The Ben Shapiro Show - October 20, 2016


Ep. 197 - Final Debate: The Apocalypse Approacheth

Topics
Lyft safety deal partial birth abortion economic catastrophe media rigging Dakota Pipeline protests
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Ben Shapiro
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Hillary Clinton Donald Trump Vladimir Putin Chris Wallace Heller Obama James O'Keefe Donna Brazile Al Gore Evan McMullin Hint Water Mike Pence Megan Kelly Ruth Bader Ginsburg George W. Bush Clintons Andrew Kolvet Jeremy Boring John Williams Roland Martin and 13 more
Ep. 196 - Yes, It's Rigged! But Not The Way Trump Thinks. Ep. 198 - Laughing Our Way To Doom

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The 2016 election has become a competition in pursuing new lows. The old lows just don t seem to register anymore. Americans have accepted the Democratic Party as the party of voter fraud and political violence since the 1960s. They've accepted Hillary Clinton as the candidate of manipulation and corruption since the 1990s. Democratic evils are an ever-present source of news and interest, which is terrible for the country. All corruption should be shocking, but the fact it isn't helps explain why the old lows don t register anymore: the new lows are just background noise. Ben Shapiro is a conservative commentator and host of the Ben Shapiro Show on the Fox News Channel. He's also a regular contributor to The Weekly Standard and The Daily Caller and is a frequent contributor to the New York Times, CNN, and the Daily Wire. He's been featured on CNN, CBS, NPR, and many other media outlets. Ben's book, is out now and is available for pre-order on Amazon Prime and Vimeo. If you like what you hear, share it with a friend or become a patron, and/or subscribe to our new podcast, SHIPPERS! Subscribe to our newest podcast, CRUCIAL, wherever you get your favorite podcast listening to podcasts, you'll get 20% off your first month for the rest of the month! discount code SHAPIRO. That's a deal that starts at $10.00 and includes free shipping, plus free shipping throughout the month, plus a free credit upgrade when you sign up for the entire month of the year. You'll get three months of Shippiro and a year, plus an additional $30 discount when you shop at Shippers get $30 and get a maximum of $10 a year and get an ad discount when they redeem their first month, and they get a discount of $30 a year gets $10, plus they get $10 and they also get a chance to redeem their promo code SHOPPROZONE. ShIPPERS gets $30.00 plus they'll get an extra $10% off their first year of the deal starts after they begin shipping that starts shipping that offer starts shipping starts starting at $30, they'll receive $10/month they receive a maximum rate of $50 and they receive $50, they get my $10). and they'll also get free shipping starts after that discount starts in two months and they can get a $10 discount starts $10 in the second month.

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00:00:00.000 There's no question this election cycle has seen a bevy of radical media double standards.
00:00:04.000 Donald Trump's sexual harassment and assault accusers, they've been treated as headline news.
00:00:08.000 Allegations about intimidation of sexual harassment and assault victims by Hillary Clinton, those have been utterly ignored.
00:00:13.000 Trumpian bigotry against a so-called Mexican judge dominated the news cycle for weeks.
00:00:18.000 Clinton-connected bigotry against Catholics went completely unnoticed.
00:00:21.000 We've heard for a full week about a Miss Universe contestant Trump allegedly called Miss Piggy back in 1997 when I was 13 years old.
00:00:28.000 We've heard very little about Hillary Clinton's perverse dealings with the media and the FBI. 1.00
00:00:31.000 We've heard for months about Trump's toxic impact on politics.
00:00:34.000 We've had precious few headlines about the firebombing of a GOP campaign headquarters in North Carolina, or shattered windows at other GOP operations, or the repeated violent attempts to disrupt Trump rallies or hurt Trump fans.
00:00:46.000 Part of this is the allure of novelty.
00:00:48.000 Trump's a new figure in politics.
00:00:50.000 Every bit of information now hitting the newsstand seems fresh.
00:00:52.000 Meanwhile, Hillary's been in the politics for decades, which means every allegation of corruption and nastiness merely reinforces general perceptions about her. 1.00
00:01:00.000 But there's something else afoot here.
00:01:01.000 Most Americans simply expect Democrats to act like Hillary Clinton and to get away with it.
00:01:06.000 Take, for example, the new allegations by James O'Keefe that Clinton-associated parties are involved in promoting voter fraud and violence at Trump rallies.
00:01:13.000 O'Keefe's Project Veritas went undercover with a Democratic operative who openly admitted to encouraging people to rent cars in order to drive to precincts and vote illegally.
00:01:21.000 You use shells, said the operative.
00:01:23.000 You use shell companies.
00:01:23.000 Cars come in from one company.
00:01:25.000 The paychecks come from another.
00:01:26.000 There's no bus involved, so you can't prove it's en masse so it doesn't tip people off," unquote.
00:01:30.000 The operative also admitted to attempting to provoke violence at Trump events, quote, you put people in the line at the front of the line, which means they have to get there at six in the morning because they have to get in front of the rally.
00:01:39.000 So when Trump comes down the rope line, they're the ones asking him the question in front of the reporter because they're pre placed there.
00:01:44.000 The activist admitted a 69 year old woman supposedly beaten up by a Trump supporter was actually working for him.
00:01:50.000 That event generated major national headlines at the time, quote,
00:01:53.000 We're good.
00:02:16.000 Nope.
00:02:16.000 Nope.
00:02:26.000 Now, some of this is due to the media's leftism, but a good deal of it is due to the fact that corruption, regularized over time, simply becomes background noise.
00:02:33.000 Nobody expects anything from Democrats.
00:02:35.000 Americans have accepted the Democratic Party as the party of voter fraud and political violence since the 1960s.
00:02:41.000 They've accepted Hillary Clinton as the candidate of manipulation and corruption since the 1990s. 0.63
00:02:45.000 Democratic evils are normal.
00:02:46.000 Republican evils are an ever-present source of news and interest, which is terrible for the country.
00:02:51.000 All corruption should be shocking.
00:02:53.000 The fact it isn't helps explain why the 2016 election has become a competition in pursuing new lows.
00:02:58.000 The old lows just don't seem to register anymore.
00:03:01.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:03:01.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
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00:04:36.000 Last night was the third and final debate.
00:04:38.000 The apocalypse is finally coming close to an end.
00:04:41.000 We're approaching the end of this routine.
00:04:44.000 And here are some basic overall thoughts on the debate.
00:04:48.000 Number one, everybody sort of gets graded on their own terms, as I've said.
00:04:52.000 Trump gets graded along Trumpian terms.
00:04:54.000 Hillary gets graded along Hillary terms. 0.99
00:04:56.000 If we were to have an objective standard of quality, Trump sucked and so did Hillary. 1.00
00:05:00.000 Any objective standard, they were both garbage. 1.00
00:05:02.000 Hillary's a liar. 1.00
00:05:03.000 Hillary is robotic. 1.00
00:05:04.000 Every so often, Hillary breaks into her evil clown from the woods grin, which means that you know that she's lying. 0.99
00:05:10.000 Trump implodes on a frequent basis because he's a ticking time bomb. 0.94
00:05:13.000 He's sort of like a piece of aluminum you put in the microwave, and every so often, the thing just fries.
00:05:18.000 That's Trump in debate.
00:05:19.000 He doesn't know what he's talking about.
00:05:20.000 Hillary also doesn't know what she's talking about, but she is sort of mechanical in the way she doesn't know what she's talking about. 1.00
00:05:28.000 So it's a fight between two awful, awful human beings. 0.90
00:05:31.000 I would say that Trump won the first third of the debate.
00:05:34.000 Second third of the debate, Trump sort of collapsed over Putin.
