The Ben Shapiro Show - October 06, 2016


Ep. 191 - Round II: Trump vs. Hillary, The Revenge

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Trump s victory raises two questions that have rarely come into conflict for conservatives: 1) Who will be worse for the country for the next four years? And 2) Which will be better for the conservative movement and its political vessel, the Republican Party? Both of these questions have been answered in favor of the GOP, but which one will win in 2020? Is Trump a good or bad president? Or will Hillary Clinton become the next president of the United States? And which will be the better president? ... and which will win the 2020 election? This episode is a mashup of a few of my favorite takeaways from both sides of the debate, and my own thoughts on whether or not I would have voted for either of them. I'll tell you which one I'd vote for, and why I'd never vote for either. The third way is simply to reject the idea of a binary choice, because it's simply a political choice, not a moral choice, and that's not only a choice, it's an affirmation of my own personal preference, but an affirmation that I would never even consider voting for either candidate in order to have a say in the outcome of a presidential election. Thank you for listening and supporting this episode, and I hope you do the same in the coming up next Tuesday's episode of The Weekly Standard! with your own thoughts and opinions on the election, and your thoughts on the candidates and their impact on the future of the election and the 2020 campaign. Tweet me if you have any thoughts or opinions you'd like it! Timestamps or have a question or thoughts on a particular candidate or topic you d like us to be featured in the next episode of the podcast on social media post? or any other podcast you d have us know about the election or news story you d d like to hear us respond to this episode? in a question you dm me responding to it? we'll be hearing about it in a future episode in the comments section tweet me on Insta: . or your thoughts or thoughts and your response to the election night <3 or thoughts/tweet :) Thanks for listening - Timestamp: -Timestamps: 5:00 - What do you think? 6:30 - Who's better? 7:40 - Who would you vote for Hillary or Trump? 8:15 - Is Hillary better or Trump better?

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00:00:00.000 This has been a pretty gut-wrenching election for conservatives.
00:00:02.000 It's not gut-wrenching because of Hillary Clinton. 0.99
00:00:04.000 We know how awful and evil Hillary Clinton is. 1.00
00:00:06.000 Most of us have been thinking and writing about how she's horrible for at least two decades. 0.98
00:00:11.000 It's gut-wrenching because of, of course, Donald Trump.
00:00:13.000 Trump's candidacy raises two questions that have rarely come into conflict for conservatives.
00:00:17.000 First, who will be worse for the country for the next four years?
00:00:20.000 And second, who will be worse for the conservative movement and its political vessel, the Republican Party?
00:00:25.000 Now, normally, these two questions resolve in favor of the Republican harmony, of course.
00:00:29.000 The first question, who will be worse for the country for the next four years, is, by default, the Democrat.
00:00:34.000 That's because the Democratic Party only selects candidates of the left, people who believe in never-ending government power and the full-scale destruction of individual rights in pursuit of that power.
00:00:43.000 The second question is usually obvious, too.
00:00:45.000 Republican candidates winning strengthens the reach and power of the Republican Party and, therefore, the conservative movement.
00:00:50.000 This year, the questions aren't quite so simple.
00:00:52.000 Conservatives have actually broken down
00:00:55.000 We're good.
00:01:25.000 Whether Trump or Hillary will be better for the Republican Party, they say there's no issue here either.
00:01:29.000 Trump's victory doesn't endanger the party.
00:01:31.000 Good conservatives will stand up to Trump when he strays.
00:01:34.000 If, for example, he doesn't nominate a conservative for the court, Hugh Hewitt says, Mitch McConnell will stand up to him.
00:01:39.000 So there's no downside risk to Trump leading the GOP.
00:01:42.000 These same people generally suggest that should Trump lose, the chances of another Republican ever being elected drain away as older voters die and the voting base becomes more diverse and redistricting moves forward.
00:01:52.000 Then there's the second group of conservatives.
00:01:54.000 These are the just-say-no Hillary voters, right?
00:01:57.000 These are people like Bret Stephens at the Wall Street Journal and Max Boot at the Council on Foreign Relations.
00:02:01.000 They say Trump will be worse than Hillary.
00:02:03.000 They point to his personal instability, his ignorance, his constitutional apathy toward learning, his contentious relationship with the truth.
00:02:10.000 Brett Stevens wrote weeks ago, quote, Then there's the second question for them.
00:02:13.000 Who will be worse for the Republican Party?
00:02:31.000 These Hillary voters point to Hillary's political incompetence and unpopularity. 1.00
00:02:34.000 They say she'll probably be a one-term president. 1.00
00:02:36.000 Better one term of Hillary than eight years of disastrous Trump reign. 1.00
00:02:40.000 Let him lose.
00:02:40.000 Let Republicans come back in four years with a better candidate.
00:02:44.000 Then there are those of us in the third-way group.
00:02:46.000 There are people like me who simply can't vote for either of these two.
00:02:50.000 Most of these people in this camp wake up in the morning considering whether or not to vote Trump.
00:02:54.000 We generally believe Hillary will be way more damaging to the country than Trump over the next four years, but we do fear the possibility that Trump could be catastrophic.
00:03:02.000 It's possible.
00:03:03.000 We think that Trump will likely govern as a centrist Democrat.
00:03:05.000 We suspect he'll cave on judges, that he'll broker a deal with Democrats, that he'll push us into a trade war, that he'll put forth an isolationist foreign policy.
00:03:12.000 We think he'll work to undermine the essential causes of life in Judeo-Christian ethics.
00:03:16.000 Even then, he'd probably be better than Hillary, if only by a degree.
00:03:19.000 In answer to this question, I'd of course much rather that Donald Trump won.
00:03:23.000 Then there's the second question.
00:03:24.000 Trump has spent a year convincing conservatives to give up truth itself in order to fight Hillary Clinton, to sign on to an amoral politics that disdains decency or even conservatism.
00:03:34.000 He's poisoned the well with young people, with minorities, with women. 1.00
00:03:37.000 He's turned the GOP into the party of Bush lied people died.
00:03:40.000 Republican thought leaders are carrying water for him.
00:03:43.000 The chances that they'll suddenly discover their spines when he becomes President Trump are pretty much zero.
00:03:48.000 Another eight years of this, we think, will destroy the Republican Party utterly and the conservative movement and salt the earth.
00:03:53.000 By this logic, for the sake of the conservative movement and its only tool, the Republican Party, a Hillary election would be preferable to a Trump one. 0.94
00:04:00.000 In answer to this question, I'd rather that Hillary won, if only so that we can rebound in opposition to a bad president, instead of permanently sacrificing our principles in order to collapse into support of a bad president. 1.00
00:04:11.000 Note, I said I'd rather Hillary won on this score, not that I'd vote for her. 0.80
00:04:15.000 That's something I'd never do.
00:04:16.000 I'd never vote Hillary, never even consider it, because my vote is not only a tool of political calculation, it's my personal moral and political affirmation.
00:04:24.000 I will never affirm this despicable woman and her plans to smother freedom and extend the culture of death. 1.00
00:04:29.000 Which leads us to the third way.
00:04:31.000 The third way is to simply reject the idea of a binary choice outright.
00:04:34.000 Yes, one of these people will be the next president.
00:04:36.000 But that does not recommend that we give one of them our moral imprimatur.
00:04:40.000 As I've said for months, I plan on skipping the top of the ticket.
00:04:42.000 Neither one of these candidates fulfills my basic requirements to be president.
00:04:46.000 I won't vote Trump, and I certainly will never vote Hillary Clinton.
00:04:49.000 That decision on Trump, by the way, is always subject to changing evidence.
00:04:52.000 Trump could change.
00:04:53.000 I think that's probably unlikely.
00:04:54.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:04:55.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:05:16.000 Alrighty, so tons to get to today here on The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:05:19.000 First, we have to say hello to our friends over at Tracker.
00:05:23.000 So, my wife has an unfortunate habit of losing her phone pretty much every single day and multiple times a day, and this drives me nuts. 1.00
00:05:31.000 I mean, if you've ever been married to somebody or are married to somebody who loses stuff all the time, there's nothing more irritating than you're about to get out the door and they say, oh, where's my wallet?
00:05:38.000 Oh, where are my keys?
00:05:39.000 Oh, where's my phone?
00:05:40.000 That's what Tracker is for.
00:05:42.000 We're good to go.
00:05:58.000 What do you think?
00:06:19.000 Okay, so.
00:06:35.000 We may have reached the point in this election cycle where tragedy turns to comedy.
00:06:41.000 It's possible we've reached that point.
00:06:43.000 And when I say possible, I mean we've reached that point.
00:06:45.000 So, Ted Cruz is now out there, and he's campaigning for Donald Trump.
