The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 189 - Yes, Comey's FBI Was Rigged For Hillary

00:00:00.000 The media's wild new obsession with fat shaming and Trumpian sexism has been elevated by Hillary Clinton to her very top campaign issue.

00:00:07.000 Michelle Obama joined the Hillary campaign to explain, quote, if a candidate regularly and flippantly makes cruel and insulting comments about women, that's who that candidate really is. 1.00

00:00:16.000 Hillary herself tweeted, quote, a man who bullies and shames a woman for her weight should never become president. 0.97

00:00:21.000 Now, it's true, Trump routinely makes gross comments about women because he's a jackass, but the Democrats' high-horse attitude about sexism is a little galling. 0.99

00:00:30.000 Let's take a brief trip down memory lane. 0.99

00:00:32.000 JFK. 1.00

00:00:33.000 JFK was the ultimate Democratic hero and was a disgusting pig with women. 1.00

00:00:36.000 According to Mimi Alford, who was 19 years old when JFK went after her, quote, 0.98

00:00:43.000 I doubt it.

00:00:43.000 Once we were alone in his wife's bedroom, he'd maneuvered me so swiftly and unexpectedly, and with such authority and strength that, short of screaming, I don't think anything would have thwarted his intentions.

00:00:53.000 She then told—he, by the way, told Alfred afterward to perform oral sex on his special assistant, Dave Powers. 0.97

00:00:59.000 He also told her to pleasure his brother, Teddy. 0.98

00:01:01.000 That's just the tip of the JFK iceberg.

00:01:03.000 How about LBJ?

00:01:04.000 Hillary has praised LBJ fulsomely in the past. 0.99

00:01:07.000 LBJ was not merely a disgusting racist, he commonly used the n-word, he was also a massive woman hater. 0.90

00:01:12.000 According to a Michael Sheldon review of Robert Caro's massive Johnson biography, quote, 0.99

00:01:19.000 His female workers were fondled, ogled, and overworked. 1.00

00:01:22.000 Though his own figure was flabby, he was quick to berate any of his girls who put on weight.

00:01:26.000 He wanted to make sure the view was good when they walked away from his desk.

00:01:29.000 Quote, I don't want to look at an Aunt Minnie. 1.00

00:01:31.000 I want to look at a good, trim back end.

00:01:33.000 Unquote.

00:01:34.000 He boasted of his sexual prowess and had long affairs with at least two women, as well as casual flings with members of his staff.

00:01:40.000 How about Bill and, like, Hillary Clinton? 0.97

00:01:42.000 Bill Clinton allegedly raped one woman and his wife Hillary allegedly intimidate her. 0.93

00:01:46.000 Bill sexually harassed a bevy of other women and Hillary allegedly ran a war room to fight bimbo eruptions. 1.00

00:01:51.000 She referred to Jennifer Flowers as trailer trash. 1.00

00:01:54.000 She called Monica Lewinsky a narcissistic looney tune. 1.00

00:01:56.000 But hey folks, anybody who makes cruel and insulting comments about women should not be president. 1.00

00:02:02.000 By the way, the Obama White House has been rocked by chargers of sexism, too.

00:02:05.000 Christina Roemer, the former head of Obama's Council of Economic Advisers, she said she, quote, felt like a piece of meat while working in the Obama White House.

00:02:12.000 Anita Dunn, former White House Communications Director, she said the Obama White House, quote, actually fit all of the classical legal requirements for a genuinely hostile workplace to women. 0.99

00:02:21.000 Obama spends his presidency golfing with men only, as Katie Pavlich points out in her book.

00:02:26.000 As I've pointed out before, one of the things I hate about this election is the they-did-it-to excuse. 0.97

00:02:31.000 It's not a good excuse for sexism or being a pig. 0.82

00:02:33.000 But Hillary is actually applying a standard. 1.00

00:02:36.000 If you've ever done anything sexist to a woman or said anything nasty to a woman publicly, you can't be president.

00:02:41.000 Well, if that's the standard, that goes for every Democratic president for the last 50 years outside of Jimmy Carter.

00:02:48.000 And there goes Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:02:49.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:02:50.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:02:56.000 All righty, so much to get to here on The Ben Shapiro Show today.

00:02:58.000 We're going to be joined in just a moment by Andrew Klavan, and this will be a controversial segment.

00:03:03.000 We're going to actually battle it out.

00:03:04.000 I asked Drew earlier on if I could gradually drape him in Jewish ceremonial gear as this interview went on.

00:03:11.000 Unfortunately, he turned that down, so his soul is lost to us forever.

00:03:14.000 But we'll talk about why he turned from Judaism or from secular Judaism to Christianity.

00:03:21.000 We'll get to that in just a second.

00:03:22.000 Plus, we're going to talk

00:03:23.000 about Hillary and fat people and all the things Democrats want us to talk about, like Hillary and fat people.

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00:04:31.000 We're very, very excited to welcome to the show Andrew Klavan.

00:04:35.000 He's in August Company.

00:04:36.000 I mean, yesterday we had Thomas Sowell, and then we just went down about nine levels.

00:04:39.000 That's a plunge.

00:04:41.000 Yeah, we found the person in closest proximity, basically.

00:04:43.000 I mean, literally, Drew's studio is five feet away.

00:04:45.000 I just want to see how a real podcast was done.

00:04:48.000 Yeah, no, it's very exciting.

00:04:49.000 And so, welcome to a real podcast.

00:04:51.000 And so, Drew has a new book out called The Great Good Thing that I get tons of crap for posting on my Facebook page.

00:04:57.000 Do you get attacked for that?

00:04:59.000 Oh, sure, because The Great Good Thing, which, by the way, I mean, I love Drew.

00:05:04.000 He doesn't know how to title his books.

00:05:05.000 The subtitle is more accurate, and if he wanted it to be on the bestseller list, that's where he would have started, a secular Jew.

00:05:14.000 We're good to go.

00:05:30.000 And so for me, I've actually told rabbis that one of the things they should do is assign this book to parents as sort of a cautionary tale.

00:05:36.000 You know, from my angle, as an Orthodox Jew, what's fascinating about the book is that, you know, it's called The Secular Jew Comes to Faith in Christ, but I want to ask you what you mean by secular Jew, because the truth is,

00:05:46.000 That it's sort of a contradiction in terms.

00:05:47.000 For a religious Jew, just like for, you know, now you're a practicing Christian, the idea of a secular Christian doesn't make any sense. 0.82

00:05:54.000 So for me, a secular Jew is just somebody who was born into a Jewish family but had no clue about kind of what authentic Judaism is.

00:06:00.000 So, and why don't you give kind of the background as to the Jewish home that you grew up in.

00:06:04.000 Right.

00:06:04.000 Well, I mean, I use it very purposely.

00:06:06.000 I completely agree.

00:06:07.000 There's no such thing as a secular Jew. 0.93

00:06:10.000 It's a contradiction.

00:06:10.000 It's an oxymoron.

00:06:12.000 But I grew up in a home where my father was very dedicated to teaching us the tradition.

00:06:15.000 We went to Hebrew school.

00:06:16.000 I was bar mitzvahed.

00:06:17.000 The whole thing.

00:06:18.000 My parents didn't really believe in God.

00:06:20.000 My mother was the most convicted atheist I have ever met.

00:06:24.000 I mean, she died not believing.

00:06:26.000 She used to think it was all nonsense.

00:06:27.000 And whenever, you know, as kids, they would lie to us a little bit.

00:06:30.000 But my mother, whenever you got her going, she was, that's all nonsense. 0.88

00:06:33.000 Don't give me that. 0.80

00:06:34.000 And my father, as I say in the book, he didn't want to play games with a gigantic invisible Jew who could give you cancer just by thinking about it. 1.00

00:06:44.000 But he hedged his bets.

00:06:45.000 But he didn't really believe the way you and I both believe. 0.88

00:06:48.000 And so, for me, who has had this lifelong insistence that things make sense, that the words coming out of my mouth have some correlation to reality as it is, or even internal reality, I just found the entire thing absolute hypocrisy and nonsense.

00:07:05.000 So by the time I was Bar Mitzvahed, I was standing up in front of people, and I've only done this once in my life, and this is it, standing up in front of people saying words that I knew for a fact weren't true, saying I believed in things that I knew for a fact weren't true.

00:07:17.000 And I talk about how in the book, you know, you've got all this gelt in those days.

00:07:20.000 You've got a lot of jewelry and all this stuff.

00:07:21.000 And after six months, I crept out when everyone was asleep and I threw it all away, which should have gotten me thrown out of Judaism right there. 1.00

00:07:30.000 And I think that that's, this is why I say that rabbis, that Jews should read this book more to say, okay, if you're going to raise your kid as a Jew, if you're somebody like me who cares about raising your kid as a Jew, 0.68

00:07:39.000 You actually have to explain why they're doing the things they're doing.

00:07:42.000 You can't just say that Judaism is a culture, it's about matzo ball soup and the Holocaust, and then expect kids to actually take anything here seriously. 0.97

00:07:49.000 Because, I mean, we're both fans of musical theater.

00:07:52.000 When you watch Fiddler on the Roof, and you get to the end, and one of the daughters marries out, and she marries somebody who's not Jewish, that's a natural consequence of the very first song in tradition where they say, tradition. 0.80

00:08:03.000 We don't know why we do it, but it's the tradition.

00:08:05.000 If you don't know why you're doing it, it's not going to be a big wonder if your kids move away from it.

00:08:09.000 It would seem to me that God would be kind of the baseline, you know?

00:08:12.000 You've got to be praying to something.

00:08:13.000 You've got to be doing it for some reason.