00:05:36.000 And final third of the debate, the only thing that matters is the controversy that's dominating the headlines today.
00:05:40.000 This is totally driven by Trump.
00:05:41.000 It's Trump's own fault.
00:05:42.000 All of the headlines last night and this morning are about Trump saying that he's not going to accept the results of the election, or that he may not accept the results of the election.
00:05:49.000 The only reason that was even asked to him is because he spent the last week talking about how the election is rigged.
00:05:54.000 And the reason he spent the last week talking about how the election is rigged is because he knows he's going to lose at this point, and he's trying to convince people the reason he's going to lose is because of the media, and it's because of voter fraud, and it's because of NeverTrump.
00:06:05.000 And so, therefore, in order to fight all those people, he'll need $10 a month from you for Trump TV.
00:06:10.000 And we'll get to the fact.
00:06:13.000 The debate itself, I was slightly surprised by the debate.
00:06:26.000 Number one, I thought Trump performed better than I expected him to.
00:06:29.000 That's number one.
00:06:30.000 I thought that he actually had some good points to make.
00:06:33.000 He always makes them awkwardly, but he made some good points.
00:06:35.000 I thought that he had a couple attacks on Hillary Clinton that were effective.
00:06:38.000 I thought Chris Wallace, the moderator, was spectacular.
00:06:41.000 I thought most of the effective attacks on Hillary Clinton were actually pushed by Chris Wallace, and then Trump followed in his wake because Chris Wallace was asking decent, significant questions of both candidates.
00:06:54.000 Surprising me that Trump didn't completely blow up.
00:06:56.000 I was expecting him, as you know from yesterday's podcast, to turn in a debate performance where he dropped Bill Clinton's illegitimate kid, or alleged illegitimate kid, and went after Hillary Clinton with National Enquirer rumors.
00:07:06.000 That may still happen as we enter the last couple weeks of the election cycle.
00:07:09.000 But he didn't do it last night.
00:07:11.000 And that helps shore up the sort of fading Republican base that is not enthused about him.
00:07:15.000 So that's smart of him.
00:07:16.000 I don't think it won him any new voters.
00:07:18.000 I don't think it won her any new voters.
00:07:19.000 But it's worthy of examination.
00:07:21.000 Because whenever we look at these debates, it's worthy of examining what should have been said, what could have been said, and where people are fibbing, because I think that the truth and facts still matter, even though we're living in a post-truth, post-factual era.
00:07:31.000 So, let's begin.
00:07:32.000 It starts off last night, and Hillary Clinton says that—she's asked about the Supreme Court, and here is Hillary Clinton's awful, awful evil take on what the Supreme Court is supposed to do.
00:07:41.000 We stand up and basically say the Supreme Court should represent all of us.
00:07:47.000 That's how I see the court and the kind of people that I would be looking to nominate to the court would be in the great tradition of standing up to the powerful, standing up on behalf of
00:08:00.000 Okay, this perspective on the court is actually evil.
00:08:04.000 The judicial branch is not designed to quote unquote stand up to the powerful.
00:08:08.000 It's not designed to be in the great tradition of representing all Americans. 0.62
00:08:12.000 It's not a representative body.
00:08:13.000 That's the point of having people appointed for life.
00:08:15.000 The idea for the Supreme Court is it represents the Constitution, not the people.
00:08:18.000 You want a representative body?
00:08:19.000 You look to Congress.
00:08:21.000 You want a representative of the people? 1.00
00:08:22.000 You look to these two crap shows on your screen. 0.98
00:08:24.000 But if you actually want a group of people who are supposed to stand up for the Constitution, that's what the Supreme Court theoretically was for. 0.99
00:08:31.000 I wrote a whole paper.
00:08:32.000 I've been trying to dig it up, folks.
00:08:33.000 I get a lot of questions about this.
00:08:34.000 I've been trying to dig up my paper from law school where I talked about why Marbury v. Madison was a perversion of the Constitutional structure.
00:08:40.000 You know, the idea, at least in theory, is the Supreme Court is supposed to stand up for the text of the Constitution.
00:08:45.000 It's actually, what she's saying here, when I say it's evil, when she says that the courts are supposed to be sort of a super moral legislature standing above us and dictating what's good and bad, that's nasty and it's evil.
00:08:55.000 And when she says that the job of the courts is to stand up to the powerful, that's actually immoral.
00:09:00.000 Okay?
00:09:00.000 The job of the courts is to do justice.
00:09:01.000 It's not to slap down people because they're powerful.
00:09:04.000 Sometimes powerful people are right.
00:09:06.000 Sometimes they're wrong.
00:09:07.000 It's not their job to be Marxist redistributors of justice.
00:09:11.000 So what she's saying here is really quite terrible.
00:09:12.000 Trump gives a pretty good answer by contrast on the Supreme Court.
00:09:15.000 The Supreme Court, it's what it's all about.
00:09:17.000 Our country is so, so, it's just so imperative that we have the right justices.
00:09:24.000 Something happened recently where Justice Ginsburg made some very, very inappropriate statements toward me and toward a tremendous number of people, many, many millions of people that I represent, and she was forced to apologize, and apologize she did.
00:09:41.000 But these were statements
00:09:44.000 We need a Supreme Court that, in my opinion, is going to uphold the Second Amendment, and all amendments, but the Second Amendment, which is under absolute siege.
00:09:53.000 So eventually he got around to saying that he would appoint somebody who would actually interpret the Constitution according to the founder's meaning, which is the proper answer, but not until he gets off his chest that he's mad at Ruth Bader Ginsburg for saying mean things about him.
00:10:05.000 I mean, because this is who our candidates are, because
00:10:08.000 This entire campaign has just been a series of Groundhog Day suicide attempts by the American people.
00:10:16.000 I mean, it's just like we're all jumping in the bathtub and lighting that toaster and tossing it in. 0.96
00:10:20.000 Okay, so Hillary Clinton is a congenital liar, so she's decided to lie about the Second Amendment at that point. 1.00
00:10:25.000 Here's what she said about the Heller versus D.C. 0.96
00:10:27.000 decision.
00:10:28.000 You mentioned the Heller decision and what I was saying that you referenced, Chris, was that I disagreed with the way the court applied the Second Amendment in that case.
00:10:38.000 Because what the District of Columbia was trying to do was to protect toddlers from guns.
00:10:45.000 And so they wanted people with guns to safely store them.
00:10:49.000 And the court
00:10:51.000 Didn't accept that reasonable regulation, but they've accepted many others.
00:10:54.000 So I see no conflict between saving people's lives and defending the Second Amendment. 0.99
00:10:59.000 Okay, fact check, a bunch of crap. 0.62
00:11:01.000 It's a 110 page decision, the Heller v. D.C. 0.96
00:11:03.000 decision.
00:11:04.000 It never once mentions toddlers.
00:11:06.000 The entire decision is about the idea that individuals do have the right to keep and bear arms.
00:11:11.000 And that you can't force somebody to lock up a gun in their own home.
00:11:14.000 And the person who actually filed the lawsuit in DC vs. Heller was a 66-year-old retired policeman, not a guy with a toddler.
00:11:19.000 So, she's just making things up now because it's convenient for her politically. 1.00
00:11:23.000 Now, what would have been nice is if we had a nominee who knew that.
00:11:25.000 Unfortunately, we have a nominee who barely knows how to spell his own name.
00:11:28.000 So, here was Donald Trump's rebuttal of this.
00:11:31.000 Well, the D.C.
00:11:32.000 v. Heller decision was very strongly, and she was extremely angry about it.
00:11:38.000 I watched.