00:06:51.000 Now, to be fair, he wasn't really campaigning for Trump.
00:06:53.000 He was in a campaign office in Texas doing the phone banking thing to show people how much he cares about the Republican Party in this election cycle, and it was caught on tape, and here was Ted Cruz
00:07:03.000 Trying to make phone calls, leaving messages for people, and you got the Trump-Pence signs in the background.
00:07:08.000 And in this video, Ted Cruz legitimately looks as though he's a small child realizing for the first time that his parents will eventually die.
00:07:18.000 Hi, this is Ted Cruz calling.
00:07:20.000 I was calling to encourage you to come out and vote on Election Day.
00:07:23.000 This election is critical for the direction of our country, and I urge you to come out and support freedom and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
00:07:31.000 You can vote by absentee ballot, and if you need help getting an application for an absentee ballot, the Republican Party of Texas can help you with that.
00:07:38.000 Or you can vote in person, but I just wanted to encourage you to come out and vote.
00:07:42.000 Thank you, and God bless you.
00:07:44.000 Okay, so there is a freeze frame that's going around right before the end.
00:07:48.000 He kind of gives the Ted Cruz sad face.
00:07:51.000 And that was going around.
00:07:52.000 The best tweet on this, I don't know who this guy is, Urban Achiever, he said, record scratch, freeze frame, let's see if we can find it.
00:07:59.000 It's really, that one, there you go.
00:08:01.000 Yep, that's the image.
00:08:02.000 That is the image that is now headlining sites across the country.
00:08:05.000 Ted Cruz realizing that life is meaningless, the universe is empty, and after you die, you turn into dirt.
00:08:11.000 And so this tweet from Urban Achiever says, record scratch, freeze frame.
00:08:14.000 Yep, that's me.
00:08:16.000 You might be wondering how I ended up here.
00:08:22.000 I'm sorry.
00:08:26.000 I know Senator Cruz personally.
00:08:27.000 Senator Cruz is a good guy.
00:08:28.000 It's funny.
00:08:30.000 I'm sorry.
00:08:30.000 We've now reached the point where this is actually funny, where everyone has been forced to pay homage to Donald Trump.
00:08:35.000 We all have to bend the knee and pay homage to Donald Trump.
00:08:38.000 What's amazing about this, so Paul Ryan is supposed to campaign with Donald Trump on Saturday in Wisconsin.
00:08:43.000 The polls, by the way, look really bad for Donald Trump lately.
00:08:46.000 The 538 has Hillary up five points nationally. 1.00
00:08:48.000 They say this is starting to look like a blowout unless he flips it on Sunday.
00:08:51.000 And we'll talk in a moment about what he has to do, if he can indeed save himself, what exactly we have to do to flip this on Sunday, what he has to do to flip this on Sunday.
00:08:59.000 But Paul Ryan is going out there, and he's going to be pushing his better way agenda, standing next to Donald Trump, which is just
00:09:06.000 Thank you.
00:09:33.000 Do you laugh?
00:09:33.000 Do you cry?
00:09:34.000 Who knows?
00:09:36.000 This is the guy, he's sitting there with Trump pen sign in the background. 0.98
00:09:39.000 This is the guy who's now sitting there phone banking on behalf of the guy who said that his wife is ugly and his dad murdered JFK. 0.94
00:09:46.000 And it's just, and it's just, I'm sorry, it's just, it's too much. 0.95
00:09:49.000 It's just too much.
00:09:50.000 Hand it to Reince Priebus, okay?
00:09:52.000 Reince Priebus has somehow dragged all of these screaming parties, kicking and screaming, onto the deck of the Titanic just before it hits the iceberg.
00:09:59.000 People are trying to escape wildly, and Ryan's like, no, get up here!
00:10:02.000 We're like, okay, okay, okay!
00:10:05.000 And that's the picture of a man realizing his impending doom is afoot.
00:10:12.000 Sorry, gang, it's just too much for me.
00:10:14.000 I've been overcome by 2016.
00:10:17.000 First the death of Harambe, and now this.
00:10:19.000 So here's the problem.
00:10:22.000 For Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz, the real reason they're doing this, of course, is not because Ryan Suprebus asked them to do so.
00:10:26.000 It's because they have an eye on 2020.
00:10:30.000 He's campaigning, by the way, for Barton for Congress.
00:10:32.000 He's not really campaigning for Trump, so it's not totally fair to Cruz, but the image is just too much.
00:10:36.000 But the fact is that
00:10:39.000 The reason that Ryan and Cruz are doing this is because they think that all of the donors are going to take revenge on them if they don't endorse Donald Trump. 0.94
00:10:45.000 This is just silly. 0.97
00:10:46.000 Honestly, it's silly. 0.92
00:10:47.000 There's one group of donors who are really in the Trump camp, the Mercer family, they're very much in the Trump camp, for example, and it's possible that they'll be so upset at people like Paul Ryan or people like Ted Cruz that they'll never back those people if they don't back Trump.
00:10:59.000 Possible.
00:11:00.000 I don't even know if that's the case, but that's the speculation anyway.
00:11:04.000 There are lots of donors all over the country.
00:11:05.000 You think in three years anyone's gonna care who voted for Donald Trump or supported him after the primaries?
00:11:10.000 Anyone?
00:11:11.000 Donald Trump didn't even support, really, John McCain in 2012.
00:11:14.000 I mean, in 2008.
00:11:15.000 He may have voted for Obama in 2008.
00:11:17.000 Donald Trump was giving Hillary Clinton money until five minutes ago, and now we're all told that if we don't jump on that Titanic,
00:11:23.000 We're good to go.
00:11:42.000 Whether you're a politician trying to look down the road, or whether you're a donor right now saying to people like Cruz, I'll never give you money.
00:11:48.000 In a year and a half, when Cruz is running for Senate again, they'll give him money.
00:11:51.000 And they would have even if he hadn't endorsed.
00:11:53.000 Because the bottom line is, Cruz is a very good senator.
00:11:55.000 So, it's just, I just have to point out that this is, it just demonstrates that in the end, everyone says Trump is anti-establishment, he's anti-establishment.
00:12:02.000 The entire establishment is backing Donald Trump.
00:12:04.000 I mean, except for the Bush family, who no one cares about at this point.
00:12:07.000 Everyone is backing Donald Trump.
00:12:09.000 And the Republican Party is four square behind him.
00:12:12.000 So, with that out of the way, let's talk a little bit of good Trump, bad Trump, because he had a busy day yesterday.
00:12:26.000 All righty, so we start with some bad Trump.
00:12:28.000 So I said earlier, here's the face.
00:12:31.000 Yeah, I know.
00:12:32.000 Otherwise I get complaints.
00:12:33.000 Yeah, there's the face for bad Trump.
00:12:34.000 Okay, so we start with bad Trump.
00:12:37.000 So Donald Trump's surrogates have been going out there saying the reason that Donald Trump didn't pay taxes or may not have paid taxes or took a billion dollar deduction is because he's a genius, because he's brilliant.
00:12:46.000 Donald Trump's tax advisor is on national TV saying what I've been saying for a while, which is
00:12:50.000 That's not a tax strategy, okay?
00:12:52.000 No one says, no one gets up on January 1st and they say, okay, year's beginning, how do I avoid taxes?
00:12:57.000 I'll lose a billion dollars.
00:12:59.000 No one does that, right?
00:13:01.000 He has an accountant, the accountant put down his losses, he realized those losses, and then that counts against his net income operating.
00:13:09.000 So his net operating loss is what they call it.
00:13:11.000 In any case, here's Trump's tax advisor explaining, no, it's not genius, it's not brilliant, it's called taxes.
00:13:17.000 Was he brilliant in the way he used the tax code?
00:13:19.000 Smart and a genius?
00:13:22.000 No, those returns were entirely created by us.
00:13:29.000 So what level of involvement did he have?
00:13:32.000 Virtually zero.
00:13:35.000 Virtually zero.
00:13:36.000 So the idea he says that he knows how to work the tax code.
00:13:40.000 Did you see any example or have any reason to believe that he does know how to work or game the tax code as much as he says he does?
00:13:51.000 Not what I dealt with.
00:13:53.000 Okay, so he's saying what's true, obviously, that he had nothing to do with his own taxes, and then he went back into the crypt.
00:14:00.000 So, that's his tax advisor.
00:14:03.000 Okay, so they overplayed their hands on this whole tax thing, but it's a silly attack in the first place.
00:14:07.000 Trump is not obligated to pay extra taxes.
00:14:09.000 Anybody who does pay extra taxes is doing it wrong.
00:14:12.000 If you want the government taking more of your money, I suggest that you just fill out that line on your tax form where it says that you can give them more money than you have to.
00:14:18.000 Okay.