00:08:14.000 Because otherwise, I get the tradition.

00:08:16.000 I get some kind of idea that this is what your race comes from.

00:08:20.000 But especially in America, where you really don't feel constrained by race at all, or you shouldn't.

00:08:25.000 In the old days, you didn't at all.

00:08:27.000 I don't know what appeal that has.

00:08:30.000 Basically, it was like talking to strangers all the time.

00:08:32.000 So I want to start with sort of asking you about your transition to becoming a religious person, and then we can get into the Jew versus Christian aspect of this.

00:08:39.000 Because there's the part, just like Judaism versus Christianity, the first part I'm with you, the second part I'm not. 0.98

00:08:44.000 So when it comes to your transition to religion, because you were an atheist for a while, what was it that triggered you?

00:08:51.000 And you talk about it in The Great Good Thing, but what was it that triggered you to move from atheistic, secular humanism, essentially, to a conservative religious person?

00:09:01.000 Well, when I was coming up in college, it was when that leftist wave of relativism was first coming in.

00:09:08.000 And the idea that there was nothing good or bad, but thinking makes it so, from Hamlet and all this stuff.

00:09:14.000 And multiculturalism, one culture is just as good as another.

00:09:18.000 You know, the evidence of mine eyes, you know, was enough for me to start thinking, that's not true.

00:09:23.000 And there were things that I read and thought along the way, like Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment.

00:09:27.000 I remember sitting and reading Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment, which is basically one long argument against Nietzsche and relativism, and just thinking like, oh wait, you know, that really works.

00:09:36.000 And I can't accept that.

00:09:37.000 And as that went on, I just started to realize that you cannot have a moral universe

00:09:42.000 I'm writing all these books.

00:09:43.000 I'm living in the postmodern world.

00:09:45.000 I'm living with postmodern people.

00:09:46.000 That was why I subtitled the book A Secular Jew.

00:09:48.000 I wanted people to understand

00:10:08.000 I was living in New York, in Hollywood, in London, those are the places I worked, those are the people I knew, where to say anything about God was to brand yourself as a rube.

00:10:17.000 So it was just very slowly that I started to realize that I was swimming in this water, but the land was over there and I had to go.

00:10:25.000 And really what happened one night, I was reading a book in which one of the characters I admired said a prayer.

00:10:31.000 I think so.

00:10:48.000 That's one of the things that's really nice about your personal experience is that you talk at length about the value for you of prayer, and you've had some very spiritual experiences along the way, which begs the second question.

00:11:01.000 So I think there are a lot of people who believe in God, and that brings them to the second question, which is, okay, well, why the Bible?

00:11:06.000 Why not just, okay, so there's a God who's moral in the universe, and why can't we just be like the supposedly deistic founders?

00:11:13.000 Obviously, they're much more Christian than people want to give them credit for, but the idea that, okay, God's just a giant clockmaker, and he's built into the system self-evident truths, the way that Jefferson puts it.

00:11:23.000 Why do you need the Bible?

00:11:24.000 Why is the Bible important?

00:11:25.000 Well, I came to the Bible in a completely secular way.

00:11:28.000 I wanted to be a writer.

00:11:29.000 I started reading all these books that I loved, and, you know, I loved all the detective stories, and I realized that the detective stories and Ernest Hemingway, those

00:11:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:37.000 I mean, I know what you're talking about.

00:11:40.000 We just put it in the fiction section, right?

00:11:42.000 Let's put it in the non-fiction.

00:11:44.000 I understand.

00:11:46.000 So I started to read it as a purely literary exercise.

00:11:49.000 And I had to go out and buy one because we didn't have one in the house.

00:11:54.000 I got one with, you know, Jesus' words in red.

00:12:05.000 I don't

00:12:26.000 We were running around with girls naked behind the curtains all the time. 1.00

00:12:29.000 So the fact that he got me reading the Gospel according to St.

00:12:31.000 Luke drove him crazy.

00:12:34.000 But it was completely secular.

00:12:35.000 But what happened was, as I started to teach myself literature, as I started to teach myself the culture, I realized that it was at the center of the entire logic

00:12:45.000 of everything we are, like nobody, and this includes Jewish people, I think, too, nobody in the West speaks anything that isn't in some way tinged and connected to Christianity.

00:12:57.000 Now, if you're Jewish, I think this also goes back through Christianity to something older, I agree. 0.97

00:13:01.000 Right, which is what Maimonides says.

00:13:02.000 Right, that's right.

00:13:03.000 Maimonides' take on Christianity is that basically Christianity, and he even says this about Islam, although to a lesser extent, that these were kind of almost like the publicity wing.

00:13:12.000 You know, that's right.

00:13:31.000 It made sense to me.

00:13:32.000 It made sense to me that you have this relationship, you fall out of it, a people is chosen as a doorway to let God back into the world.

00:13:39.000 It all made sense.

00:13:39.000 I got the story.

00:13:40.000 And so when I started to think about God, I think that was the God I was thinking of, even before I knew it was.

00:13:46.000 Okay, so now let's get to the places where we disagree, because we've gotten to all the places where we agree, and so we both get screamed at for not disagreeing enough.

00:13:54.000 So, you know, obviously my view as a Jew is that, my personal view of Jesus, is that Jesus was a normal Orthodox Jew who was trying to, and this is sort of what Chaim Maccoby writes in his books about, I don't know if you've ever read any of his books, sort of about the historicity of Jesus, is what he says is that basically he was an Orthodox Jew who tried to lead a revolt against the Romans,

00:14:15.000 Number one, how deeply were you aware of Judaism before you converted to Christianity?

00:14:39.000 And number two, why do you find the historicity of Christianity to be a fulfillment of Judaism as opposed to just, we're right and Christianity is an offshoot?

00:14:47.000 Okay.

00:14:48.000 Well, the first thing is that, you know, I really take a little bit of umbrage.

00:14:53.000 The attack I get most often from Jewish people is, you know, you can't converse unless you become a Jew first. 0.98

00:14:59.000 You have to know your own religion. 0.95

00:15:01.000 And my problem with that, and I think you would probably agree, it wasn't my religion.

00:15:05.000 It's like, I don't know about Zoroastrianism that much either, you know?

00:15:09.000 And this is one of the problems with just the, I mean, Jewish religion inherently connects ethnic Judaism to religious Judaism because you have to be ethnically Jewish. 0.76

00:15:17.000 You can convert into Judaism, but if you are ethnically Jewish, and you know this obviously, is that, according to me, you're still Jewish, right?

00:15:22.000 Even after you convert to Christianity, you're still a Jew. 1.00

00:15:25.000 Now, I know that you're a practicing Christian, and that's your prerogative, obviously.

00:15:28.000 But, you know, according to my religious belief, you're still a Jew. 0.86

00:15:31.000 So it creates this...

00:15:32.000 I'm not still a religious Jew.

00:15:34.000 No, not at all.

00:15:36.000 But you're a Jew who's not fulfilling your Jewish obligations, right? 1.00

00:15:38.000 Just like any other Jew who doesn't fulfill their Jewish obligations. 0.99

00:15:41.000 So that's sort of how it works.

00:15:42.000 So that's where that's coming from, I think, when you're getting that critique.

00:15:45.000 Obviously, look, as an independent human being, you can do whatever you want.

00:15:48.000 You don't have to study Judaism and then reject that in favor of Christianity.

00:15:51.000 And then I think that's an important point, because that's not what the book is about.

00:15:54.000 The book isn't about, I deeply investigated Judaism, decided it was false, and decided Christianity was true. 1.00

00:15:58.000 No, not at all.

00:15:59.000 And I hate playing competitive religions anyway. 0.98

00:16:01.000 It's ridiculous. 0.90

00:16:02.000 But I will say this, just from my internal world, just speaking as a spiritual guy who really cares about this stuff, I never felt like a Jew until I became a Christian. 0.92

00:16:13.000 And that is absolutely true.

00:16:15.000 I mean, when I was baptized, first of all, the idea of baptism came to me as a shock.

00:16:19.000 I mean, I was praying for about five years and had developed a very deep relationship with God, but no theology.

00:16:25.000 I didn't want a theology.

00:16:26.000 I didn't want, you know, who cares?

00:16:28.000 And one day I really felt that my life had been transformed by prayer, and I said to God, what can I do for you?

00:16:35.000 And I thought, you know, like, you're God, I'm like some guy, you know?

00:16:40.000 And it came back to me immediately and powerfully, you should be baptized.

00:16:44.000 And I remember speaking out, spitting the words out loud, you gotta be kidding me.

00:16:49.000 Like, what on earth?

00:16:51.000 And it was going back then to the New Testament and reading it in belief that that's what transformed me.

00:16:57.000 And the idea, I've read a lot of historical stuff about Jesus, and I find it kind of empty.

00:17:02.000 And one of the things is, is that it is the natural inclination of historians to debunk.

00:17:07.000 It is natural to them, and the greatest story, of course, is the story of Troy, you know?

00:17:11.000 It's just a poem, it's just a myth, and all this stuff, and there's one guy who keeps saying, no, you know, I think this is true.

00:17:16.000 When I read stories like going into the empty tomb and finding this cloth was rolled up this way and this cloth... You know, I'm a guy who's read stories and studied stories all my life.

00:17:25.000 That sounds like an eyewitness account to me.

00:17:27.000 But I wouldn't even argue with it because until you believe, until you believe there's no evidence, and once you believe, the evidence is all around.

00:17:34.000 I mean, I think that that's the way it works.

00:17:36.000 It's not something you can argue with people about or convince people about.

00:17:41.000 I agree with this.