00:11:38.000 I mean, she was very, very angry, went upheld.
00:11:41.000 And Justice Scalia was so involved, and it was a well-crafted decision.
00:11:47.000 Okay, so he just says upset and angry over and over and over and we're supposed to think that's a wonderful response.
00:11:52.000 This is the problem.
00:12:02.000 It's
00:12:32.000 We're good.
00:12:54.000 Never, at any time that I can remember, has a moderator ever asked a Democrat about partial birth abortion.
00:13:00.000 Chris Wallace actually did, and Trump didn't do a very good job of slamming her over it.
00:13:05.000 It was pretty weak tea.
00:13:06.000 It also doesn't help that Donald Trump has a very weak pro-life record over the last 15 years.
00:13:10.000 He went from, yes, partial birth abortion should be legal, to we should punish women for abortion. 0.99
00:13:15.000 He doesn't know anything about the issue, and that was obvious here.
00:13:18.000 Even his answer here was very weak on abortion.
00:13:19.000 Here's Chris Wallace talking about Roe v. Wade.
00:13:22.000 Do you want the court, including the justices that you will name, to overturn Roe v. Wade, which includes, in fact states, a woman's right to abortion?
00:13:32.000 Well, if that would happen, because I am pro-life, and I will be appointing pro-life judges, I would think that that will go back to the individual states.
00:13:40.000 But I'm asking you specifically, would you like— If they overturned it, it'll go back to the states.
00:13:44.000 But what I'm asking you, sir, is, do you want to see the court overturn?
00:13:47.000 You just said you want to see the court protect the Second Amendment.
00:13:50.000 Do you want to see the court overturn Roe v. Wade?
00:13:54.000 Another two or perhaps three justices on, that's really what's going to be, that will happen.
00:13:59.000 And that'll happen automatically, in my opinion, because I am putting pro-life justices on the court.
00:14:05.000 I will say this, it will go back to the states and the states will then make a determination.
00:14:10.000 Okay, for people who actually care about things like pro-life, it'll go back to the states is not a good answer, okay?
00:14:15.000 I don't want states green-lighting late-term abortion either. 1.00
00:14:19.000 He's right, that's what Roe v. Wade does, but that's not the question.
00:14:21.000 Alright, the proper answer here is Roe v. Wade is a moral and legal abomination.
00:14:25.000 I will appoint justices who will overturn it on the grounds that the Constitution never guarantees anybody's right to kill a child in the womb.
00:14:33.000 End of story.
00:14:34.000 End of story.
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00:16:03.000 Okay, so Hillary Clinton was asked about partial birth abortion. 1.00
00:16:06.000 Here's Hillary Clinton saying something deeply wrong and evil because she's a Democrat and that's what a lot of Democrats do. 1.00
00:16:11.000 You have been quoted as saying that the fetus has no constitutional rights.
00:16:17.000 You also voted against a ban on late-term partial birth abortions.
00:16:23.000 Why?
00:16:24.000 Because Roe v. Wade very clearly sets out that there can be regulations on abortion so long as the life and the health of the mother are taken into account.
00:16:39.000 And when I voted as a senator, I did not think that that was the case.
00:16:44.000 The kinds of cases that fall at the end of pregnancy are often the most heartbreaking, painful decisions for families to make.
00:16:54.000 She goes along these lines talking about, these are heartbreaking, painful decisions.
00:16:57.000 I'm sorry, but when you kill a baby at term, that is not a heartbreaking, painful decision.
00:17:02.000 That is an act of moral cowardice and evil.
00:17:05.000 You can't define away babies.
00:17:06.000 I've seen two of them born at term.
00:17:09.000 I've seen both my kids.
00:17:11.000 And it is a miracle, and those are babies.
00:17:13.000 I mean, they come out, and those are human beings.
00:17:15.000 And that's what Trump should say.
00:17:17.000 Instead, what Trump says is something that's just—it doesn't mean anything.
00:17:21.000 Like, it's evocative language, but it doesn't mean anything, because he doesn't know enough to say it.
00:17:24.000 People were praising this last night.
00:17:26.000 If you have one opportunity to make the pro-life argument on late-term abortion, and this is the best you can do, it's not a good answer, because of what Hillary Clinton replies.
00:17:34.000 I mean, this is—here it is.
00:17:37.000 Mr. Trump, your reaction, and particularly on this issue of late-term partial birth.
00:17:40.000 Well, I think it's terrible.
00:17:42.000 If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother, just prior to the birth of the baby.
00:17:54.000 Now, you can say that that's OK, and Hillary can say that that's OK, but it's not OK with me.
00:18:01.000 Because based on what she's saying and based on where she's going and where she's been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month, on the final day.
00:18:13.000 And that's not acceptable.
00:18:15.000 And then Hillary responds this way. 0.99
00:18:18.000 Well, that is not what happens in these cases.
00:18:20.000 And using that kind of
00:18:22.000 That scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate.
00:18:26.000 You should meet with some of the women that I've met with, women I've known over the course of my life.
00:18:31.000 This is one of the worst possible choices that any woman and her family has to make. 1.00
00:18:38.000 And I do not believe the government should be making it.
00:18:41.000 Okay, again, this is—the fact that Trump was not able to make the moral case here in stronger language, actually, it makes my stomach hurt.
00:18:48.000 It's—I mean, she's making a moral argument that this is a difficult decision for women, the government shouldn't be involved. 0.99
00:18:55.000 How can he not say at any time, this is a fully formed child, and you're talking about redefining it as not human, simply so that you can kill it?
00:19:03.000 That's not about making a difficult decision.
00:19:05.000 That's about denying the reality of a human being's life for whatever reason you seek.
00:19:10.000 And it doesn't matter what your reasons are.
00:19:11.000 Once you're talking about taking a baby and pulling it by the feet into the birth canal, this is what partial birth abortion is, and then jabbing a scissors into its skull, jabbing a hole up there, and then sucking its brains out because you want to pretend that that's not a child. 0.56
00:19:24.000 And we know that that is a child.
00:19:26.000 If you want to do that and say that that's okay, that is an act of deep moral evil. 0.97
00:19:30.000 It's disgusting.
00:19:31.000 And for you to sit there and pretend that there's a right in the Constitution of the United States to do that simply because you're a woman, or simply because you feel like it, is denying the humanity of the other. 0.91
00:19:41.000 And you say that you want to protect people?
00:19:42.000 Why don't you start with the most innocent people there are?
00:19:45.000 Babies that are in the womb. 0.73
00:19:47.000 Why don't you start there?
00:19:48.000 For him not to be able to say that, again, that's not a complex argument.
00:19:50.000 That's something I think that he could say.
00:19:52.000 Instead, he talks about the graphic nature.
00:19:54.000 Take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb. 1.00
00:19:56.000 He's not even talking about killing the baby, right?
00:19:58.000 I mean, you know, like, when he says, take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb, he could be talking about a c-section, for God's sake. 1.00
00:20:03.000 It's just, it's, it's stupid language. 1.00
00:20:05.000 And again, it's, it's a blown opportunity. 1.00
00:20:07.000 And I feel like this entire election is a blown opportunity.
00:20:10.000 It's really, it's really just, it makes you a little bit, it makes me very upset.
00:20:15.000 I mean, if this had been a debate with anybody,
00:20:18.000 With the capacity to make these arguments, Hillary would have been toast, and it wasn't. 0.97
00:20:23.000 It's very upsetting.
00:20:24.000 But that was not the high point or the low point for Trump.
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00:21:06.000 Okay, so after the abortion issue, which again, that really upset me because I think a lot of people thought, well, you know, Trump did a wonderful job.
