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00:00:11.000This stuff would be rejected as straining the bounds of credulity by any decent fiction editor.
00:00:16.000Which means it's difficult not to fall into the trap of believing that the immediate is the permanent.
00:00:21.000So six weeks ago, conventional wisdom, and this was my opinion too, was Donald Trump was absolutely going to get crushed.
00:00:26.000After all, he had demonstrated no capacity to control himself.
00:00:28.000He'd appointed the alt-right pandering new head of Breitbart to his campaign.
00:00:33.000He was trailing by double digits in a bevy of swing states.
00:00:35.000Then WikiLeaks started dumping material, and Hillary continued to flail over her emails, and then she went completely absent from the campaign trail, and then she called half of Trump's supporters deplorables, and then she died on camera.
00:00:46.000And Trump, meanwhile, began using a teleprompter and somebody changed his Twitter password and they duct taped his mouth shut at headquarters and everything looked better.
00:00:54.000Suddenly Trump's got all the momentum and he's got a bunch of positive polls to boot.
00:00:57.000We'll tell you about those in a little while.
00:00:59.000But while Trump recovered from his worst showing a few weeks back,
00:01:02.000There's a reason Hillary Clinton might not recover.
00:01:05.000She actually has to stop being Hillary Clinton.
00:01:07.000So Trump had to stop being Trump in order to gain in the polls.
00:01:09.000Hillary has to stop being Hillary in order to gain in the polls.
00:01:12.000But it was easier for Trump to stop being Trump.
00:01:14.000That's because Trump was defined in the public mind as a borderline nutjob, a crazy guy willing to say or do anything, a wild man.
00:01:22.000To stop being Trump merely required him to start reading from a script.
00:01:25.000So, like Shia LaBeouf, he got on message during the filming and saved his actual cannibalism for the off hours.
00:01:36.000That's mainly because she's corrupt and dishonest.
00:01:38.000To stop being Hillary, she has to stop being corrupt and dishonest.
00:01:41.000It's easier to feign sobriety and decency than it is to feign truthfulness.
00:01:45.000Even when Hillary tells the truth these days, it still sounds like she's lying, and there's no way for her to escape herself.
00:01:51.000This is the cruel reality of politics.
00:01:53.000Political standards operate exactly like personal standards.
00:01:56.000If you have a family member who's an alcoholic, homeless person, and if he drives out and goes to a halfway house, he's a success now to you.
00:02:03.000If you have another relative who's a vice president at a bank, makes a million bucks a year, and he blows 15 grand in Vegas, he's a giant failure that week.
00:02:10.000Objectively, the alcoholic ranks lower on the humans you'd trust with your children scale than the VP at Chase Manhattan, probably.
00:02:16.000But you're holding them to different standards, because this is what we all do.
00:02:20.000If he acts like a rational human, he's won.
00:02:22.000But Hillary has to overcome her serious trust issues.
00:02:25.000And as Ted Cruz learned, it's really, really hard to shake the untrustworthy label once somebody has applied it, even if you're not actually untrustworthy.
00:02:33.000Which means that Hillary has a serious, lasting problem here.
00:02:49.000Okay, so first of all, we have a lot to get to today, like tons to get to today.
00:02:52.000We'll get to the mailbag later on in the show.
00:02:54.000We have an epic Stuff I Hate segment coming up, and we're going to talk about everything from Hillary's health records to Newt Gingrich saying some pretty ridiculous things on national TV.
00:03:03.000We'll get to all of that in just a moment, but first, we have to say hello
00:04:32.000So I want to start off with continuing questions about Hillary's health.
00:04:36.000So Hillary finally releases a letter from her physician.
00:04:39.000By the way, Harambee has also released a letter from his physician, says that Harambee had a head cold and got a shot.
00:04:45.000But in any case, Hillary has released a letter now, and this letter is from her doctor, Lisa Bardach, who's the diplomat of the American Board of Internal Medicine and the chair of internal medicine at Caramount Medical, and they basically say she's fine.
00:05:15.000What the letter says is that she has recurrent blood testing for Coumadin dosing and adjustments.
00:05:18.000That's stuff that's blood thinner, basically, to prevent blood clots, because remember, she had the blood clot in her brain a little while ago.
00:05:24.000She says her blood levels have been relatively stable, which is a little vague.
00:05:27.000She's also had several allergy flares over the past year, which has been a typical pattern most of her life.
00:05:32.000In consultation with her allergist, she responded well to her medication adjustments.
00:05:36.000They say that in January, she developed sinusitis and an ear infection.
00:05:39.000She was treated with antibiotics and steroids.
00:05:41.000She had to be given a myringotomy tube placed in her left ear in January 2016.
00:06:12.000You can believe it, you cannot believe it.
00:06:13.000I tend to believe it just because I don't think doctors, you know, my wife is a doctor.
00:06:16.000I don't think doctors make a habit of lying about their patient's medical conditions publicly.
