The Ben Shapiro Show - September 28, 2016


Ep. 188 - Stop Trump So We Won't Be Mean To Fat People!

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Trump has a whole new set of excuses to fall back into place after his disastrous performance in the first CNN primary debate. It's time for those who defend him to own it, or else they pave the way for him to lose the election. After all, if they keep allowing Trump to get away with excusing all of his failures by blaming somebody else, they'll be paving the way to his defeat. Losers whine about the playing conditions and the referees all the time. Winners change their game plans. That's what winners do. And Trump is the only one who can change his game plan, because it's his own fault that he's not running for president. Today's After Show Was Hosted By: Dr. Thomas Sowell, Professor of Political Science and Public Intellectuals at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, Dr. Sowell is the foremost public intellectual in the United States, and is a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, and other media outlets. He's also the author of several books, including The New Republic and The Weekly Standard, and has been featured on CNN, CBS, and NPR. His latest book is out now in paperback, The Dark Side of Trump: A Guide to Donald Trump: How Trump Is America's Most Influential Presidential Candidate Is the Most Powerful Man in America s Most Powerful Person in the 2016 Campaign. If you're interested in investing in precious metals and precious metals, you'll want to check out Birch Gold, Silver, Copper, and Metals, a 16 pages. They're a must-read guide to the best-selling investment guide, available in hardcover and paperback edition. They also have a 16-page guide on precious metals! and a 16 page kit that includes a free 16 pages worth of hardcover copies of the entire thing. . You can get all the information you need to help you get started investing in the stuff you'll need to start investing in some precious metals in the best of it all. You won't want to miss it. They're going to need to be sure to check it out. It's not only that! You'll get all that and more information about it! to get your own copy of the guide, so you won't have to wait for it, you can get it at 800-496-6663 and they'll get it in your inbox by calling 800-636-666663, 800-4137-661963.

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00:00:00.000 When Mitt Romney lost in 2012, there was very little discussion of blame.
00:00:03.000 Everyone assumed Romney simply lost because he didn't do a good enough job of convincing voters to punch the ballot for him.
00:00:09.000 He didn't debate Obama properly.
00:00:11.000 He didn't stand up to Candy Crowley.
00:00:13.000 He backed off the Benghazi issue or botched it completely.
00:00:15.000 He gratuitously insulted 47% of Americans.
00:00:19.000 Romney lost, Republicans generally believed, because Romney deserved to lose, even if he deserved to win morally.
00:00:25.000 That's not so for Donald Trump.
00:00:27.000 Never has a presidential candidate had so many ready-made excuses for his mess of a campaign.
00:00:32.000 Since the primaries, Trump's defenders have justified every single gaffe by saying, well, he's just a businessman.
00:00:37.000 His anti-conservative heresies have been excused with a wave of the hand and a comment of, well, conservatism has never accomplished anything anyway.
00:00:44.000 His general ignorance with regard to basic issues has been shrugged away.
00:00:48.000 He's learning. 0.69
00:00:49.000 His general unpopularity has been attributed.
00:00:51.000 Not to his own narcissistic nastiness, but to an unnamed group of conspirators out to get him. 0.74
00:00:56.000 Sometimes it's the evil Cuck-Never-Trumpers, like me, hiding in their holes, waiting to strike him down at any moment.
00:01:02.000 Sometimes it's the Machiavellian establishment seeking to crush this supposed change agent.
00:01:07.000 Sometimes it's a suspiciously defective earpiece forcing him to go soft on David Duke and the KKK.
00:01:13.000 Now, after his airplane vomit bag of a debate performance, a performance in which he spent the first 30 minutes bloodying Hillary Clinton, only to revert to insecure, incoherent offenses of birtherism, his business record, and his Iraq war opposition, Trump has a whole new set of excuses.
00:01:27.000 First, Trump's defenders attack his microphone.
00:01:29.000 Yep.
00:01:30.000 His microphone.
00:01:31.000 According to Trump, some nefarious conspiracy took place to sabotage his weapon of mass instruction, throwing him off his game, which seems both implausible and kind of irrelevant.
00:01:40.000 More realistically, Trump's defenders point out correctly that debate moderator Lester Holt hit Trump far harder than he hit Clinton.
00:01:46.000 Which is true.
00:01:47.000 Holt interrupted Trump way more frequently, although in Holt's defense, Trump bulldozed both him and Clinton routinely.
00:01:52.000 Holt asked Trump about birtherism and his Iraq war opposition and his IRS records and his mean comments about Clinton's look.
00:01:58.000 He didn't ask Hillary about the Clinton Foundation or Benghazi.
00:02:01.000 And he asked her zero follow-up questions about her private email server.
00:02:04.000 Holt clearly did do Clinton's dirty work.
00:02:06.000 Here's the question.
00:02:07.000 So what?
00:02:08.000 Trump has known the entire campaign the media would target him.
00:02:10.000 He said so before every debate.
00:02:12.000 He had the opportunity, every opportunity, to swivel and hit both Clinton and the media and he failed to do so.
00:02:17.000 That's on him.
00:02:18.000 This entire campaign, in the end, is on him.
00:02:21.000 It's nobody's fault but Trump's.
00:02:22.000 He spends the morning after the debate complaining about a Miss Universe contestant gaining too much weight.
00:02:27.000 It's nobody's fault but Trump's.
00:02:28.000 He ignored hitting Clinton over the Clinton Foundation so he could massage his own feelings over his prior business bankruptcies.
00:02:34.000 Trump is the candidate gang.
00:02:35.000 It's time for those who defend him to own it.
00:02:37.000 If they don't, if they keep allowing Trump to get away with excusing all of his failures by blaming somebody else, they'll be paving the way to his defeat. 0.94
00:02:44.000 Losers whine about the playing conditions and the referees all the time.
00:02:48.000 Winners change their game plans.
00:02:49.000 Those who whine for Trump won't be helping him win.
00:02:52.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:02:53.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:02:59.000 All righty, tons to get to here on The Ben Shapiro Show today.
00:03:02.000 In just a moment, we'll be joined by the guy who I think is the foremost public intellectual in the United States, Professor Thomas Sowell, who'll be joining us momentarily.
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00:04:14.000 There are a thousand holes in this story for the Democrats, and it's just, it's hypocrisy of the highest order from Hillary Clinton. 0.54
00:04:21.000 We will also be talking about more debate reactions from the left and the right, and what Trump can do differently next time.
00:04:27.000 Plus, we have an epic Things I Hate coming up in Bible Talk, so it's a big show today.
00:04:32.000 Lots to talk about.
00:04:33.000 Guys, do we have Professor Sowell ready?
00:04:35.000 Professor Sowell, thanks so much for joining the Ben Shapiro Show.
00:04:38.000 Thank you for having me.
00:04:58.000 In some societies it is.
00:04:58.000 I don't think that standard of living equalities are nearly as large as income equalities.
00:05:01.000 Because in these data, they leave out
00:05:23.000 Billions of dollars of government transfers which are taken largely from the top of the income scale and given to people at the bottom.
00:05:32.000 So the actual work living conditions are quite a lot less unequal than the data would suggest.
00:05:41.000 And yet politicians like to make hay out of the income inequality issue by suggesting people at the top are somehow exploiting people at the bottom.
00:05:49.000 And I want to ask you more about inequality in a second, but I want to start with sort of the presidential debate and what appears to be now the number one economic issue in these presidential debates.
00:05:57.000 Which is the fact that no one has ever read your book, Basic Economics, so nobody understands how free trade works.
00:06:02.000 So you have Donald Trump saying that NAFTA is the worst trade deal in the history of the world.
00:06:06.000 And you have Hillary Clinton saying, yeah, it was great back in the 90s, but now I decided it's bad. 0.98
00:06:11.000 Can you explain to people simply, because they're stupid, why it is that free trade is not bad and Donald Trump's idea of trade wars are really foolhardy? 0.85
00:06:22.000 First on NAFTA, the hard data show that in fact unemployment in the United States declined substantially in the years following the NAFTA agreement. 0.99
00:06:32.000 That was true in Canada as well.
