The Ben Shapiro Show - April 10, 2017


Ep. 283 - There's A New Sheriff In Syria

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Syria map changes & US strategy
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Ben Shapiro
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Assad Donald Trump Barack Obama Vladimir Putin Mitch McConnell George W. Bush Legacy Box Ted Cruz Clavin Hillary Clinton Bashar Assad Saddam Hussein Michael Malice Neil Gorsuch David French John Kerry Bob Corker Bin Laden Ron Paul Scalia
Ep. 282 - Trump's Big Syria Conundrum Ep. 284 - So, Is There A Plan?

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In 2013, I was one of the people who opposed Obama's pre-stated plan for a "pinprick strike" in Syria. Today, I'm not so sure that's as bad as it could have been, and I think we can all agree that a strike on Syria would have been a bad idea. But what s different between 2013 and now is that Trump is a man of mystery on foreign policy, and a coherent plan of action can help reshape the map in Syria in ways that Obama could not have imagined. And that's why I think a strike in Syria will be much better than a pinned-down attack on a Syrian airfield, even if it doesn't accomplish what Obama had hoped it would accomplish. I don't think you'll be surprised to learn that Obama's plan was, in fact, much worse than the one Trump is pursuing now. I mean, look at the map of Syria, and you'll see that there's a lot more to the conflict than there was in 2013, and that's a good thing, given what's happened in the past four years, and what's going to happen in the future, and in the years to come in Syria under President Trump. I think you're going to agree with me that the map has changed since then, and it's better than it was four years ago, which is why a pinprick attack in Syria is not only better than Obama's idea of a strike, but it's a much better idea than what we did in 2013. . . . I hope you enjoy this episode, and tweet me what you think of it! ! Timestamps: 1:00 - What's better? 2:30 - What have you thought of Obama's Syria strategy in 2013? 3:20 - What changed? 4:10 - What has changed in Syria since then? 5:15 - What are your thoughts on Obama's strategy? 6:40 - Is there a better plan in Syria now? 7: What would you like to see the United States do in Syria? 8: What's the best option? 9:30 11:00 12:00 -- What are you looking for? 13:30 -- What is the best strategy in Syria's strategic interests in the Middle East? 14:40 -- What s your point of view? 15:20 -- What do you want to see?

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00:00:00.000 Last night, as news emerged of President Trump's missile strike against a Syrian airfield, Twitter quickly began examining Trump's old tweets from 2013, many of which opposed the possibility of action in Syria by Barack Obama.
00:00:10.000 He tweeted, He also tweeted,
00:00:22.000 And then there was the re-examination of Senator Ted Cruz's position on American involvement in the Syrian conflict.
00:00:27.000 In 2013, Cruz said that Assad's chemical weapons use was, quote, not a direct threat to U.S.
00:00:31.000 national security, and added that such behavior was, quote, well outside the traditional scope of U.S.
00:00:36.000 military action.
00:00:37.000 Now, Cruz is silent on Trump's airstrikes, adding, quote, I look forward to our commander-in-chief making the case to Congress and the American people.
00:00:44.000 In 2013, I was one of the people who opposed Obama's pre-stated pinprick strike.
00:00:48.000 I tweeted at Hugh Hewitt,
00:00:49.000 Lobbing missiles into Syria without decapitating the regime strengthens both Assad and the mullahs. 0.97
00:00:54.000 I also wrote in a column around that time that Obama's strategy was destined to fail because he had no credibility to uphold.
00:01:00.000 He was negotiating a deal with the Syrian sponsor state Iran.
00:01:03.000 He was undermining American allies all over the region.
00:01:05.000 He was making the only standard for intervention use of chemical weapons while ignoring all of Assad's other war atrocities.
00:01:11.000 So,
00:01:11.000 What's changed between 2013 and now?
00:01:14.000 Three things.
00:01:14.000 First, Trump can re-establish American credibility.
