The Ben Shapiro Show


Ep. 200 - Another Day, Another Hillary Scandal


Summary

With Donald Trump flailing in the polls just under two weeks from Election Day, open conflict has broken out between many of the Republicans voting for Trump and those who see him as a moral and political bridge too far for conservatives in the Republican Party. NeverTrump supporters have spent the entirety of the general election cycle focused not on helping Trump win, but on blaming NeverTrumpers if he loses. And so many Never Trumpers fail to hear the distinction between intelligent conservatives voting Trump as a last resort to stop Hillary Clinton, and Trump cheerleaders who want Trump to be a bludgeon against the cuckservative establishment. This misattribution of motives on both sides is really more likely to spell the death of the Trump Republican Party than Trump himself or Trumpism itself is. After the election, which Trump will probably lose, most Republicans will grieve at the loss of Trump. They'll lament the damage done to the party by spending months snorting at sexual assault allegations and shrugging at the accusations. And as long as both sides recognize the genuineness of the other side's grief, there will be the opportunity for reconciliation. - John McCain John McCain's Gettysburg Address, Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, September 14th, 2016. - Inaugural address by John McCain on the campaign trail, Sept. 15, 2016 - On November 9, 2016, in Dayton, Ohio, at the Democratic National Convention, a day before the primary election, a few days before the election. -- John McCain s Gettysburg address, a keynote address at the National Museum of American Modernity, a speech at the University of St. Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, a year ago, a talk about the importance of the alt-right, and much more. . -- Inauguration day, Oct. 18, 2016 -- -- in Baltimore, MD -- in the wake of the 2016 primary debate, -- on Nov. 9th, in the aftermath of the primary race, What's going on? on Oct. 16, 2016? -- What s going to happen next? -- -- what s the future of conservatism in 2020? -- and what s to come in 2020 and 2020? ? -- and so on? -- in this episode of the John McCain campaign? -- on October 9, 2020, in this epilogue to John McCain and his response to the 2016 campaign? ...and so on and so forth?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The future of conservatism depends on reconciliation beginning November 9th.
00:00:04.000 With Donald Trump flailing in the polls just under two weeks from the presidential election, open conflict has broken out between many of the Republicans voting for Trump and those who see him as a moral and political bridge too far for conservatives in the Republican Party.
00:00:17.000 For most people, that conflict is not based on disagreements about principle.
00:00:20.000 Most never-Trumpers despise Hillary Clinton and will not vote for her.
00:00:24.000 Most never-Trumpers even feel significant sympathy for the vote for Trump to stop Hillary argument.
00:00:28.000 We believe that Trump fails to meet the most basic standard of morality and conservatism, and supporting him damages Republicans politically now and in the future, so we're not going to vote for either candidate.
00:00:38.000 By contrast, most Trump voters despise Hillary Clinton and will vote against her.
00:00:42.000 Most Trump voters are voting for Trump as the lesser of two evils, not because they support his agenda on trade or trust him as a thoughtful foreign policy sage.
00:00:50.000 Most Trump voters are not Laura Ingraham or Bill Mitchell or Sean Hannity.
00:00:53.000 That's been true since May.
00:00:54.000 Most Trump voters will vote for Trump because they believe the overriding priority is to stop Hillary from entering the White House, and to that end, they're willing to overlook Trump's myriad flaws.
00:01:03.000 So, why are the two sides of this debate at each other's throats?
00:01:06.000 Mainly it's because they've been projecting bad motives onto the other side.
00:01:10.000 On the one hand, some NeverTrumpers have accused Trump voters of being high-handed, kind of sneering at them.
00:01:15.000 The most vocal Trump supporters have spent nearly the entirety of the general election cycle focused not on helping Trump win, but on blaming NeverTrumpers if he loses.
00:01:23.000 They stated first NeverTrumpers were unimportant to the debate because they're so few and far between.
00:01:28.000 Then they stated NeverTrumpers were the only thing standing between Trump and the White House.
00:01:31.000 They've argued that all Never Trumpers secretly want Hillary Clinton to be president.
00:01:35.000 They can't wait for a Hillary presidency.
00:01:36.000 Absurd.
00:01:37.000 Or they don't care about her corruption.
00:01:38.000 Idiotic.
00:01:39.000 Or we're in the pay of nefarious forces.
00:01:41.000 Ridiculous.
00:01:41.000 The only people, literally the only people in this election cycle, who have benefited monetarily are those who have boosted their careers by kissing Trump's ass.
00:01:49.000 These vocal Trump supporters have engaged in the most crass moral preening.
00:01:53.000 Those who disagree about Trump are pure evil, saboteurs, sellouts.
00:01:57.000 Now, some never-Trumpers have made the mistake of attributing the rhetoric and feelings of the people who make these yucky arguments, the ardent base of Trump support, to people who are voting for Trump reluctantly.
00:02:06.000 They feel assaulted, and so many never-Trumpers fail to hear the distinction between intelligent conservatives voting Trump as a last resort to stop Hillary, and Trump cheerleaders who want Trump to be a bludgeon against the cuckservative establishment.
00:02:17.000 Meanwhile,
00:02:19.000 On the other hand, a lot of reluctant Trump supporters have accused Never Trumpers of high-handedness.
00:02:23.000 They believe Never Trumpers are sneering at them, riding their high horses.
00:02:27.000 They refuse to acknowledge decent rationales, either moral or political, for not voting Trump.
00:02:33.000 The Pro-Trumpers don't say Never Trumpers are in the pay of international bankers or secretly pray at Hillary shrines, but they claim Never Trumpers are whiners who won't get their hands dirty and simply want a virtue signal by refusing to vote for Trump.
00:02:46.000 This misattribution of motives on both sides is really much more likely to spell the death of the Republican Party than Trump himself or Trumpism is.
00:02:53.000 After the election, which Trump will probably lose, most Republicans will grieve.
00:02:57.000 Never-Trumpers are going to grieve at the lost opportunity to stop Hillary Clinton and at paving her way by nominating a man eminently unfit and pathologically incapable of running even a half-decent campaign that'll lament the damage done to the party by spending months snorting at sexual assault allegations and shrugging at playing footsie with the despicable alt-right.
00:03:14.000 Reluctant Trump voters are also going to be grieving.
00:03:16.000 They're going to grieve at the Trump loss generally.
00:03:18.000 They'll lament both his win in the primaries and his loss in the general, but will generally acknowledge that he failed, and he failed his supporters in doing so.
00:03:25.000 Now, that does provide the opportunity for healing, so long as both sides recognize the genuineness of the other side's grief.
00:03:32.000 NeverTrumpers have to acknowledge reluctant Trump voters felt they had to do what they did.
00:03:36.000 They don't bear the stain of his sins for taking a lesser of two evils path, even if we think that was wrong.
00:03:41.000 Reluctant Trump voters have to acknowledge, NeverTrumpers, we felt we had to do what we had to do not out of a misguided attempt to demonstrate moral superiority, but out of a real abiding belief the only way to preserve conservatism and the Republican Party is to disassociate from the political electrical fire Trump represented.
00:03:58.000 No conservative or Republican of decency will be celebrating on November 9th.
00:04:02.000 No one is going to be popping the cork.
00:04:03.000 Both never-Trumpers and reluctant Trump voters should recognize this.
00:04:07.000 The only way to rebuild a Republican party based on conservative principle is to acknowledge the good motivations of people who disagree about Trump.
00:04:15.000 There is a real possibility such a rapprochement won't happen.
00:04:18.000 That's because Trump and his campaign, they actually want the Civil War.
00:04:21.000 They want us to fight each other.
00:04:22.000 They want reluctant Trump voters to fight with never-Trumpers.
00:04:25.000 They want to excise conservatives who wouldn't back Trump.
