The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 241 - Trump's First Monday: Great, Good, Rotten

Trump signs an executive order banning federal funding for overseas abortions and reinstating the so-called "Mexico City policy" originally created by Ronald Reagan. Is this a one-off? Or is this a permanent policy? And why are so many Americans now pro-life? Is it because science has made it impossible for Americans to deny any longer that abortion does not destroy a human life? Or is it because the pro-abortion left wants to end ultrasounds, a technology that allows us to see a fetus's face before birth? Ben Shapiro explains why. Plus, a bizarre piece from The Atlantic arguing that ultrasounds are actually a form of warfare against women, not a tool allowing doctors to identify problems with fetal development as early as possible. Ben Shapiro: The left's war for abortion now takes no prisoners, and science itself must be fought tooth and nail if women are to keep killing the babies in their wombs. This is an epic episode of Good Trump, Bad Trump, because finally, finally being Trump s president, we don t have to speculate any longer about what he's going to do and what he s going to say, because now he s actually doing something about it! And we ll talk about it all on today s episode of The Ben Shapiro Show. Subscribe to Ben Shapiro's new podcast, Good Trump: Bad Trump! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices. Use the promo code GoodTrumpism to receive $5 and receive $10 off your first purchase when you shop there. Become a supporter of the show Good Trump or Bad Trump: That s Good Trump is Bad Trump is a Bad Trump. Good Trump Is Good Trump s Bad Trump Is Bad Trump s President is Good, Too Good, Good, Not Bad, Too Bad, Not Great, Not Good, And So Much More! Become a Member of the Good Trump Podcasts Club Good Trump's Bad Trump's Club Good, You'll Get Exclusive Discounted Rate & Reviewed by Bad Trump Will Be Great at 5 Starred, Too Effing Good, No Spanky s Good, Great At That Will Be Good At That Too Good at That Will Help You Win a Reviewed By Bad At That's Good At This Is Good At It Too Good Or Not Bad At This Too Good And They'll See That Will Also Help You Get A Better Place Too Good At Worst at That Too Bad at That? And They Say So Much Better at That

00:00:00.000 On Monday, Donald Trump signed an executive order banning federal funding for overseas abortions, reinstating the so-called Mexico City policy originally created by Ronald Reagan.

00:00:09.000 This is terrific news.

00:00:10.000 It should be followed swiftly by ending federal funding for Planned Parenthood.

00:00:14.000 Trump press secretary Sean Spicer bluntly stated, quote, he's a pro-life president.

00:00:18.000 He wants to stand up for all Americans, including the unborn.

00:00:21.000 We can certainly hope that Trump's action on Mexico City policy is not a one-off.

00:00:24.000 And it shouldn't be.

00:00:25.000 Because here's the truth.

00:00:27.000 More and more Americans are now pro-life.

00:00:29.000 As Guy Benson of townhall.com points out, a Numeris poll shows 83% of Americans agree with Trump's actions here.

00:00:36.000 52% of Americans want to limit abortion to rare cases.

00:00:39.000 Another 22% want to outlaw abortion after the first trimester.

00:00:43.000 Under 40% of Americans think abortion is morally acceptable, and there is no gender gap on whether abortion is morally wrong, despite what the Women's March organizers would have Americans believe.

00:00:53.000 So, what's changed?

00:00:55.000 Why are so many Americans now pro-life?

00:00:57.000 Because science.

00:00:58.000 Ultrasounds have made it impossible for Americans to deny any longer that abortion does not destroy a human life.

00:01:05.000 Ultrasounds show the reality of fetal development.

00:01:08.000 Heartbeat by week 6 is a pretty obvious marker.

00:01:10.000 It's no wonder that a reported 78% of pregnant women who see an ultrasound of their child say no to abortion.

00:01:16.000 So naturally, the left wants to end ultrasounds.

00:01:19.000 Planned Parenthood has fought 3D ultrasounds for years.

00:01:21.000 That's the amazing technology that allows you to see your kid's face before birth.

00:01:25.000 As Dr. Elle Lacroix of Planned Parenthood recently said, Torture?