00:01:17.000 Obama had already blown American credibility out of the water for four years by the time Assad gassed his own people. 0.95
00:01:23.000 It was obvious to everybody, Democrats and Republicans, that not only did Obama lack a plan in Syria, he was looking to launch a few missiles to silence criticisms of his pathetic foreign policy. 0.93
00:01:32.000 As I tweeted then, hitting a few donkeys in the rear in Syria wouldn't do anything but make Assad look stronger and the United States weaker. 0.95
00:01:38.000 The same is not true of Trump. 0.58
00:01:40.000 He's a brand new president, a man of mystery on foreign policy.
00:01:43.000 A coherent plan of action following a strong immediate response to a chemical attack can help reshape the map in different ways than Obama could in 2013.
00:01:50.000 Second,
00:01:52.000 The Russian-Iranian axis is now operative in Syria.
00:01:55.000 After Obama hands it over control of Syria to Russia in 2013, I wrote this, quote,
00:02:08.000 Do nothing in order to prevent Al Qaeda from taking over the country. 0.56
00:02:11.000 Or, as John Kerry advocated, push for an unbelievably small action in order to reinforce America's credibility.
00:02:17.000 The third option was probably the worst.
00:02:18.000 But in a truly awe-inspiring display of his foreign policy genius, Obama has found a fourth option.
00:02:23.000 Appeasement, complete with international weapons inspections it rejected just a week ago.
00:02:28.000 In 2013, our geopolitical interests in Syria were significantly less important than they are now, thanks to Russia's aggressively reshaping of the Middle East. 0.79
00:02:35.000 Obama handed over power to Russia in Syria, thereby helping complete an Iranian-Russian axis that now spans from Iran to Lebanon, and then backed Iran through his idiotic and evil nuclear deal that made Iran a regional power again. 0.84
00:02:46.000 All of that is creating a safe haven and base of strength for Iranian-backed terrorists, strengthening Putin's hand as an expansionist dictator, and even creating an incentive for countries who oppose Iran and Russia to covertly support ISIS. 0.67
00:02:57.000 Blunting Russia's ambitions in Syria without drawing us into a war with them is a worthwhile goal. 0.79
00:03:02.000 Third, the map does not look like it did in 2013.
00:03:05.000 Here's a graphic of control of Syria in 2013.
00:03:08.000 You can see those blue dots up in the top, those are the Kurds, then you see the red dots, that's the opposition, and the black dots are the government.
00:03:15.000 Now, here's a map from March 2017.
00:03:17.000 Okay, you can see the black there is ISIS, the red is the Syrian government, and the yellow is the Kurds.
00:03:24.000 Note the geographic divides.
00:03:25.000 Note also the new clarity about the identities of some of Assad's rivals.
00:03:28.000 In that first map, you didn't know who his rivals were.
00:03:30.000 Here, you know a lot of them are ISIS.
00:03:31.000 This means that America's strategic goals have changed.
00:03:34.000 Now it's no longer about deposing Assad, per se, which was always a questionable goal given his terrorist rivals.
00:03:40.000 America has no interest in intervening in the middle of the Syrian civil war.
00:03:43.000 We do have interests regarding Assad's dominance and fighting ISIS. 0.52
00:03:47.000 Russia and Assad are not interested in fighting ISIS.
00:03:50.000 That was always a fantasy of pro-Russian isolationists.
00:03:52.000 Our best policy at this point is to contain the region without serious intervention, kill as many ISIS members as possible along with friendly countries, and to deter major human rights violations, if possible, while emboldening the Kurds in that yellow northern region. 0.93
00:04:06.000 That's why Trump's first strike matters.
00:04:08.000 But it won't matter unless he has some sort of strategy to back it up.
00:04:11.000 If he doesn't, it will be precisely the same as Obama's proposed pinprick strike, and will have been a counterproductive rather than a first blow toward restoring American interests on the world stage.
00:04:20.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:04:21.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:04:27.000 All righty.
