The Ben Shapiro Show - September 27, 2016


Ep. 187 - Fight Night: Hillary Lies, Trump Melts Down


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 5 minutes

Words per Minute

177.92314

Word Count

11,651

Sentence Count

908

Misogynist Sentences

44

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

Thanks to all of the pyrotechnics at the first presidential debate, and thanks to Donald Trump's Chernobyl-style meltdown over his IRS records and his business history, and the fact that he acted like a general baboon, it was easy to overlook the insane proposals put forward by Hillary Clinton. Hillary openly advocated some of the most radical propositions in American history. Here are six of them: 1. Profit sharing. 2. She wants to see more companies share in profits, not just the executives at the top. 3. She said basically everybody's racist. 4. Hillary said we should let all the criminals out of prison. 5. She claimed it contained Iran itself. 6. Hillary claimed it would have led to war if America blew an Iranian ship attempting to capture Americans out of the water. That's a lie too. And all I have to say is, what did you people do? What did God decide to do in secret that the nation would nominate two monkeys to be president? And who could screw the hardest? Because that's pretty much what it was last night. Don't worry, we'll go through it in detail in the next episode of The Ben Shapiro Show! Ben Shapiro - THE BONUS EPISODE of The BEN CHECKLIST! Subscribe to Ben Shapiro's new show on The BCR Podcast Subscribe on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices. Rate/subscribe to our new sponsor, review our new podcast, and become a supporter of our new show, Ben Shapiro s Unfiltered. Subscribe and Retweet Ben Shapiro is a Friend of the BCRYTZ! If you like what you're listening to us on social media? Subscribe, rate and review us on iTunes and subscribe to our podcast, rate us a review, review us a podcast, share our podcast and subscribe on your thoughts on your podcast, subscribe on iTunes, and tell us what s your favorite podcasting platform is your favorite streaming platform is going to be? or do you reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?? Thank you! - Ben Shapiro and Ben Shapiro, The BECAUSE I'm a Friended Ben Shapiro? - Thank you Ben Shapiro. - The BERRY NU CHEEEEEeee and I don't think so much of this is a good one? -- CHEER CHEERS!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Thanks to all of the pyrotechnics at the first presidential debate on Monday night, and thanks to Donald Trump's Chernobyl-style meltdown over his IRS records and his business history, his Iraq War position, and the fact that he acted like basically a general baboon, it was easy to overlook the insane proposals put forward by Hillary Clinton.
00:00:16.000 We shouldn't.
00:00:17.000 Hillary openly advocated some of the most radical propositions in American history.
00:00:21.000 Here are six of them.
00:00:22.000 First, profit sharing.
00:00:24.000 Hillary advocated, quote, making the economy fairer.
00:00:27.000 In promoting that stupid notion, it's stupid because mutually consensual exchange is by nature fair from any objective point of view, she pushed raising the national minimum wage, which would throw thousands of people out of work, and equal pay for women's work, which means unequal pay for the same work for men, but her truly insane line came next.
00:00:43.000 She said, quote,
00:00:44.000 I also want to see more companies do profit sharing.
00:00:47.000 If you help create the profits, you should be able to share in them, not just the executives at the top.
00:00:51.000 Now, many companies already have so-called profit sharing, you know, like owning stock benefits.
00:00:56.000 On a broad level, all companies have profit sharing.
00:00:58.000 You have continued employment because your company earns a profit.
00:01:01.000 You don't have a share of every dollar of profit because you presumably don't get dinged for every loss.
00:01:06.000 But Hillary seems to be advocating a full-scale government intervention into every business in America.
00:01:12.000 Let's do it!
00:01:27.000 I'm good.
00:01:43.000 Third, Hillary said basically everybody's racist.
00:01:45.000 She pushed the notion of implicit bias.
00:01:47.000 This is a new psychological buzzword pushed by the academic left saying that you're unconsciously biased, even if you don't know it, to explain why black people go to prison disproportionately.
00:01:56.000 She then suggested that everyone in America was racist.
00:01:59.000 Quote,
00:01:59.000 I think implicit bias is a problem for everyone, not just police, but when it comes to policing, since it can have literally fatal consequences, I have said in my first budget, we would put money into that budget to help us deal with implicit bias by retraining a lot of our police officers, unquote.
00:02:13.000 There are zero proven retraining programs regarding implicit bias, or even well-regarded studies suggesting the consistent impact of implicit bias on behavior.
00:02:22.000 Which is why no court in America will allow quote unquote evidence of implicit bias.
00:02:27.000 If everybody's a racist, there's no cure for racism, and that's a constant excuse for Democrats to claim America is evil.
00:02:33.000 Fourth, Hillary said we should let all the criminals out.
00:02:35.000 She said criminals should be let out of prison, and she said she wanted to end private prisons, presumably without building new ones.
00:02:41.000 She idiotically said private prisons create a structure where you have quote, a profit motivation to fill prison cells with young Americans.
00:02:47.000 Well, since the owners of private prisons don't do the policing, this makes no sense.
00:02:51.000 Fifth, Hillary said the Iran deal was awesome.
00:02:53.000 She kept praising it.
00:02:54.000 Over and over.
00:02:55.000 And over and over.
00:02:56.000 It's a garbage deal.
00:02:57.000 Hillary knows it.
00:02:58.000 She claimed it put a lid on the Iranian nuclear program.
00:03:00.000 That's a lie.
00:03:01.000 She claimed it contained Iran itself.
00:03:03.000 That's a lie.
00:03:04.000 She said it would have led to war if America blew an Iranian ship attempting to capture Americans out of the water.
00:03:09.000 That's a lie too.
00:03:10.000 Hillary pushed it forward anyway.
00:03:12.000 Finally, Hillary dropped a line that most people missed when she was slamming Trump for sexism.
00:03:16.000 She said,
00:03:23.000 Why is that controversial?
00:03:24.000 Should women make the same amount of money for less work?
00:03:27.000 Hillary is a far leftist.
00:03:28.000 Trump's inadequacies and stupidities don't change that fact, of course.
00:03:32.000 Her radicalism is certainly a true threat to the country.
00:03:34.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:03:35.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:03:41.000 Okay, so, yesterday was debate day, and boy oh boy, I was this close to hanging myself about 56 minutes in, but luckily for you, I watched the whole terrible thing.
00:03:51.000 And all I have to say is, what the hell did you people do?
00:03:56.000 What did you—what grave sins have you committed in secret that God decided to revenge himself on the nation thusly?
00:04:01.000 Why in the world would you on the Democrat side and you on the Republican side of the aisle decide to nominate two monkeys to engage in the proposition, who could screw the basketball hardest?
00:04:12.000 Because that's pretty much what it was last night.
00:04:15.000 Don't worry, we'll go through it in detail.
00:04:16.000 But first, first we have to say hello to our advertisers over at Framebridge.
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00:04:42.000 We're good.
00:05:02.000 All righty.
00:05:28.000 The debate.
00:05:29.000 Yes, it happened last night.
00:05:30.000 It took place.
00:05:32.000 And that's just more evidence that, you know, Benjamin Franklin supposedly once said that beer is evidence that God loves us.
00:05:39.000 This debate is evidence that God has abandoned the earth and has decided to take his talents to Miami.
00:05:46.000 So, in any case.
00:05:48.000 Let's jump right in.
00:05:48.000 So the first half hour, here's the overview.
00:05:51.000 First of all, we'll play the good Trump, bad Trump theme.
00:05:54.000 This was epic good Trump, bad Trump.
00:05:55.000 This was the ultimate episode of good Trump, bad Trump.
00:05:59.000 Thank you to Brandon Snipes for our theme song.
00:06:08.000 Alrighty, so, there was plenty.
00:06:11.000 There was plenty.
00:06:13.000 Okay, so, first half hour.
00:06:15.000 I thought, watching the first half hour, Donald Trump's going to be the President of the United States.
00:06:18.000 That's what I thought.
00:06:19.000 Donald Trump was taking it to her on every field imaginable, and then the wheels fell off.
00:06:26.000 Now, before we get into anything else, I'll give my quick overview, the debate grades.
00:06:31.000 I thought Trump was an A for the first, he was an A, strong A for the first 30 minutes, and then he was not just an F, he was a Z for most of the rest of the time.
00:06:38.000 Hillary Clinton always varies between a B and a C.
00:06:41.000 Not in terms of how corrupt and evil and how much of a liar she is.
00:06:44.000 She's all of those things.
00:06:45.000 But just in terms of performance.
00:06:47.000 Lester Holt, by the way, I thought was absolutely biased against Trump.
00:06:49.000 I think all the complaints about Lester Holt being biased were absolutely justified last night.
00:06:53.000 The questions that he asked were significantly harder for Trump than they were for Hillary Clinton.
00:06:57.000 He fact-checked Trump wrongly at least twice, as far as I'm aware.
00:07:02.000 And so that was really bad.
00:07:04.000 But this one's on Trump.
00:07:05.000 This one's on Trump.
