On this episode of The Ben Shapiro Show, Ben talks about John Kerry's attempt to paint a picture of Islamic terrorism as an attack on Western civilization, and how it is actually an assault on our collective sense of reason and purpose. He also discusses the perverse nature of Charlie Sheen, and the idea that evil is something that can only be described as out there . in the "closet . and how evil is not something that is out there, it's something that lives in the closet. Ben Shapiro is the host of the conservative podcast "The Weekly Standard" and is a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, CBS, and other media outlets. He is a frequent contributor to The Daily Wire, and has a regular column in the Wall Street Journal, and is one of the most influential people in the world on the internet. He is also a frequent guest on Fox News and CNN, and hosts the conservative radio show "The Situation Room" with John Avlon. and hosts his own show on SiriusXM Radio's "The Avlon Report." on the Fox News Channel, where he's a regular guest host and host of "The View From The Ground" on the Morning Show with Alex Blumberg. Ben also hosts a podcast called "Ben Shapiro's After Hours" with his regular radio show on KWVS-FM in New York City, which he hosts a show called "The Ben Shapiro's Morning Show." and is the author of the book "The Conspiracies" and hosts a new podcast, "The Right Turn" with the late-night radio show, "Soloist Ben Shapiro." Ben is joined by his wife, Rachel Maddow, and his daughter, Rachel, who is a guest on the podcast "Rachel Maddow. . Ben and Rachel discuss the Paris attacks, and Charlie Sheen's new book, "Charlie Sheen's Perverse" and much, much more! Subscribe to Ben's new show on the latest episode of the Ben Shapiro Podcast. Learn more about Charlie Sheen and his life and much more, including his new book "Punishing Charlie Sheen: The Devil Next Door" on his new novel "The Perverse Nature." Click here to learn more about him on the Charlie Sheen is a Man Next Door: How Charlie Sheen Is Killing Us All: How He's Killing Me, Not Me, We're Killing Us, Not Really, Is He Killing Me?
00:00:00.000Welcome, welcome to Tuesday's episode.
00:00:02.000We have a lot to talk about, as always, here on The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:05.000We're going to talk about the nature of evil, we're going to talk about the nature of Islam, and we are going to talk about the perverse nature of Charlie Sheen.
00:01:15.000And today's emissary of this stupid thought is John Kerry, the emissary of most stupid thoughts, the Secretary of State, the lurch-looking former Winter Soldier testifier.
00:01:26.000He was over in Paris and he talked about what he thought drove the Paris attacks that happened last Friday.
00:01:41.000They rape and torture and pillage and call it the will of God.
00:01:46.000They are, in fact, psychopathic monsters.
00:01:50.000And there is nothing, nothing civilized about them.
00:01:55.000So this is not a case of one civilization pitted against another.
00:01:59.000This is a battle between civilization itself and barbarism.
00:02:04.000between civilization and medieval and modern fascism, both at the same time.
00:02:11.000And that is why every single nation-state in the region and around the world is opposed to Daesh.
00:02:20.000And so the violence, the terror, the senseless murder of 132 people, and injuring of hundreds more, including four Americans, this is an assault not just on France,
00:02:34.000But coming on the heels of brutal attacks in Lebanon, Iraq, and elsewhere, it is an assault on our collective sense of reason and purpose.
00:03:09.000He says this isn't a battle between civilizations, and then he immediately goes on to say it's a battle between medieval fascism and our civilization, which is a description of a civilization.
00:03:53.000On any particular subset of humanity, it was all of humanity.
00:03:56.000It's as though there are these monsters who live in the closet.
00:03:59.000There are these monsters who live in the closet, and if you open up that closet, then the monsters pop out.
00:04:04.000It's the same reason that people on the left get very upset if you ever compare anything to Hitler, because Hitler was out of the realm of humankind.
00:04:11.000The Nazis were out of the realm of humankind, so we can never use comparisons or analogies.