00:06:20.000Like, the doctor looks pretty bad if two weeks from now Hillary slumps over because it turns out that she had
00:06:25.000The Black Plague, and she's infected half the population of the United States before Randall Flagg shows up.
00:06:31.000Like, I just don't think that that's how this is gonna work.
00:06:33.000So, I tend to believe what's in here, which means, and this is the part about Hillary that's so incredible, and it's why she has a serious problem in this election.
00:06:40.000It means that Hillary actually was not lying, right?
00:06:43.000When Hillary said it was allergies and she was coughing her lungs up, the doctor says that was basically right.
00:06:48.000When she says she had pneumonia, yeah, she didn't reveal that on Friday, but
00:06:52.000She did have pneumonia, so she wasn't fibbing about that when she said it was overheat and dehydration.
00:07:01.000But even when Hillary tells the truth now, it sounds like she's lying because she's constantly covering up for things, constantly acting as though nothing bad is happening, constantly acting as though she's totally fine all the time.
00:07:13.000And this creates a massive opening for Donald Trump.
00:07:15.000So CNN's Sanjay Gupta, he said, you know, Hillary released this health document.
00:07:19.000This is not technically a release of medical records.
00:07:21.000But again, this is certainly not a release of medical records by any means.
00:07:27.000This is very similar in some ways to what we got July of last year.
00:07:40.000Donald Trump goes on Dr. Oz's show and he releases his records on Dr. Oz.
00:07:45.000So there was a lot of confusion yesterday.
00:07:46.000He said he wasn't going to release his records on Dr. Oz.
00:07:49.000At first he had said he was going to hand the records over to Dr. Oz and then Dr. Oz would reveal them to him, Maury Povich style, and presumably some snaggletoothed woman would walk out of the back because it was a paternity test too.
00:07:59.000But instead, what ends up happening is what you see here.
00:08:01.000If your health is as strong as it seems from your review of systems, why not share your medical records?
00:09:02.000So Trump was at a rally yesterday and Trump really is now, and here's where Trump almost can't help himself.
00:09:08.000This actually is a bit of a boo-boo by Trump.
00:09:10.000Trump in the middle of his campaign speech, he goes off teleprompter and he starts actually ripping on Hillary's health as opposed to her dishonesty after giving what looks like a bizarre come-hither look to the audience.
00:09:59.000You know, whatever she says her health is, I'm sure that's what her health is, but she's been dishonest in the past, and her dishonesty makes people not trust her.
00:10:06.000That's really what he should be saying.
00:10:08.000But, you know, I also think that it's noteworthy that he says, whenever I get up here and I perform.
00:10:13.000He's a presidential candidate, not a performer, but he still thinks of himself as a performer.
00:10:17.000Needless to say, Hillary has some serious problems.
00:10:19.000Everyone thinks she's lying about everything.
00:10:21.000To the point where Hillary was on TV yesterday, and she said she was transparent, and literally everyone in the room started laughing.
00:10:28.000I've worked very, very hard to be more transparent than not just my opponent, but really in a comparison to
00:10:41.000Uh, anybody who's run, you know, the medical information I've put out and we're going to put out more, meets and exceeds the standards that other presidential candidates, including President Obama and Mitt Romney and others have met.
00:10:56.000Okay, and here's the problem for Hillary.
00:10:58.000She might actually not be lying here, but she's always lying, so we have to assume she's lying.
00:11:03.000Somebody today said to me that maybe what we should do is we should put both of these candidates on a lie detector and find out who's lying more often.
00:11:08.000I said, the problem for Hillary is that in order for a lie detector test to actually work, there has to be a baseline, right?
00:11:14.000They have to be able to test the lies against something.
00:11:16.000So if you lie 100% of the time, there's nothing to test it against.
00:11:21.000If I ask you your name, and you just lie about your name, and that's the baseline, then everything else that you say that's a lie also looks like the truth.
00:11:29.000The media have not helped Hillary in this respect.
00:11:31.000By attempting to quash questions about Hillary's health instead of asking questions about Hillary's health, they've put themselves in a position of now covering for Hillary.
00:11:58.000With all this Hillary Clinton and all the pneumonia and all this stuff, I thought, well, let's get Drew to call in and just tell us how pneumonia works, what we should be looking out for.
00:12:09.000In Drew's mind, he cannot come on this podcast and speak about Hillary Clinton.
00:12:16.000I said, just come on and talk about pneumonia.
00:12:18.000We'll just talk about pneumonia, and then we'll do the Hillary Clinton math.
00:12:28.000And he does not want to risk those things.
00:12:31.000Okay, so that fact right there, the idea that Dr. Drew won't go on Adam Carolla's show and even talk about Hillary's health for fear of the backlash, that's pretty amazing stuff.
00:13:00.000He's got other ladies that he likes to talk to, or not talk to, as the case may be, other receptacles, other human humidors that he is more interested in chatting with.
00:13:10.000But Bill, yesterday, he goes out there and he says, Hillary just has the flu.
