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00:00:21.000So on Friday, for those who are under a rock, 129 people were killed in Paris by Islamic terrorists.
00:00:27.000And I say that advisedly, Islamic, because they are Muslims.
00:00:31.000They are Muslims because they say they are Muslims.
00:00:33.000I do find it supremely ironic that the same group of people who say we can never ever question President Obama's Christianity, because after all he says he's a Christian, say that these Muslims who call themselves Muslims are not in fact Muslims, because we know Islam better than they do.
00:00:47.000Even though we've never read the Quran, we don't know a Muslim, we don't know anything about Islam.
00:00:51.000Clearly, the terrorists are not Muslims because it would be inconvenient for them to be Muslims.
00:00:57.000There is all sorts of commentary over what happened.
00:01:00.000Starting last week, President Obama talked about the Paris attacks and he said they were an attack on all humanity.
00:01:06.000Here's what the President had to say, really as the attacks were still underway.
00:01:12.000Once again, we've seen an outrageous attempt to terrorize innocent civilians.
00:01:19.000This is an attack not just on Paris, it's an attack not just on the people of France, but this is an attack on all of humanity and the universal values that we share.
00:01:34.000I mean, except for Muslims, of course, and of course, except for the universal values of Islam that we don't all share, because the fact is that you've seen tremendously increasing rates of crime in Europe because of the Muslim onslaught.
00:01:46.000You've seen incredibly increasing rates of societal polarization in Europe because of increased Muslim refugee problems and the increasing population of Muslims in Europe.
00:01:57.000It is amazing how the left will craft this little fantasy world for themselves.
00:02:01.000Where a terrorist attack by Muslims on non-Muslims is thus a terrorist attack targeting all of humanity against universal values.
00:02:43.000What we really have here is a law enforcement problem or a problem of terrorism or of extremism.
00:02:50.000And all of this kind of happy talk about Islam and ideology, it does have real ramifications.
00:02:54.000It has very significant ramifications.
00:02:57.000It has ramifications in terms of what we do, for example, about the problem of millions of Muslim refugees now trying to invade the West.
00:03:04.000And it is an invasion, it's a cultural invasion, whether or not these folks are terrorists, if they are coming and bringing along with them an ideology that is completely at odds with Western civilization.
00:03:16.000You don't have to be a terrorist to participate in it, but let's say that you had a society that entirely believes in honor killing, for example.
00:03:22.000And they came into the West, not to commit acts of terror, but just because they liked the living standard in the West.
00:03:27.000And then they insist that the West, okay, they're honor killing.
00:03:36.000Fast forward a couple of days, the same president who says that this is an attack on all humanity and universal values, now the president of the United States says that it would be un-American, un-American, not to accept more Syrian refugees.
00:03:52.000It would be irresponsible and actually un-American not to accept more Syrian Muslim refugees.
00:03:57.000Ted Cruz had suggested over the weekend, Jeb Bush had suggested over the weekend that Christian refugees from Syria should get in, Muslim refugees should not, because we don't know anything about these refugees.
00:04:07.000And if you don't know anything about them other than their religion, pretty safe guess that the Christians who are now being wiped out in Syria will not be terrorists.
00:04:14.000And pretty safe bet that if there are terrorists, they will come from the Muslim population, which doesn't mean all the Muslims coming from Syria are terrorists or want to be.
00:04:22.000What it does mean is that if you are of even mild intelligence, if you even have a basic rational brain, you know that if you're trying to get the risk level to zero, you don't accept Muslim refugees that you haven't vetted.
00:04:46.000The description of the suspect is Islamic.
00:04:48.000We now know that one of the terrorists responsible for the Paris attacks was a Syrian Muslim refugee who was picked up in a boat off the coast of Greece and made his way all the way to Paris before launching this shooting attack.
00:04:59.000We also know that the seven other people who participated were not Buddhists.
00:05:04.000That the explosive vest that they were wearing came from a professional.
00:05:07.000ISIS, by the way, has claimed that they have used the Syrian refugee problem to smuggle over 4,000 terrorists into Europe.
00:05:14.000Even if they're exaggerating by a factor of 100, you're still talking about 40 terrorists who are wandering around in Europe and it took only 7 or 8 to kill 130 people in the middle of Paris.
00:07:06.000The President of the United States, what he's saying by equating Turkey and Jordan and Lebanon, these are all countries that neighbor Syria, understand?
00:07:15.000They have one border, and they share a border with Syria.