00:07:06.000 Because first half hour, he's in full control.
00:07:09.000 We'll start, we'll play it right from the beginning.
00:07:10.000 You're going to get the most comprehensive coverage of this debate of anybody out there today.
00:07:15.000 And if we have to cut off in the middle, because you only see the first 15 minutes on Facebook, this is why you need to subscribe at dailywire.com for $8 a month and you get a free copy of Clavin's book.
00:07:23.000 But, in any case, let's jump in.
00:07:25.000 So, we start off the debate, Hillary walks on stage wearing Chairman Mao's favorite costume, and then Donald Trump walks out and he's wearing a blue tie, and Hillary Clinton leads off with this statement.
00:07:35.000 This is her statement for why she wants to be President of the United States.
00:07:39.000 I want us to invest in you.
00:07:41.000 I want us to invest in your future.
00:07:43.000 That means jobs in infrastructure, in advanced manufacturing, in innovation and technology, clean renewable energy, and small business, because most of the new jobs will come from small business.
00:07:55.000 We also have to make the economy fairer.
00:07:58.000 That starts with raising the national minimum wage, and also guarantee, finally, equal pay for women's work.
00:08:09.000 She dropped her normal line, it's super boring, here's a bunch of government programs I'm going to pay for, but really you're going to pay for them, and also I'm a woman, yay vaginas.
00:08:17.000 So that was her lead off.
00:08:19.000 And then, Donald Trump started.
00:08:21.000 And Donald Trump's opener was a lot stronger than Hillary Clinton's opener because he told a story.
00:08:25.000 Now, the story he's about to tell is a bunch of crap, but that doesn't matter.
00:08:28.000 It's a story.
00:08:29.000 And it's an effective story, for what it's worth.
00:08:32.000 Here is Donald Trump's story about what he thinks is the big problem with the country right now.
00:08:36.000 Our jobs are fleeing the country.
00:08:39.000 They're going to Mexico.
00:08:40.000 They're going to many other countries.
00:08:42.000 You look at what China is doing to our country in terms of making our product.
00:08:46.000 They're devaluing their currency, and there's nobody in our government to fight them.
00:08:51.000 And we have a very good fight, and we have a winning fight, because they're using our country as a piggy bank to rebuild China.
00:08:59.000 And many other countries are doing the same thing.
00:09:02.000 So his idea is that you are being screwed.
00:09:05.000 And this is a more compelling message than, Hillary, here's my latest program.
00:09:08.000 So you are being—now, here's the problem.
00:09:10.000 The first half hour, Trump, as I say, A, he did a good job in this debate.
00:09:13.000 He's lying.
00:09:14.000 None of this is true, okay?
00:09:15.000 The idea that there's one point where he actually called Mexico the eighth wonder of the world.
00:09:19.000 Like, their industry was the 8th wonder of the world.
00:09:21.000 Like, they're building factories that were the 8th wonder of the world.
00:09:24.000 If it's so great, why is he so worried about Mexicans fleeing across the border, which is why we need the wall, presumably?
00:09:30.000 Why would they be fleeing from the 8th wonder of the world land to this crap hole we call America if they're really destroying us on jobs?
00:09:36.000 If China's schlonging us on the currency, then why is it that China has had two separate major stock market crashes in the last 12 months?
00:09:43.000 So, all of it's not true, but it's more of a compelling narrative.
00:09:47.000 And Hillary—so this is a compelling—and then Hillary comes back, and Hillary is just a giant pile of boredom in a red suit.
00:09:53.000 Now, I will say this.
00:09:54.000 Her energy level was much better last night.
00:09:56.000 She didn't look like a walking corpse, which is one of the things that she had to do.
00:09:59.000 Her entire goal last night was, don't look like a walking corpse and trigger Donald Trump, get Donald Trump to melt down.
00:10:05.000 She accomplished both of those goals.
00:10:06.000 Here's Hillary, but here's Hillary talking about Donald Trump's economic plans.
00:10:12.000 The problem for Hillary is, of course, that she is a programmed robot, and thus, this was awful.
00:10:16.000 Here's the worst of Hillary last night.
00:10:19.000 I call it trumped-up trickle-down, because that's exactly what it would be.
00:10:24.000 That is not how we grow the economy.
00:10:27.000 Trumped-up trickle-down.
00:10:29.000 Okay, so her program—I mean, goodness gracious, if that's her big line, trumped-up trickle-down, you royally suck at this.
00:10:36.000 Wow, really bad.
00:10:38.000 And then she follows that up with, I think we come at the economy from different perspectives.
00:10:42.000 I think we come at it from somewhat different perspectives.
00:10:46.000 I understand that.
00:10:47.000 You know, Donald was very fortunate in his life, and that's all to his benefit.
00:10:53.000 He started his business with $14 million borrowed from his father, and he really believes that the more you help wealthy people, the better off we'll be, and that everything will work out from there.
00:11:04.000 I don't buy that.
00:11:06.000 I have a different experience.
00:11:07.000 My father was a small businessman.
00:11:09.000 He worked really hard.
00:11:10.000 He printed drapery fabrics on long tables where he pulled out those fabrics and he went down with a silk screen and dumped the paint in and took the squeegee and kept going.
00:11:21.000 But in all fairness to Secretary Clinton, when she started talking about this, it was really very recently.
00:11:27.000 She's been doing this for 30 years.
00:11:29.000 And why hasn't she made the agreements better?
00:11:32.000 The NAFTA agreement is defective, just because of the tax and many other reasons, but just because of the fact- Let me interrupt you for a moment- Secretary Clinton and others, politicians, should have been doing this for years.
00:11:43.000 Not right now, because of the fact that we've created a movement.
00:11:46.000 They should have been doing this for years.
00:11:49.000 What's happened to our jobs and our country and our economy generally is, look, we owe 20 trillion dollars.
00:11:57.000 Okay.
00:11:58.000 So, Hillary hits him with this, I grew up a poor black child in Alabama, and she hits Trump with, and you grew up really rich, and that's her first attempt to sort of jar him, it's her attempt to push him into defensiveness, and he ignores it, which is what he should do.
00:12:11.000 And instead, he hits back with, you've been here for 30 years, and all of this sucks, and it's all your fault, because all of it sucks.
00:12:18.000 And Hillary has no comeback for that.
00:12:20.000 Her only comeback for that is, no, no, no, everything is great.
00:12:22.000 Here's Hillary saying, well, you know, everything really is awesome, thanks to President Obama and me.
00:12:27.000 Let's stop for a second and remember where we were eight years ago.
00:12:32.000 We had the worst financial crisis, the Great Recession, the worst since the 1930s.
00:12:37.000 That was in large part because of tax policies that slashed taxes on the wealthy, failed to invest in the middle class, took their eyes off of Wall Street, and created a perfect storm.
00:12:52.000 Okay, and so, her response is typical nothingness, and he kills her on it.
00:12:58.000 She says that she wants to invest in green energy, and he kicks her right in the giant posterior.
00:13:05.000 She talks about solar panels.
00:13:07.000 We invested in a solar company, our country.
00:13:09.000 That was a disaster.
00:13:10.000 They lost plenty of money on that one.
00:13:12.000 Now, look, I'm a great believer in all forms of energy, but we're putting a lot of people out of work.
00:13:19.000 Our energy policies are a disaster.
00:13:21.000 Our country is losing so much in terms of energy, in terms of paying off our debt.
00:13:27.000 You can't do what you're looking to do with $20 trillion in debt.
00:13:30.000 The Obama administration, from the time they've come in,
00:13:34.000 is over 230 years worth of debt, and he's topped it.
00:13:40.000 And he's killing her.
00:13:40.000 I mean, he's destroying her on this.
00:13:42.000 She's trotting out the same old Obama talking points, and he's saying, you've made things bad, and most Americans believe the country's moving in the wrong direction, and she's got nothing on this.
00:13:50.000 I mean, he's crushing her.
00:13:51.000 Watch this next exchange again.
00:13:53.000 He crushes her on this.
00:13:54.000 Well, actually- Excuse me.
00:13:56.000 I will bring back jobs.
00:13:58.000 You can't bring back jobs.
00:13:59.000 Well, actually, I have thought about this quite a bit.
00:14:02.000 Yeah, for 30 years.
00:14:03.000 And I have, well, not quite that long.
00:14:08.000 I think my husband did a pretty good job in the 1990s.
00:14:10.000 I think a lot about what worked and how we can make it work again.
00:14:13.000 Well, he approved NAFTA.
00:14:14.000 Three million new jobs.
00:14:15.000 He approved NAFTA.
00:14:15.000 A balanced budget.
00:14:16.000 Which is the single worst trade deal ever approved in this country.
00:14:20.000 Incomes went up.
00:14:21.000 He hits her with the NAFTA deal.
00:14:22.000 Now, he's factually wrong on NAFTA.
00:14:24.000 NAFTA's not the single worst trade deal in the history of the country.
00:14:26.000 NAFTA's generated millions and billions of dollars in profits for American companies.