00:21:12.000 Trump did a wonderful job with the abortion question.
00:21:15.000 I thought it was a really—I mean, you get that opportunity once every 30 years to make that argument in front of 70 million people.
00:21:21.000 That's how many people watched.
00:21:22.000 And instead, you just say, rip the baby out of the womb, and then she makes the argument that this is the hardest decision anyone has to make. 0.98
00:21:27.000 Not describing the humanity of the child is such a—it's such a simple point, and it's just—it's pathetic. 0.98
00:21:33.000 Okay. 0.85
00:21:34.000 Then they move on to an area where Trump is more comfortable, and that is on immigration.
00:21:38.000 So Trump—you can tell where he's more comfortable.
00:21:40.000 He gets more enthusiastic.
00:21:41.000 He's not comfortable on abortion.
00:21:42.000 He's comfortable on immigration.
00:21:43.000 Here's Trump talking about amnesty.
00:21:45.000 Well, first of all, she wants to give amnesty, which is a disaster and very unfair to all of the people that are waiting in line for many, many years.
00:21:52.000 We need strong borders.
00:21:54.000 In the audience tonight, we have four mothers of — I mean, these are unbelievable people that I've gotten to know over a period of years whose children have been killed, brutally killed, by people that came into the country illegally. 0.83
00:22:07.000 You have thousands of mothers and fathers and relatives all over the country.
00:22:12.000 Okay, so he says that he does this routine well.
00:22:15.000 Then, Chris Wallace does the job that Trump should be doing.
00:22:18.000 He starts attacking Hillary Clinton.
00:22:21.000 Secretary Clinton, I want to clear up your position on this issue because in a speech you gave to a Brazilian bank for which you were paid $225,000, we've learned from the WikiLeaks that you said this, and I want to quote,
00:22:45.000 My dream is a hemispheric common market with open trade and open borders.
00:22:50.000 So, that's the question.
00:22:54.000 That's the question.
00:22:54.000 Please quiet, everybody.
00:22:56.000 Is that your dream?
00:22:57.000 Okay, why can't Trump just shut it? 0.91
00:22:59.000 Like, really, why doesn't he just shut up there?
00:23:01.000 He finally gets a question that helps him dramatically, and he says thank you to the moderator, which makes it appear as though the moderator is now biased in favor of Trump.
00:23:09.000 It's just, it's just, he can't control himself.
00:23:11.000 But here's Hillary Clinton's really terrible and lying answer, and she lies here. 0.99
00:23:15.000 I mean, this is a lie.
00:23:17.000 Well, if you went on to read the rest of the sentence, I was talking about energy.
00:23:22.000 You know, we trade more energy with our neighbors than we trade with the rest of the world combined.
00:23:28.000 And I do want us to have an electric grid, an energy system that crosses borders.
00:23:34.000 I think that would be a great benefit to us.
00:23:36.000 But you are very clearly quoting from WikiLeaks, and what's really important about WikiLeaks is that the Russian government
00:23:46.000 Putin has engaged in espionage against Americans.
00:23:50.000 They have hacked American websites, American accounts of private people, of institutions.
00:23:58.000 Then they have given that information to WikiLeaks for the purpose of putting it on the Internet.
00:24:05.000 This has come from the highest levels of the Russian government, clearly from Putin himself, in an effort
00:24:11.000 Thank you.
00:24:28.000 And make it clear that he will not have the help of Putin in this election, that he rejects Russian espionage against Americans, which he actually encouraged in the past.
00:24:42.000 Those are the questions we need answered.
00:24:44.000 We've never had anything like this happen in any of our elections before.
00:24:47.000 That was a great pivot off the fact that she wants open borders, okay?
00:24:52.000 How did we get onto Putin?
00:24:54.000 Hold on.
00:24:54.000 Okay, that's a great line by Trump, and of course it's exactly true.
00:24:57.000 Hillary's asked about open borders, and suddenly she's talking about WikiLeaks and the Russians.
00:25:01.000 Now, this would be a perfect opportunity for Donald Trump to respond by going back to open borders, which he does for a little while, and then saying, you know, Hillary seems deeply concerned about WikiLeaks and their hacking of American institutions.
00:25:12.000 And I'm concerned as well.
00:25:13.000 I think that it's bad when foreign powers are capable of hacking our institutions. 1.00
00:25:19.000 Right?
00:25:19.000 I think that's bad.
00:25:20.000 Which is why I think it's ridiculous that Hillary Clinton had a private server that made her emails possible to hack, where she put classified information, allowing our enemies the capacity to get a hold of information. 0.99
00:25:30.000 And we know that WikiLeaks hacked all of her friends.
00:25:32.000 There's no reason to think that her server wasn't hacked as well.
00:25:36.000 The FBI said they don't know whether it was hacked.
00:25:37.000 She'll tell you that the FBI didn't say it was, but the FBI actually said they don't know whether it was hacked or not.
00:25:43.000 And we may never know whether it was hacked or not, but Hillary pretending that she cares about 1.00
00:25:47.000 Cyber security is insane, given what she was willing to do to compromise America's cyber security, right?
00:25:52.000 That's the proper answer here.
00:25:53.000 Instead, Trump talks about open borders for a minute, and then he blows himself up.
00:25:58.000 And the way he blows himself up is he feels the necessity to defend his good friend Vladimir Putin.
00:26:02.000 And it's just—I mean, this is truly off-the-rails stuff from Trump.
00:26:05.000 This got overlooked in the aftermath of this debate because everybody's focused on whether he'll accept the results of the election.
00:26:10.000 We'll get to that in a second.
00:26:11.000 But here is the moment that I thought was the worst moment for Trump.
00:26:14.000 Here is Donald Trump defending the Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, who is legitimately one of the worst people on planet Earth.
00:26:20.000 She wants open borders, now we can talk about Putin.
00:26:23.000 I don't know Putin.
00:26:24.000 He said nice things about me.
00:26:25.000 If we got along well, that would be good.
00:26:28.000 If Russia and the United States got along well and went after ISIS, that would be good. 0.97
00:26:33.000 He has no respect for her.
00:26:35.000 He has no respect for our president.
00:26:38.000 And I'll tell you what, we're in very serious trouble.
00:26:40.000 Because we have a country with tremendous numbers of nuclear warheads.
00:26:46.000 1,800, by the way, where they expanded and we didn't.
00:26:51.000 1,800 nuclear warheads, and she's playing chicken. 1.00
00:26:54.000 Look, Putin, from everything I see, has no respect for this person.
00:27:01.000 Well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president of the United States.
00:27:07.000 It's pretty clear you won't admit that the Russians have engaged in cyber attacks against the United States of America, that you encouraged 0.96
00:27:16.000 espionage against our people, that you are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do, and that you continue to get help from him because he has a very clear favorite in this race.
00:27:36.000 So I think that this is such an unprecedented situation.
00:27:42.000 So she continues to hit him on this, and here's Donald Trump continuing to defend Vladimir Putin.
00:27:47.000 I never met Putin.
00:27:48.000 This is not my best friend.
00:27:50.000 But if the United States got along with Russia, wouldn't be so bad.
00:27:54.000 Let me tell you, Putin has outsmarted her and Obama at every single step of the way, whether it's Syria, you name it, missiles.
00:28:03.000 Take a look at the startup that they signed.
00:28:06.000 The Russians have said, according to many, many reports, I can't believe they allowed us to do this.
00:28:12.000 They create warheads, and we can't.
00:28:15.000 The Russians can't believe it.
00:28:16.000 She has been outsmarted by Putin, and all you have to do is look at the Middle East.
00:28:20.000 They've taken over.
00:28:21.000 We've spent $6 trillion.
