The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 210 - Trump White House Takes Shape

For those who thought media bias against Donald Trump would stop after his election to the presidency, Trump's interview with 60 Minutes Conclusively demonstrated just how wrong that idea was. CBS News' Leslie Stahl desperately attempted to blame Trump for violence breaking out across the country against Trump. She said, "Now, Trump, you see, is ignorant, and it's all his fault." Meanwhile, we, in the real world, are all watching mass protests and rioting on our TV against Trump, yet, Stahl worked to make Trump the problem, not the solution. Trump said, I'm very surprised to hear that. I mean, I hate to hear it, but you do hear it." And Stahl responded, "I don't hear it. ... I saw one or two instances. ... But I think it's a very, very small amount." And Trump responded, "I would say don't do that. ... Do you want to say anything to those people? ... I would say, don t do that." And then the rest is downhill from there. In any case, we can jump right into the news and talk about Ring. Ring is a tool that prevents home burglaries and allows you to know who's at your front door, which is always a good idea. Ring. Ben Shapiro: Ring is an item you should know about, and you can know who is at your doorbell, so you can act like you're home. And you can also see who's there! . If you are concerned about home burglary, then you should check out Ring, which prevents burglaries, which allows you know who s there, and can also be at the front door. and what you can do to see who you're there. . . . and what they do. You can also check out our friends at the doorbell. We're good to know that you're at home, and that you can be at your doorstep. if you're not home . . And that you don't know who you are there . and that s there . . you can check it out on Ring is good to be safe and secure and ready to help you keep your house on the job . . and they can help you out! And if you like it or you're looking for a good night out. It's a great place to keep up to date on what's going on.

00:00:00.000 For those who thought media bias against Donald Trump would stop after his election to the presidency, Trump's interview with 60 Minutes conclusively demonstrated just how wrong that idea was.

00:00:09.000 CBS News' Leslie Stahl desperately attempted to blame Trump for violence breaking out across the country against Trump.

00:00:16.000 Here was what Leslie Stahl had to say.

00:00:17.000 She said, quote, 1.00

00:00:40.000 Now, Trump, you see, is ignorant, and it's all his fault. 0.99

00:00:43.000 Meanwhile, we, in the real world, are all watching mass protests and rioting on our TV against Trump. 0.99

00:00:48.000 Yet, Stahl worked to make Trump the problem, not the solution.

00:00:51.000 Here's how their exchange went.

00:00:52.000 Trump said, I'm very surprised to hear that.

00:00:54.000 I hate to hear that.

00:00:54.000 I mean, I hate to hear that.

00:00:56.000 And Leslie Stahl said, but you do hear it.

00:00:57.000 And Trump said, I don't hear it.

00:00:59.000 I saw one or two instances.

00:01:01.000 Leslie Stahl.

00:01:03.000 On social media?

00:01:03.000 Trump.

00:01:04.000 But I think it's a very, very small amount.

00:01:06.000 Again, I think it's Leslie Stahl. 0.96

00:01:08.000 Do you want to say anything to those people?

00:01:09.000 Trump.

00:01:10.000 I wouldn't say don't do it.

00:01:11.000 I would say don't do it.

00:01:12.000 That's terrible.

00:01:13.000 Because I'm going to bring this country together.

00:01:15.000 Leslie Stahl.

00:01:16.000 They're harassing Latinos and Muslims. 1.00

00:01:17.000 Trump.

00:01:18.000 I am so saddened to hear that.

00:01:19.000 And I say stop it.

00:01:20.000 If it helps, I will say this.

00:01:22.000 And I will say right to the cameras.

00:01:23.000 Stop it.

00:01:24.000 Okay, so, we don't have Stahl's original question to Trump, but from the content of the exchange, it seems like she focused almost exclusively on supposed violence by Trump supporters, most of which appears to be unfounded. 0.98

00:01:35.000 This is asinine, and it's also disingenuous.

00:01:38.000 Stahl seems quite concerned about violence surrounding Trump's election, but CBS News held the tape of Trump condemning violence and telling people to cut it out for three days. 0.94

00:01:47.000 If they truly cared about tamping down violence, why not release that tape right away?

00:01:50.000 They released a bunch of other clips from the interview.

00:01:52.000 Well, that's because the media don't care about the violence.

00:01:53.000 They just care about blaming Trump for the violence.

00:01:56.000 It's why the media never put pressure on Obama to condemn riots in cities across the United States, even as Obama and his Department of Justice justified them.

00:02:03.000 It's why the media never cared about asking Hillary Clinton about violence against Trump supporters during this campaign.

00:02:09.000 Violence only matters if it can be blamed on those the left-wing media hates.

00:02:13.000 Otherwise, it's a tool for change.

00:02:15.000 Just ask media darling DeRay McKesson, who was feeded at the White House, or the members of Occupy Wall Street.

00:02:20.000 But if any Republican goes to a Tea Party rally, they're obviously the problem.

00:02:24.000 Don't expect the media to change, but if they don't want to destroy their own credibility permanently, they better start treating more honestly with the American people.

00:02:30.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:02:31.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:02:37.000 Okay, so much to get to.

00:02:38.000 Everybody's getting ready to launch the new Trump White House.

00:02:40.000 We will get to the staffing decisions at the Trump White House in all of their glory and shame in just a moment.

00:02:46.000 But first, we have to say hello to our friends over at Ring.com.

00:02:50.000 So, if you are concerned about home burglary or the possibility thereof, the thing you should know is that what burglars often do is ring the doorbell, determine you're not home, and then break into your house.

00:02:58.000 Ring.com prevents this.

00:02:59.000 They ring the doorbell, and it immediately rings to your cell phone so you can act like you're home.

00:03:03.000 You can also see who's there

00:03:04.000 We're good to go.

00:03:26.000 And stops burglaries, and allows you to know who's at your front door, which is always something that is worthwhile, particularly for me, since I have heard that Steve Bannon is coming.

00:03:35.000 In any case, we can jump right into, let's jump right into the news.

00:03:39.000 Okay, so, at the beginning, let's just say, it is fun to watch the left meltdown.

00:03:43.000 It is really a lot of fun to watch the left lose their minds.

00:03:46.000 And what makes it fun, for me, is the knowledge that the left would lose their minds the exact same way if Ted Cruz had won, or Marco Rubio had won, or hell, if John Kasich had won, 0.93

00:03:55.000 They would still lose their minds and go crazy.

00:03:57.000 So there's a lot of talk about Trump being out of the box.

00:03:59.000 I agree.

00:03:59.000 There's a lot of talk about Trump being uniquely bad in some ways.

00:04:03.000 I agree.

00:04:03.000 But that's not why the left is protesting.

00:04:05.000 The left is protesting because they don't like the idea that conservatives even showed up to vote.

00:04:11.000 They don't like the idea that somebody who's not a Democrat, at least in name, actually is the President of the United States.

00:04:16.000 And so they're going nuts.

00:04:17.000 So here is a little bit of footage from some of these protests.

00:04:20.000 Take over the intersection!

00:04:23.000 This was the scene in downtown Los Angeles for the third straight night.

00:04:27.000 Angry Angelenos taking over the streets in protest of President-elect Donald Trump's victory in Tuesday's election.

00:04:34.000 We reject the President-elect!

00:04:38.000 More than 180 people were arrested in what became a dangerous situation for some officers.

00:04:44.000 We did have an officer who was injured when trying to take someone into custody.

00:04:48.000 That officer was transported to a local hospital and at this time he's in stable condition and he's expected to be released later today.

00:04:56.000 LAPD saying those they arrested had interfered with traffic and vandalized public property including buildings and patrol vehicles.

00:05:03.000 The group growing to several hundred in size.

00:05:06.000 We want our voices to be heard and we will not stand down.

00:05:09.000 There were even some reports of people throwing rocks and bottles at officers and demonstrators who according to police just wouldn't go home.

00:05:18.000 Oh my god, so we need to stop it there. 1.00

00:05:20.000 So these idiots take over the streets in L.A. 1.00

00:05:22.000 to which Trump says, I drink your salty bitter tears, they're delicious. 1.00

00:05:25.000 Like, Donald Trump is going to resign the presidency because a couple of whiny college students from L.A.

00:05:29.000 decided to take over a street in a city that Trump lost every vote in.

00:05:33.000 Like, all these riots, all these protests are taking place in areas where Trump lost, right?

00:05:37.000 It's not like there's any impact on Trump.

00:05:39.000 It's not like there's any impact on the administration.

00:05:42.000 I'm not even sure what they're protesting at this point.

00:05:44.000 Like, there's lots of stuff that Trump is going to do that's probably worthy of protest, but he hasn't done it yet.

00:05:48.000 He hasn't done it yet.

00:05:49.000 Like, maybe later tonight I'll lead a protest against Steve Bannon becoming the White House Chief Counsel or whatever he is, but, like, he hasn't done anything yet.

00:05:56.000 This is all silly talk. 0.96

00:05:57.000 So all these whiny crybabies who are very, very upset and they're walking 0.99

00:06:00.000 I don't 0.98

00:06:23.000 I lost an election.

00:06:24.000 Well, maybe more of you young people should have shown up and actually voted in that election, and then maybe you wouldn't have lost.

00:06:29.000 I mean, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote, but you lost in a lot of these swing states because young people stayed home smoking weed.

00:06:34.000 So young people didn't show up for her.

00:06:36.000 Minorities didn't show up for her. 0.51

00:06:37.000 Who are the people who are actually rioting and protesting?

00:06:40.000 Largely young people and minorities. 0.98

00:06:42.000 So the whole thing is just ridiculous.

00:06:44.000 Naturally, Cory Booker, who thinks he's going to run for president in 2020 against Trump, he's trying to make inroads with these protesters, hoping to jazz them up.

00:06:54.000 I'm sitting here right now having this conversation with you because of the tradition of American protest.

00:07:00.000 I have my rights not because of Washington suddenly deciding, Strom Thurmond and others, hey let's give certain Americans equal rights, but because of the ardent, unyielding voice of protesters.

00:07:11.000 And so when you have a president

00:07:14.000 That is, in his campaign, who ran saying things that not aren't just contrary to fact, but literally threatening to use presidential power in a way that would erode the rights and privileges and equality of large sections of Americans.

00:07:30.000 God bless the protesters.

00:07:32.000 But I will tell you this, I caution anyone who, in their protest, becomes the very thing that they're protesting against.

00:07:40.000 In turning to hateful speech?

00:08:03.000 White House chief, he's not the chief of staff, he's the chief strategist is what they're calling him, which means that he's basically Valerie Jarrett or Karl Rove.

00:08:10.000 It means he has a very heavy portion in the policy making and the direction of the administration.

00:08:17.000 So I've written columns about what I think of Steve.

00:08:20.000 I legitimately think that Steve Bannon is one of the worst people in America.

00:08:23.000 But that doesn't mean that this is the worst thing that's ever happened to the country, that he's the White House chief strategist.

00:08:30.000 I'll explain what's good about this and what's bad about this and what he's actually going to do.

00:08:33.000 And a lot of it is still up in the air.

00:08:35.000 Now, I will say the left are going too far in this.

00:08:37.000 So they're immediately saying that he is anti-Semitic.

00:08:40.000 They're saying that Steve is a white supremacist.

00:08:42.000 You have all these people who are saying that Steve is a white nationalist.

00:08:46.000 Okay, so there's Steve's personal views, and then there's who Steve associates with, and who he's willing to humor.

00:08:53.000 I have no evidence on a personal level, and I worked with Steve for years.

00:08:55.000 I have no evidence on a personal level that Steve's a racist or an anti-Semite.

00:08:58.000 Okay?

00:08:58.000 I've never heard those views come from him.

00:09:01.000 I've never felt anti-Semitism from Steve.

00:09:04.000 Okay.

00:09:05.000 That said, so the left is going too far.

00:09:07.000 When they say, like, there's a big headline at Huffington Post, white nationalist runs White House.

00:09:11.000 Okay, that's too much.

00:09:12.000 It's not true.

00:09:13.000 I don't

00:09:29.000 The number one question I've gotten in texts and questions all day is, is he anti-semitic and racist?

00:09:33.000 As I said, I have no personal knowledge of him personally being anti-semitic and racist.

00:09:36.000 That said, he obviously has pandered to the anti-semitic racist alt-right.

00:09:41.000 The alt-right is a group of people, first of all, let me just say something about the alt-right.

00:09:45.000 Not everyone who says they're alt-right is actually alt-right.

00:09:47.000 There are a lot of people who don't know what it means, they don't know the founding philosophy and ideology of the alt-right.

00:09:52.000 They just think alt-right means that you like to put up peppy memes, or you like to tweet about Harambe. 0.96

00:09:56.000 Or whatever other stupid thing you're doing online and you don't like Paul Ryan and therefore you're alt-right. 0.98

00:10:00.000 That's not what alt-right means. 0.99

00:10:02.000 Alt-right is a philosophy that is exposited by people ranging from Vox State to Richard Spencer.

00:10:07.000 And that philosophy is that Western culture is inseparable from European ethnicity.

00:10:11.000 Okay, it is white nationalism.

00:10:13.000 Alt-right is white nationalism.

00:10:15.000 That's what the root of the philosophy is.

00:10:18.000 That doesn't mean that everybody identifying as alt-right believes that, because some of them are doing it wrong, but it does mean that that is the root of the philosophy.

00:10:24.000 And Bannon knows that. 0.97

00:10:25.000 He's not a stupid man, and he has pandered to those people. 0.96

00:10:28.000 He had Milo Yiannopoulos, who's an alt-right popularizer, write a long piece for Breitbart about how the alt-right was the kind of new legit new right in the United States. 0.94

00:10:36.000 And the actual white supremacists do love Bannon, and they think that Bannon—I mean, Bannon

00:10:40.000 We're good to go.

00:11:00.000 Affinities.

00:11:01.000 And I think that's exactly right.

00:11:02.000 I think that Spencer is correct.

00:11:04.000 Peter Brimelow, another one, he said that Bannon being appointed to the Trump campaign was great news.

00:11:08.000 Okay, so what does that mean?

00:11:09.000 What does that mean that Bannon has elective affinities with the alt-right and that he's warm toward a bunch of white supremacists and anti-semites?

00:11:15.000 And he is warm toward the philosophy of the intellectualized alt-right.

00:11:19.000 What does that mean?

00:11:20.000 Well, it depends on what you think Bannon's actually going to be doing at the White House.

00:11:24.000 So what does he want?

00:11:25.000 Well, Bannon always wants power.

00:11:26.000 Well, now he finally has.

00:11:27.000 He spent a decade accruing power.

00:11:29.000 He kept kind of leaping from politician to politician, riding their coattails.

00:11:32.000 He did it to Michelle Bachmann.

00:11:34.000 He made a documentary about her.

00:11:36.000 And then he hoped to kind of glom onto her success.

00:11:38.000 He did the same thing with Sarah Palin.

00:11:39.000 He did the same thing with Andrew Breitbart before he died, then took over his business.

00:11:42.000 And now he's done the same thing with Trump.

00:11:44.000 And he just picked two winners in a row, Breitbart and Trump.

00:11:47.000 And so he ends up in one of the most

00:11:48.000 Powerful positions in American government.

00:11:50.000 So what will he do?

00:11:51.000 Well, first of all, he will actually target enemies.

00:11:53.000 Bannon is a deeply, deeply vindictive guy.

00:11:56.000 He's somebody who likes to destroy enemies. 0.80

00:11:57.000 It's something he takes pleasure in.

00:11:59.000 He likes to think of himself that way, so it wouldn't be a surprise for me to say this, even to him.

00:12:04.000 And so when I jokingly said earlier this year that if Trump wins, I expect my IRS audit, that was not really a joke.

00:12:10.000 I mean, I think that with Bannon in the White House, I think a lot of people who did not support Trump

00:12:14.000 Sufficiently, and didn't support Bannon and think Bannon's a bad guy.

00:12:18.000 Those people will be targeted by Bannon, or at least there's a good shot they will be.

00:12:22.000 But more importantly, beyond sort of personal vendettas, Bannon's actual agenda is he does not like the Republican Party, which is okay, except that he doesn't like them for the wrong reasons.

00:12:30.000 Bannon is a European far-right populist.

00:12:33.000 That's what Bannon is.

00:12:33.000 He's somebody who believes first and foremost in the idea that we have to have tariffs and we have to assure the continuation of Western civilization by limiting immigration.

00:12:42.000 Not just immigration on the basis of philosophy, just immigration generally has to be limited.

00:12:47.000 He doesn't believe in small government per se.

00:12:49.000 That's not an important thing to him.

00:12:51.000 He's sort of in line with Marine Le Pen, the French National Party leader.

00:12:55.000 We're good.

00:13:10.000 The American right traditionally, the conservative American right, traditionally has said constitutional principles like individual liberty and personal responsibility and limited government.

00:13:19.000 These are the core of Americanism and if you can accept those principles you can come from anywhere and be part of America.

00:13:25.000 That's not what the nationalist right believes.

00:13:27.000 The nationalist right believes close the borders now.

00:13:30.000 We have to stand up for our culture against all other cultures and people can't really integrate into the culture. 0.99

00:13:35.000 Thank you very much.

00:13:56.000 It was going to be the new White House Chief Strategist.

00:14:00.000 They announced that Reince Priebus was going to be the White House Chief of Staff.

00:14:07.000 So there are a few ways to read that.

00:14:08.000 There's the optimistic way to read that, and then there's the pessimistic way to read that, and I'll let you choose.

00:14:12.000 And by the way, I'm trying to be as objective as I possibly can be, given the fact that I have personal distaste for a man that I believe is a destructive force inside the Republican Party, and in the conservative movement generally, and who's out for his own self-aggrandizement.

00:14:24.000 Here's the breakdown.

00:14:25.000 If you're optimistic, Bannon leads the war on the media.

00:14:28.000 He just fights the left media on behalf of Donald Trump, because that's sort of what he did at Breitbart.

00:14:33.000 And Reince handles all of the internal party squabbles and just helps Trump work with Reince, because Reince is very, very close with Speaker of the House Paul Ryan.

00:14:41.000 That's the most optimistic version.

00:14:42.000 That's sort of what Ed Morrissey thinks is happening here.

00:14:45.000 I don't think that's what's happening here.

00:14:46.000 There are other people who say that Bannon was just added as a SOP to the populist base.

00:14:50.000 Really, Reince Priebus is going to be doing the heavy lifting.

00:14:52.000 I don't think that's right either.

00:14:53.000 And the reason I don't think that's right either is because it seems to me that Reince is the weak leg of the stool.

00:14:59.000 Bannon is an alpha.

00:15:00.000 Reince is a beta.

00:15:01.000 Reince is the bag man and Bannon is whispering in Trump's ear.

00:15:05.000 This morning, Reince came out and he was praising Trump, praising Bannon, and here is what he had to say about Bannon.

00:15:11.000 A lot of people are concerned because they look at the website he ran, Breitbart News.

00:15:17.000 As one paper put it, it recently accused President Obama of, quote, importing more hating Muslims, called Bill Kristol a renegade Jew, advised female victims of online harassment to just log off and stop screwing up the internet for men.

00:15:31.000 I guess people are wondering, is this the worldview that Steve Bannon will bring to the White House?

00:15:36.000 Can you let them know anything about him that would be contrary to the website he ran?

00:15:42.000 Sure.

00:15:43.000 And that wasn't his writing.

00:15:45.000 I mean, that was some articles in Breitbart.

00:15:48.000 It wasn't him.

00:15:49.000 Okay, but he was the head of it.

00:15:50.000 The buck stops with him, right?

00:15:53.000 The guy I know is a guy that isn't any of those things.

00:15:56.000 I mean, the guy I know is the guy sitting in an office all day yesterday talking about

00:16:02.000 We're good to go.

00:16:27.000 To put it bluntly, this is a load of horse bleep.

00:16:32.000 What he's saying right now is not true.

00:16:33.000 At Breitbart, the buck absolutely stopped with Bannon.

00:16:37.000 No major piece went up on the website without Bannon's go-ahead.

00:16:41.000 And that's been true for a long time.

00:16:42.000 People have been saying that for a long time.

00:16:44.000 It's true.

00:16:44.000 So the idea that Bannon had nothing to do with the transition toward Trumpsterism and the alt-right is absolutely untrue.

00:16:50.000 When he says that Bannon is temperate, that's just insane.

00:16:53.000 Like, I don't know a single person who knows Bannon, who would describe Bannon as temperate.

00:16:57.000 Bannon can be temperate.

00:16:59.000 He can be charming with people who he thinks he's conning, basically.

00:17:03.000 And Reince, since he spent this entire election cycle massaging Trump's buttocks and the people of those around him, it's not a surprise that Bannon was temperate with him.

00:17:10.000 Why wouldn't he be? 0.91

00:17:11.000 But Reince has to know he's lying.

00:17:13.000 I mean, I can't imagine that Reince has gone this entire election cycle without Bannon screaming at him at least once.

00:17:17.000 That's not, temperate is not the word.

00:17:20.000 It's just absurd all the way through.

00:17:22.000 And this is the problem, right?

00:17:23.000 So the left is wrong about Bannon, but the idea that Bannon's not going to have any say in this White House is really not true.

00:17:29.000 And when it comes to how that breaks down, the problem is, of course, that if Bannon wants to go to war with Reince, like literally an hour after they announced that Bannon would be working with Reince at the White House,

00:17:39.000 Breitbart ran a story about how Ryan should be ousted as Speaker of the House.

00:17:42.000 So if you think that Bannon is just going to sit by while all the policy gets done, yeah, that's not happening.

00:17:49.000 And Kellyanne Conway, who really has turned out to be, I thought this during the campaign, but she's a very, very skilled liar, she talked up Bannon as well on Meet the Press.

00:17:59.000 It was a very small core senior team, probably less than 10 people all told, and I'm sure that everyone will be very important to the president moving forward.

00:18:09.000 I will say this, though.

00:18:10.000 I think having worked with him and known him, Steve Bannon in this particular campaign was the general, and he is much more the Goldman Sachs managing partner and much more the naval officer, I think, than people realize.

00:18:23.000 That's a big part of his background.

00:18:25.000 So what you're saying is he's not, he wouldn't come in to say, let's burn Washington down, proverbially?

00:18:30.000 I think that the president-elect is there to actually implement his first 100-day plan and those around him know that and will appreciate that whether it's within his inner circle on Capitol Hill.

00:18:41.000 We are very grateful in Trump world to both Bannon and Priebus.

00:18:47.000 And I think you'll see them work, continue to work together.

00:18:49.000 We all work very closely.

00:18:51.000 It's a very small.

00:18:51.000 Okay.

00:18:52.000 So look, people are not going to be in the mood to hear bad stuff about Trump right now, which is why I'm trying to be honest about what I think this means.

00:18:59.000 I'll wait to see how it shakes out.

00:19:00.000 But the idea that's being promulgated that Steve is some sort of temperate moderate moderating force in the, in the white house, that just is not true.

00:19:07.000 It's just not true.

00:19:07.000 And if you want lies, then I suggest that you listen to some other show or watch some other show.

00:19:12.000 But I'm not going to lie to you just because Trump won.

00:19:15.000 So we're going to do some serious good Trump, bad Trump in a minute.

00:19:17.000 Because Trump, it's not all bad.

00:19:18.000 I think that Ryan's pick is a good pick.

00:19:20.000 I think that this pick is a bad pick.

00:19:22.000 But we'll get to all that in just a second.

00:19:53.000 In the United States.

The Ben Shapiro Show - November 17, 2016

Ep. 210 - Trump White House Takes Shape

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript