The Ben Shapiro Show - November 17, 2015


Ep. 27 - What the Left Gets Wrong about Islam and Evil

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ISIS
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Ben Shapiro
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Charlie Sheen Barack Obama John Oliver Hillary Clinton John Kerry Trevor Noah Roy Baumeister Magic Johnson Matt Lauer Hitler Jon Stewart Chris Matthews Ted Cruz Clavin Winter Soldier Jonathan Chait James Bond Ted Bundy Psychopathic Camembert and 6 more
Ep. 26 - Why Obama Wants More Muslim Refugees Ep. 28 - The Left's Agenda Is ISIS' Agenda

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On this episode of The Ben Shapiro Show, Ben talks about John Kerry's attempt to paint a picture of Islamic terrorism as an attack on Western civilization, and how it is actually an assault on our collective sense of reason and purpose. He also discusses the perverse nature of Charlie Sheen, and the idea that evil is something that can only be described as out there . in the "closet . and how evil is not something that is out there, it's something that lives in the closet. Ben Shapiro is the host of the conservative podcast "The Weekly Standard" and is a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, CBS, and other media outlets. He is a frequent contributor to The Daily Wire, and has a regular column in the Wall Street Journal, and is one of the most influential people in the world on the internet. He is also a frequent guest on Fox News and CNN, and hosts the conservative radio show "The Situation Room" with John Avlon. and hosts his own show on SiriusXM Radio's "The Avlon Report." on the Fox News Channel, where he's a regular guest host and host of "The View From The Ground" on the Morning Show with Alex Blumberg. Ben also hosts a podcast called "Ben Shapiro's After Hours" with his regular radio show on KWVS-FM in New York City, which he hosts a show called "The Ben Shapiro's Morning Show." and is the author of the book "The Conspiracies" and hosts a new podcast, "The Right Turn" with the late-night radio show, "Soloist Ben Shapiro." Ben is joined by his wife, Rachel Maddow, and his daughter, Rachel, who is a guest on the podcast "Rachel Maddow. . Ben and Rachel discuss the Paris attacks, and Charlie Sheen's new book, "Charlie Sheen's Perverse" and much, much more! Subscribe to Ben's new show on the latest episode of the Ben Shapiro Podcast. Learn more about Charlie Sheen and his life and much more, including his new book "Punishing Charlie Sheen: The Devil Next Door" on his new novel "The Perverse Nature." Click here to learn more about him on the Charlie Sheen is a Man Next Door: How Charlie Sheen Is Killing Us All: How He's Killing Me, Not Me, We're Killing Us, Not Really, Is He Killing Me?

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00:00:00.000 Welcome, welcome to Tuesday's episode.
00:00:02.000 We have a lot to talk about, as always, here on The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:05.000 We're going to talk about the nature of evil, we're going to talk about the nature of Islam, and we are going to talk about the perverse nature of Charlie Sheen. 0.83
00:00:13.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:13.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:20.000 Okay, so we start today with the fact that the Obama administration clearly has no idea about the nature of evil.
00:00:28.000 They have this kind of bizarre notion of what evil is, and this is true for the entire American left and the international left, actually.
00:00:34.000 They believe that evil is just something that's kind of out there.
00:00:37.000 There's this Bond villain somewhere who just wants to commit grievous harm to innocent people.
00:00:42.000 They sit around all day just thinking about
00:00:44.000 How they can chortle over grievous harm to innocent people.
00:00:47.000 It's the idea that evil is not banal.
00:00:50.000 It's nothing that applies to ordinary human beings.
00:00:53.000 It's nothing that you or I could fall into.
00:00:55.000 It's something that normal people could fall into.
00:00:57.000 Normal people, all people, are basically good.
00:01:00.000 People are generally wonderful.
00:01:02.000 They want what's best for their family and for the society around them.
00:01:04.000 They never want to hurt innocents of another religion or religious predilection.
00:01:10.000 No, most people are good.
00:01:11.000 It's just that evil is something that's sort of out of bounds.
00:01:13.000 It's just sort of out there. 1.00
00:01:15.000 And today's emissary of this stupid thought is John Kerry, the emissary of most stupid thoughts, the Secretary of State, the lurch-looking former Winter Soldier testifier. 1.00
00:01:26.000 He was over in Paris and he talked about what he thought drove the Paris attacks that happened last Friday. 1.00
00:01:31.000 It wasn't Islam. 1.00
00:01:32.000 Was it radical Islam?
00:01:34.000 It was something different.
00:01:35.000 It was something that he liked to call evil, but what does that evil look like?
00:01:39.000 Let's let John Kerry describe it.
00:01:41.000 They rape and torture and pillage and call it the will of God. 1.00
00:01:46.000 They are, in fact, psychopathic monsters. 1.00
00:01:50.000 And there is nothing, nothing civilized about them. 0.99
00:01:55.000 So this is not a case of one civilization pitted against another.
00:01:59.000 This is a battle between civilization itself and barbarism.
00:02:04.000 between civilization and medieval and modern fascism, both at the same time.
00:02:11.000 And that is why every single nation-state in the region and around the world is opposed to Daesh.
