The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 201 - The Polls Tighten...Does Trump Have A Shot?

00:00:00.000 So, Hillary Clinton thinks religious discrimination is bad.

00:00:03.000 On Thursday, the New York Times ran a report on Muslim parents living in fear of Donald Trump.

00:00:07.000 I had a scary dream about Donald Trump, screamed the headline.

00:00:10.000 Real headline.

00:00:11.000 Muslim parents face a tense election.

00:00:13.000 Here's a segment of the amazing hit piece.

00:00:15.000 This is a quote from the New York Times.

00:00:16.000 It was the morning after the second presidential debate, which the El Charfa family's two youngest daughters watched.

00:00:22.000 In the basement of their Staten Island home with their parents.

00:00:24.000 In the middle of the night, Maria went to her parents' room twice, unable to sleep, and walked to the living room and checked her family's security camera.

00:00:31.000 That morning, Mr. Elcharfa52 asked his daughter what she saw in the nightmare.

00:00:35.000 Quote, he was so mean to us, she said.

00:00:37.000 He had a scary face, like a zombie or something.

00:00:39.000 In the dream, Maria said later, Mr. Trump came to the home of every Muslim family in the country and put each one in jail. 0.80

00:00:45.000 Don't worry, he told his daughter, comforting her, he's just talk.

00:00:49.000 He tried to sound convincing, but her nightmare

00:00:52.000 Unsettled him.

00:00:53.000 This is really true.

00:00:54.000 Like before Halloween in the New York Times.

00:01:23.000 Well, that's fine talk from the same lady who once proclaimed that anyone who did not comply with her views on social leftism ought to give up their religion.

00:01:30.000 In 2015, she said, quote, So much for embracing our heritage.

00:01:32.000 If you won't bake a cake for a gay wedding, time to give up Jesus, like right now. 1.00

00:01:51.000 Hillary is also the same woman whose campaign director, John Podesta, received an email from Sandy Newman of Voices for Progress that calls Catholicism, quote, a Middle Ages dictatorship in need of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic Church. 0.73

00:02:04.000 Podesta issued no challenge to such bigotry.

00:02:06.000 Religious Americans across the country hold our breaths thanks to Hillary Clinton.

00:02:10.000 The Democratic Party seeks to quash religious nonprofits, religious day schools, even nunneries that don't comply with its wishes on everything from abortion to contraception to same-sex marriage.

00:02:20.000 Hillary doesn't get to pretend to defend religion while paving the way for its destruction. 1.00

00:02:24.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:02:24.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:02:30.000 Yes, yes, yes, yes, so much good.

00:02:31.000 Okay, so, alright, I'm so excited, people.

00:02:34.000 The FBI has now reopened its investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails.

00:02:37.000 I'm not joking.

00:02:38.000 This is not an April Fool's prank.

00:02:40.000 This is not an early Halloween trick-or-treat.

00:02:42.000 This is reality, and I will get to all of that in just a second.

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00:03:27.000 Okay, so, big show today.

00:03:29.000 We're going to have on Dana Perrino in just about 20 minutes here. 1.00

00:03:32.000 We'll talk with her about

00:03:34.000 Her new book, Let Me Tell You About Jasper, which is going to hit the New York Times bestseller list, I have no doubt.

00:03:38.000 And we'll also be deconstructing the culture a little bit later.

00:03:41.000 And there's so much to talk about, just generally.

00:03:43.000 But, but, the big news of the day is that the FBI has now dropped a bombshell.

00:03:49.000 Bombshell doesn't really describe it properly.

00:03:51.000 A nuclear warhead onto the Clinton campaign.

00:03:54.000 This is amazing.

00:03:56.000 He sent a letter to eight congressional committee chairmen.

00:03:58.000 Here is the text of the letter.

00:04:00.000 Dear Mr. Chairman,

00:04:02.000 In previous congressional testimony, I referred to the fact that the FBI had completed its investigation of former Secretary Clinton's personal email server.

00:04:09.000 Due to recent developments, I am writing to supplement my previous testimony.

00:04:13.000 In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation.

00:04:20.000 I'm writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation.

00:04:35.000 Although the FBI cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant, and I cannot predict how long it will take us to complete this additional work, I believe it is important to update your committees about our efforts in light of my previous testimony.

00:04:46.000 So Comey doesn't want to be caught out as a perjurer.

00:04:50.000 Saying there was no evidence that she knew that the private server was exposed to hack or there was no evidence that she did it with extreme carelessness.

00:04:57.000 He doesn't want to be caught in a perjury trap.

00:04:59.000 And he also doesn't want to be caught in this particular trap where a bunch of classified emails are revealed that Hillary Clinton knew about and knew were exposed to foreign hack and put on her private server anyway.

00:05:09.000 And then he gets in all sorts of trouble because here's sort of the timeline.

00:05:13.000 A few months ago, he kills the investigation.

00:05:15.000 He says that Hillary should not be indicted by the Department of Justice.

00:05:19.000 And then the next thing that happens is all of these emails start cropping up.

00:05:23.000 What he doesn't want is he knows he's going to have to reopen the investigation in three weeks anyway.

00:05:27.000 He's going to be forced because everybody's going to know the information.

00:05:30.000 And then he'll be accused of being the ultimate political hack.

00:05:32.000 A guy who shut down the investigation just in time to get Hillary Clinton elected and then reopened the investigation right after Hillary Clinton was elected.

00:05:39.000 So to avoid looking like a political hack that he clearly is, he's now going to reopen the investigation and announce it publicly 11 days before the election.

00:05:47.000 So, I mean, this is crazy stuff, gang.

00:05:51.000 The real reason that James Comey shut it down, as everybody knows at this point, is that he was attempting to protect her for the election.

00:05:59.000 He was hoping that that would be the end of it.

00:06:02.000 It was not the end of it.

00:06:03.000 And now it's exposed that he did it for political reasons, and he doesn't want to look super-duper political by reopening it after her election.

00:06:09.000 So it looked like he shut it down the entire time, so he's gonna do it now, 11 days beforehand, so he can put down his marker and he can say, I wasn't political, the FBI wasn't political, we gave you the information as it became available to us, therefore, if you elected Hillary in spite of that, that's your problem, but it has nothing to do with me. 0.97

00:06:24.000 This is James Comey, who is a political hack, covering his political ass. 0.63

00:06:29.000 And it's glorious because now we have two wrongs making a right, right? 0.99

00:06:31.000 This rarely happens in real life.

00:06:33.000 Two wrongs generally don't make a right.

00:06:34.000 In this case, they sort of do.

00:06:36.000 So he originally killed the investigation, which was wrong, and now he's reopening the investigation without giving us all the evidence, which normally would be kind of wrong, except that he never should have shut the investigation in the first place.

00:06:48.000 So it's all hilarious.

00:06:50.000 It is all funny.

00:06:51.000 And watching all of these people on the left running around today and flipping their opinion on James Comey.

00:06:56.000 He went from the great lawgiver, the great lawbringer, the wonderful man.

00:07:00.000 He went from that to political hack, partisan, working for the Republicans.

00:07:04.000 On the Republican side, there are some people who are going right now from, he was the worst partisan hack ever to, honest man, James Comey.

00:07:11.000 Always told you, like that James Comey.

00:07:13.000 And then there's me. 0.90

00:07:14.000 I say he's corrupt all the way through. 0.81

00:07:16.000 He's been corrupt since the beginning. 0.99

00:07:17.000 He's corrupt now. 1.00

00:07:18.000 This is what we call political ass covering. 1.00

00:07:20.000 And fine, I don't care. 0.74

00:07:21.000 The investigation is reopened.

00:07:23.000 And now Americans are going to have to look dead into the face of the actual prospect that the president-elect of the United States, if Hillary is elected, may be arrested and charged.

00:07:32.000 Right?