00:17:42.000 At a certain point, whatever religion you believe, there is an inherent leap of faith that takes place.

00:17:46.000 I mean, if you're a Jew, the belief that God came down on a mountaintop and spoke to 600,000 people, that's a leap of faith.

00:17:52.000 Nobody's ever seen that happen in the modern world, obviously.

00:17:54.000 And the same thing is true in Christianity.

00:17:59.000 Look, as a Jew, it's a point of sadness whenever somebody who's ethnically Jewish, you know, does not, never had the opportunity to really, you know, look at their own religion before looking at Christianity, but I'm not going to fault somebody for looking at Christianity and saying, this is the truth that I found here.

00:18:14.000 Because, you know, you're thinking adult human being.

00:18:17.000 And so, this is why, you know, I think it's important to have the conversation, not as a matter of comparative religion, because, again, we can agree to disagree, and I can be sad about your decisions, and you can be sad about mine, right?

00:18:28.000 As a Jew, I read it and I agreed with 95% of it.

00:18:51.000 You just dropped Jesus' name, and I agree with 100% of it, basically.

00:18:55.000 And I think that it's more of a fascinating rebuke of secular morality than anything, maybe anything I've ever read.

00:19:05.000 I mean, it is a ringing rebuke of the idea that you can have a workable society founded on the basis of secularism.

00:19:13.000 Even to a certain extent on an individual level.

00:19:16.000 You can live that way, obviously.

00:19:16.000 We both believe that there are atheists and agnostics who are great people who do wonderful things for the world and live a moral lifestyle.

00:19:23.000 But there is, at root, everybody is living in this world of morality, whether you like it or not.

00:19:27.000 You can pretend you're not, but you're living in this world of morality.

00:19:29.000 And that's the whole thing.

00:19:32.000 It was ten years after my baptism that I wrote the book.

00:19:36.000 Who really thinks my life story is worth telling? 1.00

00:19:40.000 But it occurred to me that everybody is living in this world where the assumption is you're an idiot if you believe. 1.00

00:19:46.000 The assumption is there's something offbeat about you. 1.00

00:19:49.000 I just put it out there because I was there.

00:19:52.000 I had no reason to convert.

00:19:53.000 I had no reason to change.

00:19:54.000 I was living a good life.

00:19:55.000 I was living a good life.

00:19:57.000 When I said that prayer... It wasn't like you were in the depths of despair and suddenly, boom, you found religion.

00:20:01.000 Which is the myth about religious people. 0.76

00:20:03.000 We're bitter clingers, right?

00:20:05.000 And then we find God.

00:20:05.000 I know.

00:20:06.000 The book tells how I went into a period of despair but wouldn't accept God then because I didn't want it to seem like a crutch.

00:20:11.000 It was only when I came out of that despair, it was in joy, that I went forward.

00:20:15.000 And that's just the point I want to make.

00:20:17.000 People are stuck in this world where the default mode is atheism.

00:20:22.000 And if you start thinking for yourself, you can be freed from that.

00:20:33.000 Buy Drew and also apparently you get your ticket stamped immediately to heaven and the pearly gates as soon as you buy it.

00:20:42.000 So that's good news.

00:20:43.000 It is a really well written book just like everything else that Drew writes.

00:20:46.000 It's really good stuff.

00:20:47.000 Drew's a tremendous writer.

00:20:48.000 Next time we'll have Drew on and we'll actually make jokes and talk about politics as opposed to going into deep theology about God and secularism.

00:20:54.000 But that's next time he writes a funny book.

00:20:56.000 Okay, so we're going to talk a little bit about politics in just a moment.

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00:21:56.000 Okay, so I want to talk politics briefly before we have to let you go here on the Facebook Live, as well as YouTube.

00:22:07.000 Let's talk briefly about, we'll get to Hillary and fat people and all the rest of the stupidity that they want us to talk about, but first, let's talk about things that actually matter. 0.95

00:22:16.000 President Obama was on CNN last night, and a gold star mom gets up and asks him a question, and Barack Obama, because he has none of the knowledge about Western civilization and Judeo-Christian religion that anyone with open eyes has, here's Barack Obama's answer with regard to Islamic terrorism. 0.98

00:22:32.000 Do you still believe that the acts of terrorism are done

00:22:36.000 With a self-proclaimed Islamic religious motives? 0.87

00:22:40.000 And if you do, why do you still refuse to use the term racially, I'm sorry, Islamic terrorist? 0.98

00:22:48.000 Well, first of all, I want to thank your son, obviously, for his service.

00:22:53.000 Where we see terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda or ISIL, they have

00:23:06.000 perverted and distorted and tried to claim the mantle of Islam for an excuse for basically barbarism and death. 0.97

00:23:21.000 Okay, so he says that they're trying to claim it for barbarism and death, and therefore he won't use those terms.

00:23:25.000 He just won't do it.

00:23:27.000 And then he continued on by saying that, he said, quote, if you had an organization that was going around killing and blowing people up, and said, we're on the vanguard of Christianity, as a Christian, I'm not gonna let them claim my religion and say you're killing for Christ. 0.98

00:23:39.000 I would say that's ridiculous. 0.97

00:23:41.000 That's not what my religion stands for. 1.00

00:23:43.000 Call these folks what they are, killers and terrorists. 0.99

00:23:45.000 Okay, there are several problems with this. 0.99

00:23:47.000 First of all, 0.51

00:23:48.000 Every time he mentions Islamic terrorism, he pretends that there's this giant wave of Jesus freaks who are running around blowing people up and shooting them in malls, and it isn't happening, okay? 0.94

00:23:57.000 He has to make up a Christian terrorist group in order to not talk about Islamic terrorist groups, right? 0.97

00:24:02.000 There are Islamic terrorist groups. 0.91

00:24:03.000 There are state-funded, state-backed Islamic terrorist groups.

00:24:07.000 ISIS is its own state.

00:24:08.000 Iran is the number one funder of terrorism in the entire world. 0.94

00:24:12.000 And they are a state. 0.92

00:24:13.000 They're an Islamic state.

00:24:14.000 They're the Islamic Republic of Iran.

00:24:16.000 Saudi Arabia, we just passed a bill yesterday saying that people can sue members of the government of Saudi Arabia over terrorism because of the connections between members of the Saudi government and people like the terrorists in al-Qaeda.

00:24:27.000 And he's pretending that Christianity is the same thing. 0.70

00:24:29.000 Well, if there are Christian terrorists, then I'd feel bad about that. 1.00

00:24:32.000 So I wouldn't power a Muslim, I'd feel bad. 1.00

00:24:33.000 Yeah, except that there is no such connection between Christians and so-called Christian terrorists.

00:24:38.000 There just isn't.

00:24:38.000 The numbers don't justify that.

00:24:40.000 There were a ton of suicide bombings last year.

00:24:43.000 All of them were Islamic, I think, except for one. 0.99

00:24:45.000 We're good to go. 1.00

00:25:01.000 That is to say that when Barack Obama tries to compare Christian terrorism and Islamic terrorism, it's idiotic. 1.00

00:25:05.000 It's just idiotic. 1.00

00:25:07.000 The question isn't. 1.00

00:25:08.000 I don't like to get into the whole, does the Koran push terrorism versus does the Bible push terrorism.

00:25:13.000 I don't care about that.

00:25:13.000 I care about the adherence.

00:25:15.000 The adherence.

00:25:16.000 Okay, the fact is, I did this video that's gotten a lot of flack from the left, where I broke down the poll numbers on how many people in various Muslim countries believe in honor killings and believe in the rule of Sharia law.

00:25:26.000 Not just they want to go to Islamic court to deal with their finances, but like actual sharia law and criminal law, hands chopped off, penalties for blasphemy, that kind of stuff.

00:25:34.000 And you're talking hundreds of millions of people who believe these kinds of things.

00:25:37.000 And if those are connected to terrorism, which a lot of those ideas seem to be, then maybe you start connecting those ideas to terrorism in order to fight them. 0.88

00:25:45.000 Equating the global Christian reaction to terrorism to global Islamic reaction is ridiculous. 0.79

00:25:49.000 He says, as a Christian, I wouldn't be happy with that. 0.97

00:25:51.000 Right.

00:25:52.000 If there were an act of Christian terrorism, every Christian in America would be out front condemning it. 0.99

00:25:57.000 All of them.

00:25:58.000 Now, there are some Muslims who condemn acts of terrorism. 0.71

00:26:00.000 There are also lots more Muslims who are openly rallying in the streets to lock up people who blaspheme the prophet if they draw a cartoon.

00:26:09.000 Right, the fact is that there are riots every time a woman exposes, you know, is in a bikini in an Islamic country. 0.99

00:26:15.000 And that happened, I think, in Nigeria about five years ago.

00:26:17.000 So this sort of equation just doesn't exist.

00:26:20.000 Finally, you know, Obama's—this is why Trump is rising on this particular issue.

00:26:25.000 Obama's failure to label terrorism what it is, Islamic terrorism, it trickles down to policy.

00:26:30.000 So it trickles down in a few ways.

00:26:31.000 One, it means that when we see a red flag like, oh, the guy visited Saudi Arabia, and he came back with his wife from Hajj, and then he's on sites that are ISIS-friendly, we go, oh, well, I don't see anything really suspicious there.

00:26:42.000 Like, the ISIS-friendly thing is weird, but I'm not going to look at the trip on Hajj to Saudi Arabia and picking up his wife there from Pakistan.

00:26:48.000 I'm not going to see that as a problem.

00:26:50.000 And that's how you end up with the killers in San Bernardino.

00:26:53.000 We treat it as though it's not a red flag.

