The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 193 - Cage Match: Trump Hammers Hillary

00:00:00.000 So, it's the nightmare scenario.

00:00:02.000 According to a new NBC-Wall Street Journal poll, Donald Trump is now collapsing.

00:00:06.000 He's down 52% to 38% to Hillary Clinton in a two-way race.

00:00:11.000 He's down 46% to 35% in a four-way race.

00:00:14.000 In the generic congressional ballot, Democrats now outstrip Republicans by 49 to 42.

00:00:20.000 Trump is not merely losing, he's dragging the entire GOP down with him, just in time to hand complete power to Hillary Clinton and her Democratic allies in the House and Senate.

00:00:28.000 So well done, everyone.

00:00:29.000 This is what happens when you nominate a combination of Todd Akin and Mark Foley to the presidency.

00:00:34.000 In late August 2012, if you recall, Missouri Senator Todd Akin made comments on a local radio show about rape and abortion.

00:00:42.000 The comments made him a national laughingstock.

00:00:44.000 Republicans across the nation immediately cut ties.

00:00:46.000 They sacrificed a Senate seat in an attempt to prevent the electoral infection from spreading.

00:00:50.000 In the end, Republicans lost just two seats in the Senate and eight seats in the House.

00:00:54.000 In September 2006, Representative Mark Foley of Florida was caught in a scandal involving sexual liaisons with congressional pages.

00:01:01.000 Republicans again attempted to distance themselves, this time far too late.

00:01:04.000 Republicans lost 30 seats in the House and control of the chamber to Nancy Pelosi and her Radical Democrats.

00:01:09.000 Now,

00:01:10.000 Imagine if Todd Akin or Mark Foley had been running for president.

00:01:13.000 And imagine if the Republicans had then insisted on tying themselves to those candidates.

00:01:17.000 That's right now.

00:01:19.000 Donald Trump knows this election is over.

00:01:21.000 Everybody knows this election is over except for a few demented people over at Breitbart News.

00:01:25.000 But they're clinging to an alternative reality anyway.

00:01:27.000 Sorry to be depressing, folks.

00:01:28.000 This is the truth.

00:01:29.000 It's true.

00:01:47.000 Hillary Clinton.

00:01:48.000 That's why Paul Ryan got booed after refusing to invite Donald Trump to an event on Saturday, the day after news of the blank tape broke.

00:01:57.000 Here's Robert Costa of the Washington Post reporting just that.

00:02:06.000 So, the hemorrhaging of Republicans away from Trump has stopped for the moment, even if some like Speaker of the House Paul Ryan are gradually attempting to edge away quietly like Homer Simpson into a bush.

00:02:15.000 In theory, that's fine.

00:02:17.000 In practice, it's going to be the equivalent of a Viking funeral.

00:02:19.000 The Viking dies, the community insists, his widow climb on the funeral pyre with him.

00:02:24.000 Trump's pride demands that if his candidacy is dead, everyone shall burn with him like the heathen kings of old. 0.54

00:02:29.000 And burn they shall.

00:02:30.000 Trump informed his voters on Sunday that anyone who wouldn't support him should be punished at the polls.

00:02:35.000 Here's what Robert Costa tweeted, quote,

00:02:51.000 Here's the thing.

00:02:52.000 Trump isn't a Republican.

00:02:53.000 He's not a conservative.

00:02:54.000 He probably doesn't think things will be that bad if Hillary and the Democrats are elected, which is why he gave money to them for 30 years.

00:02:59.000 That's the sick joke of this election cycle.

00:03:01.000 His supporters think it's the end of the world if Hillary and the Democrats take over, and they're pretty much close to right.

00:03:06.000 But Trump is perfectly happy to watch Republicans and conservatives go down in fiery ruin just so he can feel good about the size of his hands.

00:03:13.000 And Hillary knows it. 0.93

00:03:14.000 For months, she's tried to separate Trump off from normal Republicans.

00:03:17.000 She thought she could draw Republicans to her side if she created an option to escape Trump. 0.97

00:03:21.000 Now that she knows she's gonna win big, she's going in for the kill. 0.98

00:03:24.000 She's linking all Republicans to Trump, hoping to win the House. 0.93

00:03:27.000 Here's what she just tweeted this morning.

00:03:28.000 Quote, Ryan is still endorsing Trump.

00:03:30.000 She's trying to tie them together. 1.00

00:03:32.000 This is a full-scale disaster.

00:03:33.000 Hillary's looking to exploit it, and Republicans are too short-sighted to stop it. 1.00

00:03:37.000 But it's not just about losing the presidency and losing the Senate and losing the House.

00:03:41.000 Trump has done something else, too.

00:03:42.000 By forcing Republicans to lash themselves to the Trumpian Titanic as it takes on water, he's forced them to destroy their own arguments and their own cause.

00:03:50.000 Republicans have spent decades fighting the leftist false narrative of a broad American war on women, and now they're spending all their time writing off talk of sexual assault as locker room talk.

00:03:59.000 Republicans have spent decades telling voters character matters.

00:04:02.000 And then when their candidate brags about attempting to F married women, they shrug it off by citing King David because apparently they don't know the Bible all that well.

00:04:09.000 Republicans have said they're not racist and neither is America, which is true.

00:04:12.000 And then they brush off the guy who went easy on the KKK and used textbook racism, in the words of Paul Ryan, against a judge of Mexican descent. 0.94

00:04:18.000 They're giving Democrats all the fodder they'll need for decades more of crap and false arguments about the evils of Republicans and the American people. 0.97

00:04:26.000 Let's be clear. 0.95

00:04:27.000 None of this means Republicans can vote for Trump.

00:04:30.000 You can.

00:04:31.000 And maybe you should.

00:04:32.000 As I've said thousands of times at this point, it's possible to condemn in the strongest terms all of Trump's evils and still make a lesser of two evils choice.

00:04:39.000 A lot of my friends are doing that.

00:04:40.000 But many Republican leaders aren't capable of the cognitive dissonance.

00:04:44.000 So instead, they make excuses for Trump, and they make light of his disgusting rhetoric and action, and they lose women, and they lose minorities, and they lose an entire generation of young voters in the process, not to mention their souls.

00:04:56.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:04:57.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:05:13.000 Okay, sorry for the depressing lead there, folks, but I just decided I would get the ugly stuff out of the way.

00:05:18.000 So we'll talk about the debate last night, which went better for Trump than was expected.

00:05:21.000 Of course, the expectations were that he would spontaneously combust, burst into a ball of flame, hurl himself on Hillary Clinton, and then they would both burn down to cinder.

00:05:28.000 But since that didn't happen, he won.

00:05:30.000 So we'll talk about that, and we'll talk about, you know, the fallout from that, the fallout for the Republican Party, because there's just a lot happened over the weekend.

00:05:36.000 We did a Friday show, but it was too early in the day, so we missed all of the Trump 0.98

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00:07:13.000 Since we last saw one another, lots of things happened.

00:07:16.000 Lots of things happened, people.

00:07:17.000 And not all of these things were good.

00:07:19.000 And most of these things were very, very bad for the Republican Party.

00:07:22.000 So, we take our story back to last Friday.

00:07:25.000 We begin last Friday.

00:07:27.000 I finish the show.

00:07:28.000 I say Donald Trump has a shot at restoring some momentum to his campaign.

00:07:33.000 Mike Pence has stopped the slide in the VP debate.

00:07:36.000 And Donald Trump finally has a shot to get back on track.

00:07:40.000 And then this tape comes out.

00:07:42.000 So the Washington Post breaks this tape.

00:07:44.000 It's a tape of Billy Bush.

00:07:46.000 The only Bush who mattered in this election cycle turns out to have been Billy.

00:07:49.000 And Billy Bush is on the bus with Donald Trump and they're talking about sex and such.

00:07:56.000 And here is Donald Trump being Donald Trump.

00:07:59.000 You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful women. 1.00

00:08:01.000 I just start kissing them.

00:08:02.000 It's like a magnet.

00:08:03.000 I just kiss them.

00:08:05.000 I don't need to wait.

00:08:05.000 And when you're a star, they let you do it.

00:08:07.000 You can do anything.

00:08:08.000 Whatever you want. 0.99

00:08:09.000 Grab them by the d***. 0.99

00:08:11.000 I can do anything. 0.99

00:08:14.000 And Billy Bush giving the fake, awkward laugh because he knows that Donald Trump's a celebrity and he's supposed to treat him nicely.

00:08:19.000 Okay, so, Billy Bush, by the way, has basically been fired over this.

00:08:22.000 Donald Trump says that, and this, of course, goes viral because tape is everything in the modern society.

00:08:27.000 So, look, number one, if you didn't know who Trump was,

00:08:32.000 I don't know what you've been watching for the last year.

00:08:33.000 I don't know what you've been reading about him for the last year.

00:08:35.000 Honest to goodness.

00:08:36.000 I mean, like, this is who Trump is, and he's always said this kind of stuff.

00:08:38.000 I mean, in the same tape, he brags about trying to F a married woman, and that's been completely overlooked because of this particular comment.

00:08:45.000 And Trump, of course, says that this is just locker room talk.

00:08:47.000 So I want to break this down for a second, okay? 0.91

00:08:49.000 Yes, it turns out that men talk dirty about women a lot.

00:08:53.000 It turns out that we think women are sexual creatures, and we say things about their body parts, and welcome to the real world. 1.00

00:08:59.000 By the way, I'm under the impression, according to Sex and the City, women do the same thing about men. 0.93

00:09:03.000 So the idea that men and women don't talk about each other sexually is just silly talk.

00:09:08.000 That said, there's actual bad stuff on this tape, okay? 0.71

00:09:10.000 When you talk about wanting to eff married women, 0.98

00:09:13.000 I don't want to hear anymore about how Donald Trump has repented and he's just like King David and he's just like Abraham and he's just like all of the founders of religion, that he's an adulterous cretin who's never apologized for anything and brags about having sex with married women, but he's just like all of the great men in the Bible. 0.99

00:09:27.000 Shut up. 0.99

00:09:28.000 Okay? 1.00

00:09:28.000 It's stupid. 1.00

00:09:28.000 It's illiterate. 1.00

00:09:29.000 You're a moron. 1.00

00:09:30.000 Okay? 1.00

00:09:30.000 It's not true. 1.00

00:09:31.000 Second thing.

