In the wake of the attack on the Houses of Parliament, the British press has focused heavily on the identity of the perpetrator. Is it a Muslim? Is it not a Muslim at all? And what does this have to do with race and ethnicity? And why is the term "Asian" used so much in the media to describe the perpetrator? Ben Shapiro explains why the use of the term Asian is a cover for a Muslim perpetrator, and why the media should be ashamed of itself for it. He also explains why using the term Asian is a bad idea, and how the media and government use it to cover up for the fact that the perpetrator may not be a Muslim. And, of course, there's a bottle of wine to celebrate it all. Ben and WIllink discuss that and much more on today's episode of The Ben Shapiro Show. Music: Fair Weather Fans by The Baseball Project, Recorded live at WFMU and produced by Riley Bray Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices. Rate, review and subscribe to our new podcast, The Five Starred Copycat Copycat by going to gimlet.fm/TheBenShapiroShow and leave us a rating and review on iTunes. Subscribe and review this episode on your favorite streaming platform so you can be notified when a new episode hits your favorite podcast platform! of the latest episode is available. Thank you for listening and sharing it! Subscribe, review, and spread the word out there about what you're listening to this podcast! and spread it around the world! Love, Ben Shapiro, you'll be helping us spread the truth about what's good, not just the truth, right here, and what's going out there? and we'll be spreading it everywhere else? - The truth about it's better than it's good enough, more like it's more than just good, right, more of it than that, right? -- Thank you, thank you, bye, bye bye bye, good night. - Yours Truly Truly Truly, Ben and truly, bye. -- Yours truly, -- The Reverend Ben Shapiro "The Reverend Jimmie, the Reverend - Vicky, Vicky and Kewl, Raldee, the Reverend Ben Jeeves, Sr., the Reverend Ed, Jr.
00:00:00.000Media reports from the British press in the aftermath of Wednesday's truck and knife attack on Parliament, resulting in the death of at least four people and catastrophic injuries to more than a dozen more, have focused in on the identity of the perpetrator in vague terms.
00:00:12.000We knew, according to The Telegraph, that the attacker was described by witnesses as, quote, an Asian guy in about his 40s carrying a knife about seven or eight inches long.
00:00:19.000The Daily Star of the UK called the suspect a black or Asian man who was spotted running with an eight-inch knife.
00:00:25.000The Daily Mirror called him, quote, reportedly Asian in appearance.
00:00:28.000The picture of the suspect shows that he is, in fact, some guy from the Middle East or Pakistan.
00:00:34.000In America, Asian has a different connotation than it does in the British press.
00:00:37.000It generally means people of Pakistani or Indian descent, not people from Southeast Asia, as it does in the United States.
00:00:42.000It's also often a cover for Islamic background.
00:00:45.000The press will generally avoid talking about the religion of a suspect in favor of focusing in on ethnicity, and then they will broaden out the ethnic label to include people who aren't Pakistani in order to create the impression that the Pakistani perpetrator might not be a Muslim.
00:00:58.000In May 2012, the BBC reported that groups representing Sikhs and Hindus complained to the media about the use of the term Asian to apply to nine Pakistani suspects erected for grooming girls for sex.
00:01:08.000The network of Sikh organizations, UK, the Hindu Forum of Britain, the Sikh Media Monitoring Group, UK, accused the media
00:01:14.000Of unwillingness to mention the, quote, disproportionate representation of Muslims in such cases, and the non-Muslim identities of the victims, calling the Asian label, quote, unfair to other communities of Asian responsibility, adding, quote, we believe that in this case, the government itself is sanctioning the use of the term Asian as a way of clouding responsibility.
00:01:33.000The same pattern held true in reporting of the Rotherham incident, where British authorities, fearful of supposed backlash, held back on investigations into a serious upsurge in rape and child sex slavery involving Muslim men.