00:13:14.000We thought she had pneumonia, but he says the flu, right?
00:13:17.000It's a crazy time we live in, you know, when people think there's something unusual about getting the flu.
00:13:21.000Next time I check, millions of people were getting it every year.
00:13:26.000I don't know what happened to Bill Clinton.
00:13:47.000They haven't been in the same 30-mile proximity since the convention when he just stared at the giant balloons coming from the sky and thought about Dolly Parton.
00:13:54.000Bill went on to also cover up Hillary's email scandal.
00:13:58.000Again, the lack of honesty on the part of the Clintons is so astounding that even when Hillary is telling the truth, even if her doctor is telling the truth about her health, there's no way for anybody to tell that.
00:14:08.000After all the hullabaloo over this email deal,
00:14:14.000You know, for a year we were told this is the biggest problem since the end of World War II.
00:14:24.000Finally, the Washington Post, their everlasting credit, said, I think we've had about enough of this.
00:14:28.000Okay, but we haven't had enough of this.
00:14:31.000So again, they're covering up everything, and the Clinton Foundation is doing the same thing.
00:14:35.000The head of the Clinton Foundation, Donna Shalala, was on TV yesterday, and she was saying there was no impact that the Clinton Foundation was working hand-in-glove with the State Department in corrupt fashion.
00:15:36.000You lie this much, no one is going to believe you when the wolf is finally there.
00:15:40.000But when you tell the truth, when it turns out you actually did have pneumonia and it was just an allergy, then no one's going to believe you.
00:15:46.000And still people don't believe you, and the polls show that today.
00:15:48.000The polls, by the way, for Hillary Clinton are devastating.
00:15:50.000I mean, she is now hitting the panic button somewhere
00:15:53.000Joe Biden is just sitting in a corner crying to himself because if he were running, do you understand?
00:15:57.000I think it's important people understand this.
00:15:59.000Donald Trump is not soaring in the polls.
00:16:00.000He's at 42% against Hillary Clinton in the New York Times poll, which means they're tied.
00:16:04.000Okay, that's how bad Hillary Clinton is at this.
00:16:06.000Hillary Clinton is legitimately the worst candidate in American political history.
00:16:11.000Okay, I could find small children who could beat Donald Trump in an election, and it would not be hard for me to do it.
00:16:16.000I could find farm animals who would beat Donald Trump in an election.
00:16:19.000Diseased farm animals who would likely beat Donald Trump in an election.
00:16:22.000Hillary Clinton is going to lose to him because she's so terrible at all of this, which frankly to me is hilarious because she deserves all that.
00:16:29.000As you know, I am not a Donald Trump fan.
00:16:31.000We'll talk about that in a little while here.
00:16:33.000But that said, there will be something sweet and wonderful about Hillary lusting her entire life after the highest office in the land only to fall short to a TV
00:16:47.000This woman who's built her entire life around politics, shlonged out of it by a guy who decided to get into politics almost legitimately a minute and 45 seconds ago.
00:16:57.000Okay, we have to take a quick break for US Tax Shield.
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00:18:11.000So, one quick note before we have to run here.
00:18:14.000So, again, Hillary Clinton's dishonesty is so wild here that nothing she says can be believed, and it's almost impossible to overcome that.
00:18:23.000It's really difficult for a candidate to overcome that in any serious way, which means that now Hillary has to wait for Trump to fail.
00:18:40.000Trump is, when he's on teleprompter, as I said, all we need from Trump is to be Shia LaBeouf when he's reading from the script, not Shia LaBeouf when he's being thrown out of a Broadway musical for trying to eat the flesh off another human being.
00:18:53.000So if Trump can do that, if he can just stick to teleprompters, yesterday, for example, he drops this great line about Flint, Michigan.
00:19:00.000Do we have this Trump line from Flint?
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00:20:52.000So, as we've been talking about, Donald Trump is not conservative, right?
00:20:55.000I mean, the last couple of days, he unveils this maternity leave policy, which is a giant boondoggle for the left.
00:21:01.000It's definitely not a conservative policy.
00:21:03.000But the real reason, I think, that so many people are so loyal to Trump—really, the reason people are loyal to Trump has very little to do with Donald Trump's policy.
00:21:10.000I think the reason so many people are very loyal to Donald Trump is because they like Donald Trump's enemies, meaning that he has—the right people hate Donald Trump.
00:21:19.000The reason that, honestly, the reason that I get so much flack for not supporting Donald Trump is because people sort of assume that I would because I'm very, very conservative and because I really, really dislike Hillary Clinton and that's a major exaggeration, a major underestimation of how much I dislike Hillary Clinton.
00:21:34.000To say I majorly, majorly dislike her is a major underestimation of how much I dislike Hillary Clinton.
00:21:39.000People sort of assume that I was going to be on the Trump team, and so when I'm not, then they don't like that.
00:21:44.000It doesn't fit into the boxes they've created, which are the Trump enemies and the Trump friends, because I sort of fall into the Trump enemies category in the sense that I don't like him.