00:02:20.000 And so the violence, the terror, the senseless murder of 132 people, and injuring of hundreds more, including four Americans, this is an assault not just on France,
00:02:34.000 But coming on the heels of brutal attacks in Lebanon, Iraq, and elsewhere, it is an assault on our collective sense of reason and purpose. 1.00
00:02:44.000 Okay, we can cut this idiot off. 0.99
00:02:46.000 What Kerry says there, notice how, I do love how he says, recent attacks in Lebanon and Iraq and elsewhere. 1.00
00:02:52.000 Elsewhere would be Israel, folks. 0.95
00:02:53.000 Elsewhere would be Israel where they've been experiencing stabbing attacks every single day in Jerusalem and throughout Israel.
00:02:59.000 But we can't mention Israel because that, of course, the Jews don't get to count as part of Western civilization. 0.99
00:03:03.000 There are a couple of strains in what Kerry's saying here that are actually deeply troubling.
00:03:07.000 First of all, he contradicts himself.
00:03:09.000 He says this isn't a battle between civilizations, and then he immediately goes on to say it's a battle between medieval fascism and our civilization, which is a description of a civilization.
00:03:18.000 I mean, ISIS is a functioning state.
00:03:20.000 ISIS collects taxes.
00:03:21.000 ISIS has a healthcare system, believe it or not.
00:03:23.000 ISIS has a system of criminal law.
00:03:25.000 They have people who inspect restaurants, according to people who have been researching this.
00:03:29.000 They have restaurant inspectors.
00:03:30.000 I mean, this is...
00:03:31.000 This is a fully functional civilization.
00:03:33.000 It's a brutal, barbaric, primitive civilization, but it is a civilization.
00:03:37.000 But the language that I want to focus on here is this language of psychopathic monsters and their assault on reason.
00:03:44.000 The idea being that all human beings of every sort, we all have a common humanity.
00:03:48.000 Obama said this on Friday as well.
00:03:50.000 This was just an attack on all of humanity.
00:03:52.000 It wasn't an attack on
00:03:53.000 On any particular subset of humanity, it was all of humanity.
00:03:56.000 It's as though there are these monsters who live in the closet.
00:03:59.000 There are these monsters who live in the closet, and if you open up that closet, then the monsters pop out.
00:04:04.000 It's the same reason that people on the left get very upset if you ever compare anything to Hitler, because Hitler was out of the realm of humankind. 0.67
00:04:11.000 The Nazis were out of the realm of humankind, so we can never use comparisons or analogies. 0.77
00:04:16.000 Because to do so would actually suggest that Hitler was a human being and that his followers were human beings who were capable of evil.
00:04:22.000 And that most human beings, in fact, are capable of evil given the right circumstances.
00:04:27.000 Virtually all human beings, given the right circumstances, are capable of evil.
00:04:31.000 And that's why we actually have to have clashes of civilizations and battles of ideologies and philosophies.
00:04:36.000 Because certain philosophies drive more evil than other philosophies.
00:04:40.000 But according to John Kerry, evil is very easy to take care of.
00:04:43.000 All you have to do is spot the psychopathic monsters, and all you have to do is take out the people who are privy to this assault on reason.
00:04:50.000 And you see this repeated throughout the left-wing press.
00:04:53.000 Trevor Noah, who is the most unfunny person ever to be on Comedy Central.
00:04:56.000 I mean, he should not be on a channel that has comedy in its name.
00:04:59.000 He's the replacement for Jon Stewart, and he's Jon Stewart without the funny faces or even an iota of the talent.
00:05:05.000 Here's Trevor Noah last night talking about France and using exactly the same language as President Obama and John Kerry.
00:05:11.000 It's not an attack on the West by people who oppose the West.
00:05:14.000 No, it's an attack on humanity itself.
00:05:16.000 Here's Trevor Noah.
00:05:18.000 We're all afraid.
00:05:20.000 We replace that fear with anger a lot of the time.
00:05:25.000 But I think
00:05:27.000 What we should try to choose to do is not focus on the perpetrators, because every attack, whether it's Paris, Beirut, Kenya, seems less about a specific group and more about an attack on humanity itself.
00:05:39.000 What in the world is he talking about?
00:05:42.000 What in the world is he talking about?
00:05:43.000 Every attack is an attack on humanity itself.
00:05:45.000 It's less about the perpetrators.
00:05:47.000 Hmm, what do these have in common?
00:05:49.000 Kenya and Lebanon and what just happened in Paris.
00:05:52.000 What do they have in common?
00:05:53.000 I mean, I can't imagine.
00:05:55.000 The only thing they have in common is that they killed humans. 1.00
00:05:57.000 If this is what pops to mind, you maybe have an IQ low enough to be a member of Trevor Noah's audience because this is really, really stupid stuff. 1.00
00:06:05.000 And what's amazing is how self-righteous the left is about this kind of stuff. 0.99
00:06:08.000 They refuse to label the ideology that drives terrorism what it is.
00:06:12.000 They refuse to say radical Islam, which we'll get to in a moment.
00:06:15.000 They refuse in any way to label this a clash of civilizations, because that would be giving ISIS what it wants.
00:06:21.000 We'll get to that argument in a moment.
00:06:23.000 But what they will do is they'll self-righteously proclaim that they're against the enemies of humanity, as though this grants them any sort of special status, as though they're real heroes for being against the enemies of humanity.
