The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 245 - Trump: You're Fired!

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00:00:00.000 In their quest to bully everyone in any position of prominence into publicly ripping President Trump, the media have set their sights on New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady.

00:00:08.000 Brady became a campaign issue when, in September 2015, somebody took a photo of a Make America Great Again hat in his locker and said he hoped Trump became president.

00:00:16.000 Trump repeatedly referenced Brady's support on the campaign trail, too.

00:00:19.000 Then, after becoming president, Trump bragged that Brady had called him to congratulate him.

00:00:24.000 All of this prompted USA Today sports writer Nancy Armour to write a piece demanding Brady denounce Trump.

00:00:29.000 Quote,

00:00:45.000 Brady might not agree with Trump's views or his policies, but in refusing to publicly disavow Trump's actions, Brady is giving tacit endorsement to both Trump and the chaos he created.

00:00:54.000 Brady inserted himself into the national firestorm.

00:00:57.000 He can't be surprised that people want to know more.

00:01:00.000 Brady, for his part, has refused to talk about Trump.

00:01:02.000 He said, This follows on the heels of the left's attempt

00:01:21.000 to bully Taylor Swift into more clearly endorsing the Women's March, force companies to reject Trump's executive orders, rip Uber for the crime of providing people at JFK airport rides, destroy Sage Steele for having the temerity to want to make her flight, and blackball Kurt Schilling for likening radical jihadists to Nazis.

00:01:37.000 This is ideological hectoring that frays the social fabric.

00:01:40.000 Voting for Donald Trump doesn't mean you have to defend every decision he makes, any more than voting for Bill Clinton meant you were answerable for his perjury.

00:01:47.000 And turning celebrities into moral guides is always a risky business, given their regular penchant for amorality in any case.

00:01:53.000 Listen, America is rooting against Tom Brady by polling data in the Super Bowl.

00:01:56.000 But that will change if the media decide to declare him the enemy for holding a political opinion of which they do not approve.

00:02:02.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:02:02.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:02:09.000 Okay, so we're gonna get to the so-called Monday Night Massacre in a second.

00:02:12.000 We're gonna debunk some myths about what just happened with Donald Trump firing the acting Attorney General and what exactly happened there.

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00:03:51.000 Okay, so we begin of course with the big story of the morning and of last evening, which is Donald Trump's late-night firing of the assistant, well, the acting Attorney General.

00:04:00.000 So remember, Loretta Lynch is now gone, she's resigned, and Jeff Sessions has not yet been approved, President Trump's pick for Attorney General.

00:04:08.000 And that leaves this lady named Sally Yates. 0.80

00:04:10.000 So Sally Yates was the person who's the acting Attorney General.

00:04:14.000 And she released a statement yesterday in which she suggested that she was not going to enforce or even defend in court the Trump immigration and refugee executive order.

00:04:27.000 And her statement really had nothing to do with the law.

00:04:29.000 Her statement was just grandstanding.

00:04:31.000 It was her saying, I'm not going to defend this law because I don't think it's right.

00:04:34.000 Here's what she actually said.

00:04:35.000 She said,

00:04:35.000 I am responsible for ensuring that the positions we take in court remain consistent with this institution's solemn obligation to always seek justice and stand for what is right.

00:04:44.000 Well, no, actually, that is not your job.

00:04:47.000 Your job is to defend everything under the law, meaning that if there's no reasonable defense of the statute, that's one thing.

00:04:54.000 If there's no reasonable defense of an executive order, that's one thing.

00:04:56.000 If it's unconstitutional, that's one thing.

00:04:58.000 But she doesn't even make that argument.

00:04:59.000 Her statement basically just says, I'm going to do what I think is right as acting Attorney General.

00:05:04.000 Well, no, that's not your job.

00:05:06.000 The Attorney General serves at the pleasure of the President, swears an oath to the Constitution.

00:05:10.000 If you're not claiming that the executive order is unconstitutional, which you can't since it's not, the executive order is not unconstitutional.

00:05:17.000 Immigrants to the country do not have any rights under the Constitution, meaning if you're not yet a citizen, if you're just trying to immigrate, or if you're just a refugee, you don't have rights under the Constitution of the United States. 1.00

00:05:27.000 So clearly this is not unconstitutional.

00:05:29.000 Yates says instead, I just don't feel like doing it, which makes her a hero on the left.

00:05:34.000 So Donald Trump immediately tweets out,

00:05:36.000 The Democrats are delaying my cabinet picks for purely political reasons.

00:05:39.000 We'll talk about that in a second.

00:05:41.000 They have nothing going but to obstruct.

00:05:42.000 Now I have an Obama AG.

00:05:45.000 And then Trump fired her.

00:05:46.000 Right?

00:05:47.000 So the administration on the firing sounds like it was dictated by Trump personally.

00:05:49.000 I mean it really is like it's in full Trumpian language.

00:05:53.000 You can tell.

00:05:53.000 I mean, it goes, the acting Attorney General Sally Yates has betrayed the Department of Justice by refusing to enforce a legal order designed to protect the citizens of the United States.

