The media s wild new obsession with fat shaming and Trumpian sexism has been elevated by Hillary Clinton to her very top campaign issue. Michelle Obama joined the Hillary campaign to explain, if a candidate regularly and flippantly makes cruel and insulting comments about women, that s who that candidate really is. Hillary herself tweeted, a man who bullies and shames a woman for her weight should never become president. Now, it s true, Trump routinely makes gross remarks about women because he s a jackass. But the Democrats' high-horse attitude about sexism is a little galling. Let s take a brief trip down memory lane. JFK was the ultimate Democratic hero and was a disgusting pig with women. LBJ was not merely a disgusting racist, he commonly used the n-word. Bill Clinton boasted of his sexual prowess and had long affairs with at least two women as well as casual flings with members of his staff. Andrew Klavan joins the show to argue that Hillary is applying a standard that goes back 50 years to every Democratic president since Jimmy Carter. And there goes Hillary Clinton. Plus, we'll talk about fat people, too. Plus we'll have to talk about all the Democrats like Hillary and fat people like Bill and all the fat people they talk about, like JFK and LBJ, like LBJ and Bill and Hillary and Bill, like all the other Democrats. Plus, a controversial segment where we actually battle it out to see who's better, Andrew or Drew? and we'll be joined by Andrew Kavan, too! Ben Shapiro, Andrew, and Andrew - The Ben Shapiro Show, Ben Shapiro Subscribe to the Ben Shapiro show on Apple Podcasts, Podchuck, Gold, and more! Subscribe on iTunes and leave us a review and tell us what you think of Ben Shapiro's take on this episode on the latest episode on Ben Shapiro s new book, The Devil Next Door on The Devil Wears Not a Ring? on the Anchor. Subscribe and review Ben Shapiro is a Badass? Subscribe for a chance to get a discount on a new episode of his new book out in paperback edition of The Dark Side of the show, The Devil Knows How to Read It All? and more Ben Shapiro Is a Goodie, Too Good, Too Badass by Ben Shapiro? by clicking here and Ben Shapiro on Birch Gold and Ben Gold is a Friend of the Economy, too Badass Gold?
00:00:00.000The media's wild new obsession with fat shaming and Trumpian sexism has been elevated by Hillary Clinton to her very top campaign issue.
00:00:07.000Michelle Obama joined the Hillary campaign to explain, quote, if a candidate regularly and flippantly makes cruel and insulting comments about women, that's who that candidate really is.
00:00:16.000Hillary herself tweeted, quote, a man who bullies and shames a woman for her weight should never become president.
00:00:21.000Now, it's true, Trump routinely makes gross comments about women because he's a jackass, but the Democrats' high-horse attitude about sexism is a little galling.
00:00:30.000Let's take a brief trip down memory lane.
00:00:43.000Once we were alone in his wife's bedroom, he'd maneuvered me so swiftly and unexpectedly, and with such authority and strength that, short of screaming, I don't think anything would have thwarted his intentions.
00:00:53.000She then told—he, by the way, told Alfred afterward to perform oral sex on his special assistant, Dave Powers.
00:00:59.000He also told her to pleasure his brother, Teddy.
00:01:01.000That's just the tip of the JFK iceberg.
00:01:34.000He boasted of his sexual prowess and had long affairs with at least two women, as well as casual flings with members of his staff.
00:01:40.000How about Bill and, like, Hillary Clinton?
00:01:42.000Bill Clinton allegedly raped one woman and his wife Hillary allegedly intimidate her.
00:01:46.000Bill sexually harassed a bevy of other women and Hillary allegedly ran a war room to fight bimbo eruptions.
00:01:51.000She referred to Jennifer Flowers as trailer trash.
00:01:54.000She called Monica Lewinsky a narcissistic looney tune.
00:01:56.000But hey folks, anybody who makes cruel and insulting comments about women should not be president.
00:02:02.000By the way, the Obama White House has been rocked by chargers of sexism, too.
00:02:05.000Christina Roemer, the former head of Obama's Council of Economic Advisers, she said she, quote, felt like a piece of meat while working in the Obama White House.
00:02:12.000Anita Dunn, former White House Communications Director, she said the Obama White House, quote, actually fit all of the classical legal requirements for a genuinely hostile workplace to women.
00:02:21.000Obama spends his presidency golfing with men only, as Katie Pavlich points out in her book.
00:02:26.000As I've pointed out before, one of the things I hate about this election is the they-did-it-to excuse.
00:02:31.000It's not a good excuse for sexism or being a pig.
00:02:33.000But Hillary is actually applying a standard.
00:02:36.000If you've ever done anything sexist to a woman or said anything nasty to a woman publicly, you can't be president.
00:02:41.000Well, if that's the standard, that goes for every Democratic president for the last 50 years outside of Jimmy Carter.
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00:04:31.000We're very, very excited to welcome to the show Andrew Klavan.
00:05:30.000And so for me, I've actually told rabbis that one of the things they should do is assign this book to parents as sort of a cautionary tale.
00:05:36.000You know, from my angle, as an Orthodox Jew, what's fascinating about the book is that, you know, it's called The Secular Jew Comes to Faith in Christ, but I want to ask you what you mean by secular Jew, because the truth is,
00:05:46.000That it's sort of a contradiction in terms.
