpiPen prices.

00:00:49.000 That means end users didn't have any clue about the price increases until they lost their insurance or until their deductibles jumped.

00:00:56.000 So thanks, Obamacare, for forcing parents into position where they had to pay cash for the EpiPens or pay more for their insurance coverage.

00:01:03.000 Mylan has actually been giving coupons to consumers, customers, for co-payments on commercial insurance.

00:01:09.000 They've handed out 700,000 EpiPens to public schools for free.

00:01:12.000 But Obamacare has made people feel the pain via their insurance companies because now they have to buy the insurance or they have to pay a fine.

00:01:18.000 Mylan CEO Heather Bresch, who by the way is the daughter of a Democratic senator, says, quote, we recognize the significant burden on patients from continued rising insurance premiums and being forced to pay the full list price for medicines at the pharmacy counter.

00:01:31.000 So thanks, Obama.

00:01:32.000 Second reason. 0.91

00:01:33.000 The federal government prevents competition.

00:01:35.000 So EpiPen could only jack up prices because they have no competition in the marketplace.

00:01:38.000 EpiPen doesn't cost $600 in Europe.

00:01:41.000 That's weird that they were able to escape competition, given that epinephrine, which is the key component in the EpiPens, isn't patented.

00:01:49.000 It's been synthesized for well over a century.

00:01:51.000 In Europe, there are lots of competitors to the EpiPen.

00:01:53.000 But in the United States, the FDA has actually prevented competitors from entering the market.

00:01:58.000 The biggest competitor to EpiPen, which is called Adrenaclick, is barred from substitution for EpiPen in prescriptions.

00:02:03.000 So what that means is that if your doctor writes you on EpiPen, normally your pharmacist can give you the generic version.

00:02:09.000 They can't under law.

00:02:10.000 Obviously, EpiPen lobbies to prevent competition.

00:02:13.000 So far, they've succeeded.

00:02:14.000 The solution here isn't to create more government regulations that would ensure more competition in the insurance and medical device marketplace.

00:02:24.000 The solution is price controls, according to the left.

00:02:26.000 That would make availability of EpiPens lower, not higher.

00:02:29.000 In the end, it would destroy the marketplace altogether.

00:02:31.000 But that's what the government is good for.

00:02:32.000 The government doesn't create markets.

00:02:34.000 It doesn't create products.

00:02:35.000 All it does is create shortages, hire products, and tells you it's doing the bidding of the people while it does all of these things.

00:02:41.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:02:42.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

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00:04:25.000 Okay, so we begin today with the latest in Wienerville.

00:04:28.000 So, the Wiener Saga continues.

00:04:30.000 Uhuma has now cut off the wiener, and she is no longer wearing her wedding ring.

00:04:36.000 Which, again, I know all my ideas of romance died the minute they announced that they were breaking up.

00:04:41.000 Remember when Al Gore broke up with Tipper, and the media went nuts?

00:04:45.000 Oh my god, if Al Gore is breaking up with Tipper,

00:04:49.000 That means all romance is dead.

00:05:07.000 Oh my god, our ideas of romance, they're just at—okay, if your idea of romance was an arranged marriage officiated by Bill Clinton, let me recommend that you have a better idea of marriage and romance in the future, because come on, gang.

00:05:19.000 I mean, seriously.

00:05:21.000 Come on.

00:05:22.000 The left, though.

00:05:23.000 They've said we should all stop paying attention to Wiener Gate 2016.

00:05:26.000 We have to say Wiener Gate 2016 because that's what distinguishes it from Wiener Gate 2012 and Wiener Gate 2014.

00:05:31.000 But Wiener Gate 2016 is a whole new scandal.

00:05:36.000 And the Democrats are saying we should not pay any attention to Wiener Gate.

00:05:39.000 Wiener Gate must be ignored.

00:05:40.000 Ignore the wiener behind the curtain. 0.89

00:05:43.000 So, here is Jennifer Granholm, who's legitimately one of the crazier women in politics. 1.00

00:05:47.000 I mean, she is completely nuts. 1.00

00:05:49.000 She's the one who was waving her arms like a shrieking banshee at the DNC back in 2012. 1.00

00:05:53.000 And she says it's time to respect Huma Abedin's privacy.

00:05:58.000 I mean, I think that Donald Trump and everyone else should respect the privacy of Huma Abedin, who is, as you know, an utterly graceful, wonderful human being who's going through a terrible situation and who's tried to keep her marriage together.

00:06:14.000 So I say let us respect their privacy.

00:06:16.000 That is nonsense about classified information.

00:06:19.000 Okay, so what Trump had said that bothered her is he said that it's upsetting when you have somebody who is susceptible to being blackmailed over this sort of stuff so close to classified information.

00:06:30.000 Okay, it's not the world's strongest argument, but it ain't the end of the world.

00:06:32.000 I mean, Democrats have been making this argument for years and years and years.

00:06:36.000 But the Democrats have decided the bad guy. 0.98

00:06:38.000 So Anthony Weiner texts his junk to other people. 0.97

00:06:40.000 Huma Abedin has basically a sham marriage with Anthony Weiner for several years. 1.00

00:06:44.000 Anthony Weiner, by the way, was texting that to his paramour online.

00:06:47.000 He was saying, yeah, we have a broken marriage, a sham marriage for the last several years.

00:06:51.000 But the real person at fault here in all of this is not Wiener and it's not Houma.

00:06:57.000 It's actually Donald Trump.

00:06:58.000 Donald Trump is the bad guy here. 0.99

00:07:00.000 This is all silly towns. 0.99

00:07:01.000 I mean, the real person at fault is, of course, Anthony Wiener. 0.92

00:07:05.000 And again, if you were surprised by this, then that's because you haven't been watching the news for the last six years or so.

00:07:11.000 I also want to make one more point on this, and that is that Jennifer Granholm said, oh, it's all personal.

00:07:14.000 It's so private.

00:07:15.000 It's personal and private.

00:07:17.000 According to the left, personal and private don't really exist anymore.

00:07:20.000 The personal is political.

00:07:22.000 Every person on the right who's ever done something that the left doesn't approve of in their personal life is outed and shamed and their career destroyed.

00:07:29.000 Every single person.

00:07:30.000 When someone on the left does something that is really kind of gross,

00:07:34.000 And we talk about it?

00:07:35.000 Then it's, oh, their personal life.

00:07:36.000 You can't touch their personal life.

00:07:37.000 How dare you?

00:07:38.000 How dare you talk about the deep personal relationship gap that now exists between Huma Abedin, a very public figure, and Anthony Weiner, another very public figure.

00:07:47.000 How dare you talk about such things?

00:07:48.000 You know, that's their private life.

00:07:50.000 The reason for this is because people on the left have no standards.

00:07:53.000 So if you have no social standards, it's very easy to say, oh, Denny Haster, look at that guy. 1.00

00:07:57.000 You know, he was having sex with, or at least allegedly molesting, high school boys back in the day until he's a hypocrite. 0.99

00:08:04.000 Mark Foley, he was nailing the pages. 1.00

00:08:06.000 He's a hypocrite. 0.99

00:08:07.000 But Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Huma Abedin, Anthony Weiner, they have no standards on sexual behavior, so how dare you? 1.00

00:08:13.000 How dare you call them out?

00:08:15.000 What this does, it leads everybody to have no standards. 0.98

00:08:18.000 If you have no standards on sexual behavior, if you don't stand up for any standard on sexual behavior, then you can never be called a hypocrite. 0.98

00:08:25.000 Donald Trump is not called a hypocrite on sexual behavior because he has no standards on sexual behavior. 0.98

00:08:29.000 This is the way that the left is capable 0.86

00:08:32.000 of destroying standards for an entire society on the basis of a few scandals.

00:08:36.000 So here's my rule.

00:08:37.000 If it's news for one side, it's news for the other. 0.97

00:08:39.000 If Steve Bannon getting into an altercation with his ex-wife is front page news at the New York Post, then it's also front page news at the New York Post that Anthony Weiner was sexting his junk to women across the country.

00:08:53.000 The left doesn't get to claim that the personal is political, except when it applies to the left, in which case the personal is personal.

00:08:59.000 Also worth noting, for the left, what is personal has always been a very controversial subject.