00:21:53.000This makes them puzzled and angry, and I get lots of emails about that, all of which is fine.
00:21:57.000But the real reason that most people who like Trump like Trump is because they despise his enemies.
00:22:03.000A lot of politics works this way, by the way.
00:22:05.000It's the reason why Hillary Clinton used the deplorables line.
00:22:07.000She's trying to suggest that the people who dislike her are the racist, sexist, bigot, homophobes, and that's why you should side with her.
00:22:13.000Trump is trying to suggest that the people who don't like him are the
00:22:16.000Pandering, polarizing, racist people of Black Lives Matter and the illegal immigrant groups that are pushing for more illegal immigration.
00:22:27.000He tries to say that in the media, all the people that the American people hate a lot, he's trying to say those are my enemies too.
00:22:33.000And every day, those people are showing up out of the woodwork.
00:22:37.000So, yesterday, Trump is speaking in Flint, Michigan, and he's speaking at a church.
00:22:40.000This pastor, apparently, black female pastor, she asked him to speak at this church, and as he's speaking, as he's speaking, this black female pastor shows up and tries to shut him down.
00:22:49.000Hillary failed on the economy, just like she's failed on foreign policy.
00:22:55.000Everything she touched didn't work out.
00:23:30.000If you invite a presidential candidate and then tell him he's not allowed to attack the other presidential candidate in the middle of his speech, it's super obnoxious.
00:23:43.000I noticed she was so nervous when she introduced me and she called NBC, ABC, you know ABC was up the owner of an NBC network and she said he owns ABC and we sort of smiled together backstage and when she got up to introduce me she was so nervous she was shaking and I said wow this is sort of strange and then she came up.
00:24:06.000So she had that in mind there's no question about it.
00:24:21.000Other people who are obviously targeting Trump.
00:24:23.000Vincente Fox, the former president of Mexico.
00:24:26.000He talks about Trump, and people look at this, normal Americans look at this, and they say, that guy ain't on my side, so why exactly shouldn't I be on Trump's side?
00:24:35.000Here is Vincente Fox and his mustache, which he apparently uses to dust after he does TV, talking about Donald Trump.
00:24:43.000And Mr. Trump's candidacy specifically remind you of any past demagogic candidates in Latin America?
00:24:52.000Absolutely yes, and we suffered from that all along the 20th century.
00:24:58.000Diego Chavez, the Kirchners, the Perons, demagoguery, populism, and I'm surprised that this nation is now going back to the old days of the
00:25:10.000Yes, some manufacturing jobs were lost, 30% in the last 10 years.
00:25:30.000He's not telling the truth, is that 95% growth on the new economy, on the new jobs, the quality jobs, which is what US Americans have here.
00:27:02.000Have you ever seen MSNBC bring on a Republican and say, so, tell me, which dictators does Hillary remind you of?
00:27:08.000But MSNBC brings on Vincente Fox and they say, which dictators does Donald Trump remind you of?
00:27:14.000And the media are just another group of people who really tick off the Trump supporters and should tick off the Trump supporters because the media are terrible.
00:27:30.000I did an interview with Brian Stelter at CNN, and I really ripped him a new one when he suggested there was no bias in the media against Donald Trump, because obviously there is.
00:27:39.000Now, the media are the least trusted group in America.
00:27:41.000There's a poll out today showing how much people hate the media, and they really, really dislike the media.
00:27:45.000The reason they dislike the media is because of stuff like this.
00:27:47.000Ivanka goes on TV, and immediately, the questioner starts sandbagging her with Donald Trump's nasty quotes about women.
00:27:56.000During an interview with Cosmopolitan, published Wednesday, Ivanka Trump abruptly stopped a Q&A after being asked about some of Donald Trump's past comments about childcare and maternity leave.
00:28:12.000In 2004, Donald Trump said that pregnancy is an inconvenient thing for a business.
00:28:17.000It's surprising to see this policy from him today.
00:28:20.000Can you talk a little about those comments and perhaps what has changed?
00:28:23.000Ivanka then responded, I think that you have a lot of negativity in these questions.
00:28:27.000I don't know how useful it is to spend too much time with you on this.
00:28:32.000We don't need the full report on it, but the bottom line is that she gets upset with Cosmo because Cosmo is asking questions with the quotes and it feels like a sandbagging.
00:28:39.000When's the last time somebody asked Hillary Clinton, you claim that sexual assault survivors should be believed, your husband sexually assaulted people?
00:28:49.000And so people rightly look at this stuff and they feel like Cosmo is out to get people because Cosmo is out to get people.
00:28:53.000Cosmo is such a lefty magazine that Cosmo had an article today about how the maternity leave policy, Trump's maternity leave policy, which I think stinks, but they said Trump's maternity leave policy is transphobic because only women get maternity leave.
00:29:08.000So what about men who think they're women?
00:29:56.000That doesn't sound, Andy, as the most healthiest and fit person.