00:04:28.000 They want to co-opt the conservatives who would.
00:04:30.000 That's why in the waning days of the campaign, Trump is spending his time ripping on Paul Ryan, a Trump endorser, by the way, and blaming other Republicans for his own failures.
00:04:37.000 Trump's team, including political arsonists like former and future Breitbart chairman Steve Bannon,
00:04:42.000 Want the right to burn itself out, making way for a resurgent nationalist populism that dispenses with constitutional conservatism altogether in favor of alt-right nonsense.
00:04:52.000 Trump has an active rooting interest in initiating a civil war for both financial and political gain.
00:04:57.000 He's planning and promoting that civil war now.
00:04:59.000 To that end, Trump himself stokes the absolute lie, and it is a lie, that Republicans who won't vote for him are traitors to conservatism hell-bent on belittling those who vote for Trump.
00:05:08.000 The only way to rebuild the Republican Party based on conservative principle is to acknowledge those good motives.
00:05:14.000 We all want to stop Hillary Clinton and her vile agenda.
00:05:18.000 We all want to reverse decades of democratic policy on immigration and government growth, on social leftism and leftist race-baiting.
00:05:24.000 If Trump loses, we'll have to get over our differences about him to do that.
00:05:28.000 We all had sincere positions on Trump.
00:05:30.000 It wasn't just preening.
00:05:32.000 It wasn't unearned moral superiority.
00:05:33.000 It wasn't virtue signaling.
00:05:34.000 We had serious disagreements, but we still agree on basic principles.
00:05:38.000 If we can agree on all of that, there's a future for conservatism.
00:05:42.000 If Trump succeeds, though, in his post-election plan to divide conservatives between people who are loyal to him and people who weren't, he'll have told his biggest lie, and on the basis of that, won his greatest victory.
00:05:51.000 The conservative movement's collapse will be the final step in the political Armageddon that he and his advisors truly, truly desire.
00:05:58.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:05:59.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:06:05.000 All righty.
00:06:06.000 Lots to talk about today, including news stories about Hillary Clinton's evil, deep corruption.
00:06:10.000 And it is.
00:06:11.000 It's horrible.
00:06:12.000 That's what she is.
00:06:13.000 We'll get to all of that momentarily.
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00:07:24.000 Okay, so, here we go.
00:07:26.000 There's a lot going on in Hillary-land.
00:07:28.000 So, there's a memo that broke, and it just demonstrates that the Clinton Foundation is a giant, giant, giant scam.
00:07:34.000 Always was a giant, giant, giant scam.
00:07:37.000 Okay, so, here's the deal.
00:07:39.000 We're good to go.
00:08:00.000 And they would say to them, I want you to give $100 million to the Clinton Foundation while you're at it.
00:08:04.000 Would you mind funneling a couple mil into Bill's pocket?
00:08:06.000 Really, that's what this memo says.
00:08:08.000 It says that Tineo, quote, would ask and encourage our clients to contribute to the foundation.
00:08:13.000 Independent of our fundraising and decision-making activities on behalf of the foundation, we have decided ourselves to help the president secure
00:08:20.000 And engage in for-profit activities.
00:08:22.000 They called the operation Bill Clinton, Inc.
00:08:25.000 They would even solicit in-kind services for the President and his family, and his family includes the Secretary of State, personal travel, hospitality, vacation, and the like.
00:08:33.000 Bann talked openly of what the Washington Post now calls a circle of enrichment, in which he raised money for the Clinton Foundation from top-tier corporations like Dow Chemical and Coca-Cola that were clients of his firm, Teneo, while pressuring many of the same donors to provide personal income to the former President.
00:08:49.000 And it worked.
00:08:50.000 Band raised $8 million for the foundation.
00:08:52.000 He created contracts worth $66 million for the Clintons over the next nine years.
00:08:57.000 So, as an example, and he used the State Department as sort of the payoff, for example, Tineo brought together Clinton and the chief executive of Dow Chemical, a guy named Andrew Liveris, and he helped facilitate Dow's donation of millions to the Clinton Foundation and tens of millions to Tineo.
00:09:11.000 Simultaneously, Hillary Clinton visited Northern Ireland as Secretary of State and thanked Dow for their creation of jobs in the country.
00:09:18.000 Right, so that seems like a minor thing, and this is the problem with the story, is that there's no quote-unquote smoking gun.
00:09:23.000 Now, the ties between Tineo and the Clinton Foundation, the State Department, they all run really deep.
00:09:28.000 As we all know at this point, Cheryl Mills, who's Hillary's top hatchet woman, she's her lawyer, really, really corrupt.
00:09:33.000 She worked heavily with the Clinton Foundation while she was at the State Department.
00:09:36.000 Huma Abedin worked at the State Department, and she worked for Tineo at the same time.
00:09:40.000 She worked to, quote, assure a presidential appointment for a supporter of the Clinton Foundation, according to a chain of emails obtained by Politico.
00:09:47.000 Chelsea Clinton was upset enough by Tineo's infiltration of the Clinton Foundation that she ended up ripping on Tineo to John Podesta, who is Hillary's current campaign chair.
00:09:56.000 And that led Doug Band, who's the head of Tineo, to call Chelsea, quote, a spoiled rich brat who has nothing to do but create issues to justify what she's doing because she, as she said, has not found her way and has a lack of focus in her life.
00:10:07.000 So, all of this is really bad stuff for the Clintons, or would be if the Trump campaign were focused on explaining it.
00:10:13.000 Now, there is an advantage for the Clintons.
00:10:15.000 The Clintons, number one, know how to run a good scam operation.
00:10:18.000 Right?
00:10:19.000 Trump Foundation is not a good organization.
00:10:21.000 They don't do anything worthwhile.
00:10:22.000 The Clinton Foundation is a good scam operation.
00:10:24.000 So, Tony Soprano owned a garbage company, right?
00:10:27.000 He used to have a waste disposal company.
00:10:31.000 They actually disposed of waste.
00:10:33.000 So that meant that if you looked at Tony Soprano, you wouldn't see the gangsterism.
00:10:37.000 All you would see is a garbage company.
00:10:39.000 And then he'd go around saying the Mafia doesn't exist.
00:10:42.000 The Clinton Foundation is the same way.
00:10:43.000 They distribute a lot of money.
00:10:44.000 They take in a lot of money.
00:10:45.000 They do some good work because that's a front.
00:10:48.000 Just like Genco Olive Oil Company was the front for the Corleones, the Clinton Foundation is the front for Hillary's routine.
00:10:55.000 And meanwhile, behind the scenes, it's very complex.
00:10:57.000 You have Teneo, which is a private organization, coordinating with the nonprofit, the Clinton Foundation, and both of them coordinating with the State Department to get favors.
00:11:06.000 And the thing is that the smoking guns
00:11:08.000 The smoking guns are not huge, and that's part of the problem here, too, is that the favors that Hillary was granting to people are relatively small in the grand scheme of things.
00:11:19.000 It's not billion-dollar favors, trillion-dollar favors.
00:11:21.000 It's the kind of thing where she thanks Dow Chemical when she visits Northern Ireland, or it's the kind of thing where the Clinton Foundation directs money to rebuilding in Haiti to friends of Hillary Clinton's and Bill Clinton's with the approval of the State Department, and it's like a $10 million contract, and $5 million of it goes into somebody's pocket.
00:11:37.000 People don't tend to get too upset about this kind of stuff because they're not smoking guns as much as they are sort of smoking matches.
00:11:44.000 That's because Hillary's a pro at this and she knows how to play this game.
00:11:46.000 Hillary is a professional criminal.
00:11:48.000 Bill is a professional criminal.
00:11:49.000 They've been doing this for 20 years.