00:14:19.000 We're good to go.
00:14:38.000 All right, that's how every Hillary ad now shows some sobbing person talking about how Trump said something mean one time and it's ruined their life. 0.83
00:14:45.000 That's every Hillary ad now. 1.00
00:14:46.000 We showed the one with the little girls who are sitting around apparently developing bulimia because Donald Trump said Rosie O'Donnell's fat or something, and then we've now had the one where a World War II veteran who went through POW camps in Germany is very upset that Donald Trump said bad things about POWs, which by the way is
00:15:04.000 Perfectly normal.
00:15:06.000 I assume that if I were a POW, I'd be upset too.
00:15:08.000 In fact, I'm upset and I'm not a POW. 1.00
00:15:09.000 I think that Trump's a moron and he should have apologized for a long ago. 1.00
00:15:12.000 Here's Donald Trump's response to that attack ad. 1.00
00:15:15.000 And then I saw today, I left the room and I saw a commercial where it was really a nasty commercial, totally made up about me with vets.
00:15:25.000 There is nobody that loves the vets more or respects the vets more.
00:15:29.000 They're spending hundreds of millions of dollars on false commercials and it's a disgrace.
00:15:35.000 So what we'll do, I guess we'll sue them.
00:15:36.000 Let's sue them, right?
00:15:38.000 Let's sue him.
00:15:39.000 Yeah, let's sue him, guys.
00:15:40.000 Yeah, let's sue him.
00:15:42.000 Okay, no, we should not just sue people.
00:15:45.000 We should not just sue people because we disagree with what they say.
00:15:48.000 I'm on the receiving end of such a frivolous lawsuit right now from Clockboy.
00:15:51.000 Okay, I'm not a big fan of this routine.
00:15:54.000 I don't like what he says.
00:15:55.000 Therefore, we're just gonna sue.
00:15:56.000 What do you say, folks?
00:15:57.000 Let's sue him. 1.00
00:15:58.000 What kind of garbage is this? 1.00
00:16:00.000 I mean, I hate this election cycle so much. 1.00
00:16:02.000 So, before it was tragedy is comedy with Cruz, now it's just tragedy is tragedy.
00:16:05.000 I mean, this is, we have on the one side Hillary Clinton, who wants to shut down every company that uses political speech in a way she doesn't like, and on the other side we have Donald Trump who wants to change the libel laws to be like Britain, so anytime you say anything about anybody, they can sue you. 0.61
00:16:20.000 Whether it's woeful
00:16:39.000 We're good to go.
00:16:57.000 We're good.
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00:18:00.000 Okay, final note.
00:18:01.000 So Donald Trump.
00:18:02.000 This is the end of bad Trump.
00:18:03.000 And then we'll get some good Trump.
00:18:04.000 Bad Trump.
00:18:05.000 Donald Trump is in Nevada.
00:18:07.000 It's pronounced Nevada, apparently.
00:18:09.000 I know there are some people who pronounce it Nevada, Nevada, as though they're from Great Britain and they're drinking tea.
00:18:14.000 Donald Trump decides that he's going to talk about this for some odd reason while in the state of Nevada.
00:18:21.000 Memo to all those political candidates trying to win votes in the Silver State.
00:18:25.000 Nevada.
00:18:26.000 Not Nevada.
00:18:28.000 Nevada State Archivist Guy Rocha says he's blasted politicians for messing it up.
00:18:33.000 In Nevada.
00:18:34.000 In Nevada.
00:18:34.000 In Nevada.
00:18:35.000 No disrespect to the President, but when you're here, you need to pronounce the state's name the way we do.
00:18:40.000 The President got the word.
00:18:42.000 It's great to be here in Nevada.
00:18:44.000 You didn't think I'd get it right, did you?
00:18:46.000 If you want to get it right, just ask the patrons at Heidi's Restaurant in Carson City.
00:18:51.000 Nevada.
00:18:52.000 Nevada.
00:18:53.000 Nevada.
00:18:54.000 What happens when you hear somebody call it Nevada?
00:18:57.000 They don't live here. 0.85
00:18:58.000 On the broadcast tonight from Nevada, the name of this place comes from the Spanish word Nevada, meaning snowy.
00:19:05.000 But according to the official NBC handbook of pronunciation,
00:19:09.000 Originally published during World War II.
00:19:28.000 Nevada.
00:19:28.000 And anyone who pronounces it Nevada is wrong.
00:19:30.000 And then he says, but I had a friend who made the mistake of calling it Nevada one time and you really meant Nevada.
00:19:36.000 What are you doing?
00:19:37.000 Okay, so that's bad Trump.
00:19:38.000 But there is some good Trump today.
00:19:40.000 But to see the good Trump, you have to pass.
00:19:42.000 That's the way this works.
00:19:43.000 So to see Donald Trump be good Trump, you have to go to dailywire.com.
00:19:47.000 We have some epic stuff coming up.
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00:20:05.000 We will also be, I have an epic abortion rant that I'm going to be doing sometime in here as well.
00:20:10.000 We're good.
00:20:25.000 Okay, so, we did some bad Trumps, and now it's time for a little bit of good Trump.
00:20:30.000 Yay! 0.99
00:20:30.000 There's some good Trump today. 0.99
00:20:31.000 We're always excited when there's some good Trump.
00:20:33.000 So, it starts off with Mike Pence.
00:20:36.000 Mike Pence, obviously, he's sort of the ideal VP candidate. 0.98
00:20:40.000 He kicks Tim Kaine's butt all around the stage in that vice presidential debate. 0.88
00:20:44.000 And then he comes forward and he says, but I didn't do the winning. 0.99
00:20:47.000 Donald Trump did the winning.
00:20:49.000 Which of course is not accurate.
00:20:51.000 Donald Trump had nothing to do with Mike Pence winning.
00:20:53.000 Donald Trump pulling Mike Pence's strings would have been a bizarre sight indeed.
00:20:57.000 But here's Mike Pence paying honor to Donald Trump.
00:21:00.000 Some people think I won.
00:21:07.000 But I'll leave that to others.
00:21:11.000 You know, what I can tell you is from where I sat,
00:21:14.000 Donald Trump won the debate.
00:21:18.000 Donald Trump's vision to make America great again won the debate.
00:21:25.000 Yeah, kind of tepid.
00:21:26.000 Everybody's like, yeah, you won, Mike.
00:21:27.000 You did it.
00:21:27.000 And he's like, it's Trump.
00:21:28.000 Trump won.
00:21:29.000 And they're like, wait, what?
00:21:30.000 He wasn't there.
00:21:31.000 I saw you.
00:21:31.000 Like, I saw the guy with the white hair, not the guy with the weird hair.
00:21:34.000 Like, that's OK.
00:21:35.000 Whatever.
00:21:36.000 Again, I can't get over every time.
00:21:38.000 Now, every time I see Mike Pence, I just see Eminem.
00:21:42.000 Somebody tweeted during the debate that Eminem has really aged poorly.
00:21:46.000 In any case, that is Mike Pence setting the table.
00:21:49.000 So now it's up to Trump, right?
00:21:50.000 Trump has this big debate coming up on Sunday and he has to do a couple of things in order to emerge victorious.
00:21:55.000 First, he actually has to win.
00:21:56.000 So in the last debate, he didn't have to win in order to win.
00:21:59.000 If he had just emerged unscathed, he would have won the debate.
00:22:02.000 Everybody thought Hillary was on her final footing, that she was about to collapse, no pun intended, and she was in trouble. 1.00
00:22:09.000 I mean, the polls were even, he had all the momentum, and then he went in there and acted like an idiot. 1.00
00:22:14.000 He actually has to win this one. 0.99
00:22:15.000 So it's not enough for him to appear stable.
00:22:17.000 Now he has to make Hillary appear unstable. 1.00
00:22:19.000 So he has to be aggressive without looking crazy, which is a hard line to draw.
00:22:22.000 He also has to be very, very disciplined in how he leverages his attacks.
00:22:26.000 He has to
00:22:27.000 Take her hit and then quickly flip it and hit her back. 1.00
00:22:30.000 It has to be like Pence did with Cain. 0.69
00:22:31.000 We showed a lot of that yesterday.
00:22:32.000 We said this is a tactic that Donald Trump should certainly be using.
00:22:36.000 And he also, I mean, he has to beware of a couple of traps she's going to set.
00:22:41.000 She's going to try to obviously trigger him into saying something crazy.
00:22:46.000 I would not be surprised if she sort of physically approaches him.
00:22:48.000 And then if he recoils, then she claims that she scared off the big man.
00:22:52.000 And if he doesn't, then she claims that he hulked over her.
00:22:53.000 I would not be surprised because they're walking around the stage.