00:26:55.000 Of course it's a red flag. 0.94

00:26:56.000 Extreme Islam is a red flag. 1.00

00:26:58.000 Extremist Islam, radical Islam is a red flag. 1.00

00:27:01.000 When connected with other red flags, it's obviously a problem.

00:27:04.000 And people in government have been punished for—I mean, there are whistleblowers who have come out and said the Department of Homeland Security has wiped databases if those databases contain information about Islamic terrorist groups that are overbroad.

00:27:17.000 More than that, Americans are intimidated into failing to report suspicious activities by Muslims. 0.91

00:27:22.000 Right.

00:27:23.000 And this is one of the ideas of the lawfare movement that's been happening over Islamophobia.

00:27:27.000 And I'm being sued.

00:27:28.000 I'm not going to talk about this for legal reasons too much.

00:27:30.000 I'm supposedly being sued.

00:27:31.000 I am being sued by a clock boy and his father over the fact that I said back in last year that I thought that the whole thing was a setup, that I thought that the entire routine was they went in there with a device that looked like a bomb.

00:27:43.000 And I'll play the tape at some point.

00:27:45.000 What I said is I thought that it was opinion, right?

00:27:48.000 Opinion, which is protected by the First Amendment.

00:27:50.000 But the idea was that if you express an opinion that this was not a case of Islamophobia, this was actually a case that was meant to generate headlines about Islamophobia, then you get sued.

00:27:58.000 And the idea is, okay, if we can shut everybody down and shut them up, then people will simply stop talking about this kind of thing.

00:28:03.000 Okay, well, it's all fun and games until somebody actually walks into a school with a device that looks like a bomb and it ain't a clock.

00:28:10.000 So, finally, if you actually want to fight radical Islam, you have to reform the ideology. 0.91

00:28:15.000 If you refuse to acknowledge a necessity to reform the ideology, you're going to fail.

00:28:21.000 General Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, who's the dictator of Egypt, he's talked about reforming Islam.

00:28:26.000 President Obama is completely ignoring him, pretending it's not relevant.

00:28:28.000 So that's why when Trump says it's important to mention radical Islamic terror, that's true. 1.00

00:28:33.000 I don't know if Trump knows why it's true.

00:28:35.000 I don't know.

00:28:53.000 We're good to go.

00:29:12.000 If you're like me, then you don't need the pass to the pearly gates, because you don't believe that's how it's going to go anyway.

00:29:16.000 But if you actually believe all this stuff, then pick up Drew's book.

00:29:21.000 It's like Willy Wonka's golden ticket.

00:29:22.000 I think that inside one of the copies is an actual golden ticket to heaven.

00:29:26.000 It could be you.

00:29:28.000 You could be the one.

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00:29:39.000 Obama says that.

00:29:40.000 He also says yesterday on CNN that Colin Kaepernick is wrong.

00:29:44.000 Okay, now this is weird because he actually thinks Colin Kaepernick's kind of right.

00:29:47.000 He thinks America is a deeply bigoted country, and here is his explanation for why Colin Kaepernick is wrong.

00:29:52.000 Being asked by a soldier, right?

00:29:54.000 He has no other option.

00:29:55.000 A soldier asks him, what do you think about Kaepernick?

00:29:57.000 What do you think he's going to say?

00:29:58.000 Yeah, the flag that I'm sending you to fight and maybe die under?

00:30:01.000 I'd kneel for that, too.

00:30:03.000 He can't say that, so here's his answer.

00:30:05.000 As Commander-in-Chief, how do you feel about those NFL players choosing this typically respected time to voice their opinions?

00:30:13.000 Well, as I've said before, I believe that us honoring our flag and our anthem is part of what binds us together as a nation.

00:30:29.000 And I think that for me, for my family,

00:30:36.000 For those who work in the White House, we recognize what it means to us, but also what it means to the men and women who are fighting on our behalf.

00:30:48.000 But I'm also always trying to remind folks that part of what makes this country special is that we respect people's rights to have a different opinion.

00:31:07.000 And to make different decisions about how they want to express their concerns.

00:31:13.000 But here, you can see how he's struggling for words. 1.00

00:31:15.000 The reason he's struggling for words is because, look, we all agree Colin Kaepernick has a right to be a moron. 0.99

00:31:19.000 It's America. 0.99

00:31:20.000 But that wasn't the question.

00:31:22.000 The question was, how do you feel about him doing it?

00:31:24.000 And Obama's struggling here because he doesn't want to tick off his leftist base that actually agrees with Colin Kaepernick.

00:31:29.000 Polls show a huge number of leftists agree with Colin Kaepernick, and he is deathly afraid.

00:31:33.000 He's very, very scared that he's going to end up being, you know, penalized by his own base for not saying the right thing.

00:31:40.000 So that's the left.

00:31:40.000 That's the left.

00:31:41.000 And that's actual news.

00:31:42.000 That's stuff that's going on that's actual news.

00:31:44.000 In other actual news, in other actual news,

00:31:47.000 James Comey, the director of the FBI, goes before Congress yesterday, and it is a disaster for him.

00:31:52.000 It's clear that this whole thing was rigged.

00:31:54.000 It's very obvious that the investigation was rigged on Hillary's behalf, and James Comey has no answers for it.

00:31:59.000 And you can see it.

00:32:00.000 I mean, it's pretty amazing.

00:32:01.000 Here's James Comey saying yesterday, you can't call us weasels.

00:32:05.000 Please, don't call us weasels.

00:32:07.000 But don't call us weasels.

00:32:08.000 We are not weasels.

00:32:09.000 We are honest people.

00:32:11.000 And we did this in that way.

00:32:12.000 Whether you disagree or agree with the result, this was done the way you would want it to be done.

00:32:16.000 Nope.

00:32:16.000 Not even close.

00:32:17.000 They granted immunity to a bunch of people who were not in danger of prosecution.

00:32:21.000 They then allowed those people to basically claim the fifth anyway.

00:32:24.000 They allowed Cheryl Mills to walk out of an interview when she was ticked off. 1.00

00:32:28.000 They allowed Cheryl Mills, who was granted immunity, to be Hillary's lawyer. 0.97

00:32:32.000 In this case, Hillary was not 1.00

00:32:33.000 We're good.

00:32:50.000 And James Comey says, no, no, no, that doesn't show that it's a cover-up.

00:32:54.000 He granted, by the way, immunity to that IT guy.

00:32:57.000 He says it wasn't a cover-up and also it's not a violation of his immunity deal, even though he was asking on Reddit after he'd been granted immunity and taking further action to delete an archive of Hillary's emails.

00:33:09.000 Paul Combetta with Platte River Networks posted to Reddit

00:33:15.000 Asking how to strip out a VIP's, very VIP, e-mail address from a bunch of archived e-mail, end quote.

00:33:24.000 Isn't this information evidence of obstruction of justice and a violation of Mr. Combetta's immunity deal?

00:33:33.000 Not necessarily, no.

00:33:34.000 Why not?

00:33:35.000 It depends on what his intention was, why he wanted to do it.

00:33:38.000 And I think our team concluded that what he was trying to do was, when they produced e-mails, not have the actual address, but have some

00:33:45.000 Name or placeholder instead of the actual .com address in the from line.

00:33:51.000 Okay.

00:33:52.000 What?

00:33:53.000 What?

00:33:53.000 I mean, you have to come to such a tortured conclusion.

00:33:56.000 He was trying to alter the data so that it didn't have an HTML.

00:34:00.000 He just wanted to change the title.

00:34:01.000 That's why he was on Reddit doing it.

00:34:03.000 Yeah, except for the fact that you have emails, including Hillary's IT people, talking about Hillary's cover-up operation.

00:34:09.000 You know, Louie Gohmert, who's a, I'm friends with Louie, Louie's a great guy, Republican congressman from Texas.

00:34:14.000 Here's Louie Gohmert grilling Comey, saying, you gave immunity to people, you didn't have to, and Louie's a judge, I mean, actually, Louie actually knows about this stuff.

00:34:21.000 If an FBI agent came in and recommended that we give immunity to a witness to get her laptop, that we could get with a subpoena or warrant, then I would ask the FBI not to ever allow this agent on a case.

00:34:37.000 Can you explain succinctly why you chose to give immunity, without a proffer of what was on the laptop, give immunity to Cheryl Mills while she was an important witness and you could have gotten her laptop with a warrant or subpoena?

00:34:55.000 Sure, I'll give you my best shot.

00:34:57.000 The immunity we're calling about here, and the details really matter, that we're talking about is act of production immunity, which says we want you to give us a thing,

00:35:05.000 We won't use anything we find on that thing directly against you.

00:35:09.000 Right?

00:35:09.000 It's a fairly... And I understand that and I understood that from reading the immunity deal and that's what's so shocking because she was working directly with Hillary Clinton and therefore it's expected since the evidence indicates she was pretty well copied on so many of the emails that Hillary Clinton was using that pretty much anything in there would have

00:35:36.000 It's been usable against her.

00:35:38.000 So why would you grant immunity to her when all of it's usable? 0.53

00:35:40.000 Plus you can just use a subpoena.

00:35:42.000 Okay, there's no Fifth Amendment defense to a subpoena.

00:35:45.000 If she's subpoenaed, she has to turn over all the documents you gave her immunity based on anything that she turned over, which makes no sense.

00:35:51.000 You don't have to do that.

00:35:52.000 So why did you do that?

00:35:53.000 The only reason you did that is because you wanted to grant her immunity.

00:35:56.000 Trey Gowdy says that Cheryl Mills, the person he's talking about, Hillary's assistant, Cheryl Mills just walked out of the FBI interview when she didn't like the questions because she had immunity.