00:05:47.000For a religious Jew, just like for, you know, now you're a practicing Christian, the idea of a secular Christian doesn't make any sense.
00:05:54.000So for me, a secular Jew is just somebody who was born into a Jewish family but had no clue about kind of what authentic Judaism is.
00:06:00.000So, and why don't you give kind of the background as to the Jewish home that you grew up in.
00:06:34.000And my father, as I say in the book, he didn't want to play games with a gigantic invisible Jew who could give you cancer just by thinking about it.
00:06:45.000But he didn't really believe the way you and I both believe.
00:06:48.000And so, for me, who has had this lifelong insistence that things make sense, that the words coming out of my mouth have some correlation to reality as it is, or even internal reality, I just found the entire thing absolute hypocrisy and nonsense.
00:07:05.000So by the time I was Bar Mitzvahed, I was standing up in front of people, and I've only done this once in my life, and this is it, standing up in front of people saying words that I knew for a fact weren't true, saying I believed in things that I knew for a fact weren't true.
00:07:17.000And I talk about how in the book, you know, you've got all this gelt in those days.
00:07:20.000You've got a lot of jewelry and all this stuff.
00:07:21.000And after six months, I crept out when everyone was asleep and I threw it all away, which should have gotten me thrown out of Judaism right there.
00:07:30.000And I think that that's, this is why I say that rabbis, that Jews should read this book more to say, okay, if you're going to raise your kid as a Jew, if you're somebody like me who cares about raising your kid as a Jew,
00:07:39.000You actually have to explain why they're doing the things they're doing.
00:07:42.000You can't just say that Judaism is a culture, it's about matzo ball soup and the Holocaust, and then expect kids to actually take anything here seriously.
00:07:49.000Because, I mean, we're both fans of musical theater.
00:07:52.000When you watch Fiddler on the Roof, and you get to the end, and one of the daughters marries out, and she marries somebody who's not Jewish, that's a natural consequence of the very first song in tradition where they say, tradition.
00:08:03.000We don't know why we do it, but it's the tradition.
00:08:05.000If you don't know why you're doing it, it's not going to be a big wonder if your kids move away from it.
00:08:09.000It would seem to me that God would be kind of the baseline, you know?
00:08:12.000You've got to be praying to something.
00:08:13.000You've got to be doing it for some reason.
00:08:14.000Because otherwise, I get the tradition.
00:08:16.000I get some kind of idea that this is what your race comes from.
00:08:20.000But especially in America, where you really don't feel constrained by race at all, or you shouldn't.
00:08:30.000Basically, it was like talking to strangers all the time.
00:08:32.000So I want to start with sort of asking you about your transition to becoming a religious person, and then we can get into the Jew versus Christian aspect of this.
00:08:39.000Because there's the part, just like Judaism versus Christianity, the first part I'm with you, the second part I'm not.
00:08:44.000So when it comes to your transition to religion, because you were an atheist for a while, what was it that triggered you?
00:08:51.000And you talk about it in The Great Good Thing, but what was it that triggered you to move from atheistic, secular humanism, essentially, to a conservative religious person?
00:09:01.000Well, when I was coming up in college, it was when that leftist wave of relativism was first coming in.
00:09:08.000And the idea that there was nothing good or bad, but thinking makes it so, from Hamlet and all this stuff.
00:09:14.000And multiculturalism, one culture is just as good as another.
00:09:18.000You know, the evidence of mine eyes, you know, was enough for me to start thinking, that's not true.
00:09:23.000And there were things that I read and thought along the way, like Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment.
00:09:27.000I remember sitting and reading Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment, which is basically one long argument against Nietzsche and relativism, and just thinking like, oh wait, you know, that really works.
00:10:08.000I was living in New York, in Hollywood, in London, those are the places I worked, those are the people I knew, where to say anything about God was to brand yourself as a rube.
00:10:17.000So it was just very slowly that I started to realize that I was swimming in this water, but the land was over there and I had to go.
00:10:25.000And really what happened one night, I was reading a book in which one of the characters I admired said a prayer.
00:10:48.000That's one of the things that's really nice about your personal experience is that you talk at length about the value for you of prayer, and you've had some very spiritual experiences along the way, which begs the second question.
00:11:01.000So I think there are a lot of people who believe in God, and that brings them to the second question, which is, okay, well, why the Bible?
00:11:06.000Why not just, okay, so there's a God who's moral in the universe, and why can't we just be like the supposedly deistic founders?
00:11:13.000Obviously, they're much more Christian than people want to give them credit for, but the idea that, okay, God's just a giant clockmaker, and he's built into the system self-evident truths, the way that Jefferson puts it.
00:11:29.000I started reading all these books that I loved, and, you know, I loved all the detective stories, and I realized that the detective stories and Ernest Hemingway, those
00:12:35.000But what happened was, as I started to teach myself literature, as I started to teach myself the culture, I realized that it was at the center of the entire logic
00:12:45.000of everything we are, like nobody, and this includes Jewish people, I think, too, nobody in the West speaks anything that isn't in some way tinged and connected to Christianity.
00:12:57.000Now, if you're Jewish, I think this also goes back through Christianity to something older, I agree.