00:06:35.000 In regards to trade differences, one of the great disasters in the history of this country was the Smoot-Hawley tariff in
00:06:45.000 I don't know.
00:07:02.000 We're good to go.
00:07:18.000 We're good to go.
00:07:34.000 And I also want to ask you about, Donald Trump makes a big point about currency manipulation.
00:07:38.000 He says the Chinese are inflating their currency or deflating their currency, and because they're moving their currency up and down, they're really destroying us on trade. 0.89
00:07:46.000 This always seems to me such a weird argument.
00:07:48.000 If inflating your currency were that successful, Venezuela and the Weimar Republic would have been absolute economic powerhouses.
00:07:53.000 But I'm just, I'm wondering why people put so much focus on currency manipulation.
00:07:58.000 Is there any, is there any truth to the idea that China manipulating its currency hurts us economically?
00:08:04.000 Oh, I'm sure that somebody is hurt by it somewhere, but that's true in all international trade, whether it's with or without currency manipulation.
00:08:13.000 There will always be people who lose jobs as a result of foreign competitors.
00:08:18.000 At the same time, we gain jobs because of free trade.
00:08:23.000 Hundreds of thousands if not millions of Americans working today for foreign companies such as Toyota or Nissan and others who have their plants in America.
00:08:35.000 So it's by no means clear that we're worse off because some jobs go abroad if the ones that come in are either larger in number or else better paid.
00:08:47.000 We're speaking with Professor Thomas Sowell, whose book is Wealth, Poverty, and Politics, among many of his other fantastic books, including Basic Economics, which is the primer that everybody should read if they're first getting interested in economics.
00:08:58.000 Professor Sowell, obviously a lot of the swing states in this particular election cycle, places like Ohio, like Pennsylvania, these are places that used to have much more heavy manufacturing base, and a lot of those jobs have left.
00:09:08.000 Donald Trump is trying to appeal to those people, so is Hillary Clinton.
00:09:11.000 Have we reached the end of the point in politics?
00:09:13.000 Do you think that there's going to be a resurgence at any point of the free trade mentality?
00:09:16.000 Because the polls seem to be moving heavily against free trade because it's so easy to look at sort of the targeted losses of free trade as opposed to the widespread gains.
00:09:25.000 That's prediction, which is very hazardous for economists.
00:09:29.000 But I think in the long run, common sense does tend to assert itself, but a lot of dire things can happen before that comes along.
00:09:39.000 It's wrong to talk about bringing back jobs that have left.
00:09:43.000 Many jobs have left because of counterproductive political policies, particularly in places like Detroit.
00:09:50.000 You notice that when foreign 1.00
00:09:54.000 Automobile manufacturers come to the United States.
00:09:56.000 They don't come to Detroit, where there's already a workforce that used to work in the big three auto plants.
00:10:03.000 They go elsewhere because the policies in Detroit have driven all kinds of businesses, domestic as well as foreign, out of the country.
00:10:14.000 I also wanted to ask you, Professor, about another issue just with regard to trade and protectionism.
00:10:19.000 Both candidates keep citing trade deficits as though trade deficits mean anything.
00:10:24.000 And you've written extensively about the fact that trade deficits can exist in good economies and bad economies.
00:10:29.000 Should we care about trade deficits?
00:10:31.000 No.
00:10:32.000 That's the easiest question of all.
00:10:34.000 As I mentioned earlier, we had a trade surplus for the entire decade of the 1930s, and that didn't do anything to get us out of the Great Depression.
00:10:46.000 We're good to go.
00:11:11.000 What are the solutions that people should be pursuing in inner-city black communities?
00:11:18.000 First of all, the big question is whether what they're asserting is true.
00:11:22.000 And the answer is it is not true.
00:11:24.000 Because there was more poverty in 1950, let's say, and more racism than today.
00:11:31.000 And yet you did not have riots in the 1950s such as we have today.
00:11:37.000 The murder rate went down.
00:11:39.000 We're good to go.
00:12:08.000 And because they want to talk about their theories and dogmas, it seems to be very successful in the black community.
00:12:13.000 Do you think that that's a factor of two generations of government dependence, or is that more a factor of just the natural human tendency to look for an outside force that's—to blame for the failures inside your own community?
00:12:26.000 Both.
00:12:27.000 Moreover, it's not peculiar to the United States or to blacks.
00:12:31.000 The very same phenomenon can be seen among lower-class whites in England, where there have been riots which are almost identical to the riots in Ferguson and Baltimore, right down to the rioters setting fire to police cars.
00:12:46.000 And it's the very same thing.
00:12:48.000 It's the notion that
00:12:50.000 Other people who are better off got that way by taking advantage of you, and that you have no hope, and that the system is rigged.
00:12:57.000 One of the phrases that constantly drives me crazy.
00:13:00.000 I never hear people explain just how it was rigged.
00:13:03.000 When they talk about economic matters, for example, they say the rich have rigged the system.
00:13:07.000 Well, my research shows that in 2015, the 400 richest people in the world lost an aggregate of $19 billion.
00:13:18.000 If this was rigging the system, it was a very incompetent job of doing it.
00:13:22.000 Well, the book is Wealth, Poverty, and Politics.
00:13:25.000 And Professor Sowell, you haven't—I'm still not sure where you're coming down in this election cycle.
00:13:29.000 I'm not voting for either candidate, because neither one of them meets my standard for basic human beings to be even breathing air sometimes, but mostly just to be holding office.
00:13:41.000 Obviously, I want them to live.
00:13:43.000 But the idea here is that, you know, my view is that neither candidate meets a basic standard.
00:13:47.000 Do you view this as a lesser of two evils election, as some people like Mark Levin have claimed?
00:13:52.000 Do you see this more as, we're screwed either way we go, so there's no reason to participate on the presidential level?
00:13:57.000 How do you come down on this?
00:14:00.000 Well, my preference would be to leave the office vacant for four years and hope for better things in 2016.
00:14:07.000 Unfortunately, that's not one of the options that we have.
00:14:10.000 I think it's going to be dangerous, and not merely bad, if either of them becomes president.
00:14:17.000 The question is where is the danger greatest, and more importantly, the most long-lasting.
00:14:22.000 And I think that even though Donald Trump has no coherent vision that looks that promising, Hillary Clinton does have a coherent vision.
00:14:36.000 And it's a world in which she can
00:14:39.000 By determining who's on the next Supreme Court.
00:14:42.000 For the next 50 years, law in America can be undermined.
00:14:47.000 The first and second amendments we can write off if she's allowed to put a majority on that court. 0.96
00:14:53.000 And so long after, whether it's Clinton or Trump, long after they leave office, the people they put on the Supreme Court will be a legacy for the next generation.
00:15:05.000 Yeah, and that's a logic I definitely hear.
00:15:13.000 My counter logic, just to not vote at all, has basically been, what I fear is that Donald Trump is doing a great job of perverting conservatism, and we're watching as many so-called conservative thought leaders have been shifting the very definition of conservatism to meet Trump.
00:15:27.000 So suddenly a bunch of people who used to be pro-free trade, for example, are embracing the protectionism of Donald Trump.
00:15:32.000 A bunch of people who wanted an entitlement reform
00:15:34.000 I think so.
00:15:46.000 I suspect that those positions will be as temporary as the Trump administration.
00:15:52.000 And so I don't think that the ideas are going to go away.
00:15:57.000 I mean, Jimmy Carter followed policies that appalled conservatives, but that didn't prevent Ronald Reagan from being elected after him.
00:16:05.000 Absolutely.
00:16:05.000 So the book is Wealth, Poverty, and Politics.
00:16:06.000 Professor Thomas Sowell is the guest.
00:16:08.000 Final question for you, Professor Sowell.
00:16:09.000 You obviously work at Stanford University. 0.62
00:16:12.000 Young people have a bizarre and outsized love for Bernie Sanders, who may or may not be the insane clown who we've been seeing cropping up in the woods in Florida, Ohio, and Virginia.
00:16:21.000 But how do you deal with the rising support for socialism among kids who don't even know what socialism really is?
00:16:29.000 Well, fortunately, I don't do any teaching, and so I don't deal with the academic world at all, which is the ideal situation as far as I'm concerned.