00:11:51.000 And that means that the only way to uncover this is to really prosecute the case, which means that the only person who's going to prosecute the case are the Republicans, right?
00:11:58.000 That's the only way that you're going to be able to prosecute
00:12:01.000 In this case, so the media, you know, signal their outrage, but they're not really willing to go all the way in explaining what exactly is happening with these scandals.
00:12:10.000 The Washington Post ran this story.
00:12:12.000 The Washington Post, you know, did did a full story on it, but it's a long story.
00:12:15.000 It's a little bit complex.
00:12:17.000 It's a little hard to understand unless you're reading closely.
00:12:19.000 So what you end up with is the overall impression that Hillary is corrupt,
00:12:23.000 But then, when you have people like Media Matters' Hilary Schills come out and try to pierce through that fog and say, no, no, no, no, Hilary, she never did anything wrong, people don't know enough to rebut it.
00:12:32.000 So, for example, Donald Trump in the second debate, or actually in the third debate, Donald Trump mentioned the Clinton Foundation, and he just said, what they did in Haiti, it's unbelievable, it's just terrible what they did in Haiti.
00:12:42.000 He's right, what they did in Haiti is really awful.
00:12:44.000 The Haitian people were jacked around by the Clinton Foundation.
00:12:47.000 Again, the Clinton Foundation greenlit the use of firms that were friendly to the Clintons, and they built basically corrugated iron shacks that blew over at the first moment's notice.
00:12:56.000 People in Haiti hate that.
00:12:57.000 But Trump didn't explain what he means by that.
00:12:59.000 So most people go, well, I don't know what happened in Haiti.
00:13:01.000 And because Trump only reads the headlines, he didn't have the capacity to lay out all of the steps of what actually happened in full living color.
00:13:09.000 And that's why the media have focused so much on Trump scandals, not only because they're corrupt, they are, not just because they're leftists, they are, but because it's a lot easier to understand, grab them by the bleep, right, Trump's campaign, Trump's statement to Billy Bush,
00:13:22.000 Then it is to understand the relationship between Teneo, which is run by Clinton Aides and the Clinton Foundation and the State Department, and who did Huma Abedin work for?
00:13:29.000 Was it Teneo?
00:13:30.000 Was it the Foundation?
00:13:30.000 Was it the Department?
00:13:31.000 Who is Cheryl Mills working for?
00:13:33.000 A lot of bit players, a lot of multiple conflicting threads.
00:13:37.000 That's because they're good at this.
00:13:39.000 That's because they're hiding their groundwork.
00:13:41.000 And that doesn't mean that they're innocent, because they aren't.
00:13:43.000 They're super-duper guilty.
00:13:44.000 They'll do this with the executive branch, too.
00:13:46.000 They did it the first time.
00:13:47.000 They were in power.
00:13:48.000 But it should be a reminder of just how corrupt they are.
00:13:51.000 Now, the media are doing something, and I want you to pay attention to it, because this is where the media—you can tell the media think Trump is going to lose, because they're actually starting to cover Hillary's scandals.
00:13:59.000 This is the way that this works.
00:14:00.000 When the media think Trump was going to win, all of a sudden the only thing they would cover is Trump.
00:14:04.000 Now they think Trump's going to lose, so now they're going to create the impression that they care about Clinton corruption, so later when we say, you never cared about Clinton corruption, they can say, really?
00:14:14.000 Look at all the stories we ran!
00:14:16.000 Look at all the amazing stories!
00:14:18.000 Right?
00:14:18.000 I mean, and so, this is what they're doing now.
00:14:21.000 Ron Fournier, who, Ron Fournier, I think, works for National Journal, and he is complaining about the circle of enrichment.
00:14:28.000 I did that story, the one you're talking about, when this scandal first broke in early 2015, and it was based on a person very close to the Clintons who I'd known for a long time, who'd worked for the Clintons for a long time, who was saying, you know, getting to the motive of why she had the secret server, and it was because
00:14:46.000 Of the circle of enrichment, the phrase that the Washington Post pulled up today, that was clear even then.
00:14:51.000 There was already some connections between Doug Band and, you know, shaking down donors at the time.
00:14:57.000 And this person was saying this is really about the foundation.
00:15:00.000 It's not about the email.
00:15:01.000 And more importantly, Joe, you know, for the next 18 months, I wrote story after story basically begging the Clintons to stop taking foreign money, to come clean with this email, to turn over to the Inspector General, the secret server, to stop lying about what went into this.
00:15:18.000 And Fournier's coverage, he has, in fairness, covered Hillary better than a lot of these other sources, but what you're seeing is places like CNN, which have basically ignored Hillary's scandals in favor of Trump's all the time, now they're trying to cover their butts by claiming that they're just offended, they can't believe Hillary's corrupt.
00:15:33.000 Again, if you can't believe Hillary's corrupt, it's because you haven't been watching closely enough.
00:15:38.000 So we will continue along these lines, plus we have to get to
00:15:41.000 We're good to go.
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00:16:40.000 So the media are trying to cover up for the fact that they don't care about Hillary's corruption by pretending to care about Hillary's corruption.
00:16:47.000 CNN's Gloria Borger, she says, yeah, Clinton, she knew her server was wrong.
00:16:51.000 She knew the server was bad.
00:16:52.000 It does seem to reinforce the narrative that Republicans have been reiterating for months that Hillary Clinton knew her email server was wrong and when she got caught or AIDS, you know, when she got caught, she tried to conceal it or AIDS wanted to conceal it.
00:17:04.000 It sure does.
00:17:05.000 And it's a bad storyline for her.
00:17:07.000 It continues.
00:17:09.000 And it hasn't seemed to move the needle at all, Anderson.
00:17:13.000 And maybe it's because it's a little bit at this point, at this late in the game, like saying, oh, there's gambling going on here in Casablanca?
00:17:20.000 Sure.
00:17:20.000 Of course Hillary Clinton plays by a different set of rules.
00:17:23.000 And the people who aren't going to vote for her because of the emails have already decided to
00:17:29.000 To dismiss it.
00:17:49.000 Well, how did it get a little late in the game?
00:17:52.000 How was the stuff already baked in?
00:17:53.000 Oh yeah, because you people wouldn't cover it because you were too busy covering whatever stupid thing Donald Trump said earlier in the campaign.
00:18:00.000 And as I say,
00:18:11.000 I can complain about the media being corrupt and still complain about Donald Trump sucking at his job.
00:18:15.000 I mean, it was Donald Trump's job to avoid stepping in every pile of dog crap that he could possibly find.
00:18:20.000 That said, the media obviously are corrupt.
00:18:22.000 The media obviously wanted Hillary to win.
00:18:24.000 So, that is, excuse me, what it is.
00:18:27.000 There's still some Democrats, by the way, who are going to protect Hillary Clinton.
00:18:31.000 Al Franken, formerly Stuart Smalley of SNL, he says the WikiLeaks are just run-of-the-mill material.
00:18:36.000 They're not damaging.
00:18:37.000 How damaging are these, do you think, to Hillary Clinton's overall campaign?
00:18:45.000 Gee, I don't think they've been damaging at all.
00:18:49.000 I've been through a campaign.
00:18:50.000 I've been kind of astounded about how sort of run-of-the-mill these emails have been.
00:18:57.000 I think that's why they really haven't made much news.
00:19:03.000 You know, within a campaign, you have people having disputes with other people and some of their judgment on certain things, but it doesn't seem like...
00:19:14.000 Okay, so if you believe Al Franken, and this is the story, but obviously, if she wins, she's going to enter office as a very weak president because everyone knows how corrupt she is, even if they're not sure precisely why she's corrupt, because the Trump campaign has done a poor job of prosecuting the case against Hillary Clinton.
00:19:30.000 Now, meanwhile, Donald Trump is still on the campaign trail.