00:13:03.000Maimonides' take on Christianity is that basically Christianity, and he even says this about Islam, although to a lesser extent, that these were kind of almost like the publicity wing.
00:13:40.000And so when I started to think about God, I think that was the God I was thinking of, even before I knew it was.
00:13:46.000Okay, so now let's get to the places where we disagree, because we've gotten to all the places where we agree, and so we both get screamed at for not disagreeing enough.
00:13:54.000So, you know, obviously my view as a Jew is that, my personal view of Jesus, is that Jesus was a normal Orthodox Jew who was trying to, and this is sort of what Chaim Maccoby writes in his books about, I don't know if you've ever read any of his books, sort of about the historicity of Jesus, is what he says is that basically he was an Orthodox Jew who tried to lead a revolt against the Romans,
00:14:15.000Number one, how deeply were you aware of Judaism before you converted to Christianity?
00:14:39.000And number two, why do you find the historicity of Christianity to be a fulfillment of Judaism as opposed to just, we're right and Christianity is an offshoot?
00:15:01.000And my problem with that, and I think you would probably agree, it wasn't my religion.
00:15:05.000It's like, I don't know about Zoroastrianism that much either, you know?
00:15:09.000And this is one of the problems with just the, I mean, Jewish religion inherently connects ethnic Judaism to religious Judaism because you have to be ethnically Jewish.
00:15:17.000You can convert into Judaism, but if you are ethnically Jewish, and you know this obviously, is that, according to me, you're still Jewish, right?
00:15:22.000Even after you convert to Christianity, you're still a Jew.
00:15:25.000Now, I know that you're a practicing Christian, and that's your prerogative, obviously.
00:15:28.000But, you know, according to my religious belief, you're still a Jew.
00:16:02.000But I will say this, just from my internal world, just speaking as a spiritual guy who really cares about this stuff, I never felt like a Jew until I became a Christian.
00:16:51.000And it was going back then to the New Testament and reading it in belief that that's what transformed me.
00:16:57.000And the idea, I've read a lot of historical stuff about Jesus, and I find it kind of empty.
00:17:02.000And one of the things is, is that it is the natural inclination of historians to debunk.
00:17:07.000It is natural to them, and the greatest story, of course, is the story of Troy, you know?
00:17:11.000It's just a poem, it's just a myth, and all this stuff, and there's one guy who keeps saying, no, you know, I think this is true.
00:17:16.000When I read stories like going into the empty tomb and finding this cloth was rolled up this way and this cloth... You know, I'm a guy who's read stories and studied stories all my life.
00:17:25.000That sounds like an eyewitness account to me.
00:17:27.000But I wouldn't even argue with it because until you believe, until you believe there's no evidence, and once you believe, the evidence is all around.
00:17:34.000I mean, I think that that's the way it works.
00:17:36.000It's not something you can argue with people about or convince people about.
00:17:42.000At a certain point, whatever religion you believe, there is an inherent leap of faith that takes place.
00:17:46.000I mean, if you're a Jew, the belief that God came down on a mountaintop and spoke to 600,000 people, that's a leap of faith.
00:17:52.000Nobody's ever seen that happen in the modern world, obviously.
00:17:54.000And the same thing is true in Christianity.
00:17:59.000Look, as a Jew, it's a point of sadness whenever somebody who's ethnically Jewish, you know, does not, never had the opportunity to really, you know, look at their own religion before looking at Christianity, but I'm not going to fault somebody for looking at Christianity and saying, this is the truth that I found here.
00:18:14.000Because, you know, you're thinking adult human being.
00:18:17.000And so, this is why, you know, I think it's important to have the conversation, not as a matter of comparative religion, because, again, we can agree to disagree, and I can be sad about your decisions, and you can be sad about mine, right?
00:18:28.000As a Jew, I read it and I agreed with 95% of it.
00:18:51.000You just dropped Jesus' name, and I agree with 100% of it, basically.
00:18:55.000And I think that it's more of a fascinating rebuke of secular morality than anything, maybe anything I've ever read.
00:19:05.000I mean, it is a ringing rebuke of the idea that you can have a workable society founded on the basis of secularism.
00:19:13.000Even to a certain extent on an individual level.
00:19:16.000We both believe that there are atheists and agnostics who are great people who do wonderful things for the world and live a moral lifestyle.
00:19:23.000But there is, at root, everybody is living in this world of morality, whether you like it or not.
00:19:27.000You can pretend you're not, but you're living in this world of morality.
00:20:48.000Next time we'll have Drew on and we'll actually make jokes and talk about politics as opposed to going into deep theology about God and secularism.
00:20:54.000But that's next time he writes a funny book.
00:20:56.000Okay, so we're going to talk a little bit about politics in just a moment.
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00:21:56.000Okay, so I want to talk politics briefly before we have to let you go here on the Facebook Live, as well as YouTube.
00:22:07.000Let's talk briefly about, we'll get to Hillary and fat people and all the rest of the stupidity that they want us to talk about, but first, let's talk about things that actually matter.
00:22:16.000President Obama was on CNN last night, and a gold star mom gets up and asks him a question, and Barack Obama, because he has none of the knowledge about Western civilization and Judeo-Christian religion that anyone with open eyes has, here's Barack Obama's answer with regard to Islamic terrorism.