00:16:38.000 That definitely helps.
00:16:39.000 So the book, again, Wealth, Poverty, and Politics by Thomas Sowell, the foremost public intellectual, as I say, in the United States.
00:16:44.000 Professor Sowell, it's a real honor to have you on the show.
00:16:46.000 Thanks so much for joining us.
00:16:48.000 Thank you for having me.
00:16:50.000 So that's cool stuff, gang.
00:16:51.000 Okay, well, Professor Sowell is, again, the book is Wealth, Poverty, and Politics, and I can't recommend it highly enough.
00:16:57.000 Terrific, terrific book.
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00:18:53.000 So, let's talk about, let's talk about the desperation that is setting in among Democrats.
00:18:58.000 So, Donald Trump performs really poorly in the debate.
00:19:01.000 As I said yesterday, the first 30 minutes, he destroys Hillary Clinton. 0.99
00:19:04.000 The next 60 minutes, he basically falls apart.
00:19:07.000 But, you can still see that the Democrats are not comfortable.
00:19:10.000 Hillary's looking more comfortable out there, but they're now bringing out, they're finally beginning to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
00:19:16.000 So, first the desperation.
00:19:17.000 President Obama is very upset that people are thinking about voting third party.
00:19:21.000 Hillary can't break 45% in a lot of polls now because so many people are looking at Jill Stein and Gary Johnson. 0.99
00:19:27.000 President Obama is out there raving about this.
00:19:29.000 Here's the president.
00:19:31.000 If there's one message I want to deliver to everybody, if you don't vote, that's a vote for Trump.
00:19:39.000 If you don't vote, that's a vote for Trump.
00:19:41.000 If you vote for a third party candidate who's got no chance to win, that's a vote for Trump.
00:19:49.000 Alrighty, so he's making the same argument that people on the right side of the aisle argue about people like me.
00:19:53.000 If you vote third party, then it's a vote in favor of Donald Trump because it's not a vote in favor of Hillary Clinton.
00:19:58.000 They're trying to convince Gary Johnson voters, many of whom are Democrats, to come back into the fold and vote for Hillary Clinton.
00:20:04.000 We'll get in a moment to more of the Democrats' desperation, plus what I think is the big issue of the day, Hillary rolling out the sexism argument. 1.00
00:20:11.000 You knew it was coming, and now we finally hit it, and it's really stupid, and it's really bad, and I'll explain why at dailywired.com. 0.73
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00:20:23.000 It's a good book.
00:20:24.000 We're going to have him on tomorrow to talk about the book and why I, as a Jew, don't have tremendous objections to the book itself, even though it's about the conversion experience of an ethnic Jew.
00:20:34.000 Thank you so much.
00:21:08.000 Alrighty, so, here we are, and President Obama has given his desperation play, don't vote third party, please, please, please don't do it.
00:21:15.000 Howard Dean is out there saying that the former DNC chair, and Nutcase, you remember him, we're gonna go to Washington D.C.
00:21:21.000 and take back the White House!
00:21:23.000 You remember him. 0.96
00:21:25.000 He now says that Donald Trump uses cocaine.
00:21:27.000 He was saying this on national TV.
00:21:29.000 So following a bunch of sniffles, Governor Dean, you wrote on Twitter, notice Trump sniffing all the time.
00:21:35.000 Coke user?
00:21:36.000 Why did you go there?
00:21:38.000 You can't make a diagnosis over the television.
00:21:41.000 I would never do that, but he has some interesting... That is actually a signature of people who use cocaine.
00:21:48.000 I'm not suggesting that Trump does, but... Well, you are suggesting it, actually, in a tweet.
00:21:53.000 No, I'm suggesting we think about it, because here's the interesting constellation.
00:21:57.000 So, he sniffs during the...
00:21:59.000 During the presentation, which is something that users do.
00:22:03.000 He also has grandiosity, which is something that accompanies that problem.
00:22:07.000 He has delusions.
00:22:09.000 I'm not talking about being crazy, but for example, when he told everybody he was very smart not to pay taxes and then denied he said it after he said it in front of a hundred million people.
00:22:18.000 It's not that he's delusory about it.
00:22:20.000 It's that he thinks somehow he's not going to get caught.
00:22:23.000 That is delusional.
00:22:25.000 Okay, so this is how desperate the Democrats are. 0.97
00:22:28.000 Donald Trump, believe it or not, is a teetotaler.
00:22:29.000 He doesn't drink, which means that his drunk uncle routine is even more incredible that he's doing that sober.
00:22:34.000 But nonetheless, he doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, but the Democrats are desperate.
00:22:40.000 So they're doing this routine now.
00:22:41.000 CNN's Don Lemon, he says that Trump isn't even aware that he's racially insensitive. 0.95
00:22:45.000 It's not that he's a racist, he's just so racist he doesn't even know he's a racist.
00:22:50.000 I think Donald Trump believes as much as he can that he's not racist.
00:23:00.000 I think that he is not aware of his insensitivity towards race and towards people of color.
00:23:09.000 Okay, so very convenient answers from all of the people who oppose Donald Trump.
00:23:13.000 He's not even aware that he's a racist.
00:23:15.000 Okay, so, that means that the Democrats are trying to trot out everything now because this is the time when they think they're going to put this away.
00:23:20.000 Between the first debate and the second debate, they're going to trash Trump, he's going to go down in the polls, and they're finally going to destroy him.
00:23:26.000 It's going to be over.
00:23:28.000 Avatar of Destruction is going to be a woman named Alicia Machado. 0.99
00:23:32.000 Now, you remember, we talked about this in the debate yesterday, that Donald Trump in the debate, Hillary Clinton, at a certain point, she said, there's a woman who used to be a Miss Universe contestant for you, and you called her Miss Piggy, and you called her Miss Housekeeping, because she was Latina, and you're a sexist, basically.
00:23:46.000 And Trump got all flustered, and he didn't know what to say, and then he said, well, I could say very mean things about your family, but I'm not going to do that, because I'm a nice guy. 0.98
00:23:55.000 It was ridiculous.
00:23:57.000 Hillary Clinton is now tweeting out videos of this woman, Alicia Machado, and what she's tweeting out is, she's tweeting out this video basically saying anybody, any person who does not, any person who insults a woman on the basis of her weight cannot be President of the United States. 0.88
00:24:14.000 This is the direct quote.
00:24:15.000 A man who bullies and shames a woman for her weight should never become President.
00:24:21.000 Okay, so I have a few issues with this particular formulation.
00:24:25.000 A man who bullies and shames a woman for her weight should never become president.
00:24:27.000 First of all, if you can name me any man who has never made a joke about a woman's weight, they don't exist. 0.98
00:24:35.000 If you can name me a woman who's never made a joke about a woman's weight,
00:24:40.000 Then show me that person, okay?
00:24:43.000 The office of the presidency will be, as Dr. Sewell wanted, as Professor Sewell wanted, unoccupied.
00:24:48.000 There'll be no one left in the United States who's never said anything bad about another woman's weight. 0.84
00:24:52.000 Taylor, have you ever met a girl who's never said anything bad about any woman's weight at any point?
00:24:56.000 Nope, Taylor has not.
00:24:57.000 Dudes, ever met anybody who's never said anything bad about a woman's weight?
00:25:01.000 No, they don't exist.
00:25:02.000 These people don't exist. 0.98
00:25:03.000 Now, it's not the same thing as saying something directly mean to a woman about her own weight, obviously, but that just means you're nasty. 0.85
00:25:09.000 It doesn't mean that you can't be president. 0.99
00:25:10.000 Hillary Clinton's a nasty piece of good. 1.00
00:25:12.000 She bullied an alleged rape victim, Juanita Broderick. 1.00
00:25:14.000 I mean, that seems to me a lot more troublesome than him calling Miss Universe contestant Miss Piggy.
00:25:20.000 By the way,
00:25:21.000 We're good to go.
00:25:37.000 Sorry to break it to you folks.
00:25:38.000 If you're Miss Universe, it's a beauty contest.
00:25:40.000 In beauty contests, if you win, the obligation is for you not to become fat, right?
00:25:45.000 That's actually in the contract.