00:07:17.000And the fact is that if they didn't keep those borders open, they'd be mowing people down as they tried to cross that border because they are literally coming from Syria directly into Turkey.
00:07:25.000It is also worth noting that the vast majority of Muslim refugees who are coming into Europe, if you look at the Muslim refugees going into Turkey and Lebanon and Jordan, all these surrounding countries, they are 50% men and 50% women.
00:07:36.000The percentage of men in the Muslim refugee population coming to Europe?
00:08:45.000The Arab countries, the Muslim countries in this particular region, have a long and inglorious history of actually keeping their own members, their own co-religionists, in refugee camps literally for decades.
00:08:55.000When Israel was created, there were several hundred Palestinian refugees created by Arabs telling other Arabs, get out, get out of the way, because we're about to go in and kill all the Jews.
00:09:58.000As Israel was created, hundreds of thousands of Jews, hundreds of thousands of Jews were expelled from Arab lands.
00:10:05.000Places like Morocco, places like Jordan, places like Saudi Arabia, places like Syria.
00:10:09.000They were expelled and they ended up in Israel, all of them.
00:10:12.000Why is it that Muslims can't take in other Muslims, but Westerners are supposed to take in other Muslims?
00:10:18.000I mean, that's a question that's worth asking, but Obama won't ask it.
00:10:21.000And he says, in fact, that it's racist and terrible of us to prefer Christian refugees from Syria to Muslim refugees from Syria, which is asinine not only for reasons of terror, but for reasons of culture.
00:10:33.000Christians are going to have a much easier time integrating into Christian societies in Europe and the United States than Muslims are, especially Muslims from areas that are backwards, like places like Syria or Iraq or Libya.
00:10:46.000And the idea that folks are going to come here and they're magically going to integrate is just not true.
00:10:49.000The Somali population that has been inundating Minnesota, there have been a lot of terror problems from Somali populations in Minnesota.
00:10:57.000They've gone back to Somalia, many of them, and participated in war against American troops.
00:11:02.000But President Obama says it's un-American for us to do this.
00:11:05.000It's un-American for us to prefer Christian refugees over Muslim refugees.
00:11:35.000He said we absorbed 9-11 and we even got stronger from it.
00:11:38.000So, if there's a terrorist attack or two, but it doesn't violate our humanity with regard to Islamophobia or whatever nonsense word Obama decides to create today, then of course we'll all be better off.
00:11:50.000Because the question when it comes to these refugees is how many Westerners are you willing to let die in order to accept a given number of refugees you can't vet?
00:11:59.000What level of cultural dissension, what level of cultural dissolution, more specifically, are you going to allow in order to extend a hand to people who are fleeing from an area and hold none of your common values?
00:12:13.000Virtually none of your common values are held by the Syrian refugees who are coming over from the Middle East.
00:12:17.000Just because you're victimized by someone bad doesn't mean that you are also going to get along well with Western civilization.
00:12:23.000It depends who's victimizing you and it depends what you're running away from.
00:12:28.000Not every victim of one group must be somebody who is taken care of by the West, in the sense that we take them in and we try to make them American citizens or European citizens.
00:12:39.000And what's kind of amazing is that Obama, the same guy who ripped Bush for suggesting that Iraq was going to magically transform into a wonderful democracy, right?
00:12:47.000That was pie in the sky, because after all, their culture doesn't allow that.
00:12:50.000He says we should allow Iraq to basically invade Europe.
00:13:17.000He's either a coward, or he is somebody who wants to fundamentally destroy America's role in the world.
00:13:23.000And it's pretty clear it's the latter.
00:13:24.000President Obama, I thought his most telling statement was not that right there about the Syrian refugees.
00:13:29.000I thought his most telling statement is when he said, he was asked about ISIS, and he said in Turkey today, that he could, we could destroy ISIS, we could if we wanted to.
00:13:37.000But then again, that would entail serious resource effort.
00:13:40.000Here's President Obama today in Turkey.
00:13:46.000There have been a few who suggested that we should put large numbers of U.S.
00:13:54.000And keep in mind that we have the finest military in the world, and we have the finest military minds in the world.
00:14:04.000And I've been meeting with them intensively for years now, discussing these various options, and
00:14:15.000It is not just my view, but the view of my closest military and civilian advisors, that that would be a mistake.
00:14:24.000The president went on to say, quote, not because our military couldn't march into Mosul or Raqqa or Ahmadi and temporarily clear out ISIL, but because we would see a repetition of what we've seen before.
00:14:34.000If you do not have local populations that are committed to inclusive governance and who are pushing back against ideological extremists, that they resurface unless you're prepared to have a permanent occupation of these countries.