00:06:33.000 As though this is a sequel to The Avengers and there are a bunch of aliens coming from outer space and all we have to do is just fight those aliens and everything will be all better.
00:06:41.000 They're not human beings the people we're fighting.
00:06:43.000 They're completely othered. 0.95
00:06:44.000 What's amazing about folks on the left is you hear them use this language all the time with regard to gays and blacks and Jews and Hispanics and every other subgroup.
00:06:52.000 You can't other people. 0.84
00:06:54.000 You can't have outsider groups.
00:06:56.000 You don't want to other people and make them feel not accepted.
00:06:58.000 So what's the first thing they do?
00:07:00.000 Whoever they deem evil is now othered.
00:07:02.000 They're no longer part of humanity.
00:07:04.000 Right?
00:07:04.000 We can't acknowledge that they are motivated by evil ideology.
00:07:07.000 We can't even discuss what truly motivates evil, which I want to discuss in a second.
00:07:10.000 No, we have to feel good about ourselves by just saying, they're evil.
00:07:14.000 And then we don't have to investigate what it is that drives them.
00:07:16.000 We don't have to take them seriously.
00:07:18.000 All we have to do is put them in this little box labeled monsters and then that grants us the ability to go about our daily business without having to worry about what actually generates monsters like this.
00:07:27.000 What creates these monsters?
00:07:29.000 They don't come from nowhere. 0.97
00:07:30.000 They're not just born sociopaths.
00:07:31.000 The number of sociopaths in human society is unbelievably low.
00:07:35.000 By percentage.
00:07:35.000 The number of people that the Ted Bundy killers, those kind of people, are extraordinarily rare in human society.
00:07:42.000 But to hear the left talk about it, those people are... Every evil person is a sociopath.
00:07:48.000 Every evil person is a Bond villain who has a shark pit filled with sharks that they can dump their enemies into, and they just chortle and glee whenever a child is hurt. 0.59
00:07:57.000 They're the kind of people who torture dogs for fun, right?
00:08:00.000 This is what you get from Hollywood, by the way.
00:08:02.000 Every villain in a Hollywood movie is one of these people.
00:08:04.000 We're good to go.
00:08:24.000 Because you weren't tortured and driven to sociopathy when you were young.
00:08:28.000 And you can hear this sort of language coming not just from Trevor Noah, but from the guy who's always destroying things, John Oliver.
00:08:34.000 John Oliver, if you ever read headlines about John Oliver online, the left worships at the altar of John Oliver.
00:08:39.000 He is the heir apparent to John Stewart in terms of leftist worship cliques, and he
00:08:45.000 And he's constantly destroying things.
00:08:47.000 He'll say something mean about Republicans, and then there'll be a headline, John Oliver destroys Republicans.
00:08:53.000 Actually, we're still here.
00:08:54.000 He didn't destroy us.
00:08:54.000 We're still here.
00:08:55.000 Well, the other day, he destroyed ISIS.
00:08:58.000 And here's John Oliver destroying ISIS.
00:09:00.000 And as you'll note, he doesn't have much to say about ISIS itself.
00:09:03.000 This is really telling audio and video, and you should subscribe so you can see John Oliver do this, but here's John Oliver from HBO talking about what happened in France.
00:09:14.000 After the many necessary and appropriate moments of silence, I'd like to offer you a moment of premium cable profanity.
00:09:21.000 So, here is where things stand. 0.99
00:09:23.000 First, as of now, we know this attack was carried out by gigantic f***ing a**holes. 0.98
00:09:30.000 Unconscionable, flaming a**holes. 1.00
00:09:32.000 Possibly, possibly working with other f***ing a**holes. 0.96
00:09:36.000 Definitely working in service of an ideology of pure a**holery. 1.00
00:09:41.000 Second, and this goes almost without saying, f*** these arseholes. 1.00
00:09:45.000 F*** them, if I may say, sideways. 1.00
00:09:50.000 And third, third, it is important to remember, nothing about what these arseholes are trying to do is going to work. 1.00
00:09:58.000 France is going to endure, and I'll tell you why. 0.98
00:10:01.000 If you're in a war of culture and lifestyle with France, good f***ing luck. 1.00
00:10:08.000 Because go ahead, go ahead, bring your bankrupt ideology. 0.88
00:10:12.000 They'll bring Jean-Paul Sartre, Edith Piaf, fine wine, Galois cigarettes, Camus, camembert, Madeleines, macarons, Marcel Proust, and the f***ing croquembouche! 0.78
00:10:25.000 The croquembouche!
00:10:27.000 Okay, let's pause it for a second here.
00:10:28.000 I mean, and he goes on like this for a while.
00:10:31.000 This is what the left actually believes.
00:10:33.000 This is what the left actually believes.
00:10:35.000 Right?
00:10:35.000 The people who did this, they have no ideology, nothing drives them, they're just effing a-holes.
00:10:40.000 Right?
00:10:40.000 As he puts it.
00:10:41.000 Right?
00:10:41.000 They're just, they're just, they're like the guy who scratches your car and then doesn't leave a note.
00:10:45.000 Basically.
00:10:45.000 They just do that writ large, right?
00:10:47.000 They just kill people for fun and they do it, but don't worry, don't worry, because they're unreasonable, because they're monsters, it should be easy to defeat them.