00:04:27.000 So, obviously, a ton of news to get to.
00:04:30.000 Neil Gorsuch has now been confirmed.
00:04:31.000 He is now going to be on the Supreme Court.
00:04:33.000 Good for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.
00:04:36.000 I didn't think he was actually going to do it.
00:04:37.000 He did invoke the nuclear option, did what he was supposed to do.
00:04:40.000 Good for him.
00:04:40.000 We'll also get to a full analysis of what is happening in Syria.
00:04:44.000 Is it good?
00:04:44.000 Is it bad?
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00:06:01.000 Okay, so, big news last night.
00:06:12.000 The Gorsuch thing, we can wait till later to discuss, but it's not huge news because we knew all week that they were going to confirm Justice Gorsuch.
00:06:19.000 Big win for President Trump.
00:06:20.000 He fulfills a campaign promise.
00:06:22.000 Big win for Mitch McConnell, who fulfills a quasi-campaign promise.
00:06:25.000 It is a big thing.
00:06:27.000 I don't think it's as huge a thing as some people make it out to be, because I don't think the Supreme Court is as huge a thing as some people make it out to be.
00:06:32.000 I've said that in the past, I will continue to say that, but it is big that Scalia's seat is maintained for originalism, as opposed to being converted over to a leftism activist seat, as it would have under Hillary Clinton.
00:06:42.000 So, I got that one totally wrong during the election cycle.
00:06:45.000 I said I thought that Trump would appoint somebody who is not conservative, or at the very least, Mitch McConnell, would not ram Trump's pick through over the filibuster, and obviously I was wrong.
00:06:55.000 Good for Trump, good for Mitch McConnell, that's great stuff.
00:06:57.000 But the big news, obviously, is that we are now involved in a war in Syria.
00:07:01.000 How much are we involved?
00:07:03.000 Not particularly much.
00:07:04.000 Last night, about, it would have been about 6 o'clock Pacific time, we get the news that the United States has launched 50 plus, I think it was 59, Tomahawk missiles from the Mediterranean Sea to a Syrian base, an air base that was apparently the source of the gas attacks that happened earlier this week on Syrian civilians that Trump saw
00:07:23.000 I don't know.
00:07:40.000 We're good to go.
00:07:56.000 But it was a sign that Trump is not going to sit there and do nothing.
00:07:58.000 And it was a marked contrast to President Obama, who after a Syrian gas attack in 2013, he basically sat around and did nothing, dithered, tried to blame Congress, and then finally handed over control of the whole situation to the Russians.
00:08:10.000 But it has raised a number of really important and interesting questions.
00:08:14.000 The first question, I think, is was the strike worthwhile?
00:08:17.000 Was it something that was worthwhile?
00:08:19.000 And again, I go back to what I just said a few minutes ago.
00:08:22.000 How worthwhile the strike was is going to depend on what comes next.
00:08:25.000 So, in 1998, Al-Qaeda targeted the U.S.
00:08:29.000 embassies in Tanzania and Kenya and killed hundreds of people. 0.99
00:08:33.000 And Bill Clinton's response was to shoot off a missile at a chemical weapons factory, supposedly in Sudan, and hit a camel in the ass. 0.99
00:08:39.000 And that was basically the end of it. 0.99
00:08:40.000 That obviously not only had no impact, it actually was counterproductive.
00:08:43.000 It convinced bin Laden that the United States was a paper tiger, we weren't going to actually do anything, and led to 9-11.
00:08:48.000 If you just do these sort of symbolic measures that aren't followed up on with any sort of real cohesive policy, then nothing actually matters here.
00:08:57.000 It doesn't matter.
00:08:59.000 David French, I think, gets this exactly right in National Review.
00:09:01.000 He says, if this is the only strike, unless it was extraordinarily and unusually effective, it has little chance of materially impacting the Assad regime or the course of the civil war itself.