00:01:32.000 How about reality?

00:01:37.000 But according to the pro-abortion left, reality must be ignored.

00:01:40.000 Today, The Atlantic ran a bizarre piece by Moira Weigel titled, in Orwellian fashion,

00:01:49.000 Which is somewhat like saying how the microscope pushed the idea that cells exist, or how the Hubble telescope pushed the idea that there are stars outside our solar system, or how human eyes pushed the idea that the Atlantic is fully insane.

00:02:01.000 The fetus is a person.

00:02:03.000 An ultrasound is a piece of technology that allows you to see the person.

00:02:07.000 The piece itself is actually even worse.

00:02:09.000 Weigel writes, quote,

00:02:23.000 Well, um, yeah, it sort of does.

00:02:26.000 Weigel's science denial here is pretty incredible.

00:02:28.000 Having seen repeat ultrasounds of both my children, the fetal development is clear and undeniable, and it is nearly impossible to see such images without recognizing that there's a child in there, not some random clump of cells.

00:02:39.000 Weigel might talk to an OBGYN or two before declaring ultrasounds vague and uninformative.

00:02:44.000 But Weigel goes even further, assuring readers that ultrasounds were primarily a form of warfare against women, rather than a tool allowing doctors to identify problems with fetal development as early as possible.

00:02:55.000 This is a direct quote from her article now.

00:02:57.000 Army-trained scientists and army-funded laboratories demobilized the technology, turning away from the ocean toward women's bodies. 0.99

00:03:04.000 Ultrasound made it impossible- made it possible for the male doctor to evaluate the fetus without female interference. 0.98

00:03:12.000 Yes, really, this is the ultrasound.

00:03:14.000 It's a war on- on women. 1.00

00:03:16.000 That's basically the argument- Side note here?

00:03:18.000 When my second child was born, my first child had a heart issue that got fixed after she was born.

00:03:23.000 Our second child we actually did an ultrasound of while he was in utero to determine whether he had the same issue.

00:03:28.000 Thank God he didn't, but that wouldn't have been possible without ultrasound.

00:03:32.000 The left's war for abortion now takes no prisoners.

00:03:34.000 Science itself must be fought tooth and nail if women are to keep killing the babies in their wombs. 1.00

00:03:39.000 It's not going to work. 0.54

00:03:40.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:03:41.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:03:47.000 Ah, here we are.

00:03:48.000 And so much to get to.

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00:04:00.000 And there is so much to talk about because he's really active, which is great.

00:04:03.000 You know, good for him.

00:04:04.000 He's actually getting to work.

00:04:05.000 He's not he's not futzing around.

00:04:07.000 So that's a good thing.

00:04:08.000 And he's doing some things that I like and he's doing some things that I don't.

00:04:11.000 But we'll talk about all of that first.

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00:05:53.000 Okay, so finally Donald Trump gets down to business.

00:05:56.000 Finally he gets to work.

00:05:57.000 We're putting aside all of the silliness over the conflicts with the press.

00:06:00.000 And finally Donald Trump is doing stuff.

00:06:02.000 So, what is Donald Trump doing?

00:06:04.000 Well yesterday he signed a bunch of executive orders.

00:06:06.000 And now it's time for us to do what we're going to be doing all

00:06:10.000 All administration alone.

00:06:11.000 We're gonna do some good Trump, bad Trump.

00:06:13.000 And the reason we do this is because it is very important to note when Donald Trump is doing things that are good, and note when he is doing things that are bad.

00:06:19.000 There are lots of people who seem to think that because Donald Trump does some good things, that means you should never critique him when he does bad things or wrong things.

00:06:26.000 This is not my perspective.

00:06:28.000 You can make your own judgment on what you think of Trump.

00:06:30.000 You're an adult.

00:06:31.000 Good for you.

00:06:32.000 And I can make my own judgment.

00:06:33.000 But what I certainly can do is I can tell you the things he's doing that are good and the things that he's doing that are bad so you are more informed coming away from the Ben Shapiro show every day.

00:06:41.000 So, let's play the theme.