00:19:33.000 The polls, by the way, are tightening somewhat.
00:19:35.000 That doesn't mean that Trump is within spitting distance, but he's within shouting distance right now.
00:19:39.000 He's down in too many states, I think, for him to come back.
00:19:42.000 Right now, the betting markets still have him.
00:19:44.000 Far and away trailing, but he is tightening the polls nationally a little bit.
00:19:50.000 There's a poll out with Clinton up 6, there's one with Clinton up 7, there's one with Clinton up 5, 3, 2, 2.
00:19:55.000 The twos are IBD, TPP tracking polls.
00:19:59.000 But the real clear politics poll average right now has Clinton, in a two-way race, has Clinton up 5.7, in a four-way race has Clinton up 5.8.
00:20:09.000 That's a pretty big gap going into 11 days out from the election, barring some sort of cataclysmic event Trump is going to lose.
00:20:17.000 That said, the polls are tightening in some of these states.
00:20:20.000 The polls are getting closer in some of these states.
00:20:24.000 So Trump is out there campaigning, and he is.
00:20:26.000 I mean, finally he's actually campaigning.
00:20:28.000 By the way, just to give you the quick poll update, in the RealClearPolitics poll average for the swing states, Clinton is up in Florida, Pennsylvania by 5, New Hampshire by 6.5, she's up in North Carolina by 2, she's up in Nevada by 2.
00:20:39.000 Iowa, Trump is up by 3.7, so he'll win Iowa in all likelihood.
00:20:43.000 He's up by 1.1 in Ohio, so that one's basically a toss-up, or he'll win.
00:20:48.000 And then she's also up in Michigan heavily, Wisconsin heavily, Colorado heavily, Virginia heavily.
00:20:53.000 She's up in Maine, and she's up in Arizona as well.
00:20:55.000 So right now, the live betting odds remain 84% for Hillary and 16% for Trump.
00:21:00.000 So it would take a pretty massive miracle in order for Trump to pull this off.
00:21:05.000 But Trump, as I say, he's still out there campaigning, and that means that
00:21:09.000 We're only gonna get a few chances to use this.
00:21:11.000 I mean, so we may as well use it now.
00:21:12.000 Should we do a bit of good Trump, bad Trump?
00:21:14.000 Let's do it.
00:21:19.000 Okay, so, we're drawing to our closing episodes of Good Trump, Bad Trump, if indeed he loses.
00:21:26.000 If he wins, we have four more years of Good Trump, Bad Trump, in which we will not pay residuals to Brandon Snipes, who writes this theme.
00:21:32.000 So, in any case, one of the things that people like about Trump is that Trump is constantly slapping the media.
00:21:39.000 She had been saying literally for years, long before Trump came on the scene, that Republicans ought to be saying to George Stephanopoulos, you do not get to pretend to be an objective journalist when you were Hillary Clinton's chief of staff.
00:21:50.000 Donald Trump finally, finally goes after George Stephanopoulos.
00:21:53.000 This is good Trump.
00:21:55.000 It's a big asset.
00:21:56.000 They have to use it right, but it's a big asset.
00:21:59.000 She'll tell you when you use it wrong.
00:22:01.000 She can give me very good advice, believe me.
00:22:03.000 What she's saying is true, though.
00:22:04.000 I've seen so many people hurt.
00:22:07.000 Badly.
00:22:07.000 Not just children.
00:22:08.000 I mean, just people are hurt so badly by new social media.
00:22:14.000 And she feels very strongly about it.
00:22:15.000 She understands it very well.
00:22:17.000 New York Times was all the people they say you've insulted.
00:22:20.000 Well, that's okay.
00:22:21.000 That's okay.
00:22:23.000 Were you one of them?
00:22:25.000 Actually, I wasn't.
00:22:25.000 I was a little surprised at that.
00:22:27.000 I'm surprised.
00:22:28.000 Let's go check it.
00:22:29.000 I can't believe I didn't include you.
00:22:33.000 Which is funny, and by the way, he should have included George Stephanopoulos, aka the Keebler Elf.
00:22:37.000 We'll get to some more good Trump in his speech to Black America, because there was some good stuff there today, although the new YouGov poll shows him garnering all of 1% in the black community, so his black person liked the speech.
00:22:52.000 She's got no energy whatsoever.
00:23:07.000 Everyone's talking about the fact that I'll do seven, eight, nine stops.
00:23:12.000 I'll make three or four major speeches.
00:23:13.000 Like, for instance, right after this, we have thousands and thousands of people in North Carolina coming to another one.
00:23:19.000 Last night, 25,000 people.
00:23:22.000 I got home at one o'clock in the morning.
00:23:25.000 Here's a woman.
00:23:26.000 She makes a speech for 15 minutes.
00:23:28.000 She goes home, goes to bed.
00:23:33.000 Honestly?
00:23:35.000 She has less energy than Jeb Bush.
00:23:40.000 I admit it.
00:23:41.000 What's the purpose of this?
00:23:42.000 The purpose of this is to gin up his base who are still thinking about those glorious days during the primaries when it looked like Donald Trump was going to win, other silly things that Donald Trump did.
00:23:50.000 Donald Trump has now, he surprised Melania with the idea that she's going to make a bunch of speeches on his behalf, which is just what America's women need.
00:23:57.000 I mean, America's women are just dying to hear from Melania Trump.
00:24:00.000 By the way, the idea that American women are going to be convinced to vote for Trump by Melania, maybe by Ivanka, who's actually likable, but trotting out the foreign ex-model
00:24:09.000 Who is probably responsible for your own divorce to cater to America's women.
00:24:16.000 That's not a strong move.
00:24:17.000 But here is Trump giving her the surprise birthday present of, by the way, you're going to be speaking for me.
00:24:23.000 And the crowd and the people that are behind him.
00:24:27.000 It's unbelievable to see.
00:24:29.000 Does it make you want to get out there yourself and help him out the final two weeks?
00:24:33.000 We will see.
00:24:35.000 My priority is my son Barron, our son Barron.
00:24:39.000 And I support him 100%.
00:24:41.000 And I'm there for him every time he needs me.
00:24:45.000 And I might join him.
00:24:47.000 We will see.
00:24:48.000 She's actually going to make two or three speeches.
00:24:51.000 And I will tell you.
00:24:55.000 She's amazing when she speaks.
00:24:56.000 She's an amazing public speaker.
00:24:58.000 She's agreed to do two or three speeches, and I think it's going to be big speeches, important speeches.
00:25:06.000 I think it's going to be great.
00:25:08.000 And she's like, wait, what?
00:25:10.000 I agree to do what now?
00:25:11.000 So, OK, so now I want to talk about Trump.
00:25:14.000 All of this is minutiae, obviously, and I want to talk about something that's not minutiae, and that is Trump's speech to black America.
00:25:18.000 So one of the things I've praised Trump for during this campaign is the fact that he actually has attempted to draw black voters successfully or unsuccessfully by speaking directly to black voters.
00:25:28.000 And I think that that's a worthwhile thing.
00:25:29.000 I think that Republicans ought to be speaking to every crowd about their message everywhere they can find a microphone.
00:25:35.000 Whoever is in the audience.
00:25:36.000 And that's one thing that I appreciate about Trump.
00:25:37.000 I do want to point out, though, there are a lot of people saying this was Trump's best speech.
00:25:41.000 Well, his speech to black America was his best speech.
00:25:44.000 And I want to point out that one of the great lies of this campaign has been that Donald Trump is a conservative.
00:25:49.000 Donald Trump's speech to black people yesterday was at least two-thirds leftist policy.
00:25:53.000 There's one-third that was great, and there was two-thirds that was leftist policy.
00:25:56.000 And so when anybody tells you Donald Trump is a conservative, listen, again, that's not an argument against voting for him.