00:25:46.000 And so, how did the media cover it?
00:25:48.000 Okay, headline from People Magazine, 1997, about this woman, Alicia Machado, quote, weight of the world.
00:25:54.000 That's the name of the story from People Magazine.
00:25:57.000 May 1997.
00:25:58.000 Female Orlando Sentinel writer calls Alicia Machado, quote, a blimped-out reigning queen. 0.99
00:26:02.000 That'd be Charles Hoskin, and he writes for the Washington Examiners, did this research.
00:26:06.000 CNN, quote, some people, when they have pressure, eat too much, like me, like Alicia.
00:26:11.000 Quoting Donald Trump, 1997, CNN also said, as her universe expanded, so did her waistline. 0.98
00:26:17.000 That's a quote from CNN, okay? 1.00
00:26:19.000 So let's cut out this whole high and mighty, anybody who makes a joke about the fat girl, it's the end of the world, no one can, now does that mean you're not a jerk? 1.00
00:26:26.000 No, of course, of course you're a jerk. 1.00
00:26:27.000 Of course he's a jerk, okay? 1.00
00:26:29.000 If this is your first rodeo and you're just learning Donald Trump is a nasty piece of goods, 1.00
00:26:34.000 Welcome. 0.99
00:26:35.000 He's a nasty piece of good. 0.98
00:26:36.000 Does that mean he can't be president of the United States? 0.98
00:26:39.000 No, of course not. 1.00
00:26:39.000 This is so stupid. 1.00
00:26:42.000 And there's something sexist about this, too. 1.00
00:26:44.000 Hillary Clinton says any man who says anything bad about a woman's weight, who bullies and shames a woman about her weight, cannot be president.
00:26:52.000 I was under the impression women were strong. 1.00
00:26:54.000 I thought Hillary's whole pitch is, we tough things out. 0.99
00:26:57.000 I toughed out pneumonia.
00:26:59.000 Women are so strong. 1.00
00:27:00.000 Women not only give birth, they can pull trains. 1.00
00:27:03.000 Women are so—they're emotionally strong. 1.00
00:27:05.000 They handle things men couldn't even dream of handling.
00:27:09.000 Okay, if that's true, then how about Chris Christie, okay?
00:27:11.000 Like, everybody in the United States has made jokes about Chris Christie.
00:27:14.000 He was on the cover of Time Magazine, and the headline was, The Elephant in the Room.
00:27:19.000 That was the headline at Time Magazine.
00:27:21.000 I, myself, have made an enormous number of fat jokes about Chris Christie, and Donald Trump, and Newt Gingrich, and everybody else in the Republican Party who's overweight, right? 0.98
00:27:30.000 I mean, I've called Donald Trump a fat old bloated sack, right? 0.94
00:27:34.000 Does Donald Trump collapse over that? 0.98
00:27:35.000 No, he doesn't.
00:27:36.000 So is the idea that if you say that about a woman, the woman is weaker?
00:27:39.000 Hillary Clinton's vision of what women are is so insulting to actual women, it's unbelievable. 0.97
00:27:45.000 Her actual vision of what women are is they sit around all day long and listen to fight song, eating ice cream, and then if a guy makes a mean comment about their weight, they go and purge. 1.00
00:27:54.000 That's Hillary's vision of what a single woman in America is. 1.00
00:27:58.000 And so, any man who says anything bad about a single— Look, again, does that mean he's not a jerk? 1.00
00:28:02.000 Of course he's a jerk! 1.00
00:28:03.000 We all know he's a jerk. 1.00
00:28:04.000 I've been saying it for a year that he's a jerk. 1.00
00:28:06.000 Everyone knows he's a jackass. 1.00
00:28:08.000 But the idea that Donald Trump's jackassery, like his general jackassery, is disqualifying? 1.00
00:28:13.000 Read a book, for God's sake. 0.95
00:28:16.000 John F. Kennedy was schtupping everything he could find in the White House. 1.00
00:28:19.000 LBJ was a piece of vulgar crap. 1.00
00:28:21.000 LBJ was a nasty, nasty man. 1.00
00:28:24.000 Hillary Clinton was cursing out military members supposedly for wearing a uniform. 0.99
00:28:27.000 She was throwing lamps at people. 0.98
00:28:29.000 This idea that the office of the presidency is occupied only by the most dignified among us.
00:28:34.000 I mean, come on!
00:28:35.000 Her husband was getting particular pleasures in the Oval Office from
00:28:41.000 We're good to go. 1.00
00:28:58.000 This is so dumb. 1.00
00:28:59.000 This stuff is so dumb. 1.00
00:29:00.000 And Hillary, like, if she thinks that a lot of voters are gonna swivel on a dime, you know what? 1.00
00:29:06.000 He called the fat Miss Universe a fatty. 0.97
00:29:09.000 The overweight Miss Universe, he called her Miss Piggy. 1.00
00:29:11.000 I guess we're gonna shift, you know, I guess we can't vote for him anymore.
00:29:14.000 For God's sake, he mocked a disabled reporter, called John McCain not a war hero, and went easy on the KKK, and attacked a Gold Star family, and here's where you're gonna draw the line, guy?
00:29:25.000 This is the point where you say I've had enough of this guy?
00:29:27.000 Back in the 1980s he said women should be treated like bleep. 1.00
00:29:30.000 He said nothing in life matters so long as you have a young and beautiful piece of ass. 1.00
00:29:33.000 Okay, these are direct quotes from Donald Trump. 1.00
00:29:35.000 But here's where you're going to draw the line that he called this lady Miss Piggy.
00:29:38.000 By the way, no verification that this ever happened.
00:29:41.000 No verification, like she said it happened, but we have no verification.
00:29:45.000 But it doesn't matter.
00:29:46.000 They have to convince all the women that Donald Trump is a sexist. 0.96
00:29:48.000 First of all, I do actually think Donald Trump is kind of a sexist. 1.00
00:29:51.000 I also think that he's, he may not be a sexist, maybe he's just a jerk to everyone. 1.00
00:29:55.000 I think the best evidence he's a sexist is the stuff about Ted Cruz's wife, she's ugly, the fact that he's constantly marrying models and then cheating on them with other models. 0.96
00:30:03.000 Okay, I don't think this is a guy who tremendously respects women in any serious way, but if this is your best example, is Alicia Machado, there are a few holes in this theory.
00:30:12.000 Let me name a couple of them.
00:30:13.000 First, Alicia Machado, this innocent young woman, totally victimized, really, really victimized by Donald Trump.
00:30:21.000 It turns out that she was a suspect in 1998 as an accomplice to a murder.
00:30:26.000 Okay, and then she allegedly threatened the judge with killing him. 1.00
00:30:30.000 Also, in 2008, it was reported she gave birth to a narco lord, a drug lord's baby, and a bunch of other drug lords attended the birth.
00:30:38.000 She just became a citizen.
00:30:39.000 So first of all, we should start asking some questions about our immigration system.
00:30:42.000 I mean, seriously.
00:30:43.000 Like, people who were murder suspects at one point and weren't prosecuted in Venezuela, which is not known for its fantastic justice system, and then get pregnant by drug lords in Mexico, which is, I think, where this was. 0.98
00:30:54.000 I don't know why they're getting citizenship, that's another question, but if that's your great example of the woman who's victimized by sexism, you could have picked a better, there are a thousand better examples of Donald Trump being a sexist jackass. 0.97
00:31:05.000 Okay, but it doesn't matter, this is the pitch. 1.00
00:31:07.000 So Barbara Boxer, legitimately the stupidest woman in the history of the United States Senate. 1.00
00:31:11.000 There are smart women in the United States Senate, Barbara Boxer just isn't one of them. 1.00
00:31:15.000 She says that Donald Trump interrupting Hillary during the debate was a disrespect of women. 0.99
00:31:20.000 Let me just point out.
00:31:21.000 Donald Trump interrupted incessantly during the primaries every man he could find. 1.00
00:31:26.000 Donald Trump is a jerk to everyone. 1.00
00:31:28.000 But according to Barbara Boxer, he only interrupted Hillary because Hillary's a woman and he couldn't deal with the woman talking. 1.00
00:31:33.000 By the time the debate was over, Trump had interrupted her 51 times, where she interrupted him just 17 times.