00:09:05.000 I mean, now, I'm supposed to pay for a woman's abortion. 1.00

00:09:08.000 That's not personal.

00:09:09.000 I'm supposed to pay for it.

00:09:10.000 That's in their platform.

00:09:11.000 It's supposed to be publicly funded abortion. 1.00

00:09:13.000 I was under the impression that that was, at least according to the Democrats, a private decision, but now I have to pay for it.

00:09:18.000 I have to pay for Sandra Fluck's contraceptive care. 1.00

00:09:20.000 I'm supposed to do all these things because the personal is no longer personal, the private is no longer private.

00:09:25.000 It's my business to pay for all the stuff you do, but it's not my business what you do.

00:09:30.000 That simply doesn't wash.

00:09:31.000 If it's all of our business that we have to pay for everybody else's sex lives, then if their sex lives become the news story, that's just the way that it goes. 0.90

00:09:39.000 But the defenses of the Clintons and the Wieners are rolling on. 0.96

00:09:41.000 And Joan Walsh, who's legitimately one of the nuttier people in politics, she's over at Salon.com, she was on MSNBC the other day, and she's saying that Donald Trump is not just a bad guy because of Huma Abedin, she's saying Donald Trump is bad because he's questioning the health of Hillary Clinton, which shows that he's a vicious, vicious sexist. 0.85

00:09:59.000 What did Paul Ryan call the classic definition of a racist comment? 0.90

00:10:02.000 This is the classic definition of sexism.

00:10:05.000 You know, men, bad men...

00:10:08.000 Men have basically said for centuries that women can't handle the rigors of most jobs, but most importantly the presidency, because our tiny little lady brains and, you know, our proclivity to hysteria and exhaustion just disqualify us from leading the free world. 1.00

00:10:27.000 Well, as no one has ever said that except for Joan Walsh just now, I'm wondering where she got the whole Donald Trump says that lady brains are incapable of functioning at high level. 0.99

00:10:35.000 If her point here is that lady brains are capable of functioning at high level, perhaps she could provide us with a better example next time she's on television. 1.00

00:10:42.000 Okay, in other news, the Colin Kaepernick scandal continues to play out.

00:10:45.000 So the left, you know, the left has trouble with the Colin Kaepernick situation. 0.94

00:10:49.000 Colin Kaepernick is, of course, the really crappy quarterback.

00:10:52.000 For the San Francisco 49ers. 0.98

00:10:55.000 He is not good at what he does and he was sitting down for the national anthem, made a big deal out of it.

00:10:58.000 We talked about this yesterday.

00:11:00.000 Now the media are starting to just worship at Kaepernick's altar.

00:11:03.000 Kaepernick is a brave man.

00:11:04.000 He's a wonderful man.

00:11:05.000 He's just a great, brave, wonderful man.

00:11:08.000 What a wonderful, wonderful guy.

00:11:09.000 And they've trotted out all the usual suspects in order to talk about how brave Colin Kaepernick is.

00:11:13.000 So they've got Spike Lee out there.

00:11:14.000 Spike Lee, who's legitimately a racist.

00:11:16.000 I mean, Spike Lee, he says that he stares daggers at interracial couples. 0.99

00:11:20.000 Spike Lee is very, very upset that Harlem has gentrified, so it's no longer a crap hole. 0.97

00:11:24.000 Now Harlem actually has people there who have money. 0.89

00:11:26.000 They're actual investors in businesses moving in, making lives better around the community.

00:11:30.000 Spike Lee opposes that.

00:11:31.000 Colin Kaepernick says that, Spike Lee says Colin Kaepernick is just like Muhammad Ali,

00:11:36.000 What a wonderful guy Colin Kaepernick is, and of course he's wearing the Malcolm X t-shirt, he made the movie X with Denzel Washington, but it is worth noting that for large swaths of the black community, for all of the homage paid to Martin Luther King, in the eyes of a lot of people on the left, Malcolm X actually won.

00:11:51.000 The racial polarization of early Malcolm X, not the pre-Islamic conversion when he decided to be peaceful, the kind of early Malcolm X, Nation of Islam Malcolm X,

00:12:00.000 There are people like Spike Lee who still believe in that vision of Malcolm X, the kind of racial polarization, America's a terrible place and needs to be torn out by the root.

00:12:08.000 Here's Spike Lee talking about how Colin Kaepernick is a hero for not standing up for the national anthem.

00:12:13.000 Muhammad Ali was the most hated person in America.

00:12:17.000 He couldn't box in America.

00:12:18.000 Muhammad Ali, people love, is him lighting the torch with his arms shaking.

00:12:24.000 They should understand in what tradition, the history,

00:12:30.000 of why Colin did this.

00:12:35.000 Okay, the reason Colin did this is because he's going to get cut in a week.

00:12:38.000 And so when he gets cut, he wants people to think that it was because he was really having a tough time with the racial controversy, not because he's a super crappy quarterback.

00:12:47.000 But I want to point out something, and that is that the left actually believes in what Colin Kaepernick is saying.

00:12:52.000 And Donald Trump had a response to Colin Kaepernick that I thought was ill-calibrated.

00:12:55.000 It was ill-calibrated.

00:12:56.000 I think a lot of people had this gut response, but it was an ill-calibrated response.

00:13:00.000 Trump came out and he said, look, if Colin Kaepernick hates the country so much, he can take off any time.

00:13:04.000 And I think that's a lot of people's gut reaction.

00:13:06.000 The reason I say that that's not a credible intellectual response is we all have criticisms of how the country is run.

00:13:12.000 We all have criticisms of various policies that affect us in our daily lives.

00:13:16.000 That doesn't mean you love it or leave it.

00:13:18.000 It does mean that his criticisms are unfounded.

00:13:21.000 It does mean that Colin Kaepernick, if he truly cared about young black people, he could do more than mouthing off and sitting on a bench.

00:13:27.000 He could actually go out there and encourage young black people to, for example, finish high school, get a job, and not have babies out of wedlock.

00:13:33.000 That would be a much better use of his time, as opposed to ripping on the cops.

00:13:36.000 But the left has decided that Colin Kaepernick is the new racial hero.

00:13:40.000 ESPN's Max Kellerman, who, as I've said, is just an awful host.

00:13:43.000 He's on one of the local stations out here in LA, and he's legitimately the worst host on radio.

00:13:47.000 He does a show called Max and Marcella's, which, if you can imagine a dental drill but in your ear,

00:13:54.000 That is what that show is.

00:13:56.000 Max Kellerman was on TV and he's talking about... It is amazing how Max Kellerman is able to get away with... He drops into black dialect every so often on the show. 0.99

00:14:04.000 And it's really weird.

00:14:05.000 And it's amazing how he's able to get away with it because he's of the left.

00:14:07.000 But here's Max Kellerman talking about Kaepernick.

00:14:10.000 Instead of America, love it or leave it. 0.92

00:14:13.000 How about America, love it, so change it.

00:14:17.000 That's been the history of our country.

00:14:20.000 Those who really love America have consistently changed it for the better.

00:14:25.000 Okay, so he says, and I think that that's correct, that you can have criticisms of America without leaving America, and so the love it or leave it idea is, it can be used both ways, which is why I don't like that argument.

00:14:36.000 But here's the thing.

00:14:37.000 I don't even think folks on the left love America.

00:14:40.000 I don't.

00:14:41.000 I don't know what they love about America.

00:14:42.000 They think America not only is a terrible place, but that it was founded in this original sin of racism.

00:14:46.000 See, the narrative of America, according to Howard Zinn, is basically that America was born in sin, it was created in sin, and never escaped that sin. 0.52

00:14:53.000 So a bunch of evil white guys got together and decided they didn't want to be ruled by a bunch of other evil white guys, and they decided they were going to enshrine a system to protect their own property rights, and they were going to allow slavery to continue in the United States for another 80 years because they wanted to make sure that they were rich and privileged, 0.87

00:15:09.000 Over the poor minorities as well as the poor whites. 0.97

00:15:13.000 And then we had 80 years of slavery.

00:15:15.000 And then we had the Civil War, which was for a few minutes an okay thing, but wasn't really fought over slavery anyway.