00:28:23.000 They've taken over the Middle East. 1.00
00:28:25.000 She has been outsmarted and outplayed worse than anybody I've ever seen in any government whatsoever.
00:28:32.000 Okay, and so there he is, and he says, you know, again, defending Putin, and then he levies an attack on her, right?
00:28:38.000 That we've spent $6 billion and they've taken over the Middle East, and then he says that the State Department wasted a lot of money.
00:28:45.000 And Trump kept—one of the things that Trump did—first of all, she's giving the death grin, right?
00:28:48.000 Here's the deathhead's grin that I've talked about before, where she's very upset because he's criticizing her rightly, and they have been outsmarted by Putin, he's correct on this. 0.89
00:28:56.000 Two things can happen at once.
00:28:58.000 One, he can pathologically defend Vladimir Putin because he thinks Vladimir Putin is his friend.
00:29:02.000 And second, Hillary Clinton can have a terrible Russia policy because she does have a terrible Russia policy. 1.00
00:29:08.000 But one of the things that's so frustrating about this is Donald Trump was nominated because people thought he was going to attack, right?
00:29:14.000 Attack, attack, attack.
00:29:15.000 He fights.
00:29:16.000 He fights.
00:29:16.000 It's all we heard during the primaries.
00:29:17.000 He fights.
00:29:18.000 The problem with Trump
00:29:19.000 We're good.
00:29:37.000 Drill down.
00:29:38.000 OK, Hillary, well, if that's true, then why this?
00:29:40.000 If that's true, then why this?
00:29:41.000 If that's true, then will you disown this?
00:29:43.000 He doesn't know how to go on the offense and sustain the attack.
00:29:45.000 So instead, it's a punch and then a counterpunch, and a punch and a counterpunch.
00:29:48.000 And so everything looks like it's kind of evenly staked because he's incapable of doing anything beyond the 15-second sound bite.
00:29:55.000 And when you have a long debate like this, a long-form 90-minute debate, and I do them all the time, when you have a long-form debate, the best thing that you can do is go on the attack and stay on the attack and prosecute the case.
00:30:05.000 Trump's not a prosecutor.
00:30:06.000 He's a counterpuncher, and that really showed.
00:30:08.000 Okay.
00:30:09.000 Well, one thing that's true about Hillary Clinton is she obviously has no idea why she wants to be president or what she's going to do when she is president. 1.00
00:30:15.000 Chris Wallace asked her about her economic plans as Clip 15, and she's got nothing. 0.96
00:30:21.000 Now, you told me in July when we spoke that the problem is that President Obama didn't get to do enough in what he was trying to do with his stimulus.
00:30:29.000 So is your plan basically more, even more of the Obama stimulus?
00:30:34.000 Well, it's a combination, Chris.
00:30:36.000 And let me say that when you inherit the level of economic catastrophe that President Obama inherited,
00:30:45.000 It was a real touch and go situation.
00:30:48.000 I was in the Senate before I became Secretary of State.
00:30:51.000 I've never seen people as physically distraught as the Bush administration team was because of what was happening to the economy.
00:31:01.000 I personally believe that the steps that President Obama took
00:31:06.000 Because if it is, I should win easily.
00:31:08.000 It was so bad.
00:31:09.000 The report was so bad.
00:31:09.000 Look, our country is stagnant.
00:31:10.000 We've lost our jobs.
00:31:11.000 We've lost our businesses.
00:31:36.000 We're not making things anymore, relatively speaking.
00:31:40.000 Our product is pouring in from China, pouring in from Vietnam, pouring in from all over the world.
00:31:45.000 I've visited so many communities.
00:31:46.000 This has been such an incredible education for me, Chris.
00:31:49.000 I've gotten to know so many.
00:31:51.000 I've developed so many friends over the last year.
00:31:54.000 And they cry when they see what's happened.
00:31:56.000 I passed factories that were thriving 20, 25 years ago.
00:31:59.000 And because of the bill that her husband signed, and she blessed 100 percent,
00:32:04.000 It is just horrible what's happened to these people in these communities.
00:32:08.000 Now, she can say that her husband did well, but boy, did they suffer as NAFTA kicked in, because it didn't really kick in very much.
00:32:16.000 Okay, so he talks about free trade, and that's the only thing he cares about when it comes to the economy.
00:32:19.000 Now, all of this is sort of typical policy talk, except that Trump doesn't know what he's talking about, and Hillary only has warmed over leftism to propose, so that's why it's such a terrible debate.
00:32:28.000 But the part that's actually going to hurt Trump coming out of this debate is, first off, the talk about all of these women. 0.94
00:32:36.000 So, let's go to clip 19.
00:32:38.000 This is where Donald Trump is asked specifically about the sexual assault allegations, and here is his not very good answer.
00:32:44.000 Well first of all, those stories have been largely debunked.
00:32:48.000 Those people, I don't know those people.
00:32:50.000 I have a feeling how they came.
00:32:51.000 I believe it was her campaign that did it.
00:32:53.000 Just like if you look at what came out today on the clips, where I was wondering what happened with my rally in Chicago and other rallies where we had such violence.
00:33:04.000 She's the one in Obama that caused the violence.
00:33:07.000 They hired people, they paid them $1,500, and they're on tape saying, be violent, cause fights, do bad things.
00:33:15.000 I would say the only way, because those stories are all totally false.
00:33:18.000 I have to say that.
00:33:20.000 And I didn't even apologize to my wife, who's sitting right here, because I didn't do anything.
00:33:25.000 I didn't know any of these women. 1.00
00:33:27.000 I didn't see these women. 1.00
00:33:29.000 These women, the woman on the plane, the woman... I think they want either fame or her campaign did it. 1.00
00:33:35.000 And I think it's her campaign.
00:33:36.000 Because what I saw, what they did, which is a criminal act, by the way, where they're telling people to go out and start fistfights and start violence.
00:33:45.000 And I'll tell you what.
00:33:47.000 In particular, in Chicago, people were hurt and people could have been killed in that riot.
00:33:51.000 Okay, if you can follow what he's saying here, you're beyond me.
00:33:54.000 I mean, really, he's all over the place.
00:33:56.000 He's trying to conflate the James O'Keefe tapes in which surrogates for Hillary Clinton, people associated with Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee, admitted to being involved in spurring and attempting to create violence at Donald Trump rallies in order to grant the image to the media that Donald Trump was the violent one, and Hillary Clinton still hasn't announced any of those people.
00:34:16.000 Yeah, he's trying to conflate that with the sex assault allegations.
00:34:18.000 Now, these are two separate issues, number one.
00:34:19.000 Conflating them does nobody any good.
00:34:21.000 And all this does is because, I mean, like, when he says things like this, and this is a direct quote, I believe it was her campaign that did it, just like if you look at what came out today on the clips, where I was wondering what happened with my rally in Chicago and other rallies where we had such violence, period.
00:34:36.000 Does that mean anything?
00:34:38.000 What is on the clips?
00:34:39.000 Is that a source?
00:34:41.000 The problem for Trump, and my managing editor at Daily Wire, Jeremy Boring, said this the other day, and he's totally right.
00:34:47.000 Trump speaks in headlines.
00:34:48.000 He speaks in political shorthands.
00:34:50.000 He just throws out things, and he assumes you know the rest.
00:34:52.000 So I know the rest of the James O'Keefe story.
00:34:54.000 You know the rest of the James O'Keefe story, because you've been watching the podcast and listening to the news.
00:34:58.000 But for most Americans, they have no idea what he's talking about.
00:35:01.000 It just sounds like ranting and raving.
00:35:03.000 You started the violence at my rallies.