00:31:41.000 Does that read to you as a disrespect?
00:31:43.000 Absolutely.
00:31:44.000 It's a disrespect of women. 1.00
00:31:46.000 I can tell you.
00:31:46.000 I remember very well the first time I took office in a local office.
00:31:51.000 I couldn't get three words out, Tamron, before my male colleagues jumped down my throat.
00:31:57.000 It's something that they do.
00:31:58.000 I don't even think they realize it.
00:32:00.000 But I think Donald Trump did realize it.
00:32:03.000 I think Donald Trump did really. 1.00
00:32:04.000 Okay, this is the same stupid woman who said about a military member, can you call me, can you call me Senator? 1.00
00:32:10.000 He called her ma'am. 1.00
00:32:11.000 And she said, can you call me Senator?
00:32:12.000 I earned that.
00:32:12.000 Like she's looking for sexism behind every tree.
00:32:15.000 It's not sexist by the way for me to call her a stupid woman. 1.00
00:32:17.000 She is a stupid woman. 1.00
00:32:19.000 If she were a man, I would call her a stupid man. 1.00
00:32:21.000 I call Donald Trump stupid all the time. 1.00
00:32:22.000 But this is the way the left plays the game, is that if you say something about a woman that you would obviously say about a man, you must be a sexist. 1.00
00:32:29.000 And that's why Hillary, the way Hillary tweeted it was, a man who insults a woman's weight can't be president. 0.97
00:32:34.000 But apparently a woman who insults a woman's weight, she can be president. 1.00
00:32:36.000 By the way, women are much tougher on women than men are. 1.00
00:32:40.000 Women are, when it comes to looks, women are a thousand times tougher. 1.00
00:32:42.000 Women don't even dress for men. 1.00
00:32:44.000 Okay? 0.61
00:32:44.000 Because the fact is that if a woman were dressing for a man, she wouldn't get dressed. 0.61
00:32:48.000 Women dress for women. 1.00
00:32:50.000 This is why a woman can change her haircut and her husband won't notice, but all of her friends will.
00:32:55.000 Women care much more about women's looks than men do as a general rule. 1.00
00:32:58.000 Men want women to be pretty, but the idea that men sit around thinking about, well, I mean, she really has the wrong haircut. 1.00
00:33:06.000 Scarlett Johansson could get a buzz cut and wear blue lipstick and men would think she's sexy. 1.00
00:33:12.000 This whole thing is ridiculous.
00:33:13.000 Okay, so Alicia Machado was on Megyn Kelly last night and Megyn Kelly asks her some questions. 1.00
00:33:20.000 They seem to be denying the specific charges Hillary leveled, which is the language of Miss Piggy and Miss Housekeeping.
00:33:28.000 Was anybody there to witness when he said those things to you?
00:33:33.000 Well, first, I want to say thank you to give to me this space and to share my story with Mr. Trump.
00:33:45.000 Then, this happened 20 years ago.
00:33:50.000 And, you know, I don't need to share this story if I don't believe that person is not the right person then.
00:34:02.000 Being a president, or trying to be a president.
00:34:07.000 This happened 20 years ago.
00:34:09.000 In that moment, he was not the person that you can see now.
00:34:15.000 Maybe he was more just a business guy.
00:34:20.000 And I was a little girl too, with 18 years old.
00:34:26.000 And you know, the only thing I want to do is to share my story.
00:34:34.000 She just wants to share her story.
00:34:35.000 Isn't that moving?
00:34:36.000 She shows up just in time for the presidential election after being missing for 20 years in action while being suspected of being an accomplice in a murder and also getting pregnant by a drug lord, apparently.
00:34:47.000 And she shows up just in time to vote for Hillary Clinton and rip into Trump for things that he said back in 1997. 0.78
00:34:52.000 Honestly, I'm more bothered by Donald Trump attacking the other person on the screen, Megyn Kelly, over her period than I am about stuff that Donald Trump said in 1997 about a Miss Universe contestant again. 0.91
00:35:02.000 I'm not making the case he's not a jackass, folks. 0.84
00:35:04.000 I'm the number one Donald Trump is a jackass advocate in the United States, but that doesn't mean that this is the kind of thing Hillary is saying it is, that it's the end of the world. 0.97
00:35:12.000 This is the thing that breaks you on him. 0.96
00:35:14.000 If this breaks you on Donald Trump, my God.
00:35:16.000 I mean, if this is where you're... Now it's over the top.
00:35:18.000 Now he called her Miss Piggy.
00:35:19.000 Now it's over the top.
00:35:21.000 Man, imagine if he called her Fozzie the Bear.
00:35:23.000 So Machado was also on CNN and then she was asked about all these allegations about complicity in murder by Anderson Cooper and she does not have some very good answers.
00:35:33.000 An incident in 1998 in Venezuela where you were accused of driving a getaway car from a murder scene.
00:35:39.000 You were never charged with this.
00:35:41.000 The judge in the case also said you threatened to kill him after he indicted your boyfriend for the attempted murder.
00:35:47.000 I just want to give you a chance
00:35:48.000 To address these reports that the Trump surrogates are talking about.
00:35:53.000 He can say whatever he wants to say.
00:35:56.000 I don't care.
00:35:57.000 You know, I have my past.
00:35:58.000 Of course, everybody has.
00:36:00.000 Everybody has a past.
00:36:03.000 And I'm not a think girl.
00:36:10.000 But that is not the point now.
00:36:12.000 That moment in Venezuela was wrong.
00:36:19.000 Was another speculation about my life because I'm a really famous person in my country because I'm an actress there and in Mexico too.
00:36:31.000 And he can use whatever he wants to use.
00:36:35.000 The point is that happened 20 years ago.
00:36:40.000 Okay, so she's not a saint girl.
00:36:41.000 Everybody has experiences in life like almost being an alleged accomplice in a murder and having sex with a drug lord.
00:36:46.000 We all have that experience.
00:36:48.000 I mean, I know I've had that experience at least several times.
00:36:50.000 I mean, come on.
00:36:51.000 But the media are going to push this as far forward as they can go. 0.91
00:36:55.000 Now, that does not absolve Trump of being really crappy at this.
00:36:57.000 Now, Trump continues to just be adult because he has no other speed. 0.52
00:37:01.000 Again, when you nominate a joke for the presidency, you can't be surprised when people laugh.
00:37:05.000 Donald Trump, now apparently his camp wants to bring up all of Bill's women. 0.98
00:37:10.000 And Donald Trump says that he decided not to bring up Bill's women in the debate.
00:37:13.000 You remember his reaction to all of this was to say, I could say very mean things about the Clintons, but I won't say mean things about the Clintons.
00:37:20.000 You remember this.
00:37:20.000 So now here's Donald Trump explaining why he didn't say the mean things about the Clintons.
00:37:26.000 Is that what you mentioned?
00:37:27.000 You know, I had something I could bring up, but I didn't want to bring it up?
00:37:30.000 Yeah, having to do with her husband.
00:37:32.000 Many people thought that... All of the women. 1.00
00:37:34.000 Yeah, they sort of thought that was it.
00:37:37.000 And I didn't feel comfortable doing it.
00:37:39.000 I think I did the right thing.
00:37:40.000 It's not worth a point.
00:37:42.000 I didn't feel comfortable doing it with Chelsea in the room.
00:37:45.000 I think Chelsea's a fine young lady. 1.00
00:37:47.000 I didn't like doing it with Chelsea in the room.
00:38:02.000 It was an exercise
00:38:20.000 And yet her husband has admitted to having affairs and, of course, including one with an intern in the White House when he was President of the United States, paid out a settlement to Paula Jones.
00:38:31.000 The last time I didn't sexually harass someone, I didn't give them $700,000 in a settlement.
00:38:36.000 So instead of going there, he explained, hey, I'm prepared to do that.
00:38:40.000 I knew this was coming, but I'm not going to do it because your husband and your daughter are here.
00:38:45.000 And then he went on to say, and yet this doesn't stop you, Hillary Clinton, from running hundreds of millions of dollars of negative ads against me.