00:36:04.000 And that's the same Cheryl Mills that stormed out of the FBI interview, correct? 1.00

00:36:08.000 And was never asked those questions that got her angry enough to leave?

00:36:12.000 Right.

00:36:12.000 She stormed out because her lawyer, who used to work for the Department of Justice, by the way, and the DOJ lawyers had an agreement about what she would and would not be asked.

00:36:22.000 And the FBI apparently was not part of that deal.

00:36:25.000 So they, God forbid, asked a question that went into an area she didn't want it to go.

00:36:29.000 So that's why she left.

00:36:31.000 This whole thing would not happen to Cheryl Smith or Cheryl Jones. 0.85

00:36:36.000 But it happened to Cheryl Mills, and that is my focus.

00:36:39.000 Why are you treating this case differently than you would anyone else's?

00:36:43.000 And he's a career prosecutor.

00:36:45.000 So all of this is right.

00:36:46.000 I mean, it is a joke.

00:36:48.000 They are weasels.

00:36:49.000 They treated this differently because it was Hillary and her people. 1.00

00:36:51.000 They granted them immunity.

00:36:52.000 They granted them privileges.

00:36:53.000 They allowed them to walk out of interviews.

00:36:55.000 They didn't subpoena people.

00:36:56.000 They didn't subpoena documents.

00:36:58.000 It's an amazing botch.

00:36:59.000 And as we learn more, we learn that the botch is just that much more amazing.

00:37:03.000 Also, it was the DOJ that allowed her to walk out.

00:37:05.000 Who's DOJ again?

00:37:06.000 Oh yeah, Loretta Lynch's DOJ.

00:37:08.000 And as you recall, Loretta Lynch hanging out with Bill Clinton on the tarmac. 0.68

00:37:11.000 So, this whole thing, this is why it's horrifying when the DOJ becomes politicized, the FBI becomes politicized.

00:37:18.000 Comey, who spent his entire career building this sort of sterling character reference for himself, blows it all up over this case.

00:37:23.000 I said at the time it was a corrupt deal, and it was.

00:37:27.000 Well, that—you know, it would be awesome.

00:37:29.000 It would be really nice if we had a candidate, like a Republican candidate, who would talk about these things, who knew them, understood the email scandal, talked about the immunity deals granted by the FBI, why Barack Obama's administration is covering up for Hillary Clinton.

00:37:42.000 Unfortunately, our nominee is Donald Trump.

00:37:43.000 So, that's—that doesn't mean everything he says is bad, so let's do some Good Trump, Bad Trump, The Time Has Come, Good Trump, Bad Trump, Thursday edition, thanks to Brandon Snipes for the theme.

00:37:59.000 So catchy.

00:38:00.000 All right, so we begin with good Trump.

00:38:02.000 So, Donald Trump, after his debate, he's, we'll get to bad Trump in a second.

00:38:07.000 After his debate, he's been on the campaign trail, and here is Donald Trump saying what is true about Hillary Clinton and the police, and this is accurate. 0.57

00:38:16.000 But I thought her answer, having to do with the police, was very, very disrespectful to the police.

00:38:22.000 She was petrified to talk about them in a positive way, and I thought, frankly, that was a disgrace.

00:38:27.000 Yeah, I thought you were gonna bring that out.

00:38:28.000 I think it was a very disrespectful... Well, I thought it was a very disrespectful answer to the police.

00:38:34.000 There's no question about it.

00:38:36.000 Okay, so, and he's right.

00:38:37.000 It's disrespectful to the police.

00:38:39.000 Okay.

00:38:40.000 Other good Trump.

00:38:40.000 He attacks Hillary Clinton on the money trail.

00:38:44.000 Everything you need to know

00:38:47.000 about Hillary Clinton can be understood with this simple phrase.

00:38:53.000 Follow the money.

00:38:54.000 And believe me, that's what's happened.

00:38:58.000 In her campaign for president, Hillary Clinton has received $100 million in contributions from Wall Street and the hedge funds. 0.73

00:39:08.000 She received $4.1 million in speaking fees from financial firms.

00:39:13.000 I'd like to see what she said.

00:39:15.000 Where are the papers, Bernie?

00:39:17.000 Bernie was asking for the papers, but Bernie gave up.

00:39:21.000 The same groups paying Bill and Hillary for their speeches were lobbying the federal government.

00:39:27.000 Twenty-two groups paying Bill Clinton for speeches lobbied the State Department while Hillary was Secretary of State.

00:39:33.000 Okay, all this is good.

00:39:34.000 All this is good, and this is good Trump, and he should be doing this about the email scandal.

00:39:37.000 He should be hammering her.

00:39:38.000 Nothing but hammering her. 0.98

00:39:39.000 Unfortunately, this now brings us to bad Trump.

00:39:42.000 So, bad Trump, yeah, we do have the face, okay.

00:39:46.000 Bad Trump.

00:39:47.000 Okay, so Donald Trump can't help himself.

00:39:50.000 He continues, his campaign continues to futz around over this Alicia Machado story that we talked about yesterday, this Miss Universe from 1997 who gained like 50 pounds after she was named Miss Universe and Trump allegedly called her Miss Piggy and Miss Housekeeping.

00:40:03.000 First of all, quick note, I don't understand why the Miss Piggy thing is significantly worse than the Miss Housekeeping thing.

00:40:08.000 It seems to me the reverse.

00:40:09.000 I'm calling a Latina woman Miss Housekeeping seems like much worse to me than a woman has one obligation in life, not to get fat, she gains 50 pounds, and then he calls her Miss Piggy. 0.99

00:40:19.000 Like, he's still a jackass, but Trump says this kind of stuff to everybody. 0.96

00:40:22.000 The Miss Housekeeping thing is like an actual racial slur, so that I find bizarre. 0.99

00:40:29.000 Nonetheless, Trump can't back off of it.

00:40:31.000 He's got all of his surrogates out there today talking about how Alicia Machado really deserved it.

00:40:35.000 And, of course, this plays right into the Democrat playbook.

00:40:37.000 All the Democrats had to do was chum the waters a little bit, and they knew that Shark Trump would come up and try and eat the boat. 0.97

00:40:44.000 And he's not big enough to swallow the boat.

00:40:46.000 I mean, they chummed the waters with all this Alicia Machado stuff, and they continue to do so.

00:40:50.000 So here's Michelle Obama saying, we can't have somebody like Trump.

00:40:53.000 We need an adult in the White House.

00:40:55.000 And it is the President and the President alone who always has to make the final call.

00:41:01.000 We also need someone who is steady and measured.

00:41:05.000 Because when making life or death, war or peace decisions, a President just can't pop off or lash out irrationally.

00:41:13.000 No!

00:41:16.000 We need an adult in the White House.

00:41:18.000 I guarantee you.

00:41:21.000 Okay, and then she continues along these lines by saying, he's just too mean to be president.

00:41:26.000 He's too mean to women.

00:41:28.000 If a candidate is erratic and threatening, if a candidate traffics in prejudice, fears, and lies on the campaign trail, if a candidate thinks that not paying taxes makes you smart,

00:41:43.000 Or that it's good business when people lose their homes.

00:41:47.000 If a candidate regularly and flippantly makes cruel and insulting comments about women, about how we look, how we act, well sadly, that's who that candidate really is.

00:42:04.000 Okay, so she's obviously ripping into Donald Trump over the women comments. 1.00

00:42:08.000 As we mentioned at the top of the show, Hillary's made comments about women for years. 1.00

00:42:11.000 But, again, the Trump people, they've been turned into Trump's troll army. 0.86

00:42:16.000 A lot of the GOP's been turned into the Trump troll army.

00:42:18.000 And so you've got, for example, the Florida GOP tweeting out actual stories suggesting that Hillary won the debate because she was wired for sound.

00:42:26.000 She had a wire running up her back and somebody was feeding her the answers.

00:42:29.000 You have the entire apparently right-wing radio and blogosphere talking about why online polls, the unscientific online polls, why those are just as good as regular scientific polls, because we have to pretend that Trump is winning.

00:42:41.000 And so now we're going to do the other thing that we like to do, which is Trump wants to defend himself on Alicia Machado, so we're going to pretend that it's smart.

00:42:49.000 Forget true.

00:42:49.000 We're going to pretend that it's smart to continue talking about the Alicia Machado story.

00:42:53.000 So we've got Newt Gingrich, a bowling ball of a man, going after Alicia Machado for her weight.

00:42:58.000 You're not supposed to gain 60 pounds during the year if you're Miss Universe.

00:43:00.000 God!

00:43:00.000 Not fair!

00:43:01.000 Even my accent that was sexist proves I'm not being sensitive.

00:43:07.000 Okay, and he says, you're not supposed to gain 60 pounds after you become Miss Universe.

00:43:11.000 Okay, factually true. 1.00

00:43:12.000 Politically idiotic. 1.00

00:43:14.000 Politically idiotic. 1.00

00:43:15.000 Why would you do that? 1.00

00:43:16.000 Like, the whole thing the Democrats want is more clips, more clips of Republicans talking about this girl being fat and she should have lost weight and why didn't she just lose the weight.

00:43:25.000 Okay, I thought, by the way, Mika Brzezinski lost her mind over all of this.

00:43:29.000 She said that it's just, it's crazy that we're even talking about this.

00:43:31.000 There shouldn't even be beauty contests in the first place. 1.00

00:43:34.000 It's a beauty contest.

00:43:36.000 I mean, right?