00:04:16.000Because to do so would actually suggest that Hitler was a human being and that his followers were human beings who were capable of evil.
00:04:22.000And that most human beings, in fact, are capable of evil given the right circumstances.
00:04:27.000Virtually all human beings, given the right circumstances, are capable of evil.
00:04:31.000And that's why we actually have to have clashes of civilizations and battles of ideologies and philosophies.
00:04:36.000Because certain philosophies drive more evil than other philosophies.
00:04:40.000But according to John Kerry, evil is very easy to take care of.
00:04:43.000All you have to do is spot the psychopathic monsters, and all you have to do is take out the people who are privy to this assault on reason.
00:04:50.000And you see this repeated throughout the left-wing press.
00:04:53.000Trevor Noah, who is the most unfunny person ever to be on Comedy Central.
00:04:56.000I mean, he should not be on a channel that has comedy in its name.
00:04:59.000He's the replacement for Jon Stewart, and he's Jon Stewart without the funny faces or even an iota of the talent.
00:05:05.000Here's Trevor Noah last night talking about France and using exactly the same language as President Obama and John Kerry.
00:05:11.000It's not an attack on the West by people who oppose the West.
00:05:14.000No, it's an attack on humanity itself.
00:05:27.000What we should try to choose to do is not focus on the perpetrators, because every attack, whether it's Paris, Beirut, Kenya, seems less about a specific group and more about an attack on humanity itself.
00:05:39.000What in the world is he talking about?
00:05:42.000What in the world is he talking about?
00:05:43.000Every attack is an attack on humanity itself.
00:05:55.000The only thing they have in common is that they killed humans.
00:05:57.000If this is what pops to mind, you maybe have an IQ low enough to be a member of Trevor Noah's audience because this is really, really stupid stuff.
00:06:05.000And what's amazing is how self-righteous the left is about this kind of stuff.
00:06:08.000They refuse to label the ideology that drives terrorism what it is.
00:06:12.000They refuse to say radical Islam, which we'll get to in a moment.
00:06:15.000They refuse in any way to label this a clash of civilizations, because that would be giving ISIS what it wants.
00:06:21.000We'll get to that argument in a moment.
00:06:23.000But what they will do is they'll self-righteously proclaim that they're against the enemies of humanity, as though this grants them any sort of special status, as though they're real heroes for being against the enemies of humanity.
00:06:33.000As though this is a sequel to The Avengers and there are a bunch of aliens coming from outer space and all we have to do is just fight those aliens and everything will be all better.
00:06:41.000They're not human beings the people we're fighting.
00:06:44.000What's amazing about folks on the left is you hear them use this language all the time with regard to gays and blacks and Jews and Hispanics and every other subgroup.
00:07:18.000All we have to do is put them in this little box labeled monsters and then that grants us the ability to go about our daily business without having to worry about what actually generates monsters like this.
00:07:35.000The number of people that the Ted Bundy killers, those kind of people, are extraordinarily rare in human society.
00:07:42.000But to hear the left talk about it, those people are... Every evil person is a sociopath.
00:07:48.000Every evil person is a Bond villain who has a shark pit filled with sharks that they can dump their enemies into, and they just chortle and glee whenever a child is hurt.
00:07:57.000They're the kind of people who torture dogs for fun, right?
00:08:00.000This is what you get from Hollywood, by the way.
00:08:02.000Every villain in a Hollywood movie is one of these people.
00:08:55.000Well, the other day, he destroyed ISIS.
00:08:58.000And here's John Oliver destroying ISIS.
00:09:00.000And as you'll note, he doesn't have much to say about ISIS itself.
00:09:03.000This is really telling audio and video, and you should subscribe so you can see John Oliver do this, but here's John Oliver from HBO talking about what happened in France.
00:09:14.000After the many necessary and appropriate moments of silence, I'd like to offer you a moment of premium cable profanity.