00:26:01.000 You can vote for him to stop Hillary Clinton.
00:26:03.000 I understand it.
00:26:03.000 It's not logic with which I agree, but I understand what you're doing, okay?
00:26:08.000 But when people lie and say he's a conservative,
00:26:10.000 He's not, okay?
00:26:11.000 And let's go through some of the policies he's proposed in his speech to Black America.
00:26:15.000 So here's Donald Trump talking about how he's going to revitalize the economy for Black Americans.
00:26:20.000 At the center of my revitalization plan is the issue of trade.
00:26:25.000 Massive, chronic trade deficits have emptied out our jobs.
00:26:29.000 Just look at what's happened to Baltimore, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and right here in North Carolina.
00:26:36.000 You know that for a fact.
00:26:38.000 It's the greatest jobs theft in the history of the world.
00:26:43.000 If I'm president and the executives at Ford Motor Company announce they're moving their plants and jobs to Mexico, I will pick up the phone and make a very, very simple call.
00:26:55.000 I don't know if it's presidential, but I'd rather do it myself.
00:26:58.000 And who cares?
00:27:00.000 I will tell those executives that if they move their factories to Mexico, I will put a 35% tax on their product.
00:27:08.000 We won't let your jobs be stolen from you anymore.
00:27:12.000 Not gonna happen.
00:27:14.000 So easy.
00:27:15.000 Okay, so we can stop it there.
00:27:16.000 This is pure Bernie Sanders leftism.
00:27:19.000 He's talking now about the idea that you are owed a job in Detroit no matter what the union contracts are, no matter what the taxes are, and he will punish companies for moving their labor base to places where they can more cheaply produce product.
00:27:31.000 Okay, and he's personally going to do that.
00:27:33.000 You understand that's economic fascism that he's talking about?
00:27:35.000 The President of the United States picking up the phone and threatening companies directly, I am going to tax your imports if you do that.
00:27:42.000 First of all, if Ford moves its company, if Ford moves their plants to Mexico,
00:27:47.000 You have to understand, Ford has also moved a lot of its plants down south.
00:27:49.000 The only reason there's a labor base for Ford in the United States at all is because the money they've saved from moving to Mexico they can then use to build a labor base in places like Jackson, Mississippi.
00:27:58.000 The idea that everything has to remain in Detroit is just absurd.
00:28:01.000 Detroit is poorly run.
00:28:02.000 That's why business is left.
00:28:04.000 If Detroit had been well-run, businesses never would have left.
00:28:06.000 But Trump says he's going to blackmail businesses.
00:28:09.000 That is a left policy.
00:28:10.000 It's a left policy.
00:28:12.000 And it is welfare, what he's talking about.
00:28:13.000 He's talking about basically threatening companies.
00:28:16.000 Imagine, for a second, that you took away the trade aspect of this.
00:28:19.000 And he said, you know what?
00:28:20.000 We need companies to hire black people.
00:28:22.000 Let's get down to the root of what he's saying here.
00:28:23.000 We need companies to hire more black people because I want black people's support in this election.
00:28:27.000 Therefore, if there's a company located in a heavily black area, and they move out of the heavily black area, I threaten to remove money from them.
00:28:35.000 Single-handedly.
00:28:37.000 I threaten to take money out of their pocket to force them to hire black people.
00:28:41.000 Wouldn't conservatives justifiably go nuts?
00:28:43.000 That's what he's talking about right there.
00:28:45.000 Okay, that's not right-wing.
00:28:46.000 Sean Hannity is wrong when he says that this guy's a right-winger.
00:28:48.000 He's not.
00:28:49.000 He's not a conservative.
00:28:50.000 He's not a constitutional conservative.
00:28:51.000 He's not a liberate and limited-governing guy.
00:28:53.000 That doesn't mean that he's fully left.
00:28:55.000 Here's him making a proposal that's not left on taxes.
00:28:58.000 At the same time, my plan to lower the business tax from 35% to 15% will bring thousands of new companies onto our shores.
00:29:10.000 You'll have jobs.
00:29:11.000 You'll have jobs back.
00:29:14.000 It also includes a massive middle-class tax cut, tax-free child care savings accounts, and child care tax deductions and credits, and a total simplification of the tax code.
00:29:33.000 I will also propose tax holidays for inner city investment, a new tax incentive to get foreign companies to relocate in blighted American neighborhoods, and they will do that.
00:29:45.000 It will be worthwhile.
00:29:46.000 It's called incentive.
00:29:48.000 They will do it.
00:29:48.000 So a couple of things here.
00:29:49.000 So he mentioned some good policy about lowering taxes, and then he says he's basically going to create tax loopholes that give an incentive for people to locate businesses in areas that are blighted.
00:30:01.000 Again, this is Democrat policy.
00:30:02.000 It is.
00:30:03.000 It's left policy to use government dollars or to use government benefits, which is what he's talking about, to encourage people to put their money in certain areas as opposed to other areas that's government interventionism.
00:30:13.000 Then he goes full-scale Hillary Clinton, Barney Frank on the financial sector.
00:30:19.000 He says the way he's going to help black people is by restricting the big banks.
00:30:22.000 I will also pursue financial reforms to make it easier for young African Americans to get credit to pursue their dreams in business and create jobs in their communities.
00:30:33.000 It's going to be beautiful.
00:30:35.000 OK, first of all, we don't know.
00:30:37.000 I mean, we're going to go to his policy in one second.
00:30:39.000 But he says he's going to pursue financial reforms to make it easier for young black people to get credit.
00:30:44.000 If you can't get credit right now in the environment, maybe it's because you're not creditworthy.
00:30:48.000 Okay?
00:30:48.000 It's because we've promoted bad credit to people who couldn't pay back their loans that we've had a subprime mortgage crash.
00:30:54.000 It's why we're going to have a student loan crash that's going to happen anytime now.
00:30:59.000 Here's his actual policy prescription.
00:31:00.000 Such talent.
00:31:02.000 There's such a potential talent out there.
00:31:05.000 It's so incredible, and it's totally being wasted, wasted by politicians that maybe don't want to see it happen.
00:31:13.000 Dodd-Frank has been a disaster, making it harder for small businesses to get the credit they need.
00:31:18.000 You folks know that.
00:31:19.000 The policies of the Clintons brought us the financial recession through lifting Glass-Steagall, pushing subprime lending, and blocking reforms to Fannie and Freddie.
00:31:31.000 Two friendly names, but they're not so friendly.
00:31:35.000 It's time for a 21st century Glass-Steagall, and as part of that, a priority on helping African-American businesses get the credit they need.
00:31:45.000 Okay, so Glass-Steagall.
00:31:46.000 For people who don't know what that is, this has become a buzzword.
00:31:48.000 The Glass-Steagall Act was passed in 1933.
00:31:50.000 It prohibited commercial banks from engaging in the investment business.
00:31:54.000 The idea was if they took loans, they could give out your loans to various other businesses as kind of short
00:32:01.000 Short pay, but they couldn't invest the money.
00:32:03.000 They couldn't become hedge funds.
00:32:04.000 You couldn't combine a bank and a hedge fund.
00:32:06.000 If you want to make sure that banks can give more loans, you need to create more profit margin for them, right?
00:32:11.000 Here's the way banks work.
00:32:12.000 Banks loan out money to you, right?
00:32:15.000 And you deposit your money with them.
00:32:17.000 The way that they can loan out money, the way that they get money, is by taking the money of their depositors and investing it.
00:32:23.000 And then they guarantee you a very small interest rate if you put your money in their bank.
00:32:27.000 They take that money and they invest it.
00:32:28.000 The more money they make, the more money they have to play with in handing out riskier loans.
00:32:32.000 That's the reality of how banks work.