00:30:01.000Well, Don, first look, he looks fantastic to me, and I'll tell you this, he is getting exercise in the sense that he's flying to two or three different states a day, and he walks these lines and shakes voters' hands.
00:30:28.000Trump makes a lot of the right enemies.
00:30:30.000He also makes enemies of people who are actual conservatives, so he has a lot of the wrong enemies.
00:30:35.000He has a habit of ticking people off, but he has a lot of the right enemies, and so people feel very loyal to him, and they feel like they're gonna follow him anywhere he wants to go.
00:30:42.000Anywhere he wants to go, they're absolutely willing to follow him.
00:30:53.000And so I don't want to beat the point to death.
00:30:55.000But after this maternity leave speech, there were a bunch of people on the right who pretended that this was conservative and that a new conservatism has to take the place of the old conservatism.
00:31:04.000Now, there's a bunch of people supposedly on the right who believe that this new conservatism, which really means
00:31:10.000This nationalist populism, this kind of Teddy Roosevelt progressive era populism, or this Pat Buchananite isolationism, or this Tom Tancredo-esque, this Tom Tancredo-esque closed border stuff, that that has to take precedence.
00:31:26.000There's a bunch of people who believe this.
00:31:27.000They're the people who celebrate the death of traditional conservatism.
00:31:30.000People like the alt-right, who actually hate traditional conservatism.
00:31:32.000The alt-right, for people who don't know, they just believe that Western civilization can only be preserved by the preservation of European ethnic majorities, and therefore, if we import too many people of the wrong color, then we are going to destroy Western civilization.
00:31:46.000They don't care about limited government, they don't believe in equal rights, they just believe in equal rights for people who are of a particular shade.
00:31:52.000Then there are the Buchananites, who believe a lot of Trump's policies, and they like everything Trump's saying, so when Trump says stuff that's anti-small government, they really don't care.
00:32:00.000And then there are reluctant conservatives, who seem to have surrendered to Trump.
00:32:04.000And here, I hate criticizing Rush Limbaugh, because I think Rush Limbaugh is truly one of the most important right-wing figures in modern American history.
00:32:12.000I think that if you look at Rush's impact before and after the 1994 Republican revolution, if you look at his impact during the Bush years, no one has been more impactful on the future of conservatism than Rush Limbaugh, and attempts to downplay him as just an entertainer miss the point with Rush.
00:32:27.000Rush said something yesterday that I find very disturbing and very disheartening.
00:32:30.000Here's what Rush said about Trump's maternity leave policy.
00:32:33.000We have two candidates representing two major parties.
00:33:13.000So if you look at Trump's plan for child care, maternity leave, elderly care, you can sit there and lament all day.
00:33:21.000Oh, gosh, see, this is exactly why we needed Cruz!
00:33:25.000We wouldn't even be mess—if it were Cruz, we wouldn't have to wade through all this maybe, if, or what stuff.
00:33:32.000We just have a 10% flat tax, put everybody under it and virtually get rid of all deductions and just end the government paying people to do this and not paying people to do that.
00:33:48.000Okay, and he went on to basically say, small government, the era of small government is dead.
00:33:52.000We have two parties, they're both big government parties now.
00:33:55.000And then he went on to basically say that Donald Trump's program was at least half conservative.
00:34:00.000If this is what has happened, I mean, this is a more honest take than Sean Hannity or Laura Ingraham, who keep saying that his maternity leave policy is actually conservative.
00:34:08.000But what Rush is saying is, at the very least, very disheartening.
00:34:12.000The suggestion seems to be, the era of small government is over, conservatism is over, perhaps we've already lost.
00:34:18.000Now, what's ironic about this is that back in the mid-2000s, there were people like George Will, who now opposed Trump, who's arguing exactly the same thing.
00:34:25.000He actually said in 2007 that Americans desire a strong government, a big government.
00:34:30.000I wrote at the time, this is back in 2007, Republicans therefore have a double task when it comes to economics, teaching and winning.
00:34:36.000But it seems like people have lost the desire to teach.
00:35:10.000They're basically saying, we need something new, because if we don't do something new, we're never going to win, ignoring the fact that the ideas are eternally true.
00:35:21.000I suppose you can shift to bad policy to win.
00:35:24.000But if you want to tell the truth, that's a priority to me.
00:35:27.000And if we're losing, it's because we're not educating enough people.
00:35:30.000It's because we've done a poor job educating people about what real priorities look like from a conservative point of view.
00:35:37.000Newt Gingrich, I thought, said one of the most ridiculous things that I've heard him say recently, and he's said a lot of ridiculous things recently.
00:35:42.000He said that people who aren't voting for Trump, these Never Trump people, first of all, I have to point out, before I even get to this comment, the amount of energy that these sort of Trump people are wasting on Never Trump people is insane.
00:36:27.000Either a guilty conscience, because they feel that they're being shamed in some way, like I'm telling them that they're doing something immoral for voting Trump, which again, I have not said.