00:14:31.000 There are a lot of jobs that exist in the auto industry down south that would not exist if it were not for NAFTA.
00:14:36.000 Doesn't matter.
00:14:37.000 He hits her, and because she won't embrace NAFTA, because she won't embrace free trade, he gives her the runaround on it.
00:14:43.000 And watch how she just falls apart over this.
00:14:45.000 And she does.
00:14:46.000 She falls apart.
00:14:47.000 Here is Donald Trump hitting her again on NAFTA, and then she falls apart on NAFTA and the Trans-Pacific Partnership and her history on trade, because she's not honest enough to embrace free trade.
00:14:57.000 So you have two candidates, both of whom are arguing against free trade, which means they're both factually wrong, but Trump actually believes this stuff, and Hillary's been in favor of free trade before, so he just kicks her around.
00:15:06.000 We're good to go.
00:15:27.000 Maybe ever signed anywhere, but certainly ever signed in this country.
00:15:30.000 And now, you want to approve Trans-Pacific Partnership.
00:15:34.000 You were totally in favor of it, then you heard what I was saying, how bad it is, and you said, I can't win that debate.
00:15:39.000 But you know that if you did win, you would approve that, and that will be almost as bad as NAFTA.
00:15:44.000 Nothing will ever top NAFTA.
00:15:46.000 That is just not accurate.
00:15:50.000 Was against it once it was finally negotiated and the terms were laid out.
00:15:55.000 I wrote about that in... You called it the gold standard.
00:15:58.000 You called it the gold standard of trade deals.
00:16:01.000 You said it's the finest deal you've ever seen.
00:16:03.000 And then you heard what I said about it and all of a sudden you were against it.
00:16:07.000 Well, Donald, I know you live in your own reality, but that is not...
00:16:11.000 The facts.
00:16:12.000 The facts are, I did say, I hoped it would be.
00:16:14.000 We can stop it there.
00:16:15.000 I mean, she falls apart.
00:16:16.000 He's hitting her on this and she absolutely falls apart.
00:16:19.000 And it continues along these lines.
00:16:20.000 She cites her website when she says that she wants to fight ISIS.
00:16:23.000 And he knocks her on that.
00:16:25.000 You go to her website, and you take a look at her website.
00:16:28.000 She's going to raise taxes, 1.3 trillion dollars.
00:16:32.000 And look at her website.
00:16:34.000 You know what?
00:16:34.000 It's no different than this.
00:16:36.000 She's telling us how to fight ISIS.
00:16:37.000 Just go to her website.
00:16:38.000 She tells you how to fight ISIS on her website.
00:16:41.000 I don't think General Douglas MacArthur would like that too much.
00:16:44.000 Okay, and so again, it's not a wonderful answer.
00:16:47.000 It's not really an explanation of why would MacArthur oppose it.
00:16:50.000 No one really knows.
00:16:52.000 Is it?
00:17:07.000 We're good to go.
00:17:25.000 Alright, you have two minutes on the same question to defend tax increases on the wealthiest American, Secretary Clinton.
00:17:31.000 I have a feeling that by the end of this evening I'm going to be blamed for everything that's ever happened.
00:17:35.000 Why not?
00:17:36.000 Why not?
00:17:36.000 Yeah, why not?
00:17:39.000 As I said, trumped up, trickled down.
00:17:42.000 Trickled down did not work.
00:17:44.000 It got us into the mess we were in.
00:17:48.000 Weak team, weak team, weak team.
00:17:50.000 By the way, when she plays the victim, you're blaming me for everything.
00:17:54.000 He says, well, why not?
00:17:55.000 Good question.
00:17:56.000 You were there.
00:17:57.000 Why shouldn't we blame you for these things?
00:17:58.000 Like, why don't you make a case?
00:17:59.000 We shouldn't blame you for these things.
00:18:01.000 So he's killing her.
00:18:02.000 I mean, the first half hour, I'm thinking, President Trump.
00:18:05.000 I mean, really, like, he's going to win.
00:18:07.000 He's going to walk away from this debate the big winner.
00:18:09.000 Typical politician.
00:18:35.000 All talk, no action.
00:18:37.000 Sounds good, doesn't work, never gonna happen.
00:18:41.000 Our country is suffering because people like Secretary Clinton have made such bad decisions in terms of our jobs and in terms of what's going on.
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00:20:51.000 Okay, so, Donald Trump has a magnificent first half hour.
00:20:54.000 Now, a lot of it's based on things that are not true, but truth has no relevance to this campaign.
00:20:58.000 I've given up on truth.
00:20:59.000 Truth means nothing in this campaign.
00:21:01.000 Truth was thrown out long ago when Donald Trump was saying that Ted Cruz's father was murdering JFK and such.
00:21:07.000 Truth has no relevance.
00:21:09.000 Truth went out the window when we decided that Hillary Clinton was a legitimate presidential candidate, even though Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt woman of the last half century.
00:21:17.000 OK, but last night Trump is winning in the first half of the first half hour.
00:21:21.000 And then and then Hillary gets under his skin.
00:21:26.000 Donald Trump has the biggest ego.
00:21:28.000 In America.
00:21:29.000 I mean, he's just, he's an absolute narcissist.
00:21:31.000 He's an insecure, and not just he's a narcissist, he's an insecure narcissist.
00:21:35.000 Most narcissists are, but he's an insecure narcissist.
00:21:38.000 And so if you hit him, he feels the necessity to defend on every front.
00:21:42.000 So, he moves off of his aggressive attacks on Hillary Clinton, he ignores Benghazi, he ignores the Clinton Foundation, he basically ignores the private email server, and instead, he focuses in on defending himself, and he falls apart.
00:21:55.000 I mean, it's an utter and complete meltdown.
00:21:56.000 I really, I think that he went from an A to an F. I thought it was awful.
00:22:00.000 So here's where the moment happens.
00:22:02.000 Donald Trump is asked by Lester Holt about his tax returns.
00:22:04.000 He knew he was going to be asked about his tax returns, and he gives the right response.
00:22:08.000 Here was his original response on the tax returns.
00:22:11.000 I will say this, we have a situation in this country that has to be taken care of.
00:22:18.000 I will release my tax returns against my lawyer's wishes when she releases her 33,000 emails that have been deleted.
00:22:27.000 As soon as she releases them, I will release, I will release my tax returns.
00:22:34.000 Okay, so he says that, and people cheer because, okay, he's ripping on her emails, and that's the proper response.
00:22:40.000 And it goes on like this for a couple of minutes, and then Hillary hits him, and you see Donald Trump's head come off.
00:22:46.000 I mean, you see that he just explodes.
00:22:48.000 There's nothing—he can't help himself, he's insecure, he's a narcissist, and she's been prepping for this.
00:22:54.000 This is the moment she's been prepping for.
00:22:56.000 And somewhere, Kellyanne Conway is tearing out chunks of her own hair.
00:23:00.000 And somewhere, Roger Ailes is rubbing his bald head against a palm tree of some sort.
00:23:05.000 Everybody is going nuts because you can see it happening in real time.
00:23:08.000 If Donald Trump loses, this is the moment that Donald Trump lost the presidency of the United States.
00:23:13.000 This exchange that you're about to see, this is it.
00:23:17.000 Here we go.
00:23:18.000 So you've got to ask yourself, why won't he release his tax returns?
00:23:23.000 And I think there may be a couple of reasons.
00:23:25.000 First, maybe he's not as rich as he says he is.
00:23:29.000 Second, maybe he's not as charitable as he claims to be.
00:23:33.000 Third, we don't know all of his business dealings, but we have been told through investigative reporting that he owes about $650 million to Wall Street and foreign banks.
00:23:47.000 Or maybe he doesn't want the American people, all of you watching tonight,
00:23:51.000 To know that he's paid nothing in federal taxes, because the only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.
00:24:07.000 So if he's paid zero, that means zero for troops, zero for vets, zero for schools or health.
00:24:16.000 And I think probably he's not all that enthusiastic about having the rest of our country see what the real reasons are, because it must be something really important, even terrible, that he's trying to hide.
00:24:31.000 And the financial disclosure statement, they don't give you the tax rate.
00:24:34.000 They don't give you all the details that tax returns would.
00:24:39.000 And it just seems to me that this is something that the American people deserve to see, and I have no reason to believe that he's ever going to release his tax returns, because there's something he's hiding.
00:24:53.000 And we'll guess.
00:24:53.000 We'll keep guessing at what it might be that he's hiding.
00:24:57.000 But I think the question is, were he ever to get near the White House, what would be those conflicts?
00:25:04.000 Who does he owe money to?
00:25:07.000 Well, he owes you the answers to that, and he should provide them.
00:25:12.000 He also raised the issue of your emails.
00:25:13.000 Do you want to respond to that?
00:25:15.000 I do.
00:25:15.000 You know, I made a mistake using a private email.
00:25:19.000 That's for sure.
00:25:20.000 And if I had to do it over again, I would obviously do it differently.