00:09:32.000 When he says—so people brush stuff off.

00:09:34.000 It's just talk.

00:09:34.000 Okay?

00:09:35.000 It's just talk.

00:09:36.000 When he says, I just go up to women and I just kiss them and they don't do anything about it because I'm famous, that is called sexual assault.

00:09:44.000 It is, I'm sorry.

00:09:45.000 As someone who respects women, as someone who has a wife and three sisters and a daughter and a mother, as somebody who actually believes that women are to be treasured in terms of how you behave toward them, as someone who has never ever attempted to

00:09:58.000 We're good.

00:10:18.000 He really has attempted to kiss women without their permission, and he just does it randomly.

00:10:21.000 I mean, the New York Times reported this back in May.

00:10:23.000 They said that he used to go in the Miss Universe dressing rooms and just walk up to women and kiss them on the lips without any sort of forewarning, without even knowing them, just walk up to them.

00:10:32.000 And the reason that Billy Bush is laughing, by the way, is not because Billy Bush is a uniquely bad guy.

00:10:36.000 It's because everyone in Hollywood acts like this is OK.

00:10:38.000 Everyone in Hollywood acts like this.

00:10:39.000 As somebody who lives in L.A., grew up in L.A., knows a lot of Hollywood people, when you say—when Hollywood and the media and the Democrats complain about Trump doing this, let's just be clear.

00:10:49.000 Hollywood and the media and the Democrats all do this, okay?

00:10:51.000 NBC knew he did all this crap for 20 years, and they put him on The Apprentice and left him there and talked him up as a great god-king genius.

00:10:58.000 I mean, this tape was lying around the archives at Access Hollywood, and nobody bothered to turn that over to management? 0.82

00:11:03.000 I mean, like, because this is common.

00:11:05.000 Because in Hollywood, this sort of thing is common.

00:11:07.000 Now, that said, it is not justifiable, and it cannot be justified, okay?

00:11:10.000 When you say that you sexually assault women, that can't be, that can't be justified.

00:11:15.000 Now, here is the problem.

00:11:16.000 You can say, you still can say, I'll vote for Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton.

00:11:20.000 You can!

00:11:21.000 You can still say that, right?

00:11:23.000 But if you say that, you should also say some of the stuff that he's saying is bad.

00:11:28.000 It's bad to say these things.

00:11:29.000 It's bad to do these things.

00:11:31.000 Instead, because people can't handle the cognitive dissonance at all, instead what they do is they pretend it's okay.

00:11:36.000 It's just locker room banter.

00:11:38.000 Oh, it's just dirty talk.

00:11:39.000 What's the big deal?

00:11:39.000 Why is this a big deal?

00:11:41.000 Understand, when you do that, you're handing the Democrats every single thing they want in life.

00:11:45.000 All they want in life is for you to write off talk about sexual assault as no big deal while they're still trying to claim there's a culture of rape and war on women.

00:11:52.000 That's all they want politically. 0.86

00:11:53.000 That's all they want.

00:11:55.000 And so Trump is dragging down the party with him.

00:11:57.000 So, this tape comes out, and a bunch of Republicans do what always happens when something like this comes out.

00:12:02.000 They run for the hills, right?

00:12:03.000 When Todd Akin made comments, I mentioned before, about abortion and rape back in 2012, everybody ran for the hills.

00:12:09.000 Here's a list of Republicans who immediately

00:12:12.000 Well, here are the ones who never endorsed or supported him, but called on him to step down.

00:12:16.000 Hugh Hewitt, who has been a big Trump booster.

00:12:18.000 Barbara Comstock from Virginia.

00:12:19.000 These are all senators and representatives.

00:12:20.000 Charlie Dent from Pennsylvania.

00:12:22.000 Jeff Flake from Arizona.

00:12:22.000 Will Hurd, Texas.

00:12:23.000 John Kasich, Ohio.

00:12:24.000 John Katko, New York.

00:12:25.000 Steve Knight, California.

00:12:26.000 Mike Lee, Utah.

00:12:27.000 Representative Mia Love, Utah.

00:12:29.000 Governor Susana Martinez, New Mexico.

00:12:30.000 Senator Lisa Murkowski, Alaska. 0.93

00:12:32.000 Governor Brian Sandoval, Nevada.

00:12:34.000 Representative Fred Upton, Michigan.

00:12:35.000 Here are the ones who rescinded their endorsements, okay?

00:12:38.000 Those are the ones who hadn't endorsed ever.

00:12:39.000 Here are the ones who rescinded.

00:12:40.000 Senator Kelly Ayotte, New Hampshire.

00:12:41.000 Governor Robert Bentley, Alabama.

00:12:43.000 Representative Bradley Byrne, Alabama.

00:12:45.000 Senator Shelley Moore Capito, West Virginia.

00:12:47.000 Representative Jason Chase Fitz of Utah.

00:12:49.000 Mike Crapo, Senator from Idaho.

00:12:50.000 Governor Dennis Dalgaard of South Dakota.

00:12:52.000 Representative Rodney Davis, Illinois.

00:12:53.000 Senator Deb Fischer of Nebraska.

00:12:56.000 Representative Jeff Fortenberry of Nebraska.

00:12:57.000 Cory Gardner of Colorado.

00:12:59.000 Scott Garrett, New Jersey.

00:12:59.000 Gary Herbert, Utah.

00:13:00.000 I mean, this list goes on and on.

00:13:02.000 McCain.

00:13:03.000 Senator Rob Portman.

00:13:05.000 John Thune.

00:13:06.000 I mean, the list is endless, okay?

00:13:08.000 So a lot of people just decide, okay, we're out, and the reason we're out is because we're not gonna burn with you, okay?

00:13:12.000 You're gonna go down in flames, and we're not gonna do it.

00:13:14.000 We're not burning with you. 0.99

00:13:16.000 We're not burning with you.

00:13:17.000 We're not going to do this.

00:13:18.000 Okay, so, what that formed up into over the weekend was a lot of people saying that Trump should drop out.

00:13:22.000 One of the people saying Trump should drop out is Senator Mike Lee, who never endorsed Trump in the first place, and is one of the few honest people left in the United States Congress.

00:13:29.000 I really like Mike Lee, like, personally, and also as a politician.

00:13:32.000 Here's the senator from Utah.

00:13:34.000 Now, there is a way here for Mr. Trump to have a legacy in this election cycle, and for his supporters who are really energetic, who have done a whole lot of good as far as expanding the party, to have a lasting legacy that could mean something here, and that is for Donald Trump to step aside.

00:13:54.000 Okay, so he says that we need to get rid of Donald Trump.

00:14:06.000 Now, we'll talk about Trump's reaction, and we'll talk about all the rest of this, the debate, in just a second.

00:14:10.000 I want to make a quick note, and then I have to take a break really quickly for another ad, but here's the quick note, okay folks?

00:14:16.000 I know this isn't pleasant to talk about.

00:14:18.000 You think that I'm sitting here, chortling over this?

00:14:20.000 This is horrifying.

00:14:21.000 Okay?

00:14:21.000 It's horrible.

00:14:22.000 And I wish that none of this mattered.

00:14:23.000 I wish that Donald Trump could say stuff like this, and, you know, it wouldn't make any difference.

00:14:28.000 First of all, I don't wish he could say stuff like this.

00:14:30.000 I don't think anyone should say stuff like this, because I don't.

00:14:32.000 I believe I'm a gentleman, and I think that that matters to people.

00:14:35.000 And all these people who think that it's being a pansy to be nice to women, and not say nasty things about women, I would just recommend they check their morals handbook again.

00:14:42.000 I wish that we lived in a world where these weren't the candidates.

00:14:44.000 I wish that Donald Trump were a better candidate.

00:14:46.000 I wish that Republicans weren't blowing this.

00:14:48.000 I wish that the polls didn't show what the polls show.

00:14:50.000 If you come here, I'm not going to give you happy talk about what's going to happen in this election.

00:14:55.000 I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear.

00:14:56.000 If you want to hear what you want to hear, there are plenty of other places you can get it.

00:14:59.000 If you want to hear this morning only about how Donald Trump is still going to win this election, and things are going to be grand and glorious, and he's going to appoint the ghost of Justice Scalia to the bench, and the Republicans are going to win 80 seats in the Senate. 0.59

00:15:09.000 If you want to hear all that crap, there are plenty of places you can go, and those places will also tell you that people like me own it when things go bad.

00:15:15.000 There are plenty of places for you to go for the happy talk. 0.98

00:15:18.000 You're not going to get the happy talk here.

00:15:19.000 I'm going to tell you what is true.

00:15:21.000 I'm going to tell you what is true.

00:15:22.000 And if you don't like it, well, tough.

00:15:24.000 Because the fact is that my job is not to lie to you.

00:15:27.000 And honestly, I don't think that it's worthwhile that any... I think the reason we got here is people lying to you.

00:15:31.000 I think the reason that we got here is that there are a lot of people, Trump supporters included, who were lied to all through the primaries and all the way up to now, who were told that Donald Trump was not only a good conservative, but were also told that not only would he be the only one who could fight, but he would be the only one capable of winning, and that when he fought, he would win.

00:15:47.000 That's what they were told.

00:15:48.000 And I don't think that was true at the time, and I don't think it's true now, and I'm telling you the poll numbers because numbers matter.

00:15:54.000 And I want to hear about stupid online polls from Matt Drudge about 97% versus 3%.

00:15:57.000 I love the Drudge report too, but online polls don't mean anything. 0.97

00:16:00.000 I'm going to give you the poll results and I'm going to tell you, there's now a serious danger that Republicans lose everything to Hillary Clinton so long as they lash themselves to the mast of this Titanic.

00:16:09.000 If you lash yourselves, I mean, Donald Trump is now in the midst of an electrical, a raging electrical fire.

00:16:14.000 All that happened in that debate last night is that he gave cover to people who still want to stick with him on the Republican political side, or at least he pressured people to stick with him on the Republican political side.

00:16:23.000 But the polls show that he is still in the middle of a raging electrical fire.

00:16:27.000 Now if you want to vote for him, you can still vote for him.

00:16:29.000 As I've said before, I understand.

00:16:31.000 I get it.

00:16:31.000 I don't think you're morally lesser for voting for Donald Trump if you think that he's worse, if you think he's better than Hillary Clinton.

00:16:37.000 Go for it.