00:01:47.000The police filed a report in 2010 openly mentioning, quote, a problem with networks of Asian offenders, both locally and nationally, and stated that the crimes were related to culture.
00:01:56.000From 1997 to 2013, the crimes were under police and underreported.
00:02:00.000This is how media and government turn individual criminal issues into actual tribal conflicts.
00:02:05.000By refusing to hold everyone to the same standard, refusing to acknowledge that not all cultures are equally compatible with Western standards of decency, and instead using ethnic descriptors rather than ideological ones, the media and authorities actually drives xenophobia rather than alleviating it, as well as sweeping up innocent people in the net.
00:02:23.000Sikhs and Hindus do not deserve to be placed in the same risk category as radical Muslims with regard to terrorism.
00:02:29.000Attempting to protect moderate Muslims by ignoring all ideological leanings whatsoever is stupid.
00:02:34.000And using the overbroad ethnic descriptor Asian, pretending that Indians and Pakistanis are part of the same ethnic group for purposes of avoiding ideological conclusion jumping is purposeful obfuscation of accuracy.
00:02:49.000But it's not fine to give the public misleading information on the grounds that they might jump to conclusions suggested by probabilistic thinking and then lump in innocent people in the process.
00:03:16.000They're all lying to you and it is making me sick to my stomach and so we are going to put an end to that today when we discuss the truth about what's happening on this Trump-Russia stuff and on the wiretapping stuff and on all the rest of it on Trumpcare.
00:03:26.000So many lies, so little time, so much to get to.
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00:05:19.000Well, we now know that the FBI may or may not have information that Donald Trump's team was coordinating with the Russians in order to release info on Hillary Clinton during the campaign.
00:05:29.000Here is the Silver Fox, Anderson Cooper.
00:05:31.000She has Pamela Brown and Evan Perez joining us now.
00:05:34.000They broke the story along with our justice reporter, Shimon Prokopez.
00:05:39.000Well, Anderson, the FBI has information that indicates associates of President Donald Trump communicated with suspected Russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to Hillary Clinton's campaign, U.S.
00:05:54.000FBI Director James Comey made his bombshell announcement, as you'll recall, Monday before Congress that the FBI is investigating the Trump campaign's ties to Russia.
00:06:02.000So the FBI is now reviewing this information, which includes human intelligence, travel, business and phone records,
00:06:09.000But you admit all you have right now is a circumstantial case?
00:06:33.000I can tell you that the case is more than that.
00:06:36.000And I can't go into the particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now.
00:06:40.000So, again, I think... So you have seen direct evidence of collusion?
00:06:46.000I don't want to go into specifics, but I will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial and is very much worthy of investigation.
00:06:55.000Okay, this is rumor mongering, rumor mongering.
00:06:57.000Here's what the CNN report actually said.
00:06:59.000The FBI has information that indicates associates of President Donald Trump communicated with suspected Russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to Hillary Clinton's campaign.
00:07:09.000Okay, so in the first sentence you have three qualifying words.
00:07:39.000So they got one person saying it's not circumstantial, a bunch of people saying it is circumstantial, and the entire media running with it, Trump is on the ropes!
00:08:07.000If you don't want honesty, there are plenty of other places that will tell you that Trump is the most vindicated person who has ever lived and all is well and all this crap.
00:08:13.000Okay, here is what Trump actually said.
00:08:15.000Trump said that like McCarthy, like McCarthy, there was purposeful wiretapping of Trump Tower.
00:08:20.000And I'm not even going to be specific.
00:08:22.000I'm not even going to say that it was wiretapping of Trump Tower specifically.
00:08:24.000We'll make the claim a little broader.
00:08:26.000We'll say that Trump said that Obama directed surveillance at him.
00:08:45.000All the evidence suggests, so far, that if there were Trump associates who were caught up in the quote-unquote surveillance, they were caught up incidentally.
00:08:53.000Meaning, we don't have any FISA warrants that we know about, other than I think one report in like Heat Street or something.