00:10:53.000 After all, defeating monsters is easy.
00:10:55.000 You know why?
00:10:55.000 Because monsters are imaginary.
00:10:57.000 They don't really exist.
00:10:58.000 But defeating monsters is easy.
00:11:00.000 In fact, you can defeat them just with a croquembouche.
00:11:03.000 There's no element here where he says, what we need is actual military force to use against these evil people who just slaughtered 129 French people.
00:11:11.000 No, what he says is, don't worry, the fact that France has SART means that they will win.
00:11:16.000 Okay, this is President Obama's language that he always uses about the arc of history and being on the wrong side of history versus being on the right side of history, as though superior cultures always win.
00:11:26.000 Superior cultures don't always win.
00:11:28.000 And superior cultures, by the way, don't even generate superior morality.
00:11:31.000 The fact is that the most superior culture in early 20th century global sphere was Germany, right? 0.62
00:11:37.000 I mean, the most developed culture on planet Earth was Germany, pre-staging the rise of the Nazis.
00:11:42.000 The idea that they have Camembert cheese
00:11:47.000 And that therefore they are going to beat ISIS is so nonsensical.
00:11:50.000 But the self-righteousness that you can see just reeking off of him, just rolling off of John Oliver in waves, because he's cursing at ISIS.
00:11:57.000 And now they're getting it.
00:11:57.000 Now they're getting it strong.
00:11:59.000 It's not the bombs or the shootings that'll do it. 1.00
00:12:01.000 It's not us marching troops into the middle of Raqqa to take these bastards out. 0.99
00:12:04.000 No, what's really gonna do it is that the French produce little sugar balls in a mound, and then they wrap solidified sugar crystals around it. 0.98
00:12:12.000 That's what's totally gonna make it happen, right?
00:12:15.000 This is what happens when you buy into an ideology that says that evil doesn't really exist, it's just something that's sort of out there.
00:12:21.000 Because anybody who's rational enough to enjoy Camus, they can't let these people win, are you kidding?
00:12:28.000 Just by the bankruptcy of their own evil, they'll fall apart.
00:12:31.000 And part of this, by the way, is also
00:12:33.000 This myth of evil, the way that people tend to think of evil, unfortunately.
00:12:37.000 They tend to think of evil as... If you think of every Bond movie, right?
00:12:41.000 Every James Bond movie, because they use sort of the archetype of pure evil in the Bond movies all the time.
00:12:46.000 Particularly lately, when you don't even know what the Bond villains are actually fighting, right?
00:12:49.000 You don't even know what their plan is.
00:12:51.000 I saw Clavin said this on his podcast the other day, and he's wrong about everything except this.
00:12:55.000 No, on this one, Clavin is exactly right.
00:12:57.000 The Bond villains lately have no plan.
00:12:59.000 They have no plot.
00:13:00.000 Right, you know they're evil because they sit in shadowy rooms with shadows on their faces and at the end of really long conference tables.
00:13:06.000 And you know that they're evil also because eventually there will be a scene, invariably, in which Bond is caught and he's tortured for fun.
00:13:13.000 They don't actually need anything from him.
00:13:14.000 They don't just shoot him in the head because that would end the series. 0.99
00:13:17.000 Instead, they take, as in Casino Royale, they take some sort of weight and hit him in the balls with it. 0.99
00:13:23.000 And this is what evil looks like.
00:13:26.000 And invariably in these scenes, somebody then explains the full plot of what they're about to do to Bond so he can thwart it. 0.99
00:13:31.000 Because evil people are arrogant, and evil people are stupid, and evil people are emotional, and eventually they just defeat themselves. 0.93
00:13:38.000 Bond is actually irrelevant to the proceedings because sooner or later these people would defeat themselves because evil defeats itself. 0.99
00:13:44.000 This is the comforting myth of pure evil.
00:13:47.000 I want to talk about, for a moment, what exactly does motivate human evil.
00:13:51.000 Because the myth of pure evil is really damaging because it means that we're supposed to pretend that Syrian Muslim refugees coming in from the Middle East, none of them are evil because we know they're not unreasonable like these people. 0.98
00:14:02.000 We know they're not effing a-holes, or at least we don't have proof they're effing a-holes, right? 1.00
00:14:07.000 They don't appear to be psychopaths.
00:14:09.000 They don't appear to be monsters.
00:14:10.000 They don't wear like funny shaped heads and odd teeth.
00:14:13.000 So obviously, if we bring them in, they shouldn't be any threat to us at all because they don't fit into the archetype of pure evil.
00:14:19.000 Therefore, we should bring all of them in.
00:14:21.000 Okay, what actually motivates human evil?
00:14:23.000 So, there's a really good book called Evil Inside Human Violence and Cruelty.
00:14:26.000 It's by a psychologist and his name is Roy Baumeister.
00:14:29.000 I believe he teaches it at Columbia.
00:14:31.000 And Baumeister is the author of several books on, or of human nature.
00:14:35.000 And he talks about what actually drives evil.
00:14:38.000 And he names a couple of different factors.
00:14:40.000 And you'll spot the fact that what he says drives evil action is possible for pretty much anybody.
00:14:46.000 It's possible for pretty much anybody.