00:36:35.000Or two, they actually don't want to talk about Trump, and so it's easier to talk about Trump's opponents.
00:36:40.000Again, it's easier to talk about the enemy, the Never Trumpers, than it is to talk about Trump's maternity leave policy.
00:36:45.000Here is Trump saying that Never Trump is in love with the past.
00:37:59.000He's bringing back Nelson Rockefeller conservatism, which is to say big government New York conservatism.
00:38:05.000He's bringing back Richard Nixon conservatism, which is to say weak on national security, because Richard Nixon was not strong on national security.
00:38:23.000I mean, really, this is maddening stuff, because the fact is that the whole point of being conservative is to conserve.
00:38:29.000How can you say, we want new ideas, and then your new ideas are a bunch of crappy old ideas that have never worked in the past, and the only reason they're working now is because you're running against legitimately the worst candidate in American history, and Hillary Clinton.
00:38:41.000Newt Gingrich blathering on about new ideas, and for him to impose the cast of the future, if these were such great winning ideas, why didn't he try it in 2012 and actually win something?
00:38:58.000If the new conservatism is Teddy Roosevelt's bureaucracy, if the new conservatism is Richard Nixon's racial strategy, if the new conservatism is all this nonsense rolled up into a ball and tied a bow around by Pat Buchanan, then I don't want any part of that.
00:39:13.000And it's hilarious to me that the new is exactly the same as the old.
00:39:18.000When was the last time we had a real conservative?
00:39:21.000Even Reagan was a big government blowout spending guy.
00:39:25.000He tried to rein in the spending, but Reagan was not a supremely small government.
00:39:29.000He talked in terms of small government, but you look at his record, the last truly, truly conservative candidate that we had all the way across the board was maybe Calvin Coolidge in 1924.
00:39:38.000It's been a long time since there's been a truly, fully conservative guy.
00:39:42.000Reagan was as conservative as we've had in the modern era.
00:39:45.000But Reagan still presided over a blowout spending.
00:39:48.000And that was because he had a Democrat Congress, but it's still true.
00:39:51.000But this idea that you have to just come along with the new, just leave this in the past, leave it all behind.
00:42:03.000So, first of all, I don't do this too often, but I had a special request from one of our listeners to give a happy birthday shoutout to Ricky Roxboro.
00:42:48.000The reason that I actually recommend the book, and I've read the book, and it's a very well expressed book,
00:42:54.000And obviously, I disagree with Clavin on his rationales for conversion to Christianity, as opposed to a revitalized belief in Western civilization based on Judeo-Christian values that springs not just from Christianity, but from the root of Christianity, Judaism.
00:43:09.000But the reason that I actually recommend Clavin's book to Jews is because I think that it's important that you realize what drives Jews away from Judaism.
00:43:15.000From that angle, it's a really interesting memoir.
00:43:17.000As an Orthodox Jew, it's really interesting, because the entire basis of the first part of Drew's book
00:43:22.000It's about how he didn't grow up in—he grew up in a household that was actively anti-Judaism.
00:43:27.000He grew up in a household where Judaism was considered an old country thing.
00:43:31.000It was considered something for the backward.
00:43:33.000His parents apparently were real strivers to kind of escape cultural Judaism and be seen as sort of the waspy middle class.
00:43:39.000And then they wanted him to have a bar mitzvah, and he thought, this is really hypocritical.
00:43:44.000They don't want me to be anywhere near the Jewish community, but I'm supposed to take all the money for saying stuff I don't believe and that I've been told not to believe?
00:43:51.000And so, I think that's fascinating, and I think that it's important to read for Jews, because I think it's important for you to understand, when you parent, the way that you parent has an impact on how your kid is going to see the religion in which you raise them.
00:44:03.000And if it's just cultural Judaism, if it's just you eat matzo ball soup every so often, or if it's just ethnic Judaism, you had a grandmother who died in the Holocaust, that ain't good enough.
00:44:11.000Your kids are not going to stick around, and they shouldn't stick around, because you're not giving them any reason to do so.
00:44:15.000Okay, another thing that I like, we're doing memoirs, as I mentioned.
00:44:18.000The memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant, these are frequently overlooked.
00:45:22.000He does an interview with Trent Dilfer, who's an NFL commentator, and Skip Bayless, as the honorary lefty on the show, he decides to go after Trent Dilfer.
00:45:31.000If you go to the place that you're telling a black man or a black woman, you should know your place and stay in it when you get to there.
00:46:56.000Because he said that it's a plantation mentality to say that Colin Kaepernick is an adult and a moron, is doing the wrong thing, is a racist, and hates cops.
00:47:07.000And if you tell him that he should sit down and shut up, he's a backup quarterback and he stinks at his job, so what do we even care what he has to say in the first place?
00:47:40.000She's the voice of one of the characters in Frozen, so naturally that means she likes killing babies.
00:47:44.000Because if you do a children's movie, that means that you like killing babies, apparently.
00:47:47.000So Kristen Bell has now done a new video in which she talks about motherhood and the pay gap, and also she's a big Planned Parenthood advocate.