00:08:58.000There are no FISA warrants that we know about that were actually directed at U.S.
00:09:03.000There's no FISA warrant that went out on Mike Flynn, for example.
00:09:07.000There's no FISA warrant as far as we know.
00:09:09.000There was no direct surveillance of these people.
00:09:11.000Now, does that mean that there was no surveillance of these people?
00:09:14.000No, that there was surveillance of these people in the same way that, for example, you wouldn't say that the cops were targeting you if they were staking out a drug den and you were a client.
00:09:24.000They were targeting the drug den, and you were a client.
00:09:27.000Okay, this is the same thing that's happening here.
00:09:29.000They were targeting the Russians, and the Russians were talking with Trump people, and some of the Trump people were on the line with the Russians.
00:09:34.000That is not the same thing as what Trump was claiming, which was, Obama basically put a team on me and my friends, and then he was attempting to gather information on us so that he could release it and take us down.
00:09:46.000People have gotten into this business and it's driving me absolutely up a wall, up a freaking wall, okay?
00:09:51.000The left did it during the Michael Brown-Darren Wilson scenario, where they claimed, hands up, don't shoot.
00:09:56.000And people like me said, that never happened.
00:09:58.000And the left said, ah, you're right, it never happened, but the facts may not be true, but the narrative is true.
00:10:05.000And we'd say, what the hell does that mean?
00:10:06.000Why don't you show me some facts, generating a narrative, and then we'll determine if it's true.
00:10:10.000You can't just say the narrative is true without any facts to back it up.
00:10:13.000The right is now doing a lot of the same stuff on Trump's surveillance claims.
00:10:16.000So, it is true, factually speaking, that there were people who are in the Trump team who were caught up in the surveillance net that was directed at people who are not the Trump team.
00:10:30.000What is not true is when you take Trump's original claim that he was purposefully wiretapped by Obama, and then you broaden it out to not only include Trump, but also his team, and then you broaden it out to also include incidental collection of information, and then you claim Trump is vindicated.
00:11:27.000persons associated with the incoming administration, details with little or no apparent foreign intelligence value, were widely disseminated in intelligence community reporting.
00:11:41.000Third, I have confirmed that additional names of Trump transition team members were unmasked.
00:11:48.000And fourth, and finally, I want to be clear, none of this surveillance was related to Russia, or the investigation of Russian activities, or of the Trump team.
00:12:10.000Because again, there is no hard information that one, Obama directed wiretapping at Trump, or two, that Trump is in the pocket of the Russians.
00:12:16.000But what we do know with 100% certitude is that Obama intelligence officials were leaking information to the press.
00:12:22.000That is a crime, okay, and those people need to be tracked down and prosecuted because
00:12:27.000Regardless of how they got the information on Mike Flynn being on the phone with Sergey Kislyak or whatever his name is, they were not supposed to release that.
00:14:48.000The case that Trump has made is not that, because Trump reads the headline, assumes what he wants to assume, and then determines that it's true based on his gut that day.
00:14:56.000He basically said that today in an interview with Time, which I'm going to get to in a second.
00:15:03.000He has now asked Devin Nunez, the House Intel Chair, he has asked about whether the President's conversation appeared in intelligence reports.
00:15:10.000Mr. Chairman, was the President's conversations or anything about the President appearing in intelligence reports?
00:15:17.000I have seen intelligence reports that clearly show that the president-elect and his team were, I guess, at least monitored and disseminated out in intelligence.
00:15:32.000And what appears to be raw, or I shouldn't say raw, but intelligence reporting channels.
00:15:38.000Nunes is not being exact in his language here.
00:15:46.000Except that Nunes said a half dozen times in this press conference that it was the Russians or whoever was on the other... He doesn't even say it was the Russians.
00:15:53.000He says it was whoever on the other end of the line was being surveilled.