00:32:34.000 If you prohibit them from investing because you think that they are incapable of investing, then you're actually preventing them from having the cash flow necessary in order for them to grant
00:32:43.000 I want every poor African-American child to be able to walk down the street in peace and not be scared and not be hurt.
00:33:09.000 The problem is not the presence of police, but the absence of police.
00:33:13.000 We need really a great group of people to keep you safe, to keep us all safe.
00:33:21.000 I will invest in training and funding both local and federal law enforcement operations to remove the gang members, drug dealers, and criminal cartels from our neighborhoods.
00:33:37.000 The best thing that he said in the whole speech, right?
00:33:39.000 What he says right here is the best thing that he says in the whole speech.
00:33:42.000 That actually is conservative.
00:33:44.000 But, again, to pretend that he's conservative across the board, even in speeches like this one, is just not real.
00:33:50.000 Here's what he had to say about infrastructure investment.
00:33:53.000 Infrastructure will be another major goal.
00:33:56.000 My contract calls for $1 trillion in infrastructure investment, of which the inner cities will be a major beneficiary.
00:34:04.000 We need something done.
00:34:07.000 Okay, so he says he's going to spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure.
00:34:10.000 Okay, you don't make anybody rich by spending money on infrastructure.
00:34:13.000 Communist countries have been doing it for centuries.
00:34:15.000 It doesn't work.
00:34:16.000 Okay, and then he comes back with an actual conservative plan.
00:34:18.000 He pushes school choice.
00:34:20.000 One thing that doesn't appear, by the way, anywhere in the speech is any talk from Donald Trump about family structure, which
00:34:25.000 Which by the way is the single greatest barrier that is facing a lot of black people living in impoverished communities.
00:34:31.000 And by the way, white people living in impoverished communities.
00:34:33.000 At no point does he mention that.
00:34:34.000 He says he's going to promote the family, but then he doesn't explain what he means by that.
00:34:37.000 He doesn't say we're going to encourage social institutions to push family structure.
00:34:43.000 We're going to try and reinvigorate a feeling in the United States that a child deserves a mother and a father.
00:34:49.000 And I'm going to stand out front right here and say right now, every child deserves a mother and a father and it's immoral for fathers to abandon their children and it's immoral for people to have children out of wedlock because it does not help the child.
00:35:01.000 It does not help the child.
00:35:02.000 That doesn't mean abortion, that means be responsible with where you put your genitals, gang.
00:35:06.000 He's not saying any of the things that need to be said.
00:35:08.000 So, the reason I do this, the reason I do this is because all of this is lead up to the fact
00:35:12.000 They've got people like Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham who are going nuts already because they know Trump's going to lose.
00:35:17.000 And they're already saying, how could you not have embraced this guy who's so, so, so, so, so, so, so conservative?
00:35:22.000 He's the most conservative ever.
00:35:24.000 You're giving up this and this and that.
00:35:25.000 He's so conservative.
00:35:26.000 OK, so as we've shown, no, he's not.
00:35:30.000 He's not, okay?
00:35:31.000 He's not.
00:35:31.000 He's a Blue Dog Democrat.
00:35:32.000 What he's talking about is basic Blue Dog Democrat policy.
00:35:35.000 That is what it is.
00:35:35.000 I just thought that it was worthwhile to have a final illustration in objective measures of what he is and what he's not.
00:35:41.000 He's not a hardcore leftist, but he's certainly not a constitutional conservative who believes in limited government and individual liberty.
00:35:49.000 Okay.
00:35:49.000 So, with that said, let's do some things I like and some things I hate, and then we'll do mailbag, because we've had to cut the mailbag short the last couple of times out.
00:35:56.000 So, things I like.
00:35:57.000 I'm going to continue along the graphic novel theme.
00:36:00.000 This one is great.
00:36:00.000 This was recommended by the Daily Wire's own managing editor, Jeremy Boring.
00:36:05.000 Superman, Red Son.
00:36:06.000 This may be my favorite graphic novel ever.
00:36:09.000 Mark Millar wrote it.
00:36:10.000 Mark Millar is great, by the way.
00:36:11.000 Mark Millar.
00:36:26.000 Let's do a thing I hate.
00:36:51.000 HBO's John Oliver belongs to a class of British people who think that they are smarter than everyone else by dint of their accent.
00:36:57.000 They think that because they share an accent with Rex Harrison from My Fair Lady, this makes them geniuses.
00:37:02.000 So John Oliver does a political show on American politics.
00:37:06.000 He doesn't know much about American politics.
00:37:08.000 He doesn't know much about politics generally, but he's been feeded by the media because he's a comedian who's wildly to the left.
00:37:13.000 So just like President Obama,
00:37:15.000 Is going to be interviewed by Samantha Bee, who's legitimately the least funny person in human history.
00:37:19.000 She and Trevor Noah actually have a cage match next week to determine who's the least funny person in human history.
00:37:25.000 Both of them, I believe, beat Stalin for that title a while back, so now we're going to unify the championships.
00:37:30.000 So, Obama's going to be on with Samantha Bee, where presumably they will jabber about how much they love each other and why abortion's wonderful.
00:37:37.000 John Oliver was ripping on Donald Trump.
00:37:40.000 The other day I was at some awards ceremony and because he's British that means we're supposed to pay attention to him even though we fought a revolution so we wouldn't have to pay attention to the Brits.
00:37:47.000 Here's John Oliver talking about abortion.
00:37:51.000 And in terms of the communication about reproductive rights and the conversation that is so important, we really did potentially hit an idea in the modern era during that third debate, because his discussion of late-term abortions showed no real understanding of how abortions work, no clear understanding of the basic biology of women's bodies, and a very poor sense of grammar as well.
00:38:17.000 So I guess
00:38:19.000 We got, in a sense, what we were asking for.
00:38:22.000 If you asked Donald Trump to draw a fallopian tube, I cannot imagine what you would get back other than a child's drawing of a cobra.
00:38:32.000 Okay, and I would hesitate to ask John Oliver to draw a fallopian tube or describe any of the biology here because he obviously doesn't know.
00:38:41.000 Now, look, I criticize Trump for being ignorant about how he describes abortion because he wasn't graphic enough, but let me, for those who missed it, explain what exactly happens in a late-term abortion, which is what he was talking about, okay?
00:38:53.000 What happens in a late-term abortion, what happens in a late-term abortion is something completely
00:38:59.000 Awful.
00:38:59.000 This is according to AmericanPregnancy.org, okay?
00:39:01.000 Not a right-wing pro-life website.
00:39:02.000 AmericanPregnancy.org.
00:39:04.000 Quote,
00:39:22.000 That's one procedure that's used.
00:39:23.000 That's dilation and extraction.
00:39:26.000 In late-term abortions, it's usually one of these two, dilation and evacuation or dilation and extraction.
00:39:31.000 Dilation and evacuation, the baby may be given a lethal injection to kill it.
00:39:34.000 Sometimes they don't use such injections.
00:39:36.000 Then the doctor uses a curette or a forceps to carve up the child's body in the womb and remove it piece by piece.
00:39:42.000 So, I guess that Donald Trump could have been more graphic.
00:39:45.000 I don't know that John Oliver would have enjoyed that, but he could have been more graphic, I suppose.
00:39:49.000 But this is what they do.
00:39:50.000 They laugh it off.
00:39:51.000 Ah, he can't draw a fallopian tube.
00:39:53.000 Okay, John.
00:39:54.000 Draw an abortion.
00:39:56.000 Really, draw it.
00:39:56.000 Let's see it.
00:39:57.000 I want to see you get down there with a piece of paper, and I want you to draw me what you think an abortion looks like.
00:40:01.000 And it's not waving a magic wand.