00:16:37.000 I understand that.

00:16:39.000 Lesser of two evils logic is still compelling logic.

00:16:41.000 It still applies.

00:16:42.000 That said, I'm not going to lie to you about what's going to happen.

00:16:44.000 I'm not going to pretend your vote is going to be the difference between Donald Trump winning and Donald Trump losing. 0.99

00:16:48.000 I'm telling you, the only thing that's going to make a difference now, the only thing that's going to make a difference, is don't defend stupid, nasty things that people do and say. 0.98

00:16:55.000 Don't defend evil things that people do and say. 0.99

00:16:58.000 Stand up for principle, no matter who you're voting for, and then vote down ticket.

00:17:01.000 Because I promise you, things are not going to be ugly, they're going to be horrendous, if Hillary Clinton is elected, and if there's no Republican Congress to stop her.

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00:18:13.000 Okay, so a final quick note before we have to take our break.

00:18:16.000 Okay, so all of this happens, you know, Mike Lee said, everybody said, a lot of people say drop out.

00:18:21.000 People who are big Trump backers say drop out.

00:18:23.000 They're realizing that the writing is on the wall and all the rest.

00:18:26.000 And at this point, Trump says, I'll never drop out.

00:18:29.000 Trump says I'll never drop it.

00:18:30.000 He tweets this.

00:18:30.000 Okay, let me explain something, folks.

00:18:32.000 You're all going to be let down.

00:18:33.000 You're all going to be let down because he's going to get crushed.

00:18:44.000 Sorry to break it to you.

00:18:45.000 I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings.

00:18:47.000 He is going to lose.

00:18:49.000 And he's not going to lose in small fashion.

00:18:52.000 He's going to lose spectacularly.

00:18:53.000 We're talking about McGovern-type numbers.

00:18:55.000 We're talking about Walter Mondale-type numbers.

00:18:58.000 It's going to be very, very, very ugly.

00:19:01.000 And the worst part is, he's now going to drag other people down with him.

00:19:04.000 Because here's the other thing that he tweeted. 0.96

00:19:06.000 Quote, so many self-righteous hypocrites watch their poll numbers and elections go down. 0.87

00:19:11.000 I remember, I'm old enough to remember when Donald Trump said we all had to vote for Donald Trump because he was going to save the Supreme Court. 0.77

00:19:17.000 Let's say that Trump were by some miracle to get elected.

00:19:19.000 Let's say that he were to win for some reason. 0.90

00:19:21.000 Okay, something were to happen and it were to come out that Hillary Clinton once had sex with a Russian horse or something and it came out in the emails released by the Russians. 0.89

00:19:29.000 Let's say all that happened.

00:19:31.000 And Donald Trump ends up in office.

00:19:32.000 But he doesn't have a Republican Senate.

00:19:35.000 He doesn't even have close to a Republican Senate.

00:19:36.000 You gonna get that Supreme Court judge? 0.98

00:19:38.000 You gonna get that wall?

00:19:39.000 You're not gonna get any of those things.

00:19:40.000 Trump didn't care.

00:19:42.000 Trump never cared.

00:19:43.000 This is all about his ego.

00:19:44.000 It was always all about his ego.

00:19:46.000 Today, Paul Ryan said, I'm not gonna campaign for Trump.

00:19:48.000 I'm not gonna defend Trump.

00:19:50.000 I'll still vote for him, but I'm not going to campaign or defend Trump, because I'm not going to get burned and burn all the members of the House having to defend all of Trump's horrible statements that are going to come out.

00:19:58.000 By the way, if you think that the only shoe to drop is this P-word video, get ready, gang.

00:20:02.000 Get ready.

00:20:02.000 It's going to be 12 days of Christmas for the media, because this is just—there's going to be a gift every single day, and I'll tell you what the next gifts are going to be in just a minute, because it was perfectly set up last night, and Trump fell right into it.

00:20:13.000 Okay, Trump's response to Paul Ryan was, Speaker Ryan should go back to being crappy at his job, basically.

00:20:19.000 This is really what he tweeted, okay?

00:20:21.000 This is the guy running for president on the Republican ticket.

00:20:23.000 Quote, Paul Ryan should spend more time on balancing the budget, jobs, and illegal immigration and not waste his time on fighting Republican nominee.

00:20:31.000 That's what Trump is tweeting out at his own Speaker of the House.

00:20:34.000 Yeah, clearly this is a guy who cares deeply about what happens to the Republican Party.

00:20:38.000 He doesn't care about the Republican Party.

00:20:39.000 He has no interest in what happens here.

00:20:41.000 And we'll talk about something next.

00:20:43.000 We'll talk about something Kellyanne Conway did that's even worse than what Trump did, which is amazing, because I like Kellyanne Conway.

00:20:48.000 But first, we have to take our break.

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00:21:34.000 Okay, so we're going to go for the length record on this show today, because there's just so much to talk about.

00:21:40.000 So lucky you, gang.

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00:21:43.000 So, Donald Trump threatens.

00:21:45.000 He's threatening people down ballot.

00:21:46.000 He's threatening everybody else. 0.98

00:21:48.000 You know, if you don't vote for me, I will burn you down. 1.00

00:21:51.000 If you back out on me, I will burn you down. 0.95

00:21:53.000 I will inform all my voters, essentially, they shouldn't vote down ballot.

00:21:56.000 They'll vote Trump at the top and then leave the rest blank, which means that Trump loses and the Republicans lose.

00:22:01.000 Because that's who he is. 1.00

00:22:02.000 He's a spiteful, petty, egotistical jerk. 1.00

00:22:04.000 I mean, he doesn't care about any of the priorities he supposedly cares about. 1.00

00:22:08.000 I don't want to hear anymore about Donald Trump and his conservative priorities.

00:22:11.000 If he actually cared, he would still care about whether Republicans win the Senate or the House, even if he loses.

00:22:17.000 I care about it.

00:22:19.000 I care about it, don't you?

00:22:19.000 Okay, so, Donald Trump's campaign manager then goes out and does something even worse.

00:22:25.000 Kellyanne Conway.

00:22:26.000 So, I've been very kind to Kellyanne Conway.

00:22:28.000 I think most people have, right?

00:22:30.000 Most people have been very nice to Kellyanne Conway because they've said, what a wonderful job she's done containing Trump for most of this.

00:22:37.000 And then up until the last couple of weeks, that was true.

00:22:39.000 And then the monster escaped the basement, as I like to say.

00:22:42.000 He broke free of his chains and decided to assault a small child.

00:22:45.000 So Kellyanne Conway has been sort of the bright spot in this campaign.

00:22:51.000 And that all died for me last night.

00:22:53.000 So this is what she said right after the debate about fellow Republicans.

00:22:56.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:22:57.000 Let me just explain to you somebody who works for him and knows him well and has been alone with him many times.

00:23:02.000 He is very gracious.

00:23:03.000 He's a gentleman.

00:23:04.000 I've never experienced that conduct.

00:23:06.000 I would talk to some of the members of Congress out there when I was younger and prettier.

00:23:10.000 Them rubbing up against girls, sticking their tongues down women's throats. 0.98

00:23:13.000 Uninvited, who didn't like it.

00:23:15.000 Yeah, you're saying yeah because you know it's true.

00:23:16.000 No, I'm hearing you.

00:23:17.000 I've heard those accounts, of course.

00:23:19.000 And some of them, by the way, are on the list of people who won't support Donald Trump because they all ride around on their high horse.

00:23:24.000 Okay, that is the nastiest thing in the world. 0.57

00:23:28.000 That's the nastiest thing in the world, what she just did right there. 0.51

00:23:30.000 So she says, you know, you're talking about Donald Trump and sexual harassment and all the rest of it.

00:23:34.000 Well, how about all of these Congress people who are doing it?

00:23:37.000 But the nasty thing is, she says, some of them are on the list of people who aren't endorsing him.

00:23:41.000 Okay, Kellyanne, if you don't want to be a bad person, and this does make you a bad person, by the way.

00:23:45.000 Shouting accusations at people without any evidence or without even naming them makes you a bad person.

00:23:49.000 She says, they're on the list, but she won't name them.

00:23:55.000 So, let's assume that they're sexual harassers. 1.00

00:23:56.000 I mean, what she's talking about is sexual harassment or sexual assault.

00:23:59.000 That's what she's talking about.

00:24:00.000 She won't name them?

00:24:01.000 She won't name them.

00:24:02.000 Right?

00:24:02.000 They're just—we're supposed to guess at it.

00:24:04.000 Which, of course, slanders the entire group. 0.99

00:24:06.000 Everybody who doesn't support Donald Trump is a closet sexual abuser, according to Kellyanne Conway. 0.99

00:24:12.000 That's about as nasty as it gets. 0.99

00:24:13.000 And the only way to escape the wrath of Kellyanne Conway going on national TV and suggesting that you're groping up the interns is for you to vote for Donald Trump? 1.00

00:24:21.000 That's what this comes down to now?

00:24:23.000 What a horrifying party this has become, if this is the way that we're going to run elections now.

00:24:26.000 I mean, truly horrifying.

00:24:28.000 Why wouldn't I?

00:24:29.000 You should be horrified by this.

00:24:30.000 It's horrifying, I'm sorry.

00:24:32.000 When you have a member of your own party accusing members of your own party, without evidence and without names, of sexually assaulting women.

00:24:39.000 First of all, if she wants to protect other women, wouldn't you assume she'd name them?

00:24:42.000 And why wouldn't she name them? 1.00

00:24:43.000 To protect other women from the, from the depredations of these evil bastards that she's talking about. 0.99

00:24:48.000 But no, she's just gonna, because her goal isn't to protect women, gang. 1.00

00:24:51.000 Her goal is to protect Donald Trump, who it turns out is the weakest of them all.

00:24:54.000 Okay, so all this goes down, and then the defense starts.

00:24:57.000 Then the defense starts.

00:24:58.000 So, you got Rudy Giuliani out there, who doesn't have the most wonderful history with his own wives.

00:25:03.000 Rudy Giuliani out there talking about what men talk about in the locker room.

00:25:06.000 Let's talk with Rudy Giuliani about what men talk about in the locker room.

00:25:09.000 Go, Rudy.

00:25:10.000 I don't know any man.

00:25:11.000 I've been in locker rooms.

00:25:12.000 I've been a member of a fraternity.