00:35:04.000 You set up all these women to come after me. 0.99
00:35:06.000 And I know so because I saw the clips.
00:35:08.000 What are the clips?
00:35:09.000 We don't know.
00:35:09.000 Trump doesn't say.
00:35:11.000 Right? 0.98
00:35:11.000 This is why it's incompetent. 0.98
00:35:12.000 So instead, Hillary Clinton gets her shining moment in the sun. 0.57
00:35:15.000 Hillary's been wanting this entire election cycle. 1.00
00:35:18.000 She wants the moment where you get the music swelling in the background, right?
00:35:21.000 If all election cycles are a movie, she wants that movie moment where you get the rich John Williams score in the background with the chimes and everything and the backlit shot of her as she ascends to the podium and she gives this speech about why women have it rough. 1.00
00:35:37.000 Here's Hillary Clinton talking in response to all of this. 0.99
00:35:41.000 Well, at the last debate, we heard Donald talking about what he did to women.
00:35:49.000 And after that, a number of women have come forward saying that's exactly what he did to them.
00:35:56.000 Now, what was his response?
00:35:58.000 Well, he held a number of big rallies where he said that he could not possibly have done those things to those women because they were not attractive enough for them to be assaulted.
00:36:10.000 I did not say that.
00:36:11.000 I did not say that.
00:36:12.000 In fact, he went on to say... Her two minutes, sir.
00:36:16.000 Her two minutes. 0.52
00:36:16.000 But did not say that. 0.52
00:36:17.000 It's her two minutes.
00:36:19.000 He went on to say, look at her, I don't think so, about another woman. 0.98
00:36:25.000 He said, that wouldn't be my first choice.
00:36:28.000 He attacked the woman reporter writing the story, called her disgusting as he has called a number of women during this campaign. 0.78
00:36:38.000 Donald thinks belittling women makes him bigger.
00:36:42.000 He goes after their dignity, their self-worth, and I don't think there is a woman anywhere who doesn't know what that feels like.
00:36:51.000 Cut it off there.
00:36:52.000 End of campaign commercial, right?
00:36:53.000 That's the campaign commercial right there.
00:36:54.000 That's what she wants.
00:36:56.000 And Donald Trump handed it to her.
00:36:57.000 Now, Chris Wallace, what was amazing about this is Chris Wallace asked a question where he basically told Trump what to say.
00:37:03.000 He said, the question that preceded this was, Mr. Trump, there have been sexual assault allegations about you and there have been allegations that Hillary Clinton intimidated sexual assault survivors.
00:37:12.000 Right?
00:37:12.000 So that's the opening.
00:37:13.000 So what Trump should say here is he should say, these stories are false.
00:37:17.000 I don't know where they're coming from.
00:37:18.000 I have to admit, I'm as bewildered as you are that these allegations are being made.
00:37:25.000 What I can tell you is that allegations have been made about Hillary Clinton intimidating her husband's sexual assault victims.
00:37:30.000 And those allegations are very real.
00:37:32.000 And I've sat next to those women and see how they've suffered, right?
00:37:34.000 I mean, that's how you play the game. 0.91
00:37:35.000 But Trump is so busy being defensive and being crazy that he doesn't know what to do.
00:37:40.000 And instead, he grants Hillary this big moment where she gets to pretend that she represents all women, which, by the way, she doesn't. 1.00
00:37:45.000 She's a heretic. 1.00
00:37:46.000 I mean, Hillary Clinton is an awful, awful human being. 1.00
00:37:48.000 She does indeed, at least according to allegations, attack her husband's sexual assault and harassment victims. 1.00
00:37:54.000 She belittles them.
00:37:56.000 Everything that she's saying about Trump is true of Hillary Clinton, but she gets to play the wronged woman here, which is all that she wants in life. 1.00
00:38:02.000 That's all that she wants in life.
00:38:03.000 And it's clear, I mean, this is what's so frustrating, it's so clear from this debate that Hillary could have been had.
00:38:08.000 It's so clear from this debate that Hillary, you know, has nothing, that she can't defend herself. 0.99
00:38:12.000 Look at clip 22.
00:38:12.000 Okay, Chris Wallace takes her apart with literally, with literally 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 words.
00:38:19.000 We have 10 words Chris Wallace takes Hillary Clinton apart. 1.00
00:38:22.000 Here it is.
00:38:23.000 Why isn't it what Mr. Trump calls pay to play?
00:38:26.000 Well, everything I did as Secretary of State was in furtherance of our country's interests and our values.
00:38:33.000 The State Department has said that.
00:38:35.000 I think that's been proven.
00:38:36.000 But I am happy.
00:38:37.000 In fact, I am thrilled to talk about the Clinton Foundation, because it is a world-renowned charity.
00:38:43.000 And I am so proud of the work that it does.
00:38:46.000 You know, I could talk for the rest of the debate.
00:38:48.000 I know I don't have the time to do that.
00:38:50.000 But just briefly,
00:38:52.000 The Clinton Foundation made it possible for 11 million people around the world with HIV AIDS to afford treatment and that's about half of all the people in the world who are getting treatment in partnership with the American Health Association.
00:39:07.000 And then Wallace follows up and then Trump hits her with this.
00:39:10.000 This was the best moment of the debate for Trump.
00:39:12.000 I mean people were saying a lot about it.
00:39:13.000 This was the best moment of the debate for Trump.
00:39:15.000 Trump's response on the Clinton Foundation.
00:39:17.000 It's a criminal enterprise, Saudi Arabia giving $25 million, Qatar, all of these countries.
00:39:24.000 You talk about women and women's rights? 0.94
00:39:26.000 So, these are people that push gays off business, off buildings. 0.98
00:39:31.000 These are people that kill women and treat women horribly, and yet you take their money. 0.88
00:39:37.000 So I'd like to ask you right now, why don't you give back the money that you've taken from certain countries that treat certain groups of people
00:39:46.000 So horribly.
00:39:47.000 Why don't you give back the money?
00:39:48.000 I think it would be a great gesture.
00:39:50.000 Because she takes a tremendous amount of money, and you take a look at the people of Haiti.
00:39:55.000 I was in a little Haiti the other day in Florida, and I want to tell you, they hate the Clintons.
00:40:01.000 Because what's happened in Haiti with the Clinton Foundation is a disgrace.
00:40:07.000 And you know it, and they know it, and everybody knows it. 0.95
00:40:10.000 Okay, and he's totally right, and you can see her giving again that crazy clown grin because she knows that she's Minhat. 1.00
00:40:14.000 Okay, so all of this leading up to this is all the preface.
00:40:17.000 Then we finally get to the only point that matters.
00:40:20.000 There's a lot of other stuff in this debate.
00:40:21.000 People discussing policy badly, not knowing what they're talking about.
00:40:24.000 But here's the one that's making all the headlines.
00:40:26.000 Here's Donald Trump talking specifically.
00:40:28.000 He's asked now, will you accept the results of the election?
00:40:31.000 And Donald Trump on national TV in front of 70 million people essentially says no.
00:40:35.000 I will look at it at the time.
00:40:37.000 I'm not looking at anything now.
00:40:38.000 I'll look at it at the time.
00:40:40.000 What I've seen, what I've seen is so bad.
00:40:43.000 First of all, the media is so dishonest and so corrupt and the pylon is so amazing.
00:40:49.000 The New York Times actually wrote an article about it that they don't even care.
00:40:53.000 It's so dishonest, and they've poisoned the minds of the voters.
00:40:56.000 But unfortunately for them, I think the voters are seeing through it.
00:41:00.000 I think they're going to see through it.