00:09:09.000 Even if it persuades Assad to refrain from dropping gas bombs, he'll doubtless continue his campaign of mass murder with barrel bombs, cluster bombs, area bombing, and mass executions.
00:09:18.000 And as I just
00:09:33.000 I think?
00:09:53.000 People like Cernovich, well, you seem very concerned about Pizzagate, why don't you go join the DC police force?
00:09:57.000 You know, the idea that you are concerned about something happening in the world, and this is the rationale, you must join the military if you care about persecuting a war, or prosecuting a war, or you must join the police force or the border force if you want people to do their jobs, that's silly.
00:10:11.000 But,
00:10:11.000 The reason that so many people are upset is because there are a lot of people who bought into the original concept of Trump as sort of a Ron Paul isolationist, and what Trump actually is, is an isolationist who, if he gets pissed off, fires missiles at things.
00:10:23.000 That's all the evidence we have so far.
00:10:25.000 We don't know that he's now an interventionist, we don't know he's somebody who plans, and this is the great debate.
00:10:30.000 What Trump did in Syria last night, was that something where Trump is actually now going to shift his entire policy on Syria and pursue something that's more coherent and cohesive?
00:10:39.000 Or is it going to be a situation where Donald Trump basically, earlier this week, said, everything is fine in Syria, don't care what Assad does, Assad gasses a bunch of people, he sees it on TV, he says, oh those poor babies, and then he goes and he shoots off a bunch of missiles, and then that's it.
00:10:53.000 If that's it, that's not going to be good, but we don't know the answer yet.
00:10:56.000 You know, that seems to me the most plausible solution here is that he doesn't have a coherent strategy.
00:11:00.000 The only reason I say that is because they're members of the Defense Department who are already saying this was a one-off, that this isn't going to be something that is repeated, and they've yet to roll out what their strategy actually is.
00:11:11.000 But there's a lot of confusion.
00:11:12.000 So let's start with what happened before all of this.
00:11:14.000 So in 2013,
00:11:16.000 Donald Trump was very militant about not getting involved in Syria.
00:11:19.000 He had a series of tweets in which he specifically talked about this.
00:11:22.000 He tweeted, if we can get those up, he said the president must get congressional approval before attacking Syria.
00:11:28.000 Big mistake if he does not.
00:11:29.000 We'll talk about the constitutionality of this in a second.
00:11:32.000 And then he also tweeted that if the U.S.
00:11:34.000 attacks Syria, it'll be a terrible idea. 1.00
00:11:36.000 He says if the U.S.
00:11:37.000 attacks Syria, this was September 2nd, 2013,
00:11:39.000 We're good to go.
00:12:07.000 If you look at a lot of his supporters, they have a reason to be upset with him today, because obviously that was not his position.
00:12:12.000 He saw something on TV, he heard intelligence reports, and then he decided to act.
00:12:17.000 And we'll have to see how, you know, we'll have to see how much he ends up acting.
00:12:21.000 Bob Corker, Senator from Tennessee, he says that he was excited that this happened because he was worried Trump might just make a cheap deal over Russia.
00:12:28.000 ...patron Putin and Russia.
00:12:30.000 I heard U.N.
00:12:31.000 Ambassador Nikki Haley criticize Russia.
00:12:34.000 I have not heard President Trump hold
00:12:37.000 Is Putin or Russia responsible in any way?
00:12:40.000 He's been far more critical of Barack Obama on this issue than Vladimir Putin.
00:12:44.000 Why?
00:12:45.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:12:46.000 I have seen, by the way, an evolution even in Russia.
00:12:49.000 I'd like to see more.
00:12:51.000 Look, I'm just being honest with you.
00:12:53.000 I was very concerned in the beginning that there may be an attempt to do some cheap deal with Russia relative to Ukraine and Crimea.
00:13:02.000 In Syria, and I don't think there's any chance of that now. 0.71
00:13:05.000 I think the president is, the longer he's in office, the more he has people coming in to see him from other countries.