00:22:32.000Do you still believe that the acts of terrorism are done
00:22:36.000With a self-proclaimed Islamic religious motives?
00:22:40.000And if you do, why do you still refuse to use the term racially, I'm sorry, Islamic terrorist?
00:22:48.000Well, first of all, I want to thank your son, obviously, for his service.
00:22:53.000Where we see terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda or ISIL, they have
00:23:06.000perverted and distorted and tried to claim the mantle of Islam for an excuse for basically barbarism and death.
00:23:21.000Okay, so he says that they're trying to claim it for barbarism and death, and therefore he won't use those terms.
00:23:27.000And then he continued on by saying that, he said, quote, if you had an organization that was going around killing and blowing people up, and said, we're on the vanguard of Christianity, as a Christian, I'm not gonna let them claim my religion and say you're killing for Christ.
00:23:48.000Every time he mentions Islamic terrorism, he pretends that there's this giant wave of Jesus freaks who are running around blowing people up and shooting them in malls, and it isn't happening, okay?
00:23:57.000He has to make up a Christian terrorist group in order to not talk about Islamic terrorist groups, right?
00:24:16.000Saudi Arabia, we just passed a bill yesterday saying that people can sue members of the government of Saudi Arabia over terrorism because of the connections between members of the Saudi government and people like the terrorists in al-Qaeda.
00:24:27.000And he's pretending that Christianity is the same thing.
00:24:29.000Well, if there are Christian terrorists, then I'd feel bad about that.
00:24:32.000So I wouldn't power a Muslim, I'd feel bad.
00:24:33.000Yeah, except that there is no such connection between Christians and so-called Christian terrorists.
00:25:16.000Okay, the fact is, I did this video that's gotten a lot of flack from the left, where I broke down the poll numbers on how many people in various Muslim countries believe in honor killings and believe in the rule of Sharia law.
00:25:26.000Not just they want to go to Islamic court to deal with their finances, but like actual sharia law and criminal law, hands chopped off, penalties for blasphemy, that kind of stuff.
00:25:34.000And you're talking hundreds of millions of people who believe these kinds of things.
00:25:37.000And if those are connected to terrorism, which a lot of those ideas seem to be, then maybe you start connecting those ideas to terrorism in order to fight them.
00:25:45.000Equating the global Christian reaction to terrorism to global Islamic reaction is ridiculous.
00:25:49.000He says, as a Christian, I wouldn't be happy with that.
00:25:58.000Now, there are some Muslims who condemn acts of terrorism.
00:26:00.000There are also lots more Muslims who are openly rallying in the streets to lock up people who blaspheme the prophet if they draw a cartoon.
00:26:09.000Right, the fact is that there are riots every time a woman exposes, you know, is in a bikini in an Islamic country.
00:26:15.000And that happened, I think, in Nigeria about five years ago.
00:26:17.000So this sort of equation just doesn't exist.
00:26:20.000Finally, you know, Obama's—this is why Trump is rising on this particular issue.
00:26:25.000Obama's failure to label terrorism what it is, Islamic terrorism, it trickles down to policy.
00:26:31.000One, it means that when we see a red flag like, oh, the guy visited Saudi Arabia, and he came back with his wife from Hajj, and then he's on sites that are ISIS-friendly, we go, oh, well, I don't see anything really suspicious there.
00:26:42.000Like, the ISIS-friendly thing is weird, but I'm not going to look at the trip on Hajj to Saudi Arabia and picking up his wife there from Pakistan.
00:26:48.000I'm not going to see that as a problem.
00:26:50.000And that's how you end up with the killers in San Bernardino.
00:26:53.000We treat it as though it's not a red flag.
00:26:58.000Extremist Islam, radical Islam is a red flag.
00:27:01.000When connected with other red flags, it's obviously a problem.
00:27:04.000And people in government have been punished for—I mean, there are whistleblowers who have come out and said the Department of Homeland Security has wiped databases if those databases contain information about Islamic terrorist groups that are overbroad.
00:27:17.000More than that, Americans are intimidated into failing to report suspicious activities by Muslims.
00:27:31.000I am being sued by a clock boy and his father over the fact that I said back in last year that I thought that the whole thing was a setup, that I thought that the entire routine was they went in there with a device that looked like a bomb.
00:27:45.000What I said is I thought that it was opinion, right?
00:27:48.000Opinion, which is protected by the First Amendment.
00:27:50.000But the idea was that if you express an opinion that this was not a case of Islamophobia, this was actually a case that was meant to generate headlines about Islamophobia, then you get sued.
00:27:58.000And the idea is, okay, if we can shut everybody down and shut them up, then people will simply stop talking about this kind of thing.
00:28:03.000Okay, well, it's all fun and games until somebody actually walks into a school with a device that looks like a bomb and it ain't a clock.
00:28:10.000So, finally, if you actually want to fight radical Islam, you have to reform the ideology.
00:28:15.000If you refuse to acknowledge a necessity to reform the ideology, you're going to fail.
00:28:21.000General Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, who's the dictator of Egypt, he's talked about reforming Islam.