00:47:58.000She did this for Huffington Post, which ugh.
00:48:01.000Is your company looking to maximize their output while cutting back on costs?
00:48:06.000Why outsource all your production to faraway countries like India, China, and Narnia, when we have the cheapest and best workforce right here in the good ol' U.S.
00:49:31.000So clearly she's being disadvantaged by the great bias against women in the workplace.
00:49:36.000As far as the idea that employers are interested in their employees, in their female employees, getting pregnant and then taking time off so we don't have to pay for them?
00:49:44.000No, because when they take the time off, we lose money.
00:50:26.000Companies are evil and they hate women.
00:50:29.000But if this were true, if they could pay women less, if they could disadvantage women, if they didn't give them birth control and then they get pregnant and we throw them out on the street and we beat them and all this nonsense, if that were true, there would be a company actually called Pink Sourcing and companies would call that company to hire all the women so they could pay them nothing.
00:50:45.000Is there a company called Pink Sourcing?
00:50:46.000No, she has to make a satire company called Pink Sourcing.
00:50:50.000And the reason it doesn't exist is because in the largest cities in America, women who have the same qualifications and the same marital status as men are paid more than men in the top 50 cities in the United States according to Time Magazine circa 2010.
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00:52:45.000I've been wondering at Hillary's statement she thought the C in email headers had something to do with alphabetizing or filing or something.
00:52:50.000My question is, did she ever wonder why emails were only being filed under C?
00:52:55.000Why was it that nothing was ever being filed under the other 25 letters of the alphabet?
00:52:58.000That seems like a pretty inefficient filing system.
00:53:01.000Thanks in advance for helping me make sense of Hillary's C files logic, Robert.
00:53:05.000Well, I think the reason, Robert, that Hillary thought that C was the only letter that appeared at the top
00:53:10.000Of the emails, I can't even make this joke, it turns out.
00:53:15.000I have a joke, but it's way too obscene for any sort of broadcast medium.
00:53:22.000By the way, if you're watching this live right now at dailywire.com, we're doing a new routine where if you actually message us during the show and you ask questions, then we will actually pop those up in real time and I can respond to you in real time, which is kind of cool.
00:53:59.000Okay, first of all, it depends on the state.
00:54:02.000So there are certain states where they have made it illegal for a Christian couple not to bake a cake for a gay couple, but not only for a gay couple, for a same-sex wedding.
00:54:11.000So Washington State, for example, a baker just got sued out of existence because they didn't want to participate in a same-sex wedding.
00:54:18.000It should not be illegal because I'm actually fully consistent on this.
00:54:21.000I don't think this is even a religion issue.
00:54:23.000I think that this is a freedom of association issue.
00:54:25.000I don't think I should have to serve you.
00:54:26.000I don't think you should have to serve me.
00:54:28.000And people always say to me things like, okay, well, if you walked in wearing your kippah and I refused to serve you, wouldn't you feel bad?
00:54:34.000And my answer is yes, and also you're allowed to do that.
00:54:37.000Lots of things in life make me feel bad, but facts don't care about your feelings, as I am fond of saying, and so I really don't care.
00:54:45.000Because it turns out that the market solves all this stuff.
00:54:47.000When it comes to free market economics, if somebody doesn't want to take my money, my money is just as green as anybody else's, and there are plenty of other people who are willing to take my cash.
00:54:56.000That's the real solution to discrimination in the marketplace, is other businesses competing and taking those dollars, which is why, for all the talk about
00:55:04.000Gays and lesbians being disadvantaged by the market system.
00:55:06.000I've yet to see a market system really disadvantaging gays and lesbians.
00:55:09.000We have gay and lesbian day at Disneyland and we do it.
00:55:11.000We have gay and lesbian days at the ballpark and we have specific gay and lesbian cruises where you really have to be gay and lesbian to go on the cruise.
00:55:17.000We have gay and lesbian retirement homes.
00:55:19.000There's a whole market that exists just for gay and lesbian people.
00:55:22.000So the idea that the market is disadvantaging gay people, and if the Christian baker doesn't want to associate with the gay couple, that they have to, it's just, it's silly towns to me, it doesn't make any sense, and it's a violation of freedom of association.
00:55:35.000Besides which, it's a violation of freedom.
00:55:36.000If the idea is you get to cram down on me your version of what society should look like, then I don't understand why Christians shouldn't get to cram down on you what their version of society should look like.
00:55:46.000How about we just agree not to cram down our versions of what society should look like on each other, and we leave each other the hell alone?
00:57:41.000Do you think we need to start forcing people to become adults again at a younger age?
00:57:45.000Yes, I absolutely think that people should be given responsibility at a younger age.
00:57:48.000And that doesn't mean that we have to throw people, that we have to throw people immediately into the workforce at age 16, but it does mean that we, that we have to start giving people personal responsibility and training them for how to balance a checkbook, how to have a bank account, how to take care of their siblings at a younger and younger age that they can become responsible human beings a lot younger.