00:07:32.000 And what's Obama going to do, pardon her right after she got elected?

00:07:35.000 The happiest man, by the way, in America right now is not Donald Trump, who is certainly happy.

00:07:40.000 The happiest man in America is Tim Kaine, who's sitting somewhere going, my God, I could be president in like three weeks here, right?

00:07:46.000 I mean, we're in the actual situation.

00:07:48.000 Where me, this nobody from Virginia who nobody likes and I'm kind of weird, I could be president of the United States just because Hillary could get impeached like the day after she's elected or arrested the day after she's elected and boom! 0.78

00:08:00.000 Look at that.

00:08:01.000 Tim Kaine's the president.

00:08:02.000 Wow.

00:08:03.000 Wow.

00:08:04.000 So, I mean, this is nutty, nutty stuff, folks.

00:08:06.000 I have to give credit to my friend Andrew Klavan.

00:08:11.000 Drew is wrong about a lot of things, but he is correct on this.

00:08:14.000 He's been saying for months that the other shoe is going to drop, right?

00:08:16.000 He's been saying on his show for a long time there'd be one more twist in the campaign.

00:08:20.000 I assume this is the twist in the campaign.

00:08:21.000 If you think this is fun, though, wait till Monday, because I promise you the Democrats have been keeping a bunch of dynamite stored up about Donald Trump in their basement, and they were just going to hold it, because what's the purpose?

00:08:31.000 And now that this is broken, they're going to have to dump every piece of oppo on Donald Trump you've ever not wanted to hear about. 0.93

00:08:37.000 So the Donald Trump horse sex tape will come out. 0.95

00:08:40.000 Monday morning, courtesy of the DNC. 0.91

00:08:42.000 I mean, that's where this is going. 0.98

00:08:43.000 Every piece of garbage about these two candidates will come out, and I am over the moon about all of it because, come on! 0.99

00:08:49.000 I mean, if you can't enjoy the circus, then why pay for the tickets? 1.00

00:08:51.000 So...

00:08:52.000 Wow, this is, I mean, this is just wild stuff.

00:08:57.000 So, Paul Ryan has already released a statement.

00:08:59.000 He says that the Director of National Intelligence should suspend all classified briefings for Clinton until this matter is fully resolved.

00:09:06.000 Well, she's going to be president-elect in like a week and a half if the polls don't shift. 1.00

00:09:10.000 By the way, the polls are shifting in Trump's direction.

00:09:12.000 They have been shifting in Trump's direction.

00:09:14.000 In the RealClearPolitics poll average, he was up like 7 points two weeks ago.

00:09:18.000 That poll average is now down to 4.4 points.

00:09:21.000 In a lot of the swing states, it's still very close.

00:09:23.000 He still has a long haul to make.

00:09:25.000 But my god, I mean, if he can't capitalize off, my opponent is going to go to jail.

00:09:29.000 Right?

00:09:30.000 Or could go to jail, and the FBI just said it.

00:09:33.000 I mean, honest to God, I haven't had time to tweet it yet, but I'm going to, okay?

00:09:37.000 This is Hans Gruber turning to Theo in Die Hard and saying, Theo, you ask for miracles, I give you the FBI.

00:09:45.000 I mean, that's where we are at this point.

00:09:47.000 Okay, so, Bob Goodlatte, who's the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee,

00:09:52.000 He's released a statement about the Comey reinvestigation, quote,

00:10:21.000 Again, this is what happens when you go political.

00:10:23.000 If you're James Comey, this is what happens when you sell your soul.

00:10:25.000 If you sell your soul, it turns out that the devil's going to be there to collect.

00:10:28.000 And the devil is there to collect for James Comey, who now is being condemned by both sides of the aisle as a partisan hack.

00:10:34.000 A guy who had basically a spotless reputation just about eight months ago has now been tarred and feathered as well he should be.

00:10:42.000 And I find the entire thing absolutely hilarious.

00:10:45.000 What's hilarious about it, too, is that the media was prepping their approach.

00:10:50.000 Their approach was going to be—they were doing the same thing in their way that Comey is doing now.

00:10:54.000 The media's approach here was going to be, Hillary's going to win anyway. 1.00

00:10:57.000 Now's the time when we criticize her about her corruption. 1.00

00:10:59.000 This is the game the media play in order to demonstrate that they're not corrupt, even though they are.

00:11:05.000 In order to demonstrate that they're not lefties, even though they are.

00:11:08.000 What the media do is they wait until the most opportune moment for the Democrat, and then they dump all of their criticisms about the Democrat.

00:11:14.000 And then later, when you say, you guys never criticized the Democrats, they say, no, no, we did.

00:11:19.000 And you say, right, that's when your Democrat was already winning.

00:11:21.000 They say, but we did.

00:11:22.000 We did.

00:11:23.000 Remember?

00:11:23.000 We did.

00:11:23.000 We reported on it.

00:11:25.000 Sure, it was when the election was basically over already.

00:11:26.000 That's when we reported on it.

00:11:27.000 So this is the problem for Hillary. 1.00

00:11:30.000 The last week, Democrats, assuming she's going to win, have started to have started to criticize Hillary because they assume it's not going to do any damage.

00:11:38.000 And it plays right into the narrative that she's corrupt. 1.00

00:11:41.000 And then Comey hits them with the bomb. 0.55

00:11:43.000 And boom, Hillary's reindicted. 1.00

00:11:45.000 Right, or she's re-under investigation.

00:11:46.000 It's amazing stuff.

00:11:47.000 So, Chris Matthews, here's Chris Matthews last night, right, criticizing Hillary Clinton under the safe assumption she was going to be elected.

00:11:53.000 Well, I'll make a judgment.

00:11:55.000 Every time I watch the politician engage in a certain pattern of behavior...

00:11:59.000 They go to the White House, they continue to engage in that pattern afterwards.

00:12:02.000 People don't change because we swear them into the White House.

00:12:04.000 They become that person big time.

00:12:07.000 And the Clintons were raising money like this hand over hand back in, hand over fist back in 1996 using, we called it Motel 6.

00:12:13.000 They were bringing, hoarding them in, pulling them in by trainloads of contributors and then letting them sit in the Lincoln bedroom for a while, then charge them by the hour.

00:12:21.000 This is what they did before, this is what they're doing.

00:12:23.000 You can still vote for Hillary Clinton, but remember, you're getting this as part of the package, because that's been their pattern.

00:12:28.000 So Chris Matthews on MSNBC going after her, what appears to be as hard as I would there, right? 0.99

00:12:33.000 This is what Hillary Clinton does, and she's basically a political whore. 1.00

00:12:35.000 I mean, I wouldn't say whore, but she kind of is. 1.00

00:12:37.000 I mean, not like she's standing on the street corner, but it depends on the street corner, and she wears hooker outfits and everything. 1.00

00:12:42.000 I would say, see, go! 0.58

00:12:43.000 Come over to this show.

00:12:45.000 Chris Matthews goes after Hillary really hard there, right?

00:12:48.000 But he's doing that under the assumption she's going to win.

00:12:53.000 Chuck Todd does the same thing.

00:12:54.000 Chuck Todd comes out yesterday, and he's a hack from NBC, and Chuck Todd says, I don't see how the Clintons can even keep the Clinton Foundation going in the face of all of the new information we got earlier this week about them using the Clinton Foundation basically as a front for them to raise money on the side for Bill Clinton's pocket.

00:13:13.000 Look, let me go to the bottom line.

00:13:14.000 There is no way

00:13:16.000 On any circumstance, the Clinton Foundation should be operating if she becomes president. 0.98

00:13:23.000 I just don't see how they keep that going.

00:13:26.000 I just don't.

00:13:27.000 So he doesn't see how they keep, and you can see the Democrats are trying to cover their butts in the media now.