00:28:26.000President Obama is completely ignoring him, pretending it's not relevant.
00:28:28.000So that's why when Trump says it's important to mention radical Islamic terror, that's true.
00:28:33.000I don't know if Trump knows why it's true.
00:30:03.000He can't say that, so here's his answer.
00:30:05.000As Commander-in-Chief, how do you feel about those NFL players choosing this typically respected time to voice their opinions?
00:30:13.000Well, as I've said before, I believe that us honoring our flag and our anthem is part of what binds us together as a nation.
00:30:29.000And I think that for me, for my family,
00:30:36.000For those who work in the White House, we recognize what it means to us, but also what it means to the men and women who are fighting on our behalf.
00:30:48.000But I'm also always trying to remind folks that part of what makes this country special is that we respect people's rights to have a different opinion.
00:31:07.000And to make different decisions about how they want to express their concerns.
00:31:13.000But here, you can see how he's struggling for words.
00:31:15.000The reason he's struggling for words is because, look, we all agree Colin Kaepernick has a right to be a moron.
00:32:50.000And James Comey says, no, no, no, that doesn't show that it's a cover-up.
00:32:54.000He granted, by the way, immunity to that IT guy.
00:32:57.000He says it wasn't a cover-up and also it's not a violation of his immunity deal, even though he was asking on Reddit after he'd been granted immunity and taking further action to delete an archive of Hillary's emails.
00:33:09.000Paul Combetta with Platte River Networks posted to Reddit
00:33:15.000Asking how to strip out a VIP's, very VIP, e-mail address from a bunch of archived e-mail, end quote.
00:33:24.000Isn't this information evidence of obstruction of justice and a violation of Mr. Combetta's immunity deal?
00:34:03.000Yeah, except for the fact that you have emails, including Hillary's IT people, talking about Hillary's cover-up operation.
00:34:09.000You know, Louie Gohmert, who's a, I'm friends with Louie, Louie's a great guy, Republican congressman from Texas.
00:34:14.000Here's Louie Gohmert grilling Comey, saying, you gave immunity to people, you didn't have to, and Louie's a judge, I mean, actually, Louie actually knows about this stuff.
00:34:21.000If an FBI agent came in and recommended that we give immunity to a witness to get her laptop, that we could get with a subpoena or warrant, then I would ask the FBI not to ever allow this agent on a case.
00:34:37.000Can you explain succinctly why you chose to give immunity, without a proffer of what was on the laptop, give immunity to Cheryl Mills while she was an important witness and you could have gotten her laptop with a warrant or subpoena?
00:34:57.000The immunity we're calling about here, and the details really matter, that we're talking about is act of production immunity, which says we want you to give us a thing,
00:35:05.000We won't use anything we find on that thing directly against you.
00:35:09.000It's a fairly... And I understand that and I understood that from reading the immunity deal and that's what's so shocking because she was working directly with Hillary Clinton and therefore it's expected since the evidence indicates she was pretty well copied on so many of the emails that Hillary Clinton was using that pretty much anything in there would have
00:35:42.000Okay, there's no Fifth Amendment defense to a subpoena.
00:35:45.000If she's subpoenaed, she has to turn over all the documents you gave her immunity based on anything that she turned over, which makes no sense.
00:35:53.000The only reason you did that is because you wanted to grant her immunity.
00:35:56.000Trey Gowdy says that Cheryl Mills, the person he's talking about, Hillary's assistant, Cheryl Mills just walked out of the FBI interview when she didn't like the questions because she had immunity.
00:36:04.000And that's the same Cheryl Mills that stormed out of the FBI interview, correct?
00:36:08.000And was never asked those questions that got her angry enough to leave?
00:36:12.000She stormed out because her lawyer, who used to work for the Department of Justice, by the way, and the DOJ lawyers had an agreement about what she would and would not be asked.
00:36:22.000And the FBI apparently was not part of that deal.
00:36:25.000So they, God forbid, asked a question that went into an area she didn't want it to go.
00:37:08.000And as you recall, Loretta Lynch hanging out with Bill Clinton on the tarmac.
00:37:11.000So, this whole thing, this is why it's horrifying when the DOJ becomes politicized, the FBI becomes politicized.
00:37:18.000Comey, who spent his entire career building this sort of sterling character reference for himself, blows it all up over this case.
00:37:23.000I said at the time it was a corrupt deal, and it was.
00:37:27.000Well, that—you know, it would be awesome.
00:37:29.000It would be really nice if we had a candidate, like a Republican candidate, who would talk about these things, who knew them, understood the email scandal, talked about the immunity deals granted by the FBI, why Barack Obama's administration is covering up for Hillary Clinton.
00:37:42.000Unfortunately, our nominee is Donald Trump.
00:37:43.000So, that's—that doesn't mean everything he says is bad, so let's do some Good Trump, Bad Trump, The Time Has Come, Good Trump, Bad Trump, Thursday edition, thanks to Brandon Snipes for the theme.
00:38:00.000All right, so we begin with good Trump.
00:38:02.000So, Donald Trump, after his debate, he's, we'll get to bad Trump in a second.
00:38:07.000After his debate, he's been on the campaign trail, and here is Donald Trump saying what is true about Hillary Clinton and the police, and this is accurate.