00:58:06.000Scott says, Ben, do you think that stop and frisk violates the fourth amendment?
00:58:10.000I do not think stop-and-frisk violates the Fourth Amendment.
00:58:13.000Fourth Amendment is, and this is live, the reason that if stop-and-frisk doesn't violate the Fourth Amendment, and this is what the Supreme Court has said, I think they're right on this, is because the idea is unreasonable search and seizure is forbidden by the Constitution of the United States.
00:58:27.000The term is unreasonable search and seizure.
00:58:29.000So if there's a reason for it, in other words, if there's a rationale for it, if they spot a gun under your coat, they can stop and frisk you.
00:58:35.000If they just stop you for no reason and frisk you, that's a problem.
00:58:38.000Which, by the way, is why I think stop and frisk, if there's a reason for the frisk, is not necessarily unconstitutional.
00:58:44.000But what may be unconstitutional, in my opinion, is alcohol checkpoints.
00:58:48.000If they just stop every car that's coming along the road.
00:58:51.000It's possible it could be unconstitutional because you're forcing everybody to be stripped down and their luggage searched without any sort of reasonable suspicion.
00:59:01.000The way that the Supreme Court has gotten around that one is the Supreme Court has said it's a privilege to fly, it's not a right to fly.
00:59:16.000It's a lot of people who do this, for the same reason that a bunch of people from California flee to Texas and then vote for California's policies.
00:59:22.000People's politics is bound up more with what they think is right and wrong than what they think is effective and ineffective.
00:59:29.000So if you grow up in a system where they say the government is supposed to take care of you,
00:59:33.000Then you're going to come to a new place and you're still going to think the government is supposed to take care of you.
00:59:36.000This is what polls show for a lot of Hispanic immigrants to the United States.
00:59:40.000Overwhelmingly, they think that the government is obligated to take care of you if you're sick or if you're out of a job.
00:59:45.000They think that a big government with large social services is a moral good.
00:59:49.000Not that it's effective, but that it's a moral good.
00:59:52.000Also, I think that, you know, if you haven't lived under a fully communist system, I would guarantee you that people who are currently escaping from Venezuela are not going to be voting for Democrats anytime soon.
01:00:00.000The more extreme the system you lived under, the more you don't want to see anything that remotely resembles it in the next place you live.
01:00:06.000Rosemary is asking right now, Ben, what governors are worth watching for the next four years?
01:00:10.000Well, I think Greg Abbott is the one that comes top of the list.
01:00:13.000Greg Abbott of Texas is the one that comes to mind.
01:00:17.000I think Pat McCrory in North Carolina is a real tough hombre, and I think that he's taking a lot of crap, but he's doing a really good job in North Carolina.
01:00:26.000There are a few other governors who, their names escape me, but there are some up-and-comers for sure.
01:00:32.000Garrett writes, hey Ben, do you think it's possible to have a true conservative make it to the White House, or is PC culture so bad anyone that campaigns on real conservative values will eventually have to flip so he has a chance of winning the general?
01:00:44.000I do think the conservative values could win, but I think they have to be conservative values expressed concisely in moral terms.
01:00:51.000It can't be conservative values are just things like entitlement reform.
01:01:13.000Maybe we've moved beyond the era when a real conservative can win.
01:01:15.000I don't believe that's true because I don't think that it's been expressed correctly.
01:01:19.000I think the conservatives have done a very terrible job of naming the left and shaming the left and pointing out just how evil leftist ideology is.
01:01:26.000John is writing live, how far should the government go to protect the environment?
01:01:30.000And the answer is that the government should go far enough to protect the environment so that we don't all die.
01:01:35.000That's pretty much, I don't think that it's the government's job to get deeply involved in environmental issues that don't have externalities.
01:01:43.000So a lot of environmental issues do have externalities.
01:01:46.000If I'm polluting a river and somebody else lives downriver, that's an externality.
01:01:49.000If I'm polluting the air and other people are breathing the air, that's an externality and government regulation is probably necessary.
01:01:55.000But if you're talking about just preserving a wild land that nobody is ever going to visit at any point, and there are no real externalities, like they're doing to the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, for example, then the government doesn't really have a role in doing that.
01:02:07.000And the government certainly doesn't have a role in magically renaming things pollution that are not actually pollution, like saying that carbon pollution, carbon emissions, are something the government has to regulate.
01:02:17.000They don't have any legislative authority to do that.
01:02:39.000And I would suspect that it hasn't been widely reported in the United States because the Obama administration is busy catering to Putin, and so is Trump.
01:02:46.000So everybody's too busy catering to Putin to actually call out
01:02:49.000The things that he's doing that are egregious.
01:02:50.000Also, when you want to paint somebody as a right-wing ideologue, a right-wing fanatic, like they're trying to paint Putin, then the last thing you want to do is point out that he may actually be a leftist.
01:02:58.000I mean, the guy who worked for the KGB.
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