00:15:20.000 It was really fought over economic interests.

00:15:22.000 And then there was 100 years of Jim Crow, which was basically winged and nodded at by the federal government.

00:15:27.000 America's a bad place, founded in racism.

00:15:30.000 It's baked into our DNA, as President Obama likes to say.

00:15:33.000 Hillary Clinton has said sort of the same thing.

00:15:35.000 And so what I don't understand is why the left would be critical of Kaepernick even sitting for the anthem.

00:15:41.000 I don't know why they stand for the anthem.

00:15:42.000 You know, I made this comment to a lefty this morning.

00:15:46.000 I do a morning show out here in this leftist

00:15:48.000 Thank you.

00:16:06.000 If America love it, so change it is the definition of patriotic, then presumably bin Laden could have been a patriot, right?

00:16:13.000 He could love America and just want to change it by turning it into an Islamic caliphate. 1.00

00:16:17.000 And anyone who wants to change the country, at least at its root level, doesn't love the founding ideals.

00:16:23.000 And what do you love about America?

00:16:24.000 Its borders.

00:16:25.000 You like the scenery?

00:16:26.000 You have to be more specific.

00:16:27.000 What makes you a patriot?

00:16:29.000 What makes me a patriot is that I believe in the foundational philosophy of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States, limited government, individual liberty, individual responsibility, rights given by God.

00:16:40.000 That's what I love about the United States.

00:16:41.000 Those foundational principles, which we haven't always lived up to,

00:16:45.000 But which we have strived to live up to and gradually have recognized in some ways, in some very, very important ways, while losing it in other ways, like when it comes to government intervention in the economy and its crackdown on religious freedom.

00:16:56.000 At the same time that we've obviously expanded the beautiful ideas of the Constitution and Declaration to various minority groups, blacks and Hispanics and gays and Jews and women.

00:17:06.000 You know, as we've done all of that,

00:17:08.000 Which has been a wonderful, wonderful development.

00:17:11.000 We've receded in some ways with regard to the size and scope of government, which now is in your business all the time, every day, right?

00:17:17.000 I mean, that's just the fact of that.

00:17:19.000 But you can love the founding principles, which is what the flag was created to stand for.

00:17:24.000 I don't think that the left likes those principles very much.

00:17:26.000 They don't like limited government.

00:17:27.000 They don't like the idea of God-given rights.

00:17:29.000 You get your rights from government, according to the left.

00:17:31.000 Not from God.

00:17:32.000 They don't like the idea of individual responsibility.

00:17:34.000 We're all supposed to take corporate responsibility, collective responsibility for the individual's sin.

00:17:40.000 So I'm not sure why they stand for the anthem.

00:17:42.000 I'm really not.

00:17:43.000 I think they do it out of politics.

00:17:45.000 And here's the thing.

00:17:45.000 Most people know this.

00:17:46.000 Most people know this.

00:17:47.000 Harvard did a study.

00:17:49.000 In 2011.

00:17:49.000 And in this study, what they found was that the vast majority of people who actually go to a 4th of July march, like a 4th of July parade, end up moving toward the right.

00:18:01.000 They end up moving toward Republicans, even though the parades have no political content.

00:18:05.000 There's no political content there.

00:18:06.000 They end up moving to the right anyway, because when people swell to the flag, when people thrill to the idea of America, what they're thrilling to is the founding story, that story of a country founded in grand ideals that we haven't always lived up to, but we've lived up to better than any other country, and we've spread that liberty around the globe, ensured it for literally billions of people all over the planet over the course of history.

00:18:26.000 We've saved countless lives.

00:18:27.000 We've made life better for everyone inside the United States.

00:18:29.000 We're the most powerful, most free country in the history of the world.

00:18:32.000 That's what we love about it.

00:18:33.000 The left doesn't love those things.

00:18:35.000 The left sees us.

00:18:36.000 The left sees history.

00:18:38.000 This is why they call themselves progressive.

00:18:39.000 They see history as a continuous chain of improvements, but what that means is

00:18:45.000 That the founding principles were bad, and so we're improving those founding principles.

00:18:48.000 We're moving beyond that.

00:18:49.000 Barack Obama said this in his second inaugural address.

00:18:51.000 I thought it was the most ignored important line in history, in modern history.

00:18:56.000 He said, freedom means we don't all have to define liberty the same way.

00:19:00.000 Well, no, that's actually what we do have to define the same way.

00:19:02.000 That's the one thing we do have to define the same way.

00:19:04.000 If we don't define liberty the same way, then your liberty is my tyranny. 0.97

00:19:07.000 Because your liberty to get a cake from me ensures that you can cram down on me the ability to steal my cake for your gay wedding. 1.00

00:19:15.000 Your liberty to get health care means that you can force my wife, who's a doctor, to take care of you without paying her.

00:19:20.000 We have to define liberty the same way, or there's nothing else to talk about in the United States.

00:19:24.000 But the left doesn't like any of these principles, and so I ask the left, why don't you sit alongside Kaepernick?

00:19:29.000 I mean, that's really what you should do.

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00:20:17.000 So, while the media continue to target Donald Trump, and just over and over, Donald Trump, everything is about Trump, and we'll get to Trump in a little while.

00:20:24.000 We'll do a little bit of good Trump, bad Trump in just a minute.

00:20:27.000 I think it's important to point out that the Obama administration just continues to lie.

00:20:30.000 Like, they never, ever stop lying.

00:20:32.000 It is truly incredible.

00:20:33.000 So, John Kerry came out now, and it's amazing what they want from the media.

00:20:38.000 So the media's already on the side of the left, clearly.

00:20:41.000 The media already are siding with everything the left would want to do.

00:20:44.000 John Kerry, the man whose face is obviously suffering from some sort of internal collapse.

00:20:48.000 I mean, it looks like a mudslide in the San Fernando Hills.

00:20:51.000 John Kerry, he came out yesterday.

00:20:53.000 He was at a press gaggle in Dhaka, Bangladesh.

00:20:56.000 And he said that the media should stop covering terrorism.

00:20:59.000 He said, Remember this?

00:21:01.000 No country is immune from terrorism.

00:21:04.000 It's easy to terrorize.

00:21:06.000 Government and law enforcement have to be correct 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. 0.98

00:21:14.000 But if you decide one day you're going to be a terrorist, and you're willing to kill yourself, you can go out and kill some people. 0.93

00:21:22.000 You can make some noise. 0.99

00:21:24.000 Perhaps the media would do us all a service if they didn't cover it quite so much.

00:21:29.000 People wouldn't know what's going on.

00:21:40.000 He said that the media constantly overstate the threat of terrorism.

00:21:43.000 How about this?

00:21:43.000 How about you protect us from terrorism and then we won't have to talk about the threat?

00:21:47.000 How about that?

00:21:48.000 But it's always the media at fault.

00:21:49.000 Obama's been saying this for years.

00:21:50.000 The reason he's unpopular on Obamacare is because the media aren't telling the truth.

00:21:54.000 The media... So it's amazing.

00:21:56.000 The left can blame the media and the media just take it.

00:21:58.000 That's totally fine.

00:21:59.000 When the bright blame the media correctly, then all hell breaks loose.

00:22:02.000 Speaking of lies, Josh Earnest over at the White House, the press secretary, again, this guy has the most Dickensian name.

00:22:07.000 I mean, Dickens is famous for having, you know, names for people like Chuzzlewit for people who are confused in the head.

00:22:15.000 All of his names are very evocative of what the people are.

00:22:17.000 Josh Earnest is the most Dickensian name because he's the least earnest person on earth, but he fakes earnestness.

00:22:23.000 So here's Josh Earnest talking about how Obamacare is a massive success.

00:22:26.000 By the way, all the premiums are skyrocketing and the program is going bankrupt.

00:22:30.000 The vast majority of people all across the country will have access to a plan

00:22:37.000 That costs $75 a month or less.

00:22:40.000 And these are plans that are quality plans that meet a set of benchmarks that weren't previously available in an affordable way in the private insurance market.

00:22:50.000 Nope.

00:22:51.000 Nope.

00:22:52.000 So it turns out that about 10 to 11 percent of Americans are still without insurance plans.