00:14:45.000In other words, if you have a terrorist group and they occupy a given area, we could push them out, we could kill a lot of them, but unless we're willing to station our troops there forever, then what's the point?
00:15:22.000Why not leave Imperial Japan in power?
00:15:24.000I mean, if we have to occupy them for 70, 80 years, I mean, God, that's gonna be a lot of work.
00:15:30.000The president of the United— I mean, if you applied that same logic to South Korea, South Korea would now be a Chinese protectorate.
00:15:35.000It's an amazing argument, what he's saying.
00:15:37.000It's what we in law school used to call an argument that proves too much, meaning that it's such a broad argument that it encompasses all sorts of really terrible things.
00:15:46.000So basically what he's saying is, leave ISIL in place.
00:15:49.000Well, okay, first of all, let's start with this.
00:15:51.000He says, our military could march into Mosul or Raqqa or Ramadi and temporarily clear out ISIS.
00:16:02.000And let's say it takes them five years to recoup, 10 years to recover.
00:16:06.000What's wrong with going in there, killing as many of them as possible, and then five years later we go in there and we kill more of them, and every five years we just send in some bombers, and every five years we send in some troops and we kill a crapload of them, and then we leave.
00:16:20.000But President Obama has the Colin Powell, you-break-it-you-bought-it idea in mind, which is, if you go in, and if you bomb people, then now you have to run the country.
00:16:28.000And he's averse to running countries, as we've seen from Iraq, where he lost a war that was won.
00:16:32.000And he said, oh, the Iraqi people, they can't take care of this themselves, then we're out.
00:16:37.000Okay, well, the fact is that giving them about five years of security, maybe, right?
00:16:45.000And the surge doesn't really even finish succeeding until 2008.
00:16:48.000So three years of security, and Obama expects there's going to be a full transitional democracy in place in Iraq, capable of taking care of itself.
00:17:23.000And if we have to occupy places like northern Syria to make sure that ISIS doesn't take it over, if we have to set up puppet dictatorships, or if we have to find allies, that means we actually have to grow our military, and he wants to shrink our military.
00:17:36.000Domestic opponents are a bigger priority for him.
00:17:38.000When you see him talking in Turkey, it is absolutely clear that President Obama has less ire toward radical Islamists, toward radical Islam, than he does toward Republicans.
00:17:48.000I mean, at least he believes Republicans exist.
00:17:50.000He won't even admit that radical Muslims exist.
00:17:52.000They don't even exist to President Obama.
00:17:54.000He said in this same speech that ISIS is not Islamic, again.
00:17:58.000Which is odd, considering that their group is not called the Buddhist state in Syria.
00:18:02.000It is called the Islamic state in Syria.
00:18:08.000There's a half good reason for not saying radical Islam, and then there's President Obama's reason, and these are two different reasons.
00:18:15.000Jeb Bush was asked over the weekend about his brother's statements, because George W. had also done this routine, Islam means peace, and there's no such thing as, there is such a thing as radical Islam, but it's a perversion of the religion, said Imam Bush, who knew so much about the Quran.
00:18:30.000And Jeb was asked about it by Jake Tapper, and here's what Jeb Bush had to say.
00:18:39.000I know what Islamic terrorism is, and that's what we're fighting with ISIS, Al Qaeda, all of the other groups, and that's what our focus should be on.
00:18:48.000This is a political ideology that has co-opted a religion.
00:18:52.000And I think it's more than acceptable to call it for what it is and then organize an effort to destroy it.
00:18:58.000Okay, so the reason that George W. used to say things like Islam means peace and all the rest of this is because we were working with the Saudi government and he didn't want to tick off the Saudi government by saying that Islam was a problem or that radical Islam was a problem because the truth is that the Wahhabi ideology was pushed by the Saudi government.
00:19:14.000The Wahhabi ideology stands behind groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS and Al Qaeda and all the rest of these fundamentalist terrorist groups.
00:19:22.000It was a bad reason because the truth is it acts like the West is weak.
00:19:25.000It acts like Islamic civilization is strong and the West is weak.
00:19:29.000The truth is, we are strong and Islamic civilization is tremendously weak.
00:19:33.000And if we wanted the Saudis to do something, the Saudis damn well better do it.
00:19:36.000Because we could wipe them off the face of the earth in about two days.
00:19:39.000I mean, the idea that we've never thrown our weight around really in the Middle East is the truth.