00:13:32.000 And they're doing so by saying, okay, now we're going to criticize Hillary, and that way later when she wins, and you say that we were partial for her, we can point back to comments like this and say, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:13:41.000 We were critical of Hillary Clinton before the election.

00:13:44.000 That's what Comey is doing in his own way as well.

00:13:47.000 But now it's all backfired, because they've made the case this entire week that she's super corrupt and can't be trusted, and then boom, Comey comes back with, we're reopening the investigation into her emails. 0.52

00:13:57.000 So now what do they do?

00:13:58.000 Now what do they do?

00:13:59.000 Because now the election's actually in jeopardy for them, and they're making Trump's case.

00:14:03.000 They're making the conservative case.

00:14:04.000 They're making the Republican case.

00:14:06.000 They're making the case against Hillary Clinton.

00:14:08.000 They were doing so thinking it was all going to be okay for them, and now they did it, and they're going to pay a price because

00:14:15.000 This is going to hurt her really badly.

00:14:17.000 I mean, the election is not far enough out.

00:14:19.000 This is not far enough out that it's not going to hurt her in the polling data.

00:14:23.000 I mean, I'm looking at the polls right now from RealClearPolitics.

00:14:26.000 Here's how close this election still is in a lot of these states.

00:14:29.000 In Florida, Clinton is basically in a dead heat with Donald Trump, which means, given this sort of thing, he probably should win Florida.

00:14:35.000 In Ohio, Trump is up.

00:14:37.000 In Pennsylvania, it's a 5-point race.

00:14:38.000 In New Hampshire, it's a 6.5-point race.

00:14:41.000 But in North Carolina, Clinton's only up by 2.4.

00:14:43.000 This could shift North Carolina back into Trump's category.

00:14:48.000 In Nevada, Clinton's only up by 2.

00:14:49.000 This could shift Nevada back into Trump's category.

00:14:52.000 In Michigan, Clinton's up by 6.

00:14:53.000 In Wisconsin, she's up by 6.7. 0.95

00:14:54.000 In Colorado, she's up by 6.2. 0.77

00:14:57.000 But in none of those states is she running anywhere close to 50%.

00:15:00.000 Trump's at like 37 in Michigan.

00:15:01.000 He's like 38 in Colorado.

00:15:05.000 He's going to lose Virginia, I would assume.

00:15:06.000 But there are some states that are in play here for him.

00:15:09.000 He still needs to pull Wisconsin or Michigan.

00:15:12.000 He still needs to pull some of these states that are a little more outliers.

00:15:14.000 But if this really does damage to her, it could happen.

00:15:18.000 It could happen.

00:15:19.000 This is an election-changing moment.

00:15:21.000 Or it could be if Donald Trump can demonstrate any sort of discipline.

00:15:26.000 If he can demonstrate any sort of discipline and all he should say from now on is James Comey's name.

00:15:30.000 It doesn't matter what the question is.

00:15:31.000 Mr. Trump, did you sexually assault 27 different women in a row at a nightclub in 1997?

00:15:38.000 James Comey.

00:15:40.000 It shouldn't matter.

00:15:41.000 That should be the only thing that comes out of his mouth.

00:15:43.000 Two words that come out of his mouth for the rest of the election cycle, James Comey.

00:15:47.000 That's it.

00:15:47.000 That's all he should say.

00:15:48.000 Just over and over, I've been hypnotized, James Comey.

00:15:52.000 Right?

00:15:52.000 That's all.

00:15:53.000 And if he does that, maybe, maybe he has a shot.

00:15:56.000 Maybe he has a shot, because this is wild.

00:15:58.000 Now, as I say, do I expect that Donald Trump will be able to do that?

00:16:03.000 No, because he hasn't thus far.

00:16:04.000 Do I expect that the Democrats will drop every piece of oppo they have ever found, ever, on anything on Donald Trump in the next several minutes?

00:16:13.000 Yeah, I think that's probably what's going to happen.

00:16:17.000 This is, I mean, this is wild.

00:16:19.000 This is wild stuff, folks.

00:16:21.000 I've never seen anything like it.

00:16:22.000 This entire election is insane.

00:16:24.000 And as just an impartial observer of this election, since, as you know, I'm not for either of these candidates, this is the most highly amusing election.

00:16:33.000 All truths are being revealed by the amount of insanity in this election cycle.

00:16:38.000 We're living inside, I mean, this is, it's better than fiction.

00:16:42.000 It's better than fiction.

00:16:43.000 It really is.

00:16:44.000 Not better than the fiction book I wrote for Allegiance Go Buy It Now, but it's better than all of the other fiction.

00:16:48.000 It really is incredible. 0.98

00:16:49.000 Who would have thought, 11 days out from an election, we're going to see Donald Trump in a courtroom screaming at the judge, you're corrupt! 0.99

00:16:58.000 This verdict's corrupt! 1.00

00:16:59.000 You're all corrupt. 1.00

00:17:00.000 It's all rigged. 0.96

00:17:01.000 And here's the thing, no matter what Comey says for the next week and a half, Trump wins on this issue.

00:17:06.000 If Comey says, yeah, turns out it was no big deal, Trump goes, it was rigged again.

00:17:10.000 And then if Comey comes out and he says, arrest her and put her in jail, he's gonna say, right, lock her up. 0.85

00:17:14.000 It's, I mean, Donald Trump has to be, Kellyanne Conway is over the moon.

00:17:17.000 She's tweeting impolitic things like, we're having a great day in this campaign and this makes it even better.

00:17:23.000 She actually tweeted that.

00:17:24.000 That's Kellyanne Conway, not Trump. 0.99

00:17:25.000 So everybody in the Trump campaign is just over the moon.

00:17:28.000 Also, it shifts the news and the election cycle away from the fact that Donald Trump has severely underspent what he promised he would spend on his own campaign, and has no ground game, and is preparing to go to war with everybody, and is making a day to play for after the election.

00:17:41.000 We don't talk about any of that stuff now.

00:17:43.000 Because a major party candidate is now under reopened investigation.

00:17:47.000 It's absolutely hysterical.

00:17:49.000 I love every second of this that it is possible to love. 0.98

00:17:54.000 If I could have sex with this particular news story, I would ask my wife for permission. 0.99

00:17:59.000 It's unbelievable. 0.99

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00:19:37.000 I would love to talk about other topics today, but actually, I wouldn't.

00:19:42.000 I'd much prefer to talk about this, because this is just the greatest thing that ever happened.

00:19:45.000 Online, everything's exploding, and it's happening in real time.

00:19:49.000 People are just going nuts over this.

00:19:51.000 Hillary Clinton has deplaned.

00:19:53.000 She waved happily and got into an SUV, where she promptly fell down in the backseat unconscious. 1.00

00:19:58.000 When they woke her up, she just started crying hysterically and shouting Huma Abedin's name.

00:20:02.000 Comey is hidden.

00:20:04.000 He hasn't said anything at all.

00:20:07.000 Donald Trump, by the way, announced this at one of his rallies, and the supporters started chanting, lock her up, of course. 0.99

00:20:15.000 Pretty spectacular, pretty spectacular stuff.

00:20:17.000 And the nice thing is that Trump, this is something Trump should be able to do.

00:20:21.000 For the next 11 days, Trump should be able to just say Hillary is corrupt over and over again because this is the one thing that he's good at, right? 0.92

00:20:27.000 So here is Donald Trump yesterday, before this came out, saying, and this is good Trump, right?

00:20:31.000 This is Donald Trump doing the right thing, saying Hillary lives the high life at your expense.

00:20:36.000 The elites in government, like Hillary Clinton, believe they're entitled to do whatever they want. 0.78

00:20:43.000 Hillary Clinton has never earned an honest dollar. 0.81

00:20:48.000 Well, I think that's really, you know... Hey, let's put it this way.