00:25:14.000 I have never heard any man ever brag about being able to maul women because they get away with it.

00:25:22.000 Never.

00:25:24.000 We've taken it to an extra degree.

00:25:26.000 In any event, we've taken it to an extra degree of what he said.

00:25:29.000 But the fact is that men at times talk like that.

00:25:33.000 Not all men, but men do.

00:25:34.000 You've talked like that?

00:25:35.000 He was wrong for doing it.

00:25:36.000 I am not justifying it.

00:25:38.000 I believe it's wrong.

00:25:39.000 I know he believes it's wrong.

00:25:41.000 I believe that this is not the man that we're talking about today.

00:25:45.000 Okay, so he refuses to answer the question whether he's talked like that.

00:25:48.000 Okay, so I'll be straight with you, okay?

00:25:49.000 I'm not somebody who fancies hanging out in locker rooms. 0.67

00:25:52.000 I'm not that interested in looking at other sweaty, naked male dudes, okay?

00:25:55.000 That's not something I'm interested in.

00:25:56.000 My goal in the locker room is to get dressed and get out of there as quickly as possible before I see some 60-year-old walking through hanging. 1.00

00:26:02.000 Right?

00:26:03.000 I mean, that's not what I'm interested in.

00:26:05.000 And by the way,

00:26:06.000 Any man of any age, but particularly once you're old and gray, the sights are not wonderful in there.

00:26:11.000 So my goal is to get out of there as fast as possible.

00:26:13.000 I don't know who hangs around in the locker room in their towels talking about what Donald Trump does.

00:26:18.000 Again, you make light of this, imagine for a second you're an undecided woman, you're a suburban soccer mom, and you're watching this.

00:26:25.000 Does this make you like the Republicans more?

00:26:27.000 Or does this make you like the Republicans less?

00:26:29.000 Forget about whether you think it's truth, forget about the truth or falsity, because this is politics and truth was left aside long ago.

00:26:35.000 Let's instead, let's instead focus, perhaps, on the political reality here.

00:26:40.000 So, what do you think?

00:26:42.000 What do you think?

00:26:42.000 Do you think that this is, do you think,

00:26:45.000 That this is a, uh, does this make him more likable?

00:26:48.000 Do you like Rudy Giuliani more if you're a single, if you're, if you're a single woman or if you're a soccer mom?

00:26:52.000 Does this make him more or less likely to vote Republican?

00:26:54.000 Okay.

00:26:54.000 Brian Kilmeade on Fox and Friends.

00:26:56.000 I like Brian personally.

00:26:57.000 I think Brian's a wonderful guy.

00:26:58.000 His books are terrific.

00:26:59.000 He has a really good book about George Washington and the spy ring that's really, really good.

00:27:02.000 Here's Brian Kilmeade doing his best to defend Trump.

00:27:05.000 Soon we're going to all stop texting and talking to each other because it all could come back to bite us.

00:27:09.000 Let's just stop communicating entirely.

00:27:11.000 I'm of the belief that private comments generally should not be up for public debate.

00:27:15.000 When Donald Sterling was caught on tape saying bad things about black people.

00:27:29.000 I actually thought that it was nasty that they took his team away from him because I didn't see any behavior that was connected to it.

00:27:35.000 Donald Trump said that he has done these things.

00:27:37.000 There are reports of him having done these things.

00:27:40.000 Therefore, it is now relevant.

00:27:41.000 Therefore, it's now relevant.

00:27:43.000 End of story.

00:27:45.000 And put aside the whole thing.

00:27:46.000 Politically speaking, of course, he's toast.

00:27:48.000 Politically, he's in trouble.

00:27:49.000 Katrina Pearson does her best to try and defend. 1.00

00:27:51.000 Katrina Pearson on defense, not a great look. 1.00

00:27:54.000 Look, I have two brothers.

00:27:56.000 I was in sports, so I was around a lot of athletes.

00:27:58.000 This truly was two men who had what they thought was a private conversation talking about an attractive woman.

00:28:04.000 He calls it locker room banter. 0.98

00:28:05.000 Do your brothers talk about grabbing women by the genitals?

00:28:08.000 I don't know what they talk about specifically because when I walk into the room they stop those discussions. 0.79

00:28:12.000 You know your brothers.

00:28:12.000 You believe that they talk about grabbing women by the genitals and laughing about it and doing whatever they want to them?

00:28:17.000 But what I will say is I've also been around a lot of famous athletes and Hollywood celebrity types.

00:28:22.000 Okay, who cares if they were 11 years ago?

00:28:23.000 He was 59 at the time.

00:28:24.000 Oh, he was just a young lad back in his youth at 59.

00:28:26.000 But, okay, so this is Week T. So, this is all the lead-up to the debate.

00:28:28.000 This is all the lead-up to the debate.

00:28:29.000 So, we get, you know, in spitting distance to the debate, and Donald Trump knows that he's

00:28:47.000 In serious trouble.

00:29:06.000 True.

00:29:07.000 True.

00:29:08.000 It's just late.

00:29:09.000 Okay?

00:29:09.000 It's late.

00:29:10.000 And also, he's not running against Bill.

00:29:11.000 He's running against Hillary.

00:29:12.000 Women are more sympathetic to Hillary in these scenarios than they are to the actual guy who says he's going to sexually assault women. 0.92

00:29:18.000 They just are.

00:29:18.000 Okay?

00:29:19.000 Forget about whether what Hillary did is terrible or not.

00:29:21.000 It is.

00:29:21.000 But, if you ask a woman, what's worse?

00:29:24.000 What's worse? 0.66

00:29:25.000 Raping a woman?

00:29:26.000 Or the wife coming up later and patting her hand and saying, thank you for everything you do for us, which is what she said to Juanita Broderick, allegedly.

00:29:34.000 Or saying that Kathleen Willey was some bimbo or floozy.

00:29:37.000 Which do you think that women think is worse? 1.00

00:29:39.000 The sexual assault and the guy bragging about it, or the lady who's sort of covering for it later? 0.95

00:29:44.000 Most women are not. 1.00

00:29:47.000 I don't know.

00:30:09.000 And making some moves and doing his best to attempt to avoid stepping in the bear trap.

00:30:16.000 And so, I'll say up front, I mean, I said at the top of the show, I think Trump won the debate in the sense that Trump's goal here was to survive.

00:30:22.000 That's all it was.

00:30:23.000 I mean, he can't win the election anymore.

00:30:25.000 He may think he can, he can't.

00:30:27.000 But his goal here was to not end his campaign.

00:30:30.000 It was to stop the bleeding inside the Republican Party.

00:30:33.000 And he did that.

00:30:34.000 It was good enough to force

00:30:36.000 All of the other Republicans back into the train with him, which is good for him and very bad for the Republican Party. 0.58

00:30:42.000 The best thing that might have been able to happen for the Republican Party is if the dudes toast anyway, have him utterly blow up last night, and then everyone sort of leaves, and then the Senate and House races become completely separate from Trump.

00:30:52.000 But he was good enough last night to rope them back on.

00:30:55.000 And so instead of it just being a giant party implosion right now, October 10th, it's going to be a slow rolling implosion all the way up to November 8th, which is probably worst case scenario.

00:31:03.000 Since everything has gone as badly as it possibly could go in 2016, of course that's how this goes.

00:31:09.000 So Trump starts off the debate and the first question, and I will say the moderators were awful, the questions were awful, Martha Raddatz

00:31:18.000 Clearly wanted to debate.

00:31:19.000 She at one point almost tried to reach in and have Hillary tag her so she could jump in like a tag team and then jump on Donald Trump. 1.00

00:31:28.000 Anderson Cooper wasn't quite as bad, but there was one moment that's very clearly designated as a hit point on Donald Trump.

00:31:34.000 Anyway, the debate starts, and here's how it looks.

00:31:37.000 Thank you and good evening.

00:31:38.000 The last presidential debate could have been rated as M.A., Mature Audiences per TV Parental Guidelines.

00:31:46.000 Knowing the educators assigned viewing the presidential debate to students' homework, do you feel you are modeling appropriate and positive behavior for today's youth?

00:31:55.000 Well, thank you.

00:31:56.000 Are you a teacher?

00:31:58.000 Yes, I think that that's a very good question because I've heard from lots of teachers and parents about some of their concerns about some of the things that are being said and done in this campaign.

00:32:12.000 And I think it is very important for us to make clear to our children that our country really is great because we're good.

00:32:22.000 Stop it there.

00:32:22.000 So I just want to point out, she's paraphrasing Alexis de Tocqueville, who's a French philosopher who visited the United States around 1830.

00:32:28.000 Of course, she won't cite the rest of the quote.

00:32:29.000 The rest of the quote is that he looked for the goodness of America in her harbors, and he looked for the goodness of America in her Constitution, which is wonderful, and in the Declaration, and he found it in her churches.

00:32:39.000 He found the goodness of America in her churches.

00:32:41.000 The greatness of America was in the fire from the pulpit.

00:32:44.000 Which is, of course, all the stuff that she opposes.

00:32:46.000 But she says, America, if we're good, then we'll be great. 0.54

00:32:50.000 And you can see Trump is in the background just growling because this question was absolutely designed as, OK, Hillary, hit him across the face as hard as you possibly can.

00:32:58.000 OK, so then Trump answers.

00:32:59.000 And we get at the very beginning, we have sedated Trump at the very beginning.

00:33:04.000 Well, I actually agree with that.

00:33:05.000 I agree with everything she said.

00:33:09.000 I began this campaign because I was so tired of seeing such foolish things happen to our country.

00:33:16.000 This is a great country.

00:33:18.000 This is a great land.

00:33:19.000 I've gotten to know the people of the country over the last year and a half that I've been doing this as a politician.

00:33:26.000 I cannot believe I'm saying that about myself, but I guess I have been a politician.

00:33:31.000 And my whole concept was to make America great again.

00:33:35.000 Okay, so he gives his stump speech.

00:33:37.000 Okay, so all of this is going well so far.

00:33:39.000 At this juncture, we have to play Good Trump, Bad Trump, simply because Lindsey's here and she's never—Lindsey's the creator of Good Trump, Bad Trump, by the way.

00:33:45.000 It was not me.

00:33:46.000 She created—actually, did I create the concept of Good Trump, Bad Trump, and then you created the heads, or did you actually create Good Trump, Bad Trump out of— You said, this is a good example of Trump being good.