00:06:04.000 This order was approved as to form and legality by the Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel.

00:06:10.000 Ms.

00:06:10.000 Yates is an Obama administration appointee who's weak on borders and very, very weak on illegal immigration.

00:06:16.000 That's the part that sounds like Trump.

00:06:18.000 And then he goes on talking about it's serious.

00:06:20.000 Time to get serious about protecting our country.

00:06:22.000 He calls for tougher vetting measures for individuals.

00:06:25.000 He says it's reasonable and necessary to protect our country, you know, repeating himself.

00:06:29.000 But, you know, the syntax doesn't matter here.

00:06:30.000 Here's the bottom line.

00:06:32.000 Trump did the right thing here.

00:06:33.000 He had to fire her.

00:06:34.000 And it was clear she was going to be fired from the minute that she started doing this sort of moral preening while working for Trump.

00:06:40.000 It was obvious that she was going to go the way of the dodo bird in this job. 0.58

00:06:43.000 And Trump's spokesperson

00:06:45.000 And while they were going on, of course, we had a Monday night massacre.

00:06:47.000 Sally Yates, a person of great integrity, who follows the law,

00:07:15.000 was fired by the president.

00:07:18.000 She was fired because she would not enact, pursue the executive order on the belief that it was illegal, perhaps unconstitutional.

00:07:30.000 It was a profile in courage.

00:07:32.000 It was a brave act and a right act.

00:07:37.000 President and his people who were in the White House learned something from this.

00:07:43.000 First,

00:07:45.000 That we are a nation that's a rule of law.

00:07:51.000 So what he's saying here is absolute nonsense.

00:07:52.000 No, it does not say that you're a nation that respects the rule of law when the Attorney General refuses to do her job and defend in court measures that are clearly constitutional and clearly legal, or at least arguably legal.

00:08:03.000 What's interesting here is when Schumer, there are two things that are interesting.

00:08:06.000 First of all, when Schumer suddenly says that it's a Monday Night Massacre, we'll talk about that in a second, is this akin to the Saturday Night Massacre when Nixon essentially fired his Attorney General back in 1974 in the middle of Watergate?

00:08:18.000 Is it like that or is it not like that?

00:08:19.000 We'll talk about that

00:08:20.000 In one second.

00:08:21.000 The second thing that he says here that's pretty amazing is he says that she did the right thing that she was saying that it was unconstitutional and illegal.

00:08:28.000 She never says that.

00:08:29.000 Sally Yates never said this was unconstitutional.

00:08:31.000 She never even said it was illegal.

00:08:33.000 Sally Yates basically said I don't feel like enforcing this so I'm not going to.

00:08:36.000 I hate that kind of stuff.

00:08:37.000 In the state of California, we had this situation with our now Senator Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:08:41.000 When she was Attorney General out here in the state of California, Kamala Harris did this routine where she refused to defend Proposition 8. 1.00

00:08:49.000 The people of California voted for traditional marriage, and it didn't make a difference to her.

00:08:53.000 She just refused to defend it in court. 1.00

00:08:55.000 Until Proposition 8 basically was struck down by the Supreme Court on the grounds that no one was willing to defend it.

00:09:00.000 That was gross.

00:09:01.000 It was her job to defend it, whether or not she agreed with it.

00:09:03.000 When your job is to do something, whether or not you agree with it, it's your job to do it.

00:09:07.000 Now, it's amazing, the left is saying that this is just great heroism.

00:09:10.000 I remember when they thought that Kim Davis, you remember her, she's the Kentucky County Court Clerk,

00:09:17.000 There's a stronger case for Kim Davis than there is for Sally Yates here, because the fact is that Yates doesn't even contend this is illegal.

00:09:23.000 At least Kim Davis was saying it's unconstitutional for the Supreme Court to basically write 0.99

00:09:42.000 Same-sex marriage into the Constitution.

00:09:44.000 In any case, the state obviously had the authority to do what it did with Kim Davis, and obviously Trump has the authority to do what he did with Sally Yates.

00:09:52.000 So, as far as the Watergate thing, first of all, I think we should quote here Carl Bernstein.

00:09:56.000 Carl Bernstein was one of the reporters, as in Woodward and Bernstein, who investigated Watergate.

00:10:00.000 He says, trying to liken what Trump just did to Sally Yates to

00:10:03.000 Do you think that she needed to go?

00:10:29.000 There's a big difference, because the Saturday Night Massacre was really about firing the Attorney General when Nixon was the target of an investigation and was actively obstructing justice.

00:10:45.000 I think the President is within his rights here to fire the Attorney General, that he has that ability.

00:10:54.000 And it's not wise that he did, but what's really happened here is that the president and his presidency is in chaos.

00:11:05.000 And it's apparent to all but his most serious defenders and those who are his greatest defenders and advocates, but for Republicans on Capitol Hill, who I'm talking to, who are doubting his abilities,

00:11:23.000 All right.

00:11:32.000 Hundreds of thousands of people who have been going into the streets as a result of this.

00:11:38.000 It's relevant.