00:25:25.000 But I'm not going to make any excuses.
00:25:27.000 It was a mistake, and I take responsibility for that.
00:25:30.000 Mr. Trump?
00:25:33.000 That was more than a mistake.
00:25:35.000 That was done purposely.
00:25:36.000 Okay?
00:25:36.000 That was not a mistake.
00:25:37.000 That was done purposely.
00:25:39.000 When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, take in the Fifth so they're not prosecuted.
00:25:46.000 When you have the man that set up the illegal server, take in the Fifth
00:25:51.000 I think it's disgraceful.
00:25:52.000 And believe me, this country really thinks it's disgraceful also.
00:25:58.000 As far as my tax returns, you don't learn that much from tax returns, that I can tell you.
00:26:02.000 You learn a lot from financial disclosure.
00:26:05.000 And you should go down and take a look at that.
00:26:07.000 The other thing, I'm extremely under leveraged.
00:26:10.000 The report that said 650, which by the way, a lot of friends of mine that know my business said, boy, that's really not a lot of money.
00:26:17.000 It's not a lot of money relative to what I had.
00:26:20.000 Okay, that's where he loses it.
00:26:22.000 That's where he loses it.
00:26:23.000 And he loses it right there because he's got her, right?
00:26:25.000 Instead of pushing more on the private server, he's got the opening.
00:26:28.000 You set up a private server in a bathroom.
00:26:30.000 You did it days before you were elected Secretary of State.
00:26:32.000 The only reason in the world for you to do that is to hide something from us.
00:26:35.000 So you're saying I'm hiding things about my personal finances.
00:26:40.000 I've given you financial disclosures.
00:26:41.000 You deleted 33,000 emails after making all of your emails vulnerable to foreign hack.
00:26:46.000 The emails that we have seen show that you are trying to cover things up, including corrupt relationships between the Clinton Foundation and the State Department.
00:26:53.000 You've got everybody on your team, as he says, pleading the Fifth Amendment.
00:26:56.000 You set up private email servers for everybody on your team, so none of this would be discoverable by FOIA requests.
00:27:01.000 You are the corrupt ones.
00:27:02.000 You want to rip on my personal finances?
00:27:04.000 I'm a businessman.
00:27:05.000 But you are working for the government, and you are lying about what you did.
00:27:08.000 Instead, instead, because Donald Trump has the thinnest skin in the world, tissue thin, and it's maddening, Donald Trump instead starts talking about being underleveraged.
00:27:18.000 He starts talking about being underleveraged.
00:27:20.000 He goes on like that for like another minute and a half about all of the wonderful things about his business, and why it's not a big deal if he takes loans, and why he doesn't need to turn over his tax returns, and she's just sitting there grinning like a Cheshire cat.
00:27:31.000 And then it gets worse.
00:27:33.000 I don't think so.
00:27:52.000 It's really horrifying.
00:27:53.000 And as the debate went on, he's constantly defending himself or saying incoherent things.
00:27:58.000 And it moves from an issue like free trade, where he feels comfortable even when he's wrong, he feels confident and comfortable even when he's wrong, to issues where he has no idea what he's talking about.
00:28:07.000 And so for the rest of the debate, you get a mishmash of absolute incoherent stupidity and him defending his own record in idiotic ways.
00:28:14.000 Here's one of the examples of him defending his record in idiotic ways.
00:28:17.000 If your main claim to be President of the United States is your business, then I think we should talk about that.
00:28:25.000 You know, your campaign manager said that you built a lot of businesses on the backs of little guys.
00:28:33.000 And indeed, I have met a lot of the people who were stiffed by you and your businesses, Donald.
00:28:39.000 I've met dishwashers, painters.
00:28:43.000 Architects, glass installers, marble installers, drapery installers, like my dad was, who you refused to pay when they finished the work that you asked them to do.
00:28:58.000 We have an architect in the audience who designed one of your clubhouses at one of your golf courses.
00:29:04.000 It's a beautiful facility.
00:29:06.000 It immediately was put to use.
00:29:09.000 And you wouldn't pay what the man needed to be paid, what he was charging you.
00:29:14.000 Maybe he didn't do a good job and I was unsatisfied with his work, which our country should do too.
00:29:20.000 Thousands of people that you have stiffed over the course of your business not deserve some kind of apology from someone who has taken their labor, taken the goods that they produced, and then refused to pay them.
00:29:36.000 He can't help himself.
00:29:37.000 He can't help himself.
00:29:39.000 Right?
00:29:39.000 She lays out this whole thing and his response is, well, if they did a bad job, maybe I should stiff them.
00:29:45.000 And that's what America should do, too?
00:29:47.000 That's his response?
00:29:48.000 Again, the defensiveness, the ego of the man.
00:29:51.000 His ego got him here, and his ego is what's gonna take him down.
00:29:54.000 He did the same thing.
00:29:55.000 Again, he couldn't stop himself.
00:29:56.000 Here's Donald Trump defending his business practices and just babbling nonsensically about crap.
00:30:01.000 No one in the world cares about this stuff.
00:30:03.000 No one in America cares about this stuff.
00:30:05.000 He's got every avenue to hit her.
00:30:07.000 Every avenue is open to hit her, and he's busy talking about what a wonderful guy he is, because in the end, Donald Trump in a mirror is a match made in heaven.
00:30:15.000 We need to be very clear about that.
00:30:18.000 Look, it's all words.
00:30:20.000 It's all sound bites.
00:30:21.000 I built an unbelievable company.
00:30:23.000 Some of the greatest assets anywhere in the world, real estate assets anywhere in the world, beyond the United States, in Europe, lots of different places.
00:30:31.000 It's an unbelievable company.
00:30:33.000 But
00:30:34.000 On occasion, four times, we used certain laws that are there.
00:30:40.000 And when Secretary Clinton talks about people that didn't get paid, first of all, they did get paid a lot, but taking advantage of the laws of the nation.
00:30:51.000 Now, if you want to change the laws, you've been there a long time, change the laws.
00:30:55.000 But I take advantage of the laws of the nation, because I'm running a company.
00:30:59.000 It's just terrible stuff.
00:31:01.000 It's terrible stuff.
00:31:02.000 Okay, now, the part of the problem here is that every avenue against her is open.
00:31:06.000 Every avenue is open.
00:31:07.000 And he's foregoing these avenues because he's too busy patting himself on the back and rubbing his own butt to worry about niceties like I'm in the middle of a presidential debate with an actual opponent.
00:31:16.000 So, watch what Hillary Clinton says about the police here.
00:31:19.000 She leaves herself so wide open and Trump does nothing.
00:31:23.000 No thangs.
00:31:23.000 Zero thangs he does here.
00:31:25.000 Here is Lester Holt asking Hillary Clinton about race relations.
00:31:28.000 Secretary Clinton, last week you said we've got to do everything possible to improve policing to go right at implicit bias.
00:31:35.000 Do you believe that police are implicitly biased against black people?
00:31:39.000 Lester, I think implicit bias is a problem for everyone, not just police.
00:31:43.000 I think unfortunately too many of us in our great country jump to conclusions about each other and therefore I think we need all of us to be asking hard questions about
00:31:57.000 You know, why am I feeling this way?
00:32:01.000 But when it comes to policing, since it can have literally fatal consequences, I have said in my first budget we would put money into that budget to help us deal with implicit bias by retraining a lot of our police officers.
00:32:17.000 You know what she just said right there?
00:32:18.000 She said every American is racist.
00:32:20.000 Everyone in America is racist.
00:32:21.000 Now, if you were paying attention or if you had a brain in his head, you would have said, Hillary Clinton, are you accusing every American of being a racist?
00:32:28.000 And are you accusing all police officers of being secretly racist?
00:32:31.000 And what sort of stupid training programs do you suggest to retrain our evil, evil police officers?
00:32:36.000 I mean, he's got her on the road and nothing.
00:32:38.000 And nothing.
00:32:39.000 And nothing.
00:32:40.000 Here's his answer.
00:32:41.000 Here's his answer.
00:32:42.000 She talks about gun control next.
00:32:44.000 And here's his answer on gun control.
00:32:45.000 His answer is to agree with her.
00:32:47.000 First of all, I agree, and a lot of people, even within my own party, want to give certain rights to people on watch lists and no-fly lists.
00:32:55.000 I agree with you.
00:32:56.000 When a person is on a watch list or a no-fly list, and I have the endorsement of the NRA, which I'm very proud of.
00:33:03.000 These are very, very good people, and they are protecting the Second Amendment.
00:33:06.000 But I think we have to look very strongly at no-fly lists and watch lists, and when people are
00:33:12.000 That's a Democrat policy.
00:33:13.000 What he's talking about there is a Democrat policy because he's a Democrat, okay?
00:33:16.000 Now, it continues along these lines, it continues along these lines, and here's, and one of the other problems here is that Lester Holt really was quite bad yesterday.
00:33:26.000 Donald Trump fact-checked Hillary Clinton at one point about the murder rate, and Donald Trump was totally right, but it doesn't, but it doesn't matter.