00:33:56.000 Good Trump.

00:33:57.000 And then we— Oh, that's— You walked in one day and I had put the heads on six— That's exactly—

00:34:02.000 It was a coordinated effort, and Lindsey sings to inanimate objects, and that's how we came up with Good Trump, Bad Trump, so we have to play the theme because she's never seen it.

00:34:09.000 So, Good Trump, Bad Trump.

00:34:10.000 Let's do it.

00:34:18.000 Yes, okay, so there's plenty of congratulations to Lindsay.

00:34:21.000 Her mark on the world has been left.

00:34:22.000 So that's it.

00:34:24.000 So, okay, back to the debate.

00:34:26.000 So, then we get down to brass tacks.

00:34:28.000 Anderson Cooper goes after Donald Trump on this tape.

00:34:34.000 The question from Patrice was about, are you both modeling positive and appropriate behaviors for today's youth?

00:34:40.000 We received a lot of questions online, Mr. Trump, about the tape that was released on Friday.

00:34:43.000 As you can imagine, you called what you said locker room banter. 0.96

00:34:47.000 You described kissing women without consent, grabbing their genitals. 0.99

00:34:50.000 That is sexual assault. 1.00

00:34:52.000 You bragged that you have sexually assaulted women.

00:34:55.000 Do you understand that?

00:34:56.000 No, I didn't say that at all.

00:34:57.000 I don't think you understood what was said.

00:34:59.000 This was locker room talk.

00:35:02.000 I'm not proud of it.

00:35:03.000 I apologize to my family.

00:35:04.000 I apologize to the American people.

00:35:07.000 Certainly, I'm not proud of it.

00:35:08.000 But this is locker room talk.

00:35:10.000 You know, when we have a world

00:35:12.000 Where you have ISIS chopping off heads, where you have...

00:35:28.000 Anderson Cooper isn't going to let him off this easy.

00:35:30.000 So, for folks who think that only one shoe has dropped and another one is coming, here is your proof.

00:35:35.000 Okay?

00:35:36.000 This is just a quick political read.

00:35:38.000 The next segment where Anderson Cooper grills Donald Trump, there is a purpose to this.

00:35:41.000 Okay?

00:35:41.000 Watch this exchange.

00:35:43.000 This is not the last you're going to hear of this exchange.

00:35:45.000 Here we go.

00:35:46.000 And we should get on to much more important things and much bigger things.

00:35:50.000 Just for the record, though, are you saying that what you said on that bus 11 years ago, that you did not actually kiss women without consent or grope women without consent?

00:35:59.000 I have great respect for women. 1.00

00:36:00.000 Nobody has more respect for women than I do.

00:36:03.000 So for the record, you're saying you never did that?

00:36:04.000 I said things that, frankly, you hear these things are said.

00:36:09.000 And I was embarrassed by it.

00:36:11.000 But I have tremendous respect for women. 0.98

00:36:12.000 Have you ever done those things?

00:36:13.000 And women have respect for me. 1.00

00:36:15.000 And I will tell you, no I have not.

00:36:17.000 And I will tell you that I'm going to make our country safe.

00:36:20.000 Thank you Mr. Trump.

00:36:21.000 And that's what I want to talk about.

00:36:22.000 Secretary Clinton, do you want to respond?

00:36:25.000 Well, like everyone else, I've spent a lot of time thinking over the last 48 hours about what we heard and saw.

00:36:34.000 You know, with prior Republican nominees for president, I disagreed with them on politics, policies, principles, but I never questioned their fitness to serve.

00:36:49.000 Donald Trump is different.

00:36:51.000 I said starting back in June that he was not fit to be President and Commander-in-Chief.

00:36:58.000 And many Republicans and Independents have said the same thing.

00:37:04.000 What we all saw and heard on Friday was Donald talking about women.

00:37:12.000 What he thinks about women.

00:37:14.000 What he does to women.

00:37:16.000 And he has said that the video doesn't represent who he is.

00:37:22.000 But I think it's clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly who he is.

00:37:28.000 And then she goes on to explain all the things that he's done in this campaign.

00:37:32.000 Who wins this exchange, number one?

00:37:34.000 She clearly wins this exchange, right?

00:37:35.000 I mean, he's standing there and then she hits him with the woman card. 1.00

00:37:38.000 She says, you know, as a woman, we've all been treated this way.

00:37:41.000 We know men who have treated us this way.

00:37:43.000 Right now, before this debate, he was already sliding the polls.

00:37:46.000 Let's not pretend that it was this tape and this debate that killed him.

00:37:48.000 He was already sliding.

00:37:49.000 He already had serious troubles by Wednesday of last week.

00:37:51.000 We talked about the polls last week.

00:37:53.000 But now, the gender gap is just going to explode. 0.98

00:37:55.000 It's going to explode.

00:37:56.000 I mean, the gender gap is going to go from 20 points to 35 points, and Trump is toast.

00:38:00.000 So, but here's the part of that exchange that's clearly a get.

00:38:03.000 Cooper asks him, have you ever done the things you say on the tape?

00:38:07.000 He asks him it three times.

00:38:09.000 The first two times, Trump shies away.

00:38:11.000 The third time, Trump says, no, I have not.

00:38:14.000 That is going to be the clip that they play a thousand times because the fact is that what you're now going to see for a week, I promise you this, you're going to see for at least a week a bunch of women, beautiful young women, come out and say Donald Trump did exactly what he talked about to me.

00:38:26.000 You will see that.

00:38:27.000 Okay?

00:38:28.000 Because the New York Times is reporting this back in May.

00:38:30.000 The New York Times is reporting all the way back in May that there were women at the Miss Universe pageant who said that Donald Trump approached them and then would just kiss them without permission.

00:38:41.000 So this is what we call a setup.

00:38:42.000 This is a journalistic setup.

00:38:43.000 I know, I've done it myself.

00:38:44.000 I mean, what you do is you push and you push until you get an answer that you're looking for, and then that's the baton that you wield against people, right?

00:38:50.000 Anybody who's ever questioned anybody as a prosecutor, as a lawyer, or as a journalist knows how to do this.

00:38:55.000 They know how to do this.

00:38:57.000 And you can see that this is, that that's exactly what's happening here.

00:39:01.000 You know that's where this is going.

00:39:03.000 So, big mistake by Trump there, because that was the entire purpose of this line of questioning.

00:39:07.000 Here's the quote, by the way, from the New York Times, May 15, 2016, quote, Temple Taggart, the 21-year-old Miss Utah, was startled by how forward he was with young contestants like her in 1997, his first year as the owner of Miss USA.

00:39:18.000 As she recalls it, he introduced himself in an unusually intimate manner, quote,

00:39:24.000 He kissed me directly on the lips.

00:39:26.000 I thought, oh my god, gross.

00:39:27.000 He was married to Marla Maples at the time.

00:39:29.000 I think there were a few other girls that he kissed on the mouth.

00:39:31.000 I was like, wow, that's inappropriate.

00:39:34.000 Mr. Trump disputes this, saying he's reluctant to kiss strangers on the lips.

00:39:37.000 Except that now there's that tape of him saying that he loves kissing strangers on the lips, right?

00:39:41.000 So, I promise you, this is not the last you've heard of this.

00:39:43.000 This is obviously, obviously, obviously a setup.

00:39:46.000 That's obviously a setup.

00:39:48.000 So.

00:39:49.000 That said, we move on in the debate.

00:39:50.000 So Donald Trump, you know, now he's got troubles because this is not going away.

00:39:54.000 Then Donald Trump, you know, gives kind of his final defense on this particular issue.

00:40:01.000 He says that Hillary Clinton, when she says that she's going to bring the country together around diversity, that's just words.

00:40:06.000 That's what Hillary says. 0.87

00:40:07.000 Those words, I've been hearing them for many years.

00:40:10.000 I heard them when they were running for the Senate in New York, where Hillary was going to bring back jobs to upstate New York.

00:40:19.000 And she failed.

00:40:20.000 I've heard them where Hillary is constantly talking about the inner cities of our country.

00:40:25.000 Which are a disaster.

00:40:28.000 Education.

00:40:28.000 She constantly is talking but she never helps.

00:40:31.000 I did want to take a moment here to show a clip which kind of demonstrates how the moderators or Martha Raddatz was egregious. 1.00

00:40:37.000 I mean, Martha Raddatz was just awful, awful. 0.89

00:40:40.000 One of the worst things I've ever seen as a moderator.

00:40:42.000 She shouldn't have been moderating after the VP debate last time.

00:40:44.000 I mean, she was terrible last time.

00:40:46.000 Now she does this debate and she clearly just wanted to hit Trump over and over. 1.00

00:40:49.000 Here's an example of Martha Raddatz going after Trump. 1.00

00:40:53.000 Mr. Trump, I want to get to audience questions and online questions.

00:40:57.000 So she's allowed to do that, but I'm not allowed to respond.

00:41:01.000 And it goes on like that.

00:41:02.000 The entire debate, Martha Raddatz was just all over him. 1.00

00:41:05.000 It actually made you sympathetic to him because she was so forward.

00:41:08.000 Okay, here's Trump's actual response to Hillary.

00:41:10.000 I don't know.

00:41:26.000 That was locker room talk.

00:41:28.000 I'm not proud of it.

00:41:29.000 I am a person who has great respect for people, for my family, for the people of this country.

00:41:36.000 And certainly I'm not proud of it.

00:41:38.000 But that was something that happened.

00:41:41.000 If you look at Bill Clinton,

00:41:44.000 Far worse.

00:41:44.000 Minor words and his was action.

00:41:47.000 His was what he's done to women. 0.93

00:41:48.000 There's never been anybody in the history of politics in this nation that's been so abusive to women. 1.00

00:41:55.000 So you can say any way you want to say it, but Bill Clinton was abusive to women. 1.00

00:42:01.000 Hillary Clinton attacked those same women. 1.00

00:42:04.000 And attack them viciously, four of them here tonight. 0.99

00:42:08.000 One of the women, who is a wonderful woman at 12 years old, was raped. 0.99

00:42:14.000 At 12.

00:42:15.000 Her client, she represented, got him off, and she's seen laughing on two separate occasions, laughing at the girl who was raped.

00:42:23.000 Kathy Shelton, that young woman, is here with us tonight.

00:42:28.000 So, don't tell me about words.