00:22:57.000 The people he's talking about, the low-cost insurance plans, that's called Medicaid, gang.

00:23:00.000 He's not really talking about low-cost insurance plans.

00:23:02.000 I was talking to my nanny, and she buys her own insurance.

00:23:05.000 She's self-employed.

00:23:06.000 Or I employ her, but she's not.

00:23:09.000 I guess she's an independent contractor because she does other work for other people. 1.00

00:23:12.000 And she buys her own insurance plan.

00:23:15.000 And the insurance plan that she buys, she's spending, just for herself, $200 a month. 0.96

00:23:20.000 And she has a $75 copay every time she goes into the doctor.

00:23:23.000 And she's a healthy, you know, young woman.

00:23:26.000 She's probably in her early 40s.

00:23:27.000 That's not unusual.

00:23:28.000 The insurance plans, the premiums have jacked up everywhere.

00:23:31.000 But again, the lies must proceed.

00:23:33.000 And these lies must be crammed down on the American people.

00:23:35.000 So now, the Department of Justice, this one I love, the Department of Justice has released a video telling cops how they should deal with people.

00:23:42.000 They're actually telling cops that they need to treat people specially by asking them whether they are a man or a woman.

00:23:50.000 Make no assumptions.

00:23:52.000 Might be a man, might be a woman. 0.97

00:23:53.000 Here we go.

00:23:54.000 Your safety as an officer is always the first priority.

00:23:57.000 However, in order to be safe and effective, officers must be able to distinguish between a threat and a stereotype.

00:24:03.000 Driver's license and registration, please.

00:24:05.000 Yes, officer.

00:24:09.000 Is this your most current identification?

00:24:11.000 Yes, it is.

00:24:12.000 It needs to be updated.

00:24:13.000 Do you prefer if I call you ma'am or sir?

00:24:15.000 Ma'am, please.

00:24:17.000 When someone's name or gender on a license is different from what you expect, how do you react?

00:24:21.000 Is this person committing identity theft?

00:24:23.000 Are they a fugitive? 0.98

00:24:25.000 Possibly they're just transgender. 1.00

00:24:27.000 I don't have to be in the room with you to know what probably just happened.

00:24:30.000 Somebody just snickered, laughed, or made a joke.

00:24:32.000 Yep.

00:24:32.000 Trust me, I know.

00:24:33.000 I'm a cop too.

00:24:35.000 As police officers, we use humor to deal with things that make us uncomfortable or afraid.

00:24:39.000 Wait, I'm not- wait, hold on, what?

00:24:42.000 Sir, what were you doing?

00:24:43.000 Can you excuse us for a moment?

00:24:46.000 Just step up here for a minute.

00:24:51.000 Sal, what are you doing?

00:24:53.000 Don't let the fact that she's transgender throw you off, okay? 1.00

00:24:56.000 Show her the respect that she deserves.

00:24:58.000 You're right.

00:24:59.000 I'm sorry.

00:25:00.000 Okay, so let's show her that we're a professional agency and we'll go back out there and we'll start from the beginning.

00:25:04.000 Okay, I like the stilted dialogue.

00:25:05.000 That's my favorite part.

00:25:06.000 If officers understand who transgender people are as a part of their community, interactions can go a whole lot better.

00:25:13.000 Starting a dialogue and engaging proactively with transgender community members and community groups will be extremely helpful to your department now and in the future.

00:25:21.000 Okay, question.

00:25:22.000 Is it possible that it's identity theft?

00:25:24.000 I mean, like, they say that it's not identity theft because the person's clearly transgender, but aren't you judging them by their appearance then?

00:25:31.000 I thought that was the whole point, is that you can't judge people by their appearance.

00:25:33.000 By the way, what happens if the guy is just a dude?

00:25:36.000 Like, here you've got people who are dressed as ladies, but what happens if it's clearly a guy and he just says, no, I'm a woman. 0.98

00:25:41.000 I would prefer that you call me by ma'am.

00:25:43.000 And we're now having to cram down these notions of false identity because the government suggests that we have to engage in the subjective fantasies of people who have a mental illness.

00:25:54.000 It's just, it is amazing.

00:25:55.000 So these are the lies that the Obama administration wishes to cram down on people.

00:25:59.000 You know, obviously, the people who are snickering, the reason they're snickering there is because it's ridiculous that the government is trying to cram down this perception.

00:26:07.000 No one wants cops to snicker at people who have called for help.

00:26:12.000 But any sexual harassment video is inherently hilarious, even if the sexual harassment is not funny.

00:26:18.000 But if you've ever seen one of these, if the company's ever made you watch one of them, they're really, really funny. 0.97

00:26:22.000 Because it's always like, Bob, you shouldn't grab her butt! 0.97

00:26:25.000 Okay, yeah, Bill, don't laugh at the person who just called the cops to help out. 0.98

00:26:29.000 But also, it's not the end of the world if you call the person by their birth sex when it says on their license what their sex is.

00:26:36.000 All right.

00:26:37.000 Meanwhile, it's time for a little bit of Good Trump, Bad Trump.

00:26:41.000 So let's play the theme thanks, of course, to our good friend Brandon Snipes.

00:26:51.000 So, actually, over the past couple of days, we've gotten a fair bit of good Trump.

00:26:55.000 Today, unfortunately, is not one of those days.

00:26:57.000 So, tomorrow, Trump is supposed to give his big immigration speech, and nobody knows quite what to expect, including Donald Trump.

00:27:03.000 What I really am looking forward to, what I would like to see, is Donald Trump do—you remember when you were a kid, when I was a kid, we did this—we had these choose-your-own-adventure books?

00:27:14.000 You remember these things where you get to like page 16 and it would say, if you wish to go through the door, turn to page 35.

00:27:19.000 If you wish to kill the monster, turn to page 27.

00:27:23.000 Right? 0.97

00:27:23.000 I want Trump to do one of those speeches. 0.97

00:27:25.000 Like, I'd like for him to get to a point on teleprompter and then pull the audience.

00:27:28.000 And then if they go in one direction, then he just pulls up a different speech.

00:27:31.000 Like, you can just stop in the middle of the speech, you should go, so, what should we do with all of the illegal immigrants? 1.00

00:27:38.000 Raise your right hand if you want to deport them all, including the Muslims. 1.00

00:27:41.000 Raise your left hand if you want to make them all citizens and make one of them king.

00:27:45.000 And then people can raise their hands and then he'd just switch the speech out immediately and move on to choose your own adventure with Trump.

00:27:52.000 It is exciting to watch, I will say that.

00:27:55.000 So one of the things that I've claimed all along is that Donald Trump, and this is one of the reasons why I've opposed Trump even after the primaries, is that I feel like there are people who are selling out their principles in order to back Trump.

00:28:06.000 And again, you want to vote for Trump knowing full well what he is?

00:28:09.000 Your business.

00:28:10.000 I get it.

00:28:11.000 I understand the logic for the one millionth time.

00:28:14.000 I get it.

00:28:15.000 If, however, you are selling out your principles in order to back Trump, if you are saying everything that you thought was important is no longer important because Donald Trump must be supported, then I don't think it's any surprise when people think conservatism is Trumpism.

00:28:29.000 So Ann Coulter, who wrote this book, In Trump We Trust,

00:28:33.000 Trump basically did to Ann Coulter what God once did to Abraham.

00:28:39.000 He said, go up to the mountain and sacrifice your firstborn son.

00:28:43.000 So Trump went to Ann Coulter and he says, I need you to take your book and take it up to the top of the mountain.

00:28:48.000 I need you to take your immigration position and take it to the top of the mountain and sacrifice it. 1.00

00:28:52.000 Sacrifice it to me.

00:28:54.000 And Ann Coulter went,

00:28:56.000 All right.

00:28:56.000 And so Ann Coulter, she says, here I am.

00:28:59.000 So Ann Coulter, here she is saying that Donald Trump has been completely consistent on immigration from day one.

00:29:06.000 Quick note before we play it, quick note.

00:29:07.000 Yesterday, there were reports that Donald Trump was talking not about a physical wall, but a virtual wall that he's gonna build with Mexico, which will be virtually 10 feet higher every time he's insulted, and which Mexico will virtually pay for.

00:29:19.000 He's now walked that back.