00:20:52.000 What she's done to our country is a disgrace, and she should be ashamed of herself. 0.69

00:21:03.000 She lives the high life at your expense, making money off the rig system, and it is a rig system. 1.00

00:21:09.000 Are you starting to agree with me about the rig system?

00:21:16.000 This is an election between the small handful of people who benefit from the corrupt system and the great majority of American citizens who are the victims of that same corruption.

00:21:29.000 Those who benefit from the corruption will say and do anything to keep it the way it is.

00:21:34.000 They don't want change.

00:21:36.000 Okay, so Trump's whole rigged argument reads a lot better when the FBI is opening and reopening investigations into Hillary for political reasons.

00:21:44.000 It is.

00:21:45.000 Even Trump's jokes that the media are going nuts about right now, they play better because of this news about Comey reopening the investigation.

00:21:52.000 So, for example, Trump joked yesterday that everything is so corrupt they should just cancel the election and make him president.

00:21:57.000 As part of our plan to bring back American jobs, we will lower taxes on our businesses from 35% down to 15%.

00:22:06.000 We'll go from the highest to among the lowest.

00:22:12.000 Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on small businesses up to 45%. 0.96

00:22:19.000 What a difference.

00:22:20.000 You know, what a difference this is.

00:22:22.000 And just thinking to myself right now, we should just cancel the election and just give it to Trump, right?

00:22:30.000 What are we even having it for?

00:22:31.000 What are we having it for?

00:22:33.000 Her policies are so bad! 1.00

00:22:36.000 Why do we have a big difference?

00:22:37.000 Okay, so he drops that and people go nuts.

00:22:39.000 Oh, he's saying we should cancel the election.

00:22:41.000 But one of the points that he's been making is the entire system is rigged and now you have the FBI playing footsie with Hillary Clinton back and forth prepping for the election.

00:22:49.000 It makes all of the conspiracy nuts sound not so nutty anymore when this sort of game is being played with the federal investigative power.

00:22:58.000 It's truly incredible stuff.

00:23:02.000 A lot of the Trump craziness doesn't sound so crazy when this is happening.

00:23:07.000 By the way, in terms of the movement for Trump, there are a lot of people who are jumping back on the Trump train.

00:23:12.000 Just in time, Mike Pence is making the case that everybody should come home to Donald Trump.

00:23:17.000 That somehow, it's time.

00:23:19.000 The time has come.

00:23:19.000 You have to come back.

00:23:20.000 And it's working.

00:23:21.000 It's working, what Pence is saying.

00:23:22.000 I mean, the truth of the matter is, there's only two names on that ballot that have a chance to be President of the United States of America.

00:23:31.000 And while I'll always respect the right of any man or woman to cast their vote in the manner that they seem best, I've got to say to you from my heart, I truly do believe a vote for any candidate other than Donald Trump is a vote for a weaker America at home and abroad.

00:23:50.000 A vote for any candidate other than Donald Trump is a vote for an America that continues to walk away from our highest ideals of life and liberty and our Constitution.

00:24:02.000 And a vote for any candidate other than Donald Trump, bottom line, is a vote to make Hillary Clinton the 45th President of the United States.

00:24:09.000 Thank you.

00:24:40.000 I'm here!

00:24:41.000 Hey Dana, how are you?

00:24:43.000 I'm great, how are you?

00:24:44.000 I think we're in the mutual admiration society, because I think you're amazing.

00:24:47.000 Well, I appreciate that.

00:24:48.000 Thank you so much.

00:24:49.000 Dana has a brand new book out.

00:24:50.000 It's called Let Me Tell You About Jasper, and it's all about her.

00:24:52.000 If you've ever spent any time on Twitter, her dog is like the biggest thing on Twitter.

00:24:58.000 This book is destined for the best out of us, because it really is a feel-good book in a not-so-feel-good time.

00:25:03.000 But Dana, obviously, I want to ask you some questions about the book, but before we get to that, I have to ask what your take is.

00:25:08.000 Yeah, please.

00:25:09.000 And let me tell you, if you don't get to the book, it's fine with me, because we've got a lot of news to cover.

00:25:13.000 Okay, since you've given me the excuse, I promise I will ask a couple questions about the book, but I do want to start by asking you, I need to start by asking you about this Comey announcement that they're basically reopening the investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails.

00:25:27.000 To me, a couple of things are happening.

00:25:29.000 One, the investigation never should have been closed. 0.52

00:25:31.000 Two, this is Comey covering his butt because he knew he was going to have to reopen it, didn't want to wait until after the election to do it because then it would look like he had shut it down for his friend Hillary. 0.63

00:25:40.000 Why do you think that, though? 0.96

00:25:42.000 Why do you think he knew he would have to reopen it?

00:25:44.000 Because I think that he actually has seen emails that suggest that he's going to have to reopen it.

00:25:49.000 So, Pete Williams of NBC News apparently just reported that it wasn't an email that they found, but a device.

00:25:56.000 Oh, wow.

00:25:56.000 Which might have emails on it.

00:25:58.000 Now, I don't know if that's true, but Pete Williams is a pretty solid reporter, and he works at the Justice Department and actually covered the Justice Department since even before I worked there in 2001.

00:26:09.000 So, there might be an actual device.

00:26:12.000 There might be even more emails.

00:26:13.000 It's not her device, apparently, but maybe somebody from the campaigns.

00:26:17.000 Right, so one of the reasons that people are all over this is because of the timing.

00:26:19.000 Obviously, we wouldn't be talking about this so much if it weren't 11 days prior to the election.

00:26:23.000 So, Paul Krugman of the New York Times is going nuts.

00:26:25.000 He says this means Comey's a political hack.

00:26:27.000 Now, people on the right are saying, well, now, back then, back when he got rid of the investigation, he was a political hack.

00:26:34.000 In July, the Republicans called him a political hack.

00:26:36.000 Right, exactly.

00:26:37.000 So now everything has flipped.

00:26:38.000 My feeling is that what's weird about the piece of the letter that he sent, that Comey sent, is that he basically said, we don't even know what we have yet, but I'm just announcing it now.

00:26:48.000 And that's why I think what's happening is that he's concerned that it's going to come out later, that there actually is indictable material on this thing.

00:26:55.000 And he doesn't want to be accused.

00:26:56.000 He doesn't want the FBI to be accused as an institution of having hidden material and hidden information prior to the election to help Hillary Clinton.

00:27:04.000 That's probably right.

00:27:06.000 And the other thing, I think he was facing a little bit of a mutiny from his upper ranks.

00:27:11.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:27:12.000 Several FBI agents saying that they were very unhappy that Comey made that decision.

00:27:17.000 And you're a lawyer, so you would know.

00:27:19.000 And I worked at the Justice Department, so maybe I would know.

00:27:21.000 But it was so unprecedented to me that

00:27:24.000 We're good to go.

00:27:51.000 Right, that's why it was so bizarre when he said he was going to recommend or not recommend.

00:27:54.000 I think you're trying to protect the Justice Department.

00:27:55.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:27:56.000 He was falling on the sword for Loretta Lynch, who by the way, declared today that she actually declared the 5th.

00:28:02.000 She pled the 5th with regard to these Iran ransom payments.

00:28:05.000 So the whole Obama administration is not appearing in a very good light right now.

00:28:09.000 How can you plead the 5th when you're the Cabinet Secretary?

00:28:12.000 It's insane.

00:28:12.000 I mean, she's pleading, and not only a cabinet secretary, she's the attorney general of the United States pleading the fifth.

00:28:16.000 She's the chief law enforcement officer in the country. 0.59

00:28:18.000 Pleading the fifth to what?

00:28:19.000 Like, what's the crime?

00:28:21.000 Right, exactly.

00:28:21.000 What are you worried about?

00:28:22.000 That's weird.

00:28:23.000 I mean, is it possible?

00:28:24.000 I don't know what congressional testimony she'd given on the Iran Rounds campaign.