00:19:44.000But if we really wanted to throw our weight around, remember, the Iraqi military was the fourth largest military on the planet.
00:19:50.000It took us three weeks to conquer the entire country.
00:21:26.000I think that's... I don't understand it.
00:21:28.000That would be like saying we weren't at war with Nazis because we were afraid to offend some Germans who may have been members of the Nazi party but weren't violent themselves.
00:21:36.000We are at war with radical Islam, with an interpretation of Islam by a significant number of people around the world who they believe now justifies them in killing those who don't agree with their ideology.
00:23:09.000When I did my book on Hollywood, for example, when I did my Hollywood book, I knew that they would lie to me if I just went in as a right winger and said, do you discriminate against conservatives?
00:23:18.000But if I went in wearing my Harvard Law baseball cap and I said, in the name of social justice, would you prevent a conservative from getting a job?
00:23:25.000They would absolutely say yes, because when talking with their own people,
00:24:00.000They're going to be struggling over limited amounts of water, limited amounts of land to grow their crops, and you're going to see all kinds of international conflict.
00:25:04.000It's been hot in the desert for, like, several hundred thousand years.
00:25:08.000And the idea that the climate changed a certain percentage of a degree Celsius over the last hundred years, and this is what is driving, all of a sudden, a movement of terror.
00:25:16.000So what exactly drove Muslim terrorists to murder Jews in 1929 in Hebron?
00:25:21.000What exactly drove Muslims to side with Nazis during World War II?
00:25:31.000Why is it that farmers in Iowa aren't breaking out the pitchforks on each other, thanks to climate change?
00:25:36.000This idea that you have diminishing resources and therefore violent people fight each other or people get violent that weren't violent before, it's such absolute nonsense.
00:26:27.000So when you see President Obama redistributing through refugees or through failure to go in and wipe out the bad guys, this is all part of a broader agenda.
00:26:39.000is that the West is the great victimizer because we're rich, and anybody who hates us is the victimized because they're poor, and therefore we have to, number one, not bomb them in the Middle East.
00:26:48.000We can't take all the measures we're supposed to take, because after all, that would mean occupation, and long-term occupation is imperialism, and imperialism is bad because it's us imposing our will on them, and it would just make us richer and them poorer, right?
00:27:00.000All of this is tied into a basic fundamental philosophy, and so if you see Obama's statements,
00:27:25.000They invariably redound to America's harm.
00:27:29.000But when you start to see it as part of a global overall picture, part of a worldview,
00:27:33.000Part of a Welton Chang, part of a generalized idea of what the universe is, then it all begins to make a lot of sense.
00:27:40.000When you see that President Obama is, in essence, a Marxist, and that his Marxism drives all of this, that he believes religion doesn't make any difference, ideology doesn't make any difference, just your poverty level makes a difference, once you realize this, this all begins to make sense.
00:27:55.000Paris deserved to be taken down a peg.
00:28:25.000In science, they say bad scientists are the people who take the evidence that contradicts what they're saying and throw it out for the purpose of keeping their hypothesis correct.
00:28:33.000President Obama is a bad scientist, and he's a bad politician, and he's a bad thinker.
00:28:37.000Because when President Obama thinks, anything that doesn't fit into his worldview, such as radical ideologies killing other members of Western civilization, that doesn't fit into his worldview, so he just writes it out.
00:28:53.000If only we were nicer in the first place.
00:28:55.000So long as we think this, we are going to lose.
00:28:58.000Sally Cohn, who's a very fascinating lesbian commentator for CNN—I only say she's a lesbian commentator because this is basically what she's famous for over at CNN—and she tweeted out today, ISIS—what ISIS wants is war.
00:29:11.000They want war, so we shouldn't give it to them.
00:29:24.000And we should want equally to defeat them.
00:29:26.000The fact is, if we're not doing everything in our power to bomb these people forward into the Stone Age, they're not even Stone Age in their mentality, so we'd have to bomb them forward to get to the Stone Age.
00:29:34.000If we want to do anything, bomb them into the Stone Age.
00:29:57.000Unless we send Charlie Sheen, who is the star that we talked about earlier, who may or may not have AIDS, according to the National Enquirer.
00:30:03.000It may be possible for Charlie Sheen to love everybody to death, but that would be a sort of different thing.
00:30:10.000How about, Western civilization is something that is worth fighting for and is something that is worthwhile, and the left's failure to acknowledge that is what is driving our defeat.
00:30:18.000If we don't have pride in our own civilization, how in the world can we hope to defeat a separate, powerful but primitive civilization?