00:14:47.000 And in fact, what drives evil action is actually being forwarded by the West right now.
00:14:52.000 What we're watching, not just in terms of what's happening in the Middle East, but domestically here in the United States and in Europe, the rise of evil is actually happening because the aspects of human personality that lead to evil are actually being exacerbated by the American and European left that insists that evil is just something out there, vague, doesn't exist.
00:15:13.000 Psychopathic.
00:15:14.000 So what actually drives evil?
00:15:15.000 So he gives a couple of different factors.
00:15:17.000 There are basically three that he says drives evil.
00:15:20.000 He says that, you know, greed and lust and ambition and all these things, they can drive evil, but typically people don't think of themselves as greedy or lustful or ambitious.
00:15:29.000 We're good to go.
00:15:45.000 It tends to be an exaggeration.
00:15:47.000 Most people, that's what makes him an amusing villain in the film, most people who are evil tend to think of themselves as emissaries of some higher philosophy.
00:15:55.000 The Nazis thought of themselves as emissaries of a higher philosophy, so did the communists. 0.61
00:16:00.000 In other words, powerful ideology drives people to do evil things because they believe that in pursuit of the fulfillment of that ideology,
00:16:08.000 It is perfectly worthwhile to use means that are nasty and evil.
00:16:12.000 Right? 1.00
00:16:12.000 If you gotta shoot all the Jews to get to Nazi utopia, you do it. 1.00
00:16:14.000 Right? 1.00
00:16:14.000 Because you're driven by ideology. 1.00
00:16:16.000 If you have to murder a bunch of Christians and atheists inside a theater in France in order to achieve Islamic utopia, you do it. 1.00
00:16:22.000 Ideology can blind people to their own evil. 0.99
00:16:25.000 Right?
00:16:25.000 This is point number one that leads to evil.
00:16:27.000 And the left refuses to see that.
00:16:29.000 Which of course enables evil because a lot of people are coming over who have a very different ideology.
00:16:33.000 Hillary Clinton today said it's just insane for anybody to discriminate on the basis of religion with regard to the people who come into the United States.
00:16:41.000 Forget religion for a second.
00:16:42.000 How about discriminating on the basis of philosophy?
00:16:44.000 How about discriminating on the basis of ideology?
00:16:46.000 You know, back in the 1950s, if we knew that there were 100,000 people who were gonna come in, who were coming straight from the Soviet Union, and they weren't just expatriates from the Soviet Union trying to escape, they were people who were full-fledged communists, we might think twice before allowing all those people into the United States. 0.71
00:17:01.000 They have a different philosophy of life.
00:17:04.000 Syrian Muslims have a different philosophy of life. 0.60
00:17:07.000 Polls show these are not people who are engaged with Western values.
00:17:10.000 These are not people who are ready to integrate.
00:17:11.000 Forget even the terrorist problems.
00:17:14.000 Ideology matters.
00:17:15.000 And when that ideology, as happens to be true with Islam and a vast bulk of Islam, not the majority maybe, maybe, maybe the majority, but at least a big minority, radical Islam tends to predominate inside Islam.
00:17:28.000 This idea that Islamic radicalism is just a few guys, every poll disproves this.
00:17:31.000 It is not true.
00:17:33.000 It is not true. 0.78
00:17:34.000 Look at polls of Syrian Muslims and you will see people who believe that people who convert away from Islam should be killed, for example.
00:17:41.000 This is not a philosophy that works well in a free and open country like the United States or in Western civilization.
00:17:47.000 So, that's factor number one that leads to evil and the left refuses to see it because that would actually force them to look at the philosophies of the people they're fighting.
00:17:55.000 Factor number two that leads to human evil, according to Baumeister, is unjustified self-esteem.
00:18:00.000 So the left has told us that bullies, people who are bad, people who do aggressive and terrible things, these are all people with low self-esteem, right?
00:18:07.000 The bully at school, the one who's beating up all the other kids, it was because of low self-esteem.
00:18:11.000 This is nonsense. 0.97
00:18:12.000 It's hogwash. 0.86
00:18:13.000 Studies tend to show the opposite.
00:18:15.000 People who bully others, people who mistreat others, are people who suffer from high self-esteem.
00:18:21.000 They suffer from high self-esteem, and then the self-esteem is unjustified.
00:18:25.000 Meaning that if you think you're hot stuff, and it turns out that you're hot stuff,
00:18:29.000 Typically, you're not going to end up beating people up. 0.75
00:18:31.000 If, however, you think that you're hot stuff, and it turns out that you're a loser, and everybody is constantly telling you how you're a loser, then that discrepancy between your picture of yourself and everybody else's picture of you, that gap tends to be filled with violence.
00:18:44.000 So, think, for example, 0.96
00:18:47.000 All right.
00:19:07.000 Then the person saying that can lead you to become very upset.
00:19:10.000 So here's what Baumeister writes, he says,
00:19:27.000 So what does President Obama do?
00:19:28.000 What do the left do in the United States and abroad?
00:19:31.000 They say we need to boost the self-esteem of Muslims.
00:19:34.000 Right?
00:19:34.000 NASA said this.
00:19:35.000 We need to teach Islam, all the people in the Islamic world, about the arithmetic history of Islam.