00:28:29.000 It really does fly in the face of government transparency.

00:28:31.000 If government officials are not accountable to the public and can actually plead the fifth when asked questions about basic governance, that is a problem.

00:28:40.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a disaster.

00:28:41.000 Okay, so what does this mean for the election?

00:28:43.000 We're talking to Dana Perino.

00:28:45.000 Her new book is Let Me Tell You About Jasper, How My Best Friend Became America's Dog, which we'll get to in a minute.

00:28:51.000 But I have to ask you, Dana, you know, we're 11 days from the election.

00:28:54.000 Donald Trump has been gaining in the RealClearPolitics poll average.

00:28:58.000 He's within shouting distance, if not spitting distance, in this election.

00:29:02.000 Most of the swing states he's still down, although several of them are narrow, like places like Florida and Ohio.

00:29:07.000 Do you think that this is enough to shift the election to basically dead heat again, running up to the election?

00:29:14.000 Well, maybe it could get to, like, within two points, right?

00:29:16.000 So she's up about five to six points in the average.

00:29:20.000 Just three points in the Fox poll, I'd point out, but ten points in the NBC Wall Street Journal poll.

00:29:25.000 So I think five to six points is probably correct, and I would have said that as of noon today.

00:29:30.000 Now, can Donald Trump then get this to within two or three points?

00:29:35.000 Yes, maybe.

00:29:38.000 And that's probably where the country is, right?

00:29:40.000 In terms of a polarized electorate.

00:29:42.000 I wanted to take you on a trip down memory lane real quick, because an October surprise like this, a question might arise of, when has an October surprise ever changed the outcome of an election?

00:29:54.000 And I don't know presidential history as well as my co-host on that podcast that I do, I'll tell you what, with Chris Starwell, but I can tell you about 2000.

00:30:03.000 Going into 2000, Gore, in a couple of polls, was up a couple points.

00:30:08.000 In about two or three polls, George W. Bush was up a couple points.

00:30:12.000 So it was really a dead heat.

00:30:15.000 And nobody had Al Gore winning the popular vote, even though he ended up doing so.

00:30:19.000 And it goes to the Electoral College, and obviously we have the recount.

00:30:25.000 It takes 36 days.

00:30:26.000 But what was it that maybe held George W. Bush back from winning outright on that first night?

00:30:33.000 It was when there was an October surprise drop by the Al Gore campaign that George Bush had had a DUI in his early 20s that he had never revealed.

00:30:44.000 Right, exactly.

00:30:45.000 And so it is said, and Karl Rove wrote about it in his book, Courage and Consequence, that about 2-3% of evangelicals decided to stay home.

00:30:56.000 And that made all the difference.

00:30:58.000 Yep.

00:30:58.000 I mean, so this could make a big deal, which brings me to another question, which is, I have to assume at this point that Hillary has to have some sort of stock of Donald Trump opal research that she's going to dump on Monday, because time runs short.

00:31:10.000 Maybe she thought she could live this out, but... Might not be able to wait till Monday.

00:31:13.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:14.000 Five minutes from now.

00:31:14.000 Something like this.

00:31:16.000 Yeah, you have to muddy the waters.

00:31:18.000 Remember, actually, this happened not too long ago, where Hillary Clinton, their team put out something about one of the women attacking Trump, and then he put out something right after that, like an hour later.

00:31:26.000 Oh, it was WikiLeaks!

00:31:28.000 It was Wikileaks.

00:31:29.000 That happened an hour later.

00:31:30.000 I imagine that they probably held something back in the event that they needed to see if they could muddy the waters a bit.

00:31:38.000 Donald Trump has actually never led her in a national poll.

00:31:45.000 But she has been able to widen the gap with him once in August and again in October.

00:31:51.000 But each time, he's been able to close that gap.

00:31:54.000 And just the way that politics works, this is good timing for Donald Trump, obviously.

00:31:59.000 Yeah, it's certainly great timing for Trump.

00:32:01.000 Although, I have to say, it gives you a good reason not to support early voting.

00:32:05.000 Oh, well, yeah, no.

00:32:06.000 I mean, this is a perfect reason.

00:32:08.000 I mean, there are people on the right who have been saying this for years, that early voting is a disservice to the voters because, obviously, new information drops in the last days of a campaign, and this is it.

00:32:16.000 Yeah.

00:32:16.000 And I expect that when Hillary Clinton drops the, as I said earlier, the sex tape of Donald Trump with a horse in three hours, that that'll probably impact the voting as well.

00:32:23.000 So, every bad piece of information about both these candidates will be hanging on the clothesline momentarily.

00:32:30.000 So, all that said— Yeah, the other thing that's gonna— Oh, I'm sorry.

00:32:34.000 Oh, no, go ahead, go ahead.

00:32:36.000 I was going to say, there's another thing that this does for Republicans.

00:32:39.000 And forget about Trump.

00:32:40.000 So Trump's obviously going to take this to the bank.

00:32:42.000 But what it does for down-ballot Republicans, it allows them to not have to talk about Trump for the last week and before the election.

00:32:50.000 That's a great point.

00:32:50.000 That's a great point, especially because some...

00:32:53.000 Yeah, so many people like Nikki Haley are jumping on board, as I mentioned just before you came on.

00:32:56.000 And you're exactly right.

00:32:57.000 Now they get to talk about Hillary instead of about Trump.

00:32:59.000 It's a great, great point.

00:33:00.000 So it could help them really a lot in these Senate races.

00:33:03.000 So Dana, one of the things that people have been talking about and they're worried about is, let's say that Donald Trump is not able to pull this out at the last minute.

00:33:11.000 I'm reluctant to predict.

00:33:12.000 I don't know.

00:33:12.000 I feel like

00:33:33.000 All the gloves have been off for this year.

00:33:34.000 You've been the target of it.

00:33:36.000 So have I. People that you've been friends with for years, or that you at least thought you were ideologically aligned with, maybe you're no longer speaking to them.

00:33:44.000 I have a couple friends like that.

00:33:45.000 I'm like, wow, how did this happen?

00:33:48.000 And I do understand the school of thought that says Hillary Clinton is the great uniter of the Republican Party, but if that were true, then she would be the one that's down in the polls by five to six points, not Trump.

00:34:03.000 Yeah, I think that's right.

00:34:04.000 So, you know, post-election, yeah, do you think that post-election, I've sort of broken it down into three categories on my end.

00:34:10.000 I think that there's the ardent Trumpers, there are the people who are conservative and never Trump, and then there are the establishment folks.

00:34:17.000 And I think that the establishment folks, some of whom are voting, many of whom are voting for Trump to defeat Hillary, some conservatives who are voting Trump to defeat Hillary, I think the question is going to be whether they can come together with the conservative never Trump or whether the Trump

00:34:32.000 Ardent Trump supporters are going to convince the people who voted for Trump while holding their nose that the Never Trumpers were to blame for Trump losing.

00:34:39.000 And so the kind of stabbed in the back myth is going to be the great definer of what happens next.

00:34:45.000 If people believe that Never Trump is responsible for Trump losing, then they're going to be the outcasts.

00:34:49.000 And if people don't believe that, then the people who are sort of the interior Trump group are going to be treated just like any other losing Republican candidate, and they'll sort of fade into the woodwork.

00:35:00.000 That, I think, yes.

00:35:01.000 I'm actually, I think I agree with all that.

00:35:04.000 And I'm really interested, though, on the policy front, what happens.

00:35:08.000 So there's the blame game that will happen, but then going forward, is it a party that unites to fight for free trade or against free trade?

00:35:17.000 Is it the party that unites to push for entitlement reform or one that says, no, we should actually expand entitlements?

00:35:27.000 I think it's even deeper than just character flaws you might find in either candidate.

00:35:33.000 But in Donald Trump, if you don't want to vote for him, and you're thinking he's not a conservative, he's con-artist, all the things that he's been called by Republicans, not just Democrats, then I don't know how you get back to a policy framework where you can agree upon that the Democrats have that.