00:40:04.000 And it's not getting rid of a cluster of cells that mean nothing.
00:40:07.000 I want you to sit there and draw what it looks like when a baby is cut into pieces and removed from the womb.
00:40:13.000 I would like to see that.
00:40:14.000 But of course he'll never do that, other than it might look like a cobra, might look like a cobra, maybe it'll look like a princess waving her fairy magic wand and a unicorn emerges from the vagina.
00:40:24.000 The fact that he thinks his accent covers for his basic ignorance of biology and his euphemistic willingness to ignore what amounts to child killing is absolutely ridiculous and despicable.
00:40:34.000 Alrighty, on that note, time for some mailbags.
00:40:36.000 So, we have a full mailbag this week.
00:40:42.000 I know, dude.
00:40:43.000 It's an amazing experience waking up and being me.
00:40:45.000 It's a wonder I don't walk around with a hand mirror all the time.
00:40:48.000 Or do I?
00:41:03.000 I was wondering what the economic arguments against immigration are.
00:41:06.000 I understand the principal one.
00:41:07.000 Coming from a family of immigrants, I understand not liking people circumventing the system.
00:41:11.000 But economically, does it not make more sense to leave it be?
00:41:13.000 America has recently become more white than blue collar, so don't we want people occupying the unwanted jobs, not having to pay the minimum wage, thereby keeping costs
00:41:21.000 Down.
00:41:21.000 So, Evan, as you may have seen on the program, I am fully libertarian when it comes to immigration so long as there are safety checks and no welfare system.
00:41:28.000 The downside to immigration happens when there are people who come to the country and then take advantage of the welfare system.
00:41:34.000 That's all.
00:41:35.000 I believe in free markets.
00:41:36.000 If somebody wants to come here and they have the right values and they're not a safety threat and they don't want to sponge off the taxpayer dollar and they want to come legally, which is
00:41:43.000 How we screen for all of this, then I have no problem with immigration.
00:41:46.000 I don't think you're owed a job at a wage that you feel that you deserve just because you exist and were born in America.
00:41:52.000 I don't think that's true.
00:41:53.000 I think we all compete for our jobs with people all over the world.
00:41:56.000 And by the way, economically speaking, when you create these kind of
00:42:00.000 False pay scales for people working in the United States, what you end up doing is making American businesses less efficient, and when you open up those businesses to foreign trade, they collapse.
00:42:09.000 That's what happened to the American car industry in the 60s and 70s.
00:42:12.000 We were the envy of the world in the 40s, 50s, 30s with American vehicles, and then other countries started to compete.
00:42:18.000 Because we had these massive union contracts, because we had all these steel tariffs, the cost of creating cars in the United States went up.
00:42:25.000 We opened up the borders, people stopped
00:42:28.000 Wanting to pay so much for cars, and then we started buying foreign cars at unbelievable rates, not because we like foreigners better, but because the cars they were making were better and cheaper, and the American car industry collapsed.
00:42:38.000 In order to keep something competitive, you actually have to allow competitive pressures to take place.
00:42:43.000 So I'm not against immigration on economic grounds, except when it comes to illegal immigration, which I'm against because there are tremendous costs associated with it, ranging from the education of children who come in the country, and their parents are impoverished and don't have enough money to pay for them,
00:42:58.000 And they can't pay for their health care, and we end up absorbing the cost through taxpayer dollars and reallocation of resources.
00:43:04.000 Okay, Adam writes, Hey Ben, I grew up hearing my dad tell people, quote, if you didn't vote, you can't complain.
00:43:09.000 If you're too lazy to vote, keep your mouth shut.
00:43:11.000 I tend to agree with this for the most part, except for the fact these two candidates are absolutely awful.
00:43:15.000 With that, thoughts on Evan McMullin, for someone who feels like he has to vote but can't bring himself to vote for either of these two.
00:43:21.000 I don't have any problem with voting for Evan McMullin.
00:43:22.000 If I were living in Utah, I probably would vote for Evan McMullin.
00:43:25.000 I live in California.
00:43:26.000 He's not on the ballot here, but he's somebody I'd be comfortable voting for because he much more closely reflects my principles than all the other people who are running.
00:43:36.000 By the way, this basic idea, if you didn't vote, you can't complain, I agree if you were too lazy to vote.
00:43:40.000 If you didn't vote because you find everybody unpalatable, I think that you've pretty much preserved your right to complain about everybody because you haven't endorsed anyone.
00:43:48.000 Michael Chapman says, happy 200th episode.
00:43:50.000 Yes, indeed.
00:43:51.000 By the way, we have something special planned for Monday because Monday is Halloween.
00:43:55.000 That's not a Jewish thing, but it's a fun thing, so we're going to do it.
00:43:59.000 So on Monday, we will be here doing a Halloween episode.
00:44:02.000 It will be quite spooky and frightening.
00:44:04.000 Thanos writes, by the way, awesome name.
00:44:06.000 Thanos writes, hey Ben.
00:44:08.000 Ta-Nehisi Coates came to my school in Philadelphia yesterday.
00:44:10.000 Well, I'm surprised he deigned to, considering he'd come back from Paris to the most racist country on Earth.
00:44:15.000 All day I was passing groups of black students and locals raving about his speech and how enlightened they were.
00:44:19.000 I could not go because of class, but I wanted to know how you counter his ideas of systemic racism.
00:44:23.000 The way I counter his ideas of systemic racism is Ta-Nehisi Coates writes really bad books for lots of money and gets to live in Paris because he's super wealthy by playing off the fears of a bunch of leftists who feel morally superior by reading his crappy books.
00:44:35.000 Okay, that doesn't sound like systemic racism to me unless it's reverse racism.
00:44:39.000 I counter the ideas of systemic racism on a regular basis.
00:44:42.000 That doesn't mean there aren't racists.
00:44:43.000 Of course there are racists.
00:44:45.000 There are individual racists.
00:44:46.000 They exist.
00:44:47.000 I've experienced many of them during this election cycle, okay?
00:44:50.000 There are individual anti-Semites.
00:44:51.000 That doesn't mean America is an anti-Semitic country or there is systemic anti-Semitism.
00:44:55.000 The same thing is true for racism.
00:44:57.000 If you find me a racist, if you find me a racist act, I am more than happy to rally against that racist act.
00:45:03.000 If it is coming from government, I am more than happy to fight that racist law.
00:45:08.000 But I'm not going to accuse people of racism without evidence because that's the worst slur you can throw against anybody in the United States.
00:45:14.000 That's why I won't even call Donald Trump a racist.
00:45:16.000 I just think that he caters to a lot of them for his own political gain.
00:45:19.000 But, I think we ought to be very careful about saying things like systemic racism or institutional racism.
00:45:25.000 A library is not racist.
00:45:26.000 A university is not racist.
00:45:28.000 A policy can be racist, but you have to show me the policy.
00:45:31.000 An act can be racist, but you have to show me the act.
00:45:33.000 Okay.
00:45:34.000 Seth writes, Hey Ben, I listened to your book a few weeks ago.
00:45:36.000 It's probably the most depressing book ever written, especially the end.
00:45:40.000 Great job, though.
00:45:41.000 Well, thanks for that pitch.
00:45:42.000 You can buy True Allegiance and get furiously depressed at your local bookstore on November 1st, or you can subscribe annually to the podcast at dailywire.com and get a free signed copy.
00:45:52.000 Right now, high school students are able to get large loans that can be very harmful to them later in life.
00:45:56.000 Would you be in favor of a change to make the amount of student aid you can get be based on grades?
00:46:00.000 Thanks, Seth.
00:46:01.000 Seth, first of all, I would change it so that all of these loans were private.
00:46:05.000 When I went to Harvard Law School, the vast majority of my loans were private.