00:29:20.000 He says, no, the wall's gonna be so real, so real it makes your head spin, realer than Melania's breasts. 0.59

00:29:25.000 But in any case, here's Ann Coulter talking about this.

00:29:29.000 Are we talking about deporting 11, 12 million people as he promised to do during the primaries?

00:29:34.000 No, I think he has been consistent really pretty much from day one that he's going to protect the borders and not dissolve, you know, American sovereignty.

00:29:45.000 Okay, so he hasn't changed at all.

00:29:47.000 At all.

00:29:49.000 Yes, he has.

00:29:51.000 Yes, he has.

00:29:52.000 And listen, I know how dearly Anne holds the issue of immigration.

00:29:55.000 I mean, I've been friends with her for a long time.

00:29:56.000 We've had this conversation at least a hundred times. 0.91

00:29:59.000 The idea that he hasn't shifted his position is silly.

00:30:01.000 If he comes out tomorrow and endorses Jeb Bush's plan, she's going to have some egg on her face.

00:30:07.000 And I understand what's driving her.

00:30:08.000 What's driving her is this belief that if the immigration cycle continues as it's been going, then America is over.

00:30:14.000 And she basically says that.

00:30:16.000 She basically says that we've turned America into a charity war.

00:30:19.000 That's her line. 0.88

00:30:19.000 Somehow Syria has become our problem. 0.88

00:30:21.000 I mean, if Latin America is America's problem, why isn't Europe taking care of Syria? 0.94

00:30:28.000 How did the entire world become our problem?

00:30:30.000 I don't see England and Germany reaching out to take refugees from Central America.

00:30:35.000 We've just turned our country into a charity ward when I think it's time to put Americans first.

00:30:40.000 And that is clearly Donald Trump's principle.

00:30:42.000 He fell for the nonsense about... I mean, he was being pushed in a question.

00:30:46.000 Being pushed, pushed, pushed.

00:30:47.000 What about the hard case?

00:30:50.000 Let's spend all of our time talking about the hard case and never develop a speeding law.

00:30:54.000 Just that one case of the man rushing his wife to a hospital and going 80 miles per hour in a 60 mile zone.

00:30:59.000 We'll deal with that.

00:31:01.000 We'll burn that bridge when we get to it, as I like to say.

00:31:03.000 Okay, so she's not wrong that America has become sort of the repository for all the bad things in the world.

00:31:09.000 It's also true that she is not averse to Donald Trump turning America itself into a charity ward for people who are born here.

00:31:13.000 I mean, Donald Trump is a big government guy who's basically said he's going to give handouts to everybody here.

00:31:18.000 But the point here is really not that.

00:31:20.000 The point here is that people like Ann Coulter, they've basically said that their principles are now secondary to their support for Trump.

00:31:26.000 And that has an impact.

00:31:27.000 That has an impact.

00:31:28.000 I'll tell you what the impact is.

00:31:29.000 Here's a real choice.

00:31:31.000 Here's the real analog.

00:31:31.000 I've been looking for a political analog for this election cycle for a while.

00:31:35.000 The choice that we basically have is, on the one hand, Jimmy Carter and Hillary Clinton.

00:31:39.000 On the other hand, at best, Herbert Hoover with Donald Trump.

00:31:43.000 That's the choice.

00:31:44.000 And so it's a real question.

00:31:45.000 Which did more damage to conservatism, Herbert Hoover or Jimmy Carter?

00:31:49.000 Jimmy Carter was a terrible president, did a lot of horrible things.

00:31:51.000 A lot of horrible things, some of which have ramifications for today, including the fall of the Shah in Iran, right?

00:31:56.000 He did a lot of terrible things, Jimmy Carter.

00:31:58.000 He also was so unpopular that he ended up preceding the greatest upsurge in conservatism in the modern era under Ronald Reagan.

00:32:06.000 On the other hand, you have Herbert Hoover.

00:32:10.000 Herbert Hoover was a bad president who proclaimed that he was conservative, and then after he left office, spent his time talking about conservatism.

00:32:18.000 But when he was in office, he actually imposed a very soft version of the New Deal.

00:32:23.000 So he blew out spending, he raised taxes, he increased tariffs.

00:32:27.000 He did all the things that FDR would come in and then triple down on.

00:32:31.000 And so people said, okay, well, conservatism is obviously the stuff that failed, and FDR is the stuff that succeeded, even though Hoover never sold them conservatism.

00:32:38.000 Hoover never presented conservatism.

00:32:40.000 And we're still sticking with the legacy.

00:32:42.000 We're still feeling the legacy of Herbert Hoover.

00:32:44.000 Every time Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton cite FDR, what they're really doing is slapping at the Herbert Hoover Republicans.

00:32:50.000 Saying your party are the people who opposed FDR.

00:32:52.000 Your party are the people of Herbert Hoover.

00:32:54.000 How many times have you... You still know Herbert Hoover's name because of what a bad president he was as a Republican.

00:32:59.000 So it's a real serious consideration.

00:33:01.000 Which is worse?

00:33:02.000 To have the guy who perverts conservatism and eats out its inners? 0.97

00:33:05.000 Or the guy who's just terrible, left, horrible, incompetent, does serious damage? 0.90

00:33:12.000 It's a real consideration.

00:33:14.000 The reason that Hoover was so damaging is not just because he was a bad president.

00:33:17.000 It's because so many people went along with Herbert Hoover because he was their guy.

00:33:21.000 You don't go along with people just because they're your guy, unless they represent your principles.

00:33:25.000 But I'm seeing that happen with too many people.

00:33:27.000 Now, Megyn Kelly had on Mike Huckabee, and she was correct.

00:33:30.000 I mean, she says to Mike Huckabee, why do you keep tweaking this issue?

00:33:34.000 Why do you keep flip-flopping?

00:33:35.000 Why can't you just stick with it?

00:33:36.000 The best one that we have is the one around San Diego.

00:33:39.000 It's the one that stopped illegal immigration by 90% since it was built.

00:33:43.000 It's been tremendous.

00:33:45.000 It's not only physical, it is also electronic.

00:33:48.000 So it's not an either-or, it's a both-and.

00:33:52.000 So what is the need to sort of come out and tweak the issue just as Trump is getting

00:33:58.000 Poked himself for softening the issue of what we're going to do with the 11 million illegal immigrants.

00:34:04.000 Is this all about outreach to so-called moderates or people who aren't already on the Trump train?

00:34:10.000 I don't think the surrogates are serving Donald Trump very well if they try to undermine his basic message, which is the wall.

00:34:16.000 But the bigger picture here, and I think a lot of people are losing sight of this, is that there is a real clear choice in the issue of immigration.

00:34:24.000 Donald Trump is going to build... And he's right, there is a choice in the issue of immigration.

00:34:28.000 Trump is going to be better than Hillary.

00:34:30.000 But this is always the last repository of Trump support.

00:34:33.000 In the end, it always comes back down to, he's not Hillary.

00:34:36.000 Again, that is his best argument.

00:34:37.000 That is his best argument.

00:34:38.000 But make that argument. 0.90

00:34:39.000 Don't make the he's wonderful on everything argument, because it's silly.

00:34:42.000 That part that Huckabee sang right at the end, that's exactly right.

00:34:45.000 There is a choice.

00:34:45.000 Bill Clinton, he's caught on tape talking about Syrian refugees coming to the United States, and listen to what he says here.

00:34:51.000 It's pretty incredible.

00:34:53.000 This is an enormous opportunity for Americans.

00:34:57.000 Detroit has 10,000 empty, structurally sound houses.

00:35:04.000 10,000.

00:35:06.000 And a lot of jobs to be had repairing those houses.

00:35:12.000 But Detroit just came out of bankruptcy and the mayor's trying to do an innovative sort of urban homesteading program there.

00:35:21.000 But it just gives you an example of what could be done.

00:35:25.000 And I think any of us who've ever had any personal experience with either Syrian Americans or Syrian refugees think it's a pretty good deal.

00:35:37.000 So he says we should send all the Syrian refugees to Detroit, which is really bad luck for the Syrian refugees.

00:35:43.000 I mean, out of the frying pan, into the fire, apparently.