00:38:53.000 Those are just the ads you see, by the way.
00:38:54.000 We now have these mail pieces that are about Trump and women going to independent Republican-leading women in states like Florida.
00:39:01.000 We just got those yesterday brought to our attention.
00:39:04.000 So I think this will grow in importance over the next couple of days when people realize what he didn't say, what was conspicuous by its absence.
00:39:12.000 It doesn't mean people won't think it, though.
00:39:13.000 It doesn't mean that they already haven't made up their own minds.
00:39:15.000 I mean, it's just a magical example.
00:39:18.000 I mean, it was just, I thought it was just, it was a magical example of what a deeply vulnerable and decent human being Donald Trump is.
00:39:25.000 First of all, he shouldn't be talking about like Jennifer Flowers anyway.
00:39:28.000 If he's going to talk about this stuff, talk about the fact, talk about
00:39:30.000 I don't know.
00:39:53.000 They're not—they're not good at this.
00:39:54.000 Donald Trump is going around not talking about Juanita Broderick, but still talking about how Alicia Machado was a fatty fat McFatFat.
00:40:00.000 OK? 0.56
00:40:00.000 That's just—it's bad politics. 0.56
00:40:02.000 It's really, really stupid. 1.00
00:40:03.000 OK. 0.99
00:40:03.000 All of that said, all of that said, the debate reactions, it's now clear that—if you didn't know who won the debate, you should be able to tell from the debate reactions. 0.99
00:40:12.000 Here's Hillary Clinton reacting to the debate, and this is the most lifelike she's looked the entire time.
00:40:17.000 It's as though she swallowed an actual human, and that human is now coming out in her actual personage.
00:40:22.000 What about his stamina?
00:40:24.000 What about his stamina?
00:40:26.000 Anybody who complains about the microphone is not having a good night.
00:40:32.000 At what grade would you give Lester Holt?
00:40:35.000 I'd give him a C.
00:41:00.000 I thought he was okay.
00:41:01.000 I thought he was fine.
00:41:03.000 You can check the box.
00:41:04.000 I mean, nothing outstanding.
00:41:04.000 I thought he gave me very unfair questions at the end, the last three, four questions, but, you know, I'm not complaining about that.
00:41:11.000 I thought he was okay.
00:41:12.000 Okay.
00:41:13.000 Well, you've got to go and take a shower.
00:41:14.000 Thank you, Trump.
00:41:15.000 Thank you very much.
00:41:16.000 Thank you, Mr. Trump.
00:41:16.000 Thank you.
00:41:17.000 Even Laura Ingram, who is not just on the Trump train, she's actually an official conductor of the Trump train, she said that Trump did not do a particularly good job in this debate.
00:41:27.000 I think tonight Donald Trump probably learned a lot about debating.
00:41:31.000 He never has done a one-on-one debate before.
00:41:33.000 It's a different animal from being up against eight or ten other people.
00:41:37.000 And I think in the beginning he was kind of like his old self. 1.00
00:41:42.000 As it went on, I felt like he was responding to stupid questions too often. 0.99
00:41:48.000 Taxes, that's already been litigated. 1.00
00:41:50.000 He's not going to release his taxes.
00:41:51.000 He's already said why.
00:41:52.000 That's not the burning issue on the minds of the American public.
00:41:56.000 Sean, I know you know the same thing when the issue of cyber security was mentioned.
00:42:00.000 That was begging for Donald Trump to say, wait a second, is this a joke question?
00:42:04.000 Like a woman who had like a private server in some bathroom somewhere that wasn't as secure as Gmail is going to lecture us on cybersecurity. 1.00
00:42:12.000 So that having been said, those moments were left on the table, missed opportunities.
00:42:18.000 What you saw tonight was, I think, an image of strength.
00:42:23.000 And an adamant defense of the everyman versus yesterday.
00:42:28.000 And then we get to the spin, right?
00:42:29.000 Then we get to the routine where she talks about how actually he was wonderful.
00:42:32.000 So despite the fact that he was terrible, he actually was wonderful because obviously he has to be.
00:42:37.000 I mean, this is Hannity with special guest Laura Ingram.
00:42:40.000 So that means that everything is really great.
00:42:43.000 Now I do want to posit this one theory.
00:42:44.000 It's possible, it's possible that Donald Trump doesn't end up in a bad position after this debate simply because he was aiming in the first 30 minutes with all of the economic fallacies that we talked about with Professor Sowell, he wasn't aiming at the broad American public, he was aiming at the swing states.
00:42:59.000 He was aiming at Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Hampshire, Wisconsin.
00:43:01.000 Those states are very, very heavy in white, non-college educated voters.
00:43:07.000 36.4% of the electorate in 2012 in Pennsylvania, white, non-college educated.
00:43:11.000 Colorado, that's 37%.
00:43:12.000 New Hampshire, 45%.
00:43:14.000 Wisconsin, 49%.
00:43:16.000 Those are all states where Trump is competitive.
00:43:18.000 He's even competitive now in Minnesota, where it's 44.6%.
00:43:22.000 Again, all the states that have that sort of population, Trump was aiming at those.
00:43:26.000 It's possible the first half hour outweighs his sort of collapse over the last two-thirds of the debate, so we've yet to see that.
00:43:32.000 There are a couple polls out today showing that Hillary has a pretty significant boost. 0.91
00:43:35.000 The morning consult poll has her jumping four points.
00:43:37.000 There's another poll today that has her up 45-40. 0.83
00:43:40.000 We'll see if that lasts.
00:43:41.000 She hasn't been able to pull away so far.
00:43:43.000 We'll see what happens.
00:43:45.000 Okay, time for some things that I like and then some things that I hate.
00:43:47.000 So, things I like, it's Thomas Sowell Day.
00:43:49.000 So, one of my favorite Thomas Sowell books, as I mentioned, I've read virtually everything that he's written, is The Quest for Cosmic Justice.
00:43:55.000 This is a brilliant, brilliant book.
00:43:57.000 I've cited the title many times in speeches.
00:44:00.000 The basic idea in The Quest for Cosmic Justice is that what drives the left is hatred for natural conditions.
00:44:06.000 Okay, other things that I like.
00:44:30.000 I have to admit, I am not a big fan, as a general rule, of public displays of affection.
00:44:35.000 I reserve my public displays of affection for my wife for private.
00:44:39.000 It's just my thing.
00:44:40.000 I think that, you know, your relationship is your business.
00:44:43.000 I don't know why it should have to be my business.
00:44:46.000 Just my general thing.
00:44:47.000 So one of the things that drives me nuts is these people, excuse me, who do proposals at sports games.
00:44:52.000 This drives me crazy.
00:44:54.000 I just want to watch the ballgame.
00:44:55.000 I don't want you to propose to your girlfriend.
00:44:57.000 I don't know why in the world you think it would be a nice thing to propose in front of 70,000 people.
00:45:01.000 What if she hates you?
00:45:02.000 What if she wants to break up with you that day? 1.00
00:45:05.000 Roping me into your wedding proposal is not my favorite thing to do.
00:45:08.000 I didn't even have a good wedding proposal story.
00:45:11.000 My wedding proposal to my wife was me finally convincing her that she should marry her, her saying yes, and me saying great.
00:45:17.000 That was the actual proposal story.
00:45:20.000 Fantastic story.
00:45:21.000 I didn't do this whole routine where you pre-plan some fancy thing where a helicopter descends with a dog in the helicopter and the dog has a ring hanging from its neck and the dog has to ride a pony into a sports stadium in front of 70,000 people where he finally proposed after handing her a dozen white roses and a turtle dove.
00:45:40.000 Like, I think that stuff is just not my cup of tea.
00:45:44.000 I understand some people love these sorts of romantic gestures.
00:45:47.000 My romantic gesture was, I want to spend the rest of my life with you, build a family with you, and have children.
00:45:52.000 Like, my proposal to me was the point when I actually proposed, and she decided to say yes anything after that.
00:45:57.000 And so that led to, because I'm sort of serious about this sort of stuff,
00:46:02.000 When we went and we got her engagement ring, we bought her engagement ring together.