00:22:56.000 Honestly, his best strategy here would be to be like Danny Kaye in one of those old 1950s comedy flicks, where he's just running around the edge of the ring.
00:23:04.000 Trump should just stay away from her as far as possible, which, I mean, any sane person would do, given her bouts with crucial diseases.
00:23:11.000 But Trump has to win.
00:23:13.000 I mean, it's all on Trump now. 0.98
00:23:14.000 And if Trump does badly on Sunday night, the sucker's over. 0.96
00:23:16.000 It's done. 0.98
00:23:17.000 It's finished.
00:23:17.000 Kaput.
00:23:19.000 We're talking about 2020 already.
00:23:21.000 But Donald Trump is setting the stage.
00:23:23.000 So, Donald Trump starts here by talking about the fact that Bill Clinton is now going up against Obamacare.
00:23:29.000 So Hillary, as I mentioned, I think this is a concerted strategy by Hillary Clinton's team.
00:23:33.000 Now what they are attempting to do, it's pretty clear, they're attempting to draw distance between Hillary and Obama.
00:23:37.000 They feel comfortable enough with their lead to figure, okay, now we're going to go for that broad middle that doesn't love Obama, and we're just going to separate just enough.
00:23:44.000 So we'll say Obama does a good job, but, yes, but,
00:23:47.000 Clinton added that it doesn't make any sense and that the insurance model doesn't work.
00:23:50.000 Now, I've been saying that for a long time.
00:24:11.000 At least he's honest, he's very late.
00:24:14.000 In the meantime, she wants to double down on Obamacare. 0.97
00:24:18.000 I'll bet he went through hell last night.
00:24:23.000 Can you imagine?
00:24:28.000 Can you imagine?
00:24:33.000 Can you imagine what he went through after making that statement? 0.76
00:24:38.000 Okay, so he's hitting them, and that's a smart tactic to hit them.
00:24:42.000 And then he says, you know, everybody keeps saying I should apologize for all the things I've said.
00:24:45.000 Obama should apologize for Obamacare.
00:24:47.000 Oh, if you say something, just apologize.
00:24:50.000 Just apologize.
00:24:52.000 I think that President Obama should apologize for Obamacare.
00:24:59.000 Okay, so good line.
00:25:00.000 President Obama should apologize for Obamacare.
00:25:02.000 Of course he should, and he won't.
00:25:03.000 It's crucial to his policy.
00:25:05.000 You know, Trump theoretically could apologize for all the terrible things he's said, but that's not in his character.
00:25:09.000 So, the stage is set for this debate.
00:25:12.000 And as I say, I think Obamacare is going to come up.
00:25:14.000 In this next debate, and you can see the left trying to figure out what's the angle here.
00:25:18.000 So you've got Hillary's team trying to separate away from Obamacare. 1.00
00:25:21.000 You've got certain members of the Obama administration trying to blame the Republicans for Obamacare.
00:25:25.000 Ezekiel Emanuel is Rahm Emanuel's brother, and Ezekiel Emanuel is a radical.
00:25:31.000 I mean, Ezekiel Emanuel has a piece titled, Why I Want to Die by 80 Years Old, or Why I Want to Die by 75.
00:25:38.000 He talks about why he wishes his dad had died, basically, when he was sick instead of them spending
00:25:44.000 Republicans bear some of the responsibility for this.
00:25:46.000 Remember, Marco Rubio eliminated some of the risk adjustment that actually buffered and helped the insurance companies in this situation.
00:26:08.000 Okay so she's, and of course Kelly is right, they're trying to figure out how do we escape the wrath of Obamacare.
00:26:13.000 Chelsea Clinton is out there hitting Obamacare. 1.00
00:26:15.000 See if you can stay awake during this clip.
00:26:30.000 So empowering Medicare to negotiate on behalf of our millions and millions and millions of Americans who are on Medicare is good for people on Medicare and those of us not on Medicare yet.
00:26:40.000 The second thing, she thinks, that we have to do is to kind of pass through tax credits real relief to help control premium costs and out-of-pocket expenses.
00:26:52.000 And the third thing she thinks that we have to do is to enable people starting at 55 to be part of Medicare.
00:26:59.000 So to lower the age for Medicare.
00:27:02.000 And to introduce a public option in every state so that there's real competition.
00:27:06.000 So we have to do all of that.
00:27:08.000 Okay, we can stop.
00:27:09.000 Oh God.
00:27:10.000 But she's saying Obamacare needs work.
00:27:12.000 It's not fully done.
00:27:14.000 Kellyanne Conway is out there hitting Bill Clinton, saying that Bill hitting Obamacare is really great for Trump.
00:27:20.000 What I think the Trump campaign is missing is that it's actually Hillary campaigning to the left and the middle at the same time. 1.00
00:27:25.000 They're trying to say Obamacare is insufficient, and also Obama does things that are wrong, which is not the stupidest strategy in the world. 0.91
00:27:30.000 Here's Kellyanne Conway.
00:27:32.000 Donald Trump, you know, in terms of health care, I think it's a huge issue that's been left on the table in these debates.
00:27:37.000 We've got now President Bill Clinton as our best surrogate.
00:27:40.000 That's a good development.
00:27:42.000 I'm thinking of having him in the spin room with us.
00:27:45.000 And this is going to be the line, is that Bill now sides with Trump, and you watch Trump will hit Hillary with that over Obamacare.
00:27:51.000 Okay.
00:27:52.000 Meanwhile, Hillary still has one major built-in advantage. 1.00
00:27:55.000 Well, she has two.
00:27:55.000 One is that she's not Trump.
00:27:57.000 Trump has the same advantage about Hillary.
00:27:59.000 But her second major built-in advantage is the media. 0.99
00:28:01.000 I mean, this is an amazing thing.
00:28:02.000 So, Saturday Night Live did a recap of the debate between Trump and Hillary Clinton, and Hillary was just over the moon about all of this.
00:28:10.000 Here's Hillary talking about SNL.
00:28:12.000 Saturday night, last Saturday.
00:28:13.000 Where were you?
00:28:15.000 Were you at home?
00:28:16.000 Were you watching Channel 4?
00:28:17.000 Did you watch Saturday Night Live?
00:28:20.000 I have to tell you, I saw it on delay, but I did see it.
00:28:26.000 And I'll tell you, when Kate McKinnon came out with the walker, I thought I was going to fall off my chair.
00:28:32.000 I mean, she makes me laugh anyway.
00:28:34.000 She is so funny, just naturally.
00:28:37.000 Yes.
00:28:37.000 Oh my gosh, she was amazing.
00:28:39.000 Now, I wish I could do, you know, the jumps, the splits, the somersault.
00:28:43.000 I've been working on it.
00:28:44.000 I bet you could.
00:28:45.000 Maybe sometime in the next 35 days.
00:28:46.000 I know you can.
00:28:47.000 You're pretty agile.
00:28:47.000 Yeah, I may pull it out and let you see it.
00:28:50.000 The next debate!
00:28:52.000 I love all these Hollywood people sitting around Hilary laughing as though she's funny and amusing.
00:28:55.000 I mean, Hilary is the least amusing person on planet Earth. 0.93
00:28:59.000 Wow.
00:29:00.000 Elizabeth Banks, who's just a pro-abortion fanatic, sitting there just laughing at Hilary. 0.90
00:29:03.000 The media love her.
00:29:05.000 They don't love her.
00:29:06.000 They're willing to push her.
00:29:07.000 Hillary, in breaking news, Hillary was on with Steve Harvey, and Steve Harvey, who is not apparently doing Family Feud at this point, if you want to see something funny, by the way, maybe we'll have to save it for another time.
00:29:17.000 Have you guys ever seen the montage of Steve Harvey reacting to people saying dirty things on Family Feud?
00:29:22.000 Never seen it?
00:29:23.000 Oh, well, we'll have to pull it.
00:29:24.000 It's hysterically funny.
00:29:25.000 I mean, it's really, really funny.
00:29:26.000 But she was on Steve Harvey's show, and I want to show you a clip of her with Steve Harvey, and then I want to explain what's happening here.
00:29:32.000 I have 12 grandchildren and I was looking for new ideas for entertaining them, keeping them up and having fun with them.
00:29:40.000 Do you have any ideas?
00:29:42.000 I'm a new grandmother and so I'm pretty experienced with babies to 16 months.
00:29:52.000 So if you've got any grandchildren in that category, I have first-hand experience.
00:29:57.000 But I think probably the best thing is, you know, I have friends who have a lot of grandkids, and what they try to do is actually run what they call grandparents camp.
00:30:08.000 Oh, that sounds great.
00:30:10.000 And they do try to get all of them together, maybe once or twice a year.
00:30:14.000 And they have games for them.
00:30:16.000 Oh, games!