00:35:45.000 But his idea that he's going to send these people to Detroit and that they're going to make Detroit a stronger, better place when Detroit has no tax base and no jobs in the first place, yes, there is a clear choice when it comes to immigration.

00:35:57.000 And that's what people should be harping on.

00:35:58.000 They shouldn't be harping on the fact that, on the idea that Donald Trump is some sort of consistent harbinger of conservatism.

00:36:04.000 He isn't.

00:36:05.000 He isn't.

00:36:05.000 Okay.

00:36:06.000 Time for some things that I like and then some things that I hate.

00:36:09.000 So, things that I like.

00:36:10.000 So, we were gonna do movies with bad scores that are good movies, but we decided to push that off because Gene Wilder died.

00:36:16.000 And this makes me sad.

00:36:17.000 Like, there are certain figures from your childhood where you remember watching all their movies and it just makes you sad even though you never knew the person.

00:36:22.000 I remember when Robin Williams committed suicide.

00:36:24.000 I remember it depressed me.

00:36:25.000 Like, I was very sad when Robin Williams died.

00:36:27.000 Because, you know, Aladdin and Hook and he was a fun character and you feel bad for him.

00:36:32.000 Gene Wilder lived a much fuller life.

00:36:34.000 I mean, he was 83 when he died.

00:36:35.000 Apparently, he died surrounded by family.

00:36:37.000 But one of the more likable people ever to appear on screen.

00:36:40.000 Well, this is my favorite Gene Wilder movie and I love a lot of Gene Wilder's work.

00:36:43.000 I mean, I think Blazing Saddles still holds up.

00:36:45.000 The New York Times doesn't because

00:36:47.000 It's politically incorrect, and they're politically correct, so they don't like it.

00:36:50.000 Blazing Saddles is still a hilarious movie, really, really funny.

00:36:54.000 He's obviously a classic in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

00:36:57.000 He's been in a lot of movies that are really great.

00:36:59.000 He's great, by the way, as kind of the kidnapped bank teller in Bonnie and Clyde.

00:37:06.000 But my personal favorite Gene Wilder movie is one that's not his best movie, but it's one that holds kind of a special place in my heart because of what it's about.

00:37:13.000 And it's called The Frisco Kid.

00:37:16.000 Very, very early Harrison Ford.

00:37:17.000 So Gene Wilder is in this movie with Harrison Ford, and Gene Wilder plays this Polish rabbi who comes to the United States, and he's traveling from New York to San Francisco in order to get married, and he's gonna be the rabbi of this town.

00:37:27.000 He's basically been thrown out of his Polish shtetl, out of his town, because he's kind of the ignoramus in the yeshiva, and he comes to the United States, and he's gonna cross country, and his stuff gets stolen from him, and he ends up hooking up with Harrison Ford, who's a robber, who's a bank robber.

00:37:41.000 Yeah.

00:37:58.000 Really labor-intensive.

00:37:59.000 So, Torah scrolls take years to write for a lot of people.

00:38:02.000 They're all handwritten.

00:38:03.000 If you mess up one letter in a Torah scroll, you actually have to tear out the entire sheet of the Torah scroll, and you have to replace it.

00:38:08.000 So, I mean, it's really labor-intensive and perfectionist-oriented, and he's supposed to be bringing the only Torah that this community is going to have on the West Coast, and the Indians, the Native Americans, want to take the Torah from him. 1.00

00:38:19.000 So here's a little bit of that scene.

00:38:21.000 Wonderful!

00:38:25.000 Wonderful and nice dancing.

00:38:28.000 Nice does not make rain.

00:38:30.000 Yes or no, can your god make rain?

00:38:32.000 Yes.

00:38:33.000 But he doesn't.

00:38:33.000 That's right.

00:38:34.000 Why?

00:38:35.000 Because that's not his department.

00:38:37.000 But if he wanted to, he could?

00:38:39.000 Yes!

00:38:39.000 What kind of a god do you have?

00:38:41.000 Don't say my gods.

00:38:43.000 Is your god too?

00:38:44.000 Don't give him to us.

00:38:45.000 We have enough troubles with our own gods.

00:38:47.000 But there's only one god!

00:38:48.000 What does he do?

00:38:51.000 He can do anything!

00:38:53.000 Then why can't he make rain?

00:38:56.000 Because he doesn't make rain!

00:38:58.000 He gives us strength when we're suffering.

00:39:01.000 He gives us compassion when all that we feel is hatred.

00:39:04.000 He gives us courage when we're searching around blindly like little mice in the darkness.

00:39:08.000 But he does not make rain!

00:39:12.000 Of course!

00:39:23.000 Sometimes, just like that, he'll change his mind.

00:39:30.000 It's a great movie.

00:39:31.000 It's a really funny movie.

00:39:32.000 There's a scene where, so one of the scenes that I was talking about is there's a scene where they literally threaten to torture him unless he turns over the Torah.

00:39:39.000 Like, they become very enamored of this new God who can make rain, and they try to take the Torah away from him, and he basically says, I'm willing to die before I turn this over to you.

00:39:47.000 It's really very moving.

00:39:48.000 For Jews like me, it's actually a very moving film, and there's some great scenes.

00:39:51.000 There's a scene where they're being chased by the posse because Harrison Ford is running away, and he refuses to ride a horse on Sabbath, because you're not allowed to ride a horse on Sabbath.

00:40:00.000 And so they're waiting for the sun to go down just behind the hills and then get on the horse.

00:40:04.000 It's a really good movie.

00:40:05.000 So the Frisco Kid with Gene Wilder and obviously we're all very, again, I don't know anybody who didn't like Gene Wilder's work.

00:40:11.000 Gene Wilder is just, he was great.

00:40:13.000 Okay, other things that I like.

00:40:14.000 So I have to admit, I find Alex Jones absolutely hilarious.

00:40:18.000 Not the way that he means to be, but Alex Jones, he was basically begging Hillary Clinton not to kill him.

00:40:25.000 To which Hillary Clinton said,

00:40:28.000 But he's begging Hillary Clinton not to kill him.

00:40:31.000 He's a conspiracy theorist. 0.98

00:40:32.000 He thinks Hillary Clinton kills lots of people. 0.99

00:40:34.000 And here is crazy, crazy Alex Jones. 0.97

00:40:37.000 It's time for Hillary Clinton to repent. 1.00

00:40:40.000 It's time for Hillary Clinton to stop the murder, to stop the killing, to stop licking her lips like Madeleine Albright and herself when they talk about all the dead kids. 0.98

00:40:50.000 I look at how you put in jihadis and al-Qaeda.

00:40:53.000 And I just think

00:41:08.000 And he continues along these lines and he asks her not to kill him.

00:41:12.000 First of all, whenever I listen to Alex Jones' voice, whenever I listen to him speak, it sounds like he tried to eat a Jew and it got stuck halfway down. 0.98

00:41:18.000 But Alex Jones is so full-blown crazy.

00:41:22.000 And the fact that Alex Jones is respected by people in the Trump campaign should be mildly troubling.

00:41:29.000 But I enjoy it nonetheless.

00:41:31.000 You have to enjoy it.

00:41:34.000 Why go to the circus if you're not going to watch the clowns?

00:41:36.000 I do have a soft spot in my heart for Alex Jones, I'll admit, because Alex Jones was on the night before me, or two nights before me, with Piers Morgan on gun control. 0.97

00:41:47.000 And this also was a famous interview, because Alex Jones started screaming like a nutcase, because he is crazy. 0.98

00:41:52.000 You can find tape of him screaming about gay frogs online, it's pretty easy, where he just starts screaming about the gay frogs! 1.00

00:41:58.000 It's pretty amusing, but he was on the night before with Piers Morgan, and he just starts screaming and threatening him. 0.99

00:42:03.000 They're talking about gun rights, and he's like, I need my guns to kill people like you! 0.99

00:42:07.000 It's really over the top. 0.99

00:42:09.000 That is a paraphrase, not a direct quote.

00:42:11.000 And Piers Morgan had me on a couple nights later, expecting me to be Alex Jones.

00:42:18.000 And needless to say, he was surprised when I was not.

00:42:20.000 OK, time for one more thing I like.

00:42:24.000 So Vladimir Putin, I think this is hilarious.