00:33:33.000 It doesn't matter because the impression already is that he's out of control by this time in the debate.
00:33:39.000 Well, it's also fair to say, if we're going to talk about mayors, that under the current mayor, crime has continued to drop, including murders.
00:33:47.000 So there is... You're wrong.
00:33:48.000 You're wrong.
00:33:49.000 No, I'm not.
00:33:49.000 Murders are up.
00:33:51.000 Alright, you check it.
00:33:54.000 And he's
00:34:25.000 When it really got bad for Trump is when Lester Holt decided—and this is when Lester Holt really started to intervene in a nasty way.
00:34:31.000 Lester Holt, the moderator, decided to ask Trump about everything bad that he'd ever said.
00:34:35.000 And so he started off with the birther stuff.
00:34:37.000 So this would be—this would be—this would be clip 20.
00:34:43.000 You perpetuated a false claim that the nation's first black president was not a natural-born citizen.
00:34:49.000 You questioned his legitimacy.
00:34:50.000 In the last couple of weeks, you acknowledged what most Americans have accepted for years, the president was born in the United States.
00:34:57.000 Can you tell us what took you so long?
00:34:59.000 I'll tell you very, well, just very simple to say.
00:35:03.000 Sidney Blumenthal
00:35:05.000 works for the campaign and close, very close friend of Secretary Clinton.
00:35:10.000 And her campaign manager, Patty Doyle, went to, during the campaign, her campaign against President Obama, fought very hard, and you can go look it up, and you can check it out, and if you look at CNN this past week, Patty Solis Doyle
00:35:30.000 Was on Wolf Blitzer, saying that this happened.
00:35:34.000 Blumenthal sent Metlatchy, highly respected reporter at Metlatchy, to Kenya to find out about it.
00:35:42.000 They were pressing it very hard.
00:35:43.000 She failed.
00:35:45.000 To get the birth certificate.
00:35:47.000 Okay, so now he's on the defensive about the birther issue.
00:35:51.000 And he should have had a better answer than this.
00:35:53.000 I'm sorry, this is a really crappy answer.
00:35:54.000 And Holt follows up, he says, you know, I'll let you respond, but why exactly did it take you so long?
00:36:00.000 And Trump still has no answer to it.
00:36:02.000 And he falls apart, and Hillary just hits him across the face with a two-by-four, and it just continues along these lines.
00:36:07.000 And again, because Trump has no capacity to acknowledge when he's wrong, ever.
00:36:12.000 Every time that Trump does something wrong, he can't acknowledge it.
00:36:14.000 So then Hillary continues, and she asks about Vladimir Putin hacking American institutions like the DNC.
00:36:21.000 And Trump, because he likes Vladimir Putin, feels the necessity to defend Vladimir Putin.
00:36:25.000 Again, he fell apart the last 60 minutes of the debate.
00:36:28.000 This one is clip 23, if we've got that one.
00:36:30.000 And as far as the cyber, I agree to parts of what Secretary Clinton said.
00:36:36.000 We should be better than anybody else, and perhaps we're not.
00:36:39.000 I don't think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC.
00:36:42.000 She's saying Russia, Russia, Russia, but I don't... Maybe it was.
00:36:45.000 I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China.
00:36:47.000 It could also be lots of other people.
00:36:49.000 It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay?
00:36:53.000 You don't know who broke into DNC.
00:36:57.000 Okay, why is he defending Vladimir Putin?
00:36:59.000 Because he's never been wrong ever.
00:37:00.000 Because he's never been wrong.
00:37:01.000 Donald Trump, in his own mind, has never made a mistake about anything, which is why when he was asked, he said, I never repent before God because I just do things where I don't have to repent.
00:37:10.000 From the guy who wrote in his autobiography that he brags about having sex with married women.
00:37:15.000 That came home to roost last night, because every mistake that he's made in this campaign, not even everyone, like a very small number of them were brought up, and he has no capacity to just back off of them.
00:37:24.000 If he just did what Hillary Clinton did on the server, where she said, I just made a mistake, that's the end of it.
00:37:28.000 He should have said, I made a mistake about the birther issue.
00:37:30.000 I should have disowned it earlier.
00:37:32.000 And if they ask, why didn't you?
00:37:33.000 He said, I made a mistake.
00:37:35.000 I can't say more than that.
00:37:36.000 And that's it.
00:37:37.000 And that's it.
00:37:38.000 But he can't, because he can never acknowledge that he made a mistake.
00:37:40.000 And so his ego took him down yesterday.
00:37:43.000 His ego really destroyed him.
00:37:45.000 And as his ego began to destroy him, as he focused in on defending himself over and over and over, his verbiage just became more and more incoherent.
00:37:52.000 So here was his answer.
00:37:53.000 The question here was, what would you do about America's cybersecurity?
00:37:58.000 And here was his answer, which legitimately, I mean, the only way you understand this is if you are Gary Johnson and you just smoked an enormous bong.
00:38:05.000 So we have to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare.
00:38:10.000 It is a huge problem.
00:38:12.000 I have a son.
00:38:12.000 He's 10 years old.
00:38:14.000 He has computers.
00:38:15.000 He is so good with these computers.
00:38:17.000 It's unbelievable.
00:38:19.000 The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough, and maybe it's hardly doable.
00:38:26.000 But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing.
00:38:29.000 But that's true throughout our whole governmental society.
00:38:33.000 We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester, and certainly cyber is one of them.
00:38:37.000 Cyber is one of them.
00:38:38.000 I mean, what is he even talking about?
00:38:39.000 What's he talking about?
00:38:40.000 Do you know what he's talking about?
00:38:41.000 He doesn't know what he's talking about.
00:38:43.000 And that's what became evident.
00:38:44.000 As the debate went on, he ran out of material.
00:38:46.000 He suddenly had to fill the time.
00:38:48.000 He had nothing to fill it with.
00:38:49.000 And so he filled it with pathetic defenses of himself.
00:38:52.000 No attacks on Hillary.
00:38:53.000 He ignores Benghazi.
00:38:54.000 He ignores the Clinton Foundation.
00:38:55.000 Neither of those is mentioned at any point during this debate.
00:38:58.000 Hillary Clinton's historic incompetence as Secretary of State is only mentioned with regard to the Iran deal.
00:39:03.000 Libya comes up one time in the entire debate.
00:39:06.000 It's amazing stuff.
00:39:07.000 And then this, I thought, was the killer exchange.
00:39:09.000 So Trump started to collapse it at minute 31.
00:39:12.000 But this right here, and this is going to be right here, clip 26, this is the moment when, if the debate matters, and now I'll explain, the debate may not matter.
00:39:21.000 It may not, after all this is said and done.
00:39:24.000 This is the moment, if it matters, if the debate mattered at all, this is the moment when Donald Trump blew himself up.
00:39:29.000 I mean, just strapped a political suicide bomb to his chest and detonated it.
00:39:34.000 Mr. Trump, a lot of these are judgment questions.
00:39:36.000 You had supported the war in Iraq before the invasion.
00:39:40.000 I did not support the war in Iraq.
00:39:43.000 That is a mainstream media nonsense put out by her because she, frankly, I think the best person in her campaign is mainstream media.
00:39:52.000 Would you like to hear?
00:39:55.000 I was against the war.
00:39:56.000 Wait a minute.
00:39:57.000 I was against the war in Iraq.
00:39:59.000 Just so you put it out.
00:40:00.000 The record shows otherwise.
00:40:01.000 The record does not show that.
00:40:02.000 The record shows that I'm right.
00:40:05.000 When I did an interview with Howard Stern, very lightly, first time anyone's asked me that, I said, very lightly, I don't know, maybe, who knows.
00:40:14.000 Essentially.
00:40:15.000 I then did an interview with Neil Cavuto.
00:40:19.000 We talked about the economy is more important.
00:40:21.000 I then spoke to Sean Hannity, which everybody refuses to call Sean Hannity.
00:40:26.000 I had numerous conversations with Sean Hannity at Fox.
00:40:29.000 And Sean Hannity said,
00:40:31.000 And he called me the other day, and I spoke to him about it.
00:40:35.000 He said, you were totally against war, because he was for the war.
00:40:38.000 And that was before the war started.
00:40:41.000 Sean Hannity said very strongly, to me and other people, he's willing to say it, but nobody wants to call him.
00:40:48.000 I was against the war.
00:40:49.000 He said, you used to have fights with me because Sean was in favor of the war.
00:40:52.000 And I understand that side also.
00:40:55.000 Not very much because we should have never been there.
00:40:58.000 But nobody called Sean Hannity.
00:41:00.000 And then they did an article in a major magazine shortly after the war started.
00:41:04.000 I think in 2004, but they did an article which had me totally against the war in Iraq.
00:41:11.000 And one of your compatriots said, you know, whether it was before or right after, Trump was definitely, because if you read this article, there's no doubt.