00:35:50.000 They have a flawed candidate, but they are united in their policy goals.

00:35:55.000 Yep.

00:35:56.000 I think that's a problem.

00:35:58.000 Yeah, well, we're definitely going to have to come.

00:35:59.000 But the way they became united in their policy goals is when they purged the party of any moderates over the past eight years.

00:36:04.000 I mean, it's amazing how they've culled their... But what if they gain a whole bunch of these college-educated whites, especially females? 0.91

00:36:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:36:13.000 Exactly.

00:36:13.000 Then what?

00:36:14.000 And that's a great political realignment, but I don't know what it looks like at the end of two years.

00:36:18.000 Yeah, I agree with you, Dana, and I think that that's one of the things that I've always thought was dangerous about the Trump candidacy is that every growing demographic in the United States is moving significantly out of the Republican column in this election cycle, even if Trump were to win, that's true.

00:36:30.000 So, you know, white college-educated women are moving dramatically out of the Trump column, out of the Republican column. 1.00

00:36:35.000 Hispanics and blacks are moving out of the Republican column.

00:36:38.000 Young people are really moving out of the Republican column, and that's going to have some lasting impact.

00:36:43.000 Not just for policy on the right, but also for policy on the left.

00:36:46.000 If people just buy into the left because they feel the right is so toxic, you could actually see a real upsurge in leftism, unless the right unites around something that's not so toxic.

00:36:55.000 Hopefully, policies that work.

00:36:56.000 Okay, so Dana, I'm honor-bound to ask you about your book now, because you've given us so much time on politics, but for all of us who are going to be, in a week and a half, in two weeks,

00:37:06.000 Everybody is going to be burned out on a lot of this stuff.

00:37:08.000 Your new book, Let Me Tell You About Jasper, How My Best Friend Became America's Dog, is going to be at the top of the New York Times bestseller list for sure.

00:37:15.000 Can you give people a snapshot of what you're going to get from the book?

00:37:24.000 I questioned my publisher on the timing of the release of this book.

00:37:26.000 I said, are you sure?

00:37:27.000 Right in the middle of the election?

00:37:30.000 And they said, by the time we get to there, that date, which was last Tuesday, people are going to want a distraction and a little bit of a lift.

00:37:38.000 What I hope is to help remind people... One, I just wanted to share some joy.

00:37:41.000 Like, I get to write a book about my dog.

00:37:43.000 I can't believe that.

00:37:44.000 I did something a little bit different.

00:37:46.000 I added what I think is some excellent modern art.

00:37:50.000 Computer-generated art through Photoshop by a guy I met on Twitter named FiveHandPhotoshop, and he takes my dog pictures that I post, and he puts them in all sorts of different hilarious scenes throughout American history, art, pop culture, sports.

00:38:04.000 So, I feel like it's a book that's accessible for a lot of people, not just adults, but I also think kids will like it.

00:38:11.000 In fact, Megyn Kelly told me her little boy takes it to bed with him, because I gave them an early copy, and he loves to look at the pictures when he wakes up in the morning.

00:38:19.000 And also, I'm trying to find a way to help people remember that we have a lot more in common than we might think at the end of this election season.

00:38:27.000 Part of that is our love for animals and dogs, and if you've had a pet, then you know what it's like to give them a nickname and to have a best friend when you're feeling blue, and also to help them through the end of their life phase when they die, and that grief that never goes away.

00:38:42.000 And there's some common bonds that we have because of the joy of these animals.

00:38:46.000 Well, the book is Let Me Tell You About Jasper, How My Best Friend Became America's Dog.

00:38:49.000 Guest is Dana Perino.

00:38:50.000 So, Dana, I have to ask you one more question on this.

00:38:52.000 I'm not a dog owner.

00:38:53.000 I've never been a dog owner.

00:38:54.000 And I've had many people trying to convince me to get a dog for years and years and years.

00:38:59.000 And I have a couple of small kids, one two and a half and one just under six months.

00:39:03.000 And I figure that if anyone can make the case for owning a dog, you could probably do it best.

00:39:07.000 So let's hear the pitch.

00:39:10.000 I have a saying that every kid needs a dog and every dog needs a kid.

00:39:14.000 It not only teaches you responsibility, but it softens your heart, and I do think that you become a better human being and a better adult if you grow up with having a dog.

00:39:23.000 I think your kids are a little too young right now, so you're not going to have to run out tonight and find a dog, but I would say when the kids are around seven and six, besides they're going to be lobbying you for one anyway, that's around the time I would get one because they will be better human beings because of it.

00:39:39.000 Okay, well that's actually a solid pitch.

00:39:41.000 Okay, so good news, I get to wait five years before I have to worry about it.

00:39:46.000 But when the time comes, then I'll definitely be listening to that advice.

00:39:52.000 The book is Let Me Tell You About Jasper, How My Best Friend Became America's Dog, The Great Dana Perrino.

00:39:55.000 Thanks so much for joining the show.

00:39:56.000 I'm sure you're going to have a busy day.

00:39:58.000 It'll be a busy day, but what I'm looking forward to is at the end of this election, the first novel I'm going to read is your new one.

00:40:05.000 Oh, I appreciate it.

00:40:05.000 That's very kind of you.

00:40:07.000 Mine is much more depressing than your book.

00:40:08.000 Your book is uplifting.

00:40:09.000 Mine is all death and depression and horror.

00:40:13.000 It'll be my chaser.

00:40:16.000 Exactly.

00:40:16.000 I really appreciate it, Dana Perino.

00:40:18.000 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:40:19.000 Really appreciate it.

00:40:20.000 Bye, Ben!

00:40:38.000 I have no clue.

00:40:40.000 I've given up on predicting this thing.

00:40:42.000 My predictions, in general, have been very accurate thus far.

00:40:47.000 If I have to give a prediction, I don't want to be Debbie Downer today, so I'm not going to tell you that I think that Donald Trump will find a way to screw this up.

00:40:54.000 I mean, just based on previous history, I have a feeling that the media will find some excuse to pick on something that Donald Trump does and then flip the script and make it all about Donald Trump.

00:41:04.000 If he's disciplined, this should help him.

00:41:06.000 Is he too far behind too late in the campaign?

00:41:08.000 My guess is probably yes.

00:41:09.000 But it's going to be, it just, the worst of all possible things is going to happen in this election.

00:41:13.000 I'm not sure what that is yet.

00:41:15.000 But it will happen.

00:41:16.000 That's my main prediction.

00:41:17.000 So, we have to say goodbye to the folks on Facebook.

00:41:19.000 You were really lucky today.

00:41:20.000 You got 45 minutes on Facebook, gang.

00:41:21.000 So, Facebook and YouTube.

00:41:23.000 But if you want to subscribe and watch the rest, we have much more coming here on The Ben Shapiro Show, believe it or not, to the laments of my producers.

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00:41:36.000 Which is coming out in print November 1st, but you can get a signed copy right now if you go to dailywire.com and get an annual subscription.

00:41:42.000 And we thank you, of course, for being a part of the largest conservative podcast in America.

00:41:54.000 All righty.

00:41:55.000 So, in other news, as Dana says, and it's a great point, actually, this is the big distraction Republicans have been looking for so that they don't have to talk about Trump or talk about other problems that they have.

00:42:05.000 One of those problems is Mark Kirk, the senator from Illinois.

00:42:08.000 He was in a debate last night with Tammy Duckworth, who's running for Senate.

00:42:12.000 And this sort of thing doesn't help the image of Republicans.

00:42:16.000 I forgot that your parents came all the way from Thailand to serve George Washington.

00:42:25.000 We'll move on to the next question.

00:42:26.000 This is Bernie Schillenberg.

00:42:27.000 He's saying that's that's kind of racist, right?