00:41:01.000 We'll find out on November 8th, but I think they're going to see through it.
00:41:04.000 But sir, there's a... If you look, excuse me Chris, if you look at your voter rolls, you will see millions of people that are registered to vote.
00:41:12.000 Millions.
00:41:13.000 This isn't coming from me.
00:41:14.000 This is coming from Pew Report and other places.
00:41:17.000 Millions of people that are registered to vote that shouldn't be registered to vote.
00:41:24.000 Let me just give you one other thing.
00:41:25.000 I talk about the corrupt media.
00:41:27.000 I talk about the millions of people.
00:41:28.000 I'll tell you one other thing.
00:41:30.000 She shouldn't be allowed to run.
00:41:33.000 She's guilty of a very, very serious crime.
00:41:37.000 She should not be allowed to run.
00:41:40.000 And just in that respect, I say it's rigged.
00:41:44.000 Because she should never have been allowed to run for the presidency based on what she did with emails and so many other things. 0.95
00:41:53.000 But, sir, there is a tradition in this country, in fact, one of the prides of this country, is the peaceful transition of power, and that no matter how hard-fought a campaign is, that at the end of the campaign, that the loser concedes to the winner.
00:42:07.000 Not saying that you're necessarily going to be the loser or the winner, but that the loser concedes to the winner, and that the country comes together in part for the good of the country.
00:42:17.000 Are you saying you're not prepared now to commit to that principle?
00:42:19.000 What I'm saying is that I will tell you at the time.
00:42:21.000 I'll keep you in suspense.
00:42:23.000 Well, Chris.
00:42:43.000 You know, Chris, if it's a very close election, we've seen the Democrats are willing to cheat in close elections like Al Franken's election in Minnesota, or the election for Stringer-Aguirre, as we discussed yesterday on the program, in Washington state, or even in 1960 in the Nixon-Kennedy election.
00:42:56.000 We've seen Democrats are willing to use voter fraud in order to defeat Republicans in close elections.
00:43:03.000 If something happens like that,
00:43:04.000 No, I'm not willing to concede without a full investigation.
00:43:07.000 However, if we're talking about a normal election where none of that activity takes place, of course I'm happy to concede, because that's the reality, is that if you lose, you lose, right?
00:43:15.000 I mean, that's the proper answer here.
00:43:17.000 That's not the answer Donald Trump gives.
00:43:18.000 Instead, he says he's going to keep you in suspense.
00:43:20.000 He followed that up today, by the way, with this supposed laugh line, this clip 39, where he's at a rally, and here's the line he drops.
00:43:29.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I want to make a major announcement today.
00:43:37.000 I would like to promise and pledge to all of my voters and supporters and to all of the people of the United States that I will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election if I win.
00:44:06.000 Right, and there's his joke.
00:44:08.000 He won't accept it if he loses, right, is the implication.
00:44:10.000 Then he comes out later and he sort of clarifies, well, maybe I'll accept the results of the election.
00:44:14.000 Okay, the reason that he's playing this game, folks, has nothing to do with winning or losing the election.
00:44:18.000 What it has to do with is now he's again trying to portray himself as the victim of rigging.
00:44:23.000 Not just political rigging, but media rigging.
00:44:26.000 And the only solution, it turns out, after he loses the election, which he probably will, it would take a near miracle politically for him to survive,
00:44:32.000 The thing that he's looking forward to is fixing the rigged system.
00:44:35.000 How's he going to fix this media rigged system?
00:44:37.000 Well, you'll have to spend $10 a month at Trump TV to find out.
00:44:40.000 So, this is in the things I hate section, but it is real.
00:44:44.000 Here's Donald Trump talking about, this is right before the debate, he actually launches, I think this is on his Facebook feed, he launches what is an early iteration of Trump TV, hair and unbalanced.
00:44:55.000 Total home runs for him.
00:44:56.000 I think this was really the performance that Donald Trump needed to grab that momentum going toward election day.
00:45:02.000 We just got a few weeks left here.
00:45:04.000 Tonight was a performance that we were all hoping for.
00:45:06.000 Right.
00:45:06.000 The atmosphere in the- Electric, electric, electric.
00:45:09.000 I can only imagine what it was like in the room.
00:45:12.000 But I'm telling you, you go point by point, he knocked it out of the park.
00:45:14.000 What did you see tonight that really stuck out to you?
00:45:16.000 She prosecuted the case against Hillary Clinton perfectly. 0.54
00:45:19.000 The criminal enterprise of the Clintons.
00:45:20.000 Okay, well it was like this the whole night, right?
00:45:22.000 So does this look like a TV channel to you?
00:45:23.000 It looks like a TV channel to me.
00:45:24.000 This is Trump's big plan.
00:45:25.000 So he says it's rigged, it's rigged, it's rigged, it's rigged.
00:45:27.000 The election happens, he loses.
00:45:29.000 He says the media rigged it against me.
00:45:31.000 What do we need?
00:45:31.000 We need a new media outlet that will only cost you $10 a month.
00:45:34.000 I mean, it's the greatest snake oil pitch in history.
00:45:37.000 So that's what Trump is up to here.
00:45:39.000 For Democrats to whine about the idea that Trump won't accept the election results, it's just kind of absurd given the fact that Democrats still don't accept the 2000 election results.
00:45:47.000 All the talk about Al Gore accepted defeat.
00:45:49.000 No, he didn't.
00:45:50.000 He spent 36 days trying to uncertify a certified election.
00:45:53.000 He was not able to get one recount where he was winning in Florida.
00:45:57.000 Didn't matter.
00:45:57.000 Here's Hillary Clinton at a rally.
00:45:59.000 This is this year.
00:45:59.000 This is like two weeks ago, right, where Al Gore is speaking and the crowd starts chanting that Hillary Clinton, that Al Gore was duly elected.
00:46:06.000 Watch Hillary Clinton in the background. 0.99
00:46:08.000 Your vote really, really, really counts.
00:46:12.000 A lot.
00:46:21.000 You can consider me as an exhibit A of that truth.
00:46:27.000 Now, for those of you younger, for those of you who are younger than 25, you might not
00:46:35.000 Remember the election of 2000 and what happened here in Florida and across the country.
00:46:46.000 For those of you older than 25, I heard you murmuring just now, but take it from me, it was a very close election.
00:46:58.000 Elections, well,
00:47:09.000 Okay, so they're chanting you won, and there's Hillary Clinton wearing her grandmother's old carpet, and she's nodding along.
00:47:16.000 Yes, Al Gore won.
00:47:17.000 Okay, so don't tell me about not accepting elections.
00:47:19.000 Democrats haven't accepted the legitimacy of the 2000 election ever.
00:47:22.000 In 2002, Hillary Clinton said that George W. Bush was selected, not elected.
00:47:27.000 We're good to go.
00:47:44.000 We're good to go.
00:48:14.000 Let's do it.
00:48:19.000 So Donna Brazile is a joke. 1.00
00:48:20.000 Donna Brazile is the head of the DNC.
00:48:22.000 And Donna Brazile was on with Megyn Kelly last night, and it led to one of the more entertaining exchanges in modern TV history.
00:48:29.000 Here we go.
00:48:30.000 But now I have you.
00:48:31.000 I don't play dodgeball, honey.
00:48:32.000 I play basketball.
00:48:33.000 And I'm just telling you, he tried to score on misinformation.
00:48:37.000 He's trying to score on misinformation that was obtained illegally.
00:48:41.000 You say that, Dolly.
00:48:42.000 You say that you play straight up.
00:48:46.000 I have to ask you, because you were accused of receiving a debate question before a CNN town hall where they partnered with TV One, and that you had this question on March 12th, that verbatim was provided by Roland Martin to CNN the next day.