00:43:37.000 Because you can't actually have any weight on your body for a beauty contest because that wouldn't be beautiful. 0.97

00:43:42.000 They had another surrogate last night saying, in fairness, you shouldn't put on 60 pounds if you want to be... Why are they still talking about it?

00:43:48.000 Newt Gingrich said that.

00:43:49.000 Did he?

00:43:50.000 Newt Gingrich is talking about that?

00:43:52.000 Really?

00:43:52.000 That's the pot.

00:43:53.000 Seriously?

00:43:53.000 Are you kidding me?

00:43:54.000 That's the pot calling the kettle black.

00:43:56.000 The proper answer to that question from O'Reilly, by the way, was no, I do not have anything more to say about it.

00:44:00.000 Is that what I mean?

00:44:00.000 No.

00:44:00.000 That's the proper answer.

00:44:01.000 So people like Donald Trump and Newt Gingrich and men can walk around just rotundas, all get out, and it's not an issue.

00:44:12.000 But women, in order to be beautiful, you have to be 117 pounds. 1.00

00:44:17.000 I'm sorry, can someone tell me what year we're in here?

00:44:20.000 Can we stop this here?

00:44:21.000 Okay, so I just want to point out what she's saying.

00:44:24.000 This is a politically effective attack that she's leveling right now, which is that Donald Trump thinks that all big women are not beautiful. 1.00

00:44:31.000 All women who are 10 pounds overweight aren't beautiful. 1.00

00:44:32.000 That's what he's saying.

00:44:34.000 Okay, let me just point out something. 0.99

00:44:36.000 Donald Trump and Newt Gingrich, yes, they're fat. 0.99

00:44:39.000 Yes, they're overweight. 0.88

00:44:40.000 And they're not in any Mr. Bodybuilding contests either.

00:44:43.000 They're not in any beauty contests.

00:44:44.000 They're not.

00:44:45.000 So it's not equivalent. 0.99

00:44:46.000 Just on a factual level, trying to equate Donald Trump being a fatso with a woman whose Miss Universe being overweight is silly. 0.99

00:44:54.000 And can we stop with this nonsense where we pretend that 0.99

00:44:57.000 We're good.

00:45:13.000 We're good to go.

00:45:31.000 I'm not defending Trump. 1.00

00:45:32.000 I think Donald Trump's a jackass. 0.99

00:45:34.000 I think that this is, like, the least of his sexism. 1.00

00:45:36.000 Donald Trump, in the 1980s, said women should be treated like bleep. 1.00

00:45:39.000 Donald Trump said in the early 1990s, I think it was, he said that nothing matters in life as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of ass. 1.00

00:45:46.000 Donald Trump, in this election cycle, said that Heidi Cruz was ugly. 1.00

00:45:49.000 Donald Trump, in this election cycle, said that Megyn Kelly was on her period.

00:45:53.000 Okay, like, there's plenty to go after Trump for. 0.65

00:45:55.000 This story is ginned up, and it's a ridiculous story by the media, but Trump's people can't just let it go.

00:46:01.000 They can't just say it happened 20 years ago. 0.87

00:46:02.000 He shouldn't have said it.

00:46:03.000 We're sorry.

00:46:04.000 One of the reasons, by the way, they can't do that is because then they know the next step will be what they do with the birther story.

00:46:09.000 They'll say, OK, well, if he really feels that bad about it, then why was he still saying sexist things like five minutes ago?

00:46:14.000 And there's no good answer for that.

00:46:15.000 The media is just making hay out of this all the way.

00:46:18.000 CNN, you know, they had a panel about this.

00:46:21.000 There is a Trump supporter who accused Hillary of exploiting weight issues. 1.00

00:46:24.000 And the CNN panel, of course, gets all huffy and they go crazy.

00:46:28.000 I'm a mother.

00:46:28.000 I have three daughters.

00:46:30.000 I have two granddaughters.

00:46:32.000 And we've been through the whole gamut on this issue that Hillary Clinton is now featuring.

00:46:36.000 The weight issue.

00:46:38.000 Gaining weight, or on the other hand, eating disorders.

00:46:41.000 She brought it up at the debate when she mentioned Ms. 0.67

00:46:44.000 Machado.

00:46:45.000 And of course she's running an ad that shows young girls uncomfortably, painfully uncomfortably, looking in the mirror.

00:46:53.000 This to me is very disturbing.

00:46:54.000 I have actually sat at the bedside with a child

00:46:58.000 Very close to death.

00:46:59.000 And families like mine that have suffered so much on this issue are appalled that Mrs. Clinton is exploiting this into a political issue. 0.96

00:47:09.000 You can't be lower than that.

00:47:14.000 But if you are appalled by that and you still support Donald Trump, that's a fundamental issue that you have.

00:47:23.000 Madam Lieutenant Governor, I'll let you finish.

00:47:28.000 She's not just running an ad with women staring in a mirror. 0.97

00:47:32.000 She's running an ad with women staring in a mirror with the words of Donald Trump playing over them. 0.95

00:47:37.000 I'm not going to attack Ms.

00:47:39.000 Machado.

00:47:40.000 I feel sorry for her and after this is all over she's going to be the punchline in some joke just like so many women who have been scarred by the Clintons.

00:47:48.000 From Monica Lewinsky, who's now formed her own anti-bullying foundation. 0.99

00:47:52.000 So I don't want to touch Ms. 1.00

00:47:54.000 Machado.

00:47:55.000 I hope that she's not harmed by all of this.

00:47:59.000 There's no way to spin this thing in your favor.

00:48:02.000 So the best thing that you can do is just move on from it.

00:48:04.000 Say he made some bad comments back in the 1990s, and then hit back with Juanita Broderick and hit back with all the terrible things Hillary has said about Monica Lewinsky and Jennifer Flowers and all of Bill's various bimbettes, right? 0.80

00:48:18.000 That's not a hard thing to do, but they can't let go of it because the campaign reflects the man, and the Trump campaign reflects a very, very insecure man.

00:48:26.000 Again, here's another example.

00:48:27.000 Megyn Kelly's on with Kellyanne Conway.

00:48:28.000 Earlier in this campaign, Kellyanne Conway, when she was on the Cruz side of the ticket, she was saying that Donald Trump was saying sexist things. 0.57

00:48:35.000 Now here's Kellyanne Conway trying to make a very awkward defense to a woman that Donald Trump legitimately attacked for being a woman, Megyn Kelly. 1.00

00:48:41.000 At the end of the debate, after she tried to rough him up over a couple comments he's made over 25 years or so with respect to women, he said, you know, I became prepared to say some rough stuff, but I won't do it because your family's here and your daughter's here.

00:48:56.000 But it's not nice that you're running hundreds of millions of dollars in negative ads against me.

00:49:00.000 Kellyanne.

00:49:01.000 And he has a point.

00:49:02.000 Come on.

00:49:03.000 It's not nice?

00:49:04.000 They are running for president.

00:49:06.000 Of course she's going to hit him with negative ads.

00:49:08.000 But the ads should be true.

00:49:09.000 The ads should be true.

00:49:11.000 The ads that she's running about him when it comes to his comments on women use his words, Kellyanne.

00:49:18.000 Use his words.

00:49:19.000 No, but her ads... Okay, but Megan, why is she spending all this money and not talking about her vision for post-Obamacare?

00:49:25.000 Because there's two facets of a campaign.

00:49:27.000 You know that better than anybody.

00:49:28.000 You hit your opponent and try to disqualify him or her, and then you sell your own vision.

00:49:32.000 You know, you raised the question about, you know, he made a couple comments over 25 years.

00:49:36.000 You know that's not true.

00:49:37.000 You know he has repeatedly made comments about women, about their looks, about their size, their weight, even in this campaign, talking about Carly Fiorina's face, retweeting a negative picture about Heidi Cruz's face, criticizing Hillary Clinton and her look, and Kellyanne, this is an issue for him, is it not?

00:49:55.000 Well, Megan, but is that the campaign issue that Hillary Clinton is running on? 1.00

00:49:58.000 The answer seems to be yes.

00:50:00.000 Do we not deserve, as voters, for this woman to tell us whether she thinks Obamacare is a disaster or not? 0.99

00:50:06.000 Whether she'll take us to single-payer?

00:50:08.000 Good night.

00:50:09.000 I'm sorry.

00:50:09.000 Good night.

00:50:09.000 I mean, like, why isn't she talking about Obamacare?

00:50:12.000 Because this is effective.

00:50:13.000 That's why she's not talking about Obamacare. 0.99

00:50:14.000 And it's going to be effective until your candidate stops being a crap show when it comes to the comments that he's made about women. 0.98

00:50:21.000 But it's impossible to run from it, so the best you could do is swivel and hit Hillary, but she's not even doing that there. 1.00

00:50:26.000 Dana Perino is on with Megyn Kelly, and she basically says the same thing. 0.99

00:50:29.000 Like, just stop.

00:50:30.000 Just stop this. 1.00

00:50:30.000 This is stupid. 1.00

00:50:32.000 And even tonight, as the Trump campaign clearly wants to move beyond this, Newt Gingrich is out there bringing it up again, saying you can't gain a bunch of weight when you become Miss Universe. 1.00

00:50:41.000 Stop talking about women's weight altogether.

00:50:43.000 Right.

00:50:43.000 Stop.

00:50:44.000 You know what?

00:50:44.000 If you want to increase your numbers with women, yeah, just stop telling us how fat we are.

00:50:48.000 Right.

00:50:48.000 Because as it turns out, it doesn't make us feel very good.

00:50:50.000 That might help.

00:50:51.000 Especially when you have been classified as overweight.

00:50:53.000 And we don't want to hear it.