00:19:41.000 Demonstrating once and for all that Islam is a great world of religion. 1.00
00:19:44.000 And then it turns out when they meet with the reality that there are no iPhones in Islam.
00:19:48.000 That the culture of Islam did not create iPhones.
00:19:51.000 The culture of Islam did not create airplanes.
00:19:53.000 The culture of Islam didn't create cars.
00:19:55.000 The culture of Islam didn't create... It hasn't created anything for the last 500 years. 1.00
00:19:58.000 And there are more books published in a single year than have been published now by Western civilization that have been published in the entire history of Islam. 0.66
00:20:07.000 The fact that that is the case...
00:20:09.000 We're good to go.
00:20:31.000 I don't know.
00:20:50.000 So in other words, if we create a society where every comment about radical Islam is supposed to be taken as a comment about Islam generally, and we all have to be really sensitive about it, we're now ingraining in the Islamic world that anytime anyone says anything about radical Islam, they're now deserving of violence.
00:21:06.000 Anytime anyone draws a picture of Muhammad, because we're so sensitive about it, it's an insult to them, and thus they're gonna go on a rampage and riot and kill people. 0.85
00:21:14.000 Right?
00:21:15.000 The West is making this worse by not recognizing what evil is.
00:21:19.000 Which is very convenient for them, and it's always convenient for them.
00:21:22.000 So how do they justify all this?
00:21:23.000 Well, Chris Matthews on MSNBC, he's on Hardball, and he says it's a mistake, a huge mistake, to call terrorists Islamic because it's just giving them what they want.
00:21:34.000 Why does Rubio want to have this as a clash of civilizations?
00:21:38.000 I thought that was what ISIS wanted, what Al-Qaeda wants, to have the Islamic world fight with the Western world. 0.93
00:21:44.000 Why would he want what they want?
00:21:46.000 To see the world in a religious struggle.
00:21:50.000 Why say Islamic? 0.99
00:21:52.000 Why don't we say terrorists?
00:21:54.000 Why does he want Obama and Hillary Clinton to swallow those words?
00:21:58.000 What is that about, Howard?
00:22:00.000 Well, I think it's about... Okay, so you can cut it off there because it's not really important.
00:22:03.000 But what he's saying, Matthews, is something you've heard from the left a lot, which is what ISIS wants is a clash of civilizations.
00:22:10.000 Well, ISIS has got it. 0.99
00:22:11.000 I don't understand this leftist notion that what ISIS desperately wants is for us to bomb the living crap out of them. 1.00
00:22:17.000 They're dying for it. 1.00
00:22:18.000 What they really want is for us to invade full-scale and kill all of them. 1.00
00:22:21.000 That's their desperate wish. 1.00
00:22:22.000 What they really want is for us to nuke them. 0.51
00:22:25.000 What are we talking about here?
00:22:26.000 Second of all, I don't make my decisions on a daily basis based on what ISIS wants.
00:22:31.000 I've heard this argument with regard to Syrian refugees today.
00:22:34.000 People saying, what ISIS really wants is for the West to reject Syrian refugees because that way it looks like the West is anti-Muslim.
00:22:41.000 I don't care what ISIS wants. 0.99
00:22:42.000 Why should you care what ISIS wants? 0.56
00:22:44.000 I care what's good for Western civilization.
00:22:46.000 It is not good for Western civilization to take in millions of Muslims who have had no education in Western civilization at all. 1.00
00:22:54.000 And it's been bad for Western civilization for years, as we're now seeing in Europe. 0.71
00:22:58.000 Where you basically have two societies that have been created, the secular European society and the Islamic society, all in Europe at the same time. 0.64
00:23:05.000 But this sort of stuff is what the left has been pushing.
00:23:07.000 Because they believe that evil is something out there, because they believe it's just psychopaths, they've been saying today that it's just terrible that anybody would want to put restrictions on Muslims coming into the West.
00:23:18.000 They say that the gravest fear that they have is Islamophobia.
00:23:21.000 It's Islamophobia that we should all be worried about. 0.98
00:23:24.000 They wrote this in the Washington Post today. 0.99
00:23:26.000 It was written in the New York Magazine today by Jonathan Chait, who wrote an incredibly stupid piece called The Return of Islamophobia. 1.00
00:23:33.000 Just idiotic, the idea that it's not Islamophobic to recognize the actual threat from people who abide by doctrines that are not compatible with the West. 1.00
00:23:42.000 That is not Islamophobia. 1.00
00:23:43.000 Okay, there are lots of doctrines that don't comply with the doctrines of the West.
00:23:47.000 It's not specific to Islam.
00:23:48.000 It's true for a lot of doctrines. 1.00
00:23:50.000 And failing to recognize that is incredibly dumb. 0.96
00:23:52.000 But because the left doesn't believe ideology drives evil, 0.98
00:23:55.000 The left believes that evil is just something that's randomly out there.
00:23:57.000 It's just sort of generated randomly, and if it is generated by anything, it's generated by the West, then they overlook all of this, and so you get tweets like this from Hillary Clinton.
00:24:06.000 We've seen a lot of hateful rhetoric from the GOP, but the idea that we turn away refugees because of religion is a new low.
00:24:12.000 And we're not turning refugees away because of religion.