00:06:42.000 Good Trump, Bad Trump.

00:06:43.000 Let's do it.

00:06:50.000 So, there was plenty of good Trump to go around yesterday.

00:06:53.000 Yes, plenty of good Trump.

00:06:54.000 So, Donald Trump... By the way, I always thought this was going to be the case, that Donald Trump's first hundred days were going to be filled with things that I liked, and then I thought he was going to go a little bit off the rails after that.

00:07:03.000 But so far, that prediction is on track.

00:07:05.000 So, Donald Trump started off yesterday, as I mentioned, by signing an executive order reinstating the Mexico City policy, which means that your tax dollars now no longer go

00:07:14.000 We think we can cut regulations by 75%.

00:07:41.000 Maybe more, but by 75%.

00:07:44.000 Have in a certain way better protections.

00:07:48.000 But when you want to expand your plant, or when Mark wants to come in and build a big, massive plant, or when Dell wants to come in and do something monstrous and special, you're going to have your approvals really fast.

00:08:04.000 Okay?

00:08:05.000 And the one thing that surprised me, and then I want to hear what you have to say, but the one thing that surprised me in going around and meeting with a lot of the people at this table, and meeting with a lot of the small business owners,

00:08:17.000 If I gave them a choice of this massive tax decrease that we're giving for business, for everybody but for business, or the cutting down of regulation, if I took a vote, I think the regulation wins 100%.

00:08:33.000 Now, in one case, it's hard dollars.

00:08:36.000 And the other case, it's regulation.

00:08:39.000 You would think that the regulations would have no chance.

00:08:42.000 I've never seen anything like it.

00:08:44.000 Virtually everybody is happier with regulation than even cutting the taxes.

00:08:48.000 So the regulations are going to be cut massively, and the taxes are going to be cut way down.

00:08:55.000 So you're going to have now incentive, incentive to build.

00:08:59.000 Okay, so good for Trump.

00:09:00.000 Good for Trump.

00:09:01.000 This is the kind of stuff that he was elected to do.

00:09:03.000 Good for him.

00:09:04.000 So this is another one of his big pitches.

00:09:06.000 Okay.

00:09:07.000 Then we get to a little bit of bad—well, actually, you know, a little bit more good Trump, then we'll get to bad Trump.

00:09:13.000 So, other good Trump.

00:09:14.000 Trump apparently is now looking to chop down the Environmental Protection Agency to size.

00:09:19.000 He apparently has pulled the Center for Disease Control out of some global warming climate change conference.

00:09:25.000 I don't know why the CDC is going to a global warming conference in the first place.

00:09:30.000 As far as the EPA thing, apparently they've got an agency action plan for the EPA that they're putting out right now, and it's great.

00:09:38.000 So they're looking at budget reductions, they're looking at $513 million in cuts to state and tribal assistant grants, $193 million in savings from terminating climate programs,

00:09:49.000 $109 million in savings from environment programs and management.

00:09:52.000 They're going to stop the Clean Air Act greenhouse gas regulations. 0.94

00:09:55.000 So this is this idiotic notion that Congress somehow gave the executive branch the power to crack down on carbon emissions. 0.98

00:10:02.000 It didn't. 0.99

00:10:03.000 So he's going to stop that, which is great.

00:10:05.000 He's going to maybe issue an executive order barring the EPA from overruling federal permit decisions unless in clear violation of established law.

00:10:13.000 Also a good thing.

00:10:14.000 And unless major reforms of the agency's use of science and economics are achieved,

00:10:18.000 E.P.A.

00:10:18.000 will be able to return to its bad old ways as soon as the establishment administration takes office, so they want to destroy the E.P.A.'

00:10:25.000 's ability to twist science in order to push a leftist agenda.

00:10:29.000 All of this is really, really good stuff.

00:10:31.000 So, good for Donald Trump on all of this.

00:10:33.000 This is really excellent.

00:10:35.000 Okay, now it's time for some bad Trump.

00:10:38.000 So, unfortunately I gave you the bad Trump face when I meant the good Trump face, but here's the bad Trump face. 0.57

00:10:42.000 So, Donald Trump, here's some bad Trump.