00:46:09.000 And I was able to get those loans easily because I was going to Harvard Law School.
00:46:11.000 They knew I was going to make enough money to pay it off.
00:46:13.000 Now, that disadvantages the person who wants to major in lesbian dance theory, admittedly, because it turns out not a lot of banks are willing to foot the bill for you to dance around to the
00:46:22.000 to the music of Melissa Etheridge, but that said, the fact is that the market should take care of a lot of these problems, and it's not my job to decide what loan is worthy or what loan isn't.
00:46:34.000 It isn't my money.
00:46:35.000 Okay, Daniel writes, Hi Ben, can you briefly discuss the viability of the electoral college system in modern times?
00:46:40.000 Do you think a straight popular vote for president would be a better alternative
00:46:43.000 Going forward, why or why not?
00:46:46.000 So I see arguments on both sides of this.
00:46:47.000 I'm not somebody who's a real devotee of the Electoral College.
00:46:50.000 The reason being that the original rationale behind the Electoral College was as a check to prevent us from electing bad people.
00:46:55.000 It's not been working, gang.
00:46:58.000 Sorry to break it to folks, but it's not been great.
00:47:02.000 So there's that.
00:47:03.000 As far as
00:47:05.000 Straight popular vote.
00:47:06.000 The good news about a straight popular vote is it means that my vote would actually count in California.
00:47:09.000 The bad news about a straight popular vote is it means that your vote would count slightly less in Texas.
00:47:14.000 But there's a case to be made for a straight popular vote.
00:47:17.000 And even though it's not something the founders would have approved of, we've broadened the notion of voting pretty broadly from what the founders once approved of.
00:47:25.000 And the idea that the Electoral College provides any real sort of check or balance against bad choices I think has obviously been done away with.
00:47:32.000 I don't think the electors will do anything.
00:47:34.000 Let's see, this does not look like a real question from Paul, but Michael says...
00:47:39.000 Hi, Ben.
00:47:39.000 For the past couple of weeks, Michael Mowles has sat at your desk for Klavan's cultural segment on Mondays.
00:47:44.000 How would you like to slaughter Mr. Knowles' insolent and pretentious life?
00:47:47.000 You can A. Cut his heart out with a spoon, B. Force choke him, C. Use a wood chipper like Fargo, D. All of the above.
00:47:53.000 Does this appeal to your dark humor, or is it too much?
00:47:56.000 No.
00:47:56.000 No, it is not too much.
00:47:58.000 If you've been watching the show for any amount of time, you know it is far too little.
00:48:01.000 It is far too little.
00:48:03.000 If only I had known that Michael Knowles was sitting at this desk, I would have beaten him to death with it.
00:48:07.000 All right, Joshua writes, as a black man who's not a hardcore leftist, I don't feel I belong anywhere in the political discourse because one side panders to me while doing nothing of substance, the other side has made it clear they don't want me by pandering to alt-right white supremacists.
00:48:19.000 I see myself as fiscally conservative, but every time I see this toxic rhetoric it makes me want to vomit.
00:48:23.000 What do I do?
00:48:23.000 Well first of all,
00:48:25.000 No, that the alt-right represents a very small portion of the Republican base.
00:48:29.000 One of the reasons I've lamented the rise of Trump is because the alt-right's prominence and friendliness with the Trump campaign has led to an impression that the alt-right is a vast bulk of Republicans, when it really isn't.
00:48:41.000 So, you know, I think that if you follow my show, and you think that, you know, the stuff that I say is right, and obviously I'm virulently anti-racist, I hate racism, if you believe that, then you're a conservative, and don't follow party, follow principle, find people you can vote for, people you can vote for, not parties you can vote for, and make sure that they're people you actually can vote for.
00:49:00.000 Trent says, hey Ben, what is your biggest grievance with atheism?
00:49:04.000 Look, I understand the arguments for atheism, I do.
00:49:07.000 My biggest grievance with atheism is twofold.
00:49:09.000 One, atheism fails to explain a moral system whereby human life has unique value.
00:49:16.000 Right?
00:49:17.000 Atheism has to explain why it is that all human beings are created equal, why we all have equal rights.
00:49:22.000 It is not self-evident.
00:49:24.000 Atheism has not historically done so.
00:49:26.000 Atheism has fallen into collectivism because atheism falls into the idea that you have to have some power that is going to right all of the wrongs of birth and the only one capable of doing it is a vast government bureaucracy.
00:49:37.000 So that's my biggest problem with atheism.
00:49:39.000 I think that atheists would be wise to acknowledge the impact of religion on a moral Judeo-Christian culture even if they don't personally believe in God.
00:49:45.000 I think that would be a wise agreement.
00:49:48.000 That doesn't mean, by the way, you have to believe that we're enacting, you know, biblical law in the United States or anything like that.
00:49:55.000 I'm just saying that if you want to acknowledge that fundamental human rights that you believe in are based on something more than atheism, that would be accurate.
00:50:02.000 Joseph writes, is it not hypocritical on the part of Democrats with what they say about Trump by putting Bill Clinton back in the White House?
00:50:07.000 Yes, the Democrats are the bad guys.
00:50:10.000 Okay.
00:50:11.000 Paul says, Ben, is voting for Trump versus a qualified candidate just so I can say, well, I tried, don't blame me, when Trump loses, a valid argument?
00:50:18.000 So let me see if I, the phraseology here is a little awkward.
00:50:21.000 Sorry, scroll up for one second.
00:50:22.000 Is voting for Trump versus a qualified candidate just so I can, uh, no, I don't think that's a valid argument.
00:50:28.000 I think that if you, if you vote for Trump just so that you can say, don't blame me later,
00:50:33.000 I don't think that's a valid argument.
00:50:35.000 I think that if you vote for Trump because you don't want Hillary to be president, then that is a valid argument.
00:50:41.000 But the kind of don't blame me mentality, it doesn't go very far apparently.
00:50:46.000 Let's see.
00:50:46.000 Ben writes, hey Ben, I undoubtedly think the Daily Wire is the best $8 I've spent all month.
00:50:50.000 Indeed it is.
00:50:52.000 But I have trouble getting my fiancé to listen and stay engaged.
00:50:57.000 Have you thought about branching out to be more inclusive to women with a female-hosted show?
00:51:00.000 I've heard Lindsay is pretty popular.
00:51:02.000 All the best.
00:51:21.000 What are your thoughts on Hillary mentioning that the president only has four minutes to make a decision on launching a nuclear weapon?
00:51:26.000 Wouldn't that be considered top-secret information?
00:51:29.000 Yes, because she's terrible and reveals all information, so when she says that Trump can't be trusted with national security, the answer is, lady, have you ever seen a mirror?
00:51:37.000 Okay, final question.
00:51:39.000 No, because this country does not have a history of sexual...
00:51:55.000 You know, bigotry that is nearly as deep as its history of racial bigotry, and people have used that history of racial bigotry as a modern excuse to go out there and rail against the system.
00:52:06.000 I just don't think that the argument that America is a sexist country holds as much popular passion.
00:52:10.000 I don't think either argument holds water, but I don't think it holds as much popular passion as the argument that America is a racist country and now black people in the inner cities have a right to rebel against the system.
00:52:21.000 So, no, I don't expect that Hillary's pitch
00:52:23.000 is going to be as strong as Obama's pitch when it comes to race or sex baiting.
00:52:28.000 Okay, that brings us to the end of today's podcast.
00:52:30.000 However, tomorrow we do have a special Friday podcast because we have hit every Jewish holiday.
00:52:35.000 We are done with the Jewish holidays for this particular year, and we're going to make it up to you by doing a podcast tomorrow, and we'll deconstruct some culture for you, which is always a special Friday treat.
00:52:46.000 So be there or be square.
00:52:47.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:52:48.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.