00:10:47.000They just kill people for fun and they do it, but don't worry, don't worry, because they're unreasonable, because they're monsters, it should be easy to defeat them.
00:10:53.000After all, defeating monsters is easy.
00:11:00.000In fact, you can defeat them just with a croquembouche.
00:11:03.000There's no element here where he says, what we need is actual military force to use against these evil people who just slaughtered 129 French people.
00:11:11.000No, what he says is, don't worry, the fact that France has SART means that they will win.
00:11:16.000Okay, this is President Obama's language that he always uses about the arc of history and being on the wrong side of history versus being on the right side of history, as though superior cultures always win.
00:11:28.000And superior cultures, by the way, don't even generate superior morality.
00:11:31.000The fact is that the most superior culture in early 20th century global sphere was Germany, right?
00:11:37.000I mean, the most developed culture on planet Earth was Germany, pre-staging the rise of the Nazis.
00:11:42.000The idea that they have Camembert cheese
00:11:47.000And that therefore they are going to beat ISIS is so nonsensical.
00:11:50.000But the self-righteousness that you can see just reeking off of him, just rolling off of John Oliver in waves, because he's cursing at ISIS.
00:11:59.000It's not the bombs or the shootings that'll do it.
00:12:01.000It's not us marching troops into the middle of Raqqa to take these bastards out.
00:12:04.000No, what's really gonna do it is that the French produce little sugar balls in a mound, and then they wrap solidified sugar crystals around it.
00:12:12.000That's what's totally gonna make it happen, right?
00:12:15.000This is what happens when you buy into an ideology that says that evil doesn't really exist, it's just something that's sort of out there.
00:12:21.000Because anybody who's rational enough to enjoy Camus, they can't let these people win, are you kidding?
00:12:28.000Just by the bankruptcy of their own evil, they'll fall apart.
00:13:00.000Right, you know they're evil because they sit in shadowy rooms with shadows on their faces and at the end of really long conference tables.
00:13:06.000And you know that they're evil also because eventually there will be a scene, invariably, in which Bond is caught and he's tortured for fun.
00:13:13.000They don't actually need anything from him.
00:13:14.000They don't just shoot him in the head because that would end the series.
00:13:17.000Instead, they take, as in Casino Royale, they take some sort of weight and hit him in the balls with it.
00:13:26.000And invariably in these scenes, somebody then explains the full plot of what they're about to do to Bond so he can thwart it.
00:13:31.000Because evil people are arrogant, and evil people are stupid, and evil people are emotional, and eventually they just defeat themselves.
00:13:38.000Bond is actually irrelevant to the proceedings because sooner or later these people would defeat themselves because evil defeats itself.
00:13:44.000This is the comforting myth of pure evil.
00:13:47.000I want to talk about, for a moment, what exactly does motivate human evil.
00:13:51.000Because the myth of pure evil is really damaging because it means that we're supposed to pretend that Syrian Muslim refugees coming in from the Middle East, none of them are evil because we know they're not unreasonable like these people.
00:14:02.000We know they're not effing a-holes, or at least we don't have proof they're effing a-holes, right?
00:14:31.000And Baumeister is the author of several books on, or of human nature.
00:14:35.000And he talks about what actually drives evil.
00:14:38.000And he names a couple of different factors.
00:14:40.000And you'll spot the fact that what he says drives evil action is possible for pretty much anybody.
00:14:46.000It's possible for pretty much anybody.
00:14:47.000And in fact, what drives evil action is actually being forwarded by the West right now.
00:14:52.000What we're watching, not just in terms of what's happening in the Middle East, but domestically here in the United States and in Europe, the rise of evil is actually happening because the aspects of human personality that lead to evil are actually being exacerbated by the American and European left that insists that evil is just something out there, vague, doesn't exist.
00:15:15.000So he gives a couple of different factors.
00:15:17.000There are basically three that he says drives evil.