00:42:27.000 It's not really a thing I like, it's just really funny.

00:42:29.000 Vladimir Putin was apparently arrested in Florida for trespassing.

00:42:33.000 Here's what Vladimir Putin looked like.

00:42:35.000 Alright, Vladimir Putin is in the Palm Beach County Jail.

00:42:39.000 No, not the President of Russia.

00:42:41.000 It's this man who also apparently shares the same name with the Russian leader.

00:42:46.000 Putin was arrested August 21st at the public store in City Place.

00:42:50.000 Police say he kept going into the store to yell at customers.

00:42:54.000 Putin is charged with trespassing.

00:42:57.000 And when they freed him on bail, he invaded Ukraine. 0.65

00:42:59.000 So everything was just great.

00:43:01.000 I have a feeling, just my guess, his original name was not Vladimir Putin.

00:43:06.000 I don't think when he was born, his mom's name was like Janet Putin.

00:43:10.000 And she's like, I'm gonna name my son Vladimir.

00:43:12.000 For people who can't see, Vladimir Putin is a dreadlocked black guy in this photo.

00:43:17.000 So call me crazy, I don't think that that was his original name. 0.97

00:43:20.000 Okay, things that I hate.

00:43:22.000 So, and then we'll get to it.

00:43:27.000 Yes, there's our liner, I'm sorry.

00:43:29.000 And then we'll get to deconstructing the culture.

00:43:32.000 Okay, so things that I hate.

00:43:33.000 So Chris Brown has now pulled a gun on a woman again. 0.57

00:43:38.000 Not again, but he's the guy who beat the crap out of Rihanna, and everybody sort of treated him as though it was not a big deal.

00:43:45.000 Like, Rihanna made a big deal out of it, the media made a big deal, and then he came back and he made more songs, and it was cool.

00:43:50.000 Okay, but Chris Brown has now apparently, he's under investigation, police investigation, after he allegedly pulled a gun on a woman.

00:43:56.000 LAPD is investigating the assault case.

00:43:59.000 According to TMZ, the alleged incident went down early Tuesday morning in L.A.

00:44:04.000 We're told Chris and the woman were in a home where she claims that they argued and he pulled the gun.

00:44:08.000 The woman called 911, police responded and took a report, and Chris is the sole suspect.

00:44:13.000 He, of course, has gotten into fights with Drake and Frank Ocean, and he got into a fight with Rihanna that left her bruised.

00:44:20.000 It is amazing the sort of leeway that we'll grant to our artists.

00:44:23.000 It is truly amazing.

00:44:24.000 I mean, if somebody makes one song that you like, you're willing to overlook the fact that they were molesting little boys at Neverland Ranch.

00:44:31.000 And when they die, then we pretend that they were wonderful people.

00:44:34.000 And if you mention the fact that they were molesting little boys with Jesus juice at Neverland Ranch, then you're the bad guy for raining on the parade. 0.71

00:44:41.000 Chris Brown does, like, two good songs.

00:44:44.000 And he pulls guns on women, and everybody just sort of goes, oh, well, you know, that's Chris Brown. 0.74

00:44:49.000 It's amazing the standard to which we hold our entertainers, and it needs to rise.

00:44:53.000 Speaking of which, T.I., I guess he's a rapper, T.I., and he's very upset at Rudy Giuliani.

00:45:00.000 He's upset at Rudy Giuliani because Rudy Giuliani has said that Beyonce needs to stop ripping on the police, so T.I.

00:45:07.000 is now ripping on Rudy Giuliani.

00:45:09.000 Man, I wanted to ask you about Rudy Giuliani saying that Beyonce's VMA performance was a shame.

00:45:15.000 You know, how she addressed the Black Lives Matter issue.

00:45:18.000 $15, sir. 0.58

00:45:18.000 Who gives a f*** about what Rudy Giuliani says about music? 0.58

00:45:23.000 Who cares? 0.88

00:45:25.000 He's not an aficionado of music.

00:45:27.000 This isn't politics.

00:45:28.000 You need to worry about Trump's campaign.

00:45:30.000 He said he saved more black lives than anybody that was on the stage last night.

00:45:35.000 That's what Giuliani said.

00:45:37.000 It's $15.

00:45:38.000 I don't really, I'm not really as, I don't know, I guess if you mean by, you know, he also imprisoned so many unnecessarily, you know, so I think, you know, you have to count against the black lives he saved for the black lives he destroyed by imprisoning people for too long, taking them away from their families and breaking up homes. 0.62

00:45:59.000 But, I guess, tomato, tomato, depends on how you look at it, you know what I mean?

00:46:03.000 Tomato, tomato.

00:46:03.000 Okay, so one of the things I love about this particular clip,

00:46:07.000 is the immediate flip from, Rudy Giuliani shouldn't talk about music, he doesn't know anything about music, to, I know everything there is to know about Rudy Giuliani's crime policy in New York.

00:46:16.000 From T.I.

00:46:17.000 I mean it happens literally in a 30 second clip.

00:46:19.000 He goes to, now I'm going to talk in specific detail about Hillary Clinton's crime policy and why Rudy Giuliani's stop and frisk policy wrongfully imprisoned black people.

00:46:29.000 It is worth noting, by the way, that as a teenager, he was arrested several times for drug dealing.

00:46:35.000 He was originally known as Rubber Band Man, apparently, for wearing rubber bands around his wrist to denote wealth in terms of drugs.

00:46:41.000 So, I'm sure that he has a lot to say about innocent black people being arrested. 1.00

00:46:47.000 Okay, final thing I like, then we'll get to deconstructing the culture.

00:46:50.000 So, they've now released the full list of people on Dancing with the Stars, and Rick Perry is on Dancing with the Stars.

00:46:59.000 Okay, so there are a bunch of people on Dancing with the Stars.

00:47:02.000 Rick Perry is on Dancing with the Stars.

00:47:03.000 Ryan Lochte is on Dancing with the Stars.

00:47:05.000 Calvin Johnson is on Dancing with the Stars.

00:47:07.000 Vanilla Ice is on Dancing with the Stars.

00:47:09.000 Amber Rose is on Dancing with the Stars. 0.73

00:47:11.000 So, I will just point out, I have never watched an episode of Dancing with the Stars unless it was under duress with my wife sitting at my side in handcuffs chaining me to the couch.

00:47:21.000 That is almost entirely true.

00:47:26.000 But the fact that Rick Perry has moved from legit presidential candidate to reality TV star, maybe he thinks that his path is to become a reality TV star and then he can run for president again.

00:47:35.000 It seems like it worked out really well for Donald Trump, but it is sort of humiliating for a guy who was maybe the most successful governor in Texas history to be now on Dancing with the Stars shimmying it up with some nubile babe next to Ryan Lochte. 0.78

00:47:49.000 And you know, there's a double standard for the right and the left, by the way.

00:47:52.000 If it was a has-been Democrat politician, then it would be oh-so-charming.

00:47:56.000 If it's a Republican, then it's just laughable.

00:47:57.000 And they're gonna laugh at Rick Perry.

00:47:59.000 And the fact that he doesn't know that, to me, is kind of sad.

00:48:02.000 It's kind of sad.

00:48:03.000 But don't worry, he'll be the first one off.

00:48:05.000 They'll toss him off immediately because he's a Republican.

00:48:07.000 Okay, time for some Deconstructing the Culture because it is a Tuesday.

00:48:10.000 So, this week in Deconstructing the Culture,

00:48:14.000 There's a guy named Mike Posner.

00:48:15.000 Now, understand, you and I may be listening to this music at the same time for the first time, because I don't know any of this music.

00:48:23.000 Mike Posner has a song called I Took a Pill in Ibiza, and apparently it is about him literally taking a pill in Ibiza.

00:48:30.000 Here is the music video, and here is the song.

00:48:33.000 I took a pill in Ibiza, to show Avicii I was cool. 0.98

00:48:38.000 And when I finally got sober, felt ten years older, but fuck it, it was something to do. 0.99

00:48:43.000 We're good to go. 0.97

00:49:01.000 You don't wanna ride the bus like this Never knowing who to trust like this You don't wanna be stuck up on that stage singing Stuck up on that stage singing Oh, I know

00:49:16.000 Okay, I have to stop it because I'm gonna have nightmares.