00:16:24.000And that's why it's so stupid that everybody on the left keeps denying that the leaks are bad and everybody on the right keeps saying Trump was right.
00:16:34.000And then, finally, Núñez is asked, this morning he was asked, actually, if he got all of this information from the White House, because he apparently went to the White House and gave them the information before he gave the Intelligence Committee all this new information, supposedly, that he's breaking, this Clip 16, and he won't answer the question.
00:16:51.000Over the course of this investigation, we've had many sources who have come to this committee.
00:16:56.000And as you can imagine, many don't want you to know, they don't want anyone to know who they are.
00:17:03.000And I think you guys in the press understand this.
00:17:23.000I called down there and invited myself because I thought he needed to understand what I saw and that he needed to try to get that information because he has every right to see it.
00:17:35.000Adam Schiff responds to this and he says, look, this is, you don't get to not tell the rest of the intel committee and then just go coordinate with the president on something that is currently at issue in investigation.
00:17:46.000And I hate to say this, but Adam Schiff is not entirely incorrect here.
00:18:05.000The chairman will need to decide whether he is the chairman of an independent investigation into conduct, which includes allegations of potential coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russians, or he is going to act as a surrogate of the White House, because he cannot do both.
00:18:22.000They're saying, oh, how dare Schiff go after Nunez for all of this?
00:18:45.000And the head of the investigation into that thing then went to the White House without telling the other Republican members of the committee, briefed the President on all that stuff, and then came back with a bunch of talking points that helped the President.
00:19:28.000Okay, well, of course he feels vindicated, because anything that provides him any fig leaf under which to hide makes him feel vindicated.
00:19:34.000Now, I'm going to explain in a second why all this matters, and why it's not just a bunch of jabber, and why I think there is something that is deep at stake that I don't like, okay?
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00:22:02.000I don't want to pretend that this is solely Trump, okay?
00:22:04.000Democrats do the same thing, politicians do it all the time, but he's supposed to be somebody who represents me and represents the American people, and he's instead pursuing
00:22:12.000Whatever idiocy comes into his mind at a given time.
00:22:15.000I'm really angry about this because it's undermining what could be a great agenda.
00:22:18.000It's undermining what could be great policies.
00:22:20.000It's undermining true things that need to be said because he can't keep his mouth shut.
00:23:01.000Just because you predict things, and I shouldn't say all things, you predict some things correctly, that does not mean that you are a trustworthy person.
00:23:09.000And the reason that I say this is because in this interview, Trump says he's a very instinctual person, but my instinct turns out to be right.
00:23:15.000So he just says things without any sort of verification.
00:23:18.000Number one, he says, he was asked about the Obama wiretap Trump Tower comments.
00:23:28.000That was a claim of fact about what has already happened.
00:23:31.000Okay, if I say that the War of 1812 was not engaged in 1812, that's not a prediction, that's a misstatement of fact.
00:23:39.000If I say the Civil War didn't happen between the North and the South in America, my answer to that cannot be afterward, well, you know, eventually I'll be proved right.
00:23:54.000He still says in this interview that he'll be proved right about his unsubstantiated claim of 3 million undocumented votes in the 2016 election.
00:24:02.000No, you don't have any evidence of that, and you claimed that it happened, so you have to provide evidence of that.
00:24:29.000You're the one who keeps saying that the news is fake news and you can't trust what you read in the newspaper, unless apparently it's the National Enquirer.
00:24:35.000In the same interview, he calls the Wall Street Journal fake news.
00:24:37.000So just to get this straight, the National Enquirer is real news, but the Wall Street Journal is fake news.
00:24:42.000And when he's asked about his accusations that British intelligence was complicit in wiretapping him, he goes, why do you say I have to apologize?
00:25:29.000With that rant done, I now want to move on to Trumpcare and where that is, because that is still moving along and there's a lot of controversy over where that's going, and a big lie that is currently happening from the left on Trumpcare.
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