00:46:04.000 I wanted her to get something she liked.
00:46:06.000 I didn't want to surprise her with something in bad taste.
00:46:08.000 And it turns out that she doesn't like the ring that says on it, bling, for her engagement.
00:46:13.000 So we went and we bought it together.
00:46:15.000 When I finally got it from the jeweler and I brought it home for her, I just gave it to her.
00:46:20.000 I said, your ring came.
00:46:21.000 Here it is.
00:46:21.000 And should you not even get down on one knee?
00:46:24.000 And I said, well, but we already know we're getting married and everything.
00:46:28.000 And she says, well, at least get down on one knee.
00:46:31.000 Come on! 0.61
00:46:32.000 And I said, fine, fine.
00:46:33.000 I got down on one knee.
00:46:34.000 All right, fine.
00:46:35.000 So, in any case, that's all preface to this story, which I love.
00:46:40.000 This guy wanted to propose to his girlfriend at Yankee Stadium, and things go wildly wrong.
00:46:47.000 Fumbles right away.
00:46:48.000 I mean, he's nervous.
00:46:49.000 This is, like, one of the big moments of his life, and now he can't find the ring.
00:46:53.000 The box is empty.
00:46:55.000 Oh, that poor guy.
00:46:58.000 Maybe somehow he can come up with this.
00:46:59.000 Oh, look.
00:46:59.000 Oh, look at this poor guy.
00:47:01.000 Maybe he can come up with the save somehow.
00:47:03.000 You get it?
00:47:05.000 He needs Mariano to come in for the save.
00:47:07.000 Yeah, he does.
00:47:10.000 Wait a minute.
00:47:10.000 They're smiling.
00:47:11.000 Yes!
00:47:11.000 He found it!
00:47:13.000 Oh! 0.60
00:47:15.000 Oh, that's great.
00:47:18.000 He's on one knee.
00:47:19.000 That is awesome.
00:47:20.000 Oh, she better say yeah now. 0.98
00:47:22.000 Oh, that poor guy.
00:47:23.000 Congratulations.
00:47:26.000 Okay, so that is richly deserved.
00:47:28.000 You're holding up all of humanity.
00:47:30.000 I know there are certain people, like Dennis Prager loves this kind of thing, because he thinks that it sets an example for the rest of society about how to get married.
00:47:36.000 Since I think that marriage is between me and my wife, and I think that my community matters to me, the people who I invite will matter to me, but I don't think that
00:47:43.000 I don't care what random strangers think of my marriage.
00:47:46.000 At all.
00:47:47.000 Like, at all.
00:47:48.000 I find that whole thing rather hilarious.
00:47:51.000 Okay, time for Let's Do It, some things that I hate.
00:47:58.000 Sue, Mary J. Blige is a human, and Mary J. Blige sang a song to Hillary.
00:48:03.000 She's decided that it's important that Hillary knows her thoughts about cops murdering black people in apparently less than proportional numbers if you actually follow real statistics.
00:48:12.000 But she sings a song to Hillary Clinton about racism in the police force.
00:48:16.000 If an officer stops you, always be polite.
00:48:24.000 And never ever run away.
00:48:27.000 Promise mama you'll keep your hands inside.
00:48:33.000 Is it a gun?
00:48:35.000 Is it a knife?
00:48:36.000 Is it a wallet?
00:48:38.000 This is your life.
00:48:40.000 It ain't no secret.
00:48:46.000 Hillary's like, I am so white, I have no idea what's going on.
00:48:49.000 Hillary looks so confused.
00:49:05.000 I don't know.
00:49:23.000 This is the most awkward thing since Bill tried to woo me wearing underwear and playing the saxophone. 0.94
00:49:28.000 And first of all, the whole thing is ridiculous.
00:49:31.000 We've reached the point in Feelings America where you can't even make a coherence argument. 0.80
00:49:36.000 So your coherence argument is singing about guns and knives to the former Secretary of State and presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
00:49:44.000 I'll put this half on Hillary because she sat for this. 1.00
00:49:46.000 If this wins her any votes, good for her. 0.62
00:49:48.000 I mean, I guess it's worth the humiliation.
00:49:50.000 But I don't know what's going through Mary J. Blige's mind.
00:49:53.000 Sorry, Hillary, I have a thought. 1.00
00:49:56.000 I think the cops are murdering all the black folks. 1.00
00:50:00.000 And there's Hillary going, 1.00
00:50:04.000 Okay, all right. 0.60
00:50:05.000 This is politics in 2016, and we all want to hang ourselves.
00:50:09.000 Okay, other things that I hate.
00:50:11.000 So Sean Hannity was very, very upset with members of the media yesterday, and I have to preface this.
00:50:18.000 I just have to say this.
00:50:18.000 Sean is legitimately one of the nicer people I've ever met.
00:50:21.000 Sean is a wonderful, wonderful guy on an interpersonal level, but what he says here is so mind-boggling that I can't avoid playing it.
00:50:29.000 So, the debates about the old standard, let's memorize our lines, let's regurgitate them robotically, and let's get our zingers in there that somebody else wrote, well that's disconnected from the real suffering of real people caused by government.
00:50:43.000 Now, my overpaid friends in the media, well, they have their chauffeur-driven limousines, they like their fine steakhouses and expensive wine lifestyles.
00:50:52.000 None of them are feeling this.
00:50:53.000 The people you're watching on TV.
00:50:55.000 And therein lies the contempt.
00:50:57.000 Okay, so all the media elites have contempt for you because their limos and their steaks and their fancy wine.
00:51:04.000 I just want to point something out.
00:51:06.000 Sean Hannity makes $29 million a year.
00:51:10.000 Sean Hannity has a private jet.
00:51:12.000 He flies on a private jet.
00:51:14.000 Sean Hannity likes steak.
00:51:15.000 I know that because we have a lot of mutual friends.
00:51:18.000 Sean Hannity likes fine wine.
00:51:20.000 He's very generous about giving it to people.
00:51:22.000 The idea that, like, the kind of everyman shtick that people roll out, the everyman, you know, these media elites sitting in their ivory towers who care about things like, you know, politics and how fancy you are.
00:51:34.000 Like, it's just—it's not that what he's saying is wrong.
00:51:37.000 There's a disconnect between the media and the populace.
00:51:39.000 I agree there's a disconnect between the media and the populace.
00:51:41.000 I think there may be a disconnect between my view of politics and the normal person's view of politics, because I study this stuff and care about it on a deep level, but the whole kind of
00:51:49.000 Man of the people, elite vs. non-elite schtick, it doesn't wash for me.
00:52:05.000 Like, no one in the media is an overpaid elite on the level of Sean Hannity in the conservative media.
00:52:11.000 I mean, there's, like, legitimately maybe one other guy in the media, in the conservative media, who's paid more than Sean, maybe two.
00:52:17.000 It's like Bill O'Reilly and Rush, and that's it.
00:52:20.000 I mean, Sean is probably the third best-paid conservative commentator in the United States.
00:52:23.000 He makes more than professional baseball players make.
00:52:26.000 So, you know, the whole I'm a man of the people versus the elites shtick, it doesn't go down well for me.
00:52:33.000 Okay.
00:52:34.000 A couple of other things I hate, then we'll get to a little bit of Bible talk.
00:52:37.000 So, Fox News, on Tuesday morning—this just shows how ridiculous a lot of the coverage of this election has been—Fox News, their executive VP sent a note to all the Fox News hosts on Tuesday morning after the debate, and they said, do not cite online polls.
00:52:54.000 Don't do it.
00:52:55.000 They're not real.
00:52:56.000 Don't cite the Drudge poll, where it shows that Donald Trump won Saddam Hussein like 83 percent numbers.
00:53:01.000 Don't cite any of these spammed polls.
00:53:04.000 And Hannity and Eric Bolling and a bunch of other hosts on Fox News, apparently, they cited the polls anyway, which just shows you that there's an alternative reality that's being built up that has nothing to do with actual reality.