00:24:15.000 Because the fact is, and by the way, the idea that Hillary is against discrimination on the basis of religion is laughable. 0.92
00:24:20.000 Hillary Clinton is the one who said that Christians in the United States would have to change their religion so that they could cater gay weddings. 0.94
00:24:27.000 Hillary Clinton said that. 1.00
00:24:28.000 So this idea that she's in favor of religious freedom, and that's really what this is all about, is idiotic. 0.99
00:24:34.000 I do have to mention in passing here, the reason why the left, everybody wonders, why is the left so in love with Islam, but they hate Christianity so much? 0.99
00:24:41.000 The answer is because Islam didn't create the West, and the left hates the West, and so anything that created the West, namely Judaism and Christianity, is outcast.
00:24:48.000 Islam is just an ideological 1.00
00:24:51.000 Representation of third-worldism. 0.82
00:24:53.000 It's an ideological representation of poverty, which is why it's grown so much.
00:24:57.000 Ted Cruz got this basically right.
00:24:59.000 He said that, you know, President Obama, the reason he's shying away from talk about Islam and American leadership against ISIS is because President Obama basically doesn't like America, and he doesn't like the West.
00:25:09.000 Here's Ted Cruz, the senator from Texas.
00:25:11.000 I understand the radical that is President Obama.
00:25:14.000 You know, Barack Obama was four years ahead of me at Harvard Law School.
00:25:19.000 And I have described President Obama as the perfect Harvard Law School president.
00:25:25.000 And I don't mean that as a compliment.
00:25:27.000 My wife jokes that eventually they're going to revoke my law degree. 1.00
00:25:31.000 But the reason is as follows.
00:25:34.000 Every view of the Obama administration is orthodox wisdom in the Harvard Law School faculty lounge.
00:25:41.000 And the view of the elite academy, and Hugh, you know the elite academy very, very well.
00:25:46.000 The view of the elite academy
00:25:48.000 is that America's leadership in the world is fundamentally illegitimate, that it is the product of oppression and hegemony.
00:25:55.000 It is a remnant of an evil imperialism.
00:26:00.000 That is what manifested in Obama saying, we should lead from behind.
00:26:04.000 He believes the world is better off when America recedes from the world and doesn't lead because our leadership is illegitimate.
00:26:13.000 And if you look at what President Obama has done for seven years, along with Hillary Clinton,
00:26:18.000 It has been to abandon our friends and allies, whether the UK, whether Canada, whether Israel.
00:26:23.000 And he goes on like this, and this is exactly right.
00:26:26.000 This is true.
00:26:26.000 So evil exists in the form of Republican ideology and also in the form of psychopathy, and they're both the same.
00:26:32.000 If you just wrap them up in a ball, psychopaths are Republicans, Republicans are psychopaths. 0.79
00:26:36.000 This is why Hillary Clinton has said that her enemies are the Republicans, right? 0.98
00:26:41.000 It all is part of a piece.
00:26:42.000 Okay, so I mentioned that I would have to talk briefly about Charlie Sheen here, and I would be remiss if I did not.
00:26:47.000 Charlie Sheen was on the Today Show, and he announced that he was HIV positive.
00:26:51.000 The reason he said he was HIV positive publicly is because he was being blackmailed to the tune of millions of dollars.
00:26:56.000 I want to play a little bit of this interview.
00:26:58.000 Pay less attention to Charlie Sheen.
00:26:59.000 Pay more attention to Matt Lauer, because this is kind of telling.
00:27:03.000 I'm here to admit that I am, in fact, HIV positive.
00:27:07.000 And I have to put a stop to this onslaught, this barrage of...
00:27:16.000 Of attacks and of subtruths and very harmful and mercurial stories that are about threatening the health of so many others, which couldn't be farther from the truth.
00:27:33.000 I want to talk about those in a second.
00:27:35.000 How many people have you told about this?
00:27:39.000 I've told enough that I trusted to be
00:27:43.000 How long have you known about this?
00:27:45.000 When were you diagnosed?
00:28:00.000 Series of cluster headaches and insane migraines and sweating the bed, completely drenched two, three nights in a row that I was emergency hospitalized.
00:28:11.000 I thought I had a brain tumor.
00:28:11.000 I thought it was over.
00:28:14.000 After a battery of tests and spinal taps, all that crap, they walked in the room and said, boom, here's what's going on. 0.83
00:28:22.000 It's a hard 0.71
00:28:25.000 Um, three letters to absorb, you know?
00:28:29.000 It's a turning point in one's life.
00:28:34.000 Okay, and Matt Lauer goes on like this.
00:28:35.000 The interview's about eight minutes long, and it just continues on like this.
00:28:39.000 The reason I want to point to Matt Lauer here is very simple.
00:28:42.000 What we do in the media, and it is pretty sick, is everybody becomes a victim.
00:28:46.000 Everybody becomes a victim.
00:28:48.000 Okay, Charlie Sheen here is portrayed as somebody who's a victim, right?
00:28:51.000 How many people did you tell, and who did you think that you could trust?
00:28:54.000 And how hard was it when you found out that you had HIV?
00:28:57.000 Now, this is an aspect of political correctness that really does kill people.
00:29:01.000 It actually kills people, and it killed, it's killed
00:29:03.000 Thousands of people in the United States over the last 40 years.