00:50:55.000 In fact, even if you're perfectly fit, and especially if you're perfectly fit, we don't want to hear it.

00:50:58.000 Because you know what?

00:51:01.000 We definitely do not want to hear it.

00:51:03.000 Anymore, bigly.

00:51:04.000 Yeah, that's all.

00:51:05.000 Okay, period, end of report.

00:51:07.000 Great to see you.

00:51:07.000 Thank you.

00:51:08.000 Okay, so that's right.

00:51:08.000 Okay, they're both women and what they're saying about how women want to hear about weight, women don't want to hear about weight.

00:51:14.000 So even if it's true that Alicia Machado should not have gained 60 pounds, even if it's unfair to compare Newt Gingrich, who's not in a beauty contest, to a woman in a beauty contest, it doesn't matter.

00:51:22.000 Even if she gains 60 pounds, does that mean it's okay for Trump to call her Miss Piggy or Miss Housekeeping?

00:51:27.000 Of course it doesn't!

00:51:28.000 Of course it doesn't.

00:51:29.000 But, again, the Trump campaign, every slight must be fought back against, every gauntlet thrown must be picked up, and so they can't just let it go, they can't just move on to other issues or move on to attack.

00:51:40.000 And this is why I think in the second debate you're going to see the same result as the first debate, because Trump has a pathological inability to let these things go. 0.97

00:51:47.000 So no matter that some of this attack is unfair, there's politically stupid and there's true, 0.99

00:51:52.000 And sometimes you can say something true that is also politically, politically stupid. 0.99

00:51:55.000 Also, I mean, it's just amazing to me that the Trump campaign is going to stand on truth when so much of the campaign has been based on just utter nonsense. 0.99

00:52:02.000 Okay.

00:52:03.000 Time for some things that I like, and then some things I hate, and then the mailbag.

00:52:07.000 So, things that I like.

00:52:09.000 So, we'll start, actually, this wasn't in the things I like routine, but I think it's hilarious.

00:52:13.000 Gary Johnson, I don't know how much weed he's smoking on the campaign trail, but he was on with Chris Matthews.

00:52:18.000 All right, everybody, say, take them out.

00:52:20.000 Who are the other world leaders?

00:52:21.000 I wanna know, I wanna know.

00:52:22.000 You've been smoking a lot of pot.

00:52:24.000 Maybe you know what countries are.

00:52:25.000 I know what countries are.

00:52:26.000 I wanna know, who's your favorite world leader?

00:52:28.000 Go! 0.95

00:52:29.000 Who's your favorite foreign leader?

00:52:30.000 Who's my favorite?

00:52:32.000 Just name anywhere in the country, any one of the continents, any country.

00:52:34.000 Name one foreign leader that you respect and look up to.

00:52:37.000 Anybody.

00:52:38.000 My one's Shimon Peres.

00:52:39.000 No, I'm talking about living.

00:52:40.000 Go ahead.

00:52:43.000 You got to do this, anywhere, any continent, Canada, Mexico, Europe, over there, Asia, South America, Africa, name a foreign leader that you respect.

00:52:52.000 I guess I'm having an Aleppo moment in the former president of Mexico.

00:52:55.000 But I'm giving you the whole world.

00:52:56.000 I know, I know, I know.

00:52:57.000 Anybody in the world you like, anybody, pick any leader.

00:53:01.000 The former president of Mexico.

00:53:04.000 Which one? 0.79

00:53:06.000 I'm having a brain.

00:53:07.000 I'm having a brain.

00:53:07.000 Well, name anybody.

00:53:09.000 Fox.

00:53:09.000 Who's your favorite foreign leader?

00:53:11.000 Get him off the hook.

00:53:12.000 Name a foreign leader you respect.

00:53:13.000 He was terrific.

00:53:14.000 Any foreign leader?

00:53:15.000 Merkel.

00:53:16.000 Okay, Merkel.

00:53:16.000 Okay, fine.

00:53:17.000 Save yourself.

00:53:18.000 Can't argue with that.

00:53:19.000 Anyway, let's go.

00:53:21.000 First of all, a couple of quick notes here, things that I think are hilarious here.

00:53:25.000 First of all, Bill Weld looks like he wants to, he's a giant man, Bill Weld.

00:53:28.000 He looks like he wants to backhand Gary Johnson in the next week here.

00:53:31.000 The guy sitting next to Gary Johnson, his VP candidate, if we can get an image of the two of them here, he looks like, he's like, I can't believe this.

00:53:38.000 He's like, I can't believe this. 0.98

00:53:39.000 I'm sitting here with this moron and I'm the VP nominee? 1.00

00:53:42.000 How is this happening? 1.00

00:53:43.000 And Gary Johnson just looking like a deer in the headlights.

00:53:46.000 I'm having an Aleppo moment.

00:53:48.000 Oh my goodness.

00:53:49.000 Second, Chris Matthews, it turns out, when you say, name a leader from any continent, continent like Canada or Mexico. 0.99

00:53:55.000 Canada and Mexico are not continents, you dolt. 1.00

00:53:57.000 Okay, so lots of stupidity happening all the way around. 1.00

00:54:00.000 Just, oh my god. 1.00

00:54:02.000 Like, the minute you start to think maybe there's a candidate who's not gonna stink, they all stink. 1.00

00:54:06.000 They're all terrible, they're all ignorant, they're all stupid. 1.00

00:54:08.000 I mean, honest to god, like, I think most, the problem is if you ask Trump, Trump also couldn't name a foreign leader that he admires except for Vladimir Putin. 1.00

00:54:16.000 Like, he'd have a tough time.

00:54:17.000 Maybe he'd mention Netanyahu because he knows his name because he just met with him, like, two days ago.

00:54:20.000 Okay.

00:54:21.000 Other things that I like.

00:54:22.000 So, since Drew was on and we were talking about religion, a great novel about religion is the novel The Chosen by Chaim Potok.

00:54:33.000 This is Potok's best book, This and the Promise, which is the sequel.

00:54:37.000 It's written by a guy, Chaim Potok, grew up in a very Orthodox home.

00:54:41.000 It's not a pro-Orthodox book.

00:54:43.000 It's got some actually very negative things to say about Orthodoxy.

00:54:47.000 But it's a fascinating book, and it's a glimpse into sort of the debate between modern Orthodoxy and Hasidim, the kind of what people call ultra-Orthodox.

00:54:57.000 And it's really, it's a beautifully written book.

00:55:00.000 Everything to prepare you for the debates, ma'am.

00:55:01.000 Just try and stay focused no matter what your opponent says.

00:55:03.000 Don't let him rattle you.

00:55:04.000 He's going to do whatever he can to try and mess with your head.

00:55:07.000 Don't buy into it. 0.99

00:55:08.000 Whatever he says, just respond with, my opponent is a liar and he cannot be trusted. 0.99

00:55:11.000 Got it. 0.98

00:55:34.000 Okay, let's get right into it.

00:55:41.000 Our first question is for you, sir.

00:55:43.000 How will you deal with ground troops in Syria?

00:55:46.000 Everyone, I need to just speak from the heart here.

00:55:50.000 I don't know what the f*** I'm doing. 0.52

00:55:53.000 I've got to complain. 0.95

00:55:54.000 I had no idea I would get this far.

00:55:57.000 But the fact of the matter is, I should not be president.

00:56:01.000 Okay? 0.99

00:56:01.000 I will f*** this country up beyond repair. 0.99

00:56:04.000 I am a sick, angry little man. 0.99

00:56:07.000 Please, if you care at all about the future of our country, vote for her.

00:56:11.000 Okay?

00:56:12.000 She's the one who at least has some experience.

00:56:14.000 She's not as bad as you think.

00:56:16.000 I promise.

00:56:17.000 And unlike me, she's actually capable of running this country. 0.98

00:56:21.000 My opponent is a liar and he cannot be trusted. 0.99

00:56:24.000 No! 1.00

00:56:25.000 Oh my God, she is such a turd sandwich. 1.00

00:56:27.000 What he is saying is simply not true. 0.88

00:56:30.000 Do not believe it.

00:56:32.000 I am giving you this, lady.

00:56:34.000 I am giving you this! 0.99

00:56:36.000 What the f*** are you doing? 0.99

00:56:38.000 Okay, look, look. 1.00

00:56:39.000 Just vote for her. 1.00

00:56:40.000 She knows politics.

00:56:42.000 She really wants to put this country first. 1.00

00:56:43.000 My opponent is a liar. 1.00

00:56:44.000 Would you just please shut up? 1.00

00:56:45.000 And he cannot be... Get out of your own way! 0.98

00:56:49.000 ...cannot be trusted.

00:56:52.000 Okay, okay, look.

00:56:54.000 She doesn't mean what she's saying. 0.98

00:56:55.000 She just doesn't know how to take this because it's very weird and her advisors probably- My opponent is a liar and cannot be trusted. 1.00

00:57:03.000 Oh, f**k. Why the f**k did it have to be her? 1.00

00:57:05.000 I am so f**ked. 1.00

00:57:08.000 And that's a pretty good summary of the first debate. 0.99

00:57:11.000 Okay, time for a couple of things I hate and then we'll do a little bit of mailbag.

00:57:14.000 So, let's do it. 1.00

00:57:19.000 So animal rights activists are the dumbest people on earth. 1.00

00:57:23.000 I like animals to eat. 0.99

00:57:24.000 I also think animals are cute and cuddly, although I don't want any in my home.

00:57:30.000 So there's a video that's now going around on Facebook of animal rights activists trying to show people what it's like to be a side of beef, which doesn't even make any sense because humans aren't delicious, so far as I'm aware.