00:42:30.000 I mean, he just says for no reason.

00:42:31.000 It's like out of context.

00:42:32.000 He just goes, your parents from Thailand, huh?

00:42:35.000 Like, that's not good.

00:42:37.000 Fortunately, Republicans aren't going to have to talk too much about that today because number one, he's going to lose his seat over that probably.

00:42:42.000 But number two, all of this Hillary news eats everything. 0.95

00:42:46.000 Meanwhile, the the Gary Johnson continues to blow it.

00:42:50.000 So you look at the electoral landscape and you figure here's Donald Trump, who is one of the worst candidates of all time.

00:42:55.000 And here, on the other hand, is Hillary Clinton, who 1.00

00:42:58.000 So, who should benefit from all this?

00:43:00.000 I don't know.

00:43:00.000 Maybe the third party candidate, Gary Johnson.

00:43:02.000 And then you meet Gary Johnson.

00:43:05.000 And here is the libertarian candidate.

00:43:09.000 Boom! 0.99

00:43:09.000 I'd blow my brains out. 0.99

00:43:10.000 If you're saying Trump or Clinton, is that what you're going to say? 0.98

00:43:13.000 Yeah!

00:43:14.000 Baloney! 0.90

00:43:14.000 That's baloney! 0.90

00:43:16.000 Don't ask me that question!

00:43:18.000 I'm giving people their first vote.

00:43:20.000 Same questions.

00:43:21.000 Is it the same questions?

00:43:22.000 You get the same questions again and again and again. 1.00

00:43:23.000 Well, I'm an idiot, you know. 1.00

00:43:25.000 Really. 1.00

00:43:26.000 I'm the dumbest guy that you've ever met in your whole life. 1.00

00:43:30.000 I'm trying to work out if that's sarcasm or not. 1.00

00:43:32.000 It is.

00:43:32.000 I hope it's sarcasm.

00:43:34.000 Here is what you answered, so obviously you're a dummy. 0.99

00:43:37.000 How do you respond to your being a dummy? 0.99

00:43:40.000 Well, I'm not a dummy. 0.97

00:43:42.000 I'm not.

00:43:43.000 And yeah, I'm human.

00:43:50.000 Oh, Libertarians, what did you do? 1.00

00:43:53.000 This could have been your election cycle and then you nominated that guy who looks like he smoked a joint five seconds before he did this interview.

00:44:00.000 He also said today, by the way, he's never engaged in illegal activity.

00:44:04.000 His entire campaign is based on how much he likes pot.

00:44:07.000 So there's that.

00:44:08.000 Yeah, libertarians, finding a way to pull defeat from every victory.

00:44:13.000 Just spectacular.

00:44:15.000 Okay, so, let's do some things I like, and then some things I hate, and then we will deconstruct a little bit of culture.

00:44:20.000 So, things I like when doing graphic novels.

00:44:23.000 One of the graphic novels that I like is Hush.

00:44:25.000 Is 0.88

00:44:45.000 I mean, they're pretty mature, meaning that these are not for kids who are 12 or 13 years old.

00:44:49.000 Hush, Long Halloween.

00:44:50.000 These are more for a little bit older kids.

00:44:52.000 These are like mid-teens or teens, depending on how you're raising your child, but it's a good, this is a good one.

00:44:58.000 This is a solid comic Batman hush.

00:45:02.000 Okay, time for some things I hate.

00:45:08.000 So speaking of comic books, everybody is all up in arms because this one gal who does comic book covers is pretending that she has been just brutally treated. 1.00

00:45:18.000 Her name is Chelsea Kane, and she did this comic book cover. 0.99

00:45:21.000 This is for Mockingbird.

00:45:22.000 So Mockingbird is, I guess, part of the Marvel universe.

00:45:27.000 And the Mockingbird comic has been canceled, I guess, but this was the cover.

00:45:32.000 And the cover says, for those who can't see, it's a beautiful woman in a pink shirt, 0.97

00:45:36.000 Thank you.

00:45:52.000 You know, I'm not that interested in Mockingbird's positions on partial birth abortion.

00:45:56.000 I didn't realize that that was part of the Marvel Universe, but people were apparently saying that they don't like this, and she went crazy. 0.98

00:46:02.000 She quit, and she said that people on Twitter were jerks to her. 0.94

00:46:06.000 And let me just say, as the leading target of 0.96

00:46:11.000 Bleepholery on the internet.

00:46:14.000 I can say that, lighten up. 0.98

00:46:18.000 If people are saying, we don't want to read your stupid comic because it says, ask me about my feminist agenda which has nothing to do with the comic book story, and it's just a piece of propaganda about art, then maybe you shouldn't put propaganda art in the center of your comics. 1.00

00:46:33.000 We're good to go. 0.99

00:46:54.000 We don't need that.

00:46:55.000 We don't need that. 0.90

00:46:55.000 Like, big themes don't require this kind of petty politicking, and this is silly talks. 0.90

00:47:02.000 The Washington Post blamed this on a cult of cavemen-like comic book readers who can be so vitriolic online the industry now stands to lose the talent of a writer such as Chelsea Kane. 0.93

00:47:12.000 Now, nobody actually can give an example of what the harassment is, but they say that it was harassment anyway because this is the way the left works.

00:47:19.000 If people don't like what you're doing, in common, they don't like what you're doing, they equate this to actual harassment.

00:47:23.000 No, harassment is not me asking what this character's abortion position is. 0.99

00:47:27.000 Harassment is me receiving pictures of black babies from prominent 1.00

00:47:32.000 People in the Breitbart empire for tweeting about the birth of my child because of course I'm a cuck. 0.99

00:47:37.000 Harassment is receiving death threats on my voicemail. 0.98

00:47:40.000 Harassment is receiving 7,400 tweets over the past six months that have to do with gas chambers and Jews being shot in the back of the head.

00:47:48.000 That seems a little bit worse than, I don't want to ask you about your feminist agenda, why don't you write a comic book that people want to read. 1.00

00:47:54.000 So that is one of the things I hate.

00:47:55.000 Other things that I hate.

00:47:56.000 University of Texas.

00:47:57.000 I will be visiting University of Texas Austin next week, which will be fun.

00:48:01.000 Speaking at a bunch of colleges next week.

00:48:02.000 I'm speaking at Clemson, I'm speaking at UT Austin, and I believe I'm speaking at TCU.

00:48:06.000 So I should be hitting three colleges next week just before the election, which should be amusing.

00:48:10.000 And University of Texas at Austin is, they've now released

00:48:15.000 A 29-point checklist on offensive Halloween costumes.

00:48:20.000 And this includes that these events must be safe, appropriate, and fun.

00:48:26.000 Well, I mean, I think that the safe and appropriate may have gotten rid of the fun.

00:48:30.000 But the checklist says things like, why are we considering this theme?

00:48:34.000 Is there something specifically powerful or engaging about this particular theme?

00:48:37.000 I didn't realize a Halloween party has to be powerful or engaging.

00:48:41.000 I thought the idea was that the drinks were supposed to be powerful and the girls were supposed to be engaging. 0.97

00:48:45.000 I thought that was the idea behind Halloween parties.

00:48:48.000 Or for ladies, that the guys were supposed to be engaging and the drinks were supposed to be powerful. 0.77

00:48:55.000 Really?

00:48:56.000 Really? 0.98

00:48:57.000 The frat's values, it turns out, are drinking and having sex.

00:49:00.000 So, it aligns pretty well with those values, but...

00:49:04.000 I love how we pretend that all of these are now social justice meetings.

00:49:07.000 It's like we're going to get together and we're going to discuss the agenda for campus allocation of janitorial resources at the Halloween party.

00:49:16.000 Is the theme or costume referring to a living culture or people?

00:49:20.000 If so, are there people continuing to live or practice that culture?

00:49:23.000 I don't understand why we should be biased against dead people.