00:41:19.000 But if somebody, and I'll ask the press, if somebody would call up Sean Hannity, this was before the war started.
00:41:26.000 He and I used to have arguments about the war.
00:41:28.000 I said it's a terrible and a stupid thing.
00:41:31.000 It's going to destabilize the Middle East, and that's exactly what it's done.
00:41:35.000 It's been a disaster.
00:41:36.000 My reference was to what you had said in 2002, and my question was, why is your judgment any different than...
00:41:42.000 Well, I have much better judgment than she does.
00:41:45.000 There's no question about that.
00:41:46.000 I also have a much better temperament than she has.
00:41:49.000 You know, I have a much better, she spent, let me tell you, she spent hundreds of millions of dollars on an advertising, you know, they get Madison Avenue into a room, they put names, oh temperament, let's go after, I think my strongest asset
00:42:05.000 Maybe by far, it's my temperament.
00:42:07.000 I have a winning temperament.
00:42:08.000 I know how to win.
00:42:10.000 She does not know how to win.
00:42:11.000 Wait, the AFL-CIO the other day, behind the blue screen, I don't know who you were talking to, Secretary Clinton, but you were totally out of control.
00:42:22.000 I said, there's a person with a temperament that's got a problem.
00:42:26.000 Secretary Clinton.
00:42:27.000 Woo!
00:42:27.000 Okay.
00:42:31.000 And she's grinning because he just made a jackass of himself.
00:43:02.000 He's a joke
00:43:31.000 Hillary Clinton.
00:43:33.000 But Trump has made a big deal out of opposing the war in Iraq.
00:43:35.000 By the way, if I have to listen to one more Republican who backed the war in Iraq say that Donald Trump has great judgment because he didn't back the war in Iraq, you all backed the war in Iraq, okay?
00:43:44.000 So now you're going to pretend that Donald Trump is a genius because he took the same position that Cindy Sheehan and Barack Obama did?
00:43:50.000 It's just, it's asinine.
00:43:52.000 It's asinine.
00:43:53.000 And Trump made a fool of himself right here, and it's clear that he made a fool of himself, but that wasn't the last moment where he made a fool of himself.
00:43:58.000 Finally, Hillary drops the sexist line, and Trump utterly, utterly blows it.
00:44:03.000 This is the final clip that we'll play from the debate.
00:44:04.000 This is clip 29.
00:44:05.000 Well, one thing, Lester, is, you know, he tried to switch from looks to stamina.
00:44:15.000 But this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs, and dogs.
00:44:20.000 And someone who has said pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers.
00:44:27.000 Who has said women don't deserve equal pay unless they do as good a job as men.
00:44:33.000 And one of the worst things he said was about
00:44:37.000 A woman in a beauty contest.
00:44:40.000 He loves beauty contests, supporting them and hanging around them.
00:44:44.000 And he called this woman Miss Piggy.
00:44:48.000 Then he called her Miss Housekeeping because she was Latina.
00:44:53.000 Donald, she has a name.
00:44:54.000 Where did you find this?
00:44:54.000 Her name is Alicia Machado.
00:44:56.000 Where did you find this?
00:44:57.000 And she has become a U.S.
00:44:59.000 citizen, and you can bet she's going to vote this November.
00:45:03.000 Okay, good.
00:45:04.000 Let me just tell you.
00:45:05.000 Mr. Trump, take ten seconds and then we'll have the final question.
00:45:07.000 You know, Hillary is hitting me with tremendous commercials.
00:45:11.000 Some of it said an entertainment, some of it said somebody who's been very vicious to me, Rosie O'Donnell.
00:45:17.000 I said very tough things to her and I think everybody would agree that she deserves it and nobody feels sorry for her.
00:45:23.000 But you want to know the truth?
00:45:24.000 I was going to say something extremely rough.
00:45:30.000 To Hillary, to her family, and I said to myself, I can't do it.
00:45:35.000 I just can't do it.
00:45:36.000 It's inappropriate.
00:45:38.000 It's not nice.
00:45:39.000 But she spent hundreds of millions of dollars on negative ads on me, many of which are absolutely untrue.
00:45:46.000 They're untrue, and they're misrepresentations.
00:45:49.000 And I will tell you this, Lester, it's not nice, and I don't deserve that.
00:45:55.000 I don't deserve that.
00:45:56.000 So in the end, he's playing the victim.
00:45:58.000 In the end, he's the pathetic victim, and Hillary Clinton is the oppressor after she points out that he called the woman Miss Piggy and Miss Housekeeping because she was Latina, and he's got no comeback for that.
00:46:07.000 Okay, so the debate ends, and everybody's spinning, of course.
00:46:10.000 You've got the people spinning in favor of Trump, you've got the people spinning in favor of Hillary.
00:46:13.000 I think it's pretty clear, the first third of the debate, he won
00:46:16.000 We're good to go.
00:46:41.000 The bad news is, one of the two worst people in the world will be president.
00:46:44.000 But Trump utterly blew it last night.
00:46:45.000 He looked like a fool.
00:46:46.000 He looked unstable.
00:46:47.000 He looked stupid.
00:46:48.000 And he deserved to look stupid, because he was stupid last night.
00:46:52.000 He let his ego take control of him, and he fell apart.
00:46:54.000 And Hillary sat there looking like the corrupt, evil Cheshire cat that she is.
00:46:58.000 She gave him enough rope, and he hung himself.
00:47:00.000 But he wasn't done!
00:47:01.000 He wasn't done hanging himself.
00:47:02.000 So, this morning, right?
00:47:04.000 Now when you win a debate,
00:47:05.000 Then you're magnanimous.
00:47:06.000 You say, I did a great job and, you know, I thought my opponent did a good job and I thought the moderator did a good job.
00:47:12.000 Here is Donald Trump this morning trying to come back from the Miss Universe line that Hillary Clinton dropped on him on Fox and Friends.
00:47:18.000 For a bit of added hilarity, watch the moderator's faces, watch the host's faces on Fox and Friends when Trump drops this one.
00:47:25.000 She was a Miss Universe contestant and ultimately a winner who they had a tremendously difficult time with as Miss Universe.
00:47:34.000 Did not know that story.
00:47:35.000 Well, I didn't know either.
00:47:38.000 She was the winner and she gained a massive amount of weight.
00:47:42.000 And it was a real problem.
00:47:44.000 We had a real problem.
00:47:45.000 Not only that, her attitude.
00:47:47.000 And we had a real problem with her.
00:47:49.000 So Hillary went back into the years and she found this girl.
00:47:53.000 This was many years ago.
00:47:55.000 And found the girl and talked about her like she was Mother Teresa.
00:48:00.000 Okay, that's your defense?
00:48:01.000 So Hillary says you call a girl fat, and you say, you know what?
00:48:03.000 She gained a lot of weight.
00:48:04.000 Fatty.
00:48:05.000 This is his genius comeback, and you can see the hosts going, what are you doing?
00:48:08.000 Why are you doing this?
00:48:09.000 Why can't you shut up?
00:48:10.000 Somewhere Kellyanne Conway is screaming into a pillow.
00:48:14.000 Okay, that wasn't it.
00:48:14.000 Then he claims that his microphone was rigged.
00:48:16.000 So apparently in the room, they were having some trouble with the microphones, but Trump has to make excuses now, so the microphone, the reason that he did badly last night is because the microphone was rigged.
00:48:25.000 This is his line this morning.
00:48:26.000 I tested it.
00:48:27.000 It was beautiful, like an hour before.
00:48:28.000 I said, what a great mic.
00:48:30.000 But in actuality... You mean to the people listening in the hall could not hear your full answers?
00:48:35.000 Well, it was on and off.
00:48:36.000 And it was much lower than hers.
00:48:39.000 I don't want to believe in conspiracy theories, of course, but it was much lower than hers.
00:48:43.000 And it was crackling.
00:48:45.000 And she didn't have that problem.
00:48:46.000 That was, to me, a bad problem, because you have a bum mic, it's not exactly good.
00:48:51.000 And then he said, well, maybe it was a conspiracy.
00:48:53.000 So the sort of brilliance you're becoming accustomed to from the Republican nominee, the idea that this was the pick, this was the pick, is shocking.
00:49:01.000 And then that wasn't it.
00:49:03.000 Last night, he was doing this weird thing, and he's been doing it for months.
00:49:05.000 I don't know why people just noticed it last night, where when he's really amped up and he's speaking, he did it during the primary debates.
00:49:12.000 He would say something, and then he would finish a sentence, and he would do this.
00:49:15.000 I'm gonna finish the sentence now.
00:49:18.000 Okay, now he's gonna continue.
00:49:19.000 And he's doing that sniffle.
00:49:21.000 And people were saying, I don't know what the hell that is.
00:49:23.000 What's that all about?
00:49:24.000 Here's Trump denying it ever happened.
00:49:25.000 It never happened.
00:49:29.000 Perhaps we'll be talking about that later.
00:49:36.000 It's our country's in deep trouble.
00:49:56.000 Meanwhile, you've got the typical defenders, and this just shows you how ridiculous this race has become.