00:29:06.000 And that is since the outbreak of the AIDS epidemic, the media have been trying to convince people that it's just sort of randomly hitting folks.
00:29:13.000 That it's not behaviorally connected in any way, because leftism is all about severing the connection between behavior and consequence.
00:29:19.000 So if we were to recognize that certain behaviors are more likely to lead to you obtaining AIDS than other behaviors, that would be re-establishing a connection the left wishes to sever.
00:29:28.000 How is it that... I mean, I've looked at the media coverage today.
00:29:31.000 And there was a very funny headline that I saw earlier today where it said the world will reluctantly accept Charlie Sheen as victim hero of AIDS.
00:29:39.000 And this is pretty much right.
00:29:40.000 The media coverage has been essentially laudatory of Charlie Sheen.
00:29:45.000 We feel bad for him.
00:29:46.000 It's so terrible what happened to him.
00:29:48.000 That's all fine.
00:29:48.000 You can feel bad for Charlie Sheen.
00:29:50.000 Wouldn't this be what they like to call on the left a teachable moment?
00:29:53.000 As in Charlie Sheen.
00:29:54.000 There are a couple things we know about Charlie Sheen, right? 0.97
00:29:56.000 We know that Charlie Sheen was not averse to doing drugs, and we know that Charlie Sheen basically put his genitals in any possible hole that would take them, right? 0.91
00:30:03.000 These are the things that we know about Charlie Sheen.
00:30:05.000 And we also know that both of these activities are highly linked to HIV and AIDS, right?
00:30:09.000 We know that promiscuous sex and drug use, intravenous drug use, these
00:30:14.000 Transmit AIDS.
00:30:15.000 And I promise you, Charlie Sheen did not get AIDS from a blood transfusion.
00:30:18.000 There's the occasional person who gets AIDS from a blood transfusion.
00:30:21.000 The risk of that is incredibly low.
00:30:23.000 For 30 years we've been doing this routine.
00:30:24.000 Since the beginning of the 80s.
00:30:25.000 They said that AIDS could affect anyone.
00:30:27.000 It wasn't just a gay disease. 0.99
00:30:28.000 It wasn't just something that happened to homosexuals. 0.98
00:30:30.000 It's something that could affect anyone at any time.
00:30:33.000 I personally know I don't have AIDS.
00:30:35.000 You know how I know I don't have AIDS?
00:30:36.000 And I will never have AIDS except through blood transfusion?
00:30:38.000 Because I've only had sex with one person in my entire life, and that is my wife. 0.99
00:30:42.000 She's only had sex with one person, and that is me, and I've never used intravenous drugs.
00:30:45.000 Ever.
00:30:47.000 So, that's a pretty good way of avoiding AIDS.
00:30:49.000 This would be a good teachable moment to teach teenagers, right, that Charlie Sheen's behavior is the sort of thing that leads to rises in disease.
00:30:56.000 And we now have STDs.
00:30:57.000 Drudge is headlining today that STDs are now at record highs in the United States.
00:31:01.000 Why?
00:31:01.000 Because we have a campaign in the United States to minimize the effects of these diseases, which is good,
00:31:06.000 But then we also have a campaign to minimize the behavior that leads to the disease, meaning we're not gonna even acknowledge that certain behavior is more closely linked to disease, in the same way that we refuse to acknowledge that transgenderism is a mental illness, which leads to more dead transgender people, people suffering from gender dysphoria, in the same way that we refuse to acknowledge that there are health risks that attend to certain aspects of American life, 0.78
00:31:30.000 Because things that the left likes, namely promiscuous sex and drug use, I mean, these are things the left is not averse to, these things must be protected at all costs, even the cost of human life.
00:31:38.000 So, as the media continues to make a martyr out of Charlie Sheen, who is, by all available accounts, and by the way, this guy probably had sex with a lot of people without telling them he had HIV.
00:31:49.000 I mean this is why there's lawsuits on the way for Charlie Sheen, major lawsuits, maybe criminal prosecution on the way for Charlie Sheen if he transmitted HIV AIDS to somebody without them being informed beforehand they were having sex with somebody who had HIV AIDS.
00:32:03.000 The fact that Charlie Sheen is now being turned into a sort of health martyr in the same way that Magic Johnson was turned into a health martyr with regard to AIDS.
00:32:12.000 And by the way, Magic Johnson was turned into a health martyr with regard to AIDS originally because Magic Johnson was straight, and so the poster boy for AIDS had to be a straight guy.
00:32:19.000 It couldn't be a gay guy who was sleeping around in bathhouses, which was significantly more common in terms of people who acquired AIDS back in the 1980s and 1990s.
00:32:27.000 The left has to redefine fact away from fact in order to achieve desired ends.
00:32:33.000 And that is true whether we're talking the evils of radical Islam or whether we're talking about the spread of AIDS. 1.00
00:32:40.000 It is a serious issue and I wish the media took it more seriously because
00:32:46.000 As I'm fond of saying, facts don't care about your feelings.
00:32:47.000 And no matter how we treat Charlie Sheen in the aftermath of this, nothing will de-link the acquisition of STDs from promiscuous sex.
00:32:55.000 End of story.
00:32:55.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:32:56.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.