00:42:30.000 I am absolutely, I apologize for those words.

00:42:35.000 But it is things that people say.

00:42:38.000 But what

00:42:39.000 President Clinton did.

00:42:40.000 He was impeached.

00:42:41.000 He lost his license to practice law.

00:42:44.000 He had to pay an $850,000 fine to one of the women, Paula Jones, who's also here tonight. 1.00

00:42:52.000 And I will tell you that when Hillary brings up a point like that, and she talks about words that I said 11 years ago, I think it's disgraceful, and I think she should be ashamed of herself, if you want to know the truth.

00:43:07.000 OK, so that's Trump's answer.

00:43:08.000 And he, I mean, he hits her hard.

00:43:10.000 I will point out here that he misses the knockout punch, which is, if you're going to hit her with this, you hit her with Juanita Broderick. 0.98

00:43:16.000 I mean, your husband raped somebody, and then you intimidated her. 0.94

00:43:19.000 And then what you should have said is, Hillary Clinton, Juanita Broderick is here with us tonight.

00:43:22.000 Do you have any words that you want to say to Juanita Broderick?

00:43:23.000 Would you like to apologize to Juanita Broderick?

00:43:26.000 You force her into the corner if you really want to deliver the knockout blow. 1.00

00:43:29.000 He didn't do that.

00:43:29.000 He sort of let her slip the punch.

00:43:31.000 And instead, here was her response.

00:43:34.000 Well, you owe the president an apology because, as you know very well, your campaign— Sorry, I'll pause it for one second.

00:43:41.000 She says, first, let me say so much of what he said is not right, but he gets to run his campaign any way he chooses.

00:43:46.000 And then she says, when they go low, you go high.

00:43:48.000 So she tries to pretend that none of this ever happened, or she just acts like it never happened, and she just kind of glosses right over it.

00:43:54.000 She just glosses right over it.

00:43:56.000 Okay, well, you know, that is what it is.

00:44:00.000 That is what it is.

00:44:01.000 I mean, she glosses right over it.

00:44:02.000 It doesn't stick to her quite as much as the comments stick to him because they're all allegations and because they're not on tape and they can't replay the tape every five seconds on the news as they will all day today and as they have.

00:44:13.000 But Trump is on offense.

00:44:14.000 This is the turning point in the debate.

00:44:15.000 This is when Trump goes on offense, and he stays on offense basically the rest of the debate.

00:44:18.000 And this is why he does well in the debate.

00:44:20.000 He does better than he's supposed to in the debate, because Donald Trump's goal in this debate is basically to keep her on the defensive and also not to die.

00:44:29.000 I mean, that's basically his goal, is not to watch his campaign completely fall apart.

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00:45:41.000 Okay, so Donald Trump continues being on offense and he does so by going after Hillary Clinton on the email.

00:45:47.000 So he says that

00:45:49.000 Bernie Sanders signed on with the devil, and the media goes crazy over this because they're saying that Trump is calling her the devil.

00:45:53.000 He's not, okay?

00:45:54.000 It's a colloquialism.

00:45:55.000 The media is really unfair.

00:45:56.000 On this debate, particularly, they said Trump was hovering over her.

00:45:59.000 He wasn't hovering over her.

00:46:00.000 That was the camera angle.

00:46:01.000 But they say that he calls—he says that she signed—that Sanders signed on with the devil.

00:46:06.000 He slapped her so hard on the emails.

00:46:08.000 I mean, this was probably the best point of his debate campaign so far.

00:46:12.000 Clip 20.

00:46:14.000 I was so surprised to see him sign on with the devil.

00:46:18.000 But when you talk about apology, I think the one that you should really be apologizing for and the thing that you should be apologizing for are the 33,000 emails that you deleted and that you acid washed.

00:46:32.000 And then the two boxes of emails and other things last week that were taken from an office and are now missing.

00:46:40.000 And I'll tell you what.

00:46:41.000 I didn't think I'd say this, but I'm going to say it.

00:46:44.000 And I hate to say it, but if I win, I am going to instruct my Attorney General to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation, because there has never been so many lies, so much deception.

00:47:00.000 There has never been anything like it.

00:47:02.000 And we're going to have a special prosecutor.

00:47:05.000 When I speak, I go out and speak.

00:47:07.000 The people of this country are furious.

00:47:10.000 In my opinion, the people that have been long-term workers at the FBI are furious.

00:47:15.000 There has never been anything like this, where emails, and you get a subpoena, you get a subpoena, and after getting the subpoena, you delete 33,000 emails.

00:47:26.000 And then you acid-wash them, or bleach them, as you would say.

00:47:28.000 A very expensive process.

00:47:30.000 Okay, by the way, just in breaking news, Katrina Pearson is now tweeting that, quote, I can't keep my phone charged due to the mass volume of texts from people all over the country who will vote Trump but not down-ballot.

00:47:41.000 So, again, now his entire campaign team is trying to actively sabotage Republican chances.

00:47:46.000 This was—but back to the debate.

00:47:47.000 This was Trump's best point in the debate, when Donald Trump said—when Donald Trump

00:47:52.000 I had appointed a special prosecutor to go after you, basically.

00:47:56.000 Okay, so people were going crazy over this because of what he said next.

00:48:00.000 This is the exchange where he says that he would put her in jail.

00:48:03.000 The audience needs to calm down here.

00:48:05.000 I told people that it would be impossible to be fact-checking Donald all the time.

00:48:09.000 I'd never get to talk about anything I want to do and how we're going to really make lives better for people.

00:48:15.000 So, once again, go to HillaryClinton.com. 1.00

00:48:18.000 We have literally Trump.

00:48:20.000 Fact check him in real time.

00:48:24.000 Last time, at the first debate, we had millions of people fact-checking, so I expect we'll have millions more fact-checking because, you know, it's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country.

00:48:41.000 Because you'd be in jail.

00:48:49.000 We want to remind the audience to please not...

00:48:53.000 Talk out loud.

00:48:53.000 Please do not applaud.

00:48:54.000 You're just wasting time.

00:49:23.000 The media lost their minds over this comment.

00:49:25.000 Oh my God, he's like a banana republic. 0.99

00:49:26.000 He's like a dictator. 0.78

00:49:27.000 He wants to jail his opponent.

00:49:29.000 Okay, first of all, he's joking.

00:49:30.000 He's clearly joking.

00:49:32.000 Second of all, when he says that you'd be in jail, he means because you're guilty and I would appoint a special prosecutor to look into your guilt, not I'm going to unilaterally grab you and throw you into a prison like a Ukrainian dictator, right? 0.83

00:49:43.000 That's not, that's not what he means.

00:49:44.000 So that's totally unfair to Trump.

00:49:46.000 So she's now on the ropes and she continues to be on the ropes because whenever he's attacking her, and I've been saying this the entire election cycle,

00:49:52.000 When he attacks her, he's 100% right.

00:49:54.000 When she attacks him, she's 100% right.

00:49:56.000 When they defend themselves, they are lying 100% of the time. 0.98

00:49:59.000 So here is Donald Trump, and this is Hillary Clinton saying that she takes classified materials seriously, and Donald Trump slamming the living crap out of her. 0.91

00:50:06.000 I take classified materials very seriously, and always have.

00:50:10.000 When I was on the Senate Armed Services Committee, I was privy to a lot of classified material.

00:50:16.000 Obviously, as Secretary of State, I had some of the

00:50:20.000 And yet, she didn't know the letter C on a document.

00:50:43.000 Right?

00:50:44.000 She didn't even know what that word — what that letter meant.

00:50:47.000 You know, it's amazing.

00:50:48.000 I'm watching Hillary go over facts, and she's going after fact after fact.

00:50:53.000 And she's lying again because she said she — you know, what she did with the emails was fine.

00:50:58.000 You think it was fine to delete 33,000 emails?

00:51:00.000 I don't think so.

00:51:01.000 She said the 33,000 emails had to do with her daughter's wedding, number one, and a yoga class.

00:51:07.000 Well, maybe we'll give three or three or four or five or something.

00:51:11.000 33,000 emails deleted.

00:51:13.000 And now she's saying there wasn't anything wrong.

00:51:15.000 And more importantly, that was after getting a subpoena.

00:51:17.000 That wasn't before.

00:51:18.000 I mean, he just hammers her and hammers her and hammers her.

00:51:21.000 And you can see she's so unhappy.

00:51:23.000 She's so unhappy.

00:51:24.000 And the hammering continues.

00:51:26.000 The hammering continues until finally she drops the only bomb she has in her arsenal, which is, you're desperate and you're losing.

00:51:33.000 Allow her to respond, please.

00:51:34.000 Personal emails, not official.

00:51:37.000 33,000?

00:51:37.000 Well, we turned over 35,000, so it was... What about the other 15,000?

00:51:42.000 Please allow her to respond.

00:51:43.000 She didn't talk while you talked. 1.00

00:51:45.000 Yes, that's true, I didn't.

00:51:46.000 Because you have nothing to say.

00:51:47.000 I didn't in the first debate, and I'm going to try not to in this debate, because I'd like to get to the questions that the people have brought here tonight to talk to us about.

00:51:56.000 And get off this question.

00:52:00.000 Okay Donald, I know you're into big diversion tonight.

00:52:03.000 Anything to avoid talking about your campaign and the way it's exploding and the way Republicans are leaving you.

00:52:09.000 Okay, and so she drops that bomb on him.

00:52:12.000 He's right.

00:52:12.000 She's trying to get off the question, and he's right that she's trying to get off the question, and she's right that he's also trying to get off his campaign.

00:52:18.000 So again, anything they say about each other is 100% true.

00:52:20.000 Everything else they say is almost always a lie.

00:52:24.000 Okay, so finally they get to some real questions, and they talk about Obamacare, and he's good, and she's not.

00:52:29.000 And then they talk about Muslims, and this is the point where

00:52:34.000 There are 3.3 million Muslims in the United States, and I'm one of them.

00:52:47.000 You've mentioned working with Muslim nations, but with Islamophobia on the rise, how will you help people like me deal with the consequences of being labeled as a threat to the country after the election is over?

00:52:59.000 Mr. Trump, you're first.

00:53:01.000 Well, you're right about Islamophobia, and that's a shame. 0.63

00:53:05.000 But one thing we have to do is we have to make sure that — because there is a problem.