00:49:06.000 How did you get that question, Donna?
00:49:09.000 Well, Kelly, since I play straight up and I'll play straight up with you, I did not receive any questions from CNN.
00:49:17.000 Let's just be very clear.
00:49:19.000 Where did you get it?
00:49:21.000 First of all, what information are you providing to me that will allow me to see what you're talking about?
00:49:28.000 You got the WikiLeaks released a March 12th Podesta email showing you messaging the Clinton campaign with the exact wording of a question asked at the March 13th CNN-TV One town hall debate.
00:49:41.000 Where did you get it?
00:49:43.000 You know, as a Christian woman, I understand persecution, but I will not sit here and be persecuted because... Okay, so she says, I'm being persecuted.
00:49:50.000 She's not persecuted.
00:49:51.000 She did funnel questions to Hillary Clinton. 0.53
00:49:53.000 It just demonstrates how willing Democrats are to go on national TV and lie repeatedly, even though they know better.
00:49:58.000 Of course, she funneled questions to Hillary Clinton. 1.00
00:50:01.000 Megan Kelly does a wonderful job in that interview.
00:50:03.000 You should watch the whole clip.
00:50:04.000 It's amusing.
00:50:05.000 Okay, we have time for a short session of the mailbag, so let's do it.
00:50:12.000 Yeah, I don't despise Mike Pence.
00:50:20.000 I think that Mike Pence was a mediocre governor of Indiana.
00:50:24.000 I didn't like how he acted on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
00:50:26.000 I had already started to pull away from my kind of liking of Mike Pence after that debacle.
00:50:31.000 He should have stood by the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
00:50:34.000 I think he's humiliated himself a little bit in this election cycle.
00:50:37.000 But that said, 1.00
00:50:38.000 I don't think he's non-viable, I just think that he said a lot of stupid things in defense of his man. 0.99
00:50:43.000 Zachary writes, Trump TV for $10 a month isn't as good of a deal as Daily Wire for $8 a month. 0.99
00:50:48.000 Well, I appreciate it.
00:50:49.000 You certainly will get more facts here than you will there.
00:50:52.000 Ethan writes, hey Ben, what do you think of Evan McMullin pulling ahead in Utah?
00:50:55.000 Well, I think it shows that Utahans are smarter than the rest of the country, apparently, if they think that both of these candidates are unfathomably bad, and they'll pick Evan McMullin instead.
00:51:04.000 McMullin winning Utah would be the—he'd be the first—he would be the first third-party candidate to win a state since 1968, which is an amazing thing.
00:51:12.000 Alexander writes, Hello, Ben.
00:51:13.000 I'm a huge fan.
00:51:13.000 Really love your show.
00:51:14.000 I wonder what your thoughts are on the Dakota Pipeline protests.
00:51:17.000 I have the same thoughts on the Dakota Pipeline protests as I do on all pipeline protests. 1.00
00:51:21.000 They're dumb. 0.99
00:51:22.000 Nathan writes, As someone who is anti-abortion, 1.00
00:51:24.000 What is your stance on the death penalty?
00:51:26.000 Is there any other justification other than the criminals being executed had a choice as to their actions?
00:51:34.000 Love your podcast.
00:51:35.000 Keep it up.
00:51:36.000 Well, I mean, that is the answer.
00:51:39.000 I mean, the answer is that the death penalty should be applied to people who commit murder because they forfeited their right to life by ending the life of somebody else.
00:51:47.000 And as a society,
00:51:49.000 Our punishment of the death penalty fulfills two functions.
00:51:51.000 One is the simple justice function of you kill somebody and you're punished in turn with the same punishment.
00:51:57.000 And the second is that if you kill somebody, then society has an interest in preventing the sort of tribal warfare that goes on between peoples when the death penalty isn't carried out.
00:52:06.000 When somebody murders somebody in a tribal society, somebody from the opposing tribe comes and murders one of yours, that tribe comes and murders another, and you end up with these spiraling wars like the Hatfields and the McCoys. 0.65
00:52:16.000 That's why society instead
00:52:19.000 It's ridiculous to have people sitting on death row for 17 years for charges that are really egregious.
00:52:40.000 Uh, and it's not consistently applied, but that's, that's an argument against application, not against the death penalty in concept.
00:52:46.000 Emmanuel is writing currently, how should conservative student organizations deal with left-wing students showing up in mass to their meetings?
00:52:52.000 Uh, they should tape it, and they should get it to me at Daily Wire, and then we cover it, and then we make mockeries of the left-wing students and of the administrations that allow it.
00:52:59.000 Sean writes, which is the greater foe, apathy or conviction?
00:53:02.000 It depends.
00:53:03.000 Apathy is, is definitely, uh, a, a,
00:53:06.000 I think apathy is the more broad foe.
00:53:08.000 I think conviction is the more dangerous foe.
00:53:10.000 So, people who are convinced that they're right but they're wrong tend to be more dangerous than the apathetic.
00:53:16.000 The apathetic tend to be more enabling.
00:53:17.000 I mean, it's sort of like the question I was asked, who's more dangerous, ISIS or the American left? 0.88
00:53:21.000 And the answer is ISIS is more dangerous, obviously, because they murder people.
00:53:24.000 The American left is more enabling because they have the power to ensure that ISIS is able to do its dirty work in the Middle East and elsewhere.
00:53:31.000 Tyler writes, as someone who grew up a conservative Christian, I have always had one question I could not answer.
00:53:36.000 How is it so many people can be misled into beliefs that are contradictory to moral values that we in the West hold so dear?
00:53:40.000 I hear the devil argument a lot, but I can't seem to wrap my head around the prodigious extent of the radical Islamist culture. 0.99
00:53:46.000 Well, the answer is that the idea that human beings are capable, inherently, of coming to the right moral answers, I don't think that that's true.
00:53:56.000 I think it takes training in civilization.
00:53:58.000 This is why there are civilizational differences.
00:53:59.000 This is why it's important what you teach your kids.
00:54:01.000 It's why it's important what your leaders do.
00:54:03.000 It's why it's important what your community does.
00:54:05.000 There are certain basics that I think all human civilizations have in common, but what raises human civilization is the acknowledgment that values are universal, not tribal.
00:54:14.000 And the tribalism that you see in the radical Islamist world, the idea that, yes, I won't murder anyone in my tribe, but I'll murder someone in the outside of the tribe, that sort of tribalism leads to violence and chaos.
00:54:25.000 And only civilizations that recognize universal values are civilizations that are going to be able to survive and promulgate those values.
00:54:35.000 It's sort of a lefty idea that the human soul is—not the human soul.
00:54:38.000 Human beings are inherently good, and if we just brought them up in a Marxist system, everything would be okay.
00:54:44.000 No, human beings are not inherently good.
00:54:45.000 Meet a child one time.
00:54:47.000 They're innocent.
00:54:47.000 They're not good.
00:54:49.000 And you have to train kids to be adults, and good adults.
00:54:52.000 Okay, so, you know what?
00:54:53.000 We had to shorten the mailbag this week.
00:54:54.000 Maybe we'll do a little bit more mailbag tomorrow, because we had to cut it short because of the debate.
00:54:58.000 We have tomorrow's show, so we'll do a second mailbag, an extra mailbag just for you.
00:55:01.000 If you're a subscriber at dailywire.com, you get to participate in it live.
00:55:05.000 I should be on Megyn Kelly's show tonight.
00:55:07.000 I'm on Glenn Beck's show tomorrow morning, so keep an eye out and continue to listen to The Ben Shapiro Show, the largest conservative podcast in the United States.