00:15:20.000He says that, you know, greed and lust and ambition and all these things, they can drive evil, but typically people don't think of themselves as greedy or lustful or ambitious.
00:15:47.000Most people, that's what makes him an amusing villain in the film, most people who are evil tend to think of themselves as emissaries of some higher philosophy.
00:15:55.000The Nazis thought of themselves as emissaries of a higher philosophy, so did the communists.
00:16:00.000In other words, powerful ideology drives people to do evil things because they believe that in pursuit of the fulfillment of that ideology,
00:16:08.000It is perfectly worthwhile to use means that are nasty and evil.
00:16:29.000Which of course enables evil because a lot of people are coming over who have a very different ideology.
00:16:33.000Hillary Clinton today said it's just insane for anybody to discriminate on the basis of religion with regard to the people who come into the United States.
00:16:42.000How about discriminating on the basis of philosophy?
00:16:44.000How about discriminating on the basis of ideology?
00:16:46.000You know, back in the 1950s, if we knew that there were 100,000 people who were gonna come in, who were coming straight from the Soviet Union, and they weren't just expatriates from the Soviet Union trying to escape, they were people who were full-fledged communists, we might think twice before allowing all those people into the United States.
00:17:01.000They have a different philosophy of life.
00:17:04.000Syrian Muslims have a different philosophy of life.
00:17:07.000Polls show these are not people who are engaged with Western values.
00:17:10.000These are not people who are ready to integrate.
00:17:15.000And when that ideology, as happens to be true with Islam and a vast bulk of Islam, not the majority maybe, maybe, maybe the majority, but at least a big minority, radical Islam tends to predominate inside Islam.
00:17:28.000This idea that Islamic radicalism is just a few guys, every poll disproves this.
00:17:34.000Look at polls of Syrian Muslims and you will see people who believe that people who convert away from Islam should be killed, for example.
00:17:41.000This is not a philosophy that works well in a free and open country like the United States or in Western civilization.
00:17:47.000So, that's factor number one that leads to evil and the left refuses to see it because that would actually force them to look at the philosophies of the people they're fighting.
00:17:55.000Factor number two that leads to human evil, according to Baumeister, is unjustified self-esteem.
00:18:00.000So the left has told us that bullies, people who are bad, people who do aggressive and terrible things, these are all people with low self-esteem, right?
00:18:07.000The bully at school, the one who's beating up all the other kids, it was because of low self-esteem.
00:18:15.000People who bully others, people who mistreat others, are people who suffer from high self-esteem.
00:18:21.000They suffer from high self-esteem, and then the self-esteem is unjustified.
00:18:25.000Meaning that if you think you're hot stuff, and it turns out that you're hot stuff,
00:18:29.000Typically, you're not going to end up beating people up.
00:18:31.000If, however, you think that you're hot stuff, and it turns out that you're a loser, and everybody is constantly telling you how you're a loser, then that discrepancy between your picture of yourself and everybody else's picture of you, that gap tends to be filled with violence.
00:19:35.000We need to teach Islam, all the people in the Islamic world, about the arithmetic history of Islam.
00:19:41.000Demonstrating once and for all that Islam is a great world of religion.
00:19:44.000And then it turns out when they meet with the reality that there are no iPhones in Islam.
00:19:48.000That the culture of Islam did not create iPhones.
00:19:51.000The culture of Islam did not create airplanes.
00:19:53.000The culture of Islam didn't create cars.
00:19:55.000The culture of Islam didn't create... It hasn't created anything for the last 500 years.
00:19:58.000And there are more books published in a single year than have been published now by Western civilization that have been published in the entire history of Islam.
00:20:50.000So in other words, if we create a society where every comment about radical Islam is supposed to be taken as a comment about Islam generally, and we all have to be really sensitive about it, we're now ingraining in the Islamic world that anytime anyone says anything about radical Islam, they're now deserving of violence.