00:38:16.000But I thought her answer, having to do with the police, was very, very disrespectful to the police.
00:38:22.000She was petrified to talk about them in a positive way, and I thought, frankly, that was a disgrace.
00:38:27.000Yeah, I thought you were gonna bring that out.
00:38:28.000I think it was a very disrespectful... Well, I thought it was a very disrespectful answer to the police.
00:39:47.000Okay, so Donald Trump can't help himself.
00:39:50.000He continues, his campaign continues to futz around over this Alicia Machado story that we talked about yesterday, this Miss Universe from 1997 who gained like 50 pounds after she was named Miss Universe and Trump allegedly called her Miss Piggy and Miss Housekeeping.
00:40:03.000First of all, quick note, I don't understand why the Miss Piggy thing is significantly worse than the Miss Housekeeping thing.
00:40:09.000I'm calling a Latina woman Miss Housekeeping seems like much worse to me than a woman has one obligation in life, not to get fat, she gains 50 pounds, and then he calls her Miss Piggy.
00:40:19.000Like, he's still a jackass, but Trump says this kind of stuff to everybody.
00:40:22.000The Miss Housekeeping thing is like an actual racial slur, so that I find bizarre.
00:40:29.000Nonetheless, Trump can't back off of it.
00:40:31.000He's got all of his surrogates out there today talking about how Alicia Machado really deserved it.
00:40:35.000And, of course, this plays right into the Democrat playbook.
00:40:37.000All the Democrats had to do was chum the waters a little bit, and they knew that Shark Trump would come up and try and eat the boat.
00:40:44.000And he's not big enough to swallow the boat.
00:40:46.000I mean, they chummed the waters with all this Alicia Machado stuff, and they continue to do so.
00:40:50.000So here's Michelle Obama saying, we can't have somebody like Trump.
00:41:28.000If a candidate is erratic and threatening, if a candidate traffics in prejudice, fears, and lies on the campaign trail, if a candidate thinks that not paying taxes makes you smart,
00:41:43.000Or that it's good business when people lose their homes.
00:41:47.000If a candidate regularly and flippantly makes cruel and insulting comments about women, about how we look, how we act, well sadly, that's who that candidate really is.
00:42:04.000Okay, so she's obviously ripping into Donald Trump over the women comments.
00:42:08.000As we mentioned at the top of the show, Hillary's made comments about women for years.
00:42:11.000But, again, the Trump people, they've been turned into Trump's troll army.
00:42:16.000A lot of the GOP's been turned into the Trump troll army.
00:42:18.000And so you've got, for example, the Florida GOP tweeting out actual stories suggesting that Hillary won the debate because she was wired for sound.
00:42:26.000She had a wire running up her back and somebody was feeding her the answers.
00:42:29.000You have the entire apparently right-wing radio and blogosphere talking about why online polls, the unscientific online polls, why those are just as good as regular scientific polls, because we have to pretend that Trump is winning.
00:42:41.000And so now we're going to do the other thing that we like to do, which is Trump wants to defend himself on Alicia Machado, so we're going to pretend that it's smart.
00:43:16.000Like, the whole thing the Democrats want is more clips, more clips of Republicans talking about this girl being fat and she should have lost weight and why didn't she just lose the weight.
00:43:25.000Okay, I thought, by the way, Mika Brzezinski lost her mind over all of this.
00:43:29.000She said that it's just, it's crazy that we're even talking about this.
00:43:31.000There shouldn't even be beauty contests in the first place.
00:43:37.000Because you can't actually have any weight on your body for a beauty contest because that wouldn't be beautiful.
00:43:42.000They had another surrogate last night saying, in fairness, you shouldn't put on 60 pounds if you want to be... Why are they still talking about it?
00:44:21.000Okay, so I just want to point out what she's saying.
00:44:24.000This is a politically effective attack that she's leveling right now, which is that Donald Trump thinks that all big women are not beautiful.
00:44:31.000All women who are 10 pounds overweight aren't beautiful.
00:45:34.000I think that this is, like, the least of his sexism.
00:45:36.000Donald Trump, in the 1980s, said women should be treated like bleep.
00:45:39.000Donald Trump said in the early 1990s, I think it was, he said that nothing matters in life as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of ass.
00:45:46.000Donald Trump, in this election cycle, said that Heidi Cruz was ugly.
00:45:49.000Donald Trump, in this election cycle, said that Megyn Kelly was on her period.
00:45:53.000Okay, like, there's plenty to go after Trump for.
00:45:55.000This story is ginned up, and it's a ridiculous story by the media, but Trump's people can't just let it go.
00:46:01.000They can't just say it happened 20 years ago.
00:47:40.000I feel sorry for her and after this is all over she's going to be the punchline in some joke just like so many women who have been scarred by the Clintons.
00:47:48.000From Monica Lewinsky, who's now formed her own anti-bullying foundation.
00:47:55.000I hope that she's not harmed by all of this.
00:47:59.000There's no way to spin this thing in your favor.
00:48:02.000So the best thing that you can do is just move on from it.
00:48:04.000Say he made some bad comments back in the 1990s, and then hit back with Juanita Broderick and hit back with all the terrible things Hillary has said about Monica Lewinsky and Jennifer Flowers and all of Bill's various bimbettes, right?