00:50:02.000 Sean Hannity, so a little late, right?
00:50:04.000 Trump calls for Sean Hannity to run on stage and give him a big hug, and Sean can't do it.
00:50:09.000 And Sean, by the way, he acts like Sean Hannity.
00:50:11.000 He says everybody in America should call Sean Hannity and ask Sean's opinion.
00:50:14.000 First of all, I didn't know that that was admissible evidence in a presidential debate.
00:50:17.000 I very much look forward to any time I'm criticized in a presidential debate saying, you know, I had a conversation with my best friend 26 years ago, and I think you should call him up right now, and they'll testify.
00:50:27.000 I mean, like, really?
00:50:28.000 Sean Hannity has a nationally syndicated radio show.
00:50:30.000 He's the second biggest radio host in America, and he has a massive show on Fox News.
00:50:36.000 Any time in here he could have said Trump was anti-war, but he waits until last night, and then he says, yeah, it turns out Trump was right.
00:50:42.000 It turns out Trump was always right.
00:50:43.000 He says, 100% true.
00:50:44.000 He would watch the show and call, and after we argued a lot about it.
00:50:48.000 Well done, Sean.
00:50:49.000 That changes everything.
00:50:51.000 That's admissible evidence.
00:50:52.000 Just wonderful.
00:50:56.000 Ted Cruz fulfilling the Boss Tweed.
00:50:58.000 I mean, this hurts me to say, because I like Ted Cruz personally.
00:51:00.000 Boss Tweed has a famous line, the old kind of corrupt New York politician, had a famous line about politicians he liked.
00:51:07.000 He said, the way that you know an honest politician is that after you buy him, he stays bought.
00:51:11.000 So Ted Cruz came out on Friday and endorsed Trump.
00:51:14.000 And then he was on with Hugh Hewitt, and he decided to go full scale.
00:51:23.000 Donald Trump did the best debate anybody's ever heard of.
00:51:25.000 Tell me what you saw last night.
00:51:28.000 Well, last night I thought it was a very strong debate.
00:51:31.000 I thought Hillary did not have a good performance.
00:51:35.000 I think throughout the night she was tired, she was formulaic.
00:51:43.000 The entire debate from Hillary was more Washington as usual, and every proposal she advanced was another big government solution that isn't working, that is failing.
00:51:54.000 And I thought Donald had the strongest debate performance he's had of this election cycle.
00:51:59.000 I think he really went after Hillary, which was a good thing.
00:52:03.000 And I think he drew strong contrasts, particularly on taxes and on regulation and on law and order and on the disastrous Iran deal.
00:52:12.000 And so I thought it was a good debate night.
00:52:15.000 It's just, okay, really?
00:52:17.000 Really?
00:52:17.000 Did you?
00:52:17.000 Did you, Ted?
00:52:18.000 Or is it just that now that you've decided that you're going to make this call, now you're going to go full bore for Trump so that no one can blame you if Trump loses?
00:52:26.000 It's just that honesty has gone completely by the wayside in this election, but I suppose I should have given that up long ago.
00:52:31.000 By the way, Frank Luntz did a focus group last night.
00:52:33.000 Here's what the focus group had to say about this debate.
00:52:36.000 Who had the biggest impact on your vote?
00:52:39.000 How many of you say Donald Trump?
00:52:40.000 Raise your hands.
00:52:42.000 Two, four, five of you.
00:52:44.000 How many of you say Hillary Clinton?
00:52:46.000 Two, four, six, eight, ten, twelve, fourteen, sixteen of you.
00:52:51.000 So she comes out the clear winner.
00:52:54.000 We're surrounded by some of the great people, Alexander Hamilton and James Madison.
00:52:58.000 Do these candidates measure up?
00:53:00.000 Do you feel better?
00:53:01.000 No?
00:53:02.000 Why are you laughing?
00:53:04.000 She is an amazing politician.
00:53:06.000 She was confident, she was well spoken.
00:53:10.000 I don't believe her anymore than I did before.
00:53:12.000 People want to know, a 16 to 5 margin is a big margin.
00:53:17.000 It's bigger than almost any debate I've done in a long time.
00:53:20.000 Where did she do so well or why didn't Trump do so well?
00:53:24.000 Somebody.
00:53:24.000 She looks like she went off message.
00:53:27.000 Recently he's been very good with his speeches and his appearances where he has stayed on message, no personal attacks, just sold himself and his plan instead of attacking.
00:53:37.000 And tonight he went back to attack.
00:53:39.000 But Donald Trump was more interested in just digging into her and just tearing her down.
00:53:47.000 It's not even true.
00:53:48.000 It's not even true, right?
00:53:50.000 He didn't spend most of the debate attacking her.
00:53:51.000 The first half an hour he did, but that's when he was winning.
00:53:54.000 It was the last part when he was defending himself that he fell apart.
00:53:57.000 And people see his defenses of himself as him being aggressive and puerile.
00:54:02.000 That's what's amazing.
00:54:03.000 The perception of the people watching is not what actually happened.
00:54:07.000 But if you look defensive, you look nasty.
00:54:10.000 And he looked nasty.
00:54:11.000 And he looked stupid.
00:54:12.000 Because he is a nasty, stupid man.
00:54:14.000 Okay, here's the fact about the selection.
00:54:16.000 Every accusation Hillary Clinton makes about Donald Trump is likely true.
00:54:19.000 Every accusation Donald Trump makes about Hillary Clinton is likely true.
00:54:22.000 That means whichever one of them stays on offense more is likely to win.
00:54:26.000 Is likely to win.
00:54:27.000 And about half an hour in, Donald Trump stopped being on offense because he can never just take the criticism and move on.
00:54:33.000 He can never just take the hit and move on.
00:54:35.000 Okay.
00:54:36.000 So, time, now, now, quick, quick note, and then we'll get to things I like and things I hate.
00:54:39.000 So, quick note here, will this make any difference?
00:54:42.000 It's possible this makes no difference in the polls.
00:54:43.000 The exit polls showed, there's a CNN poll showed that, I think it was 62% of people thought Trump lost, 27% thought he won.
00:54:51.000 So, really bad poll for Trump.
00:54:53.000 But, among independents, 26% said they were more likely to vote Hillary, 22% more likely to vote Trump, the rest don't know.
00:55:00.000 So it's possible the polls don't move.
00:55:02.000 If next week the polls have not moved, if he's still running an extraordinarily tight race with her, if she doesn't get any sort of bump, if she doesn't get a three to five point bump,
00:55:11.000 He's going to be the president, because it's clear that Americans are just looking for an excuse to vote for him, because after that debate, you have every excuse not to vote for him, because that was an egregious performance.
00:55:21.000 I thought he was incoherent.
00:55:22.000 I thought he made an ass of himself.
00:55:24.000 I mean, it's disappointing on every level, because the one thing that everyone was looking forward to was Donald Trump taking the fight to her, and instead he spent the entire time talking about himself, which is his favorite topic.
00:55:34.000 Okay, time for some things I like and some things I hate.
00:55:37.000 So, things I like.
00:55:38.000 So, there's this book that I just finished.
00:55:39.000 I've become a big fan of this author, at least her historical novels, Hilary Mantel.
00:55:44.000 The book is called A Place of Greater Safety, and it's about the French Revolution.
00:55:48.000 It's about Robespierre, Danton, and Desmaline, who, I'm pronouncing this wrong, I'm sure, who's a journalist at the time, and it's a really kind of good, close, almost day-to-day look at what's happening during the French Revolution, and it shows you how people's
00:56:02.000 Perceptions of their own virtue can lead to widespread murder.
00:56:07.000 How people who might be corrupt actually, they can turn out to be more principled than some of the people who actually think that they're virtuous.
00:56:15.000 Really, really fascinating book.
00:56:16.000 I really like her work.
00:56:17.000 I think Wolf Hall, which is the book she wrote about Thomas Cromwell and its sequel, I think those are very, very good.
00:56:22.000 This book is less read, but it is a very good book.
00:56:24.000 A Place of Greater Safety by Hilary Mantel.
00:56:27.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:56:34.000 Okay, so we begin with our good friend Rickamoo Perry.
00:56:38.000 So, Rick Perry, ever since he has left the presidential stage, has been searching for a gig.
00:56:43.000 And his latest gig is on Dancing with the Stars.
00:56:45.000 Every time he's on Dancing with the Stars, from now until he is booted off, we will play tape of him because it is hi-lario.
00:56:50.000 So here is Rick Perry, the four-term governor of—oh my God.
00:56:56.000 Rick Perry, the four-term governor of the state of Texas, one of the most successful governors in the history of the United States, and there he is on Dancing with the Stars next to a dancer in a Hillary Clinton mask as he makes a muscle.
00:57:07.000 Yep, that's what I read.
00:57:09.000 You wonder why reality TV stars are now politicians?
00:57:12.000 Maybe it's because politicians are actually reality TV stars.
00:57:14.000 It doesn't start with Rick Perry.