00:49:21.000 I don't know what... Seriously, this music video has like this... for people who can't see and this is why you need to subscribe.

00:49:32.000 It's truly horrifying.

00:49:33.000 I'm afraid there's like this giant...

00:49:35.000 I don't know if it's a paper mache head.

00:49:37.000 It's like three feet tall.

00:49:39.000 That's supes creepy. 1.00

00:49:40.000 And it looks like he's going to lure children into the woods and then rape and murder them. 0.99

00:49:44.000 And it's in some sort of club and there are a bunch of good looking women dancing around this face. 1.00

00:49:50.000 I mean, I assume this isn't, tell me, somebody tell me this isn't what Mike Posner actually looks like.

00:49:53.000 This is actually like just a mock head, correct?

00:49:56.000 Okay, thank you.

00:49:57.000 Okay, because I don't want to be insulting if he has some sort of congenital defect or something, but this is actually not my... Okay, so it looks like what it is, which is something horrifying sitting in a club and a bunch of hot women dancing around it. 1.00

00:50:09.000 Now, it wouldn't be a music video in today's day and age without hot women dancing around something. 1.00

00:50:12.000 I mean, last week we had hot women dancing around construction sites. 1.00

00:50:16.000 It didn't look like they were capable of putting a hammer to a nail, but...

00:50:19.000 I mean, I don't think anyone was objecting to that, but in this case, you've got this creepy paper mache head with people dancing around.

00:50:26.000 I don't know what it's supposed to mean, maybe this is like his physical manifestation after he takes drugs.

00:50:30.000 For people who can't hear the lyrics, because the lyrics don't matter that much in songs like this, it's all about the rhythm and the tune, here is the actual lyric.

00:50:39.000 I took a pill in Ibiza to show Avicii I was cool.

00:50:42.000 I don't know who Avicii is, or what it is.

00:50:44.000 Oh, a DJ.

00:50:45.000 OK, whatever.

00:50:47.000 And when I finally got sober, felt 10 years older, but F it, it was something to do.

00:50:52.000 I'm living out in L.A., I drive sports cars just to prove I'm a real big baller because I made a million dollars, and I spent it on girls and shoes, which is obviously a wise investment strategy.

00:51:01.000 Which is why he needs to talk to our friends at Birchgold.

00:51:05.000 He says, but you really don't want to be high like me, never really knowing why like me.

00:51:09.000 You don't ever want to step off that rollercoaster and be all alone.

00:51:12.000 You don't want to ride the bus like this, never knowing who to trust like this.

00:51:15.000 You don't want to be stuck up on that stage singing.

00:51:17.000 Step up on that stage singing.

00:51:19.000 All I know are sad songs, sad songs, darling.

00:51:21.000 All I know are sad songs, sad songs.

00:51:23.000 Okay, so this is a theme that has become very prominent in pop.

00:51:27.000 In the last 15 years or so, where you see singers who are extraordinarily wealthy, extraordinarily successful, whining about their lives.

00:51:34.000 And I think Miley Cyrus did a song like this, where she talked about how it was really tough to be a celebrity.

00:51:38.000 I know Britney Spears did a song like this. 0.99

00:51:39.000 It was really rough to be a celebrity.

00:51:41.000 It's so tough and rough to be a celebrity. 0.93

00:51:43.000 Okay, the only reason we know about you is because you make crappy songs like this.

00:51:47.000 But there is an undertone here of something that's a little bit sad. 0.97

00:51:51.000 There's something hypocritical about this, first of all.

00:51:53.000 If you're making lots of money while singing this song on stage about how it's really hard making lots of money singing this song on stage, I have a solution.

00:52:03.000 Right?

00:52:04.000 You could just stop, you could put down the mic and you could leave and you could spare all of our eardrums and you could prevent me from having nightmares for the next week over your horrifying music video.

00:52:12.000 But you don't do that.

00:52:13.000 So what you're really saying is, the real undercurrent is, I'm really cool.

00:52:18.000 I'm really with it.

00:52:19.000 There's something, it's very broody.

00:52:20.000 There's something they do in pop and rock music, all these brooding guys.

00:52:23.000 I'm so broody, man.

00:52:24.000 I'm broody and I'm deep because I know that what I'm doing is empty.

00:52:27.000 But that's just what makes me deep.

00:52:29.000 So I'm empty but I'm deep.

00:52:30.000 But I'm deep because I know I'm empty because I'm deep. 1.00

00:52:33.000 They know you're just stupid. 1.00

00:52:35.000 But you're making a lot of money off being stupid, so I guess I can't blame you. 1.00

00:52:38.000 This sort of ethos, it actually is revealing. 1.00

00:52:42.000 If you actually took it seriously, there'd be something revealing here, which is that your lifestyle sucks because you have no values.

00:52:46.000 If you earn a million dollars and your first reaction is to spend it on girls and shoes, that's because you have no values.

00:52:51.000 If I had a million dollars, I would start investing it in real estate and give some charity.

00:52:55.000 Like, that's really where my money would go.

00:52:56.000 And I'd be doing that to build a financial future for my children.

00:52:59.000 But if you don't have kids, if you don't have a wife, if you don't have a plan for the future, if you don't have values, then of course you take the money and you blow it on things.

00:53:05.000 This is why young athletes who make tons of money, they're broke by the time they're 40.

00:53:09.000 If that.

00:53:10.000 Usually it's earlier.

00:53:12.000 This guy's saying that he's going around taking drugs to show people that he's cool, and his life is empty.

00:53:17.000 Well, I have an idea.

00:53:18.000 How about you make your life not empty?

00:53:20.000 How about you make your life meaningful, but then you undercut your own appeal?

00:53:22.000 Because in a post-God society, hipster cynicism is the new reality.

00:53:28.000 In a post-God society, if you are hip, that means that you have to be cynical about life.

00:53:32.000 Values are for squares.

00:53:33.000 Values are for people who aren't cool, who aren't with it. 0.95

00:53:36.000 And sure, you have no values, and now you're miserable.

00:53:38.000 And then you're surprised you're miserable, even though you have the money and you have the fame.

00:53:42.000 And the only path that you're providing to people is a path of misery because you're saying there's no God, there's no values, the only thing you can shoot for is the money and the fame, and I'm telling you that it's empty.

00:53:51.000 Well, congratulations, you're not saying anything new.

00:53:52.000 Solomon was saying this 3,000 years ago in the temple.

00:53:56.000 He was saying all is vanity.

00:53:58.000 So that message has been around a while, but at the very end of Ecclesiastes, Solomon says, okay, well that being the case, all you can cling to is God and what God wants from you.

00:54:09.000 That's all that you can cling to.

00:54:10.000 But we as a society have refused God and what God wants from us.

00:54:13.000 We've refused values.

00:54:14.000 We've refused building for the future.

00:54:16.000 Everything is about the temporary here and now.

00:54:18.000 And so all we can do is reward each other for being with it enough to recognize that our lives are empty.

00:54:24.000 And then we're surprised when more kids fall into it.

00:54:27.000 Well, why?

00:54:27.000 This is the height of cool.

00:54:29.000 Most kids who watch that, if they don't get nightmares, are thinking, OK, I could be the guy in the club with the hot girls, and that looks pretty good to me.

00:54:34.000 Even the guy who's complaining about it doesn't seem to be complaining about it enough to give up the lifestyle.

00:54:39.000 So that sort of nihilistic hipster cynicism that they earn money off of while promulgating the same lifestyle they're condemning, I find it really off-putting, and I think that it's a problem.

00:54:49.000 When he says, you don't want to be high like me,

00:54:52.000 When you glorify the lifestyle, then why wouldn't people want to be high like you?

00:54:55.000 You've provided no values alternative, and people like you rip down those values on a regular basis because those values require actual standards, and standards are by nature intolerant.

00:55:06.000 Okay, there's a bit of deconstructing the culture and a deep read on a very shallow song with a creepy bobble-headed clown.

00:55:12.000 So, there you have it.

00:55:13.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:55:14.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - August 30, 2016

Ep. 174 - The Left Should Sit Next To Kaepernick For The National Anthem

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