00:53:11.000 I mean, whether we like it or not — and we can be very politically correct — but whether we like it or not, there is a problem.

00:53:18.000 And we have to be sure that Muslims come in and report when they see something going on.

00:53:24.000 When they see hatred going on, they have to report it.

00:53:26.000 As an example, in San Bernardino.

00:53:28.000 Many people saw the bombs all over the apartment of the two people that killed 14 and wounded many, many people.

00:53:34.000 Horribly wounded.

00:53:35.000 They'll never be the same. 0.98

00:53:37.000 Muslims have to report the problems when they see them. 1.00

00:53:44.000 You know, there's always a reason for everything.

00:53:47.000 If they don't do that, it's a very difficult situation for our country.

00:53:52.000 Because you look at Orlando, and you look at San Bernardino, and you look at the World Trade Center, go outside, you look at Paris, look at that horrible... These are radical Islamic terrorists. 0.96

00:54:02.000 He said—and this is Trump's stump speech—all of which would be effective and bracing and somewhat refreshing about, yes, Islamophobia is a problem when it occurs, but we're significantly more worried about Islamic terrorism than people saying mean things about radical Islamic terrorism.

00:54:18.000 That would all be fine and good, except that it's coming from Donald Trump, except that it's coming from Donald Trump.

00:54:24.000 So, you know, continuing forward.

00:54:27.000 Trump wins.

00:54:28.000 I mean, he does.

00:54:29.000 The worst moment for Hillary Clinton is the one where she's talking about why she switched her stance on things. 0.79

00:54:35.000 This would be clip 30, if we can grab that.

00:54:39.000 So, two from Virginia asks, is it okay for politicians to be two-faced?

00:54:46.000 Is it acceptable for a politician to have a private stance on issues?

00:54:51.000 Secretary Clinton, your two minutes.

00:54:53.000 Right.

00:54:54.000 As I recall, that was something I said about Abraham Lincoln after having seen the wonderful Steven Spielberg movie called Lincoln.

00:55:07.000 It was a master class watching President Lincoln get the Congress to approve the 13th Amendment.

00:55:16.000 It was principled and it was strategic.

00:55:19.000 And I was making the point that it is hard sometimes to get the Congress to do what you want to do, and you have to keep working at it.

00:55:29.000 And yes, President Lincoln was trying to convince some people.

00:55:33.000 He used some arguments.

00:55:35.000 Convincing other people, he used other arguments.

00:55:37.000 That was a great, I thought, a great display of presidential leadership.

00:55:45.000 Okay, so she blames the movie Lincoln for her saying that she lies to people, basically, and Trump hits her on it, and this was Trump's—this really was Trump's high point of the night.

00:55:52.000 Again, there were a bunch of high points for Trump, but it's too late.

00:55:54.000 It's too late.

00:55:55.000 I mean, so I'll tell you what the impact of this debate is in a second, but here's Donald Trump hitting her over the Lincoln comments, and this was—you know, people were saying this is a high point for him.

00:56:02.000 I think it was very funny, but it's—but he didn't mean it to be funny because—just watch it.

00:56:07.000 Just watch it.

00:56:08.000 We're going to get to that later.

00:56:10.000 Secretary Clinton, you're out of time. 0.98

00:56:12.000 I think I should respond because it's so ridiculous. 0.98

00:56:16.000 Look, now she's blaming, she got caught in a total lie. 0.95

00:56:20.000 Her papers went out to all her friends at the banks, Goldman Sachs and everybody else.

00:56:24.000 And she said things, WikiLeaks, that just came out.

00:56:28.000 And she lied.

00:56:30.000 Now she's blaming the lie on the late, great Abraham Lincoln.

00:56:34.000 That's one that I have. 0.75

00:56:37.000 Okay, honest ape. 0.51

00:56:38.000 Honest ape never lied. 0.88

00:56:39.000 That's the good thing.

00:56:40.000 That's the big difference between Abraham Lincoln and you.

00:56:43.000 That's a big, big difference.

00:56:45.000 We're talking about some difference.

00:56:46.000 You can see how upset she is because, like, the reason that I find this clip so amusing is because when he says the late, great Abraham Lincoln, he's not even sure he's joking until he gets to the end of the phrase.

00:56:56.000 We're good to go.

00:57:13.000 Dumped his vice president directly under the bus.

00:57:15.000 He was asked about Syrian policy and he just took Pence and basically threw him directly under the bus.

00:57:24.000 And it was not a great moment for Mike Pence.

00:57:28.000 This would be, let's see, which clip would this be?

00:57:30.000 Sorry folks, we have like a thousand clips here.

00:57:32.000 But this was 37 actually. 37.

00:57:38.000 And one thing I have to say, I don't like Assad at all.

00:57:42.000 But Assad is killing ISIS.

00:57:44.000 Russia is killing ISIS.

00:57:47.000 And Iran is killing ISIS.

00:57:49.000 And those three have now lined up because of our weak foreign policy.

00:57:54.000 Mr. Trump, let me repeat the question.

00:57:57.000 If you were president,

00:57:59.000 What would you do about Syria and the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo?

00:58:04.000 And I want to remind you what your running mate said.

00:58:08.000 He said provocations by Russia need to be met with American strength and that if Russia continues to be involved in airstrikes along with the Syrian government forces of Assad, the United States of America should be prepared to use military force to strike the military targets of the Assad regime.

00:58:27.000 He and I haven't spoken, and I disagree.

00:58:29.000 I disagree.

00:58:29.000 You disagree with your running mate.

00:58:30.000 I think we have to knock out ISIS. 1.00

00:58:32.000 Right now, Syria is fighting ISIS.

00:58:35.000 We have people that want to fight both at the same time.

00:58:38.000 But Syria is no longer Syria.

00:58:39.000 Syria is Russia, and it's Iran, who she made strong, and Kerry, and Obama, made into a very powerful nation, and a very rich nation, very, very quickly.

00:58:48.000 That's a horrifying shot.

00:58:49.000 Very, very quickly.

00:58:52.000 Okay, so he dumps Mike Pence right under the bus, and Mike Pence sits—after this debate, before this debate, by the way, there were rumors that Mike Pence was going to drop out of the race, that he was so upset with the tape on Friday and Trump's handling of it, that he was going to dump out.

00:59:05.000 And then after the debate, he congratulated Donald Trump on his big win from his kennel in the basement of Winterfell.

00:59:15.000 But it's—in the end, in the end,

00:59:17.000 Trump ends up winning.

00:59:18.000 And there's plenty more to talk about in this debate, but we're running short on time, so we'll skip forward a little bit.

00:59:23.000 But all this really does, what does this do in the long run for Donald Trump?

00:59:28.000 It doesn't do much.

00:59:30.000 So I'm going to disagree.

00:59:31.000 Here's Charles Krauthammer's take on what happened in the debate.

00:59:33.000 This is clip 51.

00:59:34.000 Here's Charles Krauthammer's take on what happened in the debate.

00:59:37.000 He says Trump saved himself.

00:59:39.000 Look, Donald Trump went into this debate with his campaign hanging by a thread.

00:59:46.000 Hemorrhaging with governors, Republican senators, members of Congress running away.

00:59:53.000 And had he not done well in this debate, his campaign was over.

00:59:59.000 And that's why I think it turned out to be sort of on points, on merits, roughly a draw.

01:00:07.000 But that for him is like for the Harvard football team.

01:00:11.000 That was a win because it salvages his campaign.

01:00:14.000 He's able to go on.

01:00:16.000 OK, so he's salvaged a win.

01:00:18.000 OK, here's what actually happened.

01:00:20.000 His campaign is able to go on.

01:00:21.000 He's right.

01:00:22.000 His campaign was hanging by a thread.

01:00:23.000 The campaign is able to go on.

01:00:25.000 That does not mean that he's going to win.

01:00:27.000 He's not going to win.

01:00:29.000 OK?

01:00:29.000 And now all that's happened is that a lot of people are going to be—now the divisions in the Republican Party have actually been accentuated, because a lot of people are now going to try to force people into the car with Donald Trump.

01:00:39.000 There's a big protest as we sit here right now.

01:00:42.000 There's a very large protest, apparently, happening outside the headquarters of the Republican National Committee, trying to pressure them into extending more support for Trump, even as he collapses.

01:00:51.000 And there are signs there saying things like, better to—better to grab a P-word than to be one.

01:00:58.000 Meaning that you're pansying out if you don't back Donald Trump.

01:01:02.000 And that's going to be the line here.

01:01:03.000 But let's be real about this.

01:01:05.000 This isn't about Donald Trump anymore.

01:01:07.000 This is about the down ballot.

01:01:08.000 This is about the Senate and the House.

01:01:10.000 And Donald Trump is now actively in the act of sabotaging his own party in order to assure that he only loses by 7 as opposed to losing by 10.

01:01:17.000 Or in order to assure that they can't walk away from him and smack him on the way out.

01:01:20.000 We're all going to have to burn on this pyre with him, and the debate actually in some ways hurts the Republican Party more than helping them, because it provides this thread of logic that allows them to maintain their ties to Trump.

01:01:31.000 It almost would have been better, as I said at the very beginning, almost would have been better for the Republican Party, now that it's clear that Trump is toast. 0.98

01:01:37.000 It might have been better for them if he had gone out and absolutely made a fool of himself. 0.94

01:01:41.000 He didn't, and that's just going to prolong the agony. 0.73

01:01:43.000 So now all that's happening is that his campaign is in hospice.

01:01:47.000 When they say he stopped the bleeding,

01:01:49.000 That's true in the same sense that you stop the bleeding from somebody who's already bled out.

01:01:53.000 There's not a lot more blood to give here.

01:01:55.000 Or maybe there is, and we'll find out what it is.

01:01:57.000 I don't know how you go lower than 38% in a national poll, but we may find new lows here.

01:02:02.000 We may find new ways to do it.

01:02:03.000 It's pretty spectacular.

01:02:05.000 So, if I sound depressed today, that's because I am depressed.

01:02:07.000 This isn't an I told you so moment, because the fact is that none of that matters.

01:02:11.000 The only thing that matters is how do you stop

01:02:14.000 The Democrats.

01:02:14.000 How do you stop Hillary Clinton's agenda?

01:02:16.000 I didn't think that Trump was ever going to stop that agenda.

01:02:18.000 I thought he was part of that agenda.