00:13:11.000 I think that he's developing a body of knowledge and experience that will keep anything like that from occurring, and he'll have an opportunity to see firsthand right now.
00:13:20.000 So we'll find out.
00:13:21.000 We'll find out.
00:13:22.000 You know, Putin is getting very militant over Syria.
00:13:24.000 Is this a one-off where Trump backs down in the future?
00:13:27.000 That's possible too.
00:13:28.000 We just don't know what's going to happen.
00:13:30.000 But you can see the flip happen in real time.
00:13:31.000 So earlier this week, Tillerson said that Assad could stay in power.
00:13:35.000 Then he added, now he's saying after that gas attack, that Russia was complicit or incompetent in preventing the Syria gas attack.
00:13:41.000 There's information that Russian agents were on the ground as they were organizing the Syrian gas attack.
00:13:46.000 He also is now saying that there are steps underway to remove Assad altogether, which is precisely 180 degrees polar opposite of what he said earlier this week.
00:13:54.000 Assad's role in the future is uncertain, clearly, and with the acts that he has taken, it would seem that there would be no role for him to govern the Syrian people.
00:14:05.000 And so what steps is the United States prepared to take in order to remove him from power?
00:14:11.000 The process by which Saad would leave is something that I think requires an international community effort, both to first defeat ISIS within Syria,
00:14:22.000 So, we can stop it there.
00:14:23.000 I mean, but that obviously is a flip in position.
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00:15:52.000 There are really a few different positions that are emerging on Trump.
00:15:54.000 All we know about Trump is that Trump was deeply affected in an emotional way by what happened in Syria.
00:15:59.000 So here is what Trump said after speaking last night after the missile attack.
00:16:04.000 My fellow Americans, on Tuesday, Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad launched a horrible chemical weapons attack
00:16:17.000 On innocent civilians.
00:16:20.000 Using a deadly nerve agent, Assad choked out the lives of helpless men, women, and children.
00:16:30.000 It was a slow and brutal death for so many.
00:16:36.000 Even beautiful babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack.
00:16:47.000 No child of God should ever suffer such horror.
00:16:52.000 Tonight I ordered a targeted military strike on the airfield in Syria from where the chemical attack was launched.
00:17:05.000 It is in this vital national security interest of the United States to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons.
00:17:20.000 There can be no dispute that Syria used banned chemical weapons, violated its obligations 0.86
00:17:29.000 Under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and ignored the urging of the UN Security Council.
00:17:38.000 Stop it right there.
00:17:39.000 There is some irony to this, if you're a Trump follower, and Trump spent his entire campaign ripping on George W. Bush, saying that George W. Bush was a warmonger.
00:17:47.000 If you recall, what was George W. Bush's excuse for going into Iraq?
00:17:50.000 It was use of chemical weapons by Saddam Hussein on his own people, the possibility of future use of weapons of mass destruction on Americans and others across the world, upholding UN sanctions against all of this.
00:18:02.000 And that's exactly the same template that Trump is using here.
00:18:04.000 So people have a right to be upset with Trump if they were against the Iraq war.
00:18:08.000 And now they say, well, what happened to the Trump that we knew and loved here?
00:18:11.000 The fact is that isolationism runs up against reality, not only because you see nasty pictures on TV, but because it turns out that there are nasty forces in the world from Iran to Russia who are interested in maximizing their own power at the expense of U.S.
00:18:23.000 power.
00:18:23.000 And that's really where America's interest lies here, not in the human rights violations, which are terrible but exist all over the world.
00:18:28.000 It really lies in the idea that a strengthened Russia that has an impact in broadening the sphere of influence for Iran
00:18:34.000 And for places like Lebanon and Syria and Assad.
00:18:40.000 When you do all of this, you're heightening the chance of war against America's allies, war against citizens of the West, and terrorism against citizens of the West.
00:18:48.000 And Assad has been complicit in that.
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