00:10:45.000 And this is the stuff that I think is more controversial because it presages a split in the Republican Party.

00:10:52.000 All the stuff we've talked about so far, there is unanimity among conservatives that this is good stuff.

00:10:57.000 Cutting down the EPA to size.

00:10:58.000 Cutting down regulations to size.

00:11:00.000 The Mexico City policy.

00:11:02.000 All of this, there's broad consensus among conservatives across the spectrum that this is good, and this is smart, and this is stuff that we care about.

00:11:09.000 And then we get to the stuff that Donald Trump actually cares about the most.

00:11:12.000 The stuff that Donald Trump actually cares about the most

00:11:15.000 is the trade stuff.

00:11:16.000 Because he is a populist nationalist.

00:11:18.000 And here's the part of the Trump agenda that is helping transform the GOP from a traditionally conservative party based on the Reagan idea of limited government, based on the idea of social conservatism, based on the idea of hawkish foreign policy.

00:11:32.000 This is the part of Trump's agenda that really has very little to do with conservatism at all.

00:11:37.000 And we start, actually, with something that I think a lot of Trump's most ardent advocates were pushing him for, but he's apparently now no longer going to do.

00:11:45.000 So, apparently, Donald Trump... Let's just flash back here for a second.

00:11:49.000 Donald Trump promised, and a lot of Republicans pushed Republican legislators to do this in 2014.

00:11:56.000 Republicans promised they were going to get rid of Barack Obama's executive amnesties, that they were going to reinstate the idea that if you are here illegally, there is the potential for your deportation.

00:12:04.000 Barack Obama signed two executive orders, the Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals program, the Deferred Action on Parents of Those Children.

00:12:12.000 Those were his two big executive actions with regard to illegal immigration.

00:12:16.000 And Donald Trump, lest you forget, promised openly throughout the campaign that on day one he was going to get rid of DACA and DAPA. 0.72

00:12:23.000 Here was Donald Trump back in September saying exactly that.

00:12:26.000 Cancel unconstitutional executive orders and enforce all immigration laws. 0.79

00:12:38.000 We will immediately terminate President Obama's two illegal executive amnesties in which he defied federal law and the Constitution to give amnesty to approximately 5 million illegal immigrants.

00:12:57.000 5 million.

00:13:01.000 And how about all of the millions that are waiting in line going through the process legally?

00:13:07.000 So unfair.

00:13:09.000 So, Donald Trump said that way back in September.

00:13:11.000 Now, here's what happened yesterday.

00:13:14.000 Sean Spicer came out and he said this is not a top priority.

00:13:17.000 He said we're not going to get rid of these executive amnesties.

00:13:20.000 Excuse me.

00:13:21.000 We're going to leave them in place.

00:13:23.000 We're going to make sure that we pass some legislation that fixes the whole thing.

00:13:28.000 We're basically going to leave them in place.

00:13:29.000 That was not his pitch during the campaign.

00:13:31.000 And here is the problem.

00:13:32.000 What this now creates is more of a magnet to drive people north of the border, which is what Trump contended during the entire campaign.

00:13:39.000 Mark Krikorian, who's a big Trump advocate and he's at the Center for Immigration Studies,

00:13:43.000 There's a big piece up in National Review today talking about the fact that this is actually a big walk back by Trump.

00:13:50.000 This is Mark Krikorian.

00:13:51.000 Politicians will always disappoint you.

00:13:53.000 Rich tells the story of how during the few hours he was considering a run for New York City Mayor, he found himself already starting to waffle on principle to a potential voter in the elevator.

00:14:01.000 If I were ever so unwise as to run for office, I too would no doubt disappoint those who unwisely voted for me.

00:14:06.000 I was fully prepared for the Trump administration to do some things I wouldn't be happy with.

00:14:09.000 But I expected the problems to arise in the area of foreign worker visas.

00:14:13.000 The president, while running for the nomination, made lots of statements about that.

00:14:16.000 What I did not expect...

00:14:18.000 Ice has enough to do already, but...