00:11:39.000 What Bernstein says about the Monday Night Massacre is relevant. 0.93

00:11:41.000 It's not like the Saturday Night Massacre.

00:11:43.000 Saturday Night Massacre, again, was pursued because Archibald Cox was subpoenaing the Nixon tapes.

00:11:49.000 And Nixon said, no, and I'm going to fire you. 1.00

00:11:52.000 And then he went to his AG and his AG said no, so he fired the AG.

00:11:55.000 So it was an attempted cover-up.

00:11:56.000 Now, was it legal for Nixon to do it?

00:11:58.000 Actually, it was.

00:11:58.000 It was absolutely legal for Nixon to fire the Attorney General.

00:12:02.000 And in fact, there's a solid case to be made that all of these independent prosecutor laws are actually unconstitutional.

00:12:08.000 This is a case that Justice Scalia made back in the 1980s.

00:12:10.000 He said there's a unitary executive, right?

00:12:12.000 The Constitution doesn't say anything.

00:12:14.000 About there being an investigative counsel, some independent counsel, who gets to rove around investigating the President of the United States.

00:12:21.000 In fact, this is what Democrats were saying when Kenneth Starr was doing it under the Independent Counsel Act, which is why they allowed it to expire.

00:12:26.000 So there have been longstanding constitutional and legal questions about whether you ought to have independent counsel doing this.

00:12:32.000 But she's not even independent.

00:12:33.000 Sally Yates isn't even independent.

00:12:35.000 Okay, so she's actually the AG, and so the AG does not get to tell the President that she just doesn't feel like enforcing the stuff that's law.

00:12:42.000 That's silly.

00:12:44.000 Again, it's not unprecedented, it's not like the Saturday Night Massacre, and it is totally legal. 0.92

00:12:48.000 All of it is totally legal.

00:12:50.000 Alan Dershowitz says this too.

00:12:51.000 Alan Dershowitz, he's a Democrat, I've taken class with him at Harvard Law School, and Professor Dershowitz says, obviously, he had every capacity to fire this acting Attorney General.

00:13:02.000 It's a political decision.

00:13:04.000 There's an enormous distinction between green card holders on the one hand, people who are in the country and have to be thrown out on the second hand, and people who are simply applying to get visas.

00:13:15.000 There is also a distinction between what's constitutional, what's statutorily prohibited, what's bad policy, this is very bad policy, but what's lawful.

00:13:25.000 And I think by lumping all of them together, she has made a political decision rather than a legal one.

00:13:31.000 And he's exactly right, and because it's a political decision, not a legal one, that person should be fired, right?

00:13:37.000 And so she was fired.

00:13:39.000 The media are using this as an opportunity to bash Trump, but that's not fair to Trump. 0.80

00:13:42.000 It's actually ridiculous criticism of Trump. 0.59

00:13:45.000 It doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense. 0.66

00:13:47.000 Now as that goes on, the Democrats are using anything as an excuse to try and hold up

00:13:51.000 Anything Trump wants to do, which is kind of shocking.

00:13:53.000 If they were smart, what they'd do is go along with the stuff they like from Trump and then fight him on the stuff they don't like.

00:13:58.000 But there's a mandate now from the donors that they are going to just bash Trump at every opportunity.

00:14:03.000 So today, there are a bunch of Democrats who walked out of their various committees in order to try and hold up the Treasury Secretary nomination of Steve Mnuchin. 0.68

00:14:10.000 I'm not a big Mnuchin fan, but that's ridiculous.

00:14:12.000 It's not going to work.

00:14:13.000 Also, what gain do you get from this?

00:14:15.000 What gain do you obtain from blocking Trump's cabinet nominees?

00:14:20.000 It's one thing to vote against them.

00:14:21.000 It's another thing to not even give them an up or down vote in the cabinet, specifically because, I mean, like, what, do they think that he's going to come back with a Democrat?

00:14:30.000 Or somebody even more Democratic than Mnuchin, who's a lifelong Democratic donor?

00:14:34.000 Like, well, what are they aiming for here? 0.96

00:14:36.000 It's really quite ridiculous. 0.67

00:14:38.000 They're also talking about filibustering Trump's judicial nominee. 0.75

00:14:41.000 They've said that they're going to filibuster it all along.

00:14:43.000 I've been contending for a year, a full year, that they were going to filibuster Trump's judicial nominee and that it was dicey whether Mitch McConnell was going to invoke the nuclear option, whether Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, was actually going to invoke what they call the nuclear option.

00:14:56.000 That means that you take a straight vote on whether to change the filibuster rule.

00:15:01.000 You get rid of the filibuster and then you vote on the justice themselves.

00:15:04.000 It's not clear whether McConnell is willing to do that at all, which is why my prediction is, and I could very well be wrong, I've been wrong before, my prediction is that tonight

00:15:13.000 Donald Trump is probably going to nominate Thomas Hardiman of the Seventh Circuit in Pennsylvania because he's the most stealth candidate.

00:15:21.000 He's the guy who we know least about.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - February 03, 2017

Ep. 245 - Trump: You're Fired!

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