00:21:06.000Anytime anyone draws a picture of Muhammad, because we're so sensitive about it, it's an insult to them, and thus they're gonna go on a rampage and riot and kill people.
00:21:23.000Well, Chris Matthews on MSNBC, he's on Hardball, and he says it's a mistake, a huge mistake, to call terrorists Islamic because it's just giving them what they want.
00:21:34.000Why does Rubio want to have this as a clash of civilizations?
00:21:38.000I thought that was what ISIS wanted, what Al-Qaeda wants, to have the Islamic world fight with the Western world.
00:22:44.000I care what's good for Western civilization.
00:22:46.000It is not good for Western civilization to take in millions of Muslims who have had no education in Western civilization at all.
00:22:54.000And it's been bad for Western civilization for years, as we're now seeing in Europe.
00:22:58.000Where you basically have two societies that have been created, the secular European society and the Islamic society, all in Europe at the same time.
00:23:05.000But this sort of stuff is what the left has been pushing.
00:23:07.000Because they believe that evil is something out there, because they believe it's just psychopaths, they've been saying today that it's just terrible that anybody would want to put restrictions on Muslims coming into the West.
00:23:18.000They say that the gravest fear that they have is Islamophobia.
00:23:21.000It's Islamophobia that we should all be worried about.
00:23:24.000They wrote this in the Washington Post today.
00:23:26.000It was written in the New York Magazine today by Jonathan Chait, who wrote an incredibly stupid piece called The Return of Islamophobia.
00:23:33.000Just idiotic, the idea that it's not Islamophobic to recognize the actual threat from people who abide by doctrines that are not compatible with the West.
00:23:50.000And failing to recognize that is incredibly dumb.
00:23:52.000But because the left doesn't believe ideology drives evil,
00:23:55.000The left believes that evil is just something that's randomly out there.
00:23:57.000It's just sort of generated randomly, and if it is generated by anything, it's generated by the West, then they overlook all of this, and so you get tweets like this from Hillary Clinton.
00:24:06.000We've seen a lot of hateful rhetoric from the GOP, but the idea that we turn away refugees because of religion is a new low.
00:24:12.000And we're not turning refugees away because of religion.
00:24:15.000Because the fact is, and by the way, the idea that Hillary is against discrimination on the basis of religion is laughable.
00:24:20.000Hillary Clinton is the one who said that Christians in the United States would have to change their religion so that they could cater gay weddings.
00:24:28.000So this idea that she's in favor of religious freedom, and that's really what this is all about, is idiotic.
00:24:34.000I do have to mention in passing here, the reason why the left, everybody wonders, why is the left so in love with Islam, but they hate Christianity so much?
00:24:41.000The answer is because Islam didn't create the West, and the left hates the West, and so anything that created the West, namely Judaism and Christianity, is outcast.
00:24:59.000He said that, you know, President Obama, the reason he's shying away from talk about Islam and American leadership against ISIS is because President Obama basically doesn't like America, and he doesn't like the West.
00:25:09.000Here's Ted Cruz, the senator from Texas.
00:25:11.000I understand the radical that is President Obama.
00:25:14.000You know, Barack Obama was four years ahead of me at Harvard Law School.
00:25:19.000And I have described President Obama as the perfect Harvard Law School president.
00:25:25.000And I don't mean that as a compliment.
00:25:27.000My wife jokes that eventually they're going to revoke my law degree.
00:26:59.000Pay more attention to Matt Lauer, because this is kind of telling.
00:27:03.000I'm here to admit that I am, in fact, HIV positive.
00:27:07.000And I have to put a stop to this onslaught, this barrage of...
00:27:16.000Of attacks and of subtruths and very harmful and mercurial stories that are about threatening the health of so many others, which couldn't be farther from the truth.
00:27:33.000I want to talk about those in a second.
00:27:35.000How many people have you told about this?