00:53:17.000 If you're citing online polls today as evidence that Trump won, you don't know anything about polling. 1.00
00:53:22.000 This is legitimately stupid. 1.00
00:53:44.000 We're good. 1.00
00:54:01.000 They're putting this on national television to suggest that this girl is actually a boy and any parent who doesn't believe that their little girl who thinks she's a little boy or little boy who thinks he's a little girl is intolerant and bigoted.
00:54:11.000 And so Modern Family's trotting this out.
00:54:13.000 Now, Modern Family's always been a leftist show.
00:54:15.000 The entire premise of the show is all forms of family are equal.
00:54:18.000 It's this whole Mrs. Doubtfire routine where 0.99
00:54:21.000 It doesn't matter, children.
00:54:22.000 If you have a dog and a chicken raising a child, that, too, is a family because it has love.
00:54:27.000 You know, that whole routine?
00:54:28.000 It was crappy when Mrs. Doubt fired at it back in 1994. 1.00
00:54:31.000 My cousin was in that film.
00:54:32.000 And it's crappy now.
00:54:33.000 But this is worse, okay? 0.82
00:54:34.000 Because what this is, is this is now mainstreaming what is an actual mental illness. 0.90
00:54:39.000 It's actually taking kids who have a real problem and pretending that if we all pretend along with them that they chop off their genitals or have some sewn on, they're the opposite sex, and that you're a bigot if you don't believe likewise. 0.76
00:54:49.000 It's really nefarious. 0.94
00:54:51.000 Now, what Modern Family is apparently going to do is they're going to make the villains in this case the gay couple. 0.99
00:54:54.000 They're going to say the gay couple didn't understand.
00:54:56.000 That's their way of not offending all the straight people in the United States. 0.90
00:55:00.000 We're not calling you bigots. 0.99
00:55:00.000 We're even saying the gay people are bigots, thanks to the transgenders. 0.99
00:55:04.000 Even the gays are bigots. 1.00
00:55:05.000 Okay, first of all, I have no clue why gays are lumped in with transgenders. 0.99
00:55:09.000 It makes no sense to me.
00:55:10.000 Why exactly?
00:55:11.000 Why is it LGBT? 1.00
00:55:13.000 I mean, like, I understand people of varying sexual orientations banding together in favor of alternative sexuality, but I don't understand why a lesbian should be more in favor of a girl who thinks she's a guy than a straight woman.
00:55:26.000 Like, what do these have to do with one another?
00:55:28.000 Caitlyn Jenner is not a—is Caitlyn Jenner a lesbian or a straight man right now?
00:55:32.000 Like, no one knows.
00:55:34.000 So, like, what this has to do with sexual orientation is beyond—in fact,
00:55:37.000 The transgender argument actually destroys both the feminist argument and sort of the gay argument because if we're all the same, if men and women are exactly the same in every way, then why is your sexual orientation so bigoted?
00:55:48.000 Right?
00:55:48.000 Why do you only like dudes if you're a dude?
00:55:50.000 Why don't you like girls? 0.99
00:55:51.000 I mean, after all, your dude could be a girl.
00:55:52.000 You just never know. 0.90
00:55:56.000 It's all foolishness, but this is what Hollywood does. 0.76
00:55:58.000 They found their new civil rights routine, and so they're going to pretend that this—this is an act of child abuse.
00:56:02.000 They're going to pretend that this little girl who thinks she's a little boy, something heroic is being done for kids who suffer with gender dysphoria by pretending along with them that their delusion is reality. 0.68
00:56:14.000 Okay.
00:56:15.000 And finally, it's time for—it's a Wednesday.
00:56:17.000 That means it's time for some Bible talk.
00:56:19.000 So this week's Torah portion—every week, the Jews read a separate portion of the Torah. 0.55
00:56:25.000 This week's portion is from Deuteronomy.
00:56:27.000 It's called Nitzavim. 0.89
00:56:28.000 And the Nitzavim and from Deuteronomy, the two sukkim, the two verses I want to cite here,
00:56:34.000 Our Deuteronomy 29, 13, 14.
00:56:36.000 And it's really interesting because it actually has some political ramifications, as always.
00:56:40.000 So, here's what it says.
00:56:50.000 So what does that mean?
00:56:51.000 What does it mean that God is making a covenant with people who aren't here? 0.94
00:56:54.000 How can you make a covenant with people who aren't there?
00:56:56.000 If you make a contract, the other person has to sign the contract.
00:56:59.000 How do you make a covenant with somebody who's not there?
00:57:01.000 So the commentators say they're not referring to people who are currently alive, it's referring to the people who have yet to be born.
00:57:07.000 The idea was that Sinai, the Midrash says, the Midrash is sort of the apocryphal story.
00:57:12.000 Some of them are supposed to be true.
00:57:14.000 Some of them are supposed to be metaphorical.
00:57:16.000 But the idea was that when God gave the Torah at Mount Sinai, when he gave the Old Testament at Mount Sinai, that all Jews were there.
00:57:22.000 All Jewish souls were present at that time.
00:57:25.000 So the idea was that people who are before God, even people who haven't been born, are bound by this covenant.
00:57:30.000 What's the morality of being bound by a covenant that you didn't sign into?
00:57:34.000 What's the morality of that?
00:57:35.000 Well, Thomas Jefferson, when it came to the Constitution, he said, we should have to re—we should have to sort of re-vote on the Constitution every 20 years.
00:57:43.000 Every 20 years, we should have to re-vote on the Constitution, because, after all, there's a whole new generation of people who have been born who didn't sign on to the Constitution.
00:57:50.000 So we should have to redo it every 20 years.
00:57:52.000 The Founding Fathers disagreed with Thomas Jefferson, and they said, no, this document is good in perpetuity.
00:57:57.000 There's room to change it through the amendment process, but this document is good for perpetuity.
00:58:02.000 The reason for that
00:58:03.000 God's truth is God's truth.
00:58:22.000 I think.
00:58:38.000 If you're born into a truth, you're stuck with that truth no matter how much you try to escape that truth.
00:58:43.000 If you're born under a constitutional system that expresses basic values about human nature that are true, you're born into that system and that doesn't change even if you wish to overthrow it.
00:58:51.000 That's very different than the left version of reality, in which reality is constantly rewritten on a day-to-day level because the world begins with you.
00:59:00.000 The world didn't begin with you.
00:59:01.000 There's an eternal truth that preceded you.
00:59:03.000 Your soul was born into eternal truth because God created your soul in that eternal truth and then put you on that earth in order to find out that truth and live it through.
00:59:11.000 So the idea is that God isn't binding you to a covenant you didn't sign on to.
00:59:14.000 He's binding himself to a covenant with you that he is going to treat you in accordance with that covenant.
00:59:20.000 Because God can do whatever he wants.
00:59:22.000 God could theoretically screw you on this deal, but he's not going to.
00:59:25.000 That's what God is saying.
00:59:26.000 I'm here, binding myself.
00:59:28.000 Not only with you am I making this covenant and this oath, but with people standing today and also with the people who aren't here yet.
00:59:34.000 I'm making a deal with your kids. 0.76
00:59:35.000 They're not here, but I'm assuring you, if they do the things that I've said, if they fulfill these eternal truths, I will bind myself to them even though they weren't here to make the promise.
00:59:45.000 Even though they weren't here to make the press, some people see this as obligations are being put on me that I never accepted.
00:59:50.000 Look, it's a free world.
00:59:51.000 You can do what you want.
00:59:53.000 But those realities, those obligations still exist for you whether or not you accept them.
00:59:57.000 What God is doing is binding himself to your kids and he's assuring you that forever, forever, he's going to bind himself to the people who pay attention to the covenant that he created and the reality that he created just for you and just for your children.
01:00:10.000 Okay, so tomorrow is Mailbag Day Plus.
01:00:13.000 Andrew Klavan's going to stop by.
01:00:14.000 I've been getting a lot of flack for posting Drew's book on my Facebook page, and I want to talk about that and why we've been doing that and what Drew's book actually says.
01:00:21.000 I've read Drew's book, so we can talk about it at length.
01:00:23.000 Looking forward to that.
01:00:24.000 Thanks so much for joining us today.
01:00:25.000 Thanks to Professor Sowell for joining us, and we'll see you tomorrow.
01:00:28.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
01:00:28.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.