00:14:38.000 ICE, right, the Citizenship and Immigration Services, which handles the two-year renewable amnesty program, could easily have stopped processing DACA applications, both for renewals and first-time applicants, until further notice.

00:14:51.000 But that has not happened.

00:14:52.000 Instead, USCIS said, we are still accepting and processing DACA requests under existing policy.

00:14:57.000 So the way DACA works is you send a paper into the government, you say I'm here illegally, and now action on you is deferred.

00:15:04.000 Trump could have paused that program.

00:15:06.000 He's not.

00:15:07.000 Right now there are 800 illegal aliens receiving work permits during the first business day of the Trump administration.

00:15:13.000 And despite the fact that suspending the DACA program would simply require a memo to the USCIS, it's at least possible that this is a snafu, there wasn't that much of a campaign infrastructure, there's time to do this still, or it could be.

00:15:24.000 Or it could be.

00:15:25.000 That Reince Priebus and company were able to convince Donald Trump that it's politically unpopular to get rid of DACA and to target the quote-unquote dreamers and so Trump is leaving that in place.

00:15:35.000 So that is bad Trump.

00:15:36.000 That is not a good thing.

00:15:38.000 Other stuff that is bad Trump.

00:15:39.000 So you remember that Donald Trump promised and he's been promising for weeks that they were going to move the Israeli embassy, the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

00:15:47.000 Here is Sean Spicer yesterday doing his press conference basically suggesting that this is not going to happen.

00:15:52.000 We are at the early stages in this decision-making process.

00:15:55.000 It's not whether, it's when and how.

00:15:59.000 There's a reason you go through a decision-making process, and that's what we're in the process of starting right now.

00:16:04.000 Okay, so when they say they're at the beginning of the decision-making process, there's no decision-making process.

00:16:08.000 You either do it or you don't.

00:16:09.000 He promised he was going to do it.

00:16:10.000 He's not doing it.

00:16:11.000 That is a walk back.

00:16:12.000 So that's that's other bad Trump.

00:16:14.000 I think the biggest bad Trump is something that is very controversial among Republicans, and that is this free trade stuff.

00:16:19.000 So as you know, I'm an ardent advocate of free trade, basically because free trade makes people on both sides of the trade better off.

00:16:25.000 Now there may be people who are disadvantaged by free trade, namely the people who are not competitive in a global market.

00:16:30.000 And those are the people that Trump is pandering to.

00:16:32.000 So, yesterday Donald Trump issues, he writes a memo basically saying that he's going to revoke TPP, right?

00:16:38.000 He signed an order withdrawing the United States from TPP and he said that this order was dedicated to the working man, right?

00:16:45.000 This is the way that he phrased this.

00:16:46.000 It was dedicated to the working man and this is part of his broader anti-free trade, anti-capitalism.

00:16:54.000 Free trade is just part of capitalism, folks.

00:16:56.000 If you don't believe that free trade is part of capitalism, I suggest that you boycott every business with which you actually do business because you want to make yourself richer.

00:17:03.000 It's not going to work.

00:17:05.000 Donald Trump told business leaders today that they have to make their products here or suffer a big border tax is clip 15 if we can play that.

00:17:12.000 The one thing I do have to warn you about, when you have a company here, you have a plant here.

00:17:18.000 It's going to be in Indiana, or it's in Ohio, or it's in Michigan, or it's in North Carolina, or Pennsylvania.

00:17:27.000 Fifty great, wonderful governors to negotiate with.

00:17:31.000 So it's not like we're taking away competition.

00:17:34.000 But if you go to another country and you decide that you're going to close and get rid of 2,000 people or 5,000 people, I tell you, United Technologies was an example with Carrier, and I got involved, you know, two years after they announced.

00:17:48.000 So, in all fairness, that was tough.

00:17:50.000 But United Technologies was terrific, and they brought back many of those jobs.

00:17:56.000 We're good to go.

00:18:13.000 The Senate should have to actually approve it. 0.92

00:18:15.000 I believe in how the Constitution was meant to work.

00:18:18.000 Those are procedural and content aspects of the TPP I don't like.