00:30:17.000 No one's ever thought of that.
00:30:18.000 They do board games, they do outdoor games.
00:30:19.000 For children?
00:30:20.000 Games?
00:30:20.000 Outdoors?
00:30:21.000 Kids look forward to it because they're going to camp with their grandmother.
00:30:25.000 What you might not know is that she's been breaking ground in her personal and professional life since she was a kid.
00:30:32.000 So let's go back to when you were just a kid.
00:30:35.000 Oh boy.
00:30:36.000 No, I'm surprised.
00:30:39.000 Oh, so cute.
00:30:40.000 Oh my goodness.
00:30:42.000 You wanted to be an astronaut.
00:30:43.000 I did.
00:30:44.000 I was excited about the space program.
00:30:46.000 I was excited about President Kennedy saying we were going to send a man to the moon and bring him back.
00:30:52.000 Here's the key about this.
00:30:53.000 First of all, I mean, goodness gracious, if somebody asks you what's the best way to play with kids and your answer is, I know, board games where you go outdoors with them.
00:31:00.000 It's like, oh God.
00:31:01.000 And I like the woman there going, yes, that's brilliant.
00:31:04.000 I never thought of that.
00:31:04.000 What have you been doing with your kid the whole time?
00:31:06.000 Do you stick your kid in front of the TV and just leave?
00:31:08.000 Do you leave him in a hot car?
00:31:09.000 What do you do with the kid?
00:31:11.000 But more than that, there are now memos revealed that every question, virtually every question that Hillary Clinton was asked on the Steve Harvey special, she was pre-rehearsed.
00:31:19.000 They told her what was coming.
00:31:20.000 And yet you see her doing the, oh, I've never seen anything.
00:31:23.000 I'm so surprised.
00:31:24.000 This is new.
00:31:25.000 Surprising to me.
00:31:28.000 Yeah, the media are playing her game, obviously. 0.85
00:31:31.000 They would like to see her win. 0.75
00:31:32.000 And you can see this.
00:31:33.000 I mean, the media bias here is just insane and continuous, right?
00:31:38.000 You have Chris Cuomo, for example, very, very upset in the VP debate.
00:31:42.000 Mike Pence wasn't pressed from the left on gay rights.
00:31:44.000 Why should he be upset about that?
00:31:45.000 I thought he was an objective journalist, Chris Cuomo, right?
00:31:48.000 He actually helped Pence out in two cases.
00:31:51.000 One, he got a pass on LGBTQ last night, which is going to be a significant weakness for Mike Pence with a big chunk of the independent and center electorate, any of those people who are open-minded.
00:32:04.000 That's why people knew who Governor Mike Pence was.
00:32:06.000 He tried to pass laws unsuccessfully that were discriminatory.
00:32:10.000 Not that just Democrats thought they were, but it did not come up last night.
00:32:13.000 I agree.
00:32:13.000 I agree.
00:32:29.000 We're good to go.
00:32:45.000 Excuse me.
00:33:15.000 Sean Hannity.
00:33:15.000 Sean Hannity's been a big Trump booster ever since the primaries.
00:33:18.000 He denies he was boosting Trump during the primaries.
00:33:20.000 He clearly was.
00:33:21.000 And whether he—maybe Sean doesn't even know he was doing it, but that's clearly what was happening on any objective level.
00:33:26.000 And let me just preface this by saying I really like Sean personally.
00:33:29.000 I think Sean's a spectacularly good guy.
00:33:31.000 I think Sean's a very nice human being.
00:33:34.000 Generous to a fault.
00:33:35.000 I know too many good stories about Sean to be angry at Sean, even though I think Sean's wrong on this stuff.
00:33:40.000 But Glenn Beck reached out to Sean and he said, look, we disagree on Trump.
00:33:45.000 After the election, we're going to have to get together.
00:33:47.000 After the election, we're going to have to be friends again.
00:33:50.000 And Sean responded.
00:33:52.000 And here's how Sean responded to it.
00:33:54.000 This is clip 18.
00:33:58.000 And then you just lie about ever doing it.
00:34:01.000 And he quotes, he says, Jesus didn't teach, when they hit you, you hit back twice as hard.
00:34:06.000 Well, my martial arts kind of teaches that.
00:34:10.000 When people attack me, I'm gonna fight back.
00:34:14.000 Okay, so again, pushing this martial arts notion.
00:34:17.000 He's in a street fight, and he's going to use his kung fu skills to beat down Glenn Beck. 0.99
00:34:21.000 I mean, this kind of stuff is really dumb. 0.96
00:34:23.000 Megyn Kelly mildly tapped Sean Hannity for something very, very obvious last night. 0.98
00:34:27.000 She was pointing out that Hillary Clinton is only doing friendly media, and so is Donald Trump. 0.64
00:34:30.000 They're both trying to escape media where they will be asked tough questions.
00:34:33.000 Here was Megyn Kelly talking, and you'll see she name checks Hannity, and this starts a giant firefight. 1.00
00:34:38.000 And now they're both in their own version of a presidential protection program with, you say, they've designed her situation so she's not in a place where she feels uncomfortable or anything unexpected could come at her, which is why she sat for a half an hour with Mary J. Blige, the singer, which is why she did entertainment tonight.
00:34:54.000 Uh, this evening, which is why we just found out that when she went on the Steve Harvey show, she had every single question given to her in writing in advance, and then she feigned surprise as the questions were asked.
00:35:04.000 And Donald Trump, with all due respect to my friend at 10 o'clock, will go on Hannity, and pretty much only Hannity, and will not venture out to the unsafe spaces these days, which doesn't exactly expand the tent for either one of them.
00:35:17.000 There, that's my two cents.
00:35:19.000 Okay, and so Hannity fires back. 1.00
00:35:21.000 What she's saying there, by the way, is 100% accurate.
00:35:23.000 Of course Trump is only doing Hannity.
00:35:24.000 Of course he hasn't been with Bret Baier.
00:35:26.000 He hasn't been with Brit Hume.
00:35:27.000 He hasn't been with Megyn Kelly.
00:35:28.000 He hasn't been with Dana Perino.
00:35:29.000 He hasn't been with any of the people on Fox who might ask him a tough question.
00:35:32.000 He's been going and sending his surrogates every night to Sean Hannity.
00:35:35.000 So every night it's Sean Hannity starring Donald Trump, Mike Pence, and Laura Ingraham in Newt Gingrich.
00:35:40.000 And sometimes Sarah Huckabee.
00:35:41.000 You know, that's been the entire lineup for Sean.
00:35:43.000 But Sean was very mad about this, and so Sean tweets this out.
00:35:46.000 He tweets, Megan Kelly, you should be mad at Hillary Clinton. 0.99
00:35:49.000 Clearly you support her, and real Donald Trump did talk to you.
00:35:53.000 Okay, real Donald Trump talked to her one time, months ago, after she had to go to Trump Tower to basically, to basically make overtures to him because he had to be, because the Fox News bosses wanted her to do so.
00:36:05.000 And then, this idea that Megan Kelly supports Hillary Clinton, like,
00:36:09.000 I'm not close with Megyn Kelly.
00:36:10.000 Megyn Kelly doesn't support Hillary Clinton. 0.96
00:36:12.000 I've seen no evidence that Megyn Kelly supports Hillary Clinton, but this is Sean now doing this routine, and the routine is any mild criticism of anything associated with Donald Trump, including basic truths like Sean Hannity's show, is obviously pro-Donald.
00:36:25.000 I mean, Sean Hannity cut a commercial for Donald Trump.
00:36:27.000 He cut a commercial for Donald Trump.
00:36:29.000 He got in hot water with his bosses at Fox News for cutting a commercial for Donald Trump.
00:36:32.000 You don't get to do that and claim that you're objective at the same time.
00:36:36.000 Megyn Kelly is, of course, exactly right here, but what's happening is, and it's really, it's disturbing and devastating because I liked a lot of the people involved in these fights.
00:36:45.000 I really do.
00:36:46.000 It's sad to me.
00:36:47.000 Is that people have so welded themselves into the various corners that they've decided it's no longer important to be friends or allies with people with whom they disagree about Trump.
00:36:56.000 Instead, those people must be saboteurs, they must be enemies, they must be beaten up with kung fu style. 0.99
00:37:01.000 If you don't support everything Donald Trump does, if you say something like Donald Trump only goes on friendly media like Sean Hannity, that means that you're a Hillary supporter.
00:37:08.000 That's the routine now.
00:37:09.000 Even though you never vote for Hillary Clinton, even though you think Hillary Clinton is a terrible, terrible person, even though you have qualms about this election, even mild qualms about this election demonstrate that you're pro-Hillary.
00:37:20.000 I mean, I just got a letter from somebody who I used to be friends with, and here's the letter.
00:37:24.000 I can read it to you.
00:37:24.000 It says, So, you've determined to put everything you've got into getting Hillary elected?
00:37:28.000 If she is, I will hold you, Rich Lowry, John Podhoretz, Bill Kristol responsible for every villain put on the Supreme Court,
00:37:34.000 Every baby aborted, the entire shambles that ensues.
00:37:36.000 Let me just point out, Donald Trump was pro-choice until five minutes ago, and he's not very pro-life now.
00:37:40.000 Let me just point out, we're not getting a conservative on the Supreme Court because Mitch McConnell's in charge of that, not Donald Trump.
00:37:47.000 Finally.
00:37:48.000 I love this.
00:37:48.000 It says, every snide remark about Trump gains votes for Hillary.
00:37:51.000 My job is, if you want Donald Trump reflected at you, all you have to do is watch a tape of Donald Trump.
00:37:56.000 That's all you have to do.
00:37:57.000 But this is the fight that's now broken out.
00:38:01.000 If you do not reflect everything that Donald Trump wants you to reflect, you are therefore in Hillary's corner.
00:38:07.000 This sort of small-minded thinking destroys movement.
00:38:11.000 We can disagree on a lot of things.
00:38:13.000 We can disagree on a lot of things.
00:38:15.000 But what we can't disagree on is that the left is the enemy.
00:38:17.000 We may disagree on approach, but the idea that we're in separate camps now or that we desperately want Hillary to be president
00:38:25.000 I don't want Hillary to be president. 1.00
00:38:27.000 I don't want Trump to be president either.
00:38:28.000 I hate this entire election cycle.
00:38:30.000 But you're putting the enemy camp if you don't mirror everything Trump says.
00:38:33.000 And what they really want is not your vote, obviously, because I live in California.
00:38:36.000 They don't care about my vote.
00:38:37.000 What they really want is for me to stop criticizing Trump altogether.
00:38:40.000 That's what Sean is saying about Meghan.
00:38:41.000 And it's really, it creates an ugly future for the movement.
00:38:46.000 Okay, time for some things I like, and then things I hate, and then mailbag.
00:38:49.000 So, things I like.
00:38:52.000 I don't think I ever recommended this after I read it, but it is a very good old sci-fi book called The Canticle for Leibowitz.
00:38:58.000 I don't
00:39:18.000 A new Middle Ages is created, and how does humanity rebuild, and what does that lead to? 0.97
00:39:22.000 It's really fascinating.
00:39:24.000 It's a really interesting take on religion versus science, the contributions of religion to science in the Middle Ages, even though it really is supposed to be about the future.
00:39:32.000 Really interesting book.
00:39:33.000 I can't spell for Leibowitz. 0.91
00:39:34.000 Not the easiest read, but has some really fascinating ideas in it.
00:39:38.000 Okay, time for some things I hate.
00:39:39.000 Let's do it.
00:39:44.000 So, our good friend Mackalickamore was at the White House, and when he wasn't doing his crappy thrift shop song, which is the only song, that one isn't even that bad.
00:39:54.000 What's the love one that he sings that's awful?
00:39:57.000 Same Love.
00:39:57.000 One Love, Same Love, Chicken Love, I don't know.
00:40:00.000 That song is terrible.
00:40:01.000 But Mackalickamore is at the White House, and Mackalickamore is standing next to President Obama.
00:40:08.000 Here's a tweet from Mackalickamore.
00:40:10.000 It is, 9-11, Bush knocked down the towers.
00:40:14.000 Yeah, that guy's at the White House.
00:40:16.000 But don't worry, the real conspiracies are about Barack Obama's birth certificate.
00:40:22.000 We would never want anybody who was a birther anywhere near the White House, but we can have the guy who thinks Bush knocked down the towers on 9-11 standing next to President Obama. 0.94
00:40:29.000 Very, very nice President Obama.
00:40:31.000 I wonder why people think that we need a reality star as president.
00:40:35.000 Oh, maybe it's because this guy is a reality star.
00:40:37.000 The one we currently have is a reality TV star.
00:40:39.000 Maybe it's that.
00:40:40.000 Okay, now for the things I hate.
00:40:43.000 Now this one, this is a thing I really hate.
00:40:45.000 Here's Olivia Wilde, who's the actress most famous from being in House, and here she is talking about why she is in favor of abortion. 0.98
00:40:54.000 This is one of the more disgusting videos I've ever seen.
00:40:56.000 This election cycle, I'm thinking a lot about reproductive rights.
00:40:59.000 Everyone's right to plan when they want to have a family.
00:41:03.000 And it's on my mind because I'm literally about to have a baby.
00:41:07.000 Like, in a minute.
00:41:09.000 To be able to decide exactly how.
00:41:12.000 Okay, so, she says that she's thinking about reproductive rights one minute from having a baby. 0.98
00:41:17.000 This is about as perverse a notion as I could possibly imagine. 0.99
00:41:20.000 That as you're about to have your child, you're thinking, boy, wouldn't it be great if I could still kill this thing? 0.99
00:41:25.000 It's really imperative that I be able to still kill this thing. 0.99
00:41:27.000 You know, here I am. 0.99
00:41:28.000 Look how pregnant I am.
00:41:29.000 There's a baby in here.
00:41:30.000 This is my beautiful child. 1.00
00:41:31.000 And I was thinking, maybe I should just kill it. 1.00
00:41:35.000 You know, it's really important that women be able to kill it anytime they please. 1.00
00:41:38.000 She continues along these lines, not, of course, understanding really what she's saying on a moral level. 0.89
00:41:42.000 How and when and why and where I want to have a baby.
00:41:48.000 And I believe that is a basic human right.
00:41:51.000 I care about reproductive rights.
00:41:53.000 What do you care about?
00:41:55.000 If you care about your future, vote for it.
00:41:57.000 Okay, what I care about is not killing babies.
00:41:59.000 This is going to be mildly graphic, but this is important because I'm sick of the euphemisms.
00:42:05.000 It's not aborting a fetus.
00:42:06.000 It's not getting rid of a ball of tissue.
00:42:10.000 What I'm about to show you right now is a picture of a baby.
00:42:13.000 This is a picture of a baby that was aborted by Kermit Gosnell.
00:42:20.000 Okay?
00:42:20.000 This is, Gosnell was somebody who was not covered by the media in any way, shape, or form.
00:42:25.000 He was the most prolific serial killer probably in American history.
00:42:29.000 And this was a baby girl aborted by Kermit Gosnell.
00:42:36.000 And the only question was whether it was legal for him to kill this baby or not.
00:42:39.000 And the only question there was how old was the baby and was the abortion done inside the womb or outside the womb.
00:42:46.000 Okay, so this baby, I believe, was after the 24-week cutoff, but not by much.
00:42:51.000 So this baby is, let's see how old this baby is.
00:42:54.000 This is a case where an abortion went awry, she went to a hospital, and the baby ended up dying at the hospital.
00:43:03.000 By 24 weeks, most babies born prematurely will survive.
00:43:06.000 This is a late-term abortion. 0.99
00:43:08.000 This is what her baby looks like in the womb.
00:43:10.000 We can see that picture again.
00:43:10.000 That's what that baby looks like.
00:43:11.000 This is a less graphic picture of what an abortion looks like.
00:43:14.000 A more graphic picture of what an abortion looks like involves the snipping off of the crushing of the skull, the sucking out of the brains.
00:43:22.000 And these are fully formed children.
00:43:23.000 These are fully formed children.
00:43:24.000 I have two beautiful children. 0.98
00:43:25.000 The idea that you get to murder a kid.
00:43:28.000 Okay, no one has a right to choose that picture.
00:43:30.000 Go back to the other one.
00:43:31.000 No one has a right to choose this.
00:43:32.000 No one.
00:43:33.000 No one has a right to choose this.
00:43:34.000 You don't have a right to choose this, okay?
00:43:35.000 That's a baby. 0.96
00:43:36.000 You don't get to kill it just because it's convenient to you.
00:43:38.000 You don't have a right to say, it's my decision where and when and how to have the baby.
00:43:43.000 That's an individual human being, and if that baby were outside the womb and you stuck a knife through its chest, you'd be charged with first degree murder.
00:43:49.000 You kill it in the womb, and we call it a human right. 0.98
00:43:51.000 That's not a human right because that's a human and that human doesn't have any rights because you just decided its rights are less important than your right to your own convenience. 0.91
00:43:59.000 Despicable. 0.65
00:44:00.000 Despicable.
00:44:01.000 And so I wanna, we're now gonna play a game with the left.
00:44:03.000 Let's play a little game with the left.
00:44:05.000 The game goes like this, okay?
00:44:06.000 Show the other image.
00:44:07.000 The game goes like this. 0.99
00:44:09.000 At which point should you be able to kill this baby? 0.99
00:44:11.000 Okay, we're gonna play a game called, when should you be able to kill this baby? 0.99
00:44:14.000 Because I've been told by people like Hillary Clinton that you're able to kill this baby all the way up to the very end, right? 0.98
00:44:19.000 32 to 30 weeks. 0.82
00:44:21.000 Right?
00:44:21.000 And that's when the baby is fully formed.
00:44:23.000 It can be born alive.
00:44:24.000 It is a fully formed human being.
00:44:26.000 I've watched two of them come out of my wife.
00:44:28.000 These are human beings.
00:44:29.000 These are not balls of tissue.
00:44:30.000 These are not clusters of cells.
00:44:31.000 And I'm sick of being told that it's just an abortion.
00:44:33.000 I don't like the euphemisms.
00:44:35.000 It's not a termination of a pregnancy.
00:44:36.000 It's a termination of a human life.
00:44:38.000 Okay?
00:44:38.000 It's a murder of a human being when you're talking about these babies and this idea that you get to choose that.
00:44:44.000 Look, you got to choose a lot of things in life.
00:44:45.000 You don't get to choose another human being's death.
00:44:47.000 That's not something you get to choose. 0.70
00:44:49.000 So, when is it okay to kill this? 0.98
00:44:51.000 When is it okay to kill this? 0.99
00:44:51.000 Is it okay to kill this thing at week 14, when the heart is pumping several quarts of blood through the body every day? 0.99
00:44:57.000 How about week 15, when the baby has an adult's taste buds?
00:45:01.000 How about month 4, when the bone marrow is beginning to form?
00:45:04.000 How about that?
00:45:04.000 How about weeks 9 and 10, when the baby's teeth are already beginning to form?
00:45:09.000 It's fingernails are already beginning to develop.
00:45:10.000 We're talking about two months old, right?
00:45:12.000 The baby can turn the head and frown.
00:45:14.000 The baby can hiccup. 0.98
00:45:16.000 Is that okay to kill? 0.91
00:45:17.000 How about week four? 0.83
00:45:18.000 By the end of week four, the kid is already 10,000 times larger than the fertilized eggs was.
00:45:24.000 There's already the beginnings of eyes and legs and hands.
00:45:27.000 There are already brain waves detectable.
00:45:29.000 Mouth and lips are present.
00:45:30.000 Fingernails are forming.
00:45:32.000 How about week three?
00:45:34.000 By the end of the third week, the kid's backbone and spinal column and nervous system are forming.
00:45:38.000 The liver and kidneys and intestines are beginning to take shape.
00:45:42.000 How about day 22?
00:45:43.000 The heart's already beating with the child's blood, which may be of a different blood type than the mother.
00:45:48.000 So where in here exactly do you think it's okay to murder that kid because you have a personal convenience issue?
00:45:54.000 Where do you think that you're right?
00:45:55.000 And I love the glowing way she presents this.
00:45:57.000 Here I am.
00:45:57.000 I can't be a bad woman because I'm pregnant.
00:45:59.000 I can't hate babies.
00:46:00.000 I mean, here I am.
00:46:01.000 I'm pregnant. 0.95
00:46:01.000 Well, if you don't hate babies, or if you're not interested in killing them, then why are you in favor of people being allowed to kill them? 0.95
00:46:07.000 It's not a matter of a woman's right to choose. 1.00
00:46:09.000 A slave owner didn't get to choose to hold slaves. 0.91
00:46:11.000 Nazis didn't get to decide which Jews got to live.
00:46:14.000 And don't give me the, it's legal, therefore it's okay.
00:46:17.000 Lots of things were legal.
00:46:18.000 Lots of things in human history have been legal that were totally evil.
00:46:22.000 It is evil to suggest, as Hillary Clinton does, that the minute before a baby is born, you should be able to drag it by the feet, out of the mother, except for the head, stick a scissors in there, ram it into the baby's skull, rip the skull open, suck the brains out, crushing it, and then pull it out.
00:46:37.000 Hillary believes that that's something you should be allowed to do.
00:46:40.000 When I talk about stuff I hate, this is a grave sin.
00:46:42.000 It's a blot on the American Republic.
00:46:45.000 It's a blot on the morality of the American people that we treat the killing of literally the most innocent among us.
00:46:53.000 We treat the killing of these human beings 1.00
00:46:58.000 As nothing more than just an issue of convenience and choice and all the rest of it.
00:47:02.000 It's just no more euphemisms, no more euphemisms.
00:47:05.000 And I wish to God that Mike Pence would have said that instead of citing to the Bible, okay?
00:47:09.000 I haven't cited the Bible one time because I don't think that the Bible, I think the Bible is right, but I don't think the Bible is the important textbook here.
00:47:15.000 I think what's important here is the science.
00:47:17.000 And I think you're talking about the creation of a unique human life on day one, and you can see it, and you can see the growth, and if you're willing to point out to me where it is that this becomes a human as opposed to a ball of tissue, then let's hear it.
00:47:30.000 Let's hear it.
00:47:30.000 I've gotten tweets, by the way, I tweeted this out earlier, and somebody said, well, the brain waves only start at week 20.
00:47:35.000 So how about that?
00:47:36.000 You know, do you think that people who are brain dead are alive?
00:47:39.000 Well, people who are brain-dead don't turn into not brain-dead three weeks later.
00:47:44.000 Would you kill somebody in a coma because they're brain-dead, but you know they're not going to be brain-dead in four weeks, in ten weeks?
00:47:49.000 Would you do that? 0.93
00:47:50.000 Would you pull the plug on them knowing, for a full-on fact, that if you just wait a few weeks, that person's going to be fully functional again?
00:47:55.000 Would you do that?
00:47:57.000 And it's just, it's truly incredible to me the way that we can blind ourselves to this.
00:48:02.000 I remember when I was at the 2012 DNC, and I went to, you know, it was in Charlotte, and I walked past an exhibit.
00:48:10.000 And it was a picture, it was the anti-abortion crowd, the pro-life crowd.
00:48:14.000 And they were out there with these pictures of aborted babies.
00:48:16.000 And I walked past and I thought what most people from big cities thought.
00:48:19.000 I thought, wow, how gauche.
00:48:21.000 How gauche.
00:48:21.000 I mean, those are ugly pictures.
00:48:22.000 Should I really have to look at that in the public square?
00:48:24.000 That's really ugly.
00:48:25.000 And then I realized that that's probably how people treated pictures of slavery back in the 1850s.
00:48:30.000 That's probably how people treated pictures of the Holocaust back in the 1940s.
00:48:34.000 The bottom line is, if it's that ugly, maybe you should do something about it instead of whining about how ugly it is.
00:48:39.000 And it's not a matter of personal choice.
00:48:41.000 Okay?
00:48:42.000 I have a stake in whether my neighbor gets murdered.
00:48:44.000 And I have a stake in whether my neighbor's baby gets murdered, too.
00:48:47.000 Okay, time for, on that light note, it's time for the mailbag.
00:48:52.000 So let's do a little bit of mailbag.
00:48:54.000 And you, right now, if you're watching this online, if you're watching this, then you can send us notes and we will answer your questions.
00:49:03.000 Alrighty.
00:49:04.000 Alan, I'm currently in eighth grade.
00:49:05.000 My history teacher's extremely liberal.
00:49:07.000 She likes to talk about the wage gap, racist police, how America was founded by immigrants, and a lot more.
00:49:12.000 I wouldn't care, but she's teaching this to other students who don't know much and probably believe what she teaches.
00:49:16.000 I wanted to know what you think I should do.
00:49:18.000 Okay, number one answer, don't get a bad grade just to show up the teacher.
00:49:21.000 Talk to your fellow students outside class if they're open to it.
00:49:25.000 Talk to your teacher about the possibility of bringing in somebody with a different viewpoint to speak to the class.
00:49:32.000 You know, go ahead and see if you can present an alternative without your teacher getting mad, but don't compromise your own grades because you shouldn't be put in a position where your power is sort of in their hands.
00:49:44.000 Casey writes, Ben, if we look at conservatism as the Cincinnati Zoo and Harambe as the Republican Party,
00:49:50.000 What do we do when some juvenile mouth breather falls in the cage? 1.00
00:49:54.000 Do we A. Watch from a distance and see how it plays out?
00:49:56.000 B. Somehow try to extract the intruder before things get worse for Harambe's sake?
00:50:00.000 C. Realize it's gone too far, take Harambe out, and plan on building a new exhibit with Cecil the sea lion in four years.
00:50:07.000 Well, I'm not sure that I buy the analogy, but I appreciate the creativity, and I always appreciate a good reference to Harambe.