01:02:19.000 I thought that Trump reflected a lot of that agenda.

01:02:21.000 I thought he was going to poison the Republican base and the Republican Party.

01:02:24.000 I thought he was going to demonstrate to the electorate that Republicans should never have power.

01:02:29.000 And he's been doing that, four square.

01:02:31.000 The only way to stop this right now is for people to quietly distance themselves from Trump and just take the hit from his supporters, because this is, you know,

01:02:39.000 I understand supporters being angry.

01:02:40.000 I do.

01:02:41.000 I understand if you still think he's going to win.

01:02:43.000 If you still think he's going to win, you need to stop reading some of the sources you're looking at and start looking at the polls.

01:02:48.000 That's all.

01:02:49.000 Real polls. 0.99

01:02:50.000 Not stupid online polls that don't mean anything. 0.97

01:02:53.000 Please, for the love of God, live in the real world. 0.99

01:02:55.000 Then we can have a conversation if you live in the real world.

01:02:57.000 We can't have a conversation if you're going to live in a fantasy world where I am the only thing standing between Donald Trump and victory.

01:03:03.000 The thing standing between Donald Trump and victory is, was, and always has been Donald Trump.

01:03:08.000 It always has been.

01:03:08.000 He could have wooed me.

01:03:09.000 I wrote a piece for National Review.

01:03:10.000 He could have.

01:03:11.000 But he decided it was more important to be Donald Trump.

01:03:14.000 Alright.

01:03:14.000 Time for some things I hate, and some stuff I like, and some stuff that I hate.

01:03:18.000 Okay, so...

01:03:19.000 And stuff I like.

01:03:21.000 I am reading a new book by Tom Wolfe, who's one of my favorite writers.

01:03:25.000 His nonfiction's a lot better than his fiction, actually.

01:03:27.000 I like his fiction, but it tends to be a little bit overlong, and it kind of varies in quality.

01:03:32.000 But his new book, The Kingdom of Speech, is really great, because I bought it thinking it was fiction, and it's nonfiction, actually.

01:03:39.000 And it's all about the theory of evolution, and how the theory of evolution can't account for the development of human language.

01:03:47.000 And it's really quite fascinating.

01:03:49.000 And I'm almost done with it now.

01:03:50.000 It's a very short volume.

01:03:51.000 It's about 160 pages.

01:03:53.000 Really well written.

01:03:54.000 If you like that sort of thing, if you like science, if you like natural history, then this is a great book.

01:03:59.000 And Woolf, of course, is a terrific writer.

01:04:01.000 Very amusing.

01:04:02.000 Really goes after Darwin hard.

01:04:04.000 And I'm a believer in the theory of evolution, by the way, and it's a fascinating book and uncovers some aspects of the theory of evolution that really have been ignored for too long.

01:04:13.000 Okay, so that's the thing I like.

01:04:14.000 Now, something else that I like, and I liked it more, I think, you know, before Kellyanne Conway decided that it was more important for her to be a Donald Trump surrogate than a good person.

01:04:24.000 But Saturday Night Live did a bit on Kellyanne Conway and what her day is like lately, and this is what her day off looks like. 0.81

01:04:31.000 SNL is very rarely funny, and we'll hit them again in a second, but this is actually quite funny.

01:05:05.000 Breaking news, Donald Trump has tweeted yet again that Hillary Clinton cheated on her husband.

01:05:10.000 Kellyanne, how do you defend this tweet?

01:05:12.000 Jake, that's unfair, because what Mr. Trump was getting at here clearly is not that Hillary cheated on Bill, but that she's been cheating the American people for decades.

01:05:21.000 But that's not what the tweet said.

01:05:23.000 I think if you really look at it, if you read the whole tweet, that is what it said.

01:05:26.000 Okay, well thank you for coming in on your day off.

01:05:28.000 Of course.

01:05:36.000 It's her exercising, folks, and then her phone rings, and naturally... Okay, Jake, so this tweet is actually taken out of context.

01:05:44.000 Of course Mr. Trump thinks that Mexicans can read, and actually, what he wants them to read the most is Hillary Clinton's 33,000 missing emails.

01:05:53.000 Okay, Kellyanne.

01:05:55.000 We good?

01:05:57.000 Sure.

01:05:58.000 Yeah, she's painting back in her yard, having fun.

01:06:09.000 Okay, so this one is simple, Jake.

01:06:11.000 Mr. Trump did the deaf voice at his rally this morning so that deaf people could hear him, too. 0.99

01:06:20.000 Okay, so yes, Mr. Trump did challenge Obama to a penis-off, and if the president would simply produce his penis, we could get back to talking about what's really important, which is jobs. 0.99

01:06:39.000 Yes, he did say that it is gross to watch gay people eat pasta because he wants them to eat healthy foods. 1.00

01:06:46.000 But why even say that, Kellyanne? 0.98

01:06:47.000 Jake, I have to put this ice cream in the freezer.

01:06:52.000 I'm sorry.

01:06:53.000 It's a very funny bit, obviously, because that really is what this campaign is for his surrogates, is what do you do here?

01:06:59.000 What do you do with this? 0.98

01:07:00.000 And now it's, you must all do it or you will perish in the hellfire and damnation of Donald Trump. 0.99

01:07:06.000 Okay, so now, 0.99

01:07:08.000 Now it is time for... You know what?

01:07:11.000 We have one more thing I like because it's been so negative the whole day.

01:07:13.000 We need some things I like.

01:07:14.000 Ken Bone is one of the guys... We had to do Ken Bone.

01:07:16.000 Ken Bone is this studly fellow.

01:07:20.000 He was a questioner at last night's debate and he made all sorts of headlines because this is what he looks like.

01:07:25.000 He looks like a tubby guy with a mustache and he was wearing a red sweater, like a cable knit red sweater that zipped halfway down.

01:07:35.000 He looks like... What's the name of that guy in Rat Race?

01:07:38.000 We're good to go.

01:07:59.000 Yeah, I had a really nice olive suit that I love a great deal, and my mother would have been very proud to see me wearing on television.

01:08:06.000 But apparently I've gained about 30 pounds, and when I went to get in my car the morning of the debate, I split the seat of my pants all the way open.

01:08:13.000 So the red sweater is plan B. I'm glad it worked out.

01:08:17.000 See, that's why people love you on the internet, because you're refreshingly honest.

01:08:23.000 And it's true. 0.56

01:08:24.000 He's become like a thing on the internet.

01:08:26.000 And everybody who's making fun, I would just say this.

01:08:28.000 Ken Bone would make a better president than both of the people who were on stage last night, and it is not close.

01:08:33.000 He's the only person who's honest.

01:08:34.000 He even talks about when he splits the seat of his pants.

01:08:36.000 You can't get him to stop being honest.

01:08:38.000 So there you are.

01:08:40.000 Okay, finally, things I hate.

01:08:47.000 Let me just say this. 0.99

01:08:47.000 Screw you, Hollywood. 0.99

01:08:48.000 Screw you, because you make a big deal out of Donald Trump's tape. 1.00

01:08:51.000 And all you people in Hollywood, a lot of you people do exactly the same kind of stuff Trump does. 1.00

01:08:55.000 You give Oscars to Roman Polanski after raping a 13-year-old, 14-year-old girl. 0.83

01:09:01.000 You give compliments to Woody Allen despite what he allegedly did to his stepdaughter. 0.54

01:09:07.000 You're willing to go

01:09:08.000 The extra mile for Hillary and Bill Clinton who do terrible, awful things to women. 1.00

01:09:12.000 Alec Baldwin does not have a wonderful history with women, it turns out.

01:09:16.000 But he's playing Donald Trump.

01:09:17.000 And by the way, I used to think Alec Baldwin was a good actor, but I don't know what happened to him.

01:09:20.000 I don't know if he hit his head or something.

01:09:21.000 He's playing Donald Trump, and he stinks at it. 0.81

01:09:24.000 I mean, he's really, really bad at it.

01:09:26.000 And this was supposed to be making fun.

01:09:28.000 of the tape from Donald Trump, the Access Hollywood tape. 0.76

01:09:32.000 And here is Alec Baldwin doing truly an awful, truly awful Donald Trump. 0.55

01:09:37.000 I mean, this is borderline worse than my Donald Trump. 0.88

01:09:40.000 Wow.

01:09:40.000 Mr. Trump, this leaked audio showed you saying, you know, I can't quite say it on live television, but basically you said you wanted to grab them by the...

01:10:01.000 Oh, my God.

01:10:05.000 And I would like to take this time to formally apologize.

01:10:09.000 What?

01:10:11.000 What are you saying?

01:10:12.000 I deeply apologize.

01:10:15.000 Are you trying to say apologize?

01:10:18.000 No, I would never do that.

01:10:19.000 What I am doing is apologizing to all the people who were offended by my statements, but more importantly, to the people who were turned on by them.

01:10:29.000 My hair, it's really 50-50.

01:10:33.000 Okay, but Mr. Trump, why would you say these horrible things in the first place?

01:10:38.000 Come on, Brooke. 1.00

01:10:39.000 I was trying to look cool.

01:10:40.000 I mean, what normal red-blooded American doesn't want to impress THE Billy Bush?

01:10:47.000 I don't know.

01:11:05.000 We're good.

01:11:27.000 Well, that's what he is.

01:11:28.000 I mean, and that's who you people are, so you guys really don't get to complain about it.

01:11:31.000 If anybody gets to complain about the lack of standards, then it's me.

01:11:35.000 Because I actually care about standards, and have always cared about standards.

01:11:39.000 So, that takes us to the end of today's show.

01:11:42.000 We will tell you, we will be back tomorrow and tell you more about the Fallout as the chaos continues.

01:11:48.000 I mean, we're now in the full-scale Meltdown chaos mode, and it's tragic.

01:11:52.000 I mean, this is not...

01:11:53.000 No, I'm not.

01:12:10.000 We'll be back tomorrow with more awful pessimism.

01:12:12.000 You don't listen to optimism.

01:12:13.000 Go listen to Clavin's show or go over to Breitbart where they have Fantasyland Trump and he's winning by 13 points and the skies are all blue and everything is wonderful.

01:12:22.000 So, OK, we will be back tomorrow and hopefully we'll have less depressing news for you then.

01:12:26.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

01:12:27.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - October 10, 2016

Ep. 193 - Cage Match: Trump Hammers Hillary

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