00:48:18.000That's not a hard thing to do, but they can't let go of it because the campaign reflects the man, and the Trump campaign reflects a very, very insecure man.
00:48:27.000Megyn Kelly's on with Kellyanne Conway.
00:48:28.000Earlier in this campaign, Kellyanne Conway, when she was on the Cruz side of the ticket, she was saying that Donald Trump was saying sexist things.
00:48:35.000Now here's Kellyanne Conway trying to make a very awkward defense to a woman that Donald Trump legitimately attacked for being a woman, Megyn Kelly.
00:48:41.000At the end of the debate, after she tried to rough him up over a couple comments he's made over 25 years or so with respect to women, he said, you know, I became prepared to say some rough stuff, but I won't do it because your family's here and your daughter's here.
00:48:56.000But it's not nice that you're running hundreds of millions of dollars in negative ads against me.
00:49:37.000You know he has repeatedly made comments about women, about their looks, about their size, their weight, even in this campaign, talking about Carly Fiorina's face, retweeting a negative picture about Heidi Cruz's face, criticizing Hillary Clinton and her look, and Kellyanne, this is an issue for him, is it not?
00:49:55.000Well, Megan, but is that the campaign issue that Hillary Clinton is running on?
00:50:32.000And even tonight, as the Trump campaign clearly wants to move beyond this, Newt Gingrich is out there bringing it up again, saying you can't gain a bunch of weight when you become Miss Universe.
00:50:41.000Stop talking about women's weight altogether.
00:51:08.000Okay, they're both women and what they're saying about how women want to hear about weight, women don't want to hear about weight.
00:51:14.000So even if it's true that Alicia Machado should not have gained 60 pounds, even if it's unfair to compare Newt Gingrich, who's not in a beauty contest, to a woman in a beauty contest, it doesn't matter.
00:51:22.000Even if she gains 60 pounds, does that mean it's okay for Trump to call her Miss Piggy or Miss Housekeeping?
00:51:29.000But, again, the Trump campaign, every slight must be fought back against, every gauntlet thrown must be picked up, and so they can't just let it go, they can't just move on to other issues or move on to attack.
00:51:40.000And this is why I think in the second debate you're going to see the same result as the first debate, because Trump has a pathological inability to let these things go.
00:51:47.000So no matter that some of this attack is unfair, there's politically stupid and there's true,
00:51:52.000And sometimes you can say something true that is also politically, politically stupid.
00:51:55.000Also, I mean, it's just amazing to me that the Trump campaign is going to stand on truth when so much of the campaign has been based on just utter nonsense.
00:52:43.000You got to do this, anywhere, any continent, Canada, Mexico, Europe, over there, Asia, South America, Africa, name a foreign leader that you respect.
00:52:52.000I guess I'm having an Aleppo moment in the former president of Mexico.
00:53:21.000First of all, a couple of quick notes here, things that I think are hilarious here.
00:53:25.000First of all, Bill Weld looks like he wants to, he's a giant man, Bill Weld.
00:53:28.000He looks like he wants to backhand Gary Johnson in the next week here.
00:53:31.000The guy sitting next to Gary Johnson, his VP candidate, if we can get an image of the two of them here, he looks like, he's like, I can't believe this.
00:54:02.000Like, the minute you start to think maybe there's a candidate who's not gonna stink, they all stink.
00:54:06.000They're all terrible, they're all ignorant, they're all stupid.
00:54:08.000I mean, honest to god, like, I think most, the problem is if you ask Trump, Trump also couldn't name a foreign leader that he admires except for Vladimir Putin.
00:54:43.000It's got some actually very negative things to say about Orthodoxy.
00:54:47.000But it's a fascinating book, and it's a glimpse into sort of the debate between modern Orthodoxy and Hasidim, the kind of what people call ultra-Orthodox.
00:54:57.000And it's really, it's a beautifully written book.
00:55:00.000Everything to prepare you for the debates, ma'am.
00:55:01.000Just try and stay focused no matter what your opponent says.
00:57:24.000I also think animals are cute and cuddly, although I don't want any in my home.
00:57:30.000So there's a video that's now going around on Facebook of animal rights activists trying to show people what it's like to be a side of beef, which doesn't even make any sense because humans aren't delicious, so far as I'm aware.
00:57:41.000But here are these animal rights activists, and watch what they do in order to demonstrate—this is in Paris—how terrible it is to be an animal.
00:58:04.000And then they're posing on the ground as though they're pieces of meat to show the pain animals go through.
00:58:12.000All the women are always in bikinis, by the way.
00:58:13.000Because it's the only way you can get people to watch these videos.
00:58:17.000If you had a bunch of, if you had, I mean, not to be, not to fat shame, but if these women were 400 pounds doing this, nobody watches this video.
00:58:24.000And then, my God, I mean, they're actually being branded with numbers.
00:58:46.000But it's just, I mean, like, why a person would brand themselves in an attempt to make me worry about a cow, like, I don't worry more about the cow, I worry now about your mental health.
00:58:57.000You're going to carry a brand around the rest of your life because you don't want to eat a cow?
00:59:01.000How many cows are you going to save by being branded?
00:59:02.000I mean, just again, the equation of human beings to animals, but I guess that's the logical end effect of a certain brand of leftist atheism that says that human beings are not more worthy of care than animals are.
00:59:15.000The same sorts of people, and Dennis Prager has a good moral test for people.
00:59:18.000He says, if you see in a river, just two things in a river, one is a person and one is your dog, which one do you save?
00:59:26.000A lot of people who are sort of leftist atheists might say I would save my dog.
00:59:30.000The mark of a good human being is I'd save the human being, because human beings are more valuable than animals.
00:59:34.000If you don't believe human beings are more valuable than animals, then there's no basis for human rights, there's no basis for human equality, there's no basis for the idea that humans ought to be treated with care.
01:00:05.000What sources would you recommend to someone who wants to learn more about the political landscape of the Middle East and the relationship between Israel and the other Middle Eastern countries?
01:00:13.000Okay, as I say, there's a book called Myths and Facts by Mitchell Bard that's a very kind of easy read.
01:00:17.000It's got little snippets on what's true and false about the Middle East.
01:00:27.000What are your thoughts on religion being taught in public schools?
01:00:30.000So, I don't think that religion ought to be taught in public schools as a general rule, but I also don't think that secular religion ought to be taught.
01:00:37.000So, their views of secular morality, the idea that all sexual behavior is created equal, the idea that schools are going to teach about men, marrying men, the idea that all forms of family are the same.
01:00:49.000Like, social issues are inherently religious issues, and just because the left says,
01:01:29.000We have the two-and-a-half-year-old, who's adorable and I need to pick up and I'm late, and the four-month-old, who is just the happiest little man who ever lived.
01:01:39.000And when it comes to breastfeeding in public, I think that women should be able to breastfeed in public.
01:01:43.000I don't think that it is appropriate for women to pull out their boob and not have a cover.
01:02:12.000The idea that the rules of modesty go out the window because it's inconvenient for you to use a feeding cover is bizarre to me.
01:02:19.000I'm not a big fan of the avert your eyes notion when it comes to the public space.
01:02:23.000When it comes to the public space, you know, everybody sort of has an equal right to the public space, and that does mean that I don't have the obligation to look at your naked body.
01:03:04.000Do you ever plan on running for political office at some point in the future?
01:03:07.000If you were running for president, I'd support you in a heartbeat.
01:03:09.000Two, would you ever consider leaving California for a freer state such as Texas?
01:03:13.000Yes, I would consider leaving California for a freer state such as Texas, and if they indeed crack down on religion in the ways that I fear they will, a lot of religious people will be looking at that.
01:03:22.000As far as running for political office at some point in the future, as I've said before, if nothing else, this election demonstrates that literally anyone in America, including my small children,
01:04:07.000If you weren't racist, you'd be in favor of using our communal power in order to help black folks.
01:04:11.000You don't want to do that, and therefore you're racist.
01:04:13.000Anytime you have the government that is doing an action that specifically helps one group of people, and somebody opposes that action, they're going to say you're against the group of people, not that you're against that use of government.
01:05:22.000Okay, I think the difference between nationalism and patriotism
01:05:39.000is that nationalism means you believe in the country.
01:05:42.000Patriotism means you believe in the founding ideals of the country or the basic idea behind the country.
01:05:47.000So if you are a nationalist, if you're a German nationalist, you believe in the German people.
01:05:51.000If you're an American nationalist, you believe in the American people.
01:05:54.000If you're an American patriot, you believe in the foundational documents and ideas of the United States, and you believe that those have eternal validity and truth.
01:06:01.000So I'm a patriot, but I'm not a nationalist.
01:06:04.000I don't believe that being a patriot, I don't believe that not being a nationalist means you're against America's national interests.
01:06:08.000I'm very much in favor of America's national interests, but those national interests have to be good, right?
01:06:14.000They have to be in line with the preservation of the ideals that stand behind the country.
01:06:19.000Hudson writes, hi Ben, love your show.
01:06:20.000My question is who is right, the Anti-Federalists or the Federalists?
01:06:23.000In what system is federal aggrandizement preventable?
01:06:26.000So the answer is they were both half right.
01:06:27.000The Federalists were correct that you need a central government that's stronger than the Articles of Confederation.
01:06:33.000The Anti-Federalists were correct that almost inevitably, as soon as you grant a centralized power to any government,
01:06:40.000That centralized power is going to grow and grow.
01:06:44.000And that's why the proper response is you should worry about what the anti-federalists had to say so you can provide a check on the federalists.
01:06:51.000Without a central government, there's anarchy.
01:06:53.000With an overpowering central government, there's tyranny.
01:06:56.000And the only time liberty is available is when you're in between.
01:06:59.000Okay, folks, that brings us to the end of the week.
01:07:01.000Thanks so much to the subscribers who are sending us mail, who are sending us questions in the middle of that.
01:07:08.000And we look forward to seeing you next week.
01:07:10.000Now, warning, I'm going to be out for Rosh Hashanah, which I believe Rosh Hashanah, if I'm not mistaken, is next Monday, Tuesday, so I'll be out hanging with God, but I will be back in the middle of next week as soon as the Jewish holidays are over.