00:50:13.000 I don't have a good answer to that really quite awful analogy.
00:50:16.000 Zachary writes, Ben, I really appreciate your deconstructing the culture segment.
00:50:20.000 I despise pop music not only for its poor musical quality, but also the terrible lyrics.
00:50:24.000 My music of choice is usually metal.
00:50:26.000 Lamb of God, Korn, Rob Zombie, etc.
00:50:29.000 Okay, I can't take this supremely seriously when you say that you despise pop music for its poor musical quality and then you name corn as your preferred alternative.
00:50:39.000 That being said, I'd like to see you deconstruct something from the metal top 40.
00:50:42.000 I know metal music has its own flaws and would like to see what you can point out.
00:50:45.000 Metal horns for Harambe.
00:50:47.000 I know that Harambe has become a big thing with my listeners.
00:50:49.000 Okay, so I will do that.
00:50:50.000 I will take a look at the metal selection.
00:50:53.000 I have to say that if any music could
00:50:57.000 reflect my mood on most days when I do the podcast.
00:50:59.000 It would probably be some sort of death metal, right guys?
00:51:01.000 I mean, let's be real.
00:51:02.000 Matthew writes, Hey Ben, so my question is, why is the idea of socialism so popular among millennials?
00:51:08.000 As a current college student, I get the appeal of free tuition, but then again, what would that mean for a degree?
00:51:13.000 If everyone is able to get a higher education, what's the reason to get a degree?
00:51:16.000 Love the show.
00:51:17.000 Thanks for your time.
00:51:18.000 It's my birthday today.
00:51:19.000 I bought a subscription to the Daily Wire as a birthday gift to me.
00:51:21.000 Well done, Matthew.
00:51:23.000 You've really rewarded yourself in a magical way. 0.99
00:51:25.000 Okay, so, the answer is, I mean, you mentioned some of the rationales why the idea of free college tuition is idiotic. 0.95
00:51:31.000 The reason socialism is popular among millennials is because millennials are looking for un-based moral superiority. 0.93
00:51:37.000 They're looking for an unearned sense of moral superiority.
00:51:41.000 Socialism provides that to you because everybody gets to be a victim.
00:51:44.000 You get to sympathize with everybody who feels like a victim, and then you get to say, I'm fairer than you to everybody else.
00:51:51.000 Politics, for a lot of people,
00:51:54.000 This is about the game of unearned moral superiority.
00:51:56.000 Socialism provides that in spades, because you get to go around saying to everybody, well, I'm not a selfish person.
00:52:01.000 I think all income should be redistributed.
00:52:02.000 And when you say, well, why don't you give away your own income?
00:52:04.000 Well, no, I mean, as a society, we should share.
00:52:07.000 Not that I should give away my wealth.
00:52:08.000 As a society, we should share.
00:52:10.000 Millennials believe that fairness of outcome is imperative, and therefore, they're for socialism.
00:52:16.000 This is what they neglect to mention is that fairness of outcome can only be achieved by unfairness of means.
00:52:21.000 Fairness of outcome can only be achieved by unfairness of means, and unfairness of means is evil.
00:52:26.000 Jamie writes, Hi Ben.
00:52:27.000 My husband and I are huge fans.
00:52:28.000 I look forward to your morning show and your podcast every day.
00:52:31.000 I also enjoy binge watching many of your YouTube videos.
00:52:33.000 You have mentioned multiple times the problem plaguing poor inner-city black communities is out-of-wedlock births, and this is a problem of culture, not race. 0.99
00:52:40.000 My question to you is, what exactly are poor black women or any poor woman supposed to do when pretty much most of what they have to choose from are pieces of crap? 1.00
00:52:47.000 Your advice is do not have sex or children with pieces of crap. 1.00
00:52:50.000 But what if because of your socioeconomic class, you are surrounded by poor male specimens? 1.00
00:52:54.000 Plus, this is gradually becoming a problem for all women as gentlemen become an endangered species and I watch one after the other of my girlfriends who are doctors end up married, unmarried, and alone. 0.98
00:53:04.000 You know, I'm not going to say that I think that poor women suffer from the problem of being surrounded by more males who are crappy. 0.99
00:53:11.000 I think that if a woman holds out, then she's going to get a guy who's not a piece of crap. 0.99
00:53:16.000 I would also suggest that if you live in an area where a lot of people are crap, you move out of the area. 0.98
00:53:20.000 Right, and I know that that sounds harsh to people because, you know, this is the area where I grew up, but legitimately, most of the people who ended up in the United States over the course of time are people who came from another country to be here because they wanted a better life.
00:53:32.000 It seems to me that moving from Compton to North Hollywood, for example, is a lot easier than moving from Denmark to New Amsterdam.
00:53:40.000 And so the idea that you should move out of an area that's bad for you because you want to get a job and be around people who have better social standards, that doesn't seem too out of range for me.
00:53:50.000 Cass is asking live, why does the left hate the west so much?
00:53:54.000 I never understood the self-loathing.
00:53:55.000 The answer is, as I say, the left believes in fairness of outcome.
00:54:00.000 They believe in fairness of outcomes.
00:54:01.000 They look at the west.
00:54:02.000 The west is super successful and rich.
00:54:04.000 They look at the rest of the world and they say, these people are really poor.
00:54:09.000 Excuse me.
00:54:11.000 They say these people are really poor.
00:54:12.000 Therefore, the West must have done something to exploit and hurt all of these poor countries.
00:54:17.000 Therefore, the West must be bad.
00:54:18.000 That's why they hate the West.
00:54:20.000 They reason backwards.
00:54:21.000 They start from the end.
00:54:21.000 They say it's unequal.
00:54:23.000 Therefore, the people who won are the people who are bad.
00:54:25.000 That's their logic, even though it's really deeply flawed.
00:54:29.000 Angeli writes, Ben, your discussion with Andrew on Judaism and Christianity prompted me to ask this.
00:54:33.000 You believe Judeo-Christian civilization is at the root of what is best in our society. 0.84
00:54:36.000 The best Christians would admit that civilization could not have existed without you.
00:54:40.000 Well, I mean, without my people, I assume. 0.86
00:54:42.000 I wasn't around like 3,000 years ago.
00:54:44.000 Why do you think that civilization would be without us?
00:54:46.000 What if all the people who are now Christians had become Jews instead? 0.99
00:54:48.000 Do you think the same civilization would have resulted?
00:54:51.000 Have you ever thought about this?
00:54:52.000 I haven't, which is why I'm curious to hear yours.
00:54:53.000 I haven't actually thought about that.
00:54:55.000 You know, I think that the answer that I would give is the same answer that Maimonides gives, which is basically that Christianity and Islam have been a way of spreading monotheism to the entire world, and maybe monotheism couldn't be spread 0.95
00:55:09.000 Through conversion to Judaism, because Judaism is a very works-based religion.
00:55:13.000 I mean, we have to do a lot of stuff that isn't fun.
00:55:15.000 Yesterday, I was fasting.
00:55:16.000 I did the entire show not eating, drinking.
00:55:17.000 I did that the entire day.
00:55:18.000 It was a fast day.
00:55:19.000 Next week, I have to do it again.
00:55:20.000 It's a very demanding religion, Judaism. 1.00
00:55:23.000 And Christianity is less demanding in terms of works.
00:55:25.000 It's more demanding in terms of grace.
00:55:27.000 So...
00:55:28.000 You know, it's possible that Christianity has done a—I mean, not possible, it has—done a better job of outreach on a monotheistic basis, on the basis of the Bible, including the Old Testament, than Judaism has done.
00:55:39.000 Even though I disagree with a lot of Christianity, and I disagree with the historical veracity of the New Testament, and I disagree about Jesus.
00:55:48.000 I still can recognize what Christianity has done for the world, and what Christianity has done for the world is obviously immense.
00:55:54.000 Well, I mean, I used to think that this used to be a phenomenon of the left.
00:55:58.000 Unfortunately, in this election cycle, what's been demonstrated to me
00:56:11.000 Thank you.
00:56:34.000 Okay, that brings us to the end of the week.
00:56:35.000 Sunday night, big debate.
00:56:36.000 Make sure that you're at dailywire.com.
00:56:38.000 I, personally, will be live blogging that monstrosity, so make sure that you at least justify my time by being there and watching me suffer, because, after all, I suffer for your sins, apparently, when it comes to the debates.
00:56:49.000 But, you know, we'll all be there together.
00:56:51.000 We'll suffer through this thing.
00:56:52.000 We're, what, 30 days from the election?
00:56:54.000 Almost there, almost there.
00:56:56.000 Alrighty, guys, getting close.
00:56:57.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:56:58.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.