00:57:41.000 But here are these animal rights activists, and watch what they do in order to demonstrate—this is in Paris—how terrible it is to be an animal.

00:57:49.000 Yes, that is a real brand.

00:57:54.000 She's being branded.

00:57:55.000 This is a woman being actively branded to demonstrate how terrible it is to be a piece of cattle. 1.00

00:58:03.000 And then being shoved around.

00:58:04.000 And then they're posing on the ground as though they're pieces of meat to show the pain animals go through.

00:58:12.000 All the women are always in bikinis, by the way. 1.00

00:58:13.000 Because it's the only way you can get people to watch these videos.

00:58:17.000 If you had a bunch of, if you had, I mean, not to be, not to fat shame, but if these women were 400 pounds doing this, nobody watches this video. 1.00

00:58:24.000 And then, my God, I mean, they're actually being branded with numbers.

00:58:26.000 Can we stop this?

00:58:27.000 Okay, let me just point something out.

00:58:34.000 Hey, animals are not the same as human beings.

00:58:36.000 They're not, okay?

00:58:36.000 A cow is not the same as a human being.

00:58:38.000 And one of the great evils of our time is the fact that we treat human babies in the womb with less respect than we treat your dog or cat.

00:58:44.000 And it ain't close.

00:58:45.000 And it ain't close.

00:58:46.000 But it's just, I mean, like, why a person would brand themselves in an attempt to make me worry about a cow, like, I don't worry more about the cow, I worry now about your mental health.

00:58:57.000 You're going to carry a brand around the rest of your life because you don't want to eat a cow?

00:59:01.000 How many cows are you going to save by being branded?

00:59:02.000 I mean, just again, the equation of human beings to animals, but I guess that's the logical end effect of a certain brand of leftist atheism that says that human beings are not more worthy of care than animals are.

00:59:15.000 The same sorts of people, and Dennis Prager has a good moral test for people.

00:59:18.000 He says, if you see in a river, just two things in a river, one is a person and one is your dog, which one do you save?

00:59:26.000 A lot of people who are sort of leftist atheists might say I would save my dog.

00:59:30.000 The mark of a good human being is I'd save the human being, because human beings are more valuable than animals.

00:59:34.000 If you don't believe human beings are more valuable than animals, then there's no basis for human rights, there's no basis for human equality, there's no basis for the idea that humans ought to be treated with care.

00:59:44.000 Okay, let's do some mailbag. 0.87

00:59:45.000 Let's do some mailbag. 0.88

01:00:01.000 Wow, brand new graphic there, too.

01:00:02.000 Magical.

01:00:03.000 Okay, so, this is from Ethan.

01:00:05.000 What sources would you recommend to someone who wants to learn more about the political landscape of the Middle East and the relationship between Israel and the other Middle Eastern countries?

01:00:13.000 Okay, as I say, there's a book called Myths and Facts by Mitchell Bard that's a very kind of easy read.

01:00:17.000 It's got little snippets on what's true and false about the Middle East.

01:00:20.000 That's a good place to start.

01:00:21.000 Brian says, I believe it is not the government's responsibility to educate our child on religion.

01:00:26.000 That is the right of parents.

01:00:27.000 What are your thoughts on religion being taught in public schools?

01:00:30.000 So, I don't think that religion ought to be taught in public schools as a general rule, but I also don't think that secular religion ought to be taught.

01:00:37.000 So, their views of secular morality, the idea that all sexual behavior is created equal, the idea that schools are going to teach about men, marrying men, the idea that all forms of family are the same.

01:00:49.000 Like, social issues are inherently religious issues, and just because the left says,

01:00:53.000 All right.

01:00:54.000 Taylor writes,

01:01:23.000 What are your thoughts on the controversial issue of mothers breastfeeding their newborns in public?

01:01:27.000 So, my wife has had two babies.

01:01:29.000 We have the two-and-a-half-year-old, who's adorable and I need to pick up and I'm late, and the four-month-old, who is just the happiest little man who ever lived.

01:01:39.000 And when it comes to breastfeeding in public, I think that women should be able to breastfeed in public. 0.98

01:01:43.000 I don't think that it is appropriate for women to pull out their boob and not have a cover. 1.00

01:01:48.000 I think so.

01:02:12.000 The idea that the rules of modesty go out the window because it's inconvenient for you to use a feeding cover is bizarre to me.

01:02:19.000 I'm not a big fan of the avert your eyes notion when it comes to the public space.

01:02:23.000 When it comes to the public space, you know, everybody sort of has an equal right to the public space, and that does mean that I don't have the obligation to look at your naked body.

01:02:34.000 And so I'm not a big fan of mothers. 0.84

01:02:37.000 Breastfeeding, like, without a nursing cover, and that's why they created nursing covers. 1.00

01:02:41.000 Okay, John writes, Hi Ben, do you think Trump should commit to pursuing prosecution against Hillary if he is elected?

01:02:47.000 Well, I mean, I think that, yeah, I certainly think the DOJ, a new DOJ should take a look at Hillary Clinton. 1.00

01:02:53.000 I think that she committed criminal acts. 0.74

01:02:54.000 I don't see why that should go by the wayside.

01:02:57.000 So, so sure.

01:02:58.000 Yeah, I think that that's, I think that's a worthy goal.

01:03:01.000 Jeremy says,

01:03:03.000 Hi Ben, two questions.

01:03:04.000 Do you ever plan on running for political office at some point in the future?

01:03:07.000 If you were running for president, I'd support you in a heartbeat.

01:03:09.000 Two, would you ever consider leaving California for a freer state such as Texas?

01:03:13.000 Yes, I would consider leaving California for a freer state such as Texas, and if they indeed crack down on religion in the ways that I fear they will, a lot of religious people will be looking at that.

01:03:22.000 As far as running for political office at some point in the future, as I've said before, if nothing else, this election demonstrates that literally anyone in America, including my small children,

01:03:31.000 All right.

01:03:49.000 Thank you. 0.71

01:04:07.000 If you weren't racist, you'd be in favor of using our communal power in order to help black folks. 0.98

01:04:11.000 You don't want to do that, and therefore you're racist.

01:04:13.000 Anytime you have the government that is doing an action that specifically helps one group of people, and somebody opposes that action, they're going to say you're against the group of people, not that you're against that use of government.

01:04:23.000 That's how it works.

01:04:24.000 That's why Donald Trump right now, he's saying, you know, I want tariffs that are going to help a bunch of people in Ohio.

01:04:29.000 And I say, look, that's not the job of government.

01:04:31.000 Government doesn't get to determine which groups of people sink or swim in the economy.

01:04:36.000 And people say, well, that means that you're anti-blue collar workers.

01:04:38.000 No, it doesn't mean I'm

01:04:38.000 I don't know.

01:05:02.000 I don't know.

01:05:18.000 No.

01:05:19.000 Both things can be true at once.

01:05:20.000 No, he should not be pardoned.

01:05:22.000 Okay, I think the difference between nationalism and patriotism

01:05:39.000 is that nationalism means you believe in the country.

01:05:42.000 Patriotism means you believe in the founding ideals of the country or the basic idea behind the country.

01:05:47.000 So if you are a nationalist, if you're a German nationalist, you believe in the German people.

01:05:51.000 If you're an American nationalist, you believe in the American people.

01:05:54.000 If you're an American patriot, you believe in the foundational documents and ideas of the United States, and you believe that those have eternal validity and truth.

01:06:01.000 So I'm a patriot, but I'm not a nationalist.

01:06:04.000 I don't believe that being a patriot, I don't believe that not being a nationalist means you're against America's national interests.

01:06:08.000 I'm very much in favor of America's national interests, but those national interests have to be good, right?

01:06:14.000 They have to be in line with the preservation of the ideals that stand behind the country.

01:06:19.000 Hudson writes, hi Ben, love your show.

01:06:20.000 My question is who is right, the Anti-Federalists or the Federalists?

01:06:23.000 In what system is federal aggrandizement preventable?

01:06:26.000 So the answer is they were both half right.

01:06:27.000 The Federalists were correct that you need a central government that's stronger than the Articles of Confederation.

01:06:33.000 The Anti-Federalists were correct that almost inevitably, as soon as you grant a centralized power to any government,

01:06:40.000 That centralized power is going to grow and grow.

01:06:42.000 So both can be true.

01:06:44.000 And that's why the proper response is you should worry about what the anti-federalists had to say so you can provide a check on the federalists.

01:06:51.000 Without a central government, there's anarchy.

01:06:53.000 With an overpowering central government, there's tyranny.

01:06:56.000 And the only time liberty is available is when you're in between.

01:06:59.000 Okay, folks, that brings us to the end of the week.

01:07:01.000 Thanks so much to the subscribers who are sending us mail, who are sending us questions in the middle of that.

01:07:07.000 Kind of a cool thing.

01:07:08.000 And we look forward to seeing you next week.

01:07:10.000 Now, warning, I'm going to be out for Rosh Hashanah, which I believe Rosh Hashanah, if I'm not mistaken, is next Monday, Tuesday, so I'll be out hanging with God, but I will be back in the middle of next week as soon as the Jewish holidays are over. 0.84

01:07:25.000 Hopefully.

01:07:25.000 That's a long break.

01:07:26.000 Try not to ruin things while I'm gone.

01:07:27.000 Well, screw that.

01:07:28.000 You already ruined things.

01:07:28.000 So try not to actually destroy the country while I'm gone.

01:07:31.000 And if everything is still here, then I'll see you next week.

01:07:33.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

01:07:34.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - September 29, 2016

Ep. 189 - Yes, Comey's FBI Was Rigged For Hillary

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