00:49:25.000 I mean, why does it matter if they're living?

00:49:26.000 What if you're just being mean to ancient pagan culture?

00:49:30.000 I mean, shouldn't they be offended on some level?

00:49:31.000 Are you offending their souls?

00:49:32.000 I mean, they thought that they would still be alive forever.

00:49:34.000 They were pagan. 0.91

00:49:35.000 Is it about a current subculture?

00:49:37.000 Is the theme or costume likely to be reflective of a certain racial group, gender, and or economic class?

00:49:41.000 Okay, that's every costume.

00:49:43.000 Yes.

00:49:44.000 Yes.

00:49:44.000 They will all be reflective of a certain racial group, gender, or economic class.

00:49:48.000 Just telling you.

00:49:49.000 That's it.

00:49:50.000 And I love this.

00:49:50.000 Is it stereotyping, over-sexualizing, or sensationalizing women or transgender people?

00:49:55.000 Have they ever seen a college girl in a Halloween costume?

00:49:59.000 Like, this is a UT.

00:50:00.000 Like, really?

00:50:01.000 Over-sexualizing Halloween costumes?

00:50:04.000 Really?

00:50:06.000 Seriously?

00:50:07.000 Is it sensationalizing women? 0.96

00:50:09.000 First of all, I don't think women need sensationalizing.

00:50:11.000 They're pretty sensational.

00:50:13.000 Is it sensationalizing transgender people?

00:50:16.000 Let me get this straight.

00:50:17.000 If a guy wears a chick outfit as a joke, now you're sensationalizing trans culture? 0.76

00:50:22.000 What if he says I'm not?

00:50:23.000 A transgender person.

00:50:25.000 I'm just a person dressing up.

00:50:26.000 Do you have to identify as transgender to dress up as a transgender? 0.99

00:50:29.000 This is like this stupid thing that happened in Hollywood recently where they suggested that only transgender people could play transgender characters. 1.00

00:50:35.000 You couldn't have a man dressed as a woman playing a transgender. 1.00

00:50:38.000 Forgetting of course that it's called acting.

00:50:40.000 Okay, Halloween is about dressing up in a costume.

00:50:42.000 If we can only dress up as ourselves, Halloween's gonna suck pretty bad this year.

00:50:47.000 And they say, have we consulted with experts?

00:50:49.000 Is it educational?

00:50:50.000 Okay, so we have to consult with experts now.

00:50:53.000 Okay, consider me an expert.

00:50:55.000 Dress up as whatever you want.

00:50:56.000 If people are offended, then perhaps they should lighten up.

00:50:57.000 It's a Halloween party.

00:50:59.000 I just, I love this.

00:51:01.000 While planning your costume, brainstorm costumes with members during a meeting or host a costume check-in session.

00:51:07.000 A check-in session?

00:51:08.000 So what are you going to do?

00:51:08.000 Confiscate the costumes?

00:51:10.000 Everybody goes nude?

00:51:11.000 I mean, that's what the frat party is after three hours anyways.

00:51:13.000 You just skip the first three hours of the frat party and go directly to the point.

00:51:16.000 Okay.

00:51:18.000 Harmful themes or costumes.

00:51:19.000 I love this.

00:51:20.000 Cowboys and Indians. 0.55

00:51:22.000 That's a harmful theme or costume.

00:51:24.000 What if the Indians are beating the cowboys? 0.79

00:51:25.000 Is it still harmful?

00:51:26.000 What if you just want to reenact the General Custer's last stand?

00:51:31.000 Is it still harmful?

00:51:32.000 I'm confused.

00:51:33.000 Gypsies or geishas. 1.00

00:51:35.000 Okay.

00:51:36.000 What if you just want to dress up like a character from Mulan and people think you're a geisha because they don't know anything?

00:51:41.000 And are gypsies people? 1.00

00:51:43.000 I thought they were.

00:51:44.000 Like, I don't understand why if you get in a gypsy outfit not to make fun of gypsies but because gypsies wear cool outfits that this is the end of the world. 1.00

00:51:50.000 South of the border fiestas.

00:51:51.000 You can't dress up as anything south of the border.

00:51:54.000 You can't dress up as Hawaiian or tropical.

00:51:56.000 These are harmful themes or costumes.

00:51:57.000 You can't dress up as Hawaiian or tropical.

00:52:00.000 You can't dress up as pimps and hoes, golf pros and tennis hoes, or trophy wise. 1.00

00:52:05.000 It's seriously on the list. 0.83

00:52:07.000 You can't dress up as urban or ghetto fabulous, no chicks and hicks or rednecks. 1.00

00:52:12.000 You can't do around the world.

00:52:13.000 I don't even know what that means.

00:52:14.000 You can't dress up as anybody from any country now?

00:52:17.000 Anytime you attempt to paint or tint your skin in an attempt to appear to be a different skin tone, race or culture, for example, blackface, 0.79

00:52:25.000 Okay, I sort of agree that that's bad, but you realize they've ruled out every costume that ever was.

00:52:33.000 Like, all the costumes are... So I like this.

00:52:35.000 Seemingly harmless themes can be carried out incorrectly if you don't provide information about costuming.

00:52:39.000 So what you actually need to do is you have to have a disclaimer on the back of your costume explaining precisely what you are and what you are not.

00:52:45.000 You can do a decade or time period routine, but make sure that you don't do, like, the 1850s, because that would be bad.

00:52:51.000 Comic book heroes and villains...

00:52:54.000 You can do.

00:52:55.000 I don't know why.

00:52:55.000 I thought comic books were sexist, as we just found out.

00:52:58.000 You can do sporty.

00:52:59.000 You can rep your favorite team.

00:53:01.000 Wear a jersey!

00:53:02.000 You can also do a Catalina yacht mixer or preppy.

00:53:05.000 So you can dress up as preppy, but not urban.

00:53:06.000 Got it?

00:53:07.000 You can do an alphabet theme.

00:53:09.000 Dress up as a certain letter you select.

00:53:12.000 That sounds like the worst costume I have ever heard.

00:53:15.000 How about numbers?

00:53:15.000 Numbers are offensive.

00:53:16.000 Some are higher than others.

00:53:18.000 You have to be careful about that.

00:53:20.000 And then you can do a when I grow up costume.

00:53:22.000 What if I grow up to be somebody who wants to be free to choose my own Halloween costume?

00:53:25.000 What then?

00:53:26.000 So this is pretty absurd all the way through, but since we have no sense of humor and our goal is to kill all social bonding, then I guess we'll be doing that.

00:53:34.000 So that's very exciting.

00:53:36.000 So well done, colleges.

00:53:37.000 You've just made everything so much better.

00:53:39.000 You know what?

00:53:40.000 We're out of time, so we're going to have to do Deconstructing the Culture next week, gang.

00:53:43.000 Sorry.

00:53:44.000 But that's the way it is, and it's my show, so tough.

00:53:46.000 We'll be back on Monday.

00:53:48.000 It is the Halloween episode.

00:53:49.000 We have a special treat for you on the Halloween episode.

00:53:52.000 I'm not going to tell you what it is, but it is kind of awesome. 0.82

00:53:55.000 So we'll be doing that and we'll see you next week when presumably we will know whether Donald Trump has had sex with a horse and whether Hillary Clinton is going to jail and whether the other of them will be having sex with a horse in jail. 0.97

00:54:05.000 I just don't know. 0.96

00:54:06.000 This entire election cycle is off the hook.

00:54:08.000 It's off the hook to use preppy language.

00:54:11.000 So we will find out what happens on Monday.

00:54:14.000 Have yourself a merry little weekend.

00:54:18.000 And pray to God that he forgives us all our sins, because my God, what did you people do?

00:54:23.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:54:24.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - October 28, 2016

Ep. 201 - The Polls Tighten...Does Trump Have A Shot?

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