00:57:16.000 He's just the latest iteration.
00:57:17.000 Okay, other things that I hate.
00:57:18.000 Katy Perry, she does something, they say that this is unique, but I failed to see how Katy Perry
00:57:23.000 Hi, I'm Katy Perry!
00:57:46.000 You know, November 8th is election day, and I've got some great news.
00:57:51.000 This year, you can look like s*** when you vote.
00:57:56.000 Perfect.
00:57:57.000 Yep, I've briefly scanned the Constitution, and nowhere does it say you can't just roll out of bed and come to the polls in whatever state you woke up in.
00:58:06.000 In the name of democracy, any just-out-of-bed look is A-OK.
00:58:10.000 A child's onesie.
00:58:14.000 Hunk and kids' briefs.
00:58:16.000 That free XL t-shirt you got from your bank.
00:58:19.000 The Breakout.
00:58:22.000 The Scrooge.
00:58:24.000 Sleeping Beauty.
00:58:26.000 Covered in slime.
00:58:28.000 Did I mention the hunk in the kids' briefs?
00:58:32.000 Or, if you're like me, I sleep naked.
00:58:36.000 Yep.
00:58:37.000 Let those babies loose, cause no one ever said... Ma'am.
00:58:41.000 Alright, ma'am.
00:58:41.000 Alright, that's enough of that.
00:58:42.000 No, no, no.
00:58:43.000 I read the Constitution.
00:58:44.000 I know that I have the right to vote naked.
00:58:46.000 Did you read it?
00:58:47.000 Or did you just briefly scan it?
00:58:49.000 Come on.
00:58:51.000 No, no, no.
00:58:52.000 Come on.
00:58:52.000 Let's go.
00:58:56.000 You two.
00:59:00.000 Scratch that.
00:59:00.000 Gotta wear clothes.
00:59:01.000 My bad.
00:59:02.000 See you at the polls November 8th!
00:59:04.000 You're going to vote because you saw this?
00:59:06.000 Please don't.
00:59:07.000 Please never vote ever, ever again.
00:59:09.000 Please never vote.
00:59:10.000 Please stay home.
00:59:11.000 Please wear clothes also.
00:59:14.000 It's just, the celebrities are so horrible.
00:59:17.000 And the fact, whenever they get involved in politics, it's the end of the world, which is why we should've nominated one!
00:59:21.000 What did you people do?
00:59:22.000 Okay.
00:59:23.000 Finally.
00:59:24.000 Okay, so it's time for a little bit of deconstructing the culture.
00:59:26.000 I know, I know.
00:59:27.000 The extra longest show of all time, but let's do it.
00:59:31.000 Deconstructing the culture.
00:59:32.000 Okay, so today's deconstructing the culture is everybody's favorite, Adele.
00:59:35.000 She has a new song, Send My Love to Your New Lover.
00:59:38.000 I think that Adele is wildly overrated.
00:59:40.000 I think that her voice is okay.
00:59:42.000 I think her songs are boring.
00:59:44.000 I think that people are attributing to her magical powers that she simply does not have.
00:59:48.000 But here is Adele's new song, Send My Love to Your New Lover.
01:00:01.000 I'm just standing there for people who are just listening.
01:00:02.000 She's not doing anything.
01:00:26.000 Okay, so...
01:00:54.000 We're good to go!
01:01:17.000 You put your hands on my body and told me, you told me you were ready for the big one, for the big jump, I'd be your last love everlasting, you and me.
01:01:24.000 I'm giving you up, I've forgotten it all.
01:01:26.000 You set me free.
01:01:26.000 Send my love to your new lover, treat her better.
01:01:28.000 We've gotta let go of all of our ghosts.
01:01:30.000 So, this is a stellar case for marriage, gang.
01:01:33.000 Okay, so what she's saying here is that she got in bed with some dude because he made promises to her, and then it didn't work out, and now she wants him to treat the new lover better because she moved on with her life.
01:01:43.000 But clearly she hasn't gotten over it, because she's still singing about it, right?
01:01:46.000 So this is, this is, it's the mentality of today's modern young person, the last couple of generations, or the last three generations, is this idea, what you need is, for sex, all you need is commitment.
01:01:58.000 Commitment.
01:01:58.000 Love and commitment.
01:01:59.000 That's it, just love.
01:02:00.000 Love, commitment, those are the things.
01:02:02.000 Okay, when I teach my kids about sex, they're two and a half and four months, so it's a little early.
01:02:07.000 When I teach them about sex, whenever that is, what I'm going to say is, when a man and a woman get married, they have sex.
01:02:15.000 Now, technically speaking, you know, that's just as accurate as when a man and a woman fall in love.
01:02:19.000 There are plenty of people who have sex who never fall in love.
01:02:21.000 They just have sex.
01:02:22.000 Right?
01:02:22.000 But the idea is that you have to teach your kid the moral standard from the beginning.
01:02:26.000 So normally, the way that they preach this on TV is, when a man and a woman love each other, they make love.
01:02:31.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:02:32.000 When a man makes an actual commitment to a woman where he is now bound to her and she makes a mutual commitment back to him, then it's the appropriate time for sex because then it's not just a guy saying anything to get a girl in bed.
01:02:43.000 I know there are all these single women out there who are under the misimpression that men are out for your best interest.
01:02:49.000 It's amazing the sort of dichotomy that exists among a lot of single women, not all single women obviously, but a lot of single women think two things.
01:02:55.000 One, men are pigs.
01:02:56.000 Two, the guy I'm dating is one of the nicest people who ever lived and he only wants the best for me and he definitely will not use me.
01:03:02.000 The guy I just met at the bar five minutes ago?
01:03:05.000 All men are pigs except for the guy I just met at the bar five minutes ago who will never hurt me because he told me he wouldn't.
01:03:10.000 Okay, ladies, don't be stupid.
01:03:12.000 Don't be stupid.
01:03:13.000 It turns out that men will say pretty much anything to have sex.
01:03:16.000 They will say virtually anything to have sex.
01:03:18.000 All men need is a time and a place.
01:03:19.000 So, the theme of this song to me is, you know, she can sit around, she can whine about how, you know, send my love to your new lover, or she could have just said, you know what, you're not getting in the sack with me until I'm actually ready to get married, and you're actually ready to get married, and then, you know what, I'm not gonna have to worry about you sending my love to your new lover, because there's no new lover, because now you're married, and you're boxed in.
01:03:40.000 I mean, you could do that, but that social standard has become taboo now.
01:03:43.000 And what's amazing is it's considered sexist against women for me to suggest that men should have to commit to the woman before having sex with her.
01:03:50.000 Now again, it's your choice.
01:03:51.000 If you want to live Adele's lifestyle, and you feel like jumping sack to sack with men, if you feel like having sex with a guy because he says he lurves you, and then he takes off, and then he moves on to his new lover, and you feel like singing this song to yourself alone in your stupid Toyota Camry, it's all you.
01:04:04.000 You can do whatever you please.
01:04:05.000 It's a free country.
01:04:06.000 If you would like to live a happier life, let me just recommend the basic old-fashioned moral standard.
01:04:11.000 Demand of a man an actual real commitment before you have sex with him and you will actually end up with a better life.
01:04:18.000 And lest anybody say, oh it's impossible, you can't do that, I was 24 and I got married, I was a virgin, my wife was 20 when she married me, she was also a virgin,
01:04:26.000 And guess what?
01:04:27.000 We have a wonderful, happy sex life.
01:04:28.000 We have two beautiful children.
01:04:29.000 We've been married for now, let's see, we were married in 2008.
01:04:32.000 So we've been married for eight years now.
01:04:34.000 And, you know, no end in sight.
01:04:36.000 Everything is going swimmingly.
01:04:38.000 And that's because we made a mutual commitment to each other before we decided to hop in the sack with one another.
01:04:42.000 And, by the way, the statistics prove this.
01:04:44.000 If you live with somebody before you're married, the chances of that marriage actually lasting are significantly lower than if you didn't live with them before you're married.
01:04:52.000 Strike one up for traditional marriage, or I guess you can do emo singing with Adele, if that's your thing.
01:04:58.000 Okay, so tomorrow, Thomas Sowell is joining the program, which is a great honor for us.
01:05:02.000 Obviously, one of the foremost public intellectuals in the United States.
01:05:05.000 He'll be joining us tomorrow.
01:05:06.000 I think Thursday we're going to have on Andrew Klavan, and we'll do a Jew versus Christian off.
01:05:11.000 And so that'll be fun.
01:05:12.000 And we'll talk about his new book.
01:05:14.000 I'm getting a lot of flack for posting about it.
01:05:15.000 I'll explain why I do that on the show on Thursday.
01:05:18.000 So that's coming up, plus the mailbags.
01:05:20.000 A lot more coming up this week.
01:05:21.000 Plus I'm sure there'll be new polls reflecting what happened in the debates last night.
01:05:25.000 For the moment, though, we sign off today.
01:05:27.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
01:05:28.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.