00:28:00.000Series of cluster headaches and insane migraines and sweating the bed, completely drenched two, three nights in a row that I was emergency hospitalized.
00:28:48.000Okay, Charlie Sheen here is portrayed as somebody who's a victim, right?
00:28:51.000How many people did you tell, and who did you think that you could trust?
00:28:54.000And how hard was it when you found out that you had HIV?
00:28:57.000Now, this is an aspect of political correctness that really does kill people.
00:29:01.000It actually kills people, and it killed, it's killed
00:29:03.000Thousands of people in the United States over the last 40 years.
00:29:06.000And that is since the outbreak of the AIDS epidemic, the media have been trying to convince people that it's just sort of randomly hitting folks.
00:29:13.000That it's not behaviorally connected in any way, because leftism is all about severing the connection between behavior and consequence.
00:29:19.000So if we were to recognize that certain behaviors are more likely to lead to you obtaining AIDS than other behaviors, that would be re-establishing a connection the left wishes to sever.
00:29:28.000How is it that... I mean, I've looked at the media coverage today.
00:29:31.000And there was a very funny headline that I saw earlier today where it said the world will reluctantly accept Charlie Sheen as victim hero of AIDS.
00:29:54.000There are a couple things we know about Charlie Sheen, right?
00:29:56.000We know that Charlie Sheen was not averse to doing drugs, and we know that Charlie Sheen basically put his genitals in any possible hole that would take them, right?
00:30:03.000These are the things that we know about Charlie Sheen.
00:30:05.000And we also know that both of these activities are highly linked to HIV and AIDS, right?
00:30:09.000We know that promiscuous sex and drug use, intravenous drug use, these
00:30:47.000So, that's a pretty good way of avoiding AIDS.
00:30:49.000This would be a good teachable moment to teach teenagers, right, that Charlie Sheen's behavior is the sort of thing that leads to rises in disease.
00:31:01.000Because we have a campaign in the United States to minimize the effects of these diseases, which is good,
00:31:06.000But then we also have a campaign to minimize the behavior that leads to the disease, meaning we're not gonna even acknowledge that certain behavior is more closely linked to disease, in the same way that we refuse to acknowledge that transgenderism is a mental illness, which leads to more dead transgender people, people suffering from gender dysphoria, in the same way that we refuse to acknowledge that there are health risks that attend to certain aspects of American life,
00:31:30.000Because things that the left likes, namely promiscuous sex and drug use, I mean, these are things the left is not averse to, these things must be protected at all costs, even the cost of human life.
00:31:38.000So, as the media continues to make a martyr out of Charlie Sheen, who is, by all available accounts, and by the way, this guy probably had sex with a lot of people without telling them he had HIV.
00:31:49.000I mean this is why there's lawsuits on the way for Charlie Sheen, major lawsuits, maybe criminal prosecution on the way for Charlie Sheen if he transmitted HIV AIDS to somebody without them being informed beforehand they were having sex with somebody who had HIV AIDS.
00:32:03.000The fact that Charlie Sheen is now being turned into a sort of health martyr in the same way that Magic Johnson was turned into a health martyr with regard to AIDS.
00:32:12.000And by the way, Magic Johnson was turned into a health martyr with regard to AIDS originally because Magic Johnson was straight, and so the poster boy for AIDS had to be a straight guy.
00:32:19.000It couldn't be a gay guy who was sleeping around in bathhouses, which was significantly more common in terms of people who acquired AIDS back in the 1980s and 1990s.
00:32:27.000The left has to redefine fact away from fact in order to achieve desired ends.
00:32:33.000And that is true whether we're talking the evils of radical Islam or whether we're talking about the spread of AIDS.
00:32:40.000It is a serious issue and I wish the media took it more seriously because
00:32:46.000As I'm fond of saying, facts don't care about your feelings.
00:32:47.000And no matter how we treat Charlie Sheen in the aftermath of this, nothing will de-link the acquisition of STDs from promiscuous sex.