00:18:21.000 Trump is just pulling us out. 0.92

00:18:23.000 Here is why this is silly.

00:18:24.000 What this ends up doing, China was not a party to the TPP.

00:18:27.000 Trump says we're in competition with China.

00:18:29.000 Trade makes the people who are involved in trade better off.

00:18:32.000 So, instead of us now having a big regional trading bloc in the Pacific,

00:18:37.000 Now China is stepping in and China is now trying to create a reverse TPP with all of the countries that we are trying to create a free trade agreement with.

00:18:45.000 So we killed our own free trade agreement in favor of bilateral trade agreements which are harder to negotiate and organize in certain ways and don't create these vast

00:18:54.000 Free trading swaths.

00:18:55.000 Instead, now we have to negotiate with Philippines, and now we have to negotiate with Korea, and now we have to negotiate with each one of these places bilaterally.

00:19:02.000 They have less interest in doing that than they would in being able to have access to ten markets, just having access to one market.

00:19:07.000 China is extremely happy today.

00:19:10.000 Really, you look at what the Chinese newspapers are saying and they are ecstatic about Donald Trump getting rid of TPP.

00:19:15.000 The other group of people who are ecstatic about Donald Trump getting rid of TPP with no plan to replace it, really, the other group of people are union leaders.

00:19:23.000 Now, I'm old enough to remember when Republicans were skeptical of union leaders like Richard Trumka and the people of the UAW and all these various unions that had signed bad union contracts and helped bankrupt American business.

00:19:34.000 I'm old enough to remember when that was a problem.

00:19:37.000 But now these union folks are coming out and praising Trump to the skies, and the Republicans are saying, yeah, that's great, now the unions are on our side.

00:19:43.000 Well, the question is, what did you have to give up to get the unions on your side?

00:19:47.000 What you had to give up was the American consumer.

00:19:49.000 What you had to give up was some points of growth.

00:19:51.000 In the American economy.

00:19:52.000 What you had to do was sacrifice certain interests to the interests of unions.

00:19:55.000 So now we're pandering to unions in the same way the Democrats pander to unions.

00:19:59.000 Democrats pander to unions by using the National Labor Relations Board in order to cram down bad deals on companies, and Republicans pander to unions with massive tariffs and with anti-trade regulations that allow unions to make a buck off the American taxpayer without actually creating a better product.

00:20:16.000 Here's the union leaders out there yesterday praising Trump.

00:20:19.000 Three million of our members in the United States was nothing short of incredible.

00:20:24.000 And we will work with him and his administration to help him implement his plans on infrastructure, trade, and energy policy, so that we really do put America back to work in the middle-class jobs that our members and all Americans are demanding.

00:20:39.000 Thank you very much.

00:20:40.000 And our people are saying, yeah, win, win, win, because all the union leaders are on our side.

00:20:43.000 Yeah, except for the fact that these union leaders are what made American business non-competitive in the first place in many ways, which is leading to these tariffs, which are impoverishing American consumers.

00:20:53.000 You want to know why Carrier shifted jobs down south?

00:20:55.000 It was because of bad union contracts.

00:20:57.000 It wasn't because of global competition as much as it was because of those bad union contracts.

00:21:01.000 Trump is helping out those unions, but he's not helping out the American consumers.

00:21:05.000 I know there are a lot of people on our side who care more about winning than they do about, you know, basic principles, but the fact is that

00:21:11.000 Winning requires you to win on behalf of a principle.

00:21:15.000 So I'm not sure what principle it is that Trump is standing for on this one.

00:21:19.000 Again, the reason that it's good Trump, bad Trump is because he's doing some good stuff and he's doing some bad stuff.

00:21:23.000 This is just a thing he's doing that is shifting the Republican Party and the nature of it.

00:21:26.000 We'll talk more about the shift in the Republican Party and the nature of the Republican Party.

00:21:30.000 We have to quit Facebook right now.

00:21:32.000 I just can't quit you, but we have to quit Facebook, unfortunately.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - January 27, 2017

Ep. 241 - Trump's